The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking Our Last-Second Trade Deadline Advice

Episode Date: November 15, 2023

Power Hour! Debating the most enticing players to trade for (and trade away) ahead of the upcoming fantasy football trade deadline, including selling high on an MVP frontrunner, acquiring the Matthew Stafford Breakfast Club, what to do with Najee Harris a.k.a the Steelers backup running back, and much more (11:11). “You guys want to do some emails?” (45:20) Check out The Ringer’s Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings, waiver wire pickups, and much more! Fanduel.com/ringerffs is live! Why you should trade AWAY this MVP candidate (12:03) Why you should trade FOR this MVP candidate (14:10) The Matthew Stafford Breakfast Club (18:35) Calvin Ridley’s fantasy output will never be lower … probably (23:20) Kyler’s return does wonders for Marquise Brown’s ceiling (26:56) James Conner is boring, but sometimes boring is good (30:34) Davante Adams is happy again, which hopefully means more fantasy points are en route (34:48) Don’t forget how much Kenny Pickett loves throwing to Diontae Johnson (37:32) Najee Harris is the Steelers backup running back, do what you will with that information (40:25) Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens and Jack Sanders Producer: Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And today it is power hour every week. During the regular season, we are power ranking something on Wednesdays. And today we are doing the trade targets for the fantasy football season. It is the trade deadline on Yahoo. Most places, I don't know exactly when your league trade deadline is. You should check. But the default trade deadline on Yahoo is Saturday, November 18th. I think for Sleeper, if used the sleeper app, the default deadline is like the end of week 11,

which is like Monday in football, that's weird. ESPN until later, whatever it is, you should check your league. But I think most people, or at least a lot of people listening, you might not be able to make a trade after this weekend. So we're going to go through, we're basically just rank our best trade advice at the deadline. But first, we have a couple huge pieces of news concerning the top or what we thought, contenders, pretenders in the AFC.

The Buffalo Bills, after one of the, frankly, most embarrassing losses I can ever remember for what is allegedly a great team. against the Broncos on Monday Night Football. We're recording this Tuesday. You've seen this Wednesday since a little older, but the bills lost 24 to 22. We can get into all that insanity. The bills fired Ken Dorsey this morning,

their offensive coordinator. There's a lot to get into here. But D.K., should the bills have fired Ken Dorsey, the offensive coordinator? He was the one that called the all-out zero blitz against Russell Wilson, right? And then he was the guy who was in charge of putting 12 men on the field for the missed field goal.

He was also stripping James Cook, I think, throughout the game. That was him. Uh-huh. He told Josh Allen to throw just wacky, wild interceptions, right? If those things are all true, yes, I think they should have fired him. But otherwise, it just feels like he's a massive scapegoat for what's happening on the field here. I don't know. It's kind of weird.

I was going to say, I feel like, so if you didn't see the game, which God bless you, I, this game was wild. I mean, Josh Allen came out and there was a pick on like, what, the second throw the game, James Cook fumbled the second play of the game. And then Josh Allen threw a pick. And then they came out the next drive. He threw a pick. It was reversed.

Then he threw a pick in any way. crazy. And Alan leads to the league in touchdowns, passing touchdowns and interceptions, Austin Gailver, a great stir for the ringer. But the thing I kept thinking was the bill's won the game. Like the Broncos missed the kick. They have 12 men on defense,

so the Broncos get to do the kick again. After a time out, mind you. After a time out. There's no way at all that the bills fire Ken Dorsey. If they 12 men on the field, penalty doesn't happen on the bills, right? So it's like a special team's play that Buffalo did, got their offensive

a coordinator fired. Like, that's totally fair to say, right? Wasn't this happen all the time? The outcome always drives the decision, even though the outcome had nothing to do with the person you fired. This happens all the time in football where it's like, if a team loses a close game,

they'll fire somebody that had nothing to do with the end of the game decision. So I felt about Tom Brady's legacy after the Seahawks Super Bowl, where I was like, what we'd just be complaining about how he lost if Marshall Lynch just got the ball. But this is the most extreme I've seen

where it's like, the offensive guy was fired after a defensive and special team's mistake. I feel like everyone's wrong. I feel like Sean McDurray the coach made a very emotional decision. But I also feel like Ken Dorsey wasn't doing much for the Bill's offense. I don't know. Well, I think it's one of those things that's,

it's hard to pinpoint exactly what the offensive coordinator, like what value he's bringing. Obviously, this is a Josh Allen led offense. Josh Allen's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. They have Stefan Diggs. You know, I think in going back, like, I think he's getting compared to Brian Dayball a lot, even though, you know, by basically any metric,

the Bill's offense has been really good this year. It's like the main thing and the only thing that's, really holding them back is the turnovers. And so maybe, I guess there is a world in which you could blame the offensive coordinator for the turnovers that are happening. But I still think that's a big reach. I think he's been doing a fine job. And to me,

it's just this is a classic case like Craig was saying of scapegoating somebody when you want things to change. Like maybe they just feel that something needs to change for them to get like. You need a fall guy. Yeah. Well, wait, Craig, did you see killers of the first? Flower Moon? No, not yet. Wow, neither are you? No spoilers. I've not seen it yet either. Can I give you a nameless spoiler? Sure. It doesn't matter. All you know is at some point,

you know, there are crimes and at some point they're going to like pin it on a fall guy like this like whatever guy. And he's like, and he looks at the cops and he's like, wait, this is going to be on my neck? And they all nod. He's like, all right, get out your pencils. And like he just starts naming it. And that like reminds me of this where it's like, Ken Dorsey was he great? I don't know. Is this all, I don't know. It's like, it's chicken or the egg, but at some point, I don't know, Austin Gail made a great point to me. It's like, Josh Allen just keeps throwing the same interception all a year. Like, it's the same play almost with the safety. That's Josh Allen, you know. I know. It's like, is that Ken Doris's job to fix it or not. But overall, I don't know. Like,

Sean McDermott, who's the head coach of the bills. I just, it just feels such an, it's the, it's such a transparently emotional scapegoaty thing that I almost feel like this can't be the right decision. Like, it's so transparently just to cover your own butt. Right. Right. Do you think now more than ever teams are because of like how much media scrutiny is received by teams after like a two-week losing streak or something like that, where they feel more forced to make kind of a rash decision than they've ever been? I don't know if that's the case.

I think the bills are specific because this loss drops the bills to five and five. The bills seriously might miss the playoffs. Like this was supposed to be the easy stretch. The bill schedule. The bills have the same record as the Raiders. Somebody pointed this out. I think Josh Norris pointed this out and I was just like, what what there's no way that's actually true there's no way that's correct like if you just look back

don't forget the the raiders have sorry not the reason confused i'm they're equal to me now and then since we since october first the bills have are two and four and one of those wins was on the final play of the game against the giants like the bills almost lost to the giants it's not like the you know the wins are by some margin either so you look and like they were playing the bank like the bangles broncos patriot they lost to the Patriots, like, this is supposed to be the easy part. Now the bills have to play Jets, Eagles, Chiefs, Cowboys. That's the next four games at five and five.

I think the bills are going to miss the playoffs. I think so I think that's what this is about. I think when you say it like that, High Fitz, when you put it that way, it does feel to be like they were just looking at this and being like something. Something's got to change here. Does this ever work?

Shake it up. It's week 11. You're firing your offensive coordinator and now you're going into the toughest stretch of your season. Like, I feel worse about the team now. To me, I'm always a fan. just like whenever anytime a company's in hot water usually the best situation is just like hunkered down you know what I mean just like keep it together right yes it's just like figure it out internally to me like

when you when you set a fire off now they're scrambling and now they're going into play the jets a team that has owned Josh Allen Josh Allen is by far his worst against the New York Jets they obviously lost week one of the NFL season and so I'm like to me firing your offensive coordinator right now was was a little bit uh I don't know, overreactionary. Yeah. I agree. If this was Mike Tomlin, what was it? A couple of weeks ago?

Mike Tomlin was like, oh, there's going to be changes on offense. And then he cut like the six-string receiver or something. Yeah. That's how he would handle it. Mike Tomlin's school, crisis PR. Speaking of crisis PR, a much bigger crisis for another team in the AFC. Patrick Mahomes. Kai texted us this morning something I thought was obviously fake,

which is that Patrick Mahomes has worn the same pair of underwear every game is NFL career, to which I was like, this is fake. Well, the big part. was, that is in it of itself disturbing, but if he washes it, I'm not that concerned. The problem is that when they go on a winning streak, he does not wash his drawers

in between games. I don't even know what to say. All I'll say is my first reaction was, that's fake. So I googled it. The first thing that came up was CNN. And I guess actually, I didn't realize. He said this on the Manning cast last night. And he just was like, yep.

And I was like, damn, Jason Giambi for the Yankees back in the day, they would break hitting streaks, not hitting streaks, but like slumps. Slumps by wearing like a golden thong that they passed around the Yankees Clubhouse. But I think they washed that. I don't know. Is this

like a crime? I think it is a crime. I think he should be behind bars because of this. I really do. Do you think that Mahomes, like Kim Kardashian just gave him a skim's ad. Do you think she wants that back? Yeah, this is breaking the contract. These ever washed the skims? Probably not. Like you guys know what it's like. If I go play

pick a basketball for 60 minutes and I come home, the clothes I'm wearing should be lit on fire. Horrific. So both times Patrick Mahomes has won the Super Bowl. Statistically, it is certain that he didn't wash his underwear for at least four weeks, right? Oh, look, no. Oh, God, it's worse than that. Worse that. Oh, my God.

This was November 14th. 2019, they lost November 10th, and then they won November 18th. and they didn't lose again the entire season. November 18th to like early February? November 18th to the Super Bowl's February 2nd. Wait, do you think, wait, that's three months. That was 2020. Do you think that's what started the pandemic?

Patient zero. It's incredible. Just brewing. So that game, the Super Bowl against the Niners in 2020, he had been wearing three months old, like eight games in a row worn underwear? 11 games in a row. 11?

11 games in a row. Dude, that's gnarly. I genuinely think less of him. This is half a bit, but I actually think less of him now. If that's the secret to greatness, I don't want to be great. It might be. Athletes are different. You know what I mean?

Oh, my God. All right. That's all we got, I think, right? That's the whole episode, right? Honestly, it's more embarrassing than anything the bills did this week. But, all right, we're going to get to power. Again, I would like to shout out a listener, Glenn, who emailed us a couple weeks ago, Glenn.

and was basically like, can you like give some examples if you trade these people for? And we're like, all right, fair. So we're going to do our trade advice here at the deadline. And we're going to try to do our best to give more like, who's the worst guy you trade for? Who's the best? And like just more examples. But larger point, if you are ever listening to the show and you're like, hey, like,

even if you like it, you're like, oh, I want more of that. I want less of that. That's annoying. Why didn't talk about this? Email us at Ringar Fantasy Football at Gmail. Like, we're always trying to make the show better. So just email us whenever you want. if you have anything ever that you're like,

oh, do more of that. Shout out Glenn. So we're going to power rank our best trade advice here at the deadline. We're going to do this power hour style. If you're not familiar with power hour, it's very simple. It's two minutes.

You can hear the sound from Tom Tom Club. But it's Tom Tom, Tom, Kai, the people on Tom Tom. Great song. Love that. But we couldn't get Tom, Tom, clear on Fandall. So if you're watching Fandle TV,

we have a different song, which is funny because we couldn't get the rights to Fantasy by Mary Carrie. So we did Tom, but then we couldn't get the rights to that. It's on Fandle, so we have jazz. It's great, actually. I don't even think it's that we couldn't get the rights.

I don't even think we tried to get the rights. I'm not sure if Fandle reached out to Tom, Tom, Thub. Do you think we just asked? And they were like, well, look, and we're like, oh, okay. It's never followed up. Wow. Revelations.

All right. Power hour without further ado, trade advice. High fits rank these. So if you have any quibbles, it's with high-ifs. Yeah, if you think they're dumb, then just text me. Guys, start the clock. Number one, trade advice at the fantasy trade deadline. This is mine.

Tradeaway CJ Stroud. This is nuts. I disagree with us. Tradeaway C.J. Stroud. Craig shuts him down. Rookie quarterback for the Texans. Fianom. He's been unbelievable.

I get it. But this is just by the rumor of sell the news. This is company's good earnings report and the stock drops because you sell the news. You sell the news cycle. It's like, C.J. Stroud, everyone's like, well, it's obviously the rookie of the year. We're talking about it. It's on ESPN. It's everywhere.

It's like, you see the MVP of the league. He's nine games in his career as a rookie. And I'm like, what's the Warren Buffett thing? It's like, be bold, what others are fearful, fearful, fearful, one of those are bold. Seagy Stroud's value will never be higher. He's being talked about as the MVP everywhere you look. It's the trade deadline.

How convenient. Just sell the news cycle. Like, I would just trade him away. Okay, so in this scenario, you're talking about like one of the elite quarterbacks in the NFL. Who are you talking about?

Like, Josh Allen? Are you trying to trade for Lamar Jackson? I agree. But if you can't get a top four quarterback, you have to hold on to him. Who's playing well right now at quarterback? I think that's my biggest qualm with this. I was like,

No one's really playing good quarterback right now. You beat me to it. So answer your questions in order. No, you can't get Josh Allen for him. But I think that's kind of the point. I think that this question goes hand in hand with what you think Stroud does the rest of the season. And I think if you were going to tier the quarterbacks right now, is Jalen Hertz, Josh Allen, and Mahomes are still the top three going forward. Like, you can't acquire those people, to be honest.

But then there's like, oh, Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Dak, Prescott. Tuah, Lamar, like, Stroud. And like, you can quibble with the order, whatever, but I would bucket those people as like, oh, and I'm like, okay. But rest of the season, is Stroud actually in the group with Herbert, Joe Burrow, Tua,

or is he in the next group with Kyler Murray, Sam Howell, Jared Gough, Brock Purdy, Baker, Gino. Like, Stroud's still a pocket passer. I know he had a rushing touchdown this week, but he's still a pocket passing guy. It's like, how confident are you? So is Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert.

I know. All right, so here's where I'm going. And that's Tom, Tom. I'm just going to merge this with another one. You can't get Josh Allen, D.K. To Craig's point, I think Lamar Jackson is a huge by-low. And the example I'd give you is I would flip Stroud for Lamar Jackson if you could. And I- I don't- Feel like you might actually be able to pull that trade off.

I think you can. And like, it's the exact opposite. Lamar's a by-lil. People are sick of Lamar. Like Tommy DeVito scored more fantasy points to Lamar this week. Just send that tweet to whoever you're like negotiating with. You're like, hey, I'll take them off your hands. I got an MVP over here.

I think that if you did a ratio of like talent versus. acquire ability, there's nobody on earth with a bigger ratio than Lamar. Like, AJ Brown's talented. Jaylen Hertz is talented. If you text the person, like, hey, can I trade for those guys? They'll get to send back like the cry laugh emoji. And if you text like, hey, is Lamar, like, what about Lamar? They'll be like, yeah, I'm listening.

Like, I'm in. And I know that sounds weird, but going back to you're talking about tears, the first seven weeks of the season, the quarterbacks are totally chalk. The top four quarterbacks were Josh Allen, Jalen Hertz, Mahomes, Lamar. That's like exactly the order we drafted them in. Alan Hertz Mahomes, Lamar.

The last three weeks, those top quarterbacks from the last three weeks are like Dack, C.J. Stroud, Josh Dobbs, Sam Howell. Lamar's 17th, which is behind Taylor Heineke in the last three weeks. It's like a weird few games. It's like they blew up the Seahawks. They played the Browns last week,

so we had a couple turnovers. And I just think it's going to revert to the first seven weeks of the season where the quarterbacks were exactly the order we had them in. And the Ravens are going to play some more normal games. The difference is like, I think you could just flip Stroud for Lamar straight up.

I think you could like flip Stroud. for like Sam Howell and like someone else. Like I bet you could get Stroud for Sam Howell and like Chris Godwin. And then Howell might be better than Stroud going forward. And Lamar like he's just a acquireable as hell. So I think that to me is a very rare opportunity to get a guy with that much talent who also has had some blow up games. Yeah.

And I would say the one thing I would add to this whole CJ Stroud scenario thing is like you could definitely, I think the other route you could take is by downgrading slightly at quarterback but then adding like a receiver. Yeah. I agree with that. Think like... Like, go for Dobbs. It's a hard pill to swallow.

No, I don't think you can do that. Plus, like a good receiver I mean. Selling high is in pot. Buying low, it's like, oh yeah, I want a discount. I love discounts. And selling high is like the worst feeling in the world. Like giving up CJ Stroud just mentally. The idea of giving up CJ Stroud for Sam Howell and like Terry McLoren, it just feels wrong.

You know? It does feel wrong. Lamar, I think makes a lot of sense. If you really, it's just a graph, though, of who could you acquire for this person? Stroud in the last two weeks Who could you have acquired for Stroud Like 15 days ago versus today It's like I don't know

Take the chips off the table Craig would you do something like Jared Gough And like a middle Like a wide receiver 2 type player Just like get more depth Like DK Metcalf or Chris Godwin or something? Yeah Yeah I would do that

See that's the type of thing I think you can do If you're trying to sell high on Stroud Because you're not going to lose a ton If you go to like a golf type player You lose a couple points a week average. But that's still a good quarterback, still a good offense. And then you can pick up an extra receiver or flex player.

I think the weird thing, quick tangent, I think the weird thing about Lamar is that for somebody who is obviously such a talented runner, that always, you know, it's like the Justin Fields thing was like he could be the worst quarterback in the league, but at least his running gives you 18 fantasy points a game. Lamar's floor is shockingly low for somebody who is so good at running. I agree with that 100%. Like there's risk involved with trading for Lamar.

I mean, there should be because he's talented. But one, the Ravens don't have the ball control element anymore. But it's kind of always been that way, Craig. I think you nailed it where it's... Even freaking Sam Howell and Fields feel like they'll never give you like eight points, but Lamar can. But I think this season, part of that's because they're winning by like 30 sometimes. Lamar's got four games with less than 12 points.

That just doesn't make any sense for a guy who can run like he can. What are those four games? Week one, they were struggling against the Texans. But then the other ones are like... They beat Arizona by seven. They killed the season. Seahawks and then they lost to Pittsburgh. That's the thing.

It's like, you know, Steelers Ravens is always kind of weird and week one's weird. And then otherwise, I don't know. I think the first seven weeks, he was a top four quarterback. Yeah, I will point out he still is leading the NFL in rushing fantasy points per game, almost eight. So he's the number one quarterback in rushing fantasy points. Yeah. But no, so anyway, I think, I think Lamar just, it's just rare to have a player that talented

that people are like, I really don't want this person anymore. That's all. next trade advice here at the deadline. Number three, Kai, start the clock. DK, you got buying low on Cooper Cup and Pooka and Kooka receivers for the rims. So I think the reaction here might be like it's impossible to buy Cooper Cup, but if you've seen some of the trade offers that I've gotten for Cooper Cup, I have Cooper Cup in one league right now.

And people are really sending me some lowball offers on him. I think the idea or the theory out there is right now that people who roster Cooper Cup are sick of it and they just want to get rid of them at this point. They don't trust it. And I think there is some validity to that fear because Stafford is coming back. We don't know how his thumb is going to work. Cooper Cup is now just off the three worst games of his like career, or at least the career that we've seen with him where he's a superstar fantasy player.

And three straight games, less than six points in half PPR. Like who would have thought Cooper Cup would have done that when he got back? So I think now is the opportunity for you to go by him just based on this idea that maybe people are really afraid with what he can do. the rest of the season just because of injuries because he has an injury too that he's been nursing. And so I will say, even though he has had a couple of bad games, like his target rate in those three games, 26%, 36%, I think the big games are coming. So who do you think you could get? Like, where is Cup in this target trade rankings?

So I think you'd have to give up somebody pretty good, obviously, to, you know, because most people are like, well, he was one of my top picks this year. I'm not just going to give him away for nothing. But if you look at just like the rankings this week, what about like a Tony Pollard type trade? What about Travis Kelsey? You'd give up Kelsey for Cup? Yeah, I think that's like one of those trades where you got both sides are kind of like,

I don't know what's going to happen with this guy the rest of the season. Kenneth Walker, Joe Mixon, or do any of these, like, peak your interest? Like, would you give up a Mike Evans to get Cooper Cup for the rest of the year? Yeah, I think I would. I think I would too. And it depends on where you're at in your season. Like this is a Hail Mary trade, right? This is, I need to make a splash.

I'm trading to somebody who's sick of Cooper Cup, who wants 12 points a game from their receiver. And that's what Mike Evans has been giving you. So I do get it. The whole Rams offense is so scary because it's dependent on Matthew Stafford's health. It's like an old car that you like can't, you have to turn on like four times before it gets running.

But when it does, it's like a really reliable machine. But that's only if Stafford can actually like get through the next seven games healthy. think of start when I get out there. This old feel, I hope we can get up this hill. Would you trade Derek Henry for Cooper Cup? Yeah, I would. Yeah, definitely.

I would. I think good one. These are all good examples. I would definitely keep Kelsey, but I think these other ones are good decay. I also think it's pretty easy to trade a running back for receiver if it's close, because people always need running backs. Yeah.

To me, I'm, if I were out there and I didn't, and I wanted to like make a good run at the playoffs, maybe I have like a somewhat mediocre team, I'm aggressively going after Cup because we'll, we've seen with Cup for the last two years is that he brings legit league winning potential when he's on. He's he's averaged over 20 points a game in half PVR in like the 26 games

prior to this year. And so, you know, I don't know. I just think you got to sort of, if you're in that position where you're just kind of a so-so team, you got to make that leap of faith a little bit and go for a guy who could really like win you weeks down the stretch. It's the, so I'm disrespecting Tom Tom here, but I agree with you that Stafford, it's about the health, Craig, and that I think Stafford's dumb reading through the tea leaves, I think is fine. I think them signing Carson Wentz is probably scaring people, but in reality, I actually think Stafford's thumb is a pain tolerance thing from what I gather, and Stafford's a pain tolerance guy, and Wenz was signed because Brett Rippin and RIPA to my guy dresser win were not

competitive. But so do you feel the same about Puka, Nakua, DK? Because Puka was basically like with Justin Jefferson and Tyree Kill the first month, and then Cooper Cup came back and he's had one good game. So do you think he's right there too? Yes, I don't think he's at the level of Cooper Cup. I would put Cooper Cup, you know, a tier above or so. But I still would be aggressively going after Pooka, too.

I mean, like he's had a couple of bad games relative to what he did early in the season. But one of those games, I think he had like seven points. He dropped a touchdown. So like we would like that game would have been so much different, obviously, on paper if he hadn't dropped that touchdown. And again, it's just about this is a, a pass. funnel offense that goes to Coupa Cup or Cupa and Cup. Cupa and Cup. Cupa.

Cup. Cupa Capua. I think. And so, you know, again, those guys are the types of players, I think, that can get you, like, these big weeks that really win you your weeks late in the season and can, like, be the difference, you know, in the playoffs. So I just think I, maybe I have too much faith in Matt Stafford and just the Rams in general, but, like, I would be willing to make that bet.

All right. Next up, Craig, you got by low on Jaguress receiver, Calvin Ridley. By the dip. buy the dip, baby. It's a very big, long dip. It's a big dip. Like it or not? The Grand Canyon of Dips.

The Jags are in a really miserable spot right now, and yet they're six and three and they're going to be in the mix. And I want teams who are going to be the mix with good quarterbacks. And despite what you think about Trevor Lawrence, I still believe he is a good quarterback. Look, they've had three straight tough games.

They play the Saints, the Steelers, and the Niners. They've been to London and back. They had a horrible three-game stretch. But prior to that, Calvin Ridley was playing well. He's getting eight targets a game. He is still, in my opinion, the most talented player on this team, and their next three weeks are quite easy. They play the Titans, the Texans, and the Bengals,

at least from a passing defense standpoint. How do you guys feel about that? Lawrence is getting skewered by the media this week. This has been a terrible week for not only the Jags, but specifically Trevor Lawrence. People are like kicking him outside of the top 15 right now at the quarterback position. I'm like, I just don't believe that.

So if you guys, first of all, tell me what you think about that. Yeah, it's the opposite of the top. what I said about C.J. Stroud. It's like Bill Simmons on his show this week was like comparing Trevor Lawrence and Mack Jones and fantasy. Right. Like you'll never get a cheaper. I mean, look, remember what happened?

The Niners seem to just like ruin people's reputation for like four weeks and then you eventually get over it. Remember what the Niners did to the Cowboys and now look at the Cowboys? And I just kind of feel like the Jags are prime for a bounce back against a more realistic schedule. I still think that Trevor Lawrence can get back to what he did last year. The team is healthy and talented. And I think Trevor Lawrence is good and talented.

So I would be trading for Ridley and getting rid of guys who have been hot lately or have better, who have better name brand value. I think the key here too, Craig, is you could get him for cheap, right? Like, whoever's got him right now is probably just like, yeah, give you whoever. Take him off my hands. I'm sick of this. Like if somebody would give you Ridley for like Chris Godwin, I'd do that. Like Ridley's got upside.

Godwin doesn't. Like, if I, DJ Moore, I'd get rid of DJ more for Calvin Ridley. I'd get rid of Deontay Johnson for Calvin Ridley. Because I think you could get, you could ask for Ridley and someone else for DJ Moore. You're probably right. Here's the real question. Okay. If you had CJ Stroud and you were just going to blindly follow our advice,

if you had Stroud and you're a betting man, you went to someone who had Lawrence and Calvin Ridley. I think if you had Stroud, you could ask for Lawrence, who they're probably thinking of cutting. Ridley. And I think you could ask for a third person. And like, I think you could. Like if someone who, let's say if you have Lawrence and Sam Howell, and you're probably, I'm just playing Sam Howell every single, like Lawrence had two points, Sam Howell 24 or whatever.

Like, you're just playing Sam Hall every week anyway. Like you might cut Lawrence. And someone's like, I'll give you CJ Stroud. I would give you Lawrence, Ridley, and like you could have a third person. I agree with the point you're trying to make I agree with. But in general, it's pretty hard for it. A three to one trade is just tough in fantasy football. It doesn't really happen.

I agree. I'm just saying like, I like this one a lot because it's still there. but like it's free. Like you're getting Ridley as your upside fifth receiver. It's like the same reason you have Gabe Davis on your roster. And like it's not like the Jags or a team that are that's like tanking for the number one pick in the draft. Like like it or not, this team is going to be in the mix for the four seed in the playoffs probably the rest of the year, if not a wild card. So I just, I want a receiver on a team with a quarterback who is like competent and actually competing at a high level and they're not just going to like sit him like we all thought the Vikings were going to do with Justin Jefferson before the.

Vikings came back. Like, I want a guy in the mix. Number five in our trade deadline power rankings. We got, D.K., you have by low on Marquis Brown for the Cardinals. This is my guy. This is the guy that I've loved ever since he came into the league. I forgot about that. Hollywood Brown was like your original guy on this show.

That was like the first huge argument, D.K. and I had on the shows about Markees Brown. Yeah, back that he was on the Ravens. I like this, I like this situation he's in better now with Kyler Murray's now back. if you go back to last year when Kyler and Marquis Brown were both healthy during the first six weeks of the season, he was the overall wide receiver six. Like he was going off. They have great connection.

They both play together at Oklahoma and college. He was averaging almost 15 points for a game in half PBR. So obviously things petered off. He got hurt. And by the time he got back, I think they played one more game together than Kyler towards ACL. And then since then it's been obviously hit or miss with him. And he's just not really been all that impressive.

And that's another reason. I think you probably can get it from pretty cheap right now. You don't have to spend a ton to go out and acquire a guy like this. You could trade. You know, I think it's similar to some of the guys Craig was starting out there, like a Chris Godwin, Cortland Sutton, perhaps, going off of this big game this last week. Jordan Addison, who could probably see his role decreased pretty dramatically here once Justin Jefferson gets back.

Guys like that, maybe Tyler Lockett, who's, you know, hit or miss weekend and week out. I think if you want to capitalize on the fact that Marquis Brown had a really just sort of like down week, the first week with Kyler back. By the way, Kyler missed him by like a foot on what would have been a 30-yard touchdown. Yeah, he should have had that.

Markis, he went all out for that too. I mean, he almost caught it too. Like, it was very close. And so, I don't know, I'm just, I trust that connection. I think that Marquis Brown

as long as he can stay healthy, he's going to have a really strong second half. And I thought Tyler looked fantastic. So all things are like pointing to a pretty good surge here for Markis Brown. I think this is a perfect by-load decay. I think it checks out. every box where

if someone didn't watch the game and you're just looking you're kind of like pretty like I guess didn't do anything with Kyler you've been waiting for Kyler to come back yeah

Kyle comes back his one catch on top of that no one has like an emotional connection with Marquis Brown right but you try to take

Derek Henry from someone who has him but they've had him for two years they kind of just love Derek Henry has one people championships yes

no one has like this deep emotional attachment to like I can't let Marquis Brown except fear fear and distrust is the main emotional

thing with Marquis Brown, I think, probably. Yeah, I guess, D.K. Yeah, you're right, Craig. DK's the only one who's like, come home. Come home, child. It's like lucky underwear that he doesn't wash. That's Marquis Brown. Yeah, seriously. Which is the, yeah, who's the fantasy version of that is.

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Can we stick with Arizona? Because I want to pitch why you should buy low on our boy James Connor. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah. Start the clock, Kai. Run it, Kai. Eight weeks left in the regular season for the Cardinals. If you look at the last eight weeks of 2021 and 2022,

James Connor was the RB5 and the RB6, respectively. He's a finisher. That's crazy. finishes. Perennial top 10 guy that nobody talks about, nobody cares about. And one thing I like is that shitty teams pepper running backs late in the season. When they got nothing to go for, look at Cammakers last year, look at David Montgomery last year, Josh Jacobs with the Raiders. It's like teams just hammer the ball to their running backs. James Connor is the perfect example for that. And also, I think that the Cardos are going to be frisky the rest of the season. Like,

they are not going to be a team that's that's giving up and getting. killed in negative game scripts with Kyler and Jonathan Gannon in a way that he seems to be able to motivate the team. I think the Cardinals are going to be in the mix and frisky and James Connor. We saw when he was gone that no other running back really made a splash. It is going to be James Conner's backfield. Oh my gosh. So this might sound bold.

He came back week one. He had an average game. He had 16 carries, but he only had like seven or eight points, which is perfect. I think you, Tony Pollard for James Connor, I know is probably really a hard pill to swallow. It's like he drafted Tony Pollard. But I actually think it's a good trade. So I don't, I think this is probably isn't a bylaw just because the thing with a bylaw is if you have a player who went on injured reserve and you want to buy them when they got hurt, that's one thing. But when you, you know when you have a guy who missed an injured reserve and it activated, then people like, hey, you want to give me to him?

I'm like, oh, I held him for a month just like out of spite. Like I'll never give him to you. I think you're right though, Craig, that this is like just a buy. Like this is just straight. Like, I think you're totally onto something about bad teams leaning on a running back down the strait. because I think that that's a really, I actually think there's something to that because whenever something's going wrong in a season,

the coach being like, we have to go back to fundamentals and like, not just like physical running the ball identity, but like putting it on a guy of like, that's our guy, that's our team. Jacobs of the Raiders, Connor at the Cardinals,

I think that's actually there's something there. Craig, you threw out a couple of other names here, Gus Edwards, James Cook. I like those. As potential guys that you can trade away to get James Connor.

I really like those because like James Gus Edwards is basically touchdown dependent I think Connor is going to get just like a ton of volume both in the run game and the past game

Gus you'd have to attach someone I feel like you'd have to because you have to reach out Yeah like a flex option perhaps Yeah Would you guys swallow your pride and trade Tony Pollard away To receive James Connor

I wouldn't I'm too stubborn It's tough because the Yeah I'll stay with this forever I think the problem is that Tony Pollard's playing the Panthers this week. So it's like if you trade him away, he's going to have 200 yards and four touchdowns.

They just played the Giants and he didn't do anything. When you did that last week? They had like almost 700 yards and he did nothing. We've been saying this for like seven weeks. We're like, yeah, but look at his schedule. I think that the biggest thing we don't track in fantasy is guys who complain enough. Like, Devante Adams just like went on such a campaign to get the ball. He got Josh McDaniels fired.

He had like a 60% target rate in the first game with the new coach. It's just too quiet. Yeah. Tony Pollard had 30 rushing yards against the Chargers. Did Lions just have like 250? Yeah. Anyway, this kind of turned into a Pollard thing. Is this just, should we just like write an apology to everybody?

An apology? A Tony Polargy. A Tony Pollardgy? Oh. I actually am into this question. Gus and who? Who's the receiver you put the Gus Edwards to get James Connor? It's like John Dotson.

Jerry Judy. Oh, John Dotson. No one wants Judy. No one wants Judy. You're cutting Judy. You assume people watch John Dotson? Yeah, but you know what's nice

about Jehan Dotson is because he put up a zero last week? It almost looks like he was injured. For somebody who didn't watch the game, it just shows like... Because the two weeks before he had like 20 points in his game and so you could just make the argument, oh, no, yeah, he tweaked his ankle and he left first quarter.

And the guy'd be like, oh, okay. They had like a doctor's appointment. That's pretty good. Throw on an Odell, you know? Next up, I just mention it. I think Devante Adams, the Raiders is a huge by low. and I would trade for him.

I think, again, this is like a player who's just like very rarely available and it's very simple to me. This is a cut play. It's the cheapest he's ever going to be. Literally, yeah. And it's like, it's just the people who have him are, we're sick of Devante.

Josh McDaniels got fired, Garaple got benched. People are like, ooh, okay. And then he hasn't done anything. But he hasn't done anything because the Raiders played the Giants and the jet. They played the New York teams. They beat up on him.

And they didn't have to like have offense to do any. Like, why would the Raiders like air it out? But as Dekis said, Devante Adam is still getting a huge part the target share. It just, there wasn't much share. It was like a bagel bite pizza.

Like, they didn't have to do much against the Jets and the Giants. But then the Raiders, as they keep going, they're going to throw more. And like, again, Craig said this like three years ago.

Bad quarterbacks very often just target the best receiver more. It's just like, hmm, what do I do out of here? Maybe throw to Devante Adams. That's not a bad decision very often. Devante's begging for the ball. Like,

I think he's going to, the best games of a season are ahead of him. It's the cheapest to be. Antonio Pierce, the new interim coach for the Raiders is basically like, yeah, I have an elite receiver. I'm not stupid. You're going to have him get the ball a lot. paraphrasing, but that's basically what he said.

So, yeah, that votes well. Yeah, I think I'm not stupid. I know to threw the ball too. It goes. Yeah, if you look at the numbers between Jimmy G. Hoyer and O'Connell, O'Connell has thrown to Devonte Adams way more than the other two. Adams has over 30% target share with Aden O'Connell. Also, Scott Barrett had an interesting tweet about unrealized air yards, basically like,

guys who were open down the field and the quarterback just like missed the past. Devante Adams is fourth in the league with 544 Unrealized. And this is the Chris Alave category because every single time I watch the Saints, Chris Alave is wide open, 50 yards down the field and doesn't catch it. And the numbers bear that out because he's number one, according to Scott Barrett's list, for unrealized air yards. But yeah, Devante Adams has had like four 50-yard catches missed in like the last two games if you've watched the ratings.

Two people I think you could get Devonty for. I at Rashad White is a person where you talk about sell high. I know Rashad White might be a little scary because like he's been playing great for you or whatever. And he's been playing. He's just been great. And he has a lot of the back share. He's another running back where like there's not competition. However, my friend asked me about whether they should make that deal.

And I thought about it. I was like, I don't know what's going to happen. But I don't think until like the last 48 hours, there was ever any point in American history you could trade Rashad White from that. So like maybe just strike while the iron's hot. Right. Same with Brian Robinson, man. Ryan Robinson's playing great, but he's in a timeshare. And I'm like, people need running backs all the time.

But I think you could just trade out running. I would do that one too. Yeah. Next up here, D.K., we can just make this a combo meal. DK., you have Deontay Johnson and it's a by low. Craig, you have Najee Harris as a cell high. And I just think we should just merge these things. D.K., you go first with Deontay.

So I think just to start out, even though the Steelers are six and three, the vibes just feel atrocious. Like, Craig, give me your take. How does it feel in Steelers' land right now? We all know what's really going on here. Yeah. We're enjoying the ride. This is now the second year in the last three years

that the Steelers have had an incredible record and been a terrible team. Is that weird? What's going on there? We were 11 and 0 with Ben Rothesberger in 2021. We're terrible. However, that being said, even though the vibes are bad,

Deonté Johnson is just about the most automatic part of this offense right now. Granted, he had one catch this last week, and that's why I'm putting him in this category. Basically, it's like if someone is looking at number one, what people are saying about the Steelers right now, the way that people feel about Matt Canada, the way that people feel about Kenny Pickett, that is severely depressing, I think Deontay Johnson's value on the open market. And so therefore, I think he has a good time to go by right now. Because if you look at the three games prior, when he came off of the injured reserve, 26% target rate, 35% target rate, 31% target rate, he is the guy that Kenny Pickett leans on like the vast majority of the time. And so, or I should say, like, relative to the other players.

And so, you know, he's basically, Deonti Johnson has basically taken out all of Pickens' value at this point. It's like Deonti Johnson is just hoovering up all the targets right now. And by the way, he gets open. Like, he's a good player. It's not just that he's getting a lot of targets. I think he's pretty good. So capitalize on this really sort of down game for Deonti Johnson and just like let the numbers talk to you. Like the target rate is going to be 25 to 30 percent in these games.

times have we said that defenses have turned the entire league into a dink and dunk offense and all the Steelers do is dinked dunk dionte johnson's just a bunch of dinks like he's literally like he's a dinkinkin think he's literally the reason i don't like ppr is because dionte johnson is an elite because he just can have like nine catches for like 40 yards

wow incredible um in terms of like people that you can trade him for i think it's the same sort of the same tier as what we've been talking about the last couple guys like um you know tyler Lockett, Rishie Rice, Jordan Addison, this sort of tier of guys that might have really uncertain or really highly variable scores going in, week in and week out.

Like, the players are, you know, you don't really trust them to have that floor. And Deonti Johnson is not a ceiling play. He's a floor play. And so, you know, again, it depends on kind of what you need for your team. But I think if you want, like, just a guy that's probably going to get you like 12 points a week, he's your guy. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. Also, it was 2020 when the Steelers were 11.

No, not 2021. sorry. It all blends together. I can't get my pandemic years in order. Anyone who has like a really sharp memory of that is almost concerning to me. Right. Okay, but Najee Harris, I think, is a sell high. He's had two solid weeks and he's been better, I would say, the last four weeks,

but he's basically had two over 15 point weeks the last two weeks. But he's relying on touchdowns, which is something the Steelers don't do too well. And not to mention that Jalen Warren is now the starting running back on the team. So I know it sounds weird to say sell high, the guy who just got to, demoted. But I actually think you could for people who aren't really online that much and are just looking at the stats. The reason why I think Noggi's had a good

run here is that Steelers just played Will Levis and Jordan Love. And they actually had leads in these games, which is very rare for the Kenny Pickett Steelers. Usually they like to just come back in the fourth quarter. And look, the next two weeks are playing the Browns and the Bengals. And I think it's going to be

pretty brutal out there. So if you can shell Naji Harris now and just really try and remember back what it was like to have Noggy Harris for the first six weeks of the season when we put him in the burn book. That is probably what he's going to turn right back into a pumpkin. So if you can go get Tony Pollard, a guy like Isaiah Pacheco, a James Connor, I think you should do it immediately. Love that one. Yeah. I don't know if you get Connor, but I think you'd have to, the irony of two of wanted to get Connor because he was literally replaced Love Young Bill.

But the Steelers essentially drafted Nodg Harris in the first round instead of just paying Connor like seven million a year, which is kind of funny to think about now. And then demoted him. Jalen Warren, by the way. is really good. He's so much fun to watch. That's an example of a guy where throwing out names. I'm just making stuff up on the fly,

but like, one time of the Steelers, if you could trade like Seekwon Barclay for like Jalen Warren and someone else and be like, oh, you're getting Seqwan. And it's like,

dude, I would run so far from this Giants offense and get rid of Sequin 100%. 100%. And like, that's a guy. I'm just throwing out names now,

but it's like, Sequin's like a sell the name. Sell the brand. Naji bounced back is like I would put someone with Naji, if I could get like Jonathan Taylor or Travis E.T.N. Who I think are going to be like top seven running backs the rest of the way. Travis E.T.N. I think people are kind of like nervous of the Jags. And then Taylor I think is good,

but people like it's going to explode. I don't know. Those are just other guys that I would just try to acquire, just throwing stuff out. Yeah. Are there any other guys you wanted to just hit or touch on just throw an aim out there jog people's, uh, get some neurons going. I mean, if you're going to make me bring up D.K. McCaff. Still a bylaw? See like Pollard, where at what point do we retract? I'm emotionally too biased, so I'm not going to do it. But if you look at expected touchdowns versus real touchdowns so far this year,

he is the biggest regression candidate, one of the biggest regression candidates. But again, it's a leap of faith. Also, people are probably pretty sick at DK Metcalfe right now. So I think he'd be cheap. I mean, the guy's got 30 targets in the last three weeks, and he really hasn't done shit with them. Yeah.

If I offered you, if I offered you Sequin at DK Metcalf for Justin Jefferson, what would you say? No. No. I would not take it. I would take Justin Jefferson over that. Is Jefferson a buy low or sell high? Because I'm like, I mean, he's coming back with Josh Jobs. People have been holding him this whole time not to sell him, you know? It's an interesting concept though, because

right now he still holds the value of Kirk Cousins, Justin Jefferson. Yeah. It's true. How many, two bad games, then you're kind of like, uh-oh. Right. Even one. Like, if he comes back and he has like seven targets for three catches for 50 yards, everyone's going to be like, well, this was a mistake.

T.J. Hocgosh is just catching 14 passes a game. Yeah, you know how Google, like, they unlocked, what was it, barred their AI that's supposed to compete with chat, GPT, and it got a question wrong about Shakespeare or something. And Google stock plummeted like $100 billion. That's Justin Jefferson if he has two catches for 19 yards in this game. Yeah, I mean, if we want to be honest here, I know this is sacrilege, but the Vikings and Josh Dobbs are to sell high. Yes. How dare you, sir? Dude, my friend wrote, the same one who inspired the old guys thing where my friend is like, yeah, the friend who, like,

the friend who like doesn't pay attention to the sport in four years but plays wins because they're just like oh alvin camera 70th sure yeah that same person has dobbs and was trying to trade and he's like what he's like what do you want for dobs mark andrews and i'm like no it's not enough we'll give you mark and chase jimar chase he's like really i'm like no i'll throw on jonathan taylor and jacobics and he just kept and he was kept he kept i just kept up in the offer do the hyphins you brought up the chat gbt thing do you guys remember when uh the cyber truck did like The Elon Musk thing Where it threw the ball through the window

He's like we got bulletproof windows He like threw a baseball at it And it just like shattered I just think of that Well he didn't say it was baseball proof It's not Did you see recently that Elon Musk had Joe Rogan shoot an arrow at the car

I guess they figured it out Right because everyone's so terrified That arrows are going to get shot at their car It's going to say it was like a post apocalyptic I mean it's becoming more It feels like more realistic scenario The longer further we go, you know All right, you guys want you some emails?

Let's do it. Yeah. All right. This one's from Christy. Christy's following up on how we were talking about Jason Kelsey being named Sexist Men Alive and we thought that was silly. Well, he was a nominee.

Travis Kelsey's hotter. Okay. Nominee, sorry. Yeah. How dare you besmirch Patrick Dempsey like that? Yeah. Did he win? He won.

How old is Patrick Dempsey at this point? I believe his mid-50s? Geez. He looks great. I mean, he does. No denying that. Christy writes, as men, you don't seem to really understand what is sexy for women. I know.

That's... I cringe. That is like as old as time. I mean, I feel like we represent... We are very transparent about we don't know how fucking attraction works. Like, attraction is the weirdest thing in the world. Also, fame is attraction. Like, fame ups you by two points.

Christy says, I cringe when you try to talk about which. quarterbacks are hot. So let me explain your lure of Jason Kelsey. Women love the idea of a lumberjack kind of guy that could just throw them on the bed or against the wall or just carry them around. Just put them on the shoulder. Carrying. There are many women out there who drool over Andro the Giant from the Princess Bride. Really? Also, Jason is adorable with his kids. It's one of the most attractive things to see a man be so tender with his kids. Travis Kelsey is sexy if you want the irresponsible Kelsey who will mess things up and then try to make things better by shrugging and being like,

who, me? But for a responsible man that will love his babies and be able to throw you over his shoulder, Jason Kelsey is the one women want. Logically, this makes perfect sense to me, and I understand it. Yeah, I get it. But then, like, when you look at him, you're like, that's not the sexiest man in the world. Oh, do you want a mansplain to kill Christy Moore? No, I'm saying this is our point of view.

They sound like cultural kind of like norms, what we've been taught by the media, you know, The hottest man is like... What men have taught other men about what women think is hot? Yes. Like what Marvel has taught us is that he should be like jacked and hairless and blonde. I think hair is back. D.K. thoughts?

On hair? Well, I don't have hair on my head. I'm not hairless, though. You know? But yes, this email, we appreciate this email. And I completely understand what Christy is saying here. I get it too. Jason Kelsey's like, like, like biologically attractive.

you know what I mean? Like he like connects with like your face or instincts. Yeah. Which is why I don't understand like why people think like Pete Davidson is good looking. I don't, I'll never understand. Yeah, actually, Christy or any other women listening, can you follow up and just be like, why is Pete Davidson attractive? I actually would like to know that too.

Jason Kelsey just needs to start a TikTok where he just splits logs. You know, he just has an axe and splits logs. That is apparently that is like the big, the best way to attract women. He is the point of the spear and the tush push, which is pretty. wild. This like unstoppable play. He's just like. Also, not for nothing, but he is very, uh, charismatic. Is he? He is, I think. He's not afraid to get up there and like spit on the microphone. You know what I mean? Like he'll talk to a crowd. He's a host of a very popular podcast, which of course is the sexiest thing you can be. Um, right. Right. And so yeah.

Did you see that Taylor Lautner won the award for the sexiest podcaster this year? I didn't know I had a podcast. And me neither. I, I think we were robbed. And by Wii, we mean Craig. For me. Just advocating for himself. If we did a poll, when the Twilight movies came out, it was just me and Taylor Lawtoner

get confused all the time. Hyvus almost got cast. All right. You guys want to do some sleb story emails? We got a lot. So I wasn't here for the celebrity thing. Oh, I told, should I do it? Basically, I saw this woman,

and I was in Ralph, actually, on West Pico in Los Angeles a few years ago. And I saw this woman who was like in a lot of makeup, but she was kind of being like, this homeless guy was like in line trying to like talk to her and she like did not want to talk to him. Anyway, she was Gwen Stefani and I realized he was Blake Shelton.

And he just looked awful. And I just, and he was like next to the people magazines, which I thought was funny. Anyway, we got a lot of emails after that. Terlilite. Got a lot of emails after that about celebrity, really, really dirty. Dairylyke is incredible.

All right, this next one's from Michael. Michael. Mike. Mickey. Growing up, my family would make me go to wrestling fundraisers in a town. I'm not going to lie, I didn't know what that meant it for, like a high school wrestling thing, like just wrestling. Making money for the team, I guess. I don't know.

Yeah. It's just raising money. I don't know. Anyway, one year there was a fundraiser at what turned out to be Stephen Neal's home. Stephen Neal is a, if you don't know, two-time national champion and college wrestler, who also played football. And he was the guard for the Patriots, and he won three Super Bowls as part of the first Patriots trilogy with Brady. So that's why the rest. So the resting fundraisers in Stephen Hill's house, but he also won through Super Bowl's. So at one point, again, they're in his house.

At one point, my mom calls me over. This is now Michael again. At one point, my mom calls me over to, like, dip into Stephen's office and look at Stephen's Super Bowl rings. And we walk up and my mom says, how cool are these Super Bowl rings? Wouldn't it be funny if we stole one? Wouldn't that be a funny story? Jesus. They're worth like 100 grand.

I don't think it'd be criminal. Yeah, it's also a crime. Turns out Stephen Neal was Turns out Stephen Neal was right behind us Oh my god bold bold move We had a good laugh over it Which defused attention

But then Stephen Neal started hitting on my mom Ooh interesting He's like what if I stole you Way too far Wow And he said I've never gone from such a high Looking at the rings to such a low being caught And then somehow even lower

To the guy using that to hit on my mom. Wow. Would you be insulted if a famous person hit on your mother? I don't know. That's kind of a compliment.

It's kind of sick. Hey. If I'm out with my mom and Dwayne the Rock Johnson walks up to me at a CVS and is hitting on my mother, I think I'd feel good about that. Do you say,

Dwayne? What are you doing? Come on. Who's the ugliest hot person? Who's the ugliest hot person? That wouldn't be okay. Like, if Danny DeVito was hitting on your mom, you'd be like, oh, no, this is not okay.

It's like, buddy. Come on. You're right. I led to a good point where Chris Hemsworth hitting on your mom's almost kind of cool. Huge win. Yeah. Unless she's receptive to it. If it's Gary Busey, maybe not.

Friken hope not. Not you, Fat Jesus. Slide it on back. All right. Next one, we got an email from Drew. Drew. It's not a celebrity. It's just guys being dudes.

We're talking about a lot of the last episode about like, urine and we got an email from a doctor who's explaining all the kinds of urine. 28 different kinds of urine. 28 different kinds of ways they can classify your urine in the software that doctors use or medical professionals. Caleb actually. Caleb was a nurse. So anyway, email from Drew, I was in a club. This was inspired by a medical discussion about urine.

Drew says I was in a club in London a few years back. When we arrived, it was odd to see that the vast majority of people in this club were women, which that alone is kind of funny to think that. He's like, that's weird. And then she was like, eventually we realized the ratio in the club is actually normal, but that almost every man in the bar was packed into the bathroom. Because in the bathrooms, there were trough urinals that had LCD touchscreens in the wall of the urinal. And you could play the classic space invaders video game by shooting the spaceships with your piss.

Wow. Oh, that's amazing. And every guy was packed into the bathroom. Shearing on the other dudes at the urinal and preparing to switch out the guys peeing to keep the game going like hockey lines. Oh my God. People like throwing bets down, making parleyes. And the Drew writes it was the most incredible night of my life. Like high-fiving.

That's such an awesome idea, but it's also such a terrible idea if you own a club. Why would you want all of your patrons to just be jammed into the bathroom the whole time? Well, Craig, you think about it. Bu guys are just like buying like beer and being like to drink more to keep the piss going. That's true. They should be selling out. alcohol in the bathroom. That's the move.

That's such a good idea. Maybe just make me club the bathroom. It's just a bathroom club. That's good, actually. Just sell the beer. And then also all the guys who don't want to talk to the women are just like in the bathroom. They're like, there you go. Yeah.

Maybe you don't even allow women. It's just a male pee club. Oh my God. Just a same space for bros to watch sports and piss. Yeah. Like it's just a gentleman's club and you're like, you know, women like think it's just like strippers and cocaine, but actually it's just dudes pissing in urinals trying to play space invaders. Dude, Matt love going to the bathroom. You know what I mean? Like, we're in there for 20

minutes. We're on our phones. We're taxed in. We're listening to things. Just make it bigger. Just merge a bar in a bathroom. Oh my God. You're going to have to have like really good, like, airflow in there, I feel like. Yeah, I'm not sure how the smell situation would work. Get the HVAC going really high. We're not letting Patrick Mahomes in. We're not letting Patrick Mahomes in. He was so in line of bar. there's something like i say it's like it's like adding televisions to the like adding bathrooms to theaters with televisions in them so you don't miss any part of the movie the gentleman's piss club

they can talk about new words or new sentences being invented all right honey i'm headed out going to the piss club game six is tonight it's nothing sexual it's just a piss club find a new slant speaking to which way DK what was the you said your friend texted you about you the wildest thing you said

about the Harry Potter shooting ropes as Petronus No this was on Twitter and this a tweeted at me that she was listening and cracking up about the you know the Petronus wizard ropes

coming out of the wand and she got rear-ended like right then and she said it felt like a punishment from baby Jesus. But everyone was okay. And the lady, Fermanissa,

the lady who hit me was really nice. She didn't seem like an agent of a vengeful God or anything like that. So it all worked out. You told me that. I couldn't believe it because we got two different emails from people who are like, you can't just talk about froth a year

and what I'm driving to work. Like I almost died. It's a good expression where you're like, I was laughing so hard. I almost crashed. But this person actually got in a crash. That's actually, that's a good.

Emails at rangerfincyfootball. Gmail. If you have a story of actually laughing so hard at saying my mom did that. But can you imagine someone like going out that way? They're like, we're just talking about that. Yeah, gentlemen's piss club. And like, my God. That's a great idea.

It was such a great idea. I crashed. They just wake up in heaven. You're like, oh, what did you in? Mine is the Drake song Child's play. I almost died. My mom was driving and I was trying to pitch her out like, Drake is a sense of humor. like, what do you mean?

And I played Child's Play, and there's a line in Child's play where it's like, it's the one who's like, why do you got to take me to cheat? Like, he's arguing with the woman. Why you got to fight with me at cheesecake? I love, you know I love to go there. It plays for families who drive Camry's. And then he keeps going. And he's like, and then he just like switches and he's like,

you go to CVS for Kotex in my Bugatti. And my mom literally almost drove into a ravine. We literally swerved. That's huge. I feel like if Drake heard that, he'd be proud. Dude, yeah, it's good at Drake. You almost killed my mom. Hit on her now.

That co-text line really hit. All right. That's all we got. Drive safe for everyone. Seat belts. Please. Cornerback, strap. That's podcasters, too.

We can do that. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you, Kai, for producing this episode. Thank you, Jack. Thank you, Tucker. Everyone behind the scenes. Thank you, Lorne. Lauren.

Thank you, the Lonely Island. Ooh, yeah. Nice. Not only is Hot Rod a great movie, but Popstar underrated. I got to say. I never saw that, Craig. That's funny. I saw it like in the moments.

I don't know how it's age. Never stop. Yes. Never stopped. Such a subtitle? I believe so. But the music is really good. I mean, the three of those guys,

Yorma and Akiva and Andy Sandberg, on SNL, like every week they just came out with a banger. I could go, like if I, I don't do this a lot, but like a YouTube wormhole or whatever it's called rabbit hole, where you just, I could go and watch all the Lonely Island videos.

and I would get stuck doing that for like two hours. They're just so fucking good. And the music, honestly, is not bad. Oh, it's great. The song's actually a slab, I think. Like, Lazy Sunday and all. There's a million of them. I mean, they did dick in a box.

That was like a fucking... People can... If you're on a boat, I'm on a boat's a sick song. People can hate it on it, but it's like it always hits when you're on a boat to play on a boat. They have a really funny sketch to the Jason Derulo song, What Just Say? Do you seen that one where they're just like shooting each other? Yes.

Like, at the end scene of a movie? So good. Oh, my God. Marry a man. What's the song where they get? The Spring Breakers Anthem or whatever. That is like the fucking funniest song. I love that song so much.

The Shy Ronnie with Rihanna. Oh, yeah. It's just, oh, man. Anyways. Get him to Gentleman's Piss Club. Go down the rabbit hole, the Lonely Island YouTube rabbit hole.

That's what I'm going to do later. What you say? Oh, I just had sex. That's another huge one. with A-Con dude, that song's good That song is legitimately good All of them are good man

They're fucking good You could play Give it like two more years You could play I just had sex to the Zoomers But then not They wouldn't know it's a parody Oh 100%

Dude the song from Popstar They're like who is this The song from Popstar It's called Finest Girl Parentheses bin Laden song And it goes She told me fuck me Like we fucked bin Laden

That's like the chorus Oh my God. He goes, Ooh, this girl was a freak. She wanted to fuck me like the U.S. government fuck me in Liding. All right, goodbye, everyone. Must be 21 plus and present in select states.

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