The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking Our Favorite Bets of the 2024 Season
Episode Date: September 4, 2024Welcome to another season of Power Hour! Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck rank something fantasy football or NFL related every Wednesday throughout the regular season. The guys kick off ...this season’s first Power Hour by power ranking their favorite season-long bets (1:03). Later, they pick their Super Bowl winners ahead of the season …with a twist (31:47). “You guys want to do some emails?” (46:00) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Khalil Mack, Chargers LB (2:31) Gus Edwards, Chargers RB; Anthony Richardson, Colts QB; and Raheem Mostert, Dolphins RB (5:09) Taysom Hill, Saints QB/TE (11:05) Cooper Kupp, Rams WR (13:45) Tyreek Hill, Dolphins WR (15:48) Jayden Daniels, Commanders QB (18:04) Pittsburgh Steelers (20:28) Jared Goff, Lions QB (23:54) Jordan Love, Packers QB (26:05) Matt LaFleur, Packers HC (28:07) Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producer: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Football show, my name is Danny Hypertz.
I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Boral Beckett.
And today it is power hour every Wednesday.
We power rank something.
And today we heard power ranking, our favorite bets entering the NFL season.
These are our favorite bets.
We went through hundreds, thousands.
I don't know how many you guys went through.
I went through a lot.
We're all submitted our three or four favorite.
And if you don't know how this works, Dekin and Craig sent me their favorite bets.
I power rank them today.
So if you have a problem with the order of these, you can blame me.
And again, if this is your first time, we're going to do this power hour style.
So we're going to each top, each one that comes up, each bet, we're going to put two minutes on the clock.
And after two minutes, you're going to hear this sound.
Tom Tom, Tom's back.
Tom's back.
Great song.
Incredible song.
We're going to get into it.
Just as a reminder, we're doing four episodes a week during the season.
So stick with us for Friday episodes, previewing every weekend, Sunday recaps and
Sunday nights, Monday, waiver shows.
We do trivia.
And power hours every Wednesday, buddy.
All right.
So we're going to just, we'll just get going here.
So power ranking as in, so number one on this list is your favorite bet out of all of the best that the three of us have submitted.
And in typical nepotism fashion, I picked one of my own.
So I will start here because this bet is my favorite bet of the entire NFL season.
Start the timer.
And again, yeah, start the, and again, these are more fun.
Like, they're fun.
I don't know if they're going to work.
But here's the deal.
My favorite bet.
So the idea is not to make money.
Well, you know, the money is the friends you make along the way.
Do you want people to follow your bet or not?
I mean, yes, I do, but you might lose.
Okay, restart the timer.
These are on Fandall, by the way, these bets.
Yeah, Fandall.
All these bets are on Fandall.
My favorite bet of the 2024 NFL season,
Chargers, Edge Rush, Kille, Mac to win defensive player of the year is 100 to 1.
Wow.
On Fandle.
This does not make any sense.
Now, I know what you're thinking.
Wow, 100 to 1.
Kaleel Mack must be washed.
Actually, Killeelmaq had the most sacks of his career last season.
What was it, 17?
Yes.
He was two sacks off leading the NFL in sex last year, and he's 100 to 1.
Where was he in the defensive player of the year voting last year?
10th.
He got a vote, but that's because no one was paying attention to the Chargers because the Chargers sucked.
But now the Chargers have Jim Harbaugh.
Everyone's going to be paying attention.
They're going to have way more prime time games.
And also there's a media overcorrection of this.
Everyone's like, oh, wow, we totally ignored.
Kaleel Mack was good last year.
Everyone's going to overcorrect this year.
There's no offensive skill players to focus on.
I think Kulil Mack, he had two sacks less than T.J. Watt.
T.J. Watt's like the second biggest favorite for the award.
He was number 29 on the NFL's top 100 this year, apparently.
That is kind of weird.
100 to 1.
Is it just because he's 32?
I think it's literally a mistake.
It's literally a mistake.
Oh, Claire or Claire.
No, I'm serious.
If you listen to this, you should put it down because they're going to change it.
Joey Bosa is 75 to 1.
Joey Bosa has a broken hand.
Like this is just a mistake.
Yeah, I think one thing you need to win defensive player
of the year usually is the team's got to be decent, right?
You got to probably make the playoffs because the last five,
it's been Miles Garrett on the Browns, Nick Bosa on the Niners,
T.J. Watts, Steelers, Aaron, Dantlems, Stefan Gilmore, the Patriots.
100%.
And then back to back Aaron Donald.
So the team, so the charges probably have to be at least 500 or above for Mack to win this award.
You're dead right about making the playoffs.
And so you could bet the charges to make the playoffs
that like even money,
a dollar to win a dollar,
or you could put a dollar in Klua Mac
to win defensive player of the year,
and it's $100.
I went and checked.
It is actually,
yeah,
it is 100 to 1.
I was like,
there's no way that's correct.
We shouldn't have told people that.
By the time this episode comes out,
they'll have taken it down.
Guess who has the same odds right now,
Hassan Reddick, who is refusing to play.
He's like, I don't want to play football for anybody.
I'm telling you.
All right, that's my favorite one.
So next up,
We're actually, I like that we're their first power hour of the year.
And I'm immediately going to break the rules that we usually do for power hour.
I'm going to group the next three into one giant section.
And Kai, I want you to put six minutes on the clock.
Oh, okay.
Six three and four, all at once.
Yeah.
So Craig sent really not in the spirit of power hour.
But okay.
Well, not really.
But Craig sent three.
And I want to discuss all three.
But breaking them up doesn't make sense.
Craig had Gus Edwards, most rushing touchdowns.
in the NFL this season at 70 to 1.
Yeah.
Anthony Richardson, the quarterback for the cults,
most rushing touchdowns in the NFL this season at 24 to 1.
And the one that actually made me laugh out loud.
Rahim Mostert, most rushing touchdowns in the NFL at 29 to 1.
29 to 1.
People really refuse to, like,
people are, like, blocking out Rahim Moster.
There's, like, object permanence or something with Rahim Moster.
If he's not on your fantasy team, people are just, like, ignoring him.
They're kind of ignoring what Mike McDaniels.
is saying, even on the dolphins, there's, like, there's reports, like, Mike McDaniels keeps
talking about how he wants to use a split committee. He's not going to give all the touches
to one running back, which, of course, that makes sense. It really actually doesn't make a whole
lot of sense to do that in the NFL, unless you have guys, a guy like, you know, Christian
McCaffrey or something like that. Rehomoster, obviously led the league in touchdowns last year,
with 18, rushing touchdowns with 18. He's in the exact same situation. The coach
continues to say he will use a committee. Rehomoster, it's like, he, he, he,
is the Red Zone guy. He's reliable.
And coaches like that, they're not just going to suddenly stop giving Rahimosa the ball inside
the 20, inside the 10 and the 5. He's the 13th best odds. It doesn't make any sense to me.
29 to 1. D.K., you're the resident old.
Does that, do you think, when was, I'm trying to think, when was the last time or situation,
someone led the league in rushing touchdowns and then to do it again the next season with 29 to 1?
When nothing has changed, there's no difference in the team.
They're just like, he's going to fall apart.
What's the material difference other than age between Rahim Moster and David Montgomery?
Like they're both playing alongside like a super explosive, sexy guy, but they're still getting like the vast majority of the red zone looks.
They're still like quote unquote the starter.
I think David Montgomery did see some snaps last year to Jemir Gibbs as the season went on.
But like it is very weird how everyone's like assuming that Rahim Moster is just going to not be a part of this offense anymore, barely.
And what's funny about that, you mentioned David Montgomery.
David Montgomery had 13 touchdowns last year.
It was tied for the third most, right?
So Rahim Moster had the most at 18,
and David Montgomery tied for third with 13.
If you look at the odds,
Montgomery's fourth to lead the league in rushing touchdowns.
In the same situation,
Rahim Mostert is 13th to lead the league in rushing touchdowns,
and he's in the same situation.
I don't understand.
Montgomery, by the way, only played in 14 games.
Marie Mawyer Moster played in 15 games.
Montgomery averaged 16 touches a game.
Mostert, 15 touches a game.
It's pretty funny,
Honestly. And again, obviously, most of the concern is that he might get hurt.
But 29-0-1's insane.
Every NFL player. We're playing football.
That's always my concern. But continue it. Gus Edwards, we just mentioned him.
Like I said, third in the league in rushing touchdowns last year with 13.
Among running backs, Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts at 15.
So they technically slaughtered above him.
But I'm just like, man, this guy's 70 to 1.
He's on the Chargers who have a great old line with Greg Roman as the OC,
who he was with last year in Baltimore when he had 13 touchdowns.
I'm just like this team might run the most in the league,
and I can get the red zone running back at 70 to 1.
I just want pieces of the Chargers run offense
because I feel like everyone is treating the Chargers
like they have a terrible quarterback.
You know what I mean?
Like obviously they're going to run a lot,
but they're also going to be efficient.
They're also going to get into scoring positions
because they have one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL
and Justin Herbert, like running this offense.
I feel like we're treating the Chargers like they have Gardner Minchu
at quarterback or something.
Like they're trying to hide their quarterback,
which is not true.
It was funny to read Justin Herbert, like coming back to practice and everyone,
all the charges players, and everyone's like, wow, Justin Herbert looks amazing.
And I'm like, yeah, you guys been watching Easton Stick for a month?
Like, of course Justin Herbert looks amazing.
He's like Luis Perez from the XFL.
Harbour wants to be stuck in an elevator with Justin Herbert.
That's how good he is.
So the last guy here to finish out this triple power hour, Anthony Richardson,
to lead the league in rushing touchdowns.
I mean, look, it's becoming more and more possible.
that quarterbacks do this, right? Hertz,
Josh Allen, have basically been
right there the last two years.
Stuyken is the O.C. or the head coach
in Indianapolis now when he had
Jalen Hertz in 21 and
2022. That's what really
started the rushing boom with Jalen Hertz.
The same thing could happen with Anthony Richardson. He had four
touchdowns and four games last year.
If he's healthy and play 17 games,
he will be in the running for most rushing touchdowns.
Extrepoly that. It's 17 touchdowns.
Right.
Yeah.
That's like when I said, Anthony,
When Anthony Richardson at 18 fantasy points in six minutes, he was actually on pace for 180 points.
Right.
There was a point last year because I think Hyphitz was a little, I don't know, skeptical, I guess is the word you could use when it came to Anthony Richardson and fantasy.
And there was a point where Hyfitts was just like, oh shit.
Like he actually could break fantasy.
I was skeptically to be able to pass enough to buoy Michael Pittman.
And he then did exactly that.
But the rushing was unbelievable.
The RPO stuff.
Yeah.
Can I throw two other ones on the rushing touchdown train out here?
No.
This is my power hour.
No, go ahead.
I'll wait for the bell.
No, please, please, please.
Breeze Hall is 18 to 1 to lead the NFL and rushing touchdowns.
Yeah.
That's, I don't know.
Seems low.
That's probably because he only had, he had one carry inside the five yard line last year.
Correct.
And zero from the one.
The only team did not give their running back a carry inside the one.
Imagine how excited Breeze Hall is going to be when they're
inside the five. She's like, not going to know what to do.
Which way do I go?
This is weird down here.
It's like Tony Pollard when he just got
confused. Yeah, he's like, oh, this is,
they paint the end zone a different color. That's cool.
Oh, yeah.
Six minutes. We did it.
Wait, sneak in the other one. Who's the other guy?
I'll give a full two minutes to this one. Oh, okay.
Oh, wow. Okay. It's a long shot.
It's not going to happen. But like, you should put money on this.
Taseem Hill to lead the NFL in rushing touchdowns is
250 to 1. Oh, yeah.
We should do this as a show.
I'm just saying, is this going to happen?
Probably not. Having said that.
Alvin Camara's house is apparently
on the market. And let's
just say that. I like that. Let's just say something
happens to Alvin Camara. Let's say it gets hurt.
Let's say there's some dispute with the team because I do think
they're going to maybe cut him Alvin Camer after the season.
Maybe he gets mad about it. Maybe there's some issue.
Something happens to Camara. Well, Kenjee Miller,
the Saints running back behind him, is hurt all the time.
And Dennis Allen literally just
has never said anything in nice about Kendra Miller.
in his entire life and seems to hate his guts.
And then the guy,
the guy behind Kennedy Miller's like, Jamal Williams,
who's like 29 and dust.
So it's not really like,
we're right there of Tacey Mill just being the goal line guy.
If anything happens to Alvin Camara,
Kaysa was just going to be this goal line quarterback for the Saints.
What if he freaking let the NFL touchdowns?
250 to 1.
God, I love that.
That would be so amazing.
Craig, how many touchdowns did he average per game?
How much is it?
Casea Mill?
Is he up there with Jalen Hertz?
Probably, to be honest.
In terms of like touchdowns per snap or touch, he's high.
Yeah.
I like this real estate corner high fits.
Maybe we should start incorporating that into the show a little bit more.
Why is Camara's house on the market right now?
Is this like a better time to sell?
He's planning on leaving next year and he can get a better deal right now.
Like what's going on?
Isn't that the question?
You know, is he going to move into an apartment for the season?
Who knows?
That's kind of what I'm wondering.
That's where I'm like 250 to one.
Do you think he gets traded?
Like, what's going on here?
I thought he said he wanted to retire a saint.
Is this a negotiating tactic?
That's the thing you say right before you leave the team.
Like, Sequin Barclay said, I want to retire the Giants.
And the Giants are like, cool.
We're not even going to make you an offer before you get free agency, bro.
Yeah, but Sequin didn't put his house for sale.
No, but he didn't have to.
He lived in New Jersey.
Philly's like 45 minutes.
But like the...
Do you think Seekwan stayed in his New Jersey place or did he move?
That's a good question.
He wouldn't have had...
He probably wanted to be like 10 minutes from his facility,
but like, he could have done.
done it if you wanted.
JJ Reddick lived in Brooklyn and commuted to the 76ers.
Oh yeah.
That's crazy.
He commuted from Brooklyn to Philly.
Yeah.
All right.
I'm just throwing it out there.
Taysam Hill.
Maybe you could buy Alvin Camara's house with the winnings.
So that's your fifth most favorite bet is Tassam Hill to lead the league in rushing.
At 250 to one?
If you did the season, 250 times, it would happen.
I mean, you put a hundred bucks on it.
You can buy his house.
You could buy Camara's house with the money.
I like that one a lot.
I wish I would have thought of that.
I'm mad at myself for not thinking of that.
I like your next one here, DK.
This is number six, my favorite bet for this season.
All right.
Mine is most regular season receiving yards.
And the answer here is Cooper Cup.
He's 32 to 1, which seems a little bit wild to me.
Obviously, this is another most of it thing.
It's like he's getting older and then people kind of just like push him to the side.
Don't really care about him anymore.
However, if you look at the last three seasons, two players, Justin Jefferson and Tyree Kill, average more receiving yards per game.
than Cooper Cup.
He's third on that list.
And he's currently tied on the odds right now in terms of like who's going to win this with
Chris Olive.
What are we doing here?
Derek Carr?
You want to bet on Derek Carr?
Yeah.
So I don't know.
Cooper Cup at 32 to 1.
That feels like really nice to be.
I think he could have a big bounce back year.
If he can stay healthy.
I mean, again, over the last three years, only two guys have averaged more yards
per game than him.
It's a funnel offense to him and Puka.
He's going to go.
nuclear if he can stay healthy.
Obviously, this is just a bet that he'll stay healthy.
I like this.
I don't have any notes.
I don't have any notes with this.
You know my feelings about Cooper Cup this year.
Yeah.
32 to 1.
I mean, what are his odds?
I mean, to finish as the number one overall player in fantasy,
I mean, they have to be less than 32 to 1.
This just goes in line with everything else we're saying,
where it's like Cooper Cup being 32 to 1
to lead the league in receiving yards is also why we were higher on him.
We just, we just, there's just questions about his health.
And with Rahim Oster, we're just like, we,
We think that he does have those health concerns.
We're just kind of like whatever.
Cooper Cup,
I feel like we just disagree about the health concerns right, Cooper Cup.
Like I think we just are not as worried of a Cooper.
Cooper Cup's health as everyone else.
I mean, so far, this whole power hour has been old dogs who haven't quite hung it up yet.
We got Khalil Mack, Gus Edwards, Rahim Mostert, Cooper Cup.
What can go wrong.
It's better.
It went up in the last hour.
It's now 31.
Oh.
Oh.
Did you bet it?
That's probably the problem.
people are on this
well I think Fandul
listens to our tapings
and then adjust the lines
according to as they listen
all right this next one is mine
in line with DK's Cooper Cup one
I have so Tyree Kill
to win the MVP
is 100 to 1
which to that I have two questions
for you guys
go if Tyree Kill
had 2,000 receiving yards in his season
he would win the MVP right
DK
yes I think so
is that right though
I mean, Cooper Cup won the Triple Crown
didn't win MVP, Aaron Rogers did.
But I mean, as much as I hate to say it,
people like big, round, shiny numbers.
The Triple Crown, you know what?
No one ever talked about that.
That kind of just became a thing during Cooper Cup season.
Like, Triple Crown and baseball, automatic.
No one even, I feel like
no one even talked about the term Triple Crown
and receiving. There's no actual, like,
prestige to it, even if there
maybe there should be.
But like, people love big, round, shiny numbers,
2,000 yards. I feel like people are
going to be like, yeah, give that guy MVP.
because my question is, if he would win it,
what are Tyree kills odds of getting 2,000 yards in his season?
I feel like if they played this season out 10 times,
he would do it once, but the odds here are 100 to 1.
100 to 1 solid.
I mean, it's just fucking impossible for a non-quarterback
to win a goddamn MVP.
I mean, Cooper Cup set the catch record, didn't he?
He had 1950 yards and 16 touchdowns.
And the Rams won the Super Bowl, and he couldn't win MVP.
That's a good point.
The Super Bowl happens.
No, the Super Bowl happens later.
but I'm just saying.
I mean, the MVP voting.
You just need a weird,
you just need a weird season for quarter.
Again, so generally speak,
it's like once every 10 years.
Basically,
the MVP voting is very clear.
Almost always,
it goes to the quarterbacks of a team
that got a first round by,
like almost always.
Oh, yeah.
And the only exception
when the quarterback clearly
is it like the reason,
like Brock Party on the Niners
wasn't going to win MVP a couple years ago, right?
How dare you?
Or, I'm just saying.
And so, but like Lamar last year in the Ravens,
like it's just a team.
But having said that,
Tyreek, every 10 years,
I don't think it'd be.
like Agent Peterson won't like 12 years ago.
Like I don't think it'd be crazy.
Again, he hit a crazy number.
Yeah, Peterson ran for 2,000 yards when he won.
Yeah, that's kind of what I'm saying.
2000's, 2000s.
2000's the key number here.
He's got to go to 2000.
But 100 to 1, he would hit it more than one time.
I think the Dolphins defense will be worse this year.
I didn't think they're going to pass more.
Sorry, not to disrespect Tom Tom.
It's week zero.
We can't disrespect Tom Tom.
Next up here, DK, I like this one.
You had most regular season rookie rushing yards,
Jaden Daniels.
three and a half to one.
I like this one a lot.
So I think this includes running backs, correct?
Correct, yes.
So obviously that I think is why he's not the favorite because this isn't just
quarterbacks.
All the other running backs are included.
But if you look at some of the competition right now, Blake Corum, he's a backup.
Jonathan Brooks starting the season on PUP.
Trey Benson, backup.
Marshawn Lloyd, injured, and a backup.
Braylon Allen, backup.
Buckie Irving, backup.
Like, Jane Daniels is starting from week one.
I think he's going to rush for like seven or eight hundred yards, something like that, if he could stay healthy.
And I mean, they're going to be designing stuff for him in the run game.
He's going to be scrambling all the time.
He could put up literally one of the best quarterback rushing performances we've ever seen, one of them.
Maybe not the most, like most impressive, but one of them.
And so, I don't know, I just like this at three and a half to one.
What are the other odds?
Who else is above him?
I think Blake Corum is the one that is a favorite above him.
Wow.
That's surprising.
Double check.
I wonder, so can you see what, we should look up Jane Daniels over under, his rushing yards over under.
I'm surprised Blake Corum is, I mean, that means what?
Fandall's projecting Blake Corum to run for like six, 700 yards this year?
I guess they think that he can't, or they think that Kyron Williams can't say, oh, they actually, it's moved.
Again, these have moved since I did this, which was literally two hours ago.
Jane Daniels is now the favorite, which it makes me less excited about picking this.
He wasn't the favorite when I, when I looked at this, but Blake Corum is next.
Jonathan Brooks, Trey Benson, Marshall,
and then Braylon Allen.
Again, all those guys are backups.
They need someone to get hurt in front of them
for them to even take over.
And it's not even guaranteed they would be
like the true number one guy.
They would probably be a committee
with all those guys, except for Coram.
Corum, I think, is like the one guy
I could really see, you know,
if Kyron Williams gets hurt,
Corum could put up really big numbers.
I'm also intrigued by Ray Davis
and the bills at 18 to 1.
I feel like he's actually sneakily
has a role early in the season.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Bucky Irving 13 to 1 is really interesting
to me. And then, hey, I was going to say, Kamani Vidal from the Chargers, if he ends up being
the starter. And it turns out that Guest Edwards and J.K. Domans are, in fact, washed. That's 24 to 1.
He's also, Camani Vidal is 120 to 1 for rookie the year. Just throwing it out there.
That would be hilarious. Craig, this is the one I was most jealous of that I didn't come up with this.
Thank you. I love this one. Number nine.
The Steelers, to have the most kick return touchdowns this year at 26 to 1, they are.
niche. Yeah, they're in the bottom 10 of teams in terms of odds, despite the fact that an hour
after the NFL announced its new kickoff rules, the Steelers signed Corderel Patterson,
who has the most career kickoff return touchdowns in NFL history. And I'm like,
I sense a market inefficiency there. New kickoff rules designed to entice more kickoffs.
And we have the best kick returner in the history of football. Teams can no longer easily avoid.
kicking to these guys. If they kick into the end zone, the teams get the ball at the 30.
If they kick it before the 20 or out of bounds, teams get the ball at the 40.
You got to kick to these guys now. And we have Corderole Patterson, who is jacked up, based on the interviews I read, to return kids this season.
So yeah, I love this. I don't know why they're so low in the odds.
That's great. This is one of those bets where if you made it, it's like the week one test.
It's like if you saw this happen in a week one, what would you think?
If Corderole Patterson returned the first kick of the season at one o'clock on the dot for a touchdown,
you'd be like, oh my God.
Like, I can't believe the Steelers just got him.
Like, they're going to be able to do this.
You know what I mean?
Like, but the new kickoff thing, are you guys excited for it?
I feel like it's going to be really weird in the first couple weeks of the season
because I think a lot of teams are going to do different stuff.
I'm super excited for it.
It's one of the, it's a classic, like, NFL rule change because it's super fucking
complicated and impossible to like to describe to anybody who's a casual fan.
But technically, I actually do think it makes sense and it will make the game better.
Is there probably like a much simpler way they could have done it?
it yes. However, I think technically this is going to be an improvement and will be more fun.
It's the ultimate. You have to see it. You try to describe it. You sound like an idiot. And then you
see it twice and you're like, okay, I get it. I feel that I'm less excited about watching the
actual kickoffs because I think there will be some more exciting plays with this kickoff. But
what I'm most excited about is how big of a difference it's going to make in field position.
Like if you look at what happened in the preseason as a guide, teams are going to be starting
so much further down the field, like a really significant amount further down the field.
which is going to affect scoring a lot.
Yeah.
So for people who don't know,
you basically have to kick the ball between the goal line and the 20-yard line.
You have to land the ball in there.
The landing zone.
Yeah, the landing zone.
If you kick the ball into the end zone,
the team gets the ball at the 30.
If you kick the ball before the 20,
you get the ball at the 40-yard line.
If you kick the ball out of bounds,
you get the ball at the 40-yard line.
So you're basically like handcuffed into kicking to these guys
and having them return the ball.
I think it's going to be pretty.
Yeah, we'll see.
It also incentivizes...
teams to hit shanks, basically.
Like you actually, some teams are going to just plant that thing on the ground
of the landing zone as quick as possible because you don't need hang time anymore for guys
to run down.
So I think that they kind of want to be like, oh, maybe the return will drop it.
And it's kind of like a ground ball almost.
It's kind of like, you know, you need some guys to be able to play shortstop on a screaming
line drive.
I love kick returns.
I think it's a lost art of football.
I remember playing Madden growing up?
To me, the funnest part of playing Madden was kick returns.
I love returning.
That was like the best, the best single moment you can get in.
Madden is returning a kick for a touchdown.
The new college football game, like when you actually pulling off,
it's such an incredible feeling.
Dude, it's Devin Hester and Madden was like the funnest player you could possibly have on
your team.
I'm super excited.
More kickoffs.
They should make them even easier.
All right.
Sorry to Tom, Tom.
DK., number 10 favorite bet for the season, DK.
You have Jared Goff to lead the NFL in passing yards this season at 10 to 1.
Yeah, he's 10 to 1.
Last year, he was second in passing guards.
This year, 14 out of 15 games, his first 15 games are indoors.
He only has three outdoor games.
all season long.
And if you've ever looked at Jared Goff's passing stats or passing splits, I should say,
he is so much better inside.
And I think it's probably apparent why when you watch him play.
Well, it's because he can only poop in domes.
Right.
That's true.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I don't know.
It's just like fewer variables.
The wind isn't a factor.
The cold isn't a factor.
Dude, I mean, have you ever tried to go on a jog in the cold?
It sucks.
I get it.
But honestly, like, Jared Goff is going to enjoy so many, like, positive things this
year.
they have a rare amount of continuity in the coaching ranks.
Getting Ben Johnson to stay was an absolute coup for the Lions.
That's going to really, really help their offense potentially take it to that next level.
James and coming in and actually being a factor could really, really help a lot of things.
Jemir Gibbs going into year two.
I don't know.
There's just a lot of things.
They have continuity on the offensive line.
I think they only lost one guy on the line.
And so all things are just kind of pointing to the Lions offense just being even better than it was last year.
I mean, yeah.
He was second last year.
He was second last year.
By 50 yards, he had 50 less yards than Tua.
Yeah.
That's pretty, yeah.
That's, I mean, that's what's up with that?
I guess, consider it.
How much better is the line's defense really going to be?
That's, you know what I mean?
C.J. Stroud, Patrick Mahomes, and Prescott are higher on this list.
He's tied with Joe Burrow, Tua.
And then behind him, Josh Allen, Kirk Cousin, Stafford, Pertie, love.
I think those ahead of him makes sense.
I think, I think if you looked at Stroud's numbers before he got hurt, he was
potentially on pace to beat that number.
There's just an unsexiness to golf.
I think the team in general,
Goff is not the center point.
He's not the narrative.
So people are always a little bit lower on him
than he probably should be.
Man, that's a good song.
Great song.
Love that song.
Kind of like paired to the Jared Goff one.
You mentioned Jared Goff second in passing yards
and 10 to one to lead the league in yards.
Jordan Love was second and passing touchdowns last year.
He's 16 to 1 to lead the NFL in passing touchdowns.
this year.
And I just feel like C.J. Stroud's like 10 to 1 or so.
And I just think, I really think that's, I'm not saying Jordan Love is going to market
correct C.J. Stroud. But something about C.J. Stroud. And I really do think it's
something about Stroud has clouded the fact that Jordan Love exists. I don't know why.
I think it's because they played playoff games the same day. And Stroud was so good that
it just overshadowed Love. But like, Jordan Love was so incredible for like, really from like
October on. And he had that one bad pick at the end of the Niners game. But like the Packers really
should have beaten the 49ers in the playoffs,
maybe gone to the Super Bowl.
And I just think Jordan loves the truth.
I know that some people don't like the contract and stuff,
but like, I don't know.
Am I biased on this DKKK?
I feel like Jordan Love is like a top six quarterback in the NFL.
Like he's right there below the Mahomes,
Josh Allen Lamar tier.
And I feel like people don't think that way at all.
I don't know.
I think he's definitely got a chance to kind of move into that echelon this season
if he does another, like if he has another really,
really efficient season.
I was just looking at it too.
Like last year,
your high fits,
he only had a 5.5% touchdown rate,
which is perfectly normal.
It's not like,
it's not like an outlier number.
Usually if you see guys over six or seven.
Some would say 5.5 is totally enough.
Yeah.
Wow.
It's average even.
Yeah.
Some would say that's perfectly fine.
He had a great season.
But yeah,
so I think that number just being where it is,
you're not even like thinking he's going to regress
dramatically this next year. In fact, you could get a lot better.
I think the way that he runs this offense so efficiently,
the way that they marry, you know, the run game and play action,
and they have so many different weapons that they can use this really hard for defense
to kind of like zero in on any guy.
I think this is a great bet. I like this one a lot.
Five and a half. That's a number.
Craig, the fact that I finished that spiel,
I feel like I giving myself a pat on the back on that one.
Yeah, good job. Thought through that.
Last one here, DK.
I like this one.
You had coach of the year, Matt Lafleur is 13 to 1.
So this is related to the Jordan Love thing.
I think obviously the Packers got really hot at the end of last season,
but if you look at their record, 9 and 8 wasn't super outstanding.
Usually with the coach of the year award,
you want to see like a pretty big improvement.
And if the Packers can go from sort of that middling 9 and 8 to 12, 13 win team,
which I think they could do,
especially if they make a big jump on defense because, you know,
their defense, despite having tons and tons of first rounders, has not been very good.
If they could make a big jump on defense, this could be a 12-13 win team.
So I think Matt Lafleur has a really solid chance.
And if you look at all the first-year head coaches, which a lot of times will be sort of in the mix for this award,
you know, you got Harbaugh.
I think he's the favorite right now.
That one makes sense.
But then you got Rahe-Morse for the Falcons, McDonald with the Seahawks,
Callahan with the Titans, Pierce with the Raiders, Mayo with the Patriots.
Most of those teams probably not going to be good enough to really get into this award.
So I don't know.
This is kind of like a career award, like a late, you know,
award for Matt LaFiller being one of the best coaches in the NFL for the
last five seasons and no one's really paying attention to that.
Maybe this is sort of like, you know, just finally he's going to get the credit that he's
due.
Yeah, I feel like if you wanted to bet the Packers to win the division,
you might as well just bet Matt LaFleur, coach of the year because you can get 13 to what odds.
And they will have to win the NFC North for Florida to probably win this award.
So if you think they could beat the line,
Lions in the division, you might as well sprinkle in Matt LaFlor coach of the year.
And it is such a dumb award, too, because it's like, it just goes to either, just basically
just the teams that were way better than we thought they should have been.
It's like, Paul Belichick didn't win a coach of the year for last 10 years as Patriots coach.
I think he was probably, like, he won six Super Bowls and had three Coach of the Year
awards.
So what does that say about the award?
But I agree, D.K., like, this is another one that Packers get the number one C of the
NFC.
Matt LaFleur would be like, oh, yeah, you have like the best coaching record of all time.
Oh, yeah, he's like literally second to Harbaugh
in active coaches winning percentage right now.
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I wanted to go through while we're here,
before the season began, our Super Bowl picks.
And I feel like when you kind of throw out,
like, I think this team will win the Super Bowl,
it's kind of a guess.
But I think it's more interesting to try with.
Yeah, I know.
You just know.
Well, also, it's kind of like you either pick the Chiefs
and you're lame or you pick against the Chiefs
and you're just being a contrarian.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Okay.
Because I do actually think the Chiefs,
I would pick them if that were the section.
I did pick them in our reader post.
I literally was like, what would I rather click back on?
And I decided that clicking back if the Chiefs won the Super Bowl and seeing that I had
picked someone else, I would just feel so stupid that I'd rather be lame and take the Chiefs.
It's funny.
Even though it would seem as though the Chiefs have a target on their back and they have a lot
of pressure, it weirdly feels like they also don't.
You know what I mean?
It feels like they're so relaxed and they've won so much that this is just like, they're
like already in gravy mode where I feel like Mahomes is like I'll throw behind the back in the middle of the Super Bowl.
I don't care. It's house money. Yeah, usually it's like the next year, the team who just won the Super Bowl,
it's like now they're tense, target on their back. It's been that way for the Chiefs for five years and they don't seem bothered by it anymore.
It's kind of just another day at the office for them. And but like also I feel like the real season, the true season really boils down to can anyone beat this goddamn team?
You know what I mean? Like that really is the entire NFL right now. It's just like they just ended a Bill's era with Josh Allen.
and Stefan Diggs, like they literally knocked the ball
and his A flower his hands of the AFC championship game.
You know what I mean?
Like the Niners, they just beat him twice
in the Super Bowl in five years.
Every team, it just has the same problem.
But I wanted to start, so instead of being like,
who are you going to pick Kansas City?
I wanted to, I don't know who you guys brought,
but the exercise was, I wanted everyone to bring,
who is the worst team that could win the Super Bowl
that you wouldn't really be surprised about.
And we don't know who each other picked,
but we can go once again by Fandal odds here
of just like winning the Super Bowl.
So first I'm curious, Craig, do you know how many teams are on your list of like they could win the Super Bowl?
You wouldn't really be surprised.
Including the Chiefs, I have 10 teams.
10.
Oh, that's it.
Okay.
Do you have more than 10, D.K.?
Well, maybe I'm just more optimistic about everything.
I don't know.
Who is on your list?
Yo, 22 fantasy teams?
How many teams are your teams?
I thought we were just like, if you really, really squint, I could see this team winning it.
I don't know.
I probably didn't play this game the right way.
All right, so who's who's on your list?
I was going all the way down to like the Jaguars or something,
and it was like 15 or something team.
You know, why not?
Read all the teams.
Well, if you go in order of the odds, they would be,
it would be like 15th, right above the Steelers.
So the teams ahead of them, Chiefs, 49ers, Ravens, Lions, Eagles,
Texans, Bengals, Bills, Cowboys, Jets, Packers,
dolphins, Falcons, Rams, Browns,
bears, which I think is, I don't,
no, I'm not really into that.
Chargers, and then Jags.
You don't think all those could actually would be.
I think I would put the Jags in front of the Bears and Chargers and call it a day.
You wouldn't be shocked if Deshawn Watson won a Super Bowl?
Yeah, I guess I would be, but they have such a good defense.
I don't know.
I mean, the defense got shredded by a rookie quarterback.
I respect it.
Let me revise this.
No, stick to your guns.
Stick to your guns.
I respect it.
Jags win the Jags Chargers, AFC Championship.
What if Trevor just gets super hot?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Let's get weird.
I thought that was what we were doing here is getting weird.
Well, it was.
You just got weirder.
How many?
You guys super freaky.
I didn't realize you were that kinky.
Hi Fitz, how many...
Anything that's possible!
I'm not kink shaming.
Hyvitz, how many teams do you have?
I have like seven.
I have the Chiefs and the Niders.
I feel dumb, though.
Chiefs and the Niders.
This is good.
This is good.
The Ravens, the Eagles, who I think could collapse him as the playoffs,
but also they could win the Super Bowl,
and I wouldn't be really shocked.
I think the Texans are absolutely on the list.
The Bengals, it would be really funny,
just for my purposes,
after being like I'm worried about Joe Burrow.
I would be really good.
I'm rooting for that personally.
And I think the Jets and the Packers.
Do you have the Lions?
Yeah.
Oh, no, I didn't say that.
But yes, the Lions.
The Lions, I think they could do it.
And then the Jets and Packers.
And then I started to be like teams I would be surprised that.
I actually would be surprised that the Cowboys did it.
Because they're so goddamn top heavy.
Like, Dak, Prescott, C.D. Lam,
Micah Parsons.
If one of those dudes get hurt, I have no idea what happens to the offensive if any of those
dudes get hurt.
And that's just not how the super, I don't know.
I feel like that's just not how stuff works.
And, but I don't,
it's funny because I look at the NFC
and it's so much different to me
because I look at the NFC
and the Eagles and Cowboys are like both just like
oh they could crush their division
but I'm also like there's like a paper tiger thing to them
where I'm like should you really be afraid of those teams?
I really look at the Lions and the Packers
as the teams of the NFC.
The Niners vibes are all off
especially we do since we last recorded
actually Ricky Piersol was shot
in that attempted robbery
and Brandon and I you signed
since we last recorded as well.
Trent Williams signed.
Yeah so that's a crazy
is a crazy weekend for the Niners.
but I pick Chiefs Packers.
That was my official pick because I just look at Green Bay.
And they're also kind of a wild card for the same reasons
where their defense could be worse this season.
But I think that I actually kind of weirdly believe in Greby's defense.
And I believe a lot in Jordan Love.
So I should think I had Chiefs Packers.
I made my prediction based on like I didn't include the Chiefs
because I would pick the Chiefs.
But if Patrick Mahams and Travis Kelsey go off to like film a movie this season
and they're they missed the playoffs,
I picked in the Super Bowl
I had Jets, Lions, and the Lions winning.
Here's what's funny.
Here's what's funny about the AFC
and I like that with the Jets.
I had the Jets in the AFC championship game.
And you know why?
It's funny because like the Ravens, after the Chiefs
and the AFC, the Ravens have the best odds.
Ravens are worse than last year.
Like they lost so many players.
They lost Mike McDonald.
The Ravens are worse.
I would argue the Bengals are worse
because I mean, then when healthy Joe Burrow,
the bills are worse without Stefan Diggs
and four their best 11 defenders.
Who are the teams that got better?
I think the dolphins are worse.
They lost a bunch of task rushers.
Houston is the only team that probably got better.
It's Houston and the Jets because they're getting Aaron Rogers back in the
and that's really, I think that's where after the Chiefs,
I think those are the two teams that are intriguing to me is Houston and the Jets.
And anyone else, I'm like, they're a worse team than they were.
And the Jets, I mean, probably have a top three defense in the league,
which you can't say about Houston.
Dek, do you have any quibbles of that?
No, not at all.
Great.
I was busy thinking about the fact that this is called Super Bowl Licks.
L-A-X.
Oh.
How many Licks to get to the Super Bowl here?
Lix is 59, right?
Is Lix 59 L-A-X?
Because L-I-X is 50 and then I-X is 9, right?
Because it's 10 minus 1.
We have to get this.
We have to make sure this pod goes another 10 years
so we can make it to Super Bowl 69.
Craig, it is 59.
So wait, D-K, who is your Super Bowl matchup?
You can do it, including the Chiefs,
and then one that doesn't include the Chiefs.
I think so.
We did this at the Ring.
or there's a staff post.
And I believe my choice was the Lions versus the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.
And I picked the Chiefs to win it.
If it's not the Chiefs and the AFC, I mean, I think it's the Ravens.
I know that's boring.
But they were like truly one of the best teams of all time last year.
Like if you look at the DVOA and the efficiency that they had,
they just kind of shit the bed in the playoffs.
They're becoming AFC Cowboys for me.
I know.
That's the problem.
The difference is how would we talk about the Ravens if they had made the Super Bowl?
because like Zayflowers,
the Ravens came about as close as you can come
to go into the Super Bowl without going.
Because Zayflowers, like,
Lagerie Stead knocked the ball out.
Oh, Craig laughed.
Did I say?
You just said he came as close as he could come without.
And I was like, I thought you were going to say coming.
That is the Ravens, though.
They've gotten edged with Lamar.
They're gooners.
They got cucked.
Yeah.
The ravens are gooners.
They keep, you know.
They're big gooners.
They've been gooners.
The Niners have been gooning.
The Niners are real gooners.
those pork bastards
oh my god
you know what though
I feel like every year it's like
we talk about there's like
how many teams last year
should have won the playoff game they lost it
I feel like it's like well
the Rams should have beaten the lions
and it's like the bucks actually should have beaten
the lions and then it's like the Ravens
should have beaten the Chiefs
but the Ravens they had the ball
at the goal line and he was extending the ball
and the ball was knocked out of his hands
and they're like
then they lost. Like that literally if he scores two in,
if I could have one, what if it would be the,
if he had made it one more inch,
they would have scored a touchdown and won the game.
I'll take that one.
But earlier today,
you were like,
oh,
the Packers should have beaten the Niners.
I just feel like we,
you can say that about,
what,
there's like seven games last playoffs that should have gone the other way,
I guess.
Remember the Lions 49ers of the NFC championship game too?
Like lions,
lions kind of blew that one.
But that's the point is it's like,
it's all,
like a lot of it is kind of random.
Like the outcomes at the end,
the point I'm making is that the quality of the
teams, sometimes it's really, really freaking close.
And like a fantasy matchups where it's like maybe sometimes you lose by like a third of
a point.
And then you decide everything that you did was either good or bad based on the outcome of that
game.
And it's like, there's process and results.
And to Deky's point about the Ravens, it's like we wouldn't be thinking of the Ravens
as a disappointment if, say, Flowers had got two more fucking inches to the end zone.
You know what I mean?
Same with the Bills.
I mean, if the Bills didn't lose that ridiculous 13 second game, the entire Bills franchise
might be looked at differently right now.
And it's also like Andy Reid is going to go down
as one of the best coaches ever.
Was he a bad coach until he won the Super Bowl?
No, but we didn't talk about Andy Reid that.
You know what I mean?
And it's all revisionist history based on the outcome at the end.
So the three of us are all picking the chiefs
if we had to pick any team twin single.
Is that right?
How could you not?
I think that's where I go.
How could you not pick any team?
They don't think they got worse.
They're a better.
They're a better.
They're a better.
Obviously, the weapons are better.
They lost Lageria Sneed, I guess.
But I think this team is better.
There weren't even that good last year.
They won the fucking Super Bowl.
If you had every Chief's team and the Mahomes there,
like I got a time machine and they all played each other.
Last year's Chief's team would lose.
Like they would have lost to the other Chiefs teams.
Well, and what's funny about that is that they went and beat
like the two best teams of the last decade in the Ravens and the Niners.
Yeah.
And here's what's weird.
They did it with a receiving corps that led the NFL in drops.
And then they now added Marquisites like.
And instead of Marquez-Vlda Scantling and Justin Watson,
who Jackie's mom was, you know, taught in high school.
Like, now they have Marquis Brown.
Why is that a derogatory, like, explanation of Justin Watson?
Why does that matter?
I don't know.
Because he's just a guy.
Justin Watson, who went to elementary school.
Fair.
That's fair.
That's fair.
I like him.
That's a nice guy.
All right.
If it's just like saying, like, essentially, I could have been Justin Watson.
Because Justin Watson went to elementary school.
I like Justin Watson.
But let's be honest, Justin Watson, just a guy.
He's a great guy.
Maybe.
Just a great guy.
I don't know anything about it.
Just a great guy.
I don't know if he's, is he a great guy?
I wouldn't say that.
I'm not going on record about that.
I am.
He's great guy.
Oh, you are?
Okay.
I mean, has he been great since elementary school?
Are we just going off of how he was in elementary school?
Not high school.
Is he a better person than he is a football player?
Oh, that's it.
Yeah.
Where did that even?
I don't remember where that kid.
Someone, Alex Kirster.
Someone tweeted, like, statistically.
speaking, when announcers
are like, great football player, even better
guy, that that is like impossible because
they're one of the best football, like, 90, 100
percentile football players. So there's no chance
these guys are like, you're like a saint?
Yeah, they'd have to be the best guy
in the history of guys. Everybody knows
that, though. It's just a turn of phrase.
You're getting a little well actually
when you get into that range.
All right, well, I said Justin Watson's a good guy.
I'm getting well actually. Well, you were like
Justin Watson, who went to high school and got talked
by Jackie's mom. It wasn't a fully fine.
What is that?
They're doing football.
Anyway.
Everybody went to high school and got taught by somebody.
They had MVS and Justin Watson and now it's Marquise Brown.
And they had of Xavier Worthy who had the fastest 40-R-dash time ever.
I don't know if that's going to actually translate to the NFL.
But number one, the chiefs are so much better at receiver.
And then number two, they have a weird continuity because Steve Spagnolo is an old defensive coordinator.
No one wants to hire him.
So like the Lions keeping Ben Johnson in offense, Steve Spagnolo quietly has become a Hall of Fame candidate.
because he, defensive coordinator beating the undefeated Patriots.
And that was three Super Bowls with the Chiefs.
But no one wants to fucking hire him.
So they get to keep Andy Reid's play caller and head coach.
They keep Spagnolo on the defense.
They keep Holmes and they keep their GM.
This is like when Brady was making all that money from the TV 12 thing and just like one of the lowest paid card back.
Yeah, like he married to Zelle.
Weird ass like competitive advantage.
Yeah, exactly.
And the Chiefs have that where like they have these great.
Andy Rita Spagnolo are the best duo.
And they can't know what's like meanwhile.
Well, every other AFC team is losing coordinators.
And the other one that I can't get over.
And the last thing I want to say on this, the chiefs,
if they do the three-peat,
I can't stress enough how much it will be insane that they did it with,
if Marquise Brown was a Ravens first-run pick,
Mahomes was traded to the pick, like the pick was traded to the chiefs from the bills.
And then the bills also traded the pick to the chiefs to get Xavier worthy.
And then the 49ers traded the pick in his second round
to give the chiefs Kingsley-Souam a tie out of BYU, the left tackle.
If the chiefs, if those guys all contribute,
A Raven's first-run pick, a left tackle the Niners gave them,
and Xavier Worthy the Tyree Kill replacement that was given in them by the Bills.
It will literally not only be the Chiefs slamming everyone else's Super Bowl window shut,
but those teams extended the Chiefs window, which would be insane.
I like that the idea was to talk about the worst team that could win the Super Bowl,
and then we ended up just talking about the Chiefs most of the time.
Okay, so make a non-Chiefs pick.
In the AFC, I actually think it would be...
I'm going Jets.
Jets, yeah, I agree with you.
I think they're good enough to do it.
We're so fucks.
The Jets are going to suck.
They're going to say.
Craig,
when you said that was my first thing,
I was like,
I feel like the Jets might just be the Jets.
I'm over my skis on the Jets.
I'm aware of that.
And I think Jets, Texans, the AFC, or the non-chiefs team.
NFC, I like the Packers and the Lions.
I like it's an NICC.
What was the last time something good happened to the Jets?
Can you imagine a Jets Lions Super Bowl?
Wow.
Yeah, that would be crazy.
All right.
Let's do some emails.
emails.
So on our last episode,
we did the take purge.
And I mean, I don't remember anything that was said in that.
I will say it's probably one of our best shows we do all year.
I don't remember anything from the take purge.
Same.
It's kind of a severance situation.
Yeah, exactly.
We, you know, we can't recall.
But we did get some emails from people about their take purges.
Love it.
We got one from Wesley.
West.
It's from the Cowboys.
Wesley says my take is that the Dallas Cowboys,
because Mike McCarthy's in the last year of his contract,
they let him go.
they hire Deon Sanders as their next head coach.
Dionne Sanders lets Dak Prescott walk in free agency
and then Dian drafts his son to be the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys.
Wow.
This is like no Stradamus stuff.
I love this.
That's in play, right?
That's in play.
Colorado goes four and eight.
I don't think that you go undefeated.
I don't think there's a record that keeps Dion from the Cowboys.
I love that one.
God, that would be awful.
I can't think of a worse.
There's no Cowboy fan that would actually want that, right?
Like zero Cowboys.
First of all, can you imagine that Dionne Sanders, Jerry Jones press conferences, number one.
And then two, Dionne Sanders is the only guy in the world, I think, could actually convince Jerry Jones to do whatever he wants.
Yeah.
That's a good.
God, that's good.
I kind of think this is actually, I think this is the craziest thing you could say about the NFL that I actually think could happen.
What if Jerry Jones gets up in the pre-draft press conference and starts talking about how Shitter Sanders is the top ranked player on their board and then gets take.
in one before.
This might be a dumb question.
Has a father ever coached his son in the NFL?
Yeah.
I think probably.
Well, right now,
Deuce Vaughn's dad is coaching him in the NFL.
Well, he's a scout.
I think Deuce Vaughn's dad is a scout, right?
Oh, yeah, you're right.
But either way, I'm sure it's happened, Craig,
but I don't think of like.
No one really famous high profile, right?
I'm sure a bunch of ghosts are screaming at us.
Email at ringerfancy football at gmail.com.
I know.
I'm trying to think.
But I, yeah, there's favors.
that are done all the time.
Like in Major League Baseball and stuff,
people, the 20th round picks,
they draft people's kids all the time.
I don't know if there's ever been a coat,
like, it's funny because it happens in high school constantly.
Doug Peterson coached his son, Josh Peterson last year.
Yes.
That was not famous.
It's nepotism, though.
He's like the 90th man on the roster.
I don't think he made a roster this year.
I could be wrong.
Can you imagine in two years we have LeBron
and his son on the Lakers and the Sanders duo
on the Cowboys?
Deion has already said he would do the LeBron thing
where he's like, yeah, there's some cities we're not going.
Like Dion could literally do the Shadir where he's just like, yeah,
if you get drafted him, he's going to just sit out or something.
He can figure it out.
You guys, we have breaking news.
Big news.
Huge news.
Did Cadirius Tony sign with the team?
The Seahawks are hosting Cadarius Tony.
Oh, my God.
Is it?
Oh, I want it.
You do, right?
You have to want it.
This is going to be really hard for me because I don't think I actually want him on my team.
No, no, he's good.
We're getting into weird territory.
Oh, so, D.K., you don't want him on the Seahawks.
Where there's some skin in the game, and I don't want it.
I'd take him on the Steelers in a heartbeat.
Him and George Pickens would start a podcast.
I would love that.
D.K., what concerns you about having Cadarious Tony and the Seahawks, D.K.?
I thought you loved them.
I mean, was there any player with more losses created last year than Cadarius, Tony?
No, not even close.
The Chiefs would have won like three or four more games if Tony just hadn't been on the field.
If Cadarious Tony was not on the Chiefs, would they have won that Super Bowl?
I'm not sure.
Good point.
Good counter.
I'm not sure.
If he didn't play in that game, they probably lose that Super Bowl.
Honestly, I think you're right.
I think I want him because I'm more loyal to the bit than I am to the Seahawks.
That's, that's, content wins.
Oh, my God.
It actually does feel like the Steelers make a lot of sense.
We need a lot of help.
And Arthur Smith could get tricky with him.
Watching Mike McDonald's Seahawks host, Godierist Tony.
I feel like Walter White in the car.
No!
Don't do it.
All right.
Next up here, this is another take perch from Josh.
Joshy.
Joshua.
Josh Peterson?
Oh, yeah, no.
Josh says Tyler Algier will outperform Bejohn Robinson and fantasy this year,
and the Atlanta Falcons offense will be just as confusing as if Arthur Smith had never left.
God, I hate it.
It does feel like that's in play.
100%.
I think this would be really funny.
There's a chance week, too,
where Bejan Robinson was the worst pick of the first round,
not even close.
That would be so incredible if he's just like this electric running back.
And they're like, yeah, we don't want to.
He's like,
you guys have been telling us to preserve these guys' bodies.
So we're going to play them 60% of the time.
D.K., do you think Bejohn is top three talent-wise at running back?
The problem is Al Jir is like Mr. Reliable.
He's also very good.
You know what I mean?
He's like, good in past, bro.
He's good in the passing game.
He's really tough and physical and breaks a lot of tackle.
He's just not even remotely as electric or explosive.
So therefore not in anyone's tier of like best running backs,
but he's just like coaches love this guy.
Speaking of which, this is another good take.
This is from Jake.
Jake.
The Eagles losing Jason Kelsey is the most overblown story of the entire offseason.
This is great.
Everyone is reporting it as underreported because Jason Kelsey is a likable guy in a gritty
position.
And the Eagles are still going to have a good offensive line.
And just because he ran a play that went two yards,
doesn't mean they cannot do it without him.
Well, it's not just about the tush push.
I would say there's more about him, yeah,
coordinating the offense a little bit.
This is an extremely well-crafted take.
Yeah.
Because generally speaking, I think historically,
center would be up there among the least influential positions, I think.
I, well, I think it's more important than guard.
Or, like, to a young quarter.
Yeah, but guards are not paid them.
Well, they're starting to be paid a lot more.
But like, I'm talking about, like, historically speaking,
guards and centers are low on the totem.
It's like running backs don't matter.
I'm not saying centers don't matter,
but I'm just saying like in the hierarchy of most important positions.
I think people are making this Jason Kelsey story
into a big deal because of the tush push.
And that he's a podcast and his brother dates Taylor Swift.
And it's like, it's a good take.
Jason Kelsey has had such a weird like career in life now,
if you think about it.
The fact that he was just like a really, really good offensive linemen
for like over a down.
decade. Nobody really knew him. I mean, he was certainly not even close to a household name.
And then, like, in the last year of his career, he and his brother start a podcast and his brother
starts dating Taylor Swift. And now he just signs a $100 million deal.
It's wild.
Podcast deal with Wondery. And now he is like one of the more famous NFL players in the world.
And he's a center, a retired center. It'll never happen again. It's fucking crazy.
We just need D.K. to get named people's sexiest man alive, and we need one of us to start, you know, dating a dad.
I just like, even the life he was living. He lives, like, a very normal life with his children and his wife, and he's like a guy who likes to be alone. He likes nature.
And he's just one of the most famous NFL players in the world. And it happened at the very end of his career. It's bizarre.
It is weird. Just like vividly remember him chugging beers in the background. Like every time they show Taylor Swift during that playoff game. Which game was it? Was it the AFC championship game or the Super Bowl?
Yeah. I think it was championship.
and he's just in the yeah because yeah he was just like shirtless chugging beers
like a menace the whole game he looked like a grizzly bear up there and it'd been like
chugging beers since like one o'clock in the afternoon he looks feral gates i just i don't know
it's just crazy now like he and his wife are doing like sunday ticket commercials and i'm like
it's just an offensive lineman and his wife who got famous like two years ago and now i would
say top three most famous players in the league it's probably Travis mahomes and jason right now
I think the question that to watch at the Eagles offense is just like he was doing a lot of the predictions.
And I think the question is what is Jaylor is going to do that.
But it's a good take from my Jake.
All right.
Other thing we ask people for, emails to ring your fantasy football at gmail.com.
We were asked for songs that you know what the song is within like half a second.
Got a few good ones.
There are a lot.
Emails to ringer fancy football atcom.
You know what would be fun.
We could probably do this because they can't sue us for playing half a second.
Oh, that's, oh, that's really good.
I mean, that would be a pretty fun game.
Can Kay put these in as we talk about it?
This might be something we should just do on a different episode
and have Kai could pick like the best 10 songs from emails we got
and actually test it out on us.
Oh, so let's shut it down.
Yeah, so let's not do this.
I won't read it.
We'll shut this down.
Maybe we'll do it on the Friday episode.
That's a great idea.
Emails at ringerfancy football at Gmail.com.
And again, the prompt is songs that you don't even need to hear like three seconds of it.
One second.
One second.
And again, if sometimes the song takes a few seconds to start.
But like when the song starts playing,
you know like immediately.
what song it is.
Like not even a full second you might not need.
And email to ring your fantasy football at gmail.com.
People send it a bunch of good ones.
Take that law.
Boom.
We just circumvented you.
Boom.
Well, don't say it.
Don't say that.
Jesus, Craig.
Come on.
What are you going to do?
stab me?
One second, what are you going to do?
Sue me?
I have the worst fucking attorneys.
All right.
Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig.
Thank you everyone for emailing
for emailing subramency football at gmail.
dot com and reminders. We're also going to have rankings at fancy football dotterrinor.com
for week one and for each week of the season. We'll have starts at rankings for you as well.
And so again, episodes on Fridays, on Sundays, on Mondays, on Wednesday, stick with us.
Thank you, Kai, for producing this episode.
Thank you, Carlos.
Thank you everyone for listening to us for the whole preseason and we hope we stick with us for
the regular season.
It's been a lot of fun.
We're going to keep having a lot of fun.
And again, emails the songs at ringer fancy football jimmel.com.
Thank you, Lord.
Lord.
Thank you the kinks.
You dirty dog, you
He did that like three weeks ago
I think I mentioned the Kings like three weeks ago
But they weren't my song, I don't think
I think you're right actually
You know it's a great song by the Kings Lola
Yeah
Wonderful song
You really got me
That one has a very iconic
Sort of intro riff
I think I have a few
We were talking about bands with good names
Good and Bad names
And the Kings were a band with a great name
Kings is a great name
It would be really funny if we did get sued
And part of the prosecutor's argument
is like, yes, even though the song is one second long,
that technically falls under fair use,
but these songs are so recognizable
that in that second you can still kind of exploit the song.
It would be funny if our own segment kind of bit us in the ass.
It'd be really funny if they just had the lawyer just went up
and played the part where Craig goes,
come on, we just circumvented you, law.
Don't say I killed that man.
Our defense attorney is like, it's one song.
You barely know what it is.
And then the prosecutor plays, it's been.
And everybody's like, oh, that's fair naked ladies.
And then we lose the case.
We lose the lawsuit.
Don't say I kill Batman.
The judge is like, well, why don't you play one second of the song?
It's been.
He's like, all right, you're guilty.
All right.
Goodbye, everyone.
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