The Ringer NFL Show - Power Ranking Week 2 Overreactions, Fantasy Court, and the Gen Z Spelling Bee
Episode Date: September 17, 2025The guys rank their overreactions from the Week 2 games in this week’s Power Hour. They then rule on a case in Fantasy Court, answer a few emails, and finally bring on producer Kai Grady for the “...Gen Z Spelling Bee” to test DK’s knowledge of Gen Z slang. (00:00) Start of Show (01:38) Sean McVay Tears Plantar Fascia in Win Over Titans (04:12) Power Hour: Overreactions for Week 2 (05:16) We Underreacted to the Micah Parsons Trade (08:38) The Vikings Should Have Kept Sam Darnold (12:54) The Eagles Offense is a Fantasy Sinkhole (16:33) The Chiefs Are Missing the Playoffs (20:57) Mike McDaniel Is Pre-Fired (24:43) We’re Concerned About Ashton Jeanty (29:24) Brandon Aubrey Should be Offensive Player of the Year (38:30) Travis Hunter Was a Siren Song (42:00) Should the Giants Have Released Daniel Jones? (47:25) Ringer Fantasy League Update (48:40) Fantasy Court (57:55) Emails (01:04:53) Gen Z Spelling Bee Check out the 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings: https://fantasyfootball.theringer.com/ Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com The all-new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy football show.
My name is Danny Highton.
I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Whirlbeck.
Today it is power hour.
Every Wednesday we power rank something.
This week, we are power ranking.
Our overreactions after week two.
Last week, we're like everyone's chill.
It's one week underreacting.
Week two, honestly, we've seen everything we need to see, right, TK?
We are done taking a breath.
We are done underreacting.
We're ready to go like full-throated on this, which is also the weirdest expression.
I'm sure.
But we're doing it.
We're going for it.
Pause.
Yeah, big pause.
No, but actually, though, we're going to panic.
So, yeah, we're going to go through, we're going to do our overreactions.
We're serious, though.
These are things that actually we at least kind of actually believe after two weeks.
And we're trying to believe.
Starting to believe.
Yeah, starting to believe.
I think it's probably real.
We're going to go through Fantasy Corps.
We're going to see Gen Z Spelling Bee.
Kai, going to come on to try and DK on some brand new segment.
Can't wait.
Great Bachelor party email.
Okay.
All that coming up after the break.
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after two weeks.
However, first, we actually have to do some breaking news here.
We're recording this Tuesday afternoon.
I don't know if you guys saw,
there's another devastating NFL injury
along with the quarterback bloodbath.
Sean McVeigh tore his planter fashion
and his foot during Rams Titans.
Ah, out.
I don't know if other coaches have had an injury like this
during a game, but they've at least lied about it successfully.
Didn't a planter fashion?
Didn't a coach recently tear their Achilles on the sideline or something?
I don't know.
Harbaugh had like a hard issue during a game last season,
which I don't.
don't think counts. That was scary. Yeah, that's like scary. Uh, but this is, well, I'm one to joke
after I just like hurt my hamstring in a bachelor party, but like it's, it's a little. He was going
to call a timeout. Yeah, he was running to, time out towards planner fascia. Damn, that hurts.
Craig, how do you feel about your brother, Sean McVeigh? I feel bad for my guy. Um, how do you do
you tear your planter fascia just on the sideline hanging out? What happened? How did that happen?
It's athletic. He's running. I don't know, man.
When you get old, Craig, you're going to start to see this.
Just the simple movements you get hurt.
I know. He's probably almost 40. Yeah, he's 39.
Well, it's like pickleball where it's like all these people are getting hurt.
Pickleball is like the perfect way to tear your Achilles because it's just older people moving forward really suddenly.
Yeah, see, pickleball I actually fully understand people getting injured.
Oh, it was the 49ers defensive back coach last year tore his Achilles.
Jeez.
On the sideline.
Craig, this is a, I'm sure the people 40 and over will have.
will relate to this, but there are times where I'm just literally doing nothing, not anything,
sitting.
And you get up and you're like, ow, my foot hurts.
Yeah.
There's something wrong.
I have a broken toe or I have a broken bone in my foot or something.
And then you walk for a while and it goes away.
Yeah.
No, I, like weird pain.
I was at a bar on Saturday night and we were like jumping up and down and dancing,
which I'm already getting maybe a little bit too old to do it.
And the next morning, like a bone in my foot hurt for a day.
Yeah.
The thing that actually happens, which is wild,
is old injuries start to crop back up.
So like I hurt my knee playing basketball way back in the day or I hurt my ankle,
you know, wakeboarding a bunch back in the day.
And those injuries actually don't ever, I don't think fully heal.
They just kind of go away for a while.
And then as you get older, you're like, damn.
It's like like, you know, my old war like wounds are coming back.
It's crazy.
So we're going to, yeah, it's just really funny.
That's, yeah, sorry, Sean.
We're going to power rank now the overreactions for after two weeks that we're actually starting to believe.
DK, age before beauty, since, you know, you have all your old injuries starting to resurface.
We want to make sure we get you in this before you get into.
So, but if you ranked these, did you rank these according to the takes that you believed in the most?
I would describe these as roughly the order that I kind of believe.
I roughly, I agree with slash with a little cheating for thematic narrative.
Okay.
Honestly, he's an artist.
He's an artist.
He's an artist.
I ranked these 80% in the order I believe them.
And then a little bit also things, I just, I just topics in the order we should hit them.
To be honest.
But a soft power ranking.
Yeah.
Okay.
Soft power, baby.
Three minutes on the clock.
Yeah, we're doing three minutes because these are actual texts that we want to talk with them.
So number one, DK, things we actually are starting to believe after two weeks.
To overreactions, we actually kind of believe, number one, hit us.
We actually, the Micah Parsons trade is actually a bigger deal than we made it out.
And we flipped out.
We spent like an hour talking about this and how it was like the worst trade of all time.
I think the Michael Parsons trade is maybe one of the most impactful non-quarterback trades of all time.
So you're saying we didn't overreact enough.
Yes.
We underreacted.
We underreacted more.
I thought I was being a prisoner of the moment.
because during the preseason, we do our like preseason predictions,
who's going to win the Super Bowl, all that stuff.
I thought I was being a little bit of a prisoner of the moment when I picked the Packers
to win the NFC.
I should have gone fucking harder.
I wasn't going hard enough.
They're going to win the Super Bowl.
This is like the biggest juggernaut team in the NFL right now.
Watching that defense and watching the impact that Parsons makes every time he rushes the
passer, I'm like, I don't know how anyone's going to beat this defense.
It's so good.
You know what's funny.
It's crazy is that Parsons has barely practiced.
with the team because he got there with the one,
played like a third full time yet.
And then they did Thursday football.
So he's like frankly,
this coming week is going to be the first time
we've actually seen him with the full week.
And then it's going to play the Cowboys in week four
and Sunday night football,
which is going to be this crazy showcase.
You can already hear Collinsworth talking about Michael Parsons in the trade.
Like,
Oh, my God.
Oh, Michael.
But it is amazing.
How can you get rid of this guy, right?
It is amazing, though, how much it's like everything else in sports,
I think when you add a great guy.
everyone slots down a slot in terms of how important they are and everyone looks better.
It's like when Rashon Gary is your second best pass rusher and Devonte Wyatt defensive tackle,
Lucas Van Ness, like all these guys are first round picks on their defensive line that now look way better.
All their linebackers, or both your linebackers like Quay Walker and Edger and Cooper at top 45 picks.
Their safety's like, everyone looks better.
Michael Parsons is there.
Yeah, I think I think you're right.
Jeff Halfley is doing a great job as the coordinator.
Like DePakish defense looks amazing.
He's the true.
Yeah.
He's the true definition of a force multiplier.
And by the way, the two teams they've played so far this year.
were two of the most electric offenses we saw in the NFL last year,
the Lions and the Commanders.
Through two games, obviously, very small sample.
They're giving up 15 points per game.
They're allowing 3.7 yards per play best in the NFL.
They have eight sacks, which is second most in the NFL,
and 21 quarterback hits, which is first.
Pressure rates top five.
And, by the way, they have a really good offense.
So this team just looks to me like a buzzsaw.
It was a team that needed some stars, and I feel like they got their star on the offensive side of the ball.
Hypert speak a great point.
They had a bunch of B plus A minus players that can now slot down and now they're overqualified in the roles they're playing.
And then even on the offense, it's like if Matthew Golden works out, you know, he can kind of become the number one receiver on that team.
But we're seeing another star break out on the offensive side of the ball, which is Tucker Kraft,
who is starting to look like one of the better tight ends in the league.
And so you're kind of seeing on both sides of the ball of them finding their blue chippers that can
take them from like an NFC championship team to a super
Green Bay's you also uniquely suited to win a lot of different ways.
There we go. Tom, Tom, baby. Oh, yeah.
Every three minutes, you're going to hear that sound. Yeah, the Packers can win the
a bunch of different ways. Jordan West, pushing the ball downfield. So yeah. I agree.
Underreacted to Michael Parsons. All right. He's pretty good. Good guy. He's good.
Bill Simmons running down the hallway coming into our recording was underreacting.
He's like, whoa!
Whoa!
Number two, overreactions after two weeks into the NFL season, we actually believe.
the Vikings probably should have kept Sam Darnold
that was dumb letting him go
we all kind of just let that one happen
first of all
am I being a prisoner of the moment
I know Donald's not amazing
and he really flamed out the final two weeks
but Hayden Winks had underdog pointed this out
when's the next time a 14 win team's going to let their quarterback go
it's so rare
I mean I'm not going to happen
I mean like can't have you think of a different time
in which it was even a conversation
Well, the chiefs went, I think, 12 and 4 when they had Alex Smith.
Yeah.
I'm just going off memory.
And then they went to Patrick Mahomes.
That worked out.
Brett Farf made the NFC championship game and then wanted to keep doing the I'm retiring.
I'm not retiring thing.
And the Packers were like, see ya, like we're going to go to Rogers.
Right.
So I respect what the Vikings tried to do because it's one of the hardest things to do in all
sports is do a quarterback transition.
And to DK's point, Alex Smith.
Like that was, frankly, the Packers is the only team that would have done it.
And Andy Reid did it.
and Andy worked at the Packers before he was a head coach.
So it's like only Packers tree teams have ever pulled off a quarterback transition.
Here's the,
it was slightly different though.
Yeah,
what were you going to say?
Well,
I was going to say,
and if you guys can think of an example pointed out to me,
where teams have tried to be like,
we have a good start or things are going well,
but we think we want to transition as young guy.
As far as I understand,
everyone that I can think of that that's ever happened,
they got to see the quarterback in practice.
And J.G. McCarthy was there,
but he was rehabbing a knee.
He didn't have a ton of experience.
University college got hurt in his meniscus in mid-August and then did not practice with the team.
And I do think the Vikings probably would have benefited by seeing him play for like one season.
It was just terrible.
It was a very unlucky situation.
I feel like the Vikings found themselves in because Darnold, it's like I wonder if they
even could figure out if he was a flash in the pan or not.
Yeah.
And when you have to, if you brought a, let's say you franchise tag Donald and you brought
him back. That sends a weird message to J.J. McCarthy and like what you, what you think about him.
So you had basically the shitter get off the pot and. Well, they didn't have to, but it, yeah.
But they kind of did. Because if you bring Donald back, you're basically, you're punting on J.J.
McCarthy, which is a weird move. If you sign him to a long-term deal, you're punting on J.J.
McCarthy. I guess you could have franchise tagged him, Darnold. It's similar to the Aaron Rogers
Jordan Love succession plan, which was supposed to happen a lot quicker. And then Aaron Rogers came
and won an MVP.
Yeah, but he was Aaron Rogers.
And it's also similar to the Falcons signing Kirk Cousins and Michael Pennings Jr.
The difference to me being I don't really buy the idea of, oh, well, two quarterbacks.
I'm like, you sign Kirk Cousins before you realize you like Michael Penning's of the draft.
And if they knew, you wouldn't have signed him.
So I didn't even think that's the similar.
This is just, it's weird to have like the two guys in one of them wins 14 games.
We're like, oh, we got to let you go.
And I understand I am absolutely hindsight in this situation.
For sure.
Like I am.
I understand why they did it.
But I just think it was a very unfortunate situation.
JJ being hurt ruined
And now he has a high ankle sprain
And you're like, okay, he's out two to four weeks
He's probably gonna be out a month
This team like thinks they should go to the Super Bowl
Now you got Carson Wentz
I am going to briefly disrespect Tom Tom right now
To ask an important question
Okay
I'm gonna take a quick break from Tom Tom
While we're on JJ McCarthy
I have another overreaction
I saw a TikTok the other day
That a guy
It was just scrolling whatever
And they throw stuff in front of you
And it was just dude who just was like
The caption was adding one square inch
of black paint to my face every day until it becomes problematic.
Yeah.
And all I'm saying is I actually don't think of this video every time I see JJ
McCarthy with the eye black on his face.
Yeah, man, I said this.
It's ridiculous.
He looks like a little kid in kindergarten.
Yeah, it's not.
And I know it's like because he wants to look like a warrior or whatever.
But if he added 30% more, it would be like he would be like like a problem.
Yeah.
You know what?
Like it's, it's like he would be like.
We'd have to have a talk about it.
He'd be like the 90s on SM.
Yeah.
teetering toward the water's edge of what is allowable.
Robert Downey Jr.
Yeah.
Right.
It's literally entering the corners of his mouth, it looks like.
It's too much.
When he sweats.
It's too much.
Anyway.
Okay.
Next topic here.
Overreactions we actually are believing after two weeks.
Number three, Craig.
I'm starting to believe the Eagles offense is turning into a fantasy sinkhole.
Oh, no.
A sinkhole.
I'm panicking.
It's panicking.
Oh, God.
It is.
fantasy quickstand right now because you're you have to start devonte smith and a jr brown every week but i'm
getting very nervous it is crazy how boring this offense is there are zero viable pass catchers on the
eagles right now they don't create big plays and they don't score touchdowns jalen hurts is the only
quarterback in the league without a passing touchdown this year the eagles damn are dead last in plays of
10 or more yards and 20 or more yards this year dead last last year they were fourth so dk i pose this to
you is this two weeks week one is basically preseason week two they played steve spagnolo and they
didn't want to you know turn the ball over and they won both games am i overreacting yes i think
this is this is the story this is why jalen hurts you know like we spent the entire offseason
people were so mad at us because i've made this comment about jalen hurts being like the fourth most
important eighth most important thing on the eagles roster last year even though he was the super bowl
MVP. It's like they had such a great defense, such a great offense, such a great offensive line,
best running back in the NFL, really great receivers. And this is why Jalen Hertz has never gotten,
according to Eagles fans, his proper respect is because he is limited as a passer at times.
It's also on his 10th offensive coordinator in 10 years. Yeah. And you know what? Like I like
Jalen Hertz, but if you look at his passing chart from this year and there is a million excuses
you could probably make about why this is, I think he has three passes over 10 yards completed.
it's all in the flats.
It's like if you look at the passing cart,
the greens are the completions.
It's all just in the two flats inside 10 yards.
So they need more from the passing game.
I don't want to.
Yeah.
I'm halfway on this because on one hand,
they've been bad and I don't really want to defend them.
And I do think Kevin Patul of the offensive coordinator is a Seriani guy.
And it's every time there's a new coordinator and things like you want to give them time,
but also it's not like it's giving it to work.
The flip side is the Eagles weren't that good on offense last year for like,
six weeks. Like even Seguan was like, Giants game on, he was like after that it was built to
ass in October on. But like, the Eagles had a good week one versus the Packers in Brazil and
then like kind of weren't that good for the rest of September last year. And then they were
incredible. So the Eagles team even remember isn't a year ago. We were kind of talking about the same stuff.
Having said that, well, what we're here? They win ugly. They win ugly. I think that's true. But it's more
exaggerated right now. If you look at EPA per play, the game they just played against the Chiefs was
the worst offensive game they played, including every.
game last year. It was the worst game of 2024 or 2025. You know what? And honestly, what's helping
them is every offensive drives first to nine because if they get the nine yards, they get the
push push. I do think the push corrections coming because one, it just jumped the shark. Like,
I think about the breaking bad when Mike's yelling at Walter and he's like, we had a good thing
going, you son of a bitch. Like that's the guards fall starting on every push now. So get a good
thing going. This weird cheat code. It just worked every time. And now everyone's like, all right,
you're going before the ball. Like, this is fucked up. The rest are going to flag it. They're
going to get a third and one turn to a third and six. This is.
this week. And then it's going to all come crashing down.
I think there's going to be continued frustration with Jalen Hurts, Craig.
But I think they're going to be better. There's going to be much more explosive in the
office. They're not moving the ball down the field. They're not throwing the ball down the
field. They were 7th and yards per attempt last year. They're 26 this year. I know it's only
been two games. I'm just, it's, it's looking very uninventive, this Kevin Petullo
offense. Yeah. This is where I cheated and just kind of put stuff next to each other for
thematic purposes. I have the next one here is
the chiefs, D.K., you
had, you just wrote down, the chiefs
are missing the playoffs.
This is, you know, the
Lord of the Rings where the big, ugly
orc is like, the age of
the age of men is over. The
time of the ork has come. That's like what I feel
about the chiefs right now. The age of the chiefs
might be ending at this point.
This age of the chiefs. Yeah.
Maybe it would be another one.
I wanted to
hyphen, you talk about this all the time.
losing the Super Bowl for most teams turns into like a self-destructive feedback.
It's depression. It's the entire life is built.
Yeah. It's like you're getting sucked into a black hole.
Yes.
And losing, begets more losing, the chiefs have lost their first two games.
That can tend to turn into a snowball effect.
Obviously, winning cures all ills.
They're not winning now.
Last year they won, they were 10 and 0 in one score games.
This year they're 0 and 2.
You start to get a little bit mad at each other.
You start to point fingers and then it starts to just get worse and worse.
We see this with so many other Super Bowl teams.
And the Chiefs have been sort of immune to this forever because they have Patrick Mahomes.
And obviously they won a lot of Super Bowles.
They didn't have to deal with that.
But they have Patrick Mahomes.
And he's just kind of made them invincible or have the veneer of invincibility.
But that feels like it's wearing off here.
And so, you know, I'm just kind of worried about the Chiefs at this point.
I was the one who was pushing back against you all offseason high fits when I was like,
how many games did they win last year?
And now I'm like, oh.
Well, they would 17 and no and one score games.
And like, that's like cool.
But like you shouldn't have, if you're that good of a team,
you shouldn't have to be pulling stuff out of your ass.
They won six games in the final play of the game.
And they weren't against great teams.
And I just, I totally agree though,
because it's also just they made all the Super Bowls in a row.
And again, it's underrated.
They filmed the happiness is expectation minus reality.
The Chiefs expectation was where the 90s bulls.
Literally Mahomes was so obsessed with the last dance.
He filmed the entire season last year for the Chiefs.
And made a documentary.
because he wanted their three-peat as a doc like the 90s bowls.
And like, one, that's depressing when you lose and you think you're the Michael Jordan of football
and then you lose.
Like, fuck, we didn't do it.
We'll never get to try it ever again.
And they know it deep down.
And also, it's exhausting to play that many games.
This happens in basketball all the time.
The Warriors were exhausted with three-b.
Michael Jordan went and played baseball because he was so tired after making those three runs
in a row.
He quit basketball.
Right.
It's tiring to do this.
It's a lot of football, man.
that's why he played baseball because he was tired
are you in on do you actually wait now this is a
Tom you actually do you think he was suspended are you
are you team gambling I don't think it was because he was tired
it was either because of his dad or because of gambling is what I believe
I do not think it had to do with his energy levels but
I love to wake right you think he was like shadow right
as I've gotten older become more open to this you basically think
the idea is that David Stern was like we have evidence that
you're gambling you know whatever money to gambling guy but like
um we don't want to
ruin your face as image of the league.
So we're going to quietly suspend you appease the owners than the league that won't you
suspended.
But like just go away and we'll just feel it.
Yeah,
it's why Shohei Otani is going to be on the Knicks next year just for a year.
Can we get,
have it play some QB, man.
I kind of do think the chiefs are going to miss the playoffs.
It's tough now because the Chargers have clearly elevated.
Chargers are too.
The Broncos are good.
I don't know if the Raiders are good.
But it's going to be very difficult for the.
chiefs to, I think, even get a wild court.
Well, the chiefs still have to play the Ravens, the Lions, the Bills, like the Chiefs have
hard games. I mean, the Giants. I mean, you know what's so funny? The Giants. Did you say the Giants?
I don't want to be like must win. Yeah, I know, juggernauts. It's unbelievable. Yeah.
So, yeah, I think it's a good call, DK. Last thing on this, I know we're over Tom, Tom,
but we used a minute on Michael Jordan. Travis Kelsey literally ruined the first two games.
It is funny that Travis Kelsey became the biggest story in America. Well,
America, but in pop culture by Mary Taylor Swift, because literally, Travis Kelsey should have scored
a touchdown against the Chargers and he ran the wrong route and wasn't the same page of
Bahamas. And he's catched that. They probably beat the charges week one. And he should have caught
a touchdown and they tossed the ball off his face into the Eagle safety. And then he catches that.
They probably beat the Eagles. So honestly, Travis Kelsey two plays away from the Chiefs being two at all,
which is funny. Any fucking knocked Xavier Worthy out in the third play of the game of the season.
So I think the chief should go get Tyree Kill again.
actually think they should too. Honestly, I'll just do that one next. My next overreaction is
Mike McDaniel is so pre-fired. Like three minutes on the clock guy. Mike made Mike McDaniels.
I actually think it's like when you like the when someone's planning to break up with someone,
but then they just kind of put it off for a little while. Well, I actually, I don't know.
We're going, you know, we're going to be out of town next week. I'll just wait.
I can't remember a more bizarre energy out of a coach in press conferences for two straight
weeks. He is the most despondent, scattered, uh, distant,
person in the in the press conference you have to kind of give this energy like whether you're
faking it or not if you're a coach in these situations of like we are locked in we're not
focused on the outside noise Mike McDaniels seems so distracted and overwhelmed behind the scenes
it's like Cliff Kingsbury at the end of days in Arizona was like a host of himself I actually
I actually think this Thursday football game between Dolphins and bills I think this is Mike
McDaniel's last game is the Dolphins coach I think he's gonna lose by 40 they're gonna lose
and he's and I maybe the team a little quitty on him and I
think he's going to get fired.
And I say that for a few reasons.
But one, it's a good window if Miami wants to do it because there is a gap.
It's Thursday in football.
Their next game's on Monday night.
So they have like, what is that?
It's like 11 days between games for a new coach.
Also at the end of the day, week one, they got pretty embarrassed by Daniel Jones.
First team in the 21st century to allow 10 possessions, 10 scores to open a season.
And then they lose to the Patriots and Mike Vrable in his first, you know, week two.
And then this week, again.
The dolphins are one in 13 for bills and the last 14 games.
And so if you start, you lose again to Buffalo.
You've made no progress.
You start 0 and 3.
The playoffs are out of sight.
Your last place in the AFC East already.
And then on top of it, the dolphins have spent as much money as the Eagles are 49ers in
Mike McDaniel's 10 years.
They've spent money.
They're not going to fire the GM because the Chris Gears been there for 25 years.
They're not going to get rid of Tua because Mike McDaniel convinced Stephen Ross to pay to us.
Stephen Ross, the owner, didn't want to do it.
Mike McDaniel convinced him to do it.
So I think McDaniel's on the chopping block.
Yeah.
I think he's a good example of how big of a difference and how much of a jump it is to go from like a coordinator or position coach to off to the head coach.
It's a totally different job.
Incredible amount of responsibility, including being the face of the team, the CEO, the sort of spiritual leader, the person who's going to rally the team when they're down.
It's so much harder when you're losing.
you have to have a certain aura about you.
And it does not appear that he has it.
I'm not in their meetings or whatever,
so I can't really tell.
But based on sort of everything we know about him,
it's hard to imagine him being,
you know,
like the leader of men,
rally guys when they're no kind of deal.
I can't imagine what the Dolphins players are thinking,
watching him in those press conferences
and whatever he's saying in the locker room.
It is genuinely the weirdest energy I've ever seen from a coach.
And he'll probably go on to be a great offensive coordinator
on some team next year.
Right.
But like,
Can you go to the Eagles right now?
That would be great.
Yeah.
Can we trade him?
But do you think Tyree Kill is gets traded midseason?
I'd have to look at the contract, see if someone could fit him in.
But like, if you're the Chiefs, yeah.
I mean, kind of.
Schifter said that no one has called the Dolphins yet about him.
The Chiefs brought Cream Hunt back and Cream Hunt sucks.
He's awful.
Yeah.
Week six, do you bring back Rishi Rice, you get Tyree Kill?
Now we're cooking.
Yeah.
That actually is the thing I meant to say about the Chiefs is like, I kind of wonder if
Shire Ice comes back and it will be fine.
Probably not though.
The, uh, it'll be better.
The next one I want to roll through here are Craig.
Yeah.
My, an overreaction, I'm, I'm starting to believe a little bit is just like Ashton
Genty in general, I'm a little, I'm a little concerned.
This is like, Craig, I'm getting like deja vu about how mad I was about last year,
Brees Hall and you kind of shitting on
Brees Hall early in the season. Can we clarify
it? Are you concerned? I'm like, I'm like,
this is stupid. And then you kind of watch
it yesterday and you're like, fuck God. It's too cold.
It might be right. Also, I have him in our Ringer league. I took him in the second round.
Yeah. I'm very invested in Ashton Jenty. I think it's two things.
I think the Raiders are failing Ashton Jenty.
Austin Gale here at the Ringer posted on threads today,
which I'm not on. He said,
Ashton Genty is the only running back in the NFL with 20 plus carries averaging negative yards before
contact through two weeks. So obviously the Raiders are failing Ashton Genti. The yards before contact is actually
worse this year than it was last year with Zemir White. But Zemir White was actually a little bit better
than Ashton Jenton even. Ashty even. Like just the first two weeks at Zemir White last year was
averaging more yards for carry and more receptions and more yards in Ashton Jenty. But while I do think
the offensive line is a disaster and we may be overlooked that a little bit because of how tantalizing
Genti was. I do think there's a little bit of body language stuff that's bothering me about
Gentie. I do think he looks a little fed up about this situation. I think he looks a little
almost lackadaisical at times, kind of like low energy. When he has the ball and he hits a hole,
he looks great. And I think he's a very good running back. However, there are moments. Like there was
a miscommunication with a handoff with Gino Smith on Monday night. And he kind of just gave up.
Like he didn't try, he didn't panic, look to block somebody. He kind of just stood there, stopped walking.
It's like the way he stands before they hand the ball off to him
when he's just kind of in the back there like Michael Byers.
He,
there is something about him.
He kind of like half-assed a couple blocking assignments.
It does seem a little like he's perhaps a little frustrated.
And you can see it in his body language and that's a little concerning to me.
They also took him off of third downwork, right?
Or two-minute drill.
Two-minute drill, this guy in Dylan Law Bay is in there.
And I'm like, the six pick in the draft can't be on in the two-minute drill.
He's not ready for that.
Dylan Law-Bay is.
Craig last night's just like texting.
Who is this white dude playing in the two-minute drill?
And I'm like, Craig, wait to you find out.
Who's in?
I remember me.
New Hampshire.
I met Dylan loud, right?
At the senior bowl.
And it was loud.
I don't know how to say.
I think he's loud.
I think I asked him to his face because it was at the senior ball and nobody was talking to him.
You know, one-on-one conversation for 10 minutes because he went to the seventh round.
Lowby.
No one wanted to talk to him.
Lobe?
Yeah, I just talked to him for 10 minutes about just being a seventh-round pick or whatever.
Austin said it's Laobie.
Or Lobby.
Anyway, the point being, I, I, I,
think this is fair. I will say this is we I think all our analysis on the Genti was kind of accurate
where it's like he's a great player. We don't really want to knock him on for going in the first
round because he's sick to watch but also like teams that take running backs high like you go
into the situation. How did did Sequin help the Giants win games? Did Christian McCaffrey help the
Panthers win games? No. Like can't wait for Ash and Gentile's second contract on a good team,
man. You know who helps the Cowboys win games? Zeke Elliott. Because they're the best offensive
line in the NFL. No, you're totally right. But I don't like what I'm seeing from him from a body
That's a fair snipe. And it's interesting because, sorry, I know we're going over for a second,
but Gentie has the same problem. A lot of quarterbacks do. These first two games are the worst he's
ever performed in his entire life. He's probably never struggled in any game. Yeah, I mean,
there's a lot of jokes about like, you know, Ashton Gentie when he's not going up against San Jose
State and how he looks in the NFL. I still think he looks really good and he's like talking
people and stuff like that. He just looks pretty frustrated. Also, he played 57% of the
snaps this week. Don't know what that's about. I know they were down, but like, fucking give this
bad a ball. He's good in the passing game. That was part of the... He was a receiver in high school.
He replaced Marvin Mims in high school who had the most yards in the history of Texas high school
football. Whatever, man. Yeah, I agree. Speaking of Texas, though, Hampton, by the way, doesn't look
great either. Well, in general, there are... I saw the stat. I'll give him two months. No, no. It takes a while.
the lesson with rookies you have to wait. However, there are 19 running backs with 100 yards
rushing this year. None of them are. How many times did we say in the offseason, don't draft
a man in Hampton. We were, before Najee Harris had a fireworks incident. We were like draft
Najee Harris and flipping from Aaron Hampton in week six. And then unfortunately Hampton shot up
because Noggi got hurt. But this was her thing. We're like, don't take a rookie. Wait for him to
suck. And then get them in week five. Same with like, you know, a lot of these guys. Matthew
Golden's a good example. Someone's going to cut Matthew Golden and it's going to be great later.
I still think Hampton looks good.
Yeah. No, I do. I do. I will say though. My next one, um, this is one I'm actually, I really, I actually wish I'd put this higher in terms of how much I believe it. I think Brandon Aubrey, the Cowboys kicker should be offensive player of the year. Through two weeks. Like, I think he's the best offense. Even though he's on special teams, I think he's the best offensive player in the NFL. So I, I, there's so many aspects to this, but just to remind people, the NFL record, if you don't count the preseason kick from the Jaguars, the NFL record for a field goal is 66 yards. Just a
Tucker bounced one in off the upright from 66.
Brandon Aubrey.
Off of the cross bar?
Yeah, the crossbar.
And it doinked in.
Brandon Aubrey said,
barely got it in.
He barely.
Brennan Aubrey from 64 yards to send the game in overtime,
64 yards hit the fucking back wall.
It was halfway up.
It was going up.
Yeah.
It was like happy Gilmore on the driving range.
Yes.
Yeah.
He's the most incredible player.
You should play at the water very end tomorrow.
Dude.
Yeah.
Honestly, I will say, so he told.
Step right up and.
and face the kicking ball wacker guy.
Dude, he told you.
The amazing ball kicker guy.
We are in the golden age of kicking.
There's a lot of things going on.
Kickers are so much better than the kickers have ever been.
They're also.
Don't forget the,
don't forget the cable.
They're juicing the balls.
We were in the juice ball era starting this season.
They are juicing the ball.
And again, balls are like baseball minutes.
You've got to break them in.
And the NFL for the last 25 years made you break them in like an hour.
Oh, Deacon's making a face, please.
But you got to break a baseball minute.
They gave him an hour to break the footballs in.
Yeah, you got to massage them. Yeah, you got to massage it.
You gave him an hour.
Now the team's got 60 balls at the beginning of the season.
And they're like, yeah, just keep these all year.
So like they're beguing the shit out of these balls.
So kickers are better, juiced balls.
The coaches are seeing this and letting him kick from further than ever.
So you get things like there are two numbers in particular, I can't believe.
There were double the 60 yard field goals last season had double the 60 yard field goals than the entire 20th century combined.
The other one is.
50 yard kicks in the 2000s
were 53% conversion rate
So like that's shack at the free throw line
Through two weeks 50 yard kicks are 84%
Which is Michael Jordan at the free throw line
I'm to the point where if someone misses a 50 yarder
I'm like what the fuck?
Dude 50 they're hitting 50 yard kicks
Five out of six times
Eating my hot dog
Who can make it
Loser
Like spill mustard on my shirt
Make it rookie
Yeah, pretty much
Well, the hyphids last year
I think I saw kickers
Maybe you already said this, sorry I don't listen to you
Kickers made more field goals last year than any other year ever
This was like literally the most
Yeah, because coaches see they're better
And are kicking it more
And it's funny now I feel like there's only
Which is bad for the smart by way
We don't want to watch this
Isn't it funny though there's only two kinds of kickers
We have weapons from 60 yards
And guys who can't make PATs
They have the yips
We're gonna say Greg
I would like
to insert a mini take purge, a mini take into Power Hour right now. Please. That I want to tell you guys.
I think now the kickoff rule is stupid and it's gone way too far and getting the ball at the 35 yard
line sucks. I will so it's completely. So I agree because these things have happened at the same
timeline. The NFL is moving. It used to be you get a touchback. It goes to the 20. And then now you get a
touchback. It's the 35.
So they moved it up 15 yards.
And now kickers are better than ever.
And they get to, with these kicking balls.
So now you, I mean, Brandon Aubrey is, it can easily hit a 65 yard field goal,
which means now you get the ball at the 35.
You need to go 15 yards and then you are within range of a 67 yard field goal.
You can go 10 yards.
Like literally the Dallas Cowboys, I mean, Brandon Aubrey, I mean, honestly, think about this way.
It used to be obvious that field goal range required you get into the other team's territory.
You no longer have to cross the 50.
be in field garage.
Brandon Aubrey told Schottenheimer in pregame at that Giants game.
He was like, just anything at the 50, like, it's fine.
Like, it wasn't like I can do it.
It was like, it's not a question.
The kickoffs to me, they don't resemble football anymore.
It doesn't make any sense.
Honestly, no kickoffs.
You just start on the 25.
That's what we should do.
I like having more kickoffs.
I like that the kickoff is back in play.
I think it's fun to have special teams again in football.
I just think that the field position is ridiculous.
Now with the way the kickoffs are set or like nobody can move.
It's like if you catch the ball and return,
turn it. You're going to get that on the 35 or 40 half the time. Now, if it's a touchback,
you're in the 35. You're basically just always in field goal range. And honestly,
it's starting to, you can feel it's starting to mess with like fourth down decision making
because now if you score a touchdown or you kick a field goal and you know you have to kick off
now, factoring in that these teams are basically going to get the ball at the 35 yard line and
are going to be 15 yards within field goal range is kind of making things trickier. It's like you
basically need to stop them immediately or out. I think it won first down. They're basically
in field goal range.
I just think it sucks.
Do you like having touchbacks?
Or so, do you just like what they've done
with the kickoff for the season, DK?
Because it's worked.
Literally last year, I think you went from,
I believe, top of my head,
like one third of kicks were returned last year.
And then this year,
it's three quarters of kicks are being returned.
So it has succeeded.
You know what I do during kickoffs?
I go to the bathroom.
I don't need them.
That's what they're trying to change.
Well, that, yeah, they're like, yeah.
Get rid of them.
Do you like that the kickoffs and what they've done with it?
The games are faster without them.
Get rid of them.
I think.
I understand what Craig is saying in terms of just the math in terms of how to stop a team if they're going to come back and kick a field goal after gaining 10 yards.
That is kind of weird.
But at the same time, if it leads to teams going for touchdowns more, I think that's a good thing.
Honestly, I don't really like watching field goal attempts.
And I think it's boring.
So I think it kind of goes both ways where if you, if we go back to the old rules with, you know, touchbacks coming to the 20.
whatever, there's going to be less scoring and I want scoring.
So I don't know.
I disagree with this, I think.
I like teams working to get into field goal range.
To me, I feel like that's half the battle is like, can a team do it?
And now it's like, you don't have to do anything.
It's like you could do it in 20 seconds, right?
Now it's just like you make one play.
That's what I think has changed the most.
And I don't think this is honestly a huge conversation that affects most of the game.
What's totally changed is the final two minutes of each half.
Because the calculus on how much time you need to get in scoring range is like the Chief's
Bill's thing is going to look quaint in 10 years where they scored a field goal in 13 seconds.
It's like now you're going to be able to do that.
If you have a time out, you're going to be able to get in field range in five seconds.
Literally, you will be able to get in field range if you have a time out in five seconds.
If you have one of the right now, I guess there's like six or seven kickers that it, which is
crazy to sit at lad.
But there are six or seven kickers that see, especially with the K balls being juiced,
that feel like they can make a 66 yard field goal, which is the NFL record.
But I think there's, I think the record's going to be broken three or four.
I think the record could be broken two or three times.
season. It's just starting to feel a little ridiculous. Like I kind of like came to in the
middle of a game and I was like, they get the ball to 35. So I think 35% of the way towards the
end zone. The thing that illustrates it to me is the thing that illustrates it to me is the relic
of the penalty of if you kick the ball out of bounds on the kickoff. The punishment is you have to
give them the ball at the 40, which was a big deal when the touchback was at the 20. Now it doesn't even
matter. It's kind of funny to me now that that rule has stayed the same where it's like the
touchback is the 35 and the punishment for kicking it out of bounds is the 40.
But it's like you can't even worsen the punishment because then what?
You're going to give somebody the ball at the 50?
What I don't understand.
What I don't understand and I think teams are really being not creative enough with is they
should be really aggressive at booting the ball because the rule is the ball is to touch the ground.
They never can run.
They should be sending flying balls at, God, the way I said that's kind of funny, but they should
just be like firing the football at these guys in the course.
corner with the idea being you want to try to like pegging them in the head.
Yeah, but you want to just basically put them in the situation, I'm trying to field it.
And if it goes out of bounds, oh no, at the 40, but the upside, you're risking five yards if it goes out of bounds.
But the upside is you could try to pin them inside the 15.
And I think teams should be way more aggressive and creative about trying to pin the returners in weird positions.
Because the like, just sacrifice the five yards at the 40.
It's like, who cares?
I don't, I don't want like half of the strategy to be like,
How can we pin the
receiving the punt returner
or the kick return on a kickoff?
I'm like,
I just want to see an offense
have to go down the field and score.
The broader context of this.
Can we game the system?
The NFL felt the need
to respond to concussions
and they looked at concussions
and they were like,
why are half the concussions
on the stupid play
where everyone's going to take a piece?
Yeah, I get it.
Just get rid of them.
And so they're like trying
to find a solution
out of that problem
where they're like,
we can say we eliminated concussions
and get people to watch more
win win.
And so this is the result.
But it's weird.
Again, scoring position's been
completely redefined
end of the half, which is just crazy. It's just weird that you can, like, Brandon Aubrey's
is going to kick a field goal this season from the Cowboys 45-yard line, which is crazy.
Yeah. So anyway. I mean, it's, it's obviously cool and it's an advantage for the Cowboys,
but I don't know, it just kind of bothered me. All right. Next, uh, overreaction after two weeks,
Craig. I think Travis Hunter was a siren song and he's a number three wide receiver and a number
three cornerback on his team. And the jokes about he's expensive, Wondell Robinson,
or he's Cole Beasley on offense or something. I don't know.
man. The guy averages 3.9 yards
per target this year.
He is playing 60%
of snaps on offense,
which is behind,
just for reference,
this is how much Travis Hunter's
playing on offense.
He is playing less snaps
percentage-wise than
Xavier Hutchinson,
Michael Wilson,
Sterling Shepard,
Tyler Johnson,
Brandon Cooks,
Andre Yoshivas.
And so I'm like,
okay, if you're doing that,
and then he's also playing
like 60% of the snaps
on defense, which he did last week,
I don't know what the point is.
You're getting two backup players for the second overall pick in the draft?
I don't understand.
This was always the downside or like the bear case on doing this, right?
Like you get two okay players on both sides of the ball.
Yes.
It's too early.
I think it's like too early to actually make this judgment.
But this is like the bad version of what we.
of what we're doing here.
Like what,
what they wanted to do is that he's just going to be a jack of all trades master of none.
Jag,
a jack of all trades.
Jag of all trades.
I,
I am on record as being more excited about Travis Hunter as a prospect than anyone.
And I can't really argue that anything Craig's saying.
He's a rookie.
It's like any other rookie blah,
blah, blah.
Like,
but to Craig's point.
And again,
even bigger picture,
it's like probably unrealistic.
Like maybe a second season is when you really want to start judging.
Is this working?
However,
to Craig's point.
Yeah.
If it's November this year or realistically November next year and Travis Hunter is still
too.
That's tough.
He's playing less than Andre Yoshavos.
And whatever.
Maybe it's unrealistic to expect it to immediately out of the gate work on both sides.
Andre Yoshav.
But you're right.
Like the composer.
It's like, the financier?
I don't know.
The composer.
No, but you're right.
Like the worst case scenarios you traded when they give up a future first and more to move
up.
They paid for two players.
And a second, I think.
Even I didn't like the trade because you're paying as if he can definitely do this instead
if he could.
The whole one of the reasons I like Travis Hunter was the upside was if he's good at
both, it's a quarterback contract.
You're creating a quarterback value deal.
The downside to Craig's point is you trade it like you could do both, but you're actually
getting the equivalent of like a really good fourth round pick or fifth round pick on both
sides of the ball, which is a catastrophe.
And I got to say, I will say this.
If it doesn't work, I do wonder if there will be an organizational pressure to make it work
rather than switch him and kind of capitulate to him being a one-way player when the Jaguars
GM, Duggy Hauser kind of paid as if he'd play.
but one way. But I agree, Craig. It's not ideal.
It's tough. And look, this is week two overreactions. Maybe it'll change. But I personally don't
think it's possible that he's going to play 70 snaps on either side of the ball. And I think
they just need to pick. And to be honest, he should probably be just a wide receiver.
And also the other funny part about it is, is that the Jaguars traded up to the second
pick. It didn't take Michael, Abdul Carter. I know. That's the other thing is they gave up the
opportunity to draft Abdul Carter. So anyway. I think, I think, I
That's fair.
The last one here, and then we can move on.
This isn't a take.
This is just an earnest question to you guys.
I don't even have a take.
I just would like to be vulnerable about my Giants fandom.
And I have an actual question if you guys.
I want to start with Dana Kelly.
Should the Giants have released Daniel Jones?
This is fucking hilarious.
Well, I think there's shades to that answer, right?
Because didn't they, couldn't they have tried to trade him earlier?
something like that when he had more value and then they ended up just like cutting him for nothing.
I can't remember.
No, it's it he had they overpaid him on the contract.
Right.
And then they cut him, which is both saving money and cost.
It's like saving money, but there's debt.
So this season, the Giants dead cap for Daniel Jones is $20 million.
It's more than the culture paying him $14 million.
But it did save them because they were going to pay him 40.
So they basically got to save 20, but they'd also still sunk cost 20.
But I am look and again, he's bad like I don't think he's playing that well.
However, I do watch this and also Russell Wilson played well, but I do watch this and be like, I don't know.
Be nice to have a guy like that right now.
It's just really annoying that he, Daniel Jones final 15 games, he went like three and four, three and 12.
And I'm like, now he's no.
What I was going to say, Hyfitz is this is like asking should the jets have released Sam Darnold or should the Browns have gotten rid of Baker Mayfield?
Yeah.
Like they, none of those guys were going to succeed in those environments.
Yeah.
To me, this says, to me this says two things.
One, Anthony Richardson was worse than we thought.
My God.
Oh my God.
Holy shit.
Craig, they haven't punted yet.
If Daniel Jones steps in and you are immediately the best team in the league,
holy shit.
It's funny.
And again, the cults, Austin had a good story at the ring of this week that has a bunch
of stats from the week, one of which that blew my doors off was that the cults are the only
team to ever not punt in their first two games in the, I think this one of the first
Only team ever.
And it's cheating a little because they went, they turn it over and downs twice.
Regardless.
Yes.
They still do lead the NFL in points per drive and EPA per drive.
Yeah.
Also, I think, I think Shane Steichen, we have to give him a little bit more credit in that,
and realized that when he left Philadelphia, because the last year in Philadelphia, he was
incredible.
The Eagles were 14 and 3.
That was the year they went to this loss to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.
And that was their best offensive season overall was with Stuyken.
And he's just had not a lot to work with since coming to Indianapolis.
And I think we're seeing now what he is capable of doing with the Daniel Jones type that is kind of similar to a Jalen Hertz type.
I think the Colts defense is more legit than the offense.
I also think this is the Saints from last year where they start 2 and O'm like amazing.
And like I just don't think this is real.
Do you really think that?
Do you think, like how many wins do you think the Colts will have this year?
I'd be really surprised if it was more than 10.
I think they could win the division nine or 10, but like I don't think they're an 11 win team.
I think the defense of Lou and Arumo is really interesting what they're doing.
But I don't think Daniel Jones even a month from now
is going to be like, oh my God, he's playing so well.
Because the Saints went 2 and then finish the season with only five wins.
So you're saying the Colts will still be twice as good as what happened.
I'm saying that there's not.
I think there's ceilings 10 wins, yeah.
Okay.
I mean, that's not that.
That's pretty good.
Well, yeah.
I think the floors.
I'm saying the ceiling is 10 wins.
I think the floor is like, yeah, five or six.
I think it's such an interesting situation because on one,
It just really truly depends on how you look at this because I think the reason I was, and I think a lot of people were upset that they decided to go with Daniel Jones is because they drafted Anthony Richardson knowing full well that he was a project.
It was they said this when they drafted him.
They played him four games in.
And then they fucking gave up on him after like a year.
And I understand the context of maybe he just wasn't putting in the work necessary or whatever.
Like maybe that is actually what happened.
but to give up on the guy who they self-described as a project.
And you know what I mean?
Like this is the same situation where it's like we're making fun of the Falcons,
even though probably ended up being the right move to draft Michael Panix
and have that succession plan and play,
you can still talk about the process that went into this.
And you're like,
why the fuck did you give Kirk Cousins $100 million?
Why the fuck did you draft Anthony Richardson that type of quarterback
if you're just going to give up on him after a year?
Or two years or whatever.
So that's like, I think,
Depends on how you look at this.
Obviously, I think we got to give psyching credit for picking the right quarterback to run his offense.
But I'm still kind of annoyed at, like, just how that all went down.
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We got an email from Andy.
Now he's the shoe is on the other foot.
Yeah, we got an email from everyone.
None of his got hurt, right?
He has Trevor Warren to Caleb Williams, Michael Pennex.
I think he cuts Stafford or something.
I don't know.
Oh, did he drop?
Which is funny because then all the quarterbacks got hurt.
So yeah, but Andy emailed in saying this is what Bill Simmons has been waiting for.
And how many trade offers has Bill been set?
Which is probably numb.
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King of the castle.
But yeah, we'll see Salvers Bill will be a great job.
I hope he crushes him.
Okay. Fantasy court is in session.
All right.
Do we have the drop?
I definitely don't tell anyone about this thing that you're doing.
I don't really want to be handcuffed.
The definition of an object is a material thing that can be seen and touched.
Craig's tone.
By the way, I was...
That's important.
I was told by front of the show, Kyle, that that was when we were talking about the cloud.
we looked up object.
It is a cloud and object.
It is a material thing that can be seen or touched.
Well, cloud can be seen.
It can't be touched.
It can be touched.
Oh, no, sorry, it is a material.
I don't know if I said that in the sound drop.
It's a material thing that can be seen and touched.
Can you touch a cloud?
Yes.
Yeah, guess.
Can you?
Yeah.
Well, can you touch something if you don't feel it?
It's like wet.
Oh, well, this gets back to the other thing.
Is fog a cloud?
Well, are you, D.K., can you touch oxygen?
What are we doing now?
No, but is fog a cloud?
I always thought fog was a ground cloud.
And then I was told you the other day, it's wrong.
If you fall through a cloud, Craig, you're going to get wet.
Yeah.
Is that true?
Yeah, that's what we were talking about with skydiving through a cloud.
But that's if it's raining.
If you skydive through a regular white puffy cloud, you're going to get wet.
Maybe not a white puffy one.
DK., are you touching the air right now.
God damn.
Yeah.
You are.
I mean, technically.
Well, then if you can, if you're touching the air, then you can, if you're touching the air,
and you can certainly touch a cloud.
There we go.
That's like a...
Are you saying air is an object?
No, because you can't see it.
Is air an object?
You can't see it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yes, air can be considered an object in a scientific sense
because it is composed of matter,
possessing mass and occupying space.
But, your honor,
according to Webster's dictionary,
an object must be seen and touched.
I don't know.
This concludes phase.
anyway
this is one of those things
where like it's funny to talk about
but I don't actually want to think about it
should I even read it anything more
that was pretty good actually
I don't know let's get to the court
let's do it
I don't know that was kind of good
we still don't know what a cloud is
for fuck sake all I know is that
it allegedly weighs a billion pounds
fuck give me a break
give me a break
this one's from Austin
a Boston
what's up fellas breakfast this morning
running white chocolate macadamia nut cliff bar and a zero sugar monster what a what a combo interesting
combo i actually people fucking get after in the morning dude i love the breakfast thing it is such a window
into your life it's incredible i love it people like yeah just getting up and people don't give
slamming monsters dr pepper and a mcgrittle and i'm ready to fucking cook jesus i love it uh my question
is more of a fantasy ethics issue than a fantasy court issue i'm the commissioner of three leagues in my
workplace which is also wild wow and this year we added awful we added several people
who are not only new to fantasy, but new to football as a whole.
We did our best to help them draft reasonable teams, but now that we're two weeks in the season,
I've started thinking about trades.
My question is, what is the proper etiquette if I wanted to trade for someone for one of the
teams managed by someone who doesn't really know anything about football?
Obviously, I don't want to intentionally flee someone in a trade if they don't know any better,
but I'm also trying to get my team as good of a deal as humanly possible.
Do you have any insights to help me save from a potential mutiny?
which sounds like he's trying to push the limit
as much as he could possibly get to a trade
not being vetoed while taking advantage
of someone who doesn't know anything about football
and he's trying to throw the data here for being honest
this is business ethics
his questions is like what's the best
fleecing I can get away with on these schmocks
where's the line yeah I don't
I mean maybe there needs to be like an impartial ombudsman
who has to look at the trade or something like that
yeah what I was going to say is and sometimes in these situations
if you're dealing with someone who doesn't feel
confident that they know what they're doing is you can send them like a screenshot of a trade to
trade grade or whatever from any of the different platforms and it's like see look this is
somewhat reasonable on both sides and that gives them here's presence of that gives them
yeah totally oh my god um this is actually bad for oh my god dude dude i'm giving i'm doing you
one of those one of those one of those one called keep trade cut and um a league a man one of the guys
Dustin is a web designer
and he, I don't know what he does.
I don't know what you do, Dustin, if you're listening.
But he made a website
that looks exactly like keep trade cut,
but he called it like drop swap hop or whatever.
And he just made the calculator so that like
all the players on like one of the guys' teams
that are a league,
he would always lose.
And so it would always equal.
Like no matter what,
the trade would always be equal.
And he sends screenshots from this like identical looking website.
That's, that's fucking sociopath.
It was the fun.
No, it's.
So funny.
Do he actually like conducts trades?
He almost convinced someone to make a trade because anything you plug in ends up
equal.
There's like, there's no way that's correct.
It's so funny.
Yeah.
Anyway, uh, I think this is an easy fantasy court where like you have to think long term.
You can just flee someone.
This is your work.
Know anything about.
Yeah.
Well, that's it.
If you're to leave the job soon, whatever, man.
I will.
So is the person you're trading with your subordinate or your.
boss. That's true. If they're a warden it, fuck them.
If you're the boss, be careful.
I think I do, we do get this
question, this version of a question a lot. My answer is
always the same.
Not to be all much gushy about it, but
the purpose of when you, when you
have a couple people in a league who are new,
and like don't either completely new to fantasy
or in this case, new to football,
not to be all like sappy about it.
The goal is not to fucking
steal Tyler Warren from them.
Yes, it is. The goal
is to make them. The goal is to make them
to win the game.
Yeah,
crush them.
The goal is to get them
to like fantasy football
so they keep playing
in your league.
And so if you actually want,
like I assume,
and maybe I'm wrong,
if this person joined the league,
you convinced them to join
because they didn't like football
and they're in your league.
I assume you wanted this person in.
So don't immediately turn them against you
because they realized three weeks later
you robbed them is probably a bad idea
or just going to win.
Fuck it.
But I think you have to pick.
Either decide if you want them
to like fantasy football,
and care about it and then nurture their
or just fleece them, but
don't do anything in the middle.
Like, fucking pick what side of the venture on.
You got to,
you got to create a paper trail.
Take some pictures for yourself
of trade simulators.
So if the,
if the league revolts,
you can show them the receipts that said,
look, this looked like a pretty fair trade
according to this,
that or the other.
Build paper trail.
Send the trade to us.
We'll act as the board.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, we're the board.
This guy's the CEO of the company
and we're the other.
board. That's good. We'll approve the trade. I like that. Yeah. I like that. And we can
check and balances here. Yeah. That's smart. Okay. Are they go to Austin. We'll, we'll approve the trade. He's
probably like, I'm not going to do it now. Austin, Venmo is $20 each. I'll approve any trade.
Yeah. Also, just don't be a piece of shit. See, there's a sign. What's that, um,
oh, uh, what's this show David Simon made about Times Square and the invention of like porn?
Oh, the deuce. Yeah, the deuce. There's a scene in the deuce where the lawyer is like, you have to give me a dollar.
They didn't invent porn in the 80s or the 70s.
Well, it's like the invention of porn's been around.
It's been in the woods.
It's in the 70s.
It's like the invention of it's like prostitutes.
No, I know, I know, I know, I know.
They didn't invent pornography in the, in that time era, but whatever.
Okay.
You get what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Yes, I do.
There's been porn for, I was being a jerk.
Video porn.
There we go.
Now we're talking.
Oh, right.
Actually, it looks funny when he says, in my mind, porn is video.
And I don't even think of magazine.
The idea of still images counting as porn is so funny to me.
But I guess the D.K.
It's essential.
Were there ever porn flip books?
Was that ever a thing?
Flip books?
Yeah, where you, not flip books.
Where you could like, like, you know, a picture book where you're like, you fly through
the pages very quickly and it creates like a quick scene.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Great.
Was that ever a thing?
That's a good call.
I don't know.
Craig, I've never experienced that, but I bet it's a thing.
It's a good idea.
surprising, you know, when they get...
The only problem with that is,
is you need two hands to do that.
Yeah, that kind of defeats the purpose.
You could probably figure out a one.
There's our answer right now.
Yeah.
It doesn't exist.
What are those called?
Flip books?
What are those called?
Yeah, flip books.
In Robin Hood, men and tights,
there's like a blind guy and he's using, like,
Blankin tablet that...
It's incredible movie.
Like a thing where he's like braille pornography.
I don't know.
That movie is unbelievable.
Hey Blinken.
Do you say A. Blinken?
I don't know why.
I think that's the funniest fucking joke.
Hey, Blinken.
Oh my God.
All right.
Okay.
So there's your fantasy court.
We'll be the board.
But yeah,
if you're wondering about that same thing,
just either like rob him blind or get him to like it,
but don't waffle in the middle.
A couple emails here.
Bleep alternatives.
We ask for things.
Wait, who's this from?
Oh, sorry, David.
Some people suggest to this
The conversations
We were gonna be like
What should we do instead of a bleat noise
Because pleaps are kind of annoying
We're not bleep stuff
David a couple of others emailed us
The search is over
We found it
David says your bleep option
Should be the timeless
Gus Johnson Jack Sawyer
Interception clip
And every time you say something
It's like Jack Sawyer
Intercept
That should be our bleat
That should be our bleat
It's just kind of long
But yeah
It's arguably more obnoxious
that a bleep noise.
What about a Mike Green?
Bang!
Oh, I thought you guys would love that.
The other option someone sent in then was I'm trying to remember, oh, damn, I just kind of read that first.
I'm like, well, that's it.
I guess it occurred to me.
You guys wouldn't want that.
Well.
Or we could do a straw.
That's a guy.
It's got to be one word.
High Fitzman pronouncing maestro was a suggestion.
Maestro.
Myestro.
Whatever.
I still look at it.
don't know. Play calling
Maestro.
Tony Romo
bizarre sounds he makes during the game that aren't words.
It was a good one.
The gong.
Anyway, okay, I guess
these aren't as funny. Colonsworth just
moan. Yeah, Collinsworth just sounds from
broadcast is pretty funny. That's actually pretty good.
My, look.
Yeah.
That's pretty good.
Oh. Okay.
Got an email here from.
Mike, I like Spencer Rattler,
but he's good. This guy.
My Spitzer Rattler's got some huge
I love it like during the middle
of a play he goes
When Lamar is scrambling around
He's like
Oh ha
Oh
All right
Every Sunday night game
By the way is a game that Chris Collins
Was says
Have you ever seen a game like this?
I have never seen
How does he get himself
Into such a good mood
Every fucking game?
Probably a million dollars a week
We'll do it
That yeah
I mean that's true
I got a story here
About a bachelor party
when we go out and just bring in Genzi spelling me.
What do you want to do?
How good is this story?
It's pretty good.
Oh, it's here.
This is from Matthias.
Matias.
Matias?
Matias.
Matias.
Mattias.
So, Matias says, I am a Packers fan from Paraguay.
And I swear this is a true story,
which is usually at the best emails begin.
None of my friends are football fans.
You can just read this.
It's fine.
He says, I went to my, and again,
the story is because I went to about,
party of the weekend and pulled my hamstring because my stupid friend Mike made me run 100 meter dash.
So Matias writes, I went to my best friend's bachelor party and we did what we usually do here in Paraguay for these kinds of events.
One of the guys from the friend group had a barbecue at his house. And then we went to a strip club.
So pretty standard.
That's also what we do here.
So Matias writes, I don't drink alcohol. It's not like religion or anything like that. I just don't like drinking.
So I'm usually the designated driver of the friend group and I was driving us that night.
I'm not a strip club expert,
but even I could tell that the strip club
sounded kind of shady throughout the day.
You could only get,
so they're at the barbecue guest
and he's realizing you could only get to the strip club
if you had a previously appointed reservation,
like an appointment.
Which is odd.
Red flag.
And he says only one of our friends knew
where the strip club was located.
So he's just giving me directions while I'm driving.
Off the map.
Yes.
Okay.
And we're getting close to the place.
and one of the guys from the friend group, let's call him Michael,
starts telling us about how he actually knows this neighborhood
because this is where his grandma used to live.
Oh, sweet Christ.
And I have to drive around for 10 more minutes.
Don't say it.
We finally get to the strip club.
And it turns out the strip club is not near Michael's grandmother's house.
The strip club is Michael's grandmother's house.
What?
She's running a strip club or is she participating in the strip club?
Yeah.
That's what I thought of
It's like that strip club in Atlanta
Where it's older women
Doing the majority of the stripping
So Matanus writes
I will never forget my entire life
The shock on Michael's face
We get into the house
And this stripper walks down this long staircase
Into the backyard to welcome us
And Michael turns to me and says
That his uncle used to walk down
That same staircase
And Christmas dressed in Santa Claus
So
So this
So this other friend knew about this strip club.
I think the grandparents.
That was Michael's grandmother's house.
I think the grandparents passed and whoever bought it made it a strip club.
And then he showed up for the strippers at his grandmother's house.
Which isn't as funny as if the grandmother was a madame.
Right.
Or whatever.
This sounds like it just a funny dream someone had.
Like I dreamt that.
My grandma's house was a strip club.
Yeah.
I'm not trying to have a good time at your kitchen table.
You know how you still have
This is always weird to me
Like I always have dreams in my dreams
I'm at my old house where I grew up
Do you guys ever have that?
Instead of like my current house
I'm always in my old houses
Sometimes not anything consistent like that
I think it's so bizarre
And it's a strip club and it's weird
Oh
Anyway he stayed for five hours and got sick
Yeah that's crazy
That is unbelievable
Also I didn't even really realize that
Is it so it was a it was a strip club
It was like an underground strip club?
Or was it like a something?
Bordello.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Lost in translation, Craig.
I didn't know there were houses that could be strip clubs.
Oh.
I'll have to look into that.
Yes, honey, just go to my buddy's house.
Here's the address.
Nothing shady about this.
See, it's an address of a house.
It's perfect, actually, for these days, these times when everyone gets tracked everywhere.
Find my friends era.
That is the act.
I do think find my friends is the biggest difference that our generation has
versus older ones.
Like, you know what?
Honestly,
the older people listening,
you can call it
Craig and I's generation
fucking snowflakes.
You motherfuckers were never
tracked everywhere you went.
Ever.
Don Draper could never survive today.
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Terms, restrictions, and embargo supply, commercial use excluded. I want to bring in Kai for the
Genzi Spelling Bee, which is something we've been trying to do for, God, I don't know, months.
Kyle, look at this hero.
How's it going?
How are y'all?
So, uh, are you, are you in studio, Kai right now?
Yeah.
In LA.
Yeah.
Nice, yeah.
Nice setup.
Yeah.
No, this is my home.
This is this.
This is KG.
Cai's newly moved to LA.
Yeah.
Look at you, Kai.
Hell yeah, man.
So, I'm back.
We're going to do, Kai, we actually have been people emailing us asking where you are.
So this is thrilling.
Um, we're going to do something.
Yeah, I'm alive.
Fun called the Genzy spelling bee.
and just to get out of him.
It's not literally a spelling bee.
D.K.
is not going to spell anything.
But Kai is going to introduce some Gen Z slang
because I think we've all felt a little out of touch
with what the kids are saying.
Because Kai,
you are smack dab in the middle of Gen Z.
How old are you?
So I'm 26 years old coming up on 27.
So very washed.
You know.
Admittedly, this is a lot of Gen A slang.
Like, I'm Gen Z.
Oh.
But Gen A is like even, you know.
Well, so it's not called you.
It's the same as Jen Z.
Gen Alpha.
They're gen beta.
They're not getting, they have to earn the alpha title.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
So, but.
Okay, so explain to me how this is going to work.
Is Hypatin Kai, you guys have been planning this.
How does this work?
I think Hyatt's correct me if I'm wrong, but I have a series of words and sentences.
I'll start with the word, see if DK just like can get it off the rip.
And then if he can't, I'll provide the sentence.
And then we'll go for them.
Yeah.
So the goal for me is to figure out what the fuck these things say.
Yeah.
So, D.K, it's not actually spelling me.
DK has to guess what this word means.
And then Kai will tell them.
And if not, like a spelling bee, DK can say,
can you use it in a sentence, please.
Yes.
And I scoured the internet for these sentences.
So these are not mine.
These are real sizes.
It's kind of like how I found in the word.
How many of these words did you already know?
That's a great question.
How many of these do you use in your everyday life?
I mean,
very, very slim.
A few.
But they're used, though.
These are,
I've seen.
Once he pointed them out to me,
I've seen them.
They're not like random.
Someone made it one.
There are words that,
Once I search them, I'm like, oh my God, these are really being used.
Like, I used one.
When you guys, when we were on LA a couple weeks ago,
Kai used one and I won't say it because maybe he'll bring it back up.
The one that starts with the B, BB.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good one.
So I don't have that on the list, but that could be maybe,
see how this goes.
I also think, D.K. already knows.
Craig, if you or I don't know them, I think we can join.
But if we do know them, let's not say with the definition.
I remember which one you're doing.
It was big back?
What is it?
Is it big bag or big back?
No, it's big back.
I actually don't have that.
I still like, for example, when we're in the office, we're all there in a meeting, talking, whatever.
And I was just like ordering Panda Express and thinking about Panda Express.
And I was like, hey, not to be big back.
But if anyone else wants to Panda Express, I'm going to order some.
You'll turn to shock.
I would never have gotten in a million years.
All right.
Let's let's do this.
Yeah.
Yeah, let's do it.
So without further due, give them the word.
And then, D.K., you're going to guess.
And then you'll get a little help.
I would like to state, first of all, I think I know a good deal of them.
And I'm still going to be terrible at this.
Like I would say for people who are 43, I'm probably in the upper percentile of how much Gen Z slang I know.
But this is a bold proclamation.
But I'm also a total boomer.
So I honestly hope you get these.
It would be funnier.
I don't think I'm good enough.
Or dig if you need help, request it in a sentence.
Clanker.
Oh, yeah.
I know clanker.
Clanker.
I haven't heard this one.
I fucking love clanker.
Clanker is like the funniest thing I never heard.
When I first saw it, I just like, I lost it.
Clanker.
when we're in the clanker war and I come across Wally
fuck
come on
and it's like this is like I'm sad that this is happening
like we're in the clanker war and I just like
I run into Wally and I got to just
got to take them out
DK one day there's a chance that your son dates a clanker
and that would be a nightmare
Is that a robot?
It's like a robot slur
it's a derogatory term for basically like AI
It's all those Boston robotics videos
of like they can do like jujitsu now and backflips.
It's like people call them clankers.
It's so fucking in 20 years it's going to be like actually you can't say clanker.
Yeah, it's legit slur.
There's a bunch of other robots.
Clinker.
I think you just need one.
Oh my God.
You did you tell me that my son might be dating a clanker.
You can't call her that dad.
Yeah.
Dad, we don't say that anymore.
A clinker.
Oh, God.
Yeah,
clinker's really good.
People will just like record.
You are not bringing home a clanker.
Not under my roof.
When you're 18,
you can date a clanker.
You can go out to the world.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, it was something that immediately was just like,
all right,
this is going to get taken way too far.
Clanker is also.
It's the perfect word.
When we were doing this,
it sounds like a little.
When you search clanker on social media,
the funniest shit pops up.
Yeah, there's some great sentences out there.
That's really funny.
You wouldn't get in a Waymo and you're like, because you hate clenkers.
I'm not getting into that clinker.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
You see a Waymo you're like, I was getting that.
By the way, for the record, I don't know if we talked about this.
Craig made me take a, or he tricked me into doing a Waymo and it was terrifying.
To doing a Waymo.
That's why we did the Genzi's spelling.
Taking a Waymo.
What's the very?
All right.
Incredible job.
Yeah.
I have several more.
Let's go.
You just tell me when to stop.
Keep going.
Please keep going.
Okay.
I'm going to give you two words here.
It's a compound sentence here.
Chopped is one word.
Okay.
So start thinking.
And then Unk is another word.
Okay.
So Unk is just like an old guy.
Yeah.
Unk's like uncle.
Yeah.
I've seen this used like,
Unk was on one or something like that.
You know,
like they're talking about like some old fogey, as you will.
One of the funniest things too is like on TikTok,
if there's like an older guy.
and he's just doing something crazy.
Like there was some video where this guy had like a doctor pepper in a McGrittle.
And it was just like a vibe at like eight in the morning.
And he's like, all right, Unk, I see you.
I see people refer to LeBron as Unk.
Yeah, LeBron's definitely Unk.
Honestly, when I turn 27, I'll be on.
Oh, unfortunate.
What was the other one?
Chopped.
Chopped.
Well, I know the cooking show chopped.
Yeah, it's not that.
I don't know that one.
Okay, I'll use it in a sentence.
just found out I'm chopped and also unk.
Chopped is like washed?
No, it's ugly.
Chapped.
Oh, that's really good.
This guy, I think he was like a substitute teacher or something.
He was like, a kid told me just found out I'm chopped and also chopped.
I really want to know the etymology of where chopped gave it.
That's really funny.
Chopped is good.
It took me a while to like figure out what chopped was actually.
I really, dude, I've never heard this before.
I really love slang a lot of times.
Sometimes it's terrible, but that's a really good one.
Yeah, there's some good stuff.
I'm chopped.
Feed us, Kai.
Okay.
It's my first time cracking.
So I put on my meta glasses to FT, my experienced HB, and he starts giving me
phenomenal comms.
That's just, there's several words in there, so I didn't get it.
Okay.
Honestly, go on what you can fix that sentence means.
Okay, start over.
I want to take it one.
Translate.
I got a really thoughtful.
It's my first time cracking.
Okay.
Cracking.
So I put on my meta glasses to FT, my experienced HB.
FaceTime?
Yeah.
My experienced.
Don't know what HB is.
Is it?
I don't know.
And he starts giving me phenomenal comms.
My experienced HB?
You said HOME.
Isn't that it?
Yeah, HB.
My experience.
No, no, D.K. said home boy.
I'll give him that.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
FaceTime your homeboy.
Got the middle one.
Got the middle part.
Yeah.
And he's giving me phenomenal comms.
Yeah.
I'm assuming it's just communication.
Call out.
He's like gassing me up.
Yeah.
Well, give me the right things to do, let's say.
Okay.
Oh, so like, he's on his meta glasses and he's kind of like calling the play like in the helmet kind of deal,
telling him what to do?
Yes.
Yes.
So now.
Oh my God.
What cracking is.
So is this like where you go on a date and have your friends sort of like listen and watch?
You're close.
What could happen after the date?
Or fucking. Yeah, there you go.
Jesus.
Christ.
What are the kids doing these days?
So innocent.
Is it when you're on a deep?
Are these kids going in to call on a young lady?
He's Bridgeton.
Yeah.
Jesus.
Okay.
So they're telling him things to do whilst fucking.
Okay.
Yeah.
Giving me phenomenal cons.
Okay, now I know why you say my experienced HB.
Cracking with someone chops.
It's all coming together.
It was so funny, too, because it was like a video of Tom Holland from the Spider-Man movie,
and he puts on those special glasses that he just like sees the world.
And it's like sped up and it's insane.
Now I forgot already.
What is the term for when you have people helping you while having sex?
Phenomenal comms?
No, it was the first word.
Cracket.
Cracking.
Oh, that's just sex.
Yeah.
Like someone got cracked, you know.
Got it.
I thought cracking was specifically where you have someone on the line.
So it would be rare for somebody who is chopped to crack.
Absolutely.
Nailed it.
Cracking.
You could say that.
I'm cracking.
That's pretty good.
Cracking?
Yeah, cracking's good.
Cracking and chopped are my two favorites.
Cracking a clanker?
It's been cracking clanks.
Sometimes, yeah, sometimes you have.
Sometimes you have a little faith in the next generation.
I don't know.
The clankers have phenomenal comms, though.
Also, that feels very illegal what you just described.
Yeah, definitely.
You're kidding me?
We don't condone that.
It's horrible.
A lot of these sentences are-
Giving me incredible comms.
This is like gamer.
These are not things that I do.
I am just the messenger.
I want everyone to know that.
Dude, that was really fun.
Let's do this again.
Fuck that.
Running out here.
Whatever, man.
Running out of your guys.
There's a lot of nonsense out there.
I do have an.
at my sleeve, but, you know, save that for later.
You do?
Doing tricks on it?
Like, it's nonsense, though.
Doing tricks on it is good.
D.K., do we want to explain that really quickly?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wait, was this on the show that we, that I did this?
This was definitely on the call.
It's definitely not on.
Yeah, so it was something about,
was it, we were talking about LeBron?
I forgot the context.
We probably don't want to say the context we were discussing it.
I don't remember the context.
It's basically just like if someone is glazing a little too hard,
we all know what glazing as we've gone over that.
Right, right.
That's yesterday slang.
You know what I mean?
It's like when glazing.
It's like glazing.
Glazing maxing.
Yeah.
As the kids say.
So if you're like, yeah, he's just doing tricks on it.
Like, don't worry about it.
He's just doing tricks on it.
I think that's actually my favorite one.
Clanker.
Don't forget about falling down to your knees in a Walmart.
We're all going to be doing tricks on the clankers.
Hopefully the clankers doing tricks on us.
Jesus.
That's what we're supposed.
to be. Yeah.
Oh my God. All right. Thank you. Thank you.
My son's not dating any clanker.
Thank you, Kai, for doing the jenzy spelling me. Oh, my God.
Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Ron. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, everybody for listening.
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Fogie or whatever that. I don't know what any of those words be.
They did they didn't know the term.
Fogie, an old foge.
I don't even know that either.
I have no idea what you're talking.
Just saying it's very well known.
I don't know.
Amongst my generation.
Gen X's going to be brands that are gone.
I don't know.
Email us, whatever.
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Thank you Lord.
Lord.
Thank you, Michael Jackson.
What was he doing again?
Lulu, what was it?
Uh,
with a blue, blue, blue,
loo and a glam bot?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Clan bot.
Hi, Vince.
My buddy just texted me.
He asked ChatGPT,
did plants at Home Depot make more money than LVMH?
And he said the answer.
Just Chad GPD says no.
Well, I'll pull up the article where I shot it.
Well, Chad GPT is never wrong.
So, no.
It says that LVMH's revenue was $84 billion and that plants made 20 billion.
Oh.
Well.
Sorry.
A lot of misinformation on this podcast here.
Regardless, plants at Home Depot made $20 billion.
That's higher than anyone would have been taught.
That's the point, really.
Yeah.
I have bought plants at Home Depot before.
Have you bought anything from LVMH?
But I also buy plants.
I don't even know what that is.
I also buy plants at our local plants store too to support the local economy.
LVMH is a conglomerate that owns like Louis Vuitton.
It's all the fashion luxury brands are under like a parent company.
Like it's like they're richer than God.
Right.
It's pretty crazy.
They're also,
oh,
wait, no, that's Arnold.
That reminds the car people.
It's the real succession family
where Arnold's like,
quietly one of the five richest people
in the world and like,
Arnold is the CEO of the only.
Oh yeah,
wait,
sorry, no,
I'm good,
yeah,
that company is the real succession
that actually is happening
along with the Murdox.
They're like,
there's five kids and so,
and they don't know who's going to run what.
The Murdox just settled.
The kids took their money.
They're out.
Yeah.
Now it's Lockland,
who's next in line.
The other three kids took the money.
They got like a billion dollars.
You know what's crazy though?
Lachlan, one of his kids who would run it next is trying to marry a clanker.
And somehow I'm like Keelio, it feels like I'm going to get canceled for like saying.
You will be by counting in 15 years.
Yeah, they're going to pull this fucking clank.
You guys ever wonder if like, you know what's so funny.
It always set the matrix all the stuff.
It never felt real.
But when I, we see everything happening, I feel like I'm looking into two rooms in a, in a, in a, in a, a, in a, you know, it's a, you know, it's a, you know, it's a, you know, it's, it.
I'm at a house and one room's on fire
and the other's just full of like oxygen tanks and I'm like
I just see all this AI happening over here
and I see all these videos of Boston robotics
10 foot tall people learning to fucking kickbox
on the other hand and I'm like isn't the easiest
thing ever for the AI to just run the
like I this actually I'm actually
for the first time ever actually afraid of this
and we're just going to just subscribe all these videos
and they're going to be like anyone who ever said clanker is going to get
murdered this is why one day we're all
just going to live in a remote cabin
and have a little recording studio, and that's our life.
Yeah.
We'll just do that.
I for one, welcome our clanker overlords.
Yes.
Thank you, clanker overlords.
I should have thanked them for, um, that.
I say thank you to my wemos out loud, verbally as I get out of the car.
I think chat CTP2.
Because one day when they take over and kill everybody, maybe they'll spare.
When I use chat, cheap T, I write, please.
I do too.
Thank you.
I do too.
As opposed to the way you talk to Google, which is just like,
DKB, I'm like, how old are my?
Yeah
Why does she smell?
Just a D.K.
Amanda Seifred Clips.
Craig, she's in a new movie.
Did you see this?
With none other than
Oh, Sidney Sweeney.
Yes.
I mean, the amount of
Plot acting talent
in that movie is going to be
overwhelming.
Yeah.
It's also, it's like a horror movie.
I won't be watching.
it, but that's fine.
Just the clips.
Yeah.
Watching it for the plot, you know?
Right.
Fucking clankers.
Can't get over clankers.
Fucking clankers, man.
All right, goodbye, everyone.
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