The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking Buy-Lows (and Sell-Lows). Plus, Another Cloud Argument.

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

The guys recap the ‘Monday Night Football’ doubleheader, talk about whether Jayden Daniels is better than Patrick Mahomes, and do their best to unpack why the Jaguars are so bad (1:07). Next, POWER HOUR! They go back to the well and discuss a new list of fantasy players to trade for (or away?) before Week 4, including the preseason WR1, Mark Andrews (again), Taylor Swift’s boyfriend, the Green Bay Packers, and much more (9:35). Plus, Fantasy Court and emails (46:34)! Tua will be back this season (we hope), so buy low on Tyreek Hill (12:38) Live by Anthony Richardson, die by Anthony Richardson (14:56) There’s nowhere else to go but up for Michael Pittman Jr. (17:59) Mark Andrews: The second time’s the charm (20:10) Taylor Swift’s boyfriend (22:43) Is Sam LaPorta a buy-low or a sell-low? (25:29) All of the Green Bay Packers (29:23) Mike Evans is … inevitable (31:43) Did Brandon Aiyuk just get market corrected by Jauan Jennings? (33:43) The Bengals are bad, but Tee Higgins isn’t (35:54) George Pickens and Najee Harris, a.k.a. Craig’s homer pick (38:14) Lightning round: Tank Dell and Courtland Sutton (40:40) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producer: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A restaurant's best dishes tell stories. Their flavors embed themselves in our memory like song lyrics or lines from a movie. So much so that a little slice of a restaurant's story can become part of our own. I'm Danny Chow and this is ShiftMeal, a new video podcast from The Ringer where we're sharing a bite and chopping it up with chefs and restaurant people during their off hours. Look out for episodes of Shift Meal on Ringer food starting September 18th. Football show, my name is Danny Hypefitts, and I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig. Horlebeckin today it is Power Hour, where we power rank something every week. And today we are power ranking our biggest bylaws and or sell highs because all our bylaws did really well last week and we're kind of running out.

So now we're going to just figure out all the yucky guys and figure out which ones left are bylaws and which ones. We're just going to cut bait and we're going to do that power hour style in a bit. But first, I wanted to hit Monday at football because Washington beat the Bengals 38 to 22 on Monday night and Jade and Daniels through the game winning touchdown to Terry McLaurin with two minutes left. And D-K, I wanted to ask you. I know that it's only been three weeks, but is Jaden Daniels better than Patrick Mahomes? Maybe, maybe, perhaps. I know that during the game last night,

we were texting, Craig actually said this. It feels like he's kind of impossible to defend right now, just because of the way that they're mixing what he can do on the ground within the rushing game. You know, the read option stuff has been so crucial for them converting in both the red zone and on third downs. And when you mix in some deep balls and some ability to throw deep that he hadn't really shown

the first two weeks that much. Again, it makes it very, very difficult for him to defend. So it was a super impressive third game for him and obviously bodes well for the future for them. Craig, so, I mean, Jane Daniels, completed 21 to 23 passes, 254 yards, two touchdowns, 12 carries for 39 yards, set the rookie record for completion percentage. That's completion percentage in team history. This one I couldn't believe.

Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, and Peyton Manning combined, had two games in their entire career where they scored in every possession. and then Jaden Daniels has done it twice this season, even though the rest of those guys did it twice in the entire career. That kind of blew my mind. And then I'm also curious, I kind of think that Jaden Daniels, the touchdown pass he had to McLaurin in the end zone,

was that the best throw of the season? Like, was that even better than what Richardson did in week one? I think yes, because you have to factor in the stakes of the moment. Richardson did that in the middle of the first quarter, he slipped and launched up a ball. This was the fourth quarter, third and seven, and he gets absolutely drilled right after he throws this ball after getting the shit kicked out of the entire game,

drops it right in the guy's lap. It was unbelievable. I like audibly gasped last night at how good that throw was and how good Jaden Daniels looked. Yeah. When you watch somebody like him, guys like Lamar, you're like, all right, I understand why you want a quarterback that's mobile. It felt like he was super calm in the pocket.

No one's open. I'll scramble for eight, nine yards. And from half time on, I was like, I don't see how the Bengals are going to stop him. This just feels like no matter what Burrow does, Washington is going to have an answer. There was another thing that really impressed me about Jane Daniels last night. And it was basically there was a point late, late in the fourth quarter where it looked like Cliff Kingsbury was having trouble or it's like not fast enough for Jane Daniels in terms of getting the play call in. Like he kept looking at the sideline and being like, dude, hurry up.

Come on, get me the play call. Get it in. And on that touchdown pass, that like critical touchdown pass, they hadn't even really gotten. lined up. It was like they were like really rushing to get everything set. And, you know, like he said, he threw it. He got hit so hard right when he threw it. So it's such a clutch throw. And I was just especially impressed with his ability to kind of like handle the adversity of not getting the play in quick enough. Like he, he managed the stress of that situation really well. He looks super calm. He has like honestly had swag to him on the sidelines. He was like laughing, joking around. Just like already seems like he's super comfortable. Also, this was like a little bit of a revenge game, kind of. It was like the LSU guy who came after Joe Burrow. And even he was, he was like, yeah, man, every time like all throughout my career at LSU, it was just like, oh, Joe Burrow this, Joe Burrow that. So I think it probably, there was a little extra motivation to win this game, I think, for him.

It's like when you follow up your brother at high school. Yeah. And you're just like, yeah, you're just like, oh, yeah, you're just little Michael. And I'm like, no. Got a chip on your shoulder. Exactly. Yeah. No, also, and honestly, look, Joe Burrow and the Bengals, they played really well in this game.

I mean, I think Burrow, I think he was off in bits, but like overall, the offense moved the ball. The Bengals defense was just like, I mean, they couldn't get any pressure of any kind on defense. And that just like totally fell them. But I will say, I'm curious, I like the two Monday night football game thing. And I think that this game is, this week was exactly why they did the two Monday and football game. Because the other game was a disaster. The bills blew out the Jaguars. Billsby Jacksonville 47 to 10.

I don't, I mean, I don't have any children. But if I did, I would be asking you guys how I should explain. and the Jaguars to my children because I don't know how they can air that kind of thing on a Disney-owned property. I don't know if they should be offended. I don't know. Craig, do you think Bob Iger has anything to apologize for for airing that on ESPN? What platform should

that be on? Is this like an HBO after dark? Where does that belong? Skinna-A-Mex. Yeah, exactly. I mean, so it's 47 to 10. I think that was the best first half to build. I've seen from any team in a few years and it's the best Josh Allen's ever played. Like, period. And he's doing it with a bunch of guys. Kaleal,

Shakir, you know, a bunch of randos. Dalton can Kate had a touchdown. Lawrence looks so bad. And I can't tell. He's a little bit in the Justin Herbert camp for me where it's like, I do still think he's good. And I like, I'm pretty confident he's good. But man, it's like he looks super gun shy out there. But it's also like, can you blame him?

The scheme isn't doing anything for him. He's getting blown up. The O-line sucks. He's getting rocked every single game. So he looks timid out there. His weapons aren't very good. I don't know. While he's not playing well, I still have faith in Trevor Lawrence.

And like Stephen Ruiz said on Bill's pod, when Belichick's coaching, I'll be back in. Yeah, well, D.K. So to the point, again, we don't need to elaborate. Like, obviously Trevor Lawrence looked awful. All the Jaguars looked awful. And is this a coaching thing?

Like, if the Jaguars fired Doug Peterson and they just hired Clint Kubiak from the Saints and they just did what they did to Eric Carr and just unplug them and plug them back in again. Well, get Klein Kubek in there. Or Klein, yeah, just get one of the Kubiak. Call them out of the clay, which one of them. Clay, whichever.

I don't know which one of them's. But, DK, is it a, like, we'll be talking a year for now, like, wow, Kubiaks fixed Lawrence, or do you think we overrated Trevor Lawrence as a prospect? Maybe a little bit of both. I do feel like it is a coaching. There's something to do with coaching because they are just so sloppy

and it doesn't feel like they're ever getting the people in the right place. Like the receivers don't ever seem to be running the right routes. And, you know, there's just penalties and drops and guys not getting their fee in bounds. It's like one, it's always something with the Jaguars. You know what I mean? Like every time you watch them,

it's like, It's like so frustrating to watch for a multitude of reasons. Like I don't think you can say Trevor is blameless also. Like he he's bringing his problem. Like he's fumbled a million times. His interception last night was one of the worst of the year. Yeah. I mean, like if you look at the number of times he's turned the ball over the last couple of years,

it's pretty depressing. I'm with you, Craig. I'm still holding out hope that Trevor Lawrence will turn out to be really good. But like right now, I don't, it's just hard for me to say that he's good. Like just the situation around him is always so sloppy. And at some point, it's like, man, you got to start playing well if we're going to like, it's just kind of how I feel. I know that he has like all the traits that you want.

And I still believe in him. But like, man, it's just ugly. Every week it feels like ugly. A hundred percent. I'm very guilty of, you're right. You said instinct. My instinct is to make Lawrence blameless. And like my instinct very much, I'm extremely guilty of doing that, you know, when

Derek Carr messes up, I'm like Gordon Ramsey. And I'm like, what are you an idiot sandwich? And then it's like when Trevor Lawrence throws an interception, I'm like, oh dear, oh dear, gorgeous, it's okay. And I think at this point, last night I realized that game, and the Jaguars right now as a team are just as bad as the Jaguars were when the Jaguars were the Jaguars. Like when they were a laughing stock, really right up until they made that like AFC championship game run. But they're just as bad as the Blake Bortals Jaguars are worse. They're as bad as the freaking Blaine Gabbert Jaguars. And I think, yeah, until that changes, Trevor Lawrence, just, he's in timeout.

So, yeah, he's an idiot sandwich. So he's a cell low. Yeah, yeah. Well, I will say, the Jaguar's so bad that they're actually a by-low just because everyone just watched them on Monday night football and now everyone's out. I do think Brian Thomas is still, like, worth it to go after. I think he's so good. Every time he touches the ball, he's electric.

And, I mean, as a rookie, the fact that he just kind of came into this terrible team and this awful offense and he's, like, still kind of producing a little bit. I feel like bodes really well for the second half of the year when rookie wide receivers usually take off. Yeah, and everyone's free. I mean, everyone else is free. I mean, literally, we got someone tweeted us right before we went on the show, should I cut Trevor Lawrence for Andy Dalton,

which really tells you the state of how people think about it. If you want to do the jacks, you can go get them. It's not going to cost you very much. No, but like, I mean, maybe. No, of course not. But maybe. It's a real kombucha girl moment. Yeah, no, you shouldn't do that.

But, well, I don't know. we're going to do power hour we're going to do by low so i'm not going to lie little pat ourselves in the back here we did we gave out 13 by low candidates last week 12 of them had the best performance of the season so that's the good news because we gave i mean some guys blew up like amari cooper um you know chris olivay kaloshikeda big weeks uh jared goffinis low week but dionte johnson blew up was a top five receiver like a lot of the guys we've tossed out did did really well so that's good so for mark andrews don't worry about that little guy yeah that's kind of the one that didn't get out. He's the egg in the dozen. It was cracked. Yeah. Just toss him.

Yeah. But so the good news is that did well. The bad news is all those guys aren't really by lows anymore because they did really well. So the windows kind of, you know, no one's trading them away. So we had to come up with like 12 new guys. And so I think where we landed is to be totally like 100% honest. Last week we were kind of like these guys are really good values. This week, it's kind of just these guys also are sucking, but we're not sure if it's good or bad. Like like these guys also like, yeah, we're going to talk through it. Yeah. We're going to, like, some of these guys are by lows and some are cellos. It's like advertising.

You know what I mean? Half of it works. We don't know which. Half of these guys are going to be bylaws, but we're not sure which ones are going to be bylaws and others will just suck and we're going to figure out who's who. So we're going to go through. And again, we're going to this power our style. So for those who don't know, here's the way it works.

D.K. and Craig sent me. They're guys that, frankly, could be by lows or cellos. Like, basically, guys that are vexing. And I power rank them. So if you don't like the order, blame me. And I ordered them basically in how. intriguing I found them. And you know what? Intriguing's vague. Some of them I found intriguing because I can't believe you're asking me about this person. Some of them are intriguing because

the player is interesting. Some of them are intriguing because I'm positive there, a by-low, and I'll just let you know why I rank them. But basically, I try to rank them in an order that's helpful. Has anybody blamed you for the order before? You always say that. Has anybody come to you upset? I'm a harsh critic. I put it on myself. I blame myself for the order. I don't know. People like to complain about rankings in writing form. I don't know if people, I guess when we started doing this, I thought people would blame people, you know, always argue about rankings. But no, no one's ever. If we start tweeting out the list, then people will get upset.

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You ever get, it's like so good. You're angry? Damn it, that's good. All right. Number one, Bilo and or cell low guy after week three. DK. Yeah.

Best one I got a week. You sent me just tire a kill for the dolphins. I feel like he is one of the biggest conundrums in fantasy full stop right now. I just do not know what is going to happen with Tua, Tunga Vailoa, obviously. He's on IR right now. They did that after he suffered another concussion a couple weeks ago. I think the earliest he can come back is week seven. don't know even for sure if he will come back this season at all.

And so I think Tyree Kill's value is 100% contingent on Tua coming back. Or maybe not 100%, but like it's very, very important that Tua comes back for Tari Kill to be anywhere near what he has been over the last couple of years with Tua at quarterback. I actually looked it up with Skyler Thompson at quarterback. He has played, Tariq has played in five games with Skylar Thompson at quarterback, more than 15 snaps. And he has averaged 4.7 points for game. He has not gone over 50 yards in any of those games. He has zero touchdowns. Now, the team may go to Tyler Huntley or Tim Boyle, but. Oh, thank God. Still, still a massive downgrade, I should say, for both of those guys. And I don't

know, man, like, where I lean right now is like, if you can get anything for him, get out. Like, especially if you can get something good. Not anything, because I don't think you just give up on him completely. But if anyone is offering you a pretty good receiver right now, I think you jump at it. Do you trust that Mike McDaniel could scheme up ways to keep Tyree Kill relevant in the offense and then in turn in fantasy? If he can't, then Mike McDaniel's in trouble. Relevant is a relative term, of course. I think he can be relevant. I don't think he has even remotely the ceiling that he's had.

Relevant in that he's all like the ball's always going over his head. Yeah, I think, yeah, he had a chance at 2,000 yards with Tua. Now it's like we really, I mean, he better get to a thousand. Now, he will. I think it's, frankly, I think the Tyree Kill is still going to get his yards. I think last week was particularly bad. I think Jalen Waddle is the guy that's really screwed. I think that the whole entire offense is going to run through just dumpoffs to Tyree Kill and H.

N and defenses are going to give Hill and H.N., those dumpoffs. But I think Waddle is the guy who's, I think, cooked. I think you've got to just hunker down for winter with Tyree Kill because you're going to have to sell them for real cheap. Next up here. Next up, buy low and or sell low, which we will figure out. Craig, you said me, Anthony Richardson quarterback for the cults. I thought this was a great one. People are panicking.

I think this is the number one panic player of the season so far. I love this guy, man. He's an entertainer, really, at heart. He's, you know, it's a mess, but it's always fun. We all have friends like that. Yeah. What's nice about him is I feel like I always get what he's trying to do, you know? It's like, I get it.

Like Jonah Hill and forgetting Sir Marshall. Did you get it? I'm like, I get it. He's trying to keep the game alive, you know? He's going deep when everybody else is checking down, maybe because he's physically incapable of completing a checkdown because they go

eight yards over at his receiver's head. But yeah, it's a mess. He had 27 points a week one. That was fun. Last week he had 12 points. This week he had seven points. Three touchdowns, six picks. They're not running him as much,

which is a little bit of an issue. He's not like running a whole lot right now. I think he's a by-low because he's still like the most physically gifted guy in the league. And I'm just still betting on him getting his sea legs. This is like the 20th game

he's played since high school. cool. I'm still betting long term you want this guy in your team. I'm pretty sure. I don't have a strong conviction on it, but I'm pretty sure I'm right there with you, Craig. I just think that I think the offense will get figured out. I think they'll start to get a little more rhythm. I think they'll start to figure out ways to utilize him in the ground game a little more. He has nine design runs so far, so three a game. I think they'll, I think they're going to have to like start using him a little bit more on the ground, even though they're probably a little bit nervous about him getting hurt again. I mean, if we if you've seen what Jane Daniels is,

like the impact it creates on an offense. I think it's pretty dramatic. And I don't understand why they would not do that going forward. So maybe I'm just hopeful that that's going to happen. And his fantasy value will end up being at least somewhat reasonable for where we were getting him in drafts. But yeah, he's never going to be cheaper than he is right now. Yeah, I think for that purpose, Richardson's the definition of a buy low. Again, there's an element of buy the dip.

And there's a dip. That's why it's so they're selling it low because there's something about the situation that makes you feel icky. And so if you're like, oh my God, he's been bad, do I want to trade for him? I'm like, that's the point. If he hadn't been bad, people wouldn't want to trade him away. And so this to me is the, like, again, we talked about him before this season as one of the players that could, like, explode. Last point of this, Justin Fields just last year was awful in September. And then it was like a top four quarterback from like October on.

I mean, I would go get Richardson while everyone's panicking. A little side note. You know how we measure quarterback's hands and like Kenny Pickett's hands were too small? Jared Gough, that's a problem. I wonder if Richardson's are too big. Has anyone ever measured that? Like Shaq with free throws? The ball looks too small in his hand.

It's like he's throwing like a dart. It's hard. It's hard to be accurate when you're throwing a tennis ball. Isn't that why Shaq couldn't make free throws? The ball's too big for his hand. The ball's too small? Yeah. And then Kawhi Leonard figured it out.

So maybe he should meet with Kauai or something. But it just genuinely looks like he's like skipping rocks when he throws a football. We got to get our top. Good point. Yeah. All right. Next step on this note, TK. You also send me, Michael,

Pittman receiver for the call. So I think is right here with Richardson of just intertwined. Yeah, this is like directly related obviously. Right now Michael Pittman is currently the wide receiver 79 on a wide receiver six target rate. He has a 29.4 percent target rate, which is elite. It's an elite number. That is exactly what you're looking for in terms of utilization, not matching production. You know what I mean? The targets are just sailing over his head like the pregame flyover. Yes, but that I don't feel like that's going to continue nearly as dramatically as it has. You know the kid at the beginning of Happy Gilmore in the batting cage

who comes in after Happy and he's just taking balls in the chest? That's what it feels like Michael Pittman's doing every week. Yeah, he was used to like Matt Ryan's old ass and Sam Ellinger and then Anthony Richardson comes on and he's like, damn, I need more pads. So yeah, I mean, I think Stuyken is going to figure things out a little bit. He's a good offensive coach. I think as the season goes on, they're going to iron out some of the wrinkles and, you know, go back to the game where it was like,

some RPO's over the middle to kind of just get him warmed up. It's like doing free throws or layups for a basketball player to get you comfortable on those throws. And I mean, Pittman is going to be the number one target in this offense. Josh Downs is coming back. He's going to get some of his own. But Pittman through the first three games, 30% first read target rate. So he is the guy that they're looking for more often than not. And I think he has talent.

I don't think he's an elite player, but he think he's good enough to start capitalizing a lot more on the volume that he's getting. So I think this is just like it's a little bit of a leap of faith. obviously, but that's what we're doing in the show. And I think if Richardson starts to improve as the season goes on, Pittman is going to be the big beneficiary here. Again, passes the blurb test, 10 times easier to make a trade if the blur is negative. His Yahoo blurb ends with Pitman will have a hard time breaking out week four against the Steelers.

Boom. So he's had five three and five points and then he won't be good in week four either. So someone's like, all right, I'm going to cut bait on this dude. Yeah, maybe wait a week. Maybe wait one week. No, no, you got to strike while it's hot. I know, right. Play the Jags.

And then you have to kill the hope. That's the key to all this. Kill the hope. That's the key to life. Yeah. Speaking of killing hope. Next up, Mark Andrews,

tight end for the Ravens. Oh, my God. I don't, so the last three we've been saying, Tyreek, Richardson, Pittman,

or bylaws. Mark Andrews, I'll admit. So, you know, we gave out 13, 13 guys last week, 12 winners.

And then Mark Andrews, who had, let's see, or 1, 2, 3, 4. Zero catches. Mark Andrews ranks 33th among tight ends and points per game. 33rd. There's only 32 teams.

Dude, he's like a tight end three on any normal team in terms of the routes he's running. He ran six routes in week three. Six. He ran six routes in week three. Can I say that anymore? Like, that is absolutely ridiculous. That's fewer routes than

people named Nate Atkins, Tanner Connor, Payne Durham, Drew Sample. Payne Durham? Payne Durham. Josiah DeGuara. He ran six rounds more than me. That's not that many. Wait, who's the first person named Nate Atkins?

Nate Atkins. Again, it's like he's a tight end three on his own team. He's barely playing. He's barely getting out there in running routes. That's not going to be every week, obviously. But that sufficiently scared me off. I'm just like, I'm out. I think with Andrews, we got Tony Pollard did it because he got the tight rub surgery.

And I think we thought Andrews would be okay. And then Tony Pollard wasn't really himself to like mid-November. So in a way, I actually do think Andrews is a bylaw. because I think the people have them are absolutely sick. Oh, 100%. We already got an email, but someone to cut him after week one. It's week three. He got zero catches.

I think people are going to cut him. Man, people are rash, man. Cut him Mark Andrews after week one? What did I say last week? We got men in black. Like a person is smart. People are dumb, panicky animals. And I'm just saying, Mark Andrews is more a by low.

He's almost like someone who's on IR, like Hawkinson. I think of Mark Andrews as someone who might help your team in November and December. I don't think he'll be great for the next month. But listen, which tight ends are going to be great in the next month anyway, to be honest. So I think that's the way I'd look at it. I don't, but no one's charging a lot for Mark Andrews. I think the people have him are genuinely like it's one of them are stressful things happening in their entire lives.

Yeah, like he's a bylaw and that you'll get him for literally nothing. Yeah. I regret. I regret everything I said about Mark Andrews in Saucis season, other than he gives me the ick. That's the only thing I don't regret. You've been out on Mark Andrews every year of his career. And then this year, you're like, I went against my better judgment and I was like, yeah, he's probably like a buy.

He's probably, I was probably been too mean to him. And now I'm just like, God, I should have went with my gut on this one. Anyway, yeah. Speaking of which, on the on the tight end thing, Travis Kelsey Teton for the Chiefs, D.K., you had this one. He's another, I mean, Kelsey truly, I mean, he just doesn't look like himself. No, he's the tight end 26 on the season right behind Johnny Munt. Johnny Munt. Monk.

I love that guy. He is. And that's like he's He's a little bit behind what he should be He's the tight end 15 And expected fantasy points per game According to FantasyPoints.com And that's right behind

Zach Ertz Who you could have got in the very last round Or on waivers probably And you know what? Kelsey was moving a little bit like Earths lately And by that I mean he catches it And then he immediately falls down I mean isn't Travis Kelsey older than Zachertz?

Oh yeah Yeah Which feels kind of insane Yeah Zach Erts is 33 Travis Kelsey is 34. It's been 35 in two weeks. Kelsey, let's be real,

has never been the same ever since I said over and over and over again last summer that he's never missed a game to injury 10 years. And then he hasn't really been the same. Kelsey has 21 yards after the catch this year so far, total. 32nd among tight ends. He's just like a catch and fall down guy now. It's hard to watch. Also, his like role has been market corrected by Rishie Rice.

Rishie Rice is just like the guy who sits in zones and runs across the middle now. I will say, obviously, again, I think for Kelsey and Mark Andrews is the same thing. in that they're not going to get back to the peak, like, clearly we're there. But I do wonder if, like, two months or now are going to be like, they're going to be back to, like, 80% of what they were doing. I do think, frankly, teams playing the Chiefs, like, it's obvious that Rishie Rice is going to, like, you know, number one, they don't want any big plays to Xavier worthy to give up, and then they just don't want to be give.

I think that they're going to basically look at this and basically challenge Kelsey to start beating them again at some point because he's been such a non-factor, and I do think part of it is they are, they don't want to lose to Kelsey. But I do think the calculus might shift back the other way and be like, actually, we're going to, we're going to focus a little more on Rishi Rice and dare Kelsey to do something in the regular season. If I had to pick between Kelsey and Andrews to buy low on, I'm buying low on Kelsey. Yeah. I think I agree with that.

Andrews is that Andrews is lower because Kelsey's famous and also been better. And Andrews, I think, Andrews, I think is two weeks away from people releasing him. I agree. Can you just, you could sell low on name value alone and probably get someone that would be a little more consistent. Yeah, wait, real quick. Craig, gun to your head is Kelsey a sell lower or a buy low? By-low. And D-K, you're saying sell low on name value.

I actually kind of lead to it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just like not confident. I think Rishi Rice is he's younger, more explosive, and he's doing the things that they used to do with Kelsey more or less, like the over-the-middle stuff, crossing routes, run after the catch. Kelsey's just not doing that.

And it's not even like load management. He's playing, he's ran around on 85% of the team's dropbacks, which is fifth among tight ends. It's not like they're not playing him. He's just not doing anything when he's playing. It's tough. all right apologies to Tom Tom

next up here while we're tight in alley Craig you had Sam Laporta tied in for the lines it's by lower solo we need to talk this out

this is speaking of guys who are playing but are doing anything while they're playing Sam Leportas got 94 yards in three games he was carted off

with an ankle injury on Sunday and then came back a quarter later we got to talk about the cart we got to talk the cart

is easier than walking yeah no well guys in training can get carted off and they're like oh it's carted off at practice and someone tweets

it because I don't have to take a video Meanwhile, they're getting carted off because it's a training camp and they could, why would you make them walk? Yeah. I think Sam Laporte was carted off because it was like 45 seconds left to halftime. And they were like, oh, we'll just drive him in. Yeah. Yeah, because he did come right back.

And it's reported that he has like a low ankle sprain. So as Denny Carter puts it, the lowest ankle sprain in history. It's the lowest ankle sprain you can imagine. Do you think this is cart arbitrage? Because you're going to have like, he was carted off in the blur, but he wasn't. And so you do you just buy the dip on the cart because it really was a fake. It was a fake cart ride. That's actually pretty good, yeah.

Just take advantage of the cart. That image will never leave your mind of him on the cart. Just send them pictures of the cart, be like, I'm taking all the riskier. You know, I'll take him off your hands. This guy was all cap. I'll pick him up. I'm carded off the field. Carded!

Look, I'm willing to concede that perhaps Sam Laporte is not a top two tight end in fantasy because I think the offense runs too much and is too good and has too many good players and they spread the ball around a lot, a little bit like Kittle on the Niners, where Leporto's probably going to have his days, but he's not going to be as consistent in the touchdown regression. I think everybody saw coming. And also right now,

the reason why I think he might be a by-low is just that like the lions aren't passing the ball well right now at all. Goff has three touchdowns and six picks through three games. Craig. And so I'm like, you know, golf three-30 touchdowns last year and almost led the league in passing. This is my half-baked theory and thesis on why Sam Leporto is of Ilo. I feel like this is definitely much more of a theory than really I feel strong.

about this, but the way that Jared Gough is playing right now and struggling, I think a guy like Sam Leporta is the perfect solution for a guy who's been really bad in clean pockets, like you've been really struggling against the pressure or whatever, get a guy like Leporta in short and intermediate areas and start to give him like some confidence back

and get that mojo back that he had last year. So that's my theory and that's my hope is that they're going to get Leporta more involved because Gauph has been so, like, struggling so much. I totally agree. Laporte is on an 0-and-3 team or a one-and-two team in your league, I would target, like, him over Kelsey Nage's for sure. I totally agree. Laporte is a by low.

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This one to me, this is not a question. This is a by low, but it's a real. I think this is my favorite bylaw on the board. It's the Green Bay Packers, all of them. All the Green Bay Packers thing are bylaws. Jordan Love's coming back. And I think people know Jordan Love's coming back, but it's hard to explain.

Like Malik Willis passed for 300 yards last week. Jordan Love beat that number like 15 times just last year. Like it's hard to explain how much better this offense will get. And so Romeo Dobbs is a receiver. Frankly, he's probably on waivers in your league. Yeah. Like I would add Romeo Dobbs. He's Jordan Love's favorite target. And that's an easy ad.

Tucker Kraft, the tight end for the Packers. I would add Tucker Kraft because like there are very few tights ends left on waivers that I think could like fix your tight your god awful tight end position the rest of the season. Tucker Kraft is the Packers starting to add and I think that Jordan Love coming back could fix him. I would add those guys they're not even by loads. They're just ads. For waivers Christian Watson, Craig wax poetic all summer about how Christian Watson's a buy low. Well, he's lower now and it's not his fault. It's because of Malik Willis. But most importantly, Josh Jacobs is my favorite by low. He has been good. I think Josh Jacobs will be great going

forward. He just hasn't scored any touchdowns. And I think it like no one's, I don't think the people have them think he could go nuclear, but I think Josh Shikkim's is great. But any of the Packers, anybody who has an 0-and-3 or one-and-two-year league, I'd knock on the door and ask about the guys in Green Bay. I think Watson is the clearest definition of a by-low because I think in order to pull this trade off, look, everybody knows Jordan Love's coming back and that a lot of people who have Packers are just like hunkering down and waiting for love to come back. So, like, Jaden reads the hardest one, in my opinion, to trade for it because he had a good

game with Jordan Love. Watson, in my opinion, is easier because he didn't really have a good game with Jordan love. He had one catch for a touchdown. So I think that makes sense. Jacobs, I think, is a little bit harder. I mean, Jacobs had 150 rushing yards last week. He led the league. I don't know how many people are willing to sell

Josh Jacobs after him leading the league in rushing in week two, and then Jordan loves coming back in week four. You might have to give up a decent amount. Yeah, I would though. And again, I think that a lot of it, what it comes down to is it's less like, go get Josh Jacobs for sure.

It's more like if Josh Jacobs is on at 0.3 team, if Josh Jacobs is on a one and two team, like those are the teams trying to shake it up. And again, you look and you're like, oh, should I give this guy up? And they say, again, most people just look and see 11, 13, 5. And they're like, oh, well, that's not going well. But yeah, Watson, I also think, I mean, I've been, I know people in a work league who Christian Watson got cut. Like Watson, I agree with Craig.

Yeah, yeah, the guy. Okay. Next up, speaking of your guys from over the summer, Craig. Mike Evans, receiver for the bucks. Mike Evans is the perfect bylaw, I think, right now. He's the perfect archetype. Player who's still good, good offense. He's had two bad games in a row.

Godwin is exploding. I'm sure most people are thinking, is it over for Evans? Has Godwin taken over? And it looks like it. Last week he had two points. It was his worst game in seven games. And I think the majority of that can be attributed to the fact that he was basically

shadowed by Patrick Sertan on Denver, who over the course of three games has shut down D.K. Metcalfe, George Pickens, and Mike Evans. Those three guys have totaled 75 yards the last three weeks because of Patrick Sartan. So I'm kind of like, look, Evans still has it. I think this offense is good. Scott Barrett at fantasy points has a stat called average separation score, which he calls ass.

Good branding. Good branding. Great branding. It's like, how good are guys at separating? Are they still good? Can they separate and get open? Mike Evans is third in the NFL in average separation right now.

Third in ass. He's still got it. He does still got it. He's got the ass. So if anybody is like, you know what? Mike Evans five points, two points. I'm good.

This is Godwin's team now. I would pounce. D.K., you like Mike Evans' ass? I do. My whole thesis on Chris Godwin. coming into the season was that the pendulum was going to swing for Mike Evans over to Godwin a little bit and it would like even out. But the pendulum has swung all the way over to Godwin. He's like the third. He's like the wide receiver three or something like that right now. And so I don't think that's

going to continue all season. I think it'll even out. We'll see more regression towards just like a balance between the two. And so yeah, I think Mike Evans is a brilliant by low right now. People are probably a little bit frustrated by him, nine and a half points per game. You know, I think he'll get The magic that we saw from him in Mayfield last year, I don't think was like a fluke. We'll start to see a little bit more of that going forward. Yeah, two touchdowns. Week one.

Uh-oh, five seconds left for Tom, Tom. What are we going to talk about? We got to fill some dead air here. Are you guys going to see Megalopolis this weekend? I hear it's good. My fist just goes ass. I panicked. Next up, Brandon Ayuk receiver of the 49ers.

This is mine. I think Brandon Ayuk is my favorite by low right now left. Everyone's frustrated with him right now. even 49ers fans, right? I think everyone, everyone, yeah, everyone, no one likes Brinna, Yook. It's the everyone who eats Chris. It's funny. Yeah, like the second Debo and Kittle are out.

They're like, finally, Iyuk, he's warm now. He sucked the first two weeks, dropping passes left and right. Joanne Jennings three-thouss. If you get a huge contract and then you suck, everyone's just out to get you. But like, Brandon, that's fair. That's actually very fair. Well, you missed all training camp. And you know what?

Brandon Ayuk looks like someone who missed all a freaking training camp. Because you know what I mean? Like he didn't, because here's the thing, week one and two is so, rusty. The timing was, it was off. Like, he didn't look very good. He didn't, he wasn't, you know, it looked like someone who doesn't practice in a month. And then Chris McCaffrey's out, George Kiddles out, Debo's out. All right, this is the Brennan of Yuc week last week. And then Joanne Jennings has 45 points. And Joanne Jennings is out who scoring all the points to the Niners. And then Ayuk didn't do anything. He dropped like a few passes.

Purdy didn't hit him on a huge deep ball. Like Iyuk should have had 150 yards in this game. But instead, Brenna Euk has fewer points per game this season than Tutu Atwell and Ray Ray McLeod. Oh, God. I hate those stats. Iyuk best ass in the league right now. Yeah, no, but also, yeah, but that's that. The point is, Iuke's playing fine. The problem's just timing, rhythm, it'll be okay. And catching.

Catching is probably frustrated. Catching has been hard. Catching's been hard, but like, it'll, he'll get over it. And I, I think Ayuk has some really, really, he'll get over it. He'll get over. He'll get it out. This is one of those, this is a, this is like a perfect bet on talent situation, I think. Obviously, the offense is very good, too.

Brock Purdy looked awesome in that last game, so I don't, I'm not fearful that he'll fall off with all the stars kind of injured right now on San Francisco. So yeah, this one is, I think, really smart as well. He's really underplayed his expectation in terms of fantasy points, like expected fantasy points. He's six points under on average. So that's a massive disparity. It's going to even out. And he'll probably end up scoring more points than expected as the season goes along. You could trade for him and Mike Evans right now. Change your whole season around. There you go. Boom. Tom, sound. Bang.

Ass. Ass. Ass. Next up, T. Higgins, receiver for the Bengals, D.K. Oh. Yeah, so I love T. Higgins. This is another bet on talent. He missed a lot of training camp.

I missed a couple games. Had a hamstring injury. People thought it was more related to a contract, but it doesn't sound like that was actually the case. If people are kind of getting impatient with him, especially if they didn't watch the Monday night game where they just look at the box score, Chase scored almost 30 points in PPR.

Yosey Vash was 16 and a half points. And then there's Higgins there with like seven points in PPR. If people are kind of getting fresh away with that, you might be able to exploit that. Because Higgins should have had a much bigger game. According to expected fantasy points from fantasy points.com is almost 15 fantasy points in that game. He barely missed on a couple big plays down the field. He caught one with his like one-handed, like a 30-something yard pass from Joe Burrow, one-handed. He was just barely out of bounds.

He got, there was a DPI on a two-point conversion that should have been called, but wasn't. And he missed on a couple of plays in the end zone. So T. Higgins is like the George Pickens' older brother in that he also A YouTube compilation where he'd make the Hall of Fame of just catches that didn't count. Like if a football field was 54 yards wide, T. Higgins would have had it 200 yards last night. Yeah. I thought he looked good. Like he didn't look rusty to me.

It was just kind of bad luck that he didn't have a big game. And I think crucially, the Bengals' offenses look pretty good. Joe Burrow really feels like the wrist isn't affecting him too much. He's slinging it. He had a couple big throws down the field. The offense's success rate has been really, really strong. I think better days are coming for the Bengals offense. And I think right now is the time to buy Higgins when people might be frustrated with him.

You think people are willing to shop him after one game? Again, I think especially if they didn't watch the game closely, that could be where you can take advantage. If they're aware of all these advanced stats are probably not going to give up on him right now. But I mean, 6.9 points after sitting him the first couple of weeks, it's just like people might be willing to it out. Craig, Craig brings up a good point about context with buying. I think that will people give up on someone? And I think this is, T. Higgins is the perfect example to me of did they want to draft him or did they like auto draft him? Sometimes people take a player and are like, oh, I didn't even really want him. Yeah. I feel like T. Higgins is like, you know, almost like an

Amari Cooper. Totally about the receivers in Orange and Ohio. But, you know, check in on the, you know, people are like, oh, I knew I shouldn't have taken T. Higgins this year. All right. Next up, we have, Craig, you sent in the Steelers, period. George Pickens, Naji, just Pittsburgh. Yeah, I think with Naji, I like him kind of in the immediate future, and I think Pippins is a more like season-long play. Noggi has the fourth biggest gap between fantasy points he's actually scored

and the expected fantasy points he basically should have scored. He's six in the league right now and carries, and he's 32nd in points. He's got zero touchdowns. And they haven't gotten in the end of, on a lot, Pitt, but the next three weeks they're playing the Colts, the Cowboys, and the Raiders, which are

three of the five worst run defenses in the league. Jalen Warren has been banged up all year. Tomlin basically pulled him from the game because of a knee injury last week. Warren's week to week now. Right. And Najee heard his arm, his arm was in a sling after the game, but Tomlin said he's good to go for this week. So I just

think, like, you're getting a guy who's getting 20 carries a game and they're running the shit out of the ball. Pickens, I think, is more long term when they start to have to throw a little bit more. All of these games have been such slogs. They played week one, hobbled Kirk. They played rookie Boe Nixon his second game. And they played a hobbled Herbert. So they really haven't had to do much, especially in the second half.

And Pickens is still getting the majority of the work in Pittsburgh. He's getting 25% of the team's targets, which is 16th best in the NFL. So I just think kind of both these guys are a little bit in the by low category. I have three thoughts on that. One, hobbled Herbert is what Trump would call Herbert if he didn't like him. That's a really funny nickname. Two, I totally agree with the snotj is a good by-low. And then three, you are a medical expert who pioneered the belief that a player leaving in a game in a boot is actually a good thing.

Yeah. Do you think running back leaving in a sling, is that actually a good sign? No. No. I'm going to say no. But look, he'll just lean with the other shoulder forward. That's why you got two hands. Come on. Yeah, I think it'll be fine. Noggi's the most boring running back in the league.

It's like him, Zach Charbonnet. Who else? James Connor maybe. Alger. Oh, well, yeah. If he plays Alger, I think good times are ahead. I don't know. I feel lukewarm about that because I think there's a chance

that every Steelers game is like 16 to 10. But I do think there is like a bit of opportunity to move on. Hobbled Herbert. Hobbled Herbert. All right. last year, this is just repeats from last week, but I think the guys who we talked about last week that were better, but we still are bylaws.

Or just Tank Dell and Cortland Sutton. It's just, Tank Dell, I just still think, he's a little banged up too. I think he's a great blurb test candidate because if anyone who clicks on his blurb, it's going to be like, oh, wrist injury and whatever. I think Tankdale's going to be fine.

And again, the Texans just had a nightmare game last week against the Vikings. It's just the worst. No one's rocked the Texans like that since C. C.J. Stroud became Stroud. Tankdale still has the, has the mind meld with CJ Stroud, it's going to work. Like, I'm not, I'm, I still think anyone who has Tank Dell is probably a little nervous.

Like, fuck, why did I take Tank Dell with the 54th pick when they had Stefan Diggs and Nico Collins? What was I thinking? And the other guys just Quentin Sutton for the Broncos. And like, Bonix played better and Quentin Sutton had a better game, but he doesn't have any touchdowns. So again, PFF has expected fantasy points. No, there's no player in fantasy that is a larger gap and how many touchdowns they were expected to score and have actually scored, which is zero than Quarton. I don't, again, I don't even like Corleton Sutton Sutton.

I just feel like if I do share a responsibility to share that Corlton Sutton's a good bylaw. I don't even like the guy. No, I like the guy. I don't like him in Flair. Legally speaking, he has to share that every time. Yeah. I don't even like him.

I don't. Does it feel as though we have learned nothing after the Tony Pollard broken leg if we're just back in on Tank Dell the first year after he broke his leg? Possibly. But like the timeline mattered. My issue with Tony Pollard was always

that he broke his leg in like January 25th. What? Mid-season? Craig, when have we ever learned anything? I'm just saying, there's going to be a little bit of post-knit clarity

on Tank Dell if he has a bad season. We're going to be like, well, he did break his leg. This is good. What have we learned? I don't know. Do this for like five years. Have we learned anything?

You have to get back to me on that. I learned how to pronounce Maestro. I learned how much a cloud weighs. I don't truly believe it still, but I also learned that. Honestly, the number one thing I've learned from doing this spot, like not even close,

the number of thing I've learned is that it's sunny and share. I can't believe. Thought it was sunny. Sunny. Sunny and share. You know, there are flat earthers. D.K.

and I are weightless clouders. Craig, I literally almost said, I'm going to put together a documentary. If we're going to try and find some funding to prove to the world that clouds don't actually weigh a million pounds. There's no way that's true. I don't understand how that could be possible.

Well, they're made of water and they're big. A billion pounds. They're floating. Don't get it. it's water, but like, does rain have weight? I don't know. You know what? Rain's falling. I don't get it.

But if water is on the ground, that weighs something, right? Yeah, yeah. Sure. So the cloud was the rain. The water droplets get heavy enough and big enough to fall out of the cloud. Yeah, but exactly. The cloud was the rain. Look, I get it in theory. Still not. Look, I'm sure Flat Earthers understand what the others are trying to say, but I refuse to believe it. Craig, what's our agenda? Why do we care? It doesn't matter. We just want to prove that it's false.

I don't want to feel like when I'm in an airplane, I'm flying into a billion pound object. Is the cloud an object? I don't. What is it? Whatever. If it weighs a billion pounds, it's an object. It's an object if it weighs a billion pounds. But objects have to, but it's a gas.

A gas can't be an object. Is Jupiter an object? Yeah, that's a solid. Isn't it a gaseous planet? Well, I think that's Venus. Gaseous has a gaseous. Gaseous? I don't know to say that word.

Venus gas? Gase? I said Jupiter. I meant to say Jupiter. You said Jupiter. I think you met Venus. No, no, no. I think Jupiter is a gas.

Jupiter is a gas, the whole thing? It's a gas giant. Get the, get out of here. Craig, look it up. All right. Is anyone of the YouTube comments who can answer this? Wait. What?

It is a gas giant. What does that mean? Gas giants. I don't know, man. Jupiter is a gas giant. The four gas giant, Neptune, Uranus, Saturn, and Jupiter. Gas giants near to the stirers are often called hot

Jupiters? Oh, wow. Hot Girl Summer. Are they just covered with gas? They're not entirely gas. I'm on the NASA website. I think they're all gas. No. Get out of here. 100%. I don't think so. We landed Cassini on Saturn. We sent something to Jupiter. I don't think, I don't think they're entirely

gas. I think they are. Email us at ringer fantasy football at jubble.com to the email is, if you know what the hell's going on. You can fly right through it, Craig. Is it cloud an object? That's what I'm still fixated on. Email us at ringer fantasy football Gmail.com about Jupiter and also send us some trivia questions about Jupiter. Cassini landed on Titan.

That was a moon. Yeah, that was a moon. Yeah. Oh, Titan moon of Saturn. That's like the best ringer article that ever ran. If anyone wants to Google the ringer. Ben Lindberg did a story on, you Google the ringer, Cassini, Ben Lindberg.

And like, it's just everyone who worked on the Cassini mission, and everyone picks one photo from that. They took like 100,000 photos. And everyone picks their favorite one. It explains why. It's amazing. So the definition of an object is a material thing that can be seen and touched. Can you touch a clock?

So someone in the chat just said, Jake just said in the cloud, clouds are weightless, but not massless. But does mass have weight? Isn't that like the definition of mass? Probably not. Probably not since clouds would refuse that. John Richter is running this live stream first says gas giants have a solid core, but they're made up of super dense soupy gases-ish.

So it is solid. Okay. We're going to have to get to the bottom of this. Yeah, let's figure this out. I don't know what that means weightless. It's weightless, but it's not. massive. There's so many ghosts right now screaming. We clearly don't understand

physics. There's protons and neutrons in the cloud. I think it was like doing fantasy football prep during this part of physics class. All right. Emails at Rear Fantasy Football Journal.com if you can answer any of our questions about Jupiter or clouds please. Including all the clouds on Jupiter. Also, yes. Tell us all about Jupiter.

Please. Also, some of some trivia questions about Jupiter and also that storm that's been going on Jupiter for like a thousand years or whatever. That thing's crazy. Anyway, all right, let's do some fantasy court. All rise. Fannie's in session. I do want to just do a quick follow-up on one we had last week that was very engaging.

We basically, someone got drunk and dropped the Monra St. Brown and Marvin Harrison, Jr. And the commissioner basically was like, you can have a Monra back, but Marvin Harrison Jr. is going to waivers and like split the baby. And we basically punted to the lower court. Like, you know what?

Hard situation. Respect the commissioner for like making a tough decision. A lot of people really waited on this, a lot. And a lot of people trying to control the balance of the league. I want to shout out Sean. Sean. Sean just throughout a novel decision we had not thought of. And Sean said, I would like to submit a ruling from a lower court.

I believe the commissioner's decision to refund a Monra to the stupid owner is fair. But he believes Marvin Harrison Jr. should have just been left on waivers. Taken out of the running to be picked up. Sean's saying Marvin Harrison Jr. on waivers going to another team creates an unnatural shift in power. He says instead, Marvin Harrison Jr. should be banned from the league, not acquireable by any team, live out his days in free agency. Basically sent to the wall, like Game of Thrones.

Sent to Elba, you know, like Napoleon. That's fine. I think that's really funny. I don't hate that. I still don't like the commissioner just giving him back a Monroa St. Brown and not, like, well, how did he decide that? Maybe the commissioner also was like, I might get drunk one day and make a mistake and like, you know, we got a kid's a deep card oppressive.

But anyway, I like the idea of just Marvin Erson Jr. I do too. That's fun. The lesson here is don't drink and drop. Yeah. That's the lesson. All right. This one's from Mitch. Mitch. Mitchell. Mitchel.

I'm the commissioner of a 14-man league. We had an interesting situation now this week. A guy was up half a point on his opponent. Only person left in the matchup with the Jaggers defense. Jacks D is on the team of the guy who's up half a point. Fantasy manager's phone broke on Friday. Unable to make a decision of whether to keep the Jags in. Text at the end of the Bill's Jags game that he would have liked to take out the defense,

guaranteeing a win. The league is 50-50 split on this on what to do. I'm at the mercy of the trio of the fantasy. to help me out. What do I do? Wait, wait. His phone broke on Friday? Yeah, I'm kind of like, I can't believe the league is split on this. This is the easy thing ever. He lost and was like, I would have liked to win, please. I'm like, look at you three days. Send a fucking carrier pigeon.

Yeah, wait, what? I don't. I thought this was easy, but I couldn't believe the league was split on this. So I'm not crazy, right? This is insane. He lost and then he wants to change his lineup. Was he like camping and only had his phone and his phone broke on Friday? He had no form of communication or was he just like at his house? I know. I'm like, go to your computer. Send it to the public library. Get a friend to do it. I don't know. Figure it out.

Go to the post office. Anyway, no, it's the guy. This is kind of dry. I actually think I, who are these league mates that are voting that he gets to? See, dude. That's what I'm saying. Everybody's getting way too soft these days. Dude, yeah. Craig, Jeff on crime. All right. Well, tough on crime.

All right. This one's from Andy. Andrew. Andy. This isn't a court case. This is where he's approached our office, our chambers. Okay. Andy says, I need a fantasy lawyer right now. Okay.

Well, we're judges, but okay. My league allows for two keepers each season, and we also have one IR spot. I have completely forgot that keepers are not allowed to go in the IR spot. But I've had my keepers there for weeks two and three. And we are also not allowed to drop keepers. And so if we decide to keep someone, we have them the entire season.

Andy writes, nobody's caught me yet. Nobody's caught me. I already played the commissioner last week. He didn't notice. So it's possible I don't get caught at all until I play the tattletail of the league in week 11. And I like having the extra roster space for the guy that I'm not supposed to drop.

We don't have any sort of written punishment for violating this rule. Should I just stay the course with my keeper on IR? Should I quietly take him off IR and drop someone else? And if I get caught, do I play dumb? So it's like, do I return the wallet that I just found with $300 in it. Keep the money and return the wallet.

Look, we don't know your reputation within the league, Andy, but if you think it's plausible that you could play dumb and people would believe it, I think I would do that. Yes. But if you're like...

You ain't trying. But if you're like one of the founders of the league or you're like, you're big into fantasy and you're in everyone, you know, if you're very involved every year, this might be less believable. But if nobody, if this is like a classic Andy move to forget a rule of the league, I think you 100% just ride this out and pretend.

Why did, why is there no keepers on IR? Why can't that be a thing? I mean, it's like, it's like, there's always something happened. It's like, you see a sign something happened, you know? And it's like, if there's a rule like that, that's specific, then something, some shit happened that someone took advantage. The commissioner didn't even notice. You know what I mean?

It's like, no, don't touch this paint. It's like someone fucking touched the paint. Like, that's why the sign went there. I mean, I guess the commissioner not noticing. I mean, how often are you like parsing through your opponent's bench? Yeah. I like the two. Every league does have a tattletail.

I like the idea that like he's like, I play the freaking, you know, Bill in week 11 and like Bill's going to wrap me out. I think that's just funny. Yeah, I mean, the ignorance works. This is a gray area. This is definitely a gray area. He probably shouldn't have like written this into a podcast that's going to record this for all time. With millions of listeners. Millions.

One million. Yeah. I know like millions and millions. He must have been pretty confident that no one in his league listens to our show. Yeah, they'll do it all. Yeah, they'll do it all this freaking fantasy show. You know, it's going to check this thing. Yeah, play dumb.

Well, no, we're not a retainer. We can't advise him to do that because he's not a client. 100%. We're lawyers in this situation, not judges. So as your lawyer, we can't advise you to do anything. Yeah. I mean, definitely don't tell anyone about this thing that you're doing. You should not have put this in writing.

Dude, they will read your email and discovery. The best line in the entire The Wire, the show is just the head crime, the head of the crime syndicate turns to his assistant. He's like, are you taking notes on a criminal fucking conspiracy? Like, give me that shit. It's like, oh my God. All right. This one, the last one was from Andy. This was from Andrew.

All right. Andy. Andy. Drew. Are you taking notes on a criminal conspiracy? All right. Sorry. Andrew, our Fantasy League punishment was the person who came in last,

and the person who came in second to last were handcuffed to each other in public for 12 hours. That's awesome. It's incredible. Do they have to dress? Like, they just escaped jail or prison or whatever. Also, like, that could lead to bad. Tough beat for the guy who got second to last. That sucks.

Well, that's what the email is about because he said this year we're running back, but we've controversy. Basically, the guy who came in second or last came in like sixth or something or seventh. And like almost made the point. playoffs, barely missed out, and then his team missed one week, ends up in the last place game, but then it doesn't matter, you already do it. So he's like, I almost made the playoffs and I'm a handcuffed to someone for 12 hours. It's ridiculous. So they have the question, should the two people be the dead last matchup, both of them, dead last regular season or combination. We need your guys'

thoughts. Also, we need more ideas for the two losers to do in public with the official handcuffs. Wait, so they're asking how they should decide who is last place? Because of what you just said, but I think the answer is easy. Whoever comes in last, last place in the regular season, the 10th place person in the regular season is locked into the handcuffs, so to speak. And then whoever loses the toilet bowl is locked into the handcuffs, so to speak. And if it's the same person, then they're just handcuffed to themselves.

Yeah, they literally have to handcuff themselves for 12 hours. I think that's it. Because I agree that, like, if you almost miss the playoffs, the idea that, like, you should be doing a punishment is insane. I know. Wait, so is the toilet bowl, like the, the, the playoff losers bracket? Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, like the same week as the finals.

Yeah. The same week as, like, the championships going on, whatever that matchup is the, of the worst place teams. I agree. I'm a big fan of the losers bracket so that they have something to play for in the playoffs. Or like if you win, you're out and if you lose,

you advance. I think that's great. It really worked. The reason punishments aren't just dumb to be like, go to a awful house. It's like the actual utility of it is when you're at the trade deadline and like someone's like, I'm not going to win this year. And they're like, hey,

can I have, you know, Brandon Ayyuk for like, you know, my kicker. And then they're like, I don't really want to be handcuffed. They said we took,

we took the handcuff guys to the sandbar on the fourth. of July and then to the busiest restaurant in town. And you're like, you know, maybe I don't want to give you, Brandon, are you? I mean, yeah, I think my vote would be to, yeah, like, you have to play it all the way through the end of the season and give the people a reason to compete at the end of the season, right?

You know, when I was a kid, my dad is a retired police officer, and when I was a kid, I went into his nightstand and I handcuffed, I think I was maybe eight, I handcuffed myself to his nightstand while he was at work. and he the key was not in the nightstand it was on his person or in his car

or something so I was super late to school why are the handcuffs in the nightstand Greg I don't know sure they were police handcuffs how dare you suggest anything like that about my father did they have like fuzz on them were they like okay okay sorry what a despicable thing to say sorry everyone was thinking it

I was like mom these are pink these are pink I was also thinking it these don't hurt I thought there was the hurt. Luxurious. Wait, so how long were you handcuffed to the nightstand? Multiple hours.

Did you have a cell phone? I was like eight. No, I have a cell phone. So no. But my mom was home because she was supposed to take me to school and she was like, Craig, are you ready to go to school? And I was like, not exactly. Not exactly.

My dad worked in Alameda. I lived in San Ramon, which was like an hour drive. So he literally had to drive home and unlock me. Are you ready to go? Not exactly. That's a good answer. Yeah. God, that's good.

That's actually... Emails at Ringier Fantasy Footballachemil.com. I don't know what I want out of that, but I want something. Tell us some. Something, whatever... Yeah, something. I don't know what I want there,

but I want something. I've never considered why the handcuffs were in the nightstands. Oh, sorry. Oh, no. Oh, my God. That's so funny. All right, a couple emails for get out of here.

Do we have any assistant emails? I was really hoping we're doing good ones. Okay, good. We do. I want to... Yeah, real quick, I want to shout out Connor. Connor. Conbon. We talked about the Battle of the

Bulge on Monday's show with trivia and Connor wanted to history buff shouted us out. The Battle of the Bulge is the one depicted in the band of brothers toward the end. That's the one that we always joke about. Lieutenant Spears. That's the Battle of the Bulls. Like that's what they're doing.

So yeah. I think that's incredible. Was that in like FOI? I think it was. Yeah, FOI. And that's where the astounding thing was he came back. Yeah. That's awesome.

I didn't realize that. We did get some assistant emails. I want insane boss emails. This one's from Travis. Travis. Oh, my voice just cracked. Trave. He's just rattled from the nightstand thing.

He still shook. Yeah. I got to call my mom after this. We got a lot to unpack here. Travis says, my boss, again, we asked for stories about crazy bosses. Travis says, my boss for my summer internship this year. I think Travis is young. My boss for my summer internship this year was basically Saul Goodman.

He was always plotting these nefarious schemes and roping me into them. My God. One of these schemes was hatched when he was facing complaints from the HOA of the community surrounding his house. My boss did not sell his land to the development company. So they just built around his house like an up. Oh, wow. So to get the HOA off his back, he wanted me to go bury a bag of fake human bones in his back. Oh my God, dude.

And he wanted me to take pictures of me digging up these fake bones that I planted in university lab coats and to make it look like an official dig. Because in Washington State, if you find a burial ground thing. Yes, like a barrel ground. Because if you find indigenous bones that are unearthed, the entire surrounding area may also be dug up in search for more bones or artifacts. So my boss's plan was to use the pictures of me digging up the fake indigenous. bones to threaten the HOA to leave him alone or else he would have people dug up their everyone else's backyard. And for all of this to commit multiple crimes, my boss offered me $50. I was going to say, is this guy, he's probably working for free too. He's probably not even

paid at this internship. 50 dollars. He's like, I'll give you 50 extra dollars to bury fake bones and pretend you found a Native American burial guy. Oh, that's, that's hilarious. I don't know, Mr. Crackett. This doesn't feel real legal. I do get it though. I can see Saul Goodman doing that. 100%. That is a Saul Goodman ass plan. Where did he buy the

fake human bones? I don't think he did. Craig, he didn't buy him. He quit the job. No, no, I'm saying, like, where did Saul Goodman want him to get the fake human bones? Okay, I was actually wondering that because I'm imagining of like... Halloween. You know, like, Spirit. Halloween is like a spirit.

Halloween just buying bones and just basically what I found. Also, if you like dig them up and you take photos of yourselves with these bones, wouldn't people want to maybe follow up and look at the bones? You have like additional questions. I threw them all way. Why are you taking pictures of someone digging up bones?

I was at Lowe's the other day and there's like you can buy these giant like 50 foot skeletons for like Halloween decorations. Dude, yeah, my Ace Hardware has those too. It's like a huge, yeah. Why are you guys going to Ace Hardware and Lowe so much? because I'm fucking old.

What are you doing at Ace? What are you getting? Okay, you want to ask the house project, buddy? Yeah, so we were at Trader Joe's a couple days ago, and Jackie saw this little pot of potted pepper plants like baby, like mini peppers. Jackie thought it was really cute. So we got it.

She was like, yeah, we got it. So we got it. And then Jackie comes up, so she went on Reddit that actually. So I bought it for her. No big deal. Yeah, you need to re-pot it really quickly. But you need to repot it really quickly. So she asked me to go get potting soil this morning to save these baby peppers we got from Trader Joe's.

Have you ever felt like Dumber than when you go into like a hardware store and you're like I don't know where the fuck anything is here I don't want to ask. I'll search around this store for two hours without asking someone. Can I help you with anything? Nope.

I'm good. I know exactly where I'm going. I know where everything is. I just came here to look around. Then you try and like explain what something is to the people that work there. It's like it's a metal piece. that you put around I don't know

definitely not I've never done that but it would be funny if you did all right last email here it's from Luca Luca funny thing happened last time

I listened to this show I was picking up my wife from work and I was waiting in the car listening to the show and when she hopped in the car I turned off the show we drive home and later that evening

my wife comes up to me and goes honey can we talk? Uh-oh. My life flashes before my eyes. And I'm mentally preparing for the rest of my life to live alone. So I ask her, what's up? And she goes, are you becoming religious?

And he's like, and he writes us an aside here, like religion's never been a big part of our lives. And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? And she says, well, I've heard you listen to these religious podcasts where they thank the Lord all the time. Thank you, Lord. And he's like, what are you talking about? This is a great retention rate. guys closing every up. I love that.

He's like, what are you talking about? She's like, you were listening to it earlier when you pick me up. It's all right. I just want to know. And then he's like, and then everything quit. Right. He's like hiding it from her. So the display in his car. They always think the Lord and then an 80s rock band. So literally what happened was the display in Lucas Carr shows like the quote unquote lyrics every time to listen to Spotify. Just as I am shouting, thank you, Lorne. His wife opens the door. And the display read, thank you Lord. And he says, so apparently she thought I was finding Jesus. Meanwhile, I was listening to three guys argue about eel orgies.

Is that irony? I don't know. That's hilarious. What did we find out about eel orgies, by the way? Did we ever follow up about that? They just go to one place and then they spawn. Free for all, like the Vyastoth rack of eels. It's the Olympic village.

Yeah, Olympic village of eels. Oh, that's funny. Thank you, Lord. Thank you. Yeah, there we go. All right. But honestly, really, though, thank you, Lauren. Yeah, yeah, thank you, everyone for emailing us. Thank you everyone for watching this YouTube live stream. If you guys are listening to this podcast, if you want to watch the live stream,

the live streams on the Ringar NFL channel on YouTube on YouTube on YouTube as well, in addition to every platform. So you can subscribe to Ringar NFL. We'll be doing this every Tuesday night during the seasons. You can see all the stuff that doesn't get cut out of the show like normal. Yeah, because we're doing it live. Yeah, like, you know, that part about the nightstand, which Greg, is probably going to really wish that we'd cut out of the show. But, you know, it's fine.

And the YouTube is forever. So. Yeah, this is our Schneider cut every Tuesday. So email us about really, I mean, the nightstand thing, but really, email us about Jupiter, clouds, weight versus mass, just, what, gas, solid. I don't know what's going on there. But please email us about that and also email us trivia questions about that stuff too. And again, our week one or week four, week four already, week four rankings will be up

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And then also, of course, Friday previews. Thank you, Dekh. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Richter. Thank you, Rikter. Thank you, Kroh, for producing this episode. Thank you, Kira.

Thank you, Austin. There's so many people. There's a lot of people. Thank you to everyone. And, of course. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, Lord.

Oh. Nice. He still got it. You do so. Yeah. I like Lord. I'm a big soul. I love Lord.

I love Lord. I love Lord. Tell us about your relationship with the Lord. With Lord. I like the relationship with the Lord. Super Cut's a great song. Supercuts a great song. I think her second album was a bit of a miss.

She needs to come back strong. Yeah, she was too horny on the second one. Like the album cover was kind of a thirst trap. But like it's, I mean, it's okay. But like the, I think Supercuts great. Is the Royals? Is that the first? album that she did?

Yeah. With Royals. I think that whole album slaps. It does. I can listen to that from start to finish. Yeah, really good. Pitchfork ranked like all the songs of the 2010s and they put royals like top five.

And I was like, yeah, that's definitely true. It's incredible. It's a great song. I got played into the fucking dirt though, man. By the time that thing was done, I was sick of it. But I agree now later on. But I started listening to it again like last year. I don't know why it came up.

But like I started and I was like, damn, the songs, I just started singing into myself like over and over. But also I don't, I don't think. I think the bad album was her third album. Because she had the Royals album was good. And then melodrama had had super cut and green light. Oh, yeah, I'm wrong. That one was great. That one was good.

It's the newest one, the one with her just like running on the beach as the album cover. Yeah, that one was a miss. That didn't hit. Eternal Sunshine, I think it's called. Yes, that one's fine. Second week in a row, this came up at the Charlie X, X, CX, 30 first birthday party where like someone brought the bouquet of cigarettes and all these famous people came. Lord was like really

Yeah she's in the mix She looked like yeah But she looked like she was trying harder I don't know how to Like all the videos of her singing Because she had a feature on that album And she was I don't know She looked like she was trying much harder than everyone

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