The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking the League Winners Nobody’s Talking About

Episode Date: December 6, 2023

Power hour! Discussing the most under-discussed fantasy players who can decide the end of the season (a.k.a. the Steven Glansbergs) heading into Week 14, including the Glansberg of the Year, Cole Kmet... being a surprisingly reliable fantasy option, the Chosen One, and much more (1:22). “You guys want to do some emails?” (35:17) Check out The Ringer’s Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings, waiver wire pickups, and much more! Rachaad White might just straight up be better than Austin Ekeler now (at least in fantasy) (3:26) Kyler Murray to Trey McBride, probably: "Did we just become best friends?!" (6:16) Isiah Pacheco’s flowers are way overdue (9:28) Pour one out for Tank Dell; Nico Collins managers rejoice (11:44) Could Michael Pittman Jr. finish the season as a top-10 WR? (14:40) Cole Kmet, good at football (17:28) Don’t look now, but Javonte Williams might officially be back (19:36) TE/QB/RB Taysom Hill (21:43) Hall of Fame Glansberg (24:55) The Chosen One (27:34) Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens and Jack Sanders Producer: Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm Joanna Robinson. Join us every week on the Prestige TV podcast feed is your favorite ringer hosts like Bill Simmons, Van Lathen, Mallory Rubin, Sean Fantasy, Chris Ryan, Julia Libman, and many more, cover the latest episodes of your favorite TV obsessions. From boardrooms to throne rooms to courtside
Starting point is 00:00:17 and through the mushroom apocalypse, we'll be here throughout the week breaking it all down. Subscribe to the Prestige TV podcast feed on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyfitts, and I'm joined by Dan and Kelly, Greg Corbeck and my cat, which is finally on my lap for a podcast, which I've been trying to do for two years.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Wow. He's on video. He's right here. And this is the greatest day of my life. And this, I feel very powerful. It's powerful. Our, D.K. What an extremely famous cat now.
Starting point is 00:01:01 That cat's on television. Do you feel more like Vito Corleone or Dr. Evil? I feel like, I feel like I'm complete. He's just a little baby. This is really good. audio content. It's fine. It's power hour,
Starting point is 00:01:18 and we're doing something. I'm going to be quieter. I'm going to be quieter person. But we're doing power rankings. We're powering stuff every Wednesday, and I wish I could just powering just do it obey, but no,
Starting point is 00:01:28 we're going to power rank the Glanstbergs, the people that we have not talked about. We're probably going to win your league. Craig's going to be like, I'm absolutely disgusted. Mallory Rubin's going to give me a promotion. We'll see something going on here. But yeah, Craig,
Starting point is 00:01:44 do you want to explain what Stephen Glansberg is for the people who have no idea what's happening into this podcast already. Yeah, and I'll try to do it without swearing. Stephen Glansberg is a character in the movie Super Bad, who eats lunch alone every day and is a loner, and nobody talks about or thinks about Stephen Glansberg. And so we wanted to highlight the Glansbergs, the guys, the guys nobody's really talking about right now in the fantasy season, despite the fact that they're, A, playing really well.
Starting point is 00:02:10 And what we're going to highlight today is the guys that we think, the Glansbergs we think, could have an incredible playoff stretch for your fantasy team. We're going to do this Power Hour style. So if you're not familiar with Power Hour, very simple, every two minutes, you're going to hear this sound. Or whatever royalty-free song you're hearing on Fandle. Very Funkadelic. I bet the cat loves Tom Tom. The cat would never disrespect Tom Tom.
Starting point is 00:02:36 His name's Sam. He's great. Sam, Sam. Great cat. Tom Cat. All right. I ranked them because I just decided that I wanted to rank the Glansburgs. So I'm just going to take us away here And again, I rank these guys
Starting point is 00:02:49 So if you're mad about the ranking Well, just whatever People are mad at the whole time anyway Craig's pissed that I have this cat It's like everyone's mad at the cat I'm not pissed that you have the cat I'm happy you have the cat And the cat is found at home
Starting point is 00:02:58 Just see the cut publish these like new rules For like post pandemic And one of them was like You cannot talk to your pet In your pet voice in front of other people I agree with that I think that's a good Yeah, it's a good rule
Starting point is 00:03:10 I endorse that rule Same I'm gonna break that one I actually wrote that article are I? Greg, it's so disgusted. I'm not disgusted. I don't know. It's just the animal talk in front of people.
Starting point is 00:03:22 It's exactly what the article wrote. Again, I wrote that article. Anyway, number one player that Glansberg player, nobody's talking about, but is probably changing your season. Rashad White running back for the bucks. In half PPR scoring, there are two running backs who have 100 fantasy points since week eight. It's Christian McCaffrey and Rashad White. Good stat.
Starting point is 00:03:40 D.K. I have a question for you. Yeah. Is Rashad White good? It's complicated. I think he's very good at receiving. He's like a very good pass catching running back. In fact, I think I saw at one point in the season. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I haven't looked at the updated numbers, but at one point in the season, he had more receiving yards over expectation than any other running back in the NFL and fewer rushing yards over expectation than any running back in the NFL. So basically he was not really doing much on the ground, but he's, of course, very elusive, effective pass catcher. And I think that's kind of like the story.
Starting point is 00:04:14 story of the type of player he is. I will say, like, over the last few weeks, he has impressed me more as a runner. I think he's kind of finding his groove a little bit as a runner. But I wouldn't say he's like a particularly explosive, elusive runner. He's just really, really good in the passing game. I think Rashad White's the ultimate example of a player that's a lot better in fantasy than real life. The Bucks can't run block and they really haven't been able to run block for like four years,
Starting point is 00:04:34 three years, even with Brady, they couldn't really. But he doesn't come off the field. Rashad White, like it's kind of like the Jets where however good you think Rogers was going to be, the people behind Rogers are just abysmal. the bucks just don't have other running backs. They've Chase Edmonds and Sean Tucker and Sean Tucker can't even play. Rashad White doesn't come off the field. We talk about the death of the Belcare running back.
Starting point is 00:04:53 You know, Christian McCaffrey, Derek Henry, Sequin. Every other team has a committee. We don't think about it. But Rashad White is right there with Christian McCaffrey and Snap Right. Like the people playing 80% of snaps are like McCaffrey, Sequin, Kyron Williams, which was a bit. And Rashad White. So frankly, you can't score fantasy points unless you're on the field.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I think that's what's happening. with Rashad White is he's not great. He's just catching a lot of passes because they can't run and he doesn't sub out. And in exchange, you have a guy that's going to be like a top five running back this year. There are seven running backs in the NFL right now that have over a thousand scrimmage yards.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Rashad White, one of them. I would not have guessed that. If I was making a list off the top of my head, just off the dome, I probably would not have put Rashad White in there. Over a thousand scrimmage yards. He's kind of like the embodiment of like availability is the best ability. Like he's just like been healthy. He's been on the field.
Starting point is 00:05:45 There's nobody else. and sometimes that's all it takes. And if you can identify high usage, planning for your fantasy draft, if you can get the guys who are just going to be on the field and get the ball a lot, that is more important than talent most of the time. Basically outside of the first or second round,
Starting point is 00:05:58 just get the guys on the field the most at running back. You guys really just blew through TomTom right there. But yeah, it's really weird that Rashad White was just straight out of the first time ever. Right, yeah, I know. Tom Tom Tom is so used to being disrespected. Just weird that Austin Echler, even when it came back.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Just a suggestion, really. Worse than Rashad White. All right. next up, D.K., you submitted this name, and I'm going to put it second because it's a really good Glensburg. Number two player, nobody's talking about, but is changing fantasy. I'm going to maybe win your league. Tray McBride, the tight end for the Cardinals. Yeah. I think people are wising up to this over the last week or two, but Tray McBride looks like a future superstar. I mean, he already is maybe like a superstar in particular
Starting point is 00:06:35 at the titan position because the tight end spot has, generally speaking, over the last few years, not had a ton of superstar type players. But every week, this guy goes out. He's making pretty incredible plays. He brings a sort of George Kittle-like ability after the catch. I'm not saying he's George Kittle. He's not going to break quite as many tackles, but he can get rumbling when he's got a little bit of space in the open field. Rumble's a good word for it. It's just a rumbler, a runaway beer truck.
Starting point is 00:06:58 So from week on, so basically he took over early on in the season, he was splitting reps almost evenly with Zach Hertz. Zackertz got hurt. And then the Cardinals were more or less forced to just give McBride the starting job. And all he's done since week eight, when he took over the starting job is be the overall tight end one in fantasy points. He is the number one receiver on the Cardinals right now. And that's like including Marquis Brown.
Starting point is 00:07:22 He is the number one option in this offense. He's almost doubling Marquis Brown's production since week eight. So I mean, obviously I'm very excited about what he can do down the stretch with Kyler Murray in there. I think their connection's been really strong. And then like I said before, Tram McBride seems to make like one astounding catch every week. So I really like this guy.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Also, what is he, twice as tall as any other player on the Cardinals office? He's the only guy tall him in 510. Tray McBride's not actually a person. He's just three Cardinals receivers in a trench coat. Yeah, that's just Dorch and Ron Del Moore
Starting point is 00:07:53 on each other's shoulders, I think. That's Tray McBride. But he was a huge prospect coming out of college. He was in Colorado State, right? Yeah, he was super productive in college.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I think he was a second round pick and there was some hype over him. But like most tight ends before this year, it just took him a little while to get up to speed with this offense. Plus he was playing behind Zach Hertz.
Starting point is 00:08:13 So that kind of kind of like blocked him from the field. But man, he looks really good. He just has a whole package. And he's the biggest player on the field, except for James Connor, who was also the biggest player I've ever seen. Maybe, like, relatively.
Starting point is 00:08:28 It's like an optical illusion. It's like how they fill the Lord of the Rings. You remember Big Head Mode and James Bond back in the day? Did you guys ever play that game? No, it was a young for that. There was a weird cheat code that you could put in, not even a cheat code, just like a code you could put in and everybody had gigantic heads.
Starting point is 00:08:43 It's like they're twice as big as everyone else. And this is like what James Connor and Sherry McBride look like on the Cardinals' offense. All right. Next look, can you hear the cat purring? No. Craig, do we need to banish this cat from the show? I love this cat. No, you guys are done.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I'm just going to be me and the cat. It's acting like a cat. Isn't that crazy? Incredible. It's so good. Anyway, we just found this cat in the garbage. Oh, Doug. You ever watch a video from like the early 1900s and then like you can,
Starting point is 00:09:13 see like a dog running around in the background. You're like, oh, dogs were dogs back then, too. Just being dogs. Just being dogs. Just doing dogs, though. Humans are getting smarter. Are dogs? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:26 I haven't learned much. Anyway, number three, Glanzberg player, nobody's talking about. Isaiah Pacheca are running back for the chiefs, who we have ignored. Yeah. Yeah, man. We need to, this is an appreciation episode for Isaiah Pachecoe. Everyone makes fun of the way he runs, but. man, this guy run hard.
Starting point is 00:09:45 He runs harder than anybody in the league. He runs. It's actually bizarre because he runs like he's going upstairs, but he's flat. But the meme of like what happened here, wrong answers only. It's the two doors that were just like destroyed by a car. And it's like someone's like, Isaiah Pacheco gained six yards on third and seven. He runs like the guys that have a parachute attached to him and they're going really slow. But then he just doesn't have a parachute attack.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Not that he's slow. He's just like more steps, more beats per. minute. Like his steps, he just has more steps per minute than any other run. He runs. He runs like a rockem-sockham robot. With those stiff arms and elbows and knees. Craig, do you remember when D.K. left for like one
Starting point is 00:10:26 episode last year and we were like, how many names can you come up with for Brock Purdy? We should next episode just come up with how many how many Pachaca runs like jokes? We should. I'm down to do that. That'll be, well, that's going to be our power hour next week. Email us at Ringar Fantasy Football. You got Isaiah Pacheco comps. Pacheco's a top 15
Starting point is 00:10:42 guy in the season. He's the RB 14. He is above on the season. He's above Austin Echleron points, Bejohn Robinson, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard, Ken Walker, Pacheco's above all those guys. Wow. And he's like the only thing that's going right for the Chiefs this year on offense is Isaiah Pacheco has been like the most consistent guy on the team right now. And they actually have a pretty easy next four games. So if anything, Pacheco is going to get even better. And the big knock on him last year was that he didn't catch passes. It was Jerichick McKeon who took off at the end of the year. But, you know, Pacheco had 13 catches in the entire season last year. He's already at 33 this year. So they're already trusting him and using him even more in the passing game.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And he came out of nowhere, Isaiah Pacheco. I love stories like this. I'm not going to lie after the whole running back, you know, Jonathan Taylor wants money, Sicko wants good money. They did a whole summit. Sorry, Tom, Tom. It's not great that the Chiefs has been a first-run pick and Clyde Edwards-Aller and then they just found a seventh-round running back who's significantly better. It's like Chris Carson in Seattle. Yeah, exactly. Honestly, it's actually an excellent comp. Number four, Glansburg of the year, nobody's talking about, this one's cheating because we kind of talked to it on Sunday, but he deserves it more. Nico Collins, received for the Texans.
Starting point is 00:11:51 The last three weeks, the top four receivers in fantasy over the last three weeks are Tyreek Hill for the dolphins, Mike Evans for the 49ers, and Nico Collins for the Houston Texans. Nico Collins. Wow. Didn't see that coming. Dude, Nico Collins was already bawling, like having an amazing breakout year when Tankdale was healthy. now that Tankdale, RIP broke his leg out for the season. I feel like Nico Collins, it's not only that he's a top 10 receiver the rest of the way,
Starting point is 00:12:21 it's like that doesn't go far enough. Like I feel like that's a no-brainer. It's like I would straight up rather have Nico Collins than Devante Adams. And I actually don't even think that's controversial. This is the microcosm of fantasy for me. Like, and this is the whole episode, I guess this is the theme of the episode, but it's like, Nico Collins, I'd rather have Nico Collins than Devante Adams for the rest of the year. It's just like such a wild statement.
Starting point is 00:12:41 And I wish that we could have that in our head. and know that in the future because there's no way. There's a million iterations of how this fantasy season could have gone, and I never would have guessed that. You got to tattoo that on your body, D.K. I never forget. Scott Barrett, shout out Scott Barrett. We can have a whole appreciation for Scott Barrett.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Our buddy Scott probably is the single most correct fantasy analyst of the entire year. But he pointed out that Texans receivers have just been a top, there's been a top six fantasy receiver on the week six times in the last five weeks for Houston. Like the Houston offense, C.J. Stroud's emerging. C.J. Stroud playing, like, honestly, if Joe Burr were healthy, probably how Joe Burrow would play is how C.T. Stroud's doing has just created a monster.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And now, Nico Collins, it's kind of like if Jamar Chase, it's kind of like when Tehiggins is out, what happens to Jamar Chase? Like, Nico Collins, he's huge. He's 6 foot 4. He plays big, but he's got good hands. No shame to D.K. Metcalfe, but like, nothing bounces off his hands. He, like, also he's the third down guy. Like, Stroud has this
Starting point is 00:13:38 mind meld with him. Like, it's really impressive to watch him play. Do you guys think Nico Collins is going to be the number one option for Stroud for like the foreseeable future? Or are they going to go get T. Higgins or something in the off season, you know? Well, I was going to say between Collins and Tank Dell. And that's like who's going to be the number one option? I mean, they have the cheapest most. I mean, if you, if you factor in money, they have the best receiving core in the league from an affordability standpoint, wouldn't you say? Oh, yeah. For sure. They don't need to invest more in the offense,
Starting point is 00:14:12 or like at least the skill group because, I mean, you've got Stroud and Nico and tanked out all on rookie contracts. Like, just, then they also have a fine offensive line. Like, you could just go and put, give Will Anderson and the defender,
Starting point is 00:14:23 like a defensive line. Like, Texans are in a really good spot. Can we get T. Higgins to the Chiefs next year? I'm going to start lobbying for that. No, I think they should go get like Zay Jones or something.
Starting point is 00:14:34 That feels like something they would do. Seriously. This again. Yeah. While we're on Nico Collins, I also want to do number five here, which feels related, but Michael Pittman,
Starting point is 00:14:44 receiver for the Colts, Tauboda Glansberg. I think he's actually. Glansburg of the year probably. Him or Rashad White. I think he has to be Glansberg in the year for Michael Pittman. I was wrong about Michael Pittman. Kind of where my fear with Michael Pittman was Anthony Richardson related,
Starting point is 00:14:56 where I was worried that Anthony Richardson would not be able to get Pittman the ball. But Michael Pittman was really good with Richardson. Also, I underrated Pittman because Carter Mitch you, Michael Pittman has just straight up been fantastic. He's been a true number one receiver. They have used him in all these ways. He's also a big guy like Nico Collins, but also kind of has more keen in Allen to his game.
Starting point is 00:15:15 He's been absolutely fantastic, but this stat gobspacked me. Michael Pittman has 314 catches in his career, which is more than any player in their first four years in the history of the Indianapolis cults this week, passing Marvin Harrison's first four years of the cults, which blew my mind. You know, it's also a crazy stat I saw was that not only has he been incredible
Starting point is 00:15:38 with Gardner-Minschun and Anthony Richardson with the targets he's getting. But a lot of the targets he's getting are, are not catchable passes. There was a set out there that I saw the lowest catchable target rate on basically deep passes, passes 10 plus yards down the field. He has the second most uncatchable target rate
Starting point is 00:15:55 for passes over 10 yards. And he's still having the year he's having. Elijah Morris first, and he's having a terrible year because apparently every pass is off target. And yet Michael Pittman is a top 10 guy in the year. And if Anthony Richardson or Gardner Minchu were a little more accurate down the field,
Starting point is 00:16:10 Michael Pittman would be having an even better year. I think, hi, Fitz, you were getting into this a little bit, but I think what's interesting about the Michael Pittman stuff is how much variance they use in terms of, like, how many routes he's running, how many, like the variance of where he's getting targeted. If you look at, so I'm looking at next gen stats, they have these route charts where it shows where the player has been lining up and where they're running around, where they're catching it,
Starting point is 00:16:33 and where they're doing yards after the catch. And, like, his charts look like a big scribbly signature. It's like all over the field. It's like what Calvin, my four-year-old son, will draw, which is a good thing. I think, because they're like essentially what that tells me is they're scheming him up to get him the football. They're being very purposeful about this because he's one of their best players. And I think that's smart coaching. So Pittman's like a good combination of scheme and talent, I think, too.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I mean, if you think about it that way, it's like, what's a good player receiver is someone that you scheme up to get the football? Here are the leaders and targets this season. Keenan Allen is first, Michael Pittman's second, Tyree Kills, third. Yeah, I wouldn't have guessed that either. That's cool. He also just seems to be wide open at all times. It's like how every time Brandon I. You catches a pass, I'm like, where are the defenders?
Starting point is 00:17:17 It seems like they scheme up Michael Pittman so well that every time he catches a ball over the middle of the field, there's nobody around him. And I'm like, this guy's slow, just like Keenan Allen. Yeah, he could beat Michael Pittman's 40. Sorry, Tom, Tom. Next up, we have Cole Komet, tight in for the Bears, number six. Yeah. Player no one's talking about.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Dude, I, Cole Kemet, he might as well be like a player on the 1938 Chicago Brussels. This is why I picked him. because I think it's not even necessarily that he's having like in a completely extraordinary season. I just feel like he's been really good without anyone acknowledging the fact that he's been good. He is the tight end six on the season in points per game. Since week four, he got off to a little bit of a slow start. Since week four, he's averaging over 10 points per game.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And so, you know, obviously the bear's offense is up and down. It's a little bit hit or miss. But he has been one of the more constant creators for them. He's been a checkdown option for whoever, they're trotted out at quarterback, whether it's Justin Fields or Tyson Bayesian. And he's been pretty good in the red zone, like bringing down some pretty difficult catches in like with guys draped on him and all that stuff. So I just want to appreciate that Cole Kmetz's been pretty solid. And like I've put him in starting
Starting point is 00:18:25 Lance a couple times, not feeling great about it, but then he always delivers. I think after the big six guys and then you could add in, um, maybe Kincaid, but like Kelsey Hawkinson, Laporta, Andrews, Kittle and McBride. Like those are guys I feel very confident. about week in and week out. I think I put Komet just in the tier right below those guys. You know those stories about actors where they're like, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:48 like John Hamm was like I was really close to hanging the cleats up and then I got Mad Men. I feel like we were very close to declaring Col Komet like a bust. I agree. Yeah, and then he got a huge contract and I was like, what are they doing?
Starting point is 00:19:01 Turns out maybe that was a good thing. Her? Yeah. What is he funny? Yeah, he honestly like not even just the stats, but I think the eye test proves that or at least tells me that he's been pretty good. Like he makes some pretty tough catches in traffic.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I mean, he had two touchdowns in the first quarter a few weeks ago. And my first, I mean, honest to God, media bias, my first thought was, shit, I think I have to acknowledge that this guy exists. Yeah, he's one of those that ignore the stat lines and move on players. Cold commit, he exists. Next up, number seven player nobody's talking about. Javante Williams running back for the Broncos. He exists as well. another guy who just kind of exists,
Starting point is 00:19:42 Giovante Williams. Since week eight, Javante Williams, fourth in touches per game at running back. He's getting 21 touches a game, which is the, you know, we've made Rashad White,
Starting point is 00:19:53 Isaiah Pacheco, these are guys who are getting the ball. And Javonte Williams has been getting the ball. There was that three-headed thing with P. Ryan and McLaughlin, at least from a running standpoint, like it is all Javante now that he's healthy. And he's getting further and further away
Starting point is 00:20:05 from that injury from last year. He's getting healthier and healthier. And Denver, despite their winning streak that they were on, they're playing tough teams. They're playing Kansas City, Buffalo, Cleveland, Minnesota, who's been really stingy. The next four weeks,
Starting point is 00:20:17 Denver is playing the Chargers twice, the Lions, who have been a sieve in the Patriots. And so Denver is going to be in the mix, in the playoff race, and Javonte Williams is a guy, I think, is just like a Glansberg who's simmering right now,
Starting point is 00:20:30 waiting to take off. I like this because the Broncos, their identity fits what you want in terms of, like, the usage. They just want to, like, grind the clock out. they want to be really, really balanced. They want to take as much off of Russell Wilson's plate, I think, as possible. And like, Jantay Williams, like you said, he's getting healthier as the year goes on.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Starting to look more like the guy that they drafted it would be. I think he was a second round pick a couple years ago. Obviously, blew out his knee. But, you know, going back to his college days, he was in like a Marshawn Lynch beast mode type player. Like, he's just breaking tackles, running over guys. And you're starting to see that come alive again. So he could be one of those players, Craig, that you mentioned, like, just really finished is strong, has a ton of volume, and is like the backbone of your fantasy team quietly.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Kyle Brandt basically invented that angry run scepter for Giovante Williams. And Craig, I think this is a phenomenal call with the charges coming up twice in the next four weeks. Yeah, one being your championship week, week 17. They're playing the charges next week and week 17. Yeah, this is great. Wow, we're early. Four seconds early on Tom Tom. What do we do now?
Starting point is 00:21:35 You're welcome. We're making up ground. We're respecting him. Pain off that. All right, next up, players, no one's talking about. We've talked about this guy. People are talking about this guy, but I still think he's underappreciated for what he does. Tastom Hill for the Saints, who is a tight end, quarterback, running back, fullback.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And also just they're still in the kick returner thing. He's in the, they keep booting out of the end zone. I'm like, let Taseham Hill get a ball. I want to see what the hell's going to happen when he gets the ball in a kick return. I feel like Taysam Hill is what you would get if Cordarrel Patterson was also like sometimes the quarterback. you know what I mean? Like people get so excited about Cordero Patterson and for good reason he's super fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Not necessarily so much this year, but like in past years. But like Taysam Hill is sort of the butt of so many jokes, but he's actually really good at football is sort of my contention. Like he just, they use them in so many different ways. And since week six when the Saints really started leaning into this idea that they have a good player here,
Starting point is 00:22:32 he's averaged almost 13 points for game at half BBR. He is, by the way, that's one less point per game than Derek Cawker. has averaged in that stretch. So he's almost equal to the scoring the same amount of Derek Carr over since week six. He is the tight end three in that stretch, which is an eight week stretch, two months. He's averaging over 13 points per game. He's averaging over four points per game more than Travis Kelsey in the last eight weeks.
Starting point is 00:23:01 So yeah. Every season, there's like a couple formations that like to me visually just become iconic for the season. And I feel like obviously the Tush Bush is that's it for the. this year. But the funniest package in football right now is Taysam Hill in the goal line with their defensive tackle if his name is number 99. Yeah, yeah. And he's the biggest person
Starting point is 00:23:21 on the entire Saints roster in the backfield with Taysam Hill and he's the lead blocker on these goal line runs. I think it's Kaylon Sanders. Sonders? Yes, Kailen Saunders. I'm like, what am I watching what sport is this? And it's the best. Yeah. How sad is it that they gave Derek Carr $150 million
Starting point is 00:23:37 and the second he gets in the red zone, they yank him for Taysam Hill? Dude, the fact that Michael Thomas tweeted so much about hating Derek Ari deleted his Twitter. I just love to ASMO. Score early this NFL season with Fandul America's number one sports book. Right now, new customers get $150 in bonus bets when your first $5 money line bet wins. This Thursday night, we got the Steelers playing the Patriots. Oh, man, Mitchell Trubisky, Bailey, Zappy, I don't know, bet the unders.
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Starting point is 00:25:03 Yes. Brandon Cook's wide receiver for the Dallas Cowboys, who perhaps nothing better could be said than I think half the people listening probably forgot he was even still on the Cowboys, Brandon Cooks. It's been half the season. Yeah. Brandon Cook's is the quintessential all-boring player. He's the quintessential, forgettable person.
Starting point is 00:25:22 But what's crazy is, you know how the Cowboys, the first like four games, five games, actually? Like we were like, they haven't played a normal game. Everything's been like 20-point difference in the second half. Since week six, when the Cowboys played the Chargers, that was the first normal game. Since week six, Brandon Cooks has more fantasy points per game than Stefan Dix. I love these stats.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I love it when you pull these out because that's just like, wow. I was going to say the quintessential thing about Brandon Cooks is no matter how many times we've talked about him this year, which again, it's not many. Every time he catches a pass, I feel like I have to cross-reference the Cowboys roster to be like, who is this guy? Like, I never can remember who he is. And he's, by the way, he's like changed his number a few times when he's been in the pros. Like he was number 13. Well, maybe it's because he was on six teams. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:06 So like he doesn't have like a signature number that you remember. And so again, this is the guy who every time he catches. is a pass. I'm like, okay, who's this little speedy guy? I don't know who he is. Who are you a little guy? And you're like, oh, actually, you're like 30 years old? Oh, he's got like 8,000 years. It's like high-fetched to his cat. He's like, oh, who are you there? You're a guy? Did say I caught my cat a baby, even though he's like seven.
Starting point is 00:26:28 But no, Brandon Cooks is wearing three, which that's like for kickers, dude. Like, it's so everything about it's weird. But since week six, like, he's, again, the first six weeks, you throw him out for the Cowboys because it was like 40-0 and it, you know, it was just weird games. Since week six, when the Cowboys' offense actually started being a real offense. Brandon Cooks has been the 17th best fantasy receiver, which is exactly what he has done in his entire career. He's been between 9th and 17th in points,
Starting point is 00:26:55 basically every year of his career, except last year when the Texans were tanking and he was mad about it. Since week six, better than Jill and Waddled. All right. Well, that goes about saying. Leave Waddle alone. Better than Waddle, better than Cortland Sutton,
Starting point is 00:27:09 who could have been on his list as a Russ Renaissance. He's been better than, It's basically the same as Crystal Lave, better than D'Andre Hopkins, better than Amari Cooper, who like was also in Dallas, better than DJ Moore, better than Garrett Wilson, Tyler Lockett. Like, I just, Brandon Cooks probably was on waivers multiple times this year in your league. For like a long time. Yeah. Just better than, I can't have.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Just death taxes, Brandon Cooks being on some random team being in top 20 receiving. All right. Next up here. Brock Purdy, quarterback for the 49ers. And I'm cheating here because we're saying Lansberg's people no one's talking about. obviously Brock Purdy gets talked about a lot. But I think we actually
Starting point is 00:27:45 almost never talk about Brock Purdy through the lens of a fantasy player. We just yell an argument whether Brock Purdy's good at football or not. In the context of like the top fantasy quarterbacks, we don't talk about him.
Starting point is 00:27:59 He's not considered one, right? No. So yeah, this is a perfect one, I think. And in some ways, it's the exact opposite of the MVP discussion.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Where the MVP discussion, it's like, well, Purdy's putting up numbers, but like should he get credit? it for them. This is almost the opposite where it's like, who cares if Brock Pretty is good or not? It's objective. It's like whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Show me the money. Like Craig, how many quarterbacks would you take ahead of Brock Purdy rest of the season? Three. Josh Allen, Jalen Hertz, and Dak Prescott, you could even talk me out of Dak. Yeah, because you're like, maybe he peaked by now. Well, and the next four games for DAC are a lot harder than the last seven. Not
Starting point is 00:28:35 really knocking him, but if you wanted to pick Nitz. But over the last four weeks, Brock Purdy is the number four quarterback and fantasy behind only those three guys, Dak, Jalen Hertz, and Josh Allen. He's putting up 22 a game. On the season, he's the QB6. Like, where is this guy going to go in draft next year?
Starting point is 00:28:50 The stats on him are really, really wild from an efficiency standpoint. I mean, the fact that he's like, he's putting up all-time numbers in terms of like yards per attempt. He's basically chucking the ball downfield and they're always being caught. He leads the league in completion percentage and also leads the league in yards per attempt. He's got the best skill group in the league. he leads the league in QBR. His only Achilles' heel seems to be when Trent Williams is out.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Those are his two worst games this year, other than the Browns. But Trent Williams missed two games against Cincinnati, Minnesota, and he had two touchdowns and four picks in that game. But when Trent Williams is healthy, they're essentially the fucking Avengers. Is there any other time in at least modern NFL history where the real-life MVP candidate was like somebody that people were trying to get rid of in fantasy, like sell high on this guy?
Starting point is 00:29:37 I traded Brock Purdy away. like probably about a month ago or something like that. I traded Brock Purdy and change for Joe Burrow because I'm like Joe Burrow, he's going to finish top five as a quarterback. And I should have just kept Brock Purdy. Obviously, Joe Burrell got hurt, which is a huge factor. But even if he was healthy, like, there's a world in which Brock Pretty scoring like almost the exact same amount of points is Joe Burrow.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Honestly, he should be on the Joe Burrow level in fantasy. Kai, just wind the clock again. We're doing Tom Top again. Just put another two minutes at the clap for Brock Purdy. my good friend's stepfather has been in a fantasy league for like 40 years. He's like on the Bill Simmons. Like they had to wait till like USA Today came out of the math. Yeah, they heard they heard the who won on Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:30:23 And like it's an 18 league of just dudes from the Bay Area. And his shout out Tom. His name's Thompson's kind of perfect. Shout out Tom. Tom. Tom. In the Bay. Shouts out of the Bay.
Starting point is 00:30:33 He knows that I do the show. And he's like, well, I just took McCaffrey first and then got Brock Burry late. and I don't get what's so hard. And he's like undefeated in this. This is easy. You're actually 100% right. Like Matt Bellany, who does the town podcast that I produce, he's like not super tapped into football,
Starting point is 00:30:48 but casually watches, casually plays fantasy. And he goes, every year I just get Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. I feel like that's just the best move. And every year he's like a top three team in the league. I'm like, yeah, that's honestly kind of as easy. We record hundreds and hundreds of hours of podcasts every year.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Just be like, just take Patrick Mahomes, you know? I would love to do this, reminds me high fits. I would love to do a demographic like study based on like who is winning the most championships in any given year. And like this year I bet people in San Francisco
Starting point is 00:31:18 and Detroit are like dominated their fantasy. I think this like Homer is great. Dude, 100% for that because every honestly, the easiest way to be good in fantasy is to like nail the teams that were underrated. Like if you're Miami Dolphins fan and you just had two in Tyreek.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Texans, if you're Texans fan and you overdrafted, like Houston's Drowded, Niko Tank. doesn't matter what your friend said. Same with Cal boys. Dak and C.D. Lamb. And also fathers, dads love Brock Purdy.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Every dad is like, I like that purdy kid. And like, you know. Mr. Irrelevant. Yeah. We should do the all-dad team. I feel like Isaiah Pacheco's on it. Dad's,
Starting point is 00:31:54 he runs hard. Undrafted. Just no nonsense. He gets downhill. He's not pussyfooting around behind the line. We should do the all-dad team. I like that Pooking the Koo.
Starting point is 00:32:06 But they would call Nuka Pakua. Yeah. Dude, I love, you know, we got so many emails from people about how dad's like who can't pronounce names. But the one I think about the most is the dad who was a lifelong Steelers fan but couldn't pronounce Ben Rothesburg's name and called him like, like, Rothling Berringer for like the entirety of his career. It's not even close. It's like, no. Oh, that's good. But I really think Purdy next year, like, has to.
Starting point is 00:32:36 to be a top seven quarterback in drafts. It's just like every week he comes out and throws four touchdowns like it's nothing. He barely breaks the sweat. He's like the closest thing you can get to like playing perfect quarterback. And you know what's crazy? His attempts are not even close to everybody else.
Starting point is 00:32:50 He basically throws 27 passes a game. Everybody else throws like 37. And yet he still is a top five fantasy quarterback. The only other guys who are basically throwing the same amount of times as him are guys who run like Lamar Jackson and Justin Fields. He's so efficient. He's throwing 10 times less than every other quarterback.
Starting point is 00:33:06 and competing with them from a fantasy standpoint. Did we even mention the staff that someone put in the group chat today from Scott Barrett's the thing about it, Just at Yards for attempt? Yeah, I hinted at it. He's basically third in the last 20 years. But the season's number one in that stat is Aaron Rogers, 2011, which is the best year of Rogers' career.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Yeah. Number two is Peyton Manning 04 when he threw 49 touchdowns. That's the best year of Peyton Manning's career other than 2013. Then it's Brock Purdy this year. Matt Ryan, when he won MVP 2016, Patrick Wilms, 2018 when he threw 50 touchdowns in his first season. Like those are, along with Brady and 07, the best quarterback seasons of the 21st century. I'm really happy that I immediately pivoted off of hating Purdy.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Like I'm willing to say that I was wrong. Let the hate out of your heart. I feel like you left for one episode and then D.K. and I were like, what do we, you know, just had like a huddle. I just, I mean, look, again, I can only judge based off what I'm watching. You know what I mean? And he's done it week after week. I'm like, all right, at this point, if I say he's a mediocre quarterback, I'm just ignorant.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I think that the real thing with Purdy is everyone's right. He deserves credit for this death star he runs. Also, he gets to run a death star. And that the thing that actually he contributes is he makes $50,000 a game because he was the last pick in the draft. Deshaun Watson makes $2 million per game. And like that is the difference. Come on over and live in this gray area, right? High Fitz.
Starting point is 00:34:29 There's a gray area here in this argument. EPA per pay, baby. it'll be interesting to see what he gets paid Yeah well first Honestly whether the Dolphins pit two is next Anyway all right Those are the Glansbergs I'm glad that we ended on the nobody players
Starting point is 00:34:43 Nobody's talking about with the single most talked about But yes Well fantasy in a fantasy lens I actually would highly agree that he's super underrated From a fantasy point of view People aren't talking about him like he's an MVP guy I feel I would like to make a list And just go back of like real life MVP's in fantasy
Starting point is 00:35:02 I feel like there's always always been so much more excitement about the quote-unquote real-life MVP's just because whatever, they're running these awesome offenses. There are all these potential points. And we just can't, like people just can't get excited about Brock Purdy, it feels like. You guys want to do a little fantasy court? Yeah. Oh, right. The guest judge, my cat, it's just a baby. We got to get a focus group here, talk to us about how they're feeling about the cat. Is this an overexposure to the What's the overall impression of the cat? It's like when they film multiple endings and show them to audiences.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I feel like it's too much cat? Yeah, you're name. What are you guys going to do on the cat? What do they think? What are you guys going to do, though, if people like it? I guess they'll just have to accept it. I won't show you that data. You're going to pander.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Pander, pander to the audience. All right. Fantasy court. This is from Eli. Eli. Eli. So should we like shout out Jack Links, even though they didn't sponsor this? Should we just be like, Jack Links? I was eating them the other day.
Starting point is 00:36:04 I had a couple friends over. We were just enjoying the shit out of some jacklings. So, yeah. Enjoying the shit out of some jacklings. I love to see. You and a buddy on the couch just munching down on jack links watching a game. We ate like three bags. The truth, there's like four of us.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Just chowed out on some jacklinks, you know? I think free advertising, by the way, is hysterical. And I love doing it. And I think people should do it more. I actually really earn a. advertising. We're not getting paid. We just really like it. I completely disagree with the no free ads mantra. I love it. Talk about all the brands you like. Maybe they'll come to you. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Put out the world. It's karma. Sure. Speaking of coming to you, Eli, Eli. Eli. But honestly, we took this because Solac texted us. I'm in a league with a bunch of buddies from a summer camp. Actually, it's the same summer camp. Our friend Ben is a close friend of mine for many years. And Solac texted us asking us to take this case. which as a reminder, so like,
Starting point is 00:37:04 to know people, apparently, Eli. Next week, baby, going to have the NFL draft show right here, baby.
Starting point is 00:37:09 He's like, he's sending us on trips. We're doing all kinds of, like perks. We got places in the Cayman Islands that we can visit,
Starting point is 00:37:17 you know, get the, get his case moved up the docket, if you will. I mean, I hear, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:22 people buying judge's houses these days. Like I'm a psycho. No, we're on fantasy court, you know, just get some vacations with the,
Starting point is 00:37:29 you know, there's perks that come with being a judge. There's nothing wrong. What's the case here? I don't know. Eli says last season went through a major commissioner change.
Starting point is 00:37:37 In the process, a few things slipped through the cracks. For the three years before this year, we had a punishment for the last place player, including someone got frosted tips, someone edited the 24-hour Waffle House Challenge, etc, etc. Frosted tips.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I really like that. I had frosted tips in sixth grade. That's a great one. Last year, we never came to conclusion about what the punishment was going to be for this season. And we brought it up frequently. chap, we never were able to come to a consensus of what the punishment would be because the commissioner would change.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Well, I ended up coming at last. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Good thing you dragged your feet. Yeah. Yeah, my league mates are upset that I have not done a punishment. And we have agreed that if you guys rule, I should be held responsive coming in last. I've agreed to do the hot ones challenge. No questions asked based on our ruling.
Starting point is 00:38:23 But if you guys rule in my favor and say I should not have to do a punishment because the league did not decide on what the punishment was, then everyone has agreed to let me off the hook. And the important context is it's a keeper league and he traded away his players now for draft picks in the future under the assumption there would be no punishment because they were agreed on one. And he kept bringing up all year that they had not agreed on one.
Starting point is 00:38:46 That's the very important context Eli would like to know is that he brought this up a lot in the chat. I think I'm on team Eli here. We've actually had this issue in my long time, longstanding league where if you don't come up with the last place punishment before kickoff week one, there is no last place punishment, in my opinion. Can I give you a take, though?
Starting point is 00:39:08 Sure. I don't expect it. Eli's argument to me actually screams of guilt. Because what he's saying is he brought up that there was no punishment a lot and then traded away his players and he was trying to kind of trying to get away with one here. He's trying to add future picks in this like keeper league.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Yeah, but this is a savvy management. Taking advantage of the tax code. Yes. He's got an offshore bank account. That's all. But the fact, yeah, that's nothing sketchy about that. I would say the fact that he's already agreed to do the specific hot ones challenge means that I feel like he should do the hot ones challenge because he came in last place.
Starting point is 00:39:51 You've got to keep the tradition up. You've been doing this for years. Just do the hot ones. You came in last place. The only thing I would say about that, though, is then you, you, You set the precedent for, oh, we don't need to figure out what the punishment is before the season starts. We'll just have somebody do something like the Hot Ones Challenge. You need to set the precedent that you need to decide what the punishment is before the season starts.
Starting point is 00:40:10 It's the other way around. You do it on the basis that you do the challenge of the basis that we need to figure this out from the beginning, though. But no, because you can't set the precedent that you can squirm your way out of the ending. It's not squirming. Yeah, he's not squirming. The whole group is responsible for them. I agree. He's not the one of planning the punishment.
Starting point is 00:40:26 The league has to come to a consensus and they didn't. But he came in last, though. They found a punishment that he agreed to. He's agreed to this punishment. He should do a punishment. Here's what I think. Should? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Here's the deal. I think it's extremely cut and dry. You can't decide on the league last place to finish punishment after the season started. But this is the wrong. I'm talking. I'm going to gavel you. Gavle me.
Starting point is 00:40:51 In the interest of fun and fellowship and the spirit of doing these fantasy leagues, he should do the Hot Onch Challenge. just because it's fine. I agree. Like also, Hot one's challenge, not that bad. Not that big of a deal. Just do it for the content. It's not like he has to run a marathon or something. I agree with you, D.K., that a league cannot foist a specific challenge upon you when you had not agreed on one beforehand. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:15 But he has agreed, all right, that one I would do if I have to do one. Yeah. The question is, should he have to do it when? And my answer is, well, you've always had a punishment. And if they found one, you'll do, then yeah, that's it. He shouldn't have to, but he, this is like the Craig thing where it's like, you can't bench him, but you should. He should do it. You can't make him do it, but he should do it.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Right. Correct. He said that if we say he should do it, he'll do it, no questions ask, which I feel like he wasn't foisted upon him. He's like, yeah. The law should stipulate that this is not a new rule, but he should still do it. What if he said in parentheses, I know the hot ones that challenge isn't even that bad of a punishment? It's just the principle of the whole thing for me. You know, there we go.
Starting point is 00:41:56 You know what? This is what should happen. He should do it. But by participating in this last place punishment that was not established before the season started, he should be the one to get to pick the last place punishment for next year. If he does go out one's challenge. I love that. Now we're working the levers of the law.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Yes, right. I don't know why, but that feels like justice. That's great. Wow, look at us. We actually came to an answer. There you go. There you go. Eat a wing covered in DeBom hot sauce
Starting point is 00:42:29 and then you get to decide the last place punishment next year. I never understood why DeBom was the hottest one. You know, it's like the seventh wing is the hottest one and the next three don't seem to affect anybody. Never understood that. No one else is a hot one's guy. I'm a big hot one's guy.
Starting point is 00:42:43 I haven't really watched it. I don't know. It's weird because the one with Idris Elba where he's like choking on himself. Like you kind of think... The meme? Yeah, the meme. You kind of think it's going to be really hot.
Starting point is 00:42:52 And then some of them, they're like, yeah, they're not that hot. DeBomb is really... damn hot. The one that... Do you have challenges, Craig? Do you do a hot... But they rotate them?
Starting point is 00:43:01 Hot ones? I've been known every now and then to go to like a hot chicken place and get like the like Reaper flavor or like, you know, the one where you've got to sign the waiver. I've done that with my friends a few times. I also...
Starting point is 00:43:14 I had a really hot ghost pepper piece of chocolate once with my friend Chris. Worst decision I ever made. Ghost pepper chocolate? Wow. What? Yeah, I'll try. I ever made.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I was affected for, 48 hours because of that piece of chocolate. Oh, dude, yeah. Wait. Have you ever been in the hot chicken place? Yeah. You ever do the hot chicken in Nashville? No, I've actually never been to Nashville. Same. I've actually had it, but I've never been there. I've had it delivered. I know that's not the same. From Nashville? I have. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Wait, did you just say I've never been in Nashville and then say, well, I was in Nashville, but not at the place? No, I hosted a show with Joe House on the Ringer called, he does House of Carbs, but we did like an NFL playoff. food test thing. And so we had Goldbelly, this company that like delivers food all over the country, deliver Hattie B's hot chicken. So I've had it like that, but not actually in Nashville. All I'll say is I did a road trip through Nashville once, and Hattie B's, took an hour to eat and it added three hours to the trip.
Starting point is 00:44:13 That's all so. But I don't, I mean, I don't prefer it. I like hot things, but I don't understand. It's fun to try every once in a while if you're like an idiot. But in reality, I like things that are hot, but not painfully. hot. You don't want to go, like, I will go to the medium to hot level at a hot chicken place. I'm not going above hot.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Who's doing? I want to sweat a little bit, you know? Shout out Danny Chow. I ringer colleague, listener at the show. Yeah. All right. Got some emails. Emails. Got some from someone I'm going to like redact for their own sake.
Starting point is 00:44:47 It's about gentlemen's piss club. Sure. Trying to merge. We've got to get a focus group on this gentleman's piss club stuff because. So, By the way, somebody designed a shirt and it was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:44:58 So we're thinking about it. If anybody else has shirt designs and we'll pick the best one and we'll send you one or whatever. But somebody sent us one and it had Michelangelo's David on the back, peeing. So that's kind of the level you have to work at right now. That's kind of the bar is David Pee. Literally. Literally, that's the bar. That is the bar.
Starting point is 00:45:18 So for those who don't know, in addition to gentlemen's piss club, you know, the bar where you can pee everywhere. the, but in a cool way. Yeah. It's like how you can throw peanuts on the ground at some bars. Our bar, you're just pissing everywhere. It's like five guys. But we also, we work bankrupt, trying to get a shower, like people like have good ideas in the shower, like a co-working space, but you have all your ideas, creation meetings in the shower. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Anyway. So, so. I adore that idea. Even over Zoom, dude. Like if we, if we could like figure out how to put like cameras and showers, but it's like, neck up. We're all showering and on Zoom together? I would do that with you guys. Come on. Maybe just microphones
Starting point is 00:46:01 in the shower. Next up? Let's do it. That's the name. Next up. Well, no. The name someone sent in was WeWork, but it's just the two E's that we work because you can pee in the shower. So it's just We Work. Oh, that's good. I really like that. So someone emailed in and said, I listen to the show when I work out in the morning and normally it's smooth sailing.
Starting point is 00:46:24 but I was laughing to myself so hard during the we shower bit that while doing an inclined bench press with dumbbells when Craig said we wet I started laughing so hard I almost dropped 60 pounds of metal on my face. Do you say it like we wet or we wet? We wet.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I'm going to get sued by this guy. Can you imagine this guy like Tor is peck? I don't like the implication that we're normally not funny in this email. Well maybe the implication is that How often is he inclined Ben's pressing heavy weights? Normally, you guys, it's just like, have no reaction.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I would say don't listen to the email portion while Ben's pressing heavyweight. We wet. We wet. We wet. We wet. Welcome to we wet. What's the shower? Also, a lot of Taylor wrote an email on behalf of the people.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Taylor. After listening to Monday's episode, I would like Craig to further explain his rationale for not being in the shower, which is a mostly solo private exercise. but having the confidence and comfort to, quote, let it rip in a public pool, which is being used by other people while he peace. By the way, I re-listened to the final segment the other day. And I completely did not hear Craig said he'll let it rip in a public pool. I think we would have spent more time on that if I had heard that.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Okay. I have like four thoughts. Let me get through all of that. Let it rip. One, my first thought, this is the problem with having a podcast at the ringers. You say one thing and it becomes your personality. I didn't want to be like you can't pee in the shower guy I just don't personally do it
Starting point is 00:47:58 I have done it in the past I don't know why I don't like it I don't know if it's just like I think it's because if my wife found out she'd be like that's really gross and I think everybody at home is probably would agree with that and so I'm like look just be in the toilet
Starting point is 00:48:09 it's saying everybody is happy with that you're not pissing anybody off pun intended to that's not pissing in anyone's cereal the public pool thing first of all choose your words carefully first of all
Starting point is 00:48:23 I can't remember the last time I was in a public pool. First of all, public pools are still in the disgusting places. Exactly. I mean, let's be out. Let's just be honest here. No one gets in a public pool being like, you know what? This is a urine free zone. That is, that was my next point as I was like, if you're telling me that nobody else is
Starting point is 00:48:43 peeing in the public pool, I'll show you a liar. And look, I haven't been in a, I can't remember the last time I was in a public pool. There's no public pools in L.A. that I frequent. I don't know if I'd be peeing in it now. However, if the bathroom is a long walk away, I might. Let it rip. I have a question. Is the...
Starting point is 00:49:00 A lot of chlorine in those public pools? Is the chemical thing that's supposedly supposed to show when you're pissing in a public pool? I think that's a miss. I was going to say, is that like an urban legend to keep people from peeing in pools? Or is that a real thing? I think that's what dad would tell their kids. It's like, you don't want to be the one that like, you know, it's covered in the pink dye or whatever. You really robbed the bank
Starting point is 00:49:22 Let us know if that's real I'm pretty sure it's not Like I remember growing up my dad telling me like Oh if you pee Pandora's box here People are gonna be pissing in pools hard after this if we find out Dude people be pissing in pools
Starting point is 00:49:32 They just don't want to admit it Everybody's pissing in pools We work We wet People be pissing I know they are I don't care And we can't even do a poll
Starting point is 00:49:48 Because they'll be lying It's like picking your nose, dude. People pick their nose and people pee in public pools. People pee at public pools. It's a tongue-fitter. Well, I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy about the shower thing. So if I'm crazy about that and that's not gross to other people and if your partner's
Starting point is 00:50:10 okay with it, then I'm willing to eat that and be wrong about that. We also got an email from Matt. Matt. Matthew. Subject line of this email was pop-up piss club. Nice. Matt writes, what if your next live show is also a pop-up kiss club? You could rent out a 21-and-up pool in Las Vegas,
Starting point is 00:50:29 and you could use a resort pool, and that way everyone could pee freely. And you could also bring in portable urinals, you know, for men and women that could have targets. You know, there could be things that spin if you hit them, like, you know, like pinwheels or something you could piss on, or the gauges and levels, you can see how much you're peeing, clocks to see how long you're peeing.
Starting point is 00:50:46 And hell, maybe we even set up an area for people to run 40-yard dashes. and on stage we'll be sitting on toilets well I don't we that's the other thing you sit down when you peeke right that's the other thing we haven't even broached only when I'm home I don't care you just docks to me there but that's fine I know I'm sorry it's totally fine with it
Starting point is 00:51:06 I would have done it on the hottest take if the hottest take we're still around when I'm at home exclusively sit and pee when I'm out on the road exclusively stand it's a good take way better dude it's way better Closively standing.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Again, if you have a partner, you don't have to worry about spillards when you're sitting. Middle the night and it's dark, you sit. Plus, you can pop out the old phone. The lights at night, it's a huge, that's a huge, yeah. Yeah, so I stand by it. I endorse sitting and peeing. Also, you also said an important thing, which is being on your phone is, I mean, are you guys on your phone when you're peeing? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Unless I'm in a hurry, but yeah. I saw a recent study. men with kids. They spent, they spend like, I don't even know what it is, like several hours a day in the bathroom, just like trying to hide and get some peace and quiet.
Starting point is 00:51:56 That's the, this is 40 joke, Paul Red. It's like, this is 40. But it's like actually true. And I can, I actually would agree with that,
Starting point is 00:52:03 especially in my house, because the heat register in the bathroom of my house is like directly above our furnace. And so it's like by far the most powerful, like, heat register in our house. And so it's always like nice and dusty in our bathroom. I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:52:16 sitting in there. It's like, it's like really warm, especially compared to the rest of our old house. It's like the most comfortable room in the house. I will absolutely spend extra time in the bathroom to like finish watching a game or something or a play. I fully endorse that as well. I'm telling you, the bathroom is the key. We just need to be in the bathroom more. People forget there is a, in the bathroom more. People forget there's a real idea behind this bar. People forget. Craig feels passionately about this. We need to be in the bathroom more. Anyway, speaking of our bathroom bar, we also get emails about food, which go hand in hand. Nice.
Starting point is 00:52:51 So to speak. Speaking of food, Kai, check in. Kai will be eating a Kiwi soon. We got an email about other emails from Matt, and I'm sorry, I lost someone's name, but that someone said, eat the skin. My cousin's a doctor put me on this. The skin is thinner than an apple. You don't even notice the fuzz at all, and it's full of nutrients.
Starting point is 00:53:06 I'll never waste time peeling the skin or digging out the flesh of a key with a spoon ever again. To which I read that, and I literally was just like, you don't notice the skin on a kiwi if you eat the skin. Not if you slice it thinly, you don't. Wow. Okay. Do like little like, you know how like you slice like a apple and really thin slices and eat those? Like just do that with the Kiwi. Matt,
Starting point is 00:53:27 Matt wrote an email six months ago with the Will Leva stuff and Will Leva Cidabon with the peel that was a whole passionate argument for eating the peels of fruit because that's where a lot of the vitamins are. Same with potatoes, right? Potatoes, if you have a baked potato, you should eat the skin. I've always eaten the potato skin. Yeah. Well, that's different because that's like, that's grosser. Why is that grosser? Potato skins are literally a food.
Starting point is 00:53:46 You can order a bar. Potato skins are good. No, I'll eat. Yeah, that's true. But I, all right, that's fair. I was thinking about them raw. What I was going to say, though, this made me think of is high fits when we mentioned eating the skin of a kiwi, you're like, oh, no, it's full of toxins.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I don't know. I don't know anything about food anymore. I feel like I can't. That's an it's so he's sunny bit that I was hoping one of you'd get. But there's an entire, it's always sunny bit that apples are extremely poisonous. My contention more is just that there's so much conflicting information out there about everything these days. I don't actually know what's true. Because like I feel like I can't eat vegetables without thinking, oh, did I just get rid of all the nutrients in this vegetable? I don't even
Starting point is 00:54:22 know how to eat a vegetable while also getting nutrients. You know what I mean? Do you juice it? Do you blend it? You need to eat it raw. Can you cook it? Right. Exactly. It's a ton. Also, speaking of cooking stuff, I feel like, do you guys ever notice like our parents' duration? Your parents should like the boomers do you eat vegetables because I feel like the boomers, like their boomers parents just boiled vegetables and was like, here's some Brussels sprouts and they all just are like vegetables are terrible like the Al Michael stuff and now we don't cook vegetables and yeah I mean it's funny growing up were you guys forced to eat vegetables yeah yeah but then now I feel like I forced my parents eat vegetables I'm like hey you don't have to
Starting point is 00:54:55 boil brussels they can be crispy I know I know my dad said that he used to like hide the peas under his plate like he would line his plate with peas and then asked they were boiled excused yeah that was my trick in like elementary school or something like that like really early is like they would inspect your plate before he could get up and leave at the school I was at. So like if you kind of spread things out and like, oh yeah. You know, like. It's a classic move. Move shit around.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Yeah, move shit around and spread it out. It looks like you ate most of it. Yeah, yeah. That was my trick. You spill a little bit. Right. So we got an email on the snow. I got an email from Elijah.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Elijah. It's like I was eating a kiwi with a spoon at work last week. My coworker told me I was eating it wrong. And she claimed that the best way to eat a kiwi is to peel it with a potato peeler, using an apple slice or cut it in the smaller chunks. I then told her the only way to eat to Kiwi is to go full Will Levis, eat it with the skin on.
Starting point is 00:55:50 She gave me a weird look and asked who is Will Levis? I then explain the connection between Will Levis eating peeled bananas, unpeeled bananas, etc. etc. Anyway, today I found out that that person quit. This guy's keep talking to me about Will Levis. Eating a kiwi with a spoon is a move.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Also, this woman recommended first peeling it with the potato peeler and then using an apple. So you need two utensils to eat a kiwis. So much equipment. That's a lot of work. And then, yeah, last year, I just speaking of fruits and veggies, D.K. was talking about butter on Pop-Tarts. Yeah. Did you guys, thank you to multiple people email this.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Did you know that there's an entire family guy song just about putting butter on Pop-Tarts? I did not. I didn't know this either, but it's amazing. An entire whole song. It's an earworm. It's an earworm song, so just be warned. It's a good song. It's like heartfelt.
Starting point is 00:56:54 I know. I was like humming it all morning. Have you ever put butter on a Pop-Tart? It's so freaking good. Have you ever put butter on a pop-trap? If you haven't been, I think you should. Clearly this person in the family guy writer's room said they put butter and pop tarts
Starting point is 00:57:13 and they were made fun of and they just wrote this song. So they lived my experience from the last podcast. TK. Yes. Were there particular flavors that you would butter? Or did it not matter? No, I think I would do it all. And I think someone mentioned,
Starting point is 00:57:27 like, you only butter the ones that don't have like the frosting on it, which that is, in my experience, I'll put butter on anything. I'll do butter on cinnamon ones, the strawberry ones. You know, I'll do that. I'll do whatever. Have you ever put butter on a pop tart? It's so freaking good.
Starting point is 00:57:44 You ever put butter on a pop tart? If you have it, then I think you should. Oh, maybe I have heard that. Is that the song? It's like, the song is like, I don't want a giant penis or a rocket ship to Venus. I don't want to win the lottery. I just want to squat and gobble till I'm dizzy and I wobble in a butter, fruit, and dough tart dream. I feel like they're making fun of me.
Starting point is 00:58:03 How rude. Family guys? But I honestly think Somebody mentioned on Twitter It's like a generational thing I think it is like people Probably Well isn't Seth McFarland
Starting point is 00:58:14 Isn't he about my age anyway It's something like 40s I think he's a little older Yeah I think it would probably people like 35 to 50 He's 50 Yeah He's 50
Starting point is 00:58:24 He doesn't look 50 Good for him Well He's a size of cow will look 60 But yeah exactly There's no yeah No one's ugly You're just
Starting point is 00:58:31 Pop tarts are such a food That like that I loved as a kid I don't eat anymore. What, like, what foods were you guys huge fans of when you were young that you just don't eat anymore? Mine is cereal. Man, I used to eat like Captain Crunch, all that stuff. I would love cereal.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Like three different kinds of cereal together and eat like two giant bowls. If I did that now, I would go into a food coma. I never eat cereal. It's a child and it's wild that we let kids eat cereal. This is like the Calvin and Hobbs. Like his cereal is chocolate frosted sugar bombs. I'm just like, oh my God. Serial is the most baffling.
Starting point is 00:59:01 I can't believe they trick people into thinking that's a breakfast fit. That's healthy. It blows my mind. There's a cereal called cookie crisp, and it's just a bowl of chips a hoy essentially. It's milk and cookies. And they're like, what if we had smaller milk and cookies had made that breakfast? It's just the package. This is how marketing works.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Reese's puffs? Come on. Yeah. Just a candy brand. Has ever gone to the supermarket aisle and just stared at the cereal? Yeah. Like the colors. Oh, I love cereal.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I love cereal. It's so good, but it makes me feel like hell now. And all the most colorful box. are on the bottom so the kids can grab them. Fricken, we're just being manipulated at all times. That's how advertising works. Yeah. Yeah. Pizza rolls.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Oh, sure. I was pizza bagel guy. Yeah. I did those two. Yeah, I don't need any of that anymore. Email, so we're in fantasy football at gmail.com. We've thoughts on cereal, pizza bagels, vegetables. What else were you talking about?
Starting point is 00:59:55 It was weird. Butter and Pop-Tarts. So, no, I don't really do that anymore. Ooh, Cheetos. Those are good. Yeah. Remember the bugles? things that you put on your fingers. Sure.
Starting point is 01:00:07 That's for the best. What? What are you talking about? They would fit on your fingertips like little... They were shaped like little cones. Cylenders. Like little witch's hats and you'd put them on your fingers.
Starting point is 01:00:20 I've never seen these. Are bugles still a thing? Do they still sell them? Are they still in the house? I don't know how I've got my whole life without encountering this. Most underrated chip in the game. Barbecue twisted Fritos. Oh, I would go with a...
Starting point is 01:00:34 the Hawaiian barbecue chip, like the spicy Hawaiian, I can't remember the name of the brand. I know you're talking about the pink purple bag. Yes, the orange bag. Well, both of them. Oh, orange bag, right. The Maui onion. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Those are the bomb. They got flammat hot chita puffs now. I'm telling you, if you're at the supermarket listening to this right now and you see a bag of honey barbecue fritos, twists. Buy them. Email, so if you do that. Free tip. Send us a picture at ringing fantasy football at g-gmill.com.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Correct. Look, free ads, baby. We're on to something here. There's something there. All right. We're leaving. Almost said goodbye, everyone, but we haven't even ended up to the show. Thank you, Craig.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Thank you, Kai, for producing this episode. Thank you, Jack. Thank you, Tucker. Thank you, Lord. Lauren. Thank you, foo fighters. My cat left. The food fighters.
Starting point is 01:01:24 That's like my wife left. My cat left. My cat left. He's like crestfallen. He's never been sadder. How many times the food fighters got a host? the music festival or be on SNL. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:01:36 Like, we get it. We know what they are. I'm not going to lie. I didn't realize how popular they were. Dude, they're everywhere. Once a year they host SNL. SNL used to be like up-and-coming artists. And now it's like 53-year-old Dave Grohl.
Starting point is 01:01:48 It's like, we know. We know what the food fighters are. They don't need to host Coachella again. They have one look. They have one sound. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Hydefitz, do you know a single person who's like, I love the food fighters?
Starting point is 01:02:01 Well, I feel like there's just a huge gap of the 80. of people I know because I just like again Rage Against the Machine I just then realized that I know Rage obviously is very popular just didn't realize that they were you know like the biggest band and yeah people would like based Western Hemisphere on yes against the machine yeah that's a great call though they're another like
Starting point is 01:02:18 constant Coachella headliner anyway no I'm not trying to besmirate food fighters never I've no you are and I think you should oh you do yeah I was never a foodfighter's guy well it's like whatever you know they had some big songs
Starting point is 01:02:34 but it's like we kind of, we get it. They don't need to be... Just heavy sigh. We get it. Craig went on the hottest take and said, I think we should consider cannibalism, and this is the one that's going to take him down. Yeah, I know. People are going to...
Starting point is 01:02:49 Altruistic cannibalism. To be clear. We're not killing to people. It's to solve world hunger. You forgot that part. Marketing. Craig. Marketing.
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