The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking the Biggest Week 1 Overreactions

Episode Date: September 14, 2022

We recap a thrilling Seahawks victory over the Broncos, before power ranking the most over-reactionary fantasy football takes that we kind-of-sort-of agree with after Week 1. We finish the show by reading a few listener emails and holding Fantasy Court. Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Join the fun and follow the ringers Philly special now on Spotify. Your fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hypatts. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Quirlebeck. And today it is power hour. Every week we are power ranking something. Every Wednesday during the season. And this week we are power ranking our biggest overreactions after week one.

But first, we got to talk Seahawks, Broncos, Monday at football. DK. DK. What a game. What a game. That was actually pretty fun, I got to admit. Yeah, what was it like? You just watched the Seahawks beat Russell Wilson.

It's funny because there was some, there was like some Seahawks football transference onto the Broncos, I think. Like, because I have a friend that's a big time Broncos fan, and he was texting me during the game. He's like, I don't know how to feel. I can't tell if I'm happy or if I want to die. Like, what is this? And I was like, welcome to the experience.

This is what we normally feel like. Now, me as a Seahawks fan with zero expectations, I was able to just like sit back and enjoy that game. It was actually really fun. And you have a new favorite. coach in the NFL and Nate Hackett. Dude, I have no, I feel like I was incredibly, incredibly confused. I'm glad I wasn't the only one that was very confused that the way that they handled the last

part of that game and trying to kick a 64-yard field goal. I was just like, what's happening? What are they doing? And it turns out everybody thought that. In retrospect, we'll give them the generosity that they were trying to run down the clock on purpose, right? And they were like, well, we're going to run a place. So the Seahawks did not call time out with, I guess, their plan being,

we'll make the 64-yard field goal with very little time left and win. But in the moment, it just looked like they were going to go for it on fourth and five, wasted 39 seconds and called the timeout anyway. And so in the moment, it was almost like it was, I was so busy being like, this is the worst clock management I've ever seen that it took me a minute to be like,

oh, they were going to do the 64-yard field goal the whole time. I was just so confused by all. of it. But overall, like, how do you think Russ played? I mean, he played fine. He was actually pretty good. It was like pretty much typical Russell Wilson, I thought. Like, he didn't really look any different. Like, all the talking points that we talked about over the off season was pretty much the same. Like, he didn't really throw over the middle of field. You know, he was peppering on the outside, a couple of big plays. To me, the big thing, and the concern I had was, it seemed like every single snap they were rushing to get the playoff.

Like, I don't know what the deal was there. Maybe it was just like communication issues with who's getting the play call in. I don't know what it was. But a couple of the two flubs at the goal line where they fumbled two times at the goal line, the Broncos did, were both related to the fact it felt like they were trying to hurry up and get the snap off because the play clock was running down. And I saw someone posted a stat. There was like a whole bunch of plays where they either, like the vast majority of the plays

that they ran in the game. were like either one or two seconds left on the play clock. So after an entire off season of talking about tempo, tempo, you know, let Russ cook, all this crap. Like it was the same old Russell Wilson and even worse, maybe, because they were letting the play clock run down to like one second almost every play. So weird to cook because the crowd was so loud. And if anyone's going to understand that, hey,

the crowd's going to affect our communication, it should be Russell Wilson who played there for 10 years. And like if you wanted to do tempo, you'd think that, like, I love watching the Manning cast because it's a little discombod. kind of like our show, but every now and then you learn like something great. And Peyton was just so confused of like Peyton's point was you should be getting the play calls in earlier. Yeah.

Because the like people are screaming. They watch the play. They grab down. They grab a beer. They like whatever. Like people aren't screaming for you got to rest. People start screaming. The volume picks up closer to the snap.

Yes. Payton's whole point was the earlier the play call, the easier it is to communicate. And the fact that Russell Wilson was waiting so long. get the play and was bizarre. So yeah, it's like, I'm not going to blame Russell Wilson for two goal line fumbles. Like there's a world where those, those Melvin Gordon, Javent, they'll score, and they win by 14, and we're having a totally different conversation. But you're right, DK. The fumbles are bad, but the runs were stuffed largely because the defensive line was getting such insane. I mean, when you push the center back at the goal line by two yards, that's like

the equivalent of like, it's like, I mean, it feels like 30. Two yards is not supposed to happen at the goal line. That's because there was no time left, and the defense can just go when Russ does the snap, right? There's no mystery. Overall, though, I think you're right, DK. I think the analysis that we've had and most people have had on this was spot on. It was Russell Wilson, exactly like how the Seahawks had been for 10 years, or really the last five, but with like better players around him. Yeah. Honestly, and like you mentioned like this could have been a different game.

This could have been a very different game if other things had gone well for the Seahawks too. Like Seahawks dropped two interceptions. Like one of them went directly on. off of Jamal Adams' face. And then the second one, I think quandary digs dropped a interception in the back of the end zone. So, like, this is the type of thing that can go both ways in any game. I thought the Seahawks played better than I was expecting, to be totally honest. I was not expecting them to win.

I told my dad before the game, I'm like, I think it'll be a close. It's going to be a slog as most Seahawk games are. But they'll end up losing. So it was a pleasant surprise to see them pull it out. I thought Gino Smith played better than I was expecting. You look pretty sharp, honestly. So I don't know. Yeah. Well, more importantly, D.K., what were your thoughts on the avalanche of sub-tweets coming from every former Seahawk across social media?

This was the best part. Like, basically, it was like the whole Ron Burgundy News Team Assemble thing with like all the Russell Wilson haters came to Seattle for this game. It was like Marshaun Lynch, Doug Baldwin, Richard Sherman. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if Golden Tate was like hiding somewhere in the stadium or, you know, like watching from the roof or whatever. Like, there are so many ex-players that, like, seemingly, no, they do. They hate Russell Wilson. It's just so funny. Doug Baldwin hates Russell Wilson? Dude, did you see his tweet?

Yes. Why does Doug Baldwin, I saw the tweet. Why does Doug Baldwin hate Russell Wilson? Dude, it's like a decade of history. Have you heard Russell Wilson? I knew why the defense hated him, and I knew Doug Baldwin and Sherman were for. It could be boiled down to Russell Wilson takes credit for everything, I think. There's probably a lot of personality quirks.

and many other things involved with that. Money, I'm sure, is probably part of it. I also think for somebody who claims to be, you know, a big of a teammate as he is and team focus as he is, he is also one of the most self-centered, egomaniac quarterback. Did you see him at the start of the game with his eyes closed and his headphones on,

with his arms wide open, spinning at center field with cameras taking photos of him right behind him? Yeah, he's a team player. Do you want to ask again why Doug Baldwin, hates Russell Wilson? Like, I know that it sounds like sour grapes coming from a Seahawks fan,

but like, this is like, Russell Wilson's always been this kind of like weird guy. So it's just now less like he's not our weird guy anymore, so now we can kind of let it fly. Do you think you have the same relationship

with him as like, like when Tom Brady left the Pats, Bill rooted for Tom Brady in the Super Bowl? If Denver made the Super Bowl and they were against whoever, the bucks even, would you root for Russell Wilson or would you root for the opposing team?

not Brady because there's too much history there. Whatever, the Packers. Yeah, Packers. That's a good one. I don't think, I don't know. I don't think I would like be rooting against him. No. I don't know if I'd be rooting for him either, though.

I think that's maybe the distinction. You're getting booed. You're not a representative. Do you harbor hatred in your heart? I feel like you don't really. No, I don't like hate him. I think it's funny to, like, literally I think it's funny to see Broncos fans now getting the experience.

Like, that's like, the, the, The Seahawks' weirdness of like every single game is just absolutely weird. It's like almost, it's going to be transferred onto the Broncos. Now I can feel it. We'll talk about this a lot, but I will just say that the weirdness I think was encapsulated by how often Russell Wilson insisted on rolling out to his left. Yeah. Basically to like prove that he could slash to prove, you know, I could have played pro baseball.

And like I can turn around and throw to first like on Maddie Machado. And like they did it so much. I was like, your purpose. making it difficult for yourself because you believe you can do it. And I'm like, that's the whole thing with Russ. Like just trying like the degree of difficulty like your Simone Biles. And I'm like, but you don't have to do things that hard.

And also it sounds like Pete Carroll wanted to force him left. He was quoted to saying when he moves left, it's hard for him. And it was effective for us tonight. So he clearly knew that. He's a righty. That's how it works to go the other. Like, anyone knows this.

All right. We're going to talk about this all season. But it was a very entertaining game. Also, I don't know how we didn't mention that I got off the fourth down. think quick, but I will say the advanced stats predicting the future, very difficult. However, the rough, rough percentages of a 64-yard field goal are about 4.5% and the rough odds of getting a fourth and five is actually 45% give or take. This is when analytics are fucking stupid. It's like you don't need any of that. Like watch the game and you can tell what you should do.

You have a Hall of Fame quarterback or a kicker kicking a 64-yard field goal. Like this is easy. Yeah, it's the age old, what does the opposing fan base want you to do? Yes, you don't need advanced analytics. Like, it's fucking obvious. It's also just like incredibly, incredibly ironic that they traded all this stuff for him, paid him $200, whatever, $30 million, and then they refused to put the ball in his hands in the clutch situation. What else was funny was that, you know what the easiest thing for Russell Wilson the whole night

was, getting five yards? Every fucking completion, the first half, they were averaging 10, yards of play. Every run was going for at least six yards and every throw was going for six yards. So the irony of it, the whole thing is wild. All right. We're going to talk about the Broncos a lot, but we had to, we had to get that in. But let's get to Power Hour. Yeah. Again, Power Hour. Super simple. We're all every week, we're ranking stuff. This week, we're ranking our biggest overreactions from week one. To be clear, these aren't just like overreactions. These are overreactions. We have that we kind of might believe. We're not saying like, this is definitely how it is. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah.

It's things we're feeling. Correct. It's the perfect intersection of overreactionary, but also things I maybe kind of sort of believe. We're not saying go take action on this advice. We're saying we're feeling these things and we'll talk them out. And I have power ranked them based on how overreactionary and how much I maybe sort of kind of believe them. Yeah.

So, D.K., Craig and I, we all made lists. The three of us made list. D.K. and I sent our lists to Craig. Craig has then power ranked them. So that's the order we're going through. Craig's going to take us through the order. and we're going to do this power hour style. So everyone's going to take two minutes.

After two minutes, you'll hear this sound from Tom Tom Club. And after that sound, in theory, we will move on. You know in Step Brothers, when they come back from Mary Steenberg and the mom talking about the Brennan has a man vagina thing, and they're like, Ice, Ice Baby, it's a great song. It really is. That's how I feel every time the TomTom Club plays, it's a great song.

It really is. This is really is. All right. Take us home. Craig. Okay. Power ranking, number one biggest overreaction we've had after week one. What if Kyle Pitts is just Jared Cook

with better PR? Who fucking wrote that? Craig. Call him his own number. God damn it, Craig. Listen, I have him in one of my big leagues this year and I'm already ready to be disappointed. Again, he had two catches for 19 yards, all right?

The Seahawks had three different tight ends that scored more fantasy points than Kyle Pitts did last night. That's tough. That's a really tough one. say it like that. Like, I get that Kyle Pitts is, you know, a supreme talent, one of the best prospects of all time. But, like, is the situation just going to suck?

I mean, he had Matt Ryan last year, and he still had six games with less than 35 yards. Travis Kelsey has had nine games with less than 35 yards in the last four years. My fear is, is that, like, as good as Kyle Pitts is, like, what if the situation's just not that good? And he's talented, but it's just not going to be there. This is the most classic expectations versus hype thing. It's just, it's like, this isn't Kyle Pitts's fault.

It's our fault. We're like, oh, best tight end prospect ever. And then it's like, I mean, how old is he? Is he still 22 years old? He's 21. I think he's 21. Yeah. No, Kyle Pitt, yeah, he's 21.

He turns 22 in October and we're like, where is the production, Kyle? It's like, whose fault is that? And by the way, it usually takes tight ends like four years to like emerge in the NFL. Oh, and the college breakout age is so important. But in the NFL, I guess it's not. Okay. Kyle Pitts has been able to walk into a bar and legally purchase a Bud Light for 11 months.

And we're like, God damn it, man. Be the third best tight end in football already. Here's the deal. The underlying metrics were still really, really strong for Kyle Pitts. So I'm not like... They keep saying that. I'm not panicking. Dude, he had a thousand yards last year.

Like, calm down. He's going to be okay. He ran... In one touchdown. He ran routes on 84% of his snaps. Yeah. Tied for the team high with seven targets. Yeah, that's the team high.

None of these things are worth fantasy points, D.K. Well, obviously, since he scored like two fantasy points, I'm just saying, like, utilization is important. He had 93 air yards, which was third among all tight ends. I think his A dot was like the second highest of all tight ends. He's going to get the big plays. My fear, my true fear here is not that he's Jared Cook. It's that he's like Mike Williams, where some days he puts up 30 points and some days he's

invisible. All right. So he's Mike Williams with better PR. All right. Tom Tom, Tom Club. Great song. Greg, it really is. All right, next one here.

This comes from our man, Danny Hafeitz. What if Trey Lance sucks? Hyfitz, take it away. I mean, look, we knew he might suck in real life, but our point was even if he sucks in real life, he's going to be good in fantasy. Man, Tray Lance was awful in real life. I didn't fantasy.

Like, that was bad. Like, he had nine fantasy points. And, like, here's the thing. Like, we're bummed. Like, we touted him all off-season, and he was terrible for everyone to listen to us in week one. nine fantasy points. Like, this is an overreaction.

Like, literally there was a monsoon. Like, nobody could have been successful in that. And again. Three inches of standing water on the field. The rain, there was, standing water, it was like, if that was like your yard, you'd be concerned. Like, for like a drainage pump. They need a sump pump out there.

Again, they did. They had to add graphics to the field for the yardages because the paint washed away. Who could do well on that? It's like a very meta game for like this day. of the earth right now, I feel like. Yes. Having said that, if Trey Lance is bad again in week two, I will be beside myself.

I will walk into the sea. Yeah, so they're playing Seattle next week, and we haven't come out with our rankings yet, fantasyfibble.com. You can check out our rankings in the next few days. But if you're a Trey Lance manager in fantasy, do you still, and let's say you took our advice and you also drafted at Kirk Cousins.

How do you feel about Trey Lance versus a kind of a middle-the-road high floor guy like a Kirk Cousins this week. I mean, that's personal preference. The Vikings are playing the Eagles. Like, Kirk is fine. I'm playing Trey Lance again. I'm doing it. Again, I'm going with the rain.

Because here's the thing, the things we were thinking about were there. He had 13 carries for 54 yards. Like, a third of the Niners designed runs were for Trey Lance. Like, that's what we wanted, right? And like, he did have great throws. The interior of their offensive line is bad, like straight up. That's not great for, you know, his pocket presence. he looked like someone who was in high school 15 games ago.

That's a little concerning. Like, I wish he, they hope they watched tape. But I'm playing him again. But if he sucks again, I'm going to be very upset. And I don't know what I'll do. All right. So he's just Tim Tebow with better PR. Got it.

God-Daler. No, the opposite. Tim Tebow played more in college that Trey Lance has in his life. Now, I'm saying in the way that he's, like, what if he's just really bad at throwing and they just run him a lot, you know? Well, we don't, we cannot make that judgment based on this game. It was a monsoon. I'm not making the judgment. It's an overreaction.

It's just my feeling is fear. Okay. Next one here. Both of you put this, so I had to put it third. Alvin Camara is washed is what Danny Kelly put. And hyphids put, Alvin Camara equals milk was a bad choice. Who wants to take this? D.K.

One of my very important leagues, I have Alvin Camara, and I chose him in the second round. And I'm just like, man, that was stupid. Well, after one game, yeah, it looks. really, really bad. Here's the deal. He played 38 out of 61 snaps. Of course, he's never really been a super high snap player in his career, but he only ran 19 routes on 40 dropbacks. He was into block way more. I think he stayed into block 11 times. His previous career high was seven, which may be a function of like they want to be a more deep pass team. Like, this is James Winston offense now. Like, he likes to push the ball down field. Jarvis fucking Landry was like

one of the deepest receivers in the NFL this week. Like Jarvis Landry was. So maybe this is like a completely different offense that doesn't really fit Kamara's like skill set or at least it's not great for him in fantasy. He did get vultured by Taysam Hill. I feel like this is going to be a common occurrence. He carried the ball nine times, caught three passes. Yeah, 12 touches for 46 yards. I think that it was, it's always a combo of like Kamara's always been touchdown dependent. Drew Brees was checked down king.

Jamie says not check down king. And he probably has lost a third of a step from his peak, if not a half. And all that, again, he had a rib injury in this game. So, you know, that's important. That probably contributes a lot. Again, yeah, as D.K. said, Tason Hill vultured him. It will get better. Like, it will get better for Camara, but it is hard not to wonder, man, passing in him for, like, some of the running backs and, like, that look like they're in better situations.

Javante in Denver, Leonard Fernette in Tampa Bay. And I'm like, man, I'm not saying it's not going to, you know, he'll be disappointing. But I am saying, I'm really worried he's. bear it's going to be disappointing. I mean, the Saints were in catch-up mode the entire game, and he had four targets. That is slightly alarming. That's the fear. Because James is, yeah, it's a phrase. It's just a plus yolo ball, man.

Like, he's not checking it down to running backs. I think we underrated that. Next one here. This comes from me. What if you should just, what if you should just sell the Packers while you still can? Well, which? All of them? All of them.

Like, like who? So, I mean, no. I think is the answer. her across the board because Rogers who's going to take Aaron Rogers after this week and then Alan Lazzard like is hurt you can't but I look at the running backs and I'm like

AJ Dylan like the only thing the promise that I think will be kept is the idea that Aaron Jones and Aegee Dylan will both have 50 catches I know Aegee Dylan was better this week than Aaron Jones but like man he wasn't only better I mean he he out touched him significantly my point my overreaction is like

what if the Packers are just going to be mediocre this year and everybody on this offense isn't going to be that great? Like, what if Aaron Jones is a, like, a glorified Remandre Stevenson this year? And none of the Packers receivers are good. And Aaron Rogers is way worse because Devante Adams is gone. Everyone's pointing out last year's blowout to the same as reason for not being concerned. But, like, they still put up seven points against the Vikings and they look like shit. And you know who's on that team last year? Devante Adams. Yeah, I agree with you. So in this sense, what, everyone, like, it was weird because everyone had the same reaction we did. Everyone had the same thing. Like, oh, you.

yeah, it was bad, but you know, they got blown out last year. It's like, okay. They were missing their left tackle, both tackles and a guard. It doesn't make it okay. Exactly. It doesn't make it okay. But I agree. I think the Packers might just, what if they're just awful?

They're playing the Bears this week, so that's what's kind of nice is it's like, if they lose to the Bears the year after Aaron Rogers, like I own you, panic time immediately. But I actually think A.J. Dylan and Aaron Jones are going to be great. Like, I think that they're just, they will really have to get. an insane amount of receiving volume every game. So that part I actually like. I just think A.J. Dillon and Aaron Jones might be kind of more in the, like where we rank them, we probably rank them 20 spots apart.

My fear is that they're actually more both kind of in the middle and that Aaron Jones is going to end up being disappointing for the year. And A.J. Don't is going to be the only guy that actually kind of pays off dividends this year for the Packers. I would see if there's a world Aaron Jones has four touchdowns this week. Probably will. Well, yeah, maybe. Does you put my hot take about A.J. Dylan in the list or no.

because I had an AJ Dillon take. No, I didn't, but you should tack that on right now. Just really quick. AJ Dylan, my overreaction was that AJ Dylan is going to outscore Aaron Jones. AJ Dylan out-touched Aaron Jones 15 to 8. He had 91 yards to Aaron Jones' 76. He had six targets to Aaron Jones as five targets, which is really the big one that we got to talk about.

He out-targeted him. 17.6, half-p.R points to 9.1 for Aaron Jones. Jones did average 9.5 yards of touch. So I think the Packers, if I'm being realistic, I think the Packers know they need to get Aaron Jones more involved. So Locke and Rees, I'm also hosting the NFL show on the ringer NFL show feed this week from Friday's, proving the weekend.

And Solic and Rees gave this whole spiel and how running backs really will be on the field at the same time. More often, Kareem Hunt, there's a reason Kareem Hunt caught two touchdowns. Like he was basically playing fullback for Cleveland last week in various things. And A.J. Dillon and Aaron Jones had the same thing going. on. So I think that in the earlier part of the season will definitely be a thing. We're like both running backs around at the same time and AJ Dylan will be the beneficiary of that.

But we can get into that later. All right. AJ Dylan, shockingly nimble for how big he is. Oh yeah. Okay, next one. This is courtesy of D.K. Here, Cadarius Tony is this year's Brandon Iyuk. Yes.

So, as you all remember last year, we hyped up Brandon Iuke coming into the season. I don't exactly remember where we had him ranked, but like we, we, were pretty high on him. We were excited about it. He had a really strong finish to the 2020 season. And then he had zero points in week one. Like he barely played. He was in the doghouse immediately for Kyle Shanahan because of basically the word on the street or whatever. Like what we heard afterwards was he didn't put in the type of work that Kyle Shanhan had expected. There was some like issues with being in the pandemic. They didn't have a real offseason when he was a rookie. And so he didn't prepare the way he was supposed to.

and he took to the hard coaching and he ended up being really, really good for the 49ers in the second half of last year. Cadarious Tony, I don't know if he's personality-wise, very similar to Brandon Ayyuk, but I think he's so good that the story arc is going to be similar. I think he's going to end up learning, like basically the reason he didn't play barely in week one, Brian Daibald is saying he has to earn his spot. Sounds like he maybe doesn't know the playbook as well as he should. He needs to get like basically, you know, a shot in the arm. He needs to get his act together. He played seven snaps. He could airs Tony this week.

He got two touches. And he had one end around where he looked incredible. He made like nine guys miss and got like 15 yards. Because you know why? It's because the Titans were so shocked that he got the ball. They're like, this guy doesn't even have the playbook. Who is this guy? Yeah.

I think it's going to be a combination of he does marginally improve as a like in preparation. And they just fucking need him to be in there. Like honestly. I will admit this. I, you know, by the Josh standards. a Giants fan. I don't love Cadarious Tony. I don't see him as a guy that sticks on this team long term. But I'll admit that they're so down bad for playmakers that I can, if he's, if he is able to stay healthy, it would be nice if he actually could be on the field for more than seven snaps. Yes.

So, D.K., you are, you are underreacting to his performance, essentially. Oh, yeah, that's such a good point. I guess, yeah. Maybe it's just me overreaching. Maybe he's just a knucklehead and he's never going to get on the field. Who knows? What's an overreaction? Yeah, maybe you're numb to the pain. What's the reaction? You're like, oh, this guy that everyone loved had seven snaps. And you're like, actually, he's going to be great. Yeah, you're underreacting to the overreaction, which I like. That's a nice thing.

Ziggs while everyone's axed. You're ahead of the curve. All right. Next one here, courtesy of Hafeitz. Giovante Williams is just a top five running back. Man. He looked great last night. Hyfitz was anti-Javante in the off season.

We all were. Yeah, I think that. Hefis was the most, though. I was. And I think that I just didn't feel as strongly as other people that Giovante Williams was going to separate himself from Melvin Gordon as much as everyone wanted

and that for better or worse, Melvin Gordon was going to be annoying veteran skills that people wanted and that this was going to be much more even than people thought. Now having said that, we weren't like significantly lower in our ranking of Javante than anywhere else. We kind of had him where everyone else did,

which is like early 20s. If you need a running back around like, you know, late in the second, you should take Javante Williams. That's pretty much where we had them. We just weren't as like over the top bullish on him. I was not buying the thing where he's this year's Jonathan Taylor. And I'll say this after watching when I football. Fuck.

I think he's like this year's Jonathan Taylor. Maybe he is. He looked incredible. Giovante Williams had 12 targets. Like he had 11 catches for 60. 11 catches. He's a running back. 11 catches for 65 yards.

I don't know if I could ever remember Russell Wilson feeding a running back with 11 catches. I should look that up. If Javant didn't fumble at the goal line, then he would have, let's say he scores. He would have had eight more points to the six of the score, two for the fumble getting back. That makes him a top four running back behind like Sequan and like Jonathan Taylor. And we're having a complete different conversation. If you can like acquire Javante Williams, like for example, I am really wondering, I think I would just trade Cameras straight up for Javante Williams.

I regret not having him. I'm sure there will be more frustrating moments down the line where Melvin Gourne vultures touchdowns. But man, Chavante looks incredible. With that said, I'm very much prepared for Melvin Gordon to get 18 touches next week.

Melvin Gordon did out carry him. He out carried him. But to receive it, dude, he had 11 touches. So running back! That's not going to happen every week, but I do think, in retrospect, I can see why this would be the case.

Like, if teams are basically saying the best way for Russell Wilson to beat us, the easiest way for Russell Wilson, listen to beat us is by throwing it over our heads. Therefore, we're going to keep everything in front, make him dump off, and then just hustle and tackle. That's like... Yeah, I mean, he didn't throw his receivers for the first half of the game.

Exactly. It was all tight ends and running backs. So in retrospect, maybe it does make a little bit of sense that he would, like, dump it off a lot because teams are basically playing cloud coverage over the top, putting, as as Soliclights to say, like, putting a lid on the... Or putting a roof on the house.

And maybe that means there's just going to be more of that this year than we've seen in the past. So it's interesting. I definitely wouldn't expect like 11 catches every game, but more than we expect it probably. Okay. Next one here. This is mine. The Patriots are the worst fantasy football team in the league. Oh, that's a bad take. I thought you should have said of the decade. Keep fucking lean into it. When you said of the, I was like, do it. Do it. Give me century. Give me century. Give me the century. The last billion seconds.

I mean, the running back snaps were a disaster. It was basically a perfect three-way split between Damien Harris, Ramandre Stevenson, and Ty Montgomery. This is our worst fears. Pretty much all of the third downs. All of the running backs combined, averaged three yards of carry. No player in the game had more than 55 yards. They scored one touchdown.

Mack Jones is going to hurt back. The tight-in situation didn't work out. Hunter Henry ran 11 more routes than Jono Smith. I mean, you go across the other fantasy teams in the league. The Texans have at least Brandon Cooks, and Damien Pierce has promise. The Jets have Elijah Moore, Garrett Wilson, Breece Hall, Michael Carter. Like, I'm more excited about the Jets and the Texans that I am the Patriots in the Flacko threw the ball 59 times.

You had 59 pass the times, most of the NFL. Did you realize this? Craig, I think you're spot on because you kind of have to forget it's the Patriots for a second, and you have to be objective. And you're like, the running back situation is Damian Harris trying to, like, score touchdowns for what is going to be a bottom three offense. You have like, you know, a touchdown dependent guy on a bottom three offense.

Remandre being hoping, what are you hoping for Remandre? And then like it's a three-way time split and then a passing offense. Like Hunter Henry as a tight end dependent touchdown on one of the worst offenses in football is like the only guy who's like actually startable? Like what do you have to do? How down bad do you have to be

to actually play Damien Harris? You know what I mean? The entire team is by committee. Like the entire offense is by committee. There's nobody who is going to command I'd love to make like a prediction. Is anyone on the Patriots going to get more than 100 yards in a game this year? Maybe I'll say no.

Oh, man. Great song, though. God, it is. Okay, next one here, this is high fits. Other than Jonathan Taylor, the second round running backs are better than the first. Okay, give us a roundup. Yeah, give us a roundup. This is just piggybacking off the last thing I said.

So Jonathan Taylor's out of this. He doesn't count. But basically, you know, if you look at this, talking about, you know, fears and overreaction. It's like the guys going in the second round. I mean, D'Andre Swift, Javante Williams, Sequin, Leonard Fournett, versus Austin Eccler, Derek Henry, Christian McCaffrey, Dalvin Cook.

Who do you actually want, like, the rest of the next 16 games? Throwing Najee Harris? Yeah. Yeah, Najee, yeah, depending. I mean, Joe Mixson is kind of in the middle here. Naji's weird because based on like when the foot injury news came out, like when he can go earlier, but like, who do you want? Because I kind of think those guys going like later

toward the end of the second round, Saquan, Fonet, Javante, just straight up would be better than the guys going closer to, like, the 10th overall pick, like Camara and all them. We didn't really talk about the fact

that CMC just didn't have that great of a game. Well, I'd like to point out one thing. There was a fumble. There was a fumble to snap. Yeah, that was weird. He picked it up and ran for 30 yards. Yes.

Baker wasn't shotgun, drop the snap. McCavry picks it up, runs 35 yards, and gets no fantasy points for it. He looked incredible. He looked like the old Christian McCaffee. The yards,

they're not going to add it to his total because there's this weird stat. It's like a fumble recovery. In football where if you pick up a fumble, like the stat just disappears into thin air. Yeah, it's a blind spot, yeah. So he really like had 35 more yards. But I will say,

I mean, I'm the least afraid of McCaffrey, as long as McCaffrey being healthy. Like, I'm not afraid because at the end of the day the Panthers offense just threw the ball to McCaffrey, DG Moore and Robbie Anderson. McCaffrey, I think we'll get better. Derek Henry did not look good against the Giants. He usually, he often does start slow.

But, man. I mean, Echler was playing like half the snaps. Yes. This take, this overreaction kind of captures the essence of like what week one is all about because I, I guarantee you that next week,

Derek Henry's going to have 160 yards. Echler's going to have nine catches. Galvin Cook's going to have three touchdowns. But this is why we said, this is why we told people like we were fine taking Cooper Cup or Justin Jefferson or even Jamar chasing the first round. And you guys were more on Jamar than me. But like, this is why we were like,

take a receiver. You can get a running back later. I didn't think it would be this extreme, though. All right, number nine here on the overreaction power ranking. This is from D.K. There's just one problem happy. CD Lamb isn't very good. Yeah.

So I'm writing an article this week about basically the panic index for fantasy football after one week. I'm legitimately kind of panicking about CDLAM. Like most of the stuff that happened in week one, I'm like, it's weird. It's an outlier. Week one is always a bit like off. the CD Lamb stuff is actually has me worried like basically if you go back to last year down the stretch like during the fantasy playoffs essentially he averaged like eight and a half points per game during the fantasy playoffs he was like outscored by freaking Cedricin wilson and and

Michael Gallup and all these other just like random guys there was some signs there that he wasn't like this true alpha number one that we kind of have made him you know made him into and then coming into the season like there was plenty of reasons for to be bullish about him coming into season like like even these underlying like metrics like his pff grade was really good last year's yards per route one run was really good he was very good in reception perception like there's all this data that would back up the idea that he's going to be this electric elite pass catcher but he fucking stumbled out of the gates again like it was really bad he had 11 targets he only had two catches for 29 yards um so and by the way he had a chance for like a 74 yard touchdown but uh eunhardt's at pf does the sheesh article

every week, which is great because it's basically all the plays that were really close to happening. Like, for instance, Jamar Chase was really close literally to scoring four more touchdown. Best catch of the week. Yes. Every good play that happened this week was in that game. Yeah. So the Shish report is very great. I don't know if that's the official name of it, but that's like the spirit of it.

And in that, Hartett's noted that Lamb, and I went back and watched the play, he got open down the sideline, like really late in the fourth quarter. it would have been a 74-yard touchdown. And Cooper Rush fucking overthrew it out of bounds by about eight yards. And I mean, like, this is foreshadowing for what the rest of the season is going to be like, depending on how long Dak Prescott's out. I want to extend this past Tom Tom, because this is important. I actually didn't send this to Craig, and I don't know why I kind of just forgot because this has been in my head all week that I forgot it was even an overreaction.

I feel like the Cowboys are just the Chicago Bears with better PR at this point. Like, if they don't have DAC, I think the Cowboys are legitimately, I think they're going to last in the NFC East and they have a chance to be bottom five in the entire NFL get a top five pick. Like, I mean, I know that sounds nuts, but at the end of the day, what's the best strength of this team?

A defensive end and the two running backs? Doesn't that sound like the Bears when they had Khalil Mack and freaking David and Montgomery? Like, what is going on in this team? They don't have a good stadium though, High Fitz. Well, yeah, well, the problem of the bears is the field floods

and the time of the Cowboys is the ceiling. It's too short. Sometimes. And I think Jerry World was a Nathan for you. you'll never convince me otherwise. Yes. But I guess, like, we are doing our rankings this week. And my brain broke today doing rankings.

It was like, where do I rank C.D. Lamb among all these other players? He was wide receiver six in ADP. Yeah. If you, like, you have to play them in theory. No, you fucking don't. You should. Like, it takes, you know, Khutzpah to bench him. You don't have to play CDLAM with Cooper Rush.

Unless you want to be, like, Craig, a little contrarian to make the argument that Cooper Rush will be better for C.D. Lamb because he will have to force the ball to him. What else is your argument? He's playing behind now a bottom 5-0 line and he's probably the worst starting quarterback period. Would you rather have Darnel Mooney with Justin Fields or C.D. Lamb with Cooper Rush. Fuck. Mooney. Well, Moody's also in that bucket. Colcomicca, no, like no catches last week. That was brutal. And then Darnell Moody barely did anything. And like, again, it was raining for the Bears too. Yeah. But, man, I kind of think next.

Like, if you put a gun to my head, dude, I mean, give me darn old moody for next week. Oh, my God. You got to play CD-Land if you have them, but not really. Okay. It's tough. I'm playing CD, but I'm worried. That's how I'm going to put it. Okay, last one here.

This one comes from me. This is perhaps one of the more hyperbolic ones. But, like, when is anybody going to acknowledge that Davis Mills might be decent? Yeah, I like this one. Oh, no, never. Craig, I almost put this. He's just not that bad. Like, late-round quarterbacks pan out all the time,

and I feel like we are really. resisting saying that he's, all right, you know, and I looked up, all the games where he has over 25 passing attempts, which is basically every game he either didn't leave with an injury, or the first few games when he was a rookie, they didn't throw it that much. So all the games, he has over 25 passing attempts. He's averaging 250 yards per game, and he's thrown 16 touchdowns to five picks. Like, he's just fine. Like, he's not bad.

Like, I don't know what it is it. Like, why does nobody want to acknowledge that Davis Mills is like, he's not so bad? Well, I think I'd almost go the other way on this. everyone thinks Davis Mills is underrated I think Davis Mills is unanimously considered underrated No I don't think so I think the media is very against Davis Mills

and thinks he's terrible Who? I think the average Like I do think that's true I do think that's true I think like my dad is like that Davis Mills Not so bad But I think like every analyst out there's like

Davis Mills is terrible Do you think it's the hubris Of the draft expert upset That they didn't predict Davis Mills being decent Like what is it? I actually don't because he was tried Because he was like a, like basically a good player at Stanford.

He dealt with injuries, right? Dick is a very high, highly, highly, no, he wasn't, he wasn't very good. That's the dealies, though. He wasn't very good at Stanford. He had, his career was basically defined by the fact he had a major knee, he had multiple major knee injuries. He barely played.

He did play, I think he started for like one full season. He showed some traits, I would say that. But I don't think the bias against the quarterback. The bias is no one wants to be, detections could be good. The bias is his neck is outrageously long. and he's kind of like that makes him kind of weird looking. And I think people are like,

this weird looking long neck guy can't be that good. He looks photoshopped. That's a great take. It's a great take. Like if he looked like Jimmy. It's actually good for being a quarterback though. If he looked like Jimmy Garapolo, would we say he was pretty good?

Probably. Yes. That's the best thing you said. His long neck actually is helpful. This is like he's perfectly evolved to play quarterback. He can see over his lineman. He's evolved like a giraffe. I can reach really hot.

I, no, I don't know. I think this is a great take because I think I saw this. He was like in the top 10 at PFF's quarterback grading this week. He was like, you know, every time I looked at the Texans Colts game, I was like, he's making a good throw. I don't actually know, like I would need to go back and watch. He had 240 yards, two touchdowns. I'm just like, I don't know, when are we going to be like Davis Mills is better

than Justin Fields and Mack Jones and Trey Lance? On this vein, I'm surprised I had a take that I thought you would include. I guess I could have worded it a little better, but I'm just going to, I'm just going to throw. throwing out if you didn't pick it, which is Amon Raan Saint-Brown is a top-10 receiver. And it's the same thing. It's like, when are we going to accept this? Not that that's that different.

Well, I was trying to keep up. Fucking lean into it, High Fitz. Come on. He is top five. I didn't think that was that overreaction there, to be honest, calling him a top-12-R-R-receiver. What I meant is this. Amon-Ross-St. Brown is top-9.

And when I say top-nine, I mean top-nine with Chase, Devante Adams, Cooper Cup, Justin Jefferson, like all, like, Stefan Diggs, all the elite players, and Amon-Ross-S-M-S-P-P-Pers. Brown. Like, they're all together. And at some point, we have to, like, accept that this is reality in the world we live in. At the last six games of last season, Amon Ra St. Brown was literally, what the fuck just happened? Sorry. The timer went off. Oh, I just removed the timer from the screens. Oh, okay. Sorry. So I thought my computer was shutting down. We can keep that in. It's cute.

A little peek behind the curtain. Yeah. Keep going. But literally, Amon Ra was a top three receiver at the downstretched last season. It was fucking, it was Cooper Cup, Amon Ra, Devante Adams. After Thanksgiving, Amon Rob's top five among receivers and targets, top five in yards, top five in touchdowns, top two in catches. And we all came into the season and like, well, you know, T.J. Hawkinson was hurt and DeAndjah Swift was hurt, so that can't happen again. And then he had 12 targets this week. He did it again. He had 12 targets. He had eight catches. He had a touchdown. Like, at some, like, how many weeks in a row can, and again, I also in a team like, you never really pick up where you leave off? However, how many weeks in a row is the Monrest in Brown going to have double digit targets until we accept? He's a top-tier-wide receiver. I saw this from Dwayne McFarland. Amon-Ras St. Brown has seven straight games with 30-plus percent target share.

That's what Devante Adams does. Elite. Elite. Yeah. I wanted to add one thing, and this is breaking. This is breaking news. Craig, it doesn't make your take any less good because your take was very good. Time Montgomery has been placed on the injured reserve. Oh.

So that does change things, potentially, for the Patriots' backfield. This was the whole thing all along. If it's a two-man rotation, that's very good for Damien Harris and for Madre Stevenson. If it's a three-man rotation, it's disaster. You want to avoid all these guys. The most Patriots thing possible, and maybe Craig's take is going to be correct, is that they're going to say Pierre Strong. Yes, Pierre Strong is just going to come in and take over the time recovery role, and we're all going to be, continue to be sad. There you go. There are your overreactions after week one. All right. You guys would get to emails? Yeah, let's do it.

All right, emails at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. If you have fantasy court, if you, whatever, you want to ask us, weird stuff, whatever you want to do. Email us, ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. Got a great email from John. John. John. John. John. J-O-N. John. Like John Snow.

I think a week or two ago, I forget, Craig told the story. You want to just rehash it real quick. Basically, we're playing some dumb game. A bunch of friends in a house had nothing to do. We had a little thing of electrolytes, like a little cylinder of electrolyte powder. and we just started sliding it across the table and tried to have it hang over the edge and that turned into a game that we played

for an entire weekend and my point was like guys will literally be entertained by anything and if you put four women in a house for 10 years they would never get to play that game. Yeah, they would never occur to them that would be entertaining. They would never think to play that game, yes. So our point was guys are stupid.

John emails on this response and John says in light of the silly game that Craig discussed were rolling the tube of electrolytes the edge of the table. A few of my buddies get together and we play trivia weekly on a front porch.

And we invented a game within the game where we crush a beer can and put the crushed beer can on the road. And every time a car runs over, they yell, can! The game is called can. That's it. That's the game. Yeah. And John writes that the guys who play this game can include a tenured college professor,

a CPA, a surgeon, a physical therapist, a teacher, and a social worker. and they're just sitting on a porch and they're yelling, CAN every few minutes on Tuesday next. We're all just a golden retriever from up, and it's a miracle we can talk, and we're all just like, squirrel! Squirrel! Dude, that is the best.

I love that. They do like the shorts with that dog that Calvin used to love watching those. This is my favorite, like, digital shorts or whatever. Amazing. If anyone wants to email us more men are dumb stories, ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com. It's great.

I hope I play Cannes this weekend with my friends. can. We also got an email specifically about how we are dumb from Adam. This one blew my mind. Last week I was saying how, I was like, why did Thanos have to kill half the people when he could have just doubled the resources of the, like, you know what I mean?

That seems like, you know, you could do that. Adam and Kansas City. I disputed that, by the way. I said there would be massive ecological problems if he did that. Well, Adam and Kansas City writes, you're forgetting that planets are spherical. So for Thanos to have double the amount of land, he...

Some people don't think so. Just kidding. That was good. Adam says for Thanos to have doubled the amount of land, he would have had to nearly triple the volume by about 2.8 times because surface area increases

at the power of 2, but the volume increases at the power of 3. I don't expect you dumb-dums to understand the math or physics. Correct. But the takeaway is that everything would weigh much more

due to the increased gravity, and that would cause all sorts of problems, including nothing being able to fly, thus triggering the extinction of the vast majority of pollinators on the planet, and the resulting ecological collapse would probably... Death of Bees. The resulting ecological collapse would probably kill virtually everyone. And then there's a pause, and he goes on and explains other things, and he says,

I'm sorry, I called you dumb-dums earlier. Only one of you is dumb, and you know which one. Love the show. The hell is that mean? I have a retort. Why can't the fucking guy with all the infinity stones just change physics? that's what I thought I have two thoughts in this one

I was like I don't know who I should have three thoughts I my first thought was yeah what DK said of like I feel like Thanos could change that two I don't know who the dumb dumb is on the pod

and three I was like well if you don't if you don't know who the dumb dumb is I think that's psychological warfare I think that's Adam fucking with us to be honest we're not gonna fucking take the bait because we're not dumb dumbs

he wants to divide in conquest that's what he wants to do chaos is a ladder well what's that line in rounders where they're like, if you can't spot the sucker at the table in half an hour, you're the sucker. And I'm like, if I can't spot the dumb, dumb on the bottom. If you don't know the annoying friend in the group, you're the annoying friend of the group.

The annoying friend, Craig, you're good at naming things. I've always wanted a word for this. You know how, like, when you're having an argument with your friends, there's like one friend that if they join you in the argument, you're actually like, oh, shit, maybe I am wrong. The bad opinion haver. Yeah, like, and it actually kind of changes based on what the argument is, right? It's usually one person, but based on what the argument is.

But, like, there's always someone that you don't. actually want on your side because it pretty... Yeah, I actually have a very strong belief on this. I think that evolutionarily speaking, the human race has evolved to have literal, like, bad opinion havers because you can't have too much, like, you can't have everyone agreeing on everything, or it could leave the, it could lead the entire race off a cliff, right? Like, evolutionarily speaking, you have to have people that disagree. You have people that, you have to have people that want to run towards danger and people

that want to run away from it. therefore all this is to say like if you have bad sports takes like odds are you have bad opinions on everything is this you explaining why you're into tyler conklin at tight on so you're saying that that biologically people are just born with the propensity to have shitty takes yes that's what I'm saying so every time we have a bad take it's like hey hey it's not your i mean it's it's in your DNA. I mean, I was born for this. Is there a shitty take gene that we can find?

You were born to be wrong. RIP to your grandma, but I was built different. Oh, man. All right, we got a fantasy court. Adam, you're the dumb, dumb. Craig's thinking about it. How dare you try and tear us down from within? The part that made me laugh the most was, sorry I called you dumb dumb earlier.

All right. Fantasy court from Colin. Court is in session. All right. If you have fantasy court emails at Rearrafantany Football at gmail.com. Colin says, good morning, your honors, Craig, Daniel, and Daniel. I'm appealing to you as the highest court in the land seeking a declaratory judgment. The Fantasy League I'm in at the suggestion of myself and my friend implemented a punishment for managers whose team has a player that scores zero or negative points.

I love that. The inspiration for this came directly from you. your episode from November of 2021. No wonder I love that. Shotgun zeros, baby. You have to chug a beer if you have a zero on your, on your roster. Yeah, November 15. In your starting lineup.

But it's only if they can get hurt, right? It's if they play the full game. No, they can get hurt. Oh, they can get hurt. Literally, it's if you have a zero in your lineup, you have to shotgun a beer and, like, video it and send it to the group. Yeah, so the losing manager has to shotgun a beer or alcohol benchers, send a video of it to the group chat.

And then, uh, Colin continues. did not draft a kicker and used the extra roster spot to hold an additional player. It was Traylon Burks. And my plan was to drop one of my bench players and add a kicker during the late slate on Sunday or on Monday. Savvy move. But it became clear on Sunday that my league mate I was playing was going to curb stump my team. And he's like glaring at Darnel Mooney and Cidlam, who ironically actually both talked about. So Conn writes, I decided to keep the roster spot and not at a kicker because I was going to lose.

and a lot of explanations that cut out a whole paragraph long so short as you can imagine his friends want him to shotgun a beer because he didn't have a kicker. Colin says, I argue the rule doesn't apply here

by the letter of the law or the spirit of the law. Number one, letter of the law, the exact wording of the rule is if somebody on your team scores, and I think he means in the lineup,

somebody on your team scores less than one point. You have to record yourself shotguning a beer. But an empty slot, Colin argues, is not somebody and the empty position does not have a numerical value, which means it's not within the scope. And then he says, two, the spirit of the law also doesn't apply because the goal of the

rule is twofold. One, to incentivize managers to pay attention and set their lineups, even when they're out of the playoff race. And two, to roast their friends when their players are complete trash. This was neither. This was not a player shitting the bed or a failure to remove an injured player. And it's the opposite. I made a strategic decision to cut my losses and retain extra roster flexibility, which is the precise kind of intentional managing conduct the rule is designed to encourage. So, just shotgun the beer. Just do it. This is what you, this is what it costs to keep that roster spot. Just fucking shotgun the beer. This is definitely argument fetch, but I, I kind of side with Colin. I think

he makes a compelling case. This is such like fucking legalese, though. It is. But I like, I like I like the spirit of it. The whole point is a punishment when you're a player. I actually don't, I don't care as much about like this incentivizes people to pay attention because in my mind people should be doing that anyway. I think it's more of a funny consequence when the player you start has a goose egg of a day. And you not starting a player deliberately to me. It's not as funny.

He doesn't follow the spirit of the rule to make them shotgun a beer when like he purposely sat a player. To me, it's not as fun. It should be when a player puts up a goose egg. I mean, yes, that is the spirit of the rule is like basically, ha-ha, you're an idiot. Yeah. Your guy scored zero. It's like, Cam Acres sucks. You shot at a beer and not, hey, man, you literally didn't start a kicker on purpose.

First, I was on D.K.'s side reading this and I'm like, dude, just shock him. And then I read and I was like, he had me thinking more than I thought. I was like, wow, is the lack of a number the same as zero? Or is it not a numerical value? Is nobody somebody? I was like, wow. And then I came back and I was like, fuck it. A DK's right.

like shotgun the beer like the strategic decision you made was I will not add a kicker and I will have to shotgun a beer and I will thus keep Trelin Burks like he has to shotgun the beer also he proposed the rule like you want to add this rule like do it I'm happy to be overruled I think that I think that we should I think that we should rule in his favor but then also just peer pressure him into shotgunning a beer anyway for just because it's no he left out three he left us supposed to be fun his yeah his point was well the rule of exist to incentivize people to pay attention and two to roast people. But three,

it's also funny to make your friends do stuff. Yeah. Right. And like, he has to do it. Not starting someone is a zero. That's you giving up on the concept of them having a good day. I think his argument was really well put together and I respect it and I agree with it. And I think from like a fun, you know,

spirit of the rule situation, like I don't think he should have to. But yeah, dude, do you basically have to shotgun of beer to keep Treeline Burks? You know? Yeah, and it's also the spirit. Yeah. I think so. The spirit of the rule is if you don't fill out your lineup, you have to shotgun. The spirit of the rule, if you're really getting high enough, like, on the hierarchy of, like, needs or whatever is community. You're shotguning a beer and sending it to your friends and you're all having a chuckle.

That's what fantasy football is all about. The points to roast your players should be about. You know what the point is? His team was so bad. He didn't even make it through the one o'clock games until he was like, I stole the shot. No, roast a beer, dude. That's the shotgun. All right.

We're holding a shot gun. We're going to let you off or whatever. Like we're going to agree with you on your, but we're going to hold you in contempt of court and do like this separate charge. No, it's like my cousin Vinny. You know my cousin Vinny? When it's like he shows up without the suit and they're like, okay, but the lawyer, you have to go to jail for the day.

Straight to jail. You're in contempt of court. Mr. Gambini. Okay. Court is dismissed. Bring in the dancing lobsters. All right. Fantasyfootball.

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Email us at Ringafantifantifficball, gmail.com. If you have fantasy courts, if you have arguments, if you have just funny stuff you want to share, actual questions about players. Thank you, Lord. Hold on. We're not thanking Adam

because he's a dumb dumb. We're not thinking about it. Craig's still thinking about it. You're mad that he called you a dumb dumb, Craig's just stewing. Listen, don't cross us, all right? Craig is Chris Farley in the front of the bus in Billy Madison just getting red like just thinking just like stealing like

like white knuckling the steering wheel just getting so red and so mad. Doyle rules. No, I should. I actually should be sympathetic with Adam because he was kind of arguing my side. He's team Thanos with me. Welcome. It's the most California thing Craig's ever said. Nothing screams Bay Area like Craig being like, yeah,

just get rid of half these people. I'm sick of him. Too much traffic in California. Nimbia. Just nimbia. right here. Yeah, half the world? Not in my backyard.

NIMBY. Get rid of these people. Thanos was just a gentrifier at his core, wasn't it? Yes, he was. It's a bit of a sadder spin on it. I guess it's not. Either way, he's killing half the world, so probably not great either way.

I feel like he could have doubled the whole thing. He should have just made a second Earth. Adam brought that up. No, yeah, Adam, oh, I cut all that out because I thought it was too much. He gave solutions. He could have just literally replicated Earth and made a second Earth. second one and put half the people on that. He could have just set the gravity to be normal. Like, let's be, also, like, we, Adam was out here being all physics, forgetting about biology.

You can just double, like, you know what's easier? Just double, like, we do this in real life with GMOs. You can just double the yield for like per square acre of crop. You can just have corn be like twice as productive as it is and feed. You know what? Hey, by the way, you know, to change the fucking land. You know what doesn't work in the fucking Marvel Cinematic Universe? Physics. Yeah, look at Thor's hammer is like a fucking superhero. Iron Man would have been dead so long ago Because of all the times he like decelerated too quickly All his organs would have like separated from his body

Is the bends Thor's hammer is like a heat seeking missile powered by Zeus It's like fucking multiverse By the way he described When you're saying replicate different like earth or whatever You just described the plot of counterpart Which is one of my favorite shows. Good show You know counterpart I've never watched

but I've never actually just read the one paragraph description of a show and been like, yeah, I want to watch that. Oh, it's so fucking good. But that one sounds great. Is it good? It's really good.

I liked it a lot. I was really bummed. Full disclosure, they canceled it after two seasons. It's the worst. So it's not like the most satisfying ending, but I thought they wrapped it up well enough to like still really recommend it. It's really good.

Do you remember that ABC show, it was like right when Lost was ending and just like J.J. Abrams's next thing. And it was basically like everyone in the world, passes out for like 40 minutes. I think we've had this conversation on the pod before. Yes, I remember that. Yeah. And then it was like good.

And then they canceled it. And I was like, but I was like 11. And I was like, but what happened to the people? That's tough. Yeah. I didn't thank a band yet. Thank you air supply. I haven't got any air supply takes.

I would love nothing more than if D.K revealed like way later than half of these bands were made up. I'm telling you, we should do two bands one live. You've heard air supply. All out of love? Come on. You're always like I've heard air supply But then anytime I ask you You're like well I don't know the names or bands of songs

I just named a song That's the point though You're the I don't know the names of songs guy Why would I know the name of the song? You have to sing the song for me How will I know the name of the song? I'm so lost without you Oh yeah yeah okay exactly of course I know that

I would do yeah Anyway what did you find out about the show Craig I couldn't find it okay So wait I have a weird question Is a curse research Is DK singing so bad that it's not a copyright thing. Like, if D.K. was a really good singer,

would that become a copyright issue for us of the song? Probably, yeah. It's like the vanilla ice thing where he adds, like, one or two bars. I don't even know exactly what his, like, legal stipulation was. But I'm so bad I'm, like, tonally off enough that it doesn't count. Ice Ice, baby. It's a great song. It really is. Such a great song.

Great pod. All right. Goodbye, everyone.