The Ringer NFL Show - Our Official Top Targets of 2021

Episode Date: August 23, 2021

As draft season heats up, we break down our updated top targets for the 2021 season.  RB Najee Harris, Steelers (1:52) RB Antonio Gibson, Washington (4:33) TE Tyler Higbee, Rams (8:00) QB Justin Fields, Bears (9:46) WR Robert Woods, Rams (13:43) RB Mike Davis, Falcons (15:40) RB Aaron Jones, Packers (21:16) WR CeeDee Lamb, Cowboys (24:04) WR Tee Higgins, Bengals (30:40) WR Jerry Jeudy, Broncos (33:55) WR Robby Anderson, Panthers (37:11) WR Keenan Allen and Mike Williams, Chargers (39:31) WR Marvin Jones, Jaguars (43:07) TE T.J. Hockenson, Lions (46:48) WR Corey Davis, Jets (47:51) WR Elijah Moore, Jets (49:20) Antonio Brown, Bucs (51:57) Check out The Ringer's 2021 Fantasy Football Draft Guide here. Email us at [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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football show. My name is Danny Heifitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck. We have our draft guide up at fantasyfutball.th.com. It's beautiful. Check it out. We have top 200 rankings. And as of now, we have our top targets, the guys that we are targeting in drafts. It's not just like sleepers. It's like our favorite. These are our favorite guys. And the guys that we're drafting and in our leagues we're walking away with in drafts. And we're going to go through them all right now. If you don't want to read, just listen to this pod. will get the same information. You just like spilled the secret sauce.

I mean, you can still do both because both stimulate different parts of the brain. Somebody on a walk right now is just like, shit, can I listen to books? Yeah, dude, you can. Don't tell that. That's a direct competitor. Okay, we're just going to get into it. So our top targets, so there's a couple guys that we actually have overlapped and we have the same guys for. Yeah, we each had eight.

We each had eight, to be clear, that we submitted blind. None of us talked about it beforehand. And these are the three guys, no, four guys that overlapped in our lists. We're just starting right up. We're going to it. Naji Harris, running back for the Steelers. Love it. Surprisingly, I was the one that didn't overlap.

And I'm the Steelers fan. You guys both had Noggi. I didn't. You get like the reverse homerism going. Like, you don't want to jinx it, I think, is what's happening here. Yeah. Just like how high it hates Sequin. Yeah, exactly.

It's just to protect my own emotional involvement. But I don't hate Najee Harris. So go ahead, guys. Give your pitch. For me, it's really simple. I think he's going to get more than 20 touches a game. I think he's going to catch a lot of passes too. I don't love the Steelers' offense, but he's not leaving the field.

Naja Harris is going to be one of the handful of guys in that 85 club, the guys who play 85% of snaps. That's Christian McCaffrey. That's Dalvin Cook. That's Ezekiel Elliott. That's Sequin Barkley when he's healthy. Nage Harris, I think, is going to join that club this season as a true three down back. And when I see him floating at the end of the second round in some leagues, you can get him with like the 21st, 22nd pick. It's automatic for me, and I'm just praying that he falls.

I love Nagee this year. Yeah, I mean, I agree with. you, everything that we've seen in the preseason two just confirms, I guess what we've been thinking all along. He's playing almost exclusively all the snaps with the first team. They're using, using him as a runner and a pass catcher. He's looked really good, by the way, too, I think. Breaking tackles, you know, doing all that stuff, creating behind a really bad offensive line. And if you look back on, you know, Levyon Bell's career with the Steelers, this is, like, the reason that we'd latched on to Najee Harris during the offseason is, like, he's going to have that three-down roll,

that locked in very rare three-down roll. And I mean, looking back on Levi-on-Bel's career, like with the Steelers every year, he was averaging like 300-plus touches a year. So I think this is just really exciting time to kind of like you can still get a sort of discount, a slight discount on a guy who's going to be a probably top four, top five pick next year.

So, yeah, I think Najee Harris, even with the offensive line, you know, struggles, all that stuff. I'm not really too worried about that, honestly. so I'm just looking forward to this season I think he's just going to go off offensive line is overrated for fantasy running backs

Joe Mixing doesn't have a good offensive line it's just not as big a deal especially if you're a receiving back which is what Najee Harris can do what I like about Najee Harris is like even though he's going to play 85% of snaps there is not a single player in that team who's going to steal a goal line carry from that man

like there's nobody else on the stealers Ben's not going to do it because he can't move there's no other backup running backs that are going to do it like he is going to eat up in the road zone certainly not going to be like Anthony McFarland who has looked fine but he's not, he's nowhere near, like, the level of Naji. And plus he's, Nashi is big and he's going to be that, like, that battering ram in the goal line area.

Yeah, he thick, yeah. He's also a fun guy. Like, it's a fun person to have on your fantasy team. Like, sometimes it matters. Like, you just want one of your top picks to just. Bay Area guy. Yeah, he's a fun. He's like a fun person you're going to enjoy rooting for him.

Okay. Another top target. We've got running back Antonio Gibson for Washington football team. Really in the same bucket. I think they're ranked next to each other in a lot of different places. I think including in our fantasy football draft guide. Gibson's really simple. It's second year breakup candidate, like blow up candidate.

This is the guy, D.K. put it. It's like poor man's Christian McCaffrey breakout season from a few years ago. It's not going to be Christian McCaffrey, but you have all the boxes checked. If he can play in all these different ways, he can contribute in all these different ways, he's really good.

Everything good just kind of seems to be lining up for Antonio Gibson. Yeah. I think I'm not quite as confident in Gibson as I am in Harris, basically based on the, usage, but I think that the Washington offense is going to be more explosive, certainly. I think offensive line is better. I think he's going to be much more involved than we saw as a rookie in the passing game. We've seen him getting involved in the passing game in preseason. There is some potential worrisome usage happening in the preseason based on like he's not

being used on third downs yet. It's mostly J.D. McKissick. And Jared Patterson has looked really, really exciting. So maybe they get him involved. So there's a worry that. the back of my mind that he's not going to be the Christian McCaffrey where you're getting 350 plus touches or whatever, but I think based on the way that they've used him and the way that he's played, he's going to be his floor is what we saw last year,

which is a really exciting, explosive guy who can score a lot of touchdowns. Plus, I think he's going to get far more targets in the passing game. So, I think he'll be more efficient, probably. And his feeling is like the year 2 McCaffrey. And this is Antonio Gibson's the second year where he's like, you know, like the RB4 or something on the year.

What's weird is, like, what you see on the field does not reflect what you hear from training camp. They're talking about how they're using him as a receiver like crazy. They see him as this McCaffrey type. Scott Turner, North Turner's son, and Ron Rivera, like the idea of having a third down or having a running back that can plan all three downs because it just helps a lot of things on offense. You can disguise what you do.

You're not tipping away that you're passing. So it's like, I think this is probably the Antonio Gibson narrative right now is probably the top. Like, is training camp buzz actually real? And we'll see it probably week one, we'll just know. If Jeannie McKissick plays on 80% of the third downs, we're like, all right, that was kind of all bullshit, you know? But in week 12 during the season last year,

when we saw Antonio Gibson Peak, he had 20 carries and seven targets. He had 36 fantasy points that day. He was awesome. That, and then he got turftoe, or he heard his ankle. I think it was turftoe. And then it kind of trailed off for the rest of the season. So it's like, is that week 12, if he can get 20 carries a game and seven targets a game,

he'll be the steel of the late, second, early third round. Yeah, he'd be like the RB2 behind the only McCaffrey probably, if he got that kind of volume. And honestly, he doesn't only... Third down is definitely where you're passing to backs more often, but he's going to get targets on first and second down also. So it's not like they're not mutually exclusive or whatever. And I think I saw that he was playing in most of the two-minute situations for Washington in the preseason.

You're going to get tons of opportunities in the passing game in that area. So, yeah, I'm definitely still very bullish on him, not quite as bullish in terms of volume as I am with Harris, but I do think he's going to be more efficient and positive. possibly more explosive. He's just faster, home run type hitter guy. So, yeah, I'm really excited about him.

And lastly, he might be the sexiest pick in the first three. There's just that unknown. It's like the unknown ceiling. Yes. Absolutely. Like, Joe Mixon is not a sexy pick.

Antonio Gibson is a sexy pick. And you just, it's just inherent. You can feel it. Sintillating. Speaking of scintillating, Craig did do the podcast of Sean McVeigh this summer. So we are legally obligated

or contractually obligated to mention the Rams? Is that how it works, Craig? Is that why we keep bringing the Rams up? Well, as a brother of Sean, I am familiarly obligated to mention a Rams player. So, yeah, we all aligned on Tyler Higby,

tied end for the Rams. No, not all of us, just you guys. Oh, not you, D.K.? Yeah, unfortunately not. All right, well, D.K. is going to stay silent for the next three minutes. Yeah, listen, we love Higby.

He's going super late. You can get him 128th in ESPN leagues, and the stats of him on the field without Gerald Everett, there's been, I think, five games in the last two years or six games, He's essentially been Travis Kelsey when that has happened.

I'm not saying he's going to be Travis Kelsey this year. But with an upgraded quarterback in Stafford and a guy like Higby who has proven he can handle the workload on his own, there is no safer pick at 128th with also the upside that Higby has at 128th than our man here. I think it's the single easiest player to look outside the top 100 and you're like, oh, I see how they would outperform that. If you can get Tyler Higby outside the top 12, top 13 tight ends, which look, someone's going to reach for him. but again, we all expect the Rams to be good. Craig, I think, infected us with the McVeigh optimism,

but also Higby has, again, Higby's the others. I had it before Craig did that too, though. I think this, yeah. We can't say this enough. Tyler Higby is the only tied in NFL history with four consecutive hundred-yard games. Sorry, no, he tied the NFL record. The other guys who have had up four consecutive hundred-yard games at tight-end

are Tony Gonzalez, Travis Kelsey, Jimmy Graham. Tyler Higby is the fourth guy. Three Hall of Famers, yeah. And now his quarterback's way better. And Gerald Levern's gone. So, yeah, it's Higbee outside the top 120 is pretty incredible. The last guy we've got here is the top target is Justin Fields for the Bears. This one's a little risky.

This one's more risky than the first two guys, or first three guys I should say. But yeah. It's much riskier. And to be clear, I don't have Fields as my starting quarterback everywhere. I don't think he's going to be the Bears starter in week one. Right. I don't know when the Bears are going to play for Justin Fields. But I think that Fields has so much upside that I want Justin Fields is my backup quarterback almost everywhere I go.

I don't usually draft backup quarterbacks, to be honest. I think it's a waste of time when like Derek Carr is just out there like on your waivers, like totally available. But I think that feels and I really feel the same way about Trey Lance. The rushing that they bring, the upside of the offense is again, Justin Fields is faster than his number one receiver Alan Robinson. I just want that ability on my bench in case if he starts, if he's starting in week three, I don't want the guy who just got, saw the Adam Schaefter tweet

or got the bleacher report, push notification to get Fields first. I want that to happen on my bench. Same. That was perfect. All right, great. There we go. I want to say, I want to just add a little quick, I guess, analysis on fields, I think. Right now, we don't really know, like, when he's going to start.

Obviously, it sounds like not week one is 100% certain at this point. It sounds like Nagy is named Andy Dalton the week one starter. However, I have been encouraged by how he's played. And most importantly, well, maybe not most importantly, but very importantly for fantasy purposes, he's been running, scrambling quite a bit in the preseason, more than any of the other quarterbacks, more than any of the other rookie quarterbacks, including Trey Lance,

who I think coming into the off season, I think people were most bullish on his rushing upside based on what he did in college. Trey Lance was a very prolific runner in a run-first offense in college, and there's a lot of people that believe that's going to transfer over to the NFL, and it definitely still could. However, Lance doesn't really run that much in the preseason. And Justin Fields has,

mostly on scrambles, whether he's breaking the pocket or whatever. But honestly, it doesn't matter. For fantasy purposes, that's actually a good thing. You know, you want him to develop as a pocket pass or down the line. And with this offensive line,

that might not happen as a rookie for fields. Well, the Niners are almost too good for Lance to scramble. Like, the offense is so honed in. Like, he knows what to do in every scenario. In Fields, they just kind of like tossed a little toddler in the water without floaties.

And he's just kind of making it work. It reminds me a lot of what, what Jalen Hertz looked like last year. And obviously, Jalen Hertz, there's still a lot of question marks about him as a passer long term. I get that. However, he was taken off running, scrambling.

They used him in, you know, like read options style stuff too. But a lot of his rushing yards came on scrambles where like the pocket would break down. He didn't have everybody open. So he'd just take off. And I could see the exact same thing happening with fields. He's going to score probably like three or four touchdowns that way

once he becomes a starter. And I mean, honestly, you know, in the games where Jalen Hertz was a starter for the for the for the eagles last year he was like a top five option every week so um as soon as fields takes the field uh sorry that's a bit of a mouthful but yeah as soon as he gets on the field i think he's going to be um a top five option in fantasy and you know eventually i think he's going to develop into a much better passer down the line but i think early on it's going to be because of his scrambling and all that ability okay so those are the guys we agree on and i think you're at least

two of the three of us have those guys as top targets and like we're leaving the our drafts with these guys nausea harris running back from pittsburgh and tonyo gibson running back from Washington, Tyler Higbee, Titan from the Rams, Justin Fields, quarterback for the Bears. Let's get to each other's top targets, the ones that we did not overlap on in which we might have, if not disagreement, mild dissension,

I don't know, indifference maybe, which is worse than hatred. Okay. It's a big fact of life. That is true. I'd rather have a heated argument than a boring conversation. It's the madman thing in the elevator where it's like, you know, it's like, you know, guys maddened,

and he's like, I don't actually think about you at all. It's like, that's worse than being hated. That's the harshest thing anybody's ever said to anyone ever. It's really tough. Okay, D.K., give us some top targets, the rest of your list. I'm going to start out with Robert Woods for the Rams. Keeping it on the Rams, because I actually agree completely with you guys that the Rams' offense has potential to really just go nuclear this year with a quarterback

that opens up the field in a way that I don't think Jared Gough ever could. And I was reading a great article by Shield Capady over at the athletic, and he was talking about how Matt Stafford. is much better in a couple very important areas, number one on play action, and I believe the second one was under pressure. And these are situations where I think McVeigh can, in the first one with play action,

McVeigh can really scheme up play action. They're going to be explosive. They're going to push the ball downfield more than they did last year for sure. But also I think just, you know, Stafford's ability to react to pressure. Pressure's going to come. You can't scheme away all pressure.

It just doesn't happen. And how he reacts to that, I think it's going to be really important. So bottom line, I think Woods brings a very, not unique, but a rare combination of floor and ceiling in the fantasy world. Because I think he's going to have that floor that we all know and love from the last three years. It's like almost just automatic he's going to get, you know, X amount of targets, 90 plus targets and, you know, just do his thing and be a very, very valuable top 12 guy in PPR and everything. And that's like his floor. But also if this offense opens up and they're starting to push the ball down field more like,

aggressively, vertically. His efficiency is going to jump, and I think his touchdowns could really spike this year. So I think Woods has that ceiling in addition to having the floor. So that's just like, to me, the perfect pick. The floor to ceiling window. That's Robert Woods right there. Exactly, with a view. So I'm really excited about him. Cinderella last year, now he's Rapunzel. Also, by the way, the other thing to add right before we leave is he is good for like a rush or two every week. He like has the, he used on sweeps and arounds. They do use them on screens and things like that. So yeah. he usually runs for over like 100 yards a year.

Exactly. Just like an extra point or two a week, it's nice. If we're going on brand here with Robert Woods, I'm just going to go on brand and I'm just going to go Mike Davis. You know what? I don't care. We didn't even say Bobby Trees. Shit. We got to say, we got to throw Bobby Trees.

Bobby Trees for Robert Woods. Mike Davis, Mike Funk Davis. There we go. Again. Mike Davis is going 77th, 77 in drafts and ESPN. He's just starting running back and probably going to get the goal line carriers to. this is behind the Buccaneers defense. Oh my God. People are taking defense first before Mike Davis.

The box defense is going in ESPN draft ahead of Mike Davis. This is starting running back. It's because most people have no idea who Mike Davis is. That's it. I get it. He's like a journeyman running back. He's been a backup for a long time and like he can't try. I don't care.

The value's insane. I'm not saying draft Mike Davis in the third round. What I am saying is in a league. You can, you can like draft in the first round. You can get like Dalvin Cook or Z. You can get a first round running back. you can go a receiver like the next six picks or throwing Darren Waller if you want

fill out your flex your bench everything and you can come back and get Mike Davis as like your seventh or eighth pick and he's a starting running back who might be better than Josh Jacobs and Miles Sanders who are going like 40 picks earlier like I still don't understand like even if you're low on him if you're low on the Falcons

if you're low on Mike Davis holding the job even then I don't understand how he's like 20 picks behind Miles Gaskin in some places it's crazy to me Mike Davis as your RB2 You know As your eighth pick is the most I am in love with the guy

You're just running so hot on Funk Davis here Can I make you play devil's advocate For why you wouldn't want him? What's worst case scenario for Funk? Well, I think that that's part of what I like about it Is that all the rest of the Falcons Other options have all kind of flamed out To be honest. Quadra Allison's the backup

All the other guys are pretty routinely disappointed Like the Falcons coaching staff So Arthur Smith doesn't really like it doesn't feel like they've gotten good looks from the other guys, but we're talking about Javian Hawkins, who we see an undrafted free agent rookie this year, that's like maybe going to be the third guy on the depth chart. Like, they don't have other options.

Mike Davis is the lead back, but instead of like the veteran back there that's going to steal carries or going touches, that's Mike Davis. That's what they're rolling with. Arthur Smith has the outside zone scheme. Like it's the kind of thing where people succeed, like, those kind of journeymen running backs succeed all the time.

We don't think of it that way because Derek Henry is like this thing, famous guy, but that doesn't mean that guys with Mike Davis's profile haven't been able to succeed in this offense all the time. So I just, I feel like there's a huge, honestly, it's like a Q score gap. It's a PR gap. Like, Rahim Moster is out here doing four touchdowns and 220 yards in the NFC championship game. Like, if they hadn't, if he has knee issues, so he's not able to be the starting running back. But this system of outside zone has a long history of nobody's being able to execute it. So I just, I think that it's really, if he, was a little more famous or highly touted as a prospect,

it would be a completely different conversation. But I think that the Falcons' lack of addition to the position is evidence that they trust him. Let me ask you something. You're in the middle of the draft. It's the fourth or fifth round, and there's two running backs staring at you. You already have your top guy,

let's say you took his ego, Ellie. You're looking for your RB2. The two guys remaining, one who has fallen is Josh Jacobs, and the other right below him is Mike Davis. Who are you taken? No, you said fourth or fifth round. That's not what I'm saying.

What I'm saying about Mike Davis that I like about him is how you can build your team. You can get that first running back in the first round. Highfit says the future politician here. This is just deflecting. I'm saying the whole point is that he might be better than Josh Jacobs, but he's three or four rounds later. There's the value to them.

I understand that, but we have him ranked as a fifth rounder. So I'm saying if you're in the fifth round and Josh Jacobs has fallen down and him and Mike Davis are there, who are you taking? Oh, man. I... So I would, if I have to take... a running back.

So what I was say, I think the real answer is if it's gone to your head, you could take Josh Jacobs because Mike Davis is probably there the next round. I actually think Mike Davis is a better season than Josh Jacobs this year. There you go. You heard it here first. Mike Davis is probably, I'm not completely jumping on this hype train too, but like Mike Davis is probably less game script dependent than Josh Jacobs. He can catch.

Yeah. I think so, Hyphitz, I would say the only thing that I would push back on, and I think this is generally why he's going where he's going is he is a journey. in. He has played with like X amount of teams, however many teams before. He, I don't think is as talented as a lot of the guys. I don't think he's as talent as Josh Jacobs, frankly. However, I mean, I agree with everything you're saying, though, in terms of the situation, it's a type of guy that I think outplays his ADP because there are those things that are holding people back from getting too excited about it. And I honestly, like the Arthur Smith angle is

the most interesting to me. Like, we don't know what his offense is going to look like. In the past, obviously, they've been very balanced and not afraid to run the ball, very good in the red zone. He could be way better than anyone is making an out to be, but I think that there's a history here where guys like with Mike Davis's profile just don't end up doing anything. But this could be the... I understand that, but you know what else doesn't really have the profile of doing anything? The Buccaneers defense being drafted ahead of Mike Davis. What's the profile for the Buccaneers defense being drafted 67th? It's unbelievable.

just play in a league with flexes. Arthur Smith is going full, running backs don't matter. They honestly are. It's fine. His head coach just got Derek County to like 3,500 yards in two years. It's fine.

It's okay. Craig, who's your next top target? It wouldn't be a top targets episode in August if I didn't mention Aaron Jones. I've been on him since we started the show and I'm on him again this year. Once again, I think he is underrated.

Aaron Jones in ESPN ADP is going 12th behind Nick Chub, Jonathan Taylor, and Sequin. Barclay, I would take him ahead of all of those guys. He has less question marks this year than he's ever had. They made him the six highest paid running back in the league, and they lost Jamal Williams, who, when

both were active, Jamal Williams played on 46% of snaps for the Packers last year. 46, that's nearly half. That guy's gone. And I know, we all like AJ Dylan. Agent Dillon's great. But even if A.J. Dillon, I think Aaron

Jones will probably play a similar amount of snaps. I think probably the most of his career, and he may see a similar amount of touches, but where I think he'll lose and carries, I think he will make up for and catches, because that is not something that AJ Dillon is proficient out, and Aaron Jones really is.

He also has the trust of Aaron Rogers. He's going to be the third down back. He can pass block. I think the ceiling is as high as it's ever been for Aaron Jones, not to mention the Packers last year were like the most efficient red zone passing offense like of all time.

That's not going to happen again. Aaron Jones is a lock for double-digit touchdowns if he's healthy, and we'll see the most touches of his career, I think. If you're sitting there on the clock, Craig, I want to test your conviction here. Yeah. And Alvin Camara and Aaron Jones are on the clock. Are you going Aaron Jones?

Absolutely. I have him ahead of him in my rankings. All right. Absolutely. I don't even think this is hot, though. I have in the past regretted sort of talking down Aaron Jones. I think he's just that good. I think this offense is going to be good.

And I agree with you. I think he has the potential to expand his role in the passing game this year. I personally have been on the train that age. Dillon is a better pass catcher than people think, but I'm not saying he's a better pass catcher than Aaron Jones. I think Aaron Jones is clearly going to be the guy they want to get involved in Alvin Camara role. If anyone's as close to Alvin Camara, it's either Aaron Jones or a guy like Echler, but I think Aaron Jones has a higher ceiling in this offense. And I think just overall, like he's a better player at the end of the day.

And man, I'm like buying in on this whole Aaron Jones thing. And I get why people might take him over Camara because of the quarterback situation. Look, AJ Dylan could get eight to ten carries a game. I kind of don't think it matters. Like, I think Aaron Jones is going to get more catches than he's ever had this year and be on the field more than he ever has this year. Yeah, I can see it. Got to stay healthy, but yeah, I mean, anybody, any of these running backs do you, so.

All right, D.K., give us another top target. Hyvitz, do you hate that? Love it. Where are you at? I mean, I think Aaron Jones got a huge contract extension. Like, I don't really think that happens if they envision A.G. Dylan cutting into a lot of his work. Sweet. Thanks. All right. My next one, C.D. Lamb from the Cowboys, who I'm just kind of going with the second year breakout narrative, and I'm buying in completely to this. I just think he's going to be a hard knocks guy. There's got to be a hard knocks guy every year.

Number one. And I had him as my number one receiver coming out last year when he came into the draft. He was my number one guy above. Another guy will have on my list later. I just think he's extremely, extremely talented. His skill set is, it reminds me of like a Devante Adams, maybe even. Devante, like more refined than Adams was coming into the NFL, because Adam was, Adam was pretty, like, raw coming. Never forget when literally every fantasy football analyst said Devonte Adams sucked for, like the first two years of career. They were talking about him getting cut. Like, yes. People wanted him cut from the Packers, like Packers fans did.

So I think C.D. Lamb has that skill set. Like, a very good separator can get free at the line. Incredible, incredible, incredible body control and quickness to, like, evade coverage. all that stuff is great and that would be like enough for me to be like excited about him this year but also like when you talk about him being in this offense you talk about the fact that Amari Cooper is coming back slowly and maybe C.LAM is just the number one guy in this offense now.

They're moving him around more so he's going to get the potential to have more outside routes like bigger payoff routes instead of just like being peppered in the slot. Obviously getting a lot of slot routes and getting a lot of slot targets is good for PPR but also you want him to have double digit touchdowns. You want him to have deep downfield catches so he can get more yards and games, all that stuff. I think it all can kind of, it's just like coming together.

It's the, like, you know, the river delta that, what's the word I'm looking for? Confluence. The confluence of so many variables. Thank you, Hyvitz. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just like really excited about this. I think the talent, getting him with DAC, you know, just the offense is going to be fast-paced and explosive, all that stuff.

It just works out for Lamb. I'm glad every Steelers fan, every Pittsburgh person right there. was like Confluence, beating Three Rivers. I hate when I can't come up for. We're the Three River City. Yeah. I think Lamb is great. I think he's the perfect hype guy of the season.

I feel like every year there's a couple of guys who like the casual fan will be like, I want that guy. Like my brother DM'd me a video of Cid Land making some ridiculous catch in training camp and said like, I'm not leaving my draft without him. Yeah. I think he's really up there this year. He's the perfect. Everything's coming together for like his second year. He's super flashy.

He had a great first year. It's just, it's the perfect pick, I think, for a fantasy football. player. The one thing I'll push back on is that you can wait 40 or 50 picks to get Michael Gallup, and I think that Michael Gallup will probably just outplay CD Lamb a few times this year. I'm not saying Michael Gallup's better than CD Lamb. Right. But part of me does in the back of my mind wondered, how are we feeling about the Cowboys' offense now? I mean, did you see that Adam Schaefter was on at halftime of the Cowboys preseason game? It was like, yeah, I think Dak's just going to be dealing with this whole shoulder thing all year. And like, no, that's a show. I guess it's a

lat, but the lat, you know, it seems to be, it might be like, you know, this kind of compensatory issue with his ankle. And I don't love the idea of DAC having this lat thing all year. And it's one of those things where I, now we're talking about, okay, there's the variable of whether Cooper is healthy or not, the variable whether DAC is healthy or not. Part of me is like, if I want a piece of the Cowboys offense, do I just wait five rounds and take Gallup and have like lesser exposure? But it's not like I'm not taking C.D. Lamb. Right. I want to, like, I'm I get it. I get it.

I think, yeah, I mean, and honestly, this is our top targets. This isn't necessarily the best values. And I think C.D. Lam is getting maybe,

like, priced at his ceiling. He's getting closer to being priced towards the ceiling. So that is something to keep in mind. However, I'm just saying, like,

this is the guy on my team. Like, it's just going to be fun. Like, in the sense of, like, fantasy football should be fun and exciting, too,

because it's a, you know, it's a past time that you do with your friends in some cases. And I'm just like, man, and I just want to root for CD Lamb on Sundays.

It's fun. Yeah, I would say top targets is kind of the confluence of like analytics and emotion. It's a little bit of both. Like this isn't just full value base. This is like who are you really viking with? And again, I think that CD, the thing with CD is that there's this tier, like this, I mean, however you wanted to find tiers, but I would say the second tier of receivers. There's like D.K. Metcalf, A.J. Brown, Justin Jefferson, Keenan Allen.

There's Alan Robinson, you know, Terry McLaurin. And CD Lamb is going right around the end of that tier, unless you're in a league with a lot of Cowboys fans. and grabbing CD Lamb like later if you can like fourth sometimes but really like your fourth pick

if you can wrap around and he's like CD maybe you're like your third receiver or even just like your second receiver is like it's fun that is very fun

I will give you that DK he's really climbing up ADP list like he's going 10 spots higher than Amari Cooper and ESPN ADP he's going 31st early third like the hype is real

but I'm going to throw out that Michael Gallup is also one of my top targets because for everything I just everything we just said about the Cowboys like I mean it's still still going to be a good offense I still think Michael, especially if Mark Cooper misses any time. I think Michael Gallup is still like a really good pick. Yeah, he's another beneficiary of the fact or assumption I guess that they're going to be moving guys around. They've talked about this more in the preseason moving guys from the slot to the outside. Basically all three players in

theory can be interchangeable in their offense. Last year it was like Gallup was running outside routes, vertical, he was the X receiver. Those are, I guess, lower percentage throws, basically where you're running deep down the field and they're throwing a deep shot to you. You're not going to have as many of those throughout the course of a game. And so that was definitely making him much more,

you know, volatile in the fantasy realm. Now they're talking about maybe running him out of the slot. He's always been a really good route receiver. Matt Harmon from Yahoo does this great reception study, and he has a new website. You should go check it out. where he tracks the success rate on all their routes, not just when they get targeted,

all their routes, how they're able to get off press, how they're able to beat different types of coverage zone, man, all that stuff. And Gallup has always been very strong as a route runner. And I think the talent there is apparent. Now he just needs to be in a role that's a little more fantasy friendly,

and he could be, especially if this Amari Cooper injury ends up going into the season and hurting his playing time or whatever. Like if Gallup is the number two guys, this offense, that's like one of the best values you can find in a draft, I think, honestly. So he's another guy. High Fitz, I'm with you.

I'm taking him as many drafts as I can because he's a good, you know, he's a good, he stands out compared to the rest of the guys that are around him to me. Beautiful. Craig, you got another top target for us? Yeah. This guy's kind of like a Kaiser Soze to me of the wide receivers. And it's T. Higgins. And the reason I say he's like Kaiser Soze is that quote from mutual suspects is like the

greatest trick that devil utter pulled was convincing people he didn't exist. I feel like once Jamar Chase came to. the Bengals. No one thinks T. Higgins exists anymore because he's just not as fun. Jamar Chase is this highly heralded prospect. But listen, T. Higgins is going essentially the next pick after Jamar Chase. Yeah. Higgins had such a productive and good rookie season. He only played like seven, eight weeks with Joe Burrow healthy once he became the starter. T. Higgins, that is. He was the wide receiver 11 over that span. And sure, Chase is there. But A.J. Green was there and was the starter when T. Higgins was doing that stuff. He got a ton of targets too. Yeah.

Yes, I just think he's a really productive player on an offense that's going to throw the ball a ton. And he's the perfect RB Dead Zone guy to take instead of a running back and like the sixth round who could potentially, I said this on an earlier pod. You know, I like these guys like Michael Gallup and Tyler Boyd, I think is a great pick too on Cincinnati. But I like these guys on like kind of muddled high octane passing offenses because they're all being priced at their floor. There's a lot of injuries in fantasy football. So it's like if one of these guys were to go down, T. Higgins' ceiling goes through the roof. Alan Robinson, for instance, is the opposite of that. If Darnell Mooney goes down or Cole Commet goes down,

I don't necessarily think Alan Robinson's like ceiling is going to raise that much. T. Higgins is the complete opposite side of that. Or he could just take over and be better than Jemar Chase. There's a lot of positive variables, I think, working in T. Higgins' favor that I think makes him just a fantastic pick hiding in the middle of the sixth round. Do you worry at all about some of the preseason narratives that are happening around the Bengals right now? like there's not a lot of good positive hype I would say

around the Bengals like Joe Burrow struggled throughout the first few practices he's starting to like kind of turn around he's like getting better but it's still I think a lot of worry about the offensive line there well Jamar Chase is the problem the Jamar Chase he dropped three balls in the preseason game he can't drop him balls all training camp

he can't separate I mean that makes me feel kind of good maybe because he hasn't played football in like you know 15 months yeah so it's like yeah listen I don't I don't necessarily think the Bengals need to be. We call them like Cowboys North. Even if that's not true. Who calls them Cowboys North? It's not true. We said that on this podcast. We joked about that. But I don't really care about that. I think Burrow, you know,

for however his knee holds up, they're going to throw the ball a ton. And T. Higgins, I think, is going to be the best receiver on the team. That's all I care about. I like this one a lot. I think Higgins is, I think exactly like he said, sort of the forgotten guy. He was like that coming out in the draft. Like a lot of people were really low on him because He's not like an explosive burner type guy. He's just a big target, really reliable, whatever. And there were people that were just thinking he was overrated coming into the draft. And he ended up being like almost a first round pick.

I think he was the first pick of the second pick of the second round. And, you know, just had an incredible rookie season. Like if you stack his rookie season up to a lot of guys that are like superstars in the NFL now, like he's like right on track on that trajectory, blah, blah, blah. a lot of talent, good offense, good situation. Yeah, I agree with all that. D.K., give us another top target. All right.

So speaking of second year receivers, since we're on that track, Jerry Judy of Denver. I think going into the season, I was like he's probably going to be the number two with Cortin Lus Sutton, sort of re-inheriting his number one role. I'm thinking maybe Judy's just the number one guy

in this offense. I think Sutton's still very good. But Sutton could sort of turn into like the Gallup type role where he's running a lot of the stuff on the outside. Judy is mixing in on the slot in the slot. He's also able to run on the outside too. But with his route running chops, his ability to separate. I guess here's a good example, I think.

Jerry Judy is the Deontay Johnson, and Chase Claypool is the Cortland Sutton on this offense. I think that Jerry Judy can be the guy that sort of supplements the run game for Denver, where he's running short routes, quick release, quick passes. He can separate early, get open, blah, blah, blah. But he's also got really incredible yards after the catchability. he's very fast, powerful runner in the open field.

Well, not powerful, powerful, but explosive. And at the end of the day, like, yeah, the drops are concerned, same with Deonté Johnson, but he's getting open and he's getting a ton of targets. He's earning these targets. And I think whether it's Bridgewater or Locke, I think I'd probably prefer Bridgewater with Judy in particular because I think that would mean much more focused on the short and intermediate areas in that offense. And Bridgewater looked really sharp in this last game, like really good.

Is he still rocking two gloves, D.K? I think so. I don't know. I didn't notice that in this last game. But he looked really sharp regardless. Teddy two gloves? I think he does. I think he still does.

Drew Locke should add another glove. Maybe see what happens. I would say Drewlock looked pretty crappy this last week against the Seahawks. He looked really sharp the first week. And so I'm very curious how this thing is going to go. It sounds like they're going to decide pretty soon here. Fanjo is going to make his decision. But I would say I would give Bridgewold.

there's slight edge after this last game. So do you think Cortland Sutton is being overdrafted? Because this is going to be a good defense. Where is he being taken right now? ESPN is being taken 70th. I mean, that seems fine. I think like he still has that upside.

He still is a alpha, big possession guy that can really factor in the red zone. I don't think he's necessarily being overdrafted. I think if he was in like the 50s, I would say yes. But him and Goliday, I think, have fallen in ADP over the last couple. couple of weeks. I haven't checked that, but off the top of my head, I would say they have. What were you going to say?

No, you compare Deonté to Claypool. And I think the difference is I like having Deonté and Claypool on my teams, but I just keep shying away from Cortland Sutton. The knee thing is the big worry for me. Well, there's the worry of the knee and how good is this offense going to be. I'd say you could probably say the same about the Steelers passing game, though, like how good is this passing game really going to be? And honestly, Claypool has now gotten hurt twice in the preseason. So it's starting to worry me a little bit. I would put him in like pretty similar tier. I think Claypool and Dynasty is certainly, um, I would probably have him ahead of him just because I think Claypool has like true, true superstar level talent and athleticism. You know, Sutton's very athletic and good too,

but I just like, I don't know, Claypool what he did as rookie was pretty incredible. Um, this season though, I think they're pretty similar. Like the Judy, Deontay, Claypool, and Sutton, they have like similar profiles, both of them. Okay. I'm going to give you guys another top target. again, Robbie Anderson, receiver for the Panthers. He's good. He's 28. He's fast. Just had the best season of his career.

He was on the Jets and sucked for the first four years. He was actually good, but no one cared. And he's got the Jets stink on him, so no one wants him. And if you think last year was a fluke, apparently Carolina is trying to sign Robbie Anderson to a contract extension, which means they're trying to lock him in now before he goes off this year and can get an even bigger deal. So I don't really know what's going on here besides, I guess, maybe people aren't

in on Sam Darnold. But, like, I actually think the Panthers' offense gets better this year with Donald. I really like Robbie Anderson. And I just, he just seems the guy, people just think it's a fluke. Like, oh, he led the team receiving the best year of his career, probably going down. No, I think it's, that's what happens when you leave Adam Gays and you go to a competent staff. I love Robbie Anderson this year. I think it's easy to forget.

Robbie Anderson was, so, like, halfway through the year, he definitely faded as the season went on because of the touchdowns, really, mostly. but he was like a top 12 guy through like nine games top 13 guy a top 12 guy through nine games so he was a he was a wide receiver won half of the season last season and it's like now obviously people aren't quite buying that and I get it because he did fade as the second half went along but he's kind of got like that locket energy Tyler locket thing where what have you done for me lately type deal like recency bias is kind of going into his ADP I think I agree with you I think there's a chance this offense is better at

scores more points and gives more opportunities to its receivers. So, yeah, I mean, I would not say that Robbie Anderson is a guy I'm targeting a lot, though. I would disagree with you there, but I think he is, he is undervalued. I think maybe we just looked at this slightly differently, if it's. The problem, I think, is just that the Panthers offense was really bad at the Red Zone last year. And Teddy Bridgewater kind of implied that they don't really practice Red Zone, which is concerning. That is bizarre. And the Panthers offense has not been good in the Red Zone of the preseason, which is

upsetting. But if they are better, and again, they were, I think, bottom two, bottom three along with some much worse teams in the category. I mean, Robbie Anderson had almost 1,100 yards last year to three touchdowns. That usually is how it goes. If that increases, it's very easy.

All right, Craig, you got another top target? Yeah, I'm going to combine two. I just like the charges wide receivers, Keenan and Mike Williams. I think they're both set up for the scarcest competition that they've ever had with the best quarterback. Philip Rivers, I know he's great, but I think Herbert has the potential to really lift this offense to go above and beyond with their new coaching staff with Joe Lombardi calling plays and Brandon Staley.

They look to be healthy right now. Knock on wood, the chargers are always hurt, but I think their defense is going to be better. Their offensive line is the best it's ever been. I just like both of these guys. Keenan Allen's had 100 plus catches in three of his last four years. Mike Williams has had is coming off in a thousand-yard season and before that a 10 touchdown season. He's only missed two games in the last three years. I know he plays banged up a lot.

That narrative is dead. I just think there's a lot of ceilings that can be broken from both Mike Williams, who may be more of a boom or bust guy as a flex option. But I just think there's a lot of room for growth between the two of these guys, and they're kind of being priced the same way they were last year. Yeah, I really like it. I love Keenan Allen this year. I'm not sure I'm so much on the Mike Williams train.

I think it's one of those things where it's just the past history. It's like Hyphids had said in the past year. Like he's just kind of gotten us in the past, and it's harder to buy, but Keenan Allen to me is a great one because, you know, they showed instant chemistry. He showed instant chemistry with Herbert. I think Herbert has a chance to make a big second year jump. This is a new offense, potentially could be a little more pass heavy. Last year they were very run heavy at times.

And so we'll have to see how that all kind of shakes out. But like, yeah, there could be more targets to go around. There could be more scoring, more just opportunity for these receivers. And I think, like you said, it's probably going to be funneled to these two guys in the passing game. And so that's like exactly what you're looking for in fantasy. You want boom bus picks late. Like Matthew Berry says it all the time. Like in the first two rounds, you want somebody who's not going to flop. That is what's most important. You want consistency. The late round guys, the guys pass a hundred, you're taking shots. You're throwing

darts at the wall and seeing with sticks. Mike Williams has the potential to kill like 65 catches, 1,200 yards, and 10 touchdowns. You know, he's going 121st. I mean, he's going with guys like Jalen Rager and Jonu Smith and Michael Carter. I think that he is the highest ceiling dart throw in his class in the mid-100s. You'll be on the Mike Williams Island without me. Mike Williams has, in his career, he has a 10 touchdown season in 2018.

He has a 1,000-yard season in 2019. He hasn't combined them. But I think, Craig, your point is definitely true. Like, in terms of the ceiling for guys that late, you know, it's hard to find guy like that has as high of a ceiling. Or honestly, that's had anything on his resume. Because a lot of the time, it's like you're hoping for this big breakout. But Mike Williams, like I said, he has a thousand yards season on his resume.

He has a 10 touchdown season on his resume. So just put him together. He's going to have some week winning weeks, I think, will be involved with Mike Williams. You could take Cole Beasley right around him, but Cole Beasley is going to get you five catches for 50 yards every game. And sometimes that's not going to get you the W. That's not what you want at 1 20th in your draft. FBZZ is available for every game.

Craig, I'm going to get you a flare gun. And when you need to be rescued from Mike Williams Island, shoot the flare gun. we'll send out a search party, we'll come get you. I'm not going to leave you there. I want the video team to get me a meme of like, I'm Tom Hanks and Castaway

and Wilson is Mike Williams. It's like floating away. He's playing like shit and I'm like, Mike Williams! No! I'm sorry! I'm sorry.

I'm apologizing to all the people who drafted him because of me. I'm sorry. It's just the two catches for like 14 yards. All right, well, I'm actually, all right,

so I'm going to tell you someone I would take over Mike Williams. And this sounds great. It's Marvin Jones. Jaguars receiver. I'm, I'm starting to buy this. It's Marvin Jones. This is, I don't, so generally speaking, average draft position is like a really good tell of like the market. Like, it's decently accurate. Obviously,

it's not perfect, but it's actually pretty good tell. I think the biggest mistake is that Marvin Jones has treated as the third receiver. I think he will be the number one receiver for the Jaguars this year. D.G. Chark, Craig and I disagree on this. I don't think Urban Meyer likes DJJRq, to be honest with you. I think Leviska-Sherdall is just too young and too raw to make an impact. Marvin Jones was signed. is a free agent because he's a veteran who knows Darryl Bevel's system. Darryl Bevel's

the offensive coordinator for the Jaguars. Marvin Jones knows the deal. He knows what they want. That's why they brought him in. He's already apparently Trevor Lawrence's favorite target in training camp. He to me is the Jaguars number one receiver and we are all just have been too slow to realize this. He's going to lead the team in a lot of these receiving categories and he's basically being drafted

like 120th. I think you're getting a number one receiver. People like Trevor Lawrence, people just think Marvin Jones is boring. Marvin Jones and Mike Williams are like two peas in a pot. I feel like you could make the exact same arguments here because Marvin Jones has production on his resume. He's obviously older than Mike Williams. And he's decidedly less exciting. I would give Craig that.

There is nothing exciting about watching Marvin Jones and Mike Williams is very fun to watch. Yeah. Do you think DJ Chark is like in the Jags cafeteria like telling a story to his teammates and Urban Myers is in the back like, God, I hate this guy. I'm on pro football reference right now and they have a cool

stat thing that can take a look at a guy's career and then divide it up per 16 games so like his average season not just because he's obviously you miss some games in certain seasons so his average per 16 games over his career 99 targets 60 catches 861 yards and 7 touchdowns that's a pretty good year

that's fine there was so many numbers so 800 plus yards and 7 touchdowns he's averaged per 16 games. Oh, you're helping me. Yes, great. That's what I'm saying, yes. It's like it's per 36 in the NBA. It's kind of like that. You're looking for a hundred target guy in whatever round he's going in? What round is he going in if it's like 12th, 11th? Yeah, 12. And again, everything after the 12th, it's like the Wild West. Yeah. And it's a number one receiver for a team that this isn't like, this isn't like the lines number one receivers.

You know what I mean? Like this is an actual number receiver for a team that people think will be, could be a decent passing offense. I don't hate this. I mean, I think this is a smart pick. This is definitely good. This is sort of like, not hedging. I guess it is kind of hedging. Or you're like, you're betting against DJ Chark. You're shorting Chark with Markham. Not because I don't like DJ Chark because Urban Meyer was like, he plays small. You hate DJ Chark if it's just... You and Urban Meyer have a group text about how much you hate DJ Chark. Well, first of all, it's not a group text if it's two people. It's just a text.

So, yeah, I text Urban Meyer and we just, you know, we send memes about DJ Char. They're going to be flying coach with Danny Hyfitts and Urban Meyer next year. And they're just going to talk shit about DJ Char. You know the Kermit the frog beam where there's like the pile of cocaine and then the vegetables? Yeah. It's like Marvin Jones is the Coke. And then DJ Charks all the vegetables. It's like fuck that.

Also, by the way, I think this may matter. Chanel was mostly playing in only three receiver sets during the preseason so far. And what that means I think is that Marvin Jones could be playing on every down. He could be like an every down guy. More opportunity, more opportunity for targets, more snaps. all that stuff could really just be we could be overrating Chanel and underrating Jones too

in addition to the whole chart thing chart thing all right DK give us another top target all right real quickly TJ Hawkinson I think is a great one I love this I think he's in the next elite tier of tight end very athletic

three down guy ding ding ding ding ding athletic yeah shadow ban that I'm gonna keep saying it because I don't give a shit Jared Goff loves thrown to his slot receiver Big time slot guy. And honestly, there's just no one else in this offense. And I think, you know, we fall in victim to the,

like someone's got to catch passes in this offense thing. But I actually think Hawkinson is good. This is different from other, like the Texans or something. I think Hawkinson is a very good player, top 10 pick. So I think he's going to get a ton of targets and, you know, really just be the guy that is the next tight end to ascend to that elite tier that already includes like Waller, Kittle, Kelsey. I'm not saying he's going to be better than those guys,

but I think he'll be in, he'll be closer to being in that tier next year after this season. I agree. I think Hawkinson reminds you of Darren Waller two years ago

when it was, it was like all those midling tight ends and Darren Waller just establishes himself as elite. Like that's Hawkinson this year. Yeah.

Completely agree. Okay, Craig, top target for us. So speaking of somebody who's going to see a lot of targets, this is strictly, I'm admitting it right now, I'm overreacting to training camp.

Yes. In preseason. I think Corey Davis Oh, I love this, is, going to be the feel of the draft. The guy's going to get 200 targets here this year. Zach Wilson's thrown 20 passes and preseason.

Ten of them have been to Corey Davis. I get that like, well, you know, Elijah Moore, not everyone's playing in every game, but man, does he love throwing the ball to Corey Davis? Every time he drops back, it goes to Corey Davis. He's the cheapest top-wide receiver on a team going in drafts. He's really talented. He almost had 1,000 yards last year.

He's your top five pick in the NFL draft. Maybe he was a bit of a late bloomer, but like, if Zach Will, Wilson is decent, Corey Davis's deal. And if Zach Wilson is really good, Corey Davis is going to be like a fucking top 15 wide receiver. Hyfit said it best like literally 10 minutes ago. Like these players have the jet stink on them.

I think if this was a different franchise, you know, with a really exciting rookie quarterback and Zach Wilson coming in, he's looked really solid so far. I mean, he was basically more or less perfect in this last preseason game. Zach Wilson was like he looked really, really strong, sharp. I think if this was like, say,

the Patriots or something, were you having Mac Jones and he's playing really well? People would be much more excited because there's that history of success. And I think that makes Corey Davis a really good value. I think he's going to outplay his ADP by far. And my last guy, and I'm just going to kind of piggyback on this, but it's Elijah Moore. And this is not me saying that don't take Corey Davis because I think that they both could potentially be really good values on where they're being taken. I think Elijah Moore, he was the training camp superstar before he got hurt.

I think he heard his quad, and it's not like a serious injury, and he's close to coming back, but he basically all the beat reporters were saying, I saw Connor Hughes say this from The Athletic, he was like, basically every practice I go in trying to focus on someone else, and Elijah Moore just steals the show every practice.

And that was how good he was playing, how well he was playing in the training camp sessions, and then he's kind of falling off the radar a little bit for some people, not a lot, but like a little, because he has missed the first two preseason games. but I think both of these guys I think the Jets' offense is going to be more efficient than we're expecting it to be because it's a new

offense, it's like the Shanahan style thing, a lot of play action. I think Zach Wilson's going to be a huge, huge upgrade for this offense. And these are going to be the two guys in this passing game in my mind. So I think, yeah. Something else to consider here is that, so the Jets signed Carl Austin,

the defense event and free agency this year, and was going to be amazing. And he just tore his Achilles. That Jets defense is going to be horrible. like the Jets, the cornerback situation for the Jets might be among the worst in the entire NFL. And I think the plan that the Jets had was to have a better pass rush to make all the cornerbacks like, you know, a good pass rush lifts all boats for the cornerbacks. Now that they have a bad pass rush and a bad secondary, that defense very easily might

be the worst in the non-Huston division, which means that Jack Wilson's going to have to throw all the time. Maybe Zach Wilson should be on this list, by the way, too, because he, I think he is number one. He's looked very sharp in preseason. And like Heffitz, you're saying, they might have to pass a lot. You know, they might have to, like, let things loose a little bit. That could lead to fantasy points. Even if he's not super, super efficient, you know, if he throws a few picks here and there,

he's still going to be like the Blake Bordles corollary where, you know, you're throwing it enough. You're scrambling enough to make yourself a really good value in fantasy. I'm not saying he's Blake Bortles, by the way. I'm just saying he might not be the most efficient rookie quarterback, but I think it won't matter because he'll be scoring fantasy points. So he's Blake Bortals. He's not like Bortles. I'm not saying that.

So you said he's Blake Bortles? Don't do a Twitter breakout where it just tells me, it shows me like comparing him to Blake Bortals. I don't think that. I think D.K. just, well,

don't do it. If you ask the internet not have to do something, they do it. That's just really good to do it. That is true. Yeah. It's a really,

really 101 mistake from DK. Okay. Craig. Last top target. Yeah, it's Antonio Brown. The guy who may go down is the greatest wide receiver to ever play football.

maybe the top three. Ever since he joined the Bucks in week eight last year, he was the wide receiver 21. I know that's not that crazy, but that's a starting wide receiver two on your team. But more importantly, over the final half of the season, he saw one less target than Mike Evans

and four more than Chris Godwin. Like, he is entrenched in this offense as a focal point for Tom Brady, his roommate, and now he has a full off season with the Buccaneers. I think he is clearly shown he has a lot left in the tank. I think he's criminally underrated.

this this season and is an awesome flex pick which is what you could get him at. Didn't love that pun. Right.

Not the best pun, criminally underrated. But he is very underrated. Yeah, I got you. I got you. Yeah, on the field only

for Antonio and me. But I think he's an awesome value this year. I really do. I agree with this. Yeah. I think, you want

a piece of the the Buccaneers passing offense. I think it's going to be much more efficient than it was last year. Like, look at how good they were

down the stretch. And you could probably say, they're going to pick up, you know, where they left off last year, I think just based on continuity. Okay. So you guys have your lists. You can only get one of the players on your top target list.

It's at their value. It's not like they're all equal. You can only pick one. Who is the guy that you're like, I need to have this guy? For me, it's lamb. Even though it's the worst value in this whole group probably. Literally. It's just fun.

Honestly, I just want CD Lamb on my teams. That's all I don't know. I just think he's going to be really good. I think he's going to put up tons of numbers, and he's just fun to watch. Correct. Mine is Tyler Higby, I think. I love going late, tight end every single year,

and if one of them can actually pan out like I think they're going to be, I think that gives you, like, the best odds of having a really good fantasy season. So if I can take Higby in the 100 and whatever pick and he turns out to be like a top five guy, that's who I want. I think for me it's Naja Harris.

I just feel so strongly that, that's a good one from now, we're talking about Naja Harris is a top five running back. Craig had this great point earlier this year that there's probably a changing of the guard of the quote unquote top running backs next year. I just feel so strongly,

Nasha Harris is part of that and I just don't want to overthink it. Also, my girlfriend's from Pittsburgh, so that seems like a good idea. A real yinzer. You have to also think about, you know, it's a holistic world view here. It's not life, it's not just a giant value squeeze.

But then also, I just, he's also fun. Like, it's an underrated part. Like, I want to follow Naja Harris on Instagram and Twitter. And he has YouTube. channel and be like, yeah, that's my guy. Like, he's an entertaining guy. He's going to be leaping over defenders like nobody's business this year. Just wait.

Real fun guy. In the words of Kauai Leonard, I'm a fun guy. You guys remember that? I feel like half the Kauai Leonard's stories are fake and half or not and I can't keep track. That wasn't a story. It was a press conference and they asked him about his personality and he was like, I'm a fun guy. By the way,

this is not meant as a brag, but I want the listeners to know, Craig finally got his Kwai Leonard jersey, San Diego State. We ordered a new one, hyphids, and I did for Craig's birthday. It's a really nice jersey. Thank you, guys.

It's a really high quality. The other one's lost in the ether somewhere in the mail, but, you know, this one finally did arrive. Looks great. It's got that Jordan, it's like the Jordan brand color way that SDSU uses sometimes. Looks really nice.

Everyone knows the Jordan brand color way that SDSA uses. Everyone knows exactly what we're talking about. What are SDS used colors? Like maroon? Scarlet and Black. Scarlet. We knew that.

Definitely. Definitely knew that. We're going to buy everyone who listens to this podcast, especially Kaua Lena, Jersey for your alma matter, too. So congratulations to everyone on that. Thank you, Craig.

Thank you, D.K. Thank you to everyone. Go to fantasyf football. Dot the mirror.com. You can see our whole list of top targets and our rankings and tiers and everything else you want there. You could also do draft checker mode.

Thank you for listening. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Biggie Smalls. Oh. I don't know. I don't know if I've done that one. Great 60 songs that explains the 90s episode. There we go. On, uh, Juicy from Biggie. Check that out. Thank you, everyone.