The Ringer NFL Show - Offseason Mega-Mailbag

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

The guys open up the mailbag to answer the most burning fantasy, draft-related, and non-football-related listener questions on everything from the art of late-round drafting to whether the Packers need a no. 1 wide receiver to the origin of the Chipwich (2:10). Check out our 2025 Ringer NFL Draft Guide here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producers: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hi everyone, it's Amy Polar, and I'm launching a new podcast called Good Hang. In preparation for that, I asked some of my friends to send in some videos and give me some advice. Just be yourself, and the guests will come. Don't be the celebrity that this is their like sixth thing they're doing. I love two crime and cooking podcasts. Is there any way you could combine the two? Well, everyone has an opinion and a podcast. So, join me for Good Hang. It's rough out there. We're just trying to lighten it up a little. Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Heiton. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig

Royal Bank in in Los Angeles. We are recording this on Tuesday, February 11th. You're listening to this next week because we're going to go to Indianapolis Combine the week of February 24th, and frankly, we kind of need a little break. So. I am going to miss you guys. It's been, what day is it?

8.10? It's Wednesday. It's Tuesday 11. Since last Monday. So this is day 9 together? It's been a lot. Today's Tuesday. Oh, my God. Okay. Eight days. A minute.

They started to blend together. So we're doing this mailbag today, and then we're going to have a combine preview next week. We're going to be live. We're not live. We're just going to be together in Indianapolis, in the NFL Combine. That's going to be a lot of fun. Yes, the NFL Combined. We will combine at the Combine.

We will combine at the Combine. So we're going to go through and just go through mailbags for everyone. And then, yeah, and also just remind it, ring our NFL Draft show. We're their NFL Draft show now. And so, you know, the other 5 million podcasts in Spotify, they're just to keep the same name all year. It is. They're wrong. we're the right ones.

I don't know what they're missing. Amateur hour. Like we're, why have one name when you could have two names? Seriously. People love it. People love the name change. So we're really excited for that.

So yeah, NFL Draft Show is our name and just follow or subscribe or that sounds confusing. But no, it's pretty, everyone gets, understands why that happens, right? Just don't touch that dial.

Don't touch that dial. It's better when Craig does it. Don't touch that dial. Yeah, that's so much better. Anyway, let's just get to the mailback. So again, email's at ringerfancy football, gmail.

And we're just going to jump into this. So I want to start with a question from Thomas, which I love this email. Tommy. Tommy! I love this email. Genuine question. Okay. Why does Eagles head coach Nick Siriani get all this hate from you guys for being a cheerleader

and not being impactful in terms of the Eagle's success, especially compared to other coaches that similarly rely on their offensive and defensive coordinator to call plays? Obviously, everyone loves Dan Campbell with the Lions. There are other coaches that don't call offense or defensive plays. Mike Tomlin with the Steelers, John Harbar, John Harbar with the Ravens. and Thomas writes, I'm a Steelers fan. I have no skin in this game.

I'm honestly just curious for your take. What makes Nick Siriani different or worse than those other guys? A couple things, I think. First off, I would say a couple things. I think that's a really fair question. It is, it is. Honestly, Nick Siriani is just kind of a goofball.

Have you ever heard? Has Mike Tomlin ever gotten in an argument with fans? You know what I mean? Have you ever heard Dan Campbell talk? Yeah. I want to run through a wall. He could explain, he could read the dictionary. and I'd be like, hell yeah, let's go!

Yeah. I don't think I've ever had that reaction to Seriani. It all started with his opening press conference, I would say, which was awkward to say the least. He fights with fans. He fights with his players a lot. He is just like a way more chaotic and less motivating, I would say, publicly compared to guys like Mike Tomlin and Dan Campbell,

who have a sense that they kind of have it all together. Nick Seriani kind of feels like he's flying by the feet of his pants a lot. Yeah, and it's a fair question because obviously he's doing, I mean, they won the Super Bowl. guess we have to admit he's good. The success is there. And players do like him. Players love him.

They do like him. But the flip side is there are other things where... Maybe he just hates jail nerds. I don't know. Jay Brown just mad at everyone. I think the short answer is you hear things about it, like, Siriani that you don't hear about with other coaches. Starting with most NFL head coaches are kind of like the steady hand with players

and they use emotion in calculated spots, which I actually would count Dan Campbell like that, which for all the emotion with him, during the game, pretty calm, pretty level-headed. Mike Tomlin, like, emotions are something to be controlled. and unleashed. Whereas Nick Siriani, he's the one arguing with Drake Greenlaw on the sideline last season in the middle,

where Big Dom has to pull him back. Like, Nick Sir, the head coach is arguing with the player. The other one, things you don't hear about him. The existence of Big Dom might be the reason why Nick Seriani's different than the other guys.

And don't forget that other report. I apologize, I forget if it was ESPN the athletic, which I'm sure to them is going to, whoever reported his story will kill me for that. But like, that they were issues where Nick Siriani and Jalen Hertz could necessarily be in the same.

room alone together, which is just, when do you hear that about a head coach and a quarterback? And again, that's why, and again, so I think of all the people who are, there are some Eagles fans who I think are furious with us where it's like, you know, because one, they just like to be mad, but like, oh, like, when we say, oh, Eagles have the best roster ever, and they're like, so you won't give Dailan Hertz credit? And I'm like, well, both can be true, but that's part of it where it's like, it's just, this Eagles team is not like other teams in the Super Bowl, which, D.K., you nailed a couple weeks ago of just most of the time we get here, we give the coach and the quarterback the most

credit. And you get here and you're like, any fan. Philadelphia, if you want to be honest with yourselves, the two biggest questions with this team entering the season was either Nick Siriani or Jalen Hertz, and the biggest Jalen Hertz defenders had questions about Saryani, and the biggest Sireani defenders had questions about Jalen Hertz.

But no one was rock solid on those guys entering the season, even Philly fans. We just heard it firsthand from Chris Ryan, who was on the last episode, who was like, I kind of still don't know how I feel about Nick Serian. Jailen Hurts is probably the best season in Eagles history. My God. So, yeah, it's just different.

But it's weird. Also, when you look at Mike Tomlin, when you look at John Harbaugh and Dan Campbell. And Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh isn't a different guy. I'm more than Jim than John. Me too. Hell yeah.

Okay. Anyway, I think, when I think about those guys, they feel like the adult in the room. They're the leader. I trust them. I will go to war with them. What they would think is right, I'm just going to trust that implicitly. With Siriani, I'm like, I don't know. If I was like, Nick Siriani, you need to pick my sister up at the airport at 6.

you have to be there on time. Her life depends on it. I don't know if I'm going to Nick Seriani for that. Mike Tomlin, I would trust, would be at the airport at 6 o'clock. That's a good way to put it. Anyway, we can't really make fun of him now. What?

I mean, basically what Chris was saying? What did Chris say? What was the words he used? It was like, now there's like an embargo on making fun of him or whatever. I don't know what the words he said was, but it's like. Should we overly respect, should we just want Nick Seriani future Bill Belichick? Can we briefly discuss Jalen Hertz's interview?

at Disney World? Oh my God. Did you see that? No, what did he do? I missed it. How many unread text messages do you have after winning the Super Bowl? When was the last time you were starstruck? Funniest thing a fan has ever said you'd earned a game.

What's a classic movie you've never seen? If I've never seen, I'm up close to know. Does he know he won the Super Bowl? So, honestly, he feel, I just, I don't know. Why did the first of all, why did they even publish that? I don't know why they kept the first two questions. Dude, well, here's like, so many... People might not have been able to hear that even using the clean version that Kai and Carlos are going to splice in

because, honestly, you have to read the captions because he's like, he's literally mumbling at his Super Bowl interview at Disney World. He doesn't answer the first three or four questions. Well, there's so many things going on there. One of which is, I love the last question of like they're like, he's like, I'm still processing it. Clearly, that's the least happy I've ever seen anyone at Disney World. But the other one, I think that he's even doing, he's mad that he's doing it because he's contractually obligated at the Super Bowl MVP to go. You get paid. Yeah.

So they're doing the interview of the years. band because he's been zoned by Disney. So, but like, dude, do with anything. You just got interviewed for the Super Bowl at Disney World. Like, be, be animated, be energetic. The first question was how many unread text messages do you have? And he goes, I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. When's the last time you've been Starstruck? He just didn't answer that question. I don't know why they kept that in. I honestly think the people who made this were like, fuck you, Jalen Hurts. You botched this so bad. We're going to make the first two questions the worst questions. You know, it's fun air is the video, which, you know, if you're listening, you don't

know this, but the video, they didn't get. him a real mic, they gave him the little tiny mic. Which is like very TikTok. Which is very TikTok to have a little mic. And so it's 10 times funnier that he's just like, they're like, hey, Jalen, it was the last time of you're Starstruck? And he's just holding this like little mic. He's like, I don't know.

Part of me respects the hell out of him, you know? Sometimes I kind of like when people reject Hollywood so much that they're just like, I will do my own thing, you will come to me. I will, you will tailor yourself to me and not the other way around. I think I kind of respect it. I also just read today, I don't know if this is true. It was on some, like, Wall Street Journal, real estate, something, that he lives in an apartment that costs $2,000 a month in rent, and that's all he does.

Did you know that? He's kind of like a monk. He's kind of like a football monk. He is. He was like, why do I need a big house that I would live in alone? There was this great Zach. He lives in a $2,000 a month apartment in Philly. You know what he reminds me of?

That's... He lives in Delco? Is that kind of fucking awesome or super weird or both? He reminds me of Zach Lowe for ESPN wrote a great feature on BAMETA bio. for the Miami Heat. And before the draft, Bam had this line with teams, and they were like,

what's your hobbies? And he said, I like to play basketball and take shits. Jesus. And I think that's all Jaylen Hertz does. Yeah, this all Jalen Hertz does.

I like to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I'm all out of bubble gum. I just think he might be the, he might literally be the most boring, famous athlete of all time. Do you think it's real or forced? Or is it concocted?

That, watching that particular interview makes me think it's just like that's who he is. He might be the worst hang of all time. You know why? I think D.K.'s right. I think you're right. D.K. and here's why.

When Bill Belichick gives interviews like that. And then you talk to, like, former players. He hears some interview with Westwell or Joe the gentleman. They're like, he's so funny. He cracks jokes. He's really sense of humor. He's doing it strategically because he doesn't want to give anything to the media. Right.

And then when you hear teammates talk about Jill and Hertz, like, I don't really know him. I don't really know. He's kind of done and talk to us. If he was like 15% more open, he could be considered the biggest badass in the league. Like, if he just turned it up to level two instead of zero, and kept all the other mysterious stuff about him, he'd be so cool. He's just like that.

But he doesn't give an ass. How many unread text messages do you have? I don't know. Also, that's a great question. Just make something up. I like that question. I don't think people realize. I mean, most people probably don't know what it's like to get 2,000 text messages in a day.

And like, it's pretty crazy. Most of these questions aren't good or whatever. But I actually do, my theory is that the producer of that ESPN segment was like, we're going to keep the question where he just doesn't answer. So on that way. Just stares at him. God, dude. Have you ever been starstruck?

Okay. For the record, Craig's just staring at me. So, I saw that last night. I was like, this man is the most boring interview I've ever seen in my life. On that note, we got... Are you dying, Craig? I just choked on my own saliva like my mom. Excuse me?

Your mom does that? You know, like, I feel like when you get older, you start choking on your own saliva. Oh, okay. It's a thing. My mom would just choke out of nothing. We'd just be like watching TV and she'll just start choking. What?

If your parents just choke on air, email me. No, Craig, my dad talks about this all the time. It's like something changes as you get older. You just start choking. You just start choking on your saliva all the time. All the time. I thought you were, I didn't know what you talked about. Are you serious?

Yeah, people just like just choke on saliva air. Email us at ring your fantasy football, Gmail.com. If people get older to start choking on air, if your doctor, you can explain that. No, not air. You choke on your saliva. Saliva. Yeah. Well, maybe air too.

I don't know. Email from Zeke. Zeke. Ezekiel. Eagle should be spelled like Seagull without the S. That's correct. That's kind of sick. It's correct.

E-A-G-U-L-L. I kind of like that a lot. Eagle. I have no news. Eagle! No, no. Wait. Now that makes me think, is Eagle, is Seagull and Eagle, is it like a goal?

No, Eagles are not goals. Eagles, oh, whoa. If it was, it would be wild. If it was a goal, it would be spelled G-U-L-L-O. Well, right. Yeah. But I didn't think it turned. Well, damn, goal.

What is a goal? I mean, I think it's a type of bird. It's a sea bird. But an eagle's not, well, eagles are seabirds. A goal is a long-winged web-footed seabird. Well, the Eagles are? No, Eagles are rafters. And they're not a seabird.

Wow, I just ripped that out of nowhere. They got fucking, they'll shred you. That's crazy. Shout out Jalick's Hunt, who tweeted, like, six years ago that, like, I want to be a Philadelphia Eagle because, like, they have, like, a third eyelid that, like, lets them fly through the storm while still seeing. It's like the little thing that it just, like, comes down. And he told them that in the interview, and then they drafted him, and then he, like, beat

beat the shit on his yo duty. they won the Super Bowl. So it's like a visor? Kind of, yeah. The third island, yeah, it covers them from dust. Motorcycle helmet thing that comes down? Yeah, exactly. I feel like visor suffice.

No? I got it wrong. I was thinking, no, no, no, I got it wrong. I was thinking visor like the hat, like what Andy looked like. Jaylon Hurts, first quarterback to win the Super Bowl in a visor. What? Really? Is that true?

Has to be. No. Think. What quarterback do you know that won a Super Bowl in a visor? It's not Brady Manning, Breeze, Big Ben, Rogers. Russ, no. Russ, Mahomes. Okay, you're definitely right.

That's crazy. First visor, Super Bowl win. That's interesting. Are you sure? I actually didn't remember that he wears a visor. That's a good note. He was wearing one in the game, I believe. Yeah.

I don't pay attention. All right, next question here is from Bill. Bill. DK., you have to pay attention to this one. Draft question. Teams like the bill says... He's not wearing a visor in this picture. Oh, there's one.

Okay. Maybe does he not wear it all the time? Craig, look, there's no visor here. What game is that? I don't know. Okay, you just post it. I'm just saying, does he always wear a visor? What's happening? All I know is, I'm pretty sure he was wearing one in the shoot of that.

Hold on, now I've got to find out. I'm fact checking you live, bitch. Yeah, it looks like he's wearing a visor. Look at that. Okay. I think he's wearing a visor. I think he's wearing a visor. Okay.

I'll stand down. I know you're really anti-visor. But this is ridiculous. You're making bold claims, pal. First visor quarterback. Look, you heard it here first. All right. Anyway, continue. Bill.

Actually, this is like, people are hearing this next week. So I'm sure a lot of people said that this was, he wore a visor and was the first visor quarterback. I don't know. I bet not a lot. Just ask Jalen Hertz, are you proud to be the first quarterback to wear a visor? And he just has like a whole soliloquy about how much it means. He's like, I was like, I don't know. I didn't think about it.

Was that wearing a visor? Anyway, Bill, teams like the Eagles Chiefs Niners routinely seem to get quality players, especially when they were drafting late in the first round. My theory on this is because they don't have to do anything and they're able to just simply pick the best available player that remains so late in the draft. While teams hiring the draft have to make an actual choice on players because if you're picking early, you have to decide to pick between the number one-rated player,

one, two, three, and it seems pretty easy to overthink it or simply take the number one guy because they're perceived as good process. Later in the draft, you're able to just grab Quinnian Mitchell, Brian Thomas, Tyler Linderbaum, a best player available in Olin Smith because they're just rather than just going for like the best guy to a certain position. I'm convinced Danny Hyfitz could be a good GM because you were really just sitting there, wait and grab the player who fell in the draft.

DK, what do you make of that of like players? Because when I read this first email, I'm kind of think, my first instinct on this was it is easier for good players to succeed on good teams. Right. I think that's a great point, yeah, because a lot of times landing in a right situation allows you to flourish a little bit more.

If you have guys, really good players around you, that's going to help boost you. Like T.J. Watt going 28th in the draft, he gets to play with K.M. Hayward, like George Carloftus with the Chiefs getting to play with Chris Jones. It helps. Yeah, I think that's a huge point. I think that's probably the most likely explanation for it. I think the other thing that came to mind here is when you're talking about guys that are taken really early in the first round, a lot of times it's like the most explosive athlete, the most prototypically built player, the guy with the highest upside, the guy with the most potential, you know, and teams are drafting these guys in hopes they turn into like an all pro or whatever.

And then later in the first, it's like, this guy's just going to be a starter for 10 years. And that's very valuable, of course, but like maybe doesn't have the most as much potential, but also probably not as much variance or whatever, volatility. That was kind of what came to my mind. But it's like also Tyler Linderbaum, you know, I think he just like physically speaking, he wasn't outstanding in any certain way, but just a good football player. Nolan Smith, he was an undersized guy, but again, really athletic, good football player. And so there's reasons these guys kind of drop, Quinion Mitchell, small school guy.

Brian Thomas That's an interesting one with Brian Thomas Because he was a freak athlete But maybe it's just like He was the second best receiver on his team So didn't get as much attention Yeah, I think the NFL old school NFL Was just like not an alpha

We don't know Maybe yeah But it is a very interesting thing I would say also I would love to see the stats on this Because there are a lot of misses In the late first too Yeah, that's the thing

You could also be the bills Going for Need And like oh you get Kyrie Elam A cornerback And Dalton Kikade and those were forced But then you're also the Eagles You know what? The Eagles forced

Honestly the Eagles really had a good marriage of best player available and they really needed some goddamn cornerbacks and they got traded up for Cooper DeGine and they got Quine and Mitchell so they traded up but I still keep coming back to like what's the worst business in America? We keep joking about FDX.

Like what's the worst company? Like in terms of business model not like ethically or whatever. I just just keep thinking what if the worst NBA you never heard of them because they go out of business? I don't know. That's my point.

You never heard about them because they go to business. Bad NFL teams aren't a lot of fail. They keep running. And so I keep thinking, what if the best MBA student, the best business graduate student in the world got drafted by the worst company in America and then didn't turn them around in two years? And you're like, maybe that guy sucked. Maybe that company was bad. You know what I mean? That's the thing with the teams where it's like the top.

I keep calling it the wood chipper where it's like you fed the best players to the worst organizations with the most least stability and coaches and all this stuff. And it's like the later teams, there is kind of a hit rate in the back of the first. And it's real hit or miss. But like, yeah, those teams also have good coaches. And there's bad coaches usually at the top of the draft. It's like in the basketball league I'm playing. I'm like the fourth. Basically the NFL.

I'm like the fourth best player in my team. And when I'm surrounded, when it's a game where all the best players are there, and I can just kind of like do the things I do best and that's it, I feel like I contribute so much more to the team and I'm such a better player. But when like the three best players can't make it that night and I have to be relied upon more and I got to put 20 shots, I'm inefficient as hell. I'm, you know, it doesn't work out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I actually fully, I fully subscribed to the first idea that it's like, like, yeah, it's just way easier to do what you're good at on a good team when you don't have to worry about your faults because other people can fill those gaps for you. So very similar question. Well, speaking of that, though, so we have an email here from Mattias from Paraguay. Mattias. Mattis. Mattis writes, I'm a Packers fan, and my question is, do you think the Packers should sign a veteran wide receiver who can be a reliable option for Jordan Love? And that could help with the development of this young receiver group in Greed Bay.

If your answer is yes, which receiver, would you like to send the Packers? My first thought here was like, we didn't talk about this yet. Josh Jacobs says they need a number one receiver. Super Bowl week. We have this clip here Dante Van Wix took offense to this. We have this clip here If you want through your phones on it

Because I wanted So my first thought I saw the quote Was from Josh Jacobs Did you say throw on the phones? Tots on the cans? I like that. Tarts off cans off cans on Cans on.

Cans I like that I wanted to hear that one either Craig Because I saw Josh Jacobs You've never heard headphones referred to as cans? No No I actually Before the show Craig

Craig asked me if I wanted to go tarps off for the show Let's because you're obsessed with the AC DK thought it was a little warm in here So I said let's go tarps off D.K. needed to check the AC. I was like, okay. He's like, no, I need to sit by it for the show.

And I was like, that's a good one. Because I kept going up the other day. You said it, and then, you know what, we don't have to be in the game. I'm down to go shirts and skins. I've never heard tarps off before. Since I introduced D.K. to tarps off. He's now said it six times, which I love. No, I love it.

Keep saying it. Anyway, can we play the Josh Shakers thing? Because I wanted to hear the whole, I saw it. It seems so inflammatory. I wanted to get the full explanation. Then, then obviously, we got a really young group of receivers. all can be really, really, really special. But I think personally, we need a guy that's proven

to be a number one already. So somebody that's going to, and we know it's going to be a little bit more consistent. That made me play here before? You come at the right part. So you're talking about Devante? He's talking about Devante. So the reason, so I saw just the blue sky post.

And so we're in blue, you can follow the blue sky. Cam's off, Tarts off. Cams off, Tom's on. So I saw that quote from Josh Jacobs of just, we need a number one. one receiver. Pants off, tarps on, cans off, hats on.

What is this called? What's a good slang for hat now? What are the kids calling it? Kai, what are the cool kids calling hats? Helmet? Oh, I like that. The guy just ended up? Or is that a thing?

Oh, he just came up with it? Helmets on, tarps off, cans on. I'm obsessed with this. Okay. What are you saying? I was just let me know when you're done. It's fine.

This is a bold move from Josh. Jacob's. Well, that's, I saw the blue sky pose, and we're on blue sky now if you Foss, but I saw the skeet. I saw the skeet with Josh Jacobs and I was like, what a crazy thing to say where you're like, I just saw a clip. It was like, we need a number one to see him and Green Bay. And I'm like, why would you say that? But when

I hear him say it, it sounds very different to me where he's like, the word that he, one, he sounds more earnest and it sounds more like, he saw something with the season. And I saw it more from the perspective of, no, this is a veteran player who spent the whole year at the offense and was like, we need this. Who has also played with Devante Adams

and probably watched him in the locker room, helped guys like Trey Tucker and Jacobi Myers and Brock Bowers. Because they overlap with the Raiders, not Green Bay, Josh Jacobs and Devonte. But the thing I thought, the word from that was consistency. And I think that is the hard,

I mean, young people in any profession, but in football, like the consistency of great, greatness is showing up consistently every day, which is that's really what professionalism is. And like, Devante, I think that we're like, showing up, putting the tarp on, going to work. That's when we get mad of Kyle Pitts or whatever.

Like, youth is wasted on the young. You know, Kyle Pitts, Sometimes helmet off. Sometimes helmet off, yeah. He's 60% of the snaps. His helmet should be off. His helmet should be off. Okay, that's too much.

You're saying that? Cow Pitts? Yeah. He's a great player. Do you got... Postseason, DK. is a troll. I was going to say. I always forgot about that.

So I almost... Offseason DK. It's a hundred percent. And he... Offseason DK and regular season DK would not get along. No. They would actually... No, you would not.

You two would not get about. The drugs you take in the off season just completely changing. You are, you would actually have a high-fits and me, like the way we kind of argue, you, off-season or regular season of you, would be like that too. You totally are. Your left-brain-right-been. I feel like a weight's been lifted off of me since the season ended.

You are a little loosey-goosey. You're a little loosey. We've also been on a very long trip together. You want to skip all the eight football questions I have and just go to like ice cream or whatever? No, we can talk about them. We could talk about it. Okay. Do you think the Packers need the number one receiver? Because the pattern, Matt Lafleur has said no the whole time. Matt Lefleur early in the season or in the preseason, I think. He was asked about who's the number one because it was fantasy people trying to figure it out.

and Hugh said, the idea of a number one, that just makes me want to puke or something like that. And they were like, what if you had Jamar Chase? And he was like, that would be awesome. That changes things. That's kind of sick. But I think, you know, first of all, from the Josh Jacobs point of view, he was very respectful.

He was like, I think everybody on this team has a chance to be great. It's like he's prefacing the whole thing with saying the right things. I don't know, to be honest. It clearly didn't play. I mean, Dantevin Wicks immediately quote retweeted him. Yeah, but that was based on a tweet. He can't catch a goddamn football. I know, but I'm not sure what that does to say.

Like, Josh Jacobs saying that publicly, what does that do? I don't know what you, he shouldn't have said it. And I think it's a classic. That's true. It's foot in a mouth. Like, he shouldn't. This is like the weird thing with media where I understand why players are like Jalen Hart's, to be totally honest. Because this is why, where when you actually say the truth of like, if you actually try to be respectfully

honest as Josh Jacobs here was here, it gets aggregated to Josh Jacobs's needed number one. And then his own receivers are mad within 20 minutes of him saying it. And I'm like, yeah, no one of players like, Jaylett Hertz, just like, you know. All right, there's a gray area, though. But the funny thing about this is, somewhere between school. You talk about, like, young players not being consistent. Josh Jacobs is a veteran. He should know that this is like a young person thing to say.

Yeah, it is, it is like a rookie. You would expect, like, Jimere Gibson says. It's like, this is a George Pickens' thing to say when he, like, who was the starting quarterback. Remember when Jordan Mason ran for, like, he had 30 carries in like week one when Christian McAfrey didn't play and he gave the post game interview. And they like, what did you know, you played? He was like, Friday.

Poor guy. Tell what they told him. It's the best day of my life. And then he went to the post-game presser, and cleared it screamed at by Kyle Shanahan, and he went to the post-compressor, like, crying. Jordan Mason was, like, so distraught. On the best day of his, the best weekend of his whole life,

he was just like, I'm so sorry to my teammates. I'm like, dude, they won't because of you. But that's the thing is, you don't know what you don't know. And, yeah, it's weird that he said it. But I do think they, I mean, if you look at Dobbs, if you look at Dobbs and Reed and Watson and Wicks, they all are kind of guys who do, like, two out of the four things, but not four out of the four things.

Jayden's almost like a, Debo in a way where... And he also only plays on three receiver sets for the most part. Exactly. And they need...

Watson can't stay healthy. He's a deep threat guy. Don't even... He cannot catch. Don't Taylor Wicks is a body catcher. I think Dodd is like probably not explosive enough to be a number one. He's a good number two. Yeah.

And you know what's so funny about this? This is the exact opposite problem for the entire tenure that the Green Bay Packers had with Aaron Rogers. The entire time with Aaron Rogers, they had a number one. They had a number one and like six guys that would be a number five.

Like it was just, was just like Aaron Rogers and a bunch of Jake Coomrose and Geronimo Allison's. Wow, this is James Jones erasure. Yeah, with James Jones. Sure. But like, Rogers loved him. I know, it was ones and fives. And now the Packers just have all twos and threes with no one.

But none of them are good. None of them are bad enough to like not play. What was Jordy Nelson? Was he not number one? No, but yeah, definitely. Jordy. That was with James Jones. But he was peak before Devante was good.

And then by the time Devante was good, Jordy was washed. What was the overlap? Greg Jennings, Jordy. It started Donald Driver and Greg Jennings was the young gun and then Greg Jennings got old and Jordy was young and then Greg Jennings left for the Vikings and hated Aaron Rogers

and Jordy was good and then Jordy and Devante was young and James Jones was somewhere in that range and Scott ran out of town because he was bad his first two years. That's the other thing he couldn't catch too so like you know there's hope still maybe Wix is right anyway all that's to say in terms of Natice's his other question of like who's it could be

they're not going to do it Green Bay has been a very successful organization not taking receivers very high not doing this like if T. Higgins was a free agent he should go to Greenback. Like, they're not going to do it. They would never sign, he's not going to be a free agent, but the Green Bay Packers have never paid $30 million for receiver. Because, again, I think all the receivers on their team

are going to be paid less money per year than Justin Jefferson. Like, they're combined. They're less than Justin Jefferson is. Like, every receiver on the Packers and the tight ends too. So I don't think they're going to add any one of such as. I don't think they need to. They have four good young receivers and, like, betting on them growing and getting better with Jordan Love,

I think next year they're all going to be better. All the receivers we just named, all the great Packers receivers, none of them are first-friend picks. Like, they're not going to go get a big guy. Devonka Adams was not good for two or three seasons. No, the first season he was, Packers fans didn't like him. He was panned in, like, online fantasy circles.

People didn't, all of his underlying metrics. People hated him. Texas fans, like, wanted him to get cut. Yeah. But it's, you know who else wasn't, like, special early? Travis Kelsey. And I think it's interesting, those are the mind-meld guys, right? Like, there's a stability with your quarterback.

Like, IQ, you don't talk, we talk, we taught mind-melt. What it means is fucking IQ in the same page of your quarterback. That's what the same page means. Yeah. And also, I mean, Free agent receivers, it's very hit or miss if they end up being good on their next team. So over the last few years, there's been a lot of high profile hits. Terry Kill, Stefan Diggs.

DeAndre was good on the Cardinals. But before that, it was like very hit or miss. All right, this one's from Ben. Benjamin. Benny. I'm a Vikings fan. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when it comes to resigning Sam Donald because I actually want to resign Sam Donald to the Vikings. My case is basically J.G. McCarthy might be good, but it's completely improving.

We do have a talented roster, but on offense, it's not a juggernaut. Our guards suck. Garrett Bradbury has somehow retained the center position for six years, but he's not that good. Donald had 35 touchdowns, 12 picks, 4,300 yards, completed intuitive every three passes. They won 14 games, even though they lost Christian Derisaw at left tackle in week five or six. And I understand that Darnel crapped the bet in the last two games. I do think there's an argument that Rams, it was also kind of on Kevin O'Connell that game. But basically his point is, if we can sign Darnold for like two years and right around 40 million a year,

and you spend that over on the quarterback position, like, is that actually that bad to just, to just maintain you of Donald and McCarthy? Is that such a crime? I think I generally agree with this. I actually just think they should probably tag Sam Donald and just bring it back for one year. What's the tag? Tag is 40 million,

but the problem is you have to do the 40 million up front with your cap. Whereas when you sign, because the NFL is crazy, if you sign like, let's say like, what was a quarterback company? Well, not Barack Party. But they say it's just Justin Herbert to a contract.

You actually, the cap number goes down in year one and you backload the money. So it creates cap space when you get an extension, which is illogical. but tagging because it's all in year one, it's just 40 million dead big money. Whereas if you sign Sam Donald, like to a three-year deal,

it'd be like 10 million this year. What if it was what Ben said? It's a two-year deal, 40 million a year. He would have to be three just because he could get it. But like a three-year-a-old-a-old-a-little more. So you'd be like three-year-for-one-10 or something. And like...

So for reference, the Vikings, according to over-the-cap, have 55 million-ish in effective cap space. And so that, yeah. So it probably does make sense more, it makes more sense to not tag him to sign him. into a deal. But then that pushes your development arc for J.J. McCarthy back very far. And you can't use that money to sign like a guard. And I think the other argument is looking at actually the Eagles between these two Super Bowls where they won the Super Bowl with Carson Wenton. Nick Foles

won the goddamn game, right? And then they get, they lose Foles and guess what? And again, they trade them to the Bears and they get another Jalen Hertz. And again, it's not, you don't always know how it's going to go. Right. I think there's a humility to the Eagles like having hurts and I don't know, something about having a quarterback. Because I, I Look, I'm talking about it both sides of my mouth because part of me thinks the lesson from all this is to pay Daniel Jones $10 million and have him be the next Donald. But the flip side is,

you need to get J.G. McCarthy every single rep for Minnesota. Every rep needs to go to him. There's something to be said for just treating quarterback as the most important position and having Donald, who he doesn't need any damn snaps next year to step in and you think you can win every game with him. So I don't know. You're saying you sign Donald but start McCarthy?

I don't think I would have the hoods. I don't think I would sign Donald, but if the Vikings do, I'm fine with it. I think that's where I would sign him in startup. I think it'd be weird to give him $10. No, you got to start playing McCarthy because you've got to know what's up with McCarthy. He hasn't got any reps.

He's going to be Trey Lance. I don't know. I mean, Jordan Love didn't play for how many years. Part of me is like he had some weird knee injury. He had complications. He had to get like a second surgery. I don't know. Let him sit another year.

Let him like develop. I'm fine with that. But like the difference is Rogers was a hall of famer who sat behind a hallfamer and then like Jordan, you know what I mean? It's a little different to Darnold. But no, I agree. Look, the Falcons thing, the Falcons panic Kirk Cousins thing was crazy to me, because why would you give $100 million to a 35-Rild coming off in Achilles?

If Kirk Cousins was 26 when they did that or whatever, if Kirk Cousins was Darnold, like, I get doing Darnold. I don't think I would do it, but I don't give him $100 million and be like he's not our starter. That's just fucking weird. It is really weird. And that's also the problem is like the other thing that don't talk about is it's still like any other workplace? The players are like, well, he's making the money. He's supposed to play.

I think if I could, you try to thread the needle with Minnesota, where you basically give him the shortest deal, the least amount of money possible, but bring Donald back, start him, develop JJ McCarthy. That way if something happens to Donald, either he gets hurt or he just flames out, McCarthy can step in. I think that's probably the safest move. Because if they get rid of Donald, let him walk, and JJ sucks. Or gets hurt again. Or gets hurt again.

Things are really dicey quickly. And that's where I think. And then you're missing your window completely. Yeah, because it seems good now. And that's fair too. I think actually that's also, Craig, I think that's the best argument where basically what if McCarthy sucks and you let Donald go and you won 14 games? and you're like, damn, I kind of miss having that 14 wins season. And it's honestly probably best case scenario for the Vikings that Donald sucked in those last two games.

Because now... Oh, yeah, that's going to save him so much money. They're going to save him so much money and just general interest from other teams around the league. You could have tagged and traded him, though. I still don't know. I really don't have a gauge for his market. We'll see. Question from Nick.

If you were all to do a group Halloween costume... Nicky. Nick. If you had to pick a group Halloween costume that one of you would enjoy but the other two would hate, what would you pick? What do you got? Well, I was just... I think we would enjoy it, but I kind of want to make do Spunny.

where it's like, I'm SpongeBob, you're Patrick, or you're SpongeBob on Patrick and your Squidward, and you wouldn't get it? I think somebody's, yeah. I don't know. Are you Patrick? I'm SpongeBob or I'm probably, I don't know. I think I have shades of both.

No, you're probably SpongeBob, I would say. Who are you? Are you Sandy? Somebody told me that I look like Squidward and I kind of see it. That's the one that you're not bothered by. It's not a huge compliment necessarily. But I get it. It's like, you know, those, like, drawings that you do at, like, a fair or Disneyland that are, like, super, like, caricatures.

Yeah, characters. I'm like, I can see it. He's bald. He's got a big nose. Squidward would sit by the thermostat and adjust it throughout the entire recording. Yeah. Patrick is tarps off. Patrick's tarps off.

Patrick's big tarps off. Patrick is the starfish? Christ. What? Let's move on. Yes. Christ. What are you doing on Halloween?

What are you saying? I've seen it. The fact that you had to ask is, honestly, insulting. Do you have a costume? Do you have a costume? The three of us? That's a good question. Wow. I wish I'd given this before.

You can think on it. No, wait. This is good. The one that I've actually done with a couple of my buddies before is Forrest Gumped through the ages. Oh, that's good. Which one of us would be the maddest about that? That's just a funny costume. You put me in some leg braces?

I think. Bam, a football kick returner. So we were the, one of us was the one he went running. Who's the one to us to listen to his mom and? have sex. I don't want to be that for us. I was the shrimp boat captain Gump, which is good. One of my other buddies was just like the guy sitting on the bench, you know,

with the chocolates. And another one was running. Like, I went, I felt like running. You know what? I felt like running. I just felt like running. You know who he should be is the Hanson brothers? Oh, that's good. I would make me mad too. Okay. Is there one Hanson brother that's kind of like... The older one, I think. The fourth Jonas?

The older one didn't get as much attention Yeah, that's fair Who would be Like, D.Ks that guy? Hey. That's tough. He's the oldest. That's tough.

Or maybe that's me because he's the tallest. That's like a picture of when they were like A flex. Really young. Damn. Well, that's when they were famous. I didn't realize there was like actual child

within their midst. Yeah. They were like nine. That's ridiculous. That's what I was trying to say. Okay. This one's from. Russell.

Russie. Could someone please provide a credible path for how the Saints escape from salary cap hell? The season hasn't started. The Saints are some of $50 million of the cap lead the league in dead money. I understand pushing on your chips,

blah, blah, blah, blah. I would like to hear how they emerge from this disaster without a bunch of hand waving and saying, eh, it's complicated. It might be good for us to actually understand how the salary cap works. Stop trying to compete. Yeah.

I mean, honestly, that's the only way. Tank. You have to just tank. Yeah. I think the... You can't, you can't. cannot thread this needle. Like, you have to cut your good players that are making too much money or whatever and just

eat the cap hit and then continue and build up the ability to, you know, have a normal cap like two years down the line. Because they've been doing this forever. They're trying to compete and, you know, push all these contracts into the future. At some point, you think, do to catch up with them. Burn the house down for the insurance money. Local, well, honestly, if there was any other business, that was what they would do. They would just like, take the money of the business, declare bankrupt.

leave, like take, you know, just, you know, get new names. But that is, I guess the simplest way to think about the same, like to explain the Saints is like the NFL and the NBA both have a salary cap. But the difference is the NBA contracts are guaranteed. So an NBA team hits the salary cap, there's nothing you can do. When the NFL team hits the salary cap, you just fire players because the contracts are fake. Players are basically at will in the NFL. So you just, there's stuff you can do.

It's the NBA. It's like, oh, well, it's to acquire an expiring contract and wait. And it's like, that's real salary cap issues in the NBA. The Saints have created an NBA salary cap situation in the NFL where because they have borrowed from all their players, like credit cards, you know, The Onion, local man outsmarts bank by paying credit card with other credit card. Like the Saints were like... Outsmarts.

Local team outsmarts NFL salary cap by just borrowing from players. And so what the Saints have done, they don't have any players to bar. They don't have any at-will employees left. They've all created real contracts. Every player left is real because they all those guys, They've captured these contracts so much. They alter the... Every team does this with two or three or four guys, whatever.

The Saints did it with every non-rokey deal on their entire roster. They didn't have to taste some hill like six times it feels like. So they're an NBA team now where every contract can't get touched. They've almost like guaranteed deals. And so you're like either wait it out or double down, open more credit cards. And that's what they've done for like 10 years. That's why you've been hearing about this are so long. And now they're at the point where there's there out of option.

There's nobody left. And so that's the thing is like, what's the difference? any NFL team can fix their salary cap situation if they want to in one season. The Saints have to wait at least two. It's like two full years of lying fallow, not really adding players. And so that's why they don't want to, you know, like a field. Fallow land. Fallow land.

But that's it. They need two fallow seasons at least to get through this, which is humbling. Yeah. It just feels like the check has finally come due or whatever, you know. Like they're in collections at this point. Because like for a very long time, anytime anyone said anything about their Saints cap, all the Saints fans would come back at you and be like,

they know what they're doing, they've been doing this forever, whatever. And it did work for a while, but like this is the result of all that. Like a lot of things in New Orleans, sometimes, you know, it's like two in the morning, you're like, should we call it? I'm gonna live forever.

Should we call it? Four in the morning. No, let's call it. Not out of the Crabs table. Oh. Best thing is, you know, the Saints are just like, I'm never going to die.

They really do embody Bourbon Street. We're like, yeah, go to bed. I do think we said a couple times that night If the crap stay with that, we're never going to die. No. Once we hit our second, big ones. We're never going to die. Yeah.

Give me one of them big ones. Give me one of them. All right, this email's from David. Dave. DKIS for you. I was wondering why certain quarterbacks get overlooked when it comes to draft prospects. Is it because they're smaller schools, like maybe their behavior in the field? Someone like Cam Miller from North Dakota State has killer stats this year,

but outside of ClickBady YouTube stuff, nobody's really talking about them. Yeah. I mean, it could be any number of reasons. Obviously, smaller school. You're just not going to get as much attention. You don't have as good of opponents. Especially now that if it used to be a smaller school, they'd be like, now what's your story of it? Now if you're smaller school, it's like, so why didn't you transfer to a bigger school?

I mean, to be honest, this is not just in sports. I don't know. It's like it. Just brands. Yeah. Like if you go to a top five law school, the best law firms are going to look at you. Yeah. And if you go to a random law school, even if you get great, even if you pass the bar with flying colors and you get great grades, it's still going to be hard to get the job at the top law firm.

That's just like how it works. And you can eventually work your way there, but it's not like you will immediately just like people start there and then fan out. Yeah, if you go to USC film school, it's different than going to Iowa film school. It's just different. And I think like... Do they have a good film program? I'm guessing no, but maybe. I think fish eye camera, hawkye camera? Yeah, sure.

But the third eyelid, put it over the eye. Eagle eye camera. Shit. Hawkeye. Eagle eye. Hawkeye. Fish eye. I said that earlier, but you weren't listening to me. The other thing is

Cam Miller listed at 6-1-212. I think some of the reasons that you see guys like Josh Allen, Carson Wentz, get a lot of attention. Those are the first two names you want? Oh, smaller school, sorry. Is North Dakota State D-1? I thought you were just listing like

great players. I was listening white guys. I was like, you're just listening great quarterbacks? Is North Dakota State D-1? No, they're like the FCS dominant. They like win the national championship like every year. I think they've been involved in like a ridiculous number of FCC championships.

Yeah. But the point is, what I was going to say, both both Wentz and Josh Allen, who went to Wyoming. Yeah. I mean, just physically, 6-5, 2.30, and huge arm, and, like, the traits that these scouts are looking for, you know, Cam Miller, maybe he has a good arm, but he's 6-1. Also, again, Wyoming is like a D1 Mountain West,

which is like, I mean, Jordan Love, Nevada. It's like, those are still schools in, like, real. And they play real teams. Yeah, I mean, they're playing, like, Boise State in, like, San Diego State. I don't know. Shots out Aztex. of course you had to say San Diego State. Well, Matt Arisa.

Marshall Fulke. Rashad Penny. God, what could have been? Kind of ends there. Kevin O'Connell, quarterback of San Diego State. Really? Yeah. John Madden.

What did you just say? Sean Madden? John Madden? John Madden coached at San Diego State? Look it up. Read above. I fucking will. Calling you on this.

Fuck, I think he did. Wow. Yeah. Defense coordinator. 1964. Don Correale, who like invented the passing offense was a coach at San Diego State. It all comes back to the ass.

I wrote an article about it. What are you guys? We're all right. We just got a new coach. Sean Lewis, former O.C. with Dion. They didn't get along.

He came to San Diego State building the program. All right. Cool. Didn't Josh Johnson play for San Diego State? Yeah. I think he did. One of the all-time greats.

No, he just played at San Diego, not State. No, he was just at Hardball, right? Yeah. He was at SD. He just played San Diego with Harbaugh. Yeah, yeah. U.S. My bad, my bad.

San Diego. He played for San Diego. Yeah, there are three San Diego schools, so it's kind of confusing. Okay. What's the third? There's UCSD, STSU, and USDA. Okay, that's confusing. Just say the names.

UC San Diego. Oh, Mr. pronounced int out loud, like an intersection. University of San Diego. I just heard a bunch of letters. Private school. UC San Diego, which is the UC program, my dad went there.

And then San Diego State. Shouts. Okay. Kai is literally tuning out. I see his eyes glazing over like the third eagle eye. Oh, if it's not TCU, he doesn't. he doesn't listen. Go frobs.

You beat him to it. Who's the best TCU football player of all time? Lidney and Tomlinson. Oh yeah, fuck. That's good. Max W. Who's the top? Who's better?

Marshall Falk or L.T. L.T. It should be LT, but Marshall Falk won two Super Bowls. So it's... I'd take Tomlinson. Tomlinson, I actually think, is the best football player of my childhood that has, like, no cultural imprint. He was saying.

He was by far the coolest player when I was growing up. Yeah, because he had his jersey. He was the first, he had visor, the lightning bowl. He set the touchdown record. Then he like, yes, those touchdowns ever in his season, which is a record that's disappeared. Like, no one has 31 touchdowns in a season. Literally, he's the last player that if you took him in fantasy football, it's like,

you took him first. You just won. Like, if you got the first pick, you just won because you had the day. For my money, he is still the greatest fantasy football player of my lifetime. Literally, it's, he 100% is. And what's crazy is he doesn't get talked about. No one compares him in the gym. draft. He never gets talked about. He doesn't do interviews.

And it's like, no one's like, remember Lidney Thompson. I know. Sanders. I mean, I remember. I remember him. But he doesn't come up. It's like Walter Payton, man of the year comes up all the time. And like, people have compared Gentie to or, no, not Jentee, but like people compare Jentee to Sanders. People have compared Jentee to Tomlinson. There you go. So Barry Sanders just had the Amazon doc. It's like, like, I feel like I hear about Matt Forte.

More than I hear about LaDadian Dominson. I know. He really doesn't. That's a good point. He doesn't get up enough. It's because he played for the Chargers. Yeah. I know. I know, but even that they almost, yeah. Well, they also should have made some super... Honestly, the Super Bowl's not being made. It's the problem. People were upset with us, I think, when we didn't mention Lidane and Tomlinson's Super... His touchdown celebration is one of the most iconic.

That was sick. He also did it all the time. It was just like... There were 30-1 in one season. Like, you see it that much. He was sick. He also would throw the touchdown. He would also throw a touchdown or two.

2006, 1800 yards, 28-hundred yards, 500-reasing yards, three touchdowns. Oh, my God. And also, wait. Scroll-out, scroll-out. He threw one, too, didn't he? He threw one this season. Did he throw one? Let me see.

In 06 he threw two. Dude. It's unbelievable. He threw, yeah. Talk about unbreakable records. What's that saying? A 31, including passing 34 touchdowns for running back in the year. He threw seven touchdowns in his career.

Yeah. So anyway, yeah. Decent player. He never comes up. Decent, yeah. Okay. I just think he doesn't come up in your guys' generation. My generation.

When was the last time people talked about? No, I think our generation is the only generation we're obsessed with him. We came up and he was like the first cool guy. Yeah, he was huge. I was 12. I don't know. I feel like people talk about him still, but maybe it's just... I think that you're doing the thing where you remember something,

and I'm like, when you were saying, you're like, oh, it was 2016. What? Because I feel like, you know, you lose... Sometimes you lose track of time when you have a kid, and I feel like, I was five years ago. I drift. Yeah. Dude, they were 14 and 2 that year.

He's like... They were 14 and 2 that year. They should, you know, an epic collapse. Philip Rivers, Antonio Gates. The George... That wasn't when he... screwed up the the QB Neal,

right? Didn't Rivers fuck up a QB Neal? No, well, the worst, the worst, I'm sorry, if you're a Chargers fan

who's like really happy about this conversation. They lost for the pass by three in the division. Why are we bringing? Earmuffs for the Chargers. The worst football ending I've ever seen in the NFL,

one of the, the one that started all the charging losses, like was the Marlon McCree game where they picked off the Tom Brady in the playoffs. I think it was the division around. And Marlon McCree intercepted Tom Brady and then when everyone's like,

go down, he didn't go down. He didn't go down. And Troy Brown, who was the receiver in the play who played cornerback punched the ball out and they got the ball back and the Patriots won the Super Bowl

and the whole thing should have been different. That was 06? I don't remember what year was. Probably 03. I mean, I guess we could look it out, but anyway, what were we talking with? Philiburgers fumbled the snapball kneeling

on Monday Night Football in 2011. I still remember that. I wrote a whole article about charging. I wrote a whole article about charging. I categoried every sad charge is lost since the Marley McPenames is 20 years and it's actually preposterous how many times

I think I got to 30 and I stopped It's crazy how many of those happened I just remember every year people are picking the Chargers to win the Super Bowl and it's just They have so much talent and then they just Fuck it up Do you think? I kind of just did that on through the ringer

Do you think that play? They're 30 to 1 to win the Super Bowl That was during a January 14th 2007 playoff the game first the Pats That was that year Yeah The Pats didn't win the Super Bowl that year Oh so I guess the Colts did yeah

I don't remember that For regardless the charges are the best team But anyway Damn what were we talking about LT came up because We should probably move on. TCU. Why do we get this?

Because Kai wasn't listening to you. You talk about SDIU. Small schools. We talked about how Wyoming and Nevada are like in a legitimate conference compared to a FCS school. Moving on. The bottom line is traits.

I feel like David's going to be unhappy with that answer that we were just like, eh, small and we went to North Dakota State. Right. Email. Alex. That's a good question. From Alex.

Alex. Alex. My mom is adamant that back. in the 60s, she and her cousin invented the chipwich and they should be millionaires. But no one's made money off the chip witch. Ice cream between two cookies. Oh, I didn't know that.

Like a chip witch. What do you mean you didn't know that? I didn't know that's what a chip witch was. In my head, I was thinking about when you put potato chips and a sandwich. I thought that was a chipwich. Oh, I see what you're saying. No, it's a chocolate cookie sandwich. Like cookies and ice cream in the middle. Like a chip witch. This looks pretty good. You never had a chip wish? I mean this looks pretty good

I've never had one but I didn't know they're called Chipwich I don't know if I've ever had the trademark Chipwich Don't you think potato chip in a regular sandwich Oh yeah it's great Yeah the crunch Pro move They should call this something else

You say Alex's mom didn't know what she was doing with the brand She's terrible Well did she come up with the concept or the word She came up with putting ice cream between cookies allegedly See that's I'm willing to get behind that Chipwich terrible name Ice cream sandwich is I feel like what people call it But I guess that's usually with like the, well, that's with the, what is that material?

The softer cookie. The chocolate cookie exterior of an ice cream sandwich. I've never seen it in any other context. I don't know what it's made of. It's honestly like a soggy Oreo. It's like, I don't know what that substance is. And I don't like it. It's like a chocolate cake kind of material.

I don't like it. It's like brown. Maybe not brownie, cakey material. It's just odd. It feels like like half packaging. You're trying to tell me that you guys don't like ice cream sandwiches? I do. But honestly, I just want the vanilla.

To be honest, they're a little too, they're too big. Like, it's just like, I just had dinner. I can't have a whole fucking... Well, they have little ones. It's a cookie ice cream sandwich, yeah. You know what I love is the mini It's It's? Those are the best. It's It's are so good.

Oh, dude, email service football at e-mail.com, your favorite Trader Joe's items. You know, It's It's? They're old. San Francisco-based company. It's two cookies with ice cream surrounded by chocolate. This is all good things.

It's mint ice cream often. Oh, that's not my favorite. Well, you can get it with vanilla. Oh, it looks like a Malamar made of ice cream. It's really, really good. It's been around for, forever in San Francisco. It's it. That's pretty sick.

And it's oatmeal cookies, not chocolate chip. Oh, that's a big touch. It's textually. They're very good. And then they have chocolate on the outside? It's two oatmeal cookies with ice cream in the middle, surrounded by chocolate. They're fucking awesome. That sounds really good. Yeah.

Free ad, it's it. Yeah. Okay, we got an email here from Sean, who is the commissioner of a work fantasy league where he's the commissioner, the old commissioner, it's a work league. Old commissioner made it 12 years ago. and you get three points for a field goal and then you get 0.2 points for every yard distance of the field goal which means

a 52 yard field goals worth 13 and a half points. Oh, wow. Damn. And so Chris Boswell was the top square in place. They didn't use inflation or something. Chris Boswell was literally a... So the first round is just all kickers? Yeah, so he wants to change it and everyone's getting a revolt

because they've been in his league for 12 years. Actually, why would the first round be all kickers? I feel like you could probably still wait till like the third... Well, he said... You could take the six-off was Chris Boswell. It's probably similar, right? But adding Chris Boswell, one of the... the league.

Yeah, that's crazy. So it's like, but anyway, the point is he wants to change it, and everyone's like, why? And he feels crazy. Because picking kickers early is dumb. Well, yeah, but like, to me, this whole league is done it for 12 years. Yeah, I think you can't keep it. The whole league is clearly on this bit. I think it's a good bit.

Yeah, it's pretty funny. I mean, if everyone wants to keep it, don't change it. Yeah. Simple. I mean, they didn't do it for a sane reason to begin with. They probably were all like, this is hilarious. They just made it a long time. They just made it.

I think back then, well, kick, maybe, well, kickers are still good back then, but not quite as good. 50-yard field wells are up precipitously. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. All right. This email's from Jim. James. My dickhead friend was the best man

at this Bachelor party and it was his job to book because the Airbnb because we asked your Airbnb and make the necessary arrangements and we got to this place it was pretty nice. It was half of this massive duplex

with a big backyard. We were happy with it. But like many bachelor parties a little cramped. A couple guys on the couch, couple dudes sharing beds. It was pretty cramped, especially when we were all drunk

or hungover. Whatever. the party is what it is. On the last morning, we were absolutely dragging ass. Moral was low. We have a deadline of 10 a.m. to get to the place cleaned up

before the... Moral. By the way, can I just say, hotels do 11 a.m.? Why the fuck do Airbnb's do 10? 10 is ridiculous and inhumane. Airbnbs feel like they can do whatever the fuck. Getting up and packing your shit

a bunch of dudes and getting out before 10 a.m. It's ridiculous. So we have the deadline of 10 a.m. to get the place clean before the cleaning crew shows up. Of course the cleaning crew shows up at 10 a.m. on the dot. Damn, that never happens. So we let them in and they're like, what about the other half?

We're like, what do you fuck do you mean the other half? No way. Oh, they had both sides? Turns out my friend who again, massive dickhead had completely forgotten that he'd booked

to be clear, massive dickhead. He completely forgotten that he'd booked and charged us for the entire duplex with literally more beds than people who were at the party. That's hilarious.

Still to this day, he claims it was not his fault yet we are fully committed to never, ever, ever letting him live this down. Fuck that guy. Wow. That's hilarious.

I maintain that more often than not I'm disappointed by an Airbnb. So this story is about me. You're the dickhead? Yeah, no. No way. I did this.

I was the best man. Of course. The stories about me. Wait, so with that in mind, was our Airbnb in New Orleans? Was our Airbnb in New Orleans? No, no, no. Jim is my friend Jackson. I changed his name because you met him.

Oh, we just met him last night. Yeah, no, he's mad at me. He's really mad at me about this. Did you guys talk about this at dinner? Yeah, he's really mad at me. Wow. Classic hyphitz. All right.

my defense. You booked it so far in advance that I kind of forgot the details. I booked it like five months in advance. Can you just look at at your booking? Yes, but it's a duplex so everything's identical. So when you look around, I'm like, well, all the rooms are here, you know what I mean? Like, it's like, it's identical carbon copy of the other one mirror image. So like, it looked exactly

like what we saw. Dudes are sharing beds and stuff. You just had. Did you get like, but you know how because you were the best man, did you get a room to yourself? No. That would have made it really funny. And it's like, but you know how like it's sleep, we just had the groomed it. But you know how Airbnb's are. It sleeps 14 and you're like, okay, 14 people sleeping. Sometimes you get a share bed.

Like, that's how they count the numbers. Like, I don't remember. Well, wait. So it said, how many people were with you? 14? Yeah. Sorry like that. And it said 14 beds, but you only counted seven? But you know how they count sleep 14. Sometimes that means 14. But they don't just say sleep 14.

They tell you how many beds. Clearly, they didn't read it that closely. Hifitz just booked a four-bed Airbnb in New Orleans. That was one room. That was great. That was not on Hyphids. Super Bowl weekend. And also, they did you look at the...

I did look at the listing. They bamboozled him. Yeah, I got boozled. I got boozled. I got bamboozled. Or maybe just didn't even say bedrooms at all. It just said four beds, you assume. No one would ever in their right mind assume four beds in one room.

The pictures were a little misleading. I was bamboozled, let us stray. Run amok. Yeah. All right, all right. Also, wouldn't the title of the listing say like double duplex, both sides, full duplex or something? Did you book both sides like separately? No.

No. That would have, that would have kept. No, that would have been. Was there a door that connected to duplexes? Did anyone try to open that thing? The backyards and front yards and do doors. What did people do when they find out, found out? They're like, man, those people across the way are pretty quiet.

I was at the airport ahead of them, and then my flight, so I thought the pitchforks came out for me. And I was like, thank God. Then my airport got, my airplane got delayed. So then they showed up. I've never actually had a group. Literally trying to get out of Dodge. I've never had a group of people angrier than. Like, DeBangles and Joe Burrow could show up.

I'd be like, heard you talk about my wrist. I wouldn't be fraction as scary as I was to see those guys. Breaking news, Adam Schifter. back, Dak Prescott says he believes Dallas is very close to its own championship. Okay. That is not breaking news. That's not breaking news. That is incredible timing. I have an email here from the Cowboys. I have a bone to pick with you.

This hob comment is from somebody named Goose Skywalker, and he wrote, me when I lie. So wait, that actually goes right in. We have an email here from Beshoi, and they wrote, pronounce it however you want, you're probably getting it close enough. So I'm going to go with Beshoi. Okay. Beshoi.

Okay, yeah, Besshoi. Bessoy. I'm going to go with Bishoy. Bishoy. So Bishore writes, we need to start talking about the Cowboys like we talk about the Browns or the pre-Dan Campbell Lions. They are horribly in that franchise. I'm a 32-year-old man, so granted, I was technically alive, albeit a toddler when the Cowboys were good and actually achieved anything.

But since I've actually started actively watching football, all this team has done is disappointing in tremendous fashion. They've had a good few regular seasons, sure. Three-year stets to 12 and five in a row is cool. but even as they were blowing up the Giants, 40 to 0 and 49 to 17 and 2020. You didn't have to include the scores. That's just harsh. But, but Shroy says, I felt no joy during these blowouts. I just sat there going, none of this matters.

The Cowboys will lose embarrassingly in the playoffs, and I'm always right. The only coaches I've seen run this team are Wade Phillips, Jason Garrett, Mike McCarthy, and now Brian Schottenheimer. None of that has inspired confidence. They're in a division with maybe the best front office in the league with the Eagles, maybe the best rookie quarterback of all time in Jaden Daniels. This team is so fucked for so long, but don't worry. We're all in. Healthy Dak Prescott's going to put up Pro Bowl numbers against the worst teams in the league next year.

Keep this team mediocre for another few seasons. And if we do somehow stiff a wildcard berth, we'll be out-coached by any number of Hall-Fame coaches in the NFC while Jerry Jones is looking for the mood and the sun. The Cowboys are one of those technologically advanced fancy toilets, expensive, looks pretty, sounds cool. At the end of the day, just full of shit. By the way, we have to figure out when Jerry thinks. he's going to find out what the son's going to do. I have one of that. I have that too.

Don't worry. I have that covered. Can I read this quote? I'm reading in this article on the span about DAC. He says, I feel like we've competed with the Eagles and beat them for the most part

when we've played them. I don't want to say, I don't want to say check the record when the other guy's holding the trophy, right? So credit to them. They've earned it. And they deserve it by all means. But yeah, we're very close.

He's saying scoreboard? Two days after they won the Super Bowl? That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. But we're actually been better. He said this at a children's cancer fun gala He's like, yeah, we're better in the Eagles.

That's actually incredible. Also, they lost to the Eagles twice this year, just for the right meeting them. He said especially even watching the NFC championship and those two teams, teams that we battle against each other every year a couple times. He's like, we're also in the NFC, so I guess if they're close, we're close.

But doesn't it make you feel better as a Cowboys fan that Jerry Jones gets to work with his kids? Yeah. I mean, it's just hard. It gets to show to work every day and just, yeah. At least you have that, Cowboys fans. Knowing that Jerry can have breakfast in his office with his sons every day. Yeah, knowing that Jerry Jones gets to spend time with his kids.

This is a good segue to an email from Alex. Alex. Alex. Oh, that's not true. We already had to Alex. Connor. Connor. Conbon.

Connor is from the Netherlands. Nice. Connor says, stumbled across a wild piece of technology today. Maybe you can pass this along to Jerry Jones. you can plug in an exact address and see where the shadows and sun will be at any given entire time.

So actually, I don't know if we could do this video. How many years in advance though? Oh, whenever, like 2100. It's actually one AT&T way. He sold the address. This country's cooked. Imagine how pissed Jerry's going to be

when he sees this website. So, he's been bamboozled. Do you think if we send him so we actually can know where the sun's going to be a really long way in advance? But boom. So did the Cowboys

owned the street the stadium was on and they're able to sell the name of the street? Well, so this happened, every facility has this. It's always like one Lombardi way, the charge, like one winning drive, one charges drive, like they always name their own street. Right. I don't, I am not aware of another team

that has sold that to a sponsor. That's iconic. In a bad way. Derogatory. For those of you listening right now, whatever street I live on, I'm happy to sell it out to whoever. The highest bidder.

Poppy drives. I've been thinking about this more... Oreo Avenue. I've been thinking this more about, like, airports and I'm, like, shocked that airports don't have sponsors. I mean, you go to L-A-X and it's not like CAA.

Why isn't it just like Coca-Cola Airlines? I mean, I think it might be... It's a giant flying advertisers. It used to be at Hooters Airlines. What? Yeah. You rode that, didn't you, you sick, son of a bitch. I think it was before my time.

You motorboat and son of a bitch. Is it a pleasure to be... Is she in the house? That's the best line. Where is she in the house? Is she in the house? Makes no sense. Hold on.

I just Googled Hooters. That doesn't, that's not what I want. Hooters Air lines. Please. That's a Freudian. Hooters Air. Hooters Air. We'll see here.

It was from 2003 to 2006. What a time in American culture when they were like, yeah, this is a good idea. So it was just the way the stewardesses at the time is probably what they were calling them. We're just Hooters workers? I mean, I assume so, yes. Right. Is that the whole bit? It's just that's it.

Are they serving wings, do you think? Probably. Yeah. Let me see. I kind of think this could work if you brought it back and it was just exclusively of flights from L.A. to Vegas. Which is Vegas to anywhere. Just to two Vegas, then back, that's it.

No, not on the way home from Vegas, because then you've got to kind of get in your right mind. It's only going to two Vegas. Lock it up. Lock it up. Lock it up. Yeah, you're probably right. That would work. Should that be our app idea? Bring back who to? air.

DK is really deep. What are you doing? I'm trying to see. You started going to hooters. I'm reading about Hooters. They only had seven. The last thing we heard from you is I just Googled Hooters and it's been five minutes. Sorry.

I was reading. I actually was literally trying to figure out. I was trying to figure out if they serve wings or not. They had to them. That's messy. This is the Amanda Seafreed thing all over again. Yeah. I really like Amanda Seafreed.

Oh yeah? And what? Look, she's a really talented actress. in many good movies, in great roles. Right. Clips, a lot of good clips. I want to say something about Jerry Jones.

I think the reason he said we know almost a year in advance where the sun's going to be is because that's like when the schedule gets released. So he can figure out the date, the time of the game. And I didn't want to defend him because it's funnier thinking he doesn't know that we know where the sun's going to be like thousands of years in advance. But that's, I think, what he meant. I think we did to figure this out on the show and we like decided that we would just

like keep laughing about it. It's more fun to live in. But the flip side is he says that that doesn't change the fact that you cool, you knew where the son was when the schedule came out. Your players are still being blinded. That makes it worse admitting that you knew the whole time and did it on purpose.

When C.D. Lambs dropping touchdowns, ironically, against the Eagles, this is the team they got blinded against. Was the team like, we actually, you know, played pretty well against Eagles. That was, they lost that game like 38 to 6 or whatever. because C.D. Lamb dropped the ball in the sun. That's like when you are playing a high school sport and you like scored a basket on a future NBA player

and you're just like, yeah, I mean, I scored on Andre Aguadala once. Sorry, I was wrong. It was 34 to 6. I regret the error. They lost 34 to 6 because Cidia Lam dropped the ball in the end zone. Also, I might be wrong though because they released the schedule in May and then the season starts in September. So that is a good sense. That's not a year. No, that makes sense. Well, he said almost a year.

That makes sense. Three months. Well, no, they only get six months to figure out with the sun. Five months. not enough time to like, you know, figure out to put the curtains up. You know, you need scientists on that for years. It takes months to put curtains up. My favorite part of the- I'm going back to he doesn't know that we know thousands of years.

He just doesn't know. The best thing of the whole thing to me was that like five days after the whole thing happened, they had that Jake Paul, Mike Tyson fight, and they put the curtains up. Yeah. Like that was the best, like literally did it like three days later. And they do it for concerts, right? Yeah. Also, when they first said curtains, I thought it was a joke.

I didn't realize they have it. Curtains for Zushka. Cards for Zushka. K-smoggin. Caught flipping a grunt. Kismoggin who? Zushka? Caught flipping a grunt.

Caught flipping a grunt. Is this how I feel when I'm around you guys? They always talk about small foot? What is that? Yeah. Annie DeVito is adorable. I don't know what this means. Zendai is Michi.

Zendai is Mici. LeBron is Guangy. And Spotify is Kula. You guys have no idea how often you say this. I still don't know what it means. We should all screen small foot together. We should. Yeah, we should watch it.

You think we'd be the first people? I don't know if that movie was successful. Quanchi. Shannan, Tannib, is Mingo. Dude, that movie made... That movie made $214 million. Damn. Where's the fucking Smallfoot sequel?

I bet you that's in the worst. Should we write it? No one's lining up for that. What is it about? I don't know. Got it's small foot. No, it's about Bigfoot's like... It's something to do with Bigfoot.

Right? Oh, I actually never put that together until right now. I kind of never thought about that. It looks like a Yeti, not a big, it looks like an abominable snowman, not a Bigfoot. Well, I mean, doesn't Bigfoot just kind of, it's like a polar bear grizzly bear thing? I guess.

It's kind of. I don't know, actually. Yeah, I guess so. It's about a village of Yeti's. I'm not going to read the whole plot of Smallfoot. I want to, give me the log line for Christ's sake. High up on a mountain peak surrounded by clouds,

a secret Yeti society lives in peace and harmony. One day, a Yeti witness is an airplane crash. Inside lies small foot. a legendary creature that will rock the society to its core. Oh, it's like a person. Who's Smallfoot? Probably a person. You mean the actor?

Yeah. And is Smallfoot's name Smallfoot? I don't think his name is Smallfoot. Michi. No, Zendai is Mici. Oh, fuck. Guy just texted. Gina Rodriguez is Colca.

Jimmy Tacharo is Thorpe. Wait, hold on. We need to do Smallfoot characters or work apps. Yeah. We need to do a work app. Show! Yo! Okay.

We already just ran through all the small characters. No. When we're at the NFL Combine, when we're at the NFL Combine, should we ask players, is this a character in Smallfoot, or an app we use at Spotify?

We also have to describe to them what the fuck are you talking about. Mici or the, this takes way too much explanation. I don't think they've seen Smallfoot. I don't think so? No. That's like you said it made $200 million. It did.

but I just, I don't know. I guess when it came out... Is anybody with no kids watching Smallfoot? No. So the Combine people are probably not going to be the best. Well, the movie came out seven years ago. They're all like 20. That's kind of what I'm saying.

It's 13. Maybe. It's close. Maybe. Oh. That's how old we are. They were 13, 14 years old? We could do it in a few years. Yeah, let's save it.

Write that down. What the fuck was Smallfoot? I don't know. Channing Tatum, Migo is Smallfoot. But Migo is Smallfoot. No. Migo's not Smallfoot. Migo is a young Yeti who is determined to prove the existence of Smallfoot. So do we not know who Smallfoot is still?

I'm not sure. We'll have to tune in. Maybe it doesn't exist. Maybe Smallfoot doesn't talk. And he's this kind of mysterious figure, much like Bigfoot. It's going on Bigfoot. Okay. So you want another email? Yeah. It's from Justin.

Eli Henry is Fleem. I've definitely logged into something on Spotify using Flem. I think that's how I submit by expense sports on FLEM. No, that's how you book travel. With Flemma. Yeah. This email's from Justin. Justin.

You keep saying the football season's over, but we're pretty much in the preseason for the UFL. And he asked if we can start doing two UFL. The UFL Fantasy League is a bit. What can you do two UFL players that a lie? And so I actually have prepared for us two UFL two UFL MVPs and the CEO of Hooters. Great. Nice.

One of these people is the CEO of Hooters. Okay. The other two. The current CEO of Hooters? Yes. And the other are... How's business? Former MVP's.

Seems to be on the decline. Yeah. The internet kind of fucked Hooters. Right. You don't have to leave your home. No. Now. Yeah.

Now you can just order Uber Eats with an Oculus on and have a better experience. Oh, shit. Hooters should have an Oculus app. They probably do. Okay. All right, let's do this game. All right. Two UFL MVP's and the CEO of Hooters.

Terence Marks. Okay. Adrian Martinez. Luis Perez. Interesting. I think I know the answer. I think Luis Perez is the CEO. No, I think Adrian is the CEO of Hooters.

I think. Terence Marks is the CEO of Hooters. Everyone locking you in your answer? Yeah. Adrian. Terence Marx is the CEO of Hooters. You know, you six-out-old-dish. I know, Adrian Martinez and Luis Perez are both former college players.

Louis-Pres, he played for the charges for a little bit in preseason. Good safe. Luis-Prez was the, he was like the MVP of one of those leagues. Yes. I don't know which one. The X-FEL, maybe? I mean, that was the whole bit, was he was the MVP of the UFL. UFL.

Not the X-FL. I think they merged. The other one. I pay a lot of attention to the, this and then I kind of just stopped. He played at East Texas A&M. Who, Luis Perez? Mm-hmm.

Yeah. He was in, he brought him in Martinez. He was at Nebraska, I think. Yeah. Adrian Martinez. Yeah. While we're here on Nebraska and Kansas State. I heard my dad complaining about him a lot.

He was in the Lions for a brief stint. And the Jets. Oh, he's on the Jets. And the U.F.L? No, he was on the U.S. 24. No, he's on the Jets right now. The Jets roster is Adrian Martinez. Travis.

I was the Travis Hunter. Jordan Travis. and Tyra Taylor. He signed a reserve future contract on January 6th. While we're here. I don't know why that was so good. One last question. I know there's been a couple weeks in the Super Bowl

since people are listening to this. But how do you think Dylan Riola is handling this Patrick Williams' loss? I know. He just shows up looking like Jalen Hertz next year. For those who don't know, there's a crazy thing happening where, so the Lions had the center named Dominic Riola and his son is one of the, I don't know if he's one of the best. He was a good high school quarterback prospect.

He was a big-time prospect. He was a big prospect. I don't know what as NFL. I have a freshman last. He was a freshman last year. He was a freshman last year. Yeah. So Dylan Ryola and he's at Nebraska.

And he, I don't want to be, he is, I know I use the term cosplay a lot, but I think more than I've ever seen in any kind of sport, Dylan Ryola does Patrick Mahomes cosplay. Oh, big guy. Like his hair is the same. He wears 15. Nebraska has the red and white colors.

He dresses like him. He does the ski goggles. Like everything. He's basically. He does like a. Just the warm-up thing where he like, Mahomes, like, runs around and does this thing. It's like, he's like the spitting image of it. But tell me I'm not crazy.

Like, it's closer to a Vegas impersonator than someone who likes Patrick Mahomes. Like, Dylan Ra-Lohlo could quite literally show up at a birthday party. He knows Mahomes. Oh, but that makes it weirder to me. Like, he could, but anyway, I wonder how Dylan Ryola is handling the Mahomes loss. Did you know that Dylan Royola is Matthew Stafford's godson? Yeah. Yeah, because of the Lions.

Yeah. He was the center for the Lions. Do you think Stafford's like, why don't even look like me? Calm down. that's good point. Why do you cosplay as me? It's definitely a weird. It's definitely a weird thing.

It's odd. I can't wait to talk about it. I'm actually looking at his recruiting. He's crazy. He's 24-7 sports. He, the evaluator at the time reminds us of Matthew Stafford. Wow.

There you go. He's 6-3-2-30. Big boy. His picture, I mean, he has his hair exactly like Mahomes. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway.

Hopefully he's good. If he's good, then we'll start. This will deserve more media attention. It's so weird. It is a little odd. It's, it's, he just went too far.

Yeah. He went too far. Yeah. It's like his own personality. He's like, the same like body type and everything. It's really strange. He's like,

wearing the pit bike or glasses. It's no, it's literally like, I can't, I can't overstate how this guy is taking like every possible length to be like Patrick Mums. It's really strange.

He does like the thing with his hand, with his fingers. He does everything. You know, you know, the fans, the cheer or whatever. It's like how Jason Tatum can only say lines of former athletes.

Yeah, he only says, the catchphrases. Things Kobe said on YouTube videos. I wonder what Nebraska fans feel about this. I mean, I think they're just happy to be back. You better be good or else people are going to make fun of you mercilessly. I don't know. I think that, well, sure,

but I think Nebraska fans are pretty happy to get a five-star all back. I mean, for sure, yeah. Yeah. So that's one of those brands that kind of died out to us that has no relevance, where it's like Nebraska in the 90s was like how we think of like Miami in the 2000s obviously not exactly the same but like Nebraska's dominant and I'm like how often you think about Nebraska football

yeah but like I feel like to your generation that they were like crazy to use a Bill Simmonsism when's the last Nebraska football conversation you had now well it's Nebraska football when I was growing up was like and through all the way through the 70s too I think we're just like a national powerhouse they want a bunch of titles under Osborne and then they've turned into sort of the laughing stock of the college football.

I think they've turned the corner on that. They're not that anymore. Well, we're kind of just laughing at their quarterback right now. So, I mean, you can be good. He could be good. But, yeah, they were a super massive powerhouse. One of the blue bloods. One of the best mascots.

One of the best names, cornhusker. So sick. It's pretty iconic. It went downhill when we started using GMOs. Just saying. Interesting. Never think about that? No, that's something.

We should look into that. Yeah, we should do your own research. All right, that's all we got. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Kyle. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Austin. Thank you everyone for emailing. So ring your fancy football atcom. We're going to be at the Indianapolis.

NFL Combine. We're combining in the Combine. Come on. You use a combined for corn, I think. Yeah, you do. Other crops. Corn, too, I assume. I think they call it a combine.

Well, they do. I assume you use that for corn like other crops, right? You would use a combine. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, the combined. I'm not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure they use combines. You could ride a combine at the combine when we combined.

I mean, I never farmed, but yeah. Not yet. You haven't farmed yet. Right. Thank you, Lauren. Privileged. Lauren. Thank you, hooty and the blowfish.

Wow. Hooters, hooty, you know. Oh. God, it's still on your mind. Sicko. Look, Craig, they're a company that's withstood the test of time. That's also a generational thing. I don't know anyone under 33 has been to Hooters. I've never been to Hooters.

I don't even know where they are. I feel like I don't see them anymore. Yeah. I mean, I think they shrunk significantly. They don't have a lot of hooters anymore. You know, one time in college I went to a tilted kilt. You know that? Excuse me?

Yeah, it's basically like a hooters knockoff. Wow. Yeah. What is the, so they're all wearing kilts? Yes. It's like, yeah. I don't know. I don't get it.

They're dressed like. I think the kilted get tilted. Oh, are they tilted up and whatnot? Like, are they revealing? Are they like long kilts? I imagine they were quite short. I doubt they were ankle length. Yeah, I went once.

I can barely remember going. The whole time I was like, a likely story. Yeah, being in a hooters is weird too. I have gone in a hooters. It's pretty strange. It's a very outdated concept of like, hit on your waitress, you pig.

Yeah. It's just like, you won't do it. It's pretty weird. Yeah, it's a Scottish-Irish-themed sports pub. God. But yeah. Hootie and the Blowfish? Thoughts?

You only want me on you. Pretty good. Darius Rucker. Yeah. Is he the only one that went solo from that? Who else was in that? The line in Ted where he's like, you can do any 90s song with only at vowels.

A.E. I owe you. Who was the blowfish? I only want to be. Yeah. What happened to the blowfish? I feel like I haven't heard the once last blowfish conversation. Like, like,

what's the last time? It was Darius Rucker, Mark Brian, Dean Felber and Jim Sonafeld. I won't lie obviously. Dean Felber and Jim Sonafeld don't even have links Rucker's the only guy.

What? I can't even click on their names. That's how unfamous they are currently. That's how bright Rucker shined. Yeah. That's crazy. Rucker probably got some serious cash. I mean, think about...

Thought you're going elsewhere with that. What you said? When I hear somebody got some serious, I don't, my head doesn't go to go. Sounds like cash. I don't think cash. Right. I thought it was following you.

And then you said cash. I don't think cash. You said cash. You said Rucker must have gotten some serious. And I was like, ass? I thought you could say ass. Okay. That makes more sense.

Hy Fitz is like, I don't know what we're talking about. I've never been to a hooters. I've never heard the word ass. Rock stars have never been known for getting a lot of women. Man, Mick Jagger must have gotten some serious. What do you think the next word is? I get it. I see now how.

I was not true. tracking this conversation probably. Jesus, clearly. Yeah. But yeah, sure, Rutgers probably rich. Yeah. All right, goodbye, everyone. Oh, you really are. I'm toe deaf. I'm super tone deaf. It's like a huge

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