The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking This Week's Top Buy and Sell Trade Candidates

Episode Date: September 28, 2022

We power rank our five favorite fantasy players to buy low on after a slow start to the season, as well as five players to trade away before it's too late. We finish the show by holding Fantasy Court. (4:00) - Joe Mixon, Bengals (6:25) - Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Chiefs (8:53) - Treylon Burks, Titans (11:15) - Najee Harris, Steelers (14:17) - Kadarius Toney, Giants (17:36) - Tom Brady, Bucs (23:35) - Raheem Mostert, Dolphins  (27:05) - Brandin Cooks, Texans (29:55) - Deebo Samuel, 49ers (32:56) - Cordarrelle Patterson, Falcons (46:23) - Fantasy Court Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Additional Production: Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Would you bet a few thousand dollars that you could sink an eight-foot putt? What about 10 grand that you could win a drag race against a Camaro with a thousand horsepower? If you bet two million dollars, could you bet it all on one football game? Maybe you wish you could, but you probably wouldn't. Gamblers is about the people who did. From the Ringer podcast network, listen to Gamblers Season 2 on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyfitz.

I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck. Today it is power hour every week. We are power ranking. On Wednesdays during the season, this week, we are once again power ranking. Our buy lows or sell highs after three weeks. All our best trade advice. We did it last week. People loved it.

We're going right back to the well. This is peak trade season right now. This is all people are talking about. It is. Everyone still thinks they can win if they can just fix something. If only I can trade my bad bench players for you. your best starter, I will then win. Yeah. I feel like I'm Matt Damon in The Departed where he's like, look, I'm Irish.

I'll do this thing until I'm dead, tell him, like 70 or whatever. You got to tell me there's a problem. That's how I'm with my teams. I never try and fix anything. But this applies to people who are 3 and 0 and 3. We've got a lot of emails today being like, I'm 3 and 0. I don't think my team is that good. I'm trying to ship everybody out. And we got a lot of I'm 0.3. I'm dying. I'm desperate. I need help. My family's starving. Yeah. Spend less on candles. Yeah.

So obviously, by low, players we think will do better going forward, sell high, players we think we'll do worse. But also it's like about perception.

So that's, sometimes we're going to argue on this about whether a player will do better or not. Sometimes what we're arguing about is, yeah, sure, the player will get better.

But like, the person as Alvin Camara knows that Alvin Camara won't just have six points a game forever. So can you get a discount, whatever. That's honestly,

we probably argue more about whether the discount exists or not. So with that said, we're going to go through, we're going to do it, Power Hour style. If you're not familiar with Power Arrowle, I said Power Owl.

That'll be next week. We'll power rank owls. Power Owls. DK. And Craig both sent me their list of Bilo's Cell Highs. I made my own. I ranked them this week. So if you don't like the order, you can hopefully Craig or D.K.

speaks on your behalf of how stupid I am. We're going to go ranking them 1 to 10. Every two minutes, you will hear this sound from Tom Tom, Club. Incredible. Yep. Ah, we can hear it now. So we have an admission to make. Yeah. Confession time.

We have not been hearing that in our headphones the entire time we've been doing this. But making it out. We know what TomTom is and sounds like, but we have not heard it every time. We have had a timer at two minutes. So we knew what the time was. Now we have Kai. Shout out Kai who's actually playing it. Kai. But yeah.

Yeah, art is a lie. None of it was real. It was all fake. We were like, I had to have a second computer sharing a screen in the Zoom to have the timer up so we could see it. I had to add the music in and post because I couldn't. handle all that while recording. All that's changed now, baby. Part of the reason we've been highly disrespectful to the TomTom Club music, whatever. It's definitely, it's a, it's a different feeling now. Like, having that music in your ears gets me hyped up. So again, I'm ranking by low, sell highs, all the trade advice. One big thing. We're going to get into it. How did you

rank these hyvits based on what you're, what you thought was the smartest move, your favorite move, the gutsyest call? Uh, ones that I just nodded to most vigorously in a little. Like, when I saw them and I looked at them. I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's a good idea. Like, I can't, like, quantify that for you, but that's, like, basically the metric I used as we went down here. There's, like, one exception. All right, with that said, Kai, start the clock. Number one, DK, and I both had this one. Dekal let you do it. By low on Joe Mixen. Bengals running back. DeK can take it away. This one feels pretty clear. He leads the NFL in touches so far, 71 touches. He's third

in rush attempts, fourth in targets with 20. He's getting 100% of the Bengals goal line. looks or close to it. He's getting most of the long down and distance looks, which means lots of dump offs and things of that nature. He just hasn't scored a touchdown yet. Like, that's the big thing. And I think that the Bengals offense is better than it has shown so far. There's still going to be the issue where teams are playing on like two high stuff, trying to eliminate the explosive play. That'll be good for mixing long term. I don't know. I just think he's about ready to explode. Right now he is the RB 16 in PPR, which is, I mean, probably, it's not like dramatically bad, but it's definitely worse than a lot of people were expecting.

if someone's ready to kind of jump ship and thinks he's not going to do what he was expected to do, or maybe they're just afraid of this little injury thing that's happening right now. What was the injury that he had? So he tweaked his ankle on Sunday and then the Bengals were playing the Dolphins on Thursday, so we're recording this

Tuesday. So he's probably going to play, he's probably fine. If he doesn't have a great Thursday game, Thursday game, don't care. I'm with you, D.K. The case you're mixing is super simple. He leads the NFL and goal to go snaps. Like, Joe Among running backs,

22 times, you know, it's first and goal, second and goal, whatever. Joe Mixon's been on the field 22 times. He's zero touchdowns. 22 snaps in gold to go is literally more than Austin Echler and Dalvin Cook combined. And yet Joe Mixon is not scored a touchdown. So he's going to get them in bunches. Like hopefully, you know, if you don't have them Thursday or maybe, you know, short week, whatever coming off the injury.

But when Joe Mixon starts to have like a two or three touchdown game, which I think is going to happen soon, the person who has them is going to be like, oh, thank God. You know, right now, the person as Joe Mixon probably isn't think of him as a top four running back. But Joe Mixon is a top four running back. It just hasn't happened yet. Yeah, the underlying utilization, the usage, the way that they're basically just feeding him, the rock. Everything is very positive.

It just hasn't really happened production-wise yet. So I think that's going to happen, though. This is a great call. Tom Tom! Wow, that was clean. Great song. We used to look at the timer and we'd kind of know when things are wrapping up. Now we're flying blind.

Yeah. Wow. As it should be. Stunning. Great song. Okay. It really is. It really.

It's a good song. It's great. So all three of us had this. Craig, if you want, go for it. Sell High and Clyde Edwards Allaire. She's running. Man. We're running this back from last week because once again,

he somehow eked out a decent performance on barely getting the football. He had seven rushes for zero yards in a touchdown. Last week, Clyde Edward Hilaire, out of all running backs. He's 41st in carries. He's, and this is among running back. Jesus. 62nd in snaps,

33rd in routes, 18th in total yards. And he's fourth in points per game. Yeah. 62nd in snaps, but fourth in points per game's pretty insane. It is wild. He is a castle built out of paper mache.

Sell him right now. He plays less snaps than his teammate, Jerich McKinnon. He's also, he's the only running back of the top 30. running backs in fantasy who has caught every single one of his targets. He's 12 for 12 on target.

So here's the problem. This is obvious, right? This makes a ton of sense. The problem is you go to trade for him and the person's like, oh, okay, let me look at Clyde. And they click to see seven carries zero yards. That's obviously very concerned. It is tough. They need to just look at the point scored, not the stat lines.

Send them a link to the list of like the top running backs in fantasy. That's all they need to see. Don't look at this other stuff. Look at this. It's curb appeal. That's what we're looking for. It's got a great view this house does. Don't worry about what's inside the house.

Just figure out how to pull the wool over their eyes, you know? High Fitz, you look perplexed. I'm trying to think of like what ride receiver you would get back for Clyde that you're like, this is good. This is the person. Like, DJ Moore. Mike Williams? Mike Williams?

Mike Williams is pretty good. Okay. Craig, did you have Mike Williams on your list? I did. I had him as a by low. You think you could get Mike Williams for Clyde, though? You think? I mean, Clay.

I clapped the RB4, man. After three weeks. I mean, considering that Herbert's hurt and Richon Slater's, like, you know, their left tackles out for this season. Yeah, that sucks. Maybe, yeah, maybe someone would be willing to trade, like get off the Mike Williams train since Herbert's all banged up. But I think that's a good call.

Somebody kind of in that range. Wow. This is incredible. I wonder if everyone listening is, like, really disappointed with us that we were lying. It wasn't a lie. We just couldn't hear it. It's like every two minutes I just get this uplifting music in my ear. It makes me so happy.

Also, now, though, I feel this. ang so when we're kind of like winding down in our conversation and it hasn't played yet. I used to know how much time we had left now I don't. All right. This next one, D.K. and Craig, you both had this. D.K., why don't you take this? Baila on Trelon Burks, the Titans wide receiver. I thought this is excellent.

I actually had this one, too. This was the other three of us. So once again, rookie receivers are just taking the league by Storm pretty much. Drake Lennon leads his team in receiving. Chris Olavé leads his team in receiving. Several other guys are already like full-time starters. Traillen Berks has worked his way into being a full-time starter for this team.

His route participation is up to 96% from last week. That started out really low. And basically, he's had to more or less work his way into game shape, I guess, based on kind of like all the different reports that we saw or heard in Titans Training Camp. You know, there was indications, it seemed, that Mike Vrable just absolutely fucking hated this guy

because he was like, I keep using like the GIF like, the wrong kid died. You guys haven't seen dude. the Dewey Cox story, walk hard, but basically Dewey kills his brother and then his dad

just says the wrong kid died for the rest of the movie. Oh, okay, good. I'm glad you out of the context. Super, super,

super, he cuts him in half. He cuts him in half, and it's a real bad case of being cut in half and his brother dies. And so basically that's I bet it's funnier in the movie.

Yeah, I would think so. The way I explained it was maybe not like the best delivery. But A.J. Brown, the wrong kid died. AJ Brown was,

you know, the apple of Mike Bray, his eye, Trayland Berks, not so much, doesn't like him, doesn't practice enough for Mike variables, you know, wants and needs, but it seems as though that's in the past because now Trailerks is basically a full-time starter for the team and the production is going to come. Yards per route run, yards per and targets per route run are both really, really strong for Trailerks. Like he's getting targets, he's getting looks. The production is coming. That's the bottom line. Yeah, he ran a route on every single one of Tannenhill's passes last week and like,

that's all you need to know. He ran almost as many routes. last week as he did the first two weeks combined. I think that the key here is this. He's, again, one catch for 13 yards last week. The person who has Trail on Berks is probably considering, like, cutting him. Totally. And even if they love him and, like,

would never do that because he's like a good, whatever, the person who has him fundamentally has probably lost some faith that he'll contribute. And so this is kind of what we're talking about where I wouldn't give up anything of value because you could probably give up a bench play. Just got Trail and Berks. Tom, Tom, baby.

It's great song. All right. Next one. Craig. Yeah. You have sell high on Steelers running back to Najee Harris. I do. Sadly, I do. Right now, he's got a great sticker value because he's put up double-digit points in every game this year, which matters.

Nine points is very different than 10 points visually to somebody you are trying to trade with. He's over 10 points every game this year. The differences between last year and this year with Najee are kind of stark. Last year, he played over 80% of snaps. This year, he's only playing 69. Last year, the backup was Benny Snell, who played less than 10% of snaps. This year, the backup, rookie Jalen Warren, has played almost 30% of snaps. Looks good, too.

Yeah, like, Naji's not catching as many passes. He's staying in to block more because Trubisky needs help and doesn't get rid of the ball as quickly as Ben Rathesberger used to. And, you know, if you really look at Naji Harris' total touches per game, you know, how many targets he's seeing, how many snaps he's playing, he's really no different than like a Josh Jacobs than an A.J. Dillon right now, which is a massive bummer, but it's not going to get any easier. So my recommendation is that try and sell him now, but if you can't, and you can't get good

value. It's okay, hold on, because they're playing the Jets this week. And maybe he can have one more good game. But then after that, I said this on the last pod, but I'm going to read through it again. This is who the Steelers are playing for the next seven weeks after they play the Jets. The bills, the bucks, in order, the dolphins, the Eagles, the Saints, and then the Bengals. That is the next seven weeks for the Steelers. It's not going to get any easier if it's Pickett or Chubisky playing quarterback. So if you can get anything good right now, do it, but hold one more week, sell him for a receiver. You know, Mike Williams, I mentioned

Devante Adams, if you could somehow. You could not get Devante Adams from Nachie Harris right now. Maybe not. I mean, he's had two bad weeks in a row, but people like that, you know, maybe you get Mike Williams, maybe Debo Samuel's kind of the same thing. He's putting up like 10 points a game if you could swap those, something like that.

Haifitz, do you not see wild trades in your leagues? Like, I feel like, I see plenty of weird trades that I'm like, what? Like, you know, in plenty of my leagues. I think you got to shoot your shot. you got at least try. Yeah, you do have to try. And like, that is that they always ask.

I think that... I have a hypothetical real quick. Okay. I was asked this on the Fantasy Pros pod today. Would you rather have James Robinson or Naji the rest of the year? Tom Tom just saves us from having to answer the question. I mean, I mean...

Saved by the bell. I would... Man, it's a bummer. Isn't it close? Isn't it kind of close? The crazy thing is you have to think about it, which is insane. Because the problem is,

is Jacksonville is, like, objectively a better offense. they're going to be in a much better game script most of the time. That's like the big surprise this year is that they might actually be leading for a lot of games. I think that James Robinson, while I like him a lot, probably like the last couple weeks have probably been about as good as he'll do this season. But it does feel like Mike Tomlin might be stubborn enough to just not play Kenny Pickett, right, and that they just stick with Chubisky. And as long as they play with Chubisky, it's kind of like really tough to see Noggi doing well.

Realistic, oh, man, you probably have to take Nogh. I kind of feel like Travis E.T.D. will play more as the season. goes on. But yeah, it's crazy. I don't know. It's tough. Yeah. All right. Next one here. You two both have this. I put this fifth. If I'm being honest, I already regret putting it fifth, and I kind of need you two to convince me that it should be fifth. Like, you don't agree with it? I know you're going to say. It's you two both have bylaw and Cadarious Tony. Yeah, baby. Finally come. It's not going to cost you very. Here's the key thing. It won't cost you that much. I think that's true.

They're probably debating cutting him, which is the only reason I put it fifth, which was I think that this is with the caveat that like someone that you might cut could just get you Cadarious Tony. Other than that, no. Well, here's, here was my reasoning is basically

the Giants are going to have no fucking choice but to play this guy. Yes. Because all their other receivers are getting hurt or whatever, not very good. Like right now, their leading receivers,

I guess, are David Sills the fifth. Who is fantastic? by the way. I'll have you know. I don't know if I'd go that far. Did you see him fall down and have the game end basically on a pick? Yeah, he was responsible for that interception. He was just trying to run a slant route and fell down. He has been excellent. Don't, don't, do not dare.

What's going on with you in Sills? He's been wonderful otherwise. He's great. He's great. Finns loves Sills. He's just like running a bunch of routes not doing anything with him. It's just like empty calories. You have Ritchie James and David Sills the 5th and Sterling Shepard just tore his ACL on one of the most bizarre non-contest. I've never seen anything.

in sports like Sterling Sheppertary. He didn't even change directions. He wasn't sprinting. He was jogging. He was slowing down. Slowing down. And exactly you said, D.K. Usually ACL, a lot of times the non-contacts are based on an unexpected forcing of a change of direction.

Like you're trying to go somewhere and then a player comes and then you have to change a direction suddenly. And that's what it happened. Literally nobody there. I've never seen anything like that. And then Kenny Golade is in the doghouse. He dropped a crucial pass this week. Kenny Gallaudy out here literally saying I can't believe I'm not playing

I need to be the starter gets the biggest pass at the biggest moment of the game just goes through his hands I kind of honestly feel I'm like starting to feel bad for Goliday I know how much money he's making I get it it still sucks though

it's like man what happened he was so good for a couple years with the Lions I see your point though where Tony is going to have to play because Sterling Shepard going down he now has to step up Sterling Shepard has was 13th in the NFL

in target share, a. The percentage of a quarterback's passes that go to a certain player. 13th.

He was seeing 29% of Daniel Jones's targets. Like, there is a lot of passes to go around.

And Tony and Wondale, Debal said that they're getting closer to game action. So if one or either

of them can play, like, I think you're right. Yeah, I said this on a different pod too, but it's like, try not to lose

sight of the big picture of the long term. During a season, every week can seem like monumental. Oh, my God. You know, this, that,

or the other thing happened, we have to change our complete outlooks for what's going to happen the rest of the season. It's like, keep the long view, remember that a lot of times, not every time, but a lot of time, talent wins out. Tony is very clearly, very talented. I will wait. I will wait. He just already has a hamstring injury,

is the problem. I will hold on to Cadarius, Tony, every single game of this season. I don't care. I'm never dropping him. Diamond hands. Just give up some, don't give up that much for him. He's already hurt. Okay. Next one, Craig and I both had this. Craig, you can say your piece. or whatever.

I, I, spy low on Tom Brady. He's the, he's the quarterback 28 right now. He's, he's the 28th highest scoring quarterback

in fantasy. I mean, this, this is like half wishful thinking as somebody who drafted him for the first time ever this year,

and half common sense. Like, the bucks, first of all, they've played three top 10 defenses to start the year. They've had maybe

the worst receiving core of Brady's career in the last week. They're not throwing as much. He's, he's averaging eight less passes per game than he was last year.

And look, Mike Evans is going to be back. Julio Jones is expected to play this week. Godwin, hopefully back in a few weeks or so. And the schedule is just like really opening up. They're playing the Chiefs this week. It's just Brady's not washed as much. I know I say it all the time. I don't think he's washed. He looks good still. He just has literally nobody to throw to. Brady has, he has six more points than Cooper Rush. That's fucking crazy. I would say that when you try trade from him. I think to your point, the thing with Brady, look, half the people have Brady probably just love Brady. We never get rid of him. but you have to check because the person has Brady in your league

is absolutely going to be open to trading him because they're at the very least what they're, that's really what we're talking about too with Bilos is like at the end of the day when you ask in a text, are you up in a trading this person? Maybe they don't tell you, but they tell themselves like, yeah, I would, I, I, maybe I should get rid of this guy. Brady, everyone's going to think about it because he's sick.

At least they're thinking about not playing him. Craig, I think, had a really crucial point. These might be the best three defenses, the Bucks play all year, is, you know, the Cowboys, the Packers, the Saints. Like, those are good defenses. And it just came at this perfect time with the confluence of the offensive line injuries,

the receiver injuries, Evans being out. And so here's the thing. I don't know if all those things are going to get fixed. Like, their interior offensive line might just stay hurt. Their receivers might just stay banged up. But, like, it has to probably get better than just relying on, like, hamstring pull Russell Gage to gut through it plus Prashad Paraman.

So I think that you're right, Craig. And the other thing is the bucks can't run the ball. They have to throw it. And that's the other key is like as long as they continue to not really have that power running game, not run at the goal line. Brady's going to have the quick game. Like that Brady's going to be thrown 40 times a week. I feel like, so I already said this, I think on the pod, but like, man, this is such a clear indication to me of how important receivers are in the NFL. Like if having a bunch of keystone cops at receiver for the Buccaneers with Tom Brady, you know, at quarterback, like if they can't really run their offense the way they want to, that to me just tells you how important these receivers.

are and it kind of validates why the NFL went out and went absolutely just nuts for receivers this offseason in terms of like receiver contracts and trades and all that stuff. We've seen the impact that receivers are making on the dolphins. We're seeing the impact that's making on Jalen Hertz. Receivers are important. Big picture. I mean, it's kind of saying teams are trying to either pay their quarterback to be a difference maker or your receiver to be a difference maker.

I guess really teams are really trying to find one or two. guys who are like, who's the person that makes everyone else's job easier? What teams have found that when you pay the force multiplier? Force multiplier, yeah. The person who just is making everyone, yeah, force multiplier is a good word for it. The teams that are paying running backs to do that,

it's not going well, right? Like the Panthers paying McCaffrey, like the Titans playing Henry, like Cowboys paid Zik, none of that's going well. Teams that paying quarterbacks, Mahomes is getting paid, Josh Allen getting paid, Ravens are someone's going to pay Lamar. Like, that's obviously working. And then the teams that don't have to do that, like the dolphins,

they don't know if they want to pay too so the trade pay for Tyreek. We'll see about Raiders at Devante, but he seems to be playing well. It's very clear that the teams that don't have the force multiplayer quarterback are seeking the force multiplier receiver. Yeah, I was talking to Jeff Chow actually

about Devonte Smith and how his catch radius is like the size of a freaking, I don't even know what, like it's massive. And just the difference between that and like Jalen Rager, where it was just like, unless you actually just hit him directly in the hands, like he's not going to catch a ball.

Like that kind of difference is like nuanced and subtle, but not really that subtle because it's super important. You saw what Devante Smith did this afternoon or this weekend. You saw what guys like T. Higgins can do in terms of just like taking a pass that's absolutely no business being like completed and like making that play. Anyway, so I know this is a huge tangent, but it's just I think it's so crucial to have guys. It's such a cliche, but it's so crucial. Have a guy will make a play.

stop. Scotty Miller is not that guy. I think about that with, like speaking of Jalen Hertz, I think about Carson Wentz too. I don't think Carson Wentz is good by any means. I don't think the Washington offense is good.

But even Wentz, obviously, mildly more success with Washington thus far than he had in Indianapolis passing-wise. And you think about the difference of him having like, you know, the Dotson, they go up and get a guy, I guess a little bit like Pittman to a degree.

But then Curtis Samuel, who's like a guy you can get the ball quickly in space, you know, the receiver you can manufacture, touches for a near the line of scrimmage, which is what in Indianapolis Oh my God, Ohio State and forgetting his name

because he's so irrelevant all the time. Paris Campbell out. Paris Campbell, who was supposed to be like Curtis Samuel, but he's terrible. And yeah, it's like, you know, if you're not that accurate, you need guys who can help you.

So it all gets. It tilts the scales when you have guys like that for like quarterbacks who kind of are middling. And so 50-50 balls become more like 70-30 balls when you have the right receiver.

Well, it's like that old saying, I forget the Brett Farv, I forget the saying, but just basically, it's a very, it's a coaching thing. It's probably a, wall or someone.

But the door test of like, every NFL quarterback needs to be able to throw a football through a doorway from like 30 yards away. And like the good ones can hit the door knob. Yeah. And the elite, there's two or three that could hit the key. Like you need to be able to hit the keyhole. Like Drew Breeze, Tom Brady,

they can hit the keyhole on the on the door from 30 yards away. And for the people who cannot do that, helps to be able to catch the ball. All right. next one here call my own number. I have Bilo on Dolphins running back Raheim Mostert. Interesting. So first of all, I always get the name wrong.

It is Mostert. Mostert? No, Hifitz always says Mastard. It's Mostert. Mostert. Okay. Must start. Sorry.

I apologize to the people listening who've heard this a thousand times and I can never get it right. Anyway, just starting running back, no one knows it yet. I think a key part of Bilo that sometimes, and we're guilty of it too, it's really annoying. Sometimes it's like, by a loan on Joe Mixon. And then you ask the guy in your league. And it's like, well, no, they don't want to trade Joe Mixon. Like, here's the reality of fantasy football.

No one wants to trade their starters, like ever. That's most people. It's very difficult to even find three people who actually want to give away a starter. It's really actually way easier to find a bench player that is probably going to be starter worthy or already is and no one knows it yet. Rhea Oster is starting running with their dolphins. He literally got the majority of snaps last week. But it doesn't look like it because the bills only ran 39 freaking plays. So he had what, like eight carries last week.

It looked ugly, whatever they're playing the Bill's defense. But he is the starter. The Dolphin schedule gets so much easier. I mean, think about who the Dolphins have played, you know, Pat's defense week one. And then, you know, Bill's last week. They played the Ravens, like, you know, generally speaking, above average defense is really good. As the Dolphins offense, like, you know, they play more, they're running more.

Rheemostert's going to get more work. But like the person has Rihamoster probably has no loyalty to him. You know what I mean? like he hasn't had any really noteworthy fantasy performances. So I feel like he's extremely acquireable. And yet I kind of think like a couple weeks from now, he's like totally could be your flex every week that he's healthy. And it'd be fine.

And you're just kind of picking up. It's not like some like crazy league winning move. It's just he's going to probably get like 10 or 11 points every week the rest of the season. You just get him for like free. Yeah, I like that. It's tough because, you know, it's such a rotation with Chase Edmonds. I'm looking at some of the like underlying usage numbers. And it's like, you know, Edmonds is getting all the passing stuff.

And he's also getting more of the goal to go stuff. So I don't know. Like it's, this one's tough to me because I think that Moser has a pretty low floor. But he's also like potentially a high ceiling in terms of like being a part of this offense. he's really fucking explosive. Like he's one of the most explosive running backs in the NFL if he gets a little bit of space. So I don't know how to feel about this one of the role.

I agree with you. He's not like some league winning thing. That's why I have him low down on this list. This is not like, oh my God, I'll just put him as my top two. If he's your second running back, that's bad. What I'm saying is if you have injuries, if you have Deontje Swift, who's probably not going to play the next two weeks plus, you know, a buy after that. Or if you have, you know, Kamer and you're worried him but his ribs.

Like if you injuries at the running back position, if you had a lot of Mitchell and you kind of just need a stop gap. You need to fill a spot. I think you should check if you can get Rehomo for like nothing because again, the person who has him, he had one point last week. He had under four points in week one. My point is, I actually think that

the person who has him would give him away as a throw in and a different deal. Like he does not have value to the person who has him. He's a great throwing. Yeah, he's a great throwing. It's one of those trades where like if you tried to just trade for him specifically, they'd be like, wait, why do you want him? Maybe I like him now. What don't I know?

Yeah. Yeah, Tom Sawyer. It's the same thing with a lot of these guys. You know what? I'll just do another one I'm doing back to back. I'm just going to back to back. All right. Similar vibes on Brandon Cooks for the Texans.

And I think of these the same way, which is. Clan's Burke. We haven't talked about it once this year. Borderline starting for people. And again, it's infinitely easier to trade for someone on someone's bench that's been fine. Brandon Cook's is 64th in fantasy points among wide receivers, but he's 14th in targets.

So he's literally 50 spots higher in tariff. targets than fantasy points. I just think they're going to meet in the middle somewhere. Like he'll go up. Texans offense has been awful. I kind of think it can't be worse than it's been. Like the passing offense, Davis Mills does not look good.

I'm not saying it's going to be sexy. I'm saying it's the rare instance where the person as Brandon Cooks probably doesn't care that much. We talk about like the stars, don't want to scare their stars. The IKEA effect where it's like if you have a player, like people love their IKEA furniture because they made it. You find some sleeper and they have one good week.

You feel smart and justified. Like I got to hold on to this guy forever. The way Craig like had Kadaris Tony one week last year and we'll never let him go. Like, no one has that with Brandon Cooks. No one's attached. You can, they're very easily removed from the situation. So I think that's part of it.

And it's the same thing as Rahim Moster. It's not some league winning thing. It's not some huge splashy move. It's like, you ask about their best receivers. Hey, can I have your March Jason? They're like, no. And they're like, oh, could I have like Mike Evans? And they're like, no.

It's like, oh, fine. What about like, I don't know. Brandon Cook's. And you're like, oh, fine. And like, I'll take David and Jok. It's like, cool. Yeah. Great.

I hate how that actually does work sometimes. You got to start high and then meet the middle. Yeah, Cooks has a 28% target percentage, which is extremely high. That's like top 10 in the league. And again, it's just, it's another guy that to be part of it, it's so much more complicated of this,

but sometimes when you're making a trade, it really just does come down to when the person's giving up looks at their thing and they're like 11.7.3. Oh, yeah, let me get out. Who cares? You know what I mean? Like, even Joe Mixon, who he's had of as a by-low,

When the person going to trade him away looks, they see 18 points week one, 10, and 5. And you're hoping they see the 5 last week. What they see is the 18 in week 1. And they're terrified, what if he does that again? The players who don't have any of that yet are just easier to get. So would you give up Clyde Edwards-Hillair for Brandon Cooks? I think that's a really good example of like depending,

it depends on a lot in your team, et cetera, et cetera. That's probably one where you can try to just get another person, right? depends on the name value and how people feel like Clyde for Cooks and Mostert. Yeah, Clyde for Cooks and Moster. That would be executing our entire show to absolute perfection.

That's a good example of like that sounds really boring but it's kind of the point. And week like eight, you could look like a genius. Yeah, exactly. That's a really good example actually. I would definitely,

I would do that. All right. Okay. Next one here. I also want to be convinced on this D.K. And I'm curious. I'm curious to your argument here. You have Bilo and Debo Samuel.

Yeah, here's the deal. I am not pretending that Devo Samuel is going to have the same season he had last year. I think that's kind of out of the picture. He was always going to regress. He was just way too efficient. It was a massive, massive outlier. I think he's a really good player. But to expect him to have, like, he averaged 10 yards after the catch last year.

Like, he scored eight rushing touchdowns, you know, on whatever it was, how many of amount of carries. It wasn't enough. He had 59 rushes and he scored eight touchdowns. Like, he's not going to hit those numbers this year. However, he's on pace to touch the ball 164 times last year. He touched it 136 times last year. He's going to out-touch himself.

That sounds weird. He's going to have more touches this year. That came out weird. He's going to just touch the hell out of himself. He's going to have, he's on pace for more touches this year. I will never think about us using the term touches ever. God, I just derailed this. I was really on a roll there, I think.

No, the bottom line is his target rate is higher this year than it was last year. He's going to have more touches this year than last year. It's about volume. And with the 49ers having more injury situation, more injury issues at running back, like, they're going to use them as a running back. He's going to get like red zone stuff, I think. And so, like, I don't know, I still think he has way more value than he's shown after three weeks. He's the five receiver 31 after three weeks. I don't disagree with anything you said.

I just don't think that he's a bylaw. Like, I don't think anyone who is Debo Samuel is, like, disappointed enough to trade him. Like, you'd have to give up something spectacular. Like, Debo's the kind of guy that you're like, oh, he hasn't been excellent. I'll pluck him from their starting lineup. And you text someone and they're like, you want Debo and you don't want to give me like a freak, like a starting, like a running back or something. Like, I don't think anyone's like upset with Debo this far.

I feel like every one of these is like you're trying to cycle analyze everybody in the world. Like, you only need one person who's sick of Debo and thinks he's not very good anymore. I think you're both right. I think D.K. is correct to assume that, like, Debo's going to get better and he's been middling. But I also lean with high fits where, like, he hasn't been that bad. It's kind of like Najee Harris. Like, he's scored double-digit points every single week. And people who drafts him this year are probably people who either had him last year or know how good he is. And I think it's still a little early for them to be ready to ship, Debo. I think people are generally optimistic. I think it, I mean, I feel like it's almost a fact.

people are generally speaking more forgiving of their own players than others. And I think people are like, well, you know, the week one. I didn't do any polls on the confidence people have in Depot. I would just say he's going to do way better than he has done for three weeks. Well, you know what's weird? Hive is I almost think it's the opposite. I think people are less confident about their players on any given week when they're on their own team. But then when the prospect of giving them up comes up, they are completely closed off to it.

Like, I have no faith in my players when they're on my team, but the second somebody wants them, I no longer want to get rid of them. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Last one here, speaking to which, D.K., you have sell high and Cordarral Patterson. Yeah, this one to me is just, I almost put this one, D.K. Okay, that makes me feel better. Obviously, like, every time you sell high, it's a little bit ballsy because there's a chance that they're just fucking outliers and they're ridiculously good through that the whole year.

Like, that's why selling high is kind of hard sometimes. but he is currently the running back five and half BPR. Like, to me, this is his peak. This is a team that's probably going to be playing from behind the majority of the time the season. You know, in trailing scripts, he's not going to get quite as many carries. Atlanta has the third hardest strength of schedule going forward for running backs, according to fantasy pros.

I saw this today. And then the other thing is like, Patterson's just not catching passes in this offense. Like, again, this is a, what are you doing, Arthur Smith type of question? Like, why are you turning him into a pure running back? The value he brings is because he's so good at past catching. Like, God, it annoys the shit on me. So basically, yeah, that's my idea is he's surviving on volume. He has 49 rushes this year, which is top 10 in the NFL.

He's 31 or 32 or whatever he is. He's over 30. Like, do we think he's going to hold up for a full season being a top 10 guy in terms of carries? And also, is he going to continue to get that many carries? Because I think they're going to be playing from behind more than you think. the reason why I like this is because he's the running back 5 right now and DK was like this is his peak

and I think people would look back at last year and be like well he was the running back 9 last year like he's just doing it again but he wasn't really he just played every game last year which is rare for a running back in points per game he was actually the 19th best running back last year he only averaged 13 points a game and the biggest difference is he caught 52 balls

last year and that type of like production is not happening this year so my fear is that he has four catches in three games so it's like if this also Damien Williams their running back is going to be coming back. They have that rookie Tyler L.Gere. I just think that there's a high likelihood that he's not going to be just seeing the volume

he's seeing and the game script he's seeing right now. So who would you give him up for? Cordell Patterson or like a Mari Cooper. That's a good question. Man, I don't know. Like I would, like, I'm just looking at other running backs. Like say I would trade like Jamal Williams maybe or... I would give him up for Christian Kirk.

Christian Kirk is a good one. it's good to switch positions when doing it. Yes. Juju. I don't know. That's close. But like,

I thought what you said earlier, like a Mari Cooper kind of makes sense. DK Metcalf. What about like a Marquis Brown or something like that? Yeah. I don't know.

Hard to get somebody to deal Markees Brown after he had 14 catches for 140 yards. I don't think anyone's trading Marquis Brown once again, psychoanalyzing the entire world. I'm just, I'm just being honest.

Like, I'm not psycho analyzing. It's like generally speak. No, I don't. I know. You are making it correct. Like, your points are valid. I'm just saying, like, people make weird decisions, dude, in fantasy. I see weird trades all the time.

Like, could you trade Cordell Patterson for Michael Pittman? I feel like absolutely not. You don't like people do that? You can try anything. I, you know, sure. I mean, hyphen, someone might be trying to sell high on Marquis Brown because he just had 17 targets. Well, I'm surprised you're gung-ho that they could trade him for, this random person out here who's in our example,

would trade Cordill-Row Patterson for Christian Kirk. You think Christian Kirk is more likely to be shipped than Michael Pittman? Well, I mean, probably. I mean, depending where, I mean, you know, someone could have drafted Christian Kirk like 80th overall. Someone drafted Michael Pittman like 30th overall. Like generally speaking. Yeah, anchoring.

You're going to cut bait on someone who you took 30th overall. Yeah, but you want to talk about anchoring. Christian Kirk's the seventh receiver in fantasy right now. I don't know if anyone. I know. Patterson's fifth. It's like the same thing. They were going similar places in the draft. I guess.

And they have a similar amount of points. I don't think we need to like, I just, my feeling is we don't need to like figure out if something is realistic. These things are all, like everyone makes weird trades in fantasy football. You don't think we should go for it. Hypothetically argue every single possibility in a trade. Just straw man everything. Just fucking, just like doing the Dr. Strange thing. It's like there's one billion possibilities in the world.

Yeah, I don't know. Shouldn't straw in everything. I just think when you ask about a player, hey, can I? trade for this guy that just had 20 points. It's like the worst time to do it. Isn't that literally Christian Kirk? It's also like maybe someone's trying to sell high. Like maybe they're doing the opposite of what you're doing.

Maybe they're playing checkers and you're playing chess. Maybe you're maybe we're playing checkers. Dude, there's a there's a big thing happening in chess right now. Oh my God. Yeah. Wait. Okay. I don't know enough about chess to sound even remotely like informed on this.

All I know is it was interesting. I was reading about it yesterday. the big Grandmaster guy. Wait, can we do the ad and come back to this? Because this is funny. All right. Sure. Tackle millions and prizes all football season long in Fendil fantasy contest.

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And then that one's like, you know. just to walk in the park. I like that analogy. That's good. All right, do you want to do more football and hit some honorable mentions you guys sent me for Bilos? Do you want to get in the chest cheating thing?

I'm just reading up about this chest thing. It's fascinating, I tell you. So Magnus Carlson, who is... She just plowed right into the chest stuff. Yeah, I'm not even waiting. Was it rhetorical? Do I need to check with you guys? Well, no, he said, did you even hear him?

He was like, should we get to the honorable mentions after power or should we go into the chest stuff? And you were like, this chest stuff is crazy. Okay. You guys, it's your call. No, let's go chess. Let's go chess. All right.

So the caveat here is I don't know anything about chess other than I did watch that movie about Magnus Carlson, which is very fascinating. Anyways, he's like the world champion, whatever. And then he accused this other guy, Hans Neiman, of cheating. And the most fascinating thing about it, well, I mean, at least to me, is the ways in which this Nielsen guy is potentially cheating. No, no, no, no, not Nielsen. I don't think Nielsen's the one who cheated, but yes, I agree with it. No, no, no, I said, I met Neman. Magnus Carlson is accusing Hans Neman of cheating. American teenager.

The mechanisms of the story. So there's two ideas. Vibrations of electronic shoe inserts or the more salacious, remote-controlled anal beads. Yeah. I don't know how they're like telling him exactly. Maybe it's like Morse code or something like that. Anyway, it's very fascinating because apparently several, like, very high-level chess people have accused this guy, Neiman, of cheating. Because he's admitted to cheating in the past a couple different times. And so they're like, you know, Tiger doesn't change his spots kind of deal. And he basically hasn't had like, I'm saying this in the Atlantic. His lackluster chess analysis and post-game interviews, people are like, this guy doesn't know what he's fucking talking about, basically.

That guy doesn't know ball. I think it's very fascinating. Watch the tape. Can I admit so on you guys? Yeah. This is how I win all the trivia. No control butt plug. I can see it.

Our butt plugs the future of cheating. Is every baseball player just going to have a butt plug in their butt? And people are going to be buzzing which pitch is coming into their anus. Oh, my God. Also, this guy Neiman has admitted to cheating when he was 12. He's only 19, by the way, this dude, Hans Neiman. Is he real? Oh, because I saw that he admitted to cheating when he was also 16.

And I'm like, oh, this forever ago. He's 19? Yeah, he's 19. So it's like, that's alarming. He admitted to cheating at the ages of 12 and 16 in an interview. Is it cheating if you have the butt plug in? I would think so. Yeah, I guess it is.

You're not trying if you're not cheating, right? I don't know. I think this is just a funny, fascinating story. But it's also, like, interesting from a point of view that you can, like, use computers to, like, model out potential strategies for chess. I don't know. That's the interesting part. It's not that we've reached the point of human history

where we have remote control butt plugs in the first place. I think it's anal beads, not butt plugs. I mean, there's a nuance difference there. Beads? Beads, not plugs. I feel like Steve Carell in the 40-year-old version, it's like a bag of sand. Have you ever grabbed a boob?

It's like a bag of sand. Yeah, like I totally know what the difference is. I'm totally aware of what that is. Do you think when this Neiman guy was talking, to his, you know, cheating consultant. He was like, so there's two options here. We could do the shoe thing, but they might catch you. You know, there's a metal detector, like, who knows?

Are they doing cavity searches at these chess tournaments? Option two. You could shove an anal beat up your ass, and that might work. Do you think he's like, God damn it? That's the only other option? There's two options. Those are the only two. He's like a drug mule.

Oh, my God. Did you want to do a few? Yeah, there's a fantasy punishment in here somewhere. Honorable mentions, D.K., you mentioned selling high on Garrett Wilson for the Jets receiver, Curtis Samuel for Washington, and then you also mentioned Greg Dorch for the Cardinals. I'm just going to cross off Greg Dorch. I got news for you, D.K. No one's fucking trading for Greg D.R.

You're going to fucking psychoanalyze all the 200 million people playing fantasy. None of them will trade for Greg D. Okay, Craig, please back me up here. I think you're giving people too little credit here, D.K. Like, people know what's going on, do they? If you are the person setting out trade requests, are like, hey, you want Greg Dorch? Dorched.

Maybe they heard me say dorched. Yeah, maybe. It's a pretty cool name. But Curtis Samuel and Garrett Wilson are more interesting. Garrett Wilson's the balls you one. I don't know if I really. But like, who would you trade? That's what I was wondering was, okay, it's cool.

Sell high for Garrett Wilson. What does that mean, though? Like, who are you trying to get for Garrett Wilson that you're like, ah, I've earned a profit? I don't know. It just depends because now I'm so worried about how people won't do anything because they're too smart and I'm not going to send out it. It's Greg Dorch, man.

Am I really being like unreasonable here? No one has heard of Greg Dorch, man. Dorched. I would agree with Hypoet. It's like a restaurant that you look up and it has no Google reviews, nothing on Yelp, but it's like, I'm going to take this. Like you could trade Greg Dorch for like, trade him for anything because he's going to get benched.

Yeah. I don't think someone with like. I don't think someone with like Evan Ingram or something. Yeah. Okay. Sure. I guess you could get Evan Ingram for Greg Dorch. I concede there.

Stop fucking psychoanalyzing everyone that plays fantasy. It's called context. That's all. No. Maybe like could you trade Greg Dorch for like Michael Carter? Yeah. Maybe. Something like that.

Something like that. Yeah. If you need like a third or fourth running back on your team, maybe. There you go. I like it. If anyone is able to trade away, Greg Dorch, please email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. Also, I feel like people with Greg Dorch aren't trading him because they, like, added him week one, and he's been great for them.

And they're like, why the fuck? I'm just going to ride this ride until it falls off the tracks. Psycho-analizing him, yeah. All right. I hate trade talk. I don't know if that was clear. I don't know if that's been clear this entire show. I hate talking about theoretical trades.

Well, thank God. This segment's over. My God. Curtis Samuel, I think, is a good one because I'm still convinced he's fools gold and a bag of bones, ready to break down. So I actually like trying to ship. Because I think Dotson and I think McClure are better players and more reliable players. So, and three receivers aren't going to last in Washington. And I would pick Curtis Samuel as the one to drop off.

There we go. I will say that those three guys are the ones who play. If you can get anything to Curtis Samuel, sure. Honestly, you know you could get for Curtis Samuel, I bet. Greg Dorch. Oh, easy. You could probably get Greg George for you. Yeah.

What about this? If you have Curtis Samuel, maybe trade him for like, let me know what you think. Breece Hall. There we go. Not bad. Breast Hall's kind of on, it's on the up and up. See, that makes more sense to me because we're going to strom. We just strom in everyone until it works.

Yeah. All right. By the way, and I want to say this as a caveat, don't trade any of your good players for shitty players and then get mad at us when you did that. Trade these guys for very good players. Players that you think and know are good based on listening to us, based on your gut, based on statistical research, you know? Don't just be like, this guy's playing like shit. That means he's going to get better.

I'm going to trade for him. That's not the case. All right, so I won't trade for DJ more. Good. Good to know. Fantasy court. All right. All right. A league of 15 years is being torn asunder.

Asunder. Good word. Who's this from? It's from Rowan. Rowan. Rowan. Prior to the season, we tried to come up with a weekly losers challenge,

but never settled on anything and ultimately the season started. after week one, a member of the league proposed that the weekly loser would be the person who has the lowest score for the week. The loser then needs to watch a random show and provide a synopsis of that episode via PowerPoint presentation. This is generally accepted by everyone without much issue. This is so funny. It is fun. Week one comes and goes and the loser was a good sport and gave a nice presentation on Gilmore Girls' season one episode one.

So does the league choose the show? show? Is that how go? So they, I'm so glad you asked. They sent a list of, I guess they have a list of like 30 episodes that you can choose from. And they sent and then whoever loses can pick one of them. And they sent along the list.

It's love is blind, Japan, the pilot, Cocoa Mellon, season of six episode one. They've got Last Tango, they've got rhythm and flow, specific episodes for each of these. Charmed. They've got Night Rider. Coach Snoop, don't know what that is. I love that these aren't pilots.

It's like, goosebumps, season four, episode four. Just dive right in. Episode two of season 12 of the challenge. Keenan and Kel, episode five. Is it cake? The floor is lava. They just got a lot of great, great Emmy Award winning stuff here. Email contingent.

Moving on to week two, one of the members of the league has taken umbrage to the addition of a loser challenge. He also happens to be a lawyer. And he will not let this rest. It's always the lawyers. It is always the lawyers. Argument flesh. It's like they like arguing or something.

Argument fetch. It's like my cousin Vinnie. He references the following passage from the Lee Constitution. It is the responsibility of all league members to read this Constitution and review the settings and scoring rules before the draft. Wow, really take themselves seriously. But the Constitution continues, no changes may be made after the draft. Oh, geez.

So the lawyer argues that this is a change that was not voted. I would love to hear a judge do that. in the middle of arguments. Oh, geez. Get a load of this guy. What's this guy's deal? You look at the other judge. But did everybody agree on this after the draft, including the lawyer?

Did they verbally agree, tacit agreement? I think it was one of those like this if you're cool with it. And like eight of ten people probably liked it. So the lawyer argues that this change was not voted or agreed upon prior to the season. This should not be subjected to following it. The counter argument is that this is not a setting. It's not a scoring rule. It's just for fun.

And basically everyone else thinks it's funny. And you should be subjected to it too. Yeah. So what do the fantasy court think of this issue? Well, it was voted on, first of all. And it passed, right? But maybe just not unanimously. Yeah, I'd like to know if the lawyer ever acknowledged that this rule was set in place

and if he tacitly agreed to it? What if he had not? I don't think he did. I don't know. I mean, it's not like this, we're asking that much of you. Dude, you have to watch an episode of Is It Cake? Like, come on.

I think that from the lawyer's perspective, if I will lawyer for the lawyer, he's probably thinking, wait a second. There was some group chat with like 100 messages. I didn't read it. And then the draft has already happened. And you're telling me that, because I had the lowest points this week,

I now have to like watch this episode and make you a PowerPoint presentation. Correct. But you know what sucks about this? That's like the myopic view, but if you expand it out, like if he doesn't do it this week, he ruins the entire season

because then next week the guy who gets last is going to go, well, Jason didn't do it, so I don't have to do it. And the whole season is spoiled. Also it's funny. Just do it. It's funny.

Or make it up. Yeah. Do like a fake PowerPoint. That might be more work than just actually spending 25 minutes to watch Jason. There's probably a PowerPoint on an episode, on this specific episode, somewhere on the internet. Just go download it.

Basically, a ruling here is the lawyer is technically right, but spiritually, just really being annoying. Just like, be a part of the friend group, you know? Just do it. It's like, can we stop with the overly litigious people and fantasy? Like, that's just annoying. Everybody's so sensitive now. It's like a, it's just a part of our culture, just being litigious.

Should we pick? Well, I mean, that is the basis of American law, isn't it? Well, just knock it off. Like, this, we're trying to get out of, this isn't the legal system. It's fantasy football. It's not, we're not the Justice Department. The noted perfect Justice Department of America. If you guys had this happen to you, what episode would you pick?

I think probably Love is Blind, Japan. Wait, which one would you watch? Yeah, if you had a pick of this episode list that they sent. Is there the one, what's the one with nudity? I'd do that one. that it's not on the I think that's is it cake oh god

what I thought love is blind is about like it's not there's no nudity in love is blind oh damn what's the one with nudity what are you talking about right now we fucking talked about it like on three and afraid no well dating naked is that something like that

was the show that we were talking about that's a British show that we were talking about what is it correct what's it called I don't know what does it matter if it's British this is not on the blind Japan I know but you were like That one's British. I thought it was, I thought it was the Japanese franchise

of this show where they just look at each other naked. Oh, you confused love is blind, but we were talking about. No, love is blind is completely different. Love is blind is like people going on dates that they can't see each other. Oh, that doesn't sound nearly as funny. Dude, I would do MTV's The Challenge,

season 12 episode two. The Challenge bangs. I also like, someone threw a Knight Rider in there. Yeah. No, I think I know what it is. Well, Keenan and Kell is just incredible. Like the Who Loves Orange Soda. I mean, oh my God.

They should make the guy who gets last this season have to watch like a full show. Like the guy who gets last has to watch all of criminal minds. All of the wire, Craig. You have to bitch watch the wire for the next 80 hours. Oh, you know, this is a nice pivot into a bunch of these emails we got about film nerds getting mad. We got a lot of emails because I referred to the, the Jaws shot or the Dolly Zoom as the Jaws shot in that, you know, it's from Jaws. We got a lot of emails of people being like, it's not from Jaws, Craig. For context, when Kyler Murray was scrambling and Kyler was scrambling they zoomed in on Kyler.

You get, Craig got well actuallyed a lot. I did get well actually. I was like, oh, you know, I don't even know how we started to talk about this like specific camera movement and camera thing. But I called it the Josh shot and people were like, Craig, you know, it actually didn't, Stephen Spielberg didn't invent that. It was invented by Alfred Hitchcock and Vertigo in 1957 or 58 or whatever. First of all, thank you for your email.

We appreciate the listenership. Secondly, I know that. I'm aware. I was a film major. What I should have said, and I was incorrect, if you go back and listen, I was wrong by saying this. What I should have said is that the Dolly Zoom was popularized by the Jaws shot. Jaws was like the first real blockbuster, one of the first blockbusters in American cinema. It made $500 million.

Vertigo in 1958 made $7 million. So not many people knew about this shot. That's why it's now colloquially referred to as the Jaws shot because it was in one of the most famous movies ever made. Was Sean Fentanyse one of the people that emailed you, Craig? He was not. But Sean's a listener, and I bet you he understood what I meant. I love the idea of Craig. I'm like finally figuring out what triggers Craig,

and it's well-actualying him on movies. Passionately responding to each email being like, I know, I'm sorry, I misspoke. It was popularized by Jaws. Like with D.K., it's so easy to trigger him because you're just like, well, someone wouldn't make that trade, and he's like, and it's like me, it's, I mean, I feel like I'm triggerable. But Craig, it's usually unflappable.

it out. Yeah. It's just like you can't even define cinematography. I guess not. Yeah. Sorry, everybody. I now challenge all the people who know film listening to this to just every single

time Craig gets anything wrong. Please just, because since he's so happy for the feedback, email sereniphyrna, email at Gimel. Before we go, real quick, I'll see an email from Julian.

Julian. Julian. Incredible one. We were arguing with the other day about whether Stan Gets or Andrea Abrechelli was more famous. Julian drops the hammer. I hesitate to call Stan Gets a one hit wonder, but if anyone can name a song of his besides, like, you know, the girl from Ipanema,

no idea to pronounce that. The girl from Ipanema. Jeline says, I'd be shocked if anyone could name a Stan gets song beyond that. However, Andrea Bichelli's music has not only been featured in major films, but Will Farrell sang one of his songs at the Catalina Wine Mixer in Stepbrothers. That was an Andrea Bichelli's song. That's hilarious. I'm so disappointed in myself because I swear I knew that, and I completely blanked.

on that, but I knew that it was an Andre Beccelli song that Bacheli sung that Will Ferrell sing. God. That's funny. Look, that's true. That's great. I like that. I would not say that Stan Gets is a one-hit wonder because you can only name one of his songs. Like, he has many recognizable songs.

Yeah, he's not a one-hit wonder. But whatever. I do think it's funny. We got some good responses. Someone put a thread together on Twitter about like all the badass things that André Bacheli has done. Like, he's done some incredible things in his life. so we should recognize that.

I don't have him on the top of my head, but he like sang for the queen and whatnot. I don't know what they are, but congratulations. So he's kind of a one accomplishment wonder. I didn't have time to read all that, but congrats or sorry. I think you have like the best selling classical music album ever. However, don't care about any of that. That was cool that you had the step brother's song. Congrats on all your success.

Catalina a fucking wine mixer. That's all we got. All right. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you, Kai, for doing the timer and just really just giving us this freedom. him to, you know, step out of this lie we were living. Thank you, Lauren. Lauren. Thank you, the kinks. Nice. You once again did have the opportunity to thank Country Appichelli there because she didn't actually think it last week. Hmm. Nah. Oh, is the kinks for the, the chest follow-up?

Yes. Oh, I get it now. It's good. You a lot of subtle meanings in those. No kink shaming here, guys. If you want to play chess with anal beads there, go for it. Like, maybe it makes it more exciting. But just not in regulated competition. cheat. That's all we're saying. Yeah, we're cheat shaming. Also, if you win at chess, be able to explain why you won. That part, I don't think is weird. He's just trolling, probably. No, it's like this guy is, I mean, I assume if he's this, he's Grandmaster's 19, right? I think chess is kind of like tennis. You just have to get it, like, you know, do that for school instead of school from like the time you're 11 and you get really good

at tennis. I assume this guy's been playing chess six hours a day for like 10 years. It's like I don't really want to explain how this works to you. Like you can't your p-brain could not, your pee-brain could not understand what I did in this game. Your simple little mind. I look at it more like, is it stunning that the 19-year-olds has been playing chess eight hours a day for 10 years isn't granted explaining himself on television? No, he can't explain it to other chess masters, grandmasters and whatnot. Oh, really? Like other chess, I thought it was like in an interview there like post-game like, how'd you do the match?

He's like, well, I, you know, it's like football players. It's like, you know, you want them to break down the exit? You want to play good. You want your team to play good. I thought I played pretty good. We got to execute. I was seeing the board real well. Things were moving.

It's just in the zone, you know, if you will. Chess seems to one of those games that's like fun to play and relaxing, but also you have to study it for 18 hours a day to be good. And you also have to shove an anal beat up your ass. That's not fun. I think the Patriots would do the anal beat thing. This cheater guy has a big tick. talk following, I think.

This entire thing is probably a bit he's doing. Let's be a year old. He's 19. This is all a prank. I also, I don't think it's real. This is all for his YouTube channel. You don't think he's actually cheating? Well, we don't know. This has happened or happened. This is going to be like one of those, like, you'll see in his YouTube channel in like six months, like in all caps.

The title of the video will be like, I became a chess grandmaster using anal beads and it'll have like one billion views. I have no idea to go. Okay, goodbye, everyone. It's like how Jake Paul became a really good boxer. Well, he didn't cheat. I don't think.

I mean, he took steroids, I'm sure. But I think he just actually practiced boxing. It's not technically against the rules. Yeah. I believe he just got good at boxing. I also don't think the anal beads would work with the boxing thing. Tells you when to do an uppercat. Tells you one to punch?

Like a rock him, sock him. Yeah, someone's controlling his punches. Oh, my God. That'll happen one day. That'll be something that we'll figure out. Battlebots.