The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking Fantasy Trade Targets, Fantasy Court, and Ronnie Is Only Here for the Zipline
Episode Date: November 19, 2025The guys start the show by bringing on The Ringer’s Austin Gayle to rant about the incompetence of the Las Vegas Raiders following their loss to the Dallas Cowboys on Monday night. Next, they power-...rank their favorite fantasy trade targets in this week’s Power Hour, share some Ringer fantasy football league updates, listen to a fantasy court case, and answer some emails before closing the show. 00:00 Start of Show 01:47 Austin Gayle Rants on the Raiders 17:18 Power Hour: Fantasy Trade Targets 19:30 Amon-Ra St. Brown 23:16 Baltimore Ravens 25:36 Chris Olave 27:55 Quinshon Judkins 31:55 Ricky Pearsall 34:45 Brock Purdy 37:20 Woody Marks 42:18 DK Metcalf 51:48 Ringer Fantasy Football League Update 53:31 Fantasy Court 59:19 Emails The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. This episode is brought to you by American Eagle. This episode is sponsored by Chime. Bank Smarter, Progress Further. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show.
My name is Danny Highton.
I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck.
And today it is Power Hour.
Every Wednesday we power a something.
And we were doing one final list of trade targets.
And Craig yells at me for Bailos, but trade targets and bylaws for fantasy football.
Before the trade deadlines, check your deadlines at Yahoo, whatever platform you play on.
And check those out.
And we're also going to go through Fantasy Court, emails.
And then before that, though.
And we're going to start with an impassioned speech by the ringers very own, Austin Gale.
who has thoughts on the Monday night football game,
the Raiders losing to the Cowboys, 33 to 16.
So after this break,
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Okay.
We're coming to here.
D.K. Craig and I,
we're joined by Austin Gale here at the Ringer.
And Austin, I just asked you,
what did you think of the Raiders game
right before we started recording?
And your answer was so impassioned
that we just kind of paused you
and we're like, we're just going to start recording
and re-asked this question.
So, Austin, what'd you think of the Raiders game, Austin?
Honestly, it could have been more embarrassing last night.
I was supposed to blog off the game to use Lindsey Jones, our editor's words,
if it's really embarrassing.
And somehow it wasn't embarrassing enough for a blog,
but I still feel pretty embarrassed.
It was the last time you're going to see these Las Vegas Raiders in primetime.
It might be the last time you see Pete Carroll coaching in the NFL in primetime
time because it's just been that bad this year.
And if I had to rank, because everyone's on Chip Kelly's ass,
everyone's on Gino Smith and him kind of bottoming out this year.
If I had to rank the most, the biggest problem with this Raiders team,
it starts and ends with Pete.
Whoa.
I think the.
reason is, and D.K., correct me if I'm wrong, Pete's supposed to come in and be this high
competitive, high culture guy. He's going to immediately establish, even though he's not going to be
coaching long, because he's obviously the oldest coach in the NFL, we all feel that. He's going
to establish a new culture, a winning culture, a competitive culture in Las Vegas. High Fitz,
you've been on this all season. Gino Smith throws his helmet on the sideline at least once a game,
at least once a game. The body language, when the safety happened, he's like throwing his arms in
the air. Like, oh my gosh, I can't believe it. Genti two weeks ago, holding penalty calls back a big
run. He's like, oh, my God, this sucks. Craig, you've been on Gentis's body language all season.
He does not want to be in Las Vegas. Tyler Lockett, who's been on the team for two weeks,
is screaming at receivers after they make mistakes. The offensive lines in shambles, the entire team,
offensively, defensively, culturally, I feel like the body language is so bad. They're yelling
at each other on every single play. Pete has come in and done the opposite of what you expected.
They're getting blown out in games that they should be competitive in. The Cowboys last night were
three and a half point favorites.
Like they are not showing up for these games.
And I hate the halftime interviews with Pete Carroll when they ask him, what's going on?
Honestly, the amount of times he says, I have no idea.
He's literally like, I'm surprised by what's happening right now.
Like, I'm not.
The entire Raiders franchise isn't?
We've seen this for 20 years.
I'm so glad you brought this up.
I think Pete Carroll's sideline, he's been buried by Mike McDaniel, but the halftime interviews,
especially last night, was so bad when he was.
like, I'm really surprised by the defense playing so poorly. And I'm like, you're the only one in the
world who thought that this would not. The Cowboys won 33 to 16, even though they bench Cady Lam and
George Pickens for the first drive. You also, I'm surprised though that you think Austin that Chip Kelly
is not to blame. Here's the thing. Colt Miller, best offensive lineman, their left tackle for a long
time has not been playing for a while now. They've had to put Stone Forsythe at left tackle. They got
DJ DeMarglaze at right tackle. And on the interior, Jackson Powers Johnson got put on the IR
last week. They had to reshuffle the deck. They got Dylan Parham, who might be one of the worst
guards in the NFL. They put Will Putnam at center and then moved Meredith to guard. Like,
the offensive line is unstartable, unplayable. Gentie, who's been, who I think is good. I think
he can be Maurice Jones Drew in the NFL. I honestly feel that way. I think he's good when
he touched the ball. I think he's going to get better. He's just going to be wearing a different
jersey in like two or three years, just like Josh Jacobs, because that's what happens.
But Gentie's good. Bowers has been either playing her or out. Mayor has also missed time.
They just traded away their best receiver.
They've turned Trey Tucker into a slot type
to have to be the primary.
The two guys they drafted,
remember the Deontay Thornton buzz?
Dude literally can't see the field.
Jack Besh, second round pick,
great story, cannot see the field.
They had to bring in Tyler Lockett.
Do you guys remember when they signed Mari Cooper?
And then after like three practices,
he's like, honestly, I'm going to retire from the NFL.
I can't handle this.
He didn't want to compete.
The offensive supporting cast,
and that doesn't even bring up,
which is not true.
Kelly's fault, my opinion, Gino Smith.
Gino Smith's been a turnover machine.
He's not seeing the field well.
He's not checking the ball down enough.
He's taking horrible sacks beyond a bad offensive line.
Chip Kelly is going to go back to college and feel completely fine about it because the
Raiders, like all these other players that go to Las Vegas or Oakland before that, at the end
of your career or you're trying to make something happen, it just doesn't really work out.
It's hard to restart your life in Las Vegas.
It's just not really easy to do.
Yeah, you can only spend a weekend in Las Vegas.
And I think Pete Carroll's learning that right now.
Four days is like, yeah, you're pushing.
I think Amari Cooper had a weekend.
It was like three or four days.
It feels like to me, like doesn't it feel like there are certain coaches who are better
when their team is good?
And I know that doesn't make any sense like on the surface, but like Pete Carroll, if the
defense is already good and there's a lot of talent, is it even better coach than the
average coach.
Like the replacement level coach, if the defense is already talented, Pete Carroll is that
much better.
But Pete Carroll has a coach with an untalented roster.
I feel like the culture guys sometimes when the roster isn't talented, like doesn't work.
It's like Phil Jackson is really good with superstars.
He knows how to mold them and work with them.
I think Steve Kerr is the same way.
But Pete Carroll, when he's just with this scrub Raiders team, starting from scratch,
with Gino Smith, who's like an X that they broke up and now they're back together, that never works.
I just think it's really hard sometimes for coaches.
There are certain coaches that make more sense with talent and more sense with scheme.
It's another small thing, but like, remember when they cut Jermaine Pratt randomly?
Arguably the best linebacker on the team?
They just cut him like three weeks ago, and he signed with the Colts immediately in like two days.
apparently that was because there was criticism
and tied the locker room of the coaching staff.
Who could have thought?
There's criticism because they don't know what they're doing.
The coaching staff has been unprepared for games
that you kind of expected Antonio Pierce
or other coaches to kind of be unprepared in.
But like the special teams is one of the worst in the league.
They're giving up big returns all the time.
Body language is terrible.
They can't get out of a rut.
It just feels like the opposite of what I expected going into the season.
I think a lot of people too.
This was everyone's sneaky playoff team going into the season,
which I hated, by the way.
But they haven't been that.
And I think in large part, Gino has sucked.
Another part, injuries.
How dare you?
I mentioned that one time.
And then I think this last piece, I think the biggest reason, again, I really do think it's
what Pete was supposed to bring maturity, competitiveness, culture has just not shown up in any way.
Okay, what do you make it was.
Yeah, I was going to say the...
TK's like, I like what they're doing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
After all that said, they're going on the writer.
But Dick is a Seahawks fan.
Pete Garrell, I feel like is the closest person in D.
I think he doesn't actually know.
It's hard to start over at 74.
Well, my reaction to this whole thing is that everything has been bad.
It's like you're blaming.
You guys just went through and blamed literally everyone.
And I'm like, yeah, pretty much everybody has been bad.
I'm looking at the differences between what Pete has done in year one with the Raiders rebuild and year one with the Seahawks rebuild.
And there's a lot of differences.
Number one, the first draft for the Seahawks was really good.
They got Earl Thomas and Russell Okung and a number of other guys that ended up being really
big time contributors.
I think that kind of helped energize the foundation or the core of the team and everything.
And then they can start building around that.
It doesn't really feel like the Raiders have a core, at least not what Pete Carroll has brought in so far,
other than like Bowers and Max Crosby and a handful of other guys.
Like Gentie's been a disappointment, whatever.
Even though I do think he will be good eventually.
He had seven yards rushing against the Cowboys yesterday.
I know.
And if you like, but like, hold on.
So the draft, the draft class for the Raiders has done nothing, right?
Like, there's been no contributors.
They can barely see the field.
Right.
They're not even getting on the field.
They can barely go on the field.
That's indicative of poor scouting, poor, like, communication between Pete Carroll and
the GM potentially or whatever.
Like, they're not getting guys that are able to, like, fit into the system or whatever.
So it's a top-down thing.
And the other thing that I remember from like the Seahawks early on is like they made all kinds of
roster change like they set the NFL record for most like roster changes during a whole season to
try and find the right guys and it doesn't really feel like they're doing much of that.
Usually in fantasy, the guys made the most waiver moves is not making the playoffs.
I think and then like the Gino thing.
I mean Matt Hasselbeck was the Seahawks quarterback the first year that Pete was in and he kind
of provided that like level of adulthood that Gino has not done whatsoever.
And so I think literally like when you're when you were just kind of going off on everything.
I'm like yeah.
It's literally everything.
No, no, I'm saying like what you're what you're illustrating is what I think I'm seeing and what's happening is like literally on every level.
It's been a failure.
I think a smidgen of credit should go to Dallas because I mean, honestly the Quinn and Williams Kenny Clark thing looked better on Monday night than anyone would want to.
Against we'll put them.
But yeah.
Overall, though, Austin, I'm just sorry that this is your team and that this is your life.
Hey, shout out Carlos Chiroboga, you know, only team in the NFL with a longer active playoff win.
Like, without, longest streak, without a playoff win is the Dolphins.
Second behind that team is the Raiders, the Oakland and Las Vegas Raiders.
You know, it's a sea of disappointment.
I think this year felt a little different because I think everyone in the offseason was like,
biggest coaching upgrade of any team in the league going from Antonio Pierce to P. Carroll.
Biggest quarterback upgrade of any team in the league going from Minchu AOC to Gino-Smith.
Both of those things have been design.
Now, people expect the defense to be better that whoever wins the offseason and just like hammer their.
Yes. Yes. The offseason winners are always the biggest losers. I actually do believe that, especially when like you're betting on the oldest coach in the NFL, which we've seen what's happened with that at the college level, the oldest college coach in the in college with Bill Belichick. And then also when you're thinking there's going to be this big quarterback upgrade, Gino Smith, 34, 35 years old. And and kind of was his best year in Seattle was his first year in Seattle. I think you've kind of seen him fall off slowly. And then this year going to Vegas.
ton of newness, a ton of new stuff, worst team,
him just completely bottoming out.
Well, look at it this way, Austin.
You know, if you're a fan of the Oakland sports world,
you're going to get a really competent baseball team in the A's in Vegas soon,
and you'll be able to root for them,
and I'm sure that'll go well too.
There you go.
Austin, thank you for sharing your pain for content.
Okay.
We're going to get to power hour here in a second.
You guys any other thoughts on Monday to football before we move on?
That was great.
Thank you, Austin.
I will say, I do think sometimes the Monday night football,
the players in that game get kind of protected from the Sunday night categories that we do.
And I do think that Ashton Genty, as a burnbook candidate, particularly for a first round pick
and fantasy, should be on the table. Like, he has had the most up and down season for a guy
that you were like guaranteed 1,300 yards, 10 touchdowns at the worst. He's averaging 50 rushing
yards a game. He had seven yards rushing on Monday, six points.
He started the season horribly.
He basically had that one big week where everybody got excited.
And since then, he has basically been like Jalen Warren.
Yeah.
I think he should be in the burn book.
I think we need an addendum, the Monday night burn book edition.
We can we can slot him in for next week.
DeKam curious, you think, I think we've joked about this in the past,
but that would we be better at projecting the next season if we just didn't actually take
anything to account from the previous season?
And I think Ashton Genty, in real life and in fantasy, all the red flags,
We just ignored because Sequin Barclay went to the Eagles
and then had like one of the best, maybe the best season ever
for a running back behind a great offensive line.
And so it's a facto no, the whole running backs coming back.
Derek County getting paid by the Ravens,
Sakewin of a good year.
We kind of just paused all the running back criticism of like spent.
And so when Jentee came by,
Jente was so cool at Boise State,
we kind of just agreed that you shouldn't do this,
but like he's awesome.
And in reality, the Raiders definitely should have took a tackle
because they went ahead
and they just took a run.
back before they had invested in the offensive line when in reality makes way more sense to do what
the lines did and you build your line for five years the Eagles built their offensive line over 10 years.
Then you had the running back when you're ready and the Raiders came in for a rebuild with
the oldest head coach and then they went ahead and had a gente and then fantasy. It's the same thing.
We kind of just ignored the Raiders being horrible and rushing. I know. But so I think with Pete Carroll,
the idea was like recreate the Marshaun Lynch dynamic where you like build an identity around
toughness in the run game and everything, but their offensive line is just so bad that it is a
non-starter almost.
Like, if you look at the top 10, top 15 draft picks at running back over the last like 20
years or whatever, it's like almost every single one of them, if they stayed healthy,
was a big time fantasy contributor.
Yes.
It was like, there's like two outliers out of that whole group.
And Genti's issue is they're not throwing to them enough and they cannot, like he's literally
97th among running backs in yards before contact for carry.
He's just getting hit in the backfield every time.
Their games are so uncompetitive sometimes that he doesn't even get like the
requisite touches to contribute.
I mean, he has games this year of six carries, six carries, 11 carries, 13 carries.
Like he just doesn't get the ball in that either.
Yeah, the volume hasn't been what you would have expected.
We expected this to be like floor Leonard Fournette where it's like whatever.
He'll touch about 300 times.
He'll muscle his way to 1,200 yards.
He'll catch the ball.
He'll punch himself into the end zone a few times.
And that like the volume isn't there half the time either, which is what's, I think, more
frustrating to me because he looks good sometimes.
When he's trying and looks energized, he looks special to me still.
We need to have a rule next year of like, how old is the combined age of the quarterback,
the head coach, and the offensive coordinator?
Because if my math is right, I believe the combined age of Gino Smith, Chip Kelly, and Pete Carroll
160.
170 years old, 175 years old, which not that there's anything wrong with that, but
Maybe that's not the best group to scheme around an old, a bad offensive line when you're a combined
170.
Yeah.
He's so worried about.
Sometimes age is, is correct, is appropriate.
You know?
I feel like we're all talking about Pete Carroll's age.
It's like just go watch their offensive line.
It's fucking atrocious.
The line is bad.
How do you, how do you scheme around that?
To take a running back instead of he should have taken an offensive line.
We probably should have took Mendo.
So now we're tossing in spy tech.
Yeah.
Spy, well, maybe he's a sleeper cell.
I don't know.
This is named SpyTech.
Oh, yeah, Austin also knows the offensive line coach for the Raiders is Pete Carroll's son.
Yeah, that's not a great look.
Who could?
That's another symptom.
We're all looking for the guy who did this.
That's another symptom of being quite old is you start hiring your son because he's fucking 40.
You're large adult son.
We got a write down for next year.
Is the head coach's son in any prominent positions on the coaching staff that matter?
The only time, yeah, right, because I guess Belich.
son didn't really matter, right?
Well, I mean, they were all over the defense.
Yeah.
But Belichick was running the defense, right?
Like, it didn't really matter that his son was also there.
But that was the problem.
Well, what do you mean?
He had to shadow run it because.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But I mean, I'm just saying the Patriots were very good, even when Belichick's son was there, right?
I don't know if he wanted to spend time with his kids or he just ran out of people who he could talk to at that point in life.
You know what I mean?
That is a good move.
That's the Adam Sandler move.
He's like, I'm just going to put the kids in the movie.
so I can hang out with them.
That's,
maybe they're,
it's a good dad move.
You know,
take your daughter to work day every day.
Jerry Jones.
Yeah.
Jerry Jones.
I actually get it.
Like I fully get it.
Jerry's Adam Sandler.
They're just Cowboys,
Cowboys fans who walk in and they're like,
can you believe we own this place?
That's crazy.
Okay.
So let's get to Power Hour.
Again,
we're going to do one last trade target episode
because it's the trade deadline for Yahoo this week.
again, the trade deadline for most leagues, it's November 22nd on Yahoo.
ESPN, I think it's the 26th of November, but just check your league.
Go to the settings button check because sometimes commissioners change it.
They don't tell anyone they forget.
So just check what time the trade deadline is.
Let people know because deadlines get stuff done.
And yeah, this is the last chance to really fix your teams or prepare for a playoff run,
getting the playoffs, whatever.
We talk through a bunch of advice on just general trading.
We don't have to go through everything, but I do think the things that hold true.
Click the blurbs of anyone you try to trade for because if they're really positive,
it's hard and if they're really negative, it's easy to get the player.
Don't crazy lowball people because it's just actively insulting and just know what you want
and work with people who need the opposite stuff.
My advice is to offer them the four worst players on your roster for their best player.
That's good.
I like that.
Because then if you add up all of their points, it might equal the points of the person
you're trying to acquire.
Right.
Then you can put it in a trade calculator and it gets close.
And then just like propose it.
And then just send them a text.
They set you something.
Here's four pieces of shit that add up to.
Like Kate Otten, Troy Franklin,
Darnel Mooney.
Will Lutz.
Will Lutz for Jonathan Taylor.
You never know.
Looks like you need the depth.
They look at the depth in your roster.
They do need depth.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So with that said,
we're going to go through trade targets.
Not all these guys are necessarily by lows.
Some of them are just,
we just people you think it should trade.
Sometimes people don't want to trade them.
But sometimes people need stuff.
I have some quibbles with a lot of your guys
I'm trying to figure out how obnoxious
I should be with saying that there's no way
they'd ever trade that person away.
Well, okay, all right, we'll say.
It depends.
We can go through something.
Yeah, but that's, I'm happy.
To me, that's just, that's a, it's a moot point.
Like, how do you know?
How do you fucking know what people are going to do?
Because I know.
It's my job to know.
I have my finger on the pulse of the nation.
You don't know, my friends.
Should we just start with the guy?
I know you're going to start with the guy.
Yeah, well, we're going to do power hour style, Tom,
Tom, Tom, every two minutes.
you're going to hear this sound.
Hi, but you start.
I kind of want to change the whole order right now.
Can I guess who you're mad at that I listed here?
Amonra?
Yeah, Monra, St. Brown for the lions.
Okay, here's why.
It's not a by-low, it's a trade.
Here's why.
All right.
Okay, sorry, this is the by-low power ranking,
and the number one is not a lot.
It's trade targets.
It depends what we call it.
It's fine.
So, fine, two minutes on the clock.
I agree.
A Monra is, look, where did I put them on the original list?
I put them eighth for that same reason.
You know why?
Amonra is the jenga piece at the bottom.
and you tap it.
And for the most part,
I don't know what that means.
The pieces on the bottom of the Jenga tower,
you tap, they're usually rock solid.
They're not going to move.
It takes two seconds to tap the block.
It takes two seconds to text the person with the Monra
and be like, would you be able to moving them?
Probably not.
It takes three seconds.
The reason.
It was like, yeah, you probably needed to explain that the first try.
But that was-
He literally said, I don't get to yourself.
No, no, I know what the Jenga piece at the bottom is,
but I didn't understand the comparison to a Mon-Ram immediately.
I thought that wasn't clear.
Oh, sorry.
That's a good point.
No, no, I'm saying it's good that he explained it.
Yes, I'm why I asked.
What I'm saying is, that was a clear connection.
It takes three seconds to text someone that little, the little dicky, are you open to trading
Amon?
Are you open to receiving offers for Amon Ra?
And if they're no, cool.
Can I, may I meet you?
At the end, so Amon Ra basically, maybe they watched that game against the Eagles and saw,
wow, the lions kind of fucking sucked and they were awful.
Jameson Williams has totally been the focal point of the offense last few weeks.
And it was really a huge ick to see Amon Ra getting two of 12 targets and diving and he couldn't
do anything. The reason I think it's worth trading for and paying at value. I think a Monro might be
like the number one receiver the rest of the season, like literally maybe first because the lines are
indoor the rest of the season. He had all these drops. The like he literally is the psychopath.
He caught 203, 202 passes every day because some other kid that was better. I'm in middle school
caught 200 a day. And so the whole thing was if he dropped one, they had to like start over. He's not a
drop guy, but if people saw him or maybe they just have a lot of injuries at running back or they just
need, or maybe they have a ton of receivers or something, and you could give them a running back.
I'm saying, I think Amonra is worth inquiring because maybe the roster, just, I'm saying, I was going to
put him last.
I agree.
They probably don't want to give him Amonra.
I was going to say, just check, just check because he's an elite player that hasn't been elite
and looked bad in prime time.
Very fair, I guess.
Amonra is currently the wide receiver six on the season.
And to me, Amonra, St. Brown, much like a janga piece at the bottom, is like the bedrock of your
fantasy team.
Like the reason why you draft him on in our St. Brown is because he is so impenetrable.
He is so rock-soled, like, every season.
He does the same thing.
He's the most dependable player on your team.
He is like the basis, the trunk of the tree.
So I'm like, there's no way.
He's like the most beloved player in fantasy every year on your team.
What if the person sixth place has him?
Then they need a running back in a tight end or something.
Again, I agree with what you're saying, Craig.
I understand most people are not going to be able to get them.
I'm just saying to pull, this is not like a representative example for the people.
There's another ringer league here.
have with, like, other members of the staff and, like, I am in that league and I somehow have
ended up with Brock Bowers and George Kittle. And I'm like, I'm probably going to just see if
like, would that person take Amon Ra for George Brock Bowers? I will do that trade. Like,
that's, you know what I mean? I might even put. This is your, this is your assignment this
week, guys, everyone listening. Go out and trade. Get out there and trade for Amon Rae St.
Brown. Send us the receipts. No, look, I think it's a great point about like the lines being
indoors. We recommended David Montgomery as a by the by the last week. I think all that stuff is
true. I just, yeah, it's going to be hard. You just. It's going to be hard.
just going to have to really give up a lot.
Yeah, so anyway.
But you're right.
You probably can't get them.
So I was going to put them last originally.
Anyway.
Sorry, you guys can quibble with all mine.
Sorry about that.
No, you're right.
You want what you can't get even more, Craig, you know?
That's true.
Yeah, look.
I'll give up anything to get on Monra right now.
Similar players that are hard to get, but I think are doable.
Number one, reset the clock here, Ron.
Yeah, two minutes on the clock.
I have the Baltimore Ravens.
So, Lamar Jackson,
kind of the same thing, Craig.
Are you going to be able to get Lamar?
Probably not, but he just had the worst fantasy performance of his entire career.
As you mentioned, he's like looked a little hobbled.
He's more acquirable now than he probably has been because the Ravens, he's been hurt.
He's not looked good.
I kind of lean toward.
I think Lamar will be fine and he just played the Browns.
You're trying to acquire him from me in the Ringer League.
I am.
I kind of wanted to see if at the end of this, we would just negotiate the trade life.
I'm down.
I'm down.
Talk about it.
Okay, we can talk about that.
But I think to your point, Derek Henry is another guy that we've been talking about as a acquisition target.
But again, I think it's, it all comes down to me, the Ravens schedule where it's been,
the Browns are a really tough defense, but now it's Jets, Bengals, Steelers, Bengals.
That's an incredible, that's an incredible stretch.
Now, Amon Ra, Lamar, Derek Kennedy, you're going to be able to get these guys,
maybe not.
The reason I had this first, Zay Flowers, the epitome of a Glansberg.
I don't think we talked to Zay Flowers once this season.
Well, I think he hasn't scored a touchdown since week one, right?
DK, what's your favorite Zayflowers play this year?
He's been fine, though.
He's actually looked good, but he's like one of those players that every time he touches the ball. I'm like, oh, yeah, he's good.
He didn't score touchdowns. It's the only problem. He just doesn't get at the end zone.
Zayflowers has not had 12 points since week one. Zayflowers has not had 80 yards since week one. I don't think, I think
Zay Flowers, again, are you going to be able to get them on Rob? Probably not. Zayflowers,
I'd be shocked. Zayflowers was untouchable for whoever has him. No, Henry's getable. Totally getable.
Jets, bengles, Steelers, Steeleers, Bengles. There's going to be a lot of Ravens points in those games.
I agree. Zayflowers is not necessarily a red zone guy for them, but I just think Zay Flowers is a good example
receiver that like is super acquireable looks feels kind of the same as all the other ones but could
actually be a difference maker for you down the stretch if you need to go get a receiver if you don't
have a wide receiver too he's a good target i agree i agree this is a good flex he's an inquirable
normal run-of-the-mill flex and i think he just has a good chance to be pretty like a weirdly
top 15 guy he's been really good like like lamar finding him over the middle a lot of broken plays he
always pops up for like a 25-yard catch i i agree running he's he's really good does a lot of run after the
stuff.
Yeah.
It's explosive.
Just never scores touchdowns.
Well, it's hard.
It's like Henry Lamar and Mark Andrews and even like likely and
Rashad Bateman are like all people you would look at before Zayflowers inside
the time.
Number two, which, well, it's third here, but my original ranking number two, trade
targets, DK.
You had Crystal Lave, the receiver for the same.
Crystal Lave feels like a quarter or a receiver that is probably on a lot of eighth place
teams this year.
So in that respect, I think he's getable.
If you're in a keeper league, send over somebody that might be a good keeper for next year,
whatever the case may be.
Chris Olave has the sixth highest target rate in the NFL this year, 29%.
Now, clearly he's on a bad offense with bad quarterbacks, and so that has been holding
down his overall ceiling.
But with Shaheed gone, Rashid Shaheed is now gone.
Olavi is the clear cut number one.
Like, Shaheed had a pretty good target rate for most of the season.
So Alave is going to see his target rate probably even increased as the season goes on.
Tyler Shuck actually was pretty good.
So maybe there's some chance that he could build on that,
have a little confidence going into the last part of the season.
And importantly,
according to PFF,
New Orleans has the sixth best strength of schedule during the fantasy playoffs.
So during the weeks 15, 16, 17, or 14, 15, 17, or 14, 15, 17.
When did the playoffs start again?
Because I don't change it.
15.
15.
Sorry, I messed it up.
But regardless, it's panthers.
Well, 14 is the playoffs.
It's like you get in a win and in situation.
14 kind of becomes the playoffs sometimes.
Right.
Panthers, Jets, Titans, Falcons those weeks.
So, like, obviously pretty juicy matchups there.
I just think strength of schedule, the trajectory of Tyler Shuck,
hopefully he continues to get a little bit better as the season goes on.
And then, of course, just Olave is just getting so much volume.
I don't think he's necessarily going to be a Y receiver one the rest of the year,
but a good rock solid number two, if you're looking for that type of guy to, like,
really strengthen your playoff squad.
I think he makes a lot of sense.
Alave is probably the number one Glansberg
at the wide receiver position
every year
for a guy who can just like consistently put up
1200 yards and nine touchdowns and is good
if Alave was on a different team
if Alave was just on the Patriots
him and Drake May would be a very famous one to
that's a great yeah because I always felt
Alavi's deep ball tracking is really good
and just hasn't had a quarterback who can do that
I mean even Derek Carr I mean Derek Carr's deep ball comes and goes
but I mean when it's good it's good
I mean Alave looked awesome I totally agree
I like that one, DK.
Also, I think Alave is just also just is a, like you can figure out a trade for Alave.
He's easier to acquire people.
Number three here, I'm interested in this one.
Craig, you have Quinn Sean Judkins the running back for the Browns.
Yeah.
So Quinn Sean Jenkins started out the season really, really hot, got a little banged up.
And now the last month, he's been, he's been pretty bad.
I mean, the Browns have been a disaster.
And he had last three weeks, five points, nine points, three points.
he's not catching passes.
So basically for a month in this period
where it's like the teams are separating themselves
in your fantasy league, right?
Like you're kind of at the point now
where you know if your team is going to make it or not.
And the last month,
Quinchan has been terrible for you.
And if you look at their schedule,
they have the six easiest remaining schedule in the league.
They play the Raiders, the Niners,
the Titans, and the Bills.
And I personally think Quinchan looks fantastic still.
Like his game against Baltimore last week
was the numbers did not look ready at five points.
But if you actually watch the game,
you watch him. I still think he's really good. I still think the Brown's line matchup dependent is
able to give him a little bit of wiggle room. And I think this is going to be like a rest of the
season. Rookie he continues to get his sea legs and could be one of the better running backs to finish
the season. And like he'll look a little bit more like we saw earlier. I just think it's been a bad
three, four week stretch for him. But I think Quinn Sean is genuinely one of the better running backs
in the league already. He looks fantastic to me. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if you look at his,
the number of opportunities he's getting in the offense too, it's insane. Like,
you know, 19 opportunities, 25 opportunities, 12, 25, 13.
Like, he's getting up into the 20s quite often in terms of carries and targets.
And so, I mean, he's, yeah, the numbers are going to come when they start facing some like lighter defenses,
Raiders, 49ers, Titans, Bears, Bills, Steelers on deck.
So, yeah, I really like this one.
And Juckins is one of those guys who are just clear.
He's good.
He seems like a fringe top 10 running back.
Like, not even fantasy.
Just real life.
I agree.
The top five, whatever order you want to put him.
I don't care.
The top five is like Jonathan Taylor,
Christian McCaffrey, Syquan,
Bajon, Jamir Gibbs as the top five.
I don't care of the order.
And then there's like Derek Henry, Devon A.
Jahn, we're obviously very different players.
Josh Jacobs.
And then it's like, is Judkins eighth or ninth or, I mean, maybe he's 12th.
But I'm like, he really seems incredible so far.
That's, yeah.
So nature of the running back position,
it's like, it actually skews really young
just because it's so hard to stay explosive.
It can change so quick.
Like you can see a rookie come in and you're like,
oh, this guy has the juice.
Yeah.
And Bills and Rams fans are probably like James Cook, Karen Williams, and you're right. I'm sorry.
Yeah, but like, James Cook.
Jenkins is probably 10th.
He's probably like if Quinn John was on the bills or on the Rams, I, you know, I think he'd be fucking awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, I mean, for the last five weeks, Judkins, single digit points.
So people are probably quite frustrated with him right now.
Random question, because I know that we talked about this during the draft time, but I remember it was a little bit of a controversy.
Not a lot, but that the Browns took Judkins over Travion.
Yes.
Do you, how do you feel about that now?
I still feel like it's probably the right move for the Browns who have taken Judkins over Travion.
I think Judkins is, I still think he's better than Travion.
Yeah.
I had Travion ranked a little bit higher than Judkins, mainly because of the passing game stuff.
But, but yeah, I mean, Judkins has been even better than I thought he'd be.
Well, they both serve the right purpose for their team.
It feels like what Trevion brings opposite Romandre works and then what Quinchon brings opposite Dylan Samson,
who I think is also a good rookie also works.
Yeah.
I think Judkins and Ramondre would have been redundant.
from New England and Ramandria, Trevion and Henderson together make a lot of sense.
And similarly, I think the Browns kind of looked at it as they were losing Nick Chubb.
Yeah.
Junkins, I mean, with the quarterback situation, the Browns really needed, like, an early down
guy to be able to be what he's been.
So I think it made sense for the teams.
Imagine if the Raiders would have taken offensive tackle and then Judkins, like, in the
second round.
This is, this was the Sequon thing.
The Giants took Sequan and then Will Hernandez a guard and they could have traded back
added three seconds and taking Quentin Nelson and Nick Chubb.
But, you know, it's fucking fine.
What a good shot at.
The only Dave, and then later, the only trade back, Dave Gettleman ever did in his career was for Cadillian, so it's fine.
I'm over it.
Number four here, Craig, you have Ricky Peresol, the receiver for the 49ers.
Yeah, it's been a trade target.
It's been seven weeks since Ricky Pearsall has done anything for you.
He finally came back from his knee injury.
That lasted way longer than I think everybody expected.
And he had one catch for zero yards.
I think the underlying, I think like my general advice with this is like, don't panic.
Ricky Pearsall is really good.
Looked awesome.
The first month of the season was averaging like 80 yards a game.
And just like all of the offseason projections, he was one of it on everybody's love list to start the season.
And like it immediately bore out.
You kind of immediately were like, oh, the stuff we saw at the end of last year,
the like a lot of the guys like Matt Harmon were talking about how his route running, his ability versus man and zone.
Like it's going to work.
And they were all right.
and he is really good.
But he's been out for so long.
People are probably very fresh-ed with him.
They've had to make do-find other wide receivers that have worked.
They probably started him last week.
He got them zero points.
The Niners, Purdy is back.
It looks good.
The Niners have the third easiest schedule
for wide receivers for the rest of the season.
And Pearsall was running a bunch of routes.
He just kind of didn't get targeted.
It's just sort of like high variance thing.
He's shaking off the rust.
Yeah.
So I think if you can get him,
it might go against a little bit what I'm saying.
I mean, Ricky Pearsall is very good.
I'm sure people who've held on to him want to play him.
But.
I would say, Craig, I would say you're probably right.
Like a lot of people would be like I held on to him this long.
But after that, that dud of a game, I feel like there's probably a little bit of a confidence issue with people who have Pearsall.
Like, how confident are you that he's going to be what you're thinking about if you should start him next week?
Yeah.
It's not automatic.
That's exactly how I am in my leagues.
I'm like, man, do I start him or do I start like fucking Joanne Johnson or something who's just been getting six targets a game?
It's like that kind of thing.
And so I think he could be had for really not that much, just like a more sure thing.
And I think Pearsall obviously gives you a lot more upside.
He has the upside to be, you know, high end Y receiver two or something down the stretch.
And that's obviously really valuable.
Would you rather have Peersall than A.J. Brown rest of the season?
Uh, that's, I have to think about it.
I think probably not, but I have to think about it.
Pear Sol is probably going to outscore E.
Brown the rest of the season.
Yeah.
But it's hard to do that trade.
I think that to your point, I think you nailed it, Craig, that people, when you wait
for someone for a long, like if you draft someone who's injured or suspended in the beginning
of the year and then you kind of knock on the door right when they come back, you're mad.
Like Rishi Rice, you're like, I waited six weeks.
Now it's not the time.
But when someone's hurt in the middle of the year, I do think it's different.
So I, and when they come, and then when they come back and they have the one catch for
three yards, I think you're right.
It's a shame that the, if the trade deadline were a week from now and he had like another
mediocre game, then you could really get him.
Yeah, he's incredible, though.
Speaking of a week, though, because Brock Purdy's back, Dicke, you also had Brock Purdy on this
list.
Yeah, this is kind of like along the exact same lines.
It's a schedule thing.
And we talked about this before the year, like the 49ers have an incredibly easy schedule.
And I feel like pretty, he's getting healthy at the right time.
Obviously, he's getting some of his past catchers back.
Kittle looks like he's full, fully back from his injury in the beginning of year.
Pierceall is starting to ramp back up.
I mean, I'm not really counting on this,
but there is a chance that you could be back at some point
in the next couple of weeks.
Pretty just in his career has pretty consistently
been a top 10 quarterback in fantasy.
And it's because he plays in the Shanahan offense.
He is a dynamic downfield thrower,
and he runs a lot.
Right now he's not running a lot.
But as he starts to get more healthy,
as he starts to heal up a little bit more in theory,
he could start scrambling more.
He didn't scramble at all in this last game.
But again, like Craig said,
The 49ers have a very easy schedule going forward.
This week, it's the Panthers at the Browns.
And then after the buy, they go Titans, Colts, Bears, Seahawks.
So there's obviously a couple of good, a couple tougher matchups.
Like, obviously, the Seahawks is a good defense.
But I think there's a lot of opportunity for volume here with these, with these matchups.
The 49ers are like, I mean, they're a borderline playoff team.
So they're going to be playing for it.
They're not going to, like, you don't have to fear them kind of shutting things down.
I just like a lot of the thing.
I like a lot of the things.
49ers during the stretch run of the season.
It's going to be very interesting in the NFC West because I think everybody has the
Niners below the Rams and Seahawks and yet the nineers schedule is really easy.
They're still in this man, even though they've lost so many of their key guys.
Yeah, and I feel like anytime you have a Shanahan offense, it's like that's enough to
kind of like make you a competitor.
I agree though.
Every year Brock Purdy is like the QB 8 to 10 every time he's playing, every time he's on the
field.
And I feel like the confidence level is probably not.
super high in him right now. He did have a pretty good game, obviously, this first one back,
but, you know, again, it is just a matter of find someone that needs, you know, a receiver or
tight end or running back or whatever. And, like, there's streamable quarterbacks out there.
It's also been a decent quarterback waiver wire year. And so Herdy has played two games this
season before last week. Yeah. And so people have had to figure it out. Like, guys like, like,
like, they might have Jackson Dart on their team now. Flacco has been really good. Like,
there are a lot of quarterbacks that have kind of coming that you've been able to to
kind of patch things up with.
Yeah, Mario.
Pereta.
So there's a chance now that somebody's like,
I've heard he's actually my backup now
because I've Jackson Dart.
Yeah, exactly.
Which is exactly my case in the Ringer Fantasy League.
We'll get to that.
Number six here, DK, you have Woody Marks the running back
from Houston.
Yeah, this is just a, you know, obviously,
I don't think anyone, and I can already
hear in like, Hyphitz's brain, like, I'm not
trading for any Texans running backs.
But that's kind of exactly what you're
going for in terms of, like, people are probably not
super confident in this Texans offense.
Davis Mills is still playing this week.
CJ Stroud doesn't do back to the next week.
But Woody Marks is quietly,
completely taken over the Houston backfield.
So if you're looking for an RB2,
this is not like I'm saying he's going to be a league winner type down the stretch.
This is more like just a get some good depth guy who's going to get a lot of volume down the stretch.
I think he's a really good pass catcher.
So he's pretty game script.
Like he's game script agnostic.
He's going to be involved in the game script,
whether they're losing or winning or whatever because he's a good pass catch or two.
But, you know, over the last couple of weeks, last two weeks, he has gotten 71% of the rush
attempts and he's ran 44 routes versus 13 for Chubb.
So he's absolutely dominating this backfield now.
And in the last couple of weeks, he's the 14th overall running back in fantasy,
expected fantasy points according to fantasy points.com.
So this is, now it's the time to do it because they play the bills this week who have given up a ton of points to running backs.
So if you want to get ahead of this kind of like Woody Marks breakout, he had a bunch of carries this last week.
He touched ball 19 times.
He didn't really do a whole lot.
But I think now is the time to go get him.
And he gives you just like that floor of a guy who's getting a lot of volume down the stretch.
I could say it.
I don't want to trade for any Texans running backs.
Bang.
No, I'm actually.
I like this.
I like this because I think Woody Marks is a good example of a player.
Probably just like on someone's bench and maybe they're not playing him.
Or if they are playing him, they're like, I could probably do better than this.
And if you need a running back, yeah.
This is like a Zayflowers-esque guy where it's like, you could probably get Woody Marks if you really want to.
The problem with trading for Woody Marks is there's the IKEA effect, you know, furniture that people build, people are more attached to.
The problem is someone probably drafted Woody Marks late.
That's really good.
No, it's true.
They probably picked him up on the waivers.
Either way, though.
The problem is when you add someone on waivers, you actually get attached to them, like a rationalist.
It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, I think I'm kind of the opposite.
I kind of feel like I'm the opposite.
I'm like, if I pick a guy up on waivers and he turns into something good, I'm like,
I gotta make money off of this.
It's like Hypatts his cat.
They, you know, saved him.
They, uh, what, we're gonna make, what are they?
You adopted him?
Rescue him.
Rescue him from an alley.
Now he's priceless.
Rescute is so just like, there's, there's a lot of, uh, arrogance there, I feel like.
What if he was having a great life before that?
No, he was, he was, he, he was.
But to great, right.
But to correct.
But to give you.
You fucking see you.
He was living on the street.
What are you talking about?
He rescued me.
He rescued me is that you're a life.
Every cat.
The cat I know has like four houses.
They're like the boomers.
God, they have all these mortgages.
We can't even get in the market.
They collect,
they set up franchises.
They collect families that feed them.
They're like these women that like sleep with NBA players.
This is like every,
I got guys in every city.
It's true.
You think the NBA players do well.
They're more like the NBA players, Craig.
Come up,
right.
You just work here.
They go to different towns every night.
Yeah,
maybe that's a good Zaggdekin's rescuing pets.
They don't want to be rescuing pets.
They were doing fine.
No.
They love independence.
Animals began on the street. Don't force me to live here.
You know what I mean? Like they started out on the street. We domesticated it. Did they ask for that? No.
Well, that's the, no, humans domesticated dogs, cats domesticated people.
Like cats trained people. That's very true.
I'm just kidding. You definitely rescued Sam.
No, you're right. No, you're right. That was good to apologize in case Jackie listens to this.
Sam's a great cat.
No, he enjoyed eating garbage on the street. That was a beautiful time.
I actually, I rescued my dog from he, they, they,
They found him and the entire litter living in a ditch in Texas.
And there had been like evidence they were like eating rocks and stuff.
I'm like Jesus Christ.
George?
Yeah, George.
Eating rocks.
No one eats his own shit.
That's probably how he survived.
I know.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, haunted past.
It's all deadly.
I've been thinking more and more about like.
Oh my God.
Fantasy rewatchables we should also do a category for like the craziest thing.
I'm able to set this season.
and I think D.Ks has to be my dog is more athletic than Secretariat.
I think that has to be DKs.
That's the most inflated,
so you're confidence in your fucking pet.
I swear everybody,
their animals is like God's gift to the world.
Fucking wild.
By the way,
we should do on the fantasy rewatchables,
we should do a category about like a rescue category
for like the waiver wire person that you added that you'd feel the best about.
It's like they never give up.
Yeah, it's like they actually rescued me.
Yeah, like I kind of feel like I added Troy Franklin week two.
Didn't think anything of it now that Troy Franklin's a contributing member of my team and I love him. We'll see I think Alec Pierce's prop might take that one home
Yeah, we'll have to see we'll bring that in okay next well
The last one here Craig you have D. K Metcalf receiving for the Steelers I'm glad you put him at the bottom because I I feel the least strongly about him
Here's the what I'll say is is that I still trust D.K. McCaff as a touchdown scoring player and that's how he's made as
bones this season with the Steelers. He is sixth in red zone targets over the last month,
and yet he has zero touchdowns in his last three games. I'm betting on that to switch a little bit,
partially because the Steelers have the number one easiest remaining schedule for wide receivers.
The three-week touchdown drought for him is the longest of the season for him.
I don't really, Mason Rudolph might even help a little bit for DK Metcalf, but I think either way.
I just like the schedule. I'm betting on a little bit of touchdown regression.
He's had a great target share in the last two weeks, 25, 28%.
I'm just kind of like no other receivers on the Steelers are good at all.
So that's kind of where I'm out with that.
But I'm glad you, this is last because I feel the same way.
I think it's, this is a by low.
Like this is, my joke that you guys hate is that there has to be you and value.
And I think that this is something where people are like, oh, you want T.K. McCaffee has not had eight fantasy points for the last five weeks.
And then now you're going to open the blurb and you're going to see Mason Rudolph might play.
And you're like, yeah, I should get rid of this guy, which is hard to find for people.
Lord talented. And yeah, I do think it's worth taking the plunge. I do think Mason Ridolf will still
be able to get him the ball. And yeah, like having the bears and bills coming out. Like I think,
I think this makes sense and it's a worthy risk. Yeah, it's like, look, I don't think he's going to be
catching like 10 passes for 140 yards out of nowhere. But I do think that you could like, he probably
will be better than he's been. Given the history of the show, we should bet on him and have exactly
10 patches for 140 yards. Okay. I want to run by a few other people. Well, one, just to check in on
people we talked about last week and if we still feel that way. And also, first of all, just the
Broncos, because we probably should mention R.J. Harvard, the running back and Corleton Sutton
as trade targets just because they're on by. And if you're going to make the playoffs and the
person who has them might not, maybe they don't want to get rid of them. But I don't even know.
It's really just in theory you should buy the dip because the Broncos, but are playing weirdly on
offense. And maybe you just want to, but it's also weird to endorse them because D.K.
always points out, Sean Payton is a fantasy.
Yeah, I have a philosophical disagreement with doing anything with the Broncos.
But if you were inclined to trade for a Bronco, R.J. Harvey is a great example of someone to trade
for because J.K. Dobbins is on IR. RJ Harvey came in and got like the vast majority of the workload
in the game, but didn't really actually score that many points. So perfect trade target,
because I think he's going to continue to get a pretty good workload and will score more points
given those opportunities. However, I don't, I don't feel great about that first thing. He's
going to continue to get a lot of volume. Excuse me. I almost started crying in there.
Even just mentioning Sean Payton has him like physically ill.
Gets me emotional. Yeah, D.K. texted us as we were preparing this episode. He said,
if anyone wants to do RJ Harvey, I think he makes sense. I just won't do a Bronco.
Dede. D.K. is not doing it.
He does. He does have principles.
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All right.
Recapping people we talked about from last week.
Jameson Williams for the Lions Dickey liked him.
That was a good call because he did great.
So far.
That window is probably over because Jameson Williams has kind of played too well
to actually be a trade target anymore.
David Montgomery would talk to.
I think David Montgomery still is a good trade target as well.
Just everything you said last week, Craig,
like some of the Gibbs stuff will probably float to Montgomery,
but he hasn't played that well.
Rashid Shaheed, I still think is an excellent trade target.
He hasn't done a ton.
I think he's going to be a larger part of that offense.
There's always a worry that he's more of an issue, like in real life, better impact player.
But I think Rashid Jehid is close to someone might cut that, like I think if you're desperate
and you just want to give up like a very small, like a bench asset, someone you're not going
to play for someone else that they're not playing.
I think Rashid Jihad.
He gives me the second person in a trade offer, right?
Yeah, I think he's a good throw in that could pop.
Omerian Hampton for the Chargers.
So someone's like really win now and the charges are on bio him.
It's on IR.
Trey Benson, same thing.
Still on IR if someone has them and they're not going to definitely make the playoffs.
I don't think they want them.
And then lastly, the question before we move on is just AJ Brown, would you do it or not?
Would you acquire AJ Brown?
Do you think he's not healthy and that every year he is his knee drained and the knee?
Do you think physically he's a different stage of his career or do you think this is just him being pissy?
I think it's pissy and the offense went back to being what it was.
And of course, all that stuff.
I'm saying, like, how much of this is like Petulow and he's pissed and all that stuff?
Or do you think A.J. Brown is not as good as he used to be in any way.
If it, I'm curious who you think, T.K., I think if AJ Brown's dropped off, I would lean toward it's not a physical drop off.
It's like a mental drop off.
I think he's checked out.
Yeah.
And it's almost more, honestly, it's more like an NBA situation where sometimes players who are really talented suck because they're unhappy.
And then, like, Jimmy Butler went to the Warriors and suddenly was.
incredible. God, fuck,
Warriors Jark.
Gotta put a dollar in there.
But it's been a NBA situation.
Steph, dude,
Steph's been cooking lately.
Are you kidding me?
Matt,
I brought this up.
I tweeted that he's top five all time now.
Everybody was mad,
but whatever.
I fucking believe that in my soul.
Is that controversial,
though?
Because he has so many titles.
I said he's maybe top three,
like when it's all said and done.
What he's doing at 37 is fucking absurd
for a 6-2185 guard.
I'm just saying.
Craig says the numbers
because he's 62185.
No,
I'm saying because that's very small and usually those guys do not age well in the NBA.
Steph looks exactly the same as he did five years ago. It's unbelievable.
He's the only guy who can for Victor Wembeñama and he's the shortest guy on the court.
He's the only one who can handle him.
I mean, I don't know. I feel like it's...
Anyway.
Steph's up there, I'd say.
Also, the whole shoe thing, you guys following that?
Yeah, what's going on with this?
So Nico, the Mavs GM who was fired, botched the Under Armored deal back with like 10 years.
go for Nike. He got Steph Curry to Under Armist instead of Nike. And then what's going on? He's going
back to Nike now? I don't know if that, no, it's not confirmed where he's going. He's just leaving
Under Armour, which is a big deal. I mean, you guys, usually when you have somebody like that,
you hold on to them and give them, you know, it's impossible for those guys to leave. Steph is leaving.
I think a lot of people think he's not going to go anywhere and he's going to have his own brand or
do something like that. But yeah, he's a free agent shoe. Steph has a Gatorade commercial or something
where he's like, Powerade or used to Gatorade or something. And he's like, it must take a lot for me to
switch. And I'm like, is this a drink commercial making fun of the fact that he's switching shoes?
Oh, I didn't even see that. Which I think it is. And his first game after the announcement,
he wore Kobe's, which are Nike. Which, this is an off topic, or this is a random question,
but if you are an NBA player, what brand would you most want to be sponsored by? Nike.
Because you think that they have the best equipment?
I think a combination of like, I don't know. Marketing power.
Just like, I mean, I can't imagine.
It's not Under Armour.
I can't imagine picking a different company unless they were offered you up.
Well, like Otani.
I like New Balance a lot, actually.
New Balance.
I feel like New Balance is cool.
Yeah.
I like New Balance too.
I'd probably be them.
Nike's like the legacy always been there,
always going to be there.
And New Balance is like the guys who are trying to, you know, break in a little bit.
I think that's kind of like the root of my,
my question is like,
Nike is just always like everybody's fucking Nike.
You know what I mean?
Like it's almost like trait at this point.
Oh yeah, you're on Nike.
Cool.
Um, so I don't know.
Like Adidas, would that be cool or are they just kind of lame?
I got to tell you, I don't think I'd make a startup shoe company cool.
I think I would cement how they're kind of lame.
I really want someone to sponsor.
Me and my fucking flat potato feet, my 4E with.
Brooks.
Who's the best flat foot shoot?
I actually would love to get sponsored by Nike if they would just make Jordans and 4E.
Like that would be, but really until they make fucking air Jordans and 4E with.
Nike, if you're listening, if you're like any pairs lying around that like someone didn't take, like I'll take them.
But until then, yeah, I think Brooks is going to have to make my shoes.
Hyvitz, you could wear all the, like, custom shoes that they make for the CEOs of all these companies as gifts that they don't want.
I actually was thinking, I think you should find, we should have shoe buddy people in life.
It should be, instead of feet picks, we need to share shoe sizes and have like shoe exchanges with people like, you know what I mean?
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Anyway, we can move on.
Okay, ringer fantasy football league update.
Frank Cod, Craig.
Craig's having something happened to Craig's team this week I've never seen or come the coming week
which is he is in a three receiver league is no receivers you can play correct uh colon sitin on by
lad mccaki on by drake london's going to be out for a month and it's really not great
i lost tucker craft a few weeks ago ashton gentie's a disaster Lamar was out for a month
it's been really hard we've been hanging on by a goddamn threat so bill who was in last place or
tied for last month and fucking toothpicks and not great
I might have to trade Lamar for like three players just to stay alive.
Bill was in last place or tied for a long time.
Bill actually now has more points than Craig.
And honestly, if Bill wins this week and Craig loses,
Bill actually might make the playoffs.
Bill can win out and make the playoffs.
Oh, for sure he can.
I mean, he's four and seven on five and six.
What's nice about this league is there's only 10 people in it and six are making the playoffs.
So it's like everybody, I would say maybe other than Chris Ryan, who's three and eight,
everybody has a shot to make the playoffs still.
Everyone does have a shot.
Even Chris does in theory.
I'm in first.
D.K., you're in second.
Currently right now, if things held, we would have the first two spots in the buys.
Salvo's, Salvo could catch either of us.
Sal's in third.
So we can move to emails.
Wait, who's in fifth, though?
Bangkok, Craig.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hang it on.
Hang it on.
So what that said, we'll go to emails, but first, how about we'll cut this if it's boring?
But Craig, do you want to negotiate a trade right now?
You want to try?
Oh, God.
Two hours later.
I don't think we should put that in the show.
Okay, Dika, you're probably right.
We probably should not put that in the show.
That was really boring.
Anyway, we'll move on.
No one cares about your leagues.
Okay.
Fantasy court.
Definitely don't tell anyone about this thing that you're doing.
I don't really want to be handcuffed.
The definition of an object is a material thing that can be seen and touched.
Where did a Richter get this music?
I don't know.
Definitely some, like, licensed music bank, royalty-free.
All right.
This case-
Definitely royalty-free.
Hopefully.
Just like Tom Tom.
Is this like Jack?
Jaybone.
Jackie.
For breakfast, I had a croissant with sausage egg and cheese and a canned
orange Gatorade.
Canned.
I skipped over this.
Caned Gatorade?
He must have been bottled, right?
There's no cans of Gatorade.
Sausage and cheese on a croissant.
You don't write canned Gatorade unless it's in a can.
Have you guys ever seen Gatorade?
I don't know Gatorade came in a can.
I'm looking at it.
Apparently, I do see some cans here.
They're these, I see.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They appear to do this.
Well, it's weird because what I kind of want one.
Gatorade's not carbonated.
I feel like there's very few uncarbonated drinks in cans.
There are some.
Not often.
I don't know.
Yeah, they got water now in cans.
There's like juice in cans sometimes.
I've just never seen one.
All right, candor orange Gatorade.
I guess like V8 is in cans.
Gatorade, though, is like ice coffee.
Half more than half the fun as you get to see the color from the outside.
Yeah.
Also, I like that he specified the container the Gatorade was in.
Yeah, wow.
Well, maybe he must have been proud about the fact that it was a can.
Also, a sausage, egg and cheese on a croissant is, that's a, that's a decadent breakfast.
It's probably Jimmy Dean.
But if it's not, if you're ever, I mean, D.K. wasn't ready for this.
But you're at a, like, you're at a real deli and you can get bacon and again cheese and a croissant.
It doesn't rip.
You can get it like riddled.
You get the grill marks, the croissant.
I've never had that.
It's, oh, it's a treat.
Jack says, my brother married his wife last year,
and her family previously had their own little fantasy league
that my brother was in, and when they got married,
they opened it up to include my parents, my girlfriend, myself.
So now it's just like the two sides of the family
from the brothers, the brother's family
and the brother's wife's family, or in one fantasy league.
And he says, I'm writing this email at 6 a.m.
Mountain Time, because I live in Denver,
because in the middle of the night, middle of the night,
a trade went down between my father-in-law and my mother-in-law,
Oh.
The father, it's funny, he wrote, my father-in-law is 6-5, and I'm like, oh, six-foot-five,
don't fight him.
No, that's his record.
Huge difference.
The father-in-law's 5-6-5.
I was like, he's very scary man.
Well, he wrote that the mother-in-law is 7-4, which I assume these are records.
Wow.
But anyway.
So it turns out at 5 a.m. Eastern, which is their time zone.
The mother-in-law traded Darius Slayton and Bam-Night to the father-in-law for Javante
Williamson Stefan Diggs, which is obviously.
Obviously, lopsided.
Father-in-law plays three of the toughest teams remaining for the next three weeks, so he might not make the playoffs.
This is just braggy rights.
There's no money.
I won last year.
I live in Denver.
I will still have to pay $30 just to ship this trophy to the East Coast.
Oh, if she wins.
My question, is this trade so egregious that it violates the sanctity of the league, even it's a free league?
Our two families, not that close.
Is it worth bringing this trade up before and potentially starting drama before a busy holiday season?
No.
The answer's no.
Right.
You can accuse the father-in-law of sending Chivante and dags for slaying his hands trying
and even play.
I like him saying, I like that brief line in there that said, our family's not that close.
This is like, you know how they call like lawyers and judges like counselor?
I don't think, I guess not judges, but like lawyers like counsel.
I feel like we're doing fantasy counseling more than fantasy court.
Well, also, to be clear, he didn't mean they're not close.
He said we're not incredibly close, as in like they're not going to do.
the holidays together.
Oh, because they're not close in proximity.
They live in a distant parts.
Yeah, sorry, sorry.
I feel like if they're listening to this,
they're gonna be like, what the fuck?
Oh, no, no.
I think he meant they're not close.
Like, he's in Denver and they're in the east.
Like, I don't think.
Oh, I thought he was saying like they weren't that close as a family.
He said, we get along, but we do separate holidays.
Got, I got it.
That's funny if their families listen to this.
They're just like, wow, fucking Jack,
throwing us under the bus.
This is like small claims court.
Yeah.
Um, I just like the idea of like the father-in-law and the mother-in-law,
like doing a trade.
They're clearly, I'm going to call them out of this.
I would venture to guess that there's even a chance that the wife doesn't even know
the trade occurred and that the husband grabbed both phones.
The father-in-law just did it himself at 5 a.m. before the wife was up. That's, that's,
that crossed my mind. I think again, got to warn people that this doesn't fly, but then probably
don't reverse it. They can't charge. Just to save the holidays. They can't charge a husband and a wife
for the same crime.
the worst fucking attorneys.
Yeah, Jack, I would just eat this one.
Sorry, bud.
Once again, to be clear, no, no pot, no money involved.
Oh my God.
Family.
Yeah, have to pay for the fucking shipping.
Family for what comes first, guys.
Remember what comes first.
Usually the guy.
Dinner?
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Let's do some emails here.
Emails.
Just following up the thread of just older people, just not knowing terms and saying things wrong.
I want to start one here from Molly.
Molly.
Just following up on the narrative of all these announcers don't know what hooking up means.
So Molly writes,
last night my family had a few 19-year-old missionaries from our church over for dinner.
And my 74-year-old mom stopped by and joined us.
And in the course of the conversation,
my mom starts talking about one of my daughter's friends who is 16 years old.
And my mom says,
Sarah needs to hook up with the missionaries.
Yeah.
And Molly writes,
I was sitting across the table
from three horrified missionary boys
as their expression went from horror
to embarrassment
and then a desperate attempt
to a desperate attempt
to not laugh in her face.
Yeah, man.
The hookup thing is an epidemic.
Yeah.
Hook up with the missionaries.
It's a huge problem.
And I don't know how to solve it.
I know.
You guys should hook up.
Hook up.
up. This one also is from Christian. Seabone. Chrisie. Christian writes, I worked for a small company
owned by a husband and wife in their 70s. Let's just call them Chuck and Maria own this company.
And recently, we had an all-hands-on-deck meeting because someone called and complained to Maria
about an order that was not delivered, like a client called and complained to Maria. And Chuck was
extremely upset and he called us all in for this big meeting about what the issue was.
And I think Chuck, it seems that he was reaching for the term shootout, you know, like you yell at
someone you get shoot out.
I know where this is going.
But instead, Chuck begins this meeting, this very serious all hands meeting and says, and I
quote, Maria was eaten out by a woman yesterday.
Oh, God.
She ate her out for a good 10 minutes.
Oh.
And Maria said she had never been eaten out like that before in her life.
Good Lord.
It's like from a movie
It is
It's a nightmare
So
Him repeating it over and over
Is borderline stripped in
Yes
Set it three times
Every single time
It made it even funnier
Never been eating out like this before
In her life
Solid 10 minutes
Also I gotta be honest
That phrase in general is
I'm not even sure
We should be using it
Like yeah
It's
Yeah we have to retire
We have to retire
We I think we might
as a society have to retire that phrase.
Way too vivid.
Yeah.
Dude, he continues.
He's like, so of course,
at that point, nobody could say anything.
How many people are on his call is what I want to know.
He's like, I'm in the front row just trying to keep it together
out of fear of being fired.
And the guy behind him could not keep it together.
So he starts laughing.
And then he's called into the office and like almost was going to be fired
for not taking this serious.
and he has to explain to the owners what they said.
And then he says, they were so embarrassed,
nobody's talked about it since.
Yeah, look, that's outrageous.
Oh, God.
I got a good one from my friend today.
Please.
He texted me.
My friend Chase.
C-bone.
Yeah.
So Chase has a younger brother named Colby.
And Chase texted me, for my brother's entire life, my dad has called him Kobe,
like Kobe Bryant.
He goes, it has severely bothered my brother for years.
How the fuck do you name your child and then mispronounce it for their entire life?
The ultimate dad move is you pick the name and still get it wrong.
Does he know his name has an L in it?
Why did they name him Colby?
Is it a family name?
No, I don't believe so.
So his dad named him Colby and they just, did the mom want the name or did the dad want the name?
I bet you it's just like it's kind of like the L's sometimes.
are tough to pronounce and he just I call him Kobe.
I love it.
It severely bothered my brother for years.
How the fuck do you name your child and mispronounce it?
And then he said also he always mispronounce is Chipotle, but that's pretty standard.
It feels like Chipotle is like a real constant.
Chipitai.
I had not heard of that one for Craig.
I mean,
like, but by far the number one we've gotten is people say my dad says Chipotle.
Chipotle, yeah, yeah.
The best was so many mailed in and said they, that their dad still.
calls Chipolte and tries to order and they have to explain to them that you're not you can't do that
like you can't work on the phone. That's crazy. I'm talking to you right now all the time.
Just write it down. I have American legal tender. I have money. Right. Right. Pull out a piece of paper.
White rice, pinto, fettas. What is you guys just Chipotle order? Chipotle. I go white rice,
black beans, the veggie fajitas, chicken or steak, depending.
I go mild and medium salsa, cheese, guac, lettuce.
It's pretty good.
What do you do?
I go, yeah, white rice.
I do half black beans, half pinto.
Oh.
And I do the fajita veggies.
Nice.
And then I think when you go half beans, it primes them.
You know how they give you less meat if you kind of like asked to do the hat, you know?
So it primes them.
So it kind of warrants them.
So instead, what else do is I'll say like steak.
Then when they're done, I'm like, actually I'll go double meat, carnitas.
And then there's kind of an urge to kind of match the amount.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, and then you, I don't do the cheese anymore because the dare, I miss the, you know, but the cheese is good. Gwach. I know it is good. Gwok. Gwok. The
Guac is good too.
The salsa.
They don't charge you extra anymore.
Is that right?
No, as far as I know.
Well, maybe some places, but the ones I've gone to lately.
But then I, if I mean, you're trying to be bad, you get the extra tortilla.
And if you roll the burrito yourself, you kind of can get two meals out of it because you can roll a burrito and there's plenty left in the bowl for later.
But that that was cool when I was young and needed the six bucks, but now I'm older.
And I actually need to not have the 600 calories from the tortilla.
Yeah.
Actually, I might be thinking of Kudoba.
Kedobo.
They're very similar, aren't they?
Moes?
Yeah.
If I'm really feeling slutty, I'll get chips and then turn it into like just a chip and dip with the bowl situation.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's that that is unbelievable.
It's so good.
I genuinely think that the fucking Chipotle guacamole is like some of the best quack I've ever had.
I don't know why it's so good.
It's just like cilantro, lime, salt and onions.
I think it's because the salt.
I think they add a lot of salt to it.
And I think salt, you'd be amazed at how much home food that you can actually add a lot more salt to it.
I think it's a ton of salt in that bitch.
Yeah.
That's like the one, I think David Chang's just like white people do not season their food
enough.
It's like the biggest issue with cooking at home is like none of us season of food enough.
It was funny to go to Dublin and outside of literal breakfast, no one really recommended
any Irish food at all from the entire country.
No.
It was like beans on toast, better than I thought.
But overall it was like, yeah, eat some blood sausage in the morning and just drink all day.
And like, what do you eat?
You're like, oh, when you're drunk, have some Chinese food.
Yeah, you get a spicy.
bag, 10 Guinness, that's enough calories.
300 emails about recommendations in Ireland and like two people mentioned food.
Yeah.
Fun times.
Okay.
I think that's all we got.
Thank you, D.K.
Thank you, Craig.
Thank you, Austin.
I'm so sorry about the Raiders.
Austin.
Thank you, Kai.
Thank you, Carlos.
Thank you, Ronick.
Thank you for listening.
Emails for your fantasy football at gmail.com.
We'll take your trivia.
Craig, take a moment.
Think about what trivia questions you want here.
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Thank you, Lord.
Lord.
Thank you, Shnade O'Connor.
Wow.
Nice.
DK, did you watch that famous S&L performance
when she ripped up the photo of the Pope?
I did not.
Not live.
But I know what you're talking about.
Did you watch SNL live ever back in the day?
Sometimes.
Sometimes.
Not like a lot.
I guess you were probably if that was 92 you were too young how old were you in 92?
10 yeah that was a huge should made head back then um but yeah that was in 92 that's wild
I know um yeah she recently passed away and she passed a couple years I was just Googling that
because I thought it was last year it was already two years ago actually yeah um some some
some of the all-time bangers she's she's got some great songs I know what's what's nothing oh
Nothing compares to you.
Nothing compares to you is a big one.
Yeah.
She was iconic back that day.
Sure.
Irish.
Yeah.
Well?
Big gulps, huh?
Well, the only thing I know is the speech and you kind of got, and the songs,
and you guys kind of beat me to the punch on that.
And I was like, oh, those are kind of my three things I do.
Yeah.
Big gulbs, huh?
All right.
Mike shakes.
You got the biggest fucking thing.
Big gulps, huh?
All right.
Well, see you later.
Craig, are you,
Craig,
do you,
like quote Dumb and Dumber a lot?
Do you know Dumb and Dumber,
like the back of your hand?
Yeah,
of my generation does.
I feel like Highfoot doesn't.
Have you seen Dumb and Dumber?
I don't know as well as you guys.
No,
it's not.
I feel like,
happy Gilmore.
I don't know as well as you guys,
but I've seen it like 25 times.
I haven't seen Dumb and Dumber.
Is top three in movies I can quote.
Like,
I can probably say the whole fucking movie.
I,
I just really love Jim Carrey.
Like,
we should,
We should do Ace Ventura for a movie quote episode.
We didn't do that on the rewatch was yet either.
I love those movies.
Yeah, same here.
What would you say?
Could you say, this is culturally expired?
Culturally expired.
It is.
I mean, yeah, Ace Ventura has not lived on in the way other comments of the 90s have.
I disagree.
You think?
I think, well, I know a lot of my friends and I quote it still.
But I would say to the next, like to Hyvinson, people at our age and even below,
I think movies like Happy Gilmore have lived on much better than Ace Ventura.
Yeah.
Dumb and Dumber has lived on
Better than Ace Ventura
There's a speaking of quotes
I just thought of this
I was talking to Skippy about this recently
One of the things that we always say to each other is
Goodbye my love
Like when we're leaving
You know
It's like the part from he's leaving the airport
And he's like Caesar walking through the thing
And he just goes goodbye my love
And then he gets hit by the
The crash test or what is it called
The fucking airbag
When
When Ace Ventura came out, fucking Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel destroyed it so much.
And they were like, this is the worst shit I've ever seen.
Jim Carrey will never have a movie career.
Like, it's over.
It's not going to work.
And then when the Truman Show came out, they gave a formal apology to Jim Carrey
to be like, we're very sorry.
We just didn't understand Ace Ventura.
And apparently it was a thing.
Like anybody, it's like, Hyvitz, it's like, what we talk about with everything
ever were all at once.
Anybody over 40 when Ace Venture came out was like, I think this is the worst thing I've
ever seen in my life.
Like, how do people like this?
I was watching it the other day.
It's like, seven of its time.
I feel like, yeah, I was watching it the other day.
Ace Ventura definitely would appeal.
It's kind of like almost in the Billy Madison thing where it's like so slapsticky and weird.
It's so goofy.
And I actually commit so hard to it.
I think I just figured out my theory on this.
I feel like things like that, Billy Matt, Adam's staying there.
Honestly, movies that kind of are funny because they are things you say in weird voices.
Yeah.
People don't do characters anymore like that.
Sandler, Jim Carrey.
I feel like if you were in.
The number still 911.
All righty then.
I feel like you have to be around your friends to quote it.
And if you see it at a point in life where you kind of are just around like you're just your wife and your kids like and you can't just like quote it to your stupid friends, it won't stick.
Also, maybe this is incorrect.
But don't you think a lot of these characters are kind of making fun of people with mental
disabilities and you just can't do that anymore.
Billy Madison for sure.
Billy Madison is like, do you know I'm dumb enough?
I never even put that together.
Billy Matt at Billy.
He's like Lloyd Christmas and Dumb and Dumber.
I mean, those guys are a few cents short of a doll.
Like a lot of these characters like that.
Fell off to that way again.
You know?
Yeah.
Like, yeah, you probably just can't do that.
Yeah.
I think Billy Madison should be like actually the opposite.
Billy Madison is on the extreme.
I think dumb and dumber is just like you mean I think you mean water boy.
Not, not Billy Madison.
No, I mean Billy Madison.
Well, Waterboy is definitely.
What?
Billy Madison, though, like, there's parts of that movie where I'm like, what the
fuck is this?
Like, he's chasing around an invisible penguin.
That I just kind of thought he was trunk.
Shapoie.
Yeah.
Like, it's like, this is kind of a hard watch.
But dumb and dumber is, it's not smarter, but it is, it's wittier.
something. I don't know what it's doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got worms.
Nobody has characters real anymore. Honestly, Tim Robinson's kind of doing it a little bit.
I have to admit, I just watched someone emailed in a Tim Robbins skit.
This, to Tim Robbins. I feel like Tim Robinson got fuck. Tim Robbins.
God damn it. Shotshake redemption. You know what's so funny. He just said that and I was like,
Tim Robbins. And in my head, I was like, I thought it was Tim Robinson. And I was like,
uh, don't say it wrong right here. I'm trying to. It's fine. I just match what you said. Like the most
acceptable,
I feel like
every Tim Robinson sketch I've ever watched
that people have sent me,
I watch it,
and I kind of just keep waiting
for the part where I'm supposed to laugh.
You know what,
here's what I'll say about that.
And the same thing you just said about the 90s
comedies and how you need to talk about it with somebody,
to me,
I think you should leave.
And all of these are way funnier
when you talk to your friends about them.
When you talk about the sketches,
they become way funnier
than actually watch them themselves.
Exactly.
Well, that is a whole thing with my friends and I
because I have friends who love Tim Robinson
and all that, like, I think you should leave,
the Detroiters, all those shows.
He makes me laugh so fucking hard.
Yeah, he's fucking hilarious.
But I will say,
I never actually watched all these shows
because I personally think these shows
need to be watched with friends.
You can't watch it by yourself.
It's not as good.
It's not as funny.
It's totally different thing.
They're awkward and uncomfortable, like, situations.
They're not really punch.
punchlines. I quote the show. Like I just I twice in this episode of how do we make money off
this and the hot though. We're looking for the guy who did this. But yeah, it's, it's like during
the sketch, you're kind of uncomfortable. You're like, oh, this guy's making an ass of himself.
But then once it's done and you talk, you talk to your friends about it, it's hilarious.
Yeah, I watched Tim Robinson the way other people talk about the office and how they can't watch
the office because it's too cringe. And I'm kind of like, what do you mean? You can't handle that.
And then I watched Tim Robinson and something about watching a joke that the punchline never comes.
I just I kind of can't make it through
It's not it's it's totally different style of comedy
Did you watch Craig? Did you watch the chair company yet? Oh I'm I want it is it's a good
It's fucking hilarious
It is the most outrageous shit I've ever seen
The end of the worst pillow in town
I won't spoil it but DK did you finish it
See episode five? Did you see the end of episode? I think I've done two I think I've done two episodes
I'll crush it tonight don't spoil it is it the same thing
It's pretty much the movie have you seen friendship the movie with him that came out the summer
That is also, I'm crushed in a mis in a theater.
But I want to watch all his stuff.
I know he's smart and funny.
Good.
Let me get to my point, though, about what I was saying earlier about like these types of
comedies is, and this may be people that are a little older can relate to me.
I personally don't like to watch comedy by myself.
I think it's way more fun and just way more enjoyable.
And, you know, it's just a different experience watching with your friends.
Here's the problem.
I don't really watch TV with my friends very often.
Yeah, I really got a time.
I fucking have a kid and a fucking job.
Like, how often are you going?
someone's someone's house watching TV with them. Yeah. You know what I mean? And like so when we get
together, we have friends that have a kid. We get together with them all the time. And like,
that's like the time when I can watch TV. And we started watching the chair company. And it's just like
the most fucking hilarious show. But I haven't watched. I'm the same as high fits. I know all the
memes. I know how to like, you know, reference the show. But I haven't actually watched all of I think
you should leave. The really need to. The zip line sketch of him on the Bachelorette. And he's only there
because he loves the zip line
is like the funniest thing I've ever seen my life.
Craig, I sent that.
So Calvin went to a birthday party
like a year ago and they had this
like big bouncy castle.
And Calvin spent the entire party
playing.
It's like a castle with like a slide.
He'd spent the entire fucking party
on this slide.
When the woman's like, Andrew,
I feel like I've made a really strong connection with you
and I'm like really happy to get to know you.
Mark,
I'm pretty sure you're just here because of the zip line.
He's like, what?
And then it shows all the replays of him going into the pool.
The maintenance guy's like, yeah, he keeps breaking it because he's using it so much.
He's like, shut up, Mark.
So fucking buddy.
Wait, one more thing before we go.
And it shows him on it, like doing tricks on it, dude.
It just kills me.
Oh, my God.
He's like shaking his legs.
I think what they do, what Tim Robinson and his squad does that is unique is casting.
I think they are the most kind of, they cast shows and sketches different than any other
comedy I've ever seen. And I can't even really explain it. But all of the side characters are,
are, they don't even seem like real people. Like they are like these like larger than life
characters that don't look like people you see every day are not actors you've seen anywhere else.
That's a big thing. And it heightens the reality in a very weird way. It becomes like surrealist
because of these people and the lines they give them. It's very interesting. I just watched the one
about lying to kids because I wanted to, I kind of wanted to bring that back about all the lies people
told kids. And then there's one where he has where there's a sketch with him and like a six-year-old
girl like, can we go to ice cream? He's like, no, it's closed. And he waits and the guy next to him.
And it's Bob Odenkirk. And he's like, yeah, they're closed. And your dad and I are best friends.
And he just like three minutes of him just telling more lies to this child and making it to
Robison. Oh, I recommend friendship. It's it's uncomfortable, but really funny. And the chair
company. They're both great. The end of episode five of chair company is one of the most
insane things I've ever seen in my life.
Okay, then I'm fucking, I'll watch it.
Craig, did you see the interview?
I think it was Seth Myers with Tim Robinson where he's talking about what he was a writer
on S&L.
None of his skits would get, like, approved except for the very last one before they
turn the show off or whatever.
Yeah, their sketches made.
They had one where it was like, it's this grandpa on his deathbed.
Oh, it hurts.
And he's like, he's like ready to drift off into, you know, and die peacefully.
He's like talking about how he's okay with it.
He comes to term with it.
And then right before he's about to die, he's like, wait, no!
I don't want this!
He trained spots with me.
He trained with me with his daughter.
He's trying to suck the oxygen out of his granddaughter.
Like, no! Come back!
Oh, God. Really good.
Oh, he's like, yeah, we didn't, they didn't want to open SNL with that skit.
Yeah.
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