The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking the Best and Worst Fantasy Players After Four Weeks

Episode Date: October 5, 2022

We power rank the five most rewarding and five most disappointing players of the year after four games. We finish by reading a few listener emails and holding Fantasy Court. (2:42) - Kyle Pitts, Falc...ons (5:44) - Amon-Ra St. Brown, Lions (8:09) - Saquon Barkley, Giants (10:49) - Jalen Hurts, Eagles (14:30) - Allen Robinson, Rams (18:43) - Jonathan Taylor, Colts (20:59) - Josh Jacobs, Raiders and Miles Sanders, Eagles (24:02) - Nick Chubb, Browns (27:28) - Najee Harris, Steelers (30:02) - DJ Moore, Panthers (32:45) - Honorable Mentions (39:59) - Emails Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Additional Production: Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Would you bet a few thousand dollars that you could sink an eight-foot putt? What about 10 grand that you could win a drag race against a Camero with a thousand horsepower? If you bet two million dollars, could you bet it all on one football game? Maybe you wish you could, but you probably wouldn't. Gamblers is about the people who did. From the Ringer podcast network, listen to Gamblers Season 2 on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Huyfeits. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Krollback.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Today it is power hour every week. We are power ranking something on Wednesdays during the season. This week, we are ranking the players that you feel the most intense about having drafted. Either the players are the happiest width for drafting, the players that make you feel super smart, or the players that have absolutely screwed you and you are filled with anger and hate and regret self-loathing all the above. Like nobody in the middle. It's all the extremes. That's what we're ranking. Which players have you in your feelings? feels, as the kids say. Yeah, we're not doing anything in the middle.
Starting point is 00:01:20 We're like politics, just the extremes. Okay, so if you're not familiar with Power Hour, it's very simple. We're going to go through a little intensity rankings. D.K. and I sent our rankings to Craig. Craig has ranked them all. So we're going to go through every two minutes. You're going to hear this sound from Tom Tom, Tom Club. Oh! Great song.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Shout out, Kai. Yeah. I love actually being able to hear it. It's amazing. Kai is playing the audio. As Dika said, last week we admitted our longstanding ruse that we actually have not heard the audio the entire time. Craig added in the post.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Now we actually hear it and we don't have to live a lie anymore, which is very nice. They're playing it on Monday Night Football, which is excellent. I think that we did that. I think so too. It's a good sign. If you work for ESPN and you actually listen to our show and it gave you the idea,
Starting point is 00:02:05 can you just email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com? We won't anonymously. I just want confirmation personally. We won't even share it on the show. I just want confirmation. Okay. So with all that said, let's go through it. Craig, give us her power hour.
Starting point is 00:02:17 So I'm ranking these just in total level of intensity. I'm not going like the first five positive, the next five negative. I'm going to just pick whichever I want, but each player will be ranked in terms of how intense your feeling of happiness is or of disappointment. And remember that human beings feel disappointment like four times more than love and that we're inherently not a grateful species. Most people hate losing more than they like winning, that's for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Which is why, and we'll start the timer right now. All three of us had this person as our number one. This is a person you are distraught about, not happy. It is Kyle Pitts. Tight end. So all three of us obviously had this person. He's the LVP, right? He's the LVP of the season.
Starting point is 00:02:59 We're at the quartermark. We're four games in. It's been an unmitigated disaster. He's averaging five fantasy points per game, which is 23rd amongst tight ends. He's behind O.J. Howard and Colby Parkinson. Jesus. Kyle Pitts would be the third best fantasy tight end.
Starting point is 00:03:14 on the Seattle Seahawks. You know, that's so ridiculous. He's averaging two and a half touches per game. And you know what's annoying is it's obviously all Arthur Smith's fault, right? Kyle Pitts is only running routes on 75% of the team's drop back.
Starting point is 00:03:30 So that means three out of every four times, Mariotta throws a pass, Kyle Pitts is running a route. But that means one in four passes, the best tied-in prospect ever is just not running a route. He's just not even available to throw the ball to. Yeah, I was actually going to ask, like, are we, where are you directing your emotions? Are you physically mad at Kyle Pitts? Or do you just
Starting point is 00:03:51 like hate Arthur Smith? I'm more of the latter. I saw somebody, uh, Jordan Lupe last night, tweeted out a picture of Kyle, of Arthur Smith. He goes, Arthur Smith looks like a vampire who feeds only on Kyle Pitt owners. Kyle Pitt owners. Like, dude, he is Colin Robinson. He is just getting so much joy from us being so upset about this Kyle Pitt situation. He's just like, He's eating it up. Can we call him Count Arthur? Just count Arthur. Falcon's two and two.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Tive for first in the division. Just going to throw it out there. They won the game. Too busy winning. Too busy winning. But you know what I was thinking about? Do you guys, do you guys ever watch the Pete Holmes stand up
Starting point is 00:04:31 where he talks about how weird it is that we, like, just human existence and that we all just accept that we live on a planet that is like hurtling through space? Life makes no sense. You're on a planet right now. You think you're in America?
Starting point is 00:04:45 Zoom out. You're on a space rock floating in nothingness, infinite nothingness, and the infinite nothingness is expanding. That means endlessness is getting bigger. That makes no fucking sense. We all just act like it's normal. Like, oh, everything's made of molecules.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Okay. Got it. I'll never think about that again. And it's like, and we're just supposed to make sense. that space is infinite, that doesn't make any fucking sense. And he's like, that's how I feel
Starting point is 00:05:22 every time I look at Kyle Pitts. I'm like, this doesn't make any fucking sense. It's kind of like if someone tells you space is infinite, you're like, oh, yeah, okay, cool. If there's a sign that says wet paint, you're like, I don't know, I should touch it. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:39 So anyway, Kyle Pitts, absolute lock to be the first one. So second here, I'm going to go, I'm going to flip to the other side. this is one of the most rewarding draft picks, the most rewarding, in my opinion. Haifitz had him the highest here. Amon Rae St. Brown. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Amon Ra is the reason that we kept telling people to not draft the running backs in the middle rounds. And again, Josh Jacobson's been fantastic, but a lot of those running backs, it wasn't about the guys. It was that the league winning player is buried
Starting point is 00:06:04 somewhere in like the middle rounds of the top 100. Amon Ra, you know, he had an ankle injury last week. Obviously he was out, but like Amonra looks like that guy. So the first three weeks of the season, Amonra, had as many catches as Justin Fields had completions period. Like Amonara St. Brown is that dude. And again, this is not just the season.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Basically, again, since like December of last year, going on eight, basically a half season plus at this point, the best receivers in fantasy football have been in Cooper Cup, Justin Jefferson, and Amonra St. Brown, and Devante Adams. Like those a bit and Jamar Chase, that's the top five. And he's there. And you got him maybe 50th? It's incredible.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Yeah, he is. So I think every year, we always do this, but it's like, who's this year's Cooper Cup? Even though Cooper Cup had a historic outlier of a season, like not going to be repeated, although he might repeat it this year himself. But like everybody's looking for like the next Amman or the next Cooper Cup. Amman Ra is that guy. Like he's averaging 20.5 half people are points per game. It was just second only to Cooper Cup this year.
Starting point is 00:07:09 You had to draft Cooper Cup as the wide receiver won, probably. Amon Ra was the wide receiver 26 in ADP. Like, this is the greatest bargain. This is like finding a fucking Monet at a yard sale or something. You know what I mean? Like, this is incredible. The feeling is so great. That's why he's the MVP of the season.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Even though he's not the number one scoring player at the wider-state position, he's the MVP because of the value you've extracted from him and where you drafted him. Wow, we finished early. Come on, Tom, Tom, time, where is it? Damn it. That was the first time ever. We're waiting for it. For so long that we just had the timer up.
Starting point is 00:07:46 But now we don't know the time. see the timer, so we're like, oh, I wonder this is going to end. Maybe it was better when we couldn't hear it. There it is. A long time ago, we were like, should we do one minute, two minutes, three minutes, we landed on two. Every once in a while, it's way too long. That awkward. I mean, it doesn't counteract for like, literally one time ago we were just talking about how, like, paint is wet and the universe is forever way after the timer went off. Okay, number three here, this player is one of the most rewarding players to have drafted. Sequin Barkley. We all had him.
Starting point is 00:08:16 D.K. and I had him number one over a monoron. D.K. Take it. Yeah. So this is the dream. I mean, this is what we all wanted him to be. We're living the dream right now. Just like Will Ferrell. Like from one crash. It's the number one running back in PPR. Is this our best call so far as a show? Yes, but also like we were kind of high on him last year and that didn't really work out. So now it's just like the universe is evening out. Well, Craig and I, okay, how about that? Here's the deal. Here's what we wanted. This is why I say it's the dream. Like, Sequin is the utilization king so far this year.
Starting point is 00:08:52 He is the RB1, first of all, in points per game in PPR. He is first in both snap rate and total snaps. He's first in rushes. He's first in rushing yards. He has 99 total touches, which is first. He's first in scrimmage yards. He's first in routes per team dropback. So he's running a route at a higher rate than any other running back. I mean, this is like, this is everything you could want in a fantasy player. The only thing he's not first in is touchdowns, which means there's meat on the bone here.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Like he could score more touchdowns and be even more ridiculously awesome. So, I don't know. I just love Sequin. The reason I was out on Sequin last year was that he doesn't have, he, last year I felt like coming off the ACL in his first season, he's not going to have the juice and this offense is worse than people think with Jason Garrett as the coordinator. This season, everyone was kind of out on Sequon. It was ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:09:40 But it was the opposite. He's going to have the juice back this year because he's going to have the juice back this year because he's got the time from ACL and then the offense will be better because Jason Garrett's gone. That's been exactly more or less what's been going on despite the injuries. But the part about Saquan having the juice, I think this sums it up really well. This season, Sequin already has five plays of 20 plus yards. He had five plays of 20 plus yards in the last three seasons combined. 2019, 2020, 2021. He had five 20 plus yard plays. He's already matched that this season. Love that. I think.
Starting point is 00:10:13 that's it. Tom, Tom. I think this is why you have to remember, you have to, this is why we track injuries so much, right? Like, you have to, and I think we're learning to do this a little bit better as we go along.
Starting point is 00:10:25 We should have been lower on Sequin last year coming off at the injury, and now, like, it makes a lot of sense that he's healthy, and he's finally back to, like, the freakish athleticism that got him drafted second overall. So, yeah. And I think that's hard for fantasy managers in general.
Starting point is 00:10:38 It's hard to shake off that injury reputation. And it probably, It probably felt like a bigger gamble to draft Sequin this year than it actually was in reality. Absolutely. All right. Next guy here. Number four, I'm staying positive once again. Jalen Hertz, man.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Ooh. Yeah. This was like, I feel like the Jalen Hertz, Trey Lance thing, was like two ships in the night. One was going to make it and one wasn't. And the fantasy analyst hyped up both and Hertz prevailed. And hopefully you were one of the lucky ones who got Jalen Hertz, who's the quarterback through right now, who's been amazing. But I didn't add Tray Lance on this list because injury doesn't,
Starting point is 00:11:15 the spirit of this exercise is not about it. If a guy got hurt or not. But it felt like it still could have been going in that direction anyway. But to stick with Hertz, Haifitz, you and I had him the highest. Why don't you take it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:26 It certainly is frustrating where I think we were just beating the drumbeat all off season, all preseason of like, you want a Russian quarterback, Lamar, Jalen Hertz, Lance. We like, Lance at the value, but like it was all of them and then Lance is gone. Hertz is incredible.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Like, I mean, Jalen Hertz, So since he replaced Carson Wentz in December 2020, the only quarterbacks who've actually been better than Jalen Hertz in fantasy football are like Josh Allen Lamar and Justin Herbert. Like that's it. On a per game basis, I mean, Jalen Hertz has been better than Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:11:56 He's incredible. And as a pure rusher, like just as a pure rusher, Jalen Hertz is more rushing points than Alvin Camara since he became a starter. He has more rushing points than Ezekiel Elliott since he became a starter. I'm not including the receiving work, obviously, is not catching passes.
Starting point is 00:12:12 So if you strip that out, like, he is two players fused together. Yeah, I love that. I'm just looking at the percentage. This is a, sorry,
Starting point is 00:12:22 this is a tangent. I'm looking at the percentage of fantasy points that are rushing. And because so obviously, he gets a lot of his fantasy production from rushing. He is right now,
Starting point is 00:12:30 fifth among quarterbacks in rushing fantasy point rate. Guess who's first? Kenny Pickett with 110% of his fantasy points coming from rushing. I just, that was funny. because, you know, obviously he rushed for two touchdowns in his first game.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Anyway, but yes, no, Jalen hurts, man. It's just really fun to see him, like, come along as a pass or two. Obviously, we knew that the rushing was there. But, yeah, having the ability to, like, do both and, like, be a long-term starter just makes him so much more exciting long-term as a fantasy guy. Not to disrespect Tom, Tom, but I'm going to do it. Are you guys not all coming around on the whole, like, the rules of fantasy are kind of dumb and that we should probably just the scoring and somehow?
Starting point is 00:13:11 No part of this bothers you that like It doesn't bother me enough The rushing points are just Quarterbacks that rush just Like a quarterback that passes for 10 yards In a first down That's just worth less than a quarterback Who Scrambles for 10 yards
Starting point is 00:13:23 Yeah but here's the thing The stat that we just gave about The percentage of fantasy points that come from rushing Like Jalen Hertz 43% of his fantasy points come from rushing And you're like that's so lame Like you know that that takes away from players who strictly are pocket passes
Starting point is 00:13:36 Well Justin Fields 55% of his fantasy points come from rushing Justin Fields sucks So it doesn't necessarily mean that rushing quarterbacks are just the cheat code. You still got to be good. I know, but no part of you thinks it's weird that when a quarterback runs, it's just worth two and a half times, basically, what it is when they get the same yard. I don't really give a shit.
Starting point is 00:13:55 What if they just make it sick? What if it's just let's have passing touchdowns before six and call it a day? Like, I don't really, that's like the easy solution. Change takes time. And I think all of us now officially kind of endorsing the pivot to Superflex. has delayed this whole, like, changing fantasy points for quarterbacks thing, because now it's like, quarterbacks are now valuable again, regardless of the rushing because of Superflex.
Starting point is 00:14:19 So I'm currently happy with how quarterbacks sit in the fantasy landscape. We'll have to discuss this. It's kind of... Jail-Hurts is good of fantasy. Fantasy's kind of dumb, but Jail-Hurts is good at it. Okay, next guy here. Fifth guy on the list. I'm going back to negative.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Somebody you were absolutely distraught over. All three of us had this person. Alan Robinson, man. Oh. I mean, this is starting to get, like, sad. Or, like, embarrassing. I'm not exactly sure. You know what's funny?
Starting point is 00:14:48 After last night, Alan Robinson has scored the exact same amount of points as Kyle Pitts this year. So, I'll make it worse. So last year, Alan Robinson was so bad. Alan Robinson was the Kyle Pitts of last year where he was a top 40 pick. And after a month, people were like, should I just drop him? He's not doing anything. Alan Robinson's worst this year. The whole point of this season was,
Starting point is 00:15:15 well, he wasn't like trying in Chicago because he was mad the team was so bad. I didn't practice the fields and the Bears suck. But the Rams paid him $30 million guaranteed. And he's literally worth. He has 50 fewer yards through four games that he did last year. And he's just, all the targets he has
Starting point is 00:15:31 are just fades in the end zone. Like he's basically not a part of the offense. Even Richard Sherman was saying on Twitter, like, this is bizarre. Like his role in the offense, either Alan, Richard, Sherman saying this. Either Robinson's cooked or there's zero chemistry. And the only thing that makes me feel better, because we liked Alan Robinson, or at least I liked Alan Robinson coming
Starting point is 00:15:49 in the season, the only thing that makes me a little better and feel better is the Rams was just wrong. Like the Rams clearly had the same evaluation. And they were wrong. Like they gave him 30 million guaranteed. He's not. Cooper Cup had more targets last night on Monday night at football than Alan Robinson has all season. Well, yeah. And the other thing that's weird is he was like a freaking superstar in training camp. You couldn't stop hearing about him. Like every day he was making a huge play, but it turns out like that doesn't translate exactly too.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Those are just fades in the end zone? I know. We got to put this under the training camp pipe that was horseshit for next year. Well, I think if anything, it's like, man, we just need to stop listening to Training Camp pipe, period. Memento tattoo. Go the other direction. Yes, George Costanza.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Yeah. So the other thing, God, Ben, or Alan Robinson's being tied with Kyle Pitts is sad, but it's also hilarious because Skoronic, what's his name? Scoronic. Ben Scoronic. Ben Scoronic also has exactly the same amount of points. 20? 20 points? Which, it makes me sad for Alan Robinson,
Starting point is 00:16:53 but God, that makes me even more sad for Kyle Pitts. Ben Scoronic has scored the same amount of points as Kyle fucking Pitts. Alan Robinson is the wide receiver 72 in fantasy football. Okay, but here, real question, one question. If you are two and two and you're, like, should you, can you cut Alan Robinson? Are you going to be able to say?
Starting point is 00:17:08 He's not a part of the offense. Like, oh, yeah, yeah, no, of course. I'm just saying, obviously, you shouldn't cut Alan Robinson. He's really good. You drafted him high, blah, blah, but once you get past that, is he just, is he actually have a real chance of being a fantasy player that you're going to start and feel good about? If Cooper Cup, if Cooper Cup gets hurt, yeah, sure. I still think even if Cup doesn't get hurt, yes.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Maybe it's the sunk cost fallacy, but I don't think he's droppable. I mean, he's still seeing like five, six targets a game. I know that's not a lot. He's third in the league in end zone targets. But even that, who cares? Like, if he gets the one. I kind of think he's dropable. I kind of think he might be dropable because even, oh, end zone targets.
Starting point is 00:17:46 But that's it. He has no, it's just the end zone targets. Even if he reels one of him in, it's one of those gates where he has two catches, 14 yards, a touchdown. That's still single digit points. Yeah, he's like Matt Asiata now, where you just hope he has like a one-yard punch in. That's about all he has. Tyler Higbee is this team's wide receiver too.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I want to be super, yes, I want to be, and then Van Jefferson might come back. I want to be super clear. I'm not saying, I am not saying, just go out there and cut Alan Robinson. What I'm saying is if you have a team that's deep and you look at all your other guys, you're like, I don't know who to cut and you've been wondering about Evan Robinson,
Starting point is 00:18:19 I think that's okay. I'm not saying everyone should do it. But like, if you can, it's not crazy because we haven't seen anything in the first month to suggest. He has a role in this team. Obviously, the Rams also noticed this and are going to try to get him involved, so he might. But there's been no evidence of it thus far.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Yeah. I hope Alan Robinson staying off the internet. I'll just say that. Next one here. This is a guy who we all feel distraught over, but Hyphitz, you had him the highest. Jonathan Taylor, the number one overall pick. Yeah, Jonathan Taylor, the irony of he was the safe pick.
Starting point is 00:18:55 It was like everyone, everyone who does fantasy in any capacity was like, oh yeah, well, Jonathan Taylor, easy number one pick if, you know, you want a safe pick. We had McAfrey first. Jonathan had a great week one. I think he had like 27 points. Since then, he's got like 20 total points. Like, quietly, you haven't noticed this. It's not very noticeable.
Starting point is 00:19:14 The cults have been bad. But if you have Jonathan Taylor, the last three weeks, he's the 36th best running back. He's literally behind J.D. McKissick. He's behind Alexander Madison, Tony Pollard, Ramandre, Stevenson, Jeff Wilson. Those are backup running backs who are just better than Jonathan Taylor the last three weeks. Like, he's, I mean, never mind, leagues behind Khalil Herbert and Jamal Williams. Like, if you have him and you're getting lapped, and now he's hurt on top of that. And he has this angle injury.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Like, the Colts have imploded. Matt Ryan's awful. The line's awful. This is why people have trust issues. Yeah, part of me is like, it's going to get better and he's going to turn this around because I think at this time last year, he was like, he got off to a really slow start again last year, too, and then really turned it on, you know, in the middle of the season. So don't give up hope.
Starting point is 00:20:01 But obviously, you know, what we've seen so far has been extremely disappointing. The crazy thing is, dude, he has exactly the same amount of rushing attempts as Nick Chub. it's like the number two running back in PPR. He's the number one running back in half PPR. Like that's got to be kind of depressing because the volume has not been a problem. It's just been he hasn't turned it into anything at this point. Well, and it's rare that a number one overall pick
Starting point is 00:20:23 just isn't good. I mean, like, if you go back, I mean, the last two have been McCaffrey and every time McCaffrey's on the field, he's great. Before that, it was like, Seyquan, once again, every time Sequin's playing the full game, he's delivering every game. Before that, it's like, Todd Gurley,
Starting point is 00:20:38 Levy on Bell. These guys never had seasons where they just kind of weren't very effective. Yeah, it happening without an injury is crazy. Yeah. He will get better, hopefully.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Thank goodness that he's not like really hurt. It sounds like this is going to be a short stint on the injury. It's probably a bylaw. Yeah. The person has might be panicking. Next up here,
Starting point is 00:21:00 I'm switching back to positive. Man is it rewarding to have drafted the Josh Jacobs and Miles Sanders and just kind of the norm core running backs of fantasy football. Norm core.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Just the normies are really pan off. Miles Sanders is the RB8 and Josh Jacobs is the RB9. I kind of see them together now. They're like a buddy cop comedy to me. Yeah, exactly. They're the same guy.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Sanders and Jacobs. They're getting a lot of work. Sanders is sixth and carries in the league. Josh Jacobs is seventh and carries. Josh Jacob looks really good. That dude has a highlight once a week that makes him look like the best running back in the league. Josh Jacobs is 24 years old.
Starting point is 00:21:37 That's crazy. than Najee Harris. Holy shit, that's weird. There is still so much time left for Josh Jacobs to like continue to be a very relevant and good fantasy running back. I think he's in the last year of his deal, right? For the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:21:50 I think so, yes. They did not pick up his 50-year option. If he leaves to go somewhere good, like I think Josh Jacobs could potentially be like a top 12 draft pick next year. If he goes to the right team. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that was always the argument
Starting point is 00:22:05 is like he's a good player. They just don't give him any usage in the passing game over the last few years, but he's actually been, like, he had five catches last week. He's been a big part of this offense, and he has, like, a really high snap rate. Josh Jacobs says, this was, I guess this is another good lesson to learn is, like,
Starting point is 00:22:20 in the fantasy industry, like, we have to make a lot of assumptions based on, like, predictions and what's going to happen in the season. And we probably went too far and assuming this was going to be, like, a big, you know, time share. And it's not turned into a time share whatsoever. In fact, they're, like, using him as a three-down guy. So I love to see this. that. And of course, like, he always has, like, you said, one or two, like, highlight rushes
Starting point is 00:22:42 every game. And then for Sanders, like, regression was just going to come for him. Like, he's scoring touchdowns now. Like, that was, like, he scored literally zero touchdowns last year. I think Boston Scott vultured eight touchdowns literally last year. And the timeshare is less, is less extreme between Scott, Gainwell, and Sanders. I mean, they're, they're committing to Sanders more than they ever have. He had 27 carries last week. Sanders, yeah, Sanders obviously was going to score touchdown. Josh Jacobs, obviously I was down to him all preseason.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I'm sticking with it. Still sucks. Get out of here. What are you talking about? Double down. Die on the hill. I'm doubling down. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:23:20 You think he's bad? No, no, he's a good player. He's not going to, I'm doubling down. I think last week will be his best week of the season. And you'll look back and be like, that was the sell high. He's the RB9. Where do you think he's going to end up finishing on the year? Like RB 23.
Starting point is 00:23:34 or something like that. It's always hard with the totals or just the per game. Also, you saying last week he's gonna, that was his peak. He had 32 points last week in fantasy. No, no, no, I mean like, you'll look back and be like,
Starting point is 00:23:45 oh, that would have been a nice sell high. I'm doubling down. I'm not giving in yet. I'm gonna die on the hill. So Iphids is having terrible vibes about this. Leave my corpse behind. Okay. Well, everybody who has Josh Jacobs
Starting point is 00:23:58 on your team, I hope you're happy right now because you should be. Yeah. Okay. Next guy here, we have three more. I'm going with one of the rewarding players. All three of us had this guy, but I'm going to give it to DK. Nick Chubb.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Yeah, love this. So, he is, he is pretty much exactly what we thought he was going to be. He has a 6.5 target rate right right now, which is like really low. Who gives a fuck? He's just so good at running the football. It doesn't matter. How we still told him a target rate first? He's the number one running back at half PPR.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Why did target rate come up first? Because that was why we were fading him. Everybody's known he's really good. Here's the problem. He doesn't catch passes, of course. So, like, we overreact to that. But he's... We do this all the time where we really can't see the forest or the trees.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Right. He's exactly. He's so freaking good. And he's going to get fed. Also, like, Cream Hunt has been weirdly quiet this year. Like, last year, Creme Hunt definitely stole his thunder. I think when they were both playing and they were both healthy, like, Cream Hunt was actually scoring more points than him in half PBR and PBR.
Starting point is 00:24:54 So that was another reason I think people were, like, you know, a little bit nervous about this. But Creme Hunt's been relatively quiet. And it's been the Chub Show. So, um, if you, you know, decided not to care about that target rate thing, like, good on you, because that's, that's looking like a really good decision right now.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Do you think Kareem Hunt, it was the, the, in training camp, trade request where he just decided not to practice for like two days. That was such a weird, and then he just went back. That was such a weird series of events.
Starting point is 00:25:21 I'd like to hear more like what happened there. My take from the Take Purge slash the hottest take show where I said fantasy prep is a waste of time in the off season. There is a direct correlation I bet, between the amount of time somebody spent preparing for their fantasy draft and their lack of interest in Nick Chubb. I think the more you prepare for fantasy, the more you read and listened to,
Starting point is 00:25:42 the less you were into Nick Chubb, the guy who showed up, who was kind of the fringe dude in your fantasy league, who has a really, who works in finance, it doesn't have time to prepare, and just sits down and goes, all right, who should I take? Oh yeah, Nick Chubb, he's always good in drafted him. That guy's killing it right now. Chubb is second in rushing yards, second in scrimmage yards, second in rushing touchdowns. And he's second in PPR points. This is how we talk about people right before you should trade them away. 100%. I was just about to say, is Nick Traynick. So high.
Starting point is 00:26:11 When we're just like, well, obviously he's the best player. He's really like, no, we're just trading. People are upset about our sell high on C.E.H stuff. That's good. I think that's going to age well eventually. It did not age well. This week. Yeah, we're sorry that he had a great game as soon as you trade him away. Get somebody really good if you're going to trade high on these guys. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Clyde has three touchdowns on his three. three, like 13 catches and he's three receiving touchdowns. He has scored on 10% of his touches. The touchdown that he caught from Mahomes on Sunday night, which was like Mahomes did a pirouette and like a dance and then like... Yeah, yeah. That's going to happen every week. Yeah, like that is, that play is a perfect encapsulation of Clyde's season so far.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Yeah, I'm sorry that the people traded him away missed out on that week, but if you still have them, we actually still think you should trade Clyde away. This one, we are. He's like a top five running back right now. He's not going to sustain it. It's like Hyford's saying Josh Jacobs' best game is in the past. Yes, it is true.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Clyde is not going to be the RB5 when the season ends. Can I reiterate? If you're going to trade him, get somebody good. That's all. I'm dying on the hill for Josh Jacobs. What I meant is you'll look back and be like, oh yeah, I wish I'd traded him at that moment in time
Starting point is 00:27:17 when everyone was like, yeah, we were wrong. It did suck that Clyde got like 20 carries. He was scoring off very minimal touches, and then he gets like 20 carries. Anywho. Next guy here, two more. This is a player we're all distraught about. high fits, I mean, D.K.
Starting point is 00:27:32 and I had him. Naji Harris. Yeah. Noggy Harris has been milk toast this year, and the injury to his foot was not promising. We kind of ignored the offensive line in the offseason. We talked ourselves into things couldn't get any worse, right? Look what he did last year. Look at all the carries he got. At the very least, he's going to put up the exact same type of numbers.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Turns out that has not been the case. they have scaled back his usage. The offensive line actually looks even worse. The offense is more disheveled because Mitch Trubisky, even though he has a stronger arm than Ben Rothesberger, doesn't know how to run an offense and third of the correct people like Ben Rothesberger. And now we have Kenny Pickett, who I actually think is going to check down less to Najee Harris.
Starting point is 00:28:18 So he's kind of just a huge waste of space on your roster. You can't sit him. You're not going to be able to trade him and you have to start him. I agree. I think that I was I was, a big believer that that while the Steelers line was bad Ben Rothesberger always being in shotgun
Starting point is 00:28:34 would make the running game a little better even though the line was bad. I also just kind of was obsessed with the idea that the Steelers were leading the NFL in shotgun rate inside the 20, inside the 10, inside the five, even though they're the Steelers that didn't make any sense. And so I felt that Naji would probably offset some of the dumpoffs getting with Rothsburger by just scoring more. But the Trubisky offense of the Steelers
Starting point is 00:28:56 was really just worse than, I mean, I honestly I'm saying, even though I've seen Chibisky play, it was still worse than I could have imagined. And I'm hoping that it picks up with Kenny Pickett because Noges is in no man's land where not quite bad enough to trade away. No one wants him, but like not good enough that you are happy by playing him. And he's just kind of, as Craig said, we all kind of thought Josh Jacobs would be. Just this like dude is getting enough points. He's kind of like running back purgatory.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Yeah, he's, remember my take birds that he might just be David Montgomery? He's actually worse. He might be Montgomery pretty good. Yeah. Josh Jacobs is Naji Harris. The Naji thing, this makes me think, we live in a world right now where it's very dangerous to say, it can't be any worse than this, right?
Starting point is 00:29:38 Like, it can't get any worse. Our political climate, our actual climate. I was going to say, our real climate. It can't get any worse, right? Like, I feel like we have made this mistake a few times lately where it's like, oh, this can't get any worse. Like, Ben Rosberg was like the worst quarterback in the NFL last year. Can't get any worse.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Oh, God. On that note, Craig, if you have this guy in the list, I mean, we have to do DJ Moore next because that's the Panthers in a nutshell,
Starting point is 00:30:03 right? Yeah, like DJ Moore. I can't believe I forgot to put him on the list. Holy shit. Oh,
Starting point is 00:30:08 he was my last. He was my last. Can I hijack it? Sure. Yeah. So this to me is like the DJ Moore experience, like it can't be worse.
Starting point is 00:30:16 All we said was, well, the Panthers' offense can't get worse. Baker Mayfield. No one's worse than Donald. The Panthers has been worse.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Last year, terrible. Second to last and expected points added. The Panthers are just dead last this year and expected points added. They're the worst offense in football, I would say, I mean, I guess the Bears
Starting point is 00:30:33 medieval attempts to, I don't know how to compare them, but like among people, the 31 teams doing actual NFL football, the Panthers are disgusting and decrepit. Baker has been horrible. And DJ Moore is out here. I mean, the numbers are in him are kind of astonishing.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Like you think about how bad Alan Robinson's been, but DJ Moore has fewer yards than, again, Ben Scoronic. You know, the Rams, cost-playing fullback. Digimor has been worse than Ashton Doolin for the Colts. DeAndre Carter for the Chargers. Come on.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Richie James on the Giants. Alamedi Zakaas and the Falcons. These people have more yards than Digi Moore. Again, those are people who are not actually like starting players, really. Not in fantasy, like in real life. They're not actual starters. This offense is, first of all,
Starting point is 00:31:16 Baker's the most blitzed quarterback in the NFL, which basically means every defensive coordinator sizing him up and be like, this guy sucks. He is indecisive. He can't, process. He's double clutching. He has the most batted passes through four weeks on record. That's got to be the most frustrating thing about this whole thing is he keeps getting, like he has guys wide open. The passes just keep getting batted down. Because he's short and
Starting point is 00:31:38 he's and he's slow. It's crazy. So DJ Moore is getting weighed down, but to bring it all home, I regret the, like a few of the assumptions we made, I agree. It's like a Memento tattoos. Two of them I want to, I want to get Memento tattooed. Again, if you haven't seen Memento, it's like the guy's short term amnesia. So he just. has to get tattooed on him. He's trying to find who killed his wife and he's getting tattoos, all the clues on him.
Starting point is 00:31:59 And we want to do that under the off season when we forget everything. And the tattoos I want are every time you have to say, well, it can't get worse. Or, well, it will be better than next year, especially offensive lines. The assumption that a quarterback
Starting point is 00:32:13 or an offensive line will just be an upgrade, we need to interrogate. Just because it's another year. Just because a year has passed does not mean things will automatically get better. Also, I'm getting tattooed on my forehead. backwards so I can read it in the mirror.
Starting point is 00:32:27 No receivers with shitty quarterbacks. Just not doing it. Yeah, it's true. It's the same thing with Terry McLaurin. Terry McLaurin is the same thing. I think of Terry McLaurin and D.G. Moore is like the same person now. I feel very bad about hyping up DJ Moore in the preseason. I'm sorry for everyone who listened to that.
Starting point is 00:32:43 I'm so mad about it, honestly. So that rounds out our 10. I did have two honorable mentions. I wanted to toss out one, one good, one bad. The positive one is Gerald Everett. You know, we always joked about, you know, how the one, it's like the Tobias Kuhn, everybody deludes themselves into thinking
Starting point is 00:32:58 that, you know, it's going to work for them. That was us with tight ends. You know, you thinking that the one diamond in the rough tight end guy you have is actually going to pan out. Well, it kind of was that for Gerald Everett. He's the fifth tight end in fantasy football right now. And maybe a lot of it's tied to Keenan Allen
Starting point is 00:33:10 pulling his hamstring and missing the last three weeks. But I don't know. I even think upon Keenan Allen's return, Gerald Everett will hold strong. Gerald Everett's really good. He kind of has bricks for hands. But he has one or two, game swinging plays a year.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Like egregious drops. He was the guy that they targeted on that pick six against the Raiders. Yeah, he gave up on that play against the Chiefs. Oh, the Chiefs. He just stopped running. He was exhausted, but he didn't run the route. He had just run for 30 yards and sprinting. You're a fucking NFL player. Run the route.
Starting point is 00:33:43 You're a professional athlete. I know, but he's motioning to come off the field. Okay, but you can't just give up if you don't get subbed out. Anyway, he lost the Seahawks a couple of games last year, like, single-handedly. I will admit I would defend Gerald Everett in that situation more vehemently if he had not had like this really weird pattern of just blowing games. Like multiple fan bases can point to Gerald Everett and we're like, we lost like three games because you fumbled this moment. Most players don't have that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:12 The Seahawks traded Russell Wilson for like no fan. They barely use if they're just and they would rather have just not. Well, they're like, we'll see you later at Gerald. Like, go ahead and sign wherever. Can I give a quick shout out real quick just because there's not enough gratitude in the world for somebody you can mention, which is just straight up, just Cooper Cup. I think that every, and I mean this literally, every single player that people drafted in the first round, you had at least one week where you kind of wondered if you made a mistake, except for freaking Cooper Cup. Like the guys who've been really good, McCaffrey, you know, the beginning wasn't great. All these, Derek Henry wasn't great the first two weeks.
Starting point is 00:34:52 You know, everybody in the, except Cooper Cup, though, is, if he were a quarterback would be a top five quarterback in fantasy. He's not a quarterback. He's a freaking wide receiver. Cooper Cup, I mean, he has more points than Kyler Murray. Wow. He's on track to, I think, have more catches than he did last year. He's just ridiculous. He has 15 points in PPR every week of the season.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Yeah. Well, and so my, this, this, this, definitely. tells nicely into my final honorable mention, which is a negative one. And it's for Matt Stafford. Ooh. Yeah. Who Matt Stafford this year, if you look at his fantasy finishes in the first four weeks, week one, he was the 30th, best quarterback in fantasy, week two, 10th.
Starting point is 00:35:35 And in the last two weeks, 29th. Karam's offense is a disaster. And Cooper Cup is the only thing keeping them afloat right now. And they are depending on him more than I have seen an offense defend on a player. It's almost like Seekoine Barclay, to be honest, but just at why. receiver. No, yeah. Stafford's average the same amount of points per game as Mitchell Chubisky.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Cooper Cup had like 10 catches in the first half against the 49th. That's the thing. The Allen Robinson thing, the Stafford and the Cup thing, it's all related. The Rams as a team in the McVeigh era have always ebbed and flowed with the quality of their offensive line when their line has been good and dominant and not like physically dominant because they're more athletic and really they had like a high IQ line with Andrew Whitworth or left tackle. They had, what was his name, the center, John, I forget his name, but they had a high IQ
Starting point is 00:36:24 players. And then ever since they've just had trouble physically dominating people. And when they can't block, the whole thing kind of falls apart with like the play action and everything. And they can't, when they swapped golf for Stafford, Stafford helped them because when the line broke down and the production wasn't perfect, Stafford could still do stuff. But now, Alan Robinson being a essentially like worthless before they get to the 10-yard line. like the first 90 yards in the field,
Starting point is 00:36:50 combined with Van Jefferson being out. This team is no vertical element. Plus 2-2-atwell is a second round pick and he's a healthy scratch on game days now. Exactly. And not to mention, they probably have a bottom five run offense in the league. They can't do anything on the ground.
Starting point is 00:37:03 They can't run the ball. They're not physical. They're all, first of all, it's not a good line and they're really banged up. And then obviously Cam Acres is, you know, a weird player right now. Darrell Henderson is not the kind of running back
Starting point is 00:37:14 that should be on the field four out of every five snaps. Nothing is quite right. Like Ben Scorononic, cool bless his heart like he shouldn't be involved as much as he is he shouldn't be playing fullback and so I guess they're making their best of it but I think you're right Craig in that maybe other than like the chiefs if Travis Kelsey got hurt
Starting point is 00:37:32 I feel like the Rams if Cooper Cup got hurt I kind of feel like the Rams would be worse than every offense in the NFL except the Bears the Baker Mayfields Carolina unless except for those they'd be like a bottom 10 offense without Cooper Cup they're not a Super Bowl contender It's crazy. Every team in the NFC West is two and two.
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Starting point is 00:39:52 That was clean. Woo! That was really strong. Nice to love that money. All right, it's due some emails. Yeah. It's an email from Christian. Christian.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Christian, first of all, he notes that he's almost 40 and for our conversation earlier this week. He was listening to us in the bathroom. Got a lot of those. Thank you for everyone that emailed about taking dumps and reading their phone. We appreciate it. Also, I want to say now, maybe this is part of the email, but thank you all to everyone who emailed and wish me happy birthday. That meant a lot to me. If you did not listen to those episodes, you're probably like,
Starting point is 00:40:28 why did those thoughts just go back to back? Just skip to the last 15 minutes of our Sunday night show and you'll know what's going on. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, basically, DK's 40 and has no respite from the outside world and his family and responsibilities except when he's in the bathroom. Okay. Christian then requested that I read this in my rant voice so I should I get worked up? Yeah, I kind of want to get worked up. Just start thinking about the fact that Josh Jacobs is doing really well.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Quarterbacks get more points for running. Oh yeah. Should we try and get him worked up by just like shouting things he hates? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you get me mad. Just saying things that make me angry. Points per first down will never happen. It's stupid and it will never happen. It's never going to happen.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Is that all you got? You're not your cat's father The cat doesn't know who you are How dare you? The cat loves me. The cat will eat you If you die in your apartment. All right, I'm laugh.
Starting point is 00:41:24 PPR is the best. All right, email from Christian. How the hell were you so blasé about the Alvin Camara inactive issue? Like, as in people benching Camara and then he's out and they're like asking their commissioners. Like, ooh, let me play them. Line up decisions and reacting to news is all caps.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Literally the game we are. playing if you missed it too bad it could have happened to any other league member our league plays in australia where games start at three in the morning and you bet you're asked we set alarms on game day if anyone's questionable those are the rules the australians are so built a badass they're built different i mean this country is full of poisonous things and things they want to kill you they're just built different he goes on dk if do you remember the blue and episode Shadowlands, the game is not fun if you don't play by the rules. If I could just place my ball into the beer pong cup, beer pong sucks. If you can't figure out who to play or not,
Starting point is 00:42:25 go play best ball. This is real life. And then he comes as, and he says, as fantasy personalities, you three should set the standard and not ride the fence like you did. God damn, I feel so bad now. I know. We let down on a shirt. Oh, yeah. I like that Christian set us straight right there. Should we have Christian come on and yell at us once a month? I like that. Dude, I love it. Yeah. I kind of love that he was like, you guys. Yeah. We need a reality check, you know? I appreciate that. He basically, though. Yeah, he basically said like, suck it up. This is the game you signed up for. Set your alarm, pansies. It's going to get tough, you know? It's going to get tough. I actually never considered that that everybody in Australia, games started three in the morning. Good Lord. Can you imagine setting an alarm. for fantasy. Imagine playing fantasy football
Starting point is 00:43:15 for like 10 years and setting the alarm at 3 in the morning in Australia, just set your lineups and then you hear us read that email. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:43:22 well, the game started at 9 a.m. And what was I supposed to do? Well, Americans are very like commonly known as not self-centered people, you know, so like...
Starting point is 00:43:35 True. Yeah. It's not one of our core personality traits. We're not selfish, you know? If I lived in Australia, maybe Christian can way back in here. I don't think I'd go to bed on Saturday night.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I'd stay up till 3. Set the line up and then go to sleep. That's because you're cool and have a bunch of friends. Well, maybe Kristen's cool and has a bunch of friends. Flex, Craig. Well, I was just saying, I feel like even if I'm alone watching TV until the middle of the night. I feel like I'm not going to bed at like midnight or 1 waking up two hours later. I'm just staying up.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Craig's like, I'm so sick. All you pussy's going to sleep. I'm just going to stay up till 3 in the morning. You guys must be bitches. Grind tape. That's what the Australians would do. Okay. we also, we were talking about DK Metcalf getting carded off to go take a shit
Starting point is 00:44:16 in the tunnel. Well, not in the tunnel, I went to a bathroom. But we got email from Kevin who noted that I didn't know the story, but I guess Wes Welker confirmed this on Dan Labatard. A Patriots special teamer back in the day named Larry Izzo took a shit on the sideline and
Starting point is 00:44:34 like did not get noticed. No one noticed it. And Belichick gave him the game ball after the game for not for doing this and not getting caught. Wait, way, back up. He took a shit on the sideline. Not like on the grass. I think he, like, found a bucket, and they probably put towel over him, or he just, like,
Starting point is 00:44:50 he found a way to, maybe he went in the medical tent. I don't know. He concealed himself in some way, though. He's shit on the side. Yeah, I don't think he just pulled his pants and no one saw. I think that he got concealed somehow. And he just did it. And nobody noticed.
Starting point is 00:45:02 That's pretty gross. Gave him the game ball. Don't you think if Brady did that, the NFL would immediately come up with a rule and in state, like, some new, oh, we got to get bathrooms on the side. sideline, but because it was some random special team where they're like, eh, it's all right. Well, no one, LeBatar journalistically kind of fell down on the job because did he wipe? And if so, how did he wash his hand? Like, did this man poop on the sideline and then not wipe and then go play NFL football?
Starting point is 00:45:28 Or did he poop on the sideline wipe not wash his hands and then go play football? I'm telling you, man, badees. Sponsor the NFL, bidet. Strike a deal. Maybe he did the Gatorade bottle, actually, instead of wiping, just like squirt, you know, water. Maybe it was one of those ghost poops that you just don't, there's nothing there. I feel like that's not the kind of thing that comes up so urgently in the midst of an NFL game. You know what I mean? It's probably true.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Yeah. Good point. All right. We also got a fantasy court from Moses. Moses. All right. It felt hard to turn the man down. So my brother just had his first child on Wednesday and I went up against, I went up against him in fantasy this past week.
Starting point is 00:46:05 I'm the commissioner. On Sunday, I see the following text message for my brother who's on L.A. time. Can I get a new dad exception? and can you change out Alvin Camara for Clyde Edwards O'Lear? Didn't know he was out starting to play. Camara was questionable all week, obviously. And then Moses writes, knowing he just had the baby and has got no sleep, I accepted based on the fact that he was going against me and not anyone else in the league,
Starting point is 00:46:30 which is most of the people he hasn't met before. Fast forward to Sunday night, I lost by 12 points and the entire margin I would have won if I just not let him do this. I'm pissed. Do I take my loss and honor the good day? deed as a new uncle? Or do I go Sith Lord and just bench Clyde and move myself to 4 and O by winning
Starting point is 00:46:47 and give myself a better chance to make the playoffs than the only league I care about? I feel like we've had a question about new dads before in lineup and lineup changes and I can't remember what we ruled. We need some precedent here. It really does feel like it's impossible to both have a child and manage a fantasy
Starting point is 00:47:03 football. That seems like just too many things. I think that the only exception to our new you know what we should call Australia rules football ball. Just set your lineups, like almost no exceptions. The exceptions were just births and deaths. There's really no other reason.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I mean, I feel like he made his bed and he just needs to lie in it now. Made his bed as in the guy who swapped out Camara for Kled? No, it's the guy who had the kid. It's like, look, dude, you decided to have that kid time during football season. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I'm talking about the commissioner made the change. And then he didn't like the result. He can't change it now. No, I know. I was kidding. I agree with you. I just thought it'd be funny. No, yeah, obviously.
Starting point is 00:47:42 You can't change your mind because you lost. Although that's kind of a funny precedent. I did this because I thought I would beat you anyway. But now that I've lost, I actually would like to rescind my kindness because it was an empty gesture to begin with. I also love that. Like, this show doesn't air until Wednesday. So theoretically, if this guy were to listen to this and then make a change,
Starting point is 00:48:01 it wouldn't happen until probably like Wednesday or Thursday, which is like practically the next week. Can you imagine waiting four days? Just quietly white outing. like the three and one and turning it into a four and zero. Dude, it would be funny if commissioners just trying to do that, just changing week one scores and like no one noticing the standings change. Gotta be honest, I probably would notice for some of my league.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Dude, you have so much autonomy as a commissioner nowadays. I'm like Yahoo. You can do anything. You can just change scores. You can add players to people's teams. You can change like standings, matchups. And I could just go and just like change around whoever's playing in week 10. Nobody would know.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Yeah. I mean, it says the little LM made an up. state thing, though. No one's checking. Speaking of no one's checking, we got a tweet, I think, or an email saying that we fucked up the order of who got the questions right on their last show.
Starting point is 00:48:56 So it says, Craig won the George Pickens showdown time with a 500 million miles against the answer of 190. That's the difference of $310 million. D.K. and Hifitz's guesses were way closer. I don't, I would have to check the tape because I don't actually remember, but
Starting point is 00:49:11 apparently we just let you have Pickens. without actually checking. It was $190 million was the answer. I think D.K. gets like $8 million, which is way closer. No, I guessed $8 million. You're right. I was right.
Starting point is 00:49:23 And I just kept talking about it. Craig just took him. This is why you just got to be confident sometimes. This is like, you know, if you're going in somewhere that you're not supposed to be, you just look like you belong there. I think just because I was, I felt somewhat validated that I was equally as off as high fits was,
Starting point is 00:49:39 that we just assumed that meant I won. just because my 500 million guess wasn't so egregiously wrong and so we just kind of penciled that in as a win for me. I think that the reason is it's like, okay, if you were going to buy I don't know, a pair of shoes,
Starting point is 00:49:55 like a nice, nice pair of shoes. And I was like, okay, how much are these? And you said 500. And I said $8. And they were $250 or something? The answer was 190. For some reason, I, like, Craig feels closely.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Like, the idea that I thought spiritually it's closer. Yeah, because in the binary sense, it's like I guessed expensive and Haifitz gets cheap. And expensive was the correct answer. Yeah, exactly. So I kind of, I think I just was like $8 million. If you're in the, I was so wrong from the hundreds. I wasn't even in the tens of millions.
Starting point is 00:50:32 I kind of thinking about the math and I'm like, oh, that is more. Like, that seems wrong to me still. I can't believe we missed that though, because I think Hive, our D.K. gets 20 million. That's like obviously way closer. Can you believe people take advice from us? I think every time we do these trivia, people must think I can't believe I take advice for these guys.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Just what I think you can't get any dumber. I maintain that these are very difficult trivia questions. These are harder than the questions you get at like a Tuesday night trivia night at a bar. These are very difficult. Half the bit is they're like literally impossible. How far away is the answer? If you didn't listen to the show, the question was,
Starting point is 00:51:06 we do the trivia tiebreakers to decide waivers. the question was Elon Musk fired his Tesla roadster into space four years ago. How many miles away is it from Earth? So yeah, maybe it's not that easy to answer. It's all for the content. It's all for the people. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:25 Should we do a trivia question right now as a little treat? Yeah, sure. 100%. All right here. Just for the people who stick around, we'll do a little trivia question right now. Pull one out. Shout out Seth.
Starting point is 00:51:35 We actually sent a Google sheet with actually a lot of good ones in it. Shout out stuff. Oh yeah, thank you for that. Yeah, you know what? Yeah, I want to do one of these
Starting point is 00:51:44 that I haven't done on the waiver show. I look at it, it's kind of like starting out, not Alan Robinson's negative, like starting, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:51:51 Rashad Penny, where every week you're like, oh, I should do this and you never do, but I like it. I should do this. How many cities
Starting point is 00:51:58 with four major pro sports teams features zero teams with animal names? Oh, my God. I bet you it's like three. Well, first of all,
Starting point is 00:52:10 there's how many cities have four major sports teams not that many right probably oh yeah that's okay so maybe i don't know new york l a l a tampa bay boston i can't remember yeah well football baseball hockey yeah dallas does do the sharks count as like a bay area hockey team or no this is where it gets complicated so san ozre it's like does that the san jose oh yeah definitely sanos yes i think that's But that counts like, can you say like niners, giants, sharks? Like, can you do that? I think so. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:47 You tell me how far is San Jose from San Francisco? Don't they right next to each other, basically? Yeah, kind of. I mean, maybe like 40, 40, 40 minutes. If it's within an hour, that's the same place as far as my money is concerned, for sports teams. I'm going to say, I'm going to say three cities. My first thought was five. Probably just one.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Yeah, it's could be too high. It's probably like Minnesota, because they have the wild. They have the, the... Oh. The Timberwolves. Timberwolves. Timberwolves. Damn.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Well, let's figure this out together. This is why I haven't asked it. It was to take the 49ers. The Warriors. It's mascots. Not an animal, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, sharks, no.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Oh, it's L. The Lakers are not a thing. Oh, the Rams. Never mind. Oh, my God. I'm an idiot. It's New York. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:53:32 The Knicks and the Nets aren't things. The Rangers and the Islanders are people. Giants and the Jets. And then the Yankees. the Met. So it's New York. I can't believe it took me so long. It's definitely New York. It's just New York. You think it's only New York? All right. I just looked it up. New York is one of them, but there's three.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Oh, I got it. Three. Nice. And I should have gotten the other one. We said one of them. Wait, Boston. Bruins. Oh, that's a bear. Did you say Dallas? Yes. So it's the Mavericks, Cowboys. And then the stars. And then the rain.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Yeah, so Dallas is the second one. And then the third one. Isn't a Maverick a horse? No. What? No. The mascot's a horse. A Maverick is done.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I think a Maverick is not a horse. They just chose to make a mascot a horse. It's like how Stanford's fucking mascot is a tree for no reason. Wow, I thought a Maverick was a horse. That's not the case. I don't know what the definition of a Maverick is. A maverick is like someone who's just like a rogue. But you're right.
Starting point is 00:54:40 I guess I never think. thought about how they have a horse in their logo. I've really thought about that, to be honest. Is a Maverick? A Maverick is an animal, usually a form of cattle that does not carry a brand. Really? Huh. Ha! So it is an animal. Oh, all right. Well, I didn't know. All right. Well, there's one more city. Four teams, no animals. I can give you a hint if you guys want it.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Yeah. I mean, I should have gotten this one. D.C.? Yes. Oh. Commanders, capitals, nationals. Wizards. And the Wizards. So Hyfitz didn't get New York or D.C. The two places he lives.
Starting point is 00:55:18 I got New York. I just forgot the other place. I knew Seattle was eliminated because we don't have a basketball team. Okay. It was good trivia. That's fun. Thank you, everyone stuck around. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Our rankings will be up later this week. Fantasyfutball.3.com. I help you start sit and check that out. Yeah. There we go. All right. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, D.K.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Thank you, Kai. For doing the timer. Thank you, Tom, Tom, Thomas. Thank you, Lauren. Thank you, Booker T and the MGs. Green onions, the Sandloff song. Nice, Craig. Fantastic song.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Yeah. Their whole catalog is great, Craig. You should look it up. You know what, the green onions is the only song I've ever heard from them. I should go back. It's all kind of in that, I don't know if all their songs are like that,
Starting point is 00:56:00 but a lot of their songs are in that vibe. Is it kind of just like instrumental, like kind of funky, yeah, like funky instrumentals. Cool. I don't know, honestly, I don't know if they're all like that, but there's definitely a good amount of them. I'm going to play Green Onion because I don't know if I've heard it or not.
Starting point is 00:56:14 I don't know the name of that. If you've seen Sandlot, the second you hear it, you'll be like, oh my God, this song is classic. Oh, my God, yeah. Amazing song. Wow, yeah. I've heard that a trillion times.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Yes, the thing is, I don't know just, I'm like thinking, I just don't know the names of songs, but yeah, that's... I think it's in a lot of movies. Have we ever done the thing where we figured out what songs are just straight up in the most movies? Like, just corresponded songs by, I guess, I don't know, box office
Starting point is 00:56:40 or total gross with DVDs or whatever and just try to figure out what is the most heard songs in movies? I don't know if that database exists. We need a true media for It wouldn't be that hard to build it. We could figure that out. Yeah. If somebody knows that,
Starting point is 00:56:54 if somebody knows how to find that out, easily let us know. All right. Goodbye, everyone.

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