The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking the Rookie Fantasy Players for 2022

Episode Date: May 5, 2022

Welcome back to 'The Ringer Fantasy Football Show'! We kick off the 2022 fantasy football season with an edition of ‘Power Hour’, where we power rank our top 10 rookies heading into the 2022 fantasy football season. We finish the show with another case of Fantasy Court. (2:08) — Power Hour (32:45) — Dynasty Favorites (48:54) — Fantasy Court Check out The Ringer’s 2022 NFL Draft Guide Email us! [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Yo, Rob Harvilla from 60 Songs That Explain the 90s here to inform you that we are back with 30 more songs because the 90s were super long and had a ton of rad music. Please join us every Wednesday for more 60 songs that explain the 90s only on Spotify. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Heifis and I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Quirlebeck. Guess who's back, baby? Please don't sue. Don't sue us. Please don't sue.

Don't sue us. We are once again the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. We did a... We're a brief... Sorry. We're back in. A little brief off-season sojourn

as the Ringer NFL draft show. But now we are back as the fantasy football show. We're back. We've got a lot to talk about. For everyone who patiently waited for us to dive into fantasy, we're going to go on all fantasy today. We're going to do a little power hour about all the rookies for this season for 2022.

And then we're going to go into Dynasty. We're going to a little Dynasty explainer for the people who do play dynasty, we're going to give you what the sales pitch should be to your friends. And if you don't play Dynasty, we're going to tell you why you should and why it's fun. Ultimately, it's because it just extends your fantasy group chat year round, which is really something we all wish would happen. Yeah, so we're going to lean on D.K. because he hasn't been busy enough these past three months. We figured what's one more. So yeah, we're doing redraft Dynasty Power Hour today. And then we'll be back next week as well. And then we're going to go on our own little

vacation because it's May in June. And, you know, that's the one time of the year where the NFL hasn't taken over just yet. But next week will be fun. We got Dynasty rankings coming out. We got our preliminary top 200 redraft rankings coming out. So a lot of stuff. The fantasy guide. It's coming out early this year. Yeah. So it's going to be sweet. It's going to be great. Check that out next week. We got a lot coming for you. So we're right now, we're going to do power hour. Again, DK is going to give us his top 10 rookies that he power ranked for this year's leagues for For redraft. Yeah.

And it's very simple. If you haven't done power hour with us before, when you hear this sound, we're going to move on to a new topic. Shout out Tom Tom. Don't disrespect the Tom. We're all a little rusty. I don't think we've done this since a little pre-Christmas episode of December. So we're actually going to try to respect the Tom Tom today for once in our lives.

And we're going to respect the timer. So without further ado, let's just get into it right now. The top 10 rookies for redraft leagues this season. Craig, you want to start the timer? Let's do it, starting now. Take us away, D.K. All right. Number one, wide receiver, Drake, London, Falcons.

The eighth overall pick of the NFL draft. Here's my pitch. The Falcons, number one receiver before Drake London came in, Alamede Zakias. That's all. That's all I got. So before he was the number one pick, how many teams would Alamede Zikaas even make in the NFL?

I feel like he would be caught from at least eight. No disrespect because he has flashed here and there. But he would be a fifth or sixth receiver on some teams potentially. But yeah, I mean, I think number one, you're going into a situation with the Falcons where he doesn't really have any competition for targets early in his career. Kyle Pitts. Obviously, what's that?

Kyle Pitts. Well, Kyle Pitts. Certainly he's the number one. At the tight end position. But I'm talking about like the receiver group. Like he could move to the top of the receiver hierarchy like almost immediately. So that's, you know, different than most of the other rookies in this class.

Importantly, he also has like the size, talent, skill set, all that stuff to be contributor early on. Do you think that I kind of, when I was thinking about Drake London's rookie season this year, I kind of thought about like DJ Moore and Terry McLaren where it's like guys who just became the number ones, but they kind of have shaky quarterback play. They're not really on a good team, but they just kind of get like, they get the volume and it might not be the prettiest, but they're probably like, you know, I looked at DJ Moore and McLaren's rookie years and they both had around like, you know, 800 yards and six

touchdowns. And like, that to me kind of seems like what Drake London might do as worst case scenario. Yeah, and I don't know. I'm not necessarily like projecting him to have like a Justin Jefferson style rookie year. But I think in general, this receiver class, with all the landing spots taken into account, like he just to me looks like the most clear cut early contributor, early fantasy relevant rookie. Just because of number one, like I said, he was really highly drafted. That's important. That's always going to be important for.

getting playing time and and targets and all that stuff. But yeah, I think just expectations should be a little bit lower. This is not the Justin Jefferson class. Boom. Tom Tom. Orge March. Yeah. You had to get the origin march ace in right before the top, right after the Tom Tom. Just a little shot at Tom Tom, a little jab.

Just warming up. All right. Who's next? Number two, Traylon Burks, wide receiver for the Titans. Same style situation here. We got a guy who is a mid first round pick. I think he was 16th or 18th overall. 18th overall, I believe.

And he's coming in and potentially going to be the number one receiver or 1A1B with Robert Woods whenever Robert Woods gets back. But again, Robert Woods is coming off an ACL injury. So Trelin-Burks is facing very little competition for targets early in his career. I think he's going to be utilized in and around the line of scrimmage, manufactured touches, things like that. Like that'll translate to fantasy production. I think he's got that big play potential too.

So, you know, the other thing is nice is he has a better quarterback, at least in theory, than Drake London does in Ryan Taneyhill. So that's another thing to keep in mind. I guess my question is why is he not above Drake London? I think because London is more polished as a receiver. As a route runner, he's just a little bit more, you know, like mature is not the right word. Like mature as a route runner, mature as a receiver,

polished as receiver. Berks does not a very good route runner. And so he's going to have to take a little bit of time to develop. And also he might be in an offense that's very run heavy and sort of like volume will be. hit or miss, any given week. So that was B. Why I put Traclin a little bit higher. So A.J. Brown had a thousand and fifty yards and eight touchdowns, his rookie year.

And obviously, Trayland Berks is coming in to basically replace him. Do you think that's possible or what you just said about, like, Trayland Berks being a little unpolished? Yeah, it's possible, but I wouldn't. And that was only on 52 catches. So he really had just like a lot of big boom bucks, like over the middle. Yeah. Yeah, like take a slant and run it in for a touchdown.

And that's honestly, like, Berks could do that kind of thing. I would not project that type of superstar breakout for Birx, but I do think overall he has that type of skill set. And again, like I said, he's going into it. This receiver core for the Titans is like bare bones right now. I just kind of feel like I'm going to be out on Trail in Berks this year in just like 2022 leagues. I mean, I just feel like it's just two one for one. Oh, yeah, he'll be like AJ Brown.

It's like, oh, well, I don't know. I feel like he probably won't. Okay, so number three, Dick, who's your number three rookie for this year? Number three, running back, Breeze Hall. finally. I thought he was going to be number one. Volume is king. We got to talk about this, DK. What are these rankings? Are this like, are these

the order you would rank these players in your rankings when we release them? Like you would have Drake London ranked ahead of Breece Hall? Probably, yeah. Wow. Really? So, well, it depends because you're, Breece Hall going into an offense, which is not going to be very good in all likelihood. We don't know exactly

how things are going to be split up between him and Michael Carter. Maybe they rely a little bit more on Michael Carter as like a pass catcher early on. I think his usage is just kind of a question mark. We're going to run into a situation similar to potentially like Giovante Williams last year where the usage is a little bit frustrating week in and week out. You're going to a team that's not very good, not going to score a ton of points. So I'm just slightly tempering my expectations of the priest.

I think he's really good. I think he's going to have eventually down the stretch probably a big chunk of the workload. But I'm just tempering my expectations very early in the season. So that could be frustrating. And I disagree with you. I agree in that I think that Breece Hall is probably going to be overrated this year. And I don't think I'll have a lot of Breece Hall. Like I don't really want a bunch of this Jets offense.

It was the worst defense in the NFL last year. They're probably going to, I don't see them running a lot. I don't see them having a great offense. And we don't know that Breece Hall is going to how much of the work little have from Michael Carter, et cetera. But I also do feel like Breeze Hall will be the highest drafted of these rookies. And I'm like kind of confident about that. So I'm surprised that he's third for you.

But I also agree on being out on him. I agree. I think he probably will be the highest drafted. And his ADP will probably be the highest. but I do, like I said, just to kind of worry a little bit about the usage, just the team. Yeah, it's the Jets.

Being out on the Jets is usually smart. He would be my number one unequivocal, and we'll get into Dynasty later, but he's my number one picking Dynasty rookie drafts. But this year only, a little bit like just tempering my expectations. Okay. All right, who's number four?

We are really cooking right now. Woo. We're cooking with gas. All right, number four. And this is where it gets really murky for me. Chris Olav. I completely agree. The next four people,

you could convince me going anywhere. Chris Olave from the Saints. If you really look at what the Saints gave up to get Chris Olave on their team, it's kind of incredible. They gave up like multiple future picks plus like a couple of picks in the 2022 draft. They gave away like the pick that became

AJ Brown and like 10 other things. Yeah, it was ridiculous. And so I think that they're going to be number one, very motivated to play him. He's going to come into an offense that, again, competition for targets. He's probably going to be the number two, de facto number two receiver behind Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas, again, a bit of a question mark heading into the season.

You know, he kind of always is. And so there's a world where he's the number one receiver for the Saints and James Winston. So their volume could be there. But there's a lot of uncertainty there, of course. We don't know exactly how healthy James Winston's going to be. We don't know if this offense is going to be great. We don't know exactly how much volume he's going to get. But I think he is the most polished of this next tier of receivers. Great route running. very dangerous deep threat. He had like a million touchdowns in college. I think he set the Ohio State record for touchdowns in his career.

You said Olavi's the most polished of this group. I feel like he's the most polished of all these rookie receivers, period. Yeah. I mean, I feel like by a lot. Yeah, let me rephrase that. I agree. Yeah, he is. I almost feel like if Chris Olavi had the best rookie season of these guys,

I wouldn't be surprised. The only thing holding him back, I feel like is the Saints kind of maybe being more of a ground and pound team. Now I don't really know what to think about the Saints and James Winston. I can see it going so many different ways for them. Yeah. And like, if you look back when James was. starting. They were a slow, methodical offense. It's not like this is a high-octane pass

the ball over-over-the-yard type of deal. They were like basically trying to mitigate James Winston for not turn it over. Yeah, they ran the James don't screw up offense. And the other thing that worries me just slightly with Olave and the reason I don't project him to be the best rookie receiver, though it's like it certainly wouldn't be the wildest thing ever. But like he's a zero after the catch. Like he offers absolutely nothing after the catch. Olave? Yeah, but that's like really relative, right? Like, I mean, he's still like an extremely athletic, good wide receiver in the NFL. What do you mean he's a zero? He can't run after the head. He broke like he was like third or fourth worst in NCAA in like

Mistackles Force. Yeah, but he's always wide open because he burns everybody. Well, maybe, but he's a catch and fall down receiver is kind of what I'm saying. Like he makes Zach Earts, he makes Zach Earts look elusive after the catch. No, really? Oh, whoa, whoa. Oh, for sure. How has this never come up? Go fucking what, go look at the stats. Go watch the tape and tell me I'm wrong. I don't, you guys like, I'm not giving me shit. I'm not. Wow, Fice D. Hines with a check the tape. Episode one of the fantasy show.

Why don't you put on the fucking tape? Yeah. DK's a check the tape guy. More importantly, just go look at the stats. Like he does not force tackles. Can you compare him? I don't, I don't respect the Zach Ertz comparison

because Zach Ertz is like a 240 pound tight net. Give me another receiver who's relatively his size who kind of compares in terms of lack of yards after the catchability. That's a great question. Can you give me any examples? I don't know off the top of my head.

Keenan Allen No Keenan Allen I think is much more elusive After the catch A lot of you run a 4-3940 And if you're saying anything that under 4-4 Is not elusive as a person I genuinely want to try to understand here What we mean by elusive

Are you saying that He has a catches and goes down Negative play strength He doesn't have good instincts After when he has the ball on his hand In terms of evading trackless Is it about the decision making He can't make people miss

Or when he gets touched he falls The second Oh so he's soft. Well, you said it. Wow. How did we just do the draft show for three months and we never talked about? Why are you guys so, like, shocked about what I'm saying?

Like, is there something unbelievable what I'm saying? Like, do you think he's really physical? I'm very confused about this line of questioning. It's kind of like saying an unathletic tight end. Like, we say so many receivers are good after the catch. To just say someone's terrible after the catch, but they're not like a big receiver. It's just weird to hear. Right.

Like, he's like, what is he, like, six foot 190? and he's just not good after the catch and he runs a 4-3. I just, it's just weird. Yeah, I just kind of assume anyone who run a 4-3-9 is good after the catch. Well, he's not.

Like even a little. All right, well, he's maybe like the worst at it. Well, then let's talk about Garrett Wilson. I'm not saying he's bad. I'm not saying he's bad, to be clear. I'm just saying he gives you zero in that part of the game. I just can't believe all this.

Because Solac loved Olive so much more and you love Garrett Wilson so much more. I'm just surprised that you never dropped this bomb on Solac. Yeah, Garrett Wilson is like, unpolished. He's frenetic a little bit as a rot runner. But you have a lave four. Where's Garrett Wilson? I got him at five. Okay. So I'm going to start the clock. Is that because the Jets suck? Yes. Here's my argument. I don't believe in Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson is the quarterback. I don't believe, but we got to be clear here. Like the Jets are doubling

down on their offense. Like Joe Douglas, they've got all these, you know, they added Garrett Wilson. Obviously, they've added people the last couple of years. I just don't really think Zach Wilson's going to be a great quarter. Maybe I'll be completely wrong. Maybe he'll be intranial. But you're kind of on that board too, right, D.K.? Well, I wasn't a big believer when he came in. I do think, so look, I wasn't a big believer when Zach Wilson came into the NFL. His rookie year was...

His rookie year was freaking terrible. And, you know, that, generally speaking is like a good sign that this guy's not going to be great in his career. However, I really like what the Jets have done to surround him with talent, and so that does give me hope. And so, like, if you're going to ask me right now, whether I think Wilsonson's, Zach Wilson's going to be a success in the NFL,

I would lean more towards yes, because they're doing the right thing, building around him, giving him a lot of weapons, Zach Wilson, or sorry, Garrett Wilson, Elijah Moore last year. They still have Corey Davis. They got two good running backs now. I think everything around him is good. And so with Garrett Wilson, is Garrett Wilson's yards after the catch make you optimistic, even though Zach Wilson might not be great. It's not going to be hard to get Garrett Wilson the ball in space and let him create.

Yeah, but also the volume won't be there perhaps as much as maybe something like Chris Elava because, like you just said, Elijah Moore, Corey Davis, Braxton Berrios is still there. The two running backs. He's just not going to get as many targets. Not to mention they signed C.G.U. Zama in for agency. And they added another, I mean, they added two. Conklin, too, I think who's going to be involved.

To me, it's just like, I think we'll see a lot of the volume go to Elijah Moore because he's going to have a second year breakout. I think that Garrett Wilson's going to show a lot of flashes. But he could have a little bit longer learning curve or whatever in the NFL because, you know, he's a little bit less polished than a guy like Olive. And, yeah, just like the target competition is a lot greater in New York. And I don't think they're going to be like a particularly. great offense this year,

score a lot of points and all that stuff. So it's going to be probably a little bit frustrating. So Garrett Wilson stylistically, actually just thought, I'm sure other people have made the comp, but he a little bit reminds me of Brandon Ayuk, just like the style of athlete he is. I have a brief aside.

I apologize, Tom Tom. We're only five in. We've disrespected Tom Tom, twice. We're back. Now we're back. Now we're back. Don't get sued.

Zach Wilson is like super ripped now. He looks like he's training to be in a Marvel movie. He looks like, like Camille Nanjiani before or he looks like the after picture of Camel Manjiani. Yes. And here's my take. I just is my gut reaction when I saw it.

I don't like when quarterbacks are like super, get super jacked. I actually don't think that's good. Yeah, but he was like skinny. There's a lot of skinny quarterbacks who are very good. I was actually just looking, yeah, I was just looking at a picture of Tom Brady on the golf course. That guy is, he doesn't have like an ounce of fat on his body. All of the best quarterbacks are kind of flabby.

I don't like it when a quarterback looks like a superhero. To me, Mac Jones just tubular. Yeah. Yeah. When have you ever heard it? Like to me, it's like flexibility and timing and mobility.

And that's what's important. It's like when you're just like a giant meat stick unnaturally, like there are some people who are naturally jacked, that's totally fine. But when you just like toss on the weight and stack the pounds of meat on your legs and your ass and stuff, I just, I don't like that. And your shoulders, your arms, I'm not into it. Interesting. Interesting.

Okay. Not into. So do you like D.K. MacGaf or no? He's naturally that way, though. Not naturally, but like... Born like that? He doesn't even work out. I mean, he's incredibly gifted

and he has an incredible work ethic, which is like the perfect combination. But like, Zach Wilson just stacking on 15 pounds of muscle. I'm not like, oh, now he's going to be better. They're also different positions. And Craig's point is quarterbacks who are like super ripped and jacked.

Like, it's true. Like, if you look around the NFL, everybody is just kind of like a skinny guy. Like, there are a few exceptions. Yeah, there's like Cam Newton, Who's enormous? If Zach Wilson's good, we're going to be like, wow, got ripped. We should have known.

If he sucks, we're like, wow, maybe he should have spent more time practicing. You know what I mean? It's, yeah. Like, no one was ever like, Tim Tebow's so ripped. That's why, that'll help. I think that the real boring answer is it's probably reaction to his first year playing NFL football and realizing he's not strong enough. Yeah, he got hurt a lot.

bulk up, I guess, but I'm not, I'm not. Okay. Dek, give us your next one. So top five to recap, you got Drake London for the Falcons, Trayland Burks for the Titans, running back, Breeze Hall for the Jets, which surprised me. Crystal Lobby for the Saints, Garrett Wilson for the Jets. Also, you having Olave had a Wilson surprises me.

Who's your number six? Again, to be clear out Alave, I think he's going to be productive. I just don't think he offers anything as a runner-off to catch creator. That's all. My next guy is Sky Moore from the Chiefs, who is a pretty good runoff to catch creator. He's very quick off the line, big hands, very good catcher of the football, separates early. I think he basically answers a lot of the questions that the Chiefs have in terms of short intermediate area, beating cover two stuff, giving like Patrick Mahom sort of an easy option early on

to like start moving the chains. Basically like he's the antithesis of like a Marcus Valda Scantling who is just going to be stretching the field deep and probably not seeing a ton of targets this year. So I don't know. Obviously there's some target competition now with Juju in there. Marcus Valdas Scantling. Obviously Kelsey is the number one. That's going to be the number one like, oh right, I forgot that that happened that people think about in July. Skymore and Juju could be a little bit redundant. We'll see how it all works out. But I don't know.

I want a guy who's really fast and elusive and has yards up to catchability in the Patrick Pohm's offense. Like that's the idea. He could end up being a little bit like frustrating week in and week out. But I think he's like, he is again. Also, he's like the antithesis of Michael Hardman where he's like a good route runner. He's like reliable. He's where he needs to be at the right time.

You know, he gets off the line of scrimmage. You create separation, all that stuff. He catches the ball. So I'm just kind of excited to see how he does this year. I think he has an important question for you. Because, you know, Skymore, it's two wise in Sky. Very cool name. Huge.

Kansas City Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes. Cool. Sky Moore, Patrick Mahomes. Question for you. Let's say Sky Moore hypothetically was named, I don't know, Robert Woods. How excited would you be for this cool rookie Robert Woods to be in the Chiefs? Because I'm a little worried that Sky Moore half the appeal is his name is Sky Moore. Great question.

Yeah. I mean, I probably, he'd probably be like number seven or eight. on this list instead of six. I appreciate your choice. Drop him down a spot or two. But look, hey, you look good, you feel good, you play good. Add in like name, name good, feel good, play good. Transfer the job you want.

Name your son for the job you want him to have. Nomitive determination. Determinization. What is it called? Determinism. Just name it whatever you want. Determinism. It'll become that.

Right. All right. Who's number seven for you, D.K.? All right. And this one is a, this one's like controversial, but I'm going Kenneth Walker for this this, Yox. who um what okay so this is why it's controversial hyphitz doesn't believe that i even fucking mentioned a second round running back on a hub run heavy team with no quarterback go ahead hyphus what do you got

i'm just am i not allowed to be surprised to me dk he seems redundant to seattle he's like a early down running back who doesn't pass block much and they just re-signed rashad penny i i guess chrisons hurt, but like, is he going to get over 10 carries a game once if everyone's healthy? I think so. I think it's like, he's not going to be the like heavy workload 20 carries a game time of guy. I think they're going to split reps with him and Penny. So the reason I'm excited about Walker, in addition to the fact that I think the CX are going to run a lot, want to get him established, a lot of people make the connection to like how Rashad Penny like took forever to get into the CX offense and like got beat out by a seventh round rookie in Chris Carson and

never really established himself. It also got hurt every year, but yeah. That's what I'm saying. That was going to be what I said next. Like, Rashad Penny broke his hand in his rookie minicamp, set him back like a few months. He came back in like overweight. It was

just like this cascading series of events that just completely fucked over Rashad Penny's like first few seasons in the league. And he finally got healthy. He finally started looking at then he tore his ACL and then it set him back again. So this is insurance when Chris Carson and Rashad Penny inevitably get hurt. Chris Carson, by the way,

I don't think Chris Carson is going to be on the Seahawks here, or at least not on the field. So that's also a part of this assumption. I think it's going to be Walker and Penny. Well, that's actually why I'm surprised by this. I kind of feel like he should be higher than Skymore. I think he should be higher. So now you think he should be higher. Yeah.

God damn it. Let's put him at six then. Let's do it. Skymore, move him down. If Skymore was named Kenneth Walker, he'd be way lower. And if Kenneth Moore was named Skymore, if Kenneth Walker was named Skymore, if Kenneth Walker was named Skymore, is number one on your list. Am I right?

Look, Tom Tom. He's interrupting this, but I want to keep it going. Save by the Tom Tom. Oh, okay. No, but actually, I think, Hyphids, you are, in my mind, sort of the avatar for a lot of what a lot of fantasy analysts are talking about right now, which is a lot of people don't really believe in Kenneth Walker this year and or in dynasty. Like, he's like, obviously, I think long term he has some potential,

but a lot of people are very worried about the Cioxs, very worried about the offense, worried about the fact that Rashop Penny is, quote-unquote, the lead back there. And so there's widely, widely varying opinions on Walker. So your arguments are actually working well. Well, I think that, yeah, I think I could see Kenneth Walker going with like the 80th pick in a draft because people think he takes the job from Rashad Penny. I could see him going, some people might think he should go undraft and he'll be like this unbelievable waiver pick when Rashad Penny gets hurt. But realistically, when you actually make your draft, I feel like he'll go in like, I don't know, a hundredth.

Seems like a perfectly fine 100th pick. Right. Yeah. So I don't know. Again, it is a controversial take. And I just tend to believe, like, you can't really look at the Rashad Penny career arc as like precedent. I don't think it's controversial. I think that I think I think the part I actually disagree with is do you think you would be drafting Olave Garrett Wilson, Skymore over Kenneth Walker? That's a very good question. Let's just say this isn't an ordered list. This is the 10 most meaningful rookie picks. It kind of goes against the term power ranking. Power hour, power rank. This is soft power from. D.K.' Dude, it's fucking May.

It's May. It's May. Don't worry about it. It's May, bro. Relax. But I don't know. The funny thing is, like, you, Hyfitz, I feel like midway through this argument, at first you were like, oh, you're fucking crazy.

Why is Kenneth Walker on this list? And now you're like, wait, why is he not higher? How could he not be higher? I mean, I think I'm going to let DK's rankings stand. We'll go with the soft power. I think realistic, if we're being realistic here, breeze hall is going to be the number one.

running back off the boards out of this list. And then I think... I don't know, though. I kind of don't know. We'll see. The number one running back? You think it could be Kenneth Walker? I think he's number one player.

Forget running back. I think, I think, Breeze Hall will definitely be the number one running back of these players. Number one player. Who you got next? Who's eight? Okay, I got James Cook from the Bills next. Who I think is a very intriguing pick here because he is a little undersized.

I think he's like 5-11-199 or something like that. so he doesn't bring like the lead back, foundation back size. But I think the bill took him in the second round, I think they could really end up having a big role for this guy as a past catcher too. They have Singletary and they also have Zach Moss. So who's, it's going to be a three-headed monster disaster? Do you think Zach Moss is on the way out? Zach Moss is fucking off the radar at this point until further notice.

They also signed Duke Johnson, but probably nothing there. What I think is they don't trust either Zach Moss. or Singletary, and I think basically they're going to give James Cook a chance to really kind of grab a whole his job. I don't think he's going to be a foundation back. I don't think he's going to get 25 carries a game or 20 carries a game. But you might get five, six carries and five or six targets a game and turning those touches into like valuable yardage and production. I think like this guy could potentially be a pretty good fantasy option this year, maybe like an RB2 or a flex type guy. So, but that's a big question mark is because like what kind of volume is getting get? Is he going

get like two or three targets a game and just be completely frustrating and useless. There's a world where I could see that happen in an offense where Josh Allen is kind of like, you know, not really dumping off a lot and taking off. But like it does seem to me like the bills have tried to have this type of player in their offense, but Singletary has rocks for hands. You can't catch the football. Zach Moss, same deal. And they basically, they tried to sign J.D. McKissick in the offseason. J.D. McKissick switched to last minute. And I'm not saying, I think James Cook has the potential to be like J.D. McKissick, like, you know, supercharged. Yeah, like a much more talented version of J.D. McKissick. I kind of like that. I mean, James Cook has never had more

than 12 carries in a game in college, so that kind of checks out that he's like kind of this hybrid type situation. But you're right. You mentioning the McKissick thing that they didn't get him and they wanted to is interesting and makes you kind of excited for James Cook. To tell you the truth, I don't think that makes me excited for him as for this year. I think that makes it more of a dynasty guy. Yeah, probably true. But I don't know. Only because James Cook. Eddie McKissick had 36 catches in his first, like, three seasons. True, but sometimes... He was an undrafted free agent, though.

I mean, this is a different level of talent. That's fair. And if you, like, hit right on, like, these, like, past catching backs, they could be pretty valuable in fantasy. Like, somebody who gets five catches a game is, like, kind of a big deal at running back. Especially in an offense, like, the bills. Like, if this was some other random middling or bad offense, like, I probably wouldn't be as excited about it,

but they're going to score a million points. And all they do is pass, and they also love to run plays in a row without subbing anybody out, and they just have players shuffle all around on the field. And like that's- Yeah, and honestly, like, the exciting thing about Cook is, he was sort of like the close, I don't know what the word is, like the closer for Georgia last year.

Like when they needed like a big play or like a surprise play, they would like line him up in the slot or like on the wing. And he'd just create these massive plays, sometimes touchdowns. And I could see the bills doing that like pretty consistently with James Cook where, because there's so many other options that they got to defend. Defenses have to defend against the bills.

And so he could kind of be like, Like, you know, I don't know what to call it, but like a like a basically just a big play creator for them. Okay, Dickey, who's who you got next? Is this the last one or second to last? No, we got, this is number nine. And then there's like a plateau of 12 guys that I wanted to put at number 10. So we'll just kind of dive into that.

But number nine at Damien Pierce for the Texans, who was a fourth round pick. This could end up looking really stupid by the time, you know, drafts come around. But he basically has not that much competition to have the starting job for the Texans going into this year. right now Marlon Mack who has only played in a handful of games over the last two seasons is in front of him and then Rex Burkhead who is 31 years old is the other guy

that's in front of him so I could see Damien Pierce just and again like Pierce was he blew up the senior bowl looked really good impressed everybody he didn't have a ton of carries or a ton of touches at Florida but he was consistently consistently breaking tackles really efficient good pass catcher has all the skill set that you look for

as a like a three down back good pass protector all that stuff but fourth rounder so you have to really kind of pump your brakes and say there's there's a chance where he's just not even like on the field so again this is a boom or bust pick for me but you love this guy before the draft

and now he's at a team that needs to see their young players I would have loved him I would have been more confident about this take if he was the third round pick of course he was the second pick of the fourth round so you know not that big of a difference but it does make a difference you know why because you're going to run into a situation

where the team just doesn't feel that committed to him, or there's not much clamor from the fans to get him on the field, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, it doesn't matter. I mean, from a dynasty point of view, too, like, look at what happened with Michael Carter in the Jets. Michael Carter went off last year.

He looked really good at times. And everyone's like, oh, see, like fourth rounders can be productive. They can win the starting job. And then he gets replaced with the second round guy. So that's kind of the issue you have. But he's the second pick of the fourth round. If you were like, you know,

the 10th, the last pick of the third. Does it matter that much? I mean, in reality, probably not. Like if Damien Pierce establishes himself as like a really good player and like a somewhat like star like a low grade star in the league, like it won't matter that he was drafted in the fourth round. But if he's like solid and not great, then yeah, he could get replaced.

But this is like more dynasty talk. Like this year, I think there's a solid chance that he's pretty good for them. Okay. All right. All right. I didn't know where to go with this because there's like, again, there's a lot of different guys to include in this list that could potentially be. year one contributors.

You're considering and pick one. So here's some guys and this is actually pretty interesting because the rookie class I think could produce a bunch of contributors. Rashad White with the Bucks

who landed in the third round. I think he's potentially very interesting if he could beat out Giovanni Bernard as like the third down back. Obviously four nuts in front of him but that's, you know,

he could maybe be the past catching down or the past catching back in that offense. George Pickens from the Steelers. Christian Watson from the Packers. Tyler Algear for the Falcons who was a fourth round pick, but again, he's sort of like

Damie Pierce. There's not much in front of them right now. David Bell from the Browns, who could be really interesting as a, like a slot target for Sean Watson. Wondale Robinson, your guy, high fits, second round pick for the Giants. And then you throw in guys like Isaiah Spiller

for the Chargers, Tyrion, Davis Price for the 49ers, Alec Pierce for the Colts, Jameson who's probably not going to be coming on the field until midway through the season. So that's why I kind of excluded him here. And then John Mechie, who's also coming off in ACL. But the guy that I ultimately went with and mostly just looking at draft capital, honestly, is Jahan Dotson, who is the 16th overall pick for the commanders. You know, he's like, it's funny because he's kind of like one of these random guys that doesn't have like one super intriguing defining trait.

But he's just like really good at everything. And I think they talked about him lining up and playing in the slot for them in year one. He could just be like a PPR machine. And he's just probably not going to have a ton of buzz. But I think he's, again, he's like the 16th overall pick. Adam Humphreys is no longer on Washington and now Jahan Dodson could just slip right into that.

There's something to be said for like a slot receiver who puts up five catches for 50 yards every game. Yeah. And so yeah, that's kind of like where he got the edge. Number one, draft capital. Number two, his role, I think, is going to be a little bit more reliable than say like a Christian Watson

where I think Christian Watson's probably going to have some really exciting plays but he's going to be probably all over the map in terms of like his volume. And so, yeah, and again, It's just like, I don't know if Dotson's like style meshes very well with Carson Wentz. But yeah, that's like it may be like the one where I have is like Carson Wentz is not really a checkdown pass over the middle of field kind of guy. Okay.

So that concludes our power hour, our soft power hour. Yeah. So again, like our light beer power hours is a session. They're not like hard rankings here. Just like my level of excitement for each guy. How about that? We'll lock in the hard rankings next week. This is a little suggestions, guidelines.

Yeah. Parts of the Carriedics. Check the draft guide for our more official. Okay. We're going to talk Dynasty. A lot of you've been clamoring for some Dynasty. So for those who don't know, Dynasty Fantasy Football is like regular fantasy football,

but you get to keep your team forever. So like you do your draft, but the guys you draft, you get them for, like there's no contracts. If you draft Patrick Mahomes, you have Patrick Mahomes. And so then every year you do subsequent drafts, but you're only drafting rookies.

and it's fun because if you get, you know, Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase, and then they go out and they have 1,400 yards and like one of the best rookie seasons ever, you just have them for the rest of their career. You can do trades and stuff and cut players, but it's just a very fun way. It makes the offseason more interesting as free agency gets going, the draft. It really kind of makes your fantasy football group chat with your friends.

It kind of just makes it more of a year-round cycle. It's a lot more fun. And so whether you're in one but need to convince your friends or you aren't in one, but maybe you should be. I kind of just want, that's my elevator pitch, is it's basically a way to,

like, it's just a deeper and more fun version of doing it. So I don't know if D.K.E.C., you guys have any other sales pitch you want to give on Dynasty real quick? It's the closest thing you can be to a GM. You're essentially just a GM, and if that interests you,

having players forever. The reason why I don't love it is because I think drafting is the funnest part of fantasy football. I think draft day, redraft drafting is the, funest thing there is. But you still draft rookies every year and that can be really fun. And you can trade draft picks. So again, you can feel like a GM in that regard. So yeah, I mean, I think it's great.

It's probably fun to do both. I should really start a dynasty league. I'm not in one, but I get it. My take would be, it's like really fun to like find a sleeper and he hits. And like, it's like, you know, halfway through the season, all of a sudden he's going off and gaining in value and all that stuff. And then like in redraft, you're like, oh, I have to drop that guy. make a whole new team next year. Like that sucks. I really enjoy the part where you're looking for and again, this is partly goes to the fact that I'm very into the draft. Find guys that are sleepers that, you know, you can kind of put your evaluation tools to the test and find guys that are going to be better than everybody thinks they're going to be and then you put them on

your team and you can keep them forever or you can trade to pick up more value or whatever. And so I think it's just really fun format. But yeah, particularly, I just like the fact that like, you don't have to like reconstruct your team every year. You can like, if you really do well and find a sleeper and find a guy that was undervalued and he outplays his draft position or his ADP or whatever, you get to benefit from that, you know, in perpetuity until he is retired or whatever. So, yeah, it's just a lot of fun. Plus, by the way, it keeps everything interesting during the off season, too. You know, there's rookie drafts from the off season. You get to, the group chat stays really locked in and focused, and there's just a lot to do during the off season, a lot of trading

during the off season. So it's just kind of like a year-long thing. If you don't, if you don't want to the thing where you just kind of like pack up and don't talk about fantasy for six months out of the year. If you're just more interested in it, then this is a great way to do that. If you have no life and you don't ever want to take any days off and going to vacation, too dynasty. Pretty much. If you're the person who's like sitting on a beach in Maui and just, this just has everything you could ever want on this like beautiful vacation and all you can think about is like how to squeeze a little

more value out of like you have like the third pick in the draft and like, ooh, what about Drake London with Marcus Mariotta? Then like, you know what this is for you? Yeah. You sicko. So with everything we just talked about, D.K., who are the players that you are most excited about for dynasty? And again, guys, you'll get the rest of the career.

So a big difference, for example, is like, yeah, Damien Pierce, as we were just talking about, who's a fourth round running back. Maybe he's just starting running back for the Texans this year. Probably not starting running back for the Texans in 2023 or 2024. Maybe, who knows? So, like, in this world where, again, quarterbacks, usually most dynasty leagues are two quarterback leagues. So quarterbacks are way more valuable because they're, you know, two quarterbacks, plus you can get it for 10 or 15 years. They're good. But not great quarterbacks

this year. So I'm curious to, who are the players you are most excited to try to get in your own dynasty drafts this year? Ooh, good question. I would say since I've been a Traylenberg Stan, I think he's definitely very much a target for me, especially because a lot of the people that I play with, a lot of, I guess, like the hardcore dynasty people are a little bit down on him, honestly. Like, you know, the route running thing is a big concern for them. I'm not, saying for everybody. Aren't we over route running? How many times do we need to hear that route running is so he went number he went ninth in a league I'm in right now, uh, in a rookie draft, which is the lowest I've seen it during this whole like offseason because like he was going regularly like

fourth, fifth, sixth ish in that range and pre-draft rookie drafts. And again, your dynasty rankings will be up on our draft guide coming out next week. Yeah. And so he's like, I think the people, like the public or whatever, the people that I play with at least are a little bit down on him. So I think he's a guy that I'm going to be scooping up a lot because I think he could really outplay his his spot in rookie drafts. And so I would say him for sure, Jameson Williams, I'm super excited about. I think his landing spot's not super exciting. So people might push him down on boards a little bit.

But like that speed, that game breaking speed that he has is really exciting. And the idea is that Jared Goss not going to be the quarterback in Detroit forever. Right. Maybe next year. I feel like Jameson Williams is the guy I'm most excited about because if he weren't, didn't have the ACL tear, I feel like he'd be so much more exciting. And I feel like he'll be fine, as Craig always says, like, it's like ACL's just not a big deal anymore. Get it out of the way.

And I'm, like, totally down to get Jameson Williams in any kind of discount. I agree. I think Detroit puts a discount on him, the ACL. I feel like Jameson Williams is going to be the best receiver in this class. You know who's another guy? I want to shout out, and I'm certainly biased now.

But George Pickens on the Steelers, Deonté Johnson is in the last year of his deal, and if they don't want to pay him, and George Pickens has a good freshman, or rookie season with the Steelers. like if Kenny Pickett works out, it could be Pickett and Pickens for a while. You know, he's essentially an AJ Green clone out of Georgia. I don't know.

I think there's a lot of value there. Yeah, I was going to say him too. And then let's see here. Obviously Skymore, but I think the other one too that we talked about a little bit is Walker, Kenneth Walker, who I think a lot of people are fading and talking about him just being worried about the landing spot. I think in a couple years, we're not going to be, we're going to be laughing about the fact that we were, like, worried about his landing side

because I think the CX want to run the ball a lot. They use the 41st overall pick on him. Like, that's not nothing. And again, I really don't think you can use the Rashad Penny career arc as any form of, like, precedent for what we're going to see from Walker because, like, Penny had literally everything that could go wrong, go wrong for him in his career.

And so I just don't see that happening with him. What about, we haven't talked much about Christian Watson who went to the Packers. I feel like he's kind of a good example of someone who can be both. year. I mean, he is. We'll redraft. And if he gets that connection with Aaron Rogers, there's a market for whoever wants to be Aaron Rogers is, you know, the bell of the bell of the ball in Green Bay. I mean, yeah, I go on, I go back and forth with Christian Watson, honestly. I think like on the, on the plus side, he is a rare, rare athlete, extraordinary athlete who, you know, he has the explosive

speed. He's run after the catchability. He's got pretty good size. But there's some real big red flags to me. Like, obviously, he's coming from a lower level competition. He's a late bloomer. He dropped a lot of passes. He has, yeah, he has, like, really iffy hands. Is he just Marquez-Valdes-Scantling? This is the question. Like, I think there's a, there's a range, like, if we were doing the 50

Shades thing, like, on one hand, he would be MVS. On the other hand, he would be, I don't know, like, supercharged Chase Claypool or something like that. Like, everything you want as an outside receiver. But I think that there is a downside there where

you know he just is he ends up being sort of like a designated deep threat who doesn't really do a lot and then when he does get targets he drops them like MVS did for so many years in Green Bay I think that's in the realm of like outcomes or the range of outcomes I should say but I mean I don't know and the other thing is like he

there's just not a lot of guys that are his size like six foot four whatever he measured out at and he ran like a four three nine right at six four yeah he's like he's kind of tall and lanky and skinny So literally MVs. Maybe he needs to put on some weight, like, 225 would be like his target weight or something like that, and then he could be a little bit slower

and just put like half that BMI that you're looking for. You know, I think that we haven't put enough talk into actually, like now that the draft is over, how little the backers did a wide receiver. Week one is going to start. And Aaron Rogers is going to be throwing to Sammy Watkins, Alan Lazard, and Christian Watson. Like that's, and Robert Tunyon.

That's the squad. For the two-time reigning MVP, that's the squad. that's the squad. Yeah. You know, they tried to sign O'Dell Beckham before he went with the Rams and I almost feel like

they should really, really try to do that. Yes. I don't know if O'Dell wants to live in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and I have no idea if that's, I really don't know

if that's saying he would consider, but they really should try to get O'Dell Beckham. It's rough up there in Green Bay at wide receiver. It's also just rough up there in Green Bay. It's much colder than Los Angeles.

I don't know if you know that, Greg. I don't. I don't know anything outside of California. Yeah, DK, if you had to pick one of these players who immediately becomes Justin Jefferson good where it doesn't have to be a wide receiver,

but we're four weeks in and we're like, well, this guy's... That's the offensive rookie of the year. He's already won it. Shit, that's tough. So, I guess London. Just because, like, the size, skill set, route running, yards after the catch. There's, like, again, like, this is so hard, and this class is, like, sort of just like this.

There's really wide range of outcomes with all. of them. I don't feel like Jamar Chase with any of these guys. Like, I don't feel like any of them are can't miss prospects that we saw like with Chase and with going back a couple of years. Like even that class was, I think, a little bit higher end in terms of blue chip talent. However, London number eight overall pick, size, speed. Well, he's not super fast, but size, route running, yards after the catch, size, catch point prowess. Size. Going to get tons of volume. Did I say size twice? It's got size. Dodge, duck. Dyes. Dyes. and dodge.

But there's also just this remote possibility, he's just JJR Sega Whiteside again, so who knows. Well, there's a really bad history of the first wide receiver taken off the board in a lot of drafts. I know, that's what scares me, man. Yeah, I read through it.

It's like Henry Ruggs, it's like Corey Davis. There's a lot of those on there. You're catching me, I'm just going to be up front. You're catching me at the tail end of like three months straight of just like not doing anything but thinking about like these draft players. And I'm just like, I feel like I've gone full circle well, I've convinced myself that they suck.

Like, first I'm like, super excited. Then I'm like, oh, okay, so there's some red flags. I'm like, oh, actually, never mind. I don't believe any of these red flags are really good. And then I'm like, oh, no, maybe these red flags mean a lot. I don't know where I am right now. Like, I've completely like a lot. My brain is mush.

Good. I want to give you a mush quiz. Who's the really good player who actually sucks? What? You're saying you've come to convince yourself that all the good, all these players are good and they're all the bad. I want the good, pick one of the good players. He's going to go hide and run.

rookie drafts, look back in five years. Like, I didn't do anything. Chris Olavé? Like, maybe, yeah. Well, no, I'd say like a guy like Garrett Wilson. Maybe his range of outcomes or something. I really like him. He was my number one, but that's why I'm saying this.

He was my number one receiver. I guess it wouldn't be the most shocking thing in the world if he like ends up being not good. It's like, this is the class. Wow. Okay. So flip side, who's the guy who's like everyone thinks is bad that's actually just amazing. Berks.

Or will be amazing. Who? Berks. No, you went at the first round. It's not a guy everyone thinks it's bad.

Okay, maybe I'm just living in like a... You have dynasty brain. He's the 18th pick in the draft. I'm living in an echo chamber of a lot of people in the dynasty world

and, you know, generally just like draft analysts are down on Berks. Like, they think he's not a very good route run. I think that's relative because dynasty people

are always like any receiver drafted in the top 20s high. So outside your dynasty brain echo chamber bubble. So you want me to limit it to second round picks only or what? Like,

what are we talking about? Yeah, no one in the first? first round. Someone that is going to go in the like the third round of a dynasty draft or later. Oh, good question. Okay. That you're like, wow, what a gem. Or second round. We should have just done this line of questioning the whole

thing. Let's see. Let's go with a gem. I want a gem for my dynasty draft. All right. Well, I'll stick with my pre-draft sleeper project here. Tyrion Davis Price for the 49ers. The running back. So you're just saying is Shanahan running back carousel. Yeah. Well, here's the deal. I really liked

Ty Davis Price beforehand. I told him about, I was talking about it with like all my, like dynasty buddies. And then he went in the third round above guys like Zemir White, who was like, you know, pretty well known to the 49ers. Yeah, he had Zemir, Zwery White. Georgia, everyone knows who went to Georgia. He's a former five-star guy who played for the national champions. Come on.

Wake up, kid. It's just, yeah. DK's out here like everyone studied the NFL draft. Okay. Tell people where Zemir White played. Zemir White played for Georgia. All right. So anyway,

he's just so sick of this and we're like, you got to tell people do you want me to see what I'm going to say or not? I don't know anymore. Jesus Christ.

He glossed over the guy's name's Tyrion, which is easily the coolest part about him, like spelled like Lannister and everything. Yeah.

I think it was born probably before the Game of Thrones, but I'm not 100% sure about that. Anyway, the show were the books. The books. When was the first book written? The 90s.

90s something? Yeah. well, he could have been, I guess, named after Terean. That'd be funny. Anyway, yeah. So the last several third round surprise, third round picks for the 49ers at running back were Joe Williams and Trace Sermon, neither of whom did anything of note. And so obviously that's not great precedent for Ty Davis Price, who, again, was probably

like he went two rounds earlier than I think most people thought he would. But he ran a 4-48 battering ram running back. burst, good explosiveness, good size. I was very excited about him before the draft as like a sleeper. And so landing with 49ers who loved to run the ball. And Shanahan, you know, as we know, has been really good about turning sort of no-name guys into superstars and fantasy. Obviously, there's a lot of ups and downs along the road with that because he just like follows his whims. And you can't really ever predict what he's going to do.

But yeah, I like him a lot. I think he's just going to be fun to watch in the preseason. I hope that he actually turns out to be something. hopefully he doesn't turn into the next trace sermon also his name's terrian which is cool that is cool i think we're at the point with the niners where you literally just have to draft ever running back on that roster right right or none of them that we're none or here's the deal here's the deal sermon i don't know what the hell happened with sermon in year one but elijah more came in as a six-round pick and was like Mitchell sorry Elijah Mitchell yeah uh came in when there's two elijah ms

in one draft class that's pretty annoying yeah uh he came in and like did really well um but i i think what I heard is he had his niece scoped a couple weeks ago or like this off season. So like there's some uncertainty about his health. He's not very big. So maybe he can't carry a heavy load. Maybe they want to get this guy in and be like, you know, a big part of their run game or whatever. And so I just, I don't know. I'm excited about him. I'm just going with my pre-draft bias. But I also think the landing spot's pretty interesting. I feel like Shanahan shows up day one to training camp. He watches all the running backs. And then he goes, I like that one. And they leave. That's probably not far from the truth. All right. Got bad vibes.

Price is your sleeper. You like Drake London is the guy most likely to just dominate immediately. There's the dynasty talk. Glad we got that in. A little dynasty brain. I feel like dynasty brain sprinkled throughout the entire episode.

Dynasty brain is pervasive, man. I'm going to have to really like transfer my... I'm going to have to like really focus once we get back into redraft mode because it's like very hard to like... Come, come love your family. Like we need you to back in your life. Okay.

Can we do a fantasy court? Yeah. It's been a while. Wow. it. Wow. All right. Big one. DK, we're going to need your help on this one.

This is like an older people problem. Okay. How's it going, guys. I have a bit of an issue I was hoping. Who's this from? Honestly, I'm not going to read the name because it seems like a real life problem. Okay.

She could make up a name. They know who they are. How's it going, guys? I have a bit of an issue I'm hoping you guys could weigh in on. I'm not quite sure if this would qualify for fantasy court, but it's in the realm. I've been commissioning the same leagues since 2001.

And then basically blah, blah, blah. He goes on to explain that they went from 10 to 12. When they expanded from 10 to 12, they added his brother-in-law. Or sorry, one of the friends, key, one of the friends in the leagues added their brother-in-law. He didn't, but one of his friends added his brother-in-law. Yeah. So they needed 10-12 and a league mate's like my brother-in-law can join. Okay.

Here's where my issue arises. We've had seven seasons since we went from 10 to 12 people and added this brother-in-law. my friend and his wife, the friend who recommended the brother-in-law, the friend and his wife are getting divorced and it's not amicable. Oh, boy. My brother has been on a wait, like the commissioner's brother, has been on the wait list to get into the league for like three years. Would it be a dick move to just drop my friend's ex-brother-in-law from the league

and add my actual real brother? Some relevant info. The brother-in-law is the only person in the league that I don't see. outside the draft in real life. And during the season, I asked the people in my league to answer a few multiple choice questions every week for a weekly write-up

I do as commissioner. Wow. And the questions, oh, sorry, the questions not every week. They're at the halfway point and at the end of the season. So week eight, and then he does it at the end of the season.

And the ex-brother-in-law is the only guy that cannot be bothered to send in the responses. They already don't like this guy. And then he's sending him in. He said, and then he continues. That annoys me.

I asked my friend who's getting the divorce and he said I shouldn't kick him out because the brother-in-law out because the brother-in-law did nothing wrong. I've talked to a few other league members and they seem to be torn. No one wants to add any more teams. Do you have any wisdom you're willing to bestow upon me?

My instinct is to not kick this guy out just because he's now an ex-brother-in-law. Like, he's still a person. He's still a human being. He doesn't answer the questionnaires every week, but I probably wouldn't either to be if I'm being totally honest. you have 23 leagues.

That would be a full-time job. I don't like answering emails. I mean like the SAT if you had a questionnaire after all 23 leagues. I have one question. We would need to follow up. Do they like him? Yeah. I mean, clearly, it seems the commissioner does not like him.

The commissioner is annoyed with this guy, but everyone else is like, yeah, he's fine. I think that the commissioner just has to deal with. I think, I don't know if they like him, but it seems like I don't know if they interact with them in real life. I think you cut him. Oh. I really do. Sometimes you got to make tough choices in life.

And Craig just says, give him the axe. This guy, this friend, who's ex-brother-in-law is now in the league, is he ever going to talk to him again? If he leaves this league, are they ever going to talk again? There's one bad, one uncomfortable email you have to send, and then you're done. You wash your hands of it. That's true.

It's definitely not fair for this other guy, but maybe for the health of the league. Maybe the other guy doesn't really want to be in this league either. Yeah, maybe you're doing him a favor. Actually, that's what I'm going to decide. You're doing this guy a favor. He doesn't have to worry about this league. anymore. He doesn't have to worry about talking to his ex-brother-in-law. Mind you, it sounds like this guy got looped into a fantasy league with his brother, because

you know, they're both brother-in-laws to each other. So from this guy's perspective, who'd be on the chopping block, his brother-in-law invites him to a league where presumably he doesn't know any of the other 10 people in the league, right? He knows one other person and then 10 dudes he doesn't know. Now he can't even really talk to his connection. And like, I think, I think the writer of this email is just looking for an excuse to get this guy out because he doesn't answer the emails every week. And I quote, the ex-brother-in-law is the only guy that can't be bothered to give me any answers. Yeah, he hates this guy. I don't think it's crazy. I think that... You're just looking for us to give you permission. You can kick him out if you want. You're the

commissioner. You know, maybe you should make these email answers obligatory. Hi, Fitz. I mean, relate this to yourself. If Jackie had a brother, I don't know if she does. And you you guys were married and he's in the league and he's like not the nicest guy and he's not super communicative with the rest of the league you and jackie get a divorce are you keeping him in the league no can we do this without a hypothetical uh ending of my current relationship is that possible no i have to make it personal because it's the only way you can think rationally of course not i i think the obvious answer to your question is that i see why the guy who's actually getting the divorce is like don't kick him out but i also see how the friend of the guy is like

why do I have to care about this? You know what I've been? So I think the commissioner, honestly, what the commissioner should do, let's be real. Reading this email, the commissioner wants this guy gone. I think,

given the situation, the commissioner's job is this. He's looking for us to be the executioner here. I don't think this is a, as a justice on this court, I'm going to punt this back. And I, like,

we're not making this decision for. We're washing our hands of this. Here's what I'll say as a nice recommendation from a, Hung jury. Mediation. If you're going to do it, you have to own it because you can't let you kicking him out seem like the guy getting the divorce asked for it.

Like if you're going to kick him out, you can't act like my friend doesn't want to be in the league with you because you're, you know, he's divorcing your sister. Like you can't, you have to be like, I don't want, I don't know. Like I feel like you got to make it clear like I just, you got to own it as the commissioner is your decision. Perhaps seven years ago, when this guy's brother-in-law joined the league, the commissioner was annoyed because he wanted his brother to join the league. And it was decided that the brother-in-law gets in. And now he's pissed.

And he's like, hey, my brother's been waiting for years. Now we have no connection to this brother-in-law guy. I get it. I think the key thing here is, like, they don't have any connection to this guy. Like, what effect is this going to have on anyone's life if they just kick him out? I think they should probably get it. It's probably better for everyone. Imagine them playing each other.

Have you guys ever been kicked out of a league? No. Have you ever been kicked out of the league? I've had to get people out. Yeah, same here. But usually they deserve it. I imagine the people who get kicked out of leagues don't go on to have professional fantasy football podcasts.

I will say, if this ex-brother-in-law won the league last year, you can't kick him out. That would be funny. He just left out that this guy's like dominant. Imagine if he left out that the brother-in-law has. incredible. He's like the Patriots of this league and they just like he didn't mention it. If he won last year, you can't kick him out. You can't kick

out a champ. Yeah. Unspoken code. I think I go so far as to say is if he's what if he won, what if he won two years ago? No, that's fine. I don't know. That guy could sue. I think there is a point where you're like, wow, if he's the guy won two years ago

and you're booting him. Now, if he hasn't won in the seven, yeah, ax him. Five, probably not, but I don't know. Anyway. I think we're on the same page. Evan, oh, are we? Well,

I said it. I don't know what are. I think he can boot it. It's fine. Just, just, you know, do it.

You slipped in the name there. I mean, whatever, who cares? All right. Bring in the dancing lobsters. All right, there you go. Kick him out.

Do whatever you want. All right. So our fantasy football guide will be going live next week in line. We'll also be going through our top 200 rankings. We'll be having a pod align with that.

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with the fantasy show through draft season, we're happy to be back, baby. Until Eminem sues us, we're here. Until we have to go to real court because Eminem sues our ass. Can you imagine if then we had to pitch the judge and the judge that had to listen to the episodes and the judge had to listen to our legal analysis.

He kind of likes it, though. He's like, why, you guys are bad. He's like, oh, punting back down. Smart. I would have done the same. He's like, kick out the ex-brother-in-law. Or the judge is the ex-brother-in-law? Yeah, I mean, they've been in this league since 2001.

Sounds like these guys are a bit older. That is actually really funny. I mean, the earliest you start a fantasy league is like high school, right? 16 maybe. I have some in middle school. Middle school. You think 2001 middle schoolers are starting to fantasy league? No, you need, middle schoolers probably needed the internet.

I don't know, DK. How old were you started mailing things? What? How old were you when you were in the mail? I mean, probably like, second or third grade or something like that? I bet these guys are in their early 40s. I guess because I only know about old fantasy football from Bill when Bill's like, yeah, we had to add up the box scores by hand and walk the hill both ways.

I never did mail in the fantasy stuff. Like I never did fantasy by mail. I would mail letters to like pen pals. and shit when I was probably in like the late 80s. I don't think that there's any middle schoolers doing math with box schools. You know how newsletters are like all the rage right now? Everyone is doing like subscription newsletters.

I'm going to start, I'm going to go back and do a literal, tangible newsletter. Mail. There's no trace of it. It will get delivered to people's a door and it'll do my thoughts. Should we send people this podcast like with actual physical written out what we were saying? Here's the transcript. How will we spell the way I say penalty? panel panel

I want to send individual little MP3 players to each of our listeners' doorstep and it distracts self-destructing 48 hours A-track? Yeah, A-track, Kanye style

Okay, I think I'm going to end the podcast though. All right, thank you, Craig. Thank you to everyone for listening. We were very excited to be back. Thank you to Eminem's legal representation for letting this one slide. D-K, thank you, Lauren.

Perhaps, D-K, you want to thank somebody specific? Thank you, Eminem. Oh, that was organic. Thank you, Eminem. Thank you, Lorne. I was going to say that, but Hyphen said, thank you Eminem. And I was like, well, shit, I've been thrown off.

It worked out. It worked out. Eminem, just a seminal artist in my life and one of the greats. Goodbye, everyone.