The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking the Best Fantasy Trade Candidates, Shane Waldron Fired, and the Sitzpinkler

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

The guys react to the Bears firing offensive coordinator Shane Waldron and Jerry Jones doubling down on not using curtains (1:43). Next, POWER HOUR! They discuss the underwhelming stars you should tar...get at the fantasy trade deadline, including Craig’s biggest opp, B. Robinson (not Bijan), rookies who could blow up ROS, and much more (21:15). Plus, Fantasy Court and emails (48:33)! Buy the dip in the Chicago wide receivers room (25:17) Craig’s archnemesis (27:30) The other B. Robinson (31:05) Touchdown Tee (33:19) Jordan Love, probably: F**k it, Doubs is down there somewhere (35:37) Ladd McConkey might be a sleeping giant (37:46) TReyADE McBride? I’ll show myself out. Oh, and Sam LaPorta too! (40:27) “...but it (Davante Adams) might work for us” (43:39) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producers: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:40 podcasting right on the Ringer NBA YouTube channel. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Huyves and I am joined by Danny Kelly and Kirk World Beck. And today it is Power Hour where we power rank something. And today we are power ranking the fantasy football by low players who can save your season. The default fantasy trade deadline on Yahoo and on Sleeper is this Saturday, so we're going to go over all the players we think you should trade for. We're also going to power rank all the things that Jerry Jones said about the sun this week because they were actually enough. And then we're going to do some fantasy court and also happy exploding whales to all who celebrate, Craig.
Starting point is 00:01:33 That's today, right. Spolting Whale Day. I know. I got to get to the beach. I'm close to the beach. Should I go blow up a whale? Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yes, you can. 54th Exploding Whale Day. But first, we have some news. Chicago has fired their offensive coordinator, Shane Waldron. again, only eight months ago, Jackson Smith and Jigba, the current CX receiver who formerly played for Shane Waldron,
Starting point is 00:01:56 there only eight months ago said, asked about Shane Waldron in Chicago and said, is this live? He's a good person, as he said. He's a nice guy. Always a great thing that you want from an offensive coordinator. He's a good person.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yeah, good person. D.K. was firing Waldron the right move for Chicago? Yes, I think very obviously it was. He was like, no, ston. He's like, I don't think so. Terrible move. He's a nice guy. He's a nice lady.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I don't know for sure if it will fix the bears, to be clear, but I feel like this was definitely the right move. Their offense was just going backwards. I haven't seen like a worse, like a worse offense in the NFL this year. Like maybe in the last few years, like this offense literally could not do anything. It was like everything was hard. So they need new ideas. They need, you know, just like a new energy to them.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I think like everybody, the body, the body language for the. entire offense, basically the last few weeks, basically since the Hail Mary loss has been just absolutely atrocious. So yes, I think this was the right move. I don't know if it's going to fix everything, but they had to do something. They haven't scored a touchdown since that Hail Mary. I feel like the OC, it's always the court editor who goes first, right? It's like the first step is kind of admitting you have a problem. You go with the O.C. Yeah. This does feel, if this feels like the beginning, this feels like the, this is, we're witnessing the beginning of like the anatomy of a rebuild. Like it does feel like
Starting point is 00:03:16 Eberfluse is probably going to, you know, unless they really turn things around. I don't even, it's like Ryan Poles, the GM, I don't know about that, but this does feel like step one of a long process for Chicago. The Waldron thing being fired, I think that inside baseball, but I think the stuff is always
Starting point is 00:03:32 telling. I think what took 36 hours, maybe two weeks longer than it should have been is, so the Bears GM Ryan Poles, the head coach Matt Eberflux this week. I learned it's Eberfluce this week. I'm glad I start pronouncing his name right. You were saying Everflus? Yeah, the whole time.
Starting point is 00:03:46 But, you know, it's fine because now that I learned he's about to get fired. But Waldron, Eberflus and the GM all have the same agent, which I think, frankly, is what made it, like, 30 hours really complicated to get this firing done. But, I mean, to, man, it's tough because I personally, I don't think any of this is Caleb Williams's fault, to be honest. I think the Bears are an awful organization. But they're playing terribly. Like, Scott Barrett, our friend over at Fantasy Points, they've been charged. in catchable throw rates for four seasons. So that's 106 seasons of quarterbacks that they've charted.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Caleb Williams is dead last in catchable throw rate. The last four seasons, I know that's not the biggest database, but that includes Bryce Young as a rookie for the Panthers. That includes Zach Wilson as a rookie for the Jets. That includes both of the last Justin Field seasons. Dead last is Caleb Williams this year. So frankly, there is no argument to me for Waldron. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I'm curious do you think, D.K., but when I look at the Bears, everything's sloppy. There's no attention to detail anywhere. The offensive line never knows who to block. The tight ends, the receivers, no one ever knows who to block. You know, Nate Tice has tweeted out great videos of like Gerald Everett, the tight end coming in, off of motion blocking the wrong guy.
Starting point is 00:04:57 You know, Keenan Allen never knows who to block off a screen. The receivers are running bad concepts to the wrong place. All the details are just wrong, frankly. And I think that does point to coaching a lot. This reminds me of like the Jaguars. Like just everything's so sloppy. Which year? I mean, any of the last four years, basically.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Everything's sloppy. No one really seems like they're on the same page. The body language is terrible. Like, I don't know. Yeah, I think this is the right move again. I don't know for sure what the new offensive coordinator is going to bring or what he's going to change. But they had to do something to kind of like break themselves out of this little funk that they're in. New offensive coordinator, Thomas Brown.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Thomas Brown. Real guy? I don't know. He's kind of an NPC. I mean, so he also worked for McVeigh. He's a running backs coach. He's kind of like, he has a Forrest Gump element where he was like at Wisconsin for Melvin Gordon who had, I think, did Melvin Gordon like break a touchdown record at Wisconsin?
Starting point is 00:05:52 Like that was crazy. Then he went to Georgia Chubb, Georgia, Chubb, Georgia, where he worked with Nick Chubb and Sonny's just been around all the great. He was also, he was also the running backs coach at Nuga. Nuga. Oh, Chattanooga. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Just everywhere. But yeah, he kind of just, Thomas, just kind of worked with like every great running back at the last like, like, decade. it honestly. But I don't know. Frankly, no disrespect to Thomas Brown, but only the Bears could turn to the guy who also was responsible for the
Starting point is 00:06:21 Panthers offense last year. That landed the Bears the first pick in the first place to get killed the Williams. And it's not really Thomas Brown's fault, but it's more like, man, what a hot potato career. The Panthers last year start one and five. They fire Frank Reich. And they're like, all right, Thomas Brown, you call the plays. And it was a catastrophe. And now he ends up in
Starting point is 00:06:37 Chicago. And he's right back here, 12 weeks, 11 weeks in season. They're like, all right, Thomas Brown fix this mess with the first pick that we screwed up. And I don't know. He's like the embodiment of the, oh, no, I just became the most important person at work and it's destroying my life. I think this is such an interesting season from the difference between what you see on paper versus what happens on an actual football field when like human beings are working together
Starting point is 00:07:01 to try and do something because it's like at the beginning or at the, during the off season, we're like, oh, this is a great situation for Caleb Williams. He's coming in. He has like, you know, veteran receivers and DJ Mark. They just got Keenan Allen who gets open. You know, they got Roma Dunzee who's coming on and could give them some big plays, you know, all this stuff. But then when you actually try and get these things to work together in real life, in reality, there's personalities that are involved. Like we've seen DJ Moore, like the worst body language of any player in the NFL maybe, you know, this season.
Starting point is 00:07:31 He's just been a wild card. And then like Keenan Allen definitely falling off a little bit. And I don't know. The Gerald Everett signing did not work out whatsoever. However, like, the whole Shane Waldron thing just never, like, came together. It didn't seem like he really knew how to accentuate the things that Caleb Williams does well. And then Caleb Williams, because of all these things, honestly, you said you don't blame Caleb Williams. I think that's a little ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Like, he's just straight up missing throws a lot, which is not something he did a lot at USC. But, like, when you add all these things together, he's been put in a situation where I think a lot of people would struggle. He's just been, like, much, much worse than I could have ever imagined, basically. Yeah. quarterbacks have done more with less. I mean, even what Drake May is doing with New England. Right, exactly. I would say a little better than what Caleb's doing.
Starting point is 00:08:16 It's like Jane Daniels was handed the greatest offensive all time either. I think it's funny because it's like Caleb Williams in college was like the guy who plays loose and he plays, you know, on instincts. And he's running around doing crazy things and putting up big like crazy throws down the field. We saw that a little bit in the preseason. And he's like lost his mojo. He doesn't have that confidence, that swagger. that he had in college. And it's kind of all falling apart for him.
Starting point is 00:08:43 It's like truly just like, I think it's like he's lost his confidence. And it's like really, it's weird. It's not the YIP so much as it's just like he's not playing loose. I mean, again, I just, I refuse to believe, and maybe this is total cope and, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:57 take lock, but I just refused to believe that the Caleb Williams I saw at USC for, and even before that at Oklahoma has just been broken, as opposed to just the bears have designed an incredibly terrible system. I don't know. I think that's fair, but eventually it becomes who you are. I'm not saying that we're there yet with him. I know, but it's been two months.
Starting point is 00:09:14 It's been like 10 weeks of the season. I'm like, it's his rookie year. I totally agree. It's still very, very early. But I think, I think D.K. is right that right now is confidence as shot, not because he's a bad player, but because the nurture of it all has put him in a pretty tough spot right now, or mentally he's in a funk. Our buddy Nate Tice had a really good point about this that I'm going to totally steal because
Starting point is 00:09:33 I think he's dead on right. I actually think, so the Patriots had nine sacks of Caleb Williams this week, which was a catastrophe. They had, I think they had eight sacks in the previous six weeks. Then they sat Caleb Williams nine times. If you watch the sacks, it's actually, it's not Caleb Williams trying to do crazy stuff and what we always say about rookie quarterbacks, not playing in structure and just trying, it's the opposite.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Caleb Williams is trying really hard to stay in structure, almost to prove to everyone to prove to himself. He could be a pocket passer. He should be bailing more. He should be bailing on these concepts. And it's almost like he's trying to prove that he's coachable. And I think Nate nailed that, that he's trying to prove that he is coachable, that he can run an NFL offense.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And the one that he's trying to like run is awful. And that's why he looks bad. He's not playing. And so when you look at it, the details, another than Nate pointed out that I love was that, like, if you just look at the formation with, the Shane Waldron, you know, he came from the McVeigh tree, the Shanahan tree. The way he runs it is nothing like what those guys do. He wasn't, was he not taking any notes when he was coaching there? You know, we always talk about, we always joke about like, well, why doesn't everyone do this? And the real answer is largely in part, it's how you do it.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Right. Matters. You have to. And so it's a great two examples of this. The formation with, if you look at the bears, their offensive, their receivers are so far from the offensive line. You look at the Rams, the Niners, the Falcons, the other teams who run the McVeigh stuff. The receivers are close. It's so intuitive.
Starting point is 00:10:56 It's so funny. It changes the angles of the running game. So for the blocking. And there's more space for the receivers to run. toward the sideline if they're closer to the middle of the field. Yeah, it's not rocket science. The other one, shout out Bobby Mays, our old colleague at the ringer, who unfortunately is a long-time suffering Chicago Bears fan.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And the other thing Mays pointed out, I couldn't believe this when I saw the stat. When Shane Waldrum was in Seattle, they ran 4.9%, under 5% of their routes, were in breaking routes to the middle of the field. 5%'s like literally the definition of a statistical anomaly. That's how much, like dead last in the league in breaking routes. That's so weird.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Shanahan. That's like the basis of the offense. It's bizarre. So anyway, all that's to say, it's hard to even, it's like they're at the cutting edge of like schematically what's going on in the NFL right now. In theory, in reality, all the little details are wrong. No one's blocking right. No one's receiving right.
Starting point is 00:11:50 The play calls are not at the right time. They're not like they don't know why they're doing anything. And so the players don't know why they're doing anything. Anyway, I actually think Caleb will get better going forward. So I, this season, I'm a little worried, but I don't know. I haven't changed my thoughts at Caleb at all. It's locked in my thoughts on the Bears. New coach bump.
Starting point is 00:12:07 That's all I'm hoping for. The new coach bump. But remember a tattoo we have, which is it can always get worse. Yeah. Don't forget that. So we have so many contradicting tattoos. We have it can always get worse, but also it's not as bad or as good as it seems. Also, they're all like, you have to interpret all of them.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Yeah. They're a little vague. Bears have the hardest schedule in the NFL coming up. Packers, Vikings, at Lions, at 49ers, at Vikings, Lions, Seahawks. Yeah, they play the entire NFC North the next three weeks and then the Niners
Starting point is 00:12:37 and then go back to the NFC North. Brutal. They might not win another game. Maybe, I don't know. Not good. All right. The other thing we have to hit a here, so Jerry Jones came out and said,
Starting point is 00:12:46 no Dak Prescott for the rest of the season, no curtains for the rest of the season. He's saying no curtains. No curtains. Which is curtains for the Cowboys. Curtains for the Cowboys. Well, that is basically what came out. We thought we knew both these,
Starting point is 00:13:00 but he basically confirmed it. is on injured reserve, like, forever with this hamstring, like for the rest of the season. I want to read you this quote. This is the Jerry Jones said this today. He's really cooking right now because this quote is also awesome. So again, Dak Prescott's hamstring was ripped off the bone. Out for a year. Like a brisket.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Jerry Jones said it's more common injury in hockey. He's got doctors that are very familiar with how to repair that. And his prognosis is wonderful. It just means that we're not going to have him the rest of the year. Right. Wonderful. Wonderful. His prognosis is wonderful.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Imagine Jack Prescott, your hamstrings ripped off the bone. Jerry Jones is like, wonderful. That's like the literal doctor or something. It's like, Grandma's prognosis was wonderful, but you're never going to see her again. Like, what is he saying? What does he mean? It's just full of wonder. We're wondering when he'll be back.
Starting point is 00:13:48 It's full of wonder. I hate this doctor. The other thing, you know what? For all the things growing with Dallas, we have to talk about the Sun thing again. I can't believe so much has happened. Mike McCarthy did the press conference. from the media room. They put up a little, like, shade thing.
Starting point is 00:14:05 To block the sun from hitting him in the face when he's not playing football. Do you guys mind before we do power? Can I power rank the quotes Jerry Jones said about the sun in the last three days? Please. So they didn't have shades. This is only the last three days. No shades in the press conference room even on the inside?
Starting point is 00:14:18 I don't know. Why are there shades in that room? Can we get a curtain? Somebody buy them a curtain. But are there no blinds? Like the building, the building goes to a billion dollars. Don't all meeting rooms have shades of a blinds? Like, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:14:30 Do you think that just during, yeah, they actually like used to do press conferences, like, or like board room meetings with Jerry Jones and the CEO of Pepsi. And he's just said there. And the CEO of Pepsi's just like, oh my God. Can't even freaking see anything. The Cowboys, I think I've said this before. The Cowboys always just remind me of like whatever it was the F-22 or the F-35 can't remember which one is like, they spent like a hundred billion dollars developing it. And then they're like, oh, wait, sorry, it can't fly in the rain. Can't get wet.
Starting point is 00:14:56 You can't get it wet. Hopefully you're flying. Hopefully you have a war. there's not very much rain. It's like when Kai went to the TCU Georgia championship in SoFi, which is a roof and he got rained on. It was raining sideways.
Starting point is 00:15:09 That's why I don't trust human beings for anything. Sorry. This is why I have a fear of flying, all right? This is why AI builds buildings. Dude, I'm obsessed at this kind of thing. Okay, so these are things Jerry Jones has said about the sun in the last three days. I'm going to go backward from.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Okay. I'll start for the top. the things we already know. Again, going back to Sunday, I'm saying the world knows where the sun is. You get to know that almost a year in advance. Okay, now. Which is still so near and dear to my heart,
Starting point is 00:15:43 almost a year in advance. It's one of the funniest things I've heard in a long time. You get to know that almost a year in advance. And I will say, some people were like, well, he was probably talking about the schedule, which is released. I will say the schedule is released in May. That's like four months, bro.
Starting point is 00:16:00 not almost a year. Do not give him any benefit of the doubt. He does not mean the schedule release. I think he really thinks you find out where the sun's going to be. It's like the farmer's almanac or whatever, where they put out like, here's where the sun's going to be. I think that's correct.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Maybe it's on Groundhog Day. I just want to read an email here from Brandon, who wrote in Brandon. Brandon. The Mayans knew so much about the sun and its movement that at the ancient city of Cheechin-Itsa and their largest pyramid, which you've definitely seen pictures of this,
Starting point is 00:16:28 There's little rocks on the top, and these rocks from triangle shadows along the rails go all the way to the top. And during the spring and fall equinox, the triangle lines up perfectly to create a full image of the serpent God. And Brandon writes, I tore this site in 2009, which ironically is the year that Jerry World opened. And he sent me a link with how this works. But quite literally, the minds figured this out 2,000 years ago. Humans, man, they used to be so awesome when they had nothing to do. But just like, they're like, well, the sun, we should just figure that out. Now we have a podcast of fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:17:00 In the fourth quarter? Now we're like figuring out yards per round in fantasy football. We have too many interests, is what I'm saying. I know. My next favorite Jerry quote for the last three days. Someone asked me about the sun.
Starting point is 00:17:09 What about the sun? Where's the moon? Fair point. I mean, that's... What about the moon? If you think about it. So this is now today. Sorry, today's Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I don't know if this was yesterday. He said, basically, he would double down. He was like, why don't you change the... Put the curtains up, Jerry. And he said, that really goes under the category of home field advantage. It has been an advantage for us to know where the sun is. I don't want to change
Starting point is 00:17:33 that. Just Craig, again, this is impotent. This is the impotent thing. You double down. He's never going to admit that he's wrong on this. It's like the martingale system in gambling when you get a bet wrong, you just double it and bet it
Starting point is 00:17:49 again. Eventually you're going to win. Frank even. So then he was asked well, if it's an advantage, you know, why is it helping you? To which he said, he basically said, Kellynne Moore, when he was the coordinator, knew where the sun was. He literally said, Kellynne Moore knew about the sun. He spent, I'm sure he spent a lot of time, the coordinator for the Eagles, he used to be here. I'm sure he spent a lot of time planning and thinking about where the sun was going to be. But not your own team. No.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And then Jerry said, my biggest thought when we were building the stadium was, don't have it look like it's not outdoors, make it look like it's outdoors. It was built to have sunlight coming in. don't have it look like it's not outdoors. So look, have it look like it's outdoors. The double negative. Like it's not outdoors. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:18:36 He wants it to look like we're playing outside in an outdoor stadium because it doesn't, first of all. I genuinely think Jerry likes how a sunset looks. And I genuinely think that he just thought this was an advantage from some time he played football in the 50s. He just convinced himself, no one could ever figure this out.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I just don't know. what that means. Make it look like we're outdoors. Also, you know how to, they have the biggest screen in America hanging over the center of the field. Can't do that when you're outdoors. The other one that this was from Sunday, but we didn't talk about this one as much, but he was asked, why don't you just put the curtains up over the windows that you guys already have? And he said, let's just tear the damn stadium down and build another one. Are you kidding me? There's no middle ground. They already have the curtains. That's like when you pull the piece of like a Jenga piece out and you know the tower is going to fall,
Starting point is 00:19:27 but you just knock it down before it falls because you're so mad. That was Jerry right there. Why would just rebuild the stadium then? Honestly, he should. I also learned today, sorry, I'm obsessed with this. I don't care how long we spend on it. Just put up the curtains, man. I learned today a Cowboys Season ticket holder
Starting point is 00:19:42 explained this to the sales department for Dallas in 2008. That they basically, he wanted to make sure his seat licenses were not in that section. He got assigned to this. He was in the Canadian Air Force, and he works at like Lockheed Martin and Boeing, and he was like, I'm going to be the sun. And the sales staff was like, no, you're not.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And he's like, it will be a huge problem. I'll be like, it's going to be hot. Like, I can't, I don't want to sit there. And they were like, prove it. And he's like, okay. And he sent them like a 30 page PowerPoint deck explaining how the sun works with diagrams. That's Kellynne Moore. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:20:12 So he got the job. He was a whistleblower and they just ignored him. Yep. They just buried it. I can't get over how stubborn Jerry is. Just put the freaking curtains up, man. Everyone would just be happy. Everyone would be happy about it.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Do you think if somebody goes rogue and hangs the curtains up, he would get someone fired? I feel like he wouldn't notice. Oh, he would notice. He would notice everyone would be asking him about it. He wouldn't see his beautiful sunset on the field. I think you're right, Craig. We have to put him in the ocean to love and fall. They would be catching touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Yeah, that's true. I want to know if there's any Cowboys fans out there that want the sun to continue to shine into the stadium. Can we find one? Can we find a single one? boy's fan who wants no curtains. It would be hard to build Jerry the Ocean's 11 vault because he loves windows so much. It'd be hard to build a vault
Starting point is 00:21:02 with so many windows and simulate. You gotta have like LED screens. Like if they look like windows. Yeah. There's even like, you know, you can make videos of people like walking around outside. He's like knocking on the window. Let's get on that technology. All right. You guys want you said power hours and buy lows? Trade season. Do you guys trade? Usually do you try to get into trade before
Starting point is 00:21:20 the deadline? Yeah, I think that's you got to sprinkle the seeds. It's like beforehand. It's like even, you know, you have to get in like a few days and like the deadlines, your backstop.
Starting point is 00:21:29 But it's hard to get something done the day of the deadline. You got to start texting people right now. You got to scroll down. You got to start circling like vultures over those like 10th, 11th, 12th place teams, you know?
Starting point is 00:21:39 Yeah, if six teams... Pick them for, pick their bones. If six teams make the playoffs, you have to look at the fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth teams, like those teams that are all like in various states
Starting point is 00:21:47 and like start with them and they look at who they have. Like, and if they have any of these players look there. You don't necessarily want to like, you know, Look, it's hard to make a trade with the team in first place. They don't want to change anything. You have to start with which teams want to change something.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Do they have any of these players? Start there. And again, I know I said it before, can't spill value without you. And you know what? If you want to discount on something, like, there has to be a reason someone regrets having the player on their team. So it has to feel a little yucky if you want to discount. Hi, Fitz. This guy has catchphrases.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I'm just saying, it's true. Hi, Fitz. Did you ever watch Master of Nun, the Aziz Ansari Show on Netflix? Yes. Do you know how one of like the biggest takeaways from that show was as he was trying to date women and find people he was on a dating app, he had a great pickup line, right? His like his hinge or Tinder or whatever app he was using his pickup line was the first thing he said to a girl was, I'm going to run to Whole Foods. Do you want me to pick you up anything? And everybody thought that was great.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Do you have any pickup line that you recommend for people to text trade partners to like make them feel comfortable? Because it's hard usually to go right after them. You don't want to be too much of a shark and scare them off. What is your tactic to kind of easily, you know, suggest a trade? This is giving away trade secrets here. Do you, I actually, I'll tell you, do you want to make a trade? Is that what you do? Just come right out with it.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Because you know what? Some people are like, not really. Some people are like, not really. And I'm like, cool. And then we're like, yeah, maybe. And then I'm like, what do you want? I swear to God. That's so refreshing.
Starting point is 00:23:19 I like, you know why? Would you be willing to part ways with anyone on your team or something like that? Yeah, because I think you have to thread the needle between, one, ask about them and put two seconds of thought into thinking about their team. Start with that. How are you doing? It's been a while. Let's catch up. Yeah, exactly. Start with that because it feels so ingenuous. I think that's the thing. My team offended if someone did that.
Starting point is 00:23:38 It's so annoying. Hey, I haven't talked to you to a while. How you doing? Anyway, do you want to do a trade? You send like three paragraphs about how you're really struggling right now. Like, anyway, trade, yeah. Sorry, I'm reading that. Sorry that happened to you or happy for you. Like, oh, fuck, they told me how they're doing.
Starting point is 00:23:55 It's awful. I like, I do, I do like the, hey, do you want to make a trade? Like, it's like, hey, I'm bored. Let's do something. Let's shake things up. Half the people are like, no, I have a child. Thanks, though. Let's live a little.
Starting point is 00:24:05 And then, I don't know. The other one is. Let's get weird. Let's get weird right now. Don't ask about their best player. It's rude. Let's get hopped up. It makes some bad decisions.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Also, Lil Dickie, who I interviewed a couple times told me his pickup line that worked very well for him was, on a scale of 1 to 10, how open are you to being hit on right now? Oh, I think he does that in the show. Dave. That's such a good line. Yeah. So it's essentially the same thing.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Very similar. Just put three seconds of thought to what someone else wants. We'll get started here soon, I swear. Have you guys seen the TikTok trend? I don't know if it's a trend, but every once in a while, it's like I see a video of a guy who just says the best game I've ever seen. And it's just, maybe it's like all staged, but it's just like a guy going up to a girl at a party or on the street or something.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And he's just like so effortlessly smooth. and comfortable, and it's like not weird at all. And I just, I actually really enjoy watching those. I don't know why. It's just like so impressive. It's like watching Michael Jordan work.
Starting point is 00:24:57 It's like watching Picasso paint. So on that note, let's, let's see if we can paint some Sistine chapels right here with some trades. All right. So we're going to go through Bailos and again,
Starting point is 00:25:07 every two minutes you're going to hear this sound. Love, love me some Tom Tom Club. All right. Number one, and again, these are Bailos. And you know what? If you're kind of like, why would I want to trade for that person?
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yeah. That's the point. Starting with number one, my guy, DJ Moore and Roma Dunesay receivers to the Bears. You know why? Because it couldn't be lower. All that you see, any NFL fan checks the news. Bears suck. Bears suck.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Bears suck. Everyone there is miserable. This is the lowest they'll be all season. And frankly. Patriots defensive linemen helping Caleb Williams up while offensive linemen. I'll just stand around him. That should be a rule that anyone who gets fired if your quarterback's helped up by defense. But in short, this is just by the dip.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Like that's as simple as that. We've seen DJ Moore be a top 15 receiver. Roma Dunezai was a top 10 pick in the draft. Anyone who's Romadunzee is debating cutting him. You can probably get him for a kick, like a really great kicker or a defense. Yeah, he's probably cheap. People probably going to cut Roma Dunezai. DJ Moore is not starting for anyone who has him.
Starting point is 00:26:09 He's a bench player. You can play a bench price. I don't know if the bears are going to rebound. You have to pay very little to find out because no one's playing DJ Moore for weeks. And if anyone's like trying to make a playoff push, they're not playing them. for the rest of the November. So I think that there is extremely available. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:25 From a positive regression point of view, like we believe in positive regression, especially if, you know, this offensive coordinator change actually helps kill Williams a lot. He, DJ Moore has a 24% target rate,
Starting point is 00:26:38 which is 12th among all receivers. Obviously, he's not doing a lot with that target rate yet. But he is a focal point of this offense. He's getting a ton of first read targets. And he has historically been a very good player. So there's a lot of like reasons that logically this makes sense to me. I think it's gross, but it makes sense logically.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Why are you not mentioning Keenan Allen? You could do Keenan Allen too. You could do Keenan Allen too. Even I'm a little skeptical. It's the grossest. It's the grossest. But it's the same thing. I think it's the same thing for all of them, honestly.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Again, I know that this is not the sexiest advice, but that's the thing is beggars can't be choosers. I just really think that it's a bear's offense become. I mean, think about it if they're even average down the stretch. DG Moore could be huge. So, all right, there's my bear's takes. Craig, number two, fantasy bylaws through, or just before the trade deadline, you have Jailud Waddle, the receiver for the Dolphins. This one shocked me.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I couldn't believe it. Failed you on Monday football, had 55 yards on the first drive, and then just ghosted you. Left you at the restaurant. I'm like Jerry Jones. I'm doubling down. No curtains. You want to talk about By the Dip?
Starting point is 00:27:57 This is the all-time Buy the Dip. Our Waddle model, which is players that either outperform or underperform their projections every week. Waddle has done that
Starting point is 00:28:05 one time. Week one, since week one, he has not scored more than his projection. And like two weeks ago, Waddle with the negative 20-yard play,
Starting point is 00:28:13 finding new ways to ruin my life. Last week, honestly, Monday night, he kind of introduced a new wrinkle. Went nuclear in one drive, had 55 yards
Starting point is 00:28:21 in the first. Most yards in any game since week one were on the first drive for Miami. Yes, 55 yards in the first series. It was on pace for, I don't know, 700 yards in that game or something like that. And then ended the game with 57, only two more yards the rest of the game. Did we get an explanation for why you dropped that pass? There was a pass that? Honestly, he was kind of doing the CD Lamb.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Like, there was something in my eyes. But I think... He saw something. The lights. It looks like when, like, you airball a shot at the gym and you, like, look at your hand. As if there's some issue. Something's up with my wrist. Yeah. Like when you trip, Jackie's biggest ick is if I trip and look at the ground, like it's the ground's fault.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Right. I think the real issue was that he was genuinely shocked the ball was thrown to him, so he wasn't compared. But honestly, my other reason is that we kind of found out on Monday night that Tyree Kill is a torn ligament in his wrist. And he's playing through it. And it's kind of getting worse, it sounds like. And he didn't know if he was going to play. And his quote was, I don't know what to do. I've never been injured before, which I don't, that's kind of, he definitely has a reflex.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah. So fast, he's like, I've never been hit in my time. 30 years. But like, look, the Dolphins won this game. They have an outside shot at making the playoffs. This team is not giving up. And Tyree Kill has a banged up wrist. I think there's a scenario here in which, I mean, look, it can't get any worse.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And it can get a lot better. It always gets worse. I don't actually think it can't get worse for Jaylon. Well, just for right now, Ian Hart, it's a fantasy life tweeted out that Jalen Waddle is the same targets and basically the exact same amount of catches in yards as John Smith this year, the Dolphins' tight end. And so they have the exact, exact same amount of PPR fantasy points this year for John Smith and Jail Waddle. But if you factor in the fact that John Hussmith's a tight end, you actually would have been better off the season just playing John Hsmith at Tide End than Jalen Waddle at receiver every week this season. That doesn't even include where you drafted them.
Starting point is 00:30:07 That's just true if you had them for free. But just think about you, I mean, you could literally get Jalen Waddle for nothing. If you could probably trade Jalen Warren right now and get Jalen Waddle. I've debated if you're a playoff. Jailen Hyatt. just cutting Jalen Waddle. All the Jailets. And just letting like a superior team get him as a sleeper agent to ruin them from with them.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Oh, that's interesting. Foist him. Yeah. Like Deonté Johnson. I'm sure this is what the Steelers do to do, the Ravens. They'll derail the Super Bowl run. It's a double agent. Are you guys on board with this at all or no way?
Starting point is 00:30:37 I wonder if I'm worried for you. Do you have Stockholm syndrome? I have stock in Jalen Waddle. I didn't have what I have. Stockholm syndrome. Yeah. I don't know where I lay. on this one, Craig.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Is he not the definition of a bylaw? No, he's definitely the definition. I am deranged. I'm deranged. You're right. Jesus. Am I so sane? So sane.
Starting point is 00:31:02 That I just blew your mind. The next one up here is we have Brian Robinson, Jr., the running back for the Washington commanders, DK. Yo. Why is he a bylaw? So first off, there might be some fantasy managers out there are starting to panic. Kind of sick of waiting for him to return. He's been in.
Starting point is 00:31:18 injured with this knee injury for that last couple of weeks, been a little bit off and on. And so I think there's a chance like if, if you have a manager that's like kind of just wanting to get out and have like a more like just a playable, more playable guy right now. I think Brian Robinson is a great buy for like the finish like the rest of the season, even at like past this week. Weeks one through five, he was averaging almost 15 points per game and have PPR. He was tied for third in the NFL and touchdowns during that stretch. And he had 95% of the teams inside. the five yard line carry.
Starting point is 00:31:49 So he was like their goal line, you know, guy getting all those carries. This is a good offense. They're getting into the red zone. They're moving to football. They're scoring a lot of points. Obviously, I think the fear with him was, is, uh, is the quarterback just going to, like, take all the keepers at the goal line and kind of like steal like Jalen Hertz style, um, with Jalen Daniels, but with Jane Daniels.
Starting point is 00:32:10 But I think they've shown like restraint and, and they've shown the ability just, they just want to give it to their running backs of like not risk getting Daniels hurt. So I don't think that Echler is like a big threat to him. I think they really liked kind of like the mixup that they had going with Echler and Robinson. And Robinson is like the powerback, the goal line guy, the short yardage guy. And so I think he has a real chance to be like a big time player down the stretch for a fantasy team. And I don't think he's going to be that expensive. I don't think he had reputational.
Starting point is 00:32:42 He's like not a big name. And he hasn't played for a few weeks. Just make sure that people know you're trading for Brian Robinson, not Bijon Robinson because the price would be a lot higher. Right, right. Bijon. Yeah, D.K. Brian Robinson has played the highest percentage of snaps inside the five-yard line than any running back in the league this year.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Oh, yeah. There you go. Washington, one, not only do they run the ball more than any team in the league. They also run the ball in the red zone more than any team in the league. So I like this a lot. I love this. My dad, all he told me in the run-up to the draft was draft Brian Robinson, Jr. And then the Giants didn't.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And then he talks about it all the time. So, yeah, every time he scores against the Giants, I hear about it. All right. Next up here. T. Higgins, the receiver for Cincinnati. So is our theme here, Craig, just take bad receivers who are hurt. How dare you? T has not been bad. Sorry, bad receivers or injured receivers. T's good but hurt. And then Waddle is bad or invisible. The other option is trade for good players who are healthy. That's pretty hard to do. That's true. I guess that is why you got to buy low. You should call it by hurt.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Yeah. T. Higgan. So Jemar Chase has obviously been very hot, right? Just had like the biggest game of his career last week. And I would say people have been very frustrated with Higgins, including myself. He's been out. He's missed basically half the games this year. But this is another team like Miami, like the Bengals have to go on the run. They're not out of it yet. They're one of the best passing teams in the league. And when you actually look at the stats of T. Higgins and Jemar Chase when they're playing together, they've played five games together this season. T. Higgins has eight more targets than Shamar Chase does this year when they're on the field together. He has a higher target share. He has more red zone and end zone targets when they're on the field. Chase is getting
Starting point is 00:34:15 he's like big explosive plays, a lot of them when T. Higgins is out. But when these guys are on the field together, they're actually much closer in production than you think they are. And T. Higgins, much like Chase, also is a guy who generates big plays, but it hasn't really done that this year. I think that's more of like an aberration than a trend of anything. But he's actually has the most targets per game he's had in his entire career, Higgins, when he's field this year, nine targets a game he's getting. So I think people are probably really frustrated with them.
Starting point is 00:34:39 And I also think maybe someone's like, you know what, Jamar Chase is going nuts. This is not T. Higgins's year. And I disagree. I think when these two guys are playing, the ball is distributed pretty equally between the two of them. I think this is really smart. What do you think, DK? Yeah, I like this because it's like trying to trade for Jamar Chase right now is like the guy who just scored 50.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Like, sure. But if you want sort of like the arbitrage version of this, the guy, a very good player in this offense with Joe Burrow. You know, this is a very past first offense, all that stuff, all the stuff you want to see in fantasy. And almost the 30% target rate when both him and Chase are in, which is huge. And so, yeah, yeah, I like to. lot. I think Higgins is one, again, he's kind of like this every year, but he's like one of the more underrated receivers in the league right now.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And if he can stay healthy, yeah, he has a real chance to like be a league winning type of player down the stretch. They're much closer to equals than fantasy stats and kind of the public sentiment in my own personal comments would suggest. Next one here at DK, you have Jordan loves a by-love quarterback for the Green Bay Packers.
Starting point is 00:35:41 A QB. Why not? Here's the deal. I think among quarterbacks that aren't like super mobile like he's not a quote unquote like dual threat quarterback he has i think some of the one of the highest upsides of the like i guess pocket passing quarterbacks that you'd say um so you're not going to have to get you're not going to have to spend big like the lamar jackson jalen hurts kiler murray or whatever those types of quarterbacks in the nfl right now um but he can he uh gives you like 18 19 point average uh which is like kind of rare in the NFL and so um he he's coming off a groin and
Starting point is 00:36:14 I think that's affected his play a little bit over the last couple of weeks. Obviously, he had the injury early in the season. Still on the bone, though, as far as we know. Not the brisket situation. Not as wonderful as the DAC situation. No, it's not wonderful for Jordan Love. He's still playing. I think just like overall, the vibes have really like soured a little bit with Jordan Love.
Starting point is 00:36:34 People were really excited about him early in the season. Now the vibes are off. I think this is a good opportunity to buy low on him. He's got a very good play caller in the Fleur. He's got good talent around him. like a lot of depth around him. And if you go to starting all the way back to last year, he's averaged over 18 points for game,
Starting point is 00:36:51 which is seventh best among all quarterbacks. For reference, Jaden Daniels is averaging 19 this year. So it's not as sexy as like a dual threat guy, but I think Jordan Love, especially like the style he plays with. He's like a yolo type of like passer. He's not afraid to like chuck it down the field.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I think he gives you some of that upside without, you know, costing quite as much as like some of these other like more sexy name. Yeah, if you look at, we're heading into week 11. If you look at week 11 on last year from week 11 to week 18, Jordan Love was the number three quarterback in fantasy. This team has just been really beat up the whole year. And I feel like it's just been weird circumstances for this team
Starting point is 00:37:26 since the beginning of the season when they played on that slip and slide in Brazil and Jordan Love got hurt and Christian Watson got hurt. And I do think that if I had to pick one team to explode over the second half of the season, it is the Packers who had to buy this week and have all their receivers healthy for really the first time. Yeah. So I think this is a great call. All right. next up we have very near and dear to Craig's heart.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Ladd McConkey. My boy Ladd. Leather for the L.A. Chargers. I love Lad. I love Lad. Ladd's been good. I would not say he's been great. At least he's been great on the field.
Starting point is 00:38:01 He's been great for the team. Fantasy-wise, he's been all right. There's been a bit of a boom offensively for the Chargers the last four or five weeks. But what's funny is that Ladd-McConkey has been the only guy who hasn't really benefited from that. if you look at Herbert and how much he's dropping back, the first six weeks of the season, 27 passes a game. The last four weeks, 34 passes a game. So he's literally throwing 25% more passes per game,
Starting point is 00:38:26 and it hasn't translated yet for Ladd. Ladd has only cracked double-digit fantasy points once over that hot four-week stretch for the Chargers. Look at the rest of the season. Again, this is a team that has been throwing more. Next week, they're playing Sinty, then Baltimore, Atlanta, Kansas City, the Bucks. those are three of the worst
Starting point is 00:38:44 seven past defenses in the league. These are all going to be high-scoring games except for maybe weirdly the Chiefs game. But I think Ladd could be like a legit top-10 guy rest of season. If you look under the hood, all those stats are awesome for Ladd. Like the yards per route run,
Starting point is 00:38:58 the man coverage. He's doing some pretty crazy things in terms of when Herbert's is Blitz, who he's throwing to. Ladd in the second half of the year, rookie argument, they always blow up. I mean, Ladder's already been really,
Starting point is 00:39:10 really good. And I think it, It's been a bit of an aberration that his fantasy performance hasn't translated. So I think he could absolutely explode. I love this one. I love all the rookie receivers. I think it makes sense to glad. I mean,
Starting point is 00:39:22 I think Ladd is like the lead of all the rookie receivers that makes sense. But I mean, I like this for rookie parasol. I like this even for Xavier Worthy for the Chiefs. Xavier Leggett is an ad. You can make on waivers for fantasy. Roma Dunsay, who I think will get cut soon by people.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Like Brian Thomas, who's a by-low because he was doing great, but now with Mac Jones. AD Mitchell for the Colts is a guy you can add, like all the receivers that were taken to the top 50, I think are really good either like players to add on waivers or like Craig said, like a train. I think this is a great one.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Ladd is just, he passes the eye test for me. He just looks really good. He just has it. The vibes are good in L.A. Herbert loves Harbaugh. What do we call in Herbert now? Because he's not hobbled anymore. Healthy Herbert.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Healthy Herbert. I'm trying to think anything better than Healthy Herbert. Healthy's not good. That was off the dome. Harbaugh dropping that pass was really funny that Herbert threw him before the game. He was so mad at himself. I want them to have like a Robin Big
Starting point is 00:40:18 like reality show. Yeah. They are like a, I mean, he literally has a bus. He's an RV. Yeah, you should just film that.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Next up. By-law, I have Trey McBride the tight end from Arizona. And then I kind of anticipated Craig yelling at me that Trey McBride's not a buy low because he's not. He's a buy high and I actually think you should buy low. You should buy high.
Starting point is 00:40:38 And so I also just think Sam Lipporteur, a tight end for the lines. And I kind of think there are two ends of a similar spectrum. But McBride, look, it's not easy to trade
Starting point is 00:40:47 for tight ends. It's almost impossible to trade for a good tight end. McRide's the number three tight end on the season. He's not caught a touchdown this year.
Starting point is 00:40:55 He's the number three tight end. He has a rushing touchdown. I think McBride is easily the number one of his tight end and fantasy going forward. I also weirdly swear that a crazy amount of leagues,
Starting point is 00:41:05 the guy who has trade McBride or whoever has trade McBride also is Tucker Kraft. I swear because the week the trade McBride missed for a concussion. A lot of people added Tucker Kraft. So there's a lot of leagues. I mean,
Starting point is 00:41:16 so there's a weird opportunity. I think there's a weird opportunity to get McBride or Chucker Craft because McBride's been good. And I would pay like he's great because he's going to be great going forward. But I also know it's really hard to get that done. So I'd also just say Sam Laporta, shoulder injury, maybe missing this week. If someone has, has Sam Lipporter but really needs to win this week or the next couple weeks,
Starting point is 00:41:39 I think Sam Lipporte is acquirable. And I like both. I don't think he's as good as Trey McBride rest of the year, but I think that those are two tight ends have a target. I like that. Sam Lipport has been such a frustrating one for me this season. Obviously, last year he was the Tid end one overall in fantasy. Ten touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:41:55 And yeah, we talked about how he's probably due to regress in the touchdown department. I just didn't expect him to regress so much, like so dramatically and just the amount of targets that he gets. Obviously, James and Williams coming on has been a big deal. But yeah, I don't know what to think. of Leporta. I don't know. Are you confident? Do you thinking that he's going to get, do you thinking he's going to get more targets going forward? Like a higher target rate? I do. And I do. And then also, it's little things. Like he was tackled at the five-yard
Starting point is 00:42:19 line in that Texans game. Like, he scored a touchdown. He should have scored two touchdowns. I think it, frankly, the touchdowns last year were, there's a little randomness that goes on with getting 10. There's also a little randomness with having like two with all. I think, I think, frankly, he is going to be a larger part of the offense going forward. So I like LePore a lot. It's weird how little tight ends are scoring this year, don't you think? that's like, Tray McBride has zero touchdowns. Travis Kelsey has two. Jake Ferguson is like tied for fifth among all tight ends and targets.
Starting point is 00:42:45 He doesn't have a touchdown. It's very low scoring year for tight ends. I think there's a lot of reasons going into it. I think one of them is that as teams have more tight ends on the field, paradoxically you'd think that more tight ends on the field for two tight ends sets to run the ball more would lead to more tight end catches. But I think what's actually happening is there's also more three and two-man route concepts. So you actually have more frequently a tight end staying into block sometimes. And I think that sometimes to play action, you're only having a receiver, two receivers you're really looking at or maybe the backup tight ends going out on the route.
Starting point is 00:43:17 So like I don't, I think that they're, I actually would be interested in pulling up the hood and seeing if there's just more three man concepts this season. I don't know. I don't know. It is a weird thing. Also, I just think they need people to block, frankly. I think that was September alone. Like, I think when you go from like 25 touchdowns to four in week one, part of me thinks that they just need a tight end to stay in and block more, frankly. Next up here, D.K., you have Baila, you have Devante Adams receiver for the Jets.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Wow. Yeah. So look, I get that the Jets are disaster and the vibes aren't good with Aaron Rogers and he hasn't had a 300 plus yard game in like a couple of years. I get all that. I understand. And that's why I think Devante Adams is acquirable. I think people are probably like, I got to get out from this Jets thing. The Jets are not nearly as good as we thought they were going to be.
Starting point is 00:44:02 You know, you might be able to, I don't know, give up like a RV2 type or even worse to acquire. Defante Adams at this point. But I do think if you look at like the underlying numbers for what he's done so far. Get under the hood. Yeah, get under the hood. Basically, you look back to anything, like going back to 2017. Every season, he's averaged more than nine targets a game. Every season.
Starting point is 00:44:25 That's like basically all I need to say right now. But like the last two weeks since he became a jet, 13 targets, 11 targets. He actually, he underperformed his volume-based expectation according to fantasy points last week by 15 fantasy points. Like based on his volume, you should have had 15 more fantasy points. He did have six. So obviously that, you know, another good reason to like go and try and see if you can get like somebody to bite on this. But I don't know, man, I just think with the chemistry that he and Aaron Rogers have the experience together, like they're going to get it worked out a little bit. At the very least, I think they're going to get on the same page and like there's going to be production there.
Starting point is 00:45:00 I don't know if the Jets offense is going to be good ever at this point this year. But like in half PBR and PBR, I think Adams is a value right now because of the. you know, the positive regression due to his volume in this offense. So you think I could trade like, I'm just kind of making some up here. This definitely is not a real life example from my league. Like J.K. Dobbins for Devont-Adams. Do you like that? Something like that? I think you might be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Yeah, maybe. I think it's always, it's like, you guys are always like, oh, I think you try and get into the minds of people. And I think everyone is a wild card. People are weird. People will make weird trades. There's weird trades in every one of my leagues, like almost every week. Just text them. I'm going a whole food. Do you want to make a trade? You just got to butter them up, you know?
Starting point is 00:45:41 Like, how you've been? I haven't seen you in a while. How are your children? His names I don't know. Say, how do you mother for me? Have you ever seen that SNL sketch? Andy Sandberg plays Mark Wahlberg and all he does me. How you doing?
Starting point is 00:45:54 Say, how do you mother for me? You didn't get Wahlberg. Are you doing it as Wahlberg? That's all I can do. Samberg doing, that's like how people, whenever like Sal does an impression of Bill, I can just do an impression of Sal doing an impression of Bill.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I can't do Bill. Of these, which is your favorite one that you didn't suggest? Mine is T. Higgins from Craig. I like that one a lot. And just Ladd McConkintude, all the rookie receivers. I don't like any of them. I think kind of just mine. I would say Ladd.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I would say lad. I like getting on the train of like a rookie receiver having a huge second half. And he's not going to be expensive. I like DJ Moore. I think DJ Moore is so talented. And Caleb is so talented. And getting rid of Waldron, new coach theory.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Only way to go was up. I mean, DJ Moore is like the wide receiver in 90. You could literally get him for nothing. I think that the two, yeah, the two players that were top 30 picks that I think the managers would give you anything for it.
Starting point is 00:46:50 DJ Moore and also Travis CTN, I think are the two most disappointing players position players and Waddle. But Waddle's like a multi-year running bit because at least Tua was, you know what I mean? I think the thing with Wadle is if you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:03 where it's like even when Tua was healthy and leading the league in yards, Waddle still sucked. Which like, if you just, having waddle. They don't know the depth of how annoying this is. You know what I mean? Yeah. Pick up a win this NFL game day on Fandall,
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Starting point is 00:48:38 I don't really want to be handcuffed. The definition of an object is a material thing can be seen and touched. I have a TMZ story here before we get in Fantasy Court. Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey's homes were burglarized. They were burgled.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Burgled. They were burgled. Were they burgled or burglarized? I prefer burgled. I think the common way of saying it nowadays is burglarized. I think burglars is technically correct, though. Burgles sounds like the name of a clown.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Burgles? The hamburglers. The hamburglers. The hamburglers is coming to the birthday party. Yeah. Burgles the clowns coming to. the birthday party. The worst clown name ever.
Starting point is 00:49:22 He just steals shit from your house. I'm terrified of this clown. That's a great idea for a horror film. It's a clown who robs you. I hate this clown. Eat that clown. Yeah, it's like some gas station or lay at three in the morning. No, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:36 So I just Kelsey and homes. Their houses were burglarized, burgled. Burgled. During the Monday of football game versus the Falcons, I believe. During Monday of football. And I just couldn't believe that we had this entire conversation about burglary, and then the story happened. Wait, wait, during this Monday night football game yesterday?
Starting point is 00:49:55 No, well, they were playing in Monday and a football a month ago. We just found out today, though. Oh, damn, that's a bummer. Was it the same guy, or was it like a coordinated effort, I imagine? They think it was the same guy, went to both houses. Wow, what a, I mean, that's ballsy. Yeah. Well, during the game, not that ballsy.
Starting point is 00:50:10 It's like, they'll never be home at this time. Like, don't you think there's enough in Patrick Mahomes's house to satiate you? You have to go. I got a Kelsey too. To another guy's house. Damn. Just one last job, Craig. It's all we need.
Starting point is 00:50:24 All right. So with that said, you know, just watch out for the burglary. All right. So we got a fantasy court case here. I don't know. For the burglary. I don't know, man. Good advice.
Starting point is 00:50:33 We have a court case here from Logan. Logs. Logs. I'm my friend from high school, Logan, we call him logs. That's good. I like that. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Loggs. Logan says, I'm the commissioner of our work fantasy league that is rightly named, quote, the league of no integrity. Oh,
Starting point is 00:50:59 spicy, doing that at work. Sounds like a Netflix show. Yeah, the ungentlemanly league of, ungentlemanly warfare. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:51:08 there's something. It's like, yeah, anyway, go ahead. I know, the league of, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:12 The league of whatever, yeah. It's common practice for all members to break as many rules as possible to win. I kind of love this league already. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:51:20 This is fun. Logan says the buy-in for this league is $50, and there has been multiple instances where someone paid $300 or more for their opponent to throw a game or bench a player. So this is just the purge league. The purge as a league. And so for this particular instance,
Starting point is 00:51:35 two members made a bet outside of fantasy football, and the bet was agreed. Whoever lost their matchup would trade the other, their best player for the other person's kicker. Wow. Which is pretty... That is a ballsy bet right there. So if you win, you get their best player.
Starting point is 00:51:53 It's like pink slips for fast and furious. I love it. The buying's only 50 bucks, and there's a guy paying $300 to win an individual matchup. You really get a... Sounds like you work with a bunch of degenerate gamblers. You're limiting your winning possibilities there. So the bet, so they agreed on the bet.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Member A put down the pink slip basically on CD Lamb. And member B said, you know, he was like, my best player is George Kittle. Well, Member B lost, so he'd have to send him to George Kittle, but he did not actually have George Kittle on his team. He lied. Oh, my God. Now, the guy who was supposed to get...
Starting point is 00:52:30 He sold him a bill of goods. Yeah, the guy who's supposed to get George Kittle, is pleading to be the commissioner to force Member B to trade his best player who's actually Bruce Hall. And member B is saying it's not his fault that member A did not do any due diligence to check to make sure George Kittle was actually on his team. He didn't look at the matchup and look at the other... guys team? I guess not. He trusted that it was Kittle? In the league of no integrity. So the
Starting point is 00:52:52 commissioner asks, do I reward incompetence and uphold honor by letting member A get Brise Hall for member B? Or do I punish member A for winning an honest bet, but failing to do his due diligence. I don't know. This league seems to be boring out of chaos. So I think this is allowed. I mean, I agree. Come on. It's kind of sick. It's like the thieves code or whatever. It's like, Yeah, you know what? It's literally like, it's, this guy is like trying to ask the commissioner for integrity. Yeah, right. It's not the league called.
Starting point is 00:53:22 It's called the league of no integrity. Not the league of some integrity. It's literally like, looking around the room. He's like, just no one here of integrity? It's like, no, dude. That's what the side on the door is for. I don't think you're allowed to complain to the commissioner about anything in this league. There shouldn't even be a commissioner, really.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Yeah. I think the team who faked out the guy and pretended to have George Kittle should be rewarded. He should get two of his, the two best players. Send CD land to that guy. It's like double the pleasure deceiving the deceiver. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:53:54 This is good. I love this. Should we still? The league of no integrity is pretty incredible. I want to play in a league like this. Shockingly, I've never heard of something like, this is great. Every time we would be in person, cheating is just freaking encouraged.
Starting point is 00:54:09 I would steal. K's phone and try to drop all his best players. Craig, I was literally thinking, like, you can't give anyone your phone. Never. Gonna get burgled. Yeah, I'm going to burgle your roster. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Burglary on the fantasy team. Dude, this is good. This is really good. Yeah, we got to do this. Should we do it and invite logs into this league next year? Let's do it. Logs. Oh, should that be the reward for this guy who duped them?
Starting point is 00:54:34 It's like, that guy, the reward is you get to be in this league with us. You get to be in the purge league? Yeah, purge league. All right, we're going to do this. Great, great job. This is the big leagues now. All right. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:54:44 This next one's not as fun, but it's just from a redacted. Yeah, how do you follow that? This is the best zombie league. They have a zombie team in their league. One of their teams was ran by the commissioners, younger sisters' boyfriend. Okay. And they broke up between the draft and week one. And so he wants nothing to do with his ex-girlfriend's older brother's fantasy league now.
Starting point is 00:55:05 So he will not play. And they try to replace him on like two days notice and they couldn't. they just decided to disable the team, add players from waiver, whatever. The commissioner decided to do nothing. So it's a zombie team and just floating about. And the zombie has zero wins on the year because he had Christian McCaffrey and then injuries and buys. And so the decision never affected anyone until now because now Christian McCaffrey is back. And so there is Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Mark Andrews, and Christian McAfree, which looks a hell of a lot better in October, November than it did in September.
Starting point is 00:55:36 And so. this really is the zombie. Zombie team looks like the best team in the league now all of a sudden. And our spineless commissioner wants to, quote, revisit disabling the team and wants to perhaps distribute the players prior to the playoff run. How do we handle this heel turn? And what should the punishment be? I mean, you have to let this ride, right? Yeah, you let it ride.
Starting point is 00:55:58 This goes back to the rule I kind of proposed where it's like, you know, in the NFL when if there's a penalty or like there's a. that's on you're unsure if they really made the catch they go and if they've run another play it's in it's in the record books like you can't go back after that point um i feel like if they've been doing this for weeks and weeks and weeks they can't all of a sudden change it now so i almost think now i think i'm kind of merging these last two fantasy court cases together because i think in our purge league next year it would almost be funny if there was a team run by no one in the league every year and and every week there was somebody who had to play the no name team You know, it's like playing the CPU in a video game or something.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Like, it'd be funny if there was a team we had to play that was just like a random collection of players that no one was running that couldn't be at or drop. The control. The control. Yeah, the control is like most, you could kind of treat it as like a buy week for your fantasy team, but every once in a while you would lose. It's like playing the Panthers or something. This is kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:56:56 You know what radicalized me about how ridiculous fantasy football is? I had a friend who one of our good, my best friends from high school. This is the guy, this is, yeah, 5-08 Jackson. and um oh yeah what he's a maniac five wife jackson he just um wife five times he goes about his wife jackson i was like whoa that would be more reasonable than five wife jacson and um anyway he doesn't care how many like how it feels he's just going five and then leaving he used to we talked him out of it risky anyway uh jackson is a cowboy's he was zero wife jackson until he changed the five wife, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:31 So Jackson, it's a Cowboys fan, didn't really want to play fantasy football. So he was like, could I just take all Cowboys? I was like, yeah, sure, just be in the league. So he literally drafted all Dallas Cowboys. And the only person he took that was not a cowboy was Dallas Goddard because his name was Dallas. So it was literally just a team of Cowboys. Right. This is two years ago.
Starting point is 00:57:52 He started 0 and 7. He then won seven consecutive games to finish 7 and 7. Nice. He missed the playoffs by like five points four on a tiebreaker. And if he had made the playoffs, he would have won the league. Because the way the Cowboys finished the season, never set his lineup one time. This is a good argument. So he just took the L in the Byweek.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Yeah, he took the L on the Byweek. And I think he did start swapping the players, running backs got hurt. But like he literally just played Dallas Cowboys and had Dallas got her. And that was it. And Dallas, who's the other running back? There's a running back named Dallas. He had that guy too. DJ Dallas.
Starting point is 00:58:34 DJ Dallas. Dallas got her. And that was when I realized how stupid this whole profession is. It would be pretty fun to also do a fantasy league where you can only draft players from one team. You have to draft according to like a theme. I like theme drafting.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Yeah, theme parties. Yeah, there's something there. It's like everybody has to be five foot nine. Yeah, that's the Halloween league or something. Yeah. Yeah. All right. You want to do a couple emails?
Starting point is 00:58:56 Emails. Wait, can I read an email? Oh, please. Yeah, that's right. Whoa. Wow. I can read emails. This is weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:05 We got an email from, let me pull it up here. Seth. Seth. Guys, earlier this year, Craig made an offhand comment about how he sits to pee at home and stands when he's out. And I didn't really think much of it. But then I was having one of those standing peas where the sunlight hits across the toilet area. And like some crystal clear rain up against the stadium light, I could see just how massive the spray of droplets was. All the spray everywhere.
Starting point is 00:59:29 So he thought, you know what, I'm going to give the old sit and leak a try. Life has never been the same. Not only is it more comfortable, but it is also way more effective at getting everything out. Plus, I have a small cabinet directly across from my toilet so when I pee, I can lean forward for some quick, amazing 30-second dad naps. After months
Starting point is 00:59:44 of this, I've now come to learn... He takes a nap whilst peeing? Sure. Look, it's a long pee. After months of this, I've now come to learn that not only is this way more common around the world, but the Germans even have a word for men who sit and pee. Sitz pinklers.
Starting point is 01:00:00 I literally have not stood to pee. Did you check that? I did. It's real. I have the article out. Sitz pinklers is a term. Sitz pinkler. It's actually, it's singular and plural.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Sits pinkler, no S. And yet Germans are basically trying to force men to sit and pee. And they have something called a, I don't know how to pronounce it. Is there like a whole alpha thing happening in Germany too if you pee sitting down? You're not Alpha or you're whatever. No, they don't make fun of you for that there. They used to make fun of you if you sit and pee, and now they're trying to outlaw that. They've instituted something called the toilet ghost.
Starting point is 01:00:36 The toilet ghost in Germany, first marketed in Germany in 2004, it's something that is placed under the toilet seat. And as a man lifts the seat to pee, a voice, a voice message requests that you return the seat back to its original position. And it used to be voices like Angela Merkel. If you would lift up the toilet seat, it would tell you to put it back to. down and they called it the toilet ghost. The government is watching you right now. I just thought that was nuts. Sitz Pinkler.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Sits Pinkler? So they're doing this because it's healthier? Yeah, healthier and more hygienic. Oh, wow. Yeah. So I'm a Sitzpinkler. I'm kind of a pioneer in America. Sitz Pinkler is so good. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Anyway, sorry to hijack the e-bell. I just thought that was really funny. We love German words here. That's hilarious. Sit and pee. Give it a shot, man. Wake up in the middle of the night. Sit.
Starting point is 01:01:24 It's great. There's nothing better. you don't have to feel like you're in a rush you know I literally sit and be 100% of the time at home I switch it up to be totally honest oh do you it's better in the dark like if it's in the middle of the night like you know how like sometimes you're like sleepy and you're pretty confident you can go back to sleep but if you turn the lights on
Starting point is 01:01:42 you don't know what's going to happen that's where I like the middle of the night that that's like a very blissful state of being where you're kind of sitting and being like half asleep I like it I'll get at 3 p.m. wide awake right after the show ends There's no scenario in which I'm standing up. That's correct. I'm outside of the house.
Starting point is 01:02:01 I'm at a curiosity, when you're like at a bar or somewhere where you're not home, and do you feel a little rusty? No. It's like riding a bike. Somebody tweeted at me, by the way, and said, thank you for the life hack of counting down from 10 if you have like a shy bladder in public spaces. You know, when someone's like standing right next to you when you're trying to pee at a bar? It works.
Starting point is 01:02:24 I'm telling you it works. I just saw a tweet or TikTok some video or something about a guy had an idea for a belt buckle that if you pressed it, it makes the sound of peeing so that when you go up in a urinal and you're nervous, there's two guys around you, you hit the belt buckle. And for 10 seconds, it sounds like you're peeing. So the guys aren't like, what's this guy's deal? Why isn't you peeing? He's just standing here next to me.
Starting point is 01:02:48 That's really funny. God, they thought of everything. They thought of everything. You just pushed the belt button. What if you brush up against a belt buckle like when you're doing? Yeah. What if you're accident
Starting point is 01:03:00 and just starts sounding like you're peeing. Yeah, you're at work in a meeting. You're only wearing that to like a crowded bar, I would have. That's really funny. Oh, man. That sounds like some gentleman's piss club merch.
Starting point is 01:03:12 That's one of our first items. Oh, that's good. Oh, that's. I'm into that. All right, well, the rest of the emails, we go to directions. Do you want to stay in the bathroom or do you want to stay in Germany?
Starting point is 01:03:20 Wait, those are the two choices? Wow. Yeah, let's stay in Germany. Okay. So, this was, from Jonas. Jonas. We asked what Germans thought about the Sean Hockily speaking in German.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Oh, yeah, yeah. Jonas says pretty cringe. Cute that he tried. Honestly, no one in Germany is using any of those words. We just say offense and false start in English. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Sean Hockely has no aura, and a lot of Germans agreed with Craig that it's kind of like... It's kind of like trying to roll your airs in a Mexican restaurant.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Like, just like don't. It's like saying Bartholona. And then Jonas, I was in Parthalona. It'd be the fuck out. Don't betha. And so, Ibitha.
Starting point is 01:04:00 And so Jonas then continued also. Do you guys remember when the happened, Trevon Diggs, the Cowboys quarterback got in the argument with a reporter? And then he was like, you know, these nuts. And then he apologized and got him the can of these nuts from the company. Yeah, banana. Or he offered him banana pudding nuts. And then we were like, why is it banana pudding?
Starting point is 01:04:17 Yeah. Jonas was like literally finished the same it with also. Did you guys not realize it's because banana putting these nuts in your mouth? Yeah. That makes sense. That's why it's banana pudding. Somebody tweeted at us at us afterwards. He said literally even the German ghosts were screaming about that one.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Yeah, that's a tough. It's a tough look for us. Yeah. So that's why it's banana pudding, these nuts. That's one of those items that's only purchased as a bit. Like nobody eats those. Well,
Starting point is 01:04:43 it's like Smearnoff Ice. Yeah. Like that's just a bit product. Totally. Like the entirety of their entire sales. Like, like, I feel, imagine people working on the Smearnoff Ice account. people and like you're entirely
Starting point is 01:04:56 and I feel like they don't lean into that in the marketing maybe because you don't you can't lean into like this is a punishment but it's a joke like Taco Bell is like yeah this is for people who are drunk and high and you know like damn you know the Taco Bell ups got at the
Starting point is 01:05:12 $20 random number generator like that's great but like the Smiranoff Ice people they got to lean into the Smearno of Ice. Can we get emails from people ring your fantasy football at gmail.com of people that earnestly drink Shmirate off ice Like, I'm going to sit down, watch my favorite show, and pour myself a Shmiranov ice. A Shmirnoff ice. Did I say it wrong?
Starting point is 01:05:32 Smeernaf. It's a Shmirna. Smeerna. Bung it a Blitz. Yeah, Smok and a Blitz. Yeah. Smok and a pancake. Yeah, it's thinking in European.
Starting point is 01:05:43 You know what's funny, though, is I actually think Smyrnaf Isis tastes good. Like, they do taste good. That's undeniable. I would love, smearnaf ice. If you're out there, we will sponsor the show. Yeah, that would love it. we will happily read ads for Smyranoff Ice. Yeah, if anyone get us in touch, that would be great.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Outside of maybe Kors Light, Smyrnaf Ice, one of the most impactful drinks of my life. Wow. Go on. I'm just saying, like, when I think about the drinks that, like, you know, I have memories about. Yeah. Amazing nights that I look back on.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Smearnoff Ice is involved in a lot of those. You're not at a Bachelor Party until the last person to get to the Bachelor Party has been iced. On my birthday in college, one of my birthdays, I don't know, my 21st birthday in college. Sure. When I had my first drink, as I was getting up to go to class,
Starting point is 01:06:30 I got ice four times on my way out the door to go to class. Like they figured out, they like put one smear and off ice where my toothbrush was. And then I got in the shower and there was another behind the shampoo. And then there was another like where my cereal was. And literally by the time I got my foot out the door, I was four smearing off ice as deep.
Starting point is 01:06:49 That's amazing. Email us for Ring and Fantasy Football, Gmail.com the best ways you've ever been iced. Any great ice stories? I still get such great pleasure. Exceptional. I love a good ice. There's nothing better than ice in something. Craig earnestly loves ice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Email us about Samiraf Ice for your fantasy football at Gmail.com, but particularly if you can get us in touch with them. Also, yeah, any exceptional icing stories. Speaking of icing, last one here. It's from Sebastian. Sebastian. We asked about the Stanley Cup. Seabass. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:07:19 We asked about the Stanley Cup. Sabass says, as a large. longtime Canadian hockey player, watcher and trivia lover. I actually wanted to reach out and clarify a few things about your hockey commentary. On the cup itself. Please do. Please do. Please do.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Players on the winning team, unfortunately, only get one day, not a full week, as I have it said, with the cup. And it has to be return to the NHL by the start the next season. And there's like 35 people that all get a day with it during the summer because it's players, coaches, and staff. Also, someone emailed to say that actually there's Loki, there's a couple of them
Starting point is 01:07:47 because there's one at the Hall of Fame at all times. Oh, interesting. I know. I think that the only advertised this one. It's like Air Force one. There's like five planes. Yeah. It's like the Constitution. We're like there's actually three and the real ones never on display. But yeah, it's like I'm in D.C. There's always a helicopter flying. They're never in that one.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Anyway, yeah. So, D.K. correctly guessed that the stand of the cup has seen some shit over the last 132 years and just a few things that have happened to the cup. It has been used as a toilet by a baby, twice. Two different people's babies have pooped in the cup. It's been used as a dog, food bowl. A child was baptized in the Stanley Cup.
Starting point is 01:08:24 It was drop kicked into a canal. It was abandoned on the side of a road. You're kicking a trophy? Drop kicked into a canal. It seems like it would hurt your foot a lot. It was abandoned on the side of the road and lost for an entire year. What? It was used, I know. It was used as a bonfire. Dude, I don't know. We got to look into this. It was used as a
Starting point is 01:08:42 sisterhood of the traveling Stanley Cup. This one, I wish I had had time to research. It was used to burn the mortgage of Madison Square Garden and then extinguished with players urine. Do you think they sat or stood? Oh, you, Pins Pinskillers? What is it? Pistinkler. What is it? What is it, Craig? Sid's Pinkler.
Starting point is 01:09:04 During the 1941 NHL season, the mortgage on Madison Square Garden was fully paid and the management celebrated by burning the mortgage in the Stanley Cup and then pissing into it. That's, I think that's cool. I've decided that's cool. It was left at the bottom.
Starting point is 01:09:20 That's cool. Left at the bottom of Mario Lemieux's pool. All right. And then it is used to feed the winning horse for the 1994 Kentucky Derby. Stupid question. Has there only actually been one cup? Like, how long has it been the same Stanley Cup? That's a great question.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I think it's the same one. I don't know. For 132 years? You think that's the original cup? Dude, can you have it? Yeah. It's like, yeah, I don't know. It's sort of Griffindor.
Starting point is 01:09:42 It just gets stronger over time. I don't know. You don't get that joke. But neither is DK. I got it. I got it. Yeah. What's the Venn diagram of references for us?
Starting point is 01:09:52 Is it Happy Gilmore? That Happy Gilmore. Because SpongeBob is me in High Fitz. Lord of the Rings is DK in High Fitz. We should make the Venn diagram. That's a good point because like Happy Gilmore is more my era and you guys, but you guys get it. Yeah. Actively quote it.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Yeah. So that makes sense. This is the end is our era, but you actively quote it. Right. Also, an email from Sean clarified about a week after we won it, I had my newborn daughter, this is a hockey player. I had my newborn daughter in there and she pooped in the cup. that was something.
Starting point is 01:10:20 We had a pretty good laugh, but I cleaned it out and I still drank out of it that night. D.K. as a parent, how does that make you feel? They, a baby pooped in it
Starting point is 01:10:28 and then they drank out of it? Later, yeah. They cleaned it. They cleaned it and then they drank out of it. Yeah, I probably wouldn't do it. But I guess if you cleaned it very thoroughly with bleach or something. That's where you got to drink out of bleach.
Starting point is 01:10:42 I was going to say, I think I'd rather drink to poop. The fecal matter than the bleach. Really? Well, I mean, bleach is very butch used to clean things. Maybe not what you're drinking out of.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but I also don't eat boogers. So maybe I'm just squeamish. All right. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, D.K.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Thank you. Jonathan. Thank you everyone behind the scenes. Thank you, Kion and Carlis for producing this episode. Thank you to everyone who's emailing and fainty football at g-mobile.com. More fantasy courts.
Starting point is 01:11:09 More trivia questions off any of these topics we discussed today. Tell us more about Smearing-off ice. Please send us your Smearned off ice stories. email us about what is it called Sitzpinkler Sits pinkler's emails about your Sits pinkler stories if you want to become a Sits pinkler if you have questions anyone emails
Starting point is 01:11:27 about Sits pinkling and of course Thank you Lord. Thank you Ramstein or Rammstein I'm not sure Do you remember the song Dohaust No it was all in German That was definitely my era Do host Do host me
Starting point is 01:11:45 That's kind of ringing a bell I think you would recognize it. How do you spell any of that? D-U-H-A-S-T-E-A-S-T-E-E-RAMS-T? The Ramstein pair is too Haast. I see this now. It was like big for a hot minute there in like the early 2000s, I think. Ramstein?
Starting point is 01:11:59 Ramstein? It's like pretty hard. 97. What were you guys so mad about back then? Why was everyone so mad? I don't know. You were buying houses for like 100 grand back then. I know.
Starting point is 01:12:17 You didn't have any Bluetooth? Life was bliss. No, it's great. Look, I like, I like Bluetooth. I just don't like that they haven't improved it in like ever. You don't like Bluetooth. No, I like, I like the option of having Bluetooth. Like, I don't like wired stuff.
Starting point is 01:12:32 But I just wish Bluetooth would work well. That's all. It's just so funny. Like, I literally have, I've probably had one or less Bluetooth issues in my life. And I find it incredibly convenient. Yeah, Bluetooth is kind of an incredible system. It is like a magnificent invention.
Starting point is 01:12:46 You've never had it like, you've never had your phone connect to something that you don't want to connect. I actually think Bluetooth is getting better because my AirPods have an incredible ability to connect to my phone or my laptop whenever I want that thing to start connecting to it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I can't believe they figured that out. You just asked me why what we were so angry about. It's people like you. You guys are making me mad right now. Back in the day you could tell that the new generation is going to be annoying. Yeah, yeah. Back then when you were figuring out
Starting point is 01:13:13 where the sun was going to be. I like the idea. What do you guys think like, like my generation was doing per se in the late 1990s. I feel like to be totally honest the late 90s, because you guys were alive for the record.
Starting point is 01:13:28 I think to be totally honest, the biggest and most unspoken difference between your generation and ours is that at one point, everyone seemed to be totally okay spending time with their own thoughts. Well, they had always been until like 10 years ago. They didn't know anything better.
Starting point is 01:13:45 The idea of like waiting for an elevator to arrive without checking my phone. What are you supposed to do? Just be alone with your thoughts? Stay in there. I can't remember if I said this on the pot or not, but I was at the doctor's like a couple weeks ago and I forgot,
Starting point is 01:13:59 I left my phone with, like in the car, and I just went into the doctor's office and they were like, the doctor will be with you soon. The doctor didn't come for like 40 minutes and I just sat there. I just raw dogged that appointment.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Do they not have any magazines? No. He's in the room. I mean, I was in the actual room. Oh, you were in the doctor's office. Sitting on the little bed with the piece of paper that goes over the bed, you know? And I was just looking around, looking at the posters on the wall. What did you think about?
Starting point is 01:14:27 What did you think about? What did you do? I know. It was actually kind of nice. It's nice not getting triggered by TikTok constantly. What did you do? What did you think about? Well, first of all, there was like things that you would occupy your time with magazines, books, things that you could read. Art, culture, literature. Yeah. You could talk to each other.
Starting point is 01:14:48 to a human beings of Dwayne Wade. But yeah, like I do think it's interesting like now with the, you know, like the TikTok thing where it's there's something happening in half of the screen and then there's something happening in the top of the screen. So it's like for people that, so I don't know why they like to like watch something while they're listening to something else.
Starting point is 01:15:05 It's because watching somebody talk is boring. So they have to play like a guy playing skate the video game below it. So that you can, you know, it is really funny. That's wild. That's funny that like there's like TV going on and then you're like, second screen's your phone and then that's getting cut and half it's really like a third screen too
Starting point is 01:15:22 and like I think I've said we joke about this we used to joke about this a lot a couple years ago but most conversations now if your partner comes home from work it's basically just like how was your day honey she's like oh scared I stared at my medium size screen all day do you want to just unwind with me and we can like put big
Starting point is 01:15:38 screen on while I look up my little screen nothing better than some nothing better than unwinding with some small screen I love the small screen while the big screen's on because that's how I relax from middle screen man. D.K., if you remove all of the medical advancements that have come with 2024, do you prefer the lifestyle of the 1990s versus today?
Starting point is 01:15:58 That's a tough question. I think I do. But everybody has nostalgia for their younger years, you know what I mean? For whatever. Like, everyone has nostalgia for bygone times. But, like, I don't know. There's a lot of very, very convenient things that come with, like, having a phone. like directions, knowing where to go,
Starting point is 01:16:19 being able to contact people when you're like not at home. Bluetooth. I think it's better. Yeah, Bluetooth. Google Maps is like one of the greatest products that's ever been made. Yeah. Like we used to like print out map quest like literal just like step by step directions of how to get somewhere.
Starting point is 01:16:33 That is like the only thing. I think about that like every three days is how people got places. That's your Roman Empire. Yes, it genuinely is. I remember my mom having the giant map looking at what freeway exit to take. I just can't believe people did that. I can't believe I can't believe it
Starting point is 01:16:50 No I'm lucky enough that I get to live through both eras I feel like my little micro generation straddled the analog era and the digital era Wait fuck there's a maybe we should not say this on a YouTube live Craig there's a really funny movie that someone should write Or like honestly give you a TV show
Starting point is 01:17:07 Of like actual post apocalypse But it's not like Mad Max It's just Everything's the same But there's no internet and none of the people that are 40 have any idea what to do. Like, no one doesn't go anywhere. No one doesn't do anything.
Starting point is 01:17:20 No one has any money. Like, no one knows that I don't fucking do anything, but everything's okay. It's not the apocalypse. It's just like 1964. Yeah, it's just the internet's out. No one can fix it. No one really knows why. There's some glitch.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Like, that's it. That's the entire thing. Isn't it there's been studies that like kids these days are like having less sex, drinking less, doing fewer drugs. Yes. I actually have wanted to talk about this on the show for a long time. Yes, there's a lot of studies. to suggest the kids...
Starting point is 01:17:47 Because of the internet. Well, no, there's two ways to look at it. Okay. And I'm curious to you're going to think. But yes, to your point, there are very comprehensive studies have been done that.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Spending less time together, more time on their phones. I think is a big part of it. But the sex thing, I think is twofold. You could look at it as kids have... And this is definitely true. It's like way more first experiences
Starting point is 01:18:06 with like any kind of sex are all pornographic. But the other thing I keep wondering is, I think the older people were fucking lying about all the sex they were having. And I actually think, younger people are way more comfortable admitting they haven't had sex.
Starting point is 01:18:19 And all of you people in every previous generation was lying through their teeth. And now the younger people are being more honest about it. I haven't heard that take. I like that. Like there's no way that like dudes taking this survey from college in 1977 told the truth. Care to comment, Daniel? What you were doing in high school? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:36 What were you doing? Well, the first thing that comes to my mind is like you asked, what did you do when you didn't have a phone or anything to do? It's like people get bored. They get drunk and have sex with each other. Yeah, I mean, look. I never stopped. Don't you think that like in the 70s, 80s, 90s, whatever?
Starting point is 01:18:52 Slowed down. All people, all men wanted to do it every weekend was like, we got to go out and talk to girls. There's nothing else to do. Now it's like, dude, let's play Fortnite. Yeah. No, I think that that's, I think that's like a trend that technology was having, but I think post-pandemic accelerated everything. Like, I mean, not to just now we're the old generate. Now, Craig, we're the old guys talking about them kids back in the day.
Starting point is 01:19:13 but like I do think I have a bunch of friends whose parents are teachers who have been teachers for like 30 or 40 years and they all independently say the same thing that kids had phones forever from like when we were growing up but like 2020 was when even in 2019 when the class ended two minutes early kids talk to each other and when they came back from COVID
Starting point is 01:19:35 class would end and kids would just be on their phones and kids stopped talking to each other and breaks after COVID and I think that that absolutely is going to extend for that generation to like what you said earlier the joke like hey like I'm going to Whole Foods making it around like I do think that like pick up lines and like the idea of meeting people in person has functionally like ended yeah I think there's a certain amount of like it's like a compulsive act to look at your phone you know what I mean like oh yeah when you don't when you're not focused on something actually right in front of you it's like the next impulse
Starting point is 01:20:08 is to look at your phone even like it's contagious if you pull out your phone if you're dinner. Yeah. Other, if you're a dinner too, someone else pulls a phone. Okay,
Starting point is 01:20:16 so I can, I can look at my phone. Oh, it's small screen time. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, small screen time. And then if you put it down,
Starting point is 01:20:20 then they put it down. Literally trying to go a day without opening a social media app. It's very hard. It's like, I think, I think of like going to, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:27 games when I was growing up and no one had cell phones. I didn't have a cell phone until I was like in college. And it's just a different dynamic. I mean, I'm not going to be like, oh, kids these days don't understand because I think you could still go to a game and people are like talking to each other.
Starting point is 01:20:41 It's just like way more phone stuff during a game. You know what I mean? Then like it used to be. It's like it's kind of it's a weird thing because, you know, we'd go meet up with each other and like everyone's just hanging out. You don't, you literally can't look at a phone because it wasn't, it didn't exist. Can I criticize one more thing? You know, Hyvids, have you seen those pictures of like, for those of you who say that
Starting point is 01:21:01 we're on our phone too much? And it's like a photo of people on a bus in like 1972 and they're all reading newspapers. Everyone's reading a newspaper. Get the fuck out of here with that. That couldn't be more different than everybody being on. TikTok. That is so different. Everybody like reading an article about the state of politics versus now you're on your
Starting point is 01:21:16 phone for two hours, like watching a video to see how many tater tots a guy can stuff in his mouth. It's not the same thing. Being on your phone versus reading the newspaper. Should we break this out and put it on TikTok? If you're watching this on TikTok right now, stop scrolling. Get off the app. Go in the world. Go read a newspaper.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Actually, no, don't do any of that. Do it at this with you seeing how many tater tots you can stuff in your mouth before we finish the conversation. Like, subscribe and follow. Oh, man. Pisses me off. Reading the, yeah, it's always been the same. Get out of here with that.
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