The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking the Biggest Bargains of the 2021 Season (Holiday Edition)

Episode Date: December 8, 2021

In our last Power Hour of the season, we power rank the stocking stuffers of the 2021 fantasy season, a.k.a. the players who cost very little on draft day that have paid off this year. Then we hold Fantasy Court and read listener emails. Sign up to play against us in our new FanDuel daily fantasy contest HERE! Power Hour (4:27) Listener Emails (33:58) Fantasy Court (39:36) Sign up and compete against us in the Bad QB League on FanDuel HERE!. Email us at [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It is our last power hour of 2021. Oh, boo. Boo. Boo hits. Bah humbug. Humbug indeed. Every week we power ranked something on Wednesdays during the season, and since this is our last power hour of the year, we're going out, holiday spirit. This is like Christmas morning, I don't know, is it like the ringer fantasy football show?

Christmas party? I don't know. What are we doing here, Craig? Christmas morning at the Ringer Fantasy Football Residence. Yes, come on down, folks. Sit by the tree. Come gather around the hearth. We are ranking the fantasy stocking stuffers.

These are not the giant box under the tree. These are the little ones in the stocking, and you unwrap them, and you're like, wow. They weren't on your list even. They weren't on your list. And you pull it out, and you're like, wow, this is really useful. These are the players that cost like zero, a couple bucks in your fantasy auction.

And like, guess what? You still think about them from Christmas. You're like, wow, that was the best gift I got. these players had to cost kind of around the same amount as the actual stocking stuffers that your mom puts in your stuff stocking every morning, every Christmas morning.

It's about the thought, really. By the way, how do you guys do your Christmas? We open presents on Christmas Eve, and then we do stockings on Christmas morning as like a little bonus. That's more common than I thought. Why do you open the presents on Christmas Eve? I'm always surprised by how many different traditions

there are and when to open presents. I open presents on Christmas on Christmas. Christmas morning. Yeah. For us, it was, we're all very impatient. And also, my sisters don't wake up early.

So it's just like annoying, having to get everything going in the morning. So we just did that night. Wow. Well, we're going to open these presents right now. It used to be one present,

and then we opened the rest of the next morning. But that was like a gateway drug. And then pretty soon, we were just, you know, snorting lines all the presents on Christmas Eve. So these are the, so these fantasy stocking stuffers

are the guys that we wish we could have stuffed in your stocking pre-draft. Some of them we did. Some of them we did. They were one, two dollars. They're easy. They're easy to buy. But we missed a lot of them, but fear not. We will rank them right now.

All right. Also, I was thinking, should we do Tom Tom? Or should we do like a little Christmas jingle? Will there be any more disrespect to Tom Tom Tom than not having Tom Tom for the last episode of the year? I wish there was Christmas Tom Tom, but I don't know. What do you guys think? Should we do like a little jingle? bell. I think we should do the ringer, the old

Danesey vibe. No, that goes way too hard. That'll distract. People are going to get... It's like hard Christmassy. Now, people are going to crash into the media and listen to that thing on the freeway. If you want to be a little Christmassy, Craig, I'll give you carp launch. I'll be some creative control right here. I think it might be nice. I don't know if people have grown accustomed to Tom Tom now, but a little... We can do a little Christmasy. Christmas cheer?

Okay. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do some type of Christmas bells, I think. Okay. All right. Also, holiday bells? Like, we can do all the different. tradition. True. Include everything. Holiday bells. This isn't just about Christmas. Yeah.

Hanukkah's in there. Everything. I'd like to start the power. Also, wait, are we going to drink with this or no? It's because this morning, that would be kind of weird if we were, like, drunk in the morning. We'll drink at some point this month. Don't worry. We'll do something.

Remember when we didn't know it wasn't a hot toddy? Let's drink that. Love a hot toddy. Do you? I don't feel bad for not knowing what hot toddy is. It's whiskey, lemon, honey, and water. Guys, can we start the power hour? Yeah, let's do it.

It's just alcoholic hot tea, essentially. It's great. Unlike D.K. Sisters. Let's just open the thing right now. All right, number one stop, fantasy stocking stuffer of this season, DK. Yeah. It's got to be Cordero Patterson. I mean, okay, first of all, going back to his auction budget number, zero, zero dollars coming into the season.

He was free. This was like a handout. We have, so we're going to do comparisons, like different types of stocking suburbs for each player. Our comp for Patterson is like having GameStop stock before all the meanstocks happened. It's GameStop. Who goes to GameStop anymore? It's brick and mortar. We got the internet.

Why would this stock be valuable? This is your mom who's like 10 years behind and doesn't know what's going on. So she gets you some, she knows you got your Robin Hood account. She's like, oh, here, honey, I got you $10 on GameStop. And you're like, Mom, Cordorell's 30 years old. He's not going to be good. He's a kick returner. He's a kick returner.

The running back label isn't even correct. Also, this is the most tech-savvy mom ever, getting you a Robin Hood account. Yeah, you'd think if she knew that, she wouldn't get you GameStop, but it worked out. Certainly worked out. Do you guys get stocks as stocking stuffers? No. It's a bad first example. We'll get more realistic as we go along.

The rest are really good, but this one was a stretch. Yeah, wow. Well, that's really what it. This is what we get from. moving on from Tom Tom. Yeah, it's like having early GameStop stock. That's the cop, really.

Yeah, it's a 20-year-old company that is dying that somehow made a lot of people millionaires. Is Cordero Patterson a meme stock? Like, the Falcons were just like, we're going to make this guy a thing. We're going to do this. Yeah, it's like a joke.

We're going to get on Reddit and make this a thing. They pump and dumped Cordarelle. We're still waiting for the dump. I don't know if you know what that means. We've said it many times on this. They're driving up the price of Cordarell. And then they're going to sell it. And then they're going to bail on it.

Yeah. A lot of fantasy advice in this one so far. What do you think? This is what we get for disrespecting Tom, Tom. And now we're going to move on. Who are we disrespecting now? Number two. Stocking stuffer this year, Craig.

Okay, it's James Connor, who was $2 on average in auction draft to start this year. James Connor is the version of a $2 scratch-off ticket that your mom puts in your stocking, which my mom does every year. She gets my brother and I scratch-offs or lottery tickets of some sort. That's great. Yeah. That's a good stocking stuff.

The most I've ever won is probably $20. But the James Connor one has, I don't know, what does it yielded? 100 X? He was $2. He's now the RB7 on the year, which is unbelievable. Paid $500 for a $2 scratch or whatever you want to say. This guy, man, signs a one-year, $1 million deal, essentially a cast-off,

surrounded by all these other sexy guys, Chase Edmins, Kyler Murray, Rondell Moore, plus DeAndre, who's awesome. And now James Connor has 14 touchdowns. He's an unrestricted free agent next year. And has probably been other than Cordarell, the single biggest darling of fantasy football, right? 14 touchdowns.

I mean, we knew that he was going to get a lot of the red zone work and that was sort of like part of the equation, but obviously $2 auction budget value. No one knew this was coming. James Connor delivered on what we thought Kenyon Drake was going to do for the Cardinals in 2019, sorry, in 2020. And then James Connor came in,

we all ignored it. and then he was exactly what we thought when Keny Drake was a third rounder. That's some arbitrage for you. Can I read you guys a quick player A, player B scenario? I'll go quick, and I know these are always hard to follow, but I'll try and be as clear as possible. Player A through 13 games, this is a player through 13 games.

Around 200 carries, 900 yards, 12 touchdowns, all right? 500 yards, 500 yards, and 13 touchdowns. So that's 1,400 yards and 13 touchdowns through 12, through 13 games. 1400 yards, 13 touchdowns. The next guy, player B, through 12 games, 1,200 yards, seven touchdowns. Player A is James Connor in his first year as a starter on the Pittsburgh Steelers, and player B is Najee Harris this year.

Wow. James Connor is lapping Najee Harris in his first year as a stealer compared to Najee's first year. That's crazy. Justice for James Connor. Yeah, but that's an unfair comparison. That offense was really good when he took over for Levi-on-Bell. I guess. I don't know. It was all right. Wasn't the offensive line quite a bit better?

The entire team, Ben was still fine. You just came for Naji. It's Christmas morning, correct? Why are you just coming for Naja Harris? Anyway, we're, we're going to- I'm not really trying to slander Naji. He's trying to hype. No, you're accidentally slandering Naji. Just trying to hype James. You don't even going to put anyone down.

All right, we've already disrespected Tom, Tom, this is out of control. We're going on here. Number three stocking stuffer. Honestly, this should probably be number one. It's Debo Samuel. Yeah. Debo Samuel, honestly, I already am upset with our own power rankings. He should probably be number one.

He was four bucks, four-ish bucks, depending if you wanted to get him in fantasy this year. I think Debo Samuel's kind of like the car keys in the stocking stuffer. It's this little box and you sit in the stocking, so you don't think it's going to be anything big and you open it and it's a set of keys. You're like, holy shit, you got me a car. And you come outside and you get the bow and everything and you're in this happy Nissan commercial.

You're like, come for the Toyotathon or whatever the hell is going on. That's Debo. that's never happened in real life, by the way. Firstly, you know that if you actually want to do that, the bill was like $500. It happened to, didn't that just happen to Robert Kraft? Didn't somebody do that for him?

Okay, but not billion. We're thinking about billionaires. This doesn't happen in real life. Yeah, but like the point being, Debo, you just got the second best receiver in fantasy and you might have gotten him 80th, 90th pick or so. We all just assumed that, like, Brandon Ayuk would be the guy.

Yeah. You thought that big present would be under the tree. Nope. It's in the stocking. They got you. It was hurt for much of 2020, or at least a big chunk of it. And so I think he kind of fell off of everybody's radars. And then, yeah, there was shiny new objects that were excited about, you know, Brandon Ayuk, namely.

But also there's Kittle. The car keys is a great comp. You get the little box. You're like, oh, great. What is it an ornament? Open it up. It's a fucking Ford, F-150. Why are you saying this like it's ever happened?

My mom did this for my brother. Stop, did she? His first car. Yeah, the keys. Yeah. Did she wrap a bow around the car? No, no, the bow in the car. No, absolutely not.

I love that. The bow is 500 bucks? Yeah, they charge you for the bow. They charge you for the idyllic experience. That's a James Connor scratch ticket right there. How they get you. Wow. Man.

Okay, well, yeah, Debo, great pick. Love it. Who's the, I'm trying to think of who the bow is in this scenario. Five seconds to figure out who a bow is as a player. Trent Sherfield. Trent Sherfield. Trent Sherfield. Bowel.

No, the bow is Jimmy G. You don't need it, but I guess it's necessary for the gift to work. It's pretty. It doesn't really do anything. It's pretty. Or add much. Okay. Number four stocking stuff for this fantasy season, it's Leonard Farnett, man.

He was like, it wasn't free, but he was like a couple bucks. You could have got him maybe outside the top 100, depending on the time of the year. Lenny Frenette's like getting crocs. It was like crocs were everywhere for a while. And then got, like, they were not cool, but they were everywhere. For obvious reasons. Yeah. They went away for a little bit.

Justin Bieber got some crocs. and guess what, Crocs are back, baby. And, like, that's Lenny for an eight. It was a top five pick. It was cool. And then it was very bad. And the team was awful. They released him.

Went away for a little bit. Tom Brady picks him back up. Lenny is back, baby. He's like a top six running back. You want to know why Crocs have a little strap on the back? No. So they stay on during sex. What just happened?

That was an awesome. That was the coolest thing DKs ever said. I stole that. It's a tweet. One of the all-time tweets. You guys are too young and naive to understand what that means. You calling us virgins, D.K. D.K. is like, I have a child.

I literally proved that I'm not a virgin. Are you calling us virgin? I mean, not directly. Crocs is such, I just looked it up. Crocs were invented in 2002. Man, staying power. Wow, that person was very perseverant. Lenny was so, I think they were probably all hyped when it came out.

Oh, Lenny's going to be the best. It doesn't work out. at the bottom of the bottom, and now they're back. Justin Bieber. Wasn't there another shoes you were saying? Craig, didn't you,

were you saying there's another pair of shoes that was also like Crocs that was like he was there and was back? There's a walking, a walking shoe that's relatively new called Hokas.

And my parents got them like three or four years ago and I was like, what the hell are these? And they're like, they're called Hokas. Apparently they're great for walking. And I was like,

nerds. And now literally everyone in Los Angeles is constantly wearing Hokas on their walks. Because of your parents? That's us. We had Fournet years ago. We had Lenny jokes and he went away.

And then here he is. Look at his top. Never wrong just early. All right. Number five. Fantasy stocking stuffer, Craig. Jaylen Wattle, man. Jalen Waddle is quietly the wide receiver 14 on the season.

He went for three bucks in auction drafts. $3. So the stocking stuffer that I'm giving him is just kind of like when you get, when you're stuffing your parent stockings are, If you're a coffee drinker, there's stuff and yours. You get nice coffee beans. You're kind of just used to grabbing your shitty Starbucks. And then you get some Stump Town and you're like, wow, this is pretty nice, actually.

I guess I'm an adult now. I'm happy about coffee beans. And then it's just the only thing you care about every morning. You just go to bed thinking about Stump Town coffee. And Jalen Waddle, man, he's there for you every single game. You cannot live without him. I think that's the dependency. It's the, you know what?

I actually like, this is the only thing that actually gets me out of bed. And like Jalen Waddle has just been, I mean, just. quiet. I feel like he was the forgotten guy of all these rookie receivers. There was Jamar Chase and DeVanty Smith and even like Elijah Moore was like a cooler

fantasy sleeper. And then Waddle was out here. Basically just, I mean, how close is he to like setting the rookie catch record? Oh, that's a good question.

Right now he is tied for second in the NFL and catches second. That's why PPR's dumb. With Keenan Allen. Tyree Kill. That's why PPR's stupid. But also I, that's coffee.

If there's nothing else, like if you're in a PPR league and you've got Waddle, like it's the only thing count on your coffee, he'll be there for you. He has a waddle dance, too, which is cool. Also, we were talked about this.

You know, it's Jalen Waddell, right? Like, it's not pronounced Waddle. It's Waddle. Is that right? Yeah, I'm never going to, I'm never going to say it that way, I don't think. His family and his sister just literally just gave up at the end of his high school career.

I'm trying to get people to correct it. So they called Jalen Wadle his stage name, but it is, in fact, Wadell. But, you know, much like your new bougie artisan coffee bean brand, like, he's just, he's a fantasy regular now. He's a part of your day. Every morning, you want Jalen Wattle in your lineup.

And there's like a lot of pride in it. Like it's like a two-way relationship in your head. I mean, not in real life. Ooh, I drafted Jalen Wado. Ooh, I drink. Blue Stone. Yeah, blue stone. Okay.

Number six fantasy stocking stuffer. Dude, it's the Patriots defense, man. The Patriots defense is like a gift card. You get in the stocking stuffer. You get the gift card and you're like, hmm, didn't put a ton of thought into this. It's not very exciting. And then six weeks later, you're at Target with your $50, gift card. You're like, I am so glad

that I have this right now. Get some really sweet like shower curtain with that for free. Yes. They're the number one fantasy defense. They have had six, entering the Monday night game, the windy debacle on Monday night. The Patriots had six straight

double digit games as a defense. Six straight double digit games. And that includes like eviscerating the Falcons with like 28 points or whatever the hell they got. It's like play with an extra player. It's such a massive advantage. it's weird man the weirdest secret truth of fantasy is that defenses secretly matter like a lot down the stretch yeah it's so true and like there was that year the like a couple years ago when the pat like before the brady's last season new england collapsed the first half of that season the Patriots defense was like a top six player period yeah that was the weird they had the best point differential in a hundred years it was like the Columbus blue jackets were the other like 1920 it was crazy and like patsy hasn't been as good this year but like they probably got you to the playoffs. I know I have a team that they just dragged me.

The Pets D. Just dragged me the playoffs because I'm outscoring every week. And it's like they also have the Jaguars in week 17. Like Bill Belichick against Urban Meyer and rookie Trevor Lawrence in week 17. There's a world where the Patriots just win your fantasy championship. God. It's a nice $50 gift card. You get yourself a hydro flask. Get yourself a lot of stuff.

It's boring, but it's like, you know what? It's the best thing. It's like, you know, sometimes you don't have to think outside the box. Just do the thing that's always worked. I remember the Chicago Bears defense, close to 10 years ago at this point. My buddy drafted the team with the Bears. Pretty much forgot. He was like the first year playing fantasy.

He forgot about his team and he made the playoffs because Chicago's D got on like 20 points every single week. Yeah. All right. Number seven fantasy stocking stuff for this year, D.K. All right. It's Marquise Brown. Yeah. Auction value prior to the season was about three bucks.

We're comping Markis Brown to a candle. It's just something that you get in your stocking, and you're like, okay, you open it up, it smells good or whatever. That's cool. And you put it on a shelf, and you forget that it's there for two years. And all of a sudden, you know, you're more refined a few years later. You're a little more sophisticated. Maybe you have a house.

You turn 26, 27 years old. You're like, huh, a candle. You know what this room could use? We're doing some entertaining? Yeah. A candle. Smells good. People come in and take all that smells good.

It gets the stale cores light smell. out of the room. It's nice. Like Marquise Brown is that candle that you found on your shelf from two years ago and all of a sudden

this is the most useful thing and it makes you seem so cool. It makes you seem so sophisticated in cosmopolitan. I don't even know what it is. He's a wide receiver 11 this year. That's crazy. In points per game, I should say.

PPR, you mean? Oh, PPR as well. Yes. In PPR, he's 11, wide receiver 11. He's a wide receiver 1, which, I mean, I definitely would not have thought

this. I'd basically given up hope for this guy coming into the season. I thought he was going to be one of those guys that has like two 20 point games

and then the rest of the time it's like three catches for 14 yards. But he's been incredibly consistent. He's actually been one of the more consistent receivers in the game

like full stop. And I think the big thing that we really didn't see coming or at least it was a little far-fetched is the Ravens' offense changed. Like they become much more pass-heavy. They pass at a higher rate.

They grew up. They became candle guys. Yeah. they got a little more cosmopolitan. You know, they started entertaining a little. Is that anything? Had parties. I don't know. I don't really have candles, to be honest.

You just got a growing up to do. They're a fire danger. Things associate with cosmopolitan lifestyles like candles. Candles. Am I misunderstanding what people use candles for? Maybe I am. I don't know. I think so.

Okay. Number eight fantasy stocking stuff for Craig. It's Mike Williams, man. Mike Williams went for three bucks in auction drafts. A nice little $3 stocking stuff for Mike Williams. You know who Mike Williams is? He's fucking Legos. He's one of those fancy sets too, like you build the Millennium Falcon.

It costs like 60 bucks. Because then your kid plays with it for a day or two, and then he sits in the closet for the next entire year, untouched, much like the charges in Mike Williams after the first month of the season. Oh, my God. And then every once in a while, the dad is cleaning out the closet and he finds it, and he pulls it out. And he goes, oh.

son, let's build this one more time. That's been the last two weeks of Mike Williams. That's a little nostalgia play for Herbert and Staley. Yeah, like the middle part of the season is really just where all the Lego pieces are out and you step on them and it pisses you off. Yep. He's in your roster, he's in your lineup and it just makes you mad.

But now, hey, Keenan's on the COVID list, who knows if he'll play, are Lego's making another run as the holiday season comes around. Maybe, man. Maybe because people are in the, they're in their houses, they got to do stuff. Like families are together. You got to figure out things that will pass the time.

Build a freaking millennium Falcon. But yeah, there's nothing quite like a child's obsession with a toy for 24 hours and then it's complete object permanence the next day. It's like it never even existed. That's really how the first month of fantasy was with Mike Williams. He was the wide receiver one.

Since then, he's the wide receiver 22, 23. Now he's a normal guy. But man, those Legos they hit. I was those a Playmobile guy, and I never got the Lego obsession. Building seemed hard. Oh, I liked Legos. I've gotten my nephew who's 10 Legos every year for his birthday 10 times. Are they all just stuffed in the closet? Would you rather step on a Lego piece every day for the rest of the year, Craig, or have Mike Williams give like, you have to live with the up and down of Mike Williams?

If I step on the Lego piece, is Michael Williams put up like 20 a game? Yes. I'd take that. Just checking. Would you rather feel real pain or emotional pain? emotional pain is real pain DK oh that's fair um all right that was got really deep wow got a little serious there for a second sorry holy cow guys back to the scheduled programming number nine fantasy stocking stuffer don't think about it

all right number nine Dachson Knox tight end for the Buffalo Bills you know who Dossonox is in the pantheon of stocking stuffers an ice scraper you may ask where did I get that I've literally gotten an ice scraper in my stocking before because it's useful.

It's, I mean, it's just straight up useful. You get it and you're like, wow, this is a piece of plastic that's shaped in a way that can scrape ice off your car. I do know what an ice graper is. Not super exciting. However, you go, you put it out in your car and then you forget about it for however long it is. And then you go out there and you're in a rush.

You need to get going. You don't have time to start your car and wait for 20 minutes for the windows of frost. You got to get out there. is Dawson Knox. He's a guy that, you know, we got excited about him coming out of the draft. He's athletic. I know that you hate that, but he is. So he's a third round pick, even though he didn't score any

touchdowns in college. And he kind of just, you know, he sat in the car in the back seat for two years, not really doing anything. All of a sudden, he's here. The bills need him. I mean, not last night so much, because he did drop like five passes and completely ruin my

fantasy dreams. However, on the year, he's been pretty darn good, tight end 10 on the season. I don't think he was on anyone's writer. He was $0 in fantasy auctions coming into the season. He's just pick him up after the draft is over. Well, he had to go to a vision coach

because he was dropping so many passes and I guess it worked. Last night it was very tough for him. I mean, it was windy. But Knox makes sense for the ice cream for though, and I love it though because it's like, you're like, oh yeah, yeah, wait on tight end, wait on tight end, that's fine.

And then you get to the season, you're like, I got to deal with that. I got to get this ice off my windshield. I need a very real problem. Yeah. Dawson Knox just, you know what, I don't have to deal with this problem anymore. What an analogy.

Do you think Dossan Aux would be thrilled to hear that he is compared to an ice scraper? I mean, I hope so. You fixed a problem that would appear in my life at an unspecified date. You're making it safe for me to be on the roads. Thanks, Dawson. Number 10 fantasy stuff you suffer. Craig. Elijah Moore.

$1. I equate Elijah Moore to a cooking utensil that you get. before you really get into cooking in your life, like you're like, oh, dad, a meat thermometer. Thanks. That's nice. Digital meat thermometer. Yes.

It sits in a cabinet for a year and a half or in fantasy land, you know, about nine weeks. And then the pandemic hits and you start cooking a bit more and you're like, shit, this is, I wish I could tell when the chicken's done. Yeah, I keep overdoing this pork. Oh, wait. Porkloin. It's rubber. You jam this thing into it, 165, chicken's done.

That's been Elijah Moore, man. He's the meat thermometer, and you're now a 24-7 cook. Elijah Moore has been the wide receiver four in the last six weeks. He's been fantastic. So, look, we're chefs now, and we're Elijah Moore fans now. Yeah, you get into like suvite, and you're like, hey, the suvied prime rib is like just perfect now. Look how it's perfectly medium rare.

Exactly. I unfortunately threw away the meat thermometer like an idiot. I dropped Elijah Moore. So did I. I did not have the patience I went through spring cleaning I was like you know what I don't need this This is a big reveal

You guys both dropped Elijah Moore So every week you were touting to add him Was that like you guys like trying to get over The trauma of letting him go Like pick him back up Yeah it's like desperately trying to get that I dropped him like week five maybe I was like you guys both said to add him for weeks and weeks

And I'm now realizing this was basically To make up for losses in your own personal lives It was yeah I was trying to heal the emotional pain Is that really what this whole podcast is about Hyphitz? I mean, yeah, probably, isn't it? Our dads were like, just be patient, you'll use it. And I'm like, no, I'm not going to dad meat thermometer.

Just taking a space. By the time you use it, the batteries are dead. Yeah. But boy, to be honest. Great meat thermometer issue in my house because we had two that were different. We didn't know which one was calibrated, right? So we needed a third. And then that was a whole issue.

Zero mute thermometers are actually accurate. It's like it's always sunny. I love meat thermometers, man. I use them all the time now. All right. Number 11, fantasy stocking center. stocking stuffer. It's Hunter Renfro.

Hunter Renfro is socks. I don't think we need to explain it anymore. Just a nice pair of socks. You needed this. Marina wool. Maybe for hiking, smart wool. Yeah. You will use this.

You will need it. It is the least exciting thing you'll ever get and you'll use it. He doesn't get eight yards, doesn't really get touchdowns, somehow has more cash. than Stefan Diggs or Travis Kelsey. So it's like he, in full PBR, he's got double-digit points for Hunter Renfro in 10 of 12 weeks, which like socks, you use them almost every day. That's Hunter Redfro.

I feel like stocking stuff. Like your stocking is your lifetime supply of socks. Do you ever buy socks outside of that context getting them in your stocking? I don't think I ever in my life went out to buy socks. more than, I think, one time. But now that Amazon exists, I actually order things I didn't use to go shop for, like socks. I honestly, if I was a billionaire,

I would never wear the same pair of socks clothes. Oh, like how Floyd Mayweather and people, like, don't wear the same pair of underwear? I hate when socks get worn down and they get really thin and they kind of rub when you wear them. I actually splurge on socks. I love like stance. Sox are the best.

I recommend stance. They're pricey, but they're good. I recommend staid. this podcast, bombas. Oh yeah, bombas are actually really good too, but I think stance a league of their own.

What are the other one of the wooden floor? Stances and hocus? Yeah, if you toss on a pair at Stance socks and some hocus, you're walking across town. It's like walking on a pillow. So it's Hunter Renfro and Leonard Fournette. That's what we're talking about.

Nothing has been more accurate than Hunter Renfro's socks. He's like socks in human form. Watch and play. Like, wow, look at those socks go. What a great gift. Okay. Number 12 fantasy stocking stuff.

for Elijah Mitchell. Elijah Mitchell to me because you didn't draft him, right? You had him at him and free agency and if you have fab for a lot of money. Elijah Mitchell's the gift that cost $5, but you had to pay $50 for shipping. Expedite it.

You were late for a Christmas gift shopping, so you had to expedite shipping. Two-day express shipping costs 50 bucks. This is the really, really explicitly, like, a specific t-shirt that you need for your friend because it's hilarious and only they'll get it. It's on Etsy. but you need to get it overnighted.

$5 shirt, $50. But you're looking at the shipping costs. You feel like an idiot, but it says, look, if you want it to arrive by Christmas, like you should have draft Elijah Mitchell. It's like, well, you need it by Christmas time. And now he's like, what, one of the top 10 backs going into the playoffs?

That's the thing. You feel dumb in the moment, but then six months later, they're like, hey, still wearing that Elijah Mitchell t-shirt or whatever. But it's like Elijah Mitchell seems like, now he's in concussion protocol. I don't want to jinx it.

We'll see if he can play this week. When he's been healthy, he's been completely worth all the money. Like the 49ers schedule down the stretch is so good. Now he's in concussion protocol. So we'll see if he even plays. I feel like to Michael Hastie's the only healthy running back the Niners have. But like the Niners fantasy playoff schedule is so juicy for like these massive fantasy performances

that if Elijah Mitchell pays, that shipping was worth it. This t-shirt, you guys are going to get, big laugh out of this t-shirt. To lifelong friendship. Global shipping costs, everything's more expensive these days, you know. Yeah, it's like the ship

that got caught in the Suez Canal plugged everything up for the forever. That's really contributing to like the fact that you had to bid $94 on Elijah Mitchell after week one. I got to say, more often than not, I think it's worth it to just spend all your

fat money in the first five weeks on somebody that you make it at all. Yeah. I hate finishing a year with like $40 in the tank and I'm like, well, seems like a waste. Yeah. Spend the money early.

He is averaging 15.1 points per game in PPR. Like, that is solid. Like, running back two right there. All right. Last fantasy stocking stuffer, number 13, DK. Kicker Nick Fulk, who is, I'll be honest with you, I don't play in a lot of kicker leagues. If you're the expert on kickers. However, I am aware that Nick Fulke is like lapping the fucking field in the kicker position. Nick Fulk, in my opinion, his stocking stuffer,

like value is batteries. You get some batteries in there. Maybe you're young and you need batteries to power the toys you got on Christmas. Maybe you're old and batteries are just like helpful to have to power things. Maybe the fact that we are you know, in a pandemic and everything you do

is at home and you need like battery powered this, that and the other thing. I don't know. Batteries are helpful and Nick is like that. Nick Fulk is like that. You know, I'm never going to get excited about a pack of batteries. You do not think about batteries and then you need batteries and you're like, shit, I need batteries. Yeah, listen, you're in a windstorm on Monday night, all the power's out and you need a 40-yard field goal. You got Nick Fulk.

Dude, I just want to shout at Nick Fulk, though. First of all, he's had like over 20 points, I think two or three times this season, which is kind of amazing. He leads the NFL and field goals, leads the NFL and field goal attempts. And part of that is because the Patriots have another buy yet. I believe he's the only kicker that actually has double digit, like fantasy points per game. He's at like 11. I don't think any other kickers even at 10.

So if you have Nick Folk, I think that the, first is it folk or folk? Like Folks. I'd say folk. Like folk music. Did you know that Nick Folk is the number 40 overall player in fantasy football? Dude, the people have Nick Folk are like obsessive. 40? 40?

No, 4-0. Holy shit. He scored 147 points. That's more than Jamar Chase. him. That's more than Mike Evans? He's more than Jamon Chase? No, that can't be right. Is that right? He's played according to what I'm looking at.

Nick Fulke is ahead of Jimar Chase. It could be not. It might not. It's not. No, no, no. It's not right. Oh, that would have been way more fun. Damn it. Well, I guess it depends. Jamar Chase is at 170 and a half PPR. Nick Fulke's at 147. Okay. That makes more sense, but it's decidedly less. Why is

this not updated? Whatever. Sorry. Oh, I was looking at standard. I was looking in standard. 147. He has more points than D.K. Metcalf? Aaron Jones, DJ Moore, Nick Chub, Terry McLoren. He has more points than Nick Chub. Well, Nick Chub got hurt. I think D.K. Metcalf is the really indign... I know. It's still funny. Same with DJ Moore. Yeah. See, Nick Foke.

Falk. Love good batteries. I like how Hyphitz calls it Nick Foke. I don't know. I keep going back in for us. I like... I love Hyphins. Yeah, you do say Abdullah. Abdulla. It's Abdullah, I guess. Yeah. It's fine.

I like it. I can't pronounce things. I'm sorry. All right. Guys, that was power hour for 2021. That was fun. I really don't know how helpful it was to anybody,

but I enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to stocking stuffers now a lot. I'm going to get you to some stocking stuffers this year. I already have an ice scraper. So just putting that out there. Damn.

You get DK batteries. Unless you can find one at like sharper image that is like the blade is like heated or something and cool. I got bad news. I don't know if there were sharper images anymore. Damn it. I don't think those exist.

D.K., you're the dad. No one actually goes to these things. That's what I was going to say. You're the mom who gets their kid a gift card to GameStop. To the store that doesn't exist anymore. Hey, go to the blockbuster. You should get Calvin a gift card to GameStop.

See what he does. All right. Let's get there some emails here. This is from Ethan. In honor of you guys ending Power Hour this week. Oh, sorry, yeah, Ethan. Ethan. Ethan.

In honor of you guys ending Power Hour this week, I went back and Power Ranked the top reasons that you disrespected Tom Tom, Tom Glove. Which of which, were many, I'm sure. Here's my top seven going, I'm going in reverse order for dramatic effect, so the least insulting the most.

Seven is D.K. struggles with Dynasty Brain. That's a thing. That's a lot. Number six is the taunting rules and pounties just suck. Oh, so that was me ranting. Yeah.

That was you ranting. Number five was DK drafted on July 4th and it went horribly. I'm sensing a theme here. This is me just, DK. DK. Togatim Club. Egregiously.

Every week. You're kicked out of Tom, Tom, Until further notice. All right. Didn't Tom Tom used to be like the direction thing, the direction thing in your car? Oh, is that right?

What? Wouldn't that a thing? Tom Tom. Like the directions in your car. I don't know what that is. Maybe this is not my generation. Point being that instead of TomTom Dick is like MapQuest. Okay.

You're right, though. Hi Fitz. Number five. Number five is in terms of when we disrespect to Tom Club. We disrespected it when Derek Henry's nickname was El Tractercito, which was literally the first time TomTom Club was ever used and was immediately disrespected. By the way, he had, Ethan has two number fives on here, so there's actually eight. He couldn't decide. We also have Craig can do, we also have Craig saying he can do a better job than the NFL's independent neurologist.

I think that this is true. This is factual. Yeah. Especially since Elijah Mitchell went back into this 49ers game this week, and that's why he's in concussion protocol. I knew he had a concussion. a second after he got hit. Yeah, it was pretty clear. It's, I almost want,

I don't, you know what, let's not wait into this, but yeah, Craig Brockman could do a better job. Number three, I disrespected Tom Top Club twice when Jason Garrett was fired, but he says,

Hyfitz was up front about this one and warned us that he would have incoming disrespect and go over the time limit. And number two is then I did it again in the same episode when Jason Gary was fired. I actually went back for seconds at the end of the episode, and then disrespected him again.

So I took up eight minutes, and what was supposed to be two. And the number one was, the disrespect was when we said this is the end of the Seahawks era and we just waited in to the D.K. Metcalfe Foresome story.

But dare I say the ultimate disrespect was this week when we didn't even have Tom Tom on the show. We just did. Jinkle bells. I think,

I feel like Tom Tom Tom Club would understand though. Yeah. Tom Tom Club is in the holiday spirit. Yeah. Okay. Another email from Dan. Dan.

who self-described Mike Davis radical from Liverpool, England. Wow. There are literally dozens of us. Dozens. Was that Nevernude? Is that what I was talking about? Yeah, Tobias Fumeke. There are dozens of us.

Dan writes that I wanted to share with you my top tip for a stress-free Sunday. I'm in several leagues, and every week I only look at my own lineups. Yeah. I love this. I don't look at any of my opponent lineups, so I have no idea who I'm going against on Sunday. It's just why you're rooting for all your guys to do well. Just go for it. Dan says this makes Sunday so much better and you can still celebrate all your own players making big plays,

but you can also still enjoy your opponent's players making plays because you don't know, they're on your opponent's team, you don't know they're counting against you, and their plays aren't tinged with sadness when one of them does something incredible. I still follow the overall score in my matchups, so I know how I'm doing. It just means you don't end up hating individual players or plays. for scoring points against you. And then once the games are over on Sunday,

I checked to see who the other guy had, who had inevitably screwed me over, et cetera, and then says, going into Monday night, I know what I need from that game to win. I've done this for years, and it makes fantasy so much more enjoyable. Highly recommend it, interested to hear your thoughts.

And P.S., please don't fight. It's like listening to mom and dad fighting. Are we supposed to keep eating? What? I love this. This is like a life hack for actually enjoying doing fantasy football.

How do you do this, though? So does that mean you can't look at your score the whole day? Yeah, just don't look at it. You just look at your roster. Just watch football. Yeah, I guess you can just look

at your roster, not the matchup. I actually legitimately do this. Most of the time I don't know who I'm going against because I find that it makes it like a hellish experience. It's literally impossible to keep track for, I think for the more normal people. But like if you're talking about like my favorite, like my top tier leagues or whatever,

the ones that I really care about the most are that I'm doing the best in. I don't want to know. You don't look at who you don't know that you're going against two more chase in that league or whatever. I don't think

I have the self-restraint to do this. I have one piece of self-offer. I don't check any of my scores till half-time at the first quarter at all ever.

Sorry, half-time of the first quarter. Half-time of the first quarter. Immediately. No, I don't do it till half-time of the one o'clock games. Yeah.

Because like, if you check him in the first quarter, I'm like, you know, the teams probably had like one drive sometimes. Like, it's kind of, you can drive yourself nuts.

Oh, yeah. Also, it's like very depressing for a lot of play. Like the Jalen Hertz effect where it's like, oh, God, he has two points. It's mid-third quarter. This is kind of going to lose. I kind of want to do this. I want to try this of like don't know anyone you're going against.

They just have a great time. Let's all try it this week and report back. I'm intrigued by this. But it's kind of like right down to like Plato. Like is ignorance bliss or not? Like that's right? Absolutely. It's pretty incredible.

It is pretty miserable watching your opponent's player running a touchdown. That is a horrible feeling. We're going to do this get back. All right. Thank you for that idea, Dan, from Liverpool. All right. Let's get to fantasy court. All right.

It's a big case. We have a couple of big cases on the docket, gentlemen. Get your robe hats on. Get your Christmas hats off, your robe hats on. It's from Kristen. Kristen. I have a fantasy court question. This week is the last week of the regular season in our league.

This coming week or the previous week? This coming week. Okay. My husband is a lock for a top two seed and will get a first round by. I am very on the bubble. We are playing each other this week. Now, I respect the game too much to do a collusion. I love the way.

That's, that was what I was laughing about. She writes to do a collusion with like, I respect the game too much to do a collusion. Do a collusion. That's in caps. Do a collusion. Don't do a collusion. I respect the game to do too. too much to do a collusion.

However, oh, here it is. Here we go. He has the Patriots defense and Patriots kicker. Batteries.

Batteries. And a gift card. And the gift card. The Patriots are on a buy this week. And he has a defense and kicker on a buy. So this game, functionally, does not matter for him.

He gets a buy in the playoffs, whether he wins or loses this week. So for him, the rational thing to do is leave the kicker in defense on a buy rather than drop them or drop other people on his bench to pick up a streamer. However, if he leaves people in a buy, it will look like we did a collusion, even though he's acting in his own self-interest. My question for the fantasy court is, is my husband justified in keeping his Patriots players in this week? Okay, so I actually, my thought on this is what needs to happen is her husband

needs to act in good faith. And what I mean by that is, he actually still has a decision to make because it is okay to not start certain players if you want X team to make the playoffs or not if they're perhaps an easier matchup for you. He's going to have a buy, right?

So if he wants his wife's team to make the playoffs because they're not that good, then yeah, sit your players. I think that's totally fine. Well, I think what you just said is not doctrine. I don't know if Deve and Deacon except, yeah, you can just bench your players. Did we actually agree on this before?

because I feel like that this was something that in the past, we're going to have to dig into like the archives here. We have a later court case that will adjust that specifically. Oh, you guys don't agree about that? Like you tank as a one seed to like kind of figure out who you can play in the playoffs. I feel like we've had this before. Right. I feel like we've had this before.

I can't remember what we decided. It's not true. 100%'s true. I think what Craig is saying though is as long as he is acting in his own self-interest here, not his wife's interest. It's not collusion. If in his head, benching this players makes the most sense for his team and his playoff run, it's fine.

I think here's the deal. I think this is fine. I really don't think there's a big deal here because he's locked into the one or two seed. If I'm him and take the wife element

out of this, I don't want to drop a player that's done really well all year for me so I can play some rando in a game that is meaningless to me. So I think that you can,

I think that like ethically, morally, like according to the rules. I think it just depends on the bubble teams. Which bubble teams is this guy want in?

Craig, with all due respect, Justice Craig over here is Justice Horlebeck is completely galaxy branding this. He's jumping to like the seating. Yeah, the seating. That's completely off. I think DK's completely on the point here, which is why should he have to cut players to add them for a game that doesn't matter? He doesn't need to win when you'd rather just have the players you're going to cut. So the question becomes, who do you have to cut to have this fake kicker and fake defense? So I looked at his roster with the court has requested discovery.

Oh, wow. And then in discovery process, we have. the players he'd have to cut. His team is, so the context is he used to have Derek Henry, now he's scrambling at running back. So his team is just a bunch of like running back prayers. Which consists of, he basically,

so there's only five bench bots in this league, which I think is very relevant. So he basically... So it's a short bench. Yeah, so he's got the Patsdie and Nick Foke. Assuming he doesn't want to cut those two, just to cut someone else, he'd have to cut Michael Carter,

who's on injured reserve, but could come back. Kobe Myers, who's on by, he might have to cut Ramandre Stevenson, or he might have to cut Donchell Hilliard or Amir Abdullah. I don't want to cut anybody. I don't want to cut any of those guys. Cutting one of those players to add a kicker for a game that you do not need to win, and that the kicker that you will cut probably for one of your players again the next week

is ridiculous. And so I think that this is, I get the appearances that this could look like collusion, but in reality, there is zero reason he should have to cut a player if he's already earned a buy. And it just happens. You know what? This is,

to me, this is a tantamount. Is that a word? This is tantamount to, like, the case where you're going into Monday night and you're up by two points. Yeah,

and you sit a guy because you're afraid he's going to fumble and lose you points, right? Right. And that's, according to our rules, I think that's fine, isn't it?

Of course. So I think this is fine. I think the biggest problem who is it, Kristen, is going to have here is just explaining it to the league and we can't help you there.

I think this is perfectly fine. I think she sends the podcast link to the league and he's like these guys who don't like and subscribe. Five stars. Everyone in the league. Plus them here is better subscribe. And also if you email us at ringerfinacy football at gmail.com, we can be bribed into like changing our minds.

Listen, I agree. You guys are both right. I'm just saying as long as he's, this is justified as long as he's acting in good faith. And my layer, which is like inception, 10 layers deep, I still think it's valid. Like if he wants to beat his wife,

because he doesn't want her to make the playoffs, then yeah, do whatever you want. But we're going to, we're, we have another case coming up the docket that it's going to be like, yeah, the next case.

You know, I'm actually, I mean, I guess the husband v. wife thing is the problem here. That's the name of this court case, husband v. wife.

Husband. But, no, I feel like, do a collusion versus the people. Do a collusion. I think that this is not a collusion and they're not doing a collusion. I don't think this is even that strong of a case.

Like, I guess maybe because it's husband versus wife that everyone's up in arms, but like, This happens all the time. Yeah. All right. So the official verdict is no collusion.

No. Yeah. Another fantasy court case. Hi guys. Hope you're having a splendid day and buckle up. This is from Will. Yes, it's from Will. Will says,

Buckle up. Billie. Will, a guy in my league will call him Dave. Needed a win to make the playoffs. His opponent this week, let's call him Joe, already clinched the playoffs. So because of this, Dave,

who needed the win, offered Jalen Waddle to Joe in exchange, for benching his starters. Joe said yes, because he already a playoff spot and he's like, I'll take a channel bottle for free.

So Joe said yes, pulled all the starters, put them on his bench right before the one o'clock window. Someone, nobody noticed until after the game started, and Dave won and clinched the playoffs. Without this trade,

Dave would have lost and missed the playoffs. All of us, except Dave, Joe, and one other person think this should not be allowed. Who's that third guy? He's an hundred percent of libertarian. I guarantee you that guy's a libertarian. How do you guys feel about this?

And if you think this is against the rules, what should the punishment be? Yes, this is against the rules. This is clearly collusion. It's like very clearly. Well, no, no, this is not collusion, though, because again, I think what's interesting about this? I think you need to look up collusion,

like the definition of collusion, because this is it. No, because, well, no, I think that this is somewhere in the middle. Like, again, I think the classic definition of collusion, as we always talk about it, is like something outside fantasy, influencing fantasy. Like buying a 30 rack of beers for you to trade me like your best player, that's collusion because that's outside the league. What I think is interesting about this case. No, well, that's not the definition of collusion, but that's okay. Continue.

Bad faith. This is bad faith. No, it's not bad faith. What's interesting about this is it is good faith. It is 100% in the interest of both people. Like if this guy has a playoff spot clinched, can't get a buy but isn't going to miss the playoffs. It is one who cares if he wins or not this week. He gets Jalen Wallow's teams better. And this other guy is like, well, I need to win this week like to make the playoffs.

It is in his interest to give away Jailen Waddle. So I think that what's interesting is like we need something outside like both guys are maximizing their championship possibilities by doing this and it's within the bounds of fantasy football. I think you are way fucking off. obviously it's in the best interest of the two of them. They're colluding together.

If the CIA and Leah Harvey Oswald collude to kill John F. Kennedy, it's fucking collusion. That was an assassination, Mr. I just did the rewatchables for JFK. Well, I'm just saying two people colluding to do something because it's in both of their best interest. That doesn't mean it's not collusion. No, no, I know. I'm just saying that like basically, but to me, I guess my question here is...

This is cheating. Yeah, this is clear collusion. No, but Mike, but I'm just saying, Craig was just saying earlier. about like empty lineup spots. I've never even thought about this, but like, can you transact line-up decisions? The answer is no. No. No.

You want me to read the definition of collusion according to Wikipedia? Collusion is a deceitful agreement or secret cooperation between two or more parties to limit open competition by deceiving, misleading, or defrauding or defrauding others of their legal right. This is like textbook collusion.

Super unfair. What I'm saying is like you can bench your own players if you want a one bubble team to make it in a different bubble team to not. If you do that on your own, I think that's totally fine. But if you're working with another team, no. Also, in the case that we just listened to, heard, he's doing that because he doesn't want to drop his own players.

Like, that has nothing to do with his wife. He's not colluding with her. It's a personal interest of good faith. I don't think this trade should be allowed, but I don't like either of your arguments. Like, I don't think that actually gets that. I think the general point is like, I think, no, I think the simple thing is, like, you can't transact line up decisions. That's it.

Like, you can't trade that. But like, to me, I actually think the answer is no because no one knew that was a thing and you can't invent a new type of transaction in the middle of the year. And I would be like, if you really want to make this a thing, you can put it up as like a rule change in the middle like the next off season and discuss it.

But like, they already have the rule. No collusion. But like, I guess here's my question. No cheating is the rule. But so I'm just curious where this goes because I just see holes here. To be clear. I want to be clear about something.

Forget that Jalen Waddle was traded. Craig would be okay. Who are the lobbyists that are paying you to, like, defend this guy? This is John Huyves is Johnny Cochran right now. He's like, the glove doesn't fit. No, but Craig would be okay with this person benching all their players if he wanted this guy to make the playoffs over somebody else. That's okay with you, Greg. Yes.

Why? Okay, D.K., is that okay with you if someone, forget Jail and Waddle was traded? Could you bench all your players so that this person makes the playoffs and someone else does? Is that okay with you, D.K. You're acting alone, unlike Lee Harvey Oswell. See, D.K.K.'s thinking. I want to know. I think that I personally disagree with Craig on that, but I think this is a completely

different case. Like, the facts are different. He traded somebody in order to do this. No, no, I'm not talking about this case right now. I think it's, like, forget Jalen Waddle was traded. Can you bench all of your players so that the person you're playing makes the playoffs and the other person does not? If you were commissioner and someone did that in your league and it's like, the lineups haven't set yet,

would you tell them you have to play your players? Yeah, I don't like that. Craig, I disagree with you on that one. But to me, this is like a completely different question. This one is, but we also have a lot of people dealing with something like this. So I'm interested in... I personally as a commissioner would be like, look, you have to play at least a somewhat optimal lineup. And the gray area there is they don't have to drop people to make a full lineup.

But they have to start an actual lineup. Yeah, you know, okay, so thinking about it, I guess I would say that in the Kristen case, I don't mind, if you have people on buy and you don't want to drop people, and by starting players on buy and netting zero in a couple slots, that then helps you because maybe you don't actually want to win this lineup. I'm okay with that. But if you're benching your entire lineup, maybe that's not okay. Like, you should have to play players on your lineup.

I feel like that sort of like is, it ruins the point of the game. However, I don't have a problem with you starting guys on by or maybe worse players. You have to roster a lineup and play a lineup But if you want to decrease your chances Much like NBA teams do They sat Steph Curry for the last month This season so they could draft Clay Thompson Like I actually don't mind doing that

As long as you're rostering a lineup But again, yeah, back to this These are two parties involved Who are working together to gain advantage And to defraud the rest of the rest of the league I think that we Here's why I went down this hole I think we all agree

that you should not be able to trade a player in exchange for like you give me a win. But I think that that's where we did come out there is that a question is that you do have to field a lineup every week. Yeah. And that the exception is basically

the gray area of the previous case where unless you've basically clinched a buy into a playoff spot and it doesn't make any sense for you to cut those players. That's basically the only exception for why you should not be fielding the lineup. That's basically where we've arrived.

Yeah. It is a gray area, though. You're right. The leagues that I am a commissioner in, we have rules where you can't do that. So I think that's something to keep in mind for next year for everyone who's like thinking about this right now. So, D.K., let's say I'm the two-seeing. Making an explicit rule. I'm the two-seat going into the playoffs and I'm playing the guy who might be the five-seat, right, who I would play in round one? If I didn't want to play him and I'd rather play this different guy where if he wins he's in, would you be okay with me? I'm not benching anybody, but I'm starting all the worst players. on my lineup to try to lose.

To me, what's the difference? Is that okay with you, DK or no? I think that, again, there's some gray areas here. It depends on the league, because, for instance, like in a lot of dynasty leagues, you have, like, 30-plus person rosters where you could literally start. Let's just say typical standard leagues.

I think it's fine. I think if you start, as long as you're not, like, emptying your lineup. What if you're benching Austin Eckler? What if you're benching Jonathan Taylor for, like, I don't know, you have... For Naim Hines. Yeah.

I mean, yeah. I think that's fine. I think it's... It's fine. Being crafty. Yeah. I just want to find the line of where there would be some

kind of executive over intervention. That's all. Okay. All right. Interesting. Okay. I feel like we got really off topic here because this last thing was clear collusion. I just want to reiterate that.

But I think that there's probably a lot of people dealing with this problem. I know I have this thing this week. I have a very similar thing in a league where basically a guy who is competing for a play of spot against me and I can kind of decide the fate of my league. And I think that's crazy. I basically decided to play. playoff spot my league based on whether I fill out my lineup with the same thing. I have a defense that I can cut and like should I play a defense in a kicker this week? And if I do that,

this guy will probably make the playoffs. I think it's, I don't know. The two teams in the race, like if you think one is way better than the other, I don't think it's that crazy to try and rig it so they win or they lose. You just said rigged. Craig's cool with rigging. I love that the word rig at the end just came out there. All right, it's fine. It's cheating back in. Okay. Bring in the dancing lobsters. Okay. Kristen is a... Kristen's husband can not have it by,

but then this other Jalen Waddle she has to be undone. Super cheating, yeah, and that second one. Super cheating. Okay. Fun fact. We got one from John.

So John writes on Monday's show, the three of you guys were discussing the phrase getting down to brass tax, not T-A-X, it's T-A-C-S. The etymology is unclear of the phrase, but the first attributed use

that the phrase comes from Texas. One theory is that it comes from brass tax in the counter of hardware store that they used to measure cloth and precise units. Another possibility is in the 19th century American practice of using brass tacks

to spell out the initials of the deceased on top of their coffins. So let's get down to brass tax. Okay. There's another theory that brass tacks are put on gun stocks in the American West. That's what comes from.

Either way, get down to brass tax, get down to what's important. I just want to throw that at you guys. Interesting. I like it. Yeah, thanks, John. Thank you for that fact. John.

Oh, we forgot to shout to John. John. One fantasy parent corner to add. I got this tweet on Twitter. Craig, you're going to really enjoy this one. From Jerry. Jerry. Sorry.

Sorry, it took me a sign. You guys. I think the hard eggnog is like really hitting right now. You guys are getting a little sleepy. I'm really hot in my beanie. Starting to overheat. All right. From Jerry.

He says, I tell my two-year-old son, it's nap time or bedtime or time to get in the car, etc., etc., he tells me it isn't. He tells me it's actually showdown time. I guess he is always listening. Stop. I have a fan. Wait.

Should I get him a $5. Etsy T-shirt that's a showdown time on it? Ship it for $50 shipping, yeah. Oh, my God. Wow. That is, that's amazing. I think I'm very happy for power to go on that. that's excellent

and I wonder if people are wondering why we're ending it's just you know we're entering fantasy playoffs we want to keep the content good you know we don't want to stretch it

power hour is special it's special it's regular season it's time for us to bullshit in other words we got to sober up for the playoffs

no no it's playoff time it's time to get down to brass tax that's right oh hi fits god damn it thank you thank you Craig

thank you whoever came up with power hour out there Just really thank you. Really appreciate it. Legend. Thank you over to email those. Emails at Ringerfantasy Football at gmail.com.

Thank you everyone for listening. I hope you have a happy holidays. Like we'll be talking to you before then, but like this was a happy theme. Hope you have a good happy holidays. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Lauren.

Thank you, Beastie Boys. Ooh. D.K. said, fuck your holiday season. Oh, Brass Monkey. Thought you were going to go Christmas-y, but no, you went. Oh, yeah, sorry. You went to Beastie Boys.

Yeah. Did your generation listen to Beastie Boys? Yeah. listen to Beastie Boys growing up? I, no, honestly, not when I was growing up. I don't know if that's a generational thing.

It's huge in my generation. Yeah, I think that it was more you than Ben was big when Craig and I were growing up that's kind of gone away's Green Day. Green Day was huge when we were kids. You know, the else was really big was the Red Hot Chili Peppers. They've kind of been around for a while, but they were really big when I was in, like, middle school.

Yeah, they were huge. Daney, California was everywhere. But the difference is, I think red hot chili peppers have a staying power in Green Day's just been like erased. Good riddance was the end to like every, Every grade that I graduated, like Good Riddens was like the end of the PowerPoint. You know, the hyphids, I think it's back. I think American Idiot is now a Broadway play.

Really? Yeah. It's Billy Joe Armstrong in it? Is that his name? I don't know about that. But yeah, I could be wrong. Play. Let me look at it up really quick.

Yeah, American Idiot the musical. But that was a long time ago. It's not new at all. No, it's not about Green Day. American Idiot is sung through rock musical, based on a 2004 concept album of the same name by punk rock band Green Day.

It's like about George Bush. I thought that's what the album was in reference to. But anyway, it was a Broadway play. Maybe I need to Google this to make sure. You know it's a good Green Day song that'll wrap this all up? Holiday!

That was the number one song on my iTunes by plays, Holiday. Goodbye, Goodbye, everyone.