The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking Buy-Low Fantasy Trade Targets, Fantasy Court, and the Assassination of William McKinley

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

The guys are power ranking the top potential trade candidates you can make a move for in fantasy as the fantasy trade deadline approaches. They then answer some Fantasy Court questions and some emails before closing the show. (00:00) Start of the show (03:00) Power Hour: Fantasy trade targets (09:44) Jameson Williams (12:05) David Montgomery (15:20) Derrick Henry (18:30) Jaylen Warren (21:33) A.J. Brown (30:41) Aaron Jones (33:12) Omarion Hampton (34:35) Trey Benson (35:23) Rashid Shaheed (45:00) Ringer Fantasy League update (48:41) Fantasy Court (01:06:39) Emails Check out the 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings: https://fantasyfootball.theringer.com/ Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. This episode is sponsored by Chime. Bank Smarter, Progress Further. This episode is brought to you by American Eagle. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyphen today. I'm joined by Danny Killiam Crick-Roebeck. And today it is Power Hour, where every Wednesday we power rank something. And we are going to power rank the trade targets for fantasy football ahead of the trade deadlines. Depends on your platform. Sleeper, generally speaking, the default deadline and sleeper is the end of week 11, which is weird.

So I guess the end of Monday Night Football, which is week 11 this week. So I think that's November 19th is the trade deadline and Sleeper. Yahoo, the default trade deadline is Saturday, November 22nd. And then ESB on the default trade lines Wednesday November 26. But go to your settings. Go actually hit the little gear icon check because your commissioner might have changed it. And we're going to power rank basically trade targets ahead of the deadline. People that are playing well that we want to pay for, people that aren't playing well that we think are by lows.

DK, how do you go about trading in your 67 leagues? I think, you know, approaching people individually and asking them to do stuff is kind of the way to go about it. rather than just sending out blanket offers. That's your move at bars too, right? Totally. Do you guys want to do stuff? Yeah, I think trying to make it personalized is the way to go. Because if you just send out blanket offers, people will just say no and then move on with their day.

But yeah. It's like Lil Dickie in his show, Dave, his move when he goes and hits on women is he says, what is your openness to being hit on right now? And I feel like you can actually translate that a little bit to how you trade with somebody, where you almost go up to them and say like, hey, look, what is your willingness to making a trade? What's your willingness to potentially ruin your team and or make it better? What's your willingness to getting ripped off by me right now?

That's actually, yeah, there you go. So there you go. The little dicky approach to trades. Okay, we're getting just a bunch of trade targets in a moment. But first, we're going to take a quick break. This episode is presented by Chime. Bank Smarter this season. Fantasy football is all about strategy.

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He's like, all right, let's get down to brass tax. We got to make a deal. Yeah, it is. Right from there. We're coming back in right off that. Yeah, that is why I make trades. I have a radical approach if I text people and ask, what do you want?

And they tell me and then if that works for me. Yeah. Honestly, that's how you make trades. You stop worrying about you. You have to take two seconds to think about what that person needs. And that's like 80% of it, honestly. This is like Hallie Roseman.

I kind of just won't trade with them. Yeah. I just, I don't trust it. We've made small trades, but I won't do anything big. We almost made a massive Justin Jefferson trade in our dynasty league. I didn't do it.

everyone's just on the edge of their seat here in the old dynasty um Lamar jackson or Justin Jefferson trade I will say though just general general stuff just approach to I think frames all this because there's we talk a lot about bylaws in the beginning of the year I think the end of the year's a little different the again it sounds really simple but I think people forget this you can't just make people make a trade it's fantasy football people's stuff going on like finding the right team is half the battle so yeah yeah for sure the obvious like maybe this sounds super obvious and if it does that you guys can make fun of me or whatever but like the first just identify your timeline are you a november team or december team like what's more important if you're just

scrapping for a playoff spot deal with the playoffs when you get there like you need to you're a november team you need to win the next four weeks and make the playoffs but if you're kind of already locked into the playoffs you're just trying to lock in a buy and just like you're already going to make the playoffs you're december team you're thinking about weeks 15 16 17 17 and if you get the buy just 16 17 so like sure like that's an important thing to figure out about what your needs are like November December The second one obviously is like, what do you need positions? Like, you know, you don't need me to tell you. If you have Jaden Daniels and Kyler Murray, you're probably screwed a quarterback.

Like, you know, you need a quarterback. Just if you have Brock Bowers and Tyler Warren, then you're like, okay, I can get rid of a tight end. Figure out what you need and then what do you have to trade. And then it's not complicated, but go through every team in your league from worst place to first place and be like, who's your opposite? You need to find your bizarro team. If you have two tight ends that are great, find a team that has none and are stream. being terrible ones every week. And then hopefully that team has what you need.

And if there's a team that has, like, you need running backs and you have receivers and they have running backs and they need receivers, like that's the ideal. If it's not that simple, mix that with the November, December thing. Like if the first place team, team, they don't want to make a trade. But maybe you're, you're like scrapping and you have like Garrett Wilson, who just is now going to be out another three or four weeks. Garrett Wilson's useless to you if you're like four and six right now. And you need to just get back to like, you know.

You need to get, yeah, you need to start winning. Yeah. So like the first place team might want like Garrett Wilson and Terry McLaurin, like some of these guys who are hurt and aren't going to play for like six weeks. They might want those guys or Omerian Hampton for the charges. The flip side is maybe if you're first place, you can go against some of those guys because they're useless. But the point is between the positions and time, just find someone who you don't have to like Svengali respoutin trick and trick. Just find someone who like has the opposite of what you need and just make a deal that helps both teams. You don't have to trick anyone.

Like many things in life, the key here is putting a little effort in. Yeah, just take two seconds. Just take a little time. Just take a little time. Treat your trade partner like a human being. Right. Yes. Don't send them some bullshit offer.

And the, I think the truest trade advice I can give you in fantasy football and probably in life too is the most transparently bullshit thing is if you have to really talk up the player you're getting rid of, it's just the most transparently bullshit. Like unless you need a very specific. reason why you're getting rid of the player. Yeah. You got to give up something to get something. Like, to be honest, you just got to be

transparent. I do feel like honesty work. Like, if you're like, hey, I'm really deep at exposition and this guy's good. I'm willing to give them up for this. I honestly think that's just like a transparent, easy approach and you can actually have like an open dialogue rather than both, like, lie to each other in a group in a text until, you know, both of you say no.

Just be honest with him. Here's why I want that guy and here's why I'm willing to give up this guy. The trade has to make sense for it to work, unfortunately. Like it's kind of rare that you can truly just like bamboozle somebody. Like it does kind of have to work and make sense both ways. And it's understanding the difference between sometimes like what you want and what you need. And sometimes you can't get what you want. But like if you really need the tight energy,

you need a quarterback or something like that. Don't let perfect get in the way of good. Yes. That's a great rolling stone song. Is that really sorry? I didn't know that. Well, you can't always get what you want. Oh.

It's like perfect enemy good. I didn't know that one of those. You can't always get. What you want. It's great song. It is funny how those early, some of the key to those early hits are like, man, they just had full,

they just had all the sayings. They did. Like none of the sayings had been mine. I mean, their name is a saying. It's kind of like old movies. It's like, man, they had the concepts. Like, God. No one's not a bank robbery yet.

It's like guy loves girl. Wow. Oh, this resonates. Teen wants to get laid. This is going to make a billion dollars. Wow. The Beatles were like, have you guys heard about like love?

Like fuck, no one's hit that yet. Yeah. Yeah. And then also the most timeless rule of all, which is an addition of what we're saying, don't lowball people. The blurb rule, it'll sometimes easier to get a player if the blurb is negative. Like if you open a player, like nobody makes a trade without reading that blurb. And it's probably the first and last thing they'll click on before they do the deal.

And if the blurb says, stock soaring because it's just crushing this amazing talented player versus D.K. Metcalfe scoreless again. Once again, gets like three targets. Hey J. Brown, Jesus Christ. What are you going to do? It really is easier to get a player if their blurb is not enough. So anyway, just keep all that in mind. So with that said, we're going to get to trade targets for the trade deadline.

And really seriously, make sure to check your trade deadline. How did you rank these, by the way? By the ones you like the most? I ranked them in the order that I thought would be good for a conversation. And we can figure out during the show what is actually the best target here. Yeah, at the end, let's, let's, let's, elect the single best trade target. I think that is the right move.

Ooh, I like it. Starting with the number one person is most intrigued by. Wait, wait, wait, we're doing Tom Tom, right? Oh yeah, sorry. Come on. He's been off. Tom Tom was off last week.

I know, you're right. He had a hammy, but he's back. Like AJ Brown. We'll know he's going to try harder. But yeah, we're going to power rank all these. Well, really at the end. But we're going to do this power hour style. So every two minutes you can hear this sound.

Good to have you back. Mr. Club. Look, they never left. Number one. And again, these aren't all by low. So these people are playing all right. But I was going to say this first one goes against what we just said. So I'm curious.

Number one is Jameson Williams, the receiver for the lions, which is funny because D.K threw this out. And it's like James and William's kind of in battle year and then has one great week. And D.K.'s like trade target. But I kind of agree. So D.K. Why? He's in two good weeks.

He's two best good weeks in a row. I think really this is a gut thing for me more. And I recognize that it's pretty risky because Jameson Williams has been all over the map this year. He's been very high variance in the, the sense that some days he'll get five, six targets and be a big part of the offense. Then other games, he's absolutely invisible, which actually makes me think he'd be like, he could be had for a reasonable cost. He's not going to cost you like a really big player. But it just felt intentional to me that the way that Dan Campbell incorporated into their

offense, into the Lions offense after taking over play calling this week, got him involved more in the short and intermediate, the crossers, the things where he can catch the ball and run rather than just straight up chucking it downfield and hoping he can make a play. So there was an intentionality there that I felt and kind of just a gut feeling that they're going to try to use him a lot more. They recognize that when they're using him a lot, it makes their offense much more dangerous. And obviously, they signed him to this big contract. They talked about Wuppel offseason and he hasn't really done a lot this year.

So I think maybe he could be a second half player. So James overall risky, but I think the upside is there. I don't disagree with you that also the Lions have a nice schedule coming up that we'll get into. But the only tough part is just like people probably have been holding on to him all year on their bench, trying to play him when they think it makes sense. He's been burning them. But he had a good week last week. And even if you didn't start him last week, they probably started this week against the commanders.

And then he blew up. So I do feel like you might have to offer something decent to get him. Yeah. I think, yeah. People could use it as an excuse to sell high too, thinking he might be really high variance. What that said is easier to acquire a wide receiver than say a running back or something. Always, always, always. I think the biggest issue with fantasy rankings is something I want to talk about how to fix with you guys next year is rankings don't account for the fact that four weeks in, everyone wants running backs.

And everyone's trying to turn receivers into running backs. Yeah, like, like, I've been trying to acquire a running back in my home league. And I go to each team and I look at their and I'm just like, there's no way anybody's going to give me one of these like two or three running backs on their team, even if they're mediocre. It's all they have. So speaking of which, number two guy here. And I'm curious what you guys think, Craig, you have. David Montgomery, the running back for the Lions. Yeah. So I think you could get away with this one because he hasn't had more than 10 fantasy points since week five. And he's been pretty mediocre all

season. And a little bit to DK.'K.'s point about Dan Campbell. Campbell calling plays. Dan Campbell likes David Montgomery likes David Montgomery likes David Montgomery likes David, the style he brings. He likes the one-two punch. He likes evening things out a little bit more. And the numbers bore out yesterday. Like David Montgomery out snapped your beer Gibbs, 75 to 25% in long down and distant stuff. Montgomery played the highest percentage of snaps he's played all season. They were under center way more. There was way more play action.

And also, so I think he's been a little light in the touchdown department. I kind of think that's more variance. He's still like the guy who's playing the most snaps inside the five-yard lane, all that stuff. Like, I'm just kind of betting on the lions. Also, they have four of their next five games are indoors. They have three straight home games. They play the Cowboys.

They play the Giants. So I do think that I'm just kind of betting on David Montgomery, kind of getting back to old school David Montgomery over the second, over these next, you know, seven weeks. I totally agree. David Montgomery passes the blurb test because even like Yahoo, it's like Montgomery was overshadowed by a huge performance from Jimir Gibbs. This is the time I agree with what you're saying, Craig.

Like the line's going to score a lot. To your point, the lions play the Eagles this week on Sunday football. And then after that, the lions don't play outside again. Like not for fantasy. Like the lions after the Eagles, it's like home for big giants, home for the Packers, home for Dallas, which is going to be a bar like a lot of points at Rams for SoFi Stadium, home for the Steelers, and then they're at Minnesota, who has a dome. So the Lions are just going to be in a dome. And since 2022, which is when the Lions really started this version of it really began. The Lions averaged like seven points more indoors than outdoors. So that's not like, you know, a guarantee or anything. But I think the Lions are going to go bananas, just actually scoring Bonanza going forward. So all of them. So with that said, D.K, would you trade? for Jameson Williams? That's a good one.

Sure. Yeah. I would rather win. Well, yeah. I mean, also, you usually always want a running back than a wide receiver. But in terms of just value, like, let's say for some weird reason, you are deep at running back, you would get rid of David Montgomery

to acquire James and Williams, D.K. Yeah, I think that's in the ballpark. By the way, Anthony Amico, texted tweeted at us that Tom Tom plays during transitions in the show loot on Apple TV. Oh. The Vince Vaughn show? Is that with Vince Vaughn? I don't know.

Lute. Or is that with? No, that's with Maya Rudolph. Oh, that's the one where she's like McKenzie Bezos knockoff. Yeah. Oh, is that right?

She's like, she's the one. It's like McKinsey. She like takes over. She divorces the richest man in the world. Oh, yes. Billion in cash. The Vince Von show is bad monkey.

Right. Tom Tom is in. Luke. Okay. If anyone involved in transition, maybe they, maybe they're fans of the show. We haven't we seen Tom Tom Tom on ESPN before in Trent? They were doing Monday night football. They were doing big energy by Lotto. Oh, right. So kind of. But really Tom Tom, Tom, if you think about it. Number three, similar vein. I have Derek Henry, the running back for the Ravens, which I feel like is Derek Henry's probably the single most talented player on an elite team that is super requireable now because he has been.

bad enough that we've made fun of him. He hasn't had a nuclear Derek Henry performance. When the Ravens offense was all healthy, the whole frankly defining part of the Ravens was other than injuries was Derek Henry fumbling a lot, literally showed his ass. I mean, like I don't, but Derek Henry, after this week, it's Cleveland, which is a tough defense. Then it's like the Jets. They get the Bengals twice.

The Steelers were Derek Henry ran for 200 yards last year. I don't know. D.K., where are you at on versus Derek Kennedy could lose a little playing time to get Mitchell versus Derek Henry could just go nuclear down the street? stretch again. I think it's more likely the latter that he'll just go nuclear down the stretch. This is a great trade target, I think, because my initial reaction is, uh, like, this is kind of tough because right now my confidence level on just him in general is so low. But it's, it's Derek Henry. I mean, he's done this year in and year out. Um, I don't think he looks any, he doesn't

look significantly different than he has in other years in terms of like, when he gets going, he still looks really fast to me. Um, I just think the, they just haven't really got the run game rolling. but yeah, I think that he could be had, like you said, he could be had for a lot less than, you know, he could be traded for. I think this is a great one, Hyfitz. I fully agree. Watching Baltimore this year, like, the last week, they played Minnesota, who's a really good defense and they give the Ravens trouble.

And he had a mediocre game, but like, he's just been a little thin in the touchdown department. And then we talked about how he, like, can't punch the ball in from the one-yard line. But I still think it's all there. And I think the Ravens are still, like, getting their shit together and getting better. and Lamar's getting healthier. And I totally agree that I think it's more likely that he has a classic Derek Henry. Just like he gets better in the second half of games,

I think he'll get better in the second half of the season. That was the thing for the longest time, too, is yards per carry went up in every month. It was just bizarre. No, I think this one just makes a ton of sense. They're scheduled so bad. Jet, bangles, Steelers, bangles. Dude, when the weather gets cold,

tackling Derek Henry? Yeah. Can you imagine? Again, the only tough thing is just like, Is somebody going to get rid of Derek Henry who's like they probably spent $45? This is where you could include a running back and a receiver. You have to. Henry and someone else are just like it's where if you have a bunch of players that are on your bench

and this is where you can approach someone who has Derek Henry and they might look at it. And you're hoping they look at it as this person who I'm getting is probably going to be just as good as Henry to running back. And I could use. Yeah, I know. You got to offer like ETN and I don't know, a receiver with it. ETN and I don't know, Cortland Sutton. Probably not. Probably not doing that. You have Cortland Sutton.

You hate Coralyn Sutton. He's been really frustrated. I almost put Crohn's Sutton on this list alone. He's been so fucking annoying this year. Never draft Broncos. If you're willing to do Broncos, I will say, though, the Broncos to me are a by-low solely for the virtue that everyone just watched them on Thursday in football and is out on Denver because they saw that game.

And I'm like, Coral and Sutton will just be better going forward solely because everyone's agreed by Donicks and Sutton are bad. It's not hard to be better going forward based on what he's done in the last five days. But yeah. Jaylen Warren running back for the Steelers is. Oh, interesting. Who has this, D.K.? I got that.

Okay. I think there, he's not necessarily someone who is looked at as a bad fantasy player, but I think he does still suffer from, he's just not a star. And I think, you know, depending on what position when you look for, may probably trading for like a quarterback or a, you know, receiver, something like that. But I think Warren has a real potential to be like a low end running back one slash high end running back two down the stretch, just a really useful and reliable running back for your team. He's getting most of the play since he came back from his injury.

So 70% of the rushes. He's about 10% target rate around 16 touches per game, which I think could go up as they play easier teams down the stretch. The last, let's see, the last three games that the Steelers have played, the Chargers, the Colts, and the Packers all have like pretty good defenses. And going forward, they play the Bengals, Bears, Bills. The Ravens have a good defense, I think. So that one will be tough, but then the dolphins after that.

So they got a really easy stretch here coming up of defenses. And I think that Jaylon Warren could like far out play kind of like his perceived value right now. He's like the most dependable offensive player on the Steelers right now. The only fear with him is he's a little bit of an in between the 20s guy. He just doesn't get into the end zone that much. Yeah. But the bad defenses is what you have to bet on and getting in the red zone. Like Rogers is actually throwing a lot when they're inside the 10 and getting these like short little touchdowns.

That's why he has so many touchdowns this year. and he doesn't have a lot of yards. But no, Warren is great, super dependable. I wish he threw to him a little bit more. I feel like he doesn't catch as many passes as he should. But rock solid. The other Steeler that I like a lot for Bilo is D.K. McK. McK. McHaf for the same reason.

Everyone just saw the Steelers get embarrassed inside at football. That's a good one. Rogers is cooked. And D.K. McCaff. And again, to that schedule coming up. Yahoo Blurb. DK. Metcalf disappears in lopsided week 10 loss. Great blurb.

And then you look. You're like, you have five points, one point, 14, then six. I think Metcalf is one of the better receivers that probably the best receiver that the person who has him is like actually nervous about playing him each week. And obviously he has a ton of upside. But I think Maccalf is just missed on a few big plays too recently. Yes. Like the touchdown at the end of like in that game. Like I think Rogers is not going to stuff from him to make half the ball.

The problem is I think a lot of defenses are going to treat Metcalf the way Jamar Chay should be treated on the bagels, which is going to be like, yeah, we're going to make Calvin Austin. Who can't catch catch the ball. They're going to just take away McCaff and go like, yeah. Calvin Austin is. Is he just going to be. Are you going to get sent back to the bench, Craig? I think yes. Honestly, it depends on like Roman Wilson can step up.

He makes a few garbage time plays every game, but there's not a lot of other options. Calvin Olsen has two strikes. If he has another horrible drop, Rogers will not tile it right at fourth, unless he has to and they run out of people. But yeah, I think Metcalf and Warren are great choices. Do we get it under the gun there? Wow, we're being really efficient today. Speaking of wide receivers who just get doubled and don't get thrown the ball,

dare I dare I suggest AJ Brown who this one is the this is the buy as low yeah as bold as you can get this is the lowest buy of all bylaws

I mean just a crucial letdown on Monday night football the amount of people who probably went into Monday night football having needing six seven eight nine points thinking they got a shot and he gives you three two catches for 13 yards

two catches for 13 yards Two catches for 13 yards, three targets. And look, it's been, it will have been, by the time next week comes along, it'll basically have been a month since A.J. Brown did anything good for you. Week nine, he was ruled out with a hammie, kind of like out of nowhere. So you missed him. And it was ahead of the trade deadline. It was kind of like, yes.

Then week 10, they would buy. And then week 11, he has three points. So it's been a long time. And look, I've been as critical of the Eagles offense as anybody, but I'm like, you could probably get him for next to nothing. and everybody who has AJ Brown, including myself on a team, you've been figuring it out without him, like Troy Franklin, Romeo Dobbs.

Like, there have been guys that you've grabbed on the waiver ride this year that you are playing over AJ Brown half the time because he's been so bad. And if you look at the Eagle schedule, they play the Lions, the Cowboys, the Bears, the Chargers, Raiders, commanders, bills. Five of the seven teams they're playing are bottom eight and fantasy points allowed to wide receivers.

It is a huge risk, but I think people are so fed up with AJ Brown, who's the wide receiver 42 on the season. Like, could you trade Alvin Camara for AJ Brown probably after Camara pretty good game this last week yeah maybe Ken Walker could you could you give up Ken Walker to get AJ Brown that's I think I guess I think people like you said Craig are totally fed up with them and would and would part with him for not a whole lot he's basically had two good games this year the Devonze Smith is outscoring him I mean maybe that was obvious but Devante Smith has more fantasy points than them this certain receipt there are certain players

mostly receivers where the actual vibe right now with managers is like I actually want this guy off my team. It's AJ Brown. And then I'm like Brian Thomas who's hurt as an eye ankle's brain and like, but those guys are available for such crazy discounts. The funny part is, what do you what would have to happen where you could put AJ Brown in your lineup and actually feel good about it? You're betting on a good player and a good team. Even doubt. I know, but even Dallas in week one, he went 59 minutes without a target, which is just incredible. But again, it's just smart by the dip because in real life he's still a top five real life receiver even if he's not getting the

fucking ball so it's smart yeah this is a good by low because I personally want nothing to do with the AJ Brown thing and I would like I would give him away for very little shot white like you could give like kind of his random running back shot white for AJ Brown's a good yes that's that's that's a great example I bet that's doable uh ringer fantasy football shows brought to by Fandall Thursday night football continues to deliver and Fandals keeping the energy up with their two million dollar Thursday night football jackpot place in any time touchdown score bet using your profit boost and if your player scores the first or last touchdown of the game you'll earn a share of two million dollars in bonus bets Thursday football this week Patriots Jets um I feel like

Justin Fields might play for the Jets this week even though Justin Fields it feels bad he's a nice guy but he has had one of the worst passing stretches I think there's ever been for a quarterback where he's, I mean, under 60 yards passing at four games this season is insane. I don't know what he's over under. I've never seen anything like it. No, it's actually kind of crazy to the point we actually think Therod Taylor is switching him on a short week would be better, even with almost no practice because, frankly, there's no chance to Rod Taylor will do worse than 54 yards passing, even with no practice.

Like, there's no way. Either way, I can't tell you, the Patriots line, I don't care what the Patriots line is. I would bet the Patriots line, or at least the money line, I think the kicker over on field goals for the Patriots, whatever. Like this is, I just would be really surprised if Mike Vrable is not able to to just coach it. Just basically put the bumpers up on the bowling alley around the Jets' offense this week. Unders on the Jets, Patriots to win everything.

I have never felt so strongly that a Jets, that an offense was so bad about a bunch of people who are individually likable. I like Aaron Glenn. I like Justin Fields. I like Brise Hall. They seem like nice people. Thurrod Taylor. How unfortunate.

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Flips. Maybe if the defense didn't know it was you. If you could put on Jared Goff's jersey. Yeah. Yeah. Then like, or I guess Benjah, bears, whatever, I think that if they didn't, if it took them like a little bit, because once they knew it was you, then they would just not care. But if they, he could get you like the little pop pass thing.

Yeah. And maybe you got like two plays to break one. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. I'd be the lions because I could probably most, I could pass for a skinny tall white kind of like Jared golf.

Yeah. So like they, you'd have like three plays and then they figured out that you're probably not Jared off. Like Justin Fields said in week two, Justin Fields had 27 passing yards. I feel like I could do that. I just feel like right? I don't think you could. You know, I could if Dan Campbell is scheming it up for me, you don't think I can get 27. You could do the pop pass then. You can probably walk out with a week of practice. You could walk out and like do the little pop pass. Just give it a Jameson Williams. First play pop, little pop pass. Second play is like I screen against. Scramble back screen pass. I might be at 27 already. And then they figure out who I am and they, you know, yank me.

we should do we're gonna do this the end of this season when we do the rewatchables and we recap the season we all should get to pick one thing that we think we could have done on the year like there's one play that like i could have done that maybe that would be yours dk would you trust yourself more to hit to complete a screen pass or kick an extra point hit a screen pass i think the thing about screen is because it goes behind the line of scrimmage you're like that doesn't mean it's zero yards like a screen could be like 25 yards that's far for a normal fucking person to throw a football. I feel like there's just more variables when you're kicking it.

I don't think I don't think I don't think there's way less variables when you're kicking it. There's there's less variables than just chucking it to a guy. On a, you have to as a quarterback you have to do an offense. The screen passes the screen passes the offensive line allows the line men to chase you before you pass the ball. I guess it depends on what kind of screen we're running here.

Yeah. I think there's like a little bit more variable screen or like if I have to do anything tricky. I was thinking you just like hike the ball and throw it to like a smoke pass. It's too like a like a water receiver bubble screen. That's what you don't even have. But you have to hike the ball. You don't even do that as the kick. You have to catch them. You have to catch it.

What are the variables on a kick? I don't know. It's fucking, it's not that easy to kick a ball. No, but I'm saying anything that affects the kicker weather is going to affect a ball. I trust myself to throw a ball more than I do to kick a ball. Is that okay? 19. Why did you ask me if you're just going to try and talk me out of it? I did. He asked. Okay, well just okay, do you think you'd rather kick it then?

That's cool. I just had to quibble of the variables. I think the field goal is the least variables of any play. I think, okay, variables is maybe the wrong word. Variance is what I was thinking. I think the ball could just come off your foot totally different. I feel like I'm more confident of my ability to throw a football than to kick it. I love just tossing a hot potato between you two and then bailing.

Jesus Christ. This guy could argue about truly anything. Like legitimately any subject in the universe. It's a skill. It's a skill. I mean, I was right about that part, but it's fine. Okay, yeah. I'm just saying, there's no variables that don't kick.

You just go up and kick it. You don't think the snap and the holder variables? Yeah, but it's their job to put it down. You don't have to deal with the hole. It's the center's job to hike the ball. You just have to catch it. Well, but you have to call, there's a cadence that you have to get right. Oh yeah, you have to do.

You're having to do all that too. Okay, okay, okay. I see. I think there are more I'm fucking prisoner in this argument. I don't even care. We'll move up.

I don't want to fucking talk about this anymore. I'm just saying. It's complicated. I'm like, I'm going to do that thing where hey, Hifitz, excuse me for a minute.

And then I'm leaving. I'm leaving the argument. Vikings, next top target, all right, next trade target here. Vikings running back Aaron Jones. Do you care? He's never had to kick a field. I thought Aaron Jones could fucking kick a field goal.

I'm going to, I think he did kick something. Why does it feel familiar that he kicked it. I don't know what. I think he did. Anyways, Aaron Jones, I think just clearly has way more juice at the running back position than Jordan Mason. I think Jordan Mason is a good running back, but he's not very fast, not very explosive. Aaron Jones provides an element of speed that the Vikings desperately need.

And in this last game, in fact, in the last two games, and perhaps the Joanne McFarlane, McFarland, who pointed this out, basically he was getting the massive lion's share of the volume before he got hurt two weeks ago, he went out with like an AC joint sprain. And then this last week, against the Ravens, he, you know,

72% of snaps, which is like Belkow usage, ran a ton of routes, 15% target rate, got all the carries inside the five yard line, all the two-minute drill stuff. So he was the guy for them. And I think we could see that going forward.

And importantly, they have some decent opponents on the schedule. I mean, obviously they play the Packers and the Seahawks, which is not easy, but they play the Bears next week. week, the commanders in a few weeks. And then in the playoffs, it's the Cowboys and Giants and Lions. So some really good opponent matchups in that game in those games. And I think they're just

going to give the ball to him a lot. Chief McCarthy still hasn't really proven anything. I think they want to rely on their playmakers. So Aaron Jones, if someone is willing to part with him, obviously he's not going to be super cheap, not as certainly not as cheap as he was when he was injured. But I think there's proof of concept there that he's going to be the guy. I think Aaron Jones has been largely irrelevant this season. which helps your case, TK. I think people have had to make do without him for so long and even when he has played,

it hasn't really been that great. So I do think this is like an attainable. This is like an aging guy who splits time in a backfield on a mediocre offense. But I agree with you that when he's on the field, he straight up looks better than Jordan Mason, who I kind of was not impressed with in the time that Aaron Jones was out.

He didn't really do a lot with it. No. Aaron Jones. Cut off by Tom Tom. I mean, Tom, Tom, can't. Tom Tom, those that ended an argument. Did you look up to Aaron Jones kicking thing?

I don't think he's kicked the ball. I don't know why we both have that. It was weird. Aaron Jones playing Dallas first. Aaron Jones playing Dallas the first round of the playoffs is if you're going to clinch the playoffs, a pretty great person to target. Another person that I think if you are a playoff team in fantasy

and you are going to make it that you could target is a Marion Hampton, the running back for the Chargers. This one is, I think a good example of taking a leap, but you don't have to spend that much to figure out because Amerian Hampton, rookie running back for the charges, first-run pick, not lived up to how high you took him, obviously, because the injury, he got hurt, and then the charges tackles got hurt, so it's not the thing. Commitory Vidal has been good in relief, but Jim,

Jim Harbaugh said that Amerian Hampton probably is not going to be back until week 13. But if it's his first game back as a rookie from injury, he's probably not going to have a full workload in week 13, so maybe he'd have a full workload of week 14. That's December 4th. So if you have a if someone else in your league is a Marion Hampton and a Marion Hampton or the team that has him is, again, five and five just trying to get in the playoffs, you might be able to give them some kind of short-term player that they need now. And then you can just stick Omerian Hampton maybe on your injured reserve slot, not even use a spot on him for like a month, maybe, or three weeks. And then if he comes back and does usurp Camani Vidal, you'd have a Marion Hampton for the playoffs.

It's not like necessarily foolproof. But I think if you have, if the person as a Marion Hampton is not like locked into a playoff spot, I don't think they need that much. for him necessarily. So I think that's someone that I would go and knock on the door for for Hampton. Yeah, I agree. Hampton also just looks great. When he played, I fully believe in him as a talent. Exact same logic also for Trey Benson, the running back of the Cardinals, where he played like one game without James Connor, without James Connor, Trey Benson got hurt, went to injured reserve. I don't know exactly when Trey Benson's going to come back, but the Cardinals play the Bengals in

week 17 and the bagels are the worst run defense in the league and that's something where if you're in first or second place and you might get a buy and you want to just stash running back on i are just on the deep bench and then the person who hasn't maybe isn't going to play them i think tray benson just benson hampton super acquireable people if they're unlike mid teams right like it look for the teams that can't afford to wait around for these guys anymore yeah exactly the hampton team has to be struggling and they need wins now if that team's in first or second place it won't work but if they're like four and five right now or something Five and five.

Next up here, Craig, you put Rashid Shaheed, Seahawks, now Seahawks receiver after they traded for him from the Saints. This is smart. Yeah, I just think he's kind of been, I mean, he's irrelevant, and he's had two games with more than 10 points this year. With this, trying to trade for him, but basically I'm banking on it being week 11, and people have just made do without Sheheed for the whole season. And I really think he could crush and win you weeks.

Like, he's going to be high variance, but I think the spike weeks with him, I mean, you go back to last year on the Saints, the first two weeks with. the Saints, Derek Carr, Kubiak. He was the wide receiver eight. The first five weeks, he was the wide receiver 21. He was top 10 in yards per route run. He had over 70 yards and four of the first five games before he got hurt with the Saints last year. And Derek Carr was just going deep to him. And it's exactly what Darnold is good at and what they have been doing. Darnold is first an explosive pass rate in the league this year. He's first in air yards per attempt. And it's just a perfect fit. It's exactly what she he does well. And maybe you can bank on the fact that with

the Seahawks game, they won by so much. Shehid did absolutely nothing. I mean, he ran eight routes. It's not it's not his fault. Donald's. Dude, they threw twice in the second half. Yeah. So it's like, and maybe people are going to be like, oh, well, that didn't work. Like, yeah, he's going to be kind of an afterthought in this offense or whatever, or super boom or bust. I can't rely on that right now.

But if you're a good team and you kind of want to take a shot on a guy who come like week 14, 15, 16, could be catching 60 or touchdowns. I think Shaheed is a fantastic pick. And there's not a lot of other competition. Like, Donald does not throw to the tight ends that much. He does not throw to the running backs that much. There's like Cooper

Cup and Tori Horton, who was inactive last week. I think it really could be a blowup spot for Shaheed in December. The fear is that Rashid can make the Seahs better in real life just by existing and just stretching the field. Sure. Vertically, but also the best way to get teams to respect that is to hit a couple bombs through Shaheed. So I think that's a great call. I think they used them on, they used them on a couple like running back carries. They did. Yeah. So maybe there's some more to how they see him being utilized in their offense going forward. Obviously, that's not going to be like enough to bank on for fantasy. But, you know, Kubiak knows him and knows him well and knows how to incorporate them into their offense. I think

this last week, it was just the game got out of hand immediately. They scored two defensive touchdowns in the first quarter. And then all of a sudden, they're like, we don't have to do anything for the rest of the game. Yeah, it's funny. Like, I don't really, I still don't really understand why somebody like JSN, this entire season has been just completely unstoppable. And yet, AJ Brown was like, oh, yeah, they shifted the safety over. So I wasn't open. I'm like, why the fuck? I don't get it. Why do you just do that to Jackson Smith and Jakepa?

Yeah. I don't get it. I think, yeah, when you put it like that, it is. So you're telling me 10 defenses in a row have not thought of that against JSM? Oh, Jerry Rice. Oh, you know what? I was doing well for a while there. He's the only good player on the offense, basically.

But then they moved the safety over. I think honestly, like, I think Kubiak's scheme is like really good. Yeah. Obviously, you know, the way that they can scheme him open. And also, JSN has been awesome. like route runner he's been they've been getting him involved over the middle of field on in breakers on deep shots on wheel routes they had like one wheel route the other day where he like ran a route from the backfield at the running back spot so it's just yeah they're just really getting it's a

testament to the play calling because egy brown is obviously talented and is like a top 10 talent but they are not able to get him the fucking football i think also the difference is that when in jigba has been smothered sam donald has gotten touchdowns to troy horton and AJ Barner and Darnell has just has consistent maybe not consistently for fantasy found different like the same guy like a number two but Donald has really consistently

gotten the ball around the offense when it is in Jigpa so but yeah Kubiak that's why I kind of want Kubiak for the Giants like I think KubiX I've kind of seen enough like I'm impressed yeah I know I'm at that point too and Clay I'll take there's a Clay yeah Clay he's a Clay he's up nine

isn't there Klein oh wait is Klein? I think there's a clay and a Klein. There's a, yeah, Clay is in the Niners. Right, we just, right, because there were three K's. What's Klein doing? Klein is, where is in college? Klein is a scout for the Cowboys. Clay is the, no wonder the Cowboys offense is so good. Clint, Clay, and Klein. It's a lot of K's. There's three in fact. That's getting frisky. What are the middle names involved? Any number other than that is better.

The worst amount of K's. Let me check the middle name on all these people. Hold on. I think we did this. It's not, they're not K's. We checked. Okay,

we did. I'm pretty sure. A little smattering of other people. It was. There's no way we would be. I think they're all K-A-K. Kack. Clay Anthony Kubiak,

Clint Alexander Kubiak, and I can't find Kline's. Are you guys into planning kind of names like that? Like having like a larger like universe or kids' names are fitting into, basically. that isn't just like my father was named this, but you're like, they're all going to have these initials.

I'm not like against it, but I don't, I wouldn't do that. I don't want to yuck anyone's yum. I don't have strong feelings about it. Do you? I, I just never occurred to me.

And when I, I would just never think of it. And then when people do that, I'm kind of like, I don't even know. It's not that I judge it or not. I just kind of don't even know where they're coming from.

I kind of like it. Like in the Game of Thrones universe, all the brothers and sisters have like very similar names. I kind of think it's cool. But that's in the game of Thrones. universe. Do you like when the Kardashians name? I'll start with K. Not as much. No, it doesn't hit the same. I forgot about that because Courtney's a K. Chris, Courtney, Kendall, Kylie, Chloe. I actually never put that together. They're KKs too. We should mix the Kubiaks in the, in the

Kardashians. I can't think of a famous person that they would want to date less than a Kubiak. Times are getting rough. Time's getting bad for the Cardinals. Did you say Kim didn't pass the bar? Yeah. When she tried to study with AI? What, uh, what's Tom time? Did we pass Tom Tom? Oh, yeah.

No, I just was going to do a smattering of just other players that I don't know if I want to endorse, but I just think are a equirable. Cortland Sutton because everyone's out in the Broncos, just pure by low. If you need a receiver and like you can't get any bites, you like, you know what? People give you Cortland Sut. People have no interest in them. And it's like a dart. I don't even know if I endorse that that.

Romandri Stevenson for the Patriots. Just another kind of on principle. you've probably never been easier to get him all season than right now. And you know the second he's back, Vrabel slot him right into the starting. 90% snaps. Part of me thinks Vermonjure comes back. It's, you know, even if he misses this week, the Patriots have like the easiest running back left for, sorry, the easiest schedule left for running backs.

So if Ramonji does get the job back, he could be pretty incredible. But whoever has him is probably panicking about the injury mixed to Trayvian-Henderson. I mean, big games. He could kind of straight there. Trin does have a knee injury also. Yeah. it's it's probably fake because I think he had that before he had that long run but he did but sometimes these guys can like play through it finish the game and then they're actually

her channel in and then just other people that I think are acquire but Ricky piracill for the Niners and also just Brian Thomas Jr. for the Jags which is if you're really high if you really just want to take care like we always talk about oh I had Luther burden and I'm like you could do that but also I think whoever is Brian Thomas if they're not really hot I think they're like I think they would you give me anyone I'll give me Brian Thomas but kind of of can't out of prime give me anyone of value I'll give you. Brian Thomas. Because, so I think if you just kind of...

Would you rather have A.J. Brown or Brian Thomas? AJ Brown? Well, A.J. Brown can see these in my ankle spray and he just plays like it. But I don't know, like, I don't know if you have to give anything up for Brian Thomas because if you're five and five, he's not even playing. He's hurt. So should we decide now? Should we pick the single best trade target? The best one. I like David Montgomery because I just think he could, I think David Montgomery and Derek

Henry have like crazy ceiling. and haven't yet and you could acquire it's hard to pick a running back is just hard to get a running back i think my favorite one on here and and to be clear i don't feel great about that about this but i think that makes him much more acquireable is derrick henry i think his ceiling is infinitely higher than any of these other guys that we've talked about he could be a true league winner you're just going to have to give up a lot because like he hasn't been that bad he's just been okay yeah i think but i think is where you can high risk high reward yeah i mean again derrick canry down the stretch last year like just looking at the end of last season uh the last three games he had 160 yards 147 and 138 yeah

and he had like 190 in week one um so i don't know i feel like the the ravens will get back to where they were at some point here and he has a chance to just go nuclear i don't think any of these other guys have a chance to go nuclear they're more like just good values you know and a j brown also just out of, I don't know if that's a good idea, but it's basically if you're like, I don't know what's going on my season. They're going to shake it up. Sometimes you need a like fifth place. This happens all the time.

Doing the Jack Nicholson nod me. Yeah. A player who was bad all year then explodes in every sport every season. This is fantasy baseball. This is fantasy football. Basketball. We write off, let's say 10 players a year. One or two of the guys always explodes down the stretch.

It just, you never. So, yeah, AJ Brown, I'm, I'm in support of that as well. Okay. He's going to suck. He's awful. It's a terrible idea. I don't know why he came up with that. Ringer Fantasy League update.

I am in first. DK.'s in second. Salon House are tied for third. Craig and Sean are tied for fifth. Bangkok Craig. Mal is all alone in seventh, outside looking at the playoffs and the bill is tied for last.

I'm, my team is like the, I'm like the Steelers, actually. I'm going to sneak into the playoffs and get my doors blown off from the log card around. Blow the bloody toes off you. I'm like the fucking Packers.

I'm so fraudulent. I think my team's a little bit fraudulent too because I lost both of my starting quarterbacks. I had Jaden and Kyler to start the year. Now I'm going Brissette and Marriota, which it's fine, but I don't think I'm going to win. I really want to get you guys out to L.A. If you're in the championship, you too.

Oh my God, playing each other. I mean, I'm cool with that. And we need to put some tremendous It's a win-win for the podcast. Well, it's the problem with the fantasy championship, which we haven't talked about before the championship. The NFL schedule is in this awful place where it's between 16-game era

and the 18-game era, which is probably two or three years away. They're gonna do it. So now the fantasy championship is Christmas week, which means there's like two to three games. I think three games on Christmas now or two. That's Thursday this year. Then there's also games on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday.

So it's like, it's so just, dispersed because it's like Christmas morning you're like supposed to be with your family or whatever and you're setting your championship lineup and the and it's hold on I need to look at my phone it's just that's just

yeah yeah daddy would like peace and quiet for Christmas this year family and you're between like two people and you're like wait Aaron Jones is a hamstring he's going to play on like Sunday and I have to make this decision about playing him now on Thursday or not because that's when my backup you know what I mean

it's just it's kind of fragmented it's kind of crazy Wait, I don't believe there are Saturday games, Haifitz. It's just Sunday. Oh, I think there are. They just haven't been assigned yet. Oh, I'm looking at the schedule. Currently says none, but maybe it'll change. So I can double check, but the...

Thought they spared us for a moment. There's four games, five games here that are, that say TBD. There's five Saturday games. No, no, but there's only three. Sorry, two of the five are going to get moved. They flex them based on the games that are being bad. They move them. But there are three games on Saturday.

Oh, damn. Well, that sucks. Craig. Craig's disdain towards the schedule of the Bredel is my favorite. I only brought that up because you were like, you'll file us out for the championship. Which day? Christmas?

Well, the only thing I guess we could do is like, is if it came down to a crucial Monday night football matchup and like one of you was down 10 points and had a player maybe. Rams Falcons is Monday night. One of you has... Puka and you're down 20. That'd be sweet.

We can do a live show. Yeah, that'd be funny. Watch me tilt. We're going to do fantasy corp at first. This episode is brought to you by American Eagle. Gift, gift, hooray. Give great jeans this holiday season with American Eagle. They have all the wish list worthy new arrivals for everyone on your list,

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Nothing. Nothing at all. God damn right. Got something about A.E.com? No. No. All right, fantasy court. Definitely don't tell anyone about this thing that you're doing.

I don't really want to be handcuffed. The definition of an object is a material thing that can be seen and touched. Craig just in his powdered wig reading from the dictionary. With my monocle. The definition of an object. So we have a couple good fantasy courts here. And I actually usually read these and have a strong sense of who signed I'm on. Okay.

I really don't know what I think about this one. Okay. So this one's from Richard. Richie. Arbo. Anybody's seen Richie? You guys really got to watch it. Still I know that.

Send me the clip. I watch. Probably not good one day later, still don't get it. I thought you guys were going to say dick, but yeah. I'm so alone as a 31-year-old man who exclusively watching shitty 80s movies. I have no one to talk to. Craig, if you give me a heads up on the rewatchables movies, I'll watch them with you. I can do that.

Because I need to get back. Some of them makes me very nostalgic for the 80s. Yeah. Watch snake eyes that just came out last night. Nick Caves, Brian DePaul in 1998, good movie. Oh, love it. Anyway. Brian De Palma, he did Scarface.

right? Yeah. Nice. Okay, Hyvitz, go ahead. Sorry. I like De Palma movies. Blowout with Travolta's a great one. I think I said that recently on a pod. This one's from Richard. Right. I did that already. Sorry. I got lost. Arbon. The case here from Arbonne. My typical breakfast is just a granola bar and a banana with a glass of apple juice. Apple juice. Apple juice in the morning. Interesting. Hmm. But he says now for the urgent matter requiring your assistance. I'm the commissioner of our fantasy league with my friends. We have a stupid rule that whoever finishes in second to last place gets to institute a rule change for the following season with no league vote and no questions asked. Why second to last? So you try, make the loser bracket more interesting, I guess?

I guess. I have no idea. Okay. I feel like second might be the best one to do that. I think it's probably incentivized the bad teams. Like if you got to change a rule, you'd probably like really try at the end. It's like all about like trying to fix parity maybe or something like that. I don't know.

They also do have a severe last place punishment. But they- Severe. Severe. So, of course, this rule comes with the caveat that you do have to roster a real team. And you do have to play your best lineup. So in other words,

you can't just intentionally tank in the loser's bracket just to get the rule change. And we have a pretty severe last place punishment to further disincentivize foul play. Now usually the rule change is to score. Did he not give it to punishment? Now I want to know what the punishment is. I know, now I want to send us the severe punishment.

Email him. Come on, Arbonne. But usually the rule changed just the scoring settings like PPR or half PPR making tight ends get more points perception or adding a super flex or getting rid of it. Well, last year, the 11th place player who we will call Mack. Mac. M. Bone. Mbone. Added the controversial rule that whoever was in last place 10 weeks into the season could force any one for one player trade on their team.

with the person in first place. Oh my God. And Matt called it the great rebalancing. Seize the means of production. Okay. This is wild. Yeah. So they could force any other team.

No, no. The first place team. First place only, okay. Must accept any trade. So this is going to be Jonathan Taylor for fucking Kareem Hunt. Yeah. Worse. So unsurprisingly,

This rule has totally transformed the strategy and integrity of the league. No one wants to be in first. Flattening the top of the standings because no one wants to lose their best players. This is like cheating on your taxes, but for fantasy. This is like, I don't make that. It's like, I don't make that much money. All of this came crashing down in week 10. Mac was in fourth place entering the week.

He is Jonathan Taylor. But Mac had the most points scored on the year. So the three league members on the top of the standings, the people in first, second and third place, made a separate group chat with some of the, with, with each other. And they convinced Mac's opponent to bench their entire roster. Collusion. Mac had already started Jonathan Taylor in the Germany game.

So Mac is going to beat this guy because he's benched his all his players. Then the top three seeds all benched all of their players, which forced, so Mac won, the top three, he's in fourth. The top three people lost. They all benched their players. So the person, Mac, who's in fourth place, now is in first place after 10 weeks. Yeah. So you had, I thought they had a rule that you had to make your best lineup.

Well, we're getting that. So now that this has happened, Mac is on top of the standings at 6 and 4 after 10 weeks. Last place is insisting on acquiring Jonathan Taylor straight up for Joe Mixen. Who has not played all year and will not play? So Mac is adamant that sitting these players is collusion and goes against the the intent of his rule, citing the general requirement to set a real lineup. But people have been manipulating their rosters all season. And most of the league is happy to see Mack as the one to suffer for his own monstrous creation.

So people have already been manipulating their rosters to try to not be in first. Probably why six and four is in first place in this league. I guess there is a difference between manipulating something independently and colluding with others to do it. Yeah. So, yeah. So as the commissioner, my first impulses to push the mixing trade through. then set a leave vote to terminate the role of the season.

We're willing to act in whatever way the court seems appropriate. Now, I want to start with this. The act of creating a group chat and conspiring to bench all of your players and then convincing his opponent is the definition of collusion. Right. So there was collusion. I feel like the question is not whether there was collusion. They are very much breaking the rules by not setting their best lineup.

I think the question here is not whether they broke the rules. They absolutely together colluded to break. a rule, the question is, is this funny enough to justify breaking the rules to have this guy be the person to- But like, tell me if you guys discreet, there's no question that they colluded to break a very specific rule. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the guy who's in first was the guy who got 11th last year. He's the guy who got 11th and invented this role.

So Matt, the great rebalancing was his idea. So Matt, he has to send John Taylor for- The guy with John Taylor came up at the role. That is, yeah. Yeah, but that was like, naturally what happened. and they like colluded to get him into first. Well, have there been other examples of group collusion this season? I think maybe it's like someone played a player over this.

I don't think anyone's benched all. And if they have, that would actually be important to know. I don't, I think we should assume that no one has benched all of their players to take a loss. I can't tell because this is this guy's rule. It's hilarious. They'll get rid of it after this year. The rule itself so's chaos. And that's what is happening.

Like, that was the point of the rule was to make the season chaos. Also, that is one of your core tenets of your league is that there's going to be a chaotic rule. Yes. You just have to live with it. You have to set your best lineup as a rule, even though nobody's been following it. I think there's a difference between like you're playing Trey Tucker over Alec Pierce and you're going to bet. And then there's like, I'm going to bench all my players to lose. Everyone.

And then there's everyone colluding to benching. all of their players, which probably should, I mean, here's the thing. The right answer here is probably they should have to have set their lineups. Basically, whatever lineups were set last week have to be reset for this week, flip in the obvious by week players. And then whoever ends up in first has to make a trade. I don't like that they benched all of their players. They started zero people. They convinced everyone else to bench out. I think that's the thing. It's like, the funny answer here. The funny answer here being removed from it is like, it's funny that this guy made the rule and he has to trade Jonathan Taylor for Joe Nixon. But like obviously it's fucked up. I might have been okay with

if they all fielded a roster, but it was just the worst players on their team. Yeah, you know why? You know what they screwed up. Ronat, can you play the intro again for fantasy court? Definitely don't tell him. That's the first rule. I don't really want to be handcuffed. The definition of an object is a material thing. They left a paper trail. Definitely don't tell anybody you're doing. It's the first thing we say is definitely don't I can't have this between us. I can't have this group chat leaked. They should have done a face-to-face meeting where it can be recorded and then made

bad lineups that were somewhat defensible in a court of law. This is just like caught red-handed. This is sloppy. The funniest rule, the funniest line in the wire is like there's like a literal meeting of all the drug dealers, like a, like a cartel. and then the guy in the corner, the number two, and he comes out and Strings, Idriselva comes over, he's like,

are you taking notes on a criminal fucking conspiracy? Give me that. And he like shreds up the favor. That's what they did. They took notes on a criminal conspiracy. How did Mac find out that there was a group chat? Probably when he, everybody, when everybody had zero points,

four of the three of the league benched all their players. I would have denied. That happensstance. I think they added like other people in the chat too weren't part of it. Yeah, unfortunately, I don't, I don't think you should allow this trade. I think yeah, like kudos for the bit, but no.

Good bit, but we're undoing it. And specifically, I think the simplest thing for the commissioner because like this is the problem being commissioner, you got to deal with shit like this. Last week's lineups for all three teams and four teams actually that bench. Copy paste. Buy weak people were people that didn't play good injuries,

just the most obvious. Honestly, because they did this. the highest scoring person goes in from their bench. And then whoever ends up at first has to do the fucking rebalancing trade. You guys all agreed to have this be a rule in your league that the 11th place person makes a rule. So you made your best. Yeah, that is insane. Yeah, that's fair.

You should just see who would have been in first and then make the trade. Okay. What a absolutely diabolical rule. It's funny, though. After week 10. It is. Week 10. It's so funny.

Okay. They're all jockeying to be in like fourth place. It's pretty good. Oh my God. That is, that is really funny. The actually the next fantasy court here, I have so many questions about this one.

I almost kept it out because I actually really wanted to follow up with this person. I'm checking now. They have not emailed me back, which is too bad. But no, not yet. It's okay. But I'm going to read it anyway because I had so many questions.

So this is from George. George. G-bone. So George, hey guys, love the show. Breakfast, cold brew with a toasted cinnamon, raisin bagel, cream cheese, bacon, and egg sandwich. Wow. Cream cheese.

Wait, it's a cream cheese bacon and eggs sound? Well, it's bacon and egg. Or is the cream cheese on the cinnamon bagel? Oh, it's toasted cinnamon bagel. Cream cheese bacon and egg sandwich. Oh, he probably had half a bagel with cream cheese and then bacon and egg, or do you think it was a cinnamon, raisin bagel that had cream cheese, bacon, and egg? Yes.

The second one. No, that can't. can't be. A cinnamon raisin bagel with cream cheese eggs and bacon? Sure. A lot going on there. I think he had a cinnamon bagel with cream cheese, which is acceptable. And then a bacon, egg, and cheese. No, I think D.K.'s, I think, I think it was, you think it's all in one?

Yeah, I do. I do. This is a big divide. This is a big divide between, I feel like there's a coastal elitism to what can be on a breakfast sandwich, frankly. And I'm part of it, but a coastal elitism. I'm just being honest. I don't know what else to call it. Up, but itiness. Like, I think, I'm part of it.

New Yorkers gate keep what can go on a breakfast sandwich. But look, it's not what can go on it. It's the combination of flavors. It's not, I'm not upset that it's cream cheese or that. Cinnamon raisin is what you're worried about.

It's things that go together. Cream cheese with bacon and egg is, is the sin here. Cinnamon raisin. And the cinnamon raisin is weird. I think cinnamon raisin is weird. I think the weirdest part of the whole thing is combining cinnamon raisin with egg.

Does the bacon egg and cheese sandwich that's so famous in New York. Is that what it is? Those are the three things. Does it have like, is it dry? Does it have like butter or there's no cream cheese or whatever? I forget. It's butter. Okay. Or not. I mean, or it's just a toasted bagel. If you've paid for money for bacon and cheese, there's butter on it. But like it's egg, you know, or you get like ketchup or hot sauce or something. Anyway, there's massive disparities in what cream cheese can we. Let's follow up with this guy. I think cinnamon raisin and egg is is the part that stands out to me. That's anyway. George, let us know. So anyway, George, I like the idea of egg bacon,

cream cheese. I'm willing to give that a shot. That sounds kind of good, actually. So George writes, this isn't, I don't really think this is a case. I just have questions and I wanted to read this to you guys. And I want to know what questions about back from George here. George says, I'm going to league with my best friends in seventh grade, his wife, his friends with one of their wives as well. And he has this whole thing where he kind of sets it up, where he kind of thinks his friend might be doing the wife, you know, maybe some famous with the trades. But that's not the part that's interesting to why I have questions about. So George writes, my friend will call him,

Nick has been the commissioner and introduced me to fantasy and has fallen in love with it. This year, something weird has happened to the league. We have three people with the same team name. Our commissioner, apparently, Nick and another player who I don't know has copied someone's team name Greg to make it difficult to know which manager is actually the real one. They're all named Greg. No problem with that. That's funny. That's the ringer league.

Like the ringer league is every. The Ringer League, everyone's name Danny Kelly. Which was Craig's start. And then Craig, everyone did it. And then Craig got out. So anyway. Fuck the lemons and bail. Yeah.

So we have three teams named Greg. One is the real Greg. One is Nick. One is unknown. And I didn't really see a problem with this until I tried to negotiate a trade with Nick. And he wouldn't give me a straight answer on which team was actually his. And he finally gave me an answer. But then he just joked that he actually had two teams.

What? And this. And then George writes, this upset me. The commissioner might have two teams. Because if that was true, that's obviously cheating. Fast forward two weeks. I found out the team he told me isn't actually his, but the real Greg, what the fuck?

My question, is my friend the commissioner being untrustworthy, or am I overreacting? How do you not know who's in your league? That's what I said. What do you mean you don't know who this person is? He doesn't know if it's like, it's like Kaiser Sozee in fantasy. He thinks the 10th person is league doesn't exist.

Did he say they've been in this since seventh grade? His friend is from seventh grade, but I think he's like, like he's that guy who doesn't know everybody. So yeah, he's in a league with my best friend, his wife. He's like the out of towner.

And his friends. But like is there a group chat? Count the amount of people in the group chat. That's what I said. The idea that you could just not know, like look, everyone is a league where maybe you don't know the 10th or the first. I don't think it's that uncommon to not really know everybody in the league.

But also like whatever platform you're using like Yahoo. You can go in and see like, it's like, it's like Instagram where you have a handle but also a name. You can go in and actually see the owner of the team. That's the funny part. DK, it's not that they don't know him. It's that he's inability to identify the person. When I'm like, is Georgia boomer who can't click on a team and find the email, find the person's name? There's no group chat.

You can't even ask someone whose number is this. Like, like to me, the idea that there actually might be nine teams in a league. And the commissioner has made a burner team that is just propping up him. and his wife's team is like the fact that that was even possible he's getting fantasy catfished yes it's a fantasy catfish situation he's wondering if the commissioner's fantasy catfishing him with three teams named gregg it's a hot blonde woman named lauren what is this tweet to iososopo what's going on with this i don't know Greg tuia sasopo out over here is like fucking running one of these 10 teams the 10th manager in this league is really pretty blonde lady she wants to make a trade

with me but she she wants to do it in person she seems great i know it's like all the In the Ringer Fantasy Football, the Instagram, there's all these like beautiful women in bikinis who want to help us build a website. She just gave my credit card information and then we'll do the trade. It's so crazy. I like the idea of getting fantasy catfished. Fantasy catfish by a team and you're like, who the fuck runs this team? It doesn't exist. It's like the Charlie Kelly meme from Sunny where he's just like, Pepe-Silly Carol!

Carol! It's like that lady on the plane. That man does not exist. That team isn't real. A motherfucker is not real. So there's no case here. I just was like blown away by this person not being able to identify who the 10th person in the league is. Yeah, I need you to do some digging, George.

Because I actually don't want them to respond yet. And I do want you to email back, George. My fear was that they would respond to be like, oh, I just clicked on the name and it's Bill. And I was like, oh, that would have been disappointing. I wanted to keep alive the idea that the commissioner and his two teams. Anyway. I thought that was really funny. Three teams named Greg.

three teams named Craig. Oh my God. All right. George probably just is a boomer. Anyway, we got some emails here. emails. This one's from Jake. Jake him.

With all the discussion about the name Jug. Yeah, Jug. I wanted to bring to your attention that the Minnesota Vikings kick returner, Miles Price, is nicknamed Jug in the locker room. No way. Because his head looks like a jug. His head looks like a jug. The Vikings have decided his team, his head looks like a jug.

And he got, while you look that up, Minnesota Star Tribune wrote a story where they quoted the special teams coordinator who said, asked about why his nickname is jug, the special teams coordinator said, and I quote, his head looks like a jug. It's a little jug like, I suppose. It's kind of a rounder head. I feel like it's a picture. I feel like I needed 360 to see the real jug.

Like, it just kind of looks like a head to me. I know. he looks pretty normal to me but they get to see the head from all angles I'm talking about legally named their Christian because they were baptized jug jug

jug urp was not his real name that was his name I hereby baptized jug oh yeah did Craig and Lizzie bringing their baby jug over today oh man also jug is a funny word because I don't even know the right word how many things even qualify

what's it what is a jug I mean, I own a jug. It's a vessel to hold water. Yeah, that's kind of it. Like a Gatorade jug. But even that, what actual shape? What is the jug? Is it just like how big is it?

A jug is a large cylinder. I'm seeing all kinds of different. I'm realizing now I get. It's like a pitcher. Yeah, but is a jug of water? But I'm like, what is a jug? Big cylinder that you put liquid in. But like the Gatorade, that's not a, is that a jug?

Not like, I'm like getting the, It's kind of a jug with a top. Like there's a plastic gallon jug, like a jug of milk. Oh yeah, I guess people say jug of milk. Gallon jug. Huh. When you say jug a lot, it starts to sound real weird. The definition of jug is a large container for liquids with a narrow mouth and typically a stopper or cap.

There you go. So I guess it is just a pitcher. Okay. Or like a growler. A definition of a jug. Why is a pitcher called a pitcher? Craig. I don't know.

What the fuck? It's up pitching anything. Why has anything named anything? It should be called a poorer. Yeah. Like that is like you. You would have like, hey, can I pitch you some water? Because you sound like a cycle.

When you pitch it over. You're pitching the layer or the level over and the water flies out. Pitch? Yeah, it's pitched to an angle. And then the water comes out. Is that what pitching means? You're, it's a pit. It's pitched like you pitch it to the side.

Like there's a, A slope? Yeah. Is that what pitching means? Like something, it's not just throwing it's an angular. Here's the deal. A lot of words mean more than one thing. The second definition of pitch is the steepness of a slope.

There you go. The pitch. You change the pitch and the water falls out. And I guess that does make sense with a pitcher in baseball even. Huh. So there's pitchers both pitch and throw and they change the angle. And yeah. And they're even throwing from a mound.

So there's a slope. Also, it just could be the same word. means two different things. Pictures really are perfectly named. Satisfy all three things. That's amazing, actually. It's like a super right name. Which position name is the least accurate to what they actually do as a player?

Well, shortstop's the coolest name. But the worst name? Shortstop's the coolest name? Oh, I think the worst name is offensive tackle because your whole point, like, don't get anyone tackled. Don't get anyone tackled. It's like the opposite of what you do. Yeah.

There is no offensive tackling. Yeah, I mean that, yeah. That's it right there. No, it's not a thing. The best name is center because they have to be. Yeah. You're right.

I'm trying to think I'm like running through basketball. They all make sense. Golly makes sense. Shooting guard is funny because all of them shoot. But yeah. Quarterback doesn't really make any sense anymore either. No, quarterback's like a vestigial name. Yeah.

It made sense at the time. Yeah. Fullback, halfback. I mean, catcher is rock solid. Catcher's top tier. You say the word catcher, you know exactly what that guy's doing. Pitcher, catcher, center. Goalie?

Pretty good. Golly's like a little like, like, yeah. Golly's like a little fun. It's cute. He's the goalie. Yeah. The other one that's funny, guard. Guard's perfect.

Offensive, like in football. Like he does guard. They should all be called guards. The goalie should really be like the stopper. Stopper. Yeah, that's good. There is a position. Isn't there in soccer called a stopper?

Striker. Well, there's also a striker. Soccer has a position called Stopper? I was unaware of that. Stopper. You sure? I don't think that's true. Yeah, Stopper and soccer is a defensive player, typically a centerback.

Wow. Maybe that's just like in youth soccer? I don't know. Wow. I've watched 30 soccer games in my heart. I don't know if they still use Stopper and like fucking FIFA or whatever, but it was at one point something that they used to describe. Unlike a more free roaming sweeper, according to Gemini, the stop.

is the more physically imposing player. So he's the strong safety, the Cam Chancellor, if he's the girl Thomas. Yeah, yeah. I would say punter, right on the nose. Punter, kicker. Should this be power? Wide receiver is pretty good.

Yeah, wide receiver. I mean, running back is pretty good. Running back is good. Tight end is. Tight end describes where they stand. So the name describes where you line up. So the top, so his pitcher get its own tier because it means like three different.

I think pitcher satisfying every definition is correct. Yeah, but pitcher actually, no, yeah, you're right. Okay. But then no notes is like catcher, center, kicker, punter. I mean, third base man. Third base man. First base man. That's pretty good. Third baseman. Yeah, that's pretty good. He's the man on first base base. It's pretty good. That's pretty good. Center field left. Right. Baseball figured it out. Yeah, baseball. The names haven't changed because the sport hasn't really changed. It's really just every name's except shortstop, which is kind of cool sounding. Yeah. Okay.

I'm glad we did that. Yeah, me too. That was really worthwhile. What other sports are we? Basketball? Now they just number them. If I could name the hockey positions, I would, but I don't know if I can't. Well, it's forward, there's center and forward, but it's complicated because something's

What are the defensive players calling hockey? Center, right wing, left wing, right defense, left defense, and goalie. There's no defensive positions. They're just called all just defenseman? Right defense left defense? I don't know. I think she's a defenseman with a sea

which is Canadian I guess anyway you guys should we end the show or do you want a little science I'll take a little science yeah give me a little give me just a skosh All right this is from Brooke Bebone

So Brooke who has sent us great physics stuff in the past wanted one clarified the temperature at the sun trivia question We all felt a little dumb because it was 10,000 degrees. Surface of the sun, right? Oh, yeah, she will say.

So Brooke says, I think that tribute question did y'all a little dirty because yes, the surface of the sun's 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit. But the core of the sun is hot A.F, like 27 million degrees. Okay. And even the outer atmosphere, the outer atmosphere of the sun is like over a million degrees.

So we actually were kind of close. What did we say? I can't even remember. You said 100. Craig said 500. I said a million. Or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I remember because I was literally thinking of those three numbers and then you two said the other two. Oh, yeah, I was like, I wanted to say a million, then I went a little lower. So, okay, well, that makes me feel better. We also spent a long time talking about how do you know the temperature of the sun. DK. was like, it's like an anal thermometer. Brick said that's actually exactly correct. It's a probe. No, just kidding.

No, that's obviously wrong. She said, they know how the surface is, much like how you can tell the temperature of heated metal by its glow. We all knew that. It's based on color, the wavelength, wavelength of the light coming off it. We know the core temperature of the sun because we understand the fusion reactions going on in the core of the sun. And that has to be how hot or it has to be that hot for them, the fusion reactions will work. The sun is scary. Sounds false.

It is. It sounds nuts. It's so hot. Sometimes I think about like everything that's going on in space. And I'm like, man, I really hope everything is just stable. You know, it's wild. I heard that the sun's shooting extra rays at us these days. just in this specific time,

which means we could get some Aurora Borealis going on, aka Northern Lights. That's one of the most underrated things that's happening is like, I don't know what's global warming, we're all kind of numb to it. The fact that anything's going on

where like the Northern Lights, we have to go to Scandinavia to see this in certain times of the year and if it's cloud of you're fucked. And they're like, yeah, it's kind of just going to happen wherever now. That's crazy. Well, no, it's, I think it's,

well, I read something about this. Solar flares. I'm obviously not an expert on anything science. But apparently the sun goes through stages of activity where it's more reactive and whatnot. And it shoots whatever it is that it shoots at the earth, the rays of things. Energy particles. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. But anyways, it shoots stuff towards us.

And then when that hits the atmosphere, that's what helps create the northern lights. So there's periods of more northern light activity, which I saw the northern lights like, I don't know, maybe a year ago or six months ago or something. It was huge where I live, which is very, very rare. And I guess it was because there was just more sun activity. And they go in cycle, it goes in cycles of like 10 years. And you know what the Aurora Borales is fucking plasma. Plasma. And Brooke said plasma is, okay.

I was like, what's plasma? She's really easy. Solid is locked atoms. Not going anywhere. Liquid. Loosely held together atoms. kind of just hanging on. And then gas is when atoms are just flying everywhere.

Like just flying all the time. Like that's gas. But as energy increases, atoms go insane. Plasma's next level. Plasma's the fourth state of matter where there's so much energy. The fucking electrons break apart, leave the protons. And there's a super free electrons all bouncing around like a chaotic ocean of electricity. And that's what the sun is made of.

Wow. That is scary. See, you know what I mean? I'm like, ah, that's. That seems unstable. I always think about this, like, the sun is however many million miles away. It's like fucking far away. And the difference in temperature in the sun and the shade is like pretty dramatic.

I know. Think about how fucking far away the sun is. Like, I'm just like, that is insane to me. That's why people come to the show because last week we were like, sun's hot. Now we're like sun's far. Dude, the sun is far and hot. All right. The slight tilt of the earth is what makes the,

the seasons. That's why right now all the fucking leaves are falling off by trees. I know. It is actually, it's fucking wild. Yeah, it's crazy to just think about. It's pretty amazing. Calvin's like, why is it so dark? I picked him up at daycare the other day and he was like, why are you so late? I'm like, I'm not late. It's just, it gets dark earlier. And you're like, so listen to here, Calvin, we're actually moving at 70,000 miles an hour around the sun. Yeah. All right. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Ron. Thank you, thank you, Kyle. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, awesome. Thank you everyone for listening. Email us. More fantasy courts. Ringof Fantasy Football at Gmail.

at Gmail. George, let us know what's going on with this 10th person, George. My God. Any other fantasy catfishing, let us know that. Science, have we had our fill? emails, trivia questions as well about anything. Yeah, fantasyfobble.com for rankings this week. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you. The Killers. Nice. I was trying to think of a Sun-related. What's a Sun-related band? Sunny and Cher.

Sunshine Band? Sunny and Cher. Casey and the Sunshine Band, great one. Oh, yeah. Sonny and Cher, yeah. I'm glad you got that right. You nailed that pronunciation. I still can't believe that. Sonny. What the fuck is the O there for? The word S-O-N. We don't have to get into it again. I didn't know that.

I didn't know that. Dude, who says Sunny? Does people in your life say that? Sonny? Like, hey, Sunny. If that's your name. She's like, what if it? Sunny boy, listen to your sunny boy.

It's literally like goalie for a person's name. Yeah. You had an IE on the end of it or a lot. You're like sunny. It's like the worst creative thing. No one's ever been named Sonny. It's like the famous sunny Liston. Sunny chair.

Sunny from Godfought. You know what I mean? Sonny Jurgensen. Thought it was like every other name spelled that way. I'm like Ronnie. Like I wouldn't say runny. But like the baseball player, Sunny Gray.

What did you think his name was? I was confused. Sonny. He thought it was Sonny, Craig. You never heard anyone. say Sunny Grace's name? I saw on the Yankees and I was like, why did they say it like this?

This is weird. You know, they were all wrong. Surely if his name is sunny, there'd be a fucking you. Surely you can't be serious. Yeah. Dude, the earth? That's a perfect, that is the best example of culture being like the Paul Newman thing.

That line is known by people who saw airplane and then there was a generational gap and there was people who saw the end of Call of Duty 4. Wait, what line? Surely you can't be serious. I am serious, but don't call me Shirley. in Call of Duty 4, which was the biggest video game ever at the time. And that is how everyone learned about that line of my age, personally. It's all cyclical.

It's like, I got to witness Hyfitz realizing that Warren G sampled Michael McDonald. Yeah, that was wild. It was amazing. Regulates sampling Michael McDonald's. What? Regulate sampling Michael McDonald's, I couldn't have gotten in a trillion years. Dude, how is the earth spinning at 1,000 miles per hour? Okay.

This is wild. I don't know, Craig. The Earth is spinning right now at 1,000 miles per hour. You're going to spin off of this planet. Why don't we? Why don't we just fly off? You ever hear things like that? You're like, I can see how people don't believe that.

Oh, yeah. Well, that's the whole point, the whole point of like people having conspiracy theories. It's like you just don't understand what's happening. Right. It's like so. You come up with your own shit. it's mind bottling you know it's so crazy

in a bottle just I don't know if I walked up to somebody I was like this earth is moving 67,000 miles per hour right now and it's spinning 1,000 miles per hour while doing that somebody would be like no way Rogers would be like no way

I'm not a doctor but you know what there's no way he's like Rogers if you got up to him like I think the earth's completely still he'd be like no way but it's moving fast Yeah, it's whatever you say. Like that's actually how we should convince the flatter ethers. We're like, I think they're super flat. And they're like, nah, I bet the shit's round.

What's the conspiracy that you believe the most? Can I give you one that I actually organically thought of? And I'm sure other people have come up with this. You came up with this conspiracy? It's kind of the same way you come up with an idea. I'm like, I'm sure other people have had this idea. But it's not mainstream. I've never heard it from anyone else.

I just kind of was like, that doesn't make sense. I don't believe this story. So you know how like William McKinley was president? and Teddy Roosevelt was vice president. William McKinley was shot by this random guy. Okay. I think Teddy Roosevelt totally had William McKinley killed. Why?

Because big picture, everything you know about Teddy Roosevelt is he's like this unstoppable force of nature. He's like a total hawk. He's like a Winston Churchill, like a lifelong, like we're going to war, like before World War I, when America did enter World War I, Teddy Roosevelt took a region, like a group of people and went to upstate New York and trained for the war for like three years until they entered so they'd be ready. Like he's just a very like deterministic manifest destiny I would like person.

And the idea that, and he was so politically powerful that they put him at vice president because vice president was like useless at the time. It was like a career ending thing. And they stuck him there to get rid of Teddy Roosevelt and his career. And the idea that Teddy Roosevelt is one of the most influential people in the history of the United States of America just so happened how lucky what a lucky break for Teddy Roosevelt to become president because the guy ahead of him was shot by a totally random guy for no reason just doesn't just doesn't accept who stuck him at vice president the leaders

of the bull moose or what it basically a bunch of like his part it's kind of like how Pete Buttigieg got fucking transportation secretary they're like go do something boring like they just didn't want you know what I mean but that was vice president at the time I mean I can't disprove this I mean I can't either I'm probably wrong, but I just, it just seems like quite the coincidence for the, what in every other context of his life was the most like aggressive fuck. Teddy Roosevelt had his seat. He lowered the couch in the oval office because he could fucking peer over people and like be taller than them. He'd stare them down. And I'm like, I kind of think he just had fucking. You know a lot of Teddy was kind of,

he was a pretty big badass. I knew all this before. I just was kind of like thinking about it. I'm like, this doesn't make two and two together. Why are you such a Teddy Roosevelt head? He's an important guy. It's a lot of important people. I don't know. I don't know. Because he was fucking manly. That's why. He was the original alpha. Also say football.

Teddy Roosevelt's actually the one who made, too many people are dying football, playing football. And he was the one who's like wear fucking helmets like the Packers. You know, you know, that Romeo Dobbs. Without knowing a lot about Teddy Roosevelt, he was a fucking badass. That's why Craig. That's all. Just just curious.

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