The Ringer NFL Show - Power-Ranking the Top Fantasy Trade-Deadline Targets

Episode Date: November 10, 2021

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My name is Danny Heifitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly, Craig Quirlebeck. And today it is Power Hour every week. We will be power ranking something every Wednesday during the season. And this week we are power ranking players you should trade for before the trade deadline, buy low candidates, whatever you want to call it. That's what we're power ranking. We're going to power rank them by name, value. The trade deadline for, I forget which is which. ESPN is November 20th and Yahoo's December 1st other way around. It's coming up.

Do you guys typically push back the trade deadline in fantasy or do you like to keep it at the earliest kind of standard time that the platform sets? I like pushing it back a little. Me too. What's the point of having it so early? Why do it so early? Well, I'll tell you, first of all, I messed that up. Yahoo's November 20th, EastBends December 1st. First of all, I usually like a later trade deadline, except now I'm in leagues where

if the trade deadline goes too back far and people who are completely out of it make trades, then people in the group chat lose their mind and threatened to quit, and that's where I'm at in all my leagues. That does happen. That is very true. It's like when it gets to friendships fraying, I no longer care when the trade deadline

is and just move it up so that we can just do that Thanksgiving football game and no one like yells at each other. That's really just really what I want to do. Yeah. So yeah, with that said, before we just dive in a power hour, I just wanted to kind of go through like a big overview of all this of like actual keys to actually getting a deal done because we, it's easy for us to just toss out by low candidates. But I actually think more important is actually finding a trade partner than a specific player. Because if you're in a league of 12, God forbid 10 people, D.K. Don't want to trigger you. If you're a league of 12 people.

I think it's pretty safe to say six of them, like, there's no way. You're going to get a deal done for whatever reason. Yeah, you actually have to, if you want to make a trade, you've got to go through each person's team and look at who needs what and what you can give them. And that's how you really decide. It's almost not the player. You don't just pick a player and trade for them, although that's what the show is. You have to go and look at people's teams what they have a surplus of that you can maybe exploit.

So if you need a running back, well, I bet eight other teams also need a running back. So they're out because, like, if they have Zeke Elliott and that's it, they're not going to give you Zeke Elliott. And so basically, you're really, if you're lucky, there will be four or five teams that are even on the table to make a deal with you. And then two of those owners won't even really be checking their teams or interested or get back to you.

One of the other team managers probably just like will be like, no thing. So really, you've really got two teams you're working with. And I think that that's more important. It's like if one of these players we're about to mention are on those teams, that's what matters. But prioritize the person you can actually work with over the actual players.

And then number two is you don't just send a tradeoff or blind. Like, you should really text them. And, like, you should be able to explain why the deal makes sense for them, especially in fantasy football where it's poor little honey in their ear. But don't explain it too well. Like, don't try too hard because then they're like, geez, dude, you're scamming me. Yeah. This is why it's great for you.

You can just say, like, hey, how do you feel about this? There's a lot of ways to get into it. The car sales is an approach. Like you can like, you know, place, you can be direct. You can just be like, hey, our team suck. You can get into it a thousand ways. Check out the art of the deal. It's a great book.

Oh my God. Exactly. Great. But the point being like when you actually need to make the deal, when you actually throw an offer out there, you should be able to explain it because you don't actually want to destroy every deal. Like you want to be able to, like, you don't want to insult anyone and then be in a league for someone with 10 years and they just think you're trying to like ruin them every deal.

There definitely is like an art too. massaging trade requests and things like that. So even if you get a trade request that is like insulting, a lot of the times I'll just be like, yeah, thanks for the, thanks for the request or whatever. I'm good now for now, but let's talk later if you have any other things. Like you got to be like so polite because I mean, personally, if I send a trade request and someone just like laughs at you and then like

sends it back or whatever, it's like, well, fuck this guy. I'm not going to ever try and like work with this person again. So bottom line, I think it's so crucial to find someone that you actually like talking to about trades because some people are just like, look, you're never going to make a deal with them because they value their players like twice as much as everybody else would or like a rational person would.

And so that's just out the window. So I like, bottom line, I'm always about trading with the person. I'm not, I'm actually less about the certain specific players and just like finding a good trade partner that you can actually like have a good conversation with. So I don't know if that actually helps with this podcast. There is the time honored tradition of ask them

what they want and see if you can give that to them. That's always a great strategy. Also, one other one I'm going to steal for Matthew Berry, which is that if you get 80% of what you want, take it, because you'll screw the whole thing up trying to get the last 20%. I think that's very true. Haggling is the worst. Like, it's generally speaking, sometimes when you get greedy right at the end, and then the whole thing falls apart. Avaricious people. All right. With all that said, okay, players you should target for, And really, again, this is like, if on those rosters that you have the two or three

managers you actually work with, you see one of these players, your ears should perk up. Okay. Yeah. D.K., who, we're power ranking these on name ranking. Yeah, this is like name power. So we all kind of agreed on this. Don't forget, every time you hear this sound, Tom Tom, Club, baby.

That's when you know it's time to move on and we likely will not abide by the time. I am going to work extremely hard at respecting the timer this week. Will you, D.K.? I'm going to try. I'm going to really try. All right. Get some haters on Twitter. talking about it.

Disrespecting Tom Tom. There's haters right now on this podcast. I hate that you disrespect Tom Tom. Yeah, okay. That's fair. All right. Start the timer.

Started. We're get right into it. Here we go. No, I'm just kidding. It started, D.K., you're wasting time. Sequon Barkley of the Giants. Ever heard of him? Yeah.

So, obviously, he's not going to be cheap because he has really strong name power. Everyone knows he's an elite athlete, he's an elite player type guy. But I think at this point of the season, if you have a team that's sort of languishing, several pieces or something to have any hope of competing, maybe send out a few offers.

Maybe it'll work. Giants, and here's why I like it. Number one, I think he's getting healthy. I think he's coming back. They actually kept him out an extra week. Now he has a buy, so his ankle should be good. His knee will be even more healthy than it was early in the season. In theory, he'll have kind of like the fresh legs that you're looking for down the stretch.

Also, I saw this. I was playing with the RotoViz Strength of Schedule app. It's a very helpful, cool tool. Also, Fantasy Bros has one that I was looking at. the Giants have the third easiest rest of season schedule for running backs, according to RotoViz's app. After the buy, they have a tough one at Tampa Bay, but from there it's Philly, Miami, the Chargers, Dallas,

Philly again, and Chicago. And I think he's going to get a full workload in all those games, in theory, if he could say healthy. And also, just to add in here, like if the Giants get healthy with some of their skill players, they could have a chance of actually doing something on offense down the stretch. I know that's kind of hard to predict that. will happen with the way the Giants have done it lately.

But all in all, I'm excited what Barclay can do down the stretch. I think he'll finally kind of show up and be that type of guy that like match his name value here. You know what I love doing? I love trading for guys who are about to go into the buy week. Because I feel like you can just get a little bit

a little bit, you can get it for 90 cents on the dollar instead of a hundred. You know what I mean? Totally. I agree. And also I think this is one of those examples where if the person who has Seekwan really loves Seekwan and still thinks they're elite, like don't bother. But if they're kind of annoyed that he's just playing this season, that's exactly the kind of person that you want to try to

try to say Kwan for a hundred. It's not really worth to know if they still are in love with them. Okay. All right, D.K., respecting the timer. Oh, well done. Nailed it. Now you get to listen to me again. I'm going to disrespect it. Real quick. What's your confidence meter on the rest of the season? Real quick. I would say it's like an eight out of ten. I think the only lack of confidence I have is if he gets hurt again, which is, I think, the case with any player. Ultimately, I think he's going to get a strong one.

Cologne has a good schedule. Okay. All right. Number two, hit it, D.K. All right. C.D. Lamb for the Cowboys. Yeah. This one makes me feel good, D.K. I got C.D. Lamb in my big league. He's been up and down. So go ahead. Yeah, I would say, so like, at the beginning of the year, C.D. Lamb, for me, personally, was a player, like, you could offer me anyone in the fucking league. I'm not giving up C.D. Lam. This is how excited it was for him coming into the season. And ultimately, honestly, he hasn't been as exciting or good as I think I'd hoped. Right now, he's he's the wide receiver 16 coming off a really bad clunker.

He had like a couple drops. Didn't look so good. Well, I don't know if a drop is fair. He had one that he should have caught or could have caught and he dropped it. The Cowboys' offense looked terrible. Dak looked terrible. If there's anybody in your league that is kind of having second thoughts or basically it's just sort of softened to the idea of giving up CD for whoever, like maybe they need

a running back. I really like him down the stretch. The Cowboys have, and again, this is a string of the schedule app on RodeViz. they have the easiest opponent strength of schedule for receivers the rest of the way. Fantasy Pro says them the second easiest. So going forward, it's Atlanta, Kansas City, Las Vegas, New Orleans, Washington, Giants, Washington, and Arizona. Really the only tough defense in there is New Orleans, like really, really good defense in there is New Orleans. Crucially, Fantasy playoffs, it's Giants, Washington, and Arizona, which is the second easiest in that stretch.

So I think there's like with the way they utilize him, his target race still really strong, 22%. Attack is going to bounce back 100%. This offense, I trust Kellan Moore, all that stuff. I think ultimately CD is going to be really reliable, has a really high ceiling down the stretch. He's a good player, good quarterback, good offense, all that stuff I think matches up to have a good second half. He's a type of guy who could be like an actually top five receiver. Right. Like in this latter half of the year.

When you look at all of CD's bad games this year, his statistical bad games, it's not him. you know, it's not like he's playing poorly. It's always a weird game. It's either been, you know, that week's three and four stretch where the Cowboys just ran, that's all they did was run. When they beat Philly and Carolina, they ran the ball like 40 times. CD didn't play well there.

But most of the time, it's usually schematic reasons is why CD doesn't perform. It's nothing to do with his skill set or Dax. Yeah. This is the definition of a by-low. D-K., what's your confidence meter here for C-D as a trade candidate? I'm going to go seven. Okay.

Still very- I think it's like a nine for me. For you? that's good to know. That makes me feel better. I'm still very strongly thinking like CD is an elite talent. The only small concern I have is exactly what Craig just said. It's a little bit variable in the way that they attack opposing defenses. But overall, like, I told you about the schedule. Like, I think the schedule lines up really well. Maybe other than that Saints game,

it lines up well for them to have like really efficient passing game. Okay, number three, I'm going to throw out there. Rob Grankowski, man. Wow. This is controversial. Who you probably forget. got about. So he... Is it? Kind of. Yes, actually I agree

because of the injury situation. My confidence meter on this is like a four out of ten. I'm not that confident. Well, he burns so bright. Like, he was running so hot in those first three weeks.

I'm surprised that you think that he is this big of a trade target because you could argue at that time he was a sell high candidate. Yes, but he's now, he's been hurt for so long that basically, I think this is not one of those situations, again,

where I'm saying, just blindly go get Rob Bernkowski. What I'm saying is, if you are a team that you think going to make the playoffs, but you don't love your tight end situation. Like you don't have a Kelsey, you don't have Darren Waller, you don't have a good tight end. But you want to make a splash.

If you want a spicy tight end and you look at the team that has Rob Grancowski and they're fighting for a playoff spot and they're tired. He's probably not going to play this week. We'll see if he even plays the next week. And they need something now to make the playoffs and you can help them. Or they're just frustrated. Like, this is why you check in with a team. Sometimes they're like, no, I'm definitely going to play Rob Grancowski when he comes back.

But if they've already found. someone that they like, if they found a Dalton Schultz or they have Dalsa Knox or like, they have a different tight end that they like and they might not even play Grunk. You check the situation and you can maybe get Rob Grunkowski for the playoffs. And again, the Bucks

schedule is pretty easy. At the end of the season, that's kind of exactly the kind of dart throw you want to go and get. Do you see Gronk as a top 10 tight end to finish the year? Let's say just in the remaining eight games. You see him as a top 10 guy? It's not about the remaining eight games. It's about if he comes back and

he's healthy for the fantasy stretch run, then he'll probably be a top six tight end ranked every week going in, just because his odds for a touchdown are as high as any tight end. This is like trying to put like an ace up your sleeve for the playoffs, essentially, right? Yeah, it's because when he plays, he's as good of a bet to get a touchdown as any tight end except Kelsey himself. This is definitely risky.

So your confidence meter is four out of ten, right? My confidence is low, but what I'm saying is if you're, like, if you're, if you've gotten far at the swing. Exactly. if you're confident in your ability to make the playoffs but you're not confident in your tight end spot this is like you're a home run this is like that you're swinging for a grain slam

yeah I get you I get you um all right that's cool wow all right did not convince Craig there geez all right let's see if I can get the next one okay my next one Adam Thielen Vikings this to me is like what you kind of want to try to do with a bylaw

Adam Thielen just had two catches for six yards I mean the Vikings offense if you've seen them has just looked putrid. But Adam Thielin actually has more targets and more air yards than Justin Jefferson over the last two weeks. And so this is another one. Like if the person has Adam Thieland's like a little nervous that like his run of touchdowns might again, he had a touchdown and that one of those two catches, six yards. Thielen overall though, his like underlying numbers like the opportunity is getting is actually pretty solid and actually still supports the case that he's going

to be a really like pretty solid second wide receiver for you. That's another guy I would kind of just on how that manager feels about Thielen and maybe go get him because, again, I think that his, for whatever reason, his distribution with Justin Jefferson's a lot more equal than it seems. He's actually been getting more. This is a really good one. I like this one a lot. And what's, you know what's funny about this is people look back at Thelan's 2020 and they're like, oh, it's 14 touchdown season.

It's kind of an anomaly. Like, do I really want to bet on that happening again? He's got seven this year and eight games. And he's got more, I mean, his 16 game, not even 17 game, his 16 games, his 16. team game projection this year is better in every category. Catches, yards, and tied for touchdowns than what he did last year. Wow. Do you think Justin Jefferson's a by-low too? I think both of

these guys are by-lows. Jefferson's been good though. Yeah, my issue is Jefferson. He said a couple like somewhat. Yeah, but you got to think of it from your, from their perspective. And remember the IKEA where it's like everything you build from IKEA, you rationally like any player with Jefferson. No, you have to pick the players that. have frustrated someone.

So it's like, Gronk. It's like they're probably frustrated he's played once in the last seven weeks. Like, you know what I mean? Justin Jefferson, I don't think has pissed anyone off who has them. It's just like a little... Because Dieland's scored more points than Jefferson this year in fantasy by I think three.

However, it feels different. It feels, it does, exactly. Okay. Confidence meter eight. That's how you do with the timer, D.K. Bam. We're cooking with gas here today. All right.

Number five, D.K., take us away. All right, so I'm going with Miles Sanders for the Eagles, which I really wouldn't have guessed that I would say maybe like three weeks ago. As early as three weeks ago, I would not have said this. But I think that the way that the Eagles have shifted and kind of adopted or at least want to try and run the ball, like obviously these last two matchups that's been very, like the opposing teams have been begging them to run the ball. That's not going to happen the rest of the season. That's not going to happen all year. However, I think Nick Seriani is smart enough

to know, like, their offense has looked a lot better the last two weeks. It's been much more balanced. Basically, everyone in Philly has been saying, dude, you have to at least run the ball some. And we were talking about this earlier this week. I can't remember when. It's like, Miles Sanders got hurt at the worst possible time. All of a sudden, the last two games, they run the ball like 40 plus times in each of the last games when early on in the season, Miles Sanders was, like, begging to, like, carry the ball five times. I'm not saying that the Eagles will run the ball 30 plus times a game going forward. I don't think that's true. However, I do think he's going to have much more of the workload that we're expecting

before the season started. I think he's going to come back in, be the number one guy. I think they really like him. He looks really, like he looked really good. Before he got hurt, he was really starting to come on. And the second half schedule actually sets up well for Sanders. I think fourth easiest schedule, according to SOS, strength of schedule per rotev is for the Eagles for running backs. In the fantasy playoffs in particular, they played the Washington football team twice. It's Washington football team, Giants, and then Washington football team again. Obviously, the football team has had a very overwhelming defense. I think these games are probably going to be neutral where the Eagles have a chance to be winning.

In other words, they're probably going to be running quite a bit. So I think it just sets up well for standards to have a pretty big role down the stretch. What do you think? Well, you fill a buster for the whole time, but I guess are you nervous that there's any kind of committee even when he comes back? I am nervous. My confidence meter on this is like a six. I still think he's clearly the number one. It's a low-risk, high-reward situation, though.

You don't have to give up a lot. I would think he'd be relatively cheap based on what he did early in the season. The fact that he's still not officially back, it's kind of like the Barclay thing. If someone's just kind of a stick of him and they need someone to start for them this week or whatever, go for it.

Miles Sanders, people who have him and now have to watch, like Jordan Howard, getting better run than Sanders got the entire season combined. That's to me in Fury. Okay. I know. I'm trying to think of like a cop. It's like when you date somebody and you're trying to get them to like, you know, commit to one of your hobbies, like you love yoga and they never do it.

And the second you break up with them, they're with their new boyfriend doing yoga. And you're like, what the hell. This is what I want. That's absolutely brutal. Yoga. Number six, D.K. I'm not going to filibuster this one. T. Higgins for the bagels.

Currently, the wide receiver 40. Obviously, that's not really what we thought he'd be. I thought he'd be like a wide receiver two or something like that. Is that overall or per game? That's overall, but he's still, per game, he hasn't been like super, you know, reliable. I mean, he hasn't had, like, really huge duds, but he hasn't had explosion games either.

Those could be coming. And I think primarily, like, honestly, his target share is really good. He has a 23.7% target rate, which is one of the best among receivers. Jamar Chase, by the way, is 24.9. So they're both very, very strong. They funnel those targets into those two guys.

T. Higgins is second right now, only to gronk, Hyve it's good called out earlier, in end zone targets per game. They're looking for this guy. Joe Borough looks for this guy in the end zone a lot. This is according to fantasy points. And then the Bengals crucially are playing faster,

more pass heavy as the season goes on. They're starting to show more faith in Burrow. I think primarily, honestly, Higgins is just kind of like underperformed because he's just underperformed in contested catch situations, which I think is a little bit, like it's not a sticky stat, like necessarily.

it's just a situational thing. He hasn't really come down with passes that he could have come down with or probably should have come down with or in the past has come down with. So I think he's going to improve as the second half over the second half of the season as the season goes on. And I think he has a chance to be really, really outplay what he's doing now. I'm not saying he's going to be like a wide receiver one. But I do think he'll be like a low-end wide receiver two the rest of the way out. I mean, he hasn't scored a touchdown in like two months.

I think that'll probably change. It's going to happen. Yeah, and I like the Bengals just in general going forward to throw a little. bit more and Burrow to get better, just the entire offense to do a little bit better moving forward. They're a slump. This is the time to buy it. There's no hype. There's no hype right now. This is the same thing as Jamar Chase in the ramp. So Jamar Chase has taken up all the hype, but like it's going to come back down earth. I feel the same way about Cooper

Cup and the Rams. Cooper Cup's on pace for the best PPR fantasy receiving season ever. I think that comes back down to Robert Woods and Higby just because it's going to have to. But Woods had a big game, so it's kind of hard to say it by Lowe, but I feel the same way about Robert Woods and T. Higgas. Yeah. And honestly, Higby too. All right, number seven. First, wait, what's your confidence meter on T. Higgins, D.K.? I'd say it's like a seven and a half. I'm feeling pretty confident. He's not going to be a bust for you if you trade for him. Craig. Number seven. Yeah, I want to talk about Javante Williams on Denver, the rookie running back. Javante, the breakout hasn't exactly come yet for Javante. He's

the running back 39 on the season and points per game. But my gut says it's coming. This is kind of a gut call. D.K., can you give us a brief rundown of what the second half of players' rookie seasons typically look like? So there's been research done. And the specific research I saw was on receivers in particular, having, like, if you look at their targets, receptions, yards, it's like 50% higher in weeks eight or like weeks nine on versus week one through eight.

I don't know for sure if it correlates exactly with running backs, but I think it's probably a very similar idea. in the fact that... In general, the idea is, like, you know, they understand the game more, they get a little bit more comfortable. They get their sea legs, you could say. And look at...

The way I look at Jonathan Taylor last year is the way I'm kind of hoping Giovante Williams breaks out this year. It's practically a dead split still with him and Melvin Gordon. They essentially just trade off games of one of them getting like a little bit more carries than the other.

And even in the passing game, it's pretty close. But Denver has PFF's number one easiest schedule remaining for running backs, which I like a lot. I know Javante's draft value hasn't really paid. awful lot. I think that the people who took him in the fifth, six, seventh round are upset. They're

annoyed because he's just like kind of a flex guy and that's it. And listen, he's still running the ball really well. He had his best game of the season last week. He's still on pace to break, not break, to beat the projection of his rushing total on the season. I bet that that was one of our props. It was like 800 yards. He's projected to go over that. And he looks really good. He passes the eye test. So if you want to bet on a rookie getting better in a Jonathan Taylor-esque way, I think Javante Williams is the best rookie running back you could do that for who's reasonably priced. This is exactly a buy load of me.

It's like this is a player who has disappointed whoever drafted them. They have one touching touchdown the whole season. The person who has them is watching Melvin Gordon has the long runs every week. And then you tap the glass. You're like, are you interested in a trade? And then if he has another met week, they go into the buy. You can ask again, like, unless he blows up next week, this is the kind of person you, I think you want to target.

This is, hi-fitz, we were talking about how, you know, if you hit on a few of your, like, if you have like a five-game parlay and you hit on a few of them, and you're going into Monday night and you need to hit on like one more and you're not feeling too confident you sell that ticket. This is kind of like that I feel like

because there's a chance that DeVarante just continues doing this usage down the stretch and that's who he is. He's like a low-end flex guy or whatever. He's not going to give you zeros but he's not going to give you the huge blow-up that you want. However, you're kind of buying this ticket thinking like I could win big on this.

If Gordon goes down, Gordon's been an injury guide. I don't know. Injury prone is like a hard word. I don't necessarily believe that's actually He's been known to miss a game or two He's missed games in the past Put it that way And he has looked incredible lately

There's some questions of whether he's like Picking the right lanes to run in and stuff And I get that That's probably part of Jonathan Taylor last year Learning curve of a rookie running back However like his numbers for breaking tackles Are off the charts

He looks great He's explosive I think he looks better than Gordon It's not to say that Gordon looks good Or looks bad But he's just more dynamic and more explosive and they're using him in every role.

It's like a true split where they're like, they don't have individual roles. They're all just doing everything. They're both just doing everything. Does that make sense? Like, they're both using them in the passing game. They're both using them in two minutes. They're both using them in the red zone.

So if Gordon got hurt, you have like, that's a lottery ticket right there. It's a good one. D.K. All right. Craig, what's your confidence meter, aren't youivante? Because this is a gut call,

I'm just going to go right down the middle. I'm going to say five out of ten. All right. number eight Craig back to you yeah Dallas Goddert tied in on the Eagles I almost put this one Craig

I like this one yeah since Ertz left it hasn't been great he's the tight end 13 on the season in points per game but they have a great schedule the rest of the way number one easiest per PFF

and he hasn't scored a touchdown in four weeks this is the time to pounce he's had five points and ten points since Ertz left the Eagles are running the ball like crazy in those two games that's not going to keep up five of their final eight games

are playing the NFC East including Washington twice. To me, this just makes a lot of sense. And honestly, if Jalen Hertz gets bent and Gardner-Minshu comes in, I think that's even better for Dallas Goddard. So I think he's a great by-load, tight-end guy for you. I love this one. I'm going to go try to do this in, like, all of my leagues.

I love this one. This to me, if the Gromk one was like, I gave a four-to-10 confidence, I'm giving this one a nine. A nine relative to what you have to give up, him delivering, Dallas-Ga-Dolert, delivering what you have to give up is nine-to-10. So basically when Zach Ertz and Goddard were

the same team this season. Goddard was playing intuitive every three snaps. Now that Ertz has gone, Dallas Goddard is playing nine out of every ten snaps. But no one's noticed because they had this weird stretch where the Eagles played the Lions and the Chargers, who were the worst run defenses in the league. So the Eagles

just ran like 40 plus times two weeks in a row after they were running the least out of every team in the NFL. So now that they're out of this rushing stretch, Goddard is going to be really a 1B receiver along with Devante Smith. but the person as Dallas Goddard

might not even realize that yet. This to me is like the A1 priority on this whole show. You could, so, I'm going to throw a couple of names. I'm going to do a name game here because I actually think with the tight-up position, that's one position where you can throw out

like same position for same position type trades. And some people might bite. Like for instance, if you throw out a trade for Dalton Schultz, for instance, for Goddard. Yo, that's a perfect example. Some people might jump at that. If I have Dalton Shultz,

I would trade Schultz to the guy who was Goddard for Goddard and something else being like because Schultz has been better but I actually think Goddard will be better rest of the season because Michael Gallup's going to come back for Dallas probably and that's getting to Schultz's work. That's a perfect example.

Noah Fent Hunter Henry. You can act like you're giving them a better player but I actually think Goddard's going to be the better player going forward. Goddard's target rate over like since Earth's has been traded is really strong. He's a top 10 target rate even with Earth like even playing in the games that Earth's played too.

So yeah, I think going forward, he's going to have a strong second half the year. And I also, I've been up and down on Jalen Hertz and my confidence, I guess, rate in him. But I'm feeling better about Hertz. Or about Hertz. Sorry, he had a really good game this last week. He's starting to look like he's kind of starting to feel better in this passing game. They're starting to get more in the groove in that passing game. So having more confidence in going down the stretch too.

All right. Sticky with tight ends. DK, number nine. Logan Thomas, who I think people have maybe forgotten about a little bit. He's been hurt for the last however many weeks, five weeks, four weeks. But I think he's going to be coming back soon. He's out at practice already this week. I don't know for sure if he's going to be back in games yet.

But I'm looking at this guy as like a potential very nice addition down the stretch. If he's out on waivers, definitely go get him. If not try and trade for him, you're not going to have to give up a bunch, I wouldn't think. Because someone's probably just been stashing him. So if you look at their schedule down the stretch, third easiest strength of schedule, according to Roveiz, they get Tampa Bay, Carolina, Seattle, Las Vegas, Dallas, Philly, Dallas, and Philly. By the way, Washington's schedule in the fantasy playoffs,

so like in weeks 14 through 17, I know some people are not going to be doing in week 14, but they play Dallas, Philly, Dallas, Philly. What the hell is going on here? Yeah, that's why the NFC East, it's funny that the Cowboys jumped out to such a lead because before the season, It seemed like there was no way the NFCs would be decided by December, but the Cowboys, unless they collapse, are going to be able to do it. But, yeah, the NFC is this crazy in December.

So anyhow, I know that this doesn't correlate necessarily year over year, but Thomas is a guy that I remember last year went off down the stretch. And so I'm just thinking maybe he could come back, provide that underneath option for a passing game that's clearly kind of been struggling with Heineckee Undercenter. I don't know if Fitzpatrick is going to come back, but if Fitzpatrick comes back, that might provide a little bit of a boost. So all those things together, I think Logan Thomas is good.

I think he's a better version of Ricky Seals Jones. And Seals Jones has been pretty usable week in and week out. So just keep him in mind. My only fear with this is that if somebody has been holding on to him this entire time, they may not want to bail right before he comes back. I think that the answer is that if you've held on him in this long, Logan Thomas this long, you probably have found a solution in like the Schultz-Dawson-Knox, Pat Friarmouth category and that he's been on IR.

And once Logan Thomas comes off I-R, you might, like, they might want to cut him. or they don't know what they're going to do and those are the kind of people I would probably target. Maybe you can give them like a second tier running back or something like that, you know? What's your confidence meter, DK, Logan Thomas? I've been eight on Thomas.

I think he's going to have a good second half. Like, he's just a good player, gets a ton of targets, and assuming he gets back in healthy, I'm feeling good about it. Also, to be clear, if when you say second tier running back, I think you mean like a fifth tier running back?

I meant what I meant was like a flex, sorry. Okay. Not necessarily a guy that you're going to be using every week, but... Give Zeke Elliott for Logan Thomas. That's what D.K. wants you to do. Okay. Number 10, this...

Now we're lower in the note into the name, brand value of this, but it's Darnel Moody for the Bears. Yes, I love this one. Which is weird. I know this is like lower end. Honestly, what I'm really talking about here is like if you're doing a different trade,

Darnel Mooney's like the perfect throw-in. Like, you know, when you do a two for one and you've got to throw in the guy? Darnel Mooney is like a perfect, like, add-on that the other guy doesn't care about. Darnel Mooney has been so much better than expected. He is the number one receiver for the Bears. That has been meaningless

because the Bears have the worst passing game in the entire league. They're last in passing yards. They pass less than any of their team in like neutral situations. And just again, the past game sucked. Fields has sucked. Matt Nagy, that coach has sucked.

But if you watch money and football, the Bears' offense looked a lot better against the Steelers. The passing game looked better. They're going into the buy. So as Craig mentioned, it's easier to trade for players on their buy. And then two, presumably,

the bears will get a little bit of their shit together on the buy. And here's the thing. If the bears go from literally the worst passing team in the NFL to average, or even just slightly below average. They don't even have to be good. If they're just kind of bad, Darnel Mooney will probably be like a legit fantasy player because he's getting so much of his offense, his rapport with Justin Fields is so good.

The underlying numbers are solid. He is a good receiver, but the offense has been so bad that his slice of the pie doesn't matter. If the pie gets, again, just below average and that slice for Darno Mooney has will be valuable. And right now, you can get him for what? Like, almost free? Also, Alan Robinson had a hamstring injury last night on Monday in a football. I considered throwing him on here, but the hamstring injury, I think, like, because

how often can you get a talent like Alan Robinson, maybe they figure things out over the buy. But the fact he has a hamstring kind of just makes me even more on a Mooney. It feels like he's borderline going to have, I don't think anyone's attached to him. And I actually feel the same way about Cole Comette if Alan Robinson's hurt, because Cole Comette's like free on waivers. But anyway, I'm just interested to see if the bears are competent in the second half of the season. because their value couldn't really be lower. I love this one.

I like Mooney a lot. I think he's one of those guys that not only is he in a good situation to get, because sometimes it's like, oh, this guy's going to be in a good situation to get targets in this offense, and that's the analysis. I think he also is a good player. Like, he's legit can get open, and he's a good player. He's like really good hands, really good body control. They used him on an end round where he scored a touchdown last night.

He was a draft target for us at the start of the year. here. Yeah, he's just like coming into his own. And like you said, Hyvitz, he's actually the number one receiver. I mean, like, I hate to say it, but like he's passed up on Robinson. Part of that is the narrative that came out of the preseason where Justin Fields has all his reps with the second team. Like, good job, Nagy again. But like he has a lot of chemistry with, with Mooney because they worked out together after practices and things like that. Like Alan Robinson really didn't get the time for whatever reason. So I know that Mooney was like playing with the first team generally, but they have talked about how. they work together a lot and they like have a lot of chemistry. So I think that's important. I like that one. My confidence on Mooney is like a six that he'll improve but relative to what you'll have to give up

to get Darnell Mooney. My confidence is like an eight and a half that he'll improve on the pittance you'll have to give up to get them. I don't think anyone's very attached to him. Do you guys want to do like two or three guys that we didn't put in this exercise for whatever reason but we want to talk about?

Yeah, but you have to first make an analogy of what this is in the power hour drinking game. In the power hour drinking game, I don't Is this when you lose track of what's happening And you just kind of hang out And you don't notice that the music has changed Yeah is this like you went to the bathroom

So you came back and just chugged a whole beer Just to catch up Yeah basically yeah let's go with that Or really I guess if it's like a 90s power hour There would be like an 80s scene But that's not really it because you're not really deciding I don't know what the power hour analogy is But my point is I want to ask you guys about

Tyler Lockett Because I don't think he's at by low Because Russ is back So if you have Tyler Lockett and he's sucked for you for like, how long has Russ been out? Like more than a month? I don't think the guy who has Tyler Lockett

or whoever has Tyler Lockett really wants to give him up now that Russ is back. However, I also do think Tyler Lockett will be really good down the stretch. So it felt like cheating to put him on this list because realistically you're not going to get him at a value, but I don't know.

Do you guys agree that Lockett's probably going to get way better? Well, what sucked is that he just had a 12-catch, a 142-yard performance. that didn't happen. Yeah, it's too much, I think. I don't think anybody's going to give him up after that. On that, I agree, but I think it'll be better, but the window's closed. On that note, Mike Williams, a perfect by-lo, amazing, blazing month, then he's been awful, and then now what do you do with him? This is a by-low window, but do we actually believe in him? This is really a question about the charges of offense more than it is Mike Williams.

It's always funny to me because by-lows are, at times they're very obvious, you know what I mean? Like, this guy was fucking tearing it up in the early part of the season and now they're in a lull. So obviously, go get him. But also there's this nagging down in the back of your mind, like Craig, you just said. What if it doesn't work? The offense is all fucked up and they just can't get it back going. So, I mean, that is the internal struggle. I think the underlying numbers are strong enough.

I think the talent is there. I think he's got fucking Herbert at quarterback. I'm saying he's, I think he's a buy low. Here's the concern. I'm going to land on that side. So we basically, after five weeks were like, so the, the, uh, Joe Lombardi brought the Chargers, the Saints offense, and that Mike Williams is Michael Thomas. And in week five against Cleveland, Mike Williams had 16 targets and eight catches.

And since then, in the three games since then, he has 15 targets and six catches. So he has less targets and catches in the last three weeks than he had in the game before that. And, but I do think the Chargers are going to have to scheme up ways to get him the ball again. And that's really what you're betting on. That he's somewhere between what he was for the first month and the second month. I mean, yeah, look at the look at what happened in the games or he only got these five targets.

They've lost two of them and they barely beat the Eagles. Yeah, but you're also betting a Jolabardi to adjust, which we'll see. Okay. I think he had a knee. He came up on the injury report in week six with a knee injury.

That could be contributing to this. Well, that's scary. Well, that's why he's in this weird bonus round when we don't know what we want to do about him. And the last one. What do we, should we call it is the white claw round? What is it? The white claw round.

Yeah, this is the white claw. That's perfect. That's exactly with this. White Claw around. Like we, this is even countess power. It's just, we're just sitting watching, you know what this is? We're just sitting and watching the music video power hour, but we're not drinking to it. That's what it is. The group of friends is doing a power hour and you're not really catching that vibe.

So you're just kind of sitting off from the side sipping a beer. Yeah, you are still drinking. That's what it is. And this is the ultimate example of that, which is Patrick Mahomes. Mm. And that, is he a by low or are you an idiot for trying to get Patrick Mahomes? Yeah. You know, so one thing.

I don't love looking at strength of schedule at the start of the season. However, as you move closer to the playoffs, I actually think looking at the fantasy playoffs, strength of schedule for whatever guy you're looking at is super important and really matters, mainly for running backs. I really look at it. But man, so the way Mahomes is playing is obviously bad, everybody knows that.

But his final three games, if you were to trade for him and then have him for weeks, what would it be 15, 16, and 17, he plays the Chargers, the Steelers, and the Bengals. not exactly the greatest playoff run there from Mahomes I don't know if he's a by-low I mean he is

but the Chargers defense gives up a lot of easy stuff but like that's what they've been struggling with that's what they've been struggling with yeah I feel like they were the ones who invented the like this year at least like to keep it in front of you Brandon Staley that's what he does

yeah yeah here's yeah just as a reminder I think Jordan Love was not very impressive in this Packers Chiefs game And yet Jordan Love's stats were like pretty similar to Patrick Mahomes. I mean, Patrick Mahomes last week, just to throw it out there, he had 160 yards at a touchdown on 37 throws, 166 yards in a touchdown. They won 13 to 7.

I mean, like by another name, if his name wasn't Patrick Mahomes, I mean, you'd think that Mahomes's lines the last few weeks. It'd be like, it was Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah, but it is Mahomes. And that's the thing. But it is Mahomes. And that's as cheap as Mahomes might ever be for the next like decade, honestly. honestly. That's the argument for it. Trade value. It's definitely the cheapest he's been in the last few years,

if you want to trade for him. You certainly have the guys that are rostering him losing confidence. Like the last three weeks has been really bad. The offense has looked out of sync. Anytime you're buying low on anyone, like there's a reason it's called a buy low. Like he's had a couple bad games. You have to kind of have like a leap of faith and hope that it gets better. I'm buying low on. I think he's going to bounce back. Again, if the person

has Mahomes has another quarterback that's good like a Jalen Hertz, a Tom Brady, someone that's outperforming Mahomes themselves. That's an obvious example where they might want to trade Mahomes and not really care. Want to get some emails? Yeah. All right. It's some great emails. We're drunk off the power hour.

Thank you to everyone email those. Emails at ringer fantasy football at jemail.com. Now we're just drunk scrolling through emails at 2 in the morning. Yes. It's honestly I've probably responded to some of you drunk. That's probably happening. Okay. I love that. First of all, last episode We mentioned the Great Pyramid of Memphis, where there's this 300-foot Bass Pro Shops

pyramid in Memphis, Tennessee. We've got a lot of feedback on that. Yeah, so we had several emails, so I kind of like compiled them into one. So thank you if you emailed about the Great Pyramid of Memphis, from Kyle. Kyle. Kyle. Kyle. He said to mention, the pyramid was originally an arena for Memphis College basketball team, and then later the Memphis Grizzlies, which I did not know. Also, someone else mentioned that it was also a venue for marginally popular professional tennis tournaments for several years. From Kyle, I moved to Memphis unknowingly the year, the pyramid of Memphis opened up as a Bass Pro Shop, and it's fucking awesome. It's got a bar at the top of the pyramid with an overlook of the city and a bowling alley

at the base. It's also got a honeymoon suite, which is maybe the trashiest thing I've ever heard of. A honeymoon suite. This is me talking. This is Danny talking about. Do you not know what love is? You wouldn't take your significant other to the top of the pyramid. The Bass Pro Shop's Pyramid of Memphis. Then you get some ass pro shop that night. Can I ask you guys a question? What are the odds you think we could get corporate Swedish Daddy Spotify to sponsor? Corporate Sweet.

Us staying in the hotel. In the Bass Pro Shop. The Bass Pro Shop. The Honeymoon Suite. Honeymoon suite. Do you think we could do a live show from there? Oh, my God. I would love to.

It's worth a shot. Do you guys also know that Long Beach State has a Walter Pyramid? They also, their basketball arena is a giant pyramid as well. What? Yeah. Is it a Bass Pro Shops? It's not a Bass Pro Shops. Why would I give a shit?

Well, because it was Memphis played games there. I'm just saying that I've actually been to it. I played there at high school for something. But yeah, they're also a giant pyramid. I don't know what's up of these pyramids. Wait, I want to look at the rest of this email here because it really just keeps going here. The honeymoon suite derailed us. Sorry, I broke off the quote here.

I broke off the email, to be totally clear, breaking back into the Kyle's email. He said the honeymoon suite, a former coworker of his used because their original hotel canceled on them at the last minute in the bass pro shop accommodated them with no issue. It's basically a full-sized aquarium with alligators around the bass of the elevator. I think it's base of the elevator. Oh, sorry. I'm so on to the bass thing. Bass pro shop.

It's not base pro. shops. Wait, do they really have alligators at the elevators? Is this real? This is bizarre. Alligators? I don't even know what to Google. Alligators, Bass Pro Shops, Memphis Pyramid. That's like a mad lib. I feel like if I make one wrong thing, I'm going to get Q anon on if I Google, if I get one wrong

thing in this Bass Pro Shops pyramid. Okay, so finally, Kyle goes on to say, my friend came down to visit and he and I got so drunk at the bar, we started wandering around the shop, making our way to an extremely large waterfowl exhibit, where we asked to leave after purchasing duck calls and spending probably 30 minutes using them at the bird displays. If the bills lose to the jets

this week, I will be visiting again so I could jump off of it. Wait, I also have Googled the, I'm reading mens jar. Someone wrote like a whole thing about this place. The allegation, three alligators lurk within a 600,000 gallon pond on the ground floor. Wow. And then there's also, they are joined in this pond with 1,800 fish and an unfortunately growing constellation of coins. tossed by guests who think the alligator pond is a wishing well. Oh, no. So those alligators are rich. Oh, it's like the Scrooge McDuck, except there's alligators guarding the coins.

It's basically The Hobbit. Wow. I really enjoyed all the emails and tweets and stuff that we got about the Great Pyramid of Memphis. There's some, like, good songs about it. There's an interesting story. Apparently, the guy who owns Bass Pro Shops, like, caught a bass down the downriver. from the pyramid and that was like the inspiration to get to buy this pyramid. What?

It's just bizarre. You know that show's Superstore where it's like just people who work at a grocery store? I'd love a TV show or a reality show at that matter of the people who just worked in this Bass Pro Shops. We should do Big Brother. Like, you know, 20 people just stay in a house and sue can leave. It's like 20 people just have to live in the honeymoon suite of Bass Pro Shops pyramid. Bass Brothers.

Yeah, Bass Brothers. Place sounds better than like the Epcot Center. It does. Go here for vacation. my child. There's so much room for activities. Okay. We also got a lot of emails about D.K. being a father. Yes. This is the fantasy parent corner. Just a really quickly going to break through these from Matt. Matt. Matt. Matt. Jets. D.K. was very close in his assessment of having kids. The reality is, number one, kids are great. Number two, kids ruin everything. Thanks,

Matt. That's, uh, that's it. Thanks, Matt. Does see like a good summation of everything I've heard. I agree with this. And I just want to say for the record, Calvin is still sick. He's still at home. He's sleeping in the room next to me. So if he wakes up and starts screaming, then you'll know. We are honestly like losing our minds because Calvin has been sick, I think, like 20 out of the last 25 days or something like that.

It's been ridiculous. Anyway, another one. This is a good one. This one made me laugh out loud. All right. From William. William. Will I am.

like the will william big willie uh on the last episode dk was talking about his toddler son loving garbage trucks i have a toddler son i too have a toddler son who loves trucks it's for sure a toddler boy stereotype yes it is but it's true anyways when dk mentioned that every time a garbage truck rolls by he tries to get his son's attention to go and see it i also did this for my son until the unthinkable happened a few months ago my son and i were at a walmart and he we agreed to get a small toy for him and he puts agreed in quotes because you know how kids are When we walked by the toy vehicle, Theo ran to the toy garbage trucks and handed it to me and said, Dad, Dad, it's a Garbo truck. You love Garbo trucks. I was stunned. And suddenly it flashed back every time I was excited to see Garbage Truck Excavator Bulldozer and a large construction machinery.

He was pretending to do it for his son, but his son thought that he was the one that loved it. So his son was essentially humoring him. That's sort of sweet, though, you know. I love this. Yeah. It's so true. That's incredible. The son is like, you love garbage trucks.

Those things are stupid, idiot, bullshit things, but like, you love them. They're from garbage, but they're my dad's favorite thing. What a mature thing to say for a child? Father, you love those. We'll get one for you. Bottle that energy on Father's Day when they're 16 and just want to drive away somewhere else. I also like that he calls them Garbo trucks. Garbo is actually kind of nice.

Yeah. Garbo. It would be like a part of the Der Leaked line. Sounds like an app for like an U. Uber for garbage trucks or something. All right. That's pretty good. Okay.

We got a couple of emails moving on. Yeah. Can I get into the poll assassin monkey lawyer emails we got? Oh, we're back on poll assassin? Oh, yeah. We got a lot of emails about the poll assassin monkey law trials. Okay. I kind of comp-

We got like four or five different from different lawyers with their own different. So many lawyers listen to their own different. We had several different like interpretations of the law, by the way. So it's very interesting stuff. Thank you to all the lawyers emailed us at Ringer Fantasy. Football at gmail.com. I appreciate it. We could literally could not get all of them in.

Like there were just too much law. Case law cited. I read more about like animal injury cases in Texas this week than I ever would have thought in my entire life combined. I will say that I'm going to go through just one. Ryan wrote, I'm a new lawyer, but during bar studying,

we learned that there are torts for injuries caused by wild animals. The exact law varies state to state, but in most jurisdictions, owners of wild animals are strictly liable for the injuries their animals cause, meaning that if you can prove the injury occurred and the animal is yours and the animal caused the injury, you are liable no matter what your intent was. If Texas holds to this general rule and Texas classifies monkeys as wild animals, then

pole assassin is likely strictly liable for this injury and the child can sue for money damages. And a real story that happened was, as I read this email, I thought that money damages was monkey damages. because I So I thought the child could sue for monkey damages. So that's where we're at. Pole assassin's liable.

However, I want to give important context from Doug. Doug basically corroborates this, but says he found the following statute. Section 822102, paragraph 8 of Texas law, as we all know. A dangerous wild animal owned by and in possession of custody,

control of a college or university, solely as the mascot for the college and university is exempt from certain Texas regulatory guidelines. In conclusion, in conclusion, if the Texans, if the Texas Longhorns get rid of that bull longhorn mascot and adopt the pole assassin monkey as the official UT Austin mascot,

the pole assassin monkey would not be liable in this case. This is insane. This is the 2021 thing. This would happen. This will happen. I think this would be very popular in Texas. There was also much discussion about this thing called the attractive nuisance doctrine, by the way, on several of these emails where basically the law says if you have something that's dangerous on your property that inherently attracts children and then they get hurt because they're like a child and they come in and like this attracted them to your property or whatever. It's not technically, or I guess it doesn't matter.

if it's technically trespassing because it attracted those children. However, I had one lawyer point out, and this is why the law is so great, that an attractive nuisance, in the attractive nuisance doctrine, it can't be an animal. It has to be an inanimate object. I love, you know, D.K.'s a father, because he's really interested in the old. The law is just so specific and weird. Seriously. The funny thing part about it is that like every weird legal code, like, something happened

that someone needed to write that. They had to figure that out. it. That's crazy. All right. Now, let's get to the actual law that matters,

which is fantasy court. Yes. All right. Who wants to read it? I'm going to read it. You can email us your fantasy court cases. This is from Ray?

Yeah, this from Ray. You can email us ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. This is very important case. This is from Ray. Ray writes, Our league is experiencing strife that can only be settled

by a binding fantasy court ruling. Our league is, it's a mix of work and peripheral friends. Not everyone knows each other very well or even at all. There are two managers in the league who are married and just gave birth to their beautiful baby girl this past Monday morning. And that is where the rift begins. Always starts with a baby.

Don't have a baby to make things easier, guys. The rift begins. Baby was not due for several weeks, but even so, the mom was prescient and had her fantasy lineups set early in the week. Before her water broke, unexpectedly Saturday afternoon, the water breaks, and during an arduous 40-plus hours of labor. I will say that again, 40-plus hours of labor in early Monday morning. She had her lineup set due to her maternal preparedness. And not only that, she won, spanked the guy writing this email's team, basically doubled him up.

And he writes, no doubt adding joy on top of the already joyous event of bringing new life into the world, which I'm sure is equal to winning in fantasy football. can you imagine how much you win by can you imagine losing to someone who's like been giving labor from Thursday night football through the Sunday games and you lost to them anyway that's tough that's like Serena winning while pregnant anyway the problem lies with her less prepared

basement dwelling team husband wow the team is basement dwelling not the husband yeah sorry well I don't know it feels a little pointed he did not have the foresight to set his line up during baby time on Saturday and he left Tua as

Tua Tuna Vyloa in his starting quarterback with Matt Ryan on the bench. Tua being a late scratch, got a zero. Matt Ryan had 28 points. After hearing the news of all the family excitement, the league commissioner as a kind gesture offered to swap Matt Ryan for Tua zero after the fact on Sunday night,

figuring no one in the league would care. However, the team playing against the unprepared father vehemently objected saying, rules are rules blah blah blah everyone should rules equally new baby big life I get it but like where do we draw the line you know and then slippery slope

slippery slope you know a baby what next and then the guy continues the email just typing out this quote makes me laugh very hard and fills me with all of the feelings that I aim to feel when playing fantasy football the disheveled dad is pissed

because he doesn't even know the manager who's bitching about the swap which he didn't ask for but now kind of wants to do the swat because the guy's being such a dick about it who doesn't want it to happen. I also support the swap because it's kind of an extreme circumstances thing. There's more than wins and losses at stake.

It's also like season point tallies and also just fantasy precedent. There's a small amount of money in the buy-in, but really it's a very friendly league. My feelings we should keep it friendly, allow small kindness and gestures, or do we uphold order and not allow a baby exception?

We will yield to the fantasy court. I think this needs to be like a special ruling to create precedent that if a fantasy lineup gets fucked up because of the birth of a child, the commissioner can take executive action. I think that's the rule. That's my ruling. For anyone who's gone and had to go to hospital, especially parents who have gone through 40 hours of labor,

this is an extreme circumstance. This is not a slippery slope. If we're going to the hospital, I think this counts. And also the fact that it's not a big buy-it, like if this was like, a big money buy-in thing. Like, that would be different. This is like a friendly league. Who gives a shit?

I think that's the precedent that we need to set here. And we can call it, we can have like a cool name for it, like the baby rule or something. I want to bet, Craig, give me the odds here. I want to bet the money line that the person upset about this doesn't have children. What's the money line on that? Minus 600? I was to say minus 700. This is actually kind of hard for me.

Is that bad? is because I don't have children. Is that why I'm probably? I think that this is a big children, no children divide. Well, because you know what, DK, maybe it is a slippery slope. So what happens if you break your arm, you slip and fall on Sunday morning, you got to go to the hospital? Is that guy's lineup just safe too? And he's in the hospital for 40 hours.

Well, it doesn't matter. You know, let's say the hospital stay is more than, it's more than 24 hour in the hospital. Here's what I think is hilarious, though, we're leaving out. getting done all these emails from lawyers and stuff like that. Like, let's set it to that. This is the attractive nuisance law. Here's, here's, whatever. But here's, there's one. It takes you away from the games before 10 o'clock on Sunday morning.

If anything takes you away that you can't control and is potentially life-threatening, it doesn't have to be 24 hours. It could just be three hours. You know that you put it like that. Life-threatening. Yeah, that is the rule. Anything even remotely life-threatening. When people are having a fucking kid.

This is one of the most momentous life events any adult can have. I think it needs to be life-threatening because you need a broader scope here. No, it is feds, dude, NFL players miss real games. Okay. NFL players miss real games for the birth of their children. I do want to throw that out. That's a great point. I want to throw this out too.

If I can play devil's advocate here, what we're basically saying is this life event is so momentous that how could anyone have been prepared for this? The mother who actually gave birth one and was fine. And I feel like, Tua got scratched like an hour before the game. Yeah, if she had two on her team, it wouldn't matter how prepared she was.

No one saw this Tua news coming. So I'm going back to, I feel like I've said this and been pretty consistent about it. The commissioner should have the ability, if the majority of people in the league especially agree to do these types of things where it's like, it's not technically

within the rules, but it's with the spirit of the game. this guy was, his wife was giving birth. Like he wasn't, if he was around, he shouldn't have been on his phone swapping out Tua if his priorities were right. If his priorities were right, he would have been on his phone during the birth. I think this is basically fantasy paternity leave. And I think that where the real legal system has failed, I think where the real legal system has failed, what are we one of three countries in the world without the pavement maternity leave? Why don't we take this chance at the fantasy court to rectify and we establish fantasy.

universal paternity universal parental leave in fantasy yeah I think that that just grants for you know I would give it a week I think I agree there should be authorization

that if anybody is going into labor the commissioner then can act as a proxy for that person and you know fill in their lineup how they would fill it in I really think

this other person is a dick I respect it though I do I'd push for it But also like you don't know them This is like a co-work league I'm trying to think about this happen to me And I'd be mad that they didn't set their lineup And then they're like yeah

He didn't set the line up because he gave birth I'm gonna put Matt Ryan in from I'd be like well he didn't give birth He was there as his child was being bored I'd be like yeah That's cool I would say here's what I would say In the opinion when we're writing

And when we're saying When we're giving our like You know our verdict here In the opinion that you attach to it I would say there's stipulations where if this is a big money league, things change. This is not a big money league. This is like a four-fund league. Let's separate the two types of leagues into a family four-fund league and then a big-money league.

Big money league, different story. This is like civil case and criminal case. Exactly. Felony versus misdemeanor. That's actually, I like this a lot. This is not a felony. This is a civil case. Yes.

This is a civil case. I think that that's where I would draw the line. Also, I want to follow up. with you guys. I didn't mention this at the beginning because I wanted to get your genuine reaction. I followed up with Ray. The guy who, not the disheveled dad, the other guy, he actually ended up winning because we got this email.

Wait, despite the Matt Ryan edition? Yes. He ended up winning because he had, he had playful. Oh, I bet he feels like a dick now. Oh, what a dick. Wait, even with the, oh my God. He had Claypool on the Steelers defense and he ended up winning by like a few points. So to be clear.

nothing changed he would have won either way but now all of his co-workers just think he's an absolute dick who is like oh your wife gave birth sucks to suck you better get them a nice baby present man dude they don't know each other though that's the thing still it's just some guy the points do I guess the points technically matter but like whatever he still got the win

pathetic all right sorry to that guy all right I think that's all we got yeah all right thank you to Ray for that email thank you to Dougie and Ryan and all the lawyer really thank you to all the lures email those. We got a lot. And all the parents, ringer fantasy football at Gmail.com.

If you have, you know, pole assassin thoughts, you know, birth, actually birth thoughts, maybe keep, we're just going to start a segment called Policasson thoughts.

Policassant thoughts. Thoughts is spelled T-H-O-T-S. Oh, wow. That's pretty good. Oh, my God. That's pretty good. All right.

Thank you, D.K. Thank you, to whatever higher power is responsible for the miracle of life. That's, that's great. Huge fan of that.

and was there was someone else who was going to thank. Thank you to all the lawyers that wrote us very specific and detailed emails about the Poll Assassin case. That's very helpful. Thank you, Bash Pro Shops. Yeah, Bass Pro Shops. There was something else. I can't even think of it now. Thank you, alligator elevators? Yeah, that. I don't know. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, we're only going to think Bass Pro Shops if we get the Honeymoon Suite at Bass Pro Shops. We're going to save that one. Anyway,

thank you, Lord. Thank you, the Shins. This is bothering me. What was the other? the person I was going to think. I can't remember. Was it, did you think of it when we were doing the final emails and stuff? We're going to thank like OBGYN, the nurses and the... I suppose that would have been a nice thing to do. The unit. What is it called? What's the baby unit called?

The maternity ward? Yeah, maternity ward. Baby squad? I think that's what it is. I will say in a moment of seriousness, like, the nurses in the maternity ward were like fucking awesome. My mom still talks about the nurse from when I was born. You have a profound, profound respect and appreciation for those people and the doctors that are there too when you're going through that. I mean, I didn't get birth clearly, but I was there. Fun fact. Yeah. My pediatrician was the first person to ever hold me and delivered me. And I saw her all the way up until I was 18 and she was the first person to ever hold me. That is just a bizarre thing. Yeah. Yeah. Because this is like a, you know,

obviously, like, one of the biggest moments of your life or whatever, for your mother. And then for you, obviously, it's a huge moment. For them, it's like a Tuesday. Yeah. It's so weird. They just do this shit every day. I don't know. It's crazy.

Anyways, big respect for those people. What did you say your mom said about having a kid? It's like your heart beats outside of your body. Yeah. It's like you're watching your heart outside your body. Whoa. Deep. Goodbye, everyone.