The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking the 2023 Fantasy Lessons to Tattoo on Our Bodies

Episode Date: January 4, 2024

We inevitably forget the lessons we vowed to always remember by the time the next draft season comes around, so today we power rank the lessons from the 2023 season to tattoo on our bodies, like Guy Pearce in the movie ‘Memento.’ Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! [e-mail]. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out theringer.com/RG to find out more, or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady and Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Goodbye, everyone. Thank you, Lord. Lauren. Thank you, the animals. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you, Eduardo, for producing this crazy episode where, like, you know, everyone listening. Thank you for listening because it's like we do this crazy episode. We try to remember all the lessons from last season for next season, but then we never remember

them anyway, so like memento, we tattoo them on our bodies, but then memento's out of order, so we do the whole show out of order, and I feel like it weren't great, and no one's confused at all. Yeah, that was an awesome show that we already did. that that we recorded in reverse, and that was the whole bit. You guys all get it, right? Everyone gets it. Everyone knows what's going on. I wish Memento was slightly more popular of a film, you know? I wish I'd seen it.

You haven't seen Memento? It's like how we hadn't seen The Purge for a while and doing the Tate purge. I just saw the purge this year. Yeah, I think I actually have seen it, but it was so long ago, I truly don't actually remember it. Well, so the only thing you know about Memento is that it's out of order, D.K. I know the, I know the schick of it. That's kind of all you need to.

No, really. I know something about someone killing someone's family, and that's about it. Christopher, it's Christopher Nolan and it's backwards. It was Arthur Smith. Yeah, Arthur Smith killed the family anyway. So, yeah, so we're going to power rank. No, we already power ranked. Oh, sorry, we already power ranked.

Yes, we've already power ranked the lessons that we want to remember from the 2023 season because every year we're going to 2024 and we just get amnesia. We don't remember anything. We don't remember the takeaways. We just do the same stuff, condemned to repeat the same mistakes of old. But what are we going to do? Remember stuff? No, that's what it doesn't make any sense.

You know what this could have been? And I'm just thinking about this at the end of the show. But this could have been also fantasy New Year's resolutions, but, you know, maybe for next year. Oh, well, yeah, we'll have to tattoo that at the end to do a different bit next year. So, yeah, for now, we're just going to already look at our tattoos that we've already gotten of things that we're getting tattooed in our body so we don't forget. And I guess we'll do that in backwards order, too. Like we have 15. We already power ranked them from 15 to 1.

Okay. So we'll go 15 or 1 to 5. What do we start? We'll start 15. Okay. Great. All right. So without for the two,

it's like how Memento starts at the end of the movie. You know, like we are starting at the end of the power ranking. If we were doing this really true to form, wouldn't we just be speaking in backwards, like in reverse? Well, like Black Sabbath records? It's ridiculous. Wasn't there like in Ace Ventura?

He like, no, let's see that in the reverse angle. Do the whole pod that way. So we're going to do this power our style. Pray for Eddie here producing this one because, I mean, God, just trying to drop in Tom, Tom, Fresh. But yeah, we're going to, every two minutes, you're going to hear this sound. Great song. And frankly, I got to warn you. I don't know how much we're going to adhere to the whole two.

A lot of disrespect for Tom coming. But without further ado, the lessons are taking. We should also say that this is the last power hour, I believe. Oh, yeah. This is our last power hour of the year. Now, we still will be having Wednesday episodes through the season. We're going to be doing the NFL draft show through the Super Bowl. We're going to have So luck on.

So Wednesdays, you're listening to us wherever you're listening to us on Wednesdays or Thursdays, whatever. We're still going to be getting you our NFL draft show on this episode every week. But power hour, you know, unless we tattoo on our body to stop doing. it, we're going to, you know, your last one for 9 to 10 months here, so. Nine months? Wow. Weird.

Eight? I can't count. I don't know. When do we start doing it? Like in September? Definitely not 10. Nine months? Yeah, you're right. Ten was definitely wrong.

Okay. Without further ado, our top 15 in backward reverse order. So number 15, lessons, takeaways from the 2023 fantasy football season. I have, this is probably a terrible one to start with, but I just have don't fight the last war. Okay, so what's that mean? It's like, you know that saying like every general is fighting in the last war?

It's like every walk of life people overcorrect, right? You're driving. It's like there's a deer and it's like you're going to swerve it. You flip your car over when you then overcorrect the other way. Like that's life. And so every year in fantasy, like I think my caveat for everything we're about to talk about is you want to take the lessons away from a season. However, there's going to be like one or two lessons that everyone agrees on and just completely ignore those lessons. We have to take the grain of salt that it's like the, like the last couple of years,

the things everyone agreed on then completely went away. Like the running back dead zone was the thing. It was like, oh, the running backs between loosely between like 40 and 80 were often terrible values. Guess what? They were incredible values this year. That's where Isaiah Pacheco was and David Montgomery was and Rashad White, like league winning running backs were there because everyone agreed on it.

So I would like to bookmark a couple of these obvious lessons as we go through them that if everyone's talking about these things in seven months, as things to learn from, then like, eh, don't even worry about it. Just do some laser surgery, get that removed from your body. Yes. Literally, yeah, literally D-Kitt's exactly what I'm saying. It's one of our tattoos should be get one of these tattoos removed. Interesting.

So you're basically just saying to Zach, just like when everyone zigzags. Yeah, so this was the age thing, right? Like we talked a lot about, and I'm sure we'll get to it later, but like one of the things, everyone was like, oh, we've got to be out on old people. We've got to be in on the youth. But everyone agreed on that. And then the olds were all great values. It's like there's always something like that

and the one that everyone's kind of baking in needs to be killed. Yeah, I'm into this. I like this. It's fade to public. What are some examples? Do you remember some examples where everyone agreed on like one particular guy?

And I think maybe Tony Pollard comes to mind. I don't know if it was us. That's the tattoo we have to get removed. I have Tony Pollard's number and last name tattooed on my back. I have to get that removed. Oh, man. He just has hollered across him. In our defense, I feel like we even said on that

Bill Simmons episode, we're like, if we all agree on this, this is going to go horribly, horribly wrong, isn't it? All right. Next up here. Number 14, tattoos. Tattooing on our body. Craig. This kind of dovetails off what you were saying, Hyvitz. But mine is, nothing is as good or as bad as it seems.

And I kind of try to take that with me in my everyday life. You know, when you're having a really bad day, things are probably not as bad as they seem. And when you're sky high, things are probably not as good as they seem. And I really do feel that way about fantasy football where it's like, look, the Rams coming into this year, everybody thought, you know,

they were in contention to have the worst record in the league. I know Sal bet that. It was like the Rams are this disaster. They've collapsed. Only a year after winning the Super Bowl, they were a mess now. It's like, in reality, a team with Sean McVeigh,

Matt Stafford, Cooper Cup, probably not going to be the worst team in the league. Things are probably not as bad as they seem. Russell Wilson had this horrific year Has he completely lost his mojo He signed this massive contract This year look He was the QB 13 in points per game

He wasn't bad The guy's a Hall of Famer He was fine Gino Smith Comeback Player of the Year Oh my God Gino has completely rewritten His entire narrative

And Gino Smith wasn't as good As he was last year Probably because we all knew that Probably you know It wasn't as good as it seemed Even like in a microcosm of this is Josh Dobbs this year right Josh Dobbs

Has three all the backup quarterbacks It's like nothing is as good or as bad as it seems. Dude, what's the drill tweet of it's like the wise man bowed his head and said there's zero difference between good and bad things, you imbecile, you fucking idiot. That was my tweet that represents the state of quarterbacks this year.

There's literally no good quarterbacks had no bad quarterbacks. There's no difference between them. We had freaking Joe Flacco come back and be absolutely incredible. Did not see that coming. He's been arguably been better than he has been his entire career other than that like three game stretch of the playoffs in 2012. So yeah, I think this, to me, Craig, what you're saying is come over here into this gray area. There's plenty of room to live in the gray area.

It doesn't have to be one thing or the other. You got to live in between hot takes. That's what it is. You can't swing to any which side of the pendulum, you know? I can't wait to do the take, purge. Next up, D.K., we have number 13. Lessons from 20, 23 season. The tight end drought is over.

We're back. Tight end is back. The thing that we learned this year, I think, is the juice isn't worth a squeeze on taking the early guys in drafts. Like, in the past, going high on Travis Kelsey, Mark Andrews, drafting one of these really highly regarded tight ends. Like, that bought you a huge advantage in your league because you had guys that were scoring so much more than the other tight ends in like the top 12 or whatever. This year, honestly, it's kind of flat. There's like a bunch of guys. that can get you 10 points in any given week.

Next year, like, baking in a little bit of development from some of these guys. There's, like, a list of, like, 15 to 20 guys. I think that could have pretty big roles on their teams and get you that, like, quote unquote, tight end one type of season, even if it's not necessarily going to be, like, super high end. So the lesson, which this could be the one that we get removed from our back next year, is weight on tight end. You know what's interesting about tight end this year, next year, I should say? is it's crazy that, you know,

we've been in a dark period for so long and now spring has finally sprung at the tight end position. I think Travis Kelsey is going to be a pretty good value next year, don't you guys? Yeah, I cried you beat me to it. If he doesn't retire, yeah.

That's true. He's going to go like 40th and whoever takes him is going to win their league. Like, you just wait a hundred percent. Like he got hurt week one this year, I believe, and he probably like just hasn't been the same sense. And although he's 34 years old, like, in reality, I mean, Travis Kelsey,

like barely wasn't the tight end one this year. So I do think he's probably, you're gonna probably get him for half what you got him for this year. It's like if things are never as good or as bad as you think they are. Look, I should get that tattoo.

It's words to live by. Yeah. It's true though. If you just think about it's weird too because the changing of the guard, Kelsey having a bad season if you got hurt, Hawkinson coming off a torn ACL, Mark Andrews had a season 80 injury.

And then you got like Sam LaPorter, Trey McBride and Joku's good, Angram. It's like the top end of all these tight ends. It's like a total jumble. Yeah. Yep. All right. Number 12 here. Number 12, last in fantasy season,

2023. I have weight. It's not your fate, which... Ooh, I love this one. It's so... There is a true C-Chage here. It's like, you know, we're now in a body positivity. No more body shaming. Size truly doesn't matter. No, yeah. No more Craig being like, I don't like C.D. lamb. Lamb, he's too, like, wiry on his bones. It's like C.D. Lamb's like a top three receiver in the NFL. I forgot about that take. Yeah. And it's like... I do think he's, I do think he's bulked up a little bit.

All these small receivers, though, like, tanked L for the Texans is like, what, yay high? And he just was absolutely incredible for Houston. Yeah, that was his official measurement at the combine. Yay high. Yay, apostrophe high. Josh Downs is, what, 5 foot 8? These guys, like, literally way less than, there are high school receivers trying to, like, get into college that way more than these guys that were good. Devante Smith's Greg Dorch.

She's, like, actually been good last month. But that's a receiver. It's, like, small. these five foot eight guys. Tank that was playing at outside receiver, not just slot. But then also, it's not just height,

it's weight at running back. Shout out to Hayden Winks, that underdog, who was on this, the off season, and he kept kind of beating the drum that last year in 2022, the top 20 fantasy running backs on average

weighed like 220 pounds. This year, you got Devani Chan, his 188 pounds was incredible, but also got goal and work. Jamir Gibbs is 200 pounds, probably a little less than that. He was incredible.

James Cook was more on and off, but 190 pounds. Kiron Williams, 5 foot 9, 194 pounds. Kiron Williams was a three-down, every down back, the single most valuable player

you could have drafted at cost or added on fantasy was Kiron Williams, 194 pounds. And so running backs that are under 200, whatever, receivers under 510, whatever, like,

I guess you don't got to be that big to play football in a league where you can just get crushed. Look, everything follows Hollywood, you know? Getting skinny is back in Hollywood. I don't know if you guys have heard.

People are getting their BBLs removed. Skinny is back. It's like the early 2000s again. You know what I mean? Cigarettes and no dinner is kind of the new vibe in Hollywood. And now all these running backs are snatched. Tank del, just ripping Sigs. Do you remember Keaton Mitchell for a minute there before he got hurt?

He was like incredible for the Ravens. I remember Sean Payton was talking about this recently, actually, when they featured, shoot, what's his name, McLaughlin? Julile McLaughlin. From Notre Dame College? Right. Um, they featured him in a game kind of over, uh, Javonte Williams because he like, they liked how he could kind of like stretch the field a little bit defensively, get around the edge,

um, give them that little boost and speed. And I feel like, I mean, this is not anything new, of course, but like, explosive plays are really important in the run game. And like, when you have an explosive run on any, or pass on any particular drive, it like, it makes the odds that you're going to score touchdown or score points on that drive. Like, it's so much higher. It's like exponential two or three times high. And so that's why I think part of the reason

these smaller running backs are kind of back in vogue. It's less like establishing the run. It's more about creating explosives. Also that plus the cocaine and adderil, DK. Cigarettes, yeah. All right. Number 11, Craig. Do not trust one-year wonder running backs.

Guys who pop, here's the definition of a one-year wonder. It is a guy who pops in year two to four of their career with kind of no warning, right? it's like Tony Pollard and everybody was out, you know, Josh Jacobs going nuts. He had three solid years and then just out of nowhere led the league in rushing on a mediocre team.

Even Ramandre Stevens, to an extent, kind of blew up last year. So heading into 2024, I think there's some candidates. And I think the qualifications are you kind of got to be like a later round drafted guy out of the draft.

You have stats that seem unsustainable, aka high points per touch, odd variables, the backup narrative, So here are some of the guys this year that I think could be next year's Tony Pollard or Josh Jacobs. We have Devon A chain. Which is a bad thing to be clear. A bad thing.

Yes. Not 2022 Tony Pollard and Josh Jacobs. 2023 Tony Pollard and Josh Jacobs. You're trying to tell me that Devon A. Chan's not going to average 10 yards of carry forever. I know it sucks, but you have to look at dead on. How dare you? The Tony Pollard's going to be whoever just broke their leg in January that we're pumping up in August. Fair.

Rashad White, I think, is a candidate, a mediocre weird bucks team, and Rashad White didn't even average four yards of carry, had an awesome year. Brian Robinson, DeAndre Swift and the Eagles, and then, honestly, if Jalen Warren becomes the starter next year, like if Najee Harris is not on the Steelers next year, which I think he will be, but let's say he's not.

Jalen Warren is the perfect candidate for this Tony Pollard category. So just be wary of these guys who weren't expected to be stars in the league that kind of became stars in one random season. Just be wary to inflate. their value heading into next season. One of the things I love and hate about fantasy is like how many

variables are present on any given team at any moment. You know what I mean? Like going to next year, I think Rashad White's a perfect example of this. It's like if the Buccaneers get basically any running back that they don't already have on the roster in, and he's like decently good. Like he could lose,

Rashad White could lose a lot of his like early down work. He had like 250 carries this week this year. It was never really efficient. never really looked that great on the ground. He's a really good pass catching running back. But in terms of like his volume, the pieces just kind of fell in place for him to have a massive amount of volume on this team. And also adding the fact Baker Mayfield was wildly more productive than we expected.

That could regress next year. They might not even have Baker Mayfield. There's just so many variables that go into like a season like Rashad White that it makes it very hard to project this type of year, year in and year out. This is what makes it so hard to play like Dynasty football, for instance. like you can't count your chickens like for any of these guys or for a lot of these guys. So I think that's just a really interesting point. Hi Fitz.

We're going to disrespect Tom Tom here. If you had to select one person who is the Tony Pollard of 2024, who would you pick? Wow. I think it has to be H.N. Because H.N. Pollard, if you think about Pollard, it was score. Like the Tony Pollard in 2022 led the NFL, I believe, in Russian touchdowns. of 20 plus yards, scores from outside the red zone, scores from outside the 10-yard line.

I think he led the NFL in 50-yard touchdowns, all this stuff, rushing, receiving. And we were like, well, he probably can't have 11 touchdowns from outside the red zone again, but he'll make that up with goal line work. And we were right about not having the big explosive plays, but then he just couldn't punch in the freaking goal line work that he got.

And so if I look at him, but he just could capitalize. And he couldn't score. And then if we look at a guy where we were like, I saw that guy play and it was transcendent. he must do that again. I feel like A. Chan's going to be the guy that captures your sex appeal and you know, you kind of, you have to be bonked a little.

A. Chan seems like the bonk in chief. Do you guys think it's fair to put Kyron Williams in this category? I did not because I felt like there are less variables going on and I do feel like it's real. But I suppose if the Rams drafted a third round running back, things could change. But do you think Kyron Williams belongs in this category? I think you probably want to like have a small amount of apprehension about it. but the way that McVeigh coaches and the way that he

tends to utilize his running backs makes me more confident in Karen Williams than most of the other guys here. So I, this bleeds perfectly to my next one, which we can start the clock here that we've already disrespected anyway. So I have, this is,

the tattoos probably just trust your eyes, but I feel like the other one, I wish I had a pithier one of it. Just pretend everyone's a first rounder. I kind of want to just get a tattoo on my back, just like everyone's a first rounder. Yeah. And it's just, we struggle to adapt

or update our prior beliefs. It's just in our DNA. Brock Purdy's Mr. Irrelevant. So it's hard for us to ever accept that he might be good. So Moneross St. Brown was what? Like a fourth round pick. Hard to accept that a Monro? Like even in 2021,

when he like led the league and catches for the finals, half of the season almost. Like, well, it's not good though. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, well, you know what I mean?

It's just hard to accept the Monrose. Devante Adams did not have the first two good years in the NFL. When he had 11 touchdowns in year three, it was like, that's an aberration, was not. Kurt Warner. Like it goes on and on.

It's like, we didn't expect you to be good. I'm resolving to pretend everyone who's been good in the NFL was the first. I'm going to pretend that they're a first rounder. I'm going to pretend Brock Purdy's a first rounder. I'm going to pretend that Isaiah Pacheco was the first rounder. I'm going to Pooka Nekua for the Rams. Nico Collins and Tank Dell for the Texans, Jaden Reed for the Packers, and Dantavion who was the sixth rounder, Trey McBride, tied under the Cardinals,

Jake Ferguson and the Cowboys. All these guys were not drafted high in real life. I'm going to pretend we're taking a first round in real life. And then I'm going to look at the first round in real life. production and I'm going to just take them. I'm not going to have any freaking questions about it. What if I apply this directly to Devon A. Chan, though, which I'm absolutely going to. I think it's fair to take running backs out of it, though.

I think, I think it's, if you want to delete running backs in the category, but quarterbacks receivers tight ends, I want to delete our concept. I feel like running backs are dependent on so many other things. When you're saying this, it makes me just think, like, embrace, embrace the feeling of having childlike wonder. Like, holy crap, that guy's amazing. Like, I don't have to, like, have any comments to it. Trust your five cents.

You know? Yeah. I feel the same way about food hype. It's where it's like, look, if a Michelin Star restaurant just brought me a double double from in and out, I would say this is the greatest burger I've ever had in my life. So just admit that in and out is that good, even if it costs $5 from a fast food restaurant. It's easy for me to say, and here's what I mean, though. If you have the 12th pick in a snake draft in a 12-team draft, you can just take

Kyron Williams 12th and you can just take Bukiduku with her teeth. I don't care. And like, that sounds crazy. Kairan, oh my God, it's a fourth runner. Now, yes, if the Rams, like, add it into the running. But if the Rams don't draft a running back in the first five rounds this year, just Kairan, yeah, Puka, take him 15th. I don't care.

Like, that's what I'm, like, just take it. Like, that's how good these guys are. It's fine. Don't worry about it. Because if Puka was in the first round, and we expect him to be good, and you took him this second round, no one would bat an eyelash.

But there's no reason Puka can't be as high as Garrett Wilson was this year. It's so funny going back and thinking about the Karen Williams arc. this year because literally in the off season, like Sean McVeigh was like just gushing over Cam Acres. You know what I mean? Like we were still thinking about Cam Acres last off season. It's just like wild to think about now because even in week one, I think Karen Williams got like 90% of the snaps or something like that.

It was like out of kind of out of left field it felt like. But that being said, like he absolutely established himself. And so we should believe that. Yeah. And I know we're belaboring the point, but it's like Nico Collins, Craig, I know you were like, oh, for running backs, I get it.

But people are going to be like, Nico Collins is like a non-traditional arc because he wasn't that good for a couple of years and then was really good. And that doesn't happen a lot. I know it doesn't happen a lot. And we shouldn't expect to try and go out of our way to find the next Deco Collins. But it happened to Nico Collins and I saw it and I won't be talked out of it. That's why you did intend to. I agree with that.

The next one here I got here. This is number nine lessons from the 2023 season. Greg, you have only take running backs on winning teams. I know that sounds pretty simple, but. You kind of forget that when you get intoxicated by all the stats and the numbers and the metrics and the projections of all these sexy running backs coming into next year. If you look at the top 10 scoring running backs this year, it takes you nine of them before you can find one that isn't on a team making the playoffs. And that's Breece Hall at number 10. He's the first guy not making the playoffs.

The rest are all up there. Most are Gibbs and Montgomery, Rashad White, Kyron Williams. All of these guys are on over 500 teams. And it sounds so simple, but it truly does mean something to just have a player that is on the team that is likely in a winning game script and has competent coaches, play callers, and a quarterback. And that matters. It brings consistency to your performance. You're less reliant on some big play or, you know, hoping somebody gets three catches to boost your score. It's like, no, if you have David Montgomery, if you have Travis E. TN, these guys are going to put up points every week because they're on competent good teams. I love this one It's like

Nothing is more frustrating Than having a running back Who has like been playing really well The guy that comes to my mind is Brian Robinson Who early in the season was looking so good Like he was running really well You know like explosive breaking tackles He looked awesome

But as soon as they start playing from behind He like almost disappears from the game plan There's nothing more frustrating than watching commanders get behind early And then you're like well I guess Brian Robinson's not doing anything in this game You know what I mean? So it's like so hard to rely on those guys we can week out. It's like, you know, we have to remember that going into next year that like,

but also part of this is like identifying which seems to be good. True. But like, you know, guys like Derek Henry next year. Like those guys are going to be. It's just really hard to trust because like if Will Levis as a starting quarterback, this team's going to win four or five games probably next year. And it's like Derek Henry is a guy who his splits when they win versus when they lose are some of the starkest in the league.

So you need to be wary of those guys and you can't just judge these running backs based on talent alone. And if Derek Henry goes to the Ravens, look the hell out. Look the fuck out, yeah. Well, like Josh Jacobs is a good example. That's why that one weird year with Josh Jacobs

kind of threw everybody off dissent. But in general, it's like Josh Jacobs was the RB19 this year. It's like, it's just hard when they're winning five games. Right. Six games. Next up here, we have number eight lessons we want to remember for 2020. This is a tattoo that's already been on my body for a few years. So maybe I'm just like coming in and doing some shading.

You know, like a drop shadow, something like that. Filling it in a little. But making it a full sleeve. Yeah. Yeah. Fill it in some stuff I don't really like from before, you know, like just covering that. Covering your ex-girlfriend's name. This one is about keep investing in rookie wide receivers. I say this every year.

Is that the tattoo? The kids are. all right is the tattoo. Where does that phrase come from? I don't know. I think it was like an old song from like the 60s or something. Okay. I don't know the etymology of that expression though. But anyways, so basically going back like the last four or three, three or four years,

it happens almost every year. Justin Jefferson, his rookie year. Finish as a wide receiver seven despite barely playing for the first two weeks. So in other words, like don't, the lesson I think is like don't, don't, freak out if you're if you're rookie wide receiver that you've either drafted or you have on your have like on your radar for like a midseason waiver wire pickup like don't freak out if they're not doing anything early on jalen wattle another guy that did barely nothing uh for the first six weeks of the season and then from there on it's like a top 10 receiver uh in 2021 jamaher

chase did the same thing chrisel watson in 2022 chrisel lave last year garrattrude wilson last year this year this year we got two guys that really fit this category rsie rice for the chiefs uh from week 12 on, he's been the wide receiver six. Even going back to week seven, so like more than half of the year here, he's been the wide receiver 13. Like he's been really, really useful to you. And then the other guy to mention here is Jaden Reed for the Packers who, since week 10. So like eight games.

He's been the wide receiver nine. He's averaging 15 points a game. Jaden Reed is a good example of a guy where next year we're going to be like, well, he had like, what, nine touchdowns? And that's unsustainable. But I'm like, I know. But when I watch Green Bay, I feel like Matt LaFey. Flores, like, Shaden Reed's the only guy

I want to have the ball trying to get in the end zone. Like, he got nine touchdowns because he's their best player. His touchdowns, I mean, obviously touchdowns as a stat are a little bit fluky, but like he, to me, he passes the eye test. He looks really good. It doesn't feel fluky. Yeah, he's incredible. Obviously, Puka and Tank, I didn't mention Puka and Nakua and Tank Dell, both guys extremely

useful, but they started out, they like started out hot and then just never got cold, essentially. So, Tank Dell's interesting because he falls into the Tony Tony Pollard category. of don't draft guys who just broke their leg. So, we'll see. Also, his bones, pretty skinny. Little baby bird bones.

Not hard to snap. His hollow, feeble bones. Feeble. Five foot seven, eight pounds, was it, nine pounds, eight ounces? He was a man. He had a beard. I like the baby version. He was a man.

My grace. Oh, my God. I love the way. he's talking to you, Chip. Sure as heck does. That's one of the greatest Seeds. Love that money.

Love those stars. He can't just talk to me that way. Sure as I can. Sure as heck does. All right. Number seven here. Lessons from the 2020 season. Tattoo on my body. I have a tattoo just across my chest that says

Arthur Smith murdered my family. Yeah. This is in... I'm not drafting thousands. This is in reverse font so you can like it in the mirror. What's the memento tattoo? Don't trust Sammy Jankis or whatever it is. That's Arthur Smith.

John G. It's I'm not doing it. I don't care what happens. Like I would be convinced only if they literally go and get Justin Fields or a quarterback that I, that would be exciting. But if Arthur Smith is the coach, I swear to God, if I have Drake London on my team next year, I'm going to stop playing fantasy football. Like I, like these,

The Falcons. Kyle Pitts, Kyle Pitts, I actually think is going to be the easiest Falcon to draft just because there's so many tight ends now that Kyle Pitts is going to be your backup tight end and you can cut him.

Who cares? He's your 14th round pick. He might not get drafted. Yeah, yeah, my God. He's a 14th round upside. He's a perfect upside pick.

He's a by low, 14th round pick. Like, but Beijon Robinson, Drake London, these guys are going to require like high picks. I can't do it with this guy anymore. Like,

he has problems that he's working out of his own starting lineup. And I, like, you know what? Craig and I, I don't want to say the word, but we're almost 30. And we can't keep toxic people in our lives. Arthur Smith's a toxic guy. He's out.

I was going to say, this is exactly what I was going to say, hi, Vince. It's like if you have a friend who's just, like, kind of dragging you down. What I was thinking of is, do you see the movie up in the air with George Clooney, how his whole, like, his whole schick, he's basically, he's, basically, like, your life is this backpack. I know it's weird. That's part of it. He also goes and travels and does these little like conferences things.

Anyways, part of it is like he has this back. He's like, your life is in this backpack. Take the stuff out. Take stuff out. You only have so, you can only carry so much weight.

And obviously, I think over the course of the movie, he like disagrees with his own thesis at some point. But I do think in fantasy, there's something there. I don't ever want to have to think about Arthur Smith. I don't want his weight. I don't want to carry the weight of the world

in Arthur Smith on my shoulders next year. I don't want to have anything to do with this guy. I'm done. I'm not draft any of these players. I don't care how good of a value there. I don't care how good Drake London is. Someone else can draft them. I don't give a shit.

That's a good tattoo to lighten your backpack because I think, you know, Bill Simmons says this great rule for NBA teams. You can have like one crazy guy, but you can't have two because they'll hang out. I think that we need to have like a fantasy version of that where it's like you can have like one chaotic life training situation on your team. You can have multiple. So it's like if you're going to have like Cadarious Tony on your chiefs on your team and you're going to hang on to him.

Cool. But then don't also have Drake London. Like you can't have two separate completely infuriating players from different teams. You need one infuriating situation. Like no one wants Kyle Pitts and Cadarious Tony. Well, because there's always the world burn. Well, then there's one accidental, you know, Caratadish Tony where you get like a Chris Godwin where you're just like ripping your hair out every week and you had no idea. You never planned on that.

You know, life hits you in the face. It's a good lesson going into 30, you know. Oh, you know what, screw it. I'm going out of order. I have one. Okay. You both put this verbatim. Age before beauty.

We put the same exact expression. Both verbatim. I'm going to let Craig go first, but for verbatim, you both wrote age before beauty. By the way, Craig and I both submitted lists to Hyphitz, and then he compiled the list. Yeah, I had my own list. So, like, I rank these. Craig and Dick and him every part. them, but then they both separately said.

I thought I confused the list for a second. I almost put this, I almost put this, but I thought it would be too long of a tattoo. It's a dumb and dumber quote. It's like, senior citizens, although slow and dangerous behind the wheel can still serve a purpose. And of course, I'm referencing Mike Evans, who finished as wide receiver seven and points for game. Keenan Allen, the wide receiver three. Devante Adams, who now 31 years old, I believe, wide receiver 20, he was still very useful. Adam Thielen for like half the season was winning you weeks.

Rahim Moster was one of the most valuable players in fantasy. And I mean, like Joe fucking Flacco coming in out of nowhere, off the top rope, and just like propelling you to a championship because he was throwing to like David and Joku and Amari Cooper. You could have gotten a huge, huge discount on all these guys. And it's basically just because they're out of vote because they're old. Damn straight. I will be drafting Cooper Cup next year. I mean, look, a 31-year-old running back led the league in rushing touchdowns,

a 28-year-old running back led the league in catches in 12 games, Alvin Camara. toss in Amari Cooper. You mentioned Flacco. Amari Cooper's nearing 30. He's been awesome again this year. I mean, look, our presidents as old as he's ever been. Our action stars are as old as they've ever been. They're fucking doing CGI to make guys look younger.

They can't find any new actors. Indiana Jones is 80 years old. Look, we have cryotherapy. We have red light therapy. We have everything under the sun now, all right? Times are different. People are getting new jaw lines put in. Times are different.

A 30-year-old now is not the same as a 30-year-old 20 years ago. A 30-year-old last, like in the 50s, looked like he was about 65. Dude, if you go back and what, like, if you look at like Gene Hackman when he was 35, versus like Miles Teller, they look like father and son. We have, Greg, I don't want to break your heart here,

but we have like eight months until you turn 30, so which means we have eight months. We have to rebrand 30. We just need to rebrand it. I think, right now, I just am watching Queen Charlotte, like the Bridgeton, and they don't say 17 years old. They say, I am 10 and 7.

Or I am 7 and 10. I am 20 and 10. You're 10 and 20. Yeah. It's like that's, and there we go. So it's like Derek Henry's not going to be 30 next year. Derek Henry's turning 10 and 20. No, and you know my theory.

You're in your 20s until you have kids, then you're in your 40s. So I will still be in my 20s until I have children. Don't you go dying on me? Get the knife out with the other nap. So that was number two in our power rankings. We're going to jump back down here at six. Number six, lessons from the 2020 season, DK, you have looked to the Wonderkins. Speaking of old people, these coaches are arguably younger than these players that we were just talking about.

So take that for what you will. But look to the Wonders, young coaches. That's the sweet spot right now. That's what we're talking about right here. Basically, if you look at, if you look across the fantasy landscape, the teams and the play and the, in the play callers that got you the most fantasy points this year. Sean McVeigh, absolute fucking funnel offense to like his talk to guys. Slow dolphins, baby. Mike McDaniels.

The dolphins. Fast dolphins. Absolutely fast dolphins. Just bottle-nosed dolphins, maybe. Ben Johnson's lions, like every guy on the team was useful. Matt Fleur's Packers, extremely useful. Way more useful than I thought they'd be. Bobby freaking Slowick came out of nowhere out of this same sort of family of play callers.

And Texans' offense was amazing. identifying and basically stacking or really heavily investing in these types of offenses that you think are going to be on the cutting edge, getting guys in space, using a lot of motion, you know what I mean?

Like doing things that make life easy for the quarterback, all this stuff to me is like, I'm going to be focusing really heavily next offseason and next preseason on teams that have like the best play callers and can get the most out of their quarterbacks and do the most to help their quarterbacks. I completely agree. I think the play caller thing is absolutely massive for a variety of reasons.

It also can't stress enough how much joy it is to find, like, a player that's in a good offense. Watching players in good offenses versus watching the players in the bad office. You also didn't mention Kyle Shanahan. Oh, right. Well, I guess technically, like, these are all offshoots of the Shanahanee offense. That's a great point. I forgot to mention him. But yeah, I mean, like, it seems like such a simple thing, obviously. Like, we talk about this every offseason, like, find the good offenses.

But I think just digging a little deeper because, like, I think a couple of the guys, like, I remember being pretty, like, unsure of what the Dolphins offense was going to be this offseason. And so I think just trusting that these play callers are going to get the most other players is kind of like what I'm getting at. That goes right into Craig's next one. Greg, number five lessons for the fantasy season. You have only tick receivers with good quarterbacks. Get a good attorney. You know what I mean? Like, if you have a good attorney, you can go places, all right?

The difference is a good and a bad attorney. Yeah. Oh, no, it's like on the rest of the development. Oh, he's a worse. He's a pro. I have the worst fucking attorneys. I mean, it's the difference between life and imprisonment and not. You know what I mean?

And you don't want to be stuck in fantasy prison. If you look at just this year going through the wide receivers, 13 of the top 15 scoring wide receivers this year have quote unquote good quarterbacks there are only two without and that is DJ Moore

Justin Fields but you know I don't know if you consider him like a quote unquote good quarterback now and then the other one is later in the season but yeah right and the other one is Mike Evans who is an alien and I don't really count so yeah I mean look that's all it is there is no more frustrating feeling in fantasy than having

Terry McLaren like genuinely I think it's the worst thing. Arthur Smith is kind of his own category, but having somebody like Terry McClorin with whoever's the quarterback of Washington is the worst. And it's because you know you were smart, you know you picked a guy who was talented. You know McLaren if he was on the Chiefs would be a top 10 guy in the league. And you feel like you can do something about it, but you can't. You're helpless. So just play it safe. Draft Justin, oh, I guess Justin Jefferson with Kirk Cousins is a perfect example of like a guy, Kirk is right on that fringe. But like, you know. But he's good. Kirk's like not. The argument's the. The

he might never be elite. But Kirk's not a bad quarterback. No. So yeah, man. Desmond Ritter. Yes. So yeah,

you know what? Take Nico Collins because he has C.J. Stroud. Take Canaan Allen because he has Justin Herbert. Like, these are guys who will deliver no matter what, as long as they're healthy. I think the lesson here is not even so much of like,

take the good, take the receivers with the good quarterbacks, but it's also, I mean, this is obviously the same thing. Saying the same thing in a different way. Don't take the receivers with the bad ones. receivers with bad quarterbacks.

Like, it's a wasted pick. Just fucking takes a lot. The prairie yards. Yeah. Like, just the guys, you know, there's the thing of like air yards. And then there's like prayer yards. And I, that's used one way in analytics to be like, oh, that target shouldn't count because he's throwing out of bounds. I look at prayer yards as they're just praying that they get the ball.

Guys like DeAndre Hopkins, Garrett Wilson without Rogers, Chris Alave, like all that shit, Terry McCorrin. I'm good on all that. I don't want any of that. Like, I'd much rather take. Yes, it is genuinely toxic. I'd much rather take somebody. Just take a running back in that area or whatever. You know what wasn't fun?

Starting Chigoconquo and just hoping that like Will Levis or Ryan Tannahill would find Chigocon. Miserable experience. Just like not cool. And then he gets one pass and he drops it. And you're like, why do I do this? Why am I watching Thursday night football? Say what you will. I mean, George Pickens has like had a pretty good year.

But in general, like rooting for Deontay Johnson, Pat Friarmouth and George Pickens this year is a nightmare. Abominable. Yeah, most of the time I just have pickings on my bench. Like, what's the even point? You know. Adjacent to this, these are all, I think, kind of similar. But this one, D.K., you have number four lessons for 2024. You have winners take most.

Yeah, so this is like a, this is an expression I think they use in like the tech world, like winner take most. It's like companies like Google, you know, like doesn't have any major competitors, even though they technically do have some major competitors. They don't really. Like Uber, Airbnb, stuff like that. Right. And that's why, like, so many of these companies, like, just invest, invest, invest, invest.

They lose money for so long because they're trying to, like, get as much of the market as possible. And I think that you can apply this lesson a little bit to, like, the receiver position. Because especially in a market, like this year's market, in terms of the volume of passes going around. This is one of the worst offensive seasons in a long time. Quarterback play was the worst in a really long time. And so I feel like if you look around the league, like the wide receiver ones on certain teams did great. They survived. They, the winners took most.

They, they were doing just fine, even though, like, the economy was down. The guys who really struggled, wide receiver twos on their own team. Devante Smith, T. Higgins. I mean, you go. Jalen Waddle. How dare you omit Jalen Waddle? I actually had him on my list. I just forgot to say it because I hate you guys.

Likely story. Let me go through the list here real quick. Chris Godwin, another guy. Tyler Lockett, Deontay Johnson, Jerry Judy. And by the way, make sure you, can identify who is going to be the number one receiver. Going back to this time last year, sorry to like the preseason last year,

Chris Godwin was drafted ahead of Mike Evans. Deonti Johnson was drafted ahead of Pickens. Jerry Judy was drafted ahead of Courtham Sutton. So not only is it like avoiding, I think it's like kind of avoiding or not overreaching on wide receiver two's on their own team, but like identifying who is going to be the wide receiver one. Obviously that's an important thing.

But like... Toss in the corpse of Johan Dawson. Oh God. Yeah. Jeez. John Dotson's got to be up there with like one of the most frustrating and disappointing players to the entire season.

I haven't sold my stock. Well, you can't sell the dip. If Washington gets like Michael Pennix or something, I'm backed in on Dotson. There we go. But all this, I think all these, so number two, biggest lesson from the 2020s season.

I think we've kind of been building to this, but I think I have just stacks or hacks. And I think that this incorporates a lot of what we've been talking about, but basically whether or not you can do it, like one of the best things you can do is just, if you were able to do it, the most valuable thing you can do is identifying which offenses are going to be like, way, way better than you could have imagined.

Like, imagine in 2020, if you've gotten hurts and AJ Brown and Devontu Smith. When you first said that, I thought you met hacks like a phony, but you mean hack, like, to hack into a system, yes, like a short-cut life hack. No, it's a light, yeah, it's a stack is a life hack in that if, it's, yeah, stacks a life hack. So, like, it's weird because there were ones that you could and could not see coming. The Lions were kind of a team that if you had just actually believed in the Lions,

they were oddly, even though they got so much preseason hype, very acquireable. Like getting-a-Mondra St. Brown. Yeah, Monrus St. Brown. David Montgomery, Jemir Gibbs, like Jared Goff, like Sam Laporte. None of those guys were, like, expensive to acquire. Would have been very easy to get the whole lion's offense. The Dolphins, even, if you were able to get Tyree Kill, you only needed Tyree Kill, Jail and Walton and the top 100.

And then Moster and Jeff Wilson and Devon H. we're outside the top 100. You didn't even need Jail and Waddle anyway. Stacking the Dolphins. The ramps were like a waiver wire stack. Like freaking Kyra and Williams and Puka and Stafford probably was on waivers at some point. Like that's like a waiver stack. Honestly, you didn't even need cup.

Those offenses. Now, it's weird because the flip side is like some by definition you won't see coming. Like I don't think, I think that's like a best ball mentality where it's like a portfolio of risk. No one was going to be like, I have one league I do every year. I'm going to build it around the Houston Texans. Like that's insane. fun, especially when you would have David Pierce and not know, you know what I mean?

So I don't want to get too overboard with putting your whole life or out of team. That's a great episode idea for us to do, though, next year in August, is we should do like the team stack episode. And like which teams we would prefer to stack? Yeah, and I think it also goes in... Stacks or hacks. Stacks or hacks, life hacks. Because it goes in with the passets of the Italians where they're expensive ones like the dolphins

where you only need like three players. And then cheaper ones like the Texans, that's a dice roll. I love that one. Yeah. What number are we on? we have one more we're getting to one we're getting to 14 we're getting the last one here okay this is the tattoo going across our chest this is the no regrets around the neck

you guys both set one in but decays was funnier this is the same one for both you but d case is funny number one lesson from 2023 tkka you have mcalfre's the only one you can trust CMC baby he's the only good fantasy player just put that on here only good Never draft a running back

not named Christian McCaffrey in the first three rounds. Let's don't do it. I feel like our thesis or whatever got a little bit dampened by what happened in the final game of the season with CMC. We got hurt and pulled him. He had 13 in the first half. So that's fine.

It's not like he killed you. But basically the entire season, Chris McCaffrey's had like zero bad games and only good games. Like, he's been the only good fantasy player all year round. that guy. He was clear cut like the best player in fantasy from start to finish. So,

um, and it's a, it's a combination of amazing. A lot of the lessons that we talked about along this whole time, trust the wonderkins. Great offense. Um, remind me what else I'm missing here.

Don't worry. Volume. That's it. Like dependable volume. Um, but anyways, like yeah, he,

he just took so many boxes. Um, I know obviously people are always scared of the injury thing, which is valid, but at the end of the day. Every guy is risky. Every player's risky. Chris McCaffrey, easily number one pick. It was brutal this year.

I went back and looked at ADP, the average draft position for 20203 at running back. And here are the 15 guys, the first 15 guys drafted, according to Fantasy Pro's ADP. Christian McCaffrey, Austin Echler, Bejohn Robinson, Sequin Barclay, Nick Chubb, Tony Pollard, Derek Henry, Josh Jacobs, Najee Harris, Travis Eton, Ramondre Stevenson, Joe Mixin, Jamir Gibbs, Aaron Jones, and Damien Pierce. So of those 15 guys, the top 15, only five of them actually finished in the top 15 at the end of the year. So the shoe in running back that you took in the first three rounds, like the stalwart, the, you know, the fulcrum of your fantasy team had a 33% chance of working out this year. So just take Christian McCaffrey. And if you don't get him, just take wide receivers. Meanwhile, the people who did take Christian McCaffrey, 47% of them made the finals.

How many do you think one, though, because he only put up 13? probably less than that. Yeah, because he got the calf injury, so he left, so probably less. But think about that. I mean, that's almost basically half the people with Christian McCaffrey made their championship week. Half. Like, so you hit this draft player button in your draft. You five-xed your chances of making the total.

You could have auto-drafted after the first pick in the draft. Yeah, probably made it. I'm looking through our list of rules or tattoos or whatever this year. Age before Beauty checks that box. Look to the wonderkins checks that box. Only take running backs on winning teams, checks that box. Pretend everyone is a first rounder. Well, he was a first rounder.

In real life. He was a, he's a light guy. He's like 205 pounds. He's not on the falcons. Don't fight the last war. Maybe like that counts as like, don't be, everyone was kind of like afraid that he wouldn't get as much volume because of the way that they utilized. You were afraid to get hurt because, yeah, he had an injury.

Yeah, people were afraid to get hurt. The only thing he defies. We overcorrected. Yeah. The only thing he defied. defies is the nothing is as good or as bad as it seems. He is as good as it seems. Right, 100%.

He's the exception that proves that no one else is as good or bad as it seems because he's the only one. Yeah. Anyway, he's good. Chris McCaffrey. All right. The only good fantasy player. The only good fantasy player.

Yeah. All right. Just do CMC like the McTupac, like on your belly. CMC. I'm going to do the letter C like around my eye like Tyson. Yes, that's good. Like goggles. You can you see at the two Cs around the two eyes with the M connect to you.

There's something there. All right. There are your lessons. There are Mementa tattoos. There's any tattoo orders. Also, we had like people emailing us terrible tattoos and tattoos. They were graded less.

You could send us those if you want, but a minute since we had bad tattoos. I always like fantasy football related tattoos, like somebody who got like 2024 or just NFL fandom tattoos where it's like somebody put like, you know, Eagles, 24 Super Bowl champs. on their leg, I would love to see that. I love all the people that got the

Philly Special tattoo after the Eagles. Or like, anybody who got a Jets tattoo when they signed Rogers, I would love to see that. Dude, oh my God, I think I Craig, I think I texted you this. D.K., I don't know how much up on the NBA you are. So I live in D.C. I went to a Wizards Knicks

game a couple months ago. Wizards obviously suck. I sat next to... That's putting it politely. I know. The Wizards are, I Honestly, kind of like an insult to basketball. They're worse than the Pistons? They are not, but it's close. Are they worst than the worst team of all times?

That's one thing I know, is that the Pistons are bad. Detroit already had like the worst football season ever with the O and 16 Lions and the worst baseball season ever with the O3 Tigers. And they also have the worst hockey season ever. And now the Pistons might add the worst NBA season ever. Like Detroit will have all four of the worst records ever. It's brutal. Anyway, I was out a Wizards game. I was sitting next to this woman.

and she was a little bit older. She was there with her son and her grandson were both there. And I think her two grandchildren. And eventually after four quarters, I kind of really, she's not rooting for any one. I kind of like, was it,

Dolly Parton? I wish. No, eventually I kind of like talked to him like, oh, like she was like, I could tell her Nick's fan. And eventually I was like,

who are you like rooting for? She was like, oh, well, I bought these season tickets the day that the Wizards traded for Chris Paul. Chris Paul. But like the next. day, they traded him away.

For Jordan Poole? He was for George. Chris Paul was a wizard for like 17 hours. And this poor woman had bought season tickets in those season hours. And I'm like, that's worse than a tattoo. Riscilla did a live show in New York. And the plan was to have Chris Paul as a guest because Riscilla loves Chris Paul. And I remember Chris Paul got traded to the wizards like that day, like hours before the show.

And like, Riscilla had not planned on it. And it was kind of like awkward where he was like, huh, so you're just like a wizard now. Chris Paul's like, yeah, like, I don't know. I guess we'll see how that goes. And then like two hours after that, he got traded to the Warriors. Oh, my God. So I don't even remember why we got on that.

Anyway. Oh, tattoos. I want Aaron Rogers, Jets tattoos. Yeah, email, siringerfancy football, gmail.com. A couple ones here. So email from Mike. Mike. Mike, Mike.

We're talking about how awkward the comeback player of the Euro award is because no one ever cares about it. But now it's like Joe Flacco or Debar Hamlin and Craig was like, it's probably Flacco and D.K. was just too uncomfortable to have the conversation. Are people more pro Hamlin or on our side? I think people are kind of like down with Flacco.

I'm not going to lie, it's tough that Hamlin had two tackles this year. It's like literally like, it's, but we got an email, I guess, Mike said, Big Cat, I guess tweeted about this. And he said that we should name the award after Demar Hamlin, but give the award to Joe Flacco. The DeMar Hamlin comeback player of the year award goes to Joe Flacco. I mean, that is, yeah, that does make some sense, actually. Or at Flacco, you could call it the honorary, the Joe Flacco is Baco, comeback player of the year award.

Goes to Tamar Hamlin. Yeah. I also wanted to shout out everyone who sent us the crescendo songs. We asked for all these crescendo songs at Ringer Fantasy Football Gmail. Email us, we have made a playlist. We're still out. do it because so many people if you want the playlist email us at ringer fancy football at gmail dot com and we will send you the playlist and keep emailing it in and it's it's actually it's huge

but it's very cool and it's actually very cool to see this giant thing that so many people have suggested it thank you so keep emailing on them i want to just a obvious one we missed which maybe the best christendos song ever is someone's nixon and bohomian rhapsody oh yeah maybe maybe i feel like that's the biggest it's a great show yeah from like obviously like the wayne's world scene with the headpanking and stuff. Or what's the Beethoven one where he invented music singing at the same time?

That's probably the original crescendo song. Yeah, there's some good classical music versions, examples. We can just keep going with this. Is the deal they just didn't sing while music was playing? And Beethoven's like, yo, guys, I got an idea.

Like, they just, people were like aghast that you would talk during the violin. But anyway, I was scrolling through TikTok the other day and I came across someone's account. She's literally just a drug

rummer in a symphony. So she has like very random moments in time. She'll be like sitting there for like half of the like 90 minute whatever however long movement is. I don't know. But then all of a sudden she'll just have to go boom boom boom boom boom boom. Like she just

your friend? No, I don't know. It was just really funny. It was just like Witness me by only like my only time I did anything during the 90 minute show. She's like the punter of an orchestra. Yeah. Pretty amazing. Oh, also, hi-fiz, we mentioned the Interstellar theme song or whatever.

I also ran into someone who played that song on an organ in like a really huge cathedral, I think in like Scotland. For who's the actor who played Sherlock? What's his name again? Benedict Cumberbatch? Yeah, Benedict Cumberbatch. What were you going to say? Benedict Wunderbent. Benedict Cumberbatch.

Anyways, that's another great one. Benny comes. I would love to hear Jesus Christ I got to got thrown off my rail there. I rattled there. I have to kind of

regain my balance. Compose. Gather. I was just going to say I'd love to hear a crescendo song on Oregon in a giant cathedral. But yeah, Benny comes. Craig's just,

he doesn't have anything to add. Nothing to say. The other, the other one we also at sports center commercials Chris emailed in to say he mentioned his favorite one which I forgot about Chris was that one were Steve Irwin's getting in the elevator with John Butchergross and then the Florida

Gator gets out and he's like hold on John and he like tafferson Oh shit that's fucking genius That's great that wasn't really good one RIP dude Irwin was the goat I love Stuart Irwin God The man He's like Arbo Jackson

Oh seriously I loved watching him he's the best His legacy he lives on truly, though. Yeah, his shoulder and his wife, yeah. Yeah. Love Steve Irwin. Too bad.

All right. RIP. Email to ringer fantasy football Gmail.com. If you want the crescendo song playlist, we will send it to you. So yeah,

I guess this is the URL. No, yeah, just www. No, it's not. The URL? Nope, got emails.

Okay. It's like a club. So now we, I guess we have to do the beginning of the show now. Yeah, right. We're really excited to get started.

All right. Heifitz, do one of the old school. Welcome to the ringer fantasy. Dude, just go crazy. No, my voice is going to die. I can't. Oh, yeah. He's got COVID.

That's right. So we go, welcome to the ringer fantasy football show. My name is Danny Heifitz. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck's power hour. We're going to rank all the lessons from the 2023 season and tattoo him on our freaking bodies. So don't forget him for 2020 for oversight.

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