The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking NFL Rules We Want Changed, the One Second Christmas Song Challenge, and Fantasy Court

Episode Date: December 24, 2025

The guys are power ranking the NFL rules they want changed, from juiced kicking balls and the tush push to throwback jerseys, emergency quarterbacks, and more. They also take on a fantasy court case, get into some Christmas chaos, and preview the Week 17 slate. (00:00) Intro (03:12) Power Hour (01:01:06) Ringer Fantasy Football League Update (01:03:31) Fantasy Court (01:11:39) 1-Second Song Challenge: Christmas Edition (01:30:36) Ringer 107 Picks (01:34:58) Emails Discord link: https://discord.gg/Ge8bbYHrau Check out the 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings: https://fantasyfootball.theringer.com/ Email us! [e-mail] This episode is sponsored by Chime. Bank Smarter, Progress Farther The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Cameron Dinwiddie “Arcade”: NSYBBH8ONNLKC7H4 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Daddy Hyphen. Today I'm joined my daddy, Kelly, and Craig Coral Beckett. Today it is Power Hour. We're we powering something every Wednesday. And today we are power ranking the rules. We want to change in the NFL. We're going over Power Hour.

We're changing rules. We're doing Fantasy Court. And we're going to do the one second song challenge for Christmas songs. And we'll do some kind of preview for Week 17. Dek is already shaking his head. A lot going on in this episode. A lot going on. I still look like I'm in, you know, like breaking

bad when they want to show. It's like the Mexico filter on Netflix or yeah, I look like I'm a Narcos with my orange, like the Marty Supreme ping pong ball. So that's fun. And then, yeah, and Craig and I have our Christmas sweaters on and D.K says he doesn't own any Christmas gear. Bah humbug. Yeah.

That's a Scrooge thing to say. Bah humbug is yes. And not only that, D.K seemed like the most muted shirt and hat. What couldn't be less vibrant. Craig, this is the most colorful shirt I own. Even the Grinch actually has pop the color. scheme, you know. Shoot, sorry, guys.

I actually, I quite honestly don't have any Christmas gear. The Grinch is a nice vibrant green. He is. Why is the Grinch Green? He's just sad. It's a Dr. Seuss story? I watched a new one this week and I cried. It was great.

Which one was the new one? Well, the new animated one. It's the one where Tyler, the creator, does the song in the beginning. It's like animated. It's like halfway between the old one and the Jim Carrey mania. Oh, interesting. I've not seen that one. It's pretty great.

I recently watched Klaus. Have you seen that movie animated? Oh, I heard about this. Maybe. I heard it was good. It's very good. I recommend it. Oh, interesting.

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direct deposit earn 1.5% cash back on eligible secured CHIM visa credit card purchases. APY means annual percentage yields. Learn more at chime.com. Power hour time. We are power ranking rules that we want changed. And unfortunately, disrespect to Tom Tom.

some of these rules might take way more than two minutes and some are going to be like 20 seconds. But we have a bunch of rules that was kind of inspired by the Monday conversation we had. But guys, you sent me the rules you wanted changed. I had a bunch. I'm here and also the reason it looks so orange and everything. I'm at Jackie's brother's home. We're here for Christmas. I ran that.

I asked Jackie's family for rules. I don't know if you guys. Did you guys solicit any outside opinions here? I asked Liz. She didn't have any. No? That's crazy. Too many games is what she said.

That's short in the season. Liz also made the best comment of the season, was like the guys batting the ball away from the end zone on a punt. And this was like, what's that? She's like, that's not, that can't be football. What the hell was that? It's a good take. I organize these from most realistic to least.

I basically have three categories here, which are rules we want and also things that actually might happen this offseason. And then rules that we actually think would improve the NFL, but we don't think the NFL will do. And then just what would the Savannah bananas do if they did football banana ball? And those are, we're going to go. Stilts. Stilts.

Guys on stilts tackling flame throwers. Clowns. I like the Savannah bananas though. I do too. Why not? I mean, they're great. They sell out so much. Also, the guy who owns it is cool.

He's like not jacking up any of the prices. He's never going to sell it. Yellow suit. Dekid, do you have a yellow suit? You should have put that on for this. I would have if I did, but I don't. Oh, yeah. All right.

So with that said, I want to get into the power hour here. Should we play TomTom once just to kick it off? Just to make ourselves feel good. Feel the vibes? Sure. Okay. Just one Tom Tom. Merry Christmas to Tom Tom.

I want to start with the number one best rule. And this is a rule that I think actually needs to happen and the NFL might actually do. But number one, Craig, you said this. We have to unjuice the kicking balls. Unjuice the kicking balls slash and or change the field position rules. Let's go back to 2024. The NFL introduced the dynamic kickoffs, which is the thing we see now that does not resemble the game I knew and loved. on every kickoff or like nobody moves and it's all bizarre.

Anyway, last year when they implemented that, the starting line where the field position was 30 yards after a touchback. You started at the 30 yard line. Then in 2025, they moved that up even more to the 35 yard line. That plus the K balls, which sounds like a drug, the kicking balls, which allows you to work, basically work in the football for the entire season. It used to be you only had that day. It used to be like it was game day and you had to like massage.

the balls to the point where they were less slick, easier to kick, allows you to be more accurate. Now the NFL allows you to do it the entire season. So these teams get basically unlimited time to massage these balls, which is good. Usually that's good. You want a lot of time for that. We don't shame that usually, except for an instant instance. Yeah. But now these kickers are more accurate than ever.

They can kick it further than ever. And field position is better than ever, which has resulted in the most field goals we've ever seen, not only from close range, but at long range. Two weeks ago, we saw Philip Rivers playing the Seahawks. He completed two passes for 19 yards, and that was enough to get his team into field goal position to kick a game tying field goal against the Seahawks. And I hate that. Teams are just field position merchants now. And if you look at the numbers, it's crazy of what's happening with fuel goals over the last 10 years, five years, even two years. Ten years ago, kickers made 104 field goals of 50 plus. This year, we're already at 195. So,

doubled in 10 years. Last year, when they changed the kickoff rules, there were 15 attempts of 60 plus yards. 15. Four of those were made, which is 26%. 26% of 60 plus yard fuel goals were made last year. This year, the number's 50%. Damn.

And we've already kicked 20 of them. You know, the 60 yarders? We have 20 attempts already of 60 plus yarders, and we've made 10. And just to get context of that, 10, 60 yard field goals made this season. There were four 60 yard field goals made in the entire 20th century. And they were all last year. You know what this reminds me of?

It reminds me of like when a little kid decides they don't want their turtle anymore. So they release it into the local pond. And then after four generations, the turtles have completely eradicated some like, you know what I mean? Like they've completely taken over the ecosystem and like fucking killed all this. At what cost? Yeah. killed all the other certain animal. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, but you know what I mean.

They've fucked with the ecosystem. They're changing football for the worse. Craig, the last two seasons, not only like everything you said totally agree with all that, the last two seasons, to put it simply, are the most field goals made per game ever. Like, who wants this? The least actual football part of football is now, well, I know that the name is like football, but the least actual spiritual part of football is,

now fucking field goals. Who wants this? Why is this good? No one wants this. I think that the NFL had two parallel things they were working on and they didn't really think enough about the confluence where they meet because they were trying to make the kickoff safer and they were, but still get returns, which they've totally succeeded at with the dynamic kickoff. Like, there are more kickoffs and I think it's worked. Like there's way more kick returns. And they also basically, I think some teams were probably fudging the cable thing and they wanted to, I don't know why they decided to let the cable thing happen. But basically what they've done is they made field goals

into participation trophies. Because when we were growing up, this is my first real back in my day rant, but you used to need 50 yards to get in scoring position. Like you would get the touchback at the 20, and you would need about 50 yards to get to the other team's 30, and that was field goal range.

And now the kickoff the touchback is at the 35, and you just have to cross the 50. So we've gone from needing 50 yards to if you're Dallas, you need like 15. which that's so ridiculous awful it's terrible which would you rather change the k-balls or the field position the cables and i don't think it's close for two reasons one the kickoff has worked the whole reason they changed the kickoff was can we get kick returns while not basically the NFL you know i don't want to pretend like they care too much about safety and head and concussions

and everything but punts and kickoffs were disproportionately uh really high-risk plays for concussions. And the NFL was like, wait, why do the percentage-wise the most at-risk concussion play is the most boring one where people get up to piss? Like, why are guys getting concussed on plays that fans are leaving their seats and pissing in the bathroom? That's insane. So they're like, can we make it interesting but not dangerous anymore? So that's why they have done all these rules, which is just to line the guys up 10 yards apart so they're not running full speed at each other. It's so that they kind of block and they're not having really dangerous plays. So my short version is that's worked. They've actually kind of, I think it's okay to

keep the kickoff as it is because it's safer and their armor returns. And I like the kickoffs being returned. I think the answer then is we shouldn't have the balls be worked in. Like it's like, it's like a baseball glove. Getting one day to work it in is different than months. And I think we should just go back to how it was a couple years ago. Stop letting teams beat the crap out of the balls and just, oh, Dick is trying to try, thank you for trying to be mature as they said that. Go back to having 60 yard kicks be kind of hard. Yeah. Yeah. How many third string kickers have we seen this year?

I had to look this up, but off the top of my head, they're logs. The Niners made a third string kicker this year, made a 60 yard field goal. I believe the Packers backup kicker made a 60 yard field goal. I think there's been two or three 60 yards by second or third string kickers, which yeah, that's stupid. Here are the 60 yards hit this year. Brandon Aubrey is three. Everybody else here, the rest of the guys have one.

Chris Boswell, Chase McLaughlin, Evan McPherson, Lucas Haversick, Blake Groupie, Will Riker, Cam Little, that's the list. Three of those guys were cut. Like,

that's kind of the point. So anyway, I think we should go back to the world where 60-yarders are impressive and we'd un-juice the cables. I don't like starting on the 35.

You're too close. But that is the difference between teams returning kicks or not because if you don't, if you put it at the 35, the touchback goes to the 25, teams will just boot it into the end zone. Teams would rather just kick the ball

out of bounds past the end zone, then coach players to, like, defend the kickoff. It has to be so far removed. So the reason the kickoff goes to the 35 is so the, they force the team kicking off to actually kick it in bounds. Otherwise, they're just going to boot it out of the end zone. What if that's just the rule? What if it's just like you have to kick it in bounds? And if it's not, it's a massive penalty, but that's it.

But would you be, but if there's like a gust of wind and it brings it to the end zone and you get a 30 yard penalty, wouldn't you be out about that? I don't know. I don't know. I just think the simplest answer to your point is like, we should just stop letting them fuck with the balls. Part of me thinks that having a worked in football, like, makes sense. I don't want baseball players to be playing with a stiff glove.

That's dumb. And so I'm like, it's part of me is like, it's kind of cool that we're seeing guys like Brandon Aubrey and Cam Little kick 65-yarders. That's cool. And we're seeing people get better and their craft is improving. And I kind of like that or I appreciate that. But I don't like that. you just get the ball 35% of the way down the field for doing nothing.

Like, I almost think there should be no kickoffs and you just start on the fucking 20. The end of that's what the NFL wants to avoid. DK, what do you think of that? Because I just think you're right about the kicking thing. My take is just, it's just easier to change one thing than fix the kickoff.

Why does the NFL want to get not run to get rid of kickoffs? They don't want to change the game. They think it's an exciting play, I guess. Yeah. I will say this. And I don't have anything against the new dynamic kicking rules, but I just think, generally like Heif had said it earlier everybody's like taking a pister and kickoff it's like

it's it's just not a huge part of the game anymore I don't think and I think that taking that out rather than taking the balls out actually maybe in terms of like being able to do the cable I think that actually makes a little bit more sense yeah you'd rather eliminate the kickoff entirely than just go back to the how we did it the last 25 years I think 100% I don't give a shit about kickoffs they don't matter they're stupid like look at what the game already looks like like the amount of we've had to contort to make the kickoff work is already so clunky and awkward that I'm like, just get rid of it.

Coaches will be pissed because it's like special teams. It's like now suddenly get rid of special teams is basically what happens. I mean, you still have field goals and punts. Yeah, we can talk about this more of the offseason. This rule I think will get addressed in some way because it's it's just score again. You used to need 50 yards, they need 15.

While other rule that I think will happen, rule changes we want. You know what? Just ban the tish push. in some way. I think it's, you got a ban being able to push

your player forward, right? Yeah. I, this is, this is the, you know, it's so funny. And again, I have defended the tush push,

I think more than, I've been like a nine and a half at a 10 push push, push defender. I think teams that were trying to ban it before they even tried to run it was pathetic. I like the Eagles, though,

I'm just tired. And I surrender and I'm tired of hearing about it. I'm tired of seeing it. Like I'm not even against it as much as I'm just exhausted by all of this. But I agree, D.K., one of the reasons that the, NFL, the tush push ban failed because the NFL basically used the Packers.

Goodell used the Packers to kind of like put the proposition of the table and they had two issues. One, they kind of pretended it was about player safety and everyone was like, that's horseshit. The other problem was they had was writing the rule is so much harder than you think. Because without a blanket ban on offensive linemen can push guys forward, it's actually really hard to write the rule. But that's the other question is, okay, Tush push is one thing. This never happened, I feel like, but now it is so common.

place for a guy, like a running back at the goal line to get off. This is the next version of it. Shouldn't we just make that illegal? Well, that's the question. Is it legal for your offensive lineman? Because honestly, it becomes like a second play where the lineman just launched. Like this happened, Drew Dowman. I think the, for the bears just took Kyle Mungi and threw it like four yards.

I feel like that should just be illegal. You can like manufacture a scrum and then push your player forward for like 10 yards, which is stupid. Because if you can do that forward, you should be able to do it backwards, which they wouldn't allow because forward progress gets stopped. So it's like you can push them forward indefinitely, but you couldn't push them backwards. Or we get rid of forward progress entirely and we just actually make it like, yeah, just push,

just scrum and we reinvent the rugby scrum. I agree with this. I think they should get rid of the push. And I think it should be more broadly about figuring out a way to stop offensive linemen from just basically picking up and pushing their players forward. Yeah. I will not bore everyone, but when maybe we get to the offseason, I'll some of the how hard it is to write the proposals

and hearing like, I think Mike Tomlin or one of the coaches talking about like actually reading the proposals and like what writing the rule is of like, it's so much dumber than you think the actual legalese of like, well, you can push him if he's a quarterback and like, just basically writing it in a way that teams can't get around it but doesn't cover other things.

It's funny. We can leave that to the lawyers. Yeah, the rest. The rest can deal with that. Okay, let's get to more fun things. Things we actually want in the NFL, but the NFL won't start, won't do. Which, D.K, probably the single most popular thing that we'll do this time. Look, I could run for president on this platform and I think I'd win. Unlimited throwback uniform days.

Why do we have a limit on this? I don't understand this at all. I think unanimously, uniformly, pun intended, every single throwback is better than the ones the teams are using now. Is that true? What do you think, Craig? Here's my question for you. If you have ice cream every single night for dinner, it no longer becomes fun. I think I disagree with that.

I think ice cream is delicious. I don't think I eat cassidias every day, Craig. I don't think I could get sick of ice cream. You want your cake and eat it too. I do. Yeah. I think I don't disagree with what you're saying. I'm kind of just playing devil's advocate.

But because like my God, the Seahawks jerseys in the Ram Seahawks came last week were abominable. They like they should have been kicked out of the league. That was like Oregon straight up. It looked like like Oregon Photoshop that they're like, this one's terrible. Let's throw this in trash. And then they gave it to Seattle. So I hand me down. They just like shipped it up a couple hours north to Seattle.

You guys have these. Yeah, yeah. They grew on me. But then the old, the week before, the Seattle throwbacks were incredible. But I'm like, do we just fully go back to like the 90s aesthetic and every team just has the 90s jerseys? Maybe we do that. My clarification is it can't be alternates like Oregon where it's every, every game is like some different colored uniform where you don't actually know what the Oregon uniform is. Like, I have no idea.

could you tell me what the Oregon uniform is? No, they are purposely different every single time. I don't think I can tell you what Oregon's helmets are anymore. They change so much. So I don't want that, to be clear. What I do want is teams can choose, which they can choose to use the throwbacks all the time if they want. Like they don't have to use their current whatever uniforms. How about this?

In August every year or July, make it a fan vote. Put up five options. Let the fans pick what the home jerseys are this year. Well, this is just a larger thing with NFL fashion too, which Craig, I mean, I think your guys is partners aren't as into football as mine, but I think I've noticed a lot that women's, like, football gear is so bad. It's just men's gear, but like smaller and pink. And it's actually like, once Jackie pointed out to me, I actually can't believe how unimaginative football fashion is. It's crazy. It's just a logo in the middle of the shirt. It's like they haven't tried to actually

do anything with any of the clothing they sell in like 40 years. Yeah. And now Kyle Eusecichick's wife is, is trying to change that. Yeah. It literally, yeah, it took Taylor Swift wearing her jacket for us to be like oh man i don't know should we should we try with the clothing yeah and honestly a lot of the older gear i would say looks better there's like cool t-shirts and stuff from like the 80s and 90s that are just more interesting we used to well this is a different conversation too because we used to have colors like you know millennial gray it's like the cars and suitcases and houses used to be colors and now everything's just black silver or fucking gray beige every team's uniform fucking rams bone the rams of taladaaga

bone color he was like what did what did france give the world he was like what did france give the world He's like, democracy, existentialism, and zeblot jobs. Like, what did millennials give the world? It's like, grayge, fleem. They gave the color of this t-shirt I'm wearing today. I agree with the throwback thing. I just think throwback jerseys need to, I think it's good when both teams wear the throwbacks.

Like the boxy, when the jets just randomly wear a jersey from 100 years ago, it looks done. What if you raffle off a year? And then both teams wear their uniforms from that year. Well, that was the Bucks'i-I-Ox game, which was good. It's like kind of a fun little wrinkle. It should be a fan vote. Yeah.

Fucking American Idol. I want to pick what my team looks like every year. You could freaking sell it to advertisers. This is the Mikkelope Ultra 1977 throwback day and it's like whatever. You can make money off this. That's what we got to do.

That's good. We should let the NFL know those ways to make money. That's a good idea. Okay. The other one we actually want, but the NFL won't do, which is DK. We've never talked about this in the show. You said, I think we have one time.

Okay. You said you wanted holding to be a five-year penalty and not an automatic first step. So the automatic reply to this is like if you actually watch where a lot of holding takes place, it's like 10 yards backwards because the quarterback's dropping back. So I kind of understand why that is a rule. However, in the interest, and this is unabashedly a fantasy rule, and it's to boost scoring, every time you see a fucking holding penalty, it's like, okay, well, the drive's over. You know what I mean? Like not literally, but the amount of times that a holding penalty will kill a drive is really, really high.

if you make that a five-yard penalty instead of a 10-yard penalty, I think scoring will go up in a kind of a natural way. It's not necessarily like you're just not allowing defenders to do anything. It's just like this is a boost to offense. However, in the interest of fairness, I'll turn it around and say you pair this with defensive holding is now no longer an automatic first down. So defenders have a little more leeway. They can decide strategically when to hold a little bit more.

It's only a five-yard penalty or whatever it is. Maybe it'd be like at the spot of the foul, whatever. but it's not an automatic first down. It gives a little bit of, gives a little bit more power to each side. I think, I think scoring would go up a lot if this was the rule. This is like,

if you go back to the, do you remember in the, or sorry, in the COVID year, I think it was 2020, 2020, 2021. I can't remember which one. They basically just stopped fucking calling holding and the NFL scored more than any other year ever. I'm not trying to go all the way,

full COVID, but like maybe this is like a good compromise in the between. You never go full. You don't go full COVID again. I think I hear you more on the offensive side than the defensive side. I think defensively, like, if it's only, if it's not an automatic first down and you're a cornerback and it's like third and 15 and you get beat, you could just yank a guy back and then they, you know, essentially they have to.

What if we, what if we do this instead instead of pass interference being a spot foul, you make it like a 15 yard penalty. Don't they have that in college? I believe that's the rule in college. Yeah, I think it that, the college one reminds you of like Xbox versus PlayStation. It's like, I like, whichever one you go. I think it once again makes sense because if it's like some deep ball and you don't want to give it up, you could just like crush the wide receiver and it's only a 15-yard penalty.

Yeah, but then there's like so many tickey-tack PI penalties. It's like I think it goes both ways a little bit. Those things depend on, I think you're when it's a spot foul or the defensive, look, the reality is spoiler. We're always going to complain about shit. When it pass interference as a spot foul, you're going to complain about bad calls that are tick-tack that are like getting spot-fowled and you're going to complain about a ticky-tack defensive holdings a first down.

If you make it not an automatic first or you make it not a spot foul, you're going to complain about a 50-yard touchdown that was the egregious now becomes what you get away with. Well, you get that maybe the egregious like if you're just fucking tackle a guy that is a spot foul.

It's like a flagrant. But now the refs get to pick and then that's another decision. Tackling, that's pretty easy to see. Wouldn't you say though, D.K., right now that the way it is right now makes it so the cornerback is disadvantaged. If the cost of committing a foul goes down,

there will be more fouls. Like, that's the problem. 100%. If you're like, oh, like literally, left tackles, right tackles, like, oh, I'm doing Miles Gare. I'm like, only five yards. If I get called for this,

it's like, so everyone's going to hold more. Cornerbacks are terrified to give up 40 yards, so they're not doing anything. And now, if it's like, oh, it's only going to be a 10, 15-yard penalty, I'll just commit past interference every single time. Yeah, so there's more flags. Be more flags.

And then you're angrier. The holding one is interesting. Let me, let me toss this by you, I just thought of this. because I go back and forth, five yards versus 10 yards. What if the first, I don't know,

three holding penalties of the day are five yards. After that, they become 10. It's like progressive wells. Yes. How cool would that be? Talk about incentivizing not holding

at the end of the game. It's like, hey, we can't hold now because now it's a 10-yard penalty. Ooh, I kind of like that. Kind of like that. I like where we're going with this. How is active that work, Craig?

The first three holdings of the game are five yards after that they're 10. Hmm. There we go. I always fear making stuff more complicated, but that's pretty good. That's not bad. That's not. There's something there. We can't worry too much about making it too complicated.

The fucking rule book is 100 pages. That's a good point. What's 101? Yeah. That's a good point. Okay. So speaking to which, my instant replay, this is my fix. And I, you know, if I had to pick all the things I'm right about, I would pick this

first of like the most, it's like instant replay. Like, again, you're never going to be perfect. No one's ever going to be able to slow down this game going at a thousand miles per hour, take granular instant replay and like get everything right. However, the standard to overturn a call in the field is clear and obvious evidence. And I think that the referee should like almost maybe literally not be allowed to view any camera angle five times. Like they get to look at the camera angles each one, but they only get to look at each angle three times. And then you make a decision.

And then if you can't decide, it's not clear and it's not obvious. And if you want to look, you want to make a decision and watch a fourth time to make sure, cool. But like, you literally don't get to watch it more than three times. You can watch every angle thrice and then fucking decide. Should it be based on time and not the amount of times you get to watch an angle? Should it be more of just like a clock? You have like a shot clock? No, because two reasons.

You don't want them rushing. And also statistically literally everything that's ever been researched, ever, if you add a clock, a timer to any kind of human activity, it makes people get worse. Like if you were like, hey, have 60 seconds to do this, everyone just gets worse. Like TomTom Club. Like Tom Tower. Yeah, exactly.

No, just the refs will get worse, not better if they're rushing and they know they're on the clock. Name a woman. Yeah, name a woman. But yeah, so I just, if you watch something three fucking times and you get to slow-mo it and like these guys were making the call in judgment and you still don't know, that's the answer. Sorry.

Yeah, somehow we forgot to add the rule into this doc that everything is just reviewable so I can get it right. I don't see I think that's really dangerous and I think people I Technology is not going to save you dangerous technology is not going to save you because suddenly if everything's reviewable then when any close game like Seahawks ran technology is saving a lot of us so for now I'm just saying that like medical technology come on I think when everyone now has NFL plus and can get all 22 and that you could look at every play and people are going to be like well this was holding and this was that it's like

you pulled the thread and you're like hey guess what 80% of these calls are fucking subjective. You're going to make everything reviewable. Like, it's hard to enforce rules on a chaotic game. Like, I don't, I think it's frankly, I think, I don't think everything should be reviewable. I think the standard should be egregious penalties, which is what the expeditive replay, I think, was supposed to be for, which is like, instantly recognizable, catastrophic mistakes, break glass in case of emergency, we can undo it. We got it. We have to figure out a way.

I just think when we do it. a review. We got to get rid of the, this is not reviewable thing. You know what I mean? Because this has happened, this happens constantly. That almost never had except for what the whistle's blown. Yeah, this happens constantly. It's like, oh, this was weird. We're taking a look at this, and you can see clearly that this has happened, but this is not a reviewable judgment. This is not a reviewable call. So therefore, we're just going to tell you that we're wrong on this and go ahead and go ahead and like make this the thing. This dovetails nicely into my rule. which we can basically combine,

which is that the ref in the booth, aka Terry McCauley, Gene Sterritor, whoever it is, gets the veto button. They're like Michael Boubley on the fucking voice. They hit the button, the chair spins around, and they can make the call. Because, for example,

the Sunday night game, Patriots, Ravens, Booty, Kishon Booty got assaulted 40 yards down the field. They did not call the flag. Not reviewable. He literally got tackled for like 10 seconds. It was like in slow motion the penalty. I've never seen anything like it.

They don't call anything. Collinsworth and Tarika are beside themselves. They bring in Terry McCauley. McCauley immediately goes, yeah, I don't know what that was. That was a flag. That was a past interference. He should get to hit the button and say, I'm stepping in. It's a past interference.

I think this is your best take, Craig. Pivoting from I don't want those guys, I think that was a terrible take. Give them power. What are they there for if they don't have power? They should be the refs because all those guys were reps for 20 or 30 years. I think you're right. they should be the refs and they should have to explain to everybody based on the angles. We're seeing.

Yeah. Yeah. Live. He's looking at the 50 Sunday night football canvas. Let him make the call. And he explains it to us. I think you're right. I actually think those guys.

You don't think things should be revealable, but you think Craig's right here. Okay. No, I'm saying every place. He hates my rule. No, I love your rule. Craig, the fact that you said it and hyphids agree to it, that's great. He just was disagree with me in general, I think. We're saying the same thing.

We're saying the same thing. Craig, Craig can, we can have somebody who just decides something is clearly illegal is basically what I'm saying. No, no, no.

To be clear, that already exists. We're saying the New York Command Center, every single instant replay, like it goes to New York. Yes, yes. Like, it goes,

but then why are they always wrong? Why are they always disagreeing with Terry McCauley? No, but those are different things, D.K. What I'm saying is things that, maybe we're not on the same page. What I'm saying is change the rule

so everything's reviewable. Like, that's a little pin to worse box. What I'm saying is instead of the referees having to consult with New York, this shadowy banker, like deal or no deal, like this shadowy figure, that person is Terry McCauley. Like, Terry McCauley is instead of this, like, private person that, like, in New York and this, like, New York Park Avenue, like, control center. I think that person should be Terry McCauley. And they have to look at it. And then they instantly make a decision and they explain it to everybody live. And that he, there is no middleman.

There's no New York control center head ref. They are there. I agree. I agree. But to defend D.K. Here, the play I was just outlining the Kishon Booty play that was not reviewable. I think Terry McCauley should be allowed to come in and say, I'm throwing a flag. Yeah.

I'm pressing the flag button. Yeah. I agree for egregiousness. I think it has to be like, honestly, my rule for that would be to watch it once. If you have to watch a play twice, even, you don't get to reverse it for the non-reveeable ones. Because it should be like the Saints Rams championship game one. That should be revealable. You're right.

But you didn't have to watch it twice. It's just remarkable that Mike Tariko. Chris Collinsworth and Terry McCauley. Three, you know, ostensibly football experts, former players, former refs, all three of them go, man, that really looked like a flag. And the one guy who literally was a rough goes, yeah, I would have thrown a flag there.

And nothing can be done about it. It happens every game. Like, legit happens every game. So this is what the Exifel did, the SkyRef. I think that's, is that right? Yeah, basically I'm just saying everything shouldn't be reviewable all the time. It should be like, wow, that was like a huge mistake. But yeah, I think we're right to say page.

Okay, the next rule here, this is simple. I just think safety should be worth four points. I agree. Yeah, done. You know what fucking hard is to get a safety? It's like the hardest thing to do. This should go up higher hyphids. This should be even the ones they, I don't know what we are in now, but this is a no-brainer.

It being less than a field goal, especially with us just talking about how fucking easy it is to kick a field goal. You know how hard is to get a safety? How many are there a year like seven? Yeah. It should be way more. It's insane. It's so. And you still get to keep possession.

I'm like, people are like, well, if you make it a bunch of points and you keep possession is powerful. It should be powerful. You tackled the other team in their own end zone. Yeah. I agree. Even if you want to make it three, that's fine.

But it shouldn't be less than a field goal. You could convince me that it should be like Harry Potter and quidditch. It's like games go to 40 or 50. But if you catch the golden snitch, you get like 300 points in the game's over. You could convince me that the safety should be walk off no matter what time it is. It's death cup. Yeah.

It's like death cup. I think that's dumb. I think that's dumb. Safety is death cup. A bridge too far here. If you get tackled in your, isn't football just cosplay for war? End zone should be your capital city. If you get tackled in your end zone, it's fucking over.

Like, it's fucking, like the whole point is, it's sacred. You can wage a guerrilla war. You don't need a capital. Come on. I think teams should punt on first fucking down before you get safety. It's so embarrassing. And that's funny. If it's like first in 10 on the one inch line, they're just like, fuck it.

We're just punting. I really, I really, it should be death cup. I like that. I don't. That's fun. I think it's funny. I don't think they should do it. Make it four.

This one, DK, you wrote this in, but so did Jackie's brother Joe had the same idea. Or no, no, wait, no, you didn't send me this one. You and Joe had two of the same ideas.

This was not one of them. Sorry, we said there should be emergency quarterbacks and we joke that they should be like NFL employees and we send them to cities. You know what's so funny? They have this in hockey. This is a very real thing.

So in hockey, they're called ebugs. They're called emergency backup goalkeepers. What? And this is the thing. Still a rule? They're not league employees. the home team has to arrange for an emergency backup at every game.

And he's the third string goalkeeper. And he could play for either teams. He's not a team employee. But he has experience. And it's like all like, but it's such a real thing. Every like two or three years it happens. But this is a real thing. And like the fact that the NHL does this, this is every game.

It's like a rule that the home team has to provide this. So the fact that the NHL is out here doing this every game for 80, how many, what is, 81 or the 82 games a year in hockey? they still have ebugs come in and play in games yeah it happened at least during COVID it happened once yes it happened during 20 it does happen sometimes and these are like 50 year old men or who are these guys 42 yeah I can't I mean here wait I'll shut why I don't understand that what in hockey I'm like why can't they just get like let's say they're there's two first goalies get hurt

why can't they just like take a player and put them in goalie gear and throw them in the fucking that takes too long to put all that shit on Craig you know long of that takes in the gear In the stands, he's already in the gear. Dude, he does sit in the stands, though. He just sits in the stands. It's insane. He sits in the stands?

Dude, you want me to read the rules? Yeah, he's so he can't, yeah, he can't be. Hockey is, though. Hockey's the best sport in the world. It is the best sport. He is, he can't be a paid team employee because he could play for the away team if the away team needs him. Typically his playing experience at the pro college or at least, at least high school level,

which is so funny. They find the fattest guy they can and they fucking. The squarest build. Yeah. They get professional trial contracts, allow ebugs to be paid $500 a game. They get paid hourly. That's so fun.

Dude, I want to be a professional ebug. I know. What do you work once every five years? If that. Incredible. The per die. Just a lot of travel,

probably eating out of good restaurants. This is a good idea for a movie. You could call a movie bug and it's like a hockey movie. And it's about a guy who's like the, who's the ebugs and he has to come in and like, you know, he does something incredible. That would work.

Get Shalamey to do it, Craig. Oh, Shalame's the bug. He's not exactly built. No, it's Sandler for an e-bug. No, it's like,

you know, somebody in the, who's like, yeah, I guess it would be somebody in their 40s who's like getting a little older. I mean,

Sandler, I guess would probably be great. Yeah, 50-old. And he hasn't really done a hockey movie. He kind of has with Happy Gilmore, but let him actually do one. It's like,

it's also like the rookie, the Dennis Quaid movie, the guy who tries to make majors of four or he's a rookie. Yeah, it's pretty good. But yeah, it's pretty good. But yeah,

Famous Philip Rivers and, you know, Joe Flacco, like Joe Flacco just gets to be the emergency backup for the fact that this is a real thing on one of the other four major American men sports is actually like, okay, yeah, the NFL should do this. There's precedent here. Flacco should be employed by the NFL, not on a specific team. There's no like, he's like got the, the NFL hat, like the. Yeah, he's like Roblo. Roblo and Stan. And they get a health care for their 11 kids for Flackos. He just wears an NFL uniform.

But so is it a waiver system? Can you only have them for one week? Like how does that work? They're roving band of like higher guns. Like borough goes down in the Bengals, let's say, are first on waivers to get the all-time QB pick. Can they get flacco for three months or is it only one week? How does that work?

I don't know. I think we'll have to figure out some details, but I think I think we'd have to make this happen. This is pretty good. We can't be having Chris Alattakin. Exactly. Playing football. Where was exactly?

Where was James for that game? Okay. This is actually the best rule. We're actually. have great rules here. Okay. The other one that the NFL should do that will never do, which is Craig. You have perfected an idea of how the NFL should actually run their season and the draft order. I feel very strongly about this. I think the NFL needs a loser's bracket. I think it is a way to make the end of the season entertaining across the board and does not eliminate.

Basically, last month of the season, half the teams are irrelevant. And I think this is a money making opportunity for the NFL and could make the game more interesting. I basically think it's like whatever it's the losers bracket toilet bowl it's the n i basically think the final month of the season once teams are officially eliminated from the playoffs they enter a losers bracket so it's like the bottom 10 teams face off in a tournament style march madness style showdown to basically like the college football playoff to compete for draft order and maybe cash as well or something like that well the end of the cat i'm just trying to make money not give it away Craig well we'll see but i i like want to incentivize the players,

like would, would Tua want to play for his own replacement? Maybe not. So I'm like, you have to figure that out, I guess. But how it would work is like,

all right, so like this week, it basically starts like week 14, 15, 16, and 17, losers bracket. Like this week could be the semifinals. And I even think you could add spreads to it

because, you know, let's say the bottom 10 teams who are eliminated. Yes, because like the Bengals are eliminated from the playoffs. They would probably win this bracket.

So I think they should have apply spreads like in our dynasty league where it's like the teams who are the higher seeds they get they get added points to their to their to their scores to ensure that they have a better chance of winning like the bengals it should have to beat the giants by seven or more in order to win the game but you could but not just for no reason because that for the bengals to leapfrog the giants in the draft order you're saying that the teams is more wins should get have to give yeah and i think fandals should just buy this and sponsor this like it should be like the NBA cup it should be the fan duel

loser's bracket where the fuck it's called and then the actual spreads that fandul applies it should be like all right if it works out where it's bengals giants in the losers bowl championship it'll be bangles minus seven and the bengals have to win by eight in order to get the first pick and if they don't the giants get the first pick this segment was presented by fandul no i'm kidding that was not but i think you don't spot you just spot teams certain amount of points you spot teams because if it gets in balance like you know ideally it's like you know it would be giants raiders battling for first pick but if a team like the car Cardinals who are a little bit better are winning each game. They have to be beating the spreads in order to a game. I think I'll speak for many people listening who are like, you know what, Craig? I like this because I don't think there's enough gambling that's been injected into football recently. I think people are done. It's actually the opposite.

We need more. It's already there. No, I think I'm out on the spreads thing, but I love the idea. I think you're dead on though. But hear me out with the spreads thing. Let's say it's the bottom 10 teams. If you look at that right now, the Bengals qualify. Miami qualifies. Arizona qualifies.

Those teams are just straight up better than the Raiders. I don't think it would be, to me, that would allow the middling teams of the league to always get the first pick, which I don't think it's fair. I think it's simpler to just, I think that's too complicated because I think frankly, I don't think any of those teams should be competing for the first pick. I think the simpler idea that I think you're like really close to, which would be. You could just do the bottom four teams the last two weeks. Yeah, that is like actually something that in like a 10 or 15 year horizon, I actually think the NFL might, do. Like I think there's a world to what you're saying where like right now, if you just look at the standings and frankly, this is every single season. If you just look with two weeks left,

there are always, yeah, so the Giants and Raiders have two wins and then there's like Jets, Titans, Browns, Cardinals have three wins. Every season, generally speaking, kind of looks like that where anybody could end up with the second pick or eighth or whatever. And to me it's really simple. This week, the Giants and Raiders are going to play and the loser will probably get the first pick. And the part of what you're saying that I like is, it should be about winning. The winner of that game should get the first pick. And the losers should get the second pick. Yeah, so you can set it up. So it's like this week, it's, yeah, Giants and Raiders and then, and then it's Jets and Browns. And the winner of those two games play each other in the Toilable Championship next week. You put it on Monday night

because there's no Monday night game on week 18. And it's fucking great. And I think people would watch it and care. However, I think the reason why people could hate that is because I don't know, like, I think, I think you need to expand it to like the bottom eight because all eight teams who suck could technically get the first round. Well, it's like the college football playoff. We could get to 12 teams later. Let's start with like two.

And I just, you know what I mean? I just think that it's really, to me it's like the simplest version of that you start small, you build it out. Honestly, the NFL's never going to have spreads in games. I think that gets into a whole thing.

But I think your other part of this idea. I don't know what that. I think this is super, but I think this is super realistic though, if you just talk about if the final week of the season, the final two teams, because this actually solves a problem for everybody involved, which is the Ted Lassau,

we just play half empty stadiums, listless, meaningless games. Yeah, no one cares about half these teams. Think about, this to me is not crazy. If the final week of the season, the teams have the two worst records played each other, winner gets the first pick, loser gets the second. You're solving a bunch of problems.

Fans now who hate their teams that are rooting against them can now root for their team to win a big game. The players have something to play for, and then, which matters, I think like having literal, like you get to win something, like is nice and it solves stuff for the league because now this game that nobody wants to watch

it is pathetic and like there's tanking questions the teams want to lose now there's no question about who's trying and then also it's a ratings thing they actually people would watch this game winner gets the first pick that that i think works whether i want a tournament where the 10th team can get the first pick that is hard for me to wrap my mind around but i i kind of i don't know i i think that's legit it doesn't make sense that every time the giants lose we're like Kifitz, you should be happy. That's dumb. Yeah, that's stupid.

The Giants should be able to win their way out. Yeah. Honestly, you could probably do it in every sport. Do it in the NBA. You can do it every sport. Like the bottom four, six, eight, whatever. You just do a loser's bracket. The last two weeks of the season.

I agree. NFL's going to do this. I feel good about it. I think it checks a lot of boxes where the NFL needs, other than just the scheduling being perfect right now, but for just simplicity. But yeah. Okay.

Similar to D.K., something kind of like this. You wanted, you want relegation. This is a complicated matter because then you have to have sort of like a lower league. You know, I think the NFL has tried that with partnering with other different like lower leagues and all that stuff. But it hasn't really caught on. I do think it would be different if every year the like worst team just has to go down or whatever to the to the lower league and the other one comes up. Number one, you'd get more variety. You could expand the NFL to more cities, blah, blah, blah.

There's some interesting like variables there. but it does give you the and maybe we combine with Craig's thing where you know we're playing a tournament for the top pick and then that that team does also doesn't have to be relegated anyway I just think it'd be fun like the idea of relegation where there's no penalty honestly for being the worst team in the league it just makes it more interesting and fun will this ever happen no but it is a fun idea I have good news and bad news what do you want first uh the bad news I don't think this is a thing for the NFL can I say the good news yeah I earnestly think this is how college football should work. I think this is the solution to college football. Is that what eventually? So like Alabama will play in the NFL in the year? No, not the NFL. I'm saying there's the power for whatever they're calling on.

We could get answered the question, could the Browns beat Bama? Yeah. And it's like, the fear is that Browns versus Bama and then we send them down to the Big Ten. No, I think that the real answer is that everyone's afraid that they're going to leave these top whatever teams in the Big Ten and SEC are going to leave the NCAA and form their own Super League conference. and it'll be like a table you can't sit at and then everyone's just trying to sit at the table.

And I think the answer is this should be like the Premier League. College football should become like you're like English soccer, which is the top whatever the number is 24, 36, 64, whatever you want to call it. Chip Kelly talked about this like 10 years ago. There should be relegation to the group of five or to whatever the tier has become and you should be able to kicked out. So if the top 36 college football teams, if you're in the bottom four, you go down and you have to win your way up.

how much cooler would it be if James Madison had won their way up and they get to stick around? Like college football is perfect for a relegation system. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. And the revenue sharing and all these questions

that we don't have answers to in college football like this would solve a lot of it. It also gives, yeah, I mean like it's fun for like my alma mater, SDSU. Like they're a solid football program. They're not going to make the college football playoff. And even if they did, they're going to get their ass kick. It'd be fun to be like,

they're in the league below. And every year we're battling to try to get, bumped up into the Premier League. That would be really cool. You get to play all the good teams. Yeah, you get more money that way and then you can like recruit better. Get more prestige.

It's funny, D.K., I know you were kind of joking, but I actually think this would work. I have a question. I think it would work. If for people, okay, I want like English people who have been in soccer their whole life to answer this question. Like, is the, is the Premier League and just basically the like European soccer set up? Is that actually a good thing? Do people like it?

I mean, people like it. Email us. Yeah, emails if you like soccer. No, no, I'm not saying, do you like soccer? I'm saying, is that actually a system that we should strive for or is it absolutely like idiotic maniac thing that just email is done because of tradition and money? At gmail.com. I can already hear Ryan O'Hanlon who we used to work with who is your editor, D.K.

And he was the person explained to me there was a pretty neat correlation between how much much team spends and how good the roster is. Like how much they spend and how much money they make. Right. It's like just an up, it's up into the right. Like the more money you make, the better. It's not like, even baseball, it's like the Mets can spend $350 million and suck. But like generally in soccer, you spend money you make it.

You're going to have a good team. Okay. The next category of rules here I want to do. This is banana ball where I tried to, we were trying to think of if the Savannah bananas actually did football, what would they do? And I asked Jackie's brother this and he just immediately delivered. And Jackie's brother was like, they should allow taunting. Merciless taunting.

Why is that a flag? I know. It's so lame. They muzzle a hell out of these guys on the field You can't even like you can't even point for first down If it looks too much like a gun Yeah, dude standing Who is the guy the other day who's who's flag

Because he just stood over the guy for like half of a second You can't spin a ball in a player's direction I think that was last mine So fucking stupid Troy Akeman was disgusted by that Dude Troy Akeman's like oh not my league How dare you spin a ball at a person Some like safety hit a receiver

and like look down at him for like two seconds. Flag. Dude, you know when this started the really taunting stuff recently crackeddown? Yeah. Well, because the owners, they're all the owners.

They wanted to be fit. Let's not get too deep into it. But they want to keep these people in line. Yes. Let them know who's really in charge? Honestly, yeah. You know what's funny? You know who's essential to a lot of the taunting recent crackdowns?

He's actually John Mera, the Giants owner, who, you know, he's talked about this. He was appalled when I think the Niners Chiefs 2019 season, Tyree Kill,

I forget what's super. rules was there were too many for the chiefs he ran into the end zone he did the peace sign at the defender peace and they were like no place for that now we can't do that no place for that can you imagine and he hated that he was doing the peace sign as he ran by i made the end zone which is funny because that's like now a really memorable moment of yes and you know what else is funny all the taunting if you just look up all the fines you're taunting and just pull up NFL social media all the clips they cut are like yeah the best parts of the week it was all the taunting uh the other one here, DK, you mentioned hockey earlier. You sent in the banana. They should have power plays.

This one. This one is just pure chaos. So obviously in hockey, the power plays, if you have a penalty, one of your players has to go and sit in the penalty box for a given amount of time. It would be hilarious for certain penalties. And it would have to be like really like high fits and saying early, like really egregious clear penalties come down from on top. Maybe they make that call. You have to send one player off and you have to play a man down. And then you could do power plays. I feel like that would be such a fun way to ignite the game. Power play, you know, you're playing 12 on 11 or 11 on 12 or whatever. If it's like unnecessary roughness or unsportsman like conduct after the play or something by some

Deleiman, it's like, all right, great, that de lineman has to sit the next play out and you can't replace them? I love this so much. And can I actually suggest? I actually think this is, I mean, as dumb as it gets pretty realistic for a crazy idea, I think you should get to choose on personal fouls between taking the 15 yards, automatic first down. or you get to do a redo and they get 10 players in the field

and that guy called for it goes off. Or you get one play. What if you get an extra player? You get 12. 12 on 11 is what I was in my head. What's better? 11 on 10 or 13 on 12 on 11? Probably 11 on 10.

Just spacing lines. Well, actually, you know, it's funny. In theory, 11 on 10, in practice, the defense has never, ever, ever practiced for 12 people on the field. And so it might just break everyone's brain. So actually they haven't practiced with 10 either. No, but like shit happens. Like sometimes guys get fall down immediately.

Like shit happens. You know what I mean? You're like, oh, we'll rush three and just hope it works. But 12, there's no scheme for 12. But you know how like in power plays in hockey, it's just such an intense period of time. It's so. It's so exciting because holding your breath. Like the team that's that's down a man is just like in fucking survival mode.

And the other team is pressing. And then sometimes you have, you know, Teams will like go on the fast break during a power play and score like you score when you're a man down like that's the fucking do the Rangers in the semifinals one year score were three on five power play and they scored a goal down down two guys and I was like that's the ultimate that's the ultimate that's the ultimate alpha move power move anyway I just think it's pure chaos it would be really funny it'd be fun maybe this is like an overtime rule or something like that I don't know but I think this is my favorite idea in the entire list because no one talks to honestly the theme of this episode is we should just take all the cool hot shit and Then we can get a fucking penalty box on the sideline. League of Nations. No, not that's different. The Nation's Cup.

League of Nations is different. It really is just like, man, hockey figured it out. Hockey's got this. They let people fight. Like, let's do that.

Yeah, that's, well, I'm going to get to that, Craig. Taunting. Penalty boxes. D.K.

Meckas, you're going to bring the fan. Craig, you're stepping on my frigging rule from. Wait, what was it? What was it? Uh,

there should be at least one player is allowed to punch a fan. Uh, at least once a season. Just to give fans a little bit of fear. You know what I mean? You got to plant that seed. I could get punched in the face by an NFL player if I do this. That right now does not exist.

That fans are too, this is the whole DK. MacK. MacGFD. Fans think they can say whatever the fuck they want. The world would honestly be better if people are always afraid that if they're a dickhead, they might get punched. I could get punched in the face for this. Was it Mike Tyson?

Some old, I think it was a pro fighter. I could be wrong. Someone posted the problem with the internet is people. have gotten too comfortable saying wild shit to people without the threat of being punched in the face. Yeah. 100%. So yeah, Craig, like you're saying, D.K. Metcalf, I don't think people would be talking a lot of shit to D.K. Metcalf. I would never insult a man of your size. But anybody in the NFL is fucking huge for the most part.

Come on. Oh, he just called his first name. Drags them out. You just get, it's like the, you know, the, the, well, there is that spot. I don't even know what this is, the slap sport where the two guys just like slap each other. fucking Dana White game. Is that still going? That should be it. That should be. Every team gets one fan a year.

Maybe maybe to make it a little more politically correct. You get to, that fan has to suit up in a football uniform and then get fucking. No, they wear what they're wearing. That guy with the clown hat at the lion's got to be wearing that shit. And then I think the team gets to vote because that way you'll know if what they happened was legit or they're just like, nah, the player is being a dick. Or like, like, I want the, the team gets to vote on them. fan. They're like, yeah, fuck that guy. We all hate it.

One guy. Everyone gets one. I like that. We're kind of cooking here. So taunting power plays. You can hit one fan a year. This is great. You get one swing. The best idea anyone's had on the show all year. Craig, you said this earlier and I wrote it down in my notes months ago and I found it was you said kickers for field goals should come out of the tunnel like closers in baseball. To walk out music. Hell yes. I actually love it. How sick would that be? Cairo Santos in Chicago They lower the lights Cairo Santos comes running out of the tunnel

They're playing serious by Alan Parsons project He's got to run 50 yards Into the midfield lights are down Everyone's hushed That's incredible I love this idea No why don't they do Why don't they do this?

If the Savannah Benaz did football They would do this The Edwin Diaz like whole production The trumpets Yeah. Harrison Meevis is out of breath by the time he gets there. They're going to take a time out.

Oh my God. Yeah. When we were in Ireland, we were with Bex, who works for Spotify, but she's in the London office. Shout up, to her first NFL game.

And she was kind of like, man, there's so much, like, ridiculous shit going on here. There's like horns and fire. Cannons being filed. It's fucking insane. Pyro-technics everywhere.

Yeah, there's like a band playing. We're not done. Yeah, keep going, man. Walkout music. Okay. I like that. So can I tweak? I have a lot of kicking ideas.

So I think that should be for field goals. Of course. This one I kind of cooked. Someone commented this on something made a month ago. I think whoever scores the touchdown should have to kick the extra point. Yeah. This is like in basketball. If you get fouled, you have to shoot the free throw.

Exactly. And then you can't do hack a shack. So then you're finding the worst kicker on the team and just, I don't know how that works. But yeah. Basically, all that does is then every. day at practice, like most of the players have to practice kicking. Yeah, but I just think it'd be funny. Don't love that. You just have to make

the extra point. Every coach is like, God damn. I don't my receipt. It's like, practice kicking now. Imagine trying to explain this to like Cadarious Tony. We got the worst fucking attorneys. George Pickens. Kidarius Tony, isn't he good at kicking? Or am I thinking of it? He's really good at throwing. He has an incredible arm. Cadarious Tony, there was

a point where Daniel Jones had the third best arm on the New York Giants. Yeah, he had a nice pass once, I remember. Cadarist Tony can throw. Odell could throw. This is why I don't understand why Tacey Hills, the only guy who can throw. Isn't he lefty? Yeah, Tony's lefty, yeah. I think, or O'Dell was lefty. O'Dell's lefty. Oh, yeah, yeah. This is great.

I love this. Yeah. Darnell, Washington, lining up to kick an extra point. This is good. He just fucking crushes it. Do you have to kick it? Can you run a fake? Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Oh, wow. I just thought of if you

don't want to do the thing, then you have to do like an Oklahoma drill as a tournament of champions like the beginning of Troy. You love the Oklahoma drill. I do love the okay. I'm sorry. It's the fucking bad. Have you ever done it?

It's the coolest thing in the world. I did it as a freshman and did not have a good time. How big were you then? Like 126 pounds. Oh, lower my guy. Wow. 110?

Jesus. Winning an Oklahoma drill is like, it's just there's nothing like it. High Fitz likes to do Oklahoma drills on the basketball court. I still think quarterback should have to punt. Yeah. I like that. No specialist.

No, quarterback's the punter. I mean, that's, that is kind of a good segue to my role here. And this is basically like, we watch, we went to Ireland, we watched hurling. It's a combination of a bunch of different sports. But basically they have the, they have a goal post and it's split in two. And so if you bat the ball into the upper part of the goal post, it's like one point. If you hit it, if you manage to hit it into the lower part, it's worth three, right? Is that what it was?

Yeah. And it's basically like there's a soccer goal below. Right. Right. And then on top of the soccer goal is just a goalpost. Right. So we get in order to make kicking more challenging and more exciting because right now, it's just like Craig was saying earlier, it's like 60 year field goals all the time. It's like, what the hell?

Make it split the goalposts into sections. You can start to, you can start to really dial in where you're trying to hit it. And if you get it into a bowl up like into the goal, that's like extra points. But then you got, then you got like defense trying to defend that and they can return it. Could we make it like the doinks? are worth five, but you have to call it like bank. Yeah. It's just like bank and it doesn't care.

There was an epic doyink in the Monday night game this week. I think he hit it, the kicker hit it from like 60 yards or something like that and just hit the crossbar. Just the most satisfying doink. Imagine this. We completely eliminate the goalposts and it's now a giant dartboard and the football sticks to it. Oh, I like that.

Velcroes to the dartboard. Now we're talking. Now we are fucking cooking You have in the middle There's the tiny You know the tiniest bullseys like seven You replace K balls And then outside of that it's one

You replace the K balls with Velcro balls Yeah That's good Yeah That's good Or it like goes through it You know like a bullet And you can see the whole

Yeah like like like those things in the movies With the cops that shit Like the little outline to the guys And it's like yeah It's like And it's like are you gonna hit the ring of three The bulls eye of seven Or the outside of this

I like this We'll test this the pro ball and then we'll see it for the real season. The other one I like is if we keep the goalpost, I like the idea that, because now we have these longer kicks, you can make them from distance, right? So like they're kind of going skirt,

like these 65-year kicks are kind of skirting through. I think you should be able to block them. Like Mike Evans should be, I want Mike Evans in the end zone instead of just guys there to return if it's short. They should be able to jump up and rob it like a center fielder. Goaltending. Yeah, literally you should be able to goaltend.

Like if it should be low enough, that's the other answer to the field goal thing. We're like, well, these guys are making it from too long away. Like, I want, I want Mike Evans and Tenaroa McMillan out there, like batting passes. Hear me out. What if each team gets a designated skeet shooter and they got one shot at the ball as it's being kicked?

You want to revive Carson Wentz's career? How sick would that be? Skeet shoots. And they go pull. Everybody gets the deck. There's a camera on the guy and he gets to try to shoot the ball one time and knock it down. But the first downs are still. Just with his pistol.

But it's still a flag if you like do the air guns for the first down But you do get a guy with a shotgun there Yeah like if you celebrate the ski shooting with a gun motion It's a flag that's a flag that that's an audit Because we're not trying to glorify it yeah How sick would that be if you could shoot the ball down It's pretty good It's like duck hunt yeah exactly

Dude that would be sick That would open up a difference that would give a various players The careers back you know Yeah Certain guys might be able to return We could bring some veterans in on our veterans. Maybe on veteran. Maybe it's just a Veterans Day thing.

We just do the flyover. Yeah. Box pirate ship. That's a huge thing. The flyovers now they release balls. And if the ball goes through the uprights. Oh. All right.

That's how the game starts. The ball gets dropped in the middle of the field and it's a scrum to try to get it. Well, that was the ex-fell. They did that instead the coin toss. They did the, they threw the ball and they were like to fight over it. Yeah. Oh, did they like, It's like dodgeball?

Yeah, they'd have run 50 yards and grab it from each other and fight over it, which is like a real drill. Jesus. I didn't even know that. Oh, man. That's planes for flying over. It's insane. I'm not even mad. I'm impressed.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Emails at ringer fantasy football at Gmail.com. More rules you want addressed. I got to tell you, I think the hockey stuff, those three hockey ideas, emergency quarterbacks, power plays instead of the 15 yards. And then, um, do what was the other hockey? They can fight. Oh, yeah, they get fight and taunt it.

great okay cool uh emails at ranger fantasy football at gmail.com if you have other rules you want to add it to the NFL uh okay and then email us soccer fans if you want to be like the premier league's a mistake but i like it uh ringer fantasy football league update chris and maller in the final uh dk and i first round by shit the bedestating performance on on both of our parts is there a better summation of fantasy football than danny kelly and i and you we spend hundreds of hours talking about 50 football every week and Chris Ryan who wasn't at the draft. And did not draft his team did not spend one dollar of his way for money. I'm not even sure he knew that he could.

Yeah made three moves all year and he's in the finals. Also Chris was in last or tied for last for like six weeks. Yeah. Dude, they're both, Mal and Chris were both six and eight this year. They were not actually in the playoffs. This is like the end of the season. Meeting the Saints. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is like the under 500 division winner makes the Super Bowl. Yeah. Devastating.

Yeah. This is the dumbest thing we do. Redemption for Tate. Redemption for Tate. We made fun of Tate so much for drafting Chris's team and now he's in the finals. Which honestly is a thing to remember. Shout out Tate. Has Chris like added or dropped anybody?

Is he just spending $0 on them? I think he added a defense when they were on buying a kicker when they were on by. And that was literally. So he is the same roster that he drafted week one. Tate is a fucking visionary. He had it a tight. end a defense and a kicker and beat the shit out of us. He's got the same team.

Dude, nobody got hurt. Nobody got hurt. Like he got the mirror is the real NFL Craig. It's the healthiest team wins. He has Jemir Gibbs and then the rest of the team. Honestly, it's a perfect example. You look at the team and you're like, what happened here?

His receivers are like Zay Flowers, A.J. Brown, Keenan Allen. And you're like, okay, yeah, that team's not going to make it. He's Gibbs and Kiron Williams. He has Travis Kelsey, DJ Moore, all these guys where you're like, there's no way this worked. He had Devante Adams who was great. He's T.J. Hawkinson, who he never even cut T.J. Hawkinson.

He said T.J. He's the only guy he added, was Hawkinson. He always believed in him. He's a glue guy. He still has Matthew Golden. Glue guy. Oh, that's really sad. It's kind of like us winning Ringer 107, despite not having any gambling expertise and not trying.

It is exactly like that. There's a lesson in all of this. If only we can find it. Okay. Here's the lesson. The NFL needs lines. for every game. Handicaps.

That's the lesson. All right. Before one second song challenge, another shenanigans, what do you, fantasy court? Sure. Let's do it.

Oh, yeah. Definitely don't tell anyone about this thing that you're doing. I don't really want to be handcuffed. The definition of an object is a material thing that can be... The definition of an object.

Okay. This is fantasy court case. Here is from Mickey. Mickey. Mickey. Embon. Cut me, Mick. Michael.

Mickey writes, my college league is in its 17th season and we've had unprecedented levels of apathy and disrespect for the law. We've had a last place

punishment in place in this league for years and years and some past ones have included a guy living in Singapore had to take the SATs at a high school. Someone documented a weekend at a sad Airbnb

in a random one street, Colorado town. Someone had to run a tough mutter dressed like they were in the God squad from Reches Jemson. stones. Oh my gosh. And then 2023 season someone slacked

on their punishment of drawing caricatures of strangers in a public park and then they were threatened with a point's deduction midway through the season until they did it. So that's pretty legit. Wow. Was there like yeah horrific? And Mickey writes, mind you, this is a co-ed league filled mostly with couples in early 30s, almost all of them

have one or more young kids now. So the 2024 punishment last season's punishment was the loser had to create, build and design or I guess it's more design, create and build a first and last place trophy for the league. Wow, tremendous looking trophies. I think that's pretty tame compared to the other ones.

Oh, that's easy as hell. Way easier. Yeah. It's like money, but it's not embarrassing or effort. Yeah. So while it has been light, so the 2024 loser has still not produced any trophies. Obviously, they've had like 11 months. And while it has been lightly called out all year, the drumbeat has this week hit a fever pitch and the league is out for blood.

And fast track to today, this is the week of Christmas, the guy not making the trophies is going to be in our championship for this season. He's not made any of the trophies. And for no reason other than he claims he's overcomplicating it to make it cool, even though he told us about this at the draft and he said, just make something and get it done. The people now want some kind of penalty because it would be really fucked for the league champ to owe everyone punishment from the year before.

So they want to know what to do about this. point deductions that would go back and alter the results of the season seem too punitive to take him out of the finals basically. The commissioners made a decree that he will deduct 40 points from this guy in week one of 2026 and there will be an ongoing weekly 40 point deduction for all punishment Dodgers going forward. So every week you don't do it, you lose 40 points in that matchup. Someone else suggested that after a certain date in the off season, you have a deadline to get it done. And after that date, someone else can do your punishment for you and then they get your first round pick. Okay. Which is, I've never heard before, but it's really funny.

The 2025 punishment, this year's punishment, is that the losers eat nothing but unseasoned ground beef for lunch and dinner for an entire week. And hence the name of the subject line of this email is fantasy court. That's kind of a dream. That's so lean. Dude, that's pretty good, you know. So you're just going to enter ketosis for a week? Sounds good to me.

So the emailer Mickey says he thinks that the winner of this league, in addition to designing the trophies, should also have, even if they win, have to do the beef week on season ground beef punishment. And beef week. Beef week. Beef week. So they want to know fantasy court. How do you think this should be solved? What?

And I think there's two questions. How do you resolve this winner situation? How do you prevent this going forward? But, DK, what do you, Chief Justice here? What do you think? So sorry, the question is, how do they get him to make the trophies ASAP? No, it's what do they do? How should this be handled that the winner of the league maybe this year?

The guy in the championship hasn't made. How should they punish him? What should the punishment be? Well, I think if I was, if I was running this league, I would say, I'm detecting five points from your fantasy finals score every day until the fucking trophies get done. I don't like just fucking do it. Go to go to goodwill and buy some trophies. It takes 10 minutes. It's the holidays.

I don't like meddling with the championship week. Craig is so lenient. I don't know. I'm like, it's like. He's like, you're traveling, your in-laws, you're like kids. So much for tough on crime, Craig. All of them have, right? I think I like, I mean, like, subtracting 40 points from your score every week is quite severe.

But I think that would actually get you to do something. You know, I'm fine with like deducting or like revoking your first round pick or deducting 40 points. I think stuff like that's good. I think he has to do, I think this person has to do the ground beef thing. Yeah, that's fair. And in addition to make the trophies. How are they going to police that, though? He hasn't made the fucking trophies.

He's not going to eat the fucking beef. Well, then, but you have to, that's the thing. You have to pair it with one of these other rules. Either after a certain date, the thing of I can just do your punishment and I get your first rounder is really funny. I think the real answer, you probably deduct 40 points every week until they, you know, but it's funnier to have someone else steal your pick. That's hilarious.

I think he should do the ground beef, even though he probably won't. And then I don't know what you, because then we're going to get another email in three weeks being like he didn't do the ground beef thing either now you combine it with the 40 points thing so he would lose 40 points every week of next season you don't do the punishment so basically you're losing every week you just get what it again so every week he doesn't build the trophies or eat the ground beef he did that gets deducted 40 points for either of those so it could be 80 points per yes bingo yeah i like that make it impossible for him to win a fucking game if he doesn't do that i think dk is the right i'm leaning with dk i think five points every day until he gets the fucking trophies

this week Christmas week? Yeah, he's had fucking a year. He, like, he came in last place 51 weeks ago. I don't know what that. You know what an issue is? It's the easiest punishment they've ever had. It's a trophy.

It's too easy. It's why he put it off. I do get that. Go to Michael. How about we start on the 26th, Craig? So it's just Friday, Saturday? Yeah. And we can deduct 10 points per day.

These fucking trophies are getting made before Sunday, pal. He's got to make these. Over the holiday. You can slap a sticker on it. He can go to crafts. Yeah. What if he's flying to a different coast? That's what the first 50 weeks of the year were for.

These rules aren't designed to be convenient. I disagree. I don't care. Remember that time Jordan Addis was like, pick your four months in prison and like, you know, it's just, you know, through the DUI. They're like, yeah, I just pick whatever months you want. Craig's just, you know, it's like you have a certain amount of time. You've a window here. In the spirit of Christmas, I'm going to give them four days.

That's all. No, write it in your dissent. Right about it on your blog. Before we move on, we get this question a lot. It's not the most interesting, but I think people talk about this a lot. We don't talk about it a lot. What do you guys think of people who are out of the playoffs

making waiver-wire transactions while they're people in the championship? Just depends on the type of link you're in. Is there a toilet bowl? Yeah. Let's say it's a redraft league and it's not toilet bowl or championship. People are just adding players. That's weird. I think that should be locked and not allowed.

What about toilet ball? I think anything is allowed then. You try not to get last. Yeah. Yeah, I'm in lockstep with you guys. but if someone adds Michael Carter and they're just in fifth. I think the idea of adding players so other people can't get them, even though your team isn't actually doing anything, it's dumb.

But is it a gentleman's agreement and they violated that or is it like a rule? Should be a rule, I think. Like if you're in a meaningless fifth place game and there's no prize for that, roster should lock. Is it bad? It's the, you know, the hangover masturbating on an airplane. It's not legal. It's just frowned upon.

I think it's illegal. Oh, thanks, Pidlaw. I think it should be illegal just so there's not more work to be done after the crime is committed. That way, if it's a rule, then you know that it's a transgression rather than like, oh, we get a fantasy court next week. That's like, the guy in fifth added Michael Carter, but we never talked about it. Like, it should just be a rule. Yeah.

I think you have to turn it from frowned upon to a rule. But toilet bowl, you should be able to make ads. Like, if there's stakes. All right, we have a very special, very special segment here. We are going to do the one second song challenge Christmas edition. For those who don't know, this kind of spurned from us, having an argument about what are the most instantly recognizable songs ever, which led to what are songs you could literally identify in one second,

which led to us trying to compete, which has led to, I actually don't even know how many iterations of this we've done. I think this is the fourth. I think all of us have hosted it, right? Yeah. This might be the fifth. I think I've gone up against DK twice and up against high fits once.

Maybe. And I went up against high fits once. So this is the Christmas version. And again, if you want emails for your fancy football at gmail.com, I will send you the original one second song challenge playlist. It's very fun to play this with your friends and family of the holidays. So if you want, Christmas one, this is a special Christmas edition.

And yeah, emails to ring your fantasy football at Gmail.com. I'll send you that playlist. Christmas songs here. Everyone knows Christmas songs. I feel like almost the point of a Christmas song is like, you know it, but you have no idea what it's called or who sings it. Exactly. Which is why this is funnier.

We could get like legit zero of these and it would be that surprising. But I'll know the song. Yeah. So here. So should we do a test here just so people understand the bit? So basically it's, if it's, you make it a drinking game. It's really good too, where it's basically you play one second of the song and someone buzzes in. And then whoever buzzes first, you get to guess the name of the song and the artist.

And if you're making this a drinking game at home, if you get those right, you give a drink for the name of the song, give a drink for the name of the artist. And if you're wrong, you take a drink, take a drink. So you can do one and you can split it one and one if you want. So here, I just says we have a little buzzer system for all the people who yelled at us about it, not liking more. We just yell buzz. We actually have a buzzer. Shout out to Benton, who emailed us a little website. Evo.

going to use to actually have a buzzer system for once, you know, we're getting big time here. So you guys want to do a test one here just to just to get the kinks out? Sure. No. Okay. I like to go running without exercise or without warming up. Okay. Did you go with like deep cuts?

Did you try to go real popular? What was your strategy? I'm not telling you, but they're not deep cuts. Okay. You'll know all this. So you'll know all the songs here. We'll just do it. This is not a Christmas song.

It's just a little test here. All right. So, D.K. You buzzed in first. It's Eminem. Tick-T-T-T-T-T-T. My name is. My name is. Nope, wrong. Oh, that we did this before, I feel. Craig? The song is real slim, real slim shady.

Yeah. So that would be one point to DK. One point to Craig. Okay. So now we're going to go Christmas edition. And here's the deal. I've decided. That's not a Christmas song?

Well, it could be. It's like diehard. Yeah. I made the executive decision that because Christmas music I was making the list, it was like, you know, you might not know these artists who makes what song. I will, if you cannot name the artist, you need to sing some of the song. And if you sing it with gusto by my sole subjective decision of how hard you're trying to sing, I will award you a point if you can't name the artist. Yes, Craig. Is this a humiliation ritual?

Or is it to show that you actually know the song? It's to show that you know some of the song. And I want you to try. It doesn't have to be good, but I want you to actually sing. And I want to show, like why do we do this to ourselves uh i don't know people like humiliation for content i can't explain christ okay this is the trivia honestly the hardest part's gonna be me uh primus all right so you guys ready sure all right let's do it okay merry christmas craig merry christmas krague mary christmas danny all right first song on the docket you guys ready yeah yeah sure correct the song the song is jing Bingle Bell Rock.

Correct. And I think the artist is Helms, something Helms? Correct. Yes, Bobby Helms. I'll give it to you. That was a buzzer-beater? Okay, I'm officially fucked. Have Crane got that one? I'm fucked.

Dick has just been complaining. I don't know Christmas music. To be clear, I wasn't complaining. I'm just stating for the record. I don't know any Christmas music at all. But you knew that song. I knew the song. I've never even heard of Eddie.

Helms or whoever was. Bobby Helms. Bobby Helms. I haven't either. I think he was kind of around with Cloyce. Yeah, he was a big, him and Cloice box were partying. I would have gotten Jingle Bell Rock. I did buzz in.

Okay. Yeah, you lost. Okay. All right. Next up here. You guys ready? Yeah. Yeah.

Craig. Mariah Carey. Fuck. You fucking got that? All I want for Christmas is you. Yeah. Oh, D.K. That's my, all right.

I mean, I thought I buzzed fast on that. Okay. That's tough. All right. I can't buzz. Oh, I fucked it up. I fucked up the buzzer that time. DeK, I'm giving it to DK.

DK. Um, last Christmas. I don't know what the name of the song. Last Christmas I gave you my heart. And it's, uh, George Michael. Oh, wrong. Craig. Wham, Wham.

Wham. Wow. He was in Wham though, right? Oh, I kind of. He was the lead guy. I'm going to give it to me. I'm giving it to me. Christmas.

That's horses shit. If you, if I name the Beatles, And you're like, fucking, if you say John Lennon, that's not wrong. Well, George Michael had a solo career. No, I'm giving it to DK. Maybe I'm literally wrong, but spiritually, that's, like, that's not a wrong answer. He's literally the guy singing. That's, I'm giving it to DK.

I'm going to need it, Craig. No, I'm, he named the guy who's singing the words. That's not wrong. Come on. All right. Well, I got, I got two cheat points there because I buzzed in really quickly as soon as he refreshed it. Now, you got to refresh it.

So, let me ask you this. Yeah. I don't know if you're going to play. play it. John Lennon has a Christmas song called Happy Christmas War is Over. If I said the Beatles, is that fine? That is less right than naming the lead singer of a band. That's for whatever reason. I think that is similar argument, but John Lennon is unambiguously in the Beatles, but the Beatles are not necessarily in John Lennon, if that makes sense. So just to be clear, if you played that song and I said the Beatles that, that, or I said, oh, I see, I see it. Here's the deal. That guy was talking.

Come on. Here's the deal. I want to, I'm actually. taking my point away because I cheated anyway. I hit the buzz button. No, I'm, no. I'm giving D.K. I am decided here. You're like that kid in the basketball commercial. It's like, hey, coach, I touched it.

Went under bounds. Shut up. Win the game. All right. Okay. Win the game. What are we talking about? You fucked up the buzzer and gave him a guess.

Yeah. And I'm taking the, I am deciding. I'm the sky right. All right. You guys, next song. Have you're a second. Come on. All right, Craig.

have yourself a Merry Little Christmas by Frank Sinatra? Yes, that is correct. Old Blue Eyes himself. Yeah. Ted Lasson just was like, oh, I'm trying to think old Blue Eyes. Mercurial personality. All right. Next up here.

White, no. Wait, did Craig win? I think D.K. won that one. Oh, that's on me. That's on me. Sorry. DK? I don't know.

Craig, you go. I Chas nuts roasting On an open fire I'll give you a point for that And I'll give you two seconds Knipping as your nose I'll give Craig one point for singing

I don't know the name of that song I'm ending the window to guess is over But if you guys want to keep going you can go But I'll give Craig one point That's the end of the round But do you want to try It's Nat King Cole Oh yeah

Yeah And it's the Christmas song But it's one of those where there's like parentheses. It's called the Christmas song. It's called the Christmas song slash Merry Christmas to. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

All right. Next song here. Craig buzzed. Go ahead. I believe that is Bruce Springsteen. Correct. And it's Santa Claus is coming to town. Correct.

Okay. I was right. I told you. I told you. You know what's so funny? You know what, D.K. When you kept saying, I'm not going to know Christmas music. When we discussed that, you never at any point mentioned you don't even own any Christmas clothing,

which I think would have really painted the portrait that we were kind of rolling for. DK.'s just listening to jazz still right now on December 23rd. D.K., are you, do you listen to Christmas music or no? I do not. What happens? I guess I just don't have the Christmas spirit, Craig. Why? Was that always a thing or did you start?

Why are you guilt-tripping me about this? I just never had it. I don't know. Do you not like it? No, I do like it. I just don't. So you're telling me, like, like tonight cooking dinner whatever

you wouldn't just throw on a Christmas playlist the Christmas playlist that we play and I apologize if we're stepping on this for later is the Peanuts Christmas album which and I'm going to be honest I don't know the name of the band that does that I don't even think that is a game it's peanuts well I have bad news because

oh yeah yeah Craig buzzed in first god damn it because my fucking hand was not on the buzzer you didn't I'm giving actually Craig you've no chance you have no fucking chance it's not just like the peanuts band

believe it or not it's not I kept it in but this is the most unfair one but I'm hoping Dekin again you can't even sing it no it's is the name of the song a Charlie Brown Christmas uh man what is the name of the song

of the song. That is that, you know, it's so funny. I'm here on Spotify, we're company men. That's not naming the song. But if you look at the thing, that is in fact the actual words flastered on my phone. So I kind of want to give him the point there. Can you name the guy? Well, you just showed it to me. Oh, well, you did you read it? Thomas Garaldi trio. Oh, Vincent. I'll give you one. Vincent. I saw Garaldi or Geraldi. So he didn't get the name of the song right. And then you gave him the name of the band. Yeah, but I didn't really something She hated Christmas when I forced him to do this. Turns out Craig.

Craig doesn't like it when the host puts his thumb on the on the what is happening here. It's the Christmas spirit, Craig. I didn't realize he didn't own any goddamn Christmas clothing when I told them to do a Christmas challenge. I told you six or seven times I know zero Christmas music. Oh, stop. You just named you knew the peanut. This is the honest.

And I didn't know it. I didn't take you literally. I just thought you didn't know the names of bands like Christmas. You know the Christmas songs. He's known all these ones. I just buzzed it for me. Craig. It's like the Hawaiian, Malikaliki Laka is a thing to say, right?

Yes, that is, that is the, you're right about the song. Can you get, can you get the Hawaiian name of the song? Do you know who sang it? No. D.K.? Les Paul? No. Then I don't know.

Craig, I'll give you the last chance to sing. Malikaliki Laka is a thing to say when a, nah, nah, no, Christmas day. that's the island reason that I give to you. All right, that is good. That is enough of the song to overcome the fact that it's Mali Kalikimaka, but you really did, you did keep going there. So I'm going to give you one point on that. That's pretty good.

I did say Melikiliki Makka. Yes, eventually. We got there. I mean, like a couple letters. Sort of. My God. Close enough. If I don't get that.

It's one of them like, did you get it close enough that you could auto-correct it? You know, sometimes you just have to spell it close enough and you get there. So, all right. Wait, wait, who sings it? Craig. run run Rudolph correct um that's by what fucking uh chuck chuck uh why am i blanking on this chuck barry sorry yes correct okay this is a super fun game what is that no i'm fine i'm just uh i actually know less than i thought which is you do that

shocking no i didn't know that song wait play hyvitz play like five seconds of that song you don't know that run run rudolph no no no okay yeah i guess i would recognize that all right well next up here that one you know what that one's it's here comes santa claus it's like oh there come santa claus i don't like that song wait did you did no one by buzzed oh you did fuck oh sorry you got you got to pay attention to the buzzer thing oh sorry i did you're right this is the system of created well did you know that honor system would you have known that i would have known here comes santa claus well i didn't say the name do you know who did it no i have no i have can you can you sing it here come santa claus here come santa claus right down santa claus lane

that is what i was looking for was the street dude staclaz lane is the name of the song no i just i wanted you to sing enough of the song that i felt like you use the song okay okay wait wait wait why One point. One point. Because instead of, in lieu of the name of the guy, he's saying the song. But I feel like if you know the name of the song, it's easy to sing the song. Well, yeah. It is indeed.

So you shouldn't get double the points. It's the same. If you only know the artist, but you can also sing the song to me, then you get two points. Craig, you're up 12 to five. Yeah, Craig. There's no way I'm winning this. It's not that funny. It's, it's.

DK. I didn't buzz. Fuck, I was lying because I buzzed. I did the buzzer wrong. Okay, Craig. Santa Baby? Yes. This is the hardest name in the thing.

I would suggest you sing. Again, I don't think I should get a point of it. Santa Baby, slip a Rolex under the tree for me. Yeah. I've been an awful good guy. It's good. Eartha Kit was the singer.

Oh, shit. Eartha Kit. She's super famous. Earth a Kit is a legend. I can't stress it up. How much better Craig is at this than me? One more time. Craig, did you get it?

High Fitz, you have to tell us who won the buzz and don't lie. Craig got it. I believe it's let it snow. Yes. Dean Martin? Yes. Oh, the weather outside is frightful or ing? Frightful.

Frightful. Because the fire is so delightful. Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow. I knew that one. and I would have guessed Dean Martin because that's just my guess for everyone. Just keep going. All right, this is an important one, guys.

Lock in. Craig buzzed. Holly jolly Christmas? Yes. Boublee? Yes. Oh. Surkai.

I'm glad we got that one. And by we, I mean Craig. I'm kind of Mr. Christmas. You really are. Yeah, this is, this is where I, I'm Jewish and I think I could have competed. Maybe next time you guys will listen to me. I, yeah, probably. All right. Next one here.

Craig again. Yeah, I didn't even buzz. Oh, I'm blanking. I need to hear that again. Damn it. Three, two, one. You can go to D.K. I don't know.

The Beach Boys? No. Can we do it again? Oh my God, I know it. Don't tell me. I'll be clear. I have no idea. I have never heard that song about life.

You're gonna be mad. Can I can you give me two seconds or no? Give him two. Come on. I know the horns. I know the horns. Fuck, what is it? Felice Navidad.

Oh, that does make sense. Jose Feliciano, baby. Felice Navidad. All right. I'll do one more here because this is just a brutal, brutal. I'm embarrassed. All right. You got to reset the buzzer.

Yeah, let me. All right. Last one here. This one's worth 20 points. Winner. Winter tick all. D.K. Just buzzed in.

Elvis Presley. Yes. Are you fucking serious? Yes. I mean. The guy going, ho. I don't know.

The name of the song. Santa Claus. No, it's blue Christmas. No, I don't. I've never heard that song. Okay. Tika gets 10 and still loses, actually. Because Greg gets water.

That's still, okay, there you go. Craig walks away at the winner of the Christmas One Second Song Challenge. And we all know that was competitive, guys. You didn't even play my favorite Christmas song. I left them off. What is your favorite Christmas song? Rocking around the Christmas tree by Brenda Lee. Oh, I skipped that to go to the Charlie Brown one because I thought it was funny.

Yes, I did have that one on. That one honestly is maybe the most of them all, actually. I had that right in front of the Charlie Brown one. But yeah, that's the Brenda Lee song. Oh, number one. Rockin around The Christmas tree You know fantastic

Christmas soundtrack is home alone SNL just did that That was goddamn All right One second song challenge Email so ringer fancy football Gmail.com If you want that playlist

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I apologize DK's Christmas music knowledge matches His current color palette today Which DK you were right millennial gray dk can you do you have one homework assignment and it's i'm going to send you a christmas playlist and you have to listen to the whole thing this week all right it is

don't you have to eat ground beef for a week straight okay that's true we just draw uh kreg send send me send me the christmas spirit okay i need some of yours i do fucking love christmas ringer 107 this week's ringer 107 is presented by fandle 17 weeks in boys and we are still somehow and we're fucking hanging on and i'm fucking hanging on and i I know people probably help setting their lineups to their championships and everything. But honestly, we're recording this Tuesday afternoon. It's like the injury reports. It's games Thursday and Saturday and Sunday and Monday.

And I'm like, we can try to help you on social and everything and DM us and Instagram or emails. But we'll set rankings and everything. But it's going to be, frankly, I don't think we're going to give like cutting edge analysis right now on Tuesday when you're going to have questions like five days, six days from now. So we're going to make our picks. Godspeed if you're in the championship. Are there any lines that stand out to you guys? Yes, six of them. Phenomenal.

I think we could bet the favorites in every single Christmas Day game. You have Dallas favored by seven points against Josh Johnson. Marriota, I don't think he's going to play. It's Detroit minus seven against Max Brosmer.

And then the night game, the Broncos minus 12 and a half versus Chris Ola Dukin. I'm like, so here's those thinking, you can parlay all those money lines together and it's minus 110. No, let's just do the Broncos minus 12 and a half versus Ola Dukin.

He's like, they barely played football. You want to do all three of those? I kind of like all three. Just all the favorites to win on. Dallas minus seven versus Josh Johnson. Detroit minus seven versus Max Brosmer. Honestly,

I kind of am okay. I already had lions and broncos circled. So I'm down for. The Washington one I like the Cowboys one I like the least. But what are the other ones? I mean, Texans Chargers. The other ones I like are I like the Packers minus two and a half versus Baltimore. I think Baltimore gave up.

I think Lamar's hurt. Isaiah likely is talking about how. there. What do he say? We ass is fuck. I'm just like... I have a rule. When players say we ass as fuck, then I bet against them. If this line is still at less than a field goal, it's at minus two and a half. Like the Packers just came off a loss.

Is Malik Willis playing or is Jordan Love playing? Or either of them playing. Yeah, let's not do that. We can't bet if we don't... If Jordan Love misses this game, I don't want to bet on... All right. All right, that's fair. Okay, the other one I was thinking about, the Bucks minus five and a half playing the Dolphins. Sold. Quinn, you were sold.

Right. I'm just like, the Bucks also. also still have a division title to play for. The game's in Miami, but it's like, Miami's running the ball well. Maybe Miami wins the game outright. The bucks are injured, but I just don't. Yeah, I'll just take quid. Tampa Bay. They're also in Florida. They can fucking handle it. It's not really. And then the other one I have was the Patriots

minus 12 and a half first the fucking jets. I had the Patriots on there. Yep. Wait, so are we going to break our record? Because like two weeks ago, we bet we laid 58 points and we went four and one. And so this week we'd be doing nearly like 42. So we had Broncos giving 12 and a half, Cowboys giving seven lines giving seven. bucks giving five and a half Patriots giving 12 and a half.

The only one I'd swap out, Cowboys giving seven up for the Texans getting points versus the Chargers and their fifth string tackles. I know they just played the Raiders, but part of them wants to throw the game out. Why? I think great defenses respond. I think frankly sometimes that like I think the Texans just kind of laagat because they thought they'd roll the Raiders. You feel more confident that the Texans are going to cover against a playoff

Chargers team than the Cowboys can beat Josh Johnson by seven? I guess we can do the Cowboys. I like the Cowboys wine. Yeah. All right, fine. So we'll do those five. So Lions, but Broncos, Cowboys, Bucks Patriots, giving 42 points combined. Well, I know.

That's like 44 points for Lange. Well, Hyphids, why are you nervous about Josh Johnson being competent? I just the Cowboys are just a weird team. But no, screw it. Let's do it. I think we're going to, you know, five and a week. I like this. Let's do it.

I mean, it's just all favorites. But I'm like, I don't know. This is the time of year where I'm like, we're in losers bracket territory. The Army is like Giants getting important in half. I just feel like the Giants could win this game and the Giants are going to cost themselves. Oh, really? Well, I know.

I guess I want to hope for that. But no, let's go with these five. I like these five. Yeah. I mean, the Giants are are underdogs by a point in a half. Yeah. Against the fucking Raiders. Pretty pathetic.

All right, let's do these five. Pat's bucks. We're also doing the quarterback. So yeah, it's the quarterback. So it's golf against Brozmer. It's Boe-Nix against a lot of con. We are betting against Brady Cook, Quinn Ewer's, Chris Ola-Dukean,

Max Brosmer and Josh Johnson. Yeah, let's not overthink it. I'm doing that. That's erotic. Yeah, that is pretty. It's pretty great. All right. Today's Ringer 107

is brought to you by Fandall Odd's subject to change. All right. Anything else goes to want to do Christmas everything? I also want to shout the Giants defensive line coach had his prostate cancer and he was like, get checked.

And yeah, so man, if you're listening, get your asses checked if you're of a certain age. Do it. It's very treatable. Yeah. Merry Christmas. Thank you to everyone who's been with us all year. Merry Christmas.

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shout out to carlose and shout out to kam and shout out to austin and thank you ronic everyone has helped us this season. And, of course. Thank you, Lauren. Lauren. Thank you, Judy Garland. I don't know. I clearly don't know much Christmas music.

But thank you, Craig. Craig sent me his Christmas mix. Yeah. I cannot wait to look at this. I made that with my bare hands. I love a good mix. I'm not going to lie. I wish that mixes were more popular saying to share with each other.

It was fun when you used to burn people's knees. People don't do it as much anymore, I feel like. You can just find random mixes online. Where's the soul in that? Does Judy Garland have popular Christmas songs? Or did you just pick her because her name is Garland? She has Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas. I don't think I knew that she's saying Christmas songs.

I'm not going to lie. She has an incredible Christmas song. It's an incredible Christmas song. Which one? It's Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas. It's Jackie's favorite Christmas song is Judy Garland. Hi, if it wasn't listening to me. Fire it up.

Yeah. It's pretty great. Okay. All right. Thank you to everyone. And yeah, Merry Christmas. Goodbye, everyone.