The Ringer NFL Show - Our Sleepers and Top Targets for 2025

Episode Date: August 22, 2025

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Ringer Fantasy Football Show, my name is Danny Hyford. Today I've joined in person in Los Angeles. Different coast. Different place. Joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck, we are going to go through a bunch of stuff. We're going to go through sleepers. The keys to picking sleepers. We're going to have Bill Simmons on.

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But first, we're going to go. through and just do sleepers. And we're going to give, frankly, the most sleepers, the most names you've ever gone through in a single episode, probably. So I'm actually very excited to go through and explain what we're doing. But first, we're going to take a quick break. London is eight hours ahead, by the way. That's what I said.

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Okay, we're going to go through and we're going to pick our sleepers this year. We're going to do it a really fun way, which is, I think the key that we're going to focus on in this episode is, as Craig, as you eloquently put it to us yesterday, picking the tight end, the 12th tight end off the board and then finishing as the 10th tight end off the board is cool, but like, it doesn't actually mean anything. It's going to win you your league to have a little bit of value at tight end. No, the point of a sleeper is to make an impact, a real impact. If you pick the wide receiver 45 and we tell you all the reasons why he's going to be great, and then he ends up finishing as

the wide receiver 32, that's a good pick, great return on investment. It helped your team. It's not going to be a narrative of why you won the season. You're not going to be texting, oh my God, can you believe I got whoever DeMario Douglas and he returned you know, he finished 10 spots higher than I drafted him? That's a good pick but we're not, we're looking for guys who can actually make a significant

impact, the Bucky Irvings. The stories of the season, right? Yeah. And you want to mix solid players who could have a solid return, David Montgomery, if you will, with these kinds of players because the players who win you, like last year you won your league if you had a Bucky Irving, you know, probably maybe picked up off waivers or

drafted really late. You win your league if you have a Brian Thomas from the Jaguars who ends up as like a top 10 guy who ends up being one of the best receivers in all fantasy during the fantasy playoffs. And you drafted him 10th. And so maybe you could get Sequin and like a Jonathan Taylor really early. And then you have Brian Thomas. So you end up with this elite roster and you actually have a better receiver down late than the people took a receiver in the second round. Like that's how it happens. So we're going to go through and we're going to basically talk about again, there's only really about 15 fantasy players that like truly matter during the season. Everyone else is kind of replaceable.

And I do want to just stay on that topic for one moment. Scott Barrett at Fantasy Points had this great article. He talks about upside is everything. And one of the things he breaks down, just to really hammer this in people's minds, the difference between like in points per game between like the 10th best tight end and the 20th best tight end is very little.

It's like a point and a half, two points a game. It depends on exactly the season. But the range between like the number 29 receiver and the number 41 receiver. Like sometimes we over index on the ranking of that sounds like a lot, the number 30 and number 40 receiver. But in points per game, it's not. Right. Like, it's about the curve. Like, what's the actual

difference and what you're leaving on the table? So, we're going to go through and we're going to basically try to, can we try to identify people that basically we feel like that we really like them at the cost of where you have to get them in drafts because these players have a chance to hit big. Some of them are a big miss, big hit.

Some of them are small miss, big hit. But these are guys we think you might look back on and be like, wow, I won my league because of four or five picks, and this could be one of the four or five picks. Yeah, and they don't always, these guys don't necessarily have to be like round 12 guys or later. If we feel like Alvin Camara has a legit shot to be like the RB5 this year, he'll be included in this list.

Because if that does happen, he'll be one of the reasons why you won your league. And so the other way we're going to do this is we're going to do it, if you've ever seen the Seinfeld episode where George tries to break up with, I didn't realize it was Anna Gun for Breaking Bad. And he's like, we're breaking up. And she's like, nope, nope, it's like a nuclear submarine. I do not. I do not accept this.

Yeah, it takes two to tango. Turn your key, Maura. Turn your key. So we're going to all do turn the keys on these sleepers. And I would suggest us. I think it has to be. Unanimous. Unanimous, but we're not going to, it's not going to be like,

oh, DK, come on, turn the key. And you're like, fine, fuck it. Like, no, you need to feel good about this player. Like, I always think of it as if a friend of yours was on the clock, tick, tick, tick, and then they like look at your guide or whatever, and they, like, get the player. And you're like, oh, yeah, take that guy. Like, you want to feel good about it.

And if you have to really, like, we can talk about it, but we're not going to, we can make the case, but we're not trying to necessarily change people's minds. We're just going to make the case. So we're going to leave today with like the ringer fantasy football show sleepers that all three of us have decided on collectively for each player. And so we're also going to go through. And the other thing, because I really do think at this time of year,

if you're listening to this show, you kind of want names, names, names, names, names, and so here's what we're going to do. That's a little different than how we usually do it. If we all agree on a guy, we're not going to talk, about. Like, not like go deep into it. For example, just to pick a name, Buccaneers receiver, Emeka Abuka,

rookie, the Hansel, so hot right now, Emekaabuka. There were all these reasons we could go through about Abuka that we all love him. He's the most popular rookie receiver, like he's in Preston Camp. We're all going to just turn the key on him and we're going to move on.

And I think for everyone listening, it's a little different than I would usually do it. But the point is, we are all just like turning the key and yeah, you should take him at cost. So we're doing that right now. We're turning the key on Abuka. Yeah, but that's a good example. It's like, hey.

I'm not kabooka he should be on our list like he should be sleeper he can win your late turnkey and then we're going to move on we're not going to and here's the thing if we do belabor the point on the guys we all unanimously agree on this show's going to be like four hours so we have to keep each other accountable and not waxing poetic about all these guys guys so with that said we're going to go position by position vaguely in the order that we're from the beginning to the end of the draft how highly they're ranked yeah and to remind you fantasy football dot the rear dot the com we have our rankings we're going to have a big update for you guys coming right before this is one of the biggest will probably the biggest draft weekend of the entire year like you know know, the next two weekends. And so, yeah, that's all coming. So I want to start with running back. And I actually want to do something I've never done. But I however, to this vein of, you look back, you're like, oh, that's how I won my league. I've never had a first round player ever entered my mind.

But I would like to nominate Christian McCaffrey for the 49ers because Christian McCaffrey is probably the best fantasy football player of the last 15 years. And you can get him like eighth or tenth. And there's never, I don't know if there's ever been a value like that. since I've been a professional of the best player since Ladani and Tomlinson might just be the 10th pick in the draft. And I understand, I'm not going to,

you got, everyone knows the deal. Like, and my case is very simple. I turn the key on Christian McCaffrey and it's very simple. Yes, he could get hurt, bilateral kill his tendonitis. It's simply, if he doesn't get hurt, I think he will be literally

the number one player in fantasy football and I'm turning my key in Christian and Caffrey. You guys know the deal. You hesitating. That's the answer. Yeah, it's funny to consider this a sleeper, I think. That's just where I'm kind of getting hung up. Right, but it's this new definition that we're applying to these types of players.

It's a story of the season. It's hard to put Chikori-Krosky-Mirrit and McCaffrey in the same conversation, but it's like if you got McCaffrey 10th and McAfrey plays 17 games and is normal like two years ago. His ADP right now is seventh. My only pushback is if he was going in the second round, I think I would wholeheartedly be like absolutely turn the key. But I'm like, he's going like five spots later than he would have if he was healthy, which is not that far.

But can I ask you a stupid question? What's the difference between getting him at the ninth pick or the 14th pick? Because honestly... You get another player. That's a different player you got ahead of it. This is why I ask. What's the player you get at 9

that you can't necessarily get at 14? Because it depends. You're not doing that thing where... It's neighbors are Nico Collins, but like... He keeps saying 9 or 10. He's going like 7th. Okay, fine, fair. But I guess my point is I was shocked,

but I just did the oldest league I'm in. Nico Collins just went like 16th. I couldn't believe it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, like, E. Colons, you could also take him eighth. I'm like, the receivers at the back half of the first round are so flat that you take McCaffrey's seventh.

You might get the same guy you would have to, like, it's so personal preference. You were like, these are the players where if you recommend them to somebody it doesn't work out, you won't feel bad about it. Right. Okay. And McAfree, if you're like, yeah, McCaffrey's there at seven, do it. And then he turns his Achilles. Yeah, are you going to be like, I don't feel bad about telling you to do that. That made sense in my mind.

I think that the answer is if we have to talk about it this long, it's not a turnkey. All right, he's not one of my guys. I'm willing to draft him and I like him this year. Like I think the upside is worth it, but for what this is? But you recognize the risk is pretty significant. Matthew Berry has a rule that's like you can't win your first round, you league in your first round. You can lose it.

And so I'm torn between. I think he's gone with him. Yeah, on one hand, well, if he plays, it's not. It's tempting the gods to be like, oh, I can win my league in the first round. But yeah, all right, he's not a turnkey guy. Next guy here, Chase Brown for the Cincinnati Bengals, the running back. I turnkey on Chase Brown. Yeah.

I mean, I feel pretty confident, yeah. I want all the Bengals, honestly. Yeah. Everyone says he's going to have a smash season. Okay, so we're not going to talk about Chase Brown. And unanimous, Chase Brown's unanimous. We think Chase Brown, if you can get him roughly in the ranking. You can get him in the third round.

We think he could be a first rounder. And there's almost no competition for him. The only thing is. So the league I'm doing, it's a slow draft. I was, because it's like, you know, he's ranked to like 20th on a lot of platforms. Someone took him 14th. You still like that there? It was like their first pick of the second round.

or that's why he's like the third pick of the second round obviously I think the value starts to diminish I still like him there I just think he's gonna be good yeah he's a turnkey for me I mean he'd be of top five right back first part of the second round is now we're like we're like at Nico Collins and Brian Thomas which is like obviously that's a stiffer competition

but I think like mid-late second round yeah for sure all right DK you put to you sent you guys sent me your list before that I kind of organized in my position but DKie you put down Josh Jacobs to the Packers which we have no I think I wanted to throw him out there because I feel like he's been one of the most under-discussed guys, period, on this podcast. I don't know if we've actually talked about him one time.

Well, we've never talked about him ever. I've never told him to say anything about just. We haven't talked about this season. I've never talked about this off-season. He was the RB8 last year. The offense was top 10 offense in terms of scoring. And that was with Jordan Love having a, I mean, not disastrous, but a pretty tough season from the injury point of view.

And just getting back, the Packers ended up, I think, not reaching their potential because there were so many issues with the quarterback. I think this year, like a fully operational, like, that thing's fully operational. If they could get, if they can stay healthy,

Packers, and Jordan Love is healthy. I think it's going to create even more opportunities for Josh Jacobs. And again, he doesn't have hardly any true competition right now. Marshawn Lloyd, while he is flashed,

he again hurt his hamstring. The hamstring has been really bugging him. I don't know if he can stay healthy this year. The backups, you know, there's a couple guys, Manuel Wilson, uh,

Chris, Brooks. Am I getting that name right? Yeah. And I think it's just, it's going to be his show again on an offense that I think is going to score more points. That's a good case. To me, that's why he's ranked in the second round. But I'm not turning my key as like, I think Josh Jacobs is a woman in your league.

I think I agree. Did that one time. I agree with Dick, God damn it. I know, I agree with Hyphitz. I think what's nice about Josh Jacobs is he's kind of like Mike Evans or he's like, he's the best floor play you can pick. Yeah. He will deliver you a strong season.

But I don't know if I think. think he has the chance to be the story. Jacobs is a stand-up double. Compared to where you have to take him, which is like early mid-second round, I think there are guys going in the third, fourth, fifth, that I think have an equal chance

to being the RB1. I think Jacobs is a double. He's not a home run. And it's just a matter of whether he's a top-five running back or not. It's just, does he stay healthy in a year while other running backs get hurt? But I don't necessarily think of him

as he's going to be a home-run. But watch him be, I've been wrong before. Well, he's another, but it's like, he's going like mid-second round. I think we're not turning keep. He's not cheap. We're not turning key. Okay, next guy here.

Otherwise, it's going to take forever. Chuba Hubbard for the Panthers. I'm telling you right now I'm not turning my key on him. I think that he's the same player. He's on base, but I don't, I'm not turning key on Chubba. Who put him? I don't know. All right, moving on.

All right. Omerian Hampton for the Chargers. Yeah, I put him. Nodgy Harris has his eye injury. He might not play. Noggi Harris's career might be significantly altered. I just think Omerian Hampton is a freak. And I think there's like, you know,

the week one test we always talk about, there is a chance that he gets 21 carries in week one and he just looks like... He looks like Jonathan Taylor, and we're like, all right. I think... This guy's fantastic. Sometimes fantasy rankings are affected by just best ball average draft position, which is weighted, depending on the platform of how many... Sometimes it's like two weeks,

sometimes it's like the last four months. If the Chargers had never signed Najjaris, because it is kind of, to me, like, he's not on the team almost. Like, unfortunately, I feel bad, but we might as well act like, Najahar's not... He's on a new team and he hasn't practiced with him. If Omerian Hampton had been drafted by the Chargers, and the only people behind him were Hassan Haskins and Tammani Vidal.

Omerian Hampton would probably just, his ADP, would have been as a top 20 player. And the fact you can get him later, I actually think is a quirk. Yeah, the Noggi thing kind of set him low, and he's been like having to climb slowly. But I think people were anchored to the initial ranking of seeing where he was with Naji Harris on the team. I'm turning key on Hampton because there's risk with all the rookies. But Hampton is the, to your point, week one, like, literally if he runs for 150 yards in week one, we're like, oh, yeah. Would you be surprised at the end of the season where, like, Omerian Hampton is one of the three or four best running backs in the NFL. No.

Turning key. You turning key? I absolutely will turn in this one. I love this. And again, I'm actually surprised just looking at the fantasy pros ADP right now. He's RB 15. He's on the fourth round. That's wild to me. Yeah. He is, I mean, yeah, like on this team with that offensive line, with this coaching style, with, you know, with Justin Herbert. I know the Greg Roman, like, he always has two running backs thing.

I'm like, yeah, they got a son Haskins and there's not a lot there. We turnkeys. We get it. This is like a nun. I'm just saying. He's slapping my wrist. I need a ruler. Jesus. Broncos running back R.J. Harvey. Yeah, baby.

Hop on board. Come on. That's your argument. That's it. Come on. Come on. You want me to hit you with some stats or no? Yeah.

Hit me. I need the stats. Okay. Sean Payton's teams have never ranked lower than six in running back target share. RJ Harvey is the fourth running back that Sean Payton has ever taken in the draft in the first two rounds. The others are Reggie Bush, Mark Ingram, and Alvin Camara. Reggie Bush and Alvin Camara saw over 100 targets as rookies, which no running back of any age has done in either of the past two seasons.

The thing when I hear that is I'm like that Saints team at the best worst defense I've ever seen and the Broncos is going to have the best defense of the NFL. It's my only thing I think about. Let me sprinkle a little more for you. Running back targets are actually completely on the way down. It's something we don't really think about anymore. It used to be guys like Matt Forte would just get 100 catches and that was a part of the thing. Now this year,

or the last few years, running backs had the lowest targets here in any season since targets were tracked last year in 2024. They've had the fewest targets to running back since 2008. last year. The running backs had the fewest catches since 2012 last year. Only one running back had 70 catches last year for the first time since 2010. So to me, that just means the guys who will catch passes are even more valuable. And sure, you can say the rookie, the J.K. Dobbins, all that stuff. If you can just make a dart throw at the Sean Payton running back that has a chance to be like the only guy in the NFL who has more than 70 catches this year, I think you have to

take that risk. You didn't mention the number one. Because here's like, my fear is that you're right about every single thing. My fear and my hesitancy is the thing, everything you just said comes true, but just like year two or three. Yeah, that's totally there. Because past catching for rookie running backs is hard. Well, but my whole point was that looking at Reggie Bush

and Alvin Kamarin, what they did as rookies. But you left, you forgot to me the biggest argument for Harvey and the reason I will turn by key. The guy had him as J.K. Dobbins. And, I mean, he had a new reconstruction five years ago and then he tours Achilles. And I'm like, JK Dobbins. He broke down the second half of last year.

You could, I mean, you could just take J.K. Dobbins and Harvey and then just wait for Dobbins. to get hurt and then one stop is like Harvey's going to play. So I, I understand that it's probably more likely that obviously year two, he's a better shot of being great than year one. But I do think he's a real like second half of the year guy that starts to become one of the most important players in your team. DK?

Well, I mean, look, I feel like I'm Denzo Washington and Crimson Tide right now. I'm just trying to hold my ground. However. You could say no. You do not have, this is not your ship. What is it? Damn it. I don't know exactly.

It's a cool, but I don't remember what it is. Yeah, it's a great movie. We did a rewatchable on it. That's a great movie. Okay, next one. Wait, wait, he hasn't decided. He just decided. He just decided for me.

I feel like. I've seen the movie. I kind of know what that goes. No, I know. I said I feel like that. I didn't say I made the decision yet. So, D.K.'s even just thinking about it, that means no.

Dude, wait, Crimson Todd. He's like, you know, in Portugal, they got the horses. Make them dance. Just a matter of electrodes. They know, they shove a rod up their ass. Just a matter of voltage. I don't know what to do here Because I feel like it would go against

Everything I've said this preseason Yeah, don't let us bully you in there Even though I do like the value I'm not gonna turn my key Okay, all right It sucks I do like him, I do like him I do like him a lot before the drafts

I was relieved because I feel like I bitched out And turn my key I don't really stand out of it's fine I just think Harvey I'm just worried about Harvey gonna be bad in like the first three weeks And then you're like you could trade for him for cheaper Like two weeks in the season I'm not saying don't draft him

The whole like you could just trade for him to me It's such an insane argument That's so hard to do Like maybe not trade but it just You just go get him Yeah. Instant regret more. Maybe it's just more like three weeks in. You're going to be like, hold on.

And you're like, I wonder maybe. Trayvon Henderson for the Patriots. The juice is astounding. I was going to turn my key. Undenay, the most juice. I'm without even saying anymore, I'm turning my key. My only issue is I feel like he, I feel like he's so.

I feel like Trevin Henderson was a player you get in the sixth round 10 days ago. Yep. And now I feel like Trayvon Henderson is a player you have to take in the fourth round. I think, my God. I think this year more than, any I can think of, rookies are being appropriately ranked. Guys like Abuca, Matthew Golden, none of these guys

are like hidden gems anymore. They're all going kind of at their, not their ceiling, but kind of towards it. So you're right. Hyfit's like, yeah, he's the RB 22 now, which is kind of like, probably should, would have been the RB 38, five years ago. But it's like, you know,

but he's right, he's right next to RJF Harvey. You know what, I'll turn my key in Henderson and like the same way we saw Bowenix last year come in and he played a lot of football. He was good. Henderson, I just think, played enough at Ohio State. And long term, maybe that's an ick for like a player to have a lot of touches in college, but in terms of producing immediately, there's a reason

a guy, like, who didn't have the much experience? Like a Trey Benson, I feel like, you didn't have a ton of work in college, right? I guess, I mean, he did, but like Henderson... I know you're saying, though, yeah. Like, Henderson just is such an adult and frankly... Henderson's rookie year, he had 12-100... Freshman year in college, he had 1,500 yards and 15 touchdown. Turning my key for the simple reason.

Trayvian Henderson is a new kind of player that, frankly, because of NIL, most players with Trayvian Henderson's skill set do not get the extra season at college that he did. So he has more experience and talent than most rookie running backs coming in. And so I do think I have a larger role, so I will turn Mikey and Trayvon Anderson. The past protection stuff with him already sounds promising,

which is a big deal. I think even if we're splitting hairs here, like he's more expensive now than he was a few weeks ago. If you look at some of the guys he's going around, there's a lot of question marks here. Cortland Sutton, Devante Smith, Sam Leporta, Rishie Rice, Xavier Worthy, Zay Flowers.

Last week, we did our rules to win your league. I think our first or second rule was draft the guys you like. On good players. Yeah, draft good players, draft the guys you like. Us being like, well, I don't know if the value's quite there. It's like that is not how you like him. I'll turn the key. He's awesome.

Tony Pollard for the Titans. Yeah. Boring player, not exactly. Yes. Formerly our exciting player, which... That's kind of my point is what Tony Pollard was two years ago was kind of like this Energizer Bunny, lightning in a bottle.

holy shit, broke his leg, went to the Titans, was fine last year. He basically just didn't score enough touchdowns to be super relevant. He ran for a thousand yards. The team was a mess. He was the RB 22 last year. I'm kind of making the same case I'm making for Calvin Redley for Tony Pollard. Last year, Tony Pollard finished the season as the RB 22. This year, he is being ranked as the RB 24, which is, I understand rookies come in.

There are guys like Gentine O'Marying that push you down a little bit. But the Tajay Spears competition thing. He's injured. He's got a high ankle sprain. The guy's been injured a lot. You look at what Tennessee's starting to look like this offseason. Kim Ward seems to be like the real deal. I don't know if he'll pop immediately, but he seems to be like a real deal.

The offensive line looks good. Yeah. Tony Pollard's going to be like the guy in this offense. The four games that Spears missed last year, Pollard averaged 100 rushing yards per game, which was the RB15. I do think that there is a chance. He might fall into like he's a good pick, but he's not a story of the season pick. So I'm actually okay with that.

I just kind of wanted to talk it out with you guys. I agree with everything you're saying. I kind of wonder if Pollard is the best player I don't want on this list. Because I agree with everything. I don't know if he's like, I don't know if he could be Bucking Irving. But I think he could. Well, the flips, I think the argument is you just made it, which is, do you remember when we kept joking that Tony Pollard was like the best player in the NFL,

like three years ago? And now he says he's fully healthy and the line's like way better. And it's underrated boring franchise with a quarterback upgrade, an offensive line upgrade, and a running back who says he's healthier because it's not the year after the year after anymore. and then it is a perfect storm. So I... You know what?

I will turn my can Tony Pollard. I think he's a really good. I think he's a good value. But the one thing I'll say, maybe I'm talking about both sides of my mouth. I think he's a good example of a player that can fall and I do want to get later. I don't want to reach for Tony Pollard.

I don't even think we talked about him in the boring episode. Can you guys think of any... But he shouldn't be boring. Can you think of any running backs from last year who are big-time difference makers on mediocre to bat off That's a good point.

Like big time. Yeah, you know, D.K.'s, I don't, I'm unturning the key for Pollard. I don't, I like Pollard. Actually, Craig, your arguments here have been really good as like, I think he's a very, he could be a very good value. Yes. But in terms of a guy who's going to be one of the reasons you won your league, I'm not sure I can get there just because we don't know.

I think it's too big of a leap for me to say that the Titans' offense is going to be awesome. To D.K.'s point, Pollard, I think, is you win your league when you hit a Brian Thomas from last year. and then your other ones are Tony Pollard where you're like, you drafted him in the seventh round and if you could do it again,

he should have gone in the fifth. And he's the epitome of like, he's going two rounds too late. Unless he catches like 60 passes. I think it's more likely that he's just like becomes a great pick this year. Not a league winning pick, but a great pick.

Yes, I agree with that. But we're not turning a kid. He's not a lead changing. But we do like him. Yeah, I'm like looking at running backs from last year. Like Alvin Camara, you could argue. But he wasn't like a league winner.

Oh, fuck. I love Pollard though. I mean, it's funny. We like Chuba Hubbard. Next one here I just put all the Jaguars running back together is Travis UTN,

Tank Bigsby, and Basial Tutton. I think we're all like, we're all on a different guy. I like Tank Bigsby, but I also like Tutin. Seems like that should be

immediately exclude this. Wait, can we turn, can we turn key right now that Tank Bigsby is going to be the lead running back in this backfield?

Do we all feel that way? I do, personally. Upsidewise. I think he'll be the lead back. I don't know if he'll be the most valuable fantasy back in this backfield.

What does that mean? He's not going to catch any passes. Okay, so you think it's... And maybe he won't score that many touchdowns. Like, in other words, he might have the lead role, but the not as valuable role. In terms of where he's going, I'm turning Kandank Big Speed

because I think he's the best shot to be Bucky every year I think so too. Can we turn Kee on all of the Jaguars running backs? I'm not turning Kian-Eat-N. I'm turning Kantank and Bachel Tudin. I think I would turn Kian on all three. Bachel Tudin's Kirkland-Brand, from his H-N's rookie year.

I'm not saying he's that, but to me. What Liam Cohen did for the Bucks last year, what he did to Rashad White and Bucky Irving. What people don't realize is Bucky Irving took off last year. Total points per game. Bucky Irving last year, RB20. Rashad Wright, RB21. I don't, people would probably assume Rashad White didn't even play football last year based on what Buckingervyn. But to me, that's the epitome of what you said where it's like, I don't care that.

Rashad White finished RB20, but it doesn't matter. Like, if you had, what I'm saying is if I had to pick somebody to be Bucky Irving, it's a tank big. Yes. Which is, I guess that is the exercise we're doing today. However, I just throw in outside of this exercise that I think Travis E.TN has the chance to be kind of the Rashad White, like quietly just a top 20 running back and both of them are good. Yeah, that's fair. They use a lot of two back things. I don't think I can turn my key on any of the Jags right now.

I get it. I just, I like taking a shot on them, but I don't feel with, like, in my chest that they're going to be. You don't think Tank has a shot to beat Bucky Irving this year? No. Okay. I mean, I don't think that. We're not turning key. I don't feel it strongly, I'll put it that way.

Here's a guy I'm mega turning key on. Zach Charbonnet for the Seahawks. I think he's the epitome of this exercise, and I think he, to me, clarifies the difference between what we've talked about. Zach Charbonne is a guy that big, hit, small, miss. Zach Sharbonne is like a top 100 pick. You can get him if you're in 10-team league is the 10th round,

you can divide 100 by 12. Like, Zach Charbonnet is a later round, middle-round pick, whatever you want to call it. And if Ken Walker for the Seahawks stays and plays all the whole season, Jack Charbonnet is going to be like flex play like you can play him. And if Ken Walker already has a foot injury again, misses any time, I think Zach Charbonnet and his Seahawks offense could be better. Zach Sharboni is straight up like maybe a top seven, top eight running back.

He's a league winner. He basically was last year. When Kenneth Walker missed that month, Charbonnet was a top ten back. I think Sharbonne is a league winner. He's, yeah, he has the expression is flex with benefits or whatever. Like he could end up being a guy that you could start as a flex in games where Kenneth Walker is playing. But then the upside there, I'll turn the key on that.

Turn key. Turned Kianzak Sharbonne. I love Charbonnet. I mean, he's looked outstanding. The Seahawks' offensive line has looked so much better in the preseason. I know it's the preseason, and things can definitely change. And guys can get hurt, but I don't know. I'm starting to buy the Seahawks hype, and especially in the run game.

Sharbonet clarifies this exercise to me. He's way on a different, like, level stylistically than some of these other guys because he's like more of a contingent thing. But he has the opportunity. He might be the best handcuffed in all the fantasy football right now. This guy we have to talk about for a second. Chikori Kroski Merritt for Washington. I think we can all turn key, right?

I mean, so, Dika, can you just give the basic, one, who the hell is Chikori Cross America, aka Bill? He goes by Bill. Bill is the best. We need to give the- Bill Crosky. He's the biggest story that we haven't talked enough about is Bill Merritt. Bill Crosky Merit. We haven't talked about it a lot because I, throughout the last couple of weeks, I've just been a little dubious that this is a real thing, but I'm no longer that way.

I think it is a real thing. Brian Robinson is basically getting traded. or maybe even released. From the commanders. It seems like Bill Merritt beat Brian Robinson out there like it better. Robinson was excused from practice on Wednesday. Dan Quinn more or less, he didn't confirm,

but he basically, you know, more or less confirmed, read between the lines that they're looking to trade him, they're looking to go in a different direction. Robinson was in the last year of their deal. They're looking to get some value from him now, I think on the trade market.

There are some teams that are calling. So it's looking pretty like Jacari-Crossi-Marit, A.k.a. Bill. He goes by Bill. His family calls him Bill is a bit. Right. He's not, no part of his name's William or Bill or anything. Oh, really? Oh, his name's Jekori Kroski Merritt.

He's like a nickname when he was a kid. And there's so many syllables, they just kind of were like, call him Bill. And it just stuck. It's a bit. It's literally a joke from me. He was like two years old. And he's called him Bill. And he goes by it.

His college, like, timeline is very interesting. He started out of a zero star recruit. Went to Alabama State. This is the, this is the least likely story I've ever heard for rookie starting running back ever. Right. Transfer to New Mexico after one year at Alabama. State transferred to Arizona after one year there. He put up big numbers at New Mexico.

And then he flipped to Ole Miss. Only played one game last year because of NCAA eligibility issues. Something with like his number. It was a clerical issue. This is not, it's like you see eligibility issues. You're like, oh, it's like he smoked pot or Terrell Pryor like the free tattoos. Nothing like that. He gave, I forget the exact story, but he gave his number to someone else to play for a game

because it was like a gesture of some kind. And then because his number had been used and something, they were like, You can't play this year because it was literally like a jersey swappers. If somebody else is on the field with your number, you can no longer use that number. It's just some bureaucratic thing. Anyway, it was literally red tape paperwork. They're like, by the way, you can't play this year. So we just stayed on the team and he was like, it is, and again, a zero star guy who then a paperwork issue, he did not play last year.

And then now it goes so late, so, so, so deep in the draft. And then now it's like he's beating out Brian Robinson. Before the starting job, maybe in week one, we think. He's looked very good in the preseason action. He's like got a lot of juice as a runner. He ran a 4-4-5. He got a 41-inch vert. So obviously there's tons of explosiveness there.

And the other thing is the team that just doesn't have a lot of competition, especially if Brandt Robinson gets traded. Chris Rodriguez, Jeremy McNichols, I think those guys. Austin Eckler. Sorry, I found it. Austin Eckler is like a change of pace, yeah. This is Google Gemini. So I wish I'd found it before the show.

But the story allegedly is not per Gemini, that basically when he was at Alabama State, his freshman year, he redshirted, and then he, like, another guy in the team, I think, wanted the jersey for some, so he gave him the 21. So then technically,

they found out later when he was going to play that last year of eligibility, they were like, wait, like the red shirt. Like, played. You already did play. I guess it's tied to the fucking jersey. Yeah.

So they're like, well, your eligibility was used or whatever. Like the number 21 played last year. Oh my God. So they're like, you don't actually have this year of eligibility, like you are not on the team. Like, which is like the dumbest thing I've ever heard. But anyway.

So it reminds me to say howie Roseman said about just basically do we believe this story or not. Harry Roseman, the Eagles GM was talking about like, you know, they're finding Jason Kelsey in the six round or whatever. And it's like when you're on day three of the draft, round six, round seven, it's like you should be looking for outliers. Like if you're looking the typical way you look, there's a reason 32 teams passed on these guys six times. There should be one glaring thing about these guys that obviously is not a typical profile. That's why he fell. Like he was a good player. It's like, oh, well, he didn't play because of a clerical error.

there's nothing wrong with the player. It's just weird to use a day one or day two pick on someone. Who didn't play. He played like one game. Right. And so I, this is, I think it's legit. I'm not, now again, the secret's kind of out. I don't know how online your league is.

The ADP hasn't changed enough yet to be where it's not a value. He's like a 12th round pick. He is probably like the single best pick you can make in fantasy right now, I would say. He has the highest likelihood to be a major storyline this year in fantasy for where he's going in drafts. We all turn key on cross Camara. If you wait for the actual number, like, to get him. He's not going to go last round before your defense. Like, so many of your league is going to take him.

You have to reach probably, like, 12th round, 12 round. If you're playing in, like, a work league or your family, and everyone just kind of casually play fantasy football, you can probably wait. But if you have a lot of diehards in your league, they'll know about him. The last thing I want to say is this is unknowable, but the Texans, I think there's value in the Texans back foot, but, like, if Brian Robinson goes to Houston,

I think that could actually, like, if it gets traded to Houston, we don't know who's going to go. but keep an eye on where Brian Robinson goes. We're not going to do turnkey on Brian Robinson or whatever, but if he goes to Tennessee, that's bad for Tony Pollard. If he goes to Houston,

that's really good for Brian Robinson. So anyway. Did you say why he was called Bill? I think it's just a joke. I think his family, it was a nickname when he was a kid. It's because it's based off the children show Little Bill for having a near bald hairstyle in his youth. Bill.

That's so funny, Bill. Any other names are running back? Does one to turn Key on? Nobody I feel super, super confident about right now. Do you want to mention, I think the only, Ali Gord of the Dolphins are the turnkey guy? Just a good late sleeper. I mean, I think he's just a good late sleeper.

Keep your eye on him. Devon A. Chan is kind of hurt right now. I think you can still turn your key on somebody, even if they're probably not going to do anything, if they're going last in drafts. Exactly. The two guys, I want to put in that category. This is your last pick before defense.

Damien Pierce from the Texans. He has a thousand yard season on his resolution. And Joe makes in this injury situation is really uncertain. There's a very strong chance that he's going to miss the beginning of the season, if not longer. And Nick Chubb is the only other competition. Nick Chub, everything we've heard out of camp so far is that he just doesn't have any juice left. So- Got on juice.

And I've heard good things about Damien Pierce from camp as well. He's, he got another, he got a little bit of a late start as well just because he was, I think, getting over an injury. But I don't know. He's, to me is he's got a thousand yard season on his resume. And he's going in the last round, if not. undrafted. Would you rather turn your key on Damian Pierce or Ollie Gordon?

Damian Pierce, just because I've seen it happen in the NFL before. I'll turn my key with him on Pierce. Just again, it's the last run. It's your last pick. Yeah, cheap sleeper. Sure. It's like he just might be a starter. Craig, sure. So if they don't acquire Brian Robinson. Again, it's hard to me and be like

no. Yeah, I know. The 16th round, I refuse foot down. All right. We're going to get to receiver, but first, football's almost here, which means it's time to start thinking about how the season will end. That's why Fandall created a whole new holiday. Futures Day happening on Tuesday, August 26. It's 24 hours of deals on your season-long picks.

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You know what we haven't talked about? We went through boring, went through this. It's Jordan Mason and the Vikings. And I just wanted to throw them up. for two seconds. He doesn't catch passes, but if Aaron Jones pulls his hamstring or tears his groin in week three, and are we going to be like, how did we not talk about Jordan Mason on Minnesota

for like a month? It is interesting that Jordan Mason was fantastic and a league winner last year for like a month. Right. And then a team traded for him and they have an old 30-year running back gave him money and we haven't discussed it. And I think they're going to want to run the hell of the ball. He's a great value. I want to specifically

platform rankings in particular. Sometimes like the platform you plan totally depends whether a guy's a good value or not. every player, but some guys, it's a huge deal. Jordan Mason, if you just open, like, the ESPN draft room, like on Yahoo, Jordan Mason's 80th. ESPN, he's like 130th. I think it's the biggest disparity of any player in the entire NFL this year. Again, the actual thing you're looking at your drafts.

I think that's probably because ESPN, not, I mean, this doesn't fully explain it, but ESPN is PPR. Exactly. And so he doesn't, he's not going to catch me a guy. And he's still half, but I'm just saying, Jordan Mason's like 75th on Yahoo. That's like, you know, a very early pick. And then on ESPN, if you're on an ESPN league in particular, particular, Jordan Mason is a turnkey.

Jordan Mason and ESPN. You can get Charbonnet and Jordan Mason for so cheap. Like, I actually, this is maybe stupid, but if you're in ESPN league, I would, like, plan a lot of my strategy about around reaching for Charbonnet and Jordan Mason both late, because they're ranked really, like, too low. So I just wanted to shout out of that way on that. So we're adding George Mason. Like, I don't know if I would take Jordan Mason on Yahoo.

But I would, I would, like, make sure to get Jordan Mason in ESPN. One thing that's good about him, same with Charbonnet. They're not famous at all. They are guys who will fall because people, again, if you're in a more casual league, no one's even going to know who Jordan Mason is. Mason's 119th next to Jacori-Krosky Merit on ESPN, but he's like 77th on Yahoo. And then Charbonnet, Charbonnet is like 130 second on ESPN next to Jaden Blue for Dallas. That's surprising.

Especially with Kenneth Walker. So platform-specific Charbonnet and Mason and ESPN, but Yahoo, they're ranked totally differently. Okay, let's get to receiver. And again, we'll try. If we all agree on someone, like, again, at cost, then we're like, we can move on. You know what I'm going to talk about, what are you doing on Futures Day?

I'm betting Drake London, 22 to 1, to lead the league in receiving TV. Turnkey. I agree. Yeah. I think the only slight thing in the back of my mind is we just don't really know what Michael Pennix is, but I think the upside is so strong.

I'll tell you what we do know. He has true, actually wide receiver one upside. He's the cheapest, least famous wide receiver. that could be the number one guy this year. Right. And I would say what we do know is that he's going to throw the ball to fucking Drake London, Michael Pennix. Yeah, 100%. Drake London's a turnkey.

Second round pick, you get Drake London. I think you're doing well. Bang! Bang! Oh, bang! Bang! T. Higgins for the Bengals. I feel strongly about T. Higgins.

I feel like we have him ranked way too low. Okay. He's the type of guy who last year... Wider receiver two last year. Yeah, last year he was, and I think in total points and wide receiver five or four in points per game. For a month. But yeah, per game, I think he was... Sure.

Yeah, he averaged 15.5 points per game. Obviously, the big hiccup is he only played 12 games. He out-targeted Jamar Chase in the games that they played together. That's one of my favorite stats you've had all this season. I mean, and it's obviously like Jamar Chase, I'm not saying don't draft Jamar Chase because Jamar Chase is more explosive. He's going to probably score more touchdowns. And big plays is kind of Jamar Chase's thing.

But T. Higgins. They're closer together than people think when they're actually healthy in playing. Absolute trust of Joe Burrow. Also, Joe Burrow is kind of like Matt Stafford in the sense he's. He's just going to feed his guys. It's a concentrated passing game to Jamar Chase, T. Higgins. And if T. Higgins is out, it's Mike Kisicki. That's kind of like the guys he passes to.

T. Higgins passes that Mike Tomlin called him a goon, but he did it like the 90s Batman way, not the 2020s. Google that if you want, but not at work. But then T. Higgins is also just, if you're Monday to football and you're like, I'm up 27 and like they have T. Higgins, you're like, oh no. Like you're like, Parker Factor is still T. Higgins. Oh, yeah. Anything feels possible.

I'll turn Kian T. 20 of... Turn T. Joe Burroughs 40 of Joe Burroughs 40% passing touchdowns last year were inside the five-guard line. Are we turning Kian Higgins?

The only thing about him is he's never really healthy. He misses like a month ever. Are we turning Kee or not, guys? We have a lot of names left here. Are we turning Kee or what? Yeah, I'll turn Kee. I am doing key. I am well. I am doing that. Tyree Kill, you guys going to do it with me or not?

No. Pussy. Pussy. To me, it's just, I think I'm just tired of the Tyree Kill. I'm tired of it, too. I think I'm not going to deny for two seconds that Tyree Kill could very easily be the best value in all fantasy.

And here I am talking about Christian McCaffrey in round one, where it's like Tyree kill, I mean, you could have taken him the first pick a couple years ago. Like Tyree kill. He was the number two pick and drafts last year. Now he's going at the end of the third round. Why? What happened? No, that's fine.

If you think he's two missed half the season and Tyreek hurt his wrist before the season began. But if some, look, he was slower last year. If you look at his metrics, he wasn't as fast as he usually was. If you want to, if you want to jump on the, he's washed, he's going downhill. speed guys don't age well, that's all fine. But this guy's going at the end of the third round. I'm kind of like, who fucking cares? Is it bad that I almost would rather have, like, he's picking up injuries?

And I almost, is it bad that I almost rather, I guess I'm going against everything I believe, when I'm like, you could take Jalen Waddle three rounds later and just, or two rounds later. And just, if Tyree Kill is hurt, then Jail and Waddle just has the entire offense. I mean, counter. Tyree Kill was bad last year, and Waddle still sucked. Remember when I said Tony Pollard's the best player, I won't turn my key on? I feel like it's Tyree Kill. God, I understand all of it.

It is the definition of a risk. He's kind of a veal chop. He's like A-chan in a sense. You know what it is? The whole damn often. If it's over, it's going to be over, but if it's not over. I actually just figured it out. I, if football was played on spreadsheets,

and if you're the kind of person, I'm going to totally weasel my way out of this. If you're the kind of person who just spreadsheet, you're like, I would like to win in accrue value, and I don't even watch my team necessarily, which is not a judgment. I play fantasy baseball that way. I barely,

barely, I have a good team, but I barely watch baseball. If you're that way, turn Kian and Tyree Kill. Because what I don't like about Tyree Kill is, you know, I would say, I don't like what.

I don't like rooting for him. Like, there's another issue he had off the field this year, which I don't love. Fair. And then on top of it. All right,

you're going to throw that at me, fair. No, but no, I'm just mentioning it. But the Dolphins offense also, I don't like watching Miami. Every time Tua gets hurt, I cringe.

Yeah, yeah. He's older. so like if you're going to watch the dolphins I just feel like the downside's really low so I'm going to not turn my key on because I'm going to be a I guess I'm not trying to be a high horse asshole until other people would not draft him I'm not trying to moral high horse

I just like don't want him on my team which sounds dushy did you feel that way last year like he decided he was better last year to take the moral life his whole career have you not had him well look the Browns take shortcuts on character and still suck. If you're going to do it, do it right.

You're like, yeah, your money's worth. I'm like, I'm going to deal with all this and he sucks. I don't want to deal with that. I think, it's not that I don't think Tyrie Kill has upside. He definitely does. Same to monies bullshit here. The year that he's like, oh, he might be slow. It's like, actually, I have a moral problem with this.

Now I'm not. Now that stuff really bothers me. He didn't hit 21 miles an hour last year? Never mind. To me, I'm not turning my key because there's more ways it can go wrong than it can go right. There's a chance it will go right, but. It's tough because you know what? I will say this.

The entire point of this exercise is what he's saying. Like, I got Tyra Kill in third round and the tire kill is 1,700 yards. If you were played 17 games, I will say this is the whole point of the exercise. But you're also burning a third rounder if he doesn't do well. Yeah, but like... Yeah, but okay.

The other third rounders... This is the whole point of the exercise. The other third rounders are Brise Hall, Jackson Smith & Jigma, James Cook, Garrett Wilson, Trayman. I'm going to turn my key because... Are any of those guys sure things? This is the point of the exercise,

which is Tyre Klee. kill. Is Jackson Smith and Jigba going to have 1,800 yards this year? Probably not. No. Could Tyreek? Yes. Realistically? He literally did that the year before last. No, I'm going to turn my key. That was a bunch of sanctimonies bullshit. I'll call myself out. All right. I'm going to stay

on turn it. Thank God. You're holding it down. All right, so then Jalen Waddle then. Here's the thing. Jalen Waddle is a good pick. We hate him. I hate him. Fuck that guy. I'm not turning my key. He might be the best pick in drafts right now because A. Chan's hurt. Tyreeks hurt. Fives of Tyreek are terrible. The vibes in my... The only...

John Hussmith's gone. Like, it's just Waddle. Yeah. Is it? But I don't want to. Yeah, I don't want to be there. Yeah, no. I just don't, yeah.

I just wanted to rile you guys up. Yeah, I get it. Well, it worked. All right. Tetwarroa, McMillan for the Panthers. That Craig's kind of like, I don't care what his mother says. Tetaroa. Titoa.

It's because I'm in the process of trying to not putch. Tetoa. Every time I'm trying not to butcher it, so I butcher it every time. Right. He was out of syllable. It's like when you think about it. Tatoa. It's not Tettoroa.

It's Tetaroa. It's a Hawaiian, man. Don't think about your farm. You're thinking too much. Tetoa is like saying croissant. Just say croissant. Oh, that's right. We're in America.

That is like, Bartholona. Yeah, he beat that. Went to Ibiza. Bita. I guess I shouldn't try to do the Hawaiians. I love Tet. He's one of my favorite players this year. I think he could just immediately be like top 10 in targets.

I'm turning it. I think he's really talented. All right. Turn Kee. He's awesome. And I also, apart from my love. I'll go down with that. If he doesn't, if it doesn't,

Turn the key. He's legit. He's legit. George Pickens, Cowboys. I'm in. Yes. George Pickens is the more fun version of Tyree Kill. It could go wrong.

It could go very wrong. But if it goes right, boy, oh, boy. It's going to be a lot of fun. I mean, and I think the Broncos, or sorry, the Broncos, the Cowboys are going to throw for a ton of yards. I trust Dak Prescott to feed his two big targets in C. Lee Lamb and George Pickens. The vibes have been outstanding in training camp and in, during the whole off season.

Well, Michael Parsons. What the fuck are you talking about? Talking about fucking Pickens. Oh, what do you fucking think I'm talking about? Dallas, sorry. I was like, I was like,

everything I've heard about Pickens has been great. Okay, good. He's like lighting it up. Yeah. He's very good. He is crazy. Complementary. Yes.

A night out with Pickens could be great. Maybe a 10-year relationship. I'm not just sure. not so sure. I'm not so sure. I don't know. This could certainly go wrong. Like,

I still think there's an underrated factor of like C.D. Lamb gets 15 targets a game. Pickens is pissed. He has no touchdowns for the first three weeks of the season. And he's like bitching to the media. And it goes poorly. He doesn't have a contract yet. So I do think it could kind of get dicey. No, it's, dude.

But the upside is really good. I have to say, I, it's easy. If it goes wrong, it's like, wow, I can't believe Mike Tom and give up on a reason. Like, I can, we could record this segment. after the season right now of the we're going to record a tattoo for next year like Mike Tom gives up on a receiver like never literally draft them ever

however Pickens is unlike those other guys because I think they wanted Russ back and they or what they wanted Metcalfe like they were like we're not going to pay George George he's crazy but to me there's a difference between can I say that on I can say he's crazy I don't care but like the there's a difference between we're not going to give him like

he's a knucklehead yeah he's a knucklehead and we're not going to give him $100 million so we're going to just trade him and get Metcalf in like that's fine. Yeah. There's a difference, but however,

in fantasy, it's this simple to me. How many times have we joked if all the time George Pickens caught a ball out of bounds, it was inbounds? He'd be like,

Jerry Rice. I just think that's actually kind of if someone's goes to the quarterback's suck. And like, Dak, everyone's happier when the quarterback's better. I'm going to turn Key on Pickens.

For sure. I'm turning the key as well. If the aliens come down and watch a football game that George Pickens, they're like, that guy must be the best player in the league. Craig nailed it at the live show.

Pickens is the Kirkland brand T. Higgins. If you're like, I don't want T. Higgins, I'd rather, Kairn Williams, I'd rather take a quarterback, whatever. Pickens is the guy where you're like, Dallas also has a bad defense, might throw the ball 600 times, and Dak Prescott and C.D. Lamb and George Pickens are both top-time receivers. On volume,

that Pickens is, this is what this exercise is for. Like, it's so easy for me to see all that happening. Like, it's been so long since Dallas had a competent number two. It's almost hard to remember. Right. But like... Turnkey. Calvin Ridley for the Titans. I think turnkey, right? We've talked about this a lot.

lot. Yeah. If Cam Ward sucks, he's a solid pick. If Cam Ward's great, he's an amazing guy. We all turn key, and I think you put it best.

Calvin Ridley's priced like Will Levis is still the quarterback in Tennessee. He's not, this is his floor. Calvin really has all ceiling above it. I think the quarterback upgrade here has potential to be massive.

So that's why I'm buying. Also, basically no competition. Yeah. For targets. All right. Travis Hunter, receiver quarterback for the Jaguars. Can I just,

I know you're obviously turning the key. I kind of only want to turn the key because I don't want to turn the key because I don't to miss the boat. Like, I don't want to be the guy who was like, Travis Lever can't do it. Yeah. But I, but I don't know. I'm not that confident. I'm just like, I'm just dubious. You don't get double the points because he plays defense. So, you know, it's just double the risk, but not double the points. Um, you go. If it's his, he, look at him. He's, he's getting

tense right now. He's putting his computer aside so he can fight me physically. Like, part of me thinks that he'll just be better than Brian Thomas. And Brian Thomas could potentially, like, have a terrible season because Travis Hunter's that good. I do think that's in play and I do think about that. And then the other side of me is like he's playing defense. What the fuck are we doing? I think I think I want to turn the key on Hunter. I think I do.

Part of me thinks he's not going to play demons that much. Right. Because he's going to be so good on offense. They're going to be like, eh. I think I'm turning the key on Hunter. So you're not turning to. And it's not because High Fitz is trying to physically intimidate me right now. You are or are not?

I am. I'm not, I'm not in on him because Hyfitz is trying to intimidate. me. I'm in on him because I believe in the talent. I think it's going to be a concentrated passing game with him and Brian Thomas. Yeah. I'm going to do it too. I'm not turning the key. Come on.

You brought this up. Yeah, what? He's on this list. He is. I brought it up because I have an announcement. This is bullshit. I was going to mention this on the Take Purge. Fuck, you should have saved it. That's so good. I didn't save it because people are drafting and I feel like a fiduciary responsibility if you're

everything I said. Every year we always, there's always something I'm kind of clisomically wrong about. Yeah, but now that you're getting ahead of it. No, no, no, no. Joe Burrow last year, and I was, like, worried about the wrist, which was a thing, but he just got over it. Joe Burr himself wasn't sure entering the season. However, Josh Jacobs, Mike Davis, there's always a thing.

But this thing, because you prematurely said it was you thinking the Saints were going to be bad. I was just not it. And then D.K. wisely was like, the answer is your love of Travis Hunter. Right. He's all in. Travis Hunter is the thing I care the most about. Travis Hunter's the thing I'm wrong about.

Can't believe this fucker got us both. turn the key. I feel like you're, you're just hedging your bet because you don't want to be wrong for people. There's two different things. I think for fantasy, for fantasy purposes,

I think the splitting the time might matter. I mean, for fantasy, you can draft him, but I'm saying I don't, I'm a little dubious that he's going to be able to do as a rookie. I know.

What a cock move out of you. I know. But here's the thing I realized. Here's what I didn't occur to me. Snips snap, snip, snap. Here's where I realize, because I do think part

of the Travis Hono experience is being like, this guy could be Otani. How many times I said, this year. He could be like Otani. And you could just have not been part of that. And you could have. How many chances do you ever get in your whole life to do that?

Here's what I realized. I guess every year. Well, here's what I realized. I think I watched the preseason game with the Steelers and Jaguars. And Travis Hunter played the first team offense. He played second team defense. And you know what the one scenario

none of us actually talked about was, what if Travis Hunter plays? And then he played the pre-he got two-chek, third and seven. He got like a six-yard pass. Third and four, he got like two-yard pass. And I play, and I realized in that moment, none of us have actually considered, what if Travis Hunter plays both ways, offense defense, and the Jaguar's defense sucks,

and the Jaguar's offense is fine. And it's actually totally forgettable and almost weird that he's playing both ways because neither unit itself is actually remarkable. And it's actually a completely forgettable experience, and it's nothing of the transformative sort, I think, at all. Because, you know, he's not a fucking starting pitcher. He's a cornerback. Right.

Like, if the defense sucks, who fucking cares? And I realized that's what's going to happen. He's going to play both ways and no one's going to give a shit. I mean, yeah, that was kind of my initial read when they drafted him second, when they traded up for him. And I was going to save this for the take purge, but I'm doing it now because I've talked about so much. And I'm just saying, you can still take him. Everything I said is still feel a little bit. But I just wanted to, I think I'm, perhaps I was the only person talking about all this and I was wrong.

It's a cooler real life story than a fantasy one. Yeah. So, there you go. I watched him play defense. I'm going, yeah, this is probably a weird thing to bet on. There you go. That's my announcement. All right.

I'm going to throw a name out here and you guys are actually disappointed in me. Wow. I do you think this is kind of a beta move by you. I'm probably. I think it is. Well, no. Like, to be clear, Hifitz's job. Half of the fun.

Half of the fun of being Hifitz is being spectacularly wrong. Close the deal, man. My God. I watched the preseason game. To be clear, I want you to know, it's not like I got scared. I watched the preseason game. I got the ick. I was like,

I was like, fuck, the kicker so much more interesting than this fucking experience. Did you watch him in college? Like, what, you didn't get the ache then? No,

he was, he was the most fun college player of ever seen as an adult. So you watched one preseason game? What were you expecting? I mean, have to pick six

and a six-yard touchdown in the preseason? No, I just watched it. I was like, this is like, this is thoroughly unremarkable. Like, literally, I was like,

I have nothing to say about this. It makes me feel nothing. That's kind of confusing to me. I don't even really know what that means. You watched him play offensive events for like a series. It's supposed to be as cool as I thought it would be. So, capriced. He's a fickle beast.

Yeah. Okay. I wish you closed the deal and doubled down. That's the high fits move. He's going to be awesome now. And then we're going to say you got out at the last second. My gift and curse is your apple stock. Right before.

Honestly, yeah, that probably is what I did. I just sold well, yeah. Oh, that's really funny. Brutal. Roma Dunezay for the Bears. I think I'm going to take this out. I'm not turning the key. I'm actually, I changed my mind on this,

but I do want to throw out a different name right now. Oh, okay. I want to throw out Jordan Addison. Oh. For the Vikings. I'm starting to get some conviction on him over the last like two weeks. Okay. He's going to be suspended for three games.

The three games at the beginning of the year, the easiest to kind of weather that storm, no buy weeks. You can plug in a different guy. Sure. I think he's one of the, he could be one of the best ads early on in the season because or sorry, where he's going in drafts, because

this is like kind of the opposite of five. It's like I watched one series with him with J.J. McCarthy just fed him and he looked awesome and he was playing all over the field. He's also obviously got a history of scoring a lot of touchdowns and this offense. The question here is what if J.J. McCarthy is just as good as Sam Darno was last year. And I think there's a world in which that is very possible. I believe that could happen. and Addison to me feels like an amazing value.

Justin Jefferson already has a hamstring injury. Obviously, that's kind of, I don't think it's serious, but it is bleeding into the deep part of the preseason. If Addison is the number one receiver on this team, I think he could go absolutely nuclear. I'm not expecting it to happen, but I think he's a great sleeper where he's going. You know what?

He is kind of like the Devonty Smith, where it's like, Devonty Smith's all right to start, but like if AJ Brown's out, Devonty Smith's a top 10 receiver. Addison does that have that in him. I'm not turning my key. Fair enough. I just wanted to get that out there.

It's an interesting one. I like that, D.K. I think the difference is, if Justin Jefferson plays the whole season, I think it's kind of, you just immediately throw this out, which sucks, right? They basically, Jordan Addison last year played 15 games. He was a wide receiver 22, 21.

So it's like, all right, that's kind of like what he's capable of. He's going right now as the wide receiver 37. Yeah, but the whole point of this exercise is like, is he going to be a story of the season? And... Right, sure. So basically... If Justin Jefferson plays,

he will not be a story of the season. Yeah. Right? Yeah. So that's one thing. Two... That's a good... That's a good...

He's not... He's not... He's not... He's not... I trust Philly more. I trust J.1. Heard's more. I don't know about J.C. McCarthy.

I think Craig's right that it's closer to Tony Pollard where if you draft Addison, what you're describing is he's a good value, but he's not... I don't know if he's going to be Brian Thomas... I think you're right. He doesn't pass the bar.

I just wanted to throw that there. However, I will say this. Wet Reckless, Jordan Anderson. I wanted to say this, what we're talking about of, like, I think these guys could be, you look back. I'm my fantasy team name. Whoever drafts, Jordan. He took it.

He took it. He took it. I'm wet reckless. In the Ringer League? Yeah, I already named my team that. I don't, I feel like you have to wait to have Jordan Addison to do that. Fuck that. I don't like that.

No. Fuck that. Do you believe in making, like, team name puns if you, or player puns if you don't have the player in your team? I just thought wet reckless was funny. It was the day we made the league, and I made it. I don't usually do that, but it was the same day, and I was just like, this is funny.

Okay. I did see that you made that name and I thought it was funny. Maybe I should drop the charge. To the point, though, you look back, this is the reason you want to leak. If I could, like, draft who are the three picks I would make? Like, who could be Brian Thomas next year? We're about to talk about three of them.

One, Emeka Buka for the Buccaneers. Turin key. Very turned it. Like, unanimous. Just a stud. Ricky Parasol for the 49ers. I'm all aboard. 100%.

I actually think I would consider Ricky Parasol as like my number one guy of where he's being drafted, which I think you can take him. I mean, Yahu has him ranked in the 70s. You could take him there if you want. Some players, he falls way further. But Ricky Parasol to me is the epitome of the upside. Yeah, he's just, despite all the names at the top of the board, round one, round two.

Ricky Peresal ends up at top their receiver. He's going so cheap, too. So the question becomes Juan Jennings, because it almost becomes, do you think he's healthy or not? Yeah, is this calf injury a ruse to get a contract? I don't love that he's missed so much time. He's missed a lot of time,

which is why I'm more confident in Peris. I think Jennings, it's as simple as if he falls because he has the questionable. But that to me is he's the return value guy. Parasel's the explosion potential. And I don't know if Jennings necessarily, well, I guess he does have the explosion potential. No, that's fair.

Jennings is probably the safer bet, return on investment, all that good stuff. Because I think he's very good. I want to turn key on both these guys just because I'm like, the 49ers are the most obvious team to bet on this year with the easy schedule, with the coaching's really good. I just, man, I think Pierceall has a higher ceiling than Jennings. I don't know if Jennings qualifies exactly, but like if we want to just generally say turn the key for the Niners, that's fine, I agree. No Debo, no Ayuk for a while. It's going to be these two guys. I'm turning key for Pearsall.

Yeah, definitely pierced. Jennings. Jennings. Jennings, I think the answer is no, because we're waffling, which is the whole point. Yeah, but it's still a great pick. You should, like, it's as simple as this.

If you drafted Pearson and, like, I don't know, round eight, you're like, fuck yes. Jennings, you're like, yeah, golf club. Yeah. Yeah. The next guy, for me, Matthew Golden, Green Bay Packers, turnkey. I think, I'm all in.

I'm in. So, Buka Golden Parasol, those are like, I think, for the receiver, those are my three guys. I'm like, I think they're going to change your season. If you start your draft with, like, running backs and tight ends and quarterbacks, and you need to kind of gobble up a lot of receivers.

Those three are great. I want to throw out, too, now, that Daniel Jones is a starter in Indianapolis, and I think that requires some changes to be made in how we rank the Colts receivers. Michael Pittman and Josh Downs, I want to talk about both of them. Last year, Michael Pittman broke his back, didn't miss any games, insane, wasn't good. Josh Downs. I mean, you can just, like, throw everything out when Anthony Richardson is playing, because, like, every game is just so volatile and chaotic.

The year before, with Gardner Minshu quarterbacking the Colts for the majority of the season, I don't know, man. Michael Pittman had 109 catches. And I'm like, Daniel Jones just gave 100 catches to Wondale Robinson. And maybe it's not Michael Pittman will be a league winner story of the season. But I think he could be like a really significant return on investment. If they're just running RPO's and hit Michael Pittman over for 10 times a week. I agree with everything you're saying. He's just going so late.

I'm not turning my key. But I think you're right. And you know why? He's platform specific. When you open your ESPN draft window, Michael Pittman is ranked 77. When you open it on Yahoo, Michael Pittman is 115th. So I think it's as simple as this to me. I don't know if I want ESPN Michael Pittman.

I think he's like, yeah, it could work. Yahoo, I think he's one of the easiest targets there is on Yahoo. He might be the most boring, like, wet noodle paste. He's not talked about him at all. Michael Pittman on Yahoo is you could convince me the single best value because you're like, he was, yeah, he was the 34th pick last year, whatever, 35th pick in drafts. He's 150th on Yahoo. That doesn't make any sense.

Yeah, you kind of reach a point in the offseason. Like once you get around August 20th, once the second preseason game goes by, the rankings just kind of stop. They're just kind of frozen forever no matter what happens. And this Anthony Richardson news is a big deal for the past catchers, and he's just kind of still where he was with Anthony. I just like our Matt Harmon, who is, we love Matt Harmon. We've been to bars with Matt.

He's awesome. Matt Harmon's low on Michael Pittman. That's such a one. I know Matt. I was trying to. We are friends with him. Passive voice way of saying that he's our friend. I was almost, we've been to bars with him.

I was. trying to think if it was like weird to be specific. And so I just went with that and sounded weirder. We've been in his present. Yeah, I've seen Matt from the flock. Are you applying that Matt is telling us things that he doesn't say on his podcast about Michael Pittman? No, I'm saying he hasn't really ranked really low and I agree with him on everything.

And I think he's just wrong about him. Oh, okay. He also loves Josh Downs. He loves Josh Downs. I just think he's being a hipster about it. I generally think I love Matt's rankings. Antonio Brown and nobody knows it yet, which maybe he is. I think the reason I'm not going to turn my key on this is,

because I don't believe in Daniel Jones. However, I think these are great values. I like these picks. Fair. Maybe Michael Pittman won't be a league winning player. But he's a great player. But he's a great value. But he's a great value.

I think Josh Downs. I think Josh Downs as well. Pitman's a Yahoo pick. And if you want Downs, Downs is an ESPN pick because Downs is 110th there. But on Yahoo, he's the same thing. Pitman. Okay.

Luther Burden Bears. Come on, baby. He's so good. He's basically going on draft. He's going like 150. Turn key because he's free and he was like with a 40th pick in the draft or whatever and just five-star recruit and just close your eyes second-round draft picks. Hold him for the first half of the season and see if he gets his shit together. Like turnkey because this is someone that frankly other people who probably aren't going to take.

Alameday Zakias is the biggest red herring of this offseason. Okay. So you know how we'll turn keys though? You know how we always have this every year? It was like the year it was Justin Jefferson was a rookie. he was playing behind, I can't even fucking remember now, some random guy.

Do you remember this? And everyone was worried about the depth chart. He wasn't playing in the first two games. Yeah, it doesn't matter. And then he had, what, like 13-90 yards or something like? Luther Burton, he might not earn it immediately, but he's the epitome of, like, you know who else didn't do anything his rookie year?

Until Thanksgiving, Rishi Rice. Totally. Then Rishie Rice was incredible. Like, Luther Burden's the post- Thanksgiving college freshman. Burden turn key, Darnel Mooney, Falcons. I'm not turning my key. He's a good value. He's hurt.

He's a good value. Christian Kirk, I think Texans, same thing. Good value, weirdly good value, not a season changing player, right? Maybe the biggest Glansburg of the NFL season. I agree. I think we've all assumed, it's like we're trying to do the thing where we do the running backs, where we're trying to just push Jaden Higgins and Jayden Nguyen. Jayden is going to back up Nico Collins at X, and Christian Kirk's going to be the underneath guy.

Christian Kirk's going to be like Adam Thielen was a couple years ago when I tried to bury him and he was really good. Christian Kirk's going to weirdly be a top 20 receiver, Tyler Lockett-style a month into the season. Kirk is like a perfect late-round receiver. not for this exercise, but I do think you win your league with, Christian Kirk can be mixed in. Like, he's going to be able to play for you.

He's worth the flyer. I think he's a good sleeper, but not, yeah, I agree. Last person I want to mention, he's not a turnkey, but I just wanted to shout out

Keenan Allen's back with the Chargers and looks okay. And I kind of think we would ignore Keenan Allen, but he went back to the Chargers with Herbert. He's like, by, and like, it's worth remembering,

he's very rare where a guy signs with a team on August 21st, and like Herbert has way more experience with that guy than any of the other guys. And I want to say, I can't remember the last time I've ever felt that way. Keenan Allen to me is the most off-the-radar pick that could be immediately good because, again, there's no ramp-up period.

Right. I mean, there is, but, like, it's a different offense, but, like, he knows how he knows how the quarterback, you know. He doesn't know the system because they cut him, but, like, because they're in the bears last year, but, like, he knows Herbert, which is the most important part. Yeah, so I just want to shout out.

Not washed. Keenan Allen, just want to show him out. Okay. Quarterbacks, this is going to be simpler. Again, Guys that could change the... I think Jalen Hertz. I just...

Jalen Hertz, in the fourth round, you look back and he ends up the number one quarterback. Jalen Hertz to me is ranked like they banned the Tush Push and they did not. So I'm turning key. I don't even give a shit if you guys do or not.

I'll turn your keys for you. No, I'm... I will turn my key on all four, the big four. Yeah. Hertz in particular, I'd actually rather have Hertz in the fourth than Josh Allen and third. I think that the... I'm fine with that.

They have higher ceilings, but it's like Jalen Hertz is the most predictable player game week to week there's ever been in fantasy, basically. I will say, when I did an auction league the other day and it was Hertz was not a lot cheaper, but he was cheaper than the other three guys.

It makes no. Lamar, Jane Daniels, and Josh Allen. It makes no sense to me. Oh, it makes sense to me. Like in the court of public opinion, I understand why. Sure. Josh Allen and Lamar and they were, they win MVP's. Yeah, but they're cooler, but it's also like people

who don't care about that just looking at, is that combined with people looking at numbers are looking at like modeling and they're just like, well, these guys have higher ceilings and the Eagles are going to it's going to be different. But I'm like, I think the difference to me is Hertz's little projection

is the most bankable fucking thing ever. I can't even stress how much I'm sure. I also think the Eagles might have to throw a lot more this year and I really like Devonte and AJ Brown. Turnkey for Hertz. Justin Fields is a turnkey for me.

Especially on Sleeper where he's ranked 126th. If you're drafted against Sleeper, again, Yahoo is Justin Fields ranked like 83rd. I'm like, yeah, that's about right. I don't want him on Yahoo. Sleeper,

126 is the best value on the platform. Yeah. I've like soured on him, I think because I'm not excited about the Jets and you watch him in preseason. Yeah, that's fine. But if you just kind of... He sucks.

Think about when the season starts, week one, he's going to have 12 carries for 85 yards and a touchdown and he'll be a cubic. Like, you just got to think about that. And yes, if there's any guy going outside the top 10 in who I feel if he plays 17 games

has the best shot of finishing right outside those top four, it's him. Dak Prescott, turnkey. I think so. Do we turnkey on Justin Fields? I guess... I think I'm with you guys.

You said I guess, so no. No, I don't know. I think Craig said I've soured on him, and I agree with that. Just don't watch it. Just don't watch him play. Yeah, but I do think he fits perfectly the definition of a guy who could heavily influence the outcome of your league. And so I agree.

I think Justin feels the upside is too much to ignore. I'm in. Dak Prescott, what we feel about that? I think he, Dak Prescott to me is easily the best non-running. option at quarterback. If we picked a pocket path, if we were like the Baker Mayfield

last year, who's the random pocket passer among the C of Dak Prescott, Jared Goff, C.J. Stroud, Jordan Love, Justin Herbert, who's like going to randomly be with the top four Russian quarterbacks

as the fifth guy. I can make a case for all of them. It can make a case for Jordan Love, Stroud, all these guys. But I've been to pick one, I'd pick back. Same. I'll turn my key on that.

Drake May. I'm all in on Pickins. I might as well. Trick May, I am nominating in 100% turning my key. I think he's the cheapest bet to clone Josh Allen.

Turnkey. I think he's like Trivian Henderson where it's like he's so exciting that I think he might go really high in your draft. But like this exercise, like yeah. If Drake May just levels up this year, then yeah. I like this. I agree. And Hertzfields, Prescott, May feels like a cool like quarterback group. I like that.

Nice blunt rotation. Michael Pennix Jr. for the Falcons. I wrote him down because I do think like could he have a darnald-esque. 35 touchdown for 4,200-yard season. Is he the cheapest bet to do that? Year 2 of the offense, gun-slinging, a lot of talent, going to throw the ball a lot. He was on pace for 4,100, again, a very limited sample size,

but he was already on pace for 4,100 passing yards in those three games. Only six guys did that last year. I'm kind of like, could he be Jamis. When James was James, yes. James was like a top eight quarterback. Right. So I'm kind of like, I don't know. I mean, he's going on drafted.

I don't know if Pennix could do 30-30, but I think he could do it 20-20. 20 touchdowns and 20 picks for fennics Maybe that's not what you want But well I mean it is though for vanity If you're in a two quarterback league And you're kind of like I'm fine punting on quarterback this year Last pick in the draft pennics

Yeah I like this as a value I don't like this I'm not going to turn my key on him I just don't know if I trust it quite even as Last pick in the draft quarterbacks go I think there's other guys I like a little bit more Okay yeah any other quarterback she goes on Caleb Williams the Bears

I know I think we should run through a couple of these Caleb, I'm going to say no. I'm not turning my key. Like if it happens, I wouldn't be shocked, but I'm not turning my key as like, oh, yeah, like I think this will happen. Like, I still lean toward probably not. I do think the vibes have been so bad that he's not going to get drafted super high anymore. He's fault.

Yeah. The hype is down. He's, he went from, frankly, a good offseason, a good preseason would have been like, you're drafting him as a bad starter. And now you're kind of drafting him as a good backup, which it does, is, like, that does change things. If we just, like, never saw a practice or never heard anything this off season, he'd be going way higher. I think that's true.

I'm not turning my key. No, I don't think I am either. What about Trevor Lawrence? Going as the QB 22. I think he's like if the Jaguar's offense becomes what the Bucks was last year and Liam Cohen turns out to be the next great coach, he's like the new Kevin O'Connell or whatever, like we would be yes. This year's Baker Mayfield.

But that's what it would take. And I wouldn't be surprised, but that's what it would take. I think he's a great bet for this. I think he's the definition of like everything comes together. He has all the skills. He runs a little bit. He's been a top 10 guy in the past. He's going so late.

I would turn key on that because I just, I do think everyone's out. Everyone's out in Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, Darth, again, this is the last round in your draft. Yeah. I kind of think it's not bad.

All right. I would rather, yeah, I agree. I'll turn my key on that. Even though I, you know, the previous history makes me a little nervous,

but I just like, of all the people that could be this year's Trevor Lawrence, or sorry, this year's Baker Mayfield, I feel like Trevor Lawrence could be that. Yeah, right? Again, last pick in the draft. I keep stressing that.

McCarthy, JJ, Vikings. No. He's like more, the argument is, you just said what he was better than Donald was more mobile than Donald so what if Darnold ran more last year I know I just I think to me this is more of a gut thing I'm willing to be wrong about J.J. McCarthy yeah that's fair I'm willing to take it I kind of

have I just have this gut feeling right now that J.J. McCarthy's gonna ball out oh but it's but it's more of a gut than a real strong conviction I feel like they're hiding something and he's not that good that's how I feel wow okay I don't know those takes conspiracy I think he's I think he's the guy that's falling through the cracks and we're forgetting how fucking good Darnel was last year. He's a... After everyone was like, he's going to suck.

I think he's a value, but not like a league changing value. I mean, he could be. If he runs, he maybe could be that guy. But like, is he seen Jaden Daniels last year, which is probably more the point of this exercise or that breaker. I don't know. I'm like, he's a rookie coming off a brutal knee injury.

Who like... Well, it's a meniscus. Come on. He had a second surgery on it. I don't know. It's just like, that's something. You know, he didn't play it all last year. And then even his Michigan year, like,

the whole knock on him was like, he didn't have to do that much. I'm just, I don't know. But have you seen him meditate? All right. Good meditator. Anyone else? Cam Ward?

I don't think. I don't have conviction. I just think he's a good sleeper. He doesn't fit this definition to me. Cam Ward, you get Adam off waivers and maybe is like a good passable quarterback. He's not changing your season. Tight end. I just think Brock Bowers, Trey, McBride, George Kittle lump all them in.

I turnkey all them. I think that if you get them around where they're going and the other running back's receivers there you don't like, I'm like, that's a thrilling pick. I think they could change it. If they are what we think they are and you have them a tight end, like it's one of the, it's the, what do we joke when you have one of these guys is super bad? Like having two cocks? Yeah.

These are the three guys who could be the number one receiver on their team. These are obvious. Let's move on. Yeah. Mark Andrews, I'm turning key. Me too. I think Mark Andrews is the epitome of like he's an ick. He gives D.K.

He dropped the ball. You're after the season. Mark Andrews, again, first half the season was the worst tight end. Probably the worst player that was in lineups for the first half the season. Then he had 11 touchdowns. his last 10 games so that it's like he's falling in drafts because it's like people don't what to do with that touchdown regression blah blah blah he had tightrope surgery and then a car crash and he was just fucked up the first half of the season yeah and then we got his legs under

him like literally figuratively i i think he's actually the fourth best tight end i say i'm like yeah so i mark andrews is where he's going my favorite guy i'm going on andrews i don't love like mid round tight ends in general if you are going to take one i i'm not i'm not doing it i should not shot another guy where there's like a pretty big gats i'm sorry There's a big gap between where he's going on some platforms. You guys are very strongly about it. I like Andrews. I think we can all turn key on Tyler Warren.

All turn key on Tyler Warren for the cults. Yeah, everything you said about Daniel Jones earlier with Michael Pittman and that, I was just thinking Tyler Warren feels like the real target for me based on this. And I'm just really excited about that one. The only thing I want to flag us. He's just like Craig's whole thing, I've seen enough. He has looked apart incredibly, just incredibly perfect. And Daniel Jones being the quarterback now for Tyler Warren, like all Daniel Jones

did that season he got paid when he threw the 15 touchdowns was like bootlegs to tight ends and I mean they're going to have so many screens from from stike and designing them for Dallas Godder back in the day like there's so many everything's over the middle he's a receiver I will say the only thing is if you look again I know I keep doing the platform thing but like that's how this really meant like this is where you're actually drafting from like this is what matters Tyler Warren and Yahoo DQ well I guess he's 110th but like ESPN Tyler Warren is oh no 113th there too overall so you know it's like a you know 10th 11th round depends how big your league is.

Yahoo, he's like 98th, and like I'm embarrassed, but like the little 98 looks different than 102. Does. And so, but I turnkey overall. We think that he, Tyler Warren is the best chance to be a top five tight end next year when you're drafting. All right, turnkey. Tucker Kraft for the Packers. I think he's probably more of a cool value.

I like that more. I don't feel confident. He's a good value. He's like a Tony Pollitt. I think he's a great flyer. Yeah, he's probably, he's like Jordan Addis. He's probably really good value at the cost. Colson level him for the Bears.

I'm not turning my key. I don't think. I'm turning for Tyler Warren. I'm not turning the key for Colson Lovlin. I've thought Lovlin arguably looks more exciting than Tyler Warren. That might be true, but the thing that you need for a tight end to take off in fantasy is they need to have very little competition. They need to be on the field all the time. I don't know if Colson Lovin's going to do either of those things.

He has a lot of competition and Cole Komet is getting a lot of snaps. I'm like he might be great. I just don't know for fantasy if he'll be on the field enough and getting enough targets to actually work out. I also think, I was trying to pull this up, but the thing is why the entire Colson-Levelin thing is, well, Ben Johnson with Sam LaPorteur, his rookie year, Sam LaPorta was the number one tight-down basically, right? And Sam LaPoter scored like 10 touchdowns, right? The problem with that logic to me is that the Lions that year scored 460 points. And to me, the question is not whether Colson Loveland's better than San Leporta. It's, does the Bears' offense have any chance, any chance of being as good as the Lions were in 2023?

I would say, like, no. Like, there's not a fraction as much talent. They could be average, because the Bears were awful on offense last year. And I think the Bears being average would be a remarkable improvement. But that's not what gets Colson-Levelin to be, like, a difference-making top-four tight end. Like, he does that if they score, the rookie tight end gets 10 touchdowns and doesn't even lead the team. And I just don't think that's going to happen. Well, and I would even add, like, that year with the Lions, they had a Monroast, St. Brown,

and then it was like Josh Reynolds, Khalif Raymond. There wasn't, I mean, they had the running backs, but there wasn't as much competition as there is in Chicago. The difference to me is, the cold. Tyler Warren to me is like... Yeah, there was no alumni to the Keyes. The Colts could be the worst team in the NFL.

The Colts could be the... Doctor Oz. The difference to me to be Warren and... Fuck it. Sorry. No, you can go ahead. The difference in Warren

and Loveland to me is just like, Warren, I think, could lead the Colts and catches. I would be shocked. 100%. And the bears would be like shocking. Last guy. The whole exercise has been coming to this.

The entire show, honestly, the entire run of our podcast has been coming to this moment. Kyle Pitts Absolutely not It's a contract year He may not love football But everyone loves money

I think if you hate yourself enough You can take Kyle Pitts And that's probably a decent flyer And that's how far out We're just how much have we talked about Like Michael Pennix Jr is going to sling it around the yard We just talked about how we think

We think he could be a difference making player He could be like Jamis, whatever Darnell Mooney's hurt Michael Pennix Jr keeps saying I'm going to get the ball to Kyle Pitts. They're golfing together. It's like the Matthew Stafford getting breakfast to the Cooper Cup. They're playing golf together.

Like, I'm just saying Kyle Pitts and ESPN, for example, is right to 142nd, tight end 17 between Hunter Henry and Tua. So I'm just saying, in terms of turning key, the point of this exercise is guys who, oh, yeah, he got them and like he changed mayor. If Kyle Pitts is not necessarily even a different player, he's just a, he's not a great tight end. He's a deep receiver. He's like a field stretcher in a tight end body or receiver body, I guess.

But the difference is he had Marcus Mariotta, nerve injury during the year he retired. He had Taylor Heineke. He had Kirk Cousins post, who was good with Kirk Cousins healthy. Then Kirk Cousins, then Kyle Pitts was top five tight end. Last year in October. Then Kirk Cousins re-injured his ankle, or Killies, basically, whatever, and then dipped off.

And I'm just saying, Don't forget Desmond Ritter. Desmond Ritter, like Kyle Pitts, as much as he's annoyed us, there's a chance that this is kind of our fucking fault. Like, it's, we never, ever really questioned that he's like Tyre McLaurin. And it's like, oh, no, you've played a terrible receiver. Like, Kyle Pitts has been frustrating on us, but it's hard to be a tight end. I'm just saying this is clearly the best quarterback situation he's entered a season with.

Obviously, last year was better, but he was good until Kirk Cousin got hurt. I'm just saying, for the purpose of this exercise, I am turning Key on Kyle Pitts because he's going to be a really late pick. There are probably some leagues he might not get drafted until there might be defenses and kickers taken before Kyle Pitts. And at that point, it's like the definition of a buy-the-dip. There will be, Brandon Aubrey for Cowboys will go before Kyle Pitts and drafts. You know where I stand. I'm not putting my name on it. Absolutely not.

All right. It's like jelly. I need proof of life that he's actually good before I'm going to get behind him again and put my name next to his name. Get him in like the 14th round. Did Cedrick Tillman for the Browns? That's fine. You can take him in the 14th round. Maybe it'll be good.

It'll be a dollar. I think we're, I think it's far enough going far enough. How much could Kyle Pitts cost, Michael? $10? I think we've gone far enough. in saying you should take Kyle Pitts as a late round flower. I'm not going to call him one of our must-add players of the year or whatever. Like the most,

the strongest conviction. We should. We'll be the only people doing it. Can I pay you to turn your key on Kyle Pitts? How much? I have, how much, how much,

wait here. If I gave you some money. Let us put Topps's name in our social. If I gave you some money in my wallet, would you be mad at me still? I have $20. No, I can't. That's, come on.

Don't compromise your integrity. I'm like 40. It'd have to be at least twice as big as that. No, I'm not doing it. Hold on. Absolutely not. Morally, I can't do it. I have another 20.

40 bucks. Can we put Pitts on the list? No. You said twice as big? All right. Those are our guys. We're going to put on Instagram, follow us around fantasy football,

and we're going to, on Instagram and TikTok, we're going to put the list of guys we were unanimous on that will include Kyle Pitts. Mm-hmm. No, it won't. It will not. All right. We'll not include Kyle Pitts. And yeah, so thank you ever for listening.

I know that was probably a little different than most episodes we do, but I kind of just feel like people just want names and names and names and names. Big draft weekend. And those people could change your season. Yeah. So that is it. And then, yeah, we're going to get to Bill Simmons. And again, Ringer Fantasy Football YouTube channel, subscribe to that.

And we're going to have the Ringer Fantasy Football League. We're going to do a live draft with Bill. Yeah, yeah. Stick around. We're going to announce our punishment idea with Bill Simmons coming up next. Love that. When I haven't announced it. We're going to figure it out live with Bill.

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by the podfather Bill Simmons, who is here because the ringer fan... I know how to sit on this side seat. I almost want to like take your leg off and just not have a leg here. You want to just not out of leg? You can just be an alpha dog. I mean, you just sit with your legs.

We should have just gone gym shorts? No, no, no. Can you get it all? Jim shorts? You could have seen my define calves from all the walking. Maybe that's a fantasy punishment. You got to wear gym shorts on pod. I was going to say fantasy punishment.

I'm going to cut his leg off. No, but you got to wear the 80s, John Treval. Larry Bird. Yeah. Like the ones that are coming up and there's like some leg hair

and some spots you don't want. I told you guys I was going to be on one today. Well, you said, well, leg hair. I feel like I just have leg hair all over my leg. No, but then it's like, you know, like in the 80s especially. Just like got a long. comfortable. Some of the NBA games, some of the movies.

Is that what you were playing fantasy football by catching up with the box scores in the Tuesday newspaper and just dealing with your weird fitting shorts in the 80s? That's basically what you were doing. I'm actually planning the booger eater draft with my friends from that draft where we do round by round like the old days. No auction. They don't understand auction. Well, you'll be upset that our Ringer fantasy football league draft that we're doing on Monday is a snake. I know. I'm bringing a ton of boogers. I'm going to pick them as we're doing. It's the booger eater draft. Can't wait. If you should call that, can we market that?

My oldest league, we don't do an auction anymore. We do snake because the father's revolted. They had newborn kids and they were like, it's really simple. We can do a snake draft or I will leave the league. And the three fathers all were like, we all decided. And so we went to snake. We can start with the snake in year one. And we can do auction year two.

If nobody likes the snake, we'll do auction year two. Auctions are starting to get ruined because people are just like 69 for Chase. 70. And then it just gets stupid. It's kind of what the Bengals have done with their actual team. Yeah, auction is tough because... One 30 for three guys. If you don't know what you're doing in an auction,

you can genuinely have a terrible team. Like, you can end the draft with just $80 you forgot to spend and really have a bad team. Snake kind of keeps things a little more even for year one. Those are my favorites. The guy who thinks he's outsmarting everyone else. He's got 40 bucks left and now he's just going to get a scoop up value. And it's like just Jacoby Myers for $28.

Yeah. The guy's just like devastated. Yeah, I like those guys. So thank you for coming. comment on, Bill. This is really fun. So, again, the reason you're here is, well, the reason we're really doing this right now is so we are going to bring back the Ringer Fantasy Football League. We've got the live stream on the Ringer Fantasy Football YouTube channel.

Go subscribe there. And that's going to be at Four Pacific, which, as some people call it, one Eastern. Wrong. One Pacific, four Eastern. I always get that backward. He was being so condescending to you. It actually was so great. Instant karma.

The most condescending. Also, not hard to remember Pacific versus East. Hypatts made it seem like he was remembering. Or a drug drop off Clue tether ball Like hit me in the back of the head But yeah So 4 p.m. Eastern

1 p.m. Pacific We're going to have the Ringer Fantasy Football Live draft And so the missing piece We have everyone in the league It's going to be really fun Got to have a punishment The missing piece has been

What is the punishment? For last place. I'm not going to lie, Bill. We have something we think You're going to be very excited about. I've heard on your pod Basically the bar is Could we ask Bill to do this?

Right. Yeah. Which I think is a fair bar. It's like, well, people with children do this. One of them got was like, will our bosses be willing to do that? You have to eat as many hot dogs as Jerry Chestnut did over the course of a week.

I'm like, we're not doing that. Yeah, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. We tried to let our listeners know like, hey, be reasonable with these ideas, but we got a specific email from a guy named Scott.

Yeah, shout out Scott. Who has the best idea I've ever heard. It is the best idea we've ever heard. So we're doing best idea first? Are you going to do the other? You'll see. You'll see. You'll see.

So the point being, Scott was in inspired by the fact that we were like, oh, the funniest one we thought was two cold cans of soup. We had a suit guy. Yeah. And then Sean came on and was like, I wouldn't do that. We're like, what do you mean you wouldn't eat? It's food. And he's like, but I would do vanilla ice eyebrows slits.

We're like, you'll do slits in your eyebrows like vanilla ice, but you won't eat cold soup. He's like, yep. And we're like, okay, people are different. This is going to be harder than we think. What was this cold soup thing? He wouldn't do it. Somebody email didn't ask, the loser has to eat two cold cans of soup. And we were like, that's gross, but not unreasonable.

It's not like. And Sean was like. He called it fear factor. They sell it for money. Sean was like, oh, I would never do cold campus. They'd definitely do that in Seattle. He was like, but I would shave lines into my eyebrows. Which I never would have occurred to me to ask Sean Fentanycee.

Will you shave your eyebrows for this league? He's from London Island. That's where the Long Island comes out. So Scott was inspired by that conversation and sent the following email. I think it's the best email maybe we've ever gotten to a show. It's a good idea. Fantasy leagues across the world start doing this. We can get this to be a thing.

So Scott says, I were over hiding it. I know, fuck. We should have under. No, the idea sucks. Under promise and over-delivered. Idea is terrible. No.

So Scott emailed in and said, I had this idea, why not make a punishment draft? Oh, hold on. It would be great content and could be streamed and promoted along with the draft for the actual league. And before the league begins, each participant could pick from a pool of reasonable punishments

so the ones you're already collecting. Two cold Kansas soup, vanilla ice eyebrows, Jersey, maybe we'll put you in a Lakers jersey, you know, all these different things. and if you, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're losing them. People send that to me all the time. We'll put Chris Ryan into Celtics jersey.

That's, you know, we'll put, we'll see. Think about that. He would reject it. Yeah, we'll put fantasy in a Celtics jersey or something. But yeah, so that was a pretty good idea from Scott. Then Scott said, or to make things even more interesting. Yeah. We could just add an extra round to the draft

and make the draft punishment, make the league, last place punishments. Actual things you can draft if you come and last during the draft. You can decide how early you want to start drafting. It's like a defense.

In the ninth round, if you're like, you're like, you know what, I just want to take the punishment of you got to wear shorts to work for a week. That one's the least disruptive that I would totally do that.

I'm just going to take that in the 12th round just so I don't have to get stuck with I got to eat 15 hot dogs. If Sean is like, if Sean is like, I think I'm terrible of fantasy and I'm going to lose this pick. So maybe the third round,

He's like, you know what? He's like, free space, no punishment? I'm taking that one. And we actually, and you can decide where the punishments rank, and we have 10 or 15 different punishments. So you're drafting it to take it off the board for yourself? Correct. You get to do it.

So you get to do it. You basically, it's like, how confident do you feel that you'll win? If you feel like, you know what, there's no way I'm getting last, and you're like, who cares? I'll take my punishment dead last like a kicker. And if it's something terrible, I'm not going to get last anyway. But if you're like, I don't know how good I am at fantasy, maybe I'll spend an eighth round pick on.

I got to wear puka shells around my neck for a week. Or any real man is waiting until the last round. Exactly. But that's the thing. You're really confident. And you're like, I don't need to do it. And then you're like, well, you get stuck maybe with the last one. So do you do it before you're a kicker?

Do you have to? And so I think we should add, I think one of the punishments should be no punishment. It should be a, it's like a bingo free space. Because I think it's really interesting how early somebody would take that. But I think this works for a variety of reasons. But I also think every league has the issue that this league has, which is people will do different stuff. And I actually think.

Right. There's this constant thing of like, oh, this guy lost and won't do the punishment. And it's like, if you actually are drafting the punishment and you're agreeing to an event, I think it would make it easier for leagues to enforce weirder things because some people are just like, that's not, I never in a million years would have thought Sean would shave his fucking eyebrows like vanilla ice. So I think you're actually getting more stuff. People are going to be more down. So. What do you think?

I mean, when you laid it out, I actually thought you were going in a different direction that it was drafting a punishment for somebody else. Oh. So you stick like, High Fitz only gets to have one thing drafted for him. And you're like, I know High Fitz hates spiders. Yeah. So it's like round 15. You're like, I draft.

High Fitz has to do. And then that's it. And then he's off the board. That's great. But I feel like... I think the other way is better, though. Hypothetically, you're saying I could use a fifth round pick and make Sean Fentasy eat the cold soup.

Well, the thing is, there's going to be two ones that nobody wants, right? So then it becomes a game of chicken with those last two. But like you said, if you're a real man, you don't care. You're not going to get last. yeah so survivor has done pieces of this right where they've had like little challenges and you've had to decide how much money you want to spend and it definitely works like if one of the options is no punishment how high would that go yeah like what if mal's like no i wouldn't do that what if sean's like fuck it i'll just take the no punishment the 10th round p y o p it's like pick your own punishment yeah put it on the problem is it it is too advantageous to the person at the beginning of the last round because i think that's where most

these go. Well, you think? You think the no punishment square will go all the way until the end? I would do the punishment for the kicker. I don't care about my kicker. Somebody's going to try and get I don't give a shit of what kicker I have. Yeah, I think it's going to go. The final third round is where all the punishments will go. Because it'll go punishments and then kickers defense. It's going to be a run

I would do a punishment for the kicker. Me too. I mean, honestly, the worst punishment for me would be like you cannot drink coffee for a week. That's a good one. I'd probably draft that in the second round. I'm just getting rid of that now. Now you're like, it's like, it's like, the 13th round.

You're like, maybe I'll just do the comedy. Yeah, I just don't want to do this ever. Spotify's Bill Simmons passes away three days into no coffee challenge. Yeah, yeah. That would be bad. Anyway, I think something horrible would happen to me. It's like the highlight of my day. We ran out half and half and half because we were away and we came back and half and half was bad.

And I drove to Starbucks at 6.30 in the morning to get coffee today in my glasses and t-shirt. And I was like, nobody will see me. Kate Hallowell-O works for the ring. I was like, I was a block away. I was talking at Starbucks. I'm like, oh my God. They're everywhere. I probably should not do that.

Anyway. So you don't hate this idea? No, I think it's good. It's interesting. But I think you need, if it's a 10-person draft, right? So I think you probably need like 14 or 15. We're going to go through 25 quick ones with you right now. A little under 30 here, five of which are just to piss you off.

And then like 25 actual. And we'll land on 12 to 15. That'll be the pool. So then all 10 of us on Monday, those punishments would just be like players. You can pick them whenever you want. I wish I had not mentioned the no coffee for a week. That's actually a good one. That's going to have to get out.

That one, Craig, you'd be like, I'm fine, I don't drink coffee. My favorite idea still. That scares me for you. I don't know. No alcohol for me. You're the most normal people I know, but no coffee. I'm naturally motivated.

No, no, no. Naturally, if we ever have to do anything at 8 in the morning Pacific, Craig wakes up, he's like, sorry, man, sometimes you're so hard to get going in the morning and, like, sleepy, I'm grog. I don't know what it is. Drink coffee. You think you're bad at 8 in the morning. I'm like, no, you're like,

I guess if I got no sleep one night, yeah, I'd be like, I wish I could have some energy right now. If only there was something that would help me wake up and feel better. Do you adjust as you get older, though? Because that's a common mistake for people. Like your 20s are different than your early 30s and your mid-30s and your early 40s. Everyone's like, hey, the second you have kids, buddy, you're drinking coffee, which might be true. Yeah. And you're going to have like four-tails.

He's in a ceremonial-grade matcha. You say four like it's like 12. It is. You have zero right now. Two kids is like 17. Four is exponentially more than zero. I can't believe we're talking about this. Yeah, I want three to four children.

I don't think that's not an insane number. You'll be drinking coffee. Coffee's in. John and Kate Plepey. I don't know. Freak! I'm the furthest from all of you guys, from everyone here of having kids. But my favorite thing anyone's ever told me is the difference between two and three is you go from man-to-man-defense to zone.

Yeah, yeah. I get it. No, that's true. It's still not an insane number. There are many families. And if you have four, it's like bullfighting and Pamplona, whatever, when it's just the people running around trying that's get hit. That's four.

Jumping up on the fence. Yeah. I'll start drinking cold brew then, I'm sure. Yeah. So here. Why don't you just drink coffee? I don't, to be honest, I don't like feeling jittery.

And if I have like a giant cup of coffee or cold brew, like I feel like shit, so I just don't drink it. All right? That's weird. So, so we're going to go through. So again, so I did nominations here,

starting with, I still think my favorite, the dumbest idea that's to me the funniest that people would do. I still love the two cold cans of soon. You think that's fine, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Vanilla ice eyebrows slit, which I wasn't even going to put on this list, but Sean said he'd do it, so I'm putting it on. I would have probably said nobody's going to do that until Sean was like, I would do that. I'm fully. Would you? eyebrows,

they grow back though, right? But here's the thing. They take a long time. My eyebrows and Sean's eyebrows are different, and he was, like, I think that would be tough for my career. Me and you have,

you guys can't even barely see my eyebrows right now. That's the only one where I'm like, if it was that or something else, like I actually would have to use eye. I can't take an average of three to four months to grow back. Oh, that's terrible. But he was that. Dude, I got caterpillars.

I got caterpillars. That's why we were shocked. Also, like, we're on video doing pods. You can't have, like. Sean was like, oh, yeah. So do you think that one should be in the pool? Only one person will get it, or nobody could get it. I mean, I would be more bullish on, like, a sideburns thing.

Hmm. Like a... What if it's ore? 10 weeks of, like, Elvis Munt and Chop sideburns or whatever, like, sideburn situation that could at least go down on the top of your jaw. We could do it. What if we did? Like, you can't shave?

for a certain amount of time. Like a playoff beard? But that's like fun. Yeah. Danny's like going to do that right now. That's actually, yeah. For me and I would like it. I think you should do either eyebrow slits or like the vanilla ice like the side of your head.

Well, we just did witness for rewatchables. What about the Amish beard? It's like the chin strap. Yeah. The chin strap. That's pretty good. So other ones here, these are just things that I don't know if they're necessarily right for our league. we've already been about this, but things that a lot of people do these,

and these are like the most popular answers of what are you doing in your leaks? These are things people say. Bill, give us your just gut reaction. Yes, no. Yes, no, should we this be it? You have to take the SETs at a local high school on a Saturday morning. That's pretty good. I've heard that one's been done before.

That's pretty funny. That's a pretty big commitment, though. Would you do it? It's a huge commitment. I thought nobody would do it. It's through, this is our biggest argument. He's like, no one will do it. I'm like, it takes three hours.

It's not about that. It's any high school offers it on Saturday. Yeah, exactly. Sean Fentasy, who has a child, is not going to, on his Saturday, go take the SATs. It's just not going to happen. Well, that's the whole punishment's going to take two hours. I don't know.

It's a good idea. I don't think it makes the final cut. Okay. A lot of other things, these are just not as cool, but just like a bumper sticker on your car of the winner's choice for a determined period of time.

If you had to drive around for a year with a bumper sticker that said, female body instructor, and you couldn't take it off. FBI, female body inspector. Oh, inspector, not instructor. Maybe instructor. What if just,

wear the FBI t-shirt. Like, that's pretty good, right? That's like, worse. Like, that's like, Sal can't win more than anyone can lose. Would you throw that on your car for a year? I think it has to be something that wouldn't get the car defaced if you were like a target part of, I don't think that would get it to face.

I think it has to, yeah, within reason. I think that should be honest. You know those ones where it's just like the outline of the woman's body, the sticker? Like, you have on the back of a truck? You have a very specific vision in my, she's bumper sticker. You know, you don't know that? You don't know. Yeah.

Like, something like that that's embarrassing, but it's not offensive. So it's like that license plate frame, eyelashes on the car. Eye lashes on a car is really funny. Have you seen these? It's like giant eyelashes over like on top of the front lights. Yeah. And it looks very funny. Did you do that?

I mean, that sounds awful. I think a month. I think a month. Yeah, yeah. A year is crazy. Shorts and flip-flops to the office for a week. Nobody judges anything in an office anymore. I wouldn't even notice if somebody did that.

Okay. You have to wear a headband during a podcast, but you cannot address it. One podcast, you have to wear a headband. You can't mention it. We got to make it. We got to level up. That's pretty good. I think it's the broken nose thing where, like, if you break your nose.

The Rip Hamilton mask? Yeah. But you can't mention it. But I almost think that's more reasonable not to mention because somebody would be like, they broke their nose. Right. The headband is like. Oh, yeah.

That's a good point. You'd be like, I know what happened. The headband's like, what the fuck. Okay. Yeah, right? Like, Mal and House of R just has to wear a headband. That's pretty good. Okay.

So we like the headband. Okay. So a lot of people emailed in about trying to program the rewatchables. Bill, I can't tell you, hundreds and hundreds of people want to program the rewatchables. They want everyone wants to. How is that a punishment then? Well, the only good, the best one that someone suggested was the losers' punishment is that the loser's favorite movie is the rewatchables episode. And they're on it, but they can't speak.

So, like, Chris does Sicario, but he's not allowed to talk. He's to sit there the entire time and he can't say anything. I love that one, which is pretty funny. Just imagine the takes you have to hold in. He's just, like, sitting in the producers. No, no. He's just at the table and you don't talk to him. Can't talk to him.

It's like you, Sean and Van, doing Sicario next to Chris. Mouth tape, like Gen Z. Well, it would be Mow's version. This one, I like this idea. So someone emailed in and said it's a, you had a column where you wrote about MVP awards, which is still true on our job. Josh Allen argument last year. That MVP award should be commensurate to the size.

So, like, last year, Josh Allen versus Lamar should be, like, the Stanley Cup size MVP, and then shitty season should be. The loser should have to wear a medal that says, like, fantasy loser on their pods for a week. But how big the medal is is commissurate to how bad your team was. So your ratio, like, if you were, if you actually had a lot of points for, but you had, like, the most points against, basically be really small. Maybe we'll even, like, only make you have to do it for, like, one episode. but if you hatched had the shittiest team

and you got your ass kicked, then like you're going to have to do it, it's going to be huge metal or you're going to have to do it for like longer. It's like a big clock. It's like a big clock. Yeah, it's like a flavor flame clock. Yeah, it's shameful.

But basically the idea is something about making it bigger or larger based on the actual performance of your team, which I kind of, I like that. Can I give you one? That's not another thing. I think it would be funny to make somebody tweet

once a week about something that would be controversial, but like somebody just every week on a Tuesday at one, they're like, I'm glad long-form journalism is dying. There's no context at all to it. Right. And they just, everybody's going, you're the problem. And they just have to do it again.

I just have to take it. I think some sort of planned tweet that's not like obviously too outrageous, but something. That's pretty good. I love that. Yeah, it's pretty good. Weekly rage bait? Should that be the weekly lowest person's punishment? I was trying to think of what kind of zag and media you can.

could do that could be funny like this. But I think that would long-form journalism. I just think we'll be a lighting run. Weekly rage bait is good. This one's popular. But again, it just basically, whoever loses, your least favorite team. You tweet like, I'm glad Netflix supported Dave Chappelle. Right.

No context at all. That's it. The jersey of the team you hate the most. That's a classic. And I think it's, I think it's, I think it's, either you wear it for an episode. Or it's behind you. Or it's behind you for like a week or one or something.

I think you wear it for an entire episode. You got to wear it. I did this for Christmas. I wore a Lakers when I was on a BIA countdown. We wore a Lakers sweater. I had to wear a Lakers sweater. That's a great one. What did you lose?

I forget Jalen and I had some sort of bet and I lost and I had to wear Lakers. It was like Magic Johnson there and you're just like, Yeah, it was bad. Did Magic Johnson give you shit for wearing a Lakers sweater? He was delighted. Yeah. Delighted in my memory.

That's a good one. I just I just think Sal would love this The winner Everyone else in the league Get to throw tomatoes Whoever comes in last

Tomatoes Very old school And I'm telling you right now Like I would If the last pick came around And I'm like that's the worst one left I'm like yeah fuck you If I come and lash

You guys can put tomatoes I'll take the last Like yeah sure Like I think Sal would do it too I think enough people are down Some people throw tomatoes Maybe I assume we're not gonna

I feel like I don't want to throw a tomato At Mallory Rubin But People would throw tomatoes at you It feels like People would love to be a charterline HR violation. Right. I love this.

I'll do it. I'm volunteering. I love this next one, which is the outro of whoever, like, of your podcast. You have to say, you know, you'd be like, thanks to Hau, thanks Eduardo, and I got dead last in fantasy this year. You'd have to stay that for like six months. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to a predetermine amount of time.

Maybe it's a week six months. Thanks to Carlos. Thanks to Kai. Thanks, erronek. And I got last in my fantasy league. Yeah. Just like a little. That's pretty good.

It's pretty good. I mean, that's like probably the easiest one you can do. Everyone in the draft has a podcast, right? I think so. Yeah, yeah. Could record an outshot of the show. Just like they could be the tag at the end of the show every time.

This one I couldn't believe. Frosted tips. Oh, I love that. No one's doing that. He was the one. He loves this idea. Oh, dude. Yeah, Danny Lexx out.

Fuck. A idiot can't really do it. Or wouldn't, his hair's not long enough to do it. It would be like a, it would be too cool. No, we're going to get you a wig. For us, we'd have to, like, grow out the what hair we do have. So it's like the, you know, just like the ring around the side of our Larry David.

Yeah, Larry David. Or you have to bleach your beer. Leach your beard. Is an ear piercing like in play or no? Like a permanent piercing? Or like you have to wear a fake earring. You put ear piercing in the list? Ear piercing isn't that hardcore.

I don't know. I feel like it's kind of hardcore. I think when I'm learning, you're putting a needle thing. I learned from this experience is Craig is hiding behind the brass of the company, but Craig doesn't want to do that much stuff. I don't want to get my ear pierce.

That's the only one. That's a huge deal. Then it has to go on. That has to be a lot. We're adding ear and piercing. Craig's you could do that in the fifth round. He's like, I'm not piercing my ear. I could do my nipple instead?

Yeah. All right. Oh, yeah, that's totally. Absolutely. Can I submit for ear? Piercing TBD? Piercing TBD. If you want to pierce somewhere other than your ear,

sure, absolutely. This one, I don't know if you're going to get this, but a lot of people were like they should have to eat the same diet as Kai for a week. You know, our beloved producer Kai Grady, are you aware of how, like, the food that he eats? He's the lowest. palate we've ever heard of. He eats like eight,

he eats like white white rice. We went to Chipotle and in Seattle, I think, and I saw the receipt for his order. And it was like some special chicken bowl, but it was like remove, like minus everything except for literally just rice and beef. We call him Guy Fieri, the mayor of flavorless down.

But anyway, it's all right. We can do another one. He like eats chicken nuggets. So you have to do the Kai diet for a whole week? Yeah, he eats like a six-year-old. Like Kai, I think, would submit a list of things that he actually eats, and you have to eat from one of those.

Like that would kill Mallory. She would drop that in like round four. Just take it off the table. A lot of people submitted this. This is, I can't tell how I feel about this one. Rewatch your favorite teams, worst loss ever, and you either have to do a recap pod or article for the company about it, which a lot of people submitted.

I don't know if that actually works. Some people like the pain, though. People love the pain. I watch Pat's Giants was on NFL Network, the first one, which we probably should have lost. The second one actually bothers me more. First one is like we kind of just lost. The Giants were better.

We were better. The second one, I can't believe. The second one is like, how is that Giants team a champion? It's unbelievable. It's weirdest champion we had in the century. The Giants score the game winning touchdown there because Amad Bradshaw's ass broke the goal line because they were letting him score and he was trying to, they were trying not to score touchdown. And it's bizarre.

That actually probably is a good punishment. Yeah. Okay. So here, I'll throw that in there. this one is stupid, but I kind of have a feeling that some people will hate this. I think this is the easiest one, and I have a feeling some people. Everyone in the league submits a person that you would want the loser to call on their birthday. And the loser has to call all 11 people.

So I would submit like my mom. And then if like Craig came and laughs, he has to call my mother on our birthday. And we have to do that every single people. And you do that for all 11 other people. Everyone submits who they're called. Mrs. Hyphitz. It's Craig Orlbeck. Hey, happy birthday. 68, huh?

Fitz would love to do that. Like everyone, but like, and part of me is like, that's easy. And part of me is like, man, now it doesn't have time to make a letter. I don't want to record them. I want, that needs to be content. Yeah, yeah, yeah, on the show. You have to call and say happy birthday. I don't even want to call for pizza.

I just thought that was funny. That's really good. So call nine relatives. Yeah, you have to call nine relatives and wish them happy birthday. Nine assigned relatives. Yeah. Why isn't anchovy pizza on this? What do you mean?

Dude. Yeah, we, eating an anchovy pizza? I just, like, when you think about, like, when you think about, like, you have, you have to finish two slices of anchovy pizza. Who's like, cool, I love anchovy. Nobody likes an chival pizza. Or three slices? Yeah, I mean, I would do it all at once.

That's not that bad. That's funny. I haven't heard. Really? I mean, I don't love anchovies, but it's in Caesar salad dressing. Like, you know. No, but it's just anchovy pizza. You can't put anything on it.

This is where the full Italians are like he's half. Well, the 90s is that. Inchubs are disgusting. This is like a way back track. I mean, I don't want to eat an anchovy, but anything that's just normal food, I feel like, I could do that. Do you guys talk about anchovies? What else could we put on the pizza?

That would be... This is where... Didn't you do the Subway sandwich thing with Sal? This is forever ago and you were just like, wait, and you really late in the game, you're like, wait, you can hit each other with anything on this. It's like, I feel like other people should get to pick what's on the pizza. And it has to be gross.

It's gross enough if you can pick, but like the pizza place sells it, so it's not going to be like fear factor. So maybe you order it specific to that person. I know. I don't know if there's anything gross about. So you don't think eating is... No, I think a weird L.A. food would be funny. There's a lot of weird shit people eat in the city.

and like, weirder than anchovies. Oh, my God, I don't know. I mentioned beef tallow on the other show. Maybe I just discussed about anchovy pizza. I don't know. This is weird. I don't know, man. I think anchovy pizza is a gen X millennials thing.

Was it from Ninja Turtles? Where did it originate? Because I remember growing up, anchovy pizzas was like the grossest thing you could imagine. Oh, really? And now you guys, it was like a thing. Well, like, people are also scarves. Like, my parents are Brussels sprouts and broccoli

because their parents who just boil them or whatever. I'm like, yeah, that's fine. We were in Boston and I got a Caesar salad and had anchovy on it. I was like, no anchovy plays. The guy is like, okay, and then comes back and there's freaking two anchovies on my... I do hate that. I wanted to, like, throw it out of it. I was like, I told you no anchovies.

But does it bother you that... Because I don't really think about it, that anchovies are just cut up into Caesar dressing. Does that bother you? Something about... I don't like that. I don't like that. I kind of not want Bill that to eat anchovies. I kind of...

It's so gross. Hold on the pizza just straight at like a pound of anchovies. of an hour. At least favorite food. Enchovy pizza is from... What about anchovy muscles and olive pizza? Oh, God. Chovies muscles?

Yeah, muscles. No. Or anchovies clams and olives or something. There's something in there for everybody. Yeah, you get an hour. It tastes like the sea. This is... The loser must wear a thick Pooka shell necklace.

They wrote until they won another fantasy football game. I think realistically, like, a week or a month is probably more accurate. I love the Pooka shell one. Pooka shell one. may or may not have worn a pukeshell at one point in my life. Oh, when I was like nine years old and went to Hawaii with my family, I definitely came back bleach tips, pukeshells for the next week at school. Yeah.

Should we do cargo pants, cargo shorts for the trip? They're coming back. Everything that I wore growing up is coming back. Yeah. Okay. This is dumb, but Loser has to release a song on Spotify. I just thought that was funny. But no, we're not going to.

I feel like no way to do that. I'm going to say you would ever do that. This is the dumbest one that made me laugh. loser has to carry six loose hot dogs or half a box of cooked noodles in their pant pockets for 24 hours. Half a box of cooked wet noodles.

In your pants. Like in a giant cargo pocket. You have to have it on you for a day. Loose hot dogs. For a full bag. It should be like 12 hours. Yeah.

Is that a hot dog in your pants? Is that a hot dog in your pocket? Are you just happy to see me? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. That's what kind of dumb. Could you add one about like the winner of the draft gets to tell the last place guy

there's a concert has to be in like a 25 mile radius and you have to go to this concert. I was thinking about that too. Like the worst concert you can imagine. Yes. And you just have to go. Benson Boone. Gray, we're forced to go.

See, that's what I was actually thinking of that too. I like that. But I was sure. Yeah, what's the, what's the worst? You get to go to a concert? There's some concerts. Sometimes you're like, wow, imagine going to that. I'm sending you to a corn concert.

The toughest hang. Oh, well, they do the, this. They send high fits to the wiggles. The wiggles is like selling out. Staples Center. Hypertz is the only... Wait, are you here with anybody? Where's your kids?

Wow, that actually... That's like the forgetting Sir Marshall. Hyphitz is like half potato, half potato. It's just kind of nuts. Yeah, that actually would be more difficult. Okay, all right, that's what I'm bad. All right. This one, I think, is the simplest.

We just choose your phone background for a year. So like your lock screen. Yeah, we choose your lock screen for you. It should be lock screen. What's the thing? The holder thing? Phone case. Phone case.

Oh, phone case. Lock screen phone case. Some elaborate phone case. Just like your phone is now dominated by the bad choices you made in fantasy. We think about it constantly. That's probably my favorite one. You think about that 1800 times a day. Yeah.

That one actually quite is ever present. Pink glittery ones that has like bunny ears on it. It's like ginormous. Oh, I like that. Remember the ones that the ones that have like the big thing that comes off the back so you can like hold it better? You're talking about the, what are those called? Popsockets, but there's a thousand.

That would be my nightmare. And it has to be a, it has to be a lock screen photo of the guy that you hated the most from your fantasy team. Gosh me in the last place. It's just Trevor Lawrence, the person gets to pick the picture. Just staring at Trevor Lawrence every time you go on your icon, whipping his hair back. Yeah, yeah. You love the wear the Nelly Band-Aid on your face for a week on there. I think that's funny.

That's pretty good. And then also just, I never, you don't, yeah, you don't acknowledge it. You know what? I love the headband, and you can't talk about it for one episode. I just can't, like, imagine Sean Fantasy talking about one battle after another, just with a headband on. He can't talk about it. I just think that's so good. The last one we've written down here is the loser has to slip Gen Z slang into podcast content for a week.

I'm picturing it, like, um, practical jokers. We just give them a phrase, and they have to, like, use it in a sentence at some point. Yeah, we, like, tell you that you have to slip the word, like, mogging into an episode. Labubo. Right. Exactly. Good luck. Right, right. Mogging?

Mogging, yeah. Mugging isn't, it's not a bad thing. No, we wouldn't give you an... I actually don't know what Mocking means. I've been pretending for like weeks. I actually have no idea what it means. Craig Mogs us. Mogging is basically...

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The attractive person takes pictures with ugly people to make themselves look better. It's kind of like on Hinge. It's like, generally speaking, the general rule is the hottest person in a photo in a group photo. Like, that's the person

because generally you don't put your hotter friends in your Hinge photos. Like, or else you're mugging. Like, they're... So, like, I, you know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Is there a phrase for putting the family photo when you put the person at the end who's not married to anybody but is dating somebody and they go on the end because it's easier to crop them out?

That would me for a while and then I've slowly got more. Now you're like around the arms around. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So here's where we got here's where we have right now. We have a good like 10 to 14. Let me see her. So this is, I might be forgetting some. But ones we have. So the coffee is the best one. No caffeine for like. How do we enforce it? How do we enforce it? How do we enforce it?

How do we enforce it? It's honor. It's honor among fantasy people. Okay. I would totally abuse the honor and secretly have the coffee. Like, what are you guys talking about? Let me smell your breath. Yeah, breath check.

You got a coffee breathaler. Yeah. When you come into work. Fuck, that's actually really funny. Do they have those? No idea. You look really worried. Yeah.

He's brushing his teeth like four times in the morning. No coffee for a week. Why do you have five minutes? Two cold cans of soup. We're putting vanilla ice eyebrows lists in here. Hell yes. How big are the cans? A normal...

Like a Campbell's can of soup? I think that's the point of contention. I think, yeah, because it's like the difference in tomato soup and like clam chatter cold is brutal. No, you can't do clam chatter. That's probably how... Chicken, I like clam chatter. That has to be cooked, though. It is cooked.

It's like a hot dog. No, some of those soups when it's not cooked, it's like... Clam chatter feels like that's like, how did Hyphitz die? Oh, it's a long story. Fantasy draft. this cold clamp chowder. Yeah, that's fine. Some of the suit is not cooked,

there's like the gelatin-looking stuff that it kind of cooks out or whatever when you warm it up. That's like the fat congealing. Yeah, that's not great. No coffee for you. Two cool cans of soup. Maybe I would shape my eyes.

Finale ice eye breastlets, headband during a pod but can't address it. Your idea for weekly rage bait. I like that a lot. God, that one I think that one, I think that one in particular would make me draft of one of my punishments early.

Anyone coming to come to come around on Tucker Carlson lately? Goodfields, doing some good stuff. He had a good point, actually. Weekly rage bait, that's five. So the outro to the show that I lost the league. Like that one. How long do you have to do that? A week isn't that much. That one's so easy. You should do

that for a month. The tweet thing's killed me. Has Beau Nyang been in a funny sketch yet? People are like, what the fuck? Should I start a gossip pod? Oh, geez. Comment below. Oh, my God. So, wait, the key point for that, do you have to write it, or do we, does, like, fucking Sal win and Sal gets to write these on your account?

Well, you don't just get to pick what you post. No, you can't do it. There has to be some vetting process. I think that champ, yeah. The champ gets to write the post? Oh, my God. Yeah, we'll make it a committee that will decide whether they're going to actually get canceled. Okay.

So, rewatch your favorite team's worst loss ever, do content on it? Do we want that one? I think that one's too boring. Yeah, it's kind of lame. Some people would actually enjoy it. Yeah. So anchovy pizza. This one, I think it should just be straight anchovies.

I hate anchovies so much. It's like you get cheese and bread because you lost. It's like you should have to eat anchovies. Enchovies is really gross. You can go to a deli and buy like a half pound or whatever anchovies and like that's lunch. No. I like the pizza. Yeah.

All right. Well, we're going to get triple the anchovies though. Fine. Like otherwise you're going to get away. I don't know. I think you're kind of. Triple anchovy pizza is fine. That one's like you get pizza for lunch and like, oh no.

I might draft that in like round five. Just take that out. The birthday call one, everyone submits. Should we have two? Should it be 22 calls a year? No, no. Can you text? I think 11.

I think nine calls for you. Okay. Are they on air or off there? Well, I don't know. We'll see. It can be anyone you want. It could be a random person. It could be a friend.

It could be someone you know. It'd be hard to record that. Okay, so I find 11 calls. When are the draft? You guys really want to do this concert thing. You're going to send me to the legal. concert thing. Concert's pretty funny.

Concert, we choose your phone background for you. It would be really fun to figure out what concert, too. I think I'd spend like 12 hours. I'd have seen Craig to the worst. Looking at like Anaheim and Orange County. You got to go to the concert in like scene garb, like the clothes of the scene, right? So like whatever the scene is, insane clown posse or Taylor Swift or whatever.

You have to dress up like. Taylor Swift would be. That's an expensive night out. Right. Oh, I forgot my favorite one that anyone emailed. that Craig insisted. Craig didn't want me to even talk with this. He was like, they'll never do that.

And I was like, in LA, they have obviously a lot of gym classes here. Yeah. They also have boot camps. They also have booty camps, which are for twerking. So the loser has to do a 90-minute twerk, like a booty camp. Learned a twerk. Yeah, right. That's pretty good.

You would do that? Can there be video of it? I said there has to be video of it. It would have to be video of it. It would never. They would never. Who's right here? Just Sal do it.

I wouldn't do that. But if you, but if you like, oh, I'm a man, like, I'm going to, and it falls to in the draft, and then you lose and you come in last year, you're going to do it? No. God damn it. All right, fine. So, we actually. We have the phone case in the phone background.

So we have, so, yeah, sorry, no coffee for week, two cold cans of soup, vanilla ice, eyebrows, slits, headband, derog, can't address it. Weekly rage bait. God, that's wild. Recorded outro to the show is six and chauvi pizza seven. That one, I said, I can't play pizzas. the punishment. Birthday calls is eight.

Winner of the draft is, or concert is nine. Choose your phone background for years 10. And then we still actually have puka shells. Do you want puka necklace? I like that. Do you know what those are? I've been very quiet for that. I do.

Yeah, I mean, it's not that bad. I was thinking about weekly rage bait. When is we going to make a good movie? Should we scrap this entire idea and just weekly range made is what happens? No. Should we just scrapped the idea? I'd be so excited every Tuesday at one for when weekly range bait came out whenever the tweet is going to be.

How about? pull that out of this pool? What if whoever scores the lowest points each week, we get to do it to them? No. The weekly... It has to be... Did Oscar So White go too far?

Right. My God, that would be... That is fucking good. It's almost like the Colin, the Che Colin, when they write the things... When they write the... It's just kind of trapped

putting it out in the world and people just getting furious. Oh, the only one that we... Not on the list, right. The piercings. Do you want the piercings on the list? Do we want 10 or do we want to have like 13, 14? I think you got to have more than 10.

Okay, so then piercings is 11. Did you add puka? Pooka shells is 12. Also, the piercings is pretty fun. Like the flavor, flave. Oh, the metal, yeah. Probably the line cross. Piercings?

I did look it up. You're like mutilating your butt. Apparently, if you pierce your ear and you don't keep the earring in, it'll close back up in a day. So maybe it's not that bad. I still feel like HR would be like, maybe for the earring. Maybe it's like a fake earring,

but you just have to wear. on your pod for like two weeks. I think I'm fine with that. Yeah. Yeah. Like a fake earring works. Okay. That's a huge difference.

All right. All right. Fettle now. Yeah, I guess piercing's probably a line cross. Okay. We're out of, I'd say teas are too much. Okay, so there we go. So that comes out to 13 ideas.

That's great. I think that's good. And we have one, I think we should have one free space. There should be one, no punishment that you can draft. Just in case you get last you, there'd be no punishment for you. So how early would you take that? It does create that. create, you know what it does?

It reveals the cowards. It throws a wrench into the draft. It does. I'm going to be drafting my punishment early so I don't get stuck with rage big. Exactly. Like that one is by far the most terrifying. It's going to be the 10th round. You know, I'm not going to give you any draft advice here.

But I'm just, it's going to be the 10th round and someone is going to look at that no punishment option to be like, you know what, fuck it. Yeah, when you start getting to like basal tootin or no punishment, that's kind of like, you know what? Like, I'll pick up somebody on the waiver wire. Yeah. And then you're a coward. Yeah. It's like hitting bitch. in beer palm, you know?

I feel like Van would intentionally lose so he could do the rage bait tweet every week. He's going to write it himself. He's going to have the best team. He's tanking like the Sixers. God, I like that one. Should the rule be for Van, we have to write really normal takes on his?

Right. Just like the most milk toast takes. Good luck to Notre Dame this year. It's just Magic Johnson tweets. Yeah. Oh, totally. Yeah. Oh, a month of Magic Johnson tweets would be good, too.

I kind of like that. Let's add that. Let's add that, too. time out of money. Oh, I would kind of want that. I might draft that first round. Josh. So I can get it.

Over Chumar Chase, just 101. No, I actually want rage bait. It's just why quarterback should never paint their nails. I feel like Craig is, Craig, you are actually like born to do the rage bait. He's the same person who did the cannibalism. That's what I'm saying. Stand by that one.

Yeah. Oh, my God. That's pretty good. All right. Great. All right. Thank you for coming on. Thanks for having me.

Yeah. And so there we go. So ringer fantasy football, YouTube channel, Monday, one Pacific, four Eastern. We'll predict about it at that time. He cracked the code on the time time. I got it right.

All right. So yeah, it's going to be really awesome. So yeah, and we can't wait for Craig. What are your posts going to be? A quarterback shouldn't paint their nails. Yeah, there you go. Can't wait for more of that. All right.

Thank you to Bill. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, D.K., thank you to Kha. Thank you to Carlos. Thank you, Ron. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, everyone, everyone emailed in all the punishments. Except for the people who thought that you guys would eat hot, like 70 hot talks a week.

That was insane. And of course, thank you, Lord. Lauren. Bill, do you want to shoot? Do you want to do it? I'm Danny Haifitz, and I lost my fantasy league. That's a good one. It's so good.

Bill, do you want a shout out of a band? Yeah, you have to shout out a band. You have to shout out a band. Oh, there we go. Buffalo Time? Buffalo Tom. Oh, Buffalo Tom. I don't know who that is.

I'm not. You had that really ready to go. I know that was like no time at all. Buffalo Time. You like just listen to Buffalo Tom? Buffalo Tom or is that? It's just listening to them. They were in my head.

How did you get into Buffalo Tom? Well, I was listening to an early 90s mix that I have. Okay. Yeah. Buffalo Tom. Alt Rock. Yeah. Love it.

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