The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking the Weird Stats That Explain the Fantasy Season

Episode Date: October 6, 2021

We discuss the Urban Meyer situation before power-ranking the most interesting stats that explain the fantasy football season so far. Then, we finish the show by checking in on Danny Kelly’s 22 fant...asy leagues and open up a case in Fantasy Court. Urban Meyer (1:40) Power Hour (11:29) DK Fantasy Check-in (46:01) Listener Emails (48:37) Sign up and compete against us in the Bad QB League on FanDuel here.  Email us at ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com.   Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up, guys? Before we get to the show, I want to tell you about one of my favorite shows on the entire Ringer podcast network. It is the Ringer Gambling show with Warren Sharp. He, they're doing three days a week. He talks to Joe House on Fridays. They give out their bets. Ben Solac is just doing unbelievable X-No breakdowns along with Warren. And then Verno goes over the games each week with Sharp. It's insanely informative. I learn something from it every week. I really, it's like a 10 out to 10-10 wreck. So go over there. It's the Ringer gambling show. It's Monday, Wednesdays, and Fridays and Spotify. Check it out. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Heifitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlbeck, and today is Power Hour, where we rank something every week. We just make it up as we go along. This week, we are ranking the stats that explain the fantasy football season so far. Again, I'm immense.
Starting point is 00:01:04 The what stats? The what stats? The weird stats. The weird stats. Well, generally speaking, no one picks a stat unless it's not weird. Well, I guess there's cool stats, weird stats. weird stats the stats
Starting point is 00:01:15 Let's not talk about boring ones These are these are what Indicative stats but indicative doesn't really Sell in the title so we had to put something Yeah I if you're listening to this I feel like maybe you're a loyal listener You would have clicked it but if we put indicative It wouldn't have performed very well so we went with
Starting point is 00:01:31 Whatever we went with I don't know However we're going We're going through all that But first real quick We got talking about Urban Meyer thing A little bit right Can I. The owner has addressed
Starting point is 00:01:46 the situation. I feel like we should as well. The whole Auburn Meyer thing. Yeah, I feel like everyone saw the video. If you didn't, you can Google the video. And if you did, the owner of the Jaguar saw it. Shod Kansar because he released the statement that among other said things that, quote, he must regain
Starting point is 00:02:01 our trust and respect. So, yeah. Question for you guys. Do you think Urban Meyer is the head coach of the Jagger? Today's Tuesday. afternoon. Do you guys think Urban Meyer is the coach of the Jaguars a week from today? Yeah, I think he's going to get a few more weeks to see how it goes. This feels like he's been put in time out by Shad Khan, and if he messes up again or if things
Starting point is 00:02:27 devolve even more, it's over. And it feels like he's already lost the locker room, honestly, like based on reports. I think I saw Michael Silver report talking about how he never really had the respect to the locker room in the first place. And honestly, And look, the situation with this woman at the bar that was not his wife, and, you know, if you haven't seen it, it's not like it's not suitable for work. He was basically just getting hit on or, and or hitting on this girl at a bar. Is that all? He was not, he's not getting hit on. Was that your interpretation?
Starting point is 00:02:58 Look, maybe she just, she bumped into him at the bar and stayed there. Oh, my God. And stayed there for several minutes. He is sitting on a stool and a woman is grinding up against him and he's not saying no. Here's my point. It wasn't like, there wasn't full penetration, nudity or anything like that. No, no, no. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:03:17 You guys are making it sound like it's like a sex tape or something. His wife quote tweeted him from earlier in the night being like, yeah, he's at a bar and I'm watching the grandkids. Yikes. Here's the thing, though. He also didn't fly home with the team. Like, that gets left out of the whole thing. Yeah, like he didn't fly home with the team after a game. He went to his bar.
Starting point is 00:03:36 He went to his bar. I don't want to dwell too much on it, but I will just read the report from Mike Silver, who is that, who used to be an NFL network. It's a whole, Mike Silver's a report has been around the NFL a long time,
Starting point is 00:03:48 and he had this thread today that was, players were particularly put off by the fact that Urban Meyer canceled Monday's team meeting as he dealt with the uproar over the videos of him and a young woman getting cozy in that Ohio bar,
Starting point is 00:04:01 and his source told him, he canceled the team meeting because he was too scared. Instead, Meyer only apologized to position groups, individually, as in the team meeting rooms. Urban Meyer portrayed the woman in the videos as a random person who was just there dancing, suffice it to say.
Starting point is 00:04:15 His audience was skeptical. Said one player, quote, we looked at him like, what the fuck? Right when he left, everyone started dying, laughing, and he knew it, end quote. I don't think he's the coach a week from now. I mean, whether it's a week or several weeks, I think the bottom line is he's not going to last long here. And I think it's ultimately going to be the best decision for the Jags, just going forward. Like, right now, as it is, the Jags are a dumpster fire. The only reason they're not
Starting point is 00:04:41 worse than they are is because Trevor Lawrence has been playing about as well as you can expect a rookie to be playing on like this dumpster fire team. So I don't know, I think for everyone involved Trevor Lawrence, and especially like from a point of view from fantasy, like Trevor Lawrence, Leviska-Schnoll, you know, James Robinson, all that, like everybody that we care about in the fantasy world, it's going to be better off if Urban Meyer is not the head coach. So I think that's the direction it's going and I'm, you know, not that I wish anyone gets fired, but I feel like it's probably best for all these, all these guys. Yeah, like, I don't, it's not this specific event alone that I think is going to lead to his
Starting point is 00:05:18 fire. It's a litany of things that he's done literally since the day he came to Jacksonville. I mean, there's, the list goes on and on. He signed Tim Tebow, the Chris Doyle situation, him openly talking about not keeping players that were unvaccinated. I mean, he is literally screwing up every step of the way, not to mention they're terrible. This year. The fake quarterback competition. I mean, it's easier to list the things they've done correctly, quite honestly.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Yeah. And if, I kind of want to zoom out for one second, just like, if you're wondering what Urban Meyer's deal is, a top five piece of sports writing for me is this piece by Wright Thompson at ESPN. It's titled Urban Meyer will be home for dinner. And if you're kind of wondering,
Starting point is 00:05:57 like, who is this guy, could not recommend this piece higher? And I just, it starts with, I won't read it, but like it starts with basically Urban Meyer, his daughter,
Starting point is 00:06:06 was a senior in high school and she was, she's like a really good volleyball player and she was doing the whole, I'm in the gym thing and you're gonna like announce what college you're going to and your gymnasium
Starting point is 00:06:16 and people are there and it's like a whole thing. Urban Meyer is at work that day and tells his secretary I'm canceling. And his secretary is like, absolutely not. You're gonna go to your daughter's announcement,
Starting point is 00:06:27 you idiot. Like what are you talking about? Yeah. So she cancels his day against his will and forces him to go to his daughter's announcement. And his daughter gets up, gets the mic in front of the gymnasium him and is like, thanks the coach, thanks the mom, turns to Urban Meyer and says, but you
Starting point is 00:06:43 weren't there, dad. And like goes and like high fives him and then hugs the coach. And the whole story is like how Urban Myers had this struggle his whole life between like football and family. The whole, the incident is just like, it's a lot deeper than it really seems on the surface with the Twitter jokes. Like, I don't know. It's a really, it's a complex man, but I don't think he'll be a point.
Starting point is 00:07:05 think he's going to be the coach of USC? I don't think he's going to get a job on Fox. I don't think he'll be for Fox Sports. He can go back. This is bad. Yeah. Yeah. It's rough right now for the Jags.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Better days ahead. Trevor Lawrence is good. It's better if they fire him for the team. Who do we want Trevor Lawrence's next coach to be? Like, realistically, if you're that, if you're shot Khan, don't you have to go to Kellyn Moore for the Cowboys and offer him a ton of money to, like, run the Jagger's offense? You go Bianney me.
Starting point is 00:07:33 You could go dayball. Joe Brady. I mean, just get an offensive, like forward-looking, offensive guy up and coming. And I mean, yeah, like I think Bienemy was on the list before they hired Meyer.
Starting point is 00:07:46 In a crazy way, this might be good for them long term with Trevor Lawrence to not give two years to Meyer and make it like two months. It might actually just be better. Yeah, like the sooner that it ends, the better.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Maybe the, maybe the Jaguars themselves, they told Urban that the flight was at the wrong time so that they could be like, he missed the flight, shitty coach. You say Jaguars,
Starting point is 00:08:05 the, like the British way, Craig. Do I? Say it. Well, now I think I'm going to say it differently because I'm... Because we're focusing on it. What teams is Trevor Lawrence play for? The Jaguars. No, you said it differently.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Jaguars? He didn't say Jaguar. He does. That's exactly how he says it. No, that's not. He didn't say that. He didn't say that. People listening, you can rewind.
Starting point is 00:08:29 We, well, they don't come up. The Jaguar'll talk about it again. We're going to come up when it comes up. All right, let's get to the power rankings. Again, we are power ranking the weird stats that explained this season so far. I have made this list. So if you guys think that this is a dumb order, D.K. Greg can just yell at me where I will try to have thicker skin for hating my list than D.K.
Starting point is 00:08:49 did. D.K., feel free to shred my list. That's the whole point of making lists on the internet. You're saying I didn't have thick skin? I felt like I took it pretty bill. Yeah, you did great, but all right. Jerk. When you hear...
Starting point is 00:08:58 I'm still upset about it. I'm still mad. We're doing, what are we doing? Two minutes of topic. If you hear this sound... we're going to move on. But about that sound, we're kind of bored of it.
Starting point is 00:09:08 We want something different than a ding. If you have an idea for what we should do instead of the ding, emails at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. However, Craig, as the producer, can you tell people what they should or should not suggest or what's actually possible what we would never do?
Starting point is 00:09:22 It can't be a professional singer's music. It needs to be royalty-free, okay? It needs to be a sound in nature, a sound-in-the- In the public domain. In the public domain, a sound effect with no copyright. I don't want any copyright infringement issues coming to our show.
Starting point is 00:09:37 That's why we're trying to get Mariah Carey's approval for fantasy. But yeah, sounds that are not associated with a professional act. Also not annoying sounds. Yeah. Right? My idea, which I don't think we're going to do because it's probably not going to work, but I wanted to bring back the old Dantasy music. I don't know if for people that I've been listening to the podcast long enough,
Starting point is 00:09:58 the old Dantasy music slapped. It was kind of dark. Craig, tell a quick, tell a quick, Sorry about how that music came about. Well, just play, can you play it right now in this? Can you play like a snippet of that, the old intro music we have? Sure, sure. So that song came from, uh, shouts out Evan Campbell.
Starting point is 00:10:27 He used to be a producer, a podcast producer at the ringer. But I, so when I was just like getting involved with the Dantasy show, I told, I was like, we need new music because we had the ringer NFL show music and I wanted to differentiate ourselves. So I told Evan, there's this NFL song that's called like Autumn Bells or something. and it's like that classic like NFL, it feels like fall. And I was like, just make this slap even harder. And he was like, you got it. I was listening to it last night.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I was like, I'm putting on the headphones. I'm cranking it up. It really does like get me going. But I think that would be, that would be too intense to end every two minute conversation. I don't know. Didn't Evan show up at a podcast? He was just like a podcast intern at first. And then there was some like fun facts.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And he was like, yeah, I like dunked on Jerry Jones's grandson in front of Jerry Jones. We were like, what? He says, I cooked Jerry's grandson. Unbelievable. Anyway. Anyway, let's get to the actual stuff. For now, it's going to be a bell today. Sorry, everyone.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Emails at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com if you have thoughts on what we should do. Okay, but for now it's the bell. Number one weird stat that explains the fantasy football season so far. Cordarell Patterson is the RB3 behind Derek Henry and Austin Eckler. Yeah. So weird. He's also like the, he's like the,
Starting point is 00:11:44 wide receiver five or six, too, for the, for the sites that have him as a wide receiver eligible. Patterson is the RB3, despite he is on the field a third of the time. He literally plays less than J.D. McKissick. He plays less snaps than Kenneth Gainwell. So despite that, Corderole Patterson has five touchdowns, which is more than the rest of the Falcons combined. So, absurd. He has broken everything we try to do with fantasy football. Obviously, talent is important for players, but roughly speaking, what we're doing, here is you want to project how often is a player going to play? What's his role? How often
Starting point is 00:12:18 he's going to get the ball? How efficient are they with the ball? How consistent are those stats? He breaks all of that. It defies logic. He's a part-time player. He is getting the ball half the time he's on the field. Half. That's not even exaggeration. The actual number is 46% of his snaps. He's gotten the
Starting point is 00:12:34 football. Forget football. He's borderline. That's like borderline of quarterback. It's a basketball stat. I look this up. I'm not making this up. Russell Westbrook, when he did the triple double MVP season, only touched the ball less than Cordill Patterson has done this season. And you know what's really funny about this is the Falcons don't even,
Starting point is 00:12:59 they don't even realize it. His numbers are going down. In week four, he had less snaps that he did the week before and week before that. He had less rushing attempts. He had less routes run. Like, they don't even know or care. And he's still dominating. Bottom line, Patterson is the classic.
Starting point is 00:13:14 classic like bull's eye sell high candidate. However, people are going to chicken out. And I honestly don't blame people that chicken out for trying to sell high on Patterson because if the Falcons get their shit together and start giving him like full snaps, all bets are off. Right? But we don't know if that's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:13:33 So basically if you're holding on to him, it's that you're or if you're trading for him, hell, trade high for him now because you could bank on the idea that the Falcons are actually going to like give him a full role where he's playing like 90, 95 percent of maps. Point being, he has five touchdowns in a third of the role. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Calvin Ridley is a by low and Cal Pitts is a by low. Like, the touchdowns will redistribute. Mike Davis is still dead to me. He's not dead to me. It's really harsh. Yeah, you're not doing that. I can't bring him up. I feel like, screw the timer.
Starting point is 00:14:00 We'll double this. We're going to do four minutes on Cordorrell because he deserves it. He's called Skorderell now, actually. Scorderell now, actually. When we say sell high on a guy, don't you feel like it's almost too easy? Like, we're just like, yeah, sell high. Well, if you're actually... No one's buying him high.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I don't think anyone's buying him. No one's buying him for like a third, like an RB3 price. Like there's no such thing. And no one's going to treat him like he's Jonathan Taylor. I wanted to do a name game because, yeah, even the guys who are underperforming, like, or having fine years, Nick Chubb, Camara, Mixon, Antonio Gibson. No one's trading those guys for Quarterrell. So my question is, is how shitty does a guy have to be before they would actually trade
Starting point is 00:14:34 their player for Quarterrell for you? So can we do a name game here? Yeah. If you had Cordorale Patterson yourself, would you trade him away for Clyde Edwards-Hale? Of course. Would you trade him away? for Chase Edmonds? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I probably would cash in on Chase Edmonds. That's like, that's the range. Well, Chris Carson, I would absolutely take Chris Carson. I don't care about Alex Collins. I would take Chris Carson. I think Chase Edmonds, Kareem Hunt. I would, I would try to... You know, you can't take Kareem Hunt because Kreme Hunt's like the RB5.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Like, you have to pick somebody who's underperforming. Like Melvin Gordon? I would cash in for Chase Edmonds or Javont. About Zach Moss. I don't think I would trade him for Zach Moss. No, because that's... Like, my point is, is like, you're going to have to go that low.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Chase Edmonds is a good one. I would do that for Chase Edmonds. That's like a great red paper clip trade. Look what I got with my red paper clip. But if you had Chase Edmonds, are you giving that up for quarter out? No. If my team sucks, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Yeah, maybe. But you're going to have to dig pretty low. I think the one mistake we make when we do these things of buy low is that it doesn't matter if the players on a good team. If the person you're trading with is 4 and O, they don't want to make up mess up their team. You usually do that. You got to just look at the players on the awful teams
Starting point is 00:15:43 and be like, well, this person's probably really apathetic about these players. And really, the person's connection to the players is sometimes more important than the value of the player itself. Having said that, Calvardly and Pitts are the by lows, in part because I bet the guy with Kyle Pitts isn't doing great. Yeah. I'm just thinking the whole time you guys were talking, I'm just thinking it's trying to find a trade partner is just exhausting. When you're 22 leagues, I'm sure. When you have one or two, it's not that hard. Even if I was only in like three leagues, I just like don't have the energy to try and trade.
Starting point is 00:16:11 No, it is hard, though. because you got to go to the guy who's not he's got to not be stubborn he's got to be like have a shitty record the player doesn't have to be on his favorite team like it's a lot standings yeah and you click on the guy who's oh and four
Starting point is 00:16:23 and then if there's no one there and you text him or her and if not one and three and one and three and then to two and like that's it this already sounds like so much work my point is like I might be the only person in the fantasy world who hates trading like I just think it's exhausting I'm sure it is if I had 66
Starting point is 00:16:40 trades I don't not it look I'm talking about any one league like say i need to get better in one league it still sounds exhausting well and the oh and four guys like oh what you just want to come after me because you know that you can exploit me i'm not trading with you and then you're like you just no i think the importance of trading is don't be a dick and you don't have to destroy everyone in every trade like sometimes like just be honest i don't know i think simple simple the secret truth of trades is that they actually have to be even you have to be able to explain to someone why it makes sense for both of you or else no one's going to do the trade and that's really hard it is okay let's move on here
Starting point is 00:17:12 that's been four minutes. The point is it will even out or Cordell Patterson will just swallow the earth. I don't know. One of the other. Bill's a bup. Okay. Number two, weird stat that explains the NFL season. Sam Darnold literally leaves the entire NFL in rushing yards. Sorry, Russian touchdowns. I love this one. This is the greatest
Starting point is 00:17:28 stat. Darnal is also the first quarterback on record with five Russian touchdowns in four weeks. Michael Vic never did that. Cam Newton never did that. Lamar, Kyler Murray. Only Sam Donald has five rushing touchdowns through four weeks on record in NFL history. St. Donald is the QB 5 after four weeks, which is shocking to me. He's in every week starting QB in my mind. He has to be.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Is he? But like, what about, first of all, he's better as a passer. I don't want to tut my horn too much because I said Darnel would be good. I also thought Robbie Anderson will be the beneficiary and it's like mad madman so far. However, even me who has been on the Darnold train the whole time, I feel like once the rushing touchdowns come back, he's good in real life, but once the rushing touchdowns stop and they're going to stop, fantasy-wise, are you really starting him over like your other options? Well, I mean, he averages 300 yards a game. By the way, my future season long bet, Sam Darnold over passing yards looking like it's
Starting point is 00:18:21 going to hit, but he averages 300 yards a game. Would you start Darnold or Ryan Tannale, D.K.? Darnold. Darnold, just because, well, first of all, are Julio and A.J. Brown playing? Yeah, when they come back. Oh, God. They're actually pretty similar. because they're both
Starting point is 00:18:38 they have that like sneaky Konami code where they're rushing quarterbacks like Tannahill famously was a former receiver I Tannahill certainly track record is way better right now I think you just ride the hot hand though and that's Darnold. Also Darnold's schedule is
Starting point is 00:18:55 easy man like they don't play anybody Darnold is an option Darnold obviously is probably rostered in your league but like you can play him like he's good and the Panthers office. He is the definition of the a late round QB coming to life. This is exactly why you do it.
Starting point is 00:19:11 The rushing upside is not going to be there for the rest of the season, though. No, but it would be balanced out by the fact that while he was getting all those touchdowns, they were winning the games and he didn't have to throw that much. And then now he won't score as much, but they'll be losing more and he'll be throwing more. Okay. Number three, weird stat
Starting point is 00:19:26 that explains the 21 season so far. I've almost said 2020 every time. Okay. Derek Henry has more catches this season than Alvin Camara. Like four. He has four more. That's bizarre. How close is he to the career high? I should have checked this. Oh, yeah, that's a good question.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I believe he has 14 catches, and Alvin Camara has 10 currently. So Derek Henry in his NFL career, his career high for catches is 19 from a couple seasons ago. 19. He's already at 14. The crazy part about that. Conceivably could do this next week,
Starting point is 00:19:59 and we'll almost definitely do it by Halloween. Crazy. The craziest thing about this, this is not that interesting, but Jeremy McNickles, I think, is third among running backs and catches too. Like, they're just checking down to their running backs. Well, they don't have any receivers.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Your Browns are and lose, though, yeah. And they trade to Jono. What's even crazier is that you'd think that, oh, perhaps Derek Henry's catching more passes. They're perhaps lightning the load on the ground. Incorrect. He is on pace for 480 carries, which would be the most ever.
Starting point is 00:20:27 That's a lot. That's too many. What is, like, a hundred too many? You know how everyone, like, tries to trade for Derek Henry around this time, and you're just like, if you have like the best player, everyone's fielding you offers, you're like,
Starting point is 00:20:38 what would you actually have to be offered to even trade him away? Oh, God. Exhaustin question. Dalvin Cook is hurt. You would have to be offered like Stefan Diggs and Antonio Gibson. Or like you would need Kelsey
Starting point is 00:20:52 and a running back almost as good as Derek Henry. But I don't even know that is. You need like two two like second round players or like a first in a second round player. Would you take like Zeke and Kelsey for Derek Henry? Yeah. Sure.
Starting point is 00:21:05 DK. I'm just getting so exhausted thinking about these trade options. Oh, you really don't do trades. Okay, it's all right. So, only two players ever have led the league in carries yards and touchdowns. It was OJ Simpson once and Derek Henry, and he's about to do it back to back. Wow. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Wait, didn't, Craig, didn't he, wait, who showed me the staff before that Derek Henry's on pace for more carries than his high school? Yeah, that was me. He had 462 carries in that crazy high school season, and now he's on pace for 480, for 18 more. Oh my God, Derek Henry. Okay. Number four weird stat that explains the fantasy season so far.
Starting point is 00:21:45 George Kittle, not in the top 10 tight ends. George Kittle does not have a touchdown this year. The 49ers have 12 touchdowns as a team, but all 12 of those touchdowns have gone to 12 different players. Ross Jwellie added to the list last week. Just went beast mode for the 49ers. 12-9ers have scored. Kittles not one of them. Meanwhile, Debo Samuel, I believe, leads the N.
Starting point is 00:22:08 fill in receiving yards. Yeah. I didn't see this coming. I did not see this coming. I said this on the last episode. I think coming into the year, I was expecting Kittle and Iuke to sort of be the one-two punch in this offense.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Turns out it's just a one-punch offense. Stivo Samuel only. Kittle is not getting that involved. I would say Kittles underlying, like, numbers, which is something we talk about, his utilization, is pretty strong still. And he had a touchdown catch in his hands in this last game
Starting point is 00:22:36 against the Seahawks, Small Adams. and hit him and knocked the ball out. Like, I think the production is going to come from Kittle. But, I mean, it's just like the story of the 49ers so far. The season has been just extreme frustration if you didn't have Devo Samuel because the running back situation is a cluster fuck. The tight end, like I said, Ross Dwellie scored a touchdown before Kittle did.
Starting point is 00:22:56 But I think that makes him a bylaw because he'll have a good game soon. And it's one of those like, just ask the person who has the team. Again, sometimes Bilo, sometimes the person isn't going to, hasn't adjusted their expectations for a Bilo window. just ask the person, hey, are you interested in a trade? And then ask around and see what they're into Kittal or not. I think that Kittle is a buy low, but I also have zero interest in trying to buy low on Kittle. I think he might be the biggest by low in the league.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Like, I think he's in the running for the top by low in the league. His numbers, D.K. said, are pretty good. His underlying numbers. They're, like, really good. His underlying numbers suggest he's like a top two tight end in the league. It's the same thing as what D.K. said about Robert Woodson Cup, except, like, more extreme, unless you think Debo Samuel is going to be out here getting like 2,000 yards this season. Kittle's going to do better yardage-wise
Starting point is 00:23:40 and he's going to do better he's going to eventually get a touchdown. I think Kittles are by low. Okay. Speaking of Bailos, number five, weirdest stat explaining the NFL season. I probably rank this one wrong,
Starting point is 00:23:49 whatever. Jacobi Myers is the only wide receiver in NFL history with 1,000 receiving yards and zero touchdowns in his career. Yeah, this is not number five on the list. This is way lower. This is a curiosity.
Starting point is 00:24:02 It's not number five. I overrated this. I do like it, though. But Kittles of Bailow, so is Jacobi Myers. it's hard because he's coming off the game where he looked good on Sunday Day football. Having said that,
Starting point is 00:24:13 he will start scoring touchdowns eventually. Like, it has to happen. I don't know. What if he doesn't? Well, then it'll just be like a really cool stat and like we'll just keep talking about it. But realistically, he's going to start getting touchdowns and then when he does,
Starting point is 00:24:26 be like, oh, right, Jacoby Myers is a number one receiver that no one really values that because even last week he had like, he was a really good game. But when you start adding touchdowns into that mix, especially if you're in PPR, the amount of targets to get the amount of catches, you start adding scores into that.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I think that he's the classic thing of like, we always talk about this. It's hard to change your initial expectations of a player. No one's initial expectation in Jacoby Meyer is like, oh yeah, he's like a really solid wide receiver too. But like he will probably end the season as that. His last touchdown came in 2018 when he was playing for NC State. I saw this stat.
Starting point is 00:25:00 He has 112 career receptions. The previous record for most catches without a touchdown was 51. so he's more than doubled the old record. Myers kind of reminds me a little bit of Deontay Johnson. He's kind of like that guy where he's just really good at getting open, like shifty route runner, really reliable in the short and intermediate area. Deonti Johnson is certainly sort of,
Starting point is 00:25:23 I think he's shown more lately that he can get deep, even though Ben Rutherberger can't really throw it that far anymore. I think he has the ability to do that. But I want to see Jacobi Myers kind of like get more, get more love because I think he's a really good receiver. I'd rather have Jacoby Myers throwing passes to Deontay Johnson. There we go. Just trade Jacoby for Ben. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Do you actually think Jacoby Myers can throw it further than Ben right now? Yeah. Probably. It depends if it's the first or the fourth quarter. It's the first Ben. It's fourth down, no chance for Ben. Number six, weirdest stat explains the 2021 season. The Bills have outscored their opponents 118 to 21 in their last three games.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I will say that again. 118 for Buffalo, 21 for Buffalo's opponents in their last three games. So the opponents were Washington, with Heineke, Miami, with Percette, and Houston. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:19 So obviously there's a caveat there, but this is still just absolutely absurd. This is like, you know, Alabama just mowing down FCS teams in the beginning of the season. You know what I mean? Like,
Starting point is 00:26:29 this is incredible what they've done. These are NFL teams. I don't really, honestly, I don't really care who the quarterback is on the other team. It would be more impressive it was Mahomes, clearly.
Starting point is 00:26:38 But, like, they're doing this to NFL teams. This is absolutely buzzsaw, like, performance. And, by the way, this goes back to last year, if you go back to week 12 of last season, the bills have now won, and this includes playoffs, 11 of 13 games. So they lost the ASC championship game, and then they lost this series in week one.
Starting point is 00:26:56 In the last 13 games, those are their two losses. In that time, there's point differential is plus 212. they are fucking dominating. Having said that, dominant teams like offenses like this usually have at least two or three skill players
Starting point is 00:27:12 that you're like, well, I can definitely plug this guy in and he's going to be great. But the bills have Stefan Diggs, and then after that, I want it your confidence index and like, if you guys played this guy the rest of the season, how confident are you in? One to ten. Cole Beasley, in your flex.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Cole Beasley. Five. I'm like a three. Emmanuel Sanders. Four. For me, he's like higher. He's like a six for me. Zach Moss. Five.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Four. Devon Singletary. Three, two. And then tight end, Netflix. Tight end, Doss or Knox. Three. Isn't it weird that the bill is doing all this on offense and this is how we feel? Isn't that strange?
Starting point is 00:27:52 Well, they spread the ball around so much. There's just too many decent options and not enough really good options. Yeah, I guess it digs is 1A and then they have a bunch of three A's. Gabe Davis, too. They're like four or five, three, eight players. Yeah, it's all right. Number seven, weirdest stat. Brandon Cooks leads the NFL with a 35% target share.
Starting point is 00:28:12 So, I mean, if we're not, Cordell Patterson's carries here, which is 46. But Cooks is getting more than a third of the Texans targets. Someone is catching passes in Houston. I actually think Brandon Cooks is a buy low. Well, I think this would technically be a buy high, wouldn't it be? It's a buy high. It's a buy legit because no one's selling him low. But I actually think the Bills game.
Starting point is 00:28:32 where it's probably going to be one of his worst games the whole season. So if there's ever an opportunity to get in, this is it. Having said that the person drafted probably thinks they struck gold. So it's going to be really difficult. But I actually think it's legit just because, again, he will be forced fed until he gets hurt. He's had such a unique career. I just think Brandon Cook's his career has been fascinating. He's the Forrest Gump of like the last decade of football.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Seriously. He's played with Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Jared Goff, which is. whatever. And the Rams. But this was like the peak of the Rams. Yeah. And then Deshawn Watson and Tyrod Taylor, Davis Mills.
Starting point is 00:29:08 So he's had such an interesting career. I don't understand how he's been traded. What is it? Four times? Three times? Three times. Saints to Pats. Pats to Rams and then Rams to Texans.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah. I mean, heck, he's a good player. I definitely doubted him coming into the year. And I regret it because, you know, he was definitely cheap.
Starting point is 00:29:28 And people that drafted him were definitely getting paid. right, it's paying off for them. The two biggest dudes we missed were Cooks and Debo, right there and it's a very similar range. And through four weeks, those guys have been like the Real League winners.
Starting point is 00:29:43 There's a clear distinction here. When you say D.K., oh, the people who drafted him, it's paying off. They didn't draft him because I thought he was going to be good. He fell into their lap. They were like, fuck, I guess I'll take Brandon Cooks. They're never even going to tell you that, Craig. They'll never say it. They'll never admit it. I think he's a sell high big time. I mean,
Starting point is 00:29:59 what are, like, the only option, the only thing defenses need to do as they learn who Davis Mills is, as they learn what this offense is, it's to stop raining Cook. There is nothing else. I guess when Tyrod Taylor comes back, whenever that is, like, things could improve, but I don't see him putting, continuing this pace. I think he's still averaging almost 100 yards a game. There's no way that's going to keep up. I see that. I think trading someone who's, like, like a sell high is the hardest thing to do. I mean, Cordill-Patterson's one thing, but striking gold and being like, I should trade this is so much easier.
Starting point is 00:30:31 than done. Oh, Marquis Brown, Mike Williams, those type of guys who I have on my fantasy team, both would probably still be considered mighty sale highs. I ain't doing it. That's the thing, because it's like, you're like, oh, yeah, Mike Williams is Michael Thomas, but like bigger and faster. So like, yeah, I'm going to trade him. Like, no fucking way, please. Legit, if somebody offered me, like, straight up, I'll give you DeAndre Hopkins for Mike Williams. I would think about it. You guys don't play fantasy baseball. I'd be like, yeah, I don't know. You guys don't play fantasy baseball, do you? I do. Not anymore. I think the first time I ever had one of those was like Edinson Volquez.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Like it must have been 14 years ago. And you just kind of lucked. He was like the number three pitcher in baseball. I just picked him up off waivers. And I remember. You were 12? You remember this? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:14 How could I forget? And I remember reading something that was like, you should trade him. And I was like, I have the best pitcher in baseball. Why would I trade him away? And then he sucked. And I was like, oh, it felt like an introduction to adulthood anyway. Damn. Speaking of introduction to adulthood.
Starting point is 00:31:28 and then Elder, el senior, senileness, seniority. Number eight, weirdest stat that explains 2021. Ben Rothesberger is the, is in the bottom five
Starting point is 00:31:41 of ESPN's quarterback rating and the other four players are all rookies. So quarterback rating is like one of the two or three stats that's like the best quarterback stat we have. The bottom five is Rathesberger, Trevor Lawrence,
Starting point is 00:31:55 Zach Wilson, Davis Mills, and Justin Fields. The Steelers are the only team that is yet to score more than 17 points in a game this year. Is Rathusberger the worst starter in the NFL? Let me actually phrase it this way, Craig. You know how soccer in international soccer in it? Believe me, I don't know that much about it, but they do loans where they loan players to other teams for X amount of months or whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:17 And if you could just have any of the rookie quarterback, say, could you have, if you could choose Zach Wilson versus Rotherberg or just for now, you would obviously do that, right? Like any of the rookies? I don't think I would do Davis Mills I think I would do all the way of guys That's where you job like Yeah but you had to say that out loud I mean the fact that you had to clarify that stunts And he said I don't think I would
Starting point is 00:32:37 But here's the weird part is he's so bad That he's checking down so much That it's become an engine for fantasy Where Deontay Johnson's doing well Naja Harris is Naja Harris is incredible this year In part because Ben has to check it down so much In a weird way
Starting point is 00:32:52 If the offense got better These guys might be worse in fantasy It's the most bat-shit catch-22 paradigm there is in fantasy. They're 27th in total yards, 28th and points scored, yet they are only one of three teams with the top 12 running back
Starting point is 00:33:05 and wide receiver in the league. Deonti Johnson leads the league and targets per game. Dodgy Harris is the RB7. I don't think these guys are going to get worse. I don't think they're sell highs because the Steelers are at the fucking bottom of the sea right now.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I think they would get better as the offense is better. Again, if you know why, if you've heard me talk about this, Ben Rothesberger checking down on fourth and three to Nagee Harris who loses a yard is worth points. That is fucking stupid and I'll never hear otherwise. Hi Fitz is like, okay, I'm going to use a Matrix metaphor here. Hyfitz is like Neo trying to like beat the Matrix.
Starting point is 00:33:42 And I'm the guy who's just like, you know what? I know this steak isn't real, but it's still delicious. I don't fucking give a shit about the scoring. This is a thing that we just changed six years ago. Okay, you want to go ahead. You want to change, if you want to change the fact that PPR is the standard, go for it. Be my guest, I'm not going to help you. DK, when the Seahawks won the Super Bowl against the Broncos, I don't even think PPR was standard on ESPN at that time.
Starting point is 00:34:11 That wasn't that long ago. Okay, so go ahead, try and change it. I will not be taking part in that. Everyone can change it. Your own league settings, your custom settings, you can decide it every year. You know what this is more exhausting than thinking about trades. All right, let's move on to the next one. Fine.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Yahoo's have PPR. Just throwing it out there. There's settings that you can adjust. It's the whole point. Number nine, DeAndre Swift is the RB7. DK. Tute-toot. Yeah, Tute T-TK.
Starting point is 00:34:40 By the way, one of my hot takes prior to the season, some of my hot takes did not age well, but the Dandre Swift, RB1 season is looking solid, at least through four weeks. He was a Glansberg, man. Like, no casual fan of fantasy who's in their draft is thinking about DeAnd
Starting point is 00:34:55 Swiff this year. No, I think he had some. D.K.K. was out here. The Lions with Jared Gough, I didn't have a single friend that was like, you know who I'm into this year, D'Andre Swift. Oh, they just got Jamal Williams? I'm into D'Andre Swift. People were trying to ship DeAndre Swift to other.
Starting point is 00:35:08 People were trying to trade Swift this offseason. I think he was like a popular, like, get rid of this guy before, you know, his value tanks. In the dynasty world. Yeah, in Dynasty. However, he's, I mean, he's looked really good. And this, again, in Haifist, just let it go. This is the power of reception.
Starting point is 00:35:25 in fantasy. This is why past catching backs are still valuable. I got out my rent. I'm good. All right. He's second among running backs this year in catches with 23. He's first in receiving yards with $199. He's not getting a ton of carries. However, he's still getting the more valuable usage in the passing game and it's really paying off for him. And honestly, I think he looks really good. This last week was his least exciting game, at least from the points point of view. But as Dwayne McFarland for PFF pointed out, like he's still getting the really, really good usage. He ran 33 routes compared to Jamal Williams five. He out snapped Williams 52 to 21, and he's running the vast majority of passing routes
Starting point is 00:36:08 at the running back position, and he's getting a ton of the short down and distance and two-minute offense stuff. So, like, all the stuff, all the underlying usage is really strong for him to continue this and to continue to be running back one, even though he's on a shitty team, and even though he's not getting a ton of carries. So it's just fun to me that this is all kind of like actually happening like we expected because a lot of time, you know, in fantasy, weird shit happens and you're like, I never could have thought that was going to happen. Like, I never thought Debo Samuel would be a top three receiver. But, you know, the, the John Jay Swift one to me was like something I was targeting all offseason. So I'm excited that's happening. All right. Number 10,
Starting point is 00:36:43 weird stat that explains the season. Daniel Jones is the QB6. Yeah. Dimes. Daniel Jones is seventh in passing yards. We've talked about it several times. If it's, I'm starting to buy it. I'm starting to buy it. I actually think this might be a real thing. Y'all are so dumb.
Starting point is 00:37:02 So with the giant caveat, Craig's not buying it. He's not taking a clear. Reargey bias, once again, rears its ugly head. All right. I'm a jaded Giants fan. Maybe you shouldn't listen to anything I say.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Having said that, I actually think this offense kind of looks good, man. And in ways, because they stopped doing what Jason Garrett did and, like, they were just really aggressive this week, I'm just going to throw some things at you won.
Starting point is 00:37:22 I think Daniel Jones is either first or second in like deep completion rate, like deep accuracy rate. Because deep bowl's good. And now if they don't screw it up, which Jason Garrett said on, whatever. But Cadarious Tony and Saquan working underneath while John Ross and Kenny Goliday are deep, that's a big boy offense. That's like really hard to defend. The offensive lines playing better so that they have time to actually have these developing routes. And Daniel Jones.
Starting point is 00:37:50 for the first time, I think I've talked about this with you guys, but like the first time in at least a year, my little needle on how I feel about him changed in that game. He looked like an adult. He looked aware of his surroundings. And I just looked like an adult. I'm just saying. Like he looks, you know, again, it's a funny way of putting it. It's the same comment. It's the Giants next game. It's the Cowboys, Rams, Panthers, Chiefs, Raiders, Bucks. Who knows? Having said that, you know what? Oh, God. Like, I really did choose to say this at the wrong time looking at that, looking at that schedule going for. But at the same time,
Starting point is 00:38:21 if those are also teams that, if they, like if those end up being shootouts where they can't just try to grind out a 17 to 12 win. Like, you know what? Maybe they have to throw.
Starting point is 00:38:30 If they let Jones throw, I, I am actually, Cadarstonian Sinkwan are pretty incredible screen options. What do you want, do you want them to go 8 and 9 and then sign Daniel Jones to a $28 million a year contract?
Starting point is 00:38:44 Because that's what's going to happen if he continues to play decent. I didn't choose to just be, roped it in every single season like a moron, but here I am. I was rooting for them to win the Nsuits'Ns last year with a six and ten record. I'm an idiot. It happens every time. I really actually still think that the Giants, if they'd won the Ns East, would have given
Starting point is 00:39:02 the bucks a real run in that wild card game, just like Washington did. Okay. Craig is just not buying it. You take Daniel Jones over Rathesberger, though. I would do that in the Sands. Okay. Okay. Weird stat explains the season. The Rams have the fastest offense in the NFL, if you adjust for situation.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Yeah. I don't know if this is necessarily weird, but they really are going like scorched earth policy in terms of like their offense. They're one of the top, they are the top ranked offense in terms of snap. Sorry, snaps per minute or whatever in situation neutral. They're running a lot of plays. God, I can't say that. Yes. They're running a lot of plays. Yes, they're running a lot of plays. They're running fast. They're also ninth in situation neutral pass rate.
Starting point is 00:39:53 So they're pass heavy and they're fast. So this is a fantasy gold mine, in other words. And to be clear, when we say fast, we don't mean like Cooper Cup is speed 40 or dash fast. We mean like they are snapping ball with time on the play clock leading to like 70 plays a game, whereas like some teams like the Falcons are trying to run 50. Correct. Sorry. And I know this is like a little bit of word suit.
Starting point is 00:40:14 But yes, basically what they're doing is great. for fantasy because they're snapping the ball quickly and they're passing a lot. The other teams, the top five, and I got these numbers from football outsiders, the other five fastest offenses are the bills, Eagles, buccaneers, and chargers. Not surprising all those are, you know, pretty much big fantasy teams. Like big fantasy teams. Let's say the Eagles pass game is not as, maybe that's a little bit like different, but for the most part, these are players, like you want the receivers on these teams.
Starting point is 00:40:43 So yeah, I mean, I think just bottom line, the reason I wanted to talk about the Rams in this situation is that, like, they are turning out to be kind of like what we thought. Like, Craig, you were on top of this like from the beginning. Like the Rams were just going to go all out, pass heavy, blah, blah, blah, especially once KMakers went down. I think Daryl Henderson is also going to be incredible for the rest of the season if he can stay healthy.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I'm a little concerned if you can do it, but if he can do it. Yeah. What happened to your Sony Michelle second half of the season bet? Henderson played way more than I thought. I thought they were going to limit Henderson with the ribs injury, but they didn't. They gave him like, didn't he get like 80% of snaps?
Starting point is 00:41:20 I just thought they weren't going to do that. He's been really good. Honestly, he's been averaging for two points again. 80% of snaps. That is what Todd Gurley was getting. And I just didn't think, I thought rib injury two weeks out. It's like clearly not as big of a deal as I thought.
Starting point is 00:41:33 He's a guy who I refuse to believe is good at fantasy football for sure. He played 90% of the snaps, which is more than what Todd Gurley was doing in his peak. So, you know, Darrell Henderson. I still, I still pretty much believe, like, the whole, the equation, the calculus with the Rams backfield is not that they're going to split it. And the reason I wouldn't have said like Sony Michelle is a by low a couple weeks ago is that I think Henderson could get hurt again.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I was never thinking like they're going to have like a split backfield. I'm just stunned that he came back from a rib's injury and is right back to where Todd Gurley was like immediately. But here we go. We'll see how it goes. Number 12. Weird then explains the season. Bengals offense is one of the slowest in the league. Did you guys know that the Bengals are three and one?
Starting point is 00:42:17 Yeah, they're only three-point dogs right now to Green Bay. Feels like we're getting a little overreactive being the Bengals team three-in-one. They haven't beaten anybody. They're first in the AFC North currently, which is bad. They beat the shitty Steelers. They just beat Jacksonville on a Thursday night. And then they also beat Chicago. Oh, they beat Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:42:39 I think it's interesting that, like, they're one of the slower offense of the league. Joe Mixon, who's hurt right now, obviously, has been, I think, pretty disappointing if you have them on your team. Jamar Chase has been great. We didn't know how the three receivers would break down with Higgins, Jamar Chase, and Tyler Boyd. I feel like we still don't. Yeah, Higgins had a good start to the season. Jamar's been consistent throughout,
Starting point is 00:43:00 and then Boyd has been finishing strong lately. So I kind of agree, but I don't think it's that crazy that this offense is one of the slowest. I honestly think this has to do with Burroughs knee. I think that's what this is. They're not throwing the law a lot. I think it's going to change throughout the years it gets healthy, but I think this is all just protecting.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I mean, he didn't get sacked in that Pittsburgh game. So one of the assumptions that we made in the offseason, I don't know if it was an assumption or like just a projection, was that they were going to be one of the past heaviest and fastest teams in the NFL, because that's what they were last year. It's situation neutral pass rate, situation neutral, like, speed on offense.
Starting point is 00:43:33 They were both very, very high because most of the time they were losing, blah, blah, blah. This season, it's all changed. They are 31st in neutral situation pace, so they're the second slowest team. And then they are also third. 31st in total plays 55 per game. For context, the bills are averaging 73 plays per game.
Starting point is 00:43:53 The Titans are averaging 76 plays for game, but I believe they've played in two overtime periods. So, like, they're 20-something plays behind the top dog in the NFL. And again, this goes to, like, fantasy opportunity. There's just fewer plays, fewer, like the pie that are splitting up between the players on this team is smaller. this could change going forward. I think it will.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Yeah, but this is like, I thought this was just like really notable because, you know, they're just not as high octane, I guess, is what we thought they might be. But even so, like, Burroughs been really efficient. Like, everybody has still kind of,
Starting point is 00:44:30 like, they're weathering the storm of this slow-paced offense, which is a great sign. Like, everybody is still startable. Burrow is startable. All three receivers are kind of startable. Mixing's been startable. I'm going to criticize my own list and say,
Starting point is 00:44:41 I don't think, I don't like this stat. I don't think that this is, as much as I helped. I think Craig's, I think, I feel it. In a weird way, aren't there more players in the Bills you feel comfortable starting, on the Bengals, you feel comfortable starting than the bills?
Starting point is 00:44:55 100%. It's weird. You know, what Justin Herbert did last night in the Monday night football game, we're recording this on a Tuesday. The one problem sometimes with having a skill player on a team with a really good quarterback, because they're so good, they spread the ball around too much.
Starting point is 00:45:09 It's like Shanahan. The reason the 49 hours are annoying is because Shanhan's schemes things so well, that 12 different players can score in their first 12 goddamn touchdowns. Exactly. And I know that Michael Thomas with Breeze was like really strong for those two seasons. But other than that, Breeze was another one of those guys where it'd be like the first nine passes went to nine different receivers.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Like, and Herbert did that on Monday night. So that's the problem with the bills. They're spreading around the ball too much. Well, no, honestly, it's not the problem with Herbert. I don't think because if Herbert had actually thrown better, Mike Williams would have had like 120 yards in touchdown. He was just one pass, but he had four targets. No, no, you missed them at least twice.
Starting point is 00:45:42 four targets. Four targets. Four targets. He should hit him. Anyway. But I'm just saying in general, that is kind of like
Starting point is 00:45:49 a thing where it's like, God damn it, the quarterback's so good. I think that's why DeAndre Hopkins is having harder times. Kyler Murray got better
Starting point is 00:45:54 and the offense is better. He's hitting the fourth wide receiver for touchdowns now. All right. Let's keep that in mind for next year. Okay. That's your power hour.
Starting point is 00:46:02 We are going to hit a couple of things. DK, the all 22. How are all 22 your teams doing this week? DK., how did you do?
Starting point is 00:46:09 It was a pretty good week. Definitely. finished better than last week, above 500. And again, I'm not going to give you the exact thing because I didn't tally it up. A lot of my leagues have like split standings where you get multiple wins per week. And I'm just too lazy and who cares? What gives you more week? What gives you more angst?
Starting point is 00:46:29 Me asking you to do the math live to count the 22 things, me bitching about PPR or trade offers. Definitely the PPR thing. By a lot. Just checking. I want to actually check out the Scott Fish League Bowl, or Scott Fish Bowl, sorry, league that I was in. I was like one of five teams total. And again, there's like hundreds of teams in this league. I was one of five that lost both Michael Thomas and Cam Acres. So I drafted my draft was, and again, we drafted this like in the middle of summer. It was way before Michael Thomas injury was even reported.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Yeah. It's not hundreds of thousands. It's a tournament. It was like 2,000 entries. Yeah. There were, I drafted. Cammakers in the third, Michael Thomas in the fourth, Alan Robinson in the fifth, and then like a few rounds later, Chase Claypool. My team sucks.
Starting point is 00:47:20 So bad. And by the way, like you can't, you know, you can't like put anybody on IR so I had to like end up dropping. And, you know, it's like,
Starting point is 00:47:29 I don't know. It's pretty competitive. And I'm in last place in that one. So that one's dragging me down. It's like an anchor. D.K., would you rather have a really bad week in all of your leagues?
Starting point is 00:47:39 Like, let's say we're talking like two, and 20. But you have a great night. You have a great week of sleep. Like, Calvin's just really good. Or would you rather go 20 and two, and Calvin just keeps you up all night for a week? I would easily rather have the sleep.
Starting point is 00:47:53 We'll see. Come playoffs? Hey, let me put it this way, Craig. I sleep better when my teams go well. However, I don't want to be up all night with Calvin. Come playoffs. We'll see if you say that again. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:48:05 You stick to those guns. Deky, how much sleep do you get these days? I'm like a seven hour a night. six and a half, seven hour a night guy. I usually go to bed around like 11 and then I get a 6.
Starting point is 00:48:14 3. That actually feels about right and I don't have a child that I know of. I'm closer to 8. I get like 8, 8 and a half every night. Well, that's because
Starting point is 00:48:25 you don't drink coffee. Yeah, exactly. Maybe who's the unmotivated one now? My organs are happy. Yours aren't. You actually know you don't get REM back? Like if you miss REM, there's no making it up, period.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Yeah. Well. Cool. Anyway, let's get to fantasy court. Actually, wait, bad beats real quick. I want to shout out Mark. who lost his opponent
Starting point is 00:48:42 when his opponent Lamar Jackson running for the three yards to get the Ravens that's tough and the Brock's your fist so many of the same they lost on that play
Starting point is 00:48:51 which is hilarious that's brutal he should hit up John Harbaal let him know I won by the way I won the other night because Derek Carr threw that pick
Starting point is 00:48:59 in the fourth quarter and then he didn't do anything on the ensuing possession he had like four incompletions I was like holy shit congratulations yeah okay fantasy court
Starting point is 00:49:09 Craig, take us through it. All right, this is from Joe. You guys didn't do the thing. This is from Joe. Joe. Sorry, I'm usually reading the emails. Craig clears his throat. It's all right.
Starting point is 00:49:21 He goes, what's up, guys? Love the pod. Listen to every episode. I'm Joe from Oakland. Craig, shout out the Bay. Shout out Danville where I grew up. Danville. That is cool, Joe.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Sounds like a good place. Sounds like a podcast that we could do on the side. You live in Danville now, Craig. Yeah. What's funny is I actually grew up in San Marlon, which is touching Danville. It's right next to it. And he says, I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
Starting point is 00:49:41 So I've been in this league for five years. I only know one other person in the league, though. The commissioner is married to my fiancé's cousin. They needed an extra guy a few years back, and I couldn't say no. Here's the situation. Since I've been in the league, passing touchdowns have always been worth four points, just like most leagues.
Starting point is 00:49:57 However, I discovered that this year passing TDs are all of a sudden worth six, which greatly increases the value of quarterbacks. As far as I know, the scoring change was never announced. We are all in a group chat on Instagram, and we never discussed changes to the scoring rules. We didn't play last year because of the pandemic, but still never heard a whisper about changing the scoring system.
Starting point is 00:50:15 All he said in one of the group text was, check the settings and let me know if I need to change anything. Super vague, but I didn't think that he would make such an impactful change without specifically telling us. It just so happens that the commissioner drafted Patrick Bahams in the middle of the second round. Seems like a reach, but he grabbed that one player who profits the most from this change.
Starting point is 00:50:34 I understand that I should have checked the scoring system before the draft, but I feel like this is shady. caveat the commissioner is like he said is the husband to my fiance's made of honor and i don't want to cause my family drama what should i do he said plus he could he also said plus he could kick his ass the commissioner could kick joe's ass so a few points of clarification unfortunate commissioner changed the rules from four points for past dutch sense the six yeah didn't really tell anyone did the classic like the bare minimum like check and make sure everything's good drafted my home's kind of probably knowing that he changed the rules.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah. And then it's like, sorry, he's the, what's the, he's the fiance's cousins, what? Who is this? Who's the commissioner is married to his fiance's cousin? Don't give it to me, that goes back and forth. Start with the guy who's emailing us is connected to the hip bones. It's his fiance's cousin's husband. His fiance's cousins, husband.
Starting point is 00:51:33 And the cousin's the best man for the wedding. Correct. Well, the cousin is the maid of honor. Yeah. Made of honor. Sorry. Made of honor. Sorry. I'm really bad at keeping track of things.
Starting point is 00:51:43 So they're very close. They're very close. So the, so the, maid of honor and his wedding's husband is the commissioner who could kick his ass. Correct. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:51:52 do I bring this up? Like, what do I do? This is really hard, actually. I think you bring it up. You just don't make a stink about it. I think you're like,
Starting point is 00:52:00 you're having a beer at the wedding. And you kind of, you're going to wait to the wedding. Well, it's not, what are they going to change the, Whenever you see him, whenever the wedding is, whenever you see him next, you're having to be here standing next to him and you're like, hey,
Starting point is 00:52:13 so what's up with this six touchdowns thing? I saw you drafted Mahomes in the second. Why don't you let any of us know about that? That's quite the move. I would really make it kind of, like, kind of funny and relaxed and make it seem like you don't really care, but then figure out what his answer is. And then if he starts being an asshole, you're like, listen, dude, that was pretty shitty of you. If it's the wedding, I was going to say, if you go to the wedding day, you could pull the godfather
Starting point is 00:52:32 and be like, you cannot have a refusal requests on my wedding day. like that would just solve it that's not a bad idea actually doing on a wedding he'll have to say if you ask on your wedding you could do it in the speech you could say in your speech like you could put it in your vows he's right there Joe if you do this in your speech
Starting point is 00:52:49 in your vows oh my God I vow to never Does anyone have an objection Just stare at it We never debated the scoring changes Honey I vowed to never deceive you Like our commissioner deceived us in the 2021 Fantasy League.
Starting point is 00:53:07 This is really hard, though. You have to bring it up. I think you do it as a joke first, kind of test the waters. What do you guys think? I think it's too late to change the rule, though, isn't it? Well, you still got to bring it up. You got to fucking make it accountable.
Starting point is 00:53:16 You got to bust his balls. I think at this point... We tell everybody ad nauseum in the preseason. What's the first thing you do? Check the rules. You read the fucking settings. Like, sorry, that's just...
Starting point is 00:53:28 I mean, that is what we tell everyone. I feel like we should abide by that. But if the settings have always been the same, and every year... you go, hey guys, check the settings. They're like, why don't I have to check the settings? Did he say how many years they've been playing for this? It's not a keeper,
Starting point is 00:53:41 he said, since I've been in the league. Five years, five years. Yeah, five years, if you have like one thing and then you change it for five years, I do have some empathy for that. It's kind of, it's kind of funny, actually. You can't just change the rules after five years. I'm not to ask people. I'm going to go ahead and reach in here and change this setting.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Him saying, hey, check the scoring rolls, make sure everything's cool. Just one time is really, really diabolical. That's like how DC works. That's just like, hey, we change the billy and any problem with it. Just like, yeah, cool. Like, you know. Bring it up to him, Joe.
Starting point is 00:54:12 See what he says. I'm curious. Respond. Respond back. This reminds me of the ringer, the ringer fantasy league draft where quarterbacks were going off the board like crazy in the first round. And Craig's thinking, Craig's sitting here thinking like, what are these people doing? He didn't know it was a super flex league.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Oh, man. My team's hanging in there. I know. Your team is just pretty good. the way, I changed the name of my team. To what? You did? Craig. Craig's team, his name is Danny Kelly's team, because he's an asshole. It's really funny. And now Craig's team is ahead of me in the standings, and so I
Starting point is 00:54:47 changed my into Craig Horlebex team. I wasn't going to bring this up, T.K., but now that you've actually waded into the waters, I did beat you this week. I'm surprised. I wasn't going to say it, but. That was you? I thought I was playing just, I thought I was playing sales. Oh, Craig? You literally fell. Oh my God. You idiot. You literally walked right into my trap. The tangled web that Craig is weaving.
Starting point is 00:55:16 And just like that, it has paid off. That is so fucking great. That happened in real time. Holy shit. I was like, I played sales. I definitely did not play hyphids. That's hilarious. That is rich.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Compelling and rich. We can end on that note. What an incredible. I think that's all we got. I don't think we're really going to top that. No, that's it, boy. That's hilarious. All right.
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Starting point is 00:56:13 And we're- Love those stars. We're going to tell you how to do it because you've probably never done it before because it's new. So you go to the page and it says, ring your fantasy football show. And there's like a little bell to get notifications.
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Starting point is 00:56:52 Thank you, Lauren. Lauren. Thank you, the animals. Okay. All right. House the Rising Sun. D.K.'s music case in mine are just way the fuck off. I thought you liked old
Starting point is 00:57:04 I thought you liked old stuff Yeah What is your music taste Craig It's kind of all over the map To be quite honest But I like Like 60s and 70s like rock Like I like like Mamas and the Pappas
Starting point is 00:57:19 I love like Creedens Clearwater Revival You just drove six hours for a wedding Yeah What were you listening to in the car Other than podcasts? Well It's more like background music Because I was with my girlfriend
Starting point is 00:57:31 So it's like, it's not like we're just like sitting quietly listening to music. We did for a little bit, but luckily we have similar music taste. Yeah, it's like 60s and 70s like rock. And then I like like, you know, I'm not, me and my friend Chris talk about this all the time. Top 40 music is good. I love pop. I love the top 40 bullshit. I like all that.
Starting point is 00:57:48 I think it's good. I like Billy Eilis. I like Olivia Lago. I actually agree. I like Lady Gaga. It's actually sometimes fun. But then, you know, John Mayer, Casey Musk guys. I'm just, I like all that.
Starting point is 00:57:59 I like most, I like rap. Where do you think that we differ, though? I don't know. Just all the bands you name, I feel like I just don't listen to those bands. Stan Gets. You don't catch me listening to Stan Gets on the Saturday. You're not into like the jazz.
Starting point is 00:58:12 That's fine. I get that. That's D.K.'s fantasy teams too. It's about the players that you don't play. That's... D.K.'s like Ryan Gosling and La La Land. He's like, you don't like jazz. You never heard of jazz.
Starting point is 00:58:25 L.A. worships everything values nothing. I like that movie. Yeah, I can tell them. I don't know how to respond to that. But that's fine. We'll convert you. We'll get you into some Stan Getz here. Maybe we can get the rights to a stand get song for our intro.
Starting point is 00:58:42 There we go. I'm sure the audiences would love that. High Fitz is done. I'm just thinking about things LA worships and doesn't value. Everything. We value Lakers tickets. Lose it only for three years and never got to go because that shit's $400 to get the goddamn door. Same of the Rams ticket, man.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Chargers, you know, it's just so hard. Okay. All right. We're pulling the plug here. Goodbye, everyone. We didn't talk about how the stadium with a roof got rained out. Oh, yeah. I actually did want to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Steve Young on the field being, Steve Young on the field being like, so we're going to get struck by lighting sideways, and if we are going to get struck by lighting sideways, why are they letting us on the field right now? I thought that was such a good question. He's asking the questions we all have. He's like, we're standing on the field.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Never got explained why the players I mean, I know the answer is probably just like a legal lightning. It's like a legal thing. And like ESPN is like, we don't care. However, I can't believe they're just like, yeah, if Adam Schafter gets struck by lighting, who gives a shit? But like, you know, got to, you know. I mean, there's so many things that are funny about this.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Number one, they spent like how many billions of dollars on this thing and it doesn't, you can't play there when it's raining. The fact that it's the chargers is funny. There's a giant lightning bolt on the field. I also want to put into context that the pre, before this. so far stadium is built. It's the most expensive stadium ever. The Raiders Stadium was also the most expensive stadium. That was $2 billion. That was the most expensive stadium ever. So this is more than twice what the previous record was at $5 billion.
Starting point is 01:00:14 But they wanted that nice, they wanted that nice L.A. breeze to swing through. I mean, I get that. And people were answering, I was like joking about this like lightning pause or whatever. It was the thunderstorms in the area. And people kept like being like very serious, like, oh, look, it's why it's open on the side. And my first thought was exactly what you said Steve Young said, which is, I actually didn't know that lightning went sideways. Like, how does that work? I don't think it does. I'm not a scientist. I don't know enough about lightning to be like, that definitely can't happen. Yeah. Anyway, that was funny. I was more surprised it was raining in L.A. I got to say, yesterday was the weirdest L.A.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Weather Day I think I've ever experienced. There's so much about L.A. weather they don't tell you. It was like 80 degrees, extremely humid. It was not raining, and it was thundering and lightning, like crazy. It was bizarre. It was the weirdest day. That's cold weather, like everywhere else in the country. The thing I have to say, though, about living in LA, there's some things people, like, oh, it's the beach.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Things people don't tell you, among other things, is like you just don't see the sky for, like, June. There is no sky in LA. It's just smog. And you move there, and you're like, why is there just a constant? cloud of smog smothering the city and blotting out the sun. And they're like, it's called the June gloom. Like, did you expect to see the sky before July 4th? Like, I was the moron. And I'm like, that never comes up. The underlying secret is that September and October are better weather months than June and July in L.A. Anyway, oh, okay. This has gone on too long, but I have so many
Starting point is 01:01:53 thoughts on L.A. I don't want to get into it all right now. Five stars. Five. Five stars. Thank you all.

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