The Ringer NFL Show - Rules to Win Your Fantasy League (Part 1)

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

The guys revisit the lessons from last season that they vowed never to forget to establish a strict new set of rules to follow this year, loosely inspired by Christopher Nolan’s ‘Memento.’ 2:07 An overview of the lessons from last season 4:45 Take great players in great offenses 12:27 Pick the guys you want 19:02 Marie Kondo was right 28:55 Don’t trust Kyle Shanahan 34:03 Don’t shackle yourself to Sean Payton’s whims 43:10 Avoid Aaron Rodgers 46:47 Avoid toxic people and toxic situations 54:23 Take Ja’Marr Chase first 55:35 Don’t underestimate Joe Burrow (again) 1:09:30 Emails Sponsored by YahooFantasy #YahooPartner. Play now at yahoofantasy.com/promo. Getaway sales event. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Ronak Nair, Kai Grady, and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Rigger Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Highton. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Krollbeck. And today we are looking at what we learned from the 2024 season and how we should apply it to the 2025 season, a.k.a. our memento tattoos every year at the end of each season. We've all these lessons we learned, these things we do differently, regrets, 2020 hindsight vision of how we should have approached a given situation.

You can call it post-season clarity, if you will. And then by the next season, we completely forget everything we learned and we make all the same mistakes all over again. Yeah, life is nothing if you don't learn from your mistakes. And this is us reckoning with those mistakes. It's us trying to resist the training camp ebnesia that hits you every single year. When you start to see reports, oh, Sean Payton actually has a very clear wide receiver depth chart.

I believe this. That makes sense. Oh, Shanahan's injury reports. I believe those. People seem healthy. Christian McCaffrey would play tomorrow if there were a playoff game. So this episode is about reckoning with the way we felt in January last year, right after the season ended, all those raw emotions,

and now applying them to this year and seeing how we feel. All right, we're going to get into all our amnesiac reminders tattooed all over our body. But first, quick break. This episode of the Ringer Fantasy Football Show is presented by Hyundai. Get into the Hyundai Getaway Sales event and get away with a deal so right, it almost feels wrong. can get huge savings on their adventure-ready SUVs, like the Hyundai Santa Fe and Santa Fe and Santa Fe models. Orgo all-electric and choose from America's most awarded EV lineup, like the

breakthrough, Ionic 5 or Ionic 6. Visit Hyundai USA.com or call 562-3-3-3-3-4-6-0-3 for details, offers end September 2, 2025. Let's get to the lessons for next season. Again, this was inspired by the movie Memento, where the guy has amnesia and all the tattoos or tattoos. He can't remember. anything about who killed his wife. So every clue he learns, he tattoos on his body. D.K. still hasn't seen the film. I watched it. Not really necessary for

this. Also, if you watched it and forgot, that also works. It doesn't really matter. You don't really have to know anything. I understand the concept. Yeah, the concept is, uh, I, I never listened to anything I've ever said to myself. Do you remember that we did one episode where we actually recorded the episode in reverse and we ran it in reverse where we started with thinking Lauren? I don't know if that worked, but I, I respected our attempt.

Yeah, we try. confusing. It was, it sounded like a good idea when we talked about it and then we made it and that it was hit her best self. Like the show ended with, the show ended with hyvet saying, welcome to the ring with it. And then the music played, maybe we tried.

Maybe, yeah. We tried. I don't know if we got lazy. At least you tried. Got smarter. The only other thing for before we dive in. So we're recording this on Friday, August 8th.

Craig is going on vacation next week, but you're listening to it now. Where are you going, Craig? Vancouver. Canada. I'm going to Canada. Vancouver and Whistler. There you go. That'll be fun. So any crazy news that really changes these conversations if we don't address it.

It's because we recorded this Friday August 8th. But yeah, you guys are probably listening to this. DK and I had Meena Kimes on Monday to replace Craig. So we'll see if Craig earns his job back by the time he comes back. That's a tough beat. That's a tough act to follow, Mina Kimes. So let's just get into it. And I want to start.

And again, these are things that we actually recorded an episode at the end of last season. It was like, what do we want to tell ourselves next August? And we pulled up the list and we're each going to go through and look at the things we wrote down. And we're all going to decide, do I still believe this? And how do I apply this lesson to next year? Do I choose to take my own advice or not? How do I make money off of this? You know, Billy Madison, the scene when Adam Sandler's shaking the fat kid's face and he's like, that's, that's me to myself.

That's January me talking to August me. Don't take Kyle bits. Yeah, that's January me talking to August me. I want to start off with DK DK, number one lesson from last season. And please tell us where this tattoo is. This is like the, you know, the Tupac Thug Life tattoo on his stomach.

This is don't overthink this shit. Basically, I feel like every year, and we do this more than, you know, anybody, basically we overanalyze everything. We think about it too much. We do 50 episodes in the house. We have to talk about this shit for like three months before we make our drafts

and then we completely overanalyze it and miss the force for the trees. Take great players and great offenses. So last year, the obvious... We're in the fucking hot dog suit. We're like, who's overanalyzing all these players and news?

We're all trying to find who did this. D.K's like, just show up on draft day and pick the best players on the best teams. So last year, some very obvious lessons or some very obvious examples of this lesson. Zakewan Barkley. We were talking about him not getting

enough passing game work. And we forgot that he's one of the most explosive running backs we've ever seen in our life. And he's playing behind the best offensive line in the NFL in a really good offense. Jamar Chase is another example I think he could make. Derek Henry. Oh, he's 30 years old. He's starting to decline.

He's not going to be much in the passing game. Yeah, he's in an awesome offense where they block for him. And he can get going and he's going to rack up 2,000 yards and 20 touchdowns. So I think we have this analysis. where we think of reasons to not take great players. I think you can do this even in the middle and late rounds where you're just like avoiding guys for really dumb reasons. Like you want pieces of the best offenses.

This is kind of like the bottom line here. Last year that was obviously the Ravens, the Eagles, the Bengals, the Bengals was a classic example of overthinking it. I feel like, sorry, hi Fitts. What? Who find the guy who did this? Yeah, that wasn't me. You have the wrong.

man. So yeah, I think that's the bottom line. That's the rule. And let's talk about what it means for 2025 now. I generally think this is probably the best rule in fan. It's just like just the players who are good, who have always been good, who are on good teams. Sequin Barclan Eagles is a great example. I think you can apply this to elite wide receivers this year. A lot of a lot of receivers got hurt last year. A lot of elite wide receivers got hurt last year. A lot of running backs were healthy. I would say don't allow one blip to influence the way you think about elite wide receivers, which is typically the safest bet you can make in fantasy. Guys like Justin Jefferson, Nico Collins got hurt last year.

Don't let that influence anything. And even by low on other elite wide receivers that had bad situations, guys like Devonte Adams, Mike Evans is another one who got hurt, Tyree Kill, who I've been banging the drum for. All of these elite players, Devonte Adams, now on a good team and a good situation, don't overthink that stuff. Yeah, I think this, yeah, I think,

this is totally right. The other example here, I guess this is sort of like the inverse of what you do not want to do, is you draft your team. You're looking at your roster after the draft. And it's like, oh, God, I'm really betting on the Browns, the Steelers, the Colts. Okay. And whoever, you know, whatever. Sorry, Craig. Not, not Steelers are fine. Steelers are fine. And basically you look down your roster and it's like, oh, God, I am betting on all these really bad offenses to win me my league. Miserable. I'm miserable. You know what I mean? So like, think of it. Think of, you know what I mean? So like, think of, Have it in mind. Think about the teams you're betting on, like the systems, the overall environments that you're betting on. Those are the ones that are going to win you your league. So I think obviously you can take one or two guys. You know, you can't take all elite players from elite teams, obviously throughout your whole draft. So there's obviously exceptions to this, but I don't know. I just think early on this is what you want to focus on. My birthday was on Saturday, last Saturday. Oh, happy birthday.

My beloved best friend, Chris Barlow, the best man in my wedding. Great guy. Great guy. You guys have met him. Funniest guy I know. We were all Ubering home at night. Everybody had been drinking. And he and our other friend Alex decided to, they wanted to get in and out.

But it was, the line was too long. So instead, they went to a random shack burger joint. And he got a barbecue bacon cheeseburger and then got food poisoning that night. And the lesson honestly applies to what D.K. is talking about. Yeah. Only eat at the good restaurants. You know? you won't have to worry

don't go to the random burger shack at 1 a.m. Yeah, think about what you're putting into your body. Yeah. Well, I mean, don't think too much. Don't draft Cleveland Browns or you'll get the Browns. Can I have one quibble with that? How much did you guys drink?

He didn't, what do you mean? At least four years. This is like a classic, like I did seven shots and 31 years old and I'm going to blame the cheeseburger because of the whole day? No, no, no, no. He was not. He was fine.

that man has had a lot of alcohol for long enough that did not cause him to have food boy just check him I think it's a great rule I think that like when I read this re-read this rule as I was going over the list I thought to myself how a lot of smart people

also me but like that's not related to the smart people but a lot of people have Bijan Robinson the Falcons running back as the number one guy Evan Silva established the run really smart guy has Jemir Gavis as the number one guy who just spent Gretch.

Like a lot of people have Bijan one. John Hanson has Bejan 1. You know, a lot of people have Sequin 3 for all, running back because of all the risk of injuries after Sequan got almost 500 touches. And I have to tell you guys, I read this rule, DK is saying draft elite players and elite offenses. And I'm like, you know what? The dumbest person you know is going to walk into your fantasy football draft,

having done zero preparation. Wow, Seekwon's available with a fourth pick. Great. That's weird. And that guy's going to win. We're fucking late. It's almost, it's just a mini version of what we, like, overthinking Sequin this year and dropping him from like first to third or fourth is

just a smaller version of what we did last year. Yeah. Yes. You know? 100%. We're like, well, what if he gets hurt? And then meanwhile, he just isn't going to get hurt. And then he's going to be another two.

He's got 2100. He's 2100 yards this year. Yeah. So I think just to stick on this a little bit more. This year, the rule is a little bit murky. You know what I mean? Obviously, we never really know what teams are. going to be elite going into the NFL season.

I think you can kind of guess most of the time if a team has a lot of continuity. But some of the all-time great teams to stack last year, the all-time great offenses that you really wanted last year, like the Lions, the Vikings were awesome last year and they were really valuable in fantasy. You can go down the line. There's quite a few teams that, like, we're not quite sure what to make of them. The 49ers, I think the 49ers are probably going to be really good, but that's not a guarantee. But I mean, like you look at the lion's new offensive coordinator, some

changes on the offensive line. What are the vibes going to be like there? What is the play calling going to be like there? Don't really know. And then, you know, just down the line, I think it's a little bit more complicated this year than it maybe it was last year. What do we do? I'm on Rossing Brown. Well, who are the, I think who are like, let's, yeah, you take them. Yeah, you probably take them. I will say the teams that we know early. The Eagles don't overthink it, D.K. Yeah, don't overthink. I'm doing it right now. Yeah, you're always stop. over thinking. Look in the mirror.

Look in the mirror. That's what the tattoos for? What are we talking about? You literally saying what do we do with Amonro St. Brown, who's like the most consistent, deliverable player in the league with Jared Goff and a good outlet. That's really funny. Oh, my God.

You know what's funny about that? I didn't even mean to do that, but yeah. You know what's funny? Amara St. Brown got and got the wrong number, but he has the number of players taken above him in the draft literally like a memento tattoo so that he never forgets that that was Appendium. So it's a perfect player too. Okay. Next tattoo here, Craig. Where is that what is your lesson from last season you want to learn this year or remember this

year and where is this on your body? It's on my shoulder. It's like the like the I heart my mom. What is that? I love mom. Heart. With the heart in it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's like that. And this is kind of a spin off. It dovetails off DKs, but it's it's take the guys you want. So it's also good players and good teams, but it's take the guys you want. And I was honestly going to belabor another restaurant metaphor that I'll probably leave out. It's basically like order the item you want rather than a different item just because it's half off. Someone's trying to like someone's trying to convince you to do this. Like oh, I heard this is really good. I'm like no. If you want the fish and chips. I want a casidia every day. Yeah. If you want the fish and chips. Don't order the pork chops. Don't order the

pork chops. Don't order. Don't want pork chops. This is my brother. My brother's the worst order at restaurants ever because he just doesn't connect where he is and in the moment versus he's like, I should have a salad. I'm like, well, we're a cracker barrel, Michael. I don't. think you should get a fucking salad. And then he orders, he's like, I wish I got the burger. I'm like, no shit. Yeah. Read the room.

So one strategy I like, and I actually came up with it this year, and I'm going to do it this year and hope it works. I'm basically going to put a little star. I think you should create your tiers, create your rankings, bring them to your draft. Maybe a fancy football. Dot the ringer.com. Yes. Find out all the players you like.

Me personally, I honestly like most of the players between one and 25. from Sequin and Jamar Chase down to that first four quarterback group. You're not like out on anybody? I'm not out. From Jamar Chase down to like Lamar, Hurts, Jane Daniels, Josh Allen. I kind of like all 25. And then it kind of gets dicey for the middle 30, 40,

and then I like a lot of later round guys. But what I'm doing this year, as I'm just putting a little star next to around 50 to 60 guys in my top 200 that I like. And I'm like, you know what? I'm only going to draft guys with a star next to them. And if one guy is cheaper, and the other guy's a little bit more expensive

and one has the star and the other doesn't, I'm going to take the star. Yeah. I think this is, well, first of all, like the rankings or whatever you're, whatever platform you're drafting on, hopefully Yahoo, because Yahoo's the best,

has like their ADP or their rankings list and you kind of like feel really weird drafting out. Like it's like your people are going to judge you if you take a guy who's like two rounds below. Yeah, it's like we, it's a weird, you get stuck to this list that you don't even know who made it or where it's from. You know what I mean? So you get kind of like really stuck in that and you're really afraid.

I find even I find myself doing this all the time. I'm like, oh, I can't draft this guy. He's down the list so far. That would be embarrassing or whatever. I think also this rule, Craig, is really important when you're doing auction drafts because you can get sucked into, oh, this guy is going for so much cheaper than you, than he's expected to or this like sheet that I have says he should be. And then you kind of like you get into it and you end up with a player that you don't really

have that much conviction on. with auction drafts, I think it's probably best, usually, unless it's like a real value, like just have a short list of players you want to get and then go get them. You know what I mean?

Like don't spend time spending $5, $10 on some guy that you don't really have that much conviction on because you're going to end up with the team of like randoms that you weren't even planning on. Yes, there is a difference between taking a guy like James Connor who is a yearly value,

who falls in drafts because he's boring. That is not necessarily, what I'm talking about. I'm talking about if you actively don't like Michael Pittman or Brees Hall, two guys I was not into last year, two guys I drafted because they were going for $10 to $15 cheaper. And I was sitting there like, man, am I being an idiot? I have no interest in taking these guys. They do not have stars next to their names. I didn't think about them once this entire offseason. And yet, man, it seems like a pretty good deal. That is different than James Connor being a value. And every year I know he's a top 10 guy and I know he's a smart pick,

but he's boring. So there are differences there that you kind of have to be aware of. But But do not take Michael Pittman if you don't like Michael Pittman just because he's $10 to $12 cheaper. Yeah. I totally agree. I think the one thing with auction, it's a mix because you do. If you're in an auction draft, you do end up wanting to like sit there and wait for your friends that you need. You need like a parlay of when nine other people are all not paying attention at the same time and you do get a value sometimes. But I agree.

Overall, it's every I keep. I actually have a list of notes of tattoos in my phone sometimes of mistakes I made. Even in leagues I won a championship. I'm like, yeah, but you got lucky because like here's a bunch of fuck. cups you made that and every year I have like all these auction players where I'm like here's this really sick player that you didn't pay two extra dollars for so congrats of getting jk. Dobbins. You know what I mean?

The two players that add up to 12 and I'm like well I spent six on these two guys then when I cut one of them. There's nothing worse than like the post draft clarity you come home, you pull up your roster. You're like who are these people? Robert Woods. He's still in the league. I like I think that's a great example. high fits too of especially well particularly in auction leagues where you at the end like there's people

that only have like one or two dollars left and it's really kind of like depends on how you nominate a player if you can go up to two then a lot of times you're going to win that player and there's so many good players left so many times and it's so frustrating if you only have one dollar left or you can't bid on anybody because you're like oh fuck he's still out there this is an incredible value and you have like these starter level players going for a dollar or two dollars. Because he can't do that. Yeah, like what he marks to the Texan? You're like, he went for a dollar?

Yeah. So that's where you start to get this regret of like, oh, why did I spend $16 on fucking whoever? And now there's going to be someone on my bench the whole, you know, the whole league. And yeah. So this is overall a good thing. Take guys. It's funny because this actually goes back to a real life NFL thing. LaBardi always said this when he was at the ringer with us.

Where he was like scouting is not through the real life draft. Scouting is not finding players. Scouting is eliminating players. Yeah, yeah. Like, like, it's like 100 players I don't really care for.

Yeah, literally just, just you can be liberal with it. Just star like the 50 to 60 players you like you think are going to be good you would like to have on your team. And I bet you you can get like,

fill your 15 team roster with those guys. And to be clear, it's okay if you haven't been doing a ton of prep like we have and don't necessarily have those opinions. But if you really, really have strong takes, just roll. And I think the key is like don't reach.

Don't reach like four rounds. If a guy's going to be there in your, next pick that like definitely that's always i think the line like don't go and just get your favorite quarterback or whatever just in round one but you got yeah it's like a little yeah anyway that this goes right into my next role which is really similar and this one actually is it's uh it's on my knuckles and i didn't really spell it out right so i actually have two letters on each knuckles it's kind of hard to read but it's just letters on each knuckle it's it's i really it's a bit much it was plastered when i could do like multiple knuckles

You know, I know, but it's a whole sentence. I didn't think it out very well. But on my knuckles, it just says Marie Kondo was right. It's a lot. It was a terrible idea. I don't know. But anyway, I just remember the Marie Kondo is like a COVID thing, got popular, and there's a method of cleaning.

And the whole thing was she was like, here's how you get rid of the things you have. Does it spark joy? No? Get rid of it. Like, that's literally it. And I think I had this epiphany last year that, like, that is the ultimate,

it some not a total strategy but it's more than a tiebreaker in fantasy football and i think that if fantasy football has one issue it's that we almost pretend like we don't watch these players for like 200 hours a year like that you will not be on your couch for eight to 12 hours on on sunday all season and the idea like just the concept that like it's a fantasy football team i don't know about you guys when I go to my happy go more happy place my fantasy football team Josh Allen is my quarterback and the idea that breese hall would be in my football fantasy is like preposterous and so the idea that I would rank Josh Allen behind breeze hall is ridiculous and I'm just going to try to remember that this year I'm not saying you should take Josh Allen first overall in a

one quarterback league but if you don't think you'll be there with your next pick I don't care because my quarterback is Russell Wilson in real life and I would like to spend a year with Josh This is why the game was invented So we can root for other players, right? It's supposed to be fun! Yeah. Fantasy. Fantasy.

Is this player part of your fantasy? Like, ask yourself, if you're between people, ask yourself, which one of these guys do I want to watch for a hundred hours? I don't know why Breece Hall's catching strays here, but I do. I like Bruce Hall. What are you talking about? Did you watch him last year? You know what happened?

He was hurt. He was the number two pick and draft, and he was fucking terrible. No, he played the first. the whole season though. He had a knee injury. Okay, well, it was the worst of all worlds because he was hurt and played. Literally, fine. It was a disaster.

Go off on Jalen Waddle or something. Geez, leave Brees out. I didn't get Jalen Wattel's second overall. Just saying. This is like the perfect example of this rule because now Craig like literally hates Breesall. I hate Breesall. He's got no juice. This is why like,

I hate certain players. I was the first person on the planet to identify that he had an undisclosed injury. I watched him run in week two and I was like, something made right. Either this guy's genuinely not good at football or something's wrong with his legs. Something's wrong with his legs. It's true. It's actually so funny because Dekha gets mad at me so much that I love when Dika gets mad at something Craig says.

And Craig was, Dek was pissed at Craig. He was mad. Because he besmirched. I was like, you shut your mouth when you're talking to me. He really did. It was great.

And then. a nice lady. It truly was one of those things. It was in, I think it was in the same game. It was like Craig was, we were texting and Craig was like, Breast has no choose. No, I was like, I like slapped him in the face. I was like, you shut your mouth when you're talking. Hey, you get it together. And then

I think probably five minutes later, I responded, I said, oh fuck, Craig's right. He's like, he got like caught from behind on a run. I was like, oh no. What's going on with this guy? This looks like a third string running back. What is going on here? He had a knee injury.

He had a beer He's a man He had an injury But yeah Overall I just like Take players that make you happy That's my groundbreaking thing Heifitz who are the players that are landmines for you this year

In terms of like Do not spark joy whatsoever At least in the top 50 Or do you want to go the other way Who make you the most happy Let me talk about joy Let me talk about happiness now And later I'll talk about toxicity

So I want to start with happiness The guys that I look Because I think I want to add some specific names to this Some are obvious I mean the elite play players in every position running back the top 10 guys are all sick ashen gentsy a all these guys are amazing to watch derrick henry that's not news the elite receivers all the top 11 receivers to me you know 12 are amazing to watch other than that the guys quarterbacks all for honestly

top five quarterbacks jellan lamar jackson jelan hirts jane daniels that's obvious but i can't stress enough like if you haven't done that yet if you've always done late round quarterback that's probably a good fantasy strategy i will just say if you're like a browns fan and you've never i mean lamar jackson's in the division but like if you can just Sunday night football, like Bill's Ravens, and Josh Allen's your guy. Like, it actually does make your season better to watch Josh Allen go and have 34 points or whatever. You're in a better mood. You're nicer to your family.

Christmas day. Yes, Lamar Jackson that beat the Texans 30. 24. Yeah, exactly. You're just in a better mood, all right? Yeah. And so the other one I'll say throw in their... It feels great.

I'll actually make it the top five quarterbacks. You don't come home drunk at midnight, pissed off about. Breeze Hall, yell at your family. Yell at your family. You don't take it out on your wife. Yeah. Look at my son's eyes and I see the same calories. You cook the shit out of the chicken.

You throw your plate against the wall. Yeah, I just, the other one I just look at the 50s. I try to dodge stratis. Yeah. I did just pull out certain ones of just guys where I'm like, there's a glaring like, which of these guys do I want to watch all year? And I had like people we have, Joe Burrow two spots from Tony Pollard. you know i'd rather watch show burrow which who do you want to watch oh lord

shit i was kind of obvious i mean tony's kind of a post type sleeper but uh yeah there's value there is value there he's going for ten dollars less than he's expected to i i think i think i think josh allen is the single most uh player that makes you happy like the bills i agree i've i've never been the josh allen stephan diggs era every time i would go up against them i had genuinely like a terrible day. When it was like, I remember it was Monday night football. I was, I was up 70 points. And he had Josh Allen and Steph Diggs and he won.

And I was like, up 70. Yeah. And it was like, honestly, it seemed easy. I was like, I'll probably lose. And Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs easily came up with 70 points. And I'm like, he just does everything. And he's involved in every way. He's super likable.

The bills are super fun. They have like the best fans. And I'm like, you know what? I just like want to be on Josh Allen's side for the rest of my life. And so you're up 70 and you lost. Yeah. You know, Diggs had like 180 yards, three touchdowns. Josh Allen ran for two.

I was like, of course. But like this is why you want guys like that. It makes you happy. I just want to throw a few other guys that make me happy. Those are the obvious guys. Get an elite quarterback, getting a lead running back, lead receivers. Other guys that just make me happy.

The point being though, you should make your own list. This is my point is figure out guys that make you happy. My guys, I just want to shout out of like, I just like this person. If this person succeeded on my team, I'd be happier than other people. Ricky Peresol is back to back with like Michael Pittman.

And I'm like on one hand, Michael Pittman who had a bag back last year playing with Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson and the Colts and just is a pretty boring player next to Ricky Parasol who got shot, came back, had a great story. We had the stupid tattoos of like bet on yourself and everything on his arm. Like I liked him at Florida. It's just one of the best offenses, Shinn.

I'm like, I'd rather watch Ricky Parasol. Like this is obvious. Jaden Reed. I like how he plays. Like I just, no one likes him this year. People don't like that he's a player. I don't give a shit. Jade Reed is a man among boys.

He fights people. I love Jaden Reed. Tyler Warren, just unbelievable to watch in college. And I watch him the preseason game of the cults. I'm like, that guy's going to be great. He has long hair. I'd like to him on my team. So anyway, figure out who that is for you.

George Kittl. George Kittles is a great one. George Kittles side by side with Breece fucking Hall. Who do you want on your team? George Kittle or Preece Hall? Sometimes it's fun too, like if you're into this kind of thing, where you choose a player from your arch rival team. George Kittle is a perfect example of this.

So it's like, the 49ers are succeeding. Doesn't feel great in my heart. But guess what? George Kittle. Fuck yeah. Emotional. Yeah, that's kind of blast on this. No, I get it though, because some people,

so my brother is an example of someone who will never draft. My brother will never draft the Eagles or Cowboys. But then both giant Super Bowls, I put money on the Patriots money. Yeah, I do get that. I've done that before as well. I'm like, you're telling me if the Giants win the Super Bowl, I only have to pay like a couple hundred dollars. Like I would have paid millions for this time.

SDSU made it to the national championship. I would just bet against them every week as an emotional hedge. There you go. And I was happy. Every time I lost money, I was like, great. Best money you've ever.

I would spend $100 for them to make the finals every fucking deal. And some people are listening to this. Like, why wouldn't you bet on your team? Because imagine losing the college basketball like final and also you're out like a few hundred bucks. Like that's awful. Yeah. I did bet on them in the final because I was like,

fuck it. We're here. Oh, well, that must have been tired. Well, you broke the streak. That's your fault. Okay.

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Futures Day is one day and one day only. Fandle, play your game. DK. Next Memento tattoo here from last year. Where is the tattoo? This is one of our oldest rules, I think. You know, this one is like our first tattoo. You had to get it retouched up.

Yeah, kind of like at times I'll, you know, like do a piece over it. So it kind of like blends into. to all the other tattoos now. But basically it just says don't trust Kyle Shanahan. Last year, well, this one would have fucking saved you from a lot of pain because

obviously the Christian McCaffrey debacle. I remember I feel like we were talking about this before the year last year and we're like, ah, we're kind of ignoring it and we're just going to draft. It's kind of ironic that we have Christian McCaffrey ranked in the top three or whatever. For me, this is tough. I just got done talking about George Kittle.

For me? This is kind of like, me telling you that sugar is bad for you. It's like you know implicitly that sugar is bad for you. This is what you've heard your whole life. Don't eat that. It's too sugary. It's going to make your stomach hurt.

You know what? If there's cookies in my house, they're getting fucking eaten really fast. I'm going to eat them in probably less than a day. A pack of cookies. I just can't have them in my house. This is like someone selling you not to smoke when you get drunk. But you do because it's fun.

You know what I mean? So I'm, okay. So you're saying, Kyle Shanahan and the Niners are a cigarette when you're drunk or it's like a pack of Oreos on the counter late at night. It's hard to fucking follow this rule. People tell you not to do it and you're like, oh, fuck those people. So, yeah, like I recognize that I'm being sort of like pedantic or something by saying not to trust Kyle Shanahan. And my like, if I was told that, I'd probably be like, this person isn't that fun.

You're the guy lighting up a cigarette telling the kid, don't smoke kid. It's like, all right, don't tell me what to do. Don't be like me. Don't make the same mistakes I do. So you look cool. So you're saying... So this is a tough one. I feel like this is the rule that actually is probably

usually the right one, but I almost never follow it. Remember when like Pete Davidson paid like $100,000 to get all this tattoos removed? Are you going to do that? It feels like you want to get this one removed. It feels like you kind of want to trust Kyle Shannon. This is not the lifestyle I want to live. You don't want none of this, do we?

Yeah. You don't want none of this? I've already talked myself into you. George Kittle. I'm talking myself into Ricky Pierce Hall. If Christian McCaffrey's there at like 7 or 8, you know what? I'm probably going to take him. Okay, so you're into all of the Niners. So look, I'm

this, do as I say, not as I do. All right? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. But also, you can't trust him. You just can't. I think what's good about this is I think that the trust has been removed. I think that maybe, is that how we convince ourselves to smoke? Is that we're like, well, drunk things don't count. You're like, it doesn't count about trusting him if you actually

all the players are like really cheap. This is like those stats like every cigarette will take four hours off your life. You're like, all right, that's fine. Okay. It's like, all right. You know what? I'll die four hours earlier. Okay. I actually don't really understand the connection there.

But didn't mean what I just? Taking Shannan players will take four hours off your life. But you know what? I'm going to do that. Fuck it. Yeah. All right. I will say, but the Niners are like the perfect storm to be like, ah, but I want to do it this year because it's like they have the easy schedule in the NFL. They're going to be

healthier like it just and again guys are cheaper like juan jennings ricky parasol these are guys going and like you know we can probably get them yeah it makes more sense now it's like when they like took the alcohol out of four locoes or whatever like they made four locoes like kind of healthier and you're like you know what they're better now it makes sense it's zin and smoke and vaping where they're just like no no no no don't worry we took all the tobacco out it's just nicotine now don't worry yeah it's healthier that's where do you guys fall it's basically a salad yeah i'll I'm taking all the 49ers. I want kittle.

It's a salad with like a shitload of fucking blue cheese dressing on it. Yeah, exactly. That's super. I want, I'm taking all the 90. This is really, I, it's like the,

like what you're saying, DK, about no sugar, no smoking. I respect you if you do it, but like, I'm going to do it. I'm going to eat all the cookies and we're,

yeah. So because I like those people that will wake up at 4 a.m. and have a full day before I get out of bed. If you don't, if you want to not take Shanahan, players, I respect you. Craig,

but I'm not getting up at four in the morning. What is that video, Craig? Your favorite internet video? The guy's had multiple days. The guy was three days in one day. Oh my God. 4 a.m. to 7 a.m. I've already banged out a workout.

I've already done, I've already taken some notes. He's like doing a diary. He's like, my day starts at 5 a.m. And he's like, from 5 a.m. to 10 a.m., boom, that's day one. Then 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. That's day two. I'm kicking your butt. And then 3 p.m. to 6 p.m.

That's my third day. And then by then 6 to midnight, bam, four days. I'm living for one. I do 1,000 days a year. kicking your ass. Yeah. He's like, you do that for a month? I'm ahead of you.

You do that for a year? I'm gonna kick your butt. I do that for five years. You can't stop me. What's this guy fucking talking about? That's like when Kramer started like only wanted to sleep in naps. Like Napoleon?

He's like 20 minutes every four hours or something. He just slept for like three hours a day. Wolf naps. I genuinely, I adore that video. I don't know who that man is. I wish I should look him up. I think we could find him, yeah.

There's several versions of it. DK, which you have another twin tattoo with this one. This one's actually a pair you have here. Yeah, this one I actually do want to follow. This is like maybe closer to don't do black tar heroin because it actually might kill you.

Don't shackle yourself to the whims of Sean Payton. The whims of Sean Payton. What's Sean's my own name? I'm on it. Sean Payton. Everybody's starting to believe in Sean Payton. His middle name is Sean.

Okay, well, what's his first name? Patrick. Patrick, Sean Payton. Patrick Payton? Don't shackle yourself to the whims of Patrick Sean Payton. What's funny about that is that means his initials are PSP. Oh, damn, never mind. I thought it was PCP, which I thought would have really worked.

PSP. Okay, here's the deal. He's a good coach. He's obviously a very good coach. I think the Broncos are probably going to be pretty good. He did a great job with Bowdo Nix. All that stuff can be true at the same time. I don't like having players on his teams because it's really annoying.

And there's all these people that say, oh, look at the history of what he's done at the running back position. Look at this. He turned, you know, Camara and Mark Engerman to both RB-1s. All through his history, he's done this, blah, blah, blah. R.J. Harvey is fifth on the depth chart right now behind Adric Estabey and Tyler Beatty. He's doing this to fuck with you. He's doing this because he hates you.

He doesn't like you. He doesn't want your happiness. He doesn't care about you. That's all I'm saying. I don't want to be sucked into this. I've, you know what? Look,

I've drafted some R.J. Harvey. I'll admit it. But I don't feel good about it. I don't like it. I don't want to have any part of this team. This is very, I guess, similar to High Fitz's thing where if it sparks joy or if it doesn't spark joy,

it actually sparks rage for me, watching some of these teams. The receiver with the highest snap count last year, or sorry, the running back snap count last year was 53%. Okay. We all got excited about R.J. Harvey and then they signed JK Davenz. What are we going to do with this? Rebuttal. Maybe there's a reason why Cortland Sutton

was the only wide receiver to play a significant portion of snaps because none of the other ones were good and he was trying to figure out which one was good. And then none of his running backs were good and he was trying to figure out which ones are good. And then when he has good players on the Saints with Alvin Camara and Michael Thomas or Marcus Colson, those guys played because they were good. And he just doesn't have that many good players. And so he's trying to draft new ones and see if those are good. I mean, yeah, that's probably right. But I think the guy was rolling out Troy Franklin and Marvin Mims. I'm going to say, like, every time Marvin Mims touches the football, he gets like 20 yards and then he refuses to play this guy.

Not that I think Marvin Mims is like this world beer, but I don't think, I just think, again, it's like Shanahan. It's these guys have their guys that they like. And even if they are good, Craig, like in our opinion, maybe some of these guys are good. if Peyton decides that you're not good, then you're not fucking getting on the field. And so I just don't want to be like, I don't want to have to worry about who he likes any certain week. He's just rotating guys.

I think this is an important thing, because I think the Broncos have become like the most popular team of the year to project. Everyone's coming around on this team. But you're not. I'm not. But I think that RJ Harvey Harvey's an interesting one. Because at one hand,

I think Archie Harvey hasn't really been talked about enough in a way. Because, he's the UCF running back and he was a quarterback in Virginia. I know I've talked about this, but again, to me it's underrated that I want to think Archie Harvey is going to be like a Darren Sprouls

for this Broncos team, which what does that mean? That kind of like actually is an ick for me, even though I love him. Darren Sproles' best year of his career was 600 rushing yards. He's like, he was a very small pass catching running back. But I'm like, I'm also a little dubious. I'm like, can you really be in our,

Darren Sproles as a rookie? Like, that's a lot. Like, especially for Sean Payton where rookies sometimes struggle. Like, the idea that RJ Harvey will come in and just be Darren Sproes in the passing game. I'm like, maybe he'll be Darren Sprouls later, but expecting that from RG Harvey immediately seems like a lot.

The other, I will, but then I think about it. I'm like, but I, RJ Harvey played quarterback in college at Virginia for a year. And I'm like, so he could throw. So Sean Payton took a guy in the second round who can throw. And I'm like, this is a tason hill. This is the, okay, but this is the Tason Hill. He doesn't have to be a good quarterback. He just has to be a credible enough passer to if someone's uncovered.

hit them. And so suddenly if you're in the running game and you're designing weird shit, and you're like, oh, the starting running back's motioning. What are we going to do? You throw a swing pass and everyone crashes down. He can throw it. And like, I kind of think that he's going to he's going to put that on tape in week one or two just to force defenses to deal with it. But even that, I'm like, this is a more interesting in real life player, I think, than necessarily some fantasy like dependent running back. I don't know. Because on one hand, I worry that Archie Harvey could be the skeleton key of the season and it'll be like the lead running back on a Broncos team that's great winning playing with rushing and defense.

And the other hand, I'm like, this guy's going to be part of a three down backfield that is, to dey his point, it's going to be completely and utterly unpredictable when RG Harvey is playing, getting touches, and we'll have no clue how to go about this. You know the very famous video of Chris Farley where he's like a guy in the crowd and they're talking about coffee or something and he like gives, he tricks him and gives him like decaf or something. I can't remember what they can see this. And at first he's like, he's like, uh, and then he's.

gets really upset, like he gets like super mad. That was like me, I was like, R.J. Harvey? Second round? Oh my God. I love R.J. Harvey. And then I see who he's drafted by. I'm like, no.

You're a son of a bitch. I respectfully disagree. I'm in on R.J. Harvey. I think he could go for it. I think he could be the skeleton key. The whole rookie thing, dude, Reggie Bush had 120 targets as a rookie with Sean Payton.

Alvin. Craig, you're doing what they all do. Alvin Camara had 100 targets as a rookie. Reggie Bush had 1,500 yards receiving as a rookie with Sean Payton. J.K. Dobbins has had nine injuries, and he's like 26 years old. That's the only thing standing in between.

I don't even think he is standing in between. I think RJ Harvey could be a very serviceable player, even with J.K. Dobbins. Every game Dobbins play. I think this is the one thing I will say. I think some time. Bo Nix checks down more than any quarterback in the league. I know, I know.

But I think this is the thing. thing sometimes we get wrapped up in where it's like Ben Johnson goes from the lines to the bears. And we're like, well, Jimiard Gibbs and David Montgomery were great. And I'm like, oh, I wonder if one of these bears running back Swift and Rochon Johnson like, what if they'll be great? And I'm like, oh, yeah, right. The bears aren't the lions. The same thing to Sean Payton, where we're like trying to force a running back to be great in this offense. And I will say, the Saints teams that were doing that with Kamar and Mark Ingram were literally some of the best offenses in the history of professional football. Like those are Saints teams that score. Drew Brees was like the first

5,000 yard passer when that was happening. Like the 2017 Saints, that's like the best team to never win a Super Bowl of my life was that era of the saints. Also, Reggie Bush was like maybe the greatest college football player of all time. Yes. And I'm just, I know. And I'm just saying the flip and here's like those same teams. Okay.

But those same teams, the defense, they were the lions where the defense was horrific and injury prone and they had to win by scoring 35 points a game. The Broncos are probably going to have the best defense in the entire NFL this year. And so the idea that R.J. Harvey's going to necessarily. necessarily be a pass catching running like the Broncos are going to truncate games try to run and like play with defense where I'm like they're literally much I don't necessarily think Sean Payton's vision to winning the Super Bowl this year is by scoring 30 points a game like he was with the 2012 Saints that's my only thing having said that watch I love RJ Harvey Harvey I wish him nothing but success

because I really did like him before the draft but I don't know man you got these are the tattoos you got to listen to these things Javante Williams led all running backs last year with 54 targets on play action alone. Yeah, those are the stats where I'm like, Javonte Williams. I know, I know. I think I leave. Bed last?

No, I'm saying. This man is, Sean Payton is trying to tell us something. If he can't stop targeting Javante Williams and then he reaches for a running back in the second round of the draft. What is he telling us? I don't know. He traded up for Martin Mims and then barely played him. I'm with Craig,

but D.K's going to be right, but I'm going to decide I'm going to take R.J. Harvey, but D.K. is going to look back at me right. I don't know if it'll work immediately, but I think by the end of the season, R.J. Harvey will be very important. That is the one thing I'll say. If you end up with R.G. Harvey, hold on. You cannot cut him in October.

If he's, like, benched and not playing, I don't care what, like, you have to do, like, going by, like, Odysseus past the fucking sirens. Wax in your ears, don't listen to anyone. You cannot cut R.G. Harvey if he's not playing in September. Because by November, he could be a top 10 running back if he's playing for Bronx, like if Jake Advin gets hurt. So you have to hold him.

Um, okay. Go Broncos. This is all like a big lead up to this one. I think the last few, this one's, um, this is what it's really about. Craig, your next tattoo here. Uh, where, where's this one located? What's it say? Um, this one I got when I was blacked out drunk and I woke up the next morning

and saw it in the mirror on my ass. And it said, avoid anybody. who skipped minicamp to see if the aliens built the pyramids. Yeah, this one stinks. I have to say, hoisted by my own petard. Why, Craig? Which player avoided skip minicamp to see if the aliens built the pyramids? Which player did this?

Aaron Rogers, a very curious man who just wants to learn. He's an enigma, really. Is it so bad to want to learn about world history, travel the world, see the world's greatest, you know, the seven wonders of the world. I don't think the pyramids are one of those, but... I'm pretty sure they are. Are they?

Almost positive. Isn't there a modern seven wonders? There's seven wonders of the ancient. And then an ancient seven wonders. Yes. Which one is it? Is it the ancient is the pyramids? The Great Pyramids are the modern one.

What the fuck do you think? How modern are the modern ones? The pyramids? Did all this thing in the world? Hyphus, what's the stat it's like... Cleopatra was born closer to the moon landing than the building the pyramids. That's wild.

Well, if they are the oldest thing in the world, have it's like you said, pretty impressive to build those such a long time ago. Craig, did Aaron Rogers go to... How are the pyramids the oldest thing in the world? I mean, it's a valid question. The hanging gardens of Babylon, the statue of Zeus at Olympia,

the Temple of Artemis at Ephesus, the mausoleum of... Okay, these are some hard words. Halle Carnassus, Colossus of Rhodes, Lighthouse, Alexandria. did you go to all those two? Those are the seven ancient. I'm sure it's on the list.

World ones. Also, like, I got to say, the modern wonders of the world are not exactly like last year. It's like the Great Wall. It's like Machu Picchu and fucking... That's not modern. It's one of the modern wonders of the world.

That's funny. Great Wall of China. So, Coliseum. So these are all like long times, thousands of years ago. It's kind of confusing. They have two lists. I agree.

But anyway, I think we're also reading off Google Gemini, which isn't helping here. Could be wrong. What, the new seven wonders of the world. No, D.K., we're getting stuck to it. This is just Craig deflecting from like how the fact that the Steelers signed Aaron Rogers and he's just going in on Aaron Rogers.

And like, we should take this advice and like talk up, no, I don't know what I'll say. Here's what I'll say. This was about fantasy football, which I still agree with. I do not think Aaron Rogers is a good pick in fantasy football this year. Do I think perhaps this was a better decision

to pay him $13 million than Kirk Cousins, 100 or Sam Donald 100. Yes. Are you going to take D.K. McCaff in fantasy drafts this year if he falls to at cost? You know, fifth round? At cost? Like maybe, I do think he will get a lot of targets. I think that it will be a funnel offense to him. And Aaron Rogers threw more passes than any other quarterback last year.

I'm not going to go out of my way to draft D.K. Metcalfe. But, you know, look, I'm deflecting. I'm a little upset that this was a tattoo I found on my ass this morning. Yeah, it's tough. You guys talk to me into it, fuckers. Hey, is there anyone, is there anyone besides Aaron Rogers that applies to this rule in terms of, is anyone having like a weird ass off season? Well, though, I think, well, weird off season. Wow.

I mean, Diggs would be the, I don't know if it's, I mean, doing drugs in a boat sounds way cooler than. Allegedly. Also, like, I feel like digs, digs has been Diggs. Is this like a weird off season or is it just always what he does and we just saw it on camera once? Right. Bingo. Yeah. This still leads to another one that's the twin to my other tattoo here.

And it's just like, it's on my, it's on my thigh. It just says avoid toxic people in toxic places. And I am going to really try to adhere to this. And the names I have tattooed on my, on my body of the toxic people in places, Kyle Pitts, Jalen Waddle, Chicago, Jets, Cleveland. Chicago, Chicago, Chicago, yes. And with a team, the Bears. Jets. So no flying.

So I think you're bad at interpreting tattoos. But the, I think these things together to me are the theme of this whole episode, which is like you have rankings, you have tears. And the tiebreakers, if you're between players, are, do you love one of these players and you're average about the other? Or do you hate one of these players?

What are you talking about? And I'm like, again, I know he said this earlier, but it's the same thing. Brees Hall, Garrett Wilson, Jets. George Kittle, not a jet. Why am I trying so hard this offseason to talk myself in to investing in Justin Fields and his dislocated toe and the Jets and Garrett Wilson, Breez Hall? Why am I trying to do that to myself?

Like, why am, and I, you know what I mean? This is essentially just draft good players on good teams. It is, but it's also the inverse because sometimes you're comparing an average player on an average team to, I guess an example is I'm really trying to talk myself into the Jaguars. I love the Jaguars. It's unrelated to Travis Hunter.

I just believe in Liam Cohen, the coach. I believe in Trevor Lawrence at quarterback. I know a lot of people are out. And I'm like, why am I? Aren't the Jaguars a toxic place? Who has succeeded in Jacksonville? Why am I trying so hard to find the first great functional offense

in Jacksonville history? Why am I trying to create this? The Bears have never had a 4,000-yard passer. Why am I trying so hard to carve a piece of the first this has never happened Why am I trying so just stop trying to make toxic things work Hyphus this is like kind of like stop trying to make fetch happen yes fetch the jets the Jags the Browns try to make the Jags happen why I don't want to do this So that's kind of where I'm at and I yeah that's let's just change that I like that I like that

I like add that on there but I actually I think this is good like stop trying to invent reasons that someone's going to like go off or whatever. Yeah. It's like, I'm sorry Garrett Wilson went to the Jets, but like that's a huge problem. Yeah. So yeah.

And he's, now he's stuck there. He's just signed a thing. Any other players you think this applies to? All the Browns. So Jerry Judy, if Jerry Judy's great, I'd rather lose without,

I'd rather lose without Jerry Judy than win with him. I'm just done. I don't like the Browns. I mean, the Titans a little bit. Like we love Cam Ward. I think he's going to be a good player. But.

are we trying to make fetch happen when we talk about Calvin Ridley and we talk about he's the only receiver we're drafting on the team I don't think we're necessarily we're saying Cam Ward will probably target the shitload out of Calvin Ridley and we're like him being 75th is probably value we have him like 60th I think maybe it's maybe it's the Raiders maybe it's our love of Pete Carroll and the Raiders that gentee by the way well we'll talk about this but Gentie did not did not do great in his first NFL outing um The Raiders are concerning, like, if they went really bad, we're like, oh, yeah, Pete Carroll is the oldest coach in NFL history,

and Tom Brady's like this weird part-time owner. And Chip Kelly washed out of the end of, and like literally got bored of, he won't recruit. So he just like, oh, they wants to call plays now and hates college players. Gentie, three cares for negative one yards. Well, if you extrapolate that to the end, to the season, he's losing a lot of yards. I desperately need that man to play week two of preseason.

So that that's not the only thing that's stuck in my brain on draft. Dude, I will say, Gentie, I'm going to be, if Gentie, if Ash and Gentie's bad and we're like, oh yeah, all those tackles that he broke were like people who are never going to play professional football. It was Boise State. I'm going to be really sad.

If Caleb and Gentie both end up just like being bad, I'm officially just going to fade every single like consensus top overall pace. Yeah, I'm just going to be like, I'm just going to do the opposite. I think there's one other, the inverse hyphids of like the fetch thing to me is like Kyron Williams where it's like,

stop trying to not make Kyron Williams a thing. Totally. That's a good one. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, it's happening. accept it.

Okay. I actually have a list of players like that. I didn't have a great place for this, but I agree. Like, stop trying, yeah, whatever you just said. Stop trying to get me to happen. Stop trying to get me to stop saying fetch. We're anchored to guys that the draft capital, no matter what, or what we thought of them before.

It's why I keep talking about Kyle Pitts. I think guys that we didn't think would be as good as they are and are going to get it either a lot of, like running back is Kyron Williams, the perfect example, Buck Eirving, and then also Chase Brown, who have Chase Brown. Isaiah Pacheco, yeah. Isaiah Pacheco.

James Connor. Chase Brown's a good example of if Chase Brown had been, like if Ashton Gentie just did what Chase Brown did, Freaky Friday style. If Chase Brown just did, or Ashen Genty just did with Chase Brown this year. After an Ashen Genty was on the Bengals coming to the season.

We'd have Ashen Genties like a top 12 pick. But Chase Brown did it. So it's like, oh, he can go 25th or 35th or something. And I'm like, we should probably just believe that Chase Brown's going to get the same role again. We should probably just believe Karen Williams. Like that's a good, that's a good. call like a like Rashid she he's probably on that list of guys that if he had been a

if James Williams has done what she'd she's done in his career he'd be like 40 spots higher but it's Rashid it's kind of an X so it's like outside the top 100 there's a lot of guys like also if Marvin Harrison Jr. was like a third round pick and he did what he did last year he'd be 30 we'd be out on yeah actually no that's not true because we'd probably be stoked about him because he was a third round pick and he had that's true that's true maybe that's sneaky good yeah Marvin Harrison I like the freaky Friday reference type it's very very relevant the freakier Friday just came out. Freakier Friday.

I still want to figure out a format for that where we just read each other's stats about a player, but it's like a lie and it's someone else. Is it a freakyer Friday if it happened again? Like they already, they've already done this. So I didn't see it yet, but I assume that freaky or Friday

is some kind of like, I believe there's now four people swapping. It's like Lindsay Lohan and Jamie Lee Curtis have swapped with like teenagers, I think. Oh, I guess, I think. Yeah. So, are you guys going to go see that movie?

I would actually. Fricky Friday's a good movie. Jimmy the Curtis after the bear loving it. Oscar winner. Oscar winner. What did she win the Oscar for? She just won it a couple years ago. Everything everywhere all the once.

Oh yeah. That movie was great movie. That was excellent. Although I think that movie, I don't know how you feel. I'm surprised that won the Oscar because very bizarre Oscar. Parents' generation can't follow it. Like the multiverse thing doesn't stick for the movie. thing doesn't stick for them. No.

They can't concede. You hated it? No, I said they hated it. They did. I mean, like, Bill didn't like it. My parents were like, we turned it off after an hour. What the hell was that? Jack and I were like, it's the best movie. Like, what is this movie? I saw that in the theaters and I remember it was like the cliche of like, you'll laugh, you'll cry. You'll cheer. Like, I was, I did all of that in the span of two hours watching that movie. Email us at Ringer Fantasy Football at Gmail.com. Other movies that you think like really had a generational divide where you're like, older people were like, I don't get this and younger people

like this changed my life. Like, I'm sure Fight Club was probably like that when it came out. But like movies, like everything everywhere at once where your parents were like, I couldn't finish it. Also, the humor was very current and modern, like the style of the jokes. It was just an incredibly modern film. All right. Next tattoo here.

Craig. This is tattooed on my rib cage. And it just says, Jamar Chase 101. Take him first. You can't convince me otherwise. He's the best wide receiver and the best passing offense with the best passing quarter. I'm just doing it. I will take Jamar Chase.

That's it. Yeah, that's good. No nuts. He's the best. There was a moment. I can't remember. It was over the last couple of months where you were trying to talk about someone else at number one. I was like, Craig, what about Jamar? Jamar Chase.

This is, sorry, we're recording this like a little early, but Jamar Chase last night for the Bengals. He's good. Why was he playing? He's still good. I kind of love that they're just like fucking. It's because it's because the Bengals, like Joe Burroughs never had a normal preseason because the year one was COVID. And then year two,

he had a emergency app. Yeah, he's a calf injury one off the end. Caff injury. Then he had like an appendix. He's a penit. He's a penitism removes on like the first day of training camp one year. Like just he's literally never.

So they're like and then they keep starting oh and two each year. Oh right. And then fighting to get back in the playoffs. So like we probably need to get in a rhythm. And then yeah, look great. Speaking of which it's so funny you brought that up. I have this crazy tattoo across my chest.

It's written backwards. I can see it the mirror. And it just says, Joe Burrow killed my family. What do you guys think that means? Hmm. I think you need to do some investigating. Yeah.

That's crazy. Soul searching, if you are. Well, so my biggest mistake of my professional career last year was basically pointing everyone away from the Cincinnati Bengals because I did, because I was worried about Joe Burroughs wrist.

And it wasn't based on nothing. It wasn't just, I was like, the water bottle thing had nothing. to do with it. Zero. It's on the record. It happened way after. It had something to do with it. No, it didn't. No, I will say this. For Craig, it did. Do not, no, do not. Do you not put it out there? I talked about it like 10 times before that. That was not a thing.

I'm just a chaos agent. I'm just trying to shitter. Waterbott had nothing to do with it. Craig. But it's funny. Seriously, though, who did build the pyramids? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. We need, I think here's, here's how we need to approach this Joe Burrow killed my family tattoo. We got to identify and I think we talked about this last show a little bit.

We need to figure out who your Joe Burrow is every year. I agree. And just for people who don't know, it really was the worst mistake ever made because I actually think as a percentage of hits, I think I got more stuff right last season than I ever have. And yet, if you add all that up.

The one you made your identity. Pointing people away from the Bengals was the worst outweighs literally getting everything. Even McCaffrey. We move McCaffrey down because I was like, I don't like this Achilles situation. or the calf situation. And I was like, I just overall was like,

I don't like the wrist situation with Burrow. Man, I wish you were to focus hard on Chris McCaffrey instead. That would have been awesome. Pointing people away from Borough. I know. You did talk about him. No, we did.

We moved McCaffrey. You talked about him. But I'm saying, I wish you'd have been obsessed with it. I know. That would have been better. But the pointing people away from Burrow and Chase and Higgins was like the the worst mistake I've ever made because pointing people away from league winner is a lot

worse than talking up a guy that sucks. It doesn't matter if you miss one pick. But missing one of the few players that changed. is a season's huge problem. So that is good to remember. But I will say it also is a theme that my most passionate take of any given year is always wrong.

And I can't explain it, but I just know, and I have, I want to let you guys know, I have identified what it is this year. Oh, okay. The mix of certainty, arrogance, like, Oh, I want to get enough information to feel like I'm right. But like, when you look into it a little more,

I'm like, oh, I see, and I have identified what I think it is, and I'm going to stop on my tracks, I figured it out. And if you guys need a hit, let me know. But I've figured out what my take is. Well, it's funny that Anthony Richardson, it was Anthony Richardson, and then he literally got hurt. No, that's not it because that one.

It's low stakes. The whole thing is, oh, your last pick, you're going to cut him anyway. I'm like, take Anthony Richardson. I don't care that. D.K., let's guess. Give us a second. Justin Jefferson's going to have like 3,000 yards. I don't know.

I'm not that anti-Jefferson. I think I have him higher than. Wait, hyphids, give us a hint. Is this a person you're out on that you think will actually be great? Or is this a person you think will be great that will be great that will actually flop. The hint is Dekin and I've disagreed about it multiple times. And I think Dek is right. I've thought about it. And I think I'm wrong and he's right. The Saints will be good? Yes. I think that I have absolutely, I've identified it in the tracks that is all the same

things. They're going to suck. They're going to suck. They're going to suck. You have, that's why this is exactly why I pushed back a little bit. I'm literally just being contrarred because you guys keep talking about them winning like three years. I'm like, they'll probably win like seven games. It's everything I realize you get wrong, which is a bunch of things I realize I believe. No one ever actually can correctly identify the team getting the number one pick. Or like the idea like, oh, look at the worst pick. Like that's always wrong. Right.

Yeah. I mean, I feel like last year we kind of thought the Titans would get the first overall pick. Okay, usually. I don't know. But like, well, how many times two years ago the Cardinals were like, wow, the Cardinals have the Houston's first round pick. That could be the number one pick in the draft. Texans made the fucking playoffs.

You know what I mean? Like that happens all the time. And so that also, we have talked to so much about the Niners having the best. schedule in the NFL. And like that could make, Niners pencil them into the playoffs. Because they have the number one schedule. The Patriots could make the playoffs.

They have the easiest schedule. The second easiest schedule. The fucking Saints have the third easiest schedule in the NFL this year. And they had a lot of injuries. And I am not going to say they're going to make the playoffs because I still, I don't believe in Spencer Rattler. I think Kellynne Moore going from the best offense in the NFL and the Eagles to the Saints.

Like it's all these issues. However, I think I have over indexed on the Saints will suck. And I'm like lumping the Saints who have, who their issue is they're always competitive. They're obsessed with winning at the point that they've created like a salary cap Ponzi scheme to stay competitive a year. Lumping New Orleans in with Cleveland, the Jets, Chicago teams with decades and decades of losing and unable to stay out of their own way, I think is like a huge mistake for me. So like I am not, obviously the Saints could suck, but I am going to not lump in New Orleans with all these pathetic franchises.

I wish this was higher stakes because I think this is right. like you have been like fixated on this a little bit. But like if the Saints are good, like it won't matter that much. You know what I mean? So maybe that's it though. Is it that the Saints win the division? Or maybe it's like Chris Olave has 1,500 yards and 12 touchdowns or something. Yeah, because like if you're wrong, it's like, okay, the Saints won six or seven games.

Maybe it's like Alvin Camara and Chris Olave and Rashid are all superstars and fantasy or something like that. Yeah, like Tyler Shuck and Rattler are great. This is what I talked about last show. You know, they're going to play fast. They want to be the Pacers. Craig, I know how much you love that. You know, they want to do this. Why was Craig like, why would Craig like that?

Craig was saying he hates that. It was an ick that Kellynmore showed than tape of the Pacers. I was like, anyway. Why is that an ick? I don't know. It just feels irrelevant and like, it feels like such a, like a cliched move. It's like, it's like Kellynmore knew that would get out and thought it sounded cool more than he actually believed it would work. You know?

No, I, all these guys. I feel like that's a real PR thing. All football players want to be basketball players. No, I know, but like, I don't think that has any material influence on anything. It's like, look at the Pacers. Look how much they run. They're like, yep. Okay, that's a different sport.

I like it. Craig, this goes back to like the Pete Carroll days in Seattle. He would always do stuff like this where he was showing videos of like apex predators and like how fast they would strike and shit like that. But that's cool. That's like motivating and interesting and different. That's a different sport. Lion hunting a zebra. And you're like,

that's way cooler. Because that's like motivating. It's like visceral. Watching a lion like hunt somebody. It's like, oh, Tyrese Halliburton, look how quickly he gets the outlet pass out. Who fucking cares?

I actually think Craig is really right about this. A fucking cheetah running 80 miles an hour and taking an an anelope down is like really cool. Miles Turner. Here, look how quickly he gets the board and finds Tyrese... It is funny. I would say the Pacers is one of the least interesting, like, finals teams in a long time. Well, no, they were one of the coolest stories in the NBA in a while, I would say.

But like lack of superstars, maybe. So, well, yeah. Yeah. But like, I just don't... I don't know. Again, that sounds cool in theory, like when you read it in the headline, but when I actually think about it, I'm like, I don't know. That's kind of lame.

Kind of bad. Just show the hyenas to you and down. I saw a player just said. that like 11 hyenas can tear down a lion. I forget. Here's the staff from Jared Smola that I thought was interesting. All six of Kellyn Moore's NFL offenses have averaged 65 plays per game. For perspective, only four teams averaged 65 plus plays for game last year. Plays are fantasy. That's going to help in fantasy. That's all I'm saying. But does me acknowledging that this happened

and I caught it in his tracks? Does that mean we can make money off it? Or then it's just like, it's just there was a universe where I would have just talked about the Saints getting the first pick and being a disgust, like, pathetic team. And then the Saints, like, make the playoffs and the, and a lobby. Does that universe still, are we in that timeline still? Or does me acknowledging it ruining? Can I be 100% honest? I don't think you've fully put your passion behind the Saints take the way you did

Burrough and the Bengals last year. There's still, there's something else inside you that we will extract in the next month. Okay. I agree fully. Then we'll stay, we'll stay on, we'll stay on this, we'll stay and watch for it. We're going to, this is going to be part. Panda watch. Panda watch.

We're going to have our next episode. I think the things are going to suck, by the way. Fucking awful team. Spencer fucking Rattler. Three games. Three wins. Our next episode is going to be the rest of the lessons we tattooed. And also, yeah, we're are serious about like these are actual things.

We're trying to figure how to incorporate for next season. So that's going to be part two. But for right now, we're going to read a couple emails. And then we'll have part two later this week. So we're going to get the emails. Any other thoughts in any of these overall? I think our take is basically when you're, I feel like our takeaway from this is, Don't just go ahead and reach for players you like if they're three rounds early.

And don't just totally refuse to take Jalen Waddle if he falls two rounds. But if it's it's more than just a tiebreaker between the 50th and 51st player of like, do I want to watch this team? Do I like this player's story? Do I hate? Are they on the Browns? Like, you know what I mean? Like it's more than just a tiebreaker,

but not necessarily a reason to like don't make it your whole personality. I feel like this, this was a feelings episode. episode and the next episode is much more like analytical and and I guess strategy. There's more strategy with this next batch, but this was very much just like. Statistically driven analysis. Yeah. This one was like, you know, fantasy is supposed to be fun.

So this one's like be emotional. Right. And the other ones like being jumping. It's like, you know, take guys you like, take guys on good teams. Don't get cute with some player on a shitty team because it's a good value. It's like you're overthinking it. Just take good players that you like that make you happy who are generally on good offenses.

It is now time for rules and tips to winning your league. A new segment presented by Yahoo Fantasy. Fantasy, the best place to play fantasy football this season. Yahoo Fantasy is dropping 28 big new features over 28 days throughout August, and they just dropped Yahoo! Fantasy guillotine leagues, a killer new way to play on Yahoo! Where the lowest scoring team gets eliminated weekly until one is left standing. Give the new Yahoo Fantasy guillotine leagues a try or stick with the classics in private

head-to-head leagues or public leagues, whether you are a seasoned pro or a first-time player, there are a few things you'll want to know before the season kicks off. So we wanted to go ahead and give our number one draft day rule here for advice when you're out here on your Yahoo draft. DK, what is your number one draft day rule for people? I think using tiers when you're drafting is a really, really good way to do it. Basically, it gives you an idea of which position to draft at each spot in the draft. If you're getting close to the end of a tier of elite guys at a tight end, you've got to grab

that tight end before it's like a huge. drop off to the next guy, that kind of thing. Same with quarterback. And you can use this for every position. I just think it's a really helpful tool that you use in each round to kind of figure out what the best value is in each round. Yeah, I totally agree. I think that is probably the most helpful thing you could do, even the process of just making them on your own.

Make the tears. Yeah, I think that's actually a really helpful way to plan. You learn really quickly where you're like, oh, this is my red line. Yeah. I like printing them out as well, doing it by hand. Cross them off. Is that your number one rule, Craig? No, my number one rule is if you are drafting in person with your friends, your league mates, try to sabotage the environment as best you can.

If you're not cheating, you try it. One, don't go to the bathroom, honestly, especially if you're in like an auction draft or something like that. Like, treat it like you're about to go on a 10-hour flight. Like, prep your body. Don't drink very much right before. Going to the bathroom compete the difference in you getting a fantastic pick or not. Also, I would say, there's always a moment in the draft when everyone's like, should we do, should we order food?

we get lunch, dinner. Order the heaviest, most unhealthy gut clogging food you can think of. Pizza, fried chicken, whatever you want, don't eat it. Let everybody, also, food that makes your fingers greasy, it's hard to type. You really just do anything you can to get their mind off of the draft. You just order bone and chicken wings and you're just crushing the celery. You're 100%. That's good.

You're using only a fork. Savvy. Yeah, I would say no food or drink. Just lock in. Just saccavallian. That's good. Smelling salts and those two. Bring smelling salts for every round.

Yeah, my number one thing of advice is just have a plan. Like if you're picking 10th in a 12 team league, figure out your first pick ahead of time. Like just rank the 10 players and you're like, who should you take? And then if you're between people, go to the next round. You're like, who are the receivers that would be available with the running backs? If I take Derek Kenner with the 10th pick, well, I wish that the four, you know, when it comes back around, you're like your 14th pick who is it because then you can you can in that situation actually your first three picks you can actually kind of figure out your first one for sure and then really

your first three picks where it's like if you have the first pick one and then back to back two and three like you can really figure out who am i going to end up with and then you're like okay well based on this who's my quarterback going to be do i want an elite quarterback i listen to the hyfitts like he i want one of the four quarterbacks all right cool how are you going to get them and if you don't where are you going next do you want joe burrow with the next pick or do you want to wait like a spots if you don't get one of the top 30 guys, top four guys. Like, just know that in advance. Have a plan.

Where are you getting your smelling salts from? How are you going to order all this greasy food to the draft? How am I going to sabotage my league mates? You can't just show up and expect to sabotage people. You have to have a plan. Yeah, also do mock drafts. You can do this on Yahoo. I mean, if you know what your pick is going to be, do a bunch of mock drafts.

It will give you a good idea of what is possible. There you go. Bring smelling salts to the mock drafts. Stay tuned for more killer announcements and start playing Yahoo! Football at Yahoo! Fantasy.com slash the ringer. Okay. Let's do a couple emails and get out of here. Emails.

This one's from Rich. Richie. Has anybody seen Richie? What's up, Dick? This is a... Arbonne. This is a follow-up to the zoo conspiracy. We got an unbelievable email from Andrew

about a zoo in New Jersey that claims to have a black bear. And Andrew's like, there's no bear. That claims to have a black bear. bear. So pointed, so leading. The claims to have a bear. This zoo claims to have an animal in there. So Richie Milden, I've been a devoted listener to the podcast for years, but I have

never thought to write in an email for a mailback before. Until I heard about the turtle backed zoo conspiracy theory from Andrew on the receiver's podcast. It inspired him. Rich writes, my wife and I have three young boys. and we happen to have been to the Turtleback Zoo no less than 100 times. A hundred times.

Between the three kids combined. That's good. He says, my kids have done camp there. We've had multiple birthday parties there. They've done the holiday party there. Yeah, he's like, yeah, they're birthed to the zoo and the vet sock. He's like, you get the idea. We go to the zoo a lot.

They're huge fans of the zoo. Huge fans of. So Rich says, after your podcast, I approached each of my boys independently to make sure that they would not influence each other's stories. Great. Like a good detective. Yeah, right.

Separate all the witnesses, right? I asked them if they have seen Jelly the Bear recently. Rich says, again, between them, we were talking about 100 visits to the zoo between the three of these kids. My oldest son, 9, is the most reliable narrator, said he has not seen this bear in two or three years. Wow.

My middle son, who's six, and has probably been to the zoo more than anyone who does not work at the zoo, said he could not remember ever seeing the bear. We're uncovering something big. This is potentially big, you guys. We are kind of the Woodward and Bernstein of 2025. Woodward and Bearstein.

Deep throat. My youngest son, who's four, says without missing a beat, I haven't seen the bear. I think he's dead or something. I think he's dead or something. We have reached out to friends and neighbors who we know go to the zoo, and they also say they have not seen the bear in at least a year.

I have told people Andrew's theory, everyone thinks he's right. This is a cover. up. This is no longer conspiracy theory. It's just the theory. You guys have to go visit the zoo and uncover what happened at Jelly. My God. This is the funniest thing. That's amazing. I want to go and get like get somebody on the record film like film an interview with a documentary. Should we like make a doc from your crew? Yeah, we should. Oh my God. Jelly. Jelly. I like the bear's name I say it's jelly.

So just to be clear, we think jelly escaped from the zoo, got into the park, and then the bear may have attacked a woman and the police killed the bear. And they're like, it was like, we got to pretend this bear is still here. Yeah. Why wouldn't they pull a jinxie cat from meet the parents and get a different bear? It's a great question. Because where do you get a bear? I don't think it's easy. It's not that easy to get an old bear, Craig.

What are you talking about? How do zoos get bears? I don't know. I think they have like exchange programs. Like the pandas in the DC zoo, it's like an actual, first of all, first of all, the pandas go, it's like China and America of an exchange program for the bears. The bears have their own FedEx trucks for the pandas. Like they have a whole trucks that transport these pandas back and forth to China.

And planes, I would imagine. Planes, but no, I'm saying like, FedEx don't, yes, that too. But they donated trucks that have panda logos on them and they're just for this fucking pandas. And it's like, you know, you're like, you. I've seen the pandas driving around D.C. In the little panda trucks. That's a movie of a guy who drives pandas around. That would have been like dumb and dumber too.

It's like them driving a panda around. But yeah, I feel like they should just get a new bear. That happened in Borat. So we should. Oh, yeah, right. That makes sense. Get a new bear. So here's the thing.

Do you think that the people with the suit? It's not that easy to just get a bear. It's really funny to make a guy in a bear suit, like poke his head out. Oh, that was a thing too. Super troopers? Oh, my gosh. is the guy candy bars

bear we got to go to this zoo but yeah well well there you go is the area around New Jersey I don't I'm not familiar

with New Jersey wildlife other than the devil apparently um is there bears in that area there are black bears yeah okay

it's not like as much as other parts like is this a weird thing that there was a bear okay um they exist but it's not like as much

other places, I guess is the way to say it. Like, they're around. I just Google Black Bears do the exist instead of like in New Jersey. And so, do they exist? Yes, bears exist. Thanks, Google Gemini. Okay. This is great. One other emails wanted to read. This is from Oh, I actually lost the person who was from.

But I'm going to pull it up right now. This is from Michael. Mikey. Mickey. What's up? Mikey writes, bowl of frosted mini wheat and a nice coffee for breakfast. Can I just say I love the breakfast? Love the breakfast thing. Yeah.

If you email us, lead with what you eat for breakfast, we really long. We won't read email unless you tell us what you have for breakfast. This guy, Frosted mini wheat's also not out of his 20s, right? I got to say,

I realized way more people eat cereal for breakfast than I thought. I used to mix frosted mini wheats with honey bunches of oats. Look it up. It's really good. Try that shit. And now I can't because it's like $2,000. Look what up. What the fuck am I looking?

I meant like try it. Okay. It was really funny. I looked it up in a book. Look what up? Craig, there's a whole Reddit on it. I don't know. All right.

So Frosted Mayweights iced coffee for breakfast. And Michael writes, I was going to say I eat pieces of shit for breakfast. But I couldn't because I'm sad that Craig hated Happy Gilmore 2. Craig has lived long enough to become the villain. Craig is like an old Roger Ebert who gave stepbrothers one and a half stars, had to look it up, gave the same rating to the original Happy Gilmore. Oh, that's it? Well, there's more, but it. Roger Eber historically has terrible at comedies.

Like, he's never, he's never gotten comedies. He's not a good comedy reviewer. So he was also, like, I think like 70 years old had cancer when he was probably reviewing stepbrothers. I think the point is he's saying that you've lived long enough to become the villain by hating happy Gomer 2. Craig has an established track record of liking good comedies. Yeah. What are we talking about? I love, like, all of the famous comedies.

I love. I do get what he's saying, though, that you're just yucking his yum. You know what? That's what critics do. You got to have a take. Right? That's what Sean said. You got to have a take.

Have a take. That's all I ask. Hyfitt's had a take, even though it was just fucking classic high fits. My take is it was a bad movie. And I laughed. I laughed at the bad movie. I don't know what I'm supposed to say. It's just a lie about my bodily functions.

Did Jackie like I laughed? Did you watch it with Jackie? No, she didn't watch it. Yeah. that's because Jackie has taste. My biggest complaint is about the discourse. My biggest complaint about the discourse is that I was entertained. What's the big deal?

Like to me, that is such a low bar. Anyway. Yeah, but isn't that the case for all, like, I don't know. I think Craig's, the best part of Craig's take, and obviously I agree with him, so I'm a little bit biased here, but I think the part of your take that I, that really resonated the most was I think you said,

it's not even a movie. Like it's not a movie. It's just a fucking like Christmas special where they invite a bunch of cameos over and they fucking hang out for a while and that's it. That's true. Our standards have fallen on what's considered acceptable, I think. Yeah, but is that different? I don't know. Like, yeah.

Like a country used to be, used to do things. You can make a movie. You can make Happy Gomore 2 to be fan service. I get it. That's what sequels are. It's fan service. People love the characters you want to bring them back. But like try and make it a movie.

Make it a real movie and make it good. Don't just make it the bare minimum. That's my whole point. Don't just mix random celebrities together into a scene and then expect it to be something. I guess, all right, this is... We don't need... We've talked about Happy Gilmore enough.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. What's the next thing that Craig is going to hate? Happy Gilmore three. All right, can I say one last thing about Happy Gilmore? Yeah. No one wants to criticize Adam Sandler for it. Of course.

no one wants to he's a nice guy yeah I know just no one it's almost like it's like it's your fault for liking it and I'm like okay but I feel like the criticism is Adam Sandler had 30 years to come up with the sequel and he's like I don't really have any good ideas but I'll take a hundred million dollars yeah I mean I completely agree it's disappointing everybody loves Adam Sandler everybody in Hollywood loves Adam Sandler I love Adam Sandler that's why I heard even more because I love him and I think he's great and so many of his movies meant so much to me and I thought were really smart and funny I mean I mean the track record of his movies over the last 10, 15 years have definitely changed. I mean, he basically makes like movies for kids now and for families on Netflix and stuff like that,

which again is totally fine. But that's why I was disappointing is because of the expectation of this person who had such a strong approval rating going into this. If this was a random movie, I wouldn't feel it strongly. If it was made by some random person, I wouldn't care as much. Yeah. You know? Really cutting to the core of it, yeah. I laughed at Scott Schaeffler being in jail. Thought it was fine.

Yeah, I mean, that's fine. That can be, like, that's, sure. It's a funny, yeah. Bad movie, though. I wish Scottie Sheffler was like a character in the movie and not in it for nine seconds. The, oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, you know what? Honestly, we could probably have written a better movie.

Should we just make a new one? Make our own version of fucking happy Gilmore. It's called Happy Gilmore 2, The Mulligan. Yeah. That's not bad Breakfast ball Michael Oh what's for breakfast

There's something there The other part of Michael Zima I wanted to read is I'm sure you guys heard New Little Freaks are on the way The Reese's peanut butter cup Oreos And also Oreo cookie

Reese's cups are coming In addition to the Salida Gomez Oreas we didn't eat yet How the hell is this Oreo cookie Reese's cups How the fuck is this that Never happened before I know

It's great They each tried a thousand things Before they did that I know Oreos and Reese's are like on Mount Rushmore of Craig what's the

biggest movie pairing that hasn't happened yet of two big actors who you're like, how have they never made a movie? Like Denzel and De Niro is something where you're like, how is they've never made a movie before? Denzel and Scorsesee. Yeah, Denzel and De Niro's a good one. I don't know. Leo and Cruz. Leo and Cruz? Have they been in a movie together?

This is what that feels like. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Bill would have an idea of who these actors are. Yeah, it's like Deadpool and Wolverine, you know? It finally happened. We've all been waiting. Someone two months ago asked, why have Leonardo DiCaprio and Tom Cruise not made a movie together?

I don't know. Probably because they both want to be the star of the movie. Yeah. Right. And I will just shout up Michael for reminding me to follow up in the guy who said they'd name a street, Guangie. We were going to, from Smallfoot. Oh, yeah.

We have a lot of things we need to follow up. The guy's email, the guy who was like, you know, developers when they make a big housing thing, they'll name streets, whatever. Was it in Washington? I don't remember where it was. By the way, This reminds me.

This reminds me. The no context ringer fantasy football account, the guy who runs that really, really wants you to follow up on the story about the classroom that was next to another classroom, which I so rudely interrupted you and made fun of you for saying that. No, because it's not a funny enough story

to like, it's been a month and it will be so disappointed. So you refused to tell the story. I'm never going to tell the story. Because it's not a funny enough story to like, It's not worthy of the building. There's no way it'll deliver. It's just a thing. That's like the Mitch Hedberg joke where he's like,

I hate when I was like a mumbling or something. I hate when people ask me what because then I'm just like screaming at them. That tree is far away. The tree is far away. All right. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you for listening. Thank you, Krily.

Thank you, Krily. Thank you, Austin. Thank everyone for listening. Emails at ringfancyfutball.groom. com or rancings or fancyfool. com. We have a draft tracker there. Follow us in Instagram, TikTok.

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The Clash. The Clash is a band. I think I kind of want to go back and actually listen to like everything they've done. I feel like I know a little about them, but I would like to actually like, they're on my short list of bands. I want to just actually hear.

Did you know that they did the, they actually had the original song for the, you know the MIA song? that got really popular with Oh, paper planes. The Flash actually had the original for that. Straight to hell. Go look that up.

Wow, that's cool. Which I thought was like common knowledge, I guess, but a lot of those are not as well known as you think. I think Craig's generation and I are starting to have the songs where the Zimmers don't know that it's a sample like the, like when Dochi does anxiety and it's just the Gotti, somebody I used to know, I know it's not got you. Dodea.

I don't have to, GOT. And then that's also. sample and like know what each three generations didn't know that you've previous one was a sample. Yeah, I guess I shouldn't, I shouldn't be totally certain that the clash didn't sample that either. But I think they're the original ones that did that. But yeah, they have some great hits, man. So many. Yeah, train and vein is an elite song.

Oh, the other one I saw, I might have mentioned this on the show before, but I saw Highfits in real time realize that regulators was a Michael McDonald's song. Yeah. because we are watching the yacht rock the yacht rock dock which is great by the way that blew my mind and I was just like oh my Michael McDonald's goat that blew my mind

I don't think I knew that either until I watched that dog oh man Warren G and also what's funny too is that that became the thing for fight night right you I don't know yes Migos fight night is Warren G had to regulate is so Michael McDonald is the source material for me

ghosts? No, I was unaware of this. I didn't know that. I don't know what that is. I love, I love finding like old. I do, I go and like search for like samples and stuff. I think it's really cool. That's to go to email, sereniphancyfuttle, gmail.com, like unexpected samples, like a source material. There's also a separate thing, which is sometimes the song they're sampling is like, you're like, how did you hear that? And like, that is the original thing of like, con you're doing a genius or whatever. It's just like sometimes you hear what producers make and what they hear and what they interpolate it and it turned it into.

And you're like, I actually interpolate. never, isn't that the word? Interpolate? I don't know. I think it is interpolate. No, it's not interpret. It's a word for that process of music. It's called interpolating a sample. No, it's a different word. That's good. No, I definitely did not make up interpreting. High Fitz, we can make his playlist. Remember how we made the crescendo playlist? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's playlist with the samples back. Someone's already done this. I already have it started so I can share some with you. There's a really cool sample. I forget who

they used, but one more time by Daft Punk. That like, that melody is like a really interesting sample from an old song that I saw on some old video but it's really interesting that's a good one. There's a good New York Times article about making sicko mode with Travis Scott because it's like about how samples work because I think at the time the Travis Scott the sicko mode because you know it's like he made three songs

into one song or he has a Drake sample that he or Drake verse he's like half of it and he took like two songs and made it one and I think it had the most writing credits. I think Sickomod actually might still have the most writing credits of any songs ever been made that was like popular and the New York Times had this breakdown of like how writing credits work now

because it's crazy complicated. Yeah, Beyonce has like a zillion for her songs. Yeah. But also because now it's all building on each other and now it's like, oh, it's like you want to use this.

Like, like, like, like, like, give me the loop by Biggie, but that uses like three songs. Yeah,

it's like exponential. Yes, how much. Nesting dolls. Yeah. It is. Honestly, that is sample nesting dolls.

E-mails that. Ring or Fancy FootballGemel.com. Examples of sample. nesting dolls. I kind of want to hear that. I like that stuff. Yeah. All right. A good example, Mariah Carey's fantasy. Yes. Boom. Excellent. Yeah. Excellent call. Which is, we are still trying to license Mariah if you are listening. If anyone knows Mariah, email us. A very affordable price. Boom. You have enough money? Come on. That's your pitch. Yeah, it is. Go with that, huh? Come on. Goodbye, everyone, but especially Mariah.

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