The Ringer NFL Show - Power-Ranking the Things We Are NOT Thankful For

Episode Date: November 24, 2021

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don't try to understand on HBO or HBO Max Thursday 8 p.m. Welcome to the Ring of Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hypefitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck and today it is Power Hour. Every week we rank something on Wednesdays and this week it's almost Thanksgiving.

So we were like, what if we rank the people, the players that we were thankful for? And we thought, no, let's rank the people that we're not thankful for. Yeah, negativity, baby. Assholes. Yes, that's what we're going to be. The people that we really wish we're not in our lives.

People bond over hating things, not loving things. It's really true. It's tribalism. It's the core of the human condition. You know what we should have done Wednesday, the day before Thanksgiving, I believe is the day that most Americans drink alcohol, right? The most amount of alcohol is consumed the day before Thanksgiving. Really?

I didn't know that. I think it's number one day. and then the Super Bowl is number two. Could be wrong, but that's what I've heard. So we should have done a real power hour today. We should. Craig's like, that's what I've heard is that I think Craig,

Craig just gets really drunk on that Wednesday. Is this because everyone goes home from college and gets drunk with all their friends like the night before Thanksgiving? And I think it's just a big family drinking night. Like everyone's just home. Family drinking. Family drinking.

Good old family drinking. Family drinking. All right. Well, I have cause to celebrate here. We're going to just skip right into this. Yes. Big news. The people who don't know, Power Hour, you'll hear this sound.

Tom, Tom, Club. Tom, baby. Five minutes and 34 seconds. It's 334 seconds, I believe. And you're going to hear that full song in between every... 3004 seconds, and then that'll be the end of the topic. But we're going to break the rules right off the job. I don't think two minutes is going to contain me here.

The number one person I'm not thankful for is Jason Garrett. Yes. Start the timer, baby. I'm not going to respect Tom Tom on this one. I'm going to tell you right now that it's not going to happen. Jason Garrett has been fired. Ding Dong, the witch is dead.

You've heard of the Bing Bong for the Knicks? This is ding dong. The Giants fired Jason Garrett. Thank God. Like, I don't mean to like celebrate someone getting fired. But like I actually, you know what I am. I'm sorry. He's got millions.

He's got millions. Yeah, I don't feel bad for this guy. He's been tricking all of us for a decade. Dude, you know what? I'm sorry. I don't feel bad for anyone who got to run the Dallas Cowboys for 10 years. And like, here's the thing. The Giants since they hired Jason Garrett have the fewest offensive touchdowns.

Like, what else is your job to score touchdown? That's not being an offensive coordinator. That's just offensive. You're an offensive coordinator. Like, it's disgusting. And the absolute worst part of this is like, it's not just about Jason Garrett. It's like, this is what everyone thought would happen. You know what I mean?

It's not hindsight. We always focus on like, man, we talked about this and we were wrong. No, we all made fun of this. We all were like, wow, he was really bad at offense with the Cowan. boys. I wonder what will happen when he has a way worse team. And they were the worst goddamn offense in football the last two years. Like, this is crazy. I'm not even mad at Jason Garrett. I'm mad that the Giants ever hired him and that they must have been the only people who thought this would be a good idea. And it wasn't. And I'm like, damn, he's gone. But everyone who made the

decision to hire Jason Garrett is still there. What did they say? Do you remember what they said when they hired him? Like, what was the rationale or what was? I don't remember the real what they said, but the real rationale was, I think, twofold. They somehow liked, they felt, I believe, that they felt that Joe Judge was so inexperienced. Because remember, he's a special teams coach for the Patriots, and he almost went to be the coach at, like, Mississippi State. And he goes from getting the head coach job at Mississippi State

to the New York Giants. And they were so concerned about that leveling up, that they were like, well, Jason Garrett will, like, be able to groom the head coach and help him, like, get more experience. And Jason Garrett can help groom Daniel Jones, because he had experience with Dak. And it's like, wrong with you people.

I don't really get why they hired the bell. I don't care. While we're on it. How we feel? So like I guess overall yeah, Jason Gary, what was it? 26 games that he was the offensive coordinator for? Yeah, is that more or less than you guys thought? Is that longer or shorter than you thought he'd be in New York coaching? 26 games, not a time. It's actually, it's actually shorter. Yeah, I think it's shorter too.

They should have fired him at the end of last season. I'm surprised they did this, but they had to because last night disgusting on so many levels, dude. Like, there was just, the game itself, the score, that was bad. But also just, I mean, Dan Rolovsky had a great tweet this morning, putting out something my brother pointed out to me in the moment, which is like the Giants had a play on a key down. I don't remember which one where there were like three receivers all next to each other.

It was crazy. Well, they ran crossing routes, and all three of the guys ended up in the exact same spot. It was like... It was like... It was like... Who is he supposed to throw here? Dan Rolovsky's like just the disdain in his voice? There's a crossfade, then there's like...

So good. receivers look cross-fated. That's what the Giants do. There's also a fourth and one where the Giants huddled with 15 seconds on the play clock. And I don't mean like they broke the huddle. I mean the Giants took 25 seconds

to decide whether they were going to go for and a fourth and one and got the play call in with 15 seconds left and then shockingly didn't get it. And it's like, dude, what the... Anyway, I could go on forever about how bad you were losing your mind last night. I am freaking out.

I think I tweeted more in the last two days than I have in the last two years. Like, dude, it was funny. I could go on forever. But the point is, like, Jason Garrett's a scapegoat. This team sucks. It sucked before he got there. He made them worse.

But like the people who have made it suck are still there and they got to fix it. However, for today and today alone, I will be thankful that Jason Garrett is no longer in my goddamn life. You can't ignore the fact that the last 26 games happened is kind of what we're getting at here. So you haven't been thankful. Again, worst, literally the fewest touchdowns since he took the job. I think that the Giants, the fact that they've had a lot of success in the last couple of decades, obviously two Super Bowl wins. It's definitely, and just like the, I guess, stature of their franchise or something is like really hiding the fact this has been the most dog shit organization maybe in the NFL.

It's like a family who won the lottery and they're kind of using that as an excuse to say that we have generational wealth. And it's like, well, no one really worked for it. You kind of got lucky once. Well, that's the thing. I think that with the real reason. So Giants fans are at rock bottom. Like, and I mean rock bottom. Like, and it's been rock bottom for two or three years.

And I think that the reason that this season hurts so much is that Giants fans genuinely thought they were better than certain franchises. The Giants care, as an organization, carry themselves, like, they're just better than the Bengals. And honestly, as a fan, I'm like, yeah, I'm not like the lions. The lions are losers. The Giants are winners. And this whole season in the last two years has been kind of realizing, like, we're not actually like the Steelers who are good. and even if they lose to the Patriots, Steelers always have a winning record.

The Giants are a lot more like the lions or the bears. They're losers. And realizing that I am a loser. The Bears went to the playoffs last year. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. In my head, we're better. I'm like, no, you're not better than anyone.

You're actually worse than almost everybody. And it's probably going to stay that way for a long time. It's been a real hit right to the ego. Like what happened Justin Fields of Spleen? They were worried about it rupturing. My ego, has like ruptured. Oh man.

Okay. So now it's the Freddie Kitchens era. We've got 20, we've got 29 seconds left in the, it's so funny that it's Freddy Kitchens. It feels like in a video game, you beat the boss and then there's like a different boss and you're like, oh, this is like kind of weirder in a way.

Right. It's like the devil you know versus the devil you don't know. Now you got Freddy Kitchens coming in. Oh boy. Anyway, okay. I, I'm sorry to Tom Tom. I want to apologize to Tom Tom Tom. We tripled Tom Tom club there.

I had to get that out, man. That was my fantasy therapy. We needed to do that. Yeah. Jesus. All right. Hyphitz, move on to number two. Just cleanse, flush it.

You don't have to think about it right now. Breathe, breathe. It's over. It's in the past. All right. I'll speak of someone who has quite the future ahead of them. Dude, the other person we're not thankful for is Matt Nagy. Yeah.

This feels like a low blow, but that's okay. Well, we wrote it down. He's getting chance for getting fired at high school football games. Dude, yeah. Did you see that the high school chant where they were, like, fire, Nagy.

And people were like, oh no, that's so out of bounds. I'm like, dude, it's a high school football. Have you heard? What do you want the kids to chance?

Some of the chance coming out of high school crowds? That's like the nicest thing that could have said to be honest. Also, it's going to happen, which we're burying the lead here. Like he's,

so there was a report that Matt Nagy has been informed, was informed on Monday, that he will be fired after the Thanksgiving game. And we'll see if it happens. But like, that's astounding that like, hey, you're going to coach one more game and be fired,

which, like, I feel like that really happens other than, like, that happens in like the last week of the season sometimes. But it's, win or lose, you're going to get fired. Why not just, why not just fire him now? I think, why would you wait? I think, it's like, you can't, I think that it's like, you can't reasonably tell

the Bears are playing on Thanksgiving, which that's embarrassing for Matt Nagy, but like, I think you can't reasonably have a game plan. Did you see that Nagy said that he essentially has not spoken to the team's leadership about this? That he found out via the media and has not been told by the Bears front office that he's getting fired? Oh, I believe that. So the Bears have never fired a coach midseason in their hundred year history, and I think that was important

to them. And clearly, they're not very good at it, because I don't think you should tell them in advance. Nothing like finding out you got fired on Twitter. Yeah. It's not like a regular job. You don't need to like give someone two weeks or whatever. I don't know what the, but I, but here's the thing. It's like the Garrett thing. He's an offensive head coach. This season, they're second to last in yards and yards per play. They're dead last in net passing and their third to last in first downs. Like, this team is awful. Is he going to be the most motivated or the least motivated to have a good game on Thanksgiving?

We'll see if the players care about him. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. He broke Justin Fields. Does he want to win big and go out on top and be like, fuck you guys, look what you gave up? Or is he like, fuck this team. I hope we lose by 30. I don't think you want to bet on them on Thanksgiving.

I'll put it that way. My God. The lame duck naggy bears against the lions is crazy. All right. number three people were not thankful for DK I'll go here I am not thankful for the NFL competition committee and just generally speaking

the officials NFL official you know in my old age as I've gotten deeper and deeper into fantasy world and being a fantasy analyst like my I found that like my blood pressure is not as high I don't have as wild swings like the fandom swings for a certain team

because as we've talked talked about the past. You got so many players that you're rooting for now. It's like, Craig, you were talking about this last week. Like, you were more excited about Mike Williams score, like getting a big touchdown pass than you worry about the fact that it came against your team. So I found that like Sundays are not quite as stressful for me or, or at least like I don't have like the highs and lows quite as much. What I've really found that like really gets my blood boiling is the officiating in the NFL. I fucking hate official. I hate the refs.

Hell yeah, DK is officially a dad. This is what dad's do. Like, I hate the referees. Like, it's getting out of control. Like, I'm going to have to go see, like, a Buddhist about it because I legitimately fucking hate NFL referees. But I kind of feel for the refs. Like, they don't make the fucking rules, man.

Like, the competition committee writes these rules and the refs job is to enforce them. I guess. Like, the rest will literally be marked down if they missed them. I'm lumping these things together. NFL competition committee is culpable for this, obviously, because they're the ones that wanted. These taunting penalties are the fucking. worse. No one wants them. It's crazy.

Really are. The stone's the thing though. Here's the thing. Usually it's very easy to be like, you know, the owners are out of touch you know, billionaires, whatever. But like, dude, Mike Tomlin is on the competition committee and out here being like, yeah, no, I agree with the taunting good for the kids. Like the jams, there are

jams and coaches push for this along with owners. It's not just like a billionaire white owner thing kind of trying to play. Yeah, but I don't think they've, coaches have said they didn't really realize what they were voting for when they voted for it. Sean Payton said that. Welcome to democracy. That's the problem. He was like, in theory, I understood what they

met, but then you're actually watching it on the field. Some guys, like, clapping after he catches a ball and throw on flag. Oh, wait. I think that's exactly what's happened here is like they're saying, oh, we're going to crack down on taunting. And that sounds like, whatever, okay, fine, we'll do that. It's for the kids, whatever. But they've

gone so above and beyond. Every little gyration that a player does, like in the general direction of another player is like a fucking flag. It's ridiculous. Remember the ref who backed up into that one player? Yeah, that's Cash out March.

Cash's Marsh for posturing at the other sideline. No, but here's the problem with that. Everyone gave Tony Carrenti shit. That is the rule as they wrote it. I don't care. It's a stupid rule. It's a stupid rule. I know.

I just feel like the refs, the refs don't write the rule. The rest aren't even full-time employees. Carrante backed up into him. Like, I'm not defending him for that. I just want to say. Real quick, because I don't want to I don't want to completely go over my time here,

but pass the taunting rule. Okay. Okay, say what you're going to say, because I want to talk about other stuff, too, about this. No, no, no, go. Keep going about the rest. This is worth it. Okay. So, past the taunting rules, which I think we all agree are ridiculous and stupid. We talked about this in the offseason. The holding calls are back. We had kind of wondered, because during the pandemic, and I actually understand why the NFL did this. They were basically like, I don't know if I actually heard on the record that they said this, but I think what the reports were, like, basically the NFL was like, unless it's egregious, don't call penalties. Yeah, they quiet. They quietly just went away.

Walt Anderson took over and was like, you know what, just don't worry about it. If it's egregious call it, otherwise let them play, which is honestly fucking great. Like, I loved that. Basically, all the runs were like if the run went to the left for 70-yard touchdown and there was holding on the back guy in the right, they're like, just don't call it. That was the soft rule. I think obviously people that are against this would say, well, you're just like fantasy. But it's like, no, I like games that just continue to go.

I like games that are exciting and fun. Like, every time you get a big play and it's called. It mattered though, because holding dropped. by like 30% and then it's a big deal because holding basically drops the odds of a scoring a touchdown by like half. Yeah, think about the holding calls that push you back. It's a 10-yard penalty.

It ruins drives and therefore you score fewer points. I'm gonna, here's the stats. In 2018, there were 735 offensive holding calls made in the NFL. So 735. As a league, teams average 23.3 points per game. In 2019, 732, so almost the exact amount of holding calls league-wide.

teams average 22.8 points. Last year in 2020 in the pandemic year, 477 offensive holding calls, which is like, not half, but like 60% or something. Yeah, and team scoring, team scoring went up to 24.8.

Almost like three points higher, or two points higher per game per team, which is, in terms of like the NFL, it's like fucking massive. That's like orders of magnitude, way more scoring. was great. It was fun. And obviously, us in the pandemic and we're just like looking for anything to be happy about, like, it was great fun, you know? This year, I did the, I did the math

today. And they're on pace to call 737 holding calls this year. Exactly where they were at before. Well, it's actually slightly lower than the old pace because there's 17 games. But still close. But regardless, the points where game is back down to 23.1. So another full two points down per game per team. Well, well, once they fire Jason Garrett, the points of the league will go back up. It'll normalize, yeah. Garrett and Matt Nagygon will probably normal.

But I just, I want to reiterate, like, two points per game per team is a fucking huge number. Like, that's a lot in terms of like the history of the NFL. And so I'm like, generally speaking, I'm just like, I'm done with RASF, man. Like this, they didn't need to bring these taunting calls back, or sorry, they didn't need to bring the taunting calls thing at all. and they didn't need to bring the holding calls back, in my opinion.

And it's not just because I have fantasy brain. It's just like the pace of the game. I don't want to see the officials. NFL officials should be like Milford men, neither seed nor hurt. Like, unless it's egregious, just let him play. That's all that's all right. That's a good one, D.K. Honestly, that could have been number one.

Rant over. All right. Let's move on. Craig. I am not thankful for Ben Rothesberger, Kevin Colbert, or Mike Tomlin. I'm going to throw him in there, too. I love the company. Wow.

The guy who's never had a losing season. Just, you know, this is how I'm feeling right now. Perhaps I'm a victim of the moment. But it's a miracle this team is a winning record, honestly. They're 5, 4 and 1, shouts out the defense. This team is dead last in PFF offensive grade. Their offense is awful. It's a grandpa driving a Ferrari.

And, you know, I can be mad about Ben Rothesberger because he's the grandfather driving this Ferrari, filled with Najee Harris and Deonti Johnson, Claypool, Friamuth, Juju, so much talent on this offense. And we are terrible. We're 29th in yards per pass, yet still somehow bottom 10 in completion,

which means we're throwing short patches and not even fucking completing them. That's a stat right there. Yeah. This offense is maddening. And why I put Kevin Colbert in is because I'm upset that we don't have any backup options. We've stuck with Mason Rudolph for now.

What is this year four or five? Great point. We brought in Dwayne Haskins. Awesome. We didn't plan anything for this 39-year-old quarterback who was clearly washed. We have no plan B for him, clearly after watching the Steelers,

fucking tie the lions. It could have had Mike White, Craig. We could have had Mike White. Bill says Gardner Minshue for every team. I agree about the Steelers. I like Gardner vinschu too, actually, yeah. Me too. And then with Mike Tomlin,

what I'm upset about is that we brought in Matt Canada, right? Or we didn't bring him in. We promoted Matt Canada to be the O.C. And he's this, you know, West Coast, a lot of movement, play action. Basically, Ben Ryan's like, nah. And Tomlin was like, okay, that's fine, Ben. We'll just suck again.

Sure. Canada, you just sit there. You sit there and we'll run. Ben's place. So I'm not thankful for any of these three. Canada, this is America and we're running. Canadian West Coast. You thought it was going to be like California West Coast. It's just like up there in Vancouver.

I have nothing to add. That was a great that was very funny. Wow, this is really just fantasy therapy describes this power hour. We're all just getting it out. Halfway through the year, we're just like, I'm mad. Poor nods running to the ground. Ben's throwing hospital balls left and right. I hate it. Unbelievable. All right. Well, Craig, if you're talking about your team, it's time for me to talk about my team. I am not

thankful. right now for Pete Carroll and Shane Waldron, Seahawks, Russell Wilson, any of them. I'm just really not thankful. Look, I understand. I acknowledge 10 years of pretty good fucking football over the years. And so, like, hey, I'm going to say that. I'm going to put that out there. And now I'm going to complain a lot.

Shane Waldron, with all due respect. With all due respect, sir, you were supposed to be. You were supposed to be our savior. You were supposed to be the chosen one. as Obi-Win-Kennobie once famously said. I actually don't really blame Shane Waldron. I don't think he's been good. I don't think he's been like what we hoped he would be

or what he was or what the offense looked like in week one. Like they beat the Colts in week one. And I put together a cut-up. It was like awesome. There's so much pre-snap motion, movement, misdirection, deception. It was awesome. They haven't seen much of that or nearly as much as that since.

And I think it's because Pete Carroll's influence on this offense is still just too strong. like you can't you can't separate Pete Carroll from the offense like this is who the Cioxs are going to be under Pete Carroll and frankly on that note though can I ask you a question

because Stephen Rie's way to wrote a good piece that was basically Shane Waldron comes from this Rams McVeigh tree where you're supposed to attack the middle of the field oh that's what I was just going to say is kind of too short to attack the middle of the field

because we like to pretend with Baker and Kyler and Russ that the height doesn't matter they just come up with ways around it Russ's way is to not throw to the middle of the field like is that something you think they actually discuss though?

I don't know. It doesn't feel like they're going to ever say that really, like explicitly. Not publicly, but to each other. Like, do you think Russ can say like, no, I don't do the middle of the field? I don't know. It's weird. Corderbacks are weird like that. Like, you have to treat him with kid gloves sometimes. Oh, yeah, you have to protect his ego. You can't be like, hey, we obviously know Russ can't throw middle the field. All right, apologies to Tom, Tom, let's keep going, because I sense D. D.K. really should get this out before he deals with family on Thanksgiving. Hyphins, I was actually going to say literally what we were saying, like, obviously,

that Pete Carroll, you can't separate Pete Carroll from the Seahawks offense. Also, frankly, you can't separate Russell Wilson from the schemes that they are capable of running. And so it's just a giant mess right now. And it's not nearly what we thought it was going to be in this off season. It's not nearly what it has been in the past. In fact, Seattle, all of a sudden, and since this is a fantasy podcast, let's talk about that. Seattle is a fantasy wasteland. Like, they're on par with, like, the Texans and Jags offensively this year.

Oh, my God. I put together some stats. The Seahawks have run 550 plays this year, which is the fewest by any team, by 40. Not by a little. Oh my God.

That's like almost the game. The Chiefs have run more than 200 more plays in the Seahawks. They have played one more game, but like that just gives you an idea. Like the Seahawks number one are, they're not running,

they're not running fast. They're running slightly more up-tempo than they were last year, but they're not running enough plays. They're not getting first downs. I saw this for Mitch Rebar. Seattle has run 60 offensive plays just twice in a game this season.

The next closest team is the Texans. They've done it four times. Wow. That's crazy. So is that the strategy, though, that it's like, well, we suck. So, like, if there's the fewer plays, more variability comes into play and the games are closer. No.

Well, generally, yes. No. No. Over the years. Over the years, yes. That has been the game plan, like basically, you know, shortening the game, trying to put it on your quarterback to win,

in the last quarter and entrusting your defense, blah, blah, blah. However, this year, I think the game plan hasn't changed. They're just been so much less efficient. They can't get first downs. They can't get first downs in this season. Russell Wilson, this is from Rebar, 13 to 7, 13 to 37 on third downs, lowest completion rate in the league among qualifying quarterbacks, 27% first down rate, last. 5.9 yards per attempt, 33rd.

He's been sacked 22%, no, 23% of his third down dropback. highest in the NFL. Wow. The Seahawks have punted on 22% of their offensive series. So in other words, 22% of the time when they get a first down, this isn't possessions, this is a series.

They punt, which is second worst. Only the Texans are worse than that. Sounds like they need San Diego State's punter Matt Ariza, baby. Dude, I'm serious. They're going to freaking draft this guy. Seattle is averaged 17.8 fewer offensive plays per game than their opponent.

their opponents are averaging 18 more plays per game, which is worse in the NFL. The Seahawks defense, I saw this, my buddy Mike texted me this. The Seahawks defense has run 178 more plays than the offense, which is like the equivalent of roughly three games. The defense has played roughly three more games than the offense. They should put D.K. Metcalf on defense then, use them more.

Seriously. There's a snap right up. Who was the quarterback? Was it Brock Heward, the former backup quarterback, on Twitter this week who was flaming the Seahawks and basically like this team needs to look itself in the mirror and basically was like defensively was like this secondary

cannot pattern match like they like they cannot communicate they don't know what routes are being run and you know a defense you kind of snap into place right like based on what happens everyone snaps into what their job is and he's like they just seem incapable of that which is a problem considering that's literally Pete Carroll's main job as a secondary coach that's like his background and it's like I don't know what

the Seahawks do well. Yeah, I don't either. This is a team that gave away its first round picks because it thought it was a Super Bowl contender. I don't think Seahawks fans, like, people make fun of the Seahawks have been good for basically the entire time Pete Carroll's been here.

You guys have a weird cardiac. I feel like for real, though, we have legitimate reason to be, like, upset this year. Also, the Seahawks suck. You sound dramatic about, but it's true is that your style of plays bad for your health. Like, it is crazy how often your games come down to stressful moments.

Dude, you don't even know, like, you have no idea how many people I've talked to either. I just don't like watching the Seahawks. Like, they're not, like, they win, that's fine. Like, I was stressed the whole time. I didn't enjoy it. Like, this isn't fun. Why am I choosing to do this? All right, let's keep going here.

Number six, I am not thankful for Kyle Shanahan. Hell yeah. I can't handle this anymore. And it feels like I'm in a twisted relationship. Like, we were kind of into Trace, Cernan. He just buried Tray Serman out the gate. Brandon Ayuk got buried and it was kind of like some people cut Brandon Ayuk. And while I didn't, it was hard to tell people not to do that if you needed to win because like he wasn't even playing.

Forget being good. I cut him. Yeah. It's like now Brandon Ayuk is back. And let me tell you something. We have the Memento tattoo. We're like, don't trust Kyle Shanhan. He's like Teddy in Memento.

Like don't trust anything he says. He's a sweet talker. You're going to be like, wow, look how's effortlessly they score. And let me tell you the worst part. I'm going to get sucked in next year. We're going to hear about Trey Lance next year. I'm going to be like, mobile quarterbacks. You know, the rushing yards thing is dumb, but that's the rules.

So like Trey Lance and it's going to happen again. And I already, like, how do I leave? How do I leave this relationship with Kyle Shannon? Like, I don't want the nine years. I don't want to be on the Niners running backs. And yet what do we say? God, I hate Kyle Shannon. Let's spend $50 half of our fab on Elijah Mitchell.

Like idiots. I'm a moron. And I didn't even have Debo Samuel. God damn it, man He's like the lost arc You ought to just close your eyes You know, you can't be sucked into it The 49ers are the lost arc

Just don't open your eyes Don't stare in your ears You can't hear the siren song Yeah, like the Odyssey We really, we should do that actually We should put like the audits Yeah, they put the cotton in their ears We should do that

Or Medusa or Voldemort We just look at them in the mirror For like the basilisk High Fitz earmuffs Put some wool in your ear Don't look now, Craig The 49ers are fifth in offensive sorry, their fifth and weighted DVOA.

We're getting sucked back in. God damn it. They're good. Like the 49ers are good. It only takes two weeks for I think people to decide if a team is good or not. Like a team can be shitty for six straight weeks, have two back-to-back good games, and then we're like, yeah, they're good. God damn.

This is the NFL. It's going to be like nine-year's playoffs. Oh! I hate him. Okay. Next up. God, that got me going. Okay.

Number seven. Here's something I'm not thankful for. Injuries in the NFL. And I know. that we're kind of having fun with all of this. And, you know, we're not going to try and laugh about injuries, but like injuries have been really shitty this year. I feel like recency bias hits, and every year it feels a little like this is the worst ever. But is this maybe like the worst season for injuries ever? It really feels that way. It's got to the point, Craig, you've mentioned

this. Every time anybody makes a catch or runs the football, I'm like looking at the pile and I'm like, please get up, please get up, please get up, please don't be hurt. Oh, is he limping? He's limping. Oh, God, he's limping. And then the TV goes away and now I'm like searching on Twitter. Oh, God, is he hurt? All the beat reporters are saying he's okay. It's like, this happens like 65 times a week.

Yeah, we're all nervous Jewish mothers watching it like the high school football game from the stands. And we're just like, oh my God, is my son all right? Can I say it? I think I have a skill. I think I have a very unique skill. And I'm sure other people will say they do this too. All I do when I'm watching a game and my fantasy players in the game, let's say Mike Williams, I will only watch them.

and when they make like a really simple random, you know, insignificant, like, eight-yard catch, I just stare at them as the camera goes away from them as they get up. And I'm really good at identifying if they, like, got up with a slight limp, but they stayed down for a little bit too long. And then I just see them kind of like, do this, you know, they like wave somebody in to come in,

like a backup for them. Because they try to play it off and they're just like, yes, get someone else in the other place. And the announcers don't say it. And I'm like, Mike Williams, just tweak something. I know he did. I could see it. This, dude.

Mother's instinct. This happened last week. Rashad Penny, first run, 18-yard run. great. It was like, yes, he's back. He immediately starts waving to the, to the sideline. He's like, I'm like, dude, it's been one play. Why are you taking yourself out? Like, you can't be gassed already. And then it's like, oh, Rashad Penny on the sidelines, not sure why. We're going to need to wait to get an update from Michelle Tofoya. And you're like, no, I saw it. Something tweaked. Dude, Mike Evans did that during Monday, NFL if you got Mike Evans. I don't care what the practice.

I don't know, but he did the wave. Like, I get me out of here. The other one is like, Craig, When Najee Harris against the Chargers had that hit, first of the there were two. He got the hit in the head. But before that, there was also this really awkward part where his leg was like, like it looked like UFC. Like they got the leg and he's trying to move and someone else hits him. And Troy Aikman like gasp and he's like,

that's a young knee to survive that hit. And I was like, oh my God, Nashi, do not tear your ACL, trying to get two more yards in this game, you're going to lose. Also, he was definitely concussed. And it's, I feel like everyone watching football at home can tell when players are concussed more than any doctor can on the side. Dude, I don't believe. I can tell you when any player,

is concussed. I do, all right, the Tom Tom's here. I'll link here for one more second just to say, the independent neurologist

that supposedly watch these games, I, there is a missing, something is missing here, but the prerogative they have that supposedly they can pull any player

off when they want, just seems to be a little off. Honestly, get me on a headset. I'll tell you. I'll tell you who's concussion. It's some of the things they miss. Yeah. But,

and also, I will just quickly say to D.K., I think 2017, is worse for injuries. I know. I'm guessing it's actually not the worst, but it feels bad.

Every year, I think it feels like this. I looked down our final top 50 for fantasy this year, our rankings. Also, three, I will say to your point, though,

there have been like way more guys stretched it off this year, even at a precaution. There have been a lot more moments where you're like, oh my God, this is a guy,

okay, which has been horrible. Didn't we do this like a few episodes ago? We went through like the top 30 fantasy options and like three were either, like three out of the 30 were healthy and good.

Everyone else was hurt or is busted. The only positive thing I'll say, this is a weird note. The only positive thing I'll say is I think it's more okay for players to say that, like mentally,

like I don't feel okay. True. Lay Johnson, Calvin Ridley, A.J. Brown talked about depression earlier this month. And that part, that's a huge positive

that guys can do it. And largely there's been no skip bailesses or whatever in the media criticizing them. I think it's been, so that part's actually a huge positive. But otherwise,

yeah, the injuries have sucked. Okay. number eight this is kind of a parlay from with number seven just the dread that is fantasy football in 2021 I'm not thankful for it

it feels like one of the worst fantasy seasons in a while it's just all over the place it's unpredictable day in a day out I got no stats for you this is just vibes this is the way it feels it's just these crushing

inexplicable losses the injuries just not knowing what's going to happen cordarale Patterson just being great and pick your top running back who's been terrible.

It's, or who got hurt. I think it's the quarterbacks, too. The people who draft to quarterback early, you have Mahomes, you probably took them first. Mahomes, I mean,

the entire football media, industrial complex was like, why does Mahomes suck? Kyler Murray's hurt. Josh Allen is not being what Josh, what you thought Josh Allen will be. Lamar's missing games with illnesses like. It's too high.

That's, how do we not put that? I know. How did we do? Wait, we didn't even list of, what are we doing? What are we doing?

What are we doing? What a whiff? I'm not being fanged for the two. what? Maybe that's what it is. Maybe that's what it is. It's just covered too. But like, like, Dak Prescott, what do you have? Like, two points last week? It just feels like this shit never used to happen. The whole thing was just like, oh, if I draft

Dak Prescott, I don't have to worry about a guy scoring two points because I have that Scott. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. Hold on, hold on. To punctuate this whole thing. Someone tweeted to me a lineup that the last week, week, I can't keep that time. 10. The line has scored 120 points. This week, it scored 11.

This guy's 8 and 2. He's 8 and 2. And their point one, yeah, eight and two teams. And he scored 11 points today. The person who tweeted it at me made the point that if you actually just pick guys off of waivers with the intent of being like,

I'm going to pick guys who will play and have the least few possible points you couldn't get 11. Like the guy at T. Higgins, who had a terrible game, sorry if we pumped T. Higgins for you. Dak Prescott, the Bills D, which had negative four,

C.D. Lamb, who had a point. Kyle Pitts, like, 11 points. That is incredible. That's how weird this year is. It's like hitting, it's like hitting, tails 16 straight times. Like really is.

Oh my God. Okay. Next up. Craig. I have no affiliation with this team personally, with the Atlanta Falcons have just pissed me off this year. I am not thankful for the Atlanta Falcons. No. Dude, I started to buy back in too, like three weeks ago. Like Matt Ryan's played pretty well. They're going along, you know, like starting to hit their groove.

And their offense has been dog shit for the last two games. like the worst I've ever seen. The fact that Arthur Smith went to the Falcons and then everything just got worse kind of sucks. You know, the offensive guru who turned around Ryan Tannehill's career. Matt Ryan was the quarterback 13 last year.

He's the quarterback 20 now. Mike Davis is a disaster. Before Calvin Ridley stepped away, he wasn't playing that well. Kyle Pitts, let's be honest, had two great weeks. And other than that has kind of been a big disappointment. And then somehow just toss in the fact

that Cordarell Patterson is like perhaps in the running for fantasy MVP. I just hate the Falcons. And no other backup receiver can do anything with. Also, we really didn't spend enough time talking about how like 28 to 3 for the Falcons is in the Super Bowl is like this global meme.

And then when the Falcons play the fucking Patriots on Thursday football, there is a once in 600 year eclipse that lasted three hours and 28 minutes. Like the heavens and the cosmos and for those of you who subscribe to the belief in a higher power

coinciding to be like, yo, this team sucks. cursed. Even the Braves winning the World Series cannot actually change the Falcons being a freaking laughingstock from the actual Cosmos itself. Yeah, the Falcons, you just can't quit them,

but I'm done. I'm so unthankful for them. I don't want to, I hate to point this out because I love Pitts, and I think Pitts is going to be a super star in league, but you know who has more points per game than Kyle Pitts? Oh my God, is Pat Friarmouth? Oh, you're saying Dawson Knox.

Doss and I was going to say he's probably, is Pat Friarmooth is coming up passing Kyle Pitts is the best rookie fantasy tight end. That's in play. He's pretty good. I mean, he was always pretty good. Pits is good. We don't, we love Piss. We know Pits is good, but his fantasy season has been underwhelming and disappointing. Yeah, well, he'll be all right.

All right. Number 10, D.K. We touched on this briefly the other day. The Jaguars. I'm just not thankful for the Jags this year. I was, I allowed myself to have a little bit of hope. I know that you probably could go back and find a quote or two in the summer. You two were drunk on the Jaguars. And I regret letting Craig did that to us. It was a 48-hour stretch

where we were like, Jacks. No, Craig took us on a Jaguar's bender, like someone taking you through Vegas. We did the ringer thing. I participated, but like I should have trusted my instincts. We did the ringer thing where we were like,

are we sure the Jags are bad? Are we sure? I was testing out power hour literally before, you guys didn't know that, but I was actually drunk. It was the football version of like an ill-fated trip to the bathroom at three in the morning.

And I'm like, you know what? This is a bad idea. Yeah. So that was a huge error in judgment, I think, by both of us, Craig. Urban Meyer isn't very good at this.

It doesn't seem like. And also, and I admit to being a little bit more positive about the effect that Darrell Bevel could have on this offense end, Brian Schaenheimer. I don't think they're good at this either. The way you said that was so, I don't think they're good at this. Well, so, like, I haven't... Their defense is getting all right. I have not done a deep dive on the Jags offense.

I've been relying on the things that I've read and the things I see on Twitter. And based on those things, people that are in not... analyzing these things really closely. Like, the route concepts are really terrible. Like, they're not getting guys open in the short and intermediate area for Trevor Lawrence. It's, like, all really deep, like, long developing plays. And, like, they're just asking Trevor Lawrence to do all the shit. Lawrence is going to be incredible when they fire the staff.

And if you're in a Dynasty League, you should trade for Trevor Lawrence. Because Trevor Lawrence is going to be fucking unbelievable. Yeah, I agree. And no one really has thought about him really this season more than twice. That being said, he is, we had him ranked relatively highly because he has, like, that sneaky running upside. and all that, we're kind of like buying into this idea that they could be playing from behind game scripts.

It's going to be a lot of points. Trevor Lawrence is the QB 32 in Peeb in points for game. I think that we should have trusted our instincts when they hired the two former Sealks offensive coordinators and run their office. What were they doing? You probably should have realized that was a red flag. All right.

Next up, Craig. I am very unthankful for the biopocalypse. What a horrible week. Perhaps the worst ever. Yeah, that's funny. Football. That was week seven. Let me remind everybody. The bills, the cowboys, the Jags, Chargers, the Vikings, and the Steelers all had buys that week and simultaneously collapsed fantasy football for seven days. It felt like a supernova star exploded. It's like a stock market crash. It's like

this is going to take us three years. It was 2008. That's what that week, week seven was the 2008. We need to have public confidence in fantasy football. Like we got to have to like juice the system here. My fantasy team was the Lehman Brothers Is that the name of the company that went down? That was my fantasy I literally started an empty spot that week Because I could just out on the street We're doing start sitting

We're just like Ben Bernanke and Hank Paulson Just be like I just triage triage Save the whole system Yeah just I mean A really unique I can't ever remember something like that in fantasy Dude that was that was nuts Remember all the memes about the year 2020 Like 2021 is

That was yeah it was up 20-20 to wait It was, I think that I started to realize how bad it was when all the fantasy, I hate to say this word, but the fantasy experts that I, you know, it's kind of like this insular community and we're all somewhat aware of each other, all kind of looked at each other. We're like, do your team suck this week? Because my team suck all of them. Matthew Barry's been doing this for 25 years and he was like, this is the worst week I've ever seen. It reminds you when Mel Kuyper was like, Kyle Pitts is unquestionably the best titan I've ever seen. I'm like, well, he's been doing it long enough. That's good enough for me.

same with when Barry's like yeah all right I'll trust you by apocalypse was awful although to be clear I will never make a draft decision off by weeks even having said that we've been through the worst of it and I still feel that way so I never want to hear about it

you're still pumping all your money into stocks you don't care you're not putting any in the mattress let's build it right back up again baby yeah exactly all right next up Number 12, last one. I'm just gonna, you know what?

I'm not thankful for Jason Garrett again. I'm doing it again. We're going back. I don't give a shit. I'm not over with it. I cannot believe the Giants, like you're supposed to know your enemy. You're supposed to know your division rivals

better than any other team. Not like other teams. You should know better than another team. And for 10 years, the Giants watched Jason Garrett guide the Cowboys slowly away from victory. And it kind of reminds me of what D.K. all the time about fourth and one.

Like sometimes the analytics people get so caught up in the math. They forget how to communicate with people. The analytics backs of common sense, which is for some fourth and one, what are the other fans want you to do? And then do the opposite. The only way you should coach. Yeah.

Like you should just be like, oh, they all want you to punt, go for it. That's what I felt like when the Giants hired Jason Garrett. All the Cowboys fans were, yeah, yeah, yeah, do it, do it. Hire Jason Garrett, please.

Oh, no. Like, they were so happy. I got so many texts that were like, good luck with that. And it's like, dude, I can't believe they did it. How, like, what is the excuse? Because when you hire a coach that sucks, sometimes you're like, oh, man, can't believe they didn't work out. They knew!

Oh, my God. Did you ever talk yourself into it for any moment? Was there ever a week where you're like, eh? I think it's a bit, but like deep down, no. I think that there was one week. I think when they almost beat the bucks last year, actually, almost ironically, they should have gone to overtime in Tampa Bay. and really the only reason they did is Daniel Jones

was missing throws, but like Jason Garrett, that's his best game as a as a coordinator because they really should have beaten Tampa Bay and they really just kind of made some execution mistakes. But that was like, all right, maybe he knows what he's doing. But man,

I think this is the most predictable thing I've ever seen it in football, at least to me, like Jason Garrett, not, okay, I'm going to stop talking about this. The Giants are like the prototypical cocoon keepers.

You know what I mean? Like, they're hired good. Gettelman because they'd worked. Gettlement, who has no concept of positional value or traffic value. He doesn't know what things cost. Anyways, my family sits around the Thanksgiving dinner table. Let me tell you something.

We're going to sit around with it. We are thankful Jason Garrett is no longer running the Giants offense. All right. That is power hour. Yes. I can't believe we didn't specifically do too high. This was like kind of fantasy therapy for me. I like the idea of I'm going to tell my family this year.

I'm going to be like, hey, let's go around and say what we're not thankful for. That's kind of funny. It's actually. If anybody does that at home, if anybody listening to this episode before dinner, before your Thanksgiving dinner, and tries this out, let us know how it went. You don't have to ask my family to do this, Craig.

This is basically Festivist. It's the airing of grievances. Yeah, it really is. I think that Festivist should just be before Thanksgiving instead of Christmas. Yeah, give it a shot. Yeah, please email us at ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com. If anyone actually does that at their Thanksgiving table,

we'll share. Okay. Also do a power hour at your dinner. Also do a power at, yeah. All right, let's get to some emails. Some funny emails you guys sent. Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com. Email us if you have funny things like these stories.

Okay. A lot of spleen talk. We got a lot of spleen talk. Splienails. Because Justin Fields had the whole spleen thing. And so a lot of you really want to tell us about your spleen. Okay. Didn't a quarterback rupture their spleen?

Like, didn't Sam Donald? Well, Sam Darnold had mono and had to do it. But speaking of which. I got an email from Grant here about spleen talk. Speaking of which. Some Grant. Hi, guys. I always perk up when I hear talk of bursting spleens.

Because I can still feel the pain of my spleen bleeding out. Oh, God. As Biggie always said, ruptured spleen at the age of 16 fuck a football team. That is a quote. In my junior year of college at USC, which is South Carolina, the real USC,

I was playing safety at my intramural, intramural flag football team, I jumped up to defend a pass when the intended receiver and my friend covering him barreled into my side. After blacking out for a second, I finished the game,

borderline crying from pain, I thought I'd cracked a rib. I proceeded to go out after our win. Of course. And I pushed through the pain until voiding all of my bodily fluids on the floors and or wall. Voiding.

And passing out in the bathroom of a nice young woman who had invited me to her home that evening. Wow, this is a lot of bragging. This is a lot of sneaky bragging in this. But I like it. It's a little USC.

She proceeded to drive me to the ER at 3 a.m. and had to accompany me until my parents arrived hours later. The next few days were the most excruciating pain of my life. I experienced the class four spleen rupture. Five is the worst. And I was bleeding out internally onto my sciatic nerve, causing sharp pain from feet to head. Wow.

This doesn't sound good. After four days in a small procedure I was out, technology is insane. moral of the story, don't play flag football with motto. Thank you, Biggie and Junior Mafia. And Lucy, an actual medical student, write that the reason spleen's rupture when you have motto, like Sam Donald did, which is why he didn't rupture, but he couldn't play, is because your spleen enlarges to deal with the motto.

So you're vulnerable. The trash can gets bigger. Just swollen. Oh, God. Sounds painful. It becomes trash day in your buddy. The part where he talks about how, like, he got out of the hospital for four days, like definitely is like a funny point.

It's like, you can be very severely injured and just like, wait, they're letting me leave now? Like, I'm allowed to go. Like, I can, that was like after we gave birth, not we, you know, I didn't actually do it, but as a family. It was like, oh, we're allowed to leave now? Like,

you're just going to let us take this baby and go? What are we supposed to do with this thing? I don't know how to take care of this. Yeah, like, it's so weird. Good luck with that whole thing. I still think the weirdest thing about you know, raising a baby so they can't drink water

for like the first, what is it, six months of their life? Something like that. It's electrolytes. That is the weirdest thing to me that you can't feed a human child water. I think it's insane. Well, they get liquid from,

and hold their milk. Yeah, breast milk. I understand that. But it's just so weird that water, I can never imagine water being bad for any living thing in any moment. It's odd. It's actually, I think it's concerning your kidneys,

maybe, or liver. Were you guys not interested in the guy you emailed this? erupted discipline. I thought this was a great email. I feel like we got off it real quick. It was a good email. It sounds like he went to University of Southern California, though, the way he's talking about being at that

lady's house. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're right. A little uppity there. Okay, Aaron. Aaron. Aaron writes, fun Aaron. Fun fact, the Blue Stones is the name of a somewhat newer and amazing rock band, that it would be thought it would be good and relevant band to think at the end of an episode. Sadly, they're from Ontario

and have virtually no accents. But they do have good songs. Craig, can we get another blue stone? please. Blue Stone? Have we gotten any... Thank you. That was good.

Have we gotten any emails critiquing your accent? I don't know. Yeah, a lot of people are really unhappy with this, but it's... Oh, they're saying I did a terrible job too. Well, I can see Craig,

I can see Highfitz and I. That one... You know what I mean? Why is it when Craig does that? Is it like ASMR? You know what I mean? It's kind of like... The Australian accent is lovely.

It's like calming. It's like, yeah, that just really reset me. Thank you for that, Craig. People, I don't think we've ever talked to this, before every episode we do quiet time because like when you record it you got to have like blank space like audio to like fill in whatever for what i'm like hacking up along or something it's like yeah

it is the absolute best part of my day every day feels good for five seconds we all close our eyes and just let the silence take over us it literally it occurred to me the other day that like maybe death would not be so bad because i enjoy quiet so much that's the nihilistic angle it's like actually death might be nice yeah it's the best part of my day don't do anything all right Fantasy court. All right. It's from Jenna. Jenna.

Danny, D.K., Craig, I have been playing fantasy football in multiple leagues for 11 seasons. Wow. This year, I used your draft rankings for the first time and have been sitting firmly in first place since week two. All right. Ad is an ad for us. After I lost Derek Henry and Chase Edmonds to Injure Reserve, I used your trade suggestions to trade for Sequin Barclay and Aaron Jones. and this is where my problem begins. Kind of a quick dub for us and then a quick L.

No longer an ad. No longer an ad. No longer a testimonial. I couldn't predict that Aaron Jones is going to get hurt, right? My husband and I have been in this league together for eight years. We have never attempted a trade because we assumed everyone would automatically call collusion. I have also never attempted to trade in this league period because I am the commissioner. It's kind of sad that the commissioner thinks they'd be called out.

Yeah, that should, that's upsetting that that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, the temperature of this league. But that's apparently how it goes. So Jenna continues, needing and starting running back, I made trade offers to five managers in the league. My team, which is called runs like a girly.

That's pretty good. Good one. My team offered to trade Jalen Waddle to my husband, whose team name is Boats and Ho's. A little bit less creative for the hubby. Such a dude thing to do. I don't know why we're like that.

All right. My husband's team name, Big Boobes, ha ha. Why are the guys team names just like, Sex puns. God damn it. Jenna's team

trades Jalen Waddle to her husband's team for Aaron Jones. Now it's her voice. She continues. I made the deal knowing that Jones would not be available

till the playoffs and my husband accepted my trade. My husband is in 12th place. Clearly his boat is sinking and I'm just trying to save the hose. Nice. So wait,

so she traded for Aaron Jones after the injury. She traded for Aaron Jones for a playoff run. After the injury? No, but yes, yes. Because otherwise this trade wouldn't make sense.

She traded Jalen Waddle. That's like not giving up nothing. She traded Waddle for Jones for when Jones returns. If it was pre-injury, that would be a pretty... But post, he's hurt. Like, that's pretty fair. Yeah, if it's post-injury, that's a reasonable trade. Yeah. She made the trade knowing he wouldn't be available.

Okay, so one vocal member of the league, who is my husband's college roommate and his best friend, believes this is collusion because my husband already has five receivers on his roster. So in this manager's opinion, my husband doesn't need another receiver. And then Jenna goes on to note that her husband's receivers have all underperformed and that Waddle would start for her husband. So the guy complaining is kind of being a bitch.

Anyway, we are a commissioner approval league. So I notified the group chat that I was involved in a trade before I approved it. And only this one manager, my husband's best friend, seemed to have an issue. My policy as commissioner has always been that I don't make valuations on trades. I just confirm that both managers think the trade works for them. The league needs a ruling for all. trades going forward, or we're going to be dealing with people calling collusion on every trade

between a winning team and a losing team from now until forever. What do I do? Sincerely, Jenna, the fucking Catalina wine mixer commissioner. I don't think one that's... This is not collusion, and I think this is just something everyone's going to have to get over. I've seen way worse trades than this. This is not that bad of a trade. Jaylon is a wide receiver too, and he's been trending in the... the right direction and Aaron Jones is hurt. I also do what Jenna does here. I'm the commissioner of my favorite league and my policy is the same as hers. I don't make valuations on trades.

I make sure that both managers agree to the trade. I don't ask anybody else. And then I send it through. And if I see something that seems a little suspicious, I will bring it up and we can all talk about and vote on it if I think it's really bad. But in general, as long as the two people agree on it and I don't see anything fishy, I send it through. So the court has followed up for the discovery process. And Genesis, so remember how she sent five trades out to five other managers and her husband accepted. Were they all of equal value? Well, so Jenna writes

that the manager did not relent the guy complaining, the husband's best friend. And in retaliation for what he believed was an unfair trade, he proposed ridiculous trades to five other managers, like Zeke straight up for Daniel Jones, and claimed that since the players were ranked

about 30 spots apart, no one would take the trade seriously. One of the trades got accepted. He traded Miles Gaskin for Amari Cooper. And he was obviously getting the better end of the deal with Gaskin, you know, in the bird book and Cooper being Cooper. But obviously the trade went through and it processes just before the start of week 11. And then Amari Cooper gets COVID. And so Amari Cooper will miss the next two weeks.

And she says she wonders if this is fantasy karma for this guy. So this is the best friend sent out a trade saying, hey, I'll give out Miles Gaskin. I'll give out ridiculous trade despite her. gets what accepted is like, ha, ha, ha, see, this is how you're supposed to do it. This is ridiculous, but I'm going to take advantage because this are the rules you had. And then the guy he trades for is now missing the next two games. Yeah, this is awesome. So what is the actual question here?

Like, the league needs a ruling for all trades going forward. She's getting called out. And basically, it's ridiculous. Like, she, like, that's ridiculous. This guy should mind his own business. He shouldn't be telling the people what to do. Here's how I feel about this. He's in 12th place and he's a running back who isn't going to play.

in three for three weeks. Like, what is Aaron Jones mean to him? I feel like commissioners should have the ultimate end of the day. They have to say on what's going to happen in the league because they created the league. They started it. And generally speaking, and they're the commissioners. They're doing most of the work. Commissioners should not feel bad about doing trades themselves.

If 10 of the other 11 people or however many people in this league thought that the trade was fine, like there's no problem here. Just continue to go about, like, status quo, like, you're going to approve or disprove the trades going forward. Like, this is clearly not a collusion type trade. I mean, take it up this way. I would throw this case out. This is like we're not even making it. There's nothing there.

Yeah. We're not even making a determination. This doesn't even make it to Supreme or to a fantasy court. Honestly, what you should do is if you got rid of the manager's names, the team is involved in this trade and you just looked at the trade straight up. Would anybody bat and I? Probably not. No. Jenna, we support you.

And honestly, I think we just support commissioners in general. I think the only, honestly, a lot of these cases just come down to, like, respect the commissioner. The hardest ones I felt are like when the commissioner is fucking around. It's, I feel like, here, 90% of these questions, I swear, come down to some person just being a little bitch about something. Like, somebody who's just upset because a trade is helping out somebody who's a direct. Also, here's a great framework. There has been one trade vetoed in the four professional sports leagues in, like, someone. like our lifetime, which seems relevant.

Chris Hall. Like when the lake, like when, when Pao Gasol gets traded from like the Grizzlies to the Lakers, the other 28 teams can't be like, you didn't get a no, no. No, you know what? The Lakers just got the player. Like you can't be, anyway. Okay.

That's all we got. I am thankful for D.K. and Craig, you guys are great. And I'm very thankful for everyone listening. Like, we actually really legit, like, really appreciate all you guys that have stuck with us through this season. I have a lot of fun doing the show, and I love when people email us, ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. And like, I appreciate that you guys seem to love this show too. And it honestly means a lot when you guys reach out. And honest to God, like, thank you for

listening to us this season. It's been awesome. Well said. I echo everything. I appreciate you guys. Thankful for the fact that we get to watch football and talk about football and it's fun. And I know that we did just complain about a lot of stuff, but it was also very therapeutic. So I'm just, I'm just thankful for that. and I'm thankful for you guys. And I'm thankful, like I've said, for people that email, we don't always email back because frankly we get a lot of emails

but we see them, we read them and we appreciate them. So thank you for that. If we didn't respond to one, please don't let that stop you from sending more in the future because we really try to get them as much as we can. That's a good point.

Yeah, we almost, other than doing the players we're not thankful for, our second choice was to power rank every single listener we have, but we figured it would take to one. Oh my God. That would be pretty good.

Bill Simmons, number one. You're out there. All right. Thank you guys. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, Dolly Parton.

Whoa. Oh, what a classic right over there. D.K is on such a hot streak. With these, these, although what happened to Blue Stone? I thought we were going to thank Blue Stone. Yeah, I didn't want to say it. Oh, the Blue Stones? Yeah.

Go Blue Stones. Doll is a good one, though. She just had, I don't know if it's just, but she had a book come out recently and it's like her whole life and a friend of mine had it. It is beautiful to look through. It's huge and it's so well illustrated.

I don't remember the exact name. I just Google Dolly Parton book and you can look through it and it's like, it explains the meaning behind her song. It's so beautiful to thumb through. You guys probably know this, but you know the Whitney Houston song, I will always love you?

Does she write that? That's a Dolly Parton song, yeah. Wow. If people listening love Dolly Parton, look up this Dolly Parton book or someone you know loves Dolly Parton, probably be an elite Christmas gift. It's incredible to thumb through. She also had an ice cream flavor just came out recently with Jenny's. Also, we're bearing the lead here. The investment that led to the vaccine.

She's going to be at his, like, textbooks. Wait, the Queen of the Vax. I didn't actually know about this. She donated a million dollars. Dude, she don't. Let me look up the actual fact. God, she's such a fucking legend. Wait, look up.

I love Dolly Part. actually happened because it's such an incredible There's a Dolly Parton dock So this is funny This is NPR, this is well written Country music legend Dolly Parton got a taste of her own medicine on Tuesday When she received a dose of the COVID-19 vaccine Whose research she helped fund

That's really funny So what happened is A million dollars to Moderna Yeah To Vanderbilt University Wow really To Vanneville Yeah

And Medina was by far like the smaller of all the companies that did it. It's like, yeah, that's hilarious. Legend. Nine to five. Great song. Incredible. Oh, yeah. Incredible song. All right. Thank you, Dolly.