The Ringer NFL Show - QB Chaos, Sad Stroud, Cheatin' Brady, Week 3 Waivers, Craig at the Emmys, and Coachella 2026

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

The guys talk about the Monday Night Football games, the flurry of QB injuries, and Brady in the Raiders coaches booth. Next, SHOWDOWN TIME! Must-add players at each position ahead of NFL Week 3. (00:00) Intro (04:07) Monday Night Football (42:59) QB Waivers: Daniel Jones (01:06:02) RB Waivers: Blake Corum, Tyler Allgeier, Bhayshul Tuten (01:18:58) WR Waivers: Troy Franklin, Wan’Dale Robinson, Cedric Tillman (01:31:25) TE Waivers: Juwan Johnson, Brenton Strange, Harold Fanin Jr. (01:39:29) D/ST Waivers: Colts, Bills, Falcons (01:40:41) Coachella Lineup Check out our 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here!  Email us! [e-mail] The all-new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hypatts and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Rolbeck, and we're going over all the must-add players. That after week two, like a sixth of the NFL's quarterbacks are just hurt. So we're actually going to start with quarterbacks on waivers. Then we'll go through running backs receivers and tight ends. But honestly, we're going to go through the Monday football games first. Raiders Chargers was kind of boring.

So we recorded during it. We'll make fun of Tom Brady. And then we'll actually go through Bucks Texans, which was fun. If you want to skip right to waivers, no hard feelings. We go through all the quarterback injuries too. and then we, the, what do we told? Craig went to the Emmys. We have not talked to Craig about the Emmys thing yet.

So we're actually going to hear for the first time what Craig told us the Emmys were like and all the cool parties and stuff. At the end of the show and then the Coachella lineup comes out at the end while we're on the show. So that was also fun. Yeah.

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a little bit. If you really want to just skip to waivers, that's totally fine. You can go to the minute marks in this episode, wherever you're watching Spotify, YouTube, Apple, whatever, and just go through there. We're going to go through the Monday and football games right now. We're recording this. The second half of Raiders charges just started, and because they decided to put this game at 10 p.m. Eastern, we're just going to do it in the middle this game. I don't know why they did that. I hope they never do it again. Hopefully they never do it again. I really hope so. Kahlil Max already I do want to talk about. That I can tell already it was going to be a story is that Tom Brady is in the coach.

is sweet with a headset on, which is a perfect mix of every now and then there's a story of something that was already public knowledge, but I think everyone's seeing it at the same time kind of made everyone collectively realized, this is kind of messed up.

Right, D.K.? Kind of. This is blatant conflict of interest. It's actually wild because here's a specific example of why it is crazy. So next week, Tom Brady is calling the Cowboys Bears game.

And so he's going to get to meet with the Bears, the coaching staff of the Bears, talk about their game plan, talk with the coaches, get all this information for the broadcast, which he's going to be doing. And then the next week, the Raiders play the Bears.

Like, he's getting all this inside information from the Bears, then he's going to take it directly and hand it to Chip Kelly. And there was someone, I don't know who it was, I apologize, how Brady meets with Chip Kelly, like,

two to three times a week. Oh, right, Peter. He was talking about how they meet, like, two to three times a week and go over game plan and stuff. So he's, like, downloading all this information that he learns from the game. He's in the booth with a headset on, like, an offensive coordinator. How is this?

How is it? How is a surprise? Letting this happen. He owns part of the team, but we just all saw it, and now no one can unsee it. That's the truth. I kind of love, do you think there's some gamesmanship here going on from ESPN trying to screw over Fox?

because they showed it on the bracket. Honestly. The NFL's Twitter account tweeted it. I just love that the first time the Raiders are on prime time, the first thing ESPN does is kind of call out this bizarre, weird conflict of interest situation with Brady. So I want to go over the actual rules that the NFL applied to the situation. And then I want to like so again, so just for those to know, Fox gave Brady a, I think it's $30 million a year, almost.

300 million. Yeah, 300 million 10 years or something like that. You never know how much money, whatever, but like a lot of, a crazy amount of money that I believe also making it even weirder. I don't want to even pretend to understand the financials of it. But that contract, I think he then took out a,

I don't know the debt, loan, whatever, but he kind of used that money to purchase his stake in the Raiders. So this isn't like theoretical. These things of him broadcasting career and Raiders, like super linked. Don't forget all the FTX commercials and everything Brady did. Like, there's a lot going on here, but they're super related, the broadcasting and the ownership.

Anyway, the rules the NFL put on him, because none of this is the thing where, like, owners having to be able to talk the games or talk about games with broadcasters, the NFL put specific rules on them. And from ESPN reported, these are the rules. Brady will not be permitted in another team's facility. Brady cannot witness team practices. Brady cannot attend broadcast production meetings either in person or virtually. These are not competitive issues, but, right. He also, Brady cannot egregiously publicly criticize officials and Brady cannot egregiously publicly criticize other teams. Did they add egregiously? Was that new?

I added egregiously because he, no, I added egregiously because there was light criticism of officials and the NFL was asked about it and they said it would have to be egregious. So I added egregious. But for those, I guess maybe we're, I guess we're technically in media and so we can know more about this. if it's not obvious, the NFL broadcasters get crazy access to the teams. And so they are privy to all this information. Like Tony Romo, no shade to Tony Romo, he's a great broadcaster. A lot of those times where he was predicting plays, it's because he was at practice. And he was like, what are you going to do on this third down?

And they fucking told him. Now, sometimes he could just look at a formation, whatever. But sometimes they just tell him what the play was going to be in a situation. Obviously, Brady, they know, I think teams know not to tell them stuff in these meetings. It's not like Ben Johnson is a moron who's telling Brady when they play the Raiders next week. So he is allowed to be in these meetings? So now, yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry.

So 2025 they tweet the rules. Brady still is not allowed to go to other teams' facilities or practices. But Brady can now attend production meetings with Fox and the other teams as long as it is off-site or virtual, which obviously- So to be clear, he can meet with coaches and players. Yeah, so you can meet the coaches and players. So you can meet the coaches and players. Now, like last week, Brady did Chief Seagulls.

The Chiefs are in the AFC West with the Raiders. Do you think Andy Reid and Patrick Holmes are sitting there talking it up with Brady about like inner workings or whatever? Right. Probably not. Like they know not to. Here's the reality, though. The question I have is, what about everyone else on the broadcast? Like, is Kevin Burkart at the Chiefs facility?

Because it's one of those things where loose lips sink ships, guys. Even just seeing how hurt certain other players are. So stupid. Like it's, and that's the thing. Brady's just looking at the note sheet of KB over there, just kind of like taking a picture of it. KB's wearing a wire.

Yeah. It's all the microphones. The idea that Brady wouldn't be there and so he will not find out anything is very funny to me. Also, it's also weird. He's going to destroy all the cell phones, by the way, each and every week after.

Yeah. This is such a great cheating scandal being baked into whatever Raiders Excessing it up. Isn't it also weird that now it's like it's the responsibility of Mahomes and A&T Reed to like make sure they prepare what they're going to bring to these meetings so they don't accidentally leak something to Tom Brady. Like that's now an added responsibility of theirs. Yeah. It's like you have to like make sure you kind of obscure your game plan enough or you're not revealing too much because Tom Brady might tell it to Chip Kelly.

Like that's so fucking weird. And this is like the World War II stuff like where they. built these armies out of wood. So, like, the enemy would think you're moving in one direction. They're going to make, like, fake plays and fake everything. Yeah, it does sound like a lot of work. I don't know how much of an advantage, but it's just a weird thing. It's just a weird thing going on.

It's such, like, nasty integrity sacrifice by the NFL just to accommodate a star. It sucks. It's lame. What also, I will say, the one thing that is that. that's nice about it is it only matters if the Raiders are good. Which right now it appears is not the case. No. We don't know. It's the third quarter and we're watching, but honestly, Brady should probably be trying harder.

Brady should be playing. They might need him to cheat. Yeah. Can he announce the game while playing? That's next. Just put up like when the golf war runs. Just put him on Mike. Yeah, just put a mic on him. Not honestly. He's already got a mic on during the game. No, that's good idea. They do that in baseball. Yeah. Guys like, hold on. Let me fill this. Let me fill this play. I love that they acknowledge that baseball is slow enough or you can just wear a mic. They screwed it up though. It's kind of like the giant,

New York did both the same way the hard knocks was too good in the offseason and this no one will overdo it again. Jazz Chisholm, I think for the Yankees was fielding and then like talking, which is, I don't know. It's a little insane that they do it. It's crazy.

It's fucking, but I have to say it's so entertaining. I actually think that's how bad the MLBPR is that the union convinced the players like, no, no, no, no. you guys are so unfamous. We need you to talk during the play. And Jazz Chisholm like screwed up a routine ground ball and like Yankees let up a run while he was on mic.

And the renouncers like didn't know what to say. And they're like, we're very close to the Yankees playing the Savannah bananas once a year. I got to tell you, I'm all about the Savannah bananas. Yeah, they're awesome. They're the Globetrotters. Like freaking pitching on stilts. I thought.

I wanted to go to one of the games like two years ago. And I was like excited to go. It was a baseball. Like obviously baseball statements. in like Nats Park, did you see. And I couldn't get a ticket. They sell out. This is like the hottest show in town.

This is two years ago, six months in advance. And I'm like, oh, I'll get in this lottery. I can't even get in the lottery. And it's cool because the owner of the Savannah Bananas is not going to sell it. And everything's pretty affordable. Like he doesn't really care about the money. He just wants the product to be great. So he says he's never going to sell them.

The tickets aren't super expensive. Like he's not really raising the prices in any way so that people can go and enjoy it. Are these guys that play on the Savannah bananas team? are they like too old to be going for the majors or are they just not not good i just think you can be incredible at baseball but like clearly not good enough for triple a but you're still amazing and it's like minor league baseball is one of the toughest jobs and like also all sports you're staying in like like backhouses of random people you're still all the physical burdens of being a professional athlete with literally almost none of the money yeah dude my buddy

when I was growing up, his family hosted Mike Hampton in his house, in their house. He was a pitcher in the majors for a. Oh, I don't know who that is. But he was pretty good for a long time. He made a friggin' bank. But yeah, and then he went to the pros, and so

that's kind of wild. Shout out to Vananis. If any players are listening, you can come on the show. I'm just making that declaration now. Anyway, we're doing the end of the show thing at the beginning, so we should probably talk about the other Monday night football game, which is the Buccaneers beat Detections 2019. I think the too long don't read is the Bucks and Baker just kind of have aura and the Texans just don't right now.

Is that light? Is that just the one sentence summary? Yes. Honestly, to me it feels like when I want the, the Bucks always, these teams are both pretty good rosters. I would say both these rosters are pretty solid, above average rosters, a ton of talent. In all the important places, except offensive line. For the Texans yet.

The Bucks always feels like the, the Bucs always feel like they're going to win the game in the end. And the Texans always feel like they're going to lose the game in the end. And that's just as simply as it is to me. I'm just like, the Texans are going to blow it and the bucks are going to come through. Every season, I feel like there's one team that has a horseshoe up its ass, and they just win all the close games. And last year it was the Chiefs and the year I think it's the box.

But I will, I think Baker might literally have a horseshoe up his ass. He kind of plays like, yeah, he kind of walks around all weird. So the Texans only move the ball basically on their first drive with, honestly, Houston had one great pass. And it was Nico's touchdown in the first drive. Houston had one great. Awesome pass. And it was Nick Chubbs,

run to score touchdown in Houston's last drive. Couldn't really move the ball in the middle. But Houston somehow ends up five points down. Sorry, five points up with two minutes left. And then Baker takes over. And honestly, it was amazing. Abuka had a terrible drop in third and ten with two minutes left, the bucks of the ball.

Game seems over. Baker somehow gets out, it's like Eli Manning, David Tyree play-esque. Baker somehow gets out of his sack, runs for fourth and ten. And then the next play, Bucky Irving, has a crazy electric catch-it run that gets them all the way to basically the red, zone, Baker's necklace broke on the play.

You got horse collar. It wasn't called. And then the Bucks had crazy horrible clock management somehow run it down to nine seconds. Doesn't matter. And then they run in the touchdown with like two seconds left. And the Bucks win the game. I have so many thoughts on Baker and the Texans. But overall, D.K., what did you think of just the Bucs offense in this game? Baker?

Well, you know, look, the Texans did almost everything right. Like you said, they were up late. They brought a, I think it was a five-man blitz in that on that fourth down. and basically had Baker dead to rights. And somehow he managed to like squeak out of the pocket and pick up a bunch of yards because everybody downfield was, was like plastered to the receiver. So there was a ton of room.

But I mean, this is like what I love so much about football. It's the teams that make the plays in the key moments are the ones that win. And they really should, the Texans should have made that play. They had him. And they let him get out. And then the bucks went and like won that game.

I think what I love about the bucks and you guys mentioned, that there's so much talent on both of these teams. But the Buccaneers, man, they have so much offensive talent. It's insane. Not talking about their offensive line because both of these teams, I think, struggled offensively with blocking and, you know, the Texans defense is really good. But Bucky Irving and Rashad White, I think Rashad White gets a bad rap because he's not

Bucky Irving. He's not nearly as good as Bucky Irving, but he's still a very good player. He had one electric run in this game, and then he scored the game-winning touchdown later. I thought he did a really good job. And then obviously Mike Kevin. still doing his thing, just ageless. You got a mecca-a-buka. Craig, did you think that was an egregious drop?

The way that Hyford said that I was like, that was a little strong. I thought it was a hard play to make. He did drop it. But I wouldn't call it like an egregious drop on that third and 10, I think it was. And then, but I mean, like, they just have such a fun offense to watch. It wasn't egregious enough where Brady's not allowed to criticize it. I would say that. Yeah, there you go.

Good point. I think Baker looked awesome in the first quarter. and then he rolled his ankle or kind of, I think, twisted his knee. I feel like we're going to find out when his injury is later. But he wasn't the other quarterbacks this week?

He was going to stay down and hold his ankle, I swear to God, and then somebody on the Texans talk shit to him and he just popped right up. Oh, that was awesome. Yeah, like that. Johnson, I think. The shit talk literally healed his ankle

in one second, and then he just started getting someone's face. I don't know if it was his quad or his knee or what, but I do think he heard it actually earlier in the game, like around the first second quarter, And actually around that time, the right tackle, speaking of names, I can't ever get right. But Luke got a key, get a key.

I can never pronounce his name right. But obviously the Buck's left tackle, Tristan Worf's is already out for the beginning of the season. And then Luke get a key, the right tackle goes out. I'm not forgetting his name right. I'm sorry, Buck's fans. But then so they had, yeah, I think it's got a key. And then so the kind of backup tackles on both sides of the ball. And to kind of hammer home what that did to the game.

Baker's average completion traveled, I think, nine yards. downfield in the first quarter. And then in the second quarter, it went two yards behind the line of scrimmage. So as some people call it, a 33 foot gap in how far his average completions went before and after the right tackle went down. So it's like the bucks just,

they were like, all right, cool, everything's going to be a screen or a run. And they did that for like the entire second quarter. And then that was really the buck's, the whole game just completely slowed down. And frankly, the Texans were completely unable to take advantage of this on offense.

The Texans should have won this game like seven different times. But Craig, the Texans' offense, they couldn't do anything. Now, this was the story with the Texans last year, and they don't look any better this year. And the offensive line is a joke.

And, you know, the two wide receivers they drafted this year are starting to look a little fucked up. And they took two of their, and three of their first five, two of their, three of their first five picks in the draft this year

were wide receivers and running backs. They had nine picks. They took one linemen. And they let go with three of them last year. And I know they were bad and it won't Laramie Tons anymore. But the offensive line is horrible. And even when there was protection,

Stroud was not good. And I think I'm honestly, I've seen a lot of the CJ Stroud and I think I'm officially out. I'm Kramer. Out on Stroud or out on the Texans office? I'm out on Stroud. I'm coming into Jerry's apartment.

I'm slamming down the money. If he ends up being a Hall of Famer, I can live with that. But if the contest, the Seinfeld contest is how long do you want to continue paying to believe in C.J. Stroud every single week?

I just don't want to keep paying. So I'm out. You talk about fantasy or him being a good quarterback in real life? Both. Oh, my good. DK, what do you think of that? No, I'm not quite there. I'm going to have patience with him.

I will say, I think the moment that Craig, I'm trying to remember the exact moment Craig decided to be out. But there was a really bad goal line series that they had where it was late in the game. They had a second and one from the one yard line. They ran the ball, got stuff. Their offensive line, they can't block. They had basically one good run, as Hife had said earlier, it was that Nick Chub touchdown.

Otherwise, they couldn't run the football. So they get stuffed on first, on second down, on third and one from the one yard line, they had like a double move play to Nico Collins in the back corner of the end zone. And instead of sort of taking a little bit off of it and giving Nico Collins a chance to catch it, Stroud just threw a fucking laser to the back corner and it just skipped off of that was on third down.

And then he did the same thing on fourth down. It was some other like fage. They went for it. They did a sprint out to the left, which is everyone's favorite thing to do. Let's just collapse the field into like a fourth of what it size should be. And then he just threw it out of the back. It was a bad throw. I don't really.

I don't. It was a bad throw. There was terrible. He was 11 for 24 today or 12 for 24. Stroud's been bad for 15 months. Yeah. I think you're right. I think you're right.

He's not playing well, but I mean, I don't know. I guess I just, when I look at the Texans offense, I mean, so that's so, that's so funny that Nick Chubb. And again, the only thing I'll say, I know you were saying that Texans receivers that they drafted were tough, but the whole game actually, the Texans should have won it in part because Jalen Noel, one of the other receivers they drafted, took a punt return almost to the house. And then funnily enough, Nick Chub has a 25-yard run, I think, for a touchdown. Before that, Nick Chub was averaging a touch over one and a half yards of carry. Right. And the Texans, I mean, we need a word now for when a quarterback is

leading the team in rushing in a game, but it's like derogatory. Like if Lamar leaves the Ravens, it's fine. But it's one of, you know, Mahomes always leads the chiefs and it's like, that's kind of fucked up. And we need a word for that. But Straub was leading the Texans and rushing. And I guess I just, when I look at this offense, I'm like, what quarterbacks have we seen have success when you actually are like grinding out

three yards of carry? Like, that's not a, Mahomes has totally warped their idea of what an offense is supposed to look like that can't run for like the, like, three yards of carry. But that's kind of where the Texans are at. That's fine. That's fine. That's going to destroy the Texans' interior line.

I don't disagree with you. And a lot of the times you need a decent roster around you. That's just like how it works. We're seeing it with the Chargers right now. Like the Chargers' offensive line is very good. But finally, there's some receivers around him. There's like a better running game around him. And lo and behold, Justin Herbert is starting to play even better,

although I always thought he's played very well. But look, I'm not saying that C.J. Stroud's like a bottom five quarterback in the league or anything close to that. I'm just no longer in the camp of I think he could be one of the guys. I don't think that anymore. I'm holding out. I don't think it's a... I guess I would put it this way.

The Texans actual starting offensive line. Their left guard is Lakin Tomlinson. D.K., he played for Seattle last year, right? He's like 33 years old. He's on his 15. DK., what was the biggest problem for Seattle last year? What was your favorite play from Lake... What was the biggest problem in Seattle last year?

Their offensive line... Cool, that's where the left guard came from. Right guard... How many teams have a good offensive line? of line anymore. Oh, I think like four. But the right guard is... This is what I was thinking during the game.

I'm like, every fucking team in the NFL's, their line sucks. This is I feel like cornerbacks, too. I'm like, I want the Texas... You watch Derek Stingley on Mike Evans, and you're like, oh my God, Derek Stingley, there's like three great cornerbacks. It's like Patrick Strait, who tweaked his ankle on Sunday. Derek Stingley is unbelievable. Like him versus Mike Evans was amazing.

But the Texans have... The very few teams have the secondary defense combo the Texans do, and that's why it's crazy to watch the Texas offense. I don't deny what you're saying at all, Craig, that the Texans offense is putrid. But again, Ed Ingram, the right guard for Houston, came from Minnesota. What is literally the biggest problem the Vikings had last year?

Their interior offensive line. Like, the Texans line was so bad that they replaced it with spare parts cast aside from other teams whose biggest problem is their offensive line. Their left tackle is a rookie second rounder, which I think has happened four times of the 21st century. I don't quote me on that,

but I tried to count off the top of my head and I couldn't get to five. even when he is kept clean in the pocket, he's not that good right now. He's just not. When he's rolling out, he doesn't make great decisions. Look, I think he's fine right now.

I don't think he's good right now, even when he's kept clean. I don't. I want to be like, you're wrong, but I also admit that it is getting further and further from, like, remembering him playing well. Yeah, that's, like,

I also have that classic. Like, I drafted him last year and he scored me. That's what it is, though. I know, but it's like when I'm fixating on him for 17 games and it's not going well, and then I'm watching him like, you know, big brother quarterbacks at midfield after they lose by 10. And then the same thing. I'm watching him with a basketball on the field before the game starts.

I'm like, grab a football. Grab a football. Put the basketball away. That is so good. It's kind of like what Baker did all the commercials for the Browns for Progressive before he's done anything. You can't play basketball on the field. until you're above 500.

That's the rule. This should be a rule. Yeah, you can't do podcasts or play basketball on the field if you're below. Is he still doing his podcast? No, I think he stopped that

because he retired it and now he's playing basketball on grass before the game starts. He was doing that when they were doing loose, Craig. It's just getting loose. He was doing that when they were doing well. I know.

Look, I like totally, I don't hate CJ Stroud at all. I just, I'm like, this guy should be better and it's annoying me. I will say the one thing I want to add to this is that it annoys me when teams, the biggest annoyance to me is when teams can't figure out the running back position. There is no easier position to evaluate than running back.

It's the easiest position to find a player. There is a surplus of running backs in the NFL. There's too many good running backs. And so if you have zero good running backs, like the, the Texan's decision was to go with Nick Chubb, who has had major reconstructive surgery on his knee like twice or three times. I can't remember. He did college and the NFL twice. Yeah, he's coming off his second knee reconstruction. It's a good way to say it. And then some, you know, a fourth rounder or whatever.

Woody marks. So Damien Pierce. Woody marks looked pretty good. And then they had, Danny Pierce is a healthy scratch. Dario Gimboale, who had a tough fumble, I think, last week. Dario Gubuwali missed two essential blocks tonight that I guess didn't totally matter. But I mean, Dario Gubalaiwali, you're kind of there to do past protection. in many ways, and he's already had a fumble and kind of got C.J. Strawn blown up and also

screwed up at what should have been a big play. How many teams have like three good run? Like a lot of teams have like their third running back. The Seahawks have this random third string running back. George Halani. The bucks have three good running back. Yeah. And then you look at teams like the Bears or the Texans who had the entire fucking off season to go get any running back that could be good. It is the best running back class in ages according to some, you know, some draft expert. Not if you're watching the game right now. Is it, yeah.

Is it really, it is probably related to again that, again, the Texans guards came from Seattle and Minnesota. Their center is hurt and their left tackle as a rookie. There's an element of the Logs joke that I love to tell

with the, Brian Regan Loggs joke where it's basically like these teams just alternate and switch off these journeymen running offensive linemen. Just like inserting new, inserting new bad journeyman

offensive linemen into the lineup and open it works. Yeah. So yeah, the Texans, not a deal. Yes. I mean, Nico Collins have a good running back. Yeah.

I mean, nothing against Nick Chub. I love him, but, you know, it's not that hard to find running backs. There's so many of them. Texans are o' and the fucking Bears are running with, you know, fucking DeAndre Swift and nobody else.

Give me one of them big ones. Give me a good running back. There's so many of them. Just before we move on, I want to just know, Texans have won the division two straight years, but they are 0 and 2. And I mean, Colts are 2 and O, no.

It's interesting. Chiefs for O and 2. Do you think it's a season from hell for the Texans or just a slow start? It's not a season from hell because the defense, and I think Stroud and Nico Collins or whatever are good enough that they can be contention. I don't think the cults are going to make the playoffs, even with Daniel Jones, being 2 and 0 or whatever. But, I mean, it's a classic.

Like someone's going to win the AFC South. I just don't think it's like a 9 or 10 win season. but I just think it's such a low ceiling on this offense, which is too bad because the defense has absolutely suitable caliber. All right, let's get to waivers. But first, I'm going to take a quick break. The Rigger Fantasy football show is brought to you by Fandall football fans. Every NFL Thursday is your chance to hit the jackpot on Fandall.

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everyone pick up, who to pick up off waivers this week. It is a shockingly important week. And so if you haven't done this before, we're going to go position by position. We're each going to give our top pick at the position from the waiver wire this week. We're going to do a little trivia tiebreaker to kind of stimulate waivers.

So if any of us pick the same player, the trivia tiebreaker will decide who gets them and then we'll just try to rank them in order for you of how we would pick the players available. And hopefully we can simulate how you should submit your waiver claims for your league. It's not that complicated. I promise you'll figure out.

As we go, email's trivia questions of ringer fantasy football, dot com. Use the subject led trivia. Make sure it's a number so we can do it in order. I will say we're changing it up this week. We're doing something we've never done. We have to start with quarterbacks. I can't remember a week that was so much clearly,

or so much clearer like quarterback was a bigger waiver need than running back, but that is so obvious this week. They're dropping like flies. Bloodbath. So we'll go through all them individually. But Joe Burrow, Jaden, Daniels, Justin Fields, J.J. McCarthy and Brock Purdy are all hurt for some amount of time. which does not even include Josh Allen bleeding from his face and going back into Bill's Jets.

So, pretty insane. Yep. A lot of toe injuries this year. Remember there was, we had mallet finger year. This is toe, toe injury. I actually spent a lot of today learning what turf toe is and trying to be able to explain it in a sentence. Isn't it just like a ligament under your toe that tears and it's really painful and hard to push off? Yeah, I could read you the whole name, but basically it's a foot injury.

It's not a toe injury. but also your big toe is way, but your big toe is like a huge part of your foot. The funniest way I heard it described. Balance and pushing off and everything. The guy who does the foot surgeries on turf toe described it as try, imagine throwing a baseball, right, with three fingers like your index,

your middle and your ring finger. Now imagine you can't use your index finger. You're trying to throw a baseball how like silly you would feel. That's what happens to your foot during turf toe. There's like kind of three tendons, I guess, in your foot. And imagine trying to change direction with like your middle and ring finger. Like, that's what's going on. It's a whole foot injury.

And the actual name of turf toe is dorsiflection, hyper extension to the halix metacifalangeal joint with the flexer halix's longest tendon in the sesamoid complex, resulting in a planter capsule lal ligamentus sprain. Can we call it mallet foot? Yeah, that's better. It's called mallet foot. Hell yeah. Someone smashed your foot with a mallet foot's good. So, yeah, we'll start there. Joe Burroughs are two and O, but at what cost?

Joe Burrow, Turftoe, out three months. Honestly, he's probably out for the season unless he has a really perfect recovery in the Bengals are in contention. The other quarterbacks that got hurt. Jaden Daniels left. He has a knee sprained in his left knee. Heard his knee against Green Bay Thursday. Washington was destroyed by Thursday in football. Jayden Daniels hurt his knee.

Austin Eckler tore his Achilles, Achilles, Eichler's offense event, hurt his quadis out for the season. Noah Brown and receiver and John Bates that tied in both injured their groins. Jonathan Jones, the quarterback heard his hamstring. That is a sixth of Washington's active roster got hurt in one game. love Thursday football. But yeah, DKFJN Daniels can't go. Marcus Mariotto will be playing on Sunday versus the Raiders. Great.

Yeah. Great. Yeah. We got Jake Browning for the Bengals. We got Marcus Mariotta. Justin Fields can cuffs versus the bills. Maybe Tyra Taylor. Tyra Taylor for the Jets.

And then J.G. McCarthy is a high ankle sprain out two to four weeks. And that was a bizarre one too because that came out on Monday. That was like very late. And there's people there's like people making the conspiracy that the Vikings are like shadow benching him and just pretending he has an angle injury. I think that's absurd. I think he's hurt. And I also think it's going to be four weeks because the Vikings schedules Bengals,

two international games, Steelers, which as a point was just saying it, we're going to be in Dublin, right? Unless Aaron Rogers gets hurt. And we see Carson Wentz. We need Aaron Rogers to be safe next week. We might have to bail if it's Carson Winston. is Mason Rudolph. I honestly think we might. But Bengals,

Week 3, Steelers in week four, those are two international games, and then Brown's week five, then the Vikings are there by in week six. J.C. McCarthy looked like ass. Why would they rushing back when you could just go to the bottom?

Well, I guess the Eagles are week seven, but still, I don't love that. But yeah, Carson Wentz playing important snaps for the Vikings is crazy. And then also this doesn't count Brock Party. We're at a shoulder in his toe.

Yep. So, yeah. Turf toe as well. Five-crop. A variant of turf toe, remember. Big turf toe. You know what's so. funny the one i guess we're just talking about it now that burrow they texted pictures of

burrow or purdys tell i forget which to dr bob anderson who's like doing all the surgeries and i'm like damn just getting quarterback feet picks for free that's crazy for that in some places tarentino's backup plan if directing didn't work out yeah okay uh with that said we're going to start with quarterback waivers here and we're going to do this we're going to try to hit one quarterback leagues first yeah and then with the scraps on the table we'll look at two quarterback leagues but we're going to showdown time and everything, which we usually don't do, but I think it's necessary this week.

So, D.K., with all that said, we're trying to just guess here on which quarterbacks are available in your leagues, but we've agreed on a list. DK, you have one of these quarterbacks. You have to replace. Who's your number one guy you're trying to add on waivers?

God, this is actually really tough. I looked at matchups. Michael Pennix has the Panthers. Aaron Rogers has the Patriots. Daniel Jones is at the Titans, which scares the crap out of me. and then Darnold, Sam Darnold is playing the Saints.

I think Daniel Jones would be sort of the obvious one. I think he's the QB3 in the NFL right now. But I don't like that matchup, and I don't think the Daniel Jones magic is going to continue all year long. Maybe it will. I'm a hater, maybe. I just don't see him. Maybe. You didn't say one nice thing about Daniel Jones in the five years,

seven years I rooted for him. Literally not one. Sorry, that just bothered it. Probably sound, that sounds about right. Yeah. I'm a hater, baby. Well, anyway, you know, I feel like I was kind of right. You actually wouldn't pick up Daniel Jones though.

I ended up being kind of right on that. But I think, I guess the obvious answer is Daniel Jones. Yeah. Well, don't let him bully you. What would you do? I'm trying to do the fiduciary duty thing. What would you do? Daniel Jones is literally the QB3 in the fantasy football right now.

No, the QB2. I would pick up the QB2. That was my answer. Yeah, probably go with Daniel Jones, even though I'm not a true believer. Yeah I went with Indiana Jones as well Hi Fitz Yeah I mean yeah he's the QB2

I just yeah yeah You're probably to pick him up It'll get like four points And you're gonna feel like an idiot But like what are you gonna do What if he scores again What if he just has the other two rushing touch that You don't take him

Has the worst quarterback had Cooler nicknames Plurral than Daniel Jones Danny Dimes in Indiana Jones I mean Oh I didn't as good as it gets I never heard the Indiana Jones one. Where have I been?

I never actually have heard that. Yeah, it's incredible. He came up with it. Yeah, that was me. Craig just invented that right there. Don't go online, but I invented that. So, we get a Daniel Jones showdown time. Yeah, baby. So we're good. We're doing all three of us, Daniel Jones? Yeah. I think

I think you have to at this point. All right. It is the Indiana Jones Showdown time. This is where we are. That gong is the best part of my week. Okay, this is from Chip, which can any of you do this, like, say, like Shannon Sharp saying skit? Chip! Chip!

My friend. I love how my kids are talking to you, Chip. I love the way to talk to you, Chip. Chip. He was a man. He had a beard. My sons are winners. Talk however they want.

The way my sons are talking to you, Chip. In honor of the arguments we had last week about time zones, Chip. writes in, what year were time zones invented? Oh, Christ. Time zones? Got to go back a bit. I'm going to be exposed as a fraud. Man.

When were time zones invented? Are we talking in the United States? I don't. I don't. I have no idea what Chips' email is going to say. Or is that perhaps too much information? I don't have clear. I'm going to be so grossly incorrect on this.

Like I, you could tell, I don't know, man, you could tell me the fucking Mayans invented it or you could be like, it was invented at 1832. Right. I have no idea. All right, shall we? I don't even want to do it. I hate this.

I, uh, do you guys, wait, hold on. Do you guys feel good about your answer? No. Hi, if it's, I wouldn't. say I feel good. No. I think I definitely feel better than you do. Okay. Okay. All right. Wait, wait. Wait. Oh, okay. Okay. Is this when they discovered that like across the country, it's dark when it's light on the other side of the country? Or is this when they officially came up with time zones? This is what I'm worried too. This is where I'm like, I have. I'm going to go out

on a limb here and I don't think it's when they discovered like. Right. I think what he's saying is the time zones we were arguing about. Okay. When was that? I mean, I mean, that's just what time zones are. Yeah. I just want to make sure. I just want to make sure. I don't know. I don't have anything beyond when were time zones invented. That was the question that was sent in. And I thought that was funny. That's the information I have. Can we go now or do you have more questions?

No, no. I'm just stalling. Three, two, one, 1830. 1825. Oh, I got, I said 1800. I feel like I'm in good shape here. I actually decided in the middle of Craig talking, I would just say that number he threw out. What did you say habits? Craig said 1832 and I just wanted to say that. No, I said 1825. But before when you were like, were they invented like 1832?

And I was like, that sounds, that's a good number. That's right. I feel like my instinct, my instinct is, and this could be completely wrong, that it's going to be like really long time ago. Oh, like the Romans? I don't think so. No, like the 1500s or something. Like, you know, because they had clocks. I don't know when.

No, I think it was, I think it required some level of like infrastructure. At the 50, they were contacting, like. Yes. Well, I just think of trade routes. I'm thinking of Europe. I'm thinking in Europe. I thought like scientific revolution perhaps, but you're right. Then I was like, oh, we're not communicating with countries globally back then and creating time zones.

I think they needed like phones, which I guess would be. Anyway, the answer is 1883, which no, actually. much later than sense. Wow. That's like when they, that's when they were sort of establishing it along international borders and things like that,

I'm sure, where it's like, you know, do you think they covered this in the show 1883 written by Taylor Sheridan? No, I'm going to say no. Probably.

I mean, I feel like there's a shot. I mean, there's definitely a shot. Look it up. Okay, so this actually is important. So I don't want to get totally derailed to him.

So I get Daniel Jones. I guess who gets, I'm actually glad. Yeah. So I'm closer. So to be clear, the other guys who are talking about here, we got Trevor Lawrence, Michael Panics of the Falcons, Gino Smith for the Raiders, playing and struggling here. I'm on into football. Aaron Rogers, I think is available.

Matt Stafford, Tua, Bryce Young, Cam Ward, like Sam Darnold. Like, there's a lot of guys. I think I'll go with, God. I think I'll go with Sam Darnold versus Saints. But here's the thing. Are you doing just this week or like you do, ideally, if you're on the fence between two matchups to the week. You do want the player who would be better longer term if you have a Joe Burrow

or you have one of these longer term injuries. I don't know. I mean, I would say next week I would do Sandowner versus the Saints. I guess season long I would consider people like Trevor Lawrence or Michael Pennex, I guess. So which one do you want me to pick? What would you do next week?

I want you to pretend you have Joe Burrow and you're out three months and are you going to pick a quarterback for this week? Are you going to pick a quarterback for like? Yeah, that's fair. All right. I'll probably take Trevor Lawrence.

D.K. Lawrence is running more. Darnold's also mobile, but I do think that's a nice tiebreaker. Like Lawrence, I know that Bengals' defense wasn't electric. But I think Lawrence is moving way more. Yeah.

I'll go with Aaron Rogers. Is he on the, he's on the dock? Wow, really? Over Sam Darnold. Yeah. I think that makes sense because the Steelers,

they can't run the ball. Rogers is going to have to throw all. the time. Craig sent a video of one of the throws Rogers made over the weekend. I forgot to bring it up. I'm like, man, that was fucking, that was a throw. He rolled out to his right, I believe, and was out on the run and then threw the ball probably 50 yards. Jeff Friarmooth, hit him in hands. I don't know if it was a drop or if it just, you couldn't come down with it or whatever. There was a flag on the play, but it was a perfect throw. And it was like a fourth play of the game. It was unbelievable. The other person that I was really tempted to do here is Matt Stafford,

who is just playing out of his mind right now, but they got the Eagles this week. Stafford is, I think, the best quarterback I've ever seen that is useless in fantasy football. I agree. Stafford can come out and have one of the best quarterback games you've ever seen and somehow have like 240 yards. Yeah, I know, but he's averaging 15 points right now,

so he's in QB21. But like, there's a lot of guys below him. But how does that help you? Sam Darnold's averaging 10 points. Yeah, but I just, I don't know. I think at that point, it's kind of like the difference between what the quarterback 21 is getting you and the quarterback 18 and the quarterback 25

is like it's kind of flat if you look at it along a curve. Well, I think and that to that point I think this is, you know, you're going to have, streaming is sometimes the best thing you can do. Yeah, that's true. In one QB leagues, just play the matchups and play the guy that you think has the best matchup. There's two quarterbacks I don't want

actually, there's a couple guys that cannot run. I guess Rogers in that group too. At least he's going to throw a time. But it's Stafford and Tua. It will not run for a touch up. down this year. And I guess the guys I'd rather have Daniel Jones. I think Trevor Lawrence, Rogers, I think is totally fair. I still believe. I was tempted to take Pennix. Penick is high. I mean, you could argue Pennix should be second after Daniel Jones. Panthers. Yeah. Penhicks with the matchup this week and little season long. Like I think

Pennix is, Pennix probably would have been my second pick because of what you said, like playing the Panthers this week and then also just, um, just season long. I do think that he's going to get better and better as the season goes. So, Phoenix has Panthers this week than commanders next week. And then other guys, Gino Smith. I know this game isn't going great. Gino just threw his third pick. That's too bad. He's aggressive, you know?

One of the picks was actually a great punt. Put him inside the five. Yeah, yeah. Bryce Young, I kind of don't want anything to do with him. Bryce Young, his center and his left guard went on injured reserve today. Robert Hunt and Austin Corbett. I have no interest in Bryce Young without an interior offensive line. I'm just going to not being that.

So I think the top tier is Daniel Jones, Michael Panics and Trevor Lawrence. probably and then it's and then it's kind of the next tier is like darnold rogers gino i don't know how you feel about russellson um yeah but no no way but do you want to get into superflex now is why you're going to strike twice that's a good little thing into superflex so if any of those quarterbacks we just named are available including stafford in the superflex league i'm sure they're not well i guess if you're in a 10 team league maybe but like they're go get those guys if you're in a superflex but we'll go through superflex and let's just assume Trevor lawrence pennix gino rogers Stafford, Tuah, Bryce Young, even Cam Ward, let's just, and Daniel and Jones, let's just assume all

those guys are gone in Superflex. Darnold, he's gone. Slim Pickens and Superflex. I mean, they are usually, because everybody is starting two quarterbacks, so 24, 20 to 24 are off the board, and most teams have a third. So it's tough. In Superflex, let's just say it's Russell Wilson, Spencer Rattler, Joe Flacko, and then all the backup quarterbacks, including Jackson Dart, DART, are available. And even then, sometimes those guys won't be there. But within that group, DK, who would you pick? We don't have to shoot out in time for this, but if you're just super flex league,

who would you pick among the backups? Mac Jones? Yeah, all the, Mac Jones too. I think I would lean Mac Jones. I'm looking at the matchups this week. Spencer Rattler plays the Seahawks. The Seahawks defense is really good.

Joe Flacco plays the Packers. Maybe the best defense in the NFL. Let's say you have Burrow and it's like a three-month issue. Probably picking up Mac Jones for, you know, the short term if he's out there. And then, you know, Browning.

I think I would just do, did we include Cam Ward? If Cam Ward's available, I would take Cam Ward for sure. Yeah. If we're not counting Cam Ward, then I won't pick him. If he's, if he's... Do we all agree on that Cam Ward? If he's available, certainly is the answer, right? Yes.

For me, personally, yes. Okay, then let's just take him out. He's probably rostered in Superficit. Yeah. God. So, D.K., you're taking Mac? I think so, yeah. Even though he probably... Purdy might be back in, like, three weeks?

Then you got a favorite. that again. I'm probably doing Spencer Rattler. I would do Rattler, too. I think Rattler is playing better than I gave him credit for. Yeah. And he's mobile. All right. I think Rattler, I don't want Russ because

the giant, like, I don't, I mean, he'll never do what he just did. That was the last great game of Russell Wilson's career. No, and look, I think that performance said way more about Dallas's defense than it said about Russell Wilson. I still, and I think Jackson Dart should be rostered. Like if he's available and you have a spot, he'll be playing.

And again, I kind of think DART is rostered in Superflex. That's the answer is honestly, I would say you take Jake Browning. Because honestly, I think Jake Browning is going to, I mean, if they're available, Spencer Rattler, Joe Flacco is fine. Russell Wilson, you can play him. Like, that's fine. But realistically, Jake Browning, I'm most confident, we'll be playing all season. And he at least has Jamar Jason T. Higgins. That's kind of nice.

Yeah, I agree. Within that, you would probably also want Jackson Dart because even if Dart's so. sucks. The rushing could be helpful. Like Jackson Dark could throw for 120 yards, but to get two rushing touchdowns pretty easily. So I would say Jake Browning Dark combo. I agree, D.K. I think every week, Mac Jones plays. Mac Jones has pretty high upside as a passer. I would just prefer guys that like have more than a month timeline. Like, Rattler theoretically is the starter for longer. Though I think there is some question that maybe if he starts to struggle to do they bring in Tyler Schock. That's totally fair. So there, there is.

is that in the back of my mind. But I will say, like, Rattler has been playing better than I think people. Yeah, you're saying it's, D.K. And I think Tarad Taylor's last, just because I kind of think Justin Fields will only miss one week, if anything. Carson Wentz, I'd actually, would you guys rat, DK, important question?

Would you rather trot out an empty roster spot or play Carson Wentz? Well, hold on. What are the odds that Kevin O'Carrow makes Carson Wentz pretty good? We actually should talk about this. Dude, that is something that people were thrown out there. This guy pretty much should. have won an MVP at one point in his career.

Number two pick in the NFL draft. Also, Bill Barnwell had an unbelievable stat about Wentz. Thank you for reminding me. The year the Eagles won that Super Bowl, Wentz was basically playing at an MVP level for 15 games. Wentz to be is in the Daniel Jones to a Marcus Mariotic group of guys who weren't the same after the injury that are never discussed in that manner. But Wentz's whole problem is just his brain, but that was Donald's problems too.

Barnwell had the stat. Wence is about to become the first quarterback in the history of the NFL to start at least one game for six different teams and six different seasons. It's in a row. Wow. Like six seasons in a row.

Eagles 2020, cults 2021, commanders 2022, Rams 2020, 23, Chiefs 2024, now Vikey's 2020-5. That's never happened, playing a game for six different teams

at quarterback six years in a row. I don't know, I actually, I think Craig's right. Dika, do you feel the way too, like that Wentz maybe won't look awful? Like maybe he actually would look averageish.

I think there is a chance that it happens. And then it creates sort of this controversy where if you play starts playing kind of well and then people are like, oh God, do we go back to McCarthy who was really struggling the last time we saw him? I mean,

honestly, if one sucks ass, they should trade for Kirkcusts. I will say, it says something. It tells you something that he has been on six teams and not stuck on any of them.

Also as a backup quarterback? And that he started the seat. Yeah. Like he just, you know, look, if you read between the lines, tough hang, maybe. Dude, what's that? Tough hang.

Like, the backup quarterback has a certain role on a team, right? He's there to mentor. He's there to, like, help the starter learn and do all that stuff. There's like, there is a certain set of responsibilities that you have to do as backup quarterback. It maybe is telling us something that he's not stuck anywhere so far. As Sean McPhase says, the we, then me, and then yet, completely unrelated to Carson Wentz. I would never say this about a player completely unrelated to the conversation, but I did just randomly think about that justified railing given's quote. You run into an asshole in the morning.

You ran into an asshole. You run into an assholes all day. Maybe you're the asshole. Right. I can't think of why, but it comes to mind. Yeah. You never know. I think it would be very interesting for content, though, if he plays well.

And then there's like a controversy on what they do next. I actually kind of want They did resurrect Sam Darnel for fuck's sake Yes he did I would I mean honestly Wence when he was healthy He was probably more talented than Sint Arnold They both went

Or not I guess Darnel went third But now I think it would be actually be Incredible And this week we have Wentz First Jake Browning The Vikings are playing the Bengals The matchup we've all been waiting for Right

And then Purdy's heard says Mac Jones again Okay so That's the order we're going with basically Yeah Rattler Browning God, what a crazy. Okay. Any of the thoughts to these quarterbacks and the injuries before we go to running back here?

Just sorry, I apologize if you're going through that right now. I have a team who has that started out with Burrow and Purdy. D.K., let me ask you a question. D.K., would you inherit Turf Toe from Joe Burrow in order for him to come back and play? Would you take his injury? Would you have his injury? Oh, it's painful, man. Sure.

You would? Yeah. Yeah. You could have... I would do that for you. No, no, no. For everyone out there. No, no, no.

You don't get the credit for it. You know, but nobody else believes you. Maybe... No, you just have... No, I want the credit. You just have a hurt foot. I want the credit. I'm saying, if you get the credit, that's sick.

No, no. You don't get the credit. But overnight, Joe Burrow, they misdiagnosed him. He's fine. And then you have turftoe for. three months, but Joe Burroughs back. That's easy. Fantasy football podcaster saves Joe Burroughs season. No, no, I'm saying he doesn't get the recognition.

I'm just saying that's what happens. If I snap my fingers, you have turf to have three months. Joe Burrow is fine. I would think about it. I have enough invested in the Baltimore, sorry, in the Bengals offense. Then he just gets destroyed by like Andrew Vincol next week. I know that he just gets hurt next week. Yeah.

Briggs his back and he's like, fuck, have turftoe out. D.K., you don't need to tell. we were just saying on the last episode. We don't sit around all day. When's the last time we ran? You need your feet for it. You don't need the toe. You're in slippers all day.

My friend. I mean, we'd have to talk about the, if it was the wrist thing, then we'd have to talk because I got to type, you know, I'm sitting here typing. Yeah, you got to type. Yeah, you got to be typing out here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

Yeah. Totally. You know, it's tough in these streets. In these dynasty fantasy streets. All right, let's do running back. We'll get to running back, but now it's time for, special part of today's episode brought to you by NFL Sunday Ticket. On YouTube TV, NFL Sunday

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Okay, let's get to running backs here. I think this is another like pretty chill week. There's no bye weeks yet. I don't want to say knock on wood what I'm thinking, but maybe teams don't need running backs. With that said, DECO's your number one running back waiver out of the way. We're all just probably going to say Dylan Samson would be our number one guy, but he's kind of rostered in two thirds of leagues now.

So I feel like you got picked up. But if he's available in your league, we'd all take Dylan Samson, right? I would also say the two Browns guys, Quinchan Judkins, Dylan Samson, yes. Judkins, I would take over. The other guys, we are ruling ineligible for this trivia showdown, Cam Scadabo and Trey Benson. All those guys, if they are available,

we would say take them over this group that we're about to get into. And that order is probably Judkins first, Scatibu, yes, Dylan Samson, Trey Benson. That's probably the order of those four. I think so, yeah. So with that said, those guys are all taken. D.K., who would you add at running back?

I'm going with Bay Shalt. Tootin of the Jags. Eight rushes for 42 yards plus two catches, 32 yards and a touchdown. He is taking over that number two spot in the Jaguar's backfield after they traded Tank Bigsby away. Showed a lot of explosiveness and tackle

breaking ability, so I like that. He's still not playing enough. I'd say this is kind of like more of a stash than a must start right away. But I want Tootin on as many teams as I can get because if ETN either gets hurt or if they start to like get closer to

50-50 share here. I think he's going to have some value. So he's the guy that we all loved coming out of the draft, super explosive, ran like a 4-3, you know, and he has the juice, and he has a real opportunity here

to get some more run as the year goes along. So, and again, it's like everyone's kind of comparing him last year to like the Bucky Irving with, with Liam Cohen and hopefully we start to work his way in a lot more. Honestly, it's way more in common with Devani Chan than Bucky Irving. And that's,

I 100% agree though. I think for that reason alone, like I think you have to add him, just even if there's a 12% chance that Tutin is discounted Devonation. Yeah, look, he played 25% of the snaps last week, but he had 10 touches while playing only 18 snaps, 10 touches.

I just think he's good. I think he passes the I test. He's electric. He had a touchdown last week. He made a guy miss on a screen pass. I agree. I think more season long than anything. If you really needed a guy only for next week,

which Hyvitz pointed out, you probably don't. Like Tyler Alger, maybe, because the Falcons are playing Carolina. If they're up big, that's when Algeria gets involved. He was great on Sunday night football. So, again, I don't know what that scenario would be. Maybe if you have Omerian Hampton who just fumbled for the Chargers and they're going to bench him for next week, you would want Tyler Alger, but in general, basal-tuton's probably the play.

Tudin is just as good of an option to score touchdown next week, but I think the season-long upside is way better. So, yeah, I think the Bachel-Tuton, show-down time better. Sorry, show-to-time baby. It is the... Bacial. Bachel-Tooten. Routing for Tooten. Dought-Tooten.

Show-down-time. Let's do it. Okay. No more time zones, please. If it's the way you're acting of the gong was just like... I love the gong, man. I love the gong. Like, he played the fucking gong again.

Shut that gong up. Somebody shut that gong up. That's Jackie every night. It was like... Oh, shit. I forgot the four bats! Oh, you're like Dr. Evil. Scott!

I love, no, I love the Kong, man. It's the only time my mind quits. Okay. I know we're going long. We can't rush this. I think this is one of my favorite questions we've had in years. Oh, boy. This is from S. Bone.

Esbone. Who says, long-time listener in Bellingham, Washington native. Oh, hell yeah. One of those rare things I've never thought about. Wait, do I know this person? What's their full name? You want me to read their full name on this podcast? You can tell me later.

Do it and we'll bleep it if it's a problem. Okay. You guys hate what I say to bleep stuff. Want me to read it? We should do a different sound for a bleep like a little horn honking. Like, who want me to read? Okay. Oh, right.

I don't have their name. I have, they didn't write their name. Rit-Rop. Yeah, we should do that. Email us at ringerfinacy football at g-mail.com if you have a better idea of what a bleep should be on the show. That's a great call. Bleep replacement. I don't, they didn't list their name.

I just have, are you going to bleep this? Oh, what, we'll let. Hence why I put S-bone. Yeah, okay. Okay, thanks. Anyway. Don't know. S-bone asks, how many colors are there?

God damn it. Is there like an official book of colors? I have no idea. But man, did I, did I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, act, my mind went spinning, trying to think of how to even answer this question. How many colors are there? What's a color? I don't know.

like is periwinkle a color so i i haven't i promise you guys haven't is that count but i've been thinking about it and i guess the way colors work is technically there's a spectrum of light right of which the human eye can see a rate like a portion of that spectrum okay i don't know is any combination is like every little tick on that scale to a thousand like a fucking color well that is the like is teal and aquamarine and forest green. Like, are those all

different colors? I think you have to, because if not, the answer's like three, right? But even then, that's just a human eye. I do. It's IGBiv, right? It's, what is that? Seven? Seven? Well, No, I'm assuming they're, you know, well, there's, humans have three cones

of vision, and I think all the colors we see are going, we're going to, we're going to fly. We gotta just throw out a number. Mantership of 16. whatever. All right. I stopped thinking about three cones after the draft. Okay. Okay.

Three, two, one. $2.5. $250,000. What'd you say? You said $2.000. I said a trillion. Have you ever been to Home Depot and seen the swatches? You think there's only $2.85.

Home Depot is 200 kinds of gray. What's the answer? I said $250,000. You said just paint your walls? Yeah, trillion is probably wrong. But didn't you just paint your walls? I was thinking about like, I actually was wondering about fact

like if 16 times you know what I probably I probably fucked it up this probably 200 I hope it's seven oh god he didn't include the answer how many colors are there we got to include the answer Google Gemini says 10 million

oh no the human eye can distinguish about 10 million okay which isn't really an answer Oh, someone says the number of colors is infinite. Which would be huge for my one trillion answer. I think I'm right. 10 million seems to be the answer.

I think 10 million is the human eye. Okay. Well, that's what I was trying to say when you yada yada. Humans have three cones of vision. No, I know. Butterflies have five, which is an exponential difference. Mantis shrimp has 16. So in my head, I was like, well, 16 times 15 times 14 times 13.

I don't know. I'm telling me if it's not $285. I've seen a lot of people say $10 million as the number here. I don't know. I think $250K is closer to $10 million than a trillion. Oh, by far. I don't know. Can we run the tape?

285 is closer to $10. No shit. I just want hyphids to be the third here. I see this one Reddit post where Hyvitz is sticking to this infinite thing. Everything else is 10 million. Yeah, well, Reddit can't be wrong, you know. I'm seeing, according to WikiHal, scientists estimate that there are about 10 million colors in the world. There are only seven in the rainbow, though.

Can I just say we need people to include it? American Academy of Ophthalmology, which is the best we're going to do in the Internet right now. says people can see up to 10 million colors is the thought. Yeah, yeah. That's what we've been saying. I think that's why we should go. That's not how many colors there are. Whatever, you know what?

I'll just concede. But you guys understand the point I'm trying to make. Humans see a portion of it that's pretty small. So I was trying to think about how many fucking things we can't see, which is interesting. Like, the point being radio waves are visible, but like not to us because you can't eat them. So you didn't fucking evolve to see them.

So there are things. you can't see that would have colors to other things. Yeah. Like, you know what? No, you don't give a fuck to you. Fine. Just win your little fucking trivia. You get fucking whoever, facial tootin, fine. I mean, I want bashal tutin.

Fine. Get fucking bashal tootin. Fine, Craig. Go ahead. Let me see here. Let me think. Let me take, God, it's actually brutal. I'll take Tyler Algier.

Fine, yeah, I would have done that too. Fine. I'll fucking take Kenneth Gainwell or whatever. Who won the first? first one. Haifitz did right? The time zones? Yes. Okay. Keeping track. I've never felt so right about something that was wrong that you guys, I'm not getting scored for. Are we keeping track of second and third two, Craig? Or is it just first? I'm just doing if you get the answer right, you get a point. Okay. Or if you're the closest, you get a point. I don't, if I, Hyvitz, if you want it, I don't care.

I am unable to prove this. So, like, like, I'm saying I'm Googling it and I can't even find an answer that would support me. You know, we did say that when we do this, you know, we did say that when we do this trivia thing, we want an answer that is a number. I did. And then I got... Infinite is not a number. Is that true? I guess that's true.

Numbers are approaching infinite. Yeah. Infinite is not an individual number. So perhaps this, perhaps this question is disqualified. I think we can't even say infinite, though, because it's not a number. Right. So therefore... You can't go over infinite.

If so facto, hyphus is wrong. He didn't even pick a number. Oh, I said trillion. He picked a trillion. That would definitely mean I'm closest. But the answer has to be a number is what I'm saying. Yeah, if the answer is not enough, the answer is not quantifiable.

We can't even comprehend. Okay, Mr. Time Zones were in the fucking 1500s. Get the fuck out of here. All right. I didn't say that. I know. I was talking to TK. Well, I guessed 1800.

Yeah, but you thought. All right, pal. Craig said the Mayans. All right, whatever. Wide receivers. Because I didn't know if we were discussing when they figured out that other parts of the world aren't experiencing the same sunlight as they are right now, which was probably the fucking Mayans.

All last. year, I try to get the answers ahead of time, have a system. Everyone makes fun of me for cheating. This is what it looks like when I don't fucking get the answers ahead of time. It takes forever. Yeah. Please. I'm right.

I'm fucking right. I agree. Hyfitz is right. If the answer is infinity, hyphitz is right. I agree. It's a dumb answer, but it's right. You have the highest number. I don't think infinity is the answer.

I also can't prove it, though. I don't know. Oh. this is okay wait hold on this is what i was thinking of wait can i at least actually know it i don't think 16.8 million colors because that's how many numbers that's how many colors i don't think dk is right i remember this chart from physics i don't think dk wins the point i was trying to make is that what the human i can see on the spectrum of energy is like very small super small we know we know what you're saying we can only see a very limited amount of what's actually out there i we know

that anyway all right whatever why are you saying i'm wrong then well because if we are if we are going to follow the point he's making that that there is so much more than the eye can see that there's this infinite what you know field of colors spectrum then hyphen's pick the biggest number then that's probably right so we're going back on this no i kind of patient no dk let him have it because he'll never shut up about it just let him have it Craig's playing chess not checkers think he's let him have it it's going to be week 10 he's going to be like i said a trillion and it's infinite okay fine no no i don't fucking want him no i don't fucking want him you fucking take him no take the pen take the pen i don't want to take the pen i think i think i'm giving you a point no deep your point we're forcing you to take we have to go to wide receivers i'm gonna take craig i'm gonna take blakec break i'm gonna take blakeem great cool we have to go to wide receivers yeah but yeah there's no running backs though sorry to be some whimsical but like would you guys have a wide receiver Way more than running backs.

I think, so guys that I think we have to name as too mainstream, I think, I assume, guys, we'd probably take over all everyone else. Hollywood Brown, even with the tough Chiefs game as the Eagles, I still think Hollywood Brown is the number one receiver in the Chiefs right now. And then Quentin Johnson for the Chargers are like guys that are rostered in like two-thirds of leagues that if they're available in the league, I think you should take Quentin Johnson. Clinton Johnson, once again.

Yeah. 71 yards and a touchdown. Figured it out. Craig's figuring it out. Long time Quentin Johnston Defender. I just think that he's going to have 10 touchdowns this year. And no one's going to add him because they actually had eight last year. He's a first round pick.

Like people are always quick to get on board where they're actually good. Except you, though. What do you mean? Last week, I had a whole thing about how Quentin Johnson is going to be good all year. And you're like, nah, fuck Quentin Johnson. Yeah. And I said if he's good next week, didn't I say if he's good next week? I'll come around.

That he was. He was good all year. He was good for eight straight weeks last year or something crazy. I wanted to see nine. Okay. He had eight touchdowns last week. No, he's, he's, I'll be on them now. I was, I was out on the, I wanted to believe the part of it wasn't just, it was a parlay.

Quentin Johnson being good for real and the charges actually being a passing offense. And the charges clearly are actually a team that's going to pass on first down and like actually be a real passing team. And maybe I didn't believe it last year. But I think I believe it. It's clear. Like this is Herbert's team. He has 10 touchdowns in his last 16 games. I just was dubious the offense could support more than Ladd-McConkey, especially with Keenan Allen coming on board.

And I'm like, okay. Well, unfortunately, it's not supporting Ladd-McConkey right now. It's only supporting Keenan Allen and Quentin Johnson. I didn't see that coming. Yeah. But yeah, Quentin Johnson and Hollywood Brown. So with that said, D-K, those guys are, let's say they're taking. Who would you take at receiver number one?

I feel that it's my fiduciary. Fidiciary? fiduciary. fiduciary duty to tell you Troy Franklin from the Broncos, who is now the number two receiver on the team, if not the number one receiver. No, no, no. Let me tell you. Can I finish?

Okay. I'm telling you it's my fiduciary duty to say you should probably pick up Troy Franklin. I'm not going to do that because I hate Sean Peyton. A man must have a code. He rotated the guy that gave a $92 million contract to over the offseason with Pat Bryant this last game. Cortland Sutton had one catch in this last game. And part of the reason was because he only played like 75% of snaps, which was his lowest in a very long time.

I don't what do you want me what am I what am I supposed to do with this fucking guy maybe Troy Franklin is going to be a top 24 top 12 receiver in the NFL this year maybe he'll go back to playing 47% of the snaps next week because you know what it just depends on what Sean Payton's feeling at any given time in the world so I'm not going to go to Troy Franklin but you probably should I'm saying he's probably the most likely to be good of this group. However, I don't want to shackle myself to that man. So I'm going with the Browns instead.

I'm going with Cedric Tillman, who is still out there. I think he's actually good. I think he's better than Jerry Judy. And I think this week is going to be a little bit tough because I believe they're playing the Packers. Check my math on that. I can't remember. I might be confusing it.

But he has now had eight targets and seven targets. He scored a touchdown in both of the games. This last game was a fluky touchdown. I recognize that. But I think for the most part, Flacco is going to be able to support Tillman and Judy in this offense because they throw the ball a ton. They're always going to be playing from behind. And Flacco is decisive with the football. So not the best option out there in terms of confidence, but he is the guy that I trust the most.

I think he's the actual best player on this list. I'm going with Troy Franklin. It's the right choice. It's the right choice, Craig. Frank, I, I, I think you nailed it. Because Franklin is, it seems like the number two receiver in this team. It's like, seems like Cortland Sutton's one. I think Troy Franklin is two.

And Troy Franklin did have literally his career high in snaps, routes, yards, catches, targets. He also went to college with Bo Nix, which is helpful. So there's like the built-in shower narrative. They've showered together before. To D.K.'s point, it's not just a hatred of Sean Payton. They're like, we always joke about the pass-it to the Italians offenses. Like Mike McDaniels, like, I got a great idea. give it to my three great players on offense and only them.

The Eagles were doing this last year with like A.J. Brown, Smith, Syquine, no one else gets the ball. And they, Stafford, concentrate it to their best players, always. Then there are coaches like Sean Payton who are like, why the fuck would I tell you where the ball's going? That's insane. Like, whack-a-mole. And like, this is our issue with the Packers and Matt LaFleur,

which, again, probably a better way to win football games is like, why would it be so obvious that like half, two-thirds of the ball? You know, so anyway. but I would probably also take true. I would quibble with that, but yeah. Maybe Sean Payton is giving different players opportunities each week to see who can take who can handle it. And then when he sees Troy Franklin

prove that he can handle this workload, 85% of the snaps and deliver, then he becomes a full-time player. Yeah. Again, you probably should just pick up Troy Franklin. No, but the time of thing, he had a bad game last week. I mean, he called the touchdown,

but it was total luck. But, like, the Ravens defense is amazing. Like, I think overall, I think you're right about it. Like, Tillman's going to be a very viable player all season, I think. He's better than Judy. And he plays more snaps than Judy. He sees more end zone targets than Judy. They do have the Packers this next week.

So that's a tough matchup. Then they get the Lions, Vikings, Steelers, dolphins, Patriots, some of the, you know, not the elite ones after that. I just want to take a shot that Troy Franklin becomes like a thing. Okay. I'll do Franklin, too, I think. You want to just, D.K., you join in on the Troy Franklin showdown time? I think it's the logical thing to do.

And I would say in every other scenario, if it wasn't the Broncos, I would wholeheartedly. And I liked him coming out of college, too. So, like, I think he's a good player. So, yes, I'm doing it mostly for out of principle, but I'll join in on this. All right. It is the Troy Franklin. Go Ducks. Showdown time.

Why does Hyphids eight the gong? You think I enjoy the gong? I'm in bliss. Why do you become upset? Oh, okay. What are you talking about? He loves the gong. He does.

I didn't know. I thought he hated it. He's in, he's like, that's the only time he's found peace is during the gong. It's like my, yeah. I kind of wish my whole life would just be that gong. Anyway. It could be. We talked about how I ran a bachelor party.

We did a stupid Olympics thing. It was like run a hundred yard, 100 meter dash. And I pulled my hemstring. So, Rick. Our bone. In 2021, Julie Hawkins said a new world record is the oldest person to compete in a sanctioned track and field race. How fast did the 105-year-old Julia Hawkins run the 100-meter dash? Julie Hawkins?

Julia Hawkins. Wow, that's such a good question. 105? 105 years old, sure. That's wild. Oh, shit. I'm still afraid to make this guess. every time

wait she's the only person to complete or what was it she's the fastest of what oldest oldest person in a sanctioned tracking for the race I'm just gonna I just gotta I'm kind of just gonna roll up down here yeah all right yeah

three two one a minute 50 seconds would you say DK? I said one minute I said one minute two do you want to go up or down you're smart I'll go up I guess one minute one seconds I said 50 seconds and the answer is one trillion?

Infinite? Oh my God. It's 62 seconds. Hell, you damn it. Wow, we were all very close. That's really impressive. All right, so I got Troy Franklin. Hell yeah.

That's fucking hilarious. No, you should get for you. You can take Cedric Cilbert. So, Hyphitz, you get Troy Franklin. Great. I actually think this is a decent spot to be third. I'll take Wondell Robinson. Yeah.

I don't care of their playing. the Chiefs. He's averaging 100 yards a game. You mean cheap Travis Hunter? He's just down Travis. He's put Wondell a cornerback. John's new. Honestly.

I like this one. Yeah, it's like what? Wondale Robinson could also get flagged for defensive pass interference. It's basically him, it's him and neighbors. He's running 100% of the routes, I think, 25% target rate this year. And his air yards have gone up. I think part of that is that one

really deep play. But yeah. Like two plays. Two plays. Excuse me. I'm not adding Wando Robinson this year. Don't be a hater. It's 18 targets already this year. I wish you luck and maybe I'm just super biased.

I would love nothing more than I'm wrong. The other few guys I was thinking about, the main one is once again, Elylech Iomman are on the Titans. He has one less target than Calvin Ridley through two weeks. He is the facto number two guy in this past. classic offense. And once again, they're playing Indianapolis this week, who is also kind of a tricky defense it seems this year. So Kim Ward in this offense is really getting thrown to the wolves,

but I do think eventually this stuff will start to click more and he will take off. But I think he's very good. I think, yeah, I think I'd rather have I Aminoa than Wondale. Maybe that seems insane because Wondale's had such a good game. I just still think that was just a result of the Dallas Cowboys defense is so weirdly horrific. I think they're probably the Rainbow team of the year of the Cowboys, like, just going to constantly be in shootouts and encourage teams to just throw deep on them. And they're so poor past rushing quarterbacks. I'm just not impressed.

But I think I'm in order is the kind of guy that he's a touchdown threat weekly, but also could get way better and better with Ward as the season goes. So I'd rather have him probably. I also still think Kishon Booty. He only had one catch last week, but it was an incredible touchdown. And like, Booty is still led the pay. Like, it's him, Diggs and Matt Collins are starting. He, it wasn't a great game statistically.

But I believe Bint Yankee at PFF does great breakdowns. of snaps and routes and everything. And Booty still led the Patriots and snaps and routes. He's playing all the time. He just runs more difficult routes. Matt Harmon calls him the sacrificial acts. He does a lot of it just like run deep and clear things out routes. So I think he's going to be a little bit more boom and bust.

That's probably true. I threw Romeo Dubs on here too. Same point. Same kind of thing. You know, obviously they like to rotate. So that's really annoying for fantasy. But Jane Reed is hurt. I think Dubs is going to again.

Yeah, Jane Reid broke his collarbone on what should have been a touchdown on Thursday football. It is out until November. So there could be more opportunities there for dubs. He plays the most snaps. He has the highest target rate on the team right now. Matthew Golden's been ass. And Tucker Kraft has been amazing. Yeah.

I feel like Tucker Kraft's just the number one receiver on the Packers that he plays tight end. It might be the next big tight end. Yeah. I kind of wonder if he was just like the two biggest hits at tight end so far in fantasy are Tyler Warren and Tucker Kraft. Yeah. And I feel like Tyler Warren's like draft. position just skyrocketed at the end of August and Tucker Crafts just didn't. No.

That was the rookie inflation of this year. Yeah. Other people, Calvin Austin, I think would be good if Aaron Rogers doesn't get pissed. They pissy at him from dropping the touchdown that became a pick last week. I think Isaac Tislaw is a player that like, I don't think you should play him right now, but I'd be kind of shocked if like three months for now, he's not like way larger. I don't think he picked him up right now. I think he has like two catches, but they're just both.

They're both touchdowns and I'm like, I just think they're just playing more. Don't pick him up now. But yeah, Dante and Wicks from the Dobbs. Yeah, I think those are all. guys. There's a lot of usable receivers. But yeah, I think Hollywood Brown, Quentin Johnson, Eelick, Ie, Eumner. I can, God, I always screw. Mind you O Manor. It's really hard. I don't know. Iow Manor. There's so many different ways to get it wrong. Yeah. Troy Franklin, Cedric Tillman. I think that's the top tier. I like booty too. Okay. Wando. This episode is brought to you by Hyundai.

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Kyle Pitts, would we actually take him over all these other guys if he's available? I don't think I would take him for one week over Joanne Johnson. to be honest. Yeah, that's probably true. Because he's rostered way more than Joanne Johnson, but probably Juan Johnson's a better option. Juan Johnson's playing 98% of the snaps

for the same. He's all tight ends in the NFL. And he has a 27% target rate, which is second only to Tray McBride so far. He is a big part of this offense. Obviously, he has a lot of trust for Spencer Rattler. I think they're going to be playing from behind a lot. John Johnson just might be real.

He's been around for a while, former receiver. 29. But yeah, I think he's a good player. He's not like an elite player, but he's a good player who's getting a ton of snaps and a ton of target. He was a, I believe, a receiver in college. And then he converted to that he's exactly what you want,

playing 100% of the snaps at a team that has no options. Yeah. So Juan Johnson showed out time. I think that's easy, then. Yeah. Okay. I think he went to Oregon, not Oregon State. No, I think he went to Oregon.

Well, hold on. I remember him being a duck. Could be wrong. He went. He went to Oregon. There it is. Good job, Craig. I will be doing the draft guide this year now.

All right. It is the way. In Dink's defense, he transferred from Penn State to Oregon. So he could kind of just, you know, bashed him up. He just combined the two words. He did go to Oregon and state. Oh, you know who I think I mixed him up with was Musgrave?

He went to Oregon State, I believe. No, he went to Oregon. That would be a bad. That was true. No. You went to, no, Musgrave went to Oregon State. I just thought it was. It was just

It thought it'd be funny. Anyway. So it's Joanne Johnson. Joanne Johnson's showdown time for the sex. He's just playing all the time. I like this guy. Rattler's playing all right. And the Saints run a ton of plays.

He leads all tight ends and targets as well. It is the Juan Johnson, another duck, showdown time. I need a win. I need a win here. I forgot to close my history. Give us a-

Who's winning right now? What's the tally? It's been two weeks. Are you serious? This show's going forever. We're doing this now? Okay. Never mind.

Jesus Christ. It took you longer to complain about it than he could have just said the numbers. He doesn't say, DK has three, hyvets is two. I have one, but that took too long. You know what? Fair enough. Fine. It was probably a little, yeah, you're right.

Sorry. No. Grant. G. How many countries have an ace hardware? Christ. An ace hardware? I love a hardware store.

My mom. They have hardware stores in Europe? Why wouldn't they? I'm sure they do. It'd be funny if the answer was one. That would be really funny. It crossed my mind. I guess it could be one.

I guess he would only ask us this question if it was one or like 140. It can't be a hundred and four. I mean, I guess it feels. I do love Ace hardware. They're great. Is that your hardware store go to? Yeah.

I shout out. I mean. I've never had a bad time. Is Ace Hardware and Home Depot in the same category or is Home Depot broader? Home Depot is like 25 times larger, like physically. Like, I don't even know. Home Depot is just like massive? But is Home Depot, would you consider Home Depot also a hardware store or is it just,

it's more than that? It's, I mean, yeah, it's way more than that. I mean, I bought all my plants. Dude, plants, just plants at Home Depot is a, staggeringly large business. Like larger than, they make more, plants at Home Depot made more revenue last year

than like the, what's the company that owns Airmez, the LVMH? Yeah. Plants at Home Depot made more money last year than that, the entire luxury company. That's insane.

It's, home depot is, this is Arthur Blank. He's a Home Depot guy. That's how he owns the Falcons. That's, anyway. Ace Hardware is just like, you go there and it's great.

It's just the perfect experience, but they don't have as many players. Anyway, you got mad at me for asking what the score was. Yes. Let's do this. How many countries have a day's hardware. All right. Three, two, one.

Two. Okay. I said 40. I picked a number out of thin air. What did you say? I'm going to take a risk that the joke is that there's like none. How many did you say? How many countries?

Oh. 605? Peru, Iraq, El Salvador, Haiti. So many other ones. Wow. Wow. Okay. So, what did you say?

I said six. Okay. Oh, I thought you said 60. What did you say, Craig? I said two. So Hyphids went. Okay. Highfitz, what did you guess?

40. Okay. Hyphitz gets Jawan. D.K., you are up next. I'm going to go with Harold Fanon of the Browns. Once again, investing in Browns on the Waver Wire. What could go wrong? Incredible.

This is awful. These options were, it's week three and things are miserable at tight end on the Waver Wire. I don't know. I'm looking at Brent and Strange. The Jags vibes suck. Johnny Smith is like splitting reps with Fryer moves. At this point, Kyle Pitts and Zacherts, if they're there, clearly,

but they're probably rostered. But Kyle Pitts and Zacharts are head and shoulders about the remaining guys, right? Yeah, didn't we already do that? Yeah, I was just confirming. Yes. Chetavian Sanders, Craig? No.

Oh. No. I guess I'll just go. I'm going to go with Brent and Strange. The one thing I'll say is John Smith, nine catches last two weeks, which somehow leads the Steelers. Yeah, but he doesn't, he's getting like these little,

I guess you could hope that they give him around the end zone, but he gets these like basically shuffle passes. But they're playing the Patriots this week, which Revenge Game and Aaron Rogers is the pettiest person alive. It's Johnny Smith's revenge game? Played for New England. Not last year. No, but.

Okay, yeah. I'm just, dude, I don't know, man. I don't fucking. Is it revenge if it was the team you weren't on last year? It's week two. And we're like, talk about Johnny Smith versus Jetavian. Sanders. It's not ideal. I agree. DK is probably right about you to even Sanders. I just

I think the one guy to keep in mind here, too, is just if the Titans offense ever gets rolling a little bit, Chicaquo is playing a lot of snaps, and I think he's a big part of that offense. That would be my pick after Chihuahuan Johnson and Fanon would be a Conquo.

Okay. Yeah. I did not know he was eligible, but I'll play by the rules and stick with Brent and Strange. You can pick Oconquo. That's fine. No, I won't do it. I don't think that's a great understanding of the rules. No, look. He's 31% on 9%

Hyphitz provided us today with the list of eligible tight ends of which Chigacuncle was not on the list. He omitted a concoe. So I figured he was not eligible. I actually, ironically, if you scroll up, I just literally actually read after the text I put and chika Conquo. Wow.

You had everything in these large chunks. Would you like to take it? It's totally fine if you want to take them. Um, no, I want Brenton Strange. All right. Cool. Go out and get some strange, you know. I hate that.

It's the oldest thing he says. I don't like it. It's not the oldest thing I say. That's ridiculous. Maybe it's old, but it's not the oldest thing I say. Okay. What's the oldest thing you say, Gramps? That's a self-owned.

You're like, I'm way old. I'm way little more out of touch than that. That's exactly what I'm saying. I know. What else is saying? I was being self-deprecating asshole. I don't know. I'll think of something.

We do have time for this. But it's definitely not this. Defenses, if they're available, Packers are playing Cleveland. I actually was like, no one has them. I'm like a couple of years. I'm like a couple of people done on Packers.

So Packers, if they're available, versus the Saints, I think is a great one. More realistically, or just wider available, Colts are playing Tennessee. The Colts defense has been amazing this year.

We'll see if it keeps up, a Louina Rumo there. Kim Bynum and safety is being amazing. Like versus Cam Ward, who again, Kim Ward, I like him as a player, but like one of the, things we like about young quarterbacks is being aggressive and learning to tone it down.

And yeah, it can't work and still have a ton of picks at any, pick six at any time. So I think Colts playing Tennessee. I also like Tennessee versus the Colts because I think Daniel Jones is going to come back to Earth and the Titans D line. I do like a lot. The Bills defense playing Miami on Thursday in football, dude, if the bill's available, like, dude, I, I just really think the bills have the total look onto and they just don't make them throw outside the ashes.

They don't let them, I just think Sean McDermott owns. Seems like everybody does at this point. That's fair. Falcons playing Carolina. Falcons defense was flying like the defensive ends. James Pierce. They can rush the passer now. I know the Vikings were down offensive linemen, but you know what else is?

Carolina, interior. Bryce Young's rookie season was in large part of story of Tyrese and then also like just not having an interior offensive line for a quarterback who's like 5-11. And without that, I really think anything could happen. So those are the teams that like Packers, Seahawks, Colts, Bills, Falcons, Titans. at defense. Okay. I know we've quite ran long here.

We do have a great email about a bachelor party, but I actually first, Craig, you went to the Emmys last night. And I, we actually haven't talked to you about this. And I have no idea how it went. And so you went with Matt Bellany because you host, you make the town with Matt Bellany. Yeah. And Matt Bellany, we'll just explain why the hell you went to the Emmys.

Did you have fun? I went to the Emmys. Well, Matt gets to go all the time. He's been probably 10 times to the Emmys, but he guest starred in the studio, the comedy series on Apple that Seth Rogen created this year. He was in the last two episodes, but the town is in the show as well.

Seth Rogen's character listens to the town podcast, which is a real podcast that the fictional character listens to in the studio. It's so fucking awesome, by the way. You told us this and undersold it. Matt Bellany is a literal plot point of the final two episodes. Like, they're literally running from Matt Bellany for the season finale. They're hiding for him.

For sure. Because basically the CEO of the company Griffin Mill played by Brian Cranston is incredibly high on drugs. And they don't want Matt Bellany to find out because he'll report the story. It'll be a huge deal because the company might sell.

Anyway, it's an insane last two episodes that takes place in Vegas. You should watch it. So that's why we went to the Emmys. I've obviously never been to the Emmys before. Super fun. Matt has also taken me to the Oscars before. And I got to say the Emmys, more fun.

Way, chiller. TV people. It's bigger. everyone's together. It just feels more grounded and like everyone's hanging out together and it was a blast. What else can I tell you?

I heard that Nate Burgazzi people didn't like it as much as you might think. I love Nate Burgazzi. No, yeah. I love Nate Burgundy as well. I don't think he was the best fit. And honestly, I think mainly the bit of the show, they basically, did you guys watch it all?

Were they made people try and wrap it up quickly so you could save money for the Boys and Girls Club? Yeah, it was the Boys and Girls Club. It was a funny bit and it would have been, it would have been really funny if they did it for like two speeches and got away from it, but they literally stuck with it for three hours. And it was for every second you go over 45 seconds in your acceptance speech. A thousand dollars is deducted from the donation to the girls and boys are talking away from children.

Which is really funny, but I agree. It was. But the whole point of an award show is like you want these people to come up and talk. It's like the one moment in their life that they've been working for. And you want to see these people talk about it. And instead they actually felt bad if they were running long. And so it was honestly, it was kind of a. insane miss. Like, I can't believe

that that was approved by the entire production team behind the enemies. I actually, I totally agree. It's really funny to do it like two or three times. Yes. But overall, it actually reminds me a lot of like refereeing in the NFL and rules. And like, it actually reminded me a lot of the catch rule where it's like, oh, you complain

about this one or two or three speeches that go long. And you're like, let's change the rule for everything. And you think about the two speeches that you'll cut down and you don't think about how it's going to affect the other 97% of catches or the rule would change. And it's like, oh, you didn't think about if every speech is short how all the cool moments from the award shows are people accepting awards. And you're like, damn, people got up there.

And I was like, kind of wanted to hear them talk. And then they just didn't. Like Seth Morgan kind of didn't say anything in any of the speeches. And then at the end, he was like, oh, whatever. John Oliver didn't say anything. John Oliver said nothing. He said, fuck you, Nate Bergotsie. See ya. And then walked off. It was bizarre. And it's like, all right. That's pretty funny. It is. It was really funny in the moment, but no, like basically, nobody spoke for more than 60 seconds. So. Didn't work. So otherwise. But so, so that, but it's not just that you were there because you were, you basically make the pod that is then in the show in real life with Matt Bellany, like in the name of everything. So then, but then the studio, the show, it's confusing because the studio is the name of the show. Yeah. With Seth, again, Seth Rogen. It won like, what, four awards?

Seth won best actor. The show won best comedy. it also won best writing and I think one more than I'm forgetting but yes Did you go to the parties or not? Yes, I did I went to Netflix, HBO and Apple Nice

The Apple one was lit Like they were so excited It was so cool And like being at Netflix Who they had a big day too Because adolescence swept And won a ton of awards But like you could really tell

That Netflix was like we've won awards before And Apple was like Fuck yeah dude We are here This is awesome Season one at the studio. Like people were jumping up and down with their Emmys on the dance floor.

The vibes were very good. That's amazing. Did you see Seth Rogen? I did. I chatted with him for a little bit. Him and Ike Baranholtz. That's awesome. They're great.

I don't know if you saw. Did you see at the Venice Film Festival Seth Rogen was there like taking photos in the background? Because he's like scouting for the studio season two. Oh, really? No, I do not. I'm not privy to the award circuit.

I feel like I'm very out of the loop with that. Oh, he was there. So they're most likely, I'm assuming going to do an episode where they're at the Venice Film Festival. And I hope they do something about those ridiculous standing ovations where I hope I do an entire episode. Dude, okay. Yeah. Can you, can you explain that?

I mean, I don't know the, I don't know the history. I don't know when it began, but now I know when it began. Oh, do you know the movie? No, no, no, I don't know what to begin. At Cannes in Venice, there's the, the Cannes in France and Venice and Italy, there's these two fancy film festivals. And basically now, every time a buzzy movie plays, especially when there's like a big name director who made it or there's an actor like The Rock in the Smashing Machine,

which is like the first time the Rock's going prestige, there are these ovations that take place after the movie ends, and they will literally go for like 8, 10, 12, 15 minutes of people just clapping. And then like three months later, the movie comes out and it sucks. 12 minutes of clapping. Yes, literally 12 minutes straight of clapping. DK's a history buff. You know where that started?

Is it the Nazis? Fucking Stalin. Oh, okay. Stalin had the people who sat down to applaud him first, shot once, so then everyone would fucking clap for 15 minutes after his speeches. I guess I would,

maybe I thought you were going to say Mussolini because it's in Venice. But that right? That's a dictatorship thing and then also the Venice film festival. And can. Okay, but like film festivals and dictatorships

are the people who applaud for 20. minutes in a row. Like, that's fucking weird. Yeah, literally the rock. The smashing machine, he got like a 15 minute standing ovation or whatever. That's just awkward. What do you do after like? After about 15 seconds, what do you do? Someone's going to get a heart. I actually think that's dystop. I think it's crazy to stand that. I, I, if you ask me, would you stand a clap for 20 minutes to fix Joe Burroughs

to Ruffto? I don't even know if I'd say yes. It actually is one of the most ridiculous Hollywood things that occurs. It's like a little pathetic. Standing ovations for like random movies. You're like Mission Impossible 6 and everyone's like, we should do that. You did it. You did it, Tom.

Spare me. It was really fun. I'm happy for the studio and all those guys. That shows great. All right. Because I literally almost nobody listening to the show has been to an award show. I actually think this is still really interesting. Tell us something about going to the Emmys and the stuff that you wouldn't expect.

Well, I'll tell you. It's just that when you're like at the Oscar, you're basically on it there you're on level two or three all the cool people are on level one the emmys it's big enough it's like three times the size of the Oscars and the bottom level is so big and that kind of the main bars on the bottom it's just way more accessible like you are like I was standing in line behind like Tyco White Tidi waiting to get a water like there's just people like everywhere around you it was he wasn't getting a water I assume uh he was with Rita Ora his his girlfriend and I think she was actually getting waters um

But yeah, it's just everyone's around, which is really, really cool. There's like, oh, you're like, oh, the hacks person is walking by. You're like, oh, the Hunter Schaefer's over there. It's cool. So, yeah. And thank you to everyone for listening to, I know the Sunday show was probably a little disjointed than usual. I know. Thank you guys for letting you.

Can I tell you something? If you had missed the Emmys where the studio won all the awards so you could watch that. For Falcons. Godforsaken Falcons Vikings game where there was no touchdowns for. 57 minutes. Yeah, yeah. That would have been rough. Yeah, I know.

Yeah, Colbert won Best Talk Show, which was a great moment. His speech was good. Because he got canceled, and so that was really good. Lauren Michaels won, something got to go up and speak. I was bummed because Harrison Ford

was up for Best Supporting, for shrinking, lost to this guy, Jeff Hiller. It was a huge upset. But I thought Harrison Ford was going to get on stage and be like,

this Boys and Girl Club bit sucks. I'll just pay a million dollars to stop it right now. I was hoping he would do that. And I thought somebody was going to come out and do that. Like Colbert or something. Did Rogan talk for a long time at the end? Or did he just, because every award he went up there,

I didn't realize what the bit was at first because Rogan just walked up and said nothing and left. Oh, they won directing, right. Evan and Seth one directing as well. That's crazy. No, no, all of them were short except the last one they spoke a little bit more, but no, it was not very long. Kind of ruined the show. That's so funny. Yeah, they were like, this is a show about executives.

And they're like, we love all executives. Executives are the best. It was great. Oh my God. All right. Well, that's cool. Oh, wait, guys, I have breaking news. Oh, God.

Uh-oh. What's up? The Coachella lineup has been announced. Oh, that's what an incredible. Are we going to do like two truths and all eye on this? Hold on. Wait. I also have an announcement.

Okay. I'm washed. Why? I looked up the Coachella lineup just now. And you don't know anybody? Um, I don't know. Can we talk about the headliners? Yeah, please.

I got to, so the headliners, you explain, Craig, you found it. The headliners are Sabrina Carpenter, Justin Bieber, Carol G, and I have to say there's always the fourth name now. I feel like the last three or four years is just a fourth headliner. I don't know who this person is. A, N-N-Y-M-A, anima? Okay, but I have to announce, I have no idea who Carol G is. I don't either.

I've never heard that name in my life. I don't think I'm disconnected for modern music. But I feel like if you don't know a Coachella headliner, you were officially disconnected for you. She's a Latin artist. I think I know who this is. Yeah, I saw her recently. Was she on the halftime show for the Brazil game? She was.

Okay. Okay. That makes sense. Yes. I feel officially like capital O out of touch. Yeah, capital C cooked. Hey, Sab Carr and Beebbs, though? Beaver, dude, all the jokes about Bebeard.

about Bieber. Let's fucking go. Road trip. Bieber being in his, like, racially ambiguous era where he could kind of fit in with any group of people is pretty hilarious.

Van had a whole thing about, like, that was really funny. Bieber could fit in with any group of people in America. Also, this is like one of the most poppy

Coachella's ever. Like, they've just completely dispensed with even pretending to be about rock and roll. Can I read? I'm not even making fun of these bands. I'm just like,

I'm making fun of me. Sabrina Carpenter Friday, then the other, the second line. So the second most, second most famous people, The XX. Oh, yeah.

I know the XX. It's nine inch noise. That can't be right. Disclosure. Oh, yeah. You know disclosure. Do you have no disclosure? Ethel Cain.

Turnstile's a big rock band. I don't know Ethel Cain. I don't know. I don't know. I actually have heard of Teddy Swims. I'm embarrassed. I actually have never felt worse. We got the strokes playing with beads.

We got Addison Ray, somber. we got Interpol, Sway Lee, we got Young Thug, Cascade, Iggy Pop, FK.A. Twigs. Wetleg. Wet leg. I know wet leg.

Clips has Push a T and his brother, right? Am I nuts? Hyvich, do you know who Anima is? No. Also, wait, Armin Vimburen's in the third line. Wasn't he like the biggest DJ in the world, like 10 years ago? He's the third line? with Little Sims.

Anima. I don't even know if I'm saying that right. Anima is the solo project of Matteo Milleri and Italian-American electronic music producer and DJ. Okay. Bunt. French police is a funny band name. Why am I finding it so hard to find the list?

Where is, can you send me the lineup? That's the oldest thing I've ever said. Google Coachella 2026. I did. I said Coachella lineup 2026. that I can't fucking find it. I'll send it. It's in the woods.

All right. Now I feel better about my, there we go. I feel better about my knowledge now. Nine inch noise. Oh, I'm such an idiot. God, that makes so much sense.

It's nine inch nails collaborating with a DJ named boys noise. That makes so much sense. So young thug, you know that major laser, Iggy Pop. Young thug,

you know them. Roycksov. Major laser? Yeah, I know that. used to fucking... Oh, we should... No, we should do. We should do Coachella Banda

Workplace Platform. Yeah, we should. We can already do that? I'll do with you right now. Yeah, dude. Oh, I got a couple bangers. Cuckoon... God.

Gordo. Gordo. And juiced. Cacoon, Gordo, and juiced. Juice. Juiced is spelled J-O-O-S-T. Juiced.

that one really sounds like a workplace platform but I feel like it's too on the nose so I'm going to say gordo is the platform incorrect I'll give you a second guess you asshole what was the first one again cocoon and juiced which one's like cocoon that is correct cocoon is the workplace place juiced and gordo real bands okay all right tk-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k-k. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, D.K. Thank you to Coachella. Thank you to, yeah, Seth Rogen, Melanie. Wait, also, there's something called at the very bottom, at the very bottom of the poster. It says, the bunker debut of Radiohead, Kid Amnesia.

What the fuck is going on? What does that mean? You got to go there to find out, Craig. I actually think I know more about that. The bunker debut, so you got to go into some bunker, like I'm in the show Paradise and watch Radiohead play with Kid Amnesia? What's going on? I don't know, but I bet you'll forget. What's going on? Thank you, Carlos.

Thank you, Ronick. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, everyone for listening. Emails for your fantasy football at gmail.mails, fantasy courts. Email us, all the other stuff I asked for and I don't remember. Thank you, Lord! Wait. DK., thank Radiohead.

Thank you, Radiohead. Amnesia is a, wait, so it's kid amnesia is a reissue compilation by the band Radiohead that combines their album, Kid A and Amnesiac. So it is a combination of those two albums to make Kid Amnesia. In a bunker? Perhaps down in a bunker.

Do you, I feel like you'd be a Radiohead guy? Are you not? Not like especially. I mean, I know a few of their songs. Like, creep is super iconic for my... Do you like Radiohead? Growing up? I have, like, no relationship with Radiohead

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