The Ringer NFL Show - Nick Chubb Injury Reactions, and Waiver Wire Pickups for Week 3

Episode Date: September 19, 2023

Reacting to Nick Chubb’s season-ending knee injury and other takeaways from ‘Monday Night Football’ (2:14). Next, SHOWDOWN TIME! Must-add players at each position ahead of Week 3 (8:23). “You guys want to do some emails?” (43:40) Check out The Ringer’s Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings, waiver wire pickups, and much more! RB: Zack Moss (Colts), Justice Hill (Ravens), and Tyjae Spears (Titans) (9:23) WR: Tutu Atwell (Rams), Tank Dell (Texans), and Josh Reynolds (Lions) (18:33) TE: Zach Ertz (Cardinals), Luke Musgrave (Packers), and Hunter Henry (Patriots) (34:35) QB: Jordan Love (Packers) and Matthew Stafford (Rams) (41:30) D/ST: Kansas City Chiefs and Los Angeles Rams (42:24) Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens and Jack Sanders Producer: Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Your fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hyfitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralick. And it is late. It's after Monday in football. The Steelers just beat the rounds in a wildly depressing game. Long, sad. I mean, we're here because Nick Chub got hurt. But frankly, at this point, like, that game went four hours.

It feels long ago at this point. Like, that was brutal to watch through and through. Craig, how are you feeling? I mean, look, I'm thrilled they won. They eeked it out. The defense was incredible. I mean, an all-time Pittsburgh defensive performance, two touchdowns, what was it, five or six sacks. I mean, they had more points than the offense.

It was incredible. But this was a four-hour war. There was like eight guys who got hurt in this game. Minka Fitzpatrick got hurt. Nick Chubb obviously got hurt. Like so many guys went down. It was brutal. You're saying about AFC North football where you're like, yeah, football.

I don't know. Maybe you shouldn't be a sport. Maybe. Maybe we should not be doing this anymore. I'm kind of workshoping something. what if football games are just two quarters? I don't know if humans are meant to do it for four hours. Make it two, maybe.

Cut in half. I'm okay with that. My brothers could take the golf doesn't need to be 18 holes because 13's plenty. And football, you know, 40 minutes? I mean, we got like hour three. And I looked up and there was like 11 minutes left in the fourth quarter. This game is, this still has like a quarter of the game left. And dudes are just teeing off on Kenny Pickett.

It was insane. We got to get to Nick Chub. This is really depressing. I feel like Nick Chubb. Everyone likes Nick Chubb. Even Steelers fans, Steelers fans hate the Browns. I mean, obviously it was a horrific injury.

And Steelers fans, as soon as this saw, the replay, were chanting Nick Chubb's name when he got off of the cart. Just, yeah. I mean, again, Nick Chubb is one of the best running backs of the last decade, one of the best running backs I've seen in my lifetime.

And it sucks. I mean, they didn't even show the replay. They showed it at the big board. You could see on the, you can hear on television, everyone gas. I've never heard anything like that before. That was, yeah, this was the most surreal, I think, like, live game injury situation. Other than, of course, like the DeMar Hamelin thing, which was very, very different.

It's his own category. They, they, I don't remember, honestly, like having a, like a game where they just refused to show the replay. Maybe I know, I don't think I've ever seen that. Joe Burrow, maybe, I think they did the same thing. But, like, it's very, very rare that usually they're showing the replay of the injury like 17 times. And everyone's like, please, for the love of God, stop fucking showing this. With Chub, yeah, and then Hyphus, like you said, you could hear the crowd all go, oh, like it was so, it was just, it made me sick immediately because I was like, I knew this is

number one, that's just terrible for Nick Chubb. Number two, this is the second time he's had a massive, massive knee injury. So, man, you just feel for the guy totally gut wrenching. And yeah, it's just, man, very, very tough game. Did you? So I have friends who dropped the video. in the group chat and I clicked on it. I was like, oh.

Of course, you find the video on Twitter and it's, I mean, it's one of the worst five injuries I think I've ever seen. I didn't watch it, to be totally honest. You don't need to. Oh, it's, it's gruesome. It's horrific. It's like, you have to measure it with like a protractor. It's just, I don't even.

It's so bad. It's so bad. I feel so bad for him. And it was really sad because, you know, people were like, his career is over. And I was like, well, we don't know that. I'm like, but like the Nick Chub that we think of being Nick Chub is done. And that's so. sad to think about because it's just

these, and honestly, that's why all these running backs want more money, and that's what sucks is it's also why teams aren't going to pay them. It's the same thing. Like, the Austin Declos hurt right now, Sequin's hurt right now, and Dick Chubb just gone, like just vanished. It's just so sad. So, we're just, again, fantasy football

where the Tim Robinson sketch of just like, player gets hurt and we're like, got to figure out to make money on this. Waivers. And it's, yeah, we talked about, like, how do we even approach this? Obviously, we have to say because this is the waivers episode. Like now this obviously makes Jerome Ford the guy that you have to go get.

Yeah, luckily it's pretty obvious. Jerome Ford becomes the number one ad on your waivers, I would say, right? He's the number one player probably coming out of this week's waivers. Yeah, and just so everyone knows, the rest of the episode we recorded earlier today. So we recorded everything you're going to hear after this segment before Monday football. So obviously, Nick Job hadn't gotten hurt. We hadn't yet got news that Sequin Barkley would confirm. be out for a few weeks probably.

So there's Map Rita for the Giants. And then also the other one-ed-a-flipple game, which was Panthers Saints got these games, sucked. The Panthers Saints game was like unwatched. I didn't watch a second of that live. I only saw highlights of that game. It was kind of weird. And I think there was two highlights.

So Jamal Williams got hurt. And then the Saints are already, you know, Camara is suspended. And then Kendri Miller, the Ricky had a TCU, Shattuckai is hurt. So they had Jamal Williams. And then Tony Jones. who's been on and off that team for a few years, ended up getting a couple touchdowns. And then Tassum Hill had nine carries for like 75 yards.

Love that. He went full Tatea. He went full Taysam, which is full Tasem is a completion, a carry and a catch. And that's what Tasem Hill did. So I guess just the context of later in the episode is all these guys are live now. If you are in a deeper league and you like really need a tight end, sure, whatever. Add Tase Mill if you really like. I think Kendra Miller.

I think Kendra Miller is the ad. Because there's multiple guys that could potentially be in play here. Like you said, Tony Jones is the guy who got the carries in this game. If it was me, because Kendry Miller was limited, he had limited participant in practice. There was some indication that he was going to try and give it a go this week. It feels likely that he'll be ready to go or more likely than not that he'll be ready to go next week. So Kendrae Miller would be the guy I go for here. But you're right.

Like there's multiple guys that could be affected here. Jason Mills probably a good pickup for tight end, honestly, at this point. So obviously, we'll wait and see what happens with Jamal Williams. but he left the game. He did not come back. So it looks like it's significant enough to miss time. And I want to shout out that. Matt Brita for the Giants is a fine pickup.

But I want to emphasize, Jerome Ford is the guy. And a lot of people were asking if you have like a free agent auction budget, how much of your dollars. Dick, I don't know how you feel. But the answer is like get him, just get Jerome, secure Jerome Ford in any cost.

And it's just whatever cost you think you need to pay to acquire him. but I would say a significant amount like over 50% is totally reasonable, maybe even more. I would do literally the whole thing. Yeah. So, you know, there's always a chance to Saints bring in a guy like Leonard Fornett or whoever, sorry, not the Saints, the Browns, like Leonard Fernet or whoever is still out there because there's multiple veteran running backs that are still out there. Jonathan Taylor?

Yeah, and then they could maybe potentially trade for Jonathan Taylor. There's multiple things here that could kind of derail the Jerome Ford thing. I think Jerome Ford looks good. Yeah, and he had a great play. He reversed the, he reversed the, he was. reverse field and had like a 70 something yard run and he like got tackled down at the one yard line. He had 16

carries for 106 yards. Yeah. So he's probably the guy and Kai, Kai mentions that Chubb is officially out for the season, which I think everybody assumed but now it's official. Yeah. So it just sucks that Nick Chubbisor. It's absolutely brutal. We'll talk

about other running backs you can add if you need to replace him later in the episode. Pickens though. Pickens Chicken's looked awesome. Yeah. All right. On that note, let's get to the rest of the show.

We are going through our must-add players entering week three, and here's that works. We're going to each give our top pick at each position of players on waivers, like 40-ish percent in ESPN or Yahoo. But like real waivers, we each only get one of them.

So we're going to break the ties with trivia. I promise you it's not that complicated. You'll figure it out as we go. If you're listening, you can email us at ringer fantasy football at e-mail. Emails, trivia questions. They have to end at a number. Emails fantasy chords.

emails whatever is on your mind, whatever musical stuff you talk about at the end, do whatever you want. Last week, we recommended Kyron Williams from the Rams, Zach Moss from the Colts, Josh Kelly from the charges, Justice Hill from the Ravens.

Josh Kelly did nothing. Justice Hill was fine. Zach Moss and Kyron Williams were like two top five running backs. So we're like a human random number generators. So you can take her advice. Sometimes it works. Yeah.

Yeah. So with all that said, and with a massive caveat that there's two Monday night football games tonight and we're recording this Monday, and injury stuff always comes out. So check for injury information between now and then and for updates and all these players.

DK, as of right now, at Monday at 421 Eastern. Yes. On Monday, who is your number one running back that you would want to add entering week three? I'm going with Zach Moss from the Colts once again. He is rostered on 29% of ESPN league. So if you're on ESPN, you have to go get him now.

Yeah, I have Zach Moss as my guy too. What about you, Craig? Same. He's like McCaffrey now. He played all but one snap in a week two. I mean, this guy is as big of a bell cow as you could get. Craig, literally. No other running back on the team even got a snap.

So they just did one snap without a running back. The only people who like played all but one or two snaps this week are basically Christian McCaffrey, Sequin and Zach Moss. Like how desperate they must have been for anyone else to play running back. Okay. Let's do a trivia tie break, a little trivia showdown time for Zach Moss. And then we'll get to what else you should do if he's not there. But Craig, please.

All right. What a week. This is Zach Moss. Showdown time. That got a little spooky there. That was, it's the fall, you know,

it's like getting closer to Halloween a month away. Yeah. They bring pumpkin spice back in like late August now and I'm like, it's ridiculous. Dude,

there were Halloween decorations in August at like a target and that pissed me off. I think I figured that out. You need to wait. Post Labor Day. You have to wait post Labor Day for Halloween. I think the Halloween stuff is they,

it's just an excuse they want to start selling the candy and the decorations are just there. Of course. You know what? We should probably talk about football. We'll talk about this later. Okay, anyway, trivia. Question from Sean.

Sean. In honor of Craig bringing back the debutante ball. The Greenland shark is the longest living vertebrae. We've talked about this list for like hundreds and hundreds of years. At what age does the Greenland shark reach, quote, maturity? So what age is? Does the Greenland shark hit puberty? The Greenland shark, which can live to like 300 years old at what age is sexually mature?

Or maturity, actually. I don't know if there's the same thing. Wait, can we look up? Can we know how long the shark lives? Is that allowed in the discovery process? I think that's fair. No, I think that's okay. It's like 400 years.

Okay. I'm just guessing. It ages, it's like, it lives at least 250. They may live over 500. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, they might live 400 years. By the way, can I suggest something live on air?

Can I suggest an edit for this show? I don't want to do the texting anymore. I think it's worse. I think it sucks the energy out of things. I think we should say at the same time. All right, I agree. Nobody wants to hear people group text. Okay, so I have an answer.

I do too. All right. God, I don't know. Okay, sure. I'm ready. All right. Three, two, one. One.

30. One year. You say one? Yeah. What? What kind of got? I like that. I like that.

You know what I've learned? I think we're on year three at Showdown time. I have learned to not make fun of anyone's guesses because all of these trivia questions are so ridiculous that half the time

the person with the most ridiculous answer is usually correct. Right. I said 40. 5 said 80. D.K. said one. So you're saying they come out the womb? Like, and they just, he's just mature?

After one year. Yeah. Correct. Correct. Yes. Okay. That's what I'm saying. All right.

Well, the answer is 150 years. Dude, that's ridiculous. Wow. Man. So I was wrong about that. Wow, 150. So almost like maybe sometimes more than halfway through its life. That's no way to live.

I think a quarter of it, a quarter of its life, that kind of tracks, doesn't it? Yeah, but when you're young and carefree. If they live to 250, 300 and it happens at 150, that's over half your life or halfway through your life. I don't buy it. Yeah, that's a dying word. I don't know. I mean, we go through puberty at like 14 and we live to 80. Yeah, but we're supposed to get it at 150 and die at 270?

We're supposed to die at like 40, aren't we? We just like... I don't think we're, I don't think so. I think we're supposed to live longer. We just keep eating Doritos. No free ads. Okay. I get Zach Moss.

You two can fight for scraps. All right, Craig. Who's closer? Dick is... Craig should get like three picks in a row because of about 14 people who lives off. DK for the record, I don't think your guess was out of line or embarrassing in any way. I appreciate that. So, wait, to be abundantly clear, just to be clear, Kyron Williams and guys like the Rams,

like those guys are above the roster threshold. We would take those guys next. Yes. But we're not counting them. So among guys who are under 40 percent, Craig can pick. So I think, so both the Ravens guys, Justice Hill and Gus Edwards are on the board here. And then I would say a couple other interesting ones. I'm probably going to take a Raven.

What's tough here is that Gus Edwards. Edwards had the better fantasy day, but Justice Hill kind of got more work. He out snapped Edwards by 11 snaps. He was the main goal line guy, the main two-minute guy, the main third down guy. Basically, Gus Edwards got the one inside the five carry and turned it into a touchdown. So I guess I'm going to go with Justice Hill. I guess I'll take Justice Hill on the Ravens or playing the Colts next week. Yeah, that's how I would have ranked it to. In fact, I think I saw that Justice Hill had a carry right before Gus Edwards did and he didn't get in. And then Gus Edwards came in and took and basically sniped the touchdown.

So Craig, you're taking essentially Justice Hill and or Gus Edwards. And I want to go from there, man, there's just a number of guys that I think are kind of like on the same plane. I guess I'm going to say Taj Spears for the Titans. There's probably like four or five different guys here that I would pick from. But basically Taj Spears, he's gotten quite a bit of snaps. It hasn't really translated into a ton of touches yet. But I think as the year goes on, we could see them.

start to incorporate him more. It's like they've been using both Tajay Spears and Derek Henry in the game at the same time. He's definitely running a lot of routes. He's gotten most of their third down work. So I guess I'm going to go with Tajay Spears, but there's quite a few other players, too, that I'd add to the list. Can we have the Sequin conversation?

Can we have the Eric Gray, Matt Breedah? I think the overarching theme of this week is that unless you need a running back, there's Zach Moss and there's a lot of fly. Lotsom. Like last week there was like, real like, Kairn Williams just starting running back for the Rams. Like, Zach Balls will be the starting run bear for the Colts and now he is. Like there was real opportunity, Justice Stone Gus Edwards. But otherwise, I think we're looking at this week,

it's like a lot of short term guys. And I'm like, I don't know how much short term need there is. You don't have biweeks, right? Like yet. And the injuries that have happened are Sequin Barkley for the Giants and David Montgomery for the Lions. Like there aren't like those aren't going to even last probably to week five, knock on wood. So the giants, it's like Sequin has this ankle injury. we don't know if it's high or low ankle, but it seems like Sequin has this low ankle injury,

which isn't as bad as a high ankle. So I feel like it's not particularly complicated. Sequin is probably not going to play on Thursday night football against the 49ers because it's an ankle sprain. Why play him three days later? But then he gets 11 days to rest up to play the Seahawks on Monday at football.

He'll probably be back for that game. So unless you have Seekwan and you don't have another running back option. High Fids is making a lot of proclamations right now about Seekwant's health. Am I? You're hexing him again. Yeah. All right, probably. But my point being, so Eric, we were just talking about Zach Moss.

Sequin didn't come off the field. There were two snaps. There's Eric Gray and there's Matt Breedah. Matt Breeder played two snaps. Matt Breed is like a 28-year-old scat-back speed guy who's 28 now and really just a wily veteran. Eric Gray is a fifth round rookie out of Oklahoma who I really, really like. He's like their kick returner and they don't play. And so if the Giants' offense, the whole thing was Sequin.

He says on the field all the time. The offense is like running through him. These guys aren't going to get that. treatment. Matt Breda's going to get some passing down work. I don't think Matt Boret said double digit carries in two or three years. Eric Gray is a rookie who basically doesn't play. And so I don't want any of these guys. And especially when you factor in that I hope that sick one's a short term injury, unless you were like capital de-desperate. I don't think you want the giants. I'd actually rather have the lion's situation with Craig Reynolds where David Montgomery's out a couple weeks. And I

actually think Craig Reynolds will step in and immediately get double-digit carries and it'll be really annoying because Jemir Gibbs won't play as much as you'd want. Greg Reynolds will be there. He's probably a better bet. But unless you need a running back, I don't think any of these people will actually be relevant outside of Zach Moss, Hill, and Edwards. I don't think any of these guys are going to be relevant two or three weeks from now. Yeah, if you're desperate, Eric Gray, Matt Breda, Craig Reynolds are the guys that are like sort of the next men up and will get carries in theory.

But I would rather, honestly, if you can use this week to kind of stash a guy, Roshan Johnson for the bear. Yeah. He already has jumped above Deonté 4. in the pecking order in the Bears backfield. He's looked pretty good in the passing game. Like he's just a talented tackle breaking type guy. He could see his role grow.

Like I mentioned, Taj Spears. He's more of a stash at this time, but I think he's also worth adding. And so, yeah, this week is not super strong for running backs out of those top three. I think Spears is really good when DK. Again, if you like need a running back, sure, like Craig Reynolds. But in reality, I think Tajay Spears is really smart. I like that one a lot. So cool.

Go get Zekmos. Wide receiver. DK. Give us your number one receiver ad at every week. I am going with Tank Dell, the receiver for the Texans. For the Texans? Yeah. Craig?

I didn't go with him. I went with Tutu Atwell for the Rams. Yeah. You know, I'm between Tutu and another person. And part of me is like, do I just do the Tutu to do the trivia question? Yeah, for the content. Do it for the content. For the listeners at home.

Do it for America. And that way I kind of want to lose. All right. I'll take Tutu Atwell too since he's the top 20 player. But I just another person who doesn't care about more. Craig, give us the Tutu Outwell's showdown time. All right. Can you believe we're here with Tutu Atwell, he was so irrelevant.

It is the Tutu Atwell Showdown time. Welcome to the club, Tutu. Is his name, Tutu? What's his name? Yeah, that's a good question. It's actually a good question. Let's see. Maybe that should be the quiz.

His name is Shatarius Tutu Atwell. Oh, I knew that. Yes, I knew that. Okay. Here's the question. This one is from David. Big Dave. What do you got?

David. On your take. purge in April before the draft, Hyfitz referenced the fact that Dan Snyder bought the Washington football team in May 1999 for $800 million. Having sold the team for $6.05 billion, it seems like it was a good investment. Here's the question. If Dan Snyder had instead bought $800 million of Apple stock in May 1999, what would his investment be worth today? Ooh, this is a good question. $800 million in Apple stock in the 90s? Yeah. Wow. I mean, he'd be the richest person to ever live, I would assume.

What's Apple worth $2 trillion? What is Apple stock trading at? They're trading at like 200, but there was a stock split, which totally messes with the math. Okay. Getting two in the weeds. Just throw out a number. All right, fine. I totally know what that is.

Three, two, one, go. $600 billion. $13 billion. $600. Oh, my God. I actually have no idea he's right. I love how far apart we are on every single. I have no.

$600 billion. Okay. So the answer is, holy shit. Okay. Oh my God. Craig. He would have.

$200 billion. Oh, my God. 292 billion? Is that $192 billion? I'm not good with numbers. A lot of zeros. He added all the zeros that I don't really know for sure. I think that's bull of you.

Great job. How much total? $2. $2. He's not usually $12. $12. Wow. Okay.

So Craig gets $292. Oh, my God. Holy shit. So he really, this is a terrible investment. Also wait, also wait, we're going to have people yelling at us

that Craig is relatively, I'm actually closer because I was $150 billion off or so and Craig was like four. But no, Craig got the order of, Craig's closer. He gets spiritual.

No, no, no. You're closer. You should get it. Yeah. But am I? I mean, you did the thing again where you made fun of me

for the ridiculous answer, but no, I think you should get it. All right, fine. Okay, so Haifitz gets two, too. I get two at well. Craig, I kind of don't even want him.

Okay. Well, um, what the fuck? $200 billion and you won't even take $2.2.2.2.2. $2.200. Um, I mean, right, 2.2 Atwell is the 18th best wide receiver in fantasy football right now. Yeah.

And he's got basically averaging 100 yards a game. And they're playing Cincinnati on Sunday night football. And look, this might be short-lived until Cooper Cup comes back. But 2-2 is, a real weapon in this offense and provides something that nobody else does right now. Like he is the speed component. Pukinukua is not a fast player. That was like his one knock coming out of college.

They have Van Jefferson, Tyler Higby, not an explosive player. It's like, Tutu's their speed guy and they're using him a lot. And if I put on my like first take talk show hat here, it's people forget, you know, Tutu, this man was a second round pick by Sean McVeigh in 2021. Coming out of Louisville, we all knew he had this in him. Yeah. I'm not overthinking it. He was actually, when you look at everything except for his weight, which is like 159 pounds, that's a very important key number.

However, if you looked at everything else besides his weight, like he was a pretty good prospect. His production in college was really good. You know, he's a fast guy. He checks a lot of boxes in both athleticism and production. And but everyone was just like, this guy can't possibly be good in the NFL because he's small. But then since he was drafted, we've seen a lot of very small guys come out and be pretty productive or at least be. exciting in their, you know, requisite roles or whatever. And so, and by the way, my guy is in the exact same category. I was going to say. A super, super, super small guy that was just like one of the

most productive players in college football last year. Tank Dell for the Texans who, uh, he, in, in week one, he only played 48% of snaps. And then this last week, he came in and he actually led the team in, snap rate and had seven catches, 62 yards, a touchdown. I think, I want to say he had another play another touchdown that was called back for a penalty. So he's clearly got a good connection with C.J. Stroud. When they drafted him, I think Tank Dell was saying that C.J. Stroud convinced the team that he wanted them to draft Tank Dell. So it's clear that they have a pretty good connection.

And so, yeah, I think just if you're trying to skate to where the puck is going, it feels like Tank Dell is going to have a pretty big role going forward. And by the way, this is a team so far that has run, I think, the second most place, per game of any team in NFL. They're going to be trailing a lot. C.J. Stroud has looked really solid. So all these reasons together makes me like Tink Dell. But I also like the two to out one.

He was my next highest ranked receiver. Yeah. Speaking of skating to where the puck is going, are the Texans just like a get-in-while-you-can team? Like, are they Apple in the 90s right now where we should be gobbling up all these wide receivers? Because if Stroud is actually legit good and they're down a lot because their defense sucks,

this could be a gold mine. We could have $200 billion. by the end of the year. I think $2,200 billion. No, I think you're right. Like, there is a Kirkland brand Lions, like where last year it was like a Monron,

all these, like the defense is terrible, and they're just throwing all the time, and Jared Goff was usable. There is something with Stroud where I think you're totally right. Like Nico Collins, if you have him, is just like a scratch-off lottery. He looks awesome. Yeah.

And I think Tank Dell is like that the same way. I think that's a really good point, Craig. That's why I actually can do the thing. You ever see someone win on waivers, win a guy and then just cut him for someone else? They change their mind? I'm going to do that right now. Yes, yes.

Because I agree. I actually, I think I would take tank, I agree with everything you said to Craig about two, too. I think the receivers are just stronger than the running backs. Unless you need a running back, I'd actually take all these receivers over the guys outside of Zach Moss. But the other guy we haven't talked about yet, who I love is Josh Reynolds for the Lions. This was a great call by you, High Fitz.

He's a mere seven inches taller than your two people, no offense. It's like 100 pounds heavier. He's a starting receiver on the Lions. I think this is going to go down as my unsexiest thing I've ever got. gotten right in my entire life, but like Josh Reynolds, do you, can you guys take a guess? Do you know where Josh Reynolds ranks among fantasy receivers through two weeks? Guess. He's probably 18.

Because he's two touchdowns last week. He's 10th. Oh, okay. He's literally behind Diggs and he's ahead of C.D. Lamb. He's actually out scored Alman Ross St. Brown. Yeah. And so here's the thing. Like the reality is everyone's excited about Jameson Williams.

He's the first round pick that took out Alabama. He was, you know, recovering last year from a knee injury. He's suspended for gambling the first six games. And it's like Josh Reynolds was starting. receiver for this team. And Josh Reynolds has started with four catches for 80 yards in week one. Then he had like against the chiefs two touchdowns this week. But here's the thing. Nate Junkie at Pro Football Focus at a great point, which was the lions of the most favorable, the most favorable schedule for wide receivers over the next six weeks, according to PFF's

strength of schedule. And James William is still out for the next four games of those six. Yeah. But then the next two is going to be eased to do the offense anyway. So you have basically have that whole six-week stretch with the most favorable streak, Josh Reynolds is starting. And then on top of it, Amon Raus St. Brown might have gotten hurt. Again, we're recording this Monday so the value of Josh Reynolds could go way up or down. But Amon Ra's St. Brown might have turf toe. We don't know. Like, definitely check before you put on your waivers.

But if Amonra has turf, I think Josh, we'll see. I don't know. I think it's come out that he had to put like a special shoe in or insert into a shoe. It sounds like it's going to be turf toe. Again, we don't know for sure. That's what I don't understand. I don't know. It's Monday.

I'm not going to pretend to know. But check it by the time you put it on Tuesday. Because if Amonra is out, I think this is a no-brainer that Josh Reynolds is first. And even if Amonra is fine, I still am like, I mean, damn, he's like the starting outside receiver on this Lions team. So I like Josh Reynolds a lot. I think he's going to be like weirdly, weirdly serviceable for the first half of the season. Yeah.

I think that's a good one, high fits. He was my next guy on that list. Do you want to run through a couple other random guys that I think could be worth adding this week at the receiver position. If you, if you like need someone to play, I think one of those three guys, you're going to get one of those three guys. I really wouldn't go. Like, if you need to put someone in your lineup, I actually

would, I think one of those three guys has to be there. Tankdale, Reynolds are Atwell. Stash, I had two guys written around. I'm written down. I'm curious what you think. Marvin Mims for the Broncos, who had 113 yards in a touchdown, but he played six snaps. Six, this is just Deverey Henderson. What do we do? Remember Deverey Henderson on those Saints teams?

Oh, yeah. Wow, what a comp. I'm like, is that just all Marvin? Mims is going to be? No. I think he's a great stash if your team is really good right now and the rich can get richer if you just hold on to him and maybe by the end of the year he's something. But you're probably not playing him next week. I like that one though.

I like that one though, Highfitz, because like the guys in front of him, I literally have like never heard of. Brandon Johnson? Who is this guy? Actually, I heard of little Jordan Humphys. Yeah. But I don't know. It seems like he's at some point very soon going to leapfrog

to those guys and be like a bigger part of this offense. So that one's a great one. I was going to say Devanti Parker for the Patriots, who he missed week one with a knee injury, but came in. He had six catches, 57 yards on eight targets. And most importantly,

he was in for like 97%. No, sorry, he played on all 71% of the team's offensive snaps. And he was the only guy to do that. Juju Smith-Juster played on 60%. Kendrick Bourne, who was a good ad last week, only played on 51% of their snaps.

The Patriots are really rotating their receivers this year. And they've got like DiMario, Douglas coming in and he's like been sniping some guys for their snaps and everything like that. So the guy who's playing 100% of the snaps,

like to me, there's some value there, especially with the way the Patriots offense has been playing. I think you're probably technically correct, but it's so unsexy. It's just sad.

It is the most boring thing that you could imagine. I'm off the guys, I'd like to announce I'm off the Devonte Parker train. I'm out. You were freaking driving the train. Yeah, well now he's old

and he's on the paths and I have no interest in him in the Mac Jones. led offense. A couple other guys. We didn't mention Jayden Reed on the Packers, did we? No. Not yet. He's another guy who is a rookie, had two touchdowns this week,

targeted on 33% of routes, looks good. Watson, Christian Watson, their number one guy is out with a hamstring right now. Jaden Reed just looks good and explosive. Another guy to keep an eye on. And one more, who barely missed our threshold. He's 41% rostered. Cadarius Tony, my friends,

has a 38.5% target rate. That is the second best among all wide receivers in the NFL with more than 20 routes. When this man's on the field, they throw to him. He ran 11 routes in week one, 15 in week two. They're easing him in. But this guy's getting five, six touches a game already and he's

playing 15 snaps a game. Yeah. What's his fumble rate? Where does that rank? He recovered. He did have a fumble. Hearing Cadarist Tony as the secondized target rate, I feel like, remember when Nitello was like we're a healthy breakfast alternative? What's Andy read up to then? Why do we could give him this guy of the ball when he's on the field.

I actually agree with you. I would not like put Cadarist Tony in my lineup at all. But I actually, if I was, if I was going to stash a player and I'm like my team set and I'm going to keep someone just in case they're actually like a top 10 receiver for like two months from now, I would probably take Rashad Bateman from the Ravens first because O'Dell Beckham is her,

Bateman's a first round receiver. He's recovering from a foot injury. And I'm kind of like, this is the kind of guy we've given up on that I'm like, he's really good. However, I agree that I would also stash Kadir's Tony. Like I, he's worth it. He shouldn't be on weight. All right.

He's not Apple stock. I don't know what he is. Is he like doge coin? I don't know what he is. Is he Bitcoin? Doge coin. Yeah, because the joke was on you the whole time. That's pretty good.

But you can make a lot of money in a day if you time it right. Yeah, it was a meme. Yeah. I like that. Okay. So play 2-2 Josh At Reynolds, Tank Dell. Those guys are legit. And then Marvin Mims, Bateman, Kedars, Tony.

I like that. Well, except for Tony. Wow. Also, Rashid, if he's out there. Again, all this is spending money in football. Like, we'll see what happens. Rashid, Donovan of People's Jones.

Like maybe those guys are terrible. Maybe they're great. We don't know what happens. So keep that in mind, obviously Jonathan McGill for the Panthers. Still to play. All right. Let's get to tight ends here.

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I'm not going to lie. I know the ad's over right now. Like, I know, like, this isn't even going to be part of the ad, but I had a great time with it. I loved the fourth games on my big TV. I bought a big TV when I moved into my condo. I was like really made the place to get a 70-incher. And I was like, it needs to be. And it's paid off. It's great. I can see all four games, clearly. Having a TV now that's like clear enough and large enough and then you use the multi-view

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Tight end. God. I know. It's bleak already. D.K., just bat us up. Who is the tight end that you would add entering week three? I'm going back to the well. I'm taking Zach Ertz.

You guys refuse to listen to me. But Zach Hertz from the Cardinals. I agree. I do refuse to listen to you. I begrudgingly have him second. I guess, I know this isn't even, this is real recency bias, but I'm taking Hunter Henry

and I'm not, I don't have my heart in it. I think that's fine. I think that, that would be my second choice. My heart's not in it, though. Okay. I also do Zachertz.

Zacherts leads all tight ends and targets right now, which is shocking. He has a 30% target rate. You know what's crazy is sometimes there are things where I'm like, I should have saw that coming, and sometimes Zachers,

It's just, when was he even returning from practice for this ACL injury? Dude, he didn't, I don't even know if he practiced in full before week one. He was like limited. We're not talking enough about his injury recovery. Yeah. It was so close. Like also because his wife was in the World Cup. And so I was like, he's not the most famous person in his own marriage this month in

sports. I'm like, who care? And like he came back. And again, like he came back from ACL and just immediately Josh Dobbs. It was so obvious in week one that Josh Dobbs was. And Josh Dobbs was like every time he panicked, Quantum Leap Josh Dobbs, just like, oh my God, how did I get here? Just like, Zach Ertz. So, and it just remains that way.

So Ertz leaves tight ends and targets. I just, if he's there, like, that's it. Like, he's getting the ball a lot, all we have to say. All right. So today we've had the two-till Atwell showed on time. We've had the Zach Moss showdown time. And now we're about to have the Zach Ertz showdown time. What a depressing week.

week two slate of wavered targets. It's not, no, this is not depressing. It's gonna get way worse. Zach Moss is like a starting running back. I don't know, man. I think if you would have told me coming in. No,

I know they're playing well, but just the name value, the brand value of these three names, like a year ago, were quite low. We're quite low. We're going to be talking about Stone Smart on the charges

in like three weeks. Oh, for Christ's sake. Damn straight. Every Sunday night, we will. Questions from John. John.

John, John asks, Milt Plum attended Penn State University, as we all know. Yeah, we do. Where does Milt Plum rank all time in passing yards at Penn State? Oh, my God. Milt Plum. All right. I'm ready for my answer.

Okay. Hi, Fitz. You ready? I'm trying to remember when we looked him up if he was good or not. I just read a lot about Milt Plum. Nobody in that era was good at throwing. sorry to say all right

three two one 10th 90th wow we are all always polar opposites DK

so wait you said 10 hyphen said 90th DK is the winner he was 38 all right but he threw for 675

total passing yards how is that 38th all time what the hell John where are you getting these numbers Let me Google Penn State All-time passing yards.

Okay. In the non-modern era. I have it here. Single season yards. They've had 39 total quarterbacks in the history of Penn State. Oh, he's right? No, it's 38th is correct.

I'm there right now. That is correct. How many total quarterbacks have there been? Well, on this list, it goes down to 135. Holy shit. That might just be people throwing a pass though.

Yeah. I think it's probably more like 80. It's starting to look around like like yeah, maybe even less than that. Maybe like 60 guys. People have thrown more than 10 passes for Penn State is 64.

Anyway, D-kick at Zackertz. My God, milk plum failed me. All right. So I think the guys on between, again, Joanne Johnson for the Saints,

depending what he does, on money at football, like obviously factor that in. I am still between our guy Luke Musgrave for the Packers, who he's playing as a receiver, he's getting looks. There's upside there. He's a really good player.

The other guy I like, and I kind of think he's going to blow up this week, is actually Jake Ferguson for the Cowboys. I like him. He's been very involved in the offense, even though the offense hasn't needed to do anything for the Cowboys. They just destroyed the Giants. The Cowboys had one drive against the Giants,

and then we're up 16 points because of the rain and special teams in defense. And then the Jets, it's like they didn't need to do much. They just were like, all right, we're going to score and run the ball out. And so, and he's Jake Ferguson still caught a touchdown. But now the Cowboys are playing the Cardinals,

and I don't think the Cardinals have defended a tight end since like, I don't know, five or six years. Like the Cardinals just cannot defend tight ends. And I feel like Jake Ferguson, we will, like, he's a good player and he has a role in this offense, and I think the Cowboys are going to have a top three offense this year, and he just hasn't really had to do anything yet. But I think Jake Ferguson's going to be one of those, like,

few lottery tickets left. not even a lottery ticket, but just there are a couple like boats off this island of tight end streaming and I think Jake Ferguson's going to be one of those boats. So I would do Ertz Musgrave for Ferguson because otherwise you're going to be doing this all year. I like the Henry call too, Craig.

Yeah, the thing about Hunter Henry is, I think he's the only tied in right now with 50 yards in a touchdown in each of the first two weeks, which is really sad. I think we call that the anti-pits. The paths have thrown a lot because of who they've played the last two weeks and I don't know if that's going to keep up.

He's run 85 routes Hunter Hennett's. which is the second most at Tyban. So I don't know, I just don't know if that's going to continue. But right now, he seems to be a go-to guy. Also, I kind of think you should buy low on Chigakon-Ku right now on Tennessee. I don't know what you guys think about that. We liked him so much coming in. And the whole knock on him was he didn't play a lot last year.

He's playing way more this year. And the Titans just were a disaster in week one. And, you know, they kind of actually put things together. Obviously, they beat the Chargers in week two. but you know, Chig had four targets he caught all of them 35 yards

DeAndre Hopkins is beat up like I still think that he could be relevant in this offense and is a bylaw I don't think we should just give up

on him just because of one bad week I'm into it I think it's true I did see that he's going to start wearing rib protection because he hurt his ribs

but I agree with you a lot of rib injuries to start the season a lot of hamstrings and ribs yeah I think it's because we're soft Snowflake generation

yeah we don't stretch anymore these days. You know, the kids, we're all just bench pressing. Plometrics, you know, calisthenics. That's tight end. Quarterback, we don't have to showdown time. But, dude, Jordan Love is the number two quarterback in fantasy football.

That's cool. Yeah. Nice job, Hyford. It's your guy. I will say I did not say. I loved Jordan Love, I think, more than anyone, and I did not see this coming. We'll see. It's like, reality check into the saints.

But you did quarterback. Had Jordan Love. I think he's, like, also mobile. Like, we keep seeing Sam Howells Mobile. Jordan Love is mobile. I think he's going to have rushing touchdowns this year. He can move. Yeah, he's kind of sneaky fast.

Who do they got, what defense they faced in this week? The Saints. I don't think I would like, you don't need to plug and play Jordan Love. I mean, maybe if you have Burrow, like,

but it, Burrow doesn't play. Yeah, Jordan Love is a good option. Sam Howell for Washington. Matt Stafford, who is tearing it up and they still had a lot of their touchdowns

on the ground. But I would say Jordan Love, Stafford, one of those guys, but Jordan is a guy that I might hold. Yeah. Yeah, Strau. Yeah, Straff.

Yeah, Straff. But realistically, you probably don't need a quarterback unless you just, unless you just have Joe Barrow. All right. Defense is the Chiefs defense, man. The Chiefs defense, they're playing the Bears.

They're probably out in your league. Justin Fields is a turnover machine. The Bears' offense is broken. It's a very poorly designed. The whole thing's kind of sad. Steve Spicknolo, the Chief's Defense coordinator is legit. The Chief's defense is legit. I, this is a no-braider.

I would just target the Bears. This is going to be tough. and then if they're not there I see the team against Carolina I don't know but the Chief Steve Steve's really good yeah the other one also if you can't get that

if Joe Burroughs out dude the Rams defense I don't know oh against against Sinczy yeah I don't yeah I don't know the unsirious group yeah I mean can you name the Bengals backup quarterback right now

Jake Browning wow yes oh yeah can't say I've seen him play football in the NFL by the way I started the Giants defense this week in fantasy

They got me negative one. Awesome. Nice. They recorded no sacks. Defense, baby. No, no interceptions, nothing. Just 28 hard-earned points. That's it.

Last week in the show, plug the bucks. High-scoring defense of the week. All right, you guys want to do some emails? Yeah, yes. All right, this is from Cameron. Cam. My friend had the 12th pick at our draft and really wanted Bejan Robinson.

Unfortunately, Bijon was picked at the 11th pick. But my friend did not notice, and he just saw B. Robinson was available and drafted him. He drafted Brian Robinson Jr. 12th overall. We all make fun of him. My friend is undefeated and has the most points in our league. Yeah, the RB3, baby. Love it. This is why fantasy is pointless.

Fantasy is ridiculous. Yes, there is no rhyme or reason to. anything. It is all just particles floating around in the universe. I'm losing to Skippy's mom this week in our family league. Sure. Skippy's mom famously two years ago drafted Dan Orlovsky with her first pick of the draft. He was no longer in the NFL. I don't know how she found him on the player list.

But she drafted, so that just gives you an idea of how invested she is in fantasy. She's beating me. Did she explain why? Did she do it on purpose? I truly, like, I was like, I was like, laughing too hard. I couldn't figure out how this happened. I don't literally like, I don't know where he was in the player pool. Like, he was

literally retired. And she found him somehow, Dan Rolowski, and drafted him with her first round. She was able to navigate the search function on Yahoo! Drafts, which is like impossible. No one ever searches her player's names in Yahoo or ESPN drafts. I can't believe that. Yeah. It was the funniest

moment I've ever had in a draft. It was like your friend that was trolling all the people by drafting a kicker in the first round, except for she was not trolling. She just thought it was, just is funny naturally. And those were mock traps, not a real one. Dan Orlovsky, first round pick. Anyway, fantasy sucks.

I hate it. All right, Zima from Sam. Sam, Sammy. All right, as we know, Hyfitz has inadvertently doomed many football players over the last few weeks. Inadvertently? His new bit has been trying to curse D.K.

into getting explosive diarrhea in the middle of the pot. 372 episodes in a row for D.K. I'm holding strong. Just that. Hold and strong. Sam continues, The Reaper still lives because this week, Hyfitz got me.

God. After being a fully remote employee for the last five years, I've never had diarrhea in a Zoom meeting. Until the day I listened to Hyphitz calling out D.K.'s diarrhea streak. What the hell? The same day that Hyphid said this, in shame, I, in a meeting, turned off my camera, ran to the bathroom immediately next to my office, and I shit my brains out.

In shame, I turned off my camera, ran to the bathroom immediately next to my office, shit my brains out. I come back and notice, I never muted my microphone. Oh. Oh. Move town. I was alone at home. Quit everything and move away. That's your only option.

So I'm thinking, all right. But then he says, I was alone at home, so I never closed the door. They had to hear this. Does anybody hear him? Did they say anything? Well, he says, did they hear me on the meeting? Is my reputation ruined? Do I quit my job and move to a new town?

I don't have the heart, courage, or stupidity to try to figure out if they found out. For now, all I know is I had a streak going until Hyphen said something. I think they did hear. How could they not have? Do you guys? Have you seen the documentary, The Jinks on HBO? It's about the serial killer Robert Durst, and he gets outed in the show, in the documentary.

But he goes to the bathroom with a hot mic on it. He's wearing a mic on his lapel. And he confesses while peeing in the urinal. And he says while he's peeing, he's like, you did it, like they got you. And what Sam did is worse. Sam had a worse hot mic experience Worse than Robert Dersh.

That is a statement. It's time to start a new life. Think about where you want to live. You can live anywhere in the world right now. Where do you want to move to? I think the thing is a new job isn't enough. Is Hypathe's new nickname the laxative? The hyphets hex.

This is weird. This is, he's not the, this guy's not the only person who's said this has happened. It's like High Fitz is putting it out into the universe and people are inducing diarrhea. Somehow like inheriting that or whatever. They're absorbing it. It's weird. Well, actually, I think the problem with diarrhea is you can't absorb anything. Well, on the field players are metaphorically diarying as they get hurt left and right.

And then the listeners at home are also struggling. It's quite the power. It is. I'm just trying to imagine. Like, they had to have heard, how could they not have heard the meat? So what do they do in the meeting? Like they're there. Say it's like five people and he leaves.

The other five people have to acknowledge it. They can't even say, like, hey, can you mute? Like, do they leave the meeting? Do they end the meeting and start a new meeting and talk about it? Someone who's running the meeting has to mute him. I feel like if there's like a hero in the group, whoever's the. Oh. But then do you continue once someone's acknowledged, they have to do that?

Like, hey, person who started the meeting, can you mute his thing? Yeah, we're all adults here. Everybody's shit. If you had a close friend, a close co-worker in that call, I would definitely text them and say, hey, be honest, did people hear me using the restroom? Also, you know, maybe they just heard the flushes. I think that's what's most, I think that's the most likely scenarios. They just heard the flushes. And hopefully the sound of the false.

Too many cameras, too many microphones in the world. I feel like freaking Amazon Alexa is listening to us constantly. Big Brother State, you know? No free ads. Can't do anything anymore. There's no privacy. You know what's funny? Everybody always talks shit about Alexa.

No one really does it about Siri, even though it's probably the same thing. It's because Apple has better branding and people love Apple. So nobody shits on Siri. They always shit on Alexa. That's a good point. I just, have you ever actually, like, heard a rant from someone who thinks the vaccine had a tracking? And I'm like, did you read this in Google Chrome on your iPhone? Yeah.

So were you, like, you know what I mean? Did you, like, hit the ask the app to, like, a loud track button? It's fine. Oh, he's amazing to me. Anyway, all right, well, on that lovely note, thank you, Craig, thank you, D.K. Thank you, everyone for listening. Thank you, Kai.

Thank you, milk plum. Thank you, Lauren. Thank you, hieroglyphics. Oh, nice. I don't remember. I don't know. Hiroclivics are, they're from, I mean, when did they start the 90s? They've got a great at the helm,

just like a very catchy. Oh, amazing song. or whatever you call that. I believe, yeah, at the helm, great song. I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, D.K. Isn't Dell the funky Homo sapien in hyperglyphics? That sounds right. I think so.

I don't know for sure. Huyves, you know him? I'm sure you do. He's like a famous rapper from the 90s. Yes. He has a song in a Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3, I think. Oh, then yes, I do know. But that absolutely.

Mr. Dobbin? Yeah. You know that song? Mr. Dobelina, Mr. Dobabelina, or however you say that. Got it. That's him. So he's in hieroglyphics? Okay, got it.

Yeah. Oh. Yeah. He is in that. You never knew. Confirmed. Did you know he's a cool cousin? Wow.

Is he? Wow. There you go. Wow. I got to say, you know, we were talking about dumb band names? Del the Funky Homo sapiens is just a straight up cool name. Hell yeah. That's as cool as a guest.

The funky homo sapiens. Like that's 10 out of 10. He nailed it. For sure. All right. Goodbye, everyone.