The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking the Best Trade Deadline Moves, and the One-Second Song Challenge

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

POWER HOUR! Reactions to the splashiest NFL trade deadline moves, including Mike Williams to the Steelers, the Commanders going all in, the Cowboys getting fleeced, and much more (2:00). Along the way, the guys reach Fantasy Court verdicts and run through some emails (33:23). Later, Craig and DK compete in the one-second song challenge (45:17)! Remember the Titans (2:50) “Sir, a second George Pickens has hit the Steelers” (5:13) Get ready to learn LinkedIn, Emmanuel Forbes (7:29) The Lions can’t keep getting away with this (10:24) Jerry Jones is older than Joe Biden (12:41) Gone, but never forgotten: Bengals-era Zack Moss (15:39) COOOOOOOOP (19:40) Getting back with your ex can be complicated (22:01) Will Diontae Johnson fix some of the Ravens pass-catching woes? (24:22) The Jags made a strange decision trading Cam Robinson (27:25) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producers: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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whatever day. We're recording this live on the ringer NFL YouTube channel on Tuesdays, live anywhere. You get your podcast on Wednesdays. And today we're going through the NFL trade deadline because that's the biggest thing happening on Tuesday, November 5th. So we're going through the trade deadline. And then later in this episode, not only do we have an exhilarating fantasy court, but also we're going to do something very fun.

You do a little name that tune. We're Craig and D.K are going to actually compete and see if they can name songs in literally one second. Thank you, everyone emailed us. It's going to be very fun. And we're going to play a bunch of songs for one second because it's hard. And also that way we hopefully won't get sued. But we're going to go to the power hour right now because it's trade deadline. Right into it.

Right into it. And again, we're going to power rank all these trade deadlines deals because we're going to go through. And this is my power ranking. It's going to be something I call reverse chronological order. which is that's basically we're going to go through. That's how you ranked it. That's how we ranked it. All the deals in the last month.

But we're going to get rid into it. And again, we're going to just power our style. So if you don't know, every two minutes, you're going to hear this sound. Great song. Love that song. Nirvana. Just absolute inner piece every time I hear that. I thought you were saying Nirvana saying that song.

Oh, no. Oh, yeah. That's what I thought. I thought that was a bit. Like you were saying, oh, I love the band Nirvana. Yeah. I mean. So I meant like the complete real.

Realization of self. Yeah, whatever. I actually don't know what Nirvana. Meadhi. Nirvana moksha. I don't know what it's about. Anyway, I'm cheating right off the bat. Number one, we have to talk about DeAndre Hopkins first after the Monday football

game of the Chiefs one. DK, number one trade deadline moves so far. We have Titans traded DeAndre Hopkins to the Chiefs. Seems like it's going to work out. So far so good. He had eight catches, 86 yards, two touchdowns on Monday night football. Obviously it looked like vintage DeAndre Hopkins. There was one play where he made and went up over three guys that made a catch that set

up a touchdown. He's beating guys off the line of scrimvage, just using his size and, you know, wily ability to get open latent routes. Yeah, it just feels like he's going to be really good in this offense. He already has good chemistry with Patrick Mahomes. He wins in traffic. He's big. He's reliable. Basically everything that the chiefs needed at this point. And it's everything DeAndre Hopkins needed, I think. He's so happy. He's so happy. He gave an interview after the game. It was just so wholesome. He was like, I've been manifesting this. He tweeted out a photo day of Moss and He's just like having the best time. And I'm really happy for him.

I feel like Hopkins is a guy that has been grinded his whole career. I'm just like super happy for him. He's had six 1,000-yard seasons from six different quarterbacks or four seasons, but there were six quarterbacks in those four seasons because a couple of times it was like Davis Mills and somebody else. Oh, you want the list? I got the list. Yeah, hit me.

An almost comprehensive list of people who've thrown Deontja Hopkins past the NFL. Matt Schaubb, Case Keatham, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ryan Mallett, Brian Hoyer, T.Jates, Brandon Whedon, who I forgot about. Brock Oswiler, Tom Savage, then Deshawn Watson, Tom Savage, DeShon Watson, A.J. McCarran, Kyler, Murray, tore his ACL. So it was Colt McCoy, Trace McSorley,

and David Blow into Will Leveson and Mason Rudolph. And then the 18th quarterback is now Patrick Mahomes. That's manifestation. He was like on a track to be like the Allen Robinson, you know, like with all, just like all bad quarterbacks for his entire career. But I'm glad he snuck a few in there. obviously, I kind of had forgotten for a second that he was on the Cardinals.

I knew that. No. I mean, I knew he was on the Cardinals. Yeah. I think I had forgotten. He was heard a lot. Yeah. So anyways, I think it's going to work for the Chiefs. I think this is a good thing for them and for him.

The one thing I'll just say about Hopkins, he can catch. Mahomes doesn't have a receiver who is like a bucket, like a catch guy in like four years. Hopkins is the best receiver catcher of the football. Mahomes is probably ever played with, which it's going to be crazy. Number two for deals just done at the trade deadline. This is something today. This was one of the last deals done of the day. Craig,

the Jets traded. Your guy. Receiver of Mike Williams to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Jets get a fifth round pick. Craig, where are you at emotionally? Sorry, the Steelers have Mike Williams.

This is your guy. Yeah. I kind of'm like, hell yeah, two George Pickens. What's the Austin Powers? Twins. Twins.

Twins, Twins, Basel. Look, they're not exactly the same. But I like that the Steelers, a fifth round pick for them. It's like the worst of their two fifth round picks, whichever one's lower at the end of the season. They're kind of, the Steelers are just like,

you know what? You know what we're good at? Throwing the ball deep. We're going to double down on that. Deep shots running the football, threes and layups. And Pickens was the only downfield threat we have. We got Mike Williams,

who Aaron Rogers hated because he ran the wrong route or whatever. But you know what? I'm down with this. The Steelers, I think, I mean, we'll get to the next trade. They traded for Preston Smith as well. Steelers are going for it this year. And I like that this is still, they're not like selling the farm to make this happen.

This is like calculated somewhat low risk, low spend moves here to kind of round out the team. And look, you need a pass rush to win a Super Bowl. And if you have Russell Wilson, you need guys who can catch the ball downfield. So I think this is dope. My boys in Pittsburgh. Come on. DK, you feel like, yeah, you feel like Williams is still good. I mean, obviously he sucked with the Jets, but that's because Rogers was just sick of him.

It's coming up in ACL, he's taking his time, you know. I mean, he's getting, he was still getting ramped up. the Jets offense was kind of a mess. I don't think it was a very good scheme fit with the way that Rogers runs his offense. But with Wilson, my first impression of this trade was like, this is perfect because he's so good at owning that sideline little area

going up and elevating over players and bringing down a pass. We've seen in Wilson's two games so far, like the offense is basically run the ball, boot out, and like throw the ball to tight ends, and then throw it deep and let your playmakers make plays. And Pickens obviously is probably like one of the, the best in the NFL at this right now.

I think what Mike Williams is like, he's still good. Like he's not, he's not going to be an elite player for them, but he's a really good role player who can make big plays, make big catches on the sideline. And Wilson's like the perfect quarterback for that. Ooh, look that timing. Look at respect on Tom Tom, Tom right there. Oh my God.

Number three, this one was crazy. So the Saints traded cornerback, Marciaun Latimore to the Washington commanders. Yeah. Washington gets, there was like a bunch of pick swaps. I feel like listing pick swaps is like the worst thing. Basically what happened is Washington also gets a fifth rounder and the Saints get a third or fourth and his six. So it's really Marshall and Lattimore for a third and a fifth. That's really what happened.

I thought this was a really smart trade. I feel like this is Washington trying to win, not just the NFC East. This is Washington trying to win the NFC. And then quarterback was the biggest need for Washington. Like Sam 40A, it trusts as much as anyone in the NFL on like 48 on the Washington commanders. Sam works for the Washington Post. And he immediately was just like this lets Washington play single high safety and man coverage. And it puts everyone on the Washington defense in a better spot.

But I don't know, Dika, I think this is a really big move for Washington. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, my first thought too was just like Washington knows that they're going to be competitors, you know, this year. Yeah. In a completely like wide open NFL, like there's basically two or three really good teams and then a bunch of other teams that can compete. And I think Washington knows that, you know, make a few smart moves and they can really be here. The other thing I think that's been like interesting with Washington over the last like four or five weeks is I think this defense might actually be good. I remember at the beginning of the season, we thought they were the worst defense in the NFL.

Like, this might be an absolutely, like, terrible defense. It'll make like tons of shootouts. But the defense has been kind of shutting people down. So again, team of destiny. I just keep coming back to Washington is kind of like the team of destiny this year. They just have something magic happening. This is really like the American dream of football. Like what's happening with Washington right now?

Like, this is why you want to get rid of your shitty owner. If you were in a coma and you just woke up after 12 months and you're a commander's fan, what happened? Someone in a meme that was like my aunt woke up from a coma of 13 years and someone was like tweeted. It was like, Teller LeBron's still doing it. That's right. Which I just lost it. But yeah, for the Washington thing, like I feel like you can move Mike Santer still out to slot corner back where he's going to be better.

He's a rookie. And then you can have Ben St. Juice like out to out. Like just he's a better number two corner. And frankly, they played Washington winning the division. They play the Eagles in two weeks. They play the Eagles again, week 16. Like you have Latimore. Now you can guard A.G. Brown, Devante Smith, Danquin, wants to the last one.

play some man. And again, single high, helps him to run, helps with the past. I think this is a huge move for Washington. What NFC East receiver is going to be hit the rivalry now, do you think? Because you know how you had the Mike Evans, the Mike Evans thing? AJ Brown. Laddimore and AJ Brown. Well, AJ Brown's hurt and it may not be back for a while, but yeah. They play in week 16.

All right, there we go. It'd be cool if we just started fighting Malik neighbors. That'd be fun. Oh, get the fuck out of here. Why would you manifest that? Why would you manifest that? Beat somebody when they're down. That's the best time to do it.

It's the least danger to me. Yeah. To kick someone when they're down. Also, they traded Johan Dawson for a third and then basically traded that third to get Marshaun Lottimore. Not bad by Washington. Oh, we'll get to that in a second. Next one here.

The Browns traded defensive ends of Derry Smith to the Detroit Lions. A bunch of pick swaps here too. Basically, it's just a Derry Smith for a fifth rounder. And I thought this was a good move. Obviously, the Lions lost to Aidan Hutchinson as defensive end. He had led the whole league in sacks. He was on pace to break the sack record. But it's not just him.

It's like John Kaminsky's the other defensive ends, been on IR since August. And then, you know, Kyle Pecco is defensive tackle. So he really went on IR right the same week that Aidan Hutchinson did. And so I feel like this is the kind of move where you make it because you're going to forget that the lions have Zedarius Smith. And then there will be a third and eight in the fourth quarter of a divisional round. And he gets a sack. And then the lines move on. And you're like, oh, my God, that's why you give up the fifth round, right, DK?

Yeah, absolutely. I think that's a perfect way to explain this. The things that you need in the postseason, like a. really good pass rush when you're leading and another team is trying to come back, you have like four or five guys that you can rotate in and like just have them tee off on the quarterback because you know the opponent,

the opposing team is going to be passing. So having depth in the past rush spot is so crucial, so crucial for a team like the lion. So this is just like a really smart move. I guess he didn't really fit with his previous, who did he get traded from again? Now I'm playing with him. The Cleveland who he didn't fit at the team who sucked.

Yeah, yeah. Cleveland obviously is just like at this point. kind of, you know, trying to get the most. Also, talk about vibes reversals this year between Amari Cooper going up for Browns to Buffalo, Zadari Smith, going from the Browns to the Lions, like vibe reversals, Craig. I feel like, so Zadaria Smith, he had, uh, got a, next gen stats tweeted that he, does Zadirio Smith had 26 more pressure this season? Sorry, 26 total pressures this season. 17 more than the next closest active edge rush on the Lions. And I, I feel like these two teams, these two trades that look at in tandem, Washington getting Latimore and then

the Lions getting Smith. These are two of the better teams the NFC. I feel like a cornerback or defensive end to a contender, Craig, is like an NBA contender getting like a wing player who can like do 3D and like switch everything. I feel like there's an element of like bench depth for someone who can play in the playoffs. Yeah, especially in the NBA, it's like you literally can't have too many guys

that are like the 3 and D lanky wing guys and that is exactly the same thing with pass rushers. I completely agree. Like I said, it's like same thing with the Steelers. It's like, you know, Herbig and Highsmith and Watt. Now you just have more insurance. If any of those guys are banged up, which they often are.

Yeah. And then so next one here, I got the Panthers trade receiver Jonathan Mingo to the Dallas Cowboys. The Cowboys get Mingo and a seventh. and the Panthers get a fourth round pick. D.K., what did you make of the Panthers getting a,

of a Cowboys giving up a fourth rounder for Jonathan Mingo? I mean, it felt like by far the biggest overpay of the, of this whole trade period. DeAndre Hopkins went for a fifth. Yeah. And like, I don't know.

It's just, it's so funny. Because remember when the Cowboys like traded a, way Amari Cooper for like a fifth rounder. And yeah, like, I don't know, for whatever reason, they're really bad at judging what guys should probably cost. Well, I think the most charitable interpretation is like Cooper was making $19 million and like Jonathan Mingo was going to make $500,000.

DeAndre Hopkins will make $5 million. That's the most charitable thing you can say is like the contracts matter in a little. Sure. And then they totally mispriced the Marry Cooper market for, because that ended up being a great deal actually, Cooper on $19. And then to your point with Mingo, like, that's like the Cowboys Apologist. thing to say, like the DG academics defending Drake. Like you'd be like, well, you know, with Mingo doesn't make you that much money to use

a rookie control. And I look at this like, but a price is also what someone will pay. No one else is going to give up a fourth rounder for Jonathan Mingo. Yeah. And there's also a little bit of a problem happy. He's not any good. Like he hasn't, he has not shown at all that he's any good in the NFL so far. This is former 39th overall pick, basically came into league as like a height weight speed

guy. He didn't produce that much in college. In fact, I think his final year at Ole Miss, he was out produced by Malik Heath. It's cute. Do you know where that guy is? He's currently, I believe, like seventh on the depth chart in Green Day. He's the guy that when it comes up in a search

I do in true media, I filter him out. Yeah, because it doesn't count. He doesn't count. But yeah, I mean, like, basically every stat you look at, I saw this from Kyle DeVorchek. He's out of 81 receivers, 500 routes since 2023. He's like 81st and PFF receiving grade, 79th in yards per route run,

76 and yards per reception, 81st and yards per target. Like, he's basically almost dead last in every, you know, metric, when it comes to receiving, he has not shown at all that he's good. I think the one thing you can do, or the one thing you can say to, like, defend the Cowboys here is say, maybe they have a plan to use him a little differently than the Panthers did.

I think he's more of like a big slot guy. This has been one of the talking points from a lot of the tape guys today. He's just, he's better if he's going to be running like the Rashid Rice routes where he's just going on little crossers over the middle, run after the catch, like use that height, weight speed that he has instead of trying to make like a one-on-one outside guy. So maybe there's like a little hope there, but like this feels like a terrible trade.

I totally agree. The optimistic thing is that the Panthers kind of had a masterclass and not using a player well with Jonathan Mingo. The downside again is, as Dom just pointed out in the YouTube chat, I don't think you could get a fourth round pick in a dynasty fantasy football league

for Jonathan Ngo right now. That's kind of tough. I mean, he was literally fourth on the Panthers depth chart. Yeah, it's just weird. next up, D.K., we also have the Bears traded running back Khalil Herbert to the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, I kind of like this one. Zach Moss out for the year, I believe, or at least for four weeks with a neck injury. You know, obviously, Zach Moss had kind of like seated playing time to Chase Brown over the last few weeks.

Chase Brown looks like their lead guy, but they do need some depth. They need a guy that can come in and, you know, spell Chase Brown. They don't want to give him too much workload and have him wear down as the season goes on. Herbert has always been a really good runner. He's pretty terrible, at least has been in the passing game. So I think he's probably going to be more of a rotational guy on early downs. Chase Brown will inherit more of the passing down stuff. Although that was kind of like the opposite with Zach Moss.

So it'll be interesting to see how they utilize these two guys because Zach Moss was the passing downs guy. And that's not Herbert's game. But overall, like he's a good runner. He's elusive. You know, he pops in a lot of the efficiency stats and broken tackle stats. at least he did last year. And so this feels like a good trade for the Bengals. I feel like more teams should trade like backup running backs to each other

when they're just not like fitting. Yeah, Damien Pierce, I thought he was going to be potentially shipped somewhere where Nixon's been pretty banged up. Because should the Bengals have just kept Joe Mixing? No, because I think there was like he was kind of a pain in the ass for them in a lot of ways and he was getting older and I don't know if he necessarily fit what they wanted to do.

And so I think it was obviously, Mixed in hindsight looks great for the Texas. but I think he perfectly fits what they're doing where he wasn't quite the same fit for the Bengals. It's funny. I wonder if they're getting too cute. Like if they get rid of T. Higgins a year after they get rid of Joe Mixen and like this offense just isn't what it used to be,

I don't know. It's going to age pretty poorly, I think. They get rid of T. Higgins and just have Micahisickey come back and play the T. Higgins role. Yeah, 31-year-old Mika-Sickey. We didn't talk enough about how the insanity of how Jermaine Burton, the rookie receiver for the Bengals. Oh, my gosh.

He was going to be the focal point of the game plan for Cincinnati and that he didn't come to the walkthrough. on Saturday, and then there were photos of him at a casino and a slot machine. And then he showed up and, bro, like, screamed at him on the sideline. And he just showed up to the walk through the game in pajamas. Something happening there.

Something going on there. The slot machine is kind of weird. That's like the last thing I would do it. But there's something unhinged about it. It is. Yes. That's the right. That's the kind of behavior you show up in pajamas and throw a fit when you are being benched. You're being elevated to the focal point of an NFL game. And then you decide that you

throw a hissy fit. Like, it's just like, that's like not a thing you do when you're a normal person. Like that's just the unhinged thing to do. Like, hey, you get to be the star of the game. Nope. T. Higgins probably sneaky thrilled. Yeah. Yeah, thanks for making me look good, pal.

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Where are you out on this trade a few weeks after it happened? Other than maybe Hopkins, I like this as the best bang for your buck, just because Hopkins was so good on Monday night. But, I mean, they're basically paying Amari Cooper like a million dollars. And the way I see this is just like, look, as the weather gets cold, you get into the playoffs. I do think, I don't think the bills regret getting rid of Stefan Diggs at all,

but I do think you need a little bit of insurance. You need a veteran there to like make a big play when you need it. They don't really have that. They have rookie Kiyon Coleman, who's been good in getting better, but he's still a little bit unpredictable. You have Khalil Shakir, who's a good player, but not a guy that can like really like win at the catchment when you need him on like a third and 10. The perfect role player.

Totally. And then you have like Matt Collins and Curtis Samuel. So this is like the perfect guy that I think you can depend on because it's just a, a young receiving core in Buffalo. And, you know, when it's a crucial moment, you need somebody who can deliver. That's exactly what Amari Cooper is. And again, I think that Cooper was about opening up the run game for Buffalo. They want to be like a bully running team that can also like, you know, get you a man's who can do both.

And they basically like defenses didn't have to play too high versus Buffalo anymore because they didn't have anyone who could win one on one. Cooper's that guy. But like, it's get you a man's who can do not both three things because Cooper can win on one on one. He can block. But that's thing. He's not, what's the word?

Selfish. Like, you know, Stefan Diggs was like, I've never been the bigger person in my entire life. Amar Cooper's not like that. Amar Cooper's not the guy who's demanding for the ball. We're always like, oh, like, Cooper's not the guy demanding a certain amount of targets. That's why he's never had commanded a big target share, which in, you know, spreadsheet world sometimes gets translated. He's not that good. I don't think he's selfish. I think he's an unselfish player who like came in very immature to Alabama, left very mature under the Nick Sabin experience, and like doesn't demand the ball, wants to win, actually a super like reasonable player. And so I think

that's the culture that bills want. So I think he's actually in a way an upgrade over Stefan days because stylistically and personality-wise, I think he's a better fit for this team. Oh, he's also, like, speaking to the maturity thing, he's kind of been everywhere, man. He was at the, he's on the Raiders, Cowboys, Browns with the Deshaun thing. Like, Marie Cooper's seen a lot of stuff. Perfect example.

Those are three, like, deeply unsurious organizations. Cleveland, the Raiders or the Cowboys are teams. They're jokes. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he's wise in the ways of the world is what Craig is saying. Yeah. Yeah. Next up here, the Raiders trading receiver Demante Adams to the Jets.

I think this trade has aged like. milk. It's really funny. Really? Well, I guess it's not milk, but it's not wine. You know what I mean? I don't know. I look at this trade. And I was, I felt like they should do it at the time just because you're all in on the Rogers thing. You might as well go in.

Like, it's a third rounder. I think it becomes a second if they go to the like the freaking AFC championship game and Adam's on the team. That's not going to happen. But they're really going to have to extend unless they let him go. They're going to have to really restructure his contract. And they're going to do this Rogers Devante thing again next year. And so the Jets are not making the playoffs this year.

How do you guys feel about the Jets right now? I mean, obviously it's a disaster. We don't have to go and have the Jets are catastrophe again. But I feel like we haven't lingered enough on, they're going to have to run this whole thing back again next year. Like, is there a world where the Jets are underrated with Rogers and Vante next year? Probably not. I think people are going to be like, you know,

a little gun shy about really going in on the Jets after watching what they did this season. Is there one in which they're slightly underrated right now? Well, I think they're not going to make the playoffs. They're not going to make the playoffs. But I, it's funny. This team is like two field goals away from being five and four right now. Do you want my unfalsifiable conspiracy, not a conspiracy theory, take? I feel like if they hadn't fired Robert Solid, they would have won the Bills game and they could be leading the AFC East.

Like, like if they just hadn't fired him, that game was so close, it was so sloppy. It was like, I don't know. I think that was crazy to fire Solidity in that game. And so we might look at this trade totally differently if like a couple field goals to go differently in that Jets Bills game. And, you know, so it. I don't know. There's a world, but anyway, it's obviously turning the team over to Rogers was like a catastrophe. You know the meme of the guy like on the plank of wood hanging over the cliff and he's holding the gun at the guy standing on the other side of the plank and it's like neither can move? That is what Rogers is doing to the Jets right now.

I actually don't know that meme. Do you know that meme? In the chat, chat, let me know if you know that meme. Okay. I think, actually, I think I can picture it now, but I don't. It's like a plank of wood hanging half over a cliff and there's a guy on the on the land side and a guy on the other side. And the guy hanging over as a gun. But if you're the guy in the cliff, wouldn't you shoot him in the face and then jump backward like Sequin, like revertle back to land?

I guess only Seekwon could do that, though. So that's tough for everybody else. Yeah, that's a good call. Yeah, someone puts Seekwon on that meme. All right, next step, we have the Panthers trading receiver Deonti Johnson to the Ravens, which happened. I don't know, a week ago, six weeks ago.

You know, who can tell time, really? But they got a fifth round pick. I think what's funny about this, Craig, is that if Deonti Johnson had gone for like a fourth, like Jonathan Mingo did. And then Jonathan Mingo had gone for like the weird late round, like moving up 20 spots in the sixth round, which is what Deonti Johnson with.

If those were reversed, I think we'd all be fine with it. That would be like understandable and reasonable, it feels like. It was very weird that Deonti Johnson, by far the best receiver on the Panthers, went for what he went. And then Jonathan Mingo was like,

20 picks in the sixth round. That's what Jonathan Migo had essentially been benched. I mean, more or less. And he went for a fourth. I don't, like, I don't get it. I don't know. The answer, I think, is money and salary.

but it's kind of insane. I don't know, Craig, what do you make of all this? I just think it's funny that the Ravens essentially missed the playoffs last year because their young wide receiver fumbled the ball and lost them the game. And their other wide receiver, Rashad Bateman, ball hit him in the face last week, and he can't catch. And then they're tied in Mark Andrews, as D.K. likes to say, like, can't stop volleyball setting balls.

So it's like, I just, this trend of like, we need veteran wide receivers who aren't going to screw up in crucial moments. And then you bring in Deonti Johnson, who, I don't know. if he's that. Is he that? He wasn't really that in Pittsburgh. He can't stay on the field, but Craig, speaking of memes, this is like the, why do you always give me your hardest battles meme? Stop getting

receivers who drop the ball. Can you find me someone who catches the football? The Rashad Bateman thing, I will say. Look, the sun was in his eyes and it was a weird angle, having said that. The video was so brutal. Like, it hits him in. The Marcos was an incredible ball. He gets him, he just like flails and flies back.

Yeah, he always like, you had to put him in a concussion protocol because the ball hit him in the face. We've been doing the Rashad Bateman thing for three years. I know he got hurt, but like... It's funny. A Ravens fan, I made that joke on Twitter, and a Ravens fan was like, you know, the other receiver most likely to recreate this player is Deonti Johnson?

Totally. He's like just like an evolved version of the same guy the Ravens were trying to like not have to depend on. And again, every time he gets hit, he's... It looks like he tore his ACL. I'm going to lightly disrespect Tom Tom. Craig, do you think the Ravens think that they pulled a fast one on the Steelers by routing Deonti Johnson through Carolina,

but getting him into Baltimore. But do you think the Steelers actually think they pulled a fast one of the Ravens because they're like Deonti Johnson is going to just demand the ball, screw up the chemistry of your like, just world destroying offense, and like drop a ball in a crucial moment

for the playoffs. I mean, the Steelers got rid of Deonti Johnson for a seventh round pick. So that should tell you all you need to know about that. Yeah, when Mike Thomas gives up on a receiver, like, pay it, like, don't think you could fix that receiver. Speaks volumes.

That's a good, yeah, speaks volumes. When he chooses, is George Pickens over you? That should tell you something. And again, I still think the reason the Steelers did that was they knew fields and Russ couldn't get down to the ball and it was going to go like catastrophically.

And so they bailed him at like Mike Williams and Pickens stylistic, they were better. But yeah, that's not ideal. Next up here, this happened live on a show and we really get to react to it. But Jaguars traded left tackle Cam Robinson in Minnesota. And the Vikings got Cam Robinson.

And it basically was like, A fifth for a sixth? What do you make of the Jaguars trading the starting left tackle on their team? Well, he had been benched the week before or that week for Walker Little. So I think basically this was them just being like, okay, well, we're kind of washing our hands with this guy.

But a fifth rounder for a guy that was playing left tackle for you? I know. It feels like everybody in general is really cheap. Doesn't it just feel like that? Like all these great players are going for like fifth, six round picks. I understand he got benched,

but I guess I look at it as like if you need to go get a left tackle, even serviceable, like for example, if Walker Little gets hurt, could you flip a fifth rounder back for another's playable player? Like the Giants are starting a freaking Chris Hubbard at left tackle. And I'm like, just, I don't know. I mean, it's not like starter caliber tackles are like plentiful in the NFL. You know what I mean? It's like the offensive lines are a mess everywhere.

It is a little bit strange that this is what they got from. At the end of the day, he's like in the last year of his contract, I think they saw him not as a player that has a future with them. They wanted to get I guess Walker Little in there. That was an opportunity to kind of get at least something for him. But it is strange. It does feel a little bit like the Jags

are just like kind of punting on the season, which they probably should. I just feel like I don't know what anything costs. I know. Trades are weird these days. It is like very it seems like it's changed. I don't know if it actually has changed, but it seems like it's like everyone's so much cheaper. Does it feel like there are more trades at the deadline now than there used to be? This feels like where it's like in baseball

or basketball now. I remember the A's trading for pitcher John Lester for like, you know, the last three months of the season just to like give it a shot. It feels like moves like that are happening more and more now in the NFL. Yes, I totally agree. So again, and Cam Robinson is a free agent at the end of the year. I get that. But I'm looking at this trade. Unless I have this wrong, it's a Cam Robinson and a conditional sixth rounder for a conditional fifth rounder that could become a fourth in 2026th. And I guess that's a fourth rounder in two years, but I'm like, I don't know. Like you still have eight games where Trevor, you're protecting Trevor Lawrence. I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm wrong.

Maybe a fourth round or two years from now is a good return, but I don't know. I mean, look, look, sometimes in the, we don't have all the information. I haven't read anything. I'm just like reading between the lines. Maybe he is just a knucklehead and they don't like him anymore. That's a good rule of thumb. I don't know. Like, you know, I'm just guessing, but. No, but if I can argue against myself, the team giving the player away knows 10,000 times more than the other team and especially us. So that's probably right. There might, there might be an element of that to it as well. So, you know, he got benched for a reason. I'm having, did Tom Tom play or not, I forget.

It played. Okay. We were so enthralled with talking about Jacksonville. Who would have thought we went the longest on Cam Robinson left tackle choice? I know. So I want to hit Fantasy Court and I want to do this awesome named that tune game. I'm very excited about this. But last, we have to hit.

So have you guys seen that the Pope is using the New Orleans Saints hashtag? Yep. If you don't know what I'm talking about you can go to Twitter. Well, avoid, there's a lot of stuff on Twitter right now, but Pontif X on Twitter, Pope Francis, tweeted a few days ago. He said, The Saints are precious pearls. And he, like,

has a tweet. I think it was like Saints Day. But he used the hashtag Saints, which the actual New Orleans Saints logo pops up. But if you click, it's just a bunch of Saints fans tweeting about Dennis Allen being fired and then the Pope. And that's it.

Kendrae Miller. It's just Kendra Miller. Yeah. It's like Michael Thomas tweet. It's people quote tweeting Michael Thomas shit talking Derek Carr with the Saints hashtag. And then Pope Francis. Do you guys think it's funny that the Pope has a Twitter? Dude, that was exactly what I was going to say.

I'm like, Pope Francis' top five weirdest twitters. Did you know that? I think I'm not, Catholics can like, you know, tell me if I'm wrong with this. I kind of feel like, isn't the Pope sort of being supposed to be like the stand-in word of God? Like, he's communicating with God and telling the people what God is saying. Like, we're literally, we have a Twitter account of God. He's tweeting. Wait, on that.

God is talking. So did you guys see Quincy Jones. So Quincy Jones passed away this week. Did you see the Quincy Jones Pope story? No, no. Oh my God. There's so many good Quincy Jones anecdotes flying out. Quincy Jones, craziest life of all time.

Oh, my God. Used to buy cocaine from Malcolm X, he said. And then, like, he did all these songs with Michael Jack. Like, craziest life I've ever seen. He was like, he's like best friends with Bono. And Bono has him over to his house when he goes to Ireland because Ireland is racist or something. And then he's like, I love Bono so much. He named his son after me.

And then the next question was, are you two still making good music? And he was like, and it was just like shakes head. He doesn't give a shit, dude. The last like 15 years, he's been saying anything he wants. There's a Q article, a Q&A, and there's another Q&A. I want to see in full time bangers. They're actually the two best interviews I think I've ever read, literally in my entire life were these Quincy Jones interviews.

They're crazy. And so he passed away this week and they went around again. And he was talking and he said, in 2018, Quincy Jones was telling a story about he met Pope John Paul in 1999, John Paul the second. And I'm reading Quincy Jones, quote, all the guys in the Vatican had these Vatican black shoes. Oh, yeah, and I think Bono brought him to the Vatican.

So all the guys in the Vatican had these Vatican black shoes. The Pope had on some burgundy wingtips, man, with thin, tan rib socks. We had to go and kiss his hand before we left. And when I kissed his hand, I looked down, I saw the shoes, and it just fell out of my mouth. I said, oh, my man's got some pimp shoes on. And he heard me. Yeah. Quincy Jones.

He's the best. He's the reason why I had the idea for that podcast called The Deathbed, where people just come on kind of at the end of their lives and just like actually like Just give takes? Why are you doing that way in YouTube live?

We can't even cut that. That's amazing. Yeah. I mean, it's hard because you have to go after people who are about to die. Tell them they're about to die. You have to be with them while they're dying.

Yeah. First guest, Jerry Jones. Honestly, yeah, he's doing it every week. Yeah, Jerry. Yeah, just a radio show. All right. Is when he gets to some fantasy court? Let's do it.

Yeah, let's do it. Definitely don't tell anyone about this thing that you're doing. I don't really want to be handcuffed. The definition of an object is a material thing that can be seen and touched. You know, that, that object definition helped us reach the proper verdict. So I'm glad I read that. That's the best one.

Also, email, so we're in fantasy football at Gmail.com if you have other crazy anecdotes from interviews that we, other than Quincy Jones, Quincy Jones like stories. But yeah, so Fantasy Court, I want to start here. This is not exactly a fantasy court case, but this is a very legal adjacent email we got. And I wanted to start the Fantasy Court in session with this legal adjacent email from redacted. They didn't ask to redact their name, but I'm going to redact their name for them. Redacted. Okay. Redacted.

I'm a prosecuting attorney. Recently, I got a case from our local police department involving a felony in possession of a firearm. A couple officers approached a park car. This is the ringer fantasy football show. Yes, yes, yes. To be clear, just we talk about fantasy football. Continue. A couple officers, prosecutor emailing us.

A couple officers approach a park car at three in the morning, four guys inside. there are drugs on the center console visible through the cars of a bell. Officers approach. One of the guys bolts from the car and starts running. He leads them on a foot chase through an apartment complex, many buildings and grassy areas in the middle. He eventually drops a handgun while he's running. And after they catch up to him, they recover the handgun. He's a convicted felon, so not allowed to possess the firearm.

I'm reviewing, prosecutor speaking here, I'm reviewing all the dash cam videos of the officers involved. One dash cam video stuck out. As I'm watching this cop driving his car through the apartment complex, chasing the subject, I heard people talking and laughing in the background. And at first I wondered why the cop had a bunch of loud people talking and laughing in his car during a live police chase. And then I turned the sound way up on the video recording and I could clearly hear Hifitz's voice saying, this email's from Travis. Stop. And then I hear D.K. saying, Travis.

And Craig saying, Travich. No way. And then Hyfitz then proceeds to read an email from Travis about how his boss tried to get him to bury fake indigenous bones in his boss's backyard to fight an HOA. and take pictures of them thinking about. Wait. So wait, where was this playing? Exactly. I'm not going to name the place,

but until I hear back from the prosecutor. But, yeah, so they were listening. So this was on the dash cam video of... Of an arrest. The prosecutor's like doing his job. So there's a chance that a video playing our podcast could be played in court, in real court. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. See, if it goes to trial, it will be played before a jury. It will be played before a jury. That's hilarious. And so the prosecutor at some point has to talk to the cop. He said, I'm considering calling the cop. And Brandon Aubrey could be on that jury. Dude, that's like super bad.

Dude, that could be us. So the prosecutor, he ends the email of saying, when he talks to the cop about the case, he might start the case by saying, so they make Coke flavored Oreos and Oreo flavored Coke, but you knew that already. God.

But yeah, so I thought that was wild. That's hilarious. This is, I mean, the odds of all of these things happening, like him hearing somebody in the background, cranking up the audio. recognizing it's us, emailing us. Trave. The cop happening to be listening to us while he's, it's just, it's like,

there's give me a jury watching this case to determine about the firearm and all the stuff. And in the back road, we're going to be like, so he wanted to do the fake plastic bones to fight the HOA. Like that will be played in court. That's amazing. That's like the perfect moment in the show, too. The guy talking about burying fake bones. And honestly, that means he's deep in the show. He's a listener.

Oh, like, oh, he's a listener. We might get 12 new fans, though, on the jury. That's fun. Oh, yeah, there you go. And that's how advertising makes me. Water cooler talk right there. Wow, that is. Thank God you read that email.

That's crazy. Oh, my God. That's amazing. E-bils through your fantasy football at gbill.com. If any other, you know, you come up in any other cases. All right, we have our own docket to get to. Come on, guys.

This is serious. Sure, sure. Judge Jury executioner here. All right. This is from Andrew. Andrew. Andy. Drew.

We've had a league, my college league for 15 years now. and outside of a couple years when we've played around with Keepers, it has always been, 13 of the 15 seasons have been a full redraft league. To my knowledge, there's never, ever, ever been a trade involving draft picks in future leagues in future seasons. Until this week when the commissioner acquired Sequin Barclay in exchange for a second round pick swapping with the seventh round pick.

This is a redraft league, a normal league, and he's like, I'll give you next to your second, give me seventh rounder and safe one. That's insane. Dude, I know, I don't need to read the rest of the email. Oh, that's the fuck no. No, there's more. And I'm like, we don't need a. That is the dirtiest.

Basically, the commissioner's like, oh, find me a rule where it says I can't do that. You are such a scumbag. Get out of here, commissioner. That is pathetic. The vast majority of our fantasy courts this year are just commissioners being fuckboys. Yeah. It's out of control. You're just abusing your power.

Abuse of power. You just sitting here like, oh, my God. You guys never said I couldn't trade a pick in the future. And this rule I just made up. Get out of here. The commissioner's like, come on, it's fine. The other guy's like, I don't think we can do this. He's like, I'm the commissioner.

We can do whatever the fuck we want. I know. Dude, it's corrupt. All right, that's easy. Andrew, tell your commissioner, go to hell. All right, this next one's from Noah. That's tough, though. What should the punishment be?

I guess they got to like just like reverse the trade. You undo it. I literally, I actually already responded to the C-bill because I do what you guys would say. And I said, I basically was like, just, you know, tell the commissioner that I was thinking of the Charlie Munger line where he's like convincing Warren Buffett. And he's like, look, Warren, you're a smart guy. And I'm right.

So I think he'll come around. And it's like, I was like, just tell him, surely he was just really excited by this. And obviously didn't think about what a total bullshit push league move this is. So like once he thinks about it, surely he'll come around. Screw that guy. This next one here is from Noah. Noah. Noah.

So really helpfully, he starts with the too long don't read is I'm in a league with with children and they're fucking everything up. Actual children or like children men who are like acting like children. I'm assuming or is it like 11 year olds. Nine, nine-year-olds. You don't fly with kids, you don't play fantasy with kids. That's why I wanted to do. This is a new territory for us.

Yeah, flying with children, bringing kids to weddings. These are controversial topics. Kids in Fantasy League, I think is right there. And so I think Noah writes, I meant to email you after the episode where you mentioned Colorado School of Mines, and he's an alumni of the Mines. And he actually tells me he had a coworker who also thought he had said, I went to the Colorado School of Mimes. And she told him a year later that he thought he was a mime and he didn't know he got the job,

which I just think that's hilarious. like a full year as coworker he works with every day. He thought he was a mime. It's very common mistake. Incredible. But anyway, the fantasy court case, I'm going to league with his girlfriend's, his girlfriend's family.

Yeah, and the league expanded this year to include two new members, one of which is only nine years old. It's his girlfriend's niece, or no, a nephew. And for the first works of the season, basically the kid dropped Pooka Nuku. That's what happened. The kid dropped Pooka Nekua.

His girlfriend picked Pooka Nakua up. And then the nine-year-old dropped Stefan Diggs. He didn't go to use the IR slot. And then the great, grandfather picked up Stefan Diggs. That doesn't matter. Stefan Dix's ACL. His girlfriend now is starting Pooka Nakua, and everyone is like, is fine with it.

He thinks it's crazy. And then when he got Diggs, the grandfather said, look, the kid needs to learn that there are consequences to his mistakes. I said he wasn't ready to be in the league. So he wants to know, so Dave had the nine year old. So the Diggs towards ACL, but he, uh, who is this? Josh? Noah.

Noah says, should my girlfriend be forced to return Pukinakuwa to her nephew? Or is this just a great roster move? Oh, man. When did this happen? This happened a while ago, right? When he was still hurt, I'm imagining. I think it's whatever, yeah, it's whenever he got. So it's the week after he came back.

Look, this is like a week ago. There needs to be an age limit here. You know, if you're under 13, you need a chaperone. You need a fantasy chaperone to run your team, I would say. Like Instagram for teens? This feels like a meet the parent situation, doesn't it? where like Noah is Ben Stiller and like the rest of the family

is just like colluding and like taking advantage of this nine year old and he doesn't know what to do. DK., you're the father. What do you think? I think you kind of have to let this go. Is the nine year old broken up about this

or are they completely oblivious to what's going on? They seem blissfully unaware. Right. Unfortunately, so like Craig, I know got mad at us when Hyfitz and I told the one person that emailed in

to reverse the Pukukukukukua drop. Remember? That was an adult who got drunk and dropped. Right. That's not the same thing. And I think to be clear, like, they didn't play any more games.

I think it's like, you know how in the NFL, like, the teams are like scrambling to see about reviewing a play, whether they should challenge it. And then as soon as you run another play, it's like, well, that's over. You can't do anything about it now. I'm kind of like, they've already played multiple weeks with this guy. It's like, it's over.

You can't really do anything now. I agree. Most of the cases we get were like, hey, someone made a mistake. What do you think? I'm like, well, that's what a mistake is. Yeah, most of the things I'm like, yeah, publicize this and everyone can learn from it. Like, you know what I mean?

Like every day, like it's, yeah, I agree. I agree, D.K. That's a good one. It's like when the play got ran, it's like, yeah. They needed to address this immediately, I feel like. Don't have a nine year old in your fantasy league. I think a key to it is like you are not a family member. Like, buddy in and because it quickly becomes like you guys are too mean to this kid.

And I feel like that's also like a little dangerous territory. It would have been funnier if he was adding all the players that this nine year old was dropping. and they were mad at him, that would have been good. All right, Noah. Yeah, you got to suck it up. And then lastly, we got a court case here from Drew.

Andrew. Drew Drewie. This is more of a, yeah, he's more coming to us in a lawyerly fashion. He says, what's up,

guys, I need a ruling. I'm the offending party and I'll agree to whatever you say. Okay. And he basically says, okay, he noted how,

DK, you have a rule in a league that you're friends with that if anyone has a zero in their league, you have to shock him. Great role. Yep.

Great rule. And like if multiple players get to zero. I shot a under beer last night because of that. Super fun. I feel like you did that three weeks ago. You did that a lot. How many players are you starting putting up zero?

The Broncos got, they got annihilated by the Raven. And the week before that, it was Zaflow, or the week, a couple weeks it was like Zayflowers. You had two when you were in L.A. Yeah.

That was Debo getting to Modia. Tank Dell got zero that one game. Right. Andy Dalton, we have pick six is like worth negative six. So Andy Dalton threw pick six and got zero. Yeah. And that was,

he was Mike backup quarterback. It was like, someone was off that week. We have 30 leagues. What are you going to do stream of defense? So this is, so Drew basically is writing in, and I think we all know the answer here.

He's like, well, I had Xavier worthy and he didn't have zero. He had negative two. So that's not a zero, right? Which, dude, obviously that's a fucking shock.

Right? Yeah. Yeah. It's worse than zero. In fact. Nice try, Drew. Yeah. You're lucky we're letting you just do one for that,

honestly. I know, that would be kind of fun if a league had a, like a rule where it's negative point, for every negative point. It's a shot out of beer. Oh, man. We don't have that rule, but.

Yeah. Drew, nice try, but you're, you're shot. That's the whole fantasy court. He just wanted to know if he needed a shotgun of beer off negative two. You want to know if negative two is zero, which, yeah, it is. It's worse, actually. It's much worse than zero.

Fucking Sumerians figured that out. I would say you have to shock in like a 16 ounceer if it's below zero. That's an idea. Shotgun a tall boy if it's under zero. That's good. Chuck on a Fort loco. He said he'd do whatever we said. We have power.

I think it's definitely a tall boy. I think he's a tall boy. That's a great call, yeah. That's what you get for trying to wiggle out of it, Drew. More beer. Yeah, more beer. All right. Fantasy court, that's all in session.

Bring in the dancing lobsters. That was an easy day, I will say, at the office. A lot of straightforward fantasy courts. I kind of like that. Yeah. Don't make me think. Oh, corruption? Yep, that's bad.

All right, we're going to do something that I'm very excited for. Thank you to everyone. So we, a month ago, I think, at this point, it may be longer. we talked about songs that you could recognize instantaneously, literally one second. And literally we got hundreds of you emailed us. Thank you so much. Rigger Fantasy Football at Gmail.com.

If any of you are inspired, please emails at Riga Fantasy Football at Gmail.com. This was very fun. I think I'll put a playlist together because if you guys play this with your friends, this is an amazing drinking game. It's an excellent drinking game if you want to play this with your friends. We can make a playlist and put it out there. I'm the judge, well, not the judge, but I'm just the person who put the list together. D.K. and Kregor compete.

And we're going to play. literally one second of a song because I think that's funny. And then also because that way we're pretty sure we won't get sued. And we're going to play one second. And D.K. and Craig have to race to figure out who can give the name of the song first and the artist. And these were listeners submitted these songs, correct? Yeah. So all of them are from listeners. Right.

Okay. And thank you. Thank you to everyone. And two points will be rewarded for each song. Whoever gets the name, whoever gets the artist. So if Dek gets both, you get two points. If you guys split it, you get one. And if no one gets out, it gets zero.

And we're just shouting the name or the artist. as quickly as we can? Yeah. And I'm sure what could possibly go wrong. Yeah, this is going to be fun. I'm very nervous about this because I know the name of no songs, basically. And so we're just going to both be like, genius of love TomTom Club.

I think you'll be able to do it. And if not, we'll figure out immediately. But I think I'm optimistic. I hate these quick thinking games. I feel like I freeze. No, you're going to get it. Craig, we used to play this game in elementary school where we did like the multiplication tables and you'd like have to go against someone else and

Like, oh, six times three. Uh, six times time. Uh, 34. Just like my worst nightmare. So everyone, and you can play along. And if you have fun listening to this, we'll make a Spotify playlist and you can play. This is an amazing drinking game. We're going to go through.

We have DJ, DJ Rick here on the board here. DJ John Richter is going to made all these buttons for us to be. Oh, yeah. So we're going to get right into us. So we're going to find out whose internet connection is the fastest here. Boom. And we're going to start with, uh, this one is from everyone. It was by far the most popular.

I can't even name everyone. But just give us like, everyone. Here we go. DJ Rick hit it. Somebody. All-Star. Smash mouth. Smash mouth.

Yeah. See, trying to say it at the same time is like tough. Do you have a better fix? What if we did it like the way we did? I don't know. Yeah, that's Craig can just have it. That's fine. No, you got the band.

He got the name. He got the band before me? Yes. Well, debatable. I said smash. And then Craig said smash. I was like speaking slowly. Okay.

Then Craig gets both. That's fine. He can take both. This is like, we need to figure out a good way to do this. No, is there a better way? It's just,

wait, what is the name of the song, All-Star? It's all-star. It's just, whoever's the loudest. It's like most things, you know?

Yeah, that's true. The loudest wins. We just had a whole election like that. I'm going to Craig because I think you, you were very confident and quick. Somebody.

I thought you were going with it's been. That's probably coming. Yeah. We'll keep going. And then if it's a disaster, then Richter just let us know or Austin or Kai. I just let us know if this is a catastrophe.

Should we do like hand raise and then hyphen points at who? Oh, I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like Jeopardy. And if you're wrong, I'll deduct a point. But then, and you get like, you only get like a couple seconds if they, if you get selected to come up with the name in the band. Oh, that's smart.

That's such a better idea. Okay. Next, this one's from Ryan. Ryan. Oh, Craig did it first. Bob O'Reilly, the who? Boom. Oh, this is like Jeopardy.

Now it's the band. Yeah. Now this is the internet connection game. Yeah, because I felt like I raised, I felt like, I felt like, I erased my hand quicker there. Honestly, I think you did. I think you got it wrong. I'm giving it to D.K.

No. Wait, do I get it wrong? No, he got it right. Bob O'Reilly. No, you got it right, but D.K. beat you. That's fine. Whatever. You called him.

It's too late. On my feed, my hand was up. We ran the play. It's like we ran the play. I can't. What are we doing? Are we doing the hand raise or are we yelling? I think we just yell.

All right. Also, why did he call in me if DK was first? I don't understand. Because I was wrong. I blew it. I'm like a ref. I blow it This is going great

This is a catastrophe Richter Kai and Austin Who are listening What is the chat thing? Does the chat think Does the chat think it's better If we yell Or if we're like I'm getting shafted here

Kai likes the yelling We're gonna be talking about You just got all You got four points And Austin and Kai disagree This is unbelievable I feel like I'm picking's Getting the same foot in bounds twice

All right It's a catch Don't be a diva You got four points I have zero All right Yeah that's true Okay

Chat says yell buzz That's yes Okay you're gonna yell buzz We're gonna yell buzz Yeah, and then I'll call on you. That's perfect. Thank you. We got there.

All right, this one's from Connor. Connor. Buzz? Fuck. Craig said buzz, but he didn't say it as confidently as D.K., but Craig said it first. No, you thought too long, D.K. It's Green Day, time of your life.

No, it's good riddance. Oh, right. See, that's why I didn't know the name of the song. I was singing it, yeah. So do I get one for Green Day? You get one for Green Day and then one for, no one got the song name. Does he get negative for getting the same wrong or no?

No, it's fine. It's too much math. This one's from Nick. Nick. Nick. Buzz. Deals? Yes.

Now, can I jump in, Buzz? Yeah, he took, come together. Yes. Son of a bitch. Yeah, if I pause for too long, that's, I think that's a good call. We're working this out on the fly, this is actually literally line. Was it stupid to do this live? Yeah, I don't know why.

A hundred percent stupid. Why didn't do this live? I don't know. We didn't practice at all either. All right, this next one's from Matthew. Matthew. Buzz. Miley Cyrus.

No, what? You got to call it somewhere. You can have the song name. Yeah, D.K. In the USA. It was split that one. By the end of this, we'll figure out how we should have done it the whole time. This is actually.

That was on me. That was on me. The next one from Stephen. Steve. I declare Steven. Hit it, Richter. Let the bodies. I don't know what that is.

I feel like Alex Trebek when they got nothing. I actually hate that. That's a haunting sound. It's like, let the bodies hit the floor or something like that. It's bodies. All right, stop that, Victor. That's awful. Oh, my God.

I'm going to hear that in my nightmares tonight. All right, we'll go to easier ones. Next one. All right, this was from Jacob. Jake. Jake. Buzz. D.K.

Actually got it by most second. Beyonce single ladies Man dude That's two In my ears I'm getting it off faster I know it is This is a problem

With doing it Like remote Like the connection Next one is from Nick Nick Nicky Buzz Craig Free fall on Tom Petty

Yeah These are great These are very This is like level one Craig's eight to five Craig's winning eight to five But I mean two points per We got a lot left

Okay next one Is also from Nick had Dick had 30 them They were so Nick. Nicky. Buzz. D.K.

Not even close. Shit. Window to the wall. Nope. Not too long. Craig. I'm deducting a point. That's over two.

Did I get the name wrong? Yes. I don't know the name of the song. Oh, it's get low by little John. Get low. You're all right. All right. Next one.

I will say that was a big part of my college years. I thought you guys were going to get that. I shouldn't. I don't know the name of songs. I don't know the name of songs. the lyrics. Like, they should have just named it went out of the wall. I know. And you sing the song and then you lose the lyrics. That was a big song for me. Get low.

That makes more sense. Oh, yeah. That was, that was the, I learned Chris Rock bit on that song was everything to me. Everything was so good. Skates, skate, skates. Oh, my God. All right. Didn't love that. All right. I know. Sorry. Richter hit the next one. Yeah. Buzz. Yeah. Go.

Rage against the machine. Boom. Bowls on a parade. Yes. Bulls on parade. Hell yeah. You could have given me the whole song. That one, they were all, yeah, I was trying to mix up errors here. All right, next one's from Ethan. Ethan. Buzz?

No. It's not runaway by Kanye, is it? No. I think it's slightly different, yeah. Do it again. It rings a bell. We were joking about this before the show like with us. So I was like, what if you kind of recognize it?

It's welcome to the Black Parade by My Chemical Romance. Oh, that makes sense. See, there's a whole. whole, there's a whole window here that if you focus on a certain era of music, I'm screwed. This is like when you play Jeopardy and it's like the presidents. I'm like, I'm never, I'm not kidding any of these. Email some, Rigger Fantasy Football Gmail if you have more songs. This one's X-Rombs from Andy. Andy. Andy.

Buzz, run away, caught you. I think D.K. I think D.K. There you go. No way. I just D.K. Goh, Craig gets it. That's fine. I actually don't remember. I couldn't tell. I, that was fast. I got to stop saying the fucking band name. No, you're fine. Until he calls it to you, Craig. Sorry, sorry. This one's from Nicholas. Nick. Nick. Buzz.

Go. Gasolina. Bang. Oh, who sings that? I can't remember the band. It's Daddy Yankee. Daddy Yankee. That's right.

Fuck. D.K.'s down three, but this is getting close. D.K., we got a little... Gasolita. Next one, all right. This next one's from Ace. Ace. Buzz.

Go. Pump up the jam? Yes. Plank. Sorry, it's pretty good. Technotronic. That was good, though. You got that. People are going to be mad at me for not getting Daddy Yankee. Daddy Yankee's like the most famous person on Earth.

That's. Next one is from Connor. Con. Buzz. Buzz. Go. Eminem. Yep. And song? My name is. No. Real Slim shady. Yes. Fucking A. I keep singing.

Split. Split vote. We can still down four. All right, D.K., I'm not going to lie. The next three is where you're going to make up this. This is like your, I don't know. various swing state county, I won't mention. The next two are from Nick. These are really good. Hit it, Richter. Buzz.

Go. Splitwood back. Yes. It's got a lot. I had Craig. Go. Dreams. Yes. All right.

Split vote. Okay. Next one's from Nick again. Hit it. I hit it, Richter. Buzz. Go. Freebird by Leonard Skinner.

Yes. Craig. Nice job. Craig's an oldies guy. I am. It was Spencer Hall when they shut down the, Every Day Should Be Saturday site, wrote his story about his entire life through college football.

The entire thing was interwoven with why he likes Freebird at tailgates. And it's actually one of those amazing things I never read. I don't know that. I never got into Leonard Skinner, actually. Dude, it's actually an amazing. His point is that college football is amazing for the same reason. Freebird's an amazing song because it's like kind of embarrassing, but it's awesome.

And it's, oh, my God. Couldn't recognize higher. All right. Next one's from Chris. Chris. Chris. Buzz D.K got it.

It's Guns and Roses. Sweet child of mine. Yes. Okay. That's big for D.K. Yeah. This is a huge stretch coming up. Next one's from Ben.

Ben. Buzz. Oh, D.K. said, oh, buzz. And it was like a tie. It was me. What is the chat thing? What is the chat thing? Come on.

Give me a chance here. Come on. What is the chat thing? Who won that one? Stop the count. Craig. Chat says Craig one. Chat's like overwhelmingly says Craig one.

Spirit in the sky, Norman Greenbaum. Boom. I knew it too. That's a tough one for D.K. I won't lie. 17 to 11. This is tough. D.K., you need some good late breaking mail-in votes right here.

I'm not going to lie. You need to really like finish drunk. This next one from Gavin. Gavin. Buzz. Go. Atleans. Yes.

And it's a... Fuck. Oh, that's the easy part. I know, and I'm just blanking. I'm literally just blanking. Outcast? Yeah. Yes.

Fucking hell. I literally just like, you know how you can't come up with a name? Yeah. I'm an idiot. No, you know more music, but you have a child, which is a huge disadvantage from memory purposes. God in the ether. Oh. Next one's from Andy.

Andy. Andy. Buzz. Go. Nirvana smells like teen spirit. Boom. Okay. We're getting close here.

All right. You guys ready? Yeah. Roll up your sleeves. Buzz. Oh, D.K. Got it. DT.K. got it.

Dart me up. Yeah. I swear DK's internet connection is just a little faster than mine. My synapses just fire a little bit faster than you meet me. The sweet, sweet fiber optic. Applebee's antitizers. This is so many people submitted this one. I can't even tell you how many people submitted this one.

Hit it, Richter. Buzz. Go! Hansen Mbop. Yes, dude. That ties it. That ties it. That ties it going into the last one.

That's incredible. We only have one more? 18, 18, 18, one song left. This is unbelievable. Wow. We couldn't have planned this. This is why we do it live.

This is magic. I'm not going to lie. I kind of thought D.K. was test. 18, 18, 18, tie. 25th song. Are you guys ready? Couldn't do that in pre-game warm-ups.

All right. This next one is from Kai. Kai. Hit it, Richter. Buzz. Go. Tyler the creator? No.

I don't know. It's the Goofy Goober song from SpongeBob. Oh, is it? Wait. Damn, is that how that song starts? Are we going to leave it an 1818 tie? I thought Goofy Goober literally starts with, I'm a goofy goober.

It does, actually. I think Richter grabbed the wrong song. But it's because it's from SpongeBob. Yeah, no, I think it's okay. That's kind of crap because I would have gotten Goofy Goober and won this. You would have. Yeah, you got screwed, but it's an 18-18 in tie. It's also like, complete bullshit to that Craig that we would do.

a freaking SpongeBob thing. I've never seen SpongeBob. Every song we've done is like in the 90s or early. Have we played a single song after 2010? Plenty. Plenty. No way. We got killed here.

How we played the song to 10, 10? 2010. Yeah. Because I'm not going to lie. How many? Name them. How many? I had Travis Scott and like stuff and like recent stuff and I was like,

Dek is fucked. I was like, that's bullshit. Well, so Craig, you, the first, one of the first things I learned about you is that you love oldies. I just feel like we're supposed to just play songs. I feel like we're tailoring this to DK, but it's fine. Oh, you were up eight and you're complaining. You'll stop the count.

Get out of here. All these songs are insanely famous anyway. This will be the new tiebreaker. Hey, lock in. This is for everything. This is for everything. Lock in, take a moment, take a breath. From Danny Hyfitz.

This is from Danny Hyfitz. You guys ready? Hit it, Richter. Buzz! Buzz! Oh, did Craig Gott! Tom Tom Club, genius of love. Mariah Carey Fantasy.

Wow. Buzzer beater. For a second there, I was like, is that fantasy by Mariah Carey? That would have, I wish I actually had had the foresight to play. Craig got it.

Craig got it. That was a deflating ending there. That wasn't what we wanted. D.K., I can't believe we split 1818. That's nuts. That came down to the fucking wire. DK was behind the whole time.

That was crazy. We'll pick this up again. We'll have to do it again. This is part one. No, what we should do is we'll switch it and then we'll do like high fits versus one of us

next week. For the next three weeks, we should rotate and then make a little bracket. That's good. Oh, I'm so mad at myself for not getting outcast. I know. I thought that was the easy part. It literally just blanked. Nothing was coming to the old brain. Email us at ringer fantasy football at Gmail.com. If you have more songs like this, literally one second.

And not like a second once the thing begins. It's like got to be the beginning of the song. You can just tell. Email us at ringof fantasy football at gmail.com. If you have songs like this and send a whole thing. And we'll make a playlist to all these songs. And we'll just, we'll send it out. And it's really fun to play with your friends.

Thank you to everyone who did this with us. Thank you to everyone email the songs. They could ever watch. They could ever listen. Yeah, an email email is for your fantasy football, gmail.com. More fantasy courts. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig.

Thank you, Richter Soros out here, winning awards for his podcast. Congratulations to Rick. He's got to go to New York to win an award and then New Zealand. Shout out Kai. Shout out Carlos. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, everyone who's help with this. Jonathan?

Shout out Jonathan? And of course, thank you, Lorne. Lauren. Thank you, Outcast. Boom. Dude, Andre 3000. Incredible. I'm very upset with myself on that one.

But what can you do? One of our movie quote episodes, we gotta do semi-pro. We've got to bring that back. Yeah, I think that's a good. That's a good thing. $100,000 playing coffee black, so good. That's a good thing.

Yeah, semi-pro is a good movie. Who the fuck is Bambi? Who the fuck is Bambi? I totally actually remember him doing that, too. Kai just said Andre 3000 plays the flute now? He's played the flute in prior songs, hasn't he? He hadn't had an album, like a rap album, in like 20 years or something

and then he released an album. I think I told you guys about this. It's called New Blue Sun and the titles of this song. It's just him playing the flute and he doesn't rap. And it's, so for example, the first, the name of the first song is, I swear I really wanted to make a rap album, but this is literally the way the wind blew me this time.

And it's just a flute, 12 minutes of the flute. A real Ron Burgundy. The name of the next song is the slang word pussy rolls off the tongue with far better ease than the proper word vagina. Do you agree? A 13 minutes of the flute. Okay.

that night in Hawaii when I turned into a panther and started making these low register purring tones that I and it just dot dot dot dot 10 minutes of the flute Are you guys familiar with the latest Smokey Robinson album? Have we talked about this? No. I feel like you've said something about this before. It rings a bell. What is it?

I didn't know he was alive to be totally honest. Yeah, he's, oh, he's very much alive. And he has a new album that came out called Gasm's. Stop. No, he doesn't. He does. Smokey Robinson? Yeah, check it out. 84?

Yeah, the lyrics are incredibly sexual. Gasms. Gasms. He would be my first guest on the Deathbed podcast. Good call that. Should we get smoke? Wait, we should just do that as a bit on this show. We should just get Smokey Robinson on this show.

Yeah, dude, gasms. If anyone knows Smokey Robinson, email is to Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com. The song titles themselves aren't that explicit, but if you listen to any or read any of the lyrics, it is erotic fiction. It's crazy. The album's called gaza. All people need to stop having sex. Between De Niro and Pacino and Smokey Robinson, like, they need to chill. Maybe just don't tell us about it.

Well, he's singing about it. Yeah, keep it to yourself. Yeah. I guess is having a child not keeping it to yourself? That's a good point. Oh, man. Oh, my God. Shouts out, Smok.

Austin, Texas. He's three years older than Joe Biden and Jerry Jones. Who's Smoky? I mean, our boy, Pacino. Pacino's on a little bit of a deathbed tour right now. Pacino's out there just talking to anybody about anything. Oh, no. We should, yeah, we'll get Pacino, we'll get Smokey Robinson.

This is good. This is good. Dude, what he looks like is crazy. It just looks like someone that didn't think was dishing out gasms. All right, we're getting out of here. Goodbye, everyone. Must be 21 plus and present in select states for Kansas and affiliation with Kansas Star Casino

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