The Ringer NFL Show - Seahawks-Steelers Chaos, Russell Wilson’s Imaginary Huddle, and Week 6 Awards

Episode Date: October 18, 2021

Seahawks fan Danny Kelly and Steelers fan Craig Horlbeck react to the bizarre ‘Sunday Night Football’ game between Seattle and Pittsburgh, including Russell Wilson’s unique pregame warm-up routine, before giving out our awards for an eventful Week 6 of football. We introduce new awards, including the I’m Not Mad, Just Disappointed Award, as well as The Memento Award for the Player You Must Remind Yourself Never to Start. Email us at [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck and Mike Wargon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Let's help everybody. I'm JJ John G. And I'm Jason Gough, and if you haven't heard, the ringer has gone local. I'm bringing the fire. I'm bringing the rain from the Big Apple with my show, New York, New York. And I'm reping Shy Town with my new show The Full Go on All Things Chicago. We've got episodes three nights a week with all the reaction to the local teams and guests. Plus bonus episodes around all the big games and storylines.

So whether you're uptown, downtown, downtown, in the burbs, or a transplant. Make sure you follow New York, New York, and the full go on Spotify or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Heifitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck. What a time to be alive. Week 6 is done except for money and football. But Sunday games are done and we give out awards every week.

And the first award, the loser, a loser that stands out is Danny Kelly because he just watched the Seahawks lose in overtime and then has to immediately record a podcast with Craig and I. D.K., your immediate thoughts. Seahawks. just lost. It turns out that even without Russell Wilson, the Seahawks are still the Seahawks.

I think teams have like a certain DNA and every game that the Seahawks play is a complete nutter circus. So that was fun. Went to overtime. It looked like it was going to get kind of exciting there, but it was a little bit anticlimactic

when Gino Smith fumbled deep, deep in Pittsburgh's end there, and then that was it. But yeah, fun game. Fun times. Craig, how you feeling? Playoff bound, baby. Never a doubt. Seahawks are

CX are two and four now and they don't have a first round pick The Jets have their first round pick The Steelers are also a loser I'm a loser Like that we didn't play well We're all losers We watched that

The whole I watched the whole thing I'm a loser I didn't even have a dog in the fight The Seahawks are giving up An NFL record amount of yards per game And they started Gino Smith And it was tied with three minutes left In overtime in Pittsburgh

It's a nightmare Yeah It's a nightmare When you put it that way It makes me feel a little bit better actually If we didn't have TJ Wobob I don't know what we would do. Double the man's salary,

put him at quarterback. I don't know. Yeah, what a horrible, horrible eyesore of a game. I guess I'm happy we won. I don't know. It doesn't matter.

I guess. I mean, the funniest outcome for that game would have been basically Ben Rothesburg leading a game winning drive and then convincing the Steelers that he's the guy.

For a whole other year. But, DK, I kind of want to come back to D. D.K. kind of put up his shield, his deflection. where he was like, yeah, fun times.

DK, it's all right. Let us in. How did that feel? I mean, to be totally honest with you, I've already sort of like accepted that this season is just not going to be very good for Seahawks. I mean, Russell Wilson is starting for four or five weeks. What is he supposed to feel?

I mean, how... Yeah, I mean, I came in expecting to get blown out. So I guess in some way, the Seahawks got me by, you know, kind of like getting me to, like, actually think they might win. That was, like, sort of like, how I feel right now. I never really came into the game thinking that they were going to win. So I don't feel that bad.

But it was just like, man, every time the Seahawks play, it just turns into this game that is going to come down to the end, and it's the total circus, and there's weird plays. Like, D.K. Metcalf fumbling the ball. Like, can't you just run out of bounds? Like, why does it always have to be like this? I don't know. I loved it.

I think it was 14-0, and they came back from break. And Chris Collinsworth was like, I didn't realize how much Russell Wilson meant to this offense. I was like, what the hell are you talking about? I heard that. there is one silver lining, Hyphitz, I would say, and it's that

Seahawk fans are not going to be like, look, we can go forward with Gino Smith at quarterback, or we should move on from Russell Wilson because there is a not insignificant segment

of probably the Seahawks fandom that just thinks the Seahawks should move on from Russell Wilson. What? Oh yeah. Dude, it's been this long-standing thing. It's like the Q&ON of Seattle?

Like, who is saying that he's a frustrating quarterback? He holds onto the ball too much. They went to two Super Bowls and he won one. He takes terrible, annoying sacks. Yeah, look, I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying there is a subset of Seahawks' Twitter, or Seahawks fandom, I should say,

that is just like ready to move on. They're either ready to move on from Russell or move on for Pete. I don't think anybody is like, let's keep going. Let's keep doing this. Pete and Russ forever. It's all just like, there's a scapego, and it's either Pete or Russ. And it turns out it's just really like the defense is atrocious.

I have, I think the funniest, possible thing that could happen in sports in general as we find out that all of the sports were always rigged and that we were ridiculous for thinking that they were real. And I only really ever think about that when I watched the Seahawks play because the Seahawks feel like every game they do in prime time is scripted. The D.K. Metcalf fumble would make a lot more sense if it was like a W.W.E. wrestler who was late to move. It was like, oh, I'm supposed to fumble here. I can't got a bounds yet. I loved the ref running after.

Who recovered the fumble, Swain? I don't know who was. That guy sprinted back to set the ball on his own. And the ref, the ref is doing like full windsprints behind him to follow him to just touch the ball. The receiver set the ball where he wanted. And the ref just touched it.

And then they snapped it and spiked it. And then the whole chaos ensued. That was ridiculous with the whole time it then. I actually think they got it exactly right. Yeah, they did. As ridiculous as it looked. Okay. Well, I just wanted to kind of mind D.K.'s sadness for a moment.

That was just an absolutely ridiculous game. That kind of was exactly what I thought would happen, but you never know exactly what's going to happen. DK., for a seventh-round pick, would you trade for Ben right now to have him until Russ comes back? For a seventh? No, probably not. I mean, I don't know. I think, I mean, Ben can probably fumble without moving. Do you think Ben?

So you're asking me, is Ben better than Gino? And I would probably say, not appreciably. I was going to say the other way around, like, Craig, wouldn't you rather have Gino? Smith running the Steelers? We're three and three, baby. What are you talking about? Absolutely not. We're killing it.

Does T.J. Watt come in that deal. T.J. Watt is unbelievable and is the only reason we won the game. I'm trying to think, would you rather have Ben or Drew Locke running the Steelers? Drewlock. I just looked at him. It's like, what's the worst quarterback I could think of that actually could win a starting job? Yeah, I take true. These teams are pathetic.

All right. And also, obviously, we hope the Darrow, Darrow Taylor is okay. The defensive of Seattle who had the horrific. That was very scary. All right. We're recording this Monday night, so,

or Sunday night, Monday morning. Hopefully he's all right. All right. Want to get to rest of the awards? Yeah. Okay. Yeah,

let's flush that game. Let's talk about someone else. That game was something. All right. Biggest winner of the week, Dek, why don't you, why don't you,

we spread some positivity here, DK? Who's the biggest winner of the week for you? All right. Big winner this week is, random fill-in backup running backs, aka all those people that went anchor RB or zero RB and just wanted to rely on backups

and guys getting hurt and all that stuff, this is your week. Lots of guys, lots of backup running back scored points this week and a lot of points. Darrell Williams for the Chiefs, 23.9 and PPR. Khalil Herbert, 19.2. Vatavis Murray. In fact, all three of the Ravens running backs,

which were all previously, I believe, either on practice squads or just sitting on their couch, scored touchdowns for the Ravens this week. Chuba Hubbard. Wait a minute. So the Ravens running back, so it's, that's Devonthe Latavius Murray and. And Lev Bell. So those are like the three horsemen of the apocalypse.

We just need Todd Gurley to sign with the Ravens. I was thinking, they need a name. They need like a name. I was trying to think of movies with like a bunch of old actors. What about expendables three? Because there's three of them? Wild Hogs. What's the Wild Hogs?

What's that Wild Hoggs movie? Wild Hogs with John Travolta. Wild Hogg. The bucket list is pretty good too. I thought expendable three made a lot of sense, but all right. Expendables is good. If they sign Gurley, it's like the four horsemen at the running back apocalypse. Can we Vegas?

You ever seen that one? Oh my God. Hey, can we do a quick aside, Hyfitz real quick and acknowledge the fact that Todd Gurley is still not in the league and these three guys are scoring touchdowns for the Ravens. So I want the whole season. However, you're at the point where I would revisit the episode because the top of my head, I think I offered you $30 to $1.10.

Yeah, I was going to say it's 30-something to $1 on $10. And we're going to have to revisit it. You shouted me down about that. And it was hurtful. I will pay. I will pay. If Todd Gurley, I really hope it wasn't $30 to $1.00. No, ifs.

I won the bet. You said ever again. That was why I offered $30 to $1. If it goes to the whole season. We will check the tape. I'm pretty sure I said he's not coming out of a team when the season starts, but I could be wrong. anyway. Going back to what I was saying.

Yes, you were right about that and you were right about many things. The Ravens who guys are scored, but the weird part about this list you have, Dorel Williams, Khalil Herbert, Latavis Mare Chubut, or Devonty Booker kind of sucked. All these other guys scored like immediately. They all scored in the first half of the first quarter.

Yeah. It was like instant gratification. Your strategy worked. Congratulations. Now you get to enjoy the rest of your Sunday. Don't sweat who this Khalil Herbert guy is. He's going to be all right. So, yeah.

He actually did look pretty good. The flip side to the random running. backs doing well. What you do host is my winner of the week? Is the RB-1s? Like the good guys that you drafted really high. Like there are so many underperforming elite or borderline elite running backs that really like underperformed that today crushed it.

Like Jonathan Taylor had 29 points. So like the first month of the season, Jonathan Taylor was the RB-19. The last two weeks, he's like the number one running back. So he's back. Joe Mixon had his best game of the year. Dalvin Cook, who has been really frustrating because when he's hurt but splitting time with Alexander Madison,

which seemed like would be the case today, turns out, no, he got like 29 carries he had the best game of his season for Dalvin Cook after people thought it was frustrating. People were wondering about Aaron Jones and like losing workload to AJ Dylan. Aaron Jones had his best game since week too. And then Zeke Elliott, there was this thing

from a few weeks ago, oh, like is Tony Pollard going to eat into Zeke's rushing workload? Guess what? Today, Zeke ate into Tony Poller's receiving work. Zeeq had 50 yards receiving He was 80 by overtime But like still Zique had 20 plus points Zick had the second most

receiving yards he's had in three years Like this was just a very affirming week For people who've had running back Like top elite running backs That you invested a lot in That were like kind of middling for you And this was like oh right these guys are great Yeah added Naji Harris had a big game too

Yep Hines touchdown Yeah there's like very it is It does feel almost like it's like feast or famine, it's like that mid-level range, like definitely the running back dead zone was not, is not giving you what you wanted. But even like the second tier of running backs is a little bit iffy.

So it's either, it's either, you know, the big name guys or these backup players that you never heard of. I mean, like Alex Collins, we didn't even, like, I don't think we talked about Alex Collins one time during the off season. And he came in, he was like the starter. Should have been Rashad Penny. Kind of weird. Oh, yeah, Rashad Penny.

Well, you bet you're to your point, though, like we did talk about anchor running back all off season. And like the running back dead zone, half of the guys we were right about, the other half, like, we might have been wrong, but they got hurt. Like David Montgomery might have been good, but now he's on IR and that's kind of over. Chris Carson, I mean, he's on IR and then collides on IR, but he was bad before he got put on IR. Jacob Dobbins never made it. And then Miles Sanders is probably the single most frustrating player that was drafted in the top 50, period. Yeah. But this is why you do stars and scrubs RBs

because those first-running backs, if they're healthy, they hit, you know? Like pretty much all the time. Receivers, you can't say the same thing. Look at like Stefan Biggs. Look at almost every second round receiver you took is not panning out. But those RBs, man, if they're healthy,

they are always good. Yeah, okay. So running backs are doing well. Craig, who's your winner of the week? Yeah, I want to pick the one guy in the dead zone who's kind of like made his way through the mud this year. It's Daryl Henderson, who's quietly one of the best fantasy running backs in the league.

He has yet to finish worse than RB20 in a single week this season in PPR. He's extremely consistent. He's put up 15, 15, 14, 16, and 23 in the five games he's played. He's getting massive workloads. Sony Michelle's not eating into his workload at all, really. He's averaging almost 100 yards a game. And the Rams are just destroying teams. And their next three games are against the Lions, the Texans, and the Titans.

Like, Daryl Henderson is a legit RB1. This makes me so worried, Craig, because you were hyphen up. cam acres before the year putting all those you're just getting back on the horse, aren't you? What am I supposed to do? Firing up the old Craig curse. It's time for Jake Funk.

Detroit, Houston, Tennessee the next three weeks almost makes me wonder if Darrell Henderson somehow like a trade candidate. Right. Go get him even though you have to pay high. I mean, yeah, he had a hundred ten yards and two touchdowns today. I know, but I see like a top four running back

over the next three week period. This also bums me out because it makes me wonder how good Cam Acres could have been. Oh yeah. Yeah. To your point though, Craig, I do agree with you a lot. Like, under the radar. He is exactly, he is getting the

like the Cam Acres role essentially, which we didn't, I don't know if we really thought that would happen because like coming into the year, there's the writing was on the wall. It was like, oh, they're trying to replace Darrell Henderson, you know. And they drafted a guy in the second round after taking Henderson. They didn't really play Henderson all that much when he was here before Acres guy. and so they must not like him

it's kind of like the thinking and then they traded for Sony Michelle but despite all that he's still getting like all the workload he's still the lead guy in a really good offense that's scoring a ton of points and he looks good so yeah I definitely I'm really hoping that he can continue

to stay healthy and do what he's doing because it's just really fun to watch DK who's your biggest loser of week six so hyphen this is a term watching this game yeah besides the Sunday night football debacle. Fantasy Entropy, which is a term that one of our listeners coined last year. Basically,

it's useless fantasy points, useless points in the fantasy realm. Wasted points. Players that are not in any starting lineups or very, very few starting lineups around the world. Here's a list. I'm just going to read it quickly of people who scored touchdowns today,

and that fantasy production just evaporated into the ether. Lavian Bell, Devonte Freeman, Elijah Penny, by the way, maybe the better Penny brother at this point? Well, Elijah Penny made a tackle today in special teams without a helmet. I remember, I was smiling while he was bringing the guy down. I was like, that's a fucking badass.

Rishon Penny could never. As I'm wearing a San Diego State hat, how dare you? You are? I didn't even notice. Oh, well, that's okay. Paris Campbell, K.J. Osborne, Alan Lazard, DeMarcus. Auden Tate, Blake Jarwin, C.J. Uzoma. Chris Evans, the running back, not the actor. Captain America.

Mo Ali Cox. Mo Ali Cox. Eric Frickin Ebron. Donovan People's Jones scored twice, and Kenyon scored twice. And Kenyon Drake scored 12 snaps last week. So anyways, I just wanted to say, pour a little bit out for like all the fantasy production. We can't mention for Sean. That's like Chris Herndon scored a touchdown. Yeah, did you skip Chris Herndon? What the hell? No, I said it. Did I say it? Well, if I didn't say it, I apologize. Chris Herndon. Your brain just like Your brain doesn't let you see things that hurt you It's like the devil share Do you guys know about the devil share or whatever In whiskey?

It's like the portion of whiskey that evaporates When they're storing it This is the fantasy devil share Wow I think that's what's called I've never heard that I'm gonna Google it That's a good name for a brand of whiskey kind of

That actually is a great I think it is I think there is something that's called that There's no way where the first person Be like that should be a whiskey There's zero chance I'm pretty sure there is Okay

If you had to pick one guy From that list, DK, that is Will be relevant Oh God This list of like random guys Who would have been From this list of guys That will be relevant this season?

Yes I think it comes down to two players Well, I would say Kenyon Drake, based on his usage Might be going forward With John Gruden out I don't know because they paid him a lot of money.

But I would say more realistically, KJ Osborne is still part of that offense in Minnesota. And then Chris Evans, I think, has an opportunity to sort of work his way into a bigger role. Because every time he touches the ball, he looks good. He's a very good receiver. He's like the Pollard to the mixing and Zeke. Like, he looks awesome, Chris Evans, Captain America.

I thought there were two obvious answers here, and like you didn't hit either of them. You were going to say Paris Campbell and who else? No. No? I was going to Donovan People's Jones for the Browns because he's young and like a crazy athlete and Odette and like kind of getting better as a receiver and Odell Beckham might be hurt and if Odell misses any time, People's Jones is actually really interesting to me. And then Devante Freeman, if Latavius Murray is not okay because I think he was banged up. Dante Freeman is like the starting running back for the Ravens.

I just refuse to acknowledge this should have been in the refuse to acknowledge the good at fantasy thing probably because they are. I have done. Tyson Williams was another healthy scratch. I have, DK. I totally just step there. Just do it now, then, Craig. I have to shout at Tyson Williams was another healthy scratch for Baltimore today.

Son of a bitch. Like, it is the old guys running that team. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, yeah, the Brandon Cooks Award for the player, you don't want to acknowledge it's good at fantasy. The Ravens are running backs. It's just a mess. So I was looking back

ever since they bench Tyson Williams, who was good and was like actually putting up good numbers. Ever since they bench Tyson Williams, which is after week two, so week three on, not a single running back on the Ravens has had more than, than 59 yards in a game.

And all of the Ravens running backs have not had more than 68 yards in a game since they benched Tyson and Williams. It is bad. Freeman, Latavius, and Levion. What did it? Nine, nine and eight carries. They all had T-Ds.

I don't care about any of them. I don't want any of them. The expendables three wild hogs whatever want to call them. I'm going to leave them on the bench. Well, if Latavius Murray is hurt and it's just Devante Freeman-Levion Bell, that's two guys and that's the bucket list.

That's expendables two? What? Because the bucket list is two guys, right? No, not. Oh, okay. I see how funny. I see you hit there. Okay.

Anyway, let's move on. By the way, hey, real quick, I think it's actually called the Angels Share. And then there's another thing called the Devil's Cut for all you whiskey people out there that are very angry at me right now. Speaking of those two things, someone, I saw a joke the other day that was the closest you ever get to be like being a ghost is when you're listening to a podcast, discuss a trivia question. And you know the answer, but they can't hear you. Yeah. Which I imagine people listening to this have experienced a lot. Why did that pop into your head?

Because I said something factually incorrect and all the whiskey condescaries are probably just like pulling their hair. I'm like, we can't hear. So the devil's cut refers to the loss of distillate, which is absorbed by the wood of the castes. And then I guess the angel share is what evaporates, I think. Let's really dive into this. Let's take our time here. Yeah, we'll talk about this later. Intel, this is great and terrible content.

It's too late. We got the gist. Actually, I think it's very fascinating. The gist. Let's move on. Other losers, other than everyone who had to just hear that conversation, and you'll never get those time back in your life. My losers of the week, people who started

guys in their fantasy teams who were injured and then immediately got hurt again, including a lot of people who probably started Cadarist Tony, who was great on the first drive for the Giants, three catches, 36 yards, hurts his ankle again, and then leaves the game. Because he had an ankle injury, made it worse left. Tonyo Gibson playing on a shin fracture. Fun fact, shin fractures.

Don't get better throughout the season. He left in the first half against the Chiefs. Terry McLaurin had a hamstring injury. Don't know how much that mattered, but he had 28 yards, so that's not good. Mike Williams had a knee injury all week. I don't know if he heard of the knee again, but he got hurt in that game. Two catches for 27 yards. Kareem Hunt for the Browns was banged up all week, but he had to play because Nick Chubb was out, and Kevin Stafansky, the Brown's coach, literally, I'm quoting him, said, I don't want to kill Kareem, end quote, this week. And then Kareem got hurt playing.

So, like, admittedly, some guys who were hurt played very well. Dalvin Cook was hurt and was incredible this week. DeAndre Hopkins was sick all week and he played great. Having said that, do we just overthink all of these starts-sit decisions? Should you just almost always play the healthy person if it's even close? Yeah. I think if that's the tiebreaker, yeah. Yeah, but.

Definitely. Dalvin Cook and DeAndre Hopkins are the reason why we don't do that. Yes, but for the star of the star guys, you play Dalvin Cook when he plays. I mean, you play DeAndi Hopkins. Craig, Craig, we're talking process here, not necessarily just these specific results. Like, I don't know if this is going to be a regular thing every week where all the guys who are on the injury or who are on the injury list during the week got hurt immediately. But I think it is an interesting question. Like, should we be maybe like paying more attention?

to the injury report. These guys are coming up hurt late in the week or they're doing limited on Friday. They did not practice on Thursday. Like that should be way more scary, I feel like, to a lot of us. And I kind of just shrug it off. Ah, they're tough.

They'll play through it. Yeah, it's also getting rid of the probable designation has just made the questionable thing just absolutely awful. That's the real loser. Differentially. Yeah. The questionable tag is the real loser.

It's questionable really has such a wide range of outcomes now that it actually takes real work. Doesn't mean anything. To figure out the difference between these guys. Like, it's easy to look back on Tony Gibson this week, be like, I can't believe if I played a guy who had a shin fracture in a game. But like, he's been dealing with it. He's managing it.

Yeah. We'll see how it hurt he is. Anyway, I just, you just watch five of those guys go down and you're like, oh, maybe just hurt guys. So especially a bummer about Cadarious Tony, too, because he had three catches on the first drive. and then they looked incredible and then of course he just immediately went out. I'm going to step on a different category right now since you brought that up.

The Giants had two very important players hurt playing in this game. Cadarious Tony at the ankle injury. Daniel Jones was recovering from a concussion and he played. Cadarish Tony got out in the first drive. Daniel Jones, who is the starting quarterback for the team, was in this game

when it was like 38 to 3 with like five minutes left. They were playing the quarterback who was concussed seven days earlier, which like, he probably had to run laps after the game. It's because he fumbled twice or whatever, too. Like my, so like the thing I want to step on is like like garbage time. I don't remember the category. I'm so mad. Like the lions like garbage deceiving yards, whatever.

DeAndre Swift got a touchdown very similar. It's like 31 to 3 and the lion's like literally like 90 seconds left have DeAndre Swift going to get a touchdown, which is crazy to me. But at least I get it from a competitiveness. standpoint, we don't give up. Dan Campbell's a crazy guy and like they love him for that I get that. But Daniel Jones being in the game when he's like already dealing with a head injury is crazy to me. Am I like, am I missing something? No, I'm totally with you. I don't know why any of these quarterbacks are. Despite the like set aside the fact that he was recovering from a concussion.

Like why was Herbert? They were down 34 to 6 with like four minutes left and Herbert's like in there trying to like make throws. I don't understand it. What is the point? get like generally speaking it's like hey like you can't be afraid on the field like you can't have players be afraid to get hurt when you're out there even if it's a reality but like there is a point where it's reckless but to me the point of recklessness is when the guys have already been hurt or staying out there i don't know the NBA does it all the time i mean like if the warriors are up 25 and the fourth step won't play the fourth like what's the i don't get it why is it not the same in football no i'll tell i'll tell you why the different the main difference is that in the NBA it's

not physical. They're trying to, like, it's not physical. Like, you don't have to physically dominate your opponent. Leaving the game in the NFL suggests, like, like, anything that strikes, I think, fear, like, oh, I have to get out of this game because I could get hurt. No one makes it to the NFL being afraid to get hurt on the field. I don't know. I feel like you're kind of helping my argument.

The fact that, like, football is incredibly dangerous. Like, I don't think it's paradox. Like, no one gets to the NFL being afraid to hit people. I know, but do you think Justin Herbert, if they sit here? him with six minutes left in the fourth, he's like, well, now I'm afraid to go back in because they think I might get hurt. That's where I agree, though. That's why it's the coach's job. It's ridiculous. Makes no sense.

No, I agree. It's fucking nuts. Anyway, God damn it. Okay. I'm the biggest loser as well. All right. I don't even know where we're at. Who are other losers? You guys want to talk about the devil's cut more? No. Move on. Okay. My loser is the Seahawks wide receivers until Russ comes back.

Yeah, thanks. Sorry, just to bring it back. Just rub it in. I mean, D.K. and Lockett, there's just nothing going on there. They play New Orleans next week. Like, you could say I mean, I guess there may be flex plays. Well, I don't, let me

let me play devil's at the devil's cut advocate here. Devil's advocat. The Steelers D was really good tonight. And if T.J. Watt doesn't bat down a bunch of these passes, like could this offense be do you think this offense would be better against a average defense?

I mean, sure. Yeah. I guess so. Like, like, like, D.K. Metcalf is like a no question. starter against an average defense. D.K. McCaff is still like a, I would say he's still someone you definitely want to start. You want to put him in your flex spot at least. Yeah, but like, Tyler Lockett, Tyler Lockett to me, if you sit him, I don't care. Like, I think that's fine going forward.

And we talked about this on the green room this morning. The reason that you love Lockett so much coming to the year is because he has this immediate and instant connection with Russell Wilson. It's like a mind meld. And they hit these huge 60-yard moonshot balls down the game, like literally almost every it feels like and that's like the huge value in locket locket's not a ppr machine he's not a he's not he's not going to make i don't think he's going to make very many big plays with gino smith especially with the way that the cx were pass protecting um to your point about playing a less or like a more

average defense or a different styled defense like the thing that scared me about sealers coming in as the ceox fan was the sealers defensive front is so much better than the ceox offense line and i think i saw from espn um i can't remember why i saw this on on twitter but The Seahawks had like a 30% pass block win rate. In other words, they were losing their pass blocks two thirds out of the time in this game, which is really, really terrible. And so that just kind of gives you an idea like what this passing game is working with. That's kind of like your, the pass block win rate there, it's kind of like a good baseball hitter

and you should really be like a good free throw shooter. Exactly. You should, you should like blow a few like blocks a game maybe. I don't know, not like three quarters of them or two thirds of them. So the other thing is The CX never would have been in this game if they couldn't have run the ball. That was like Alex Collins

honestly almost took over this game. I don't know where I was in the CX chat. We were like, where's this blocking coming from? I did not expect the Seahawks to be good at blocking in the run game. But that was like the thing that kept them in the game because Gino Smith sure wasn't doing it. Like Gino Smith played fine. He was like good for backup,

but he wasn't keeping them in this game. It was the run game. And the fact that they were playing big, Ben. And so I don't know. I'm not very confident going forward like what this offense could do. To the point that we originally started with, I think you should sit Tyler Lockett going forward until

something different happens. We have not talked about can we just spend a second to talk about Russell Wilson running through a simulated game alone on the field in the pregame? When D.K. says Tyler Lockett is a mind melancho with Russell Wilson. It's like, oh, what does chemistry mean? Chemistry means Russell Wilson out there just

doing the whole. He was talking to people in the huddle. like without no anyone there. Like he was having fake conversations, which even Tom Brady probably thinks that's out there. Is it so corny. It's so corny. He's a psycho.

But like he made it to the NFL, though. He did it. Like it works. Like it's easy to make fun of him. It's crazy. He's 5.11. He was a short stop. And he fucking made it to the NFL because he talks to people who aren't there.

And it worked. It's so lame. It is. What are you? guys do. I don't, I really, really honestly, legitimately, genuinely do not want to sound like a Russell Wilson apologist, but like he's talked about this his entire career, like visualization, how important visualization is to him. He's talked about, he's talked about, wait, wait, wait, let me finish. He's talked about how he goes into the stadium. Every stadium he goes to, everyone,

everywhere he's playing, he goes in, he walks around on the field. He wants to know exactly what it looks like when he's like trying to find where the playcock is, where the game clock is, whether whether the lights are going to look weird if he's looking in any certain direction. Like I actually kind of like appreciate this about him. He's so fucking detail-oriented. I mean, he's not playing today, but all this said, all that said, this was incredibly,

all this said is incredibly corny and I agree with you. I was like, I cringed when I saw that. However, I do kind of appreciate the detail. We don't need to, yes, we all know Russell Wilson's good and he's a hall of famer and he's detail-oriented. It was still super lame. Can we at least admit that? He's like whispering.

The fact that he's just while not playing, I get like wanting to keep in your, your rhythm. The reality is part of me also is like doing for the cameras. I also, it's hard not to wonder if he's doing it for the cameras. A hundred percent he is. A guy that's like obsessed with like being Tom Brady and like having the legacy. Image. It's hard not to wonder if part of it's because he doesn't know what else to do before a game

because he's never had to do anything else. And part of me is also like it would be really cool for this to be part of his legacy 10 years from now. When in his mind, he'll have seven more Super Bowl wins. Why is this? Well, I don't think this is cool to be a part of his legacy. Russell Wilson, I think he thinks it's cool. Dude, I don't know, man.

Look, you're questioning what, like, what Russell Wilson thinks is cool? Have you seen any of the things he does? Oh, God. Look, I like to make fun of Russell Wilson, like the rest of us here. Him on a knee calling a play was just the funniest thing I've ever seen, I think. Also, by the way, he went out and did the coin toss, like in the overtime. And everyone was like, what is this guy doing? You're on IR.

You know why the other thing about visualizing. This is such a random thing, but in that, that, I don't even, I was, I'm trying to curse the cluster, you know what, of the time down problem at the end of the fourth quarter when the time almost ran out and there was just chaos in the field. Russ goes to the ref and is talking to him and put, and does like, you know, the LeBron, like put your hand over your mouth to cover the conversation. But his hand was so far from his face. You could see exactly what he was saying. I thought it was like the funniest thing. You could see everything he was like. And I was like, oh, maybe that's ways to visualize things because if he just doesn't practice it, he's awful at it.

I just like, what is, like, when Ciara's at home watching, is she like, that's my man. What a, what a boss. Look at him out there. Colin plays to ghosts. I mean, probably self-beloose. I do. I think, I kind of think she is.

But yeah. I don't want to know what he's like, like, on a Saturday night, like, playing cards with his friends. Like, is he ever normal? Does he ever have a normal conversation? doubt it doubt it we also went through

this whole thing without being like he literally named his nicknameed himself Mr. Unlimited yeah it's all it's all bad do you think he workshoped that

with his imaginary huddle hey look Russell Wilson didn't play himself like he wasn't even like the worst Seahawks Seahawk player to play himself tonight in terms of like getting memed like

Jawah Adams Jesus Christ can we talk about that for a second he was like on the best safety in the world and it's like 62nd out of 80 and real football focus creating

ball hits him in the head dude the ball hit him in the head the face oh okay let's move on I'm glad that we came back to all that

at least Ben puts juice on passes that are going to be intercepted so people don't catch you all hit him in the crease of the helmet where his eyes are it couldn't have been closer

to his eyeballs if it gets lodged in his face mask is that an interception I think so count as a catch gotta count sure he should

be whining it he should be widen his face max so it's a perfect size for a football. What award does what award does Jamal Adams? He just starts throwing his head in the way of the passes. Like a dolphin coming out of the water. Get it off of me. Yeah.

We're losing it. Oh, my God. We are losing it. This is what happens when a game goes to overtime and we have to report after. No, I'm so glad we circled back. I would have felt like an absolute failure if we had not hit that Russell Wilson and that Jamal Adam's stuff. No one's going to remember Russell Wilson whispering to himself on the field because Chmawah Adams

played himself. Anyway, let's move on. I got bad news. No one's going to remember the Jamal Adams stuff because Russell Wilson talked to an imaginary huddle. All right. Let's move on. All right. I don't know if you guys know this, but I actually do the whole pod before we do the pod with no mic. I just sit

in the Zoom. I visualize what it's going to be like. I'm just talking alone in an office. I appreciate your dedication. That's good. Oh, my God. I literally can't even move on. This is too fun. I'm going to start doing that. I'm going to start doing that at our prep bets. so I start getting one right.

How about that? I'm starting to start visualize. Sharks. Okay, sharks. I need to get a prop bet right. So not just, not many, just one. That's all. All right.

Let's go the Dad Award. This is the award. We're not mad. We're just disappointed. Yeah. You're the Dad. And I'm going to start out with T. Higgins for the Bengals.

I still think you're very good, Teahens. I think you're a really good player, very talented. However, it just hasn't been as fun as I expected. It hasn't been as like not as big, not big explosive plays, not touchdowns.

7.4 points in PPR last week, 10 this week. I mean, or sorry, 10 last week, 7.4 this week. And this is in games where the Bengals, he can't even really blame the Bengals' offense anymore because they are passing more because they're in more competitive games. The game scripts are more advantageous. So I don't know, I'm just kind of like bummed out about T. Higgins. I'm very happy about Chase, Jamar Chase being really, really good.

He's like one of the all-time rookie receivers already. And that's exciting. But I thought there'd be more, you know, to go around in this offense, the T. Higgins would be like a wide receiver two that you could rely on every week. It's just not happening yet. He obviously is coming off an injury. So that could be contributing to it. But yeah, I would just say it's been, I'm not mad.

I'm just a little bit disappointing so far. I think you nailed it with that one line. You just said, which is just I thought there would be more, which describes a lot of life. Yeah. My, my, I'm not, like, I'm not mad. I'm not mad, Alan. All the Allen's in the NFL.

I'm just disappointed. Alan Robinson, which I don't want to beat a dead horse. It's going to say, Alan Robinson did have 53 receiving yards today. He's the wide receiver 63 on the season. Entering today, I think that will fall. All I want to ask you guys, want to ask you a simple question. If Darnell Mooney was the wide receiver,

63 entering today and then had 53 yards would you even think twice about cutting him in like every league you're in? Probably not.

Mm-mm. I'm gonna just leave that there. Just let it linger. Let it marinate with everyone. The other one... Wash over us. I just want to hit is Keenan Allen who I'm not mad.

I'm not mad. But I am disappointed with Keenan Allen. Yeah. Yeah. An antilitic stat that should be tracked is games where you think to yourself, that's why I drafted this guy.

Keenan Allen has zero. He's been fine. Even Tyler Lockett has more than that, yeah. But Keenan Allen has not had a single game where he's like, that's why I drafted. He has one touchdown on the season. Maybe it even's out. But my God, when I have to come to this podcast every week and Craig's like, oh, Mike Williams, oh my God, one of the best calls in the whole podcast we've ever had, right, guys?

And then I'm like, I'm fucking Keenan Allen in my team. and I feel an idiot. I am growing to resent him. That's all. That sounded a lot like me. It sounded a lot like me. It's well done. I do.

I will say, I think that, I think the big games are coming still with Kenan. I know I said that for today. He did start with two 100-yard games to start the season. I think it's going to happen. Like, really good quarterback.

Still is a good offense. Very good players still. Just a little disappointing. I'm just saying like all you hear about for the first month out of season is Herbert, Mike Williams, the Chargers, they're great. And I'm like,

oh, cool. so I got all the every part of the Keenan Allen thing right except the guy I took. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's not cool. It sucks anyway. I'm maybe a little mad and disappointed.

Craig. All right. I'm not mad at Darren Waller. I'm not mad at him. I'm just a little disappointed. I mean, it was like Travis Kelsey. Oh, maybe I wait around and I get Darren Waller and he's kind of the same thing. Week one, he had 19 targets.

Oh, my God. That worked out. I'm super proud of you, son. Then the next five weeks, he has 33 targets. 19 targets in week one, 33 targets in the next five weeks. Here are his finishes from week two to six as a tight end. Week two, he was the tied end 10, then he was the tight end. 15, then 10, then 19, then 14.

He has not been a top 10 tight end, essentially, since week one. Really? It's getting bleak for Darren. The Raiders had 34 points today, and he was the tight end 14? D.K. Just did the... I'm not mad. D.K. just did the... Really?

In a way that I can tell he has no Darren Waller on any of his 22 teams? No, I do have one Darren Waller team. I just... That just is crazy to me still. He gets like 50 yards a game. You know, I'm not mad at that. It's just not what I'm expecting.

It's not ruining you, but it's not really winning you any games either, you know? It's one of those things. It's like that purgatory. Yeah, you got into college. Like, congrats. He would... He was one of the, he was like a league winner to last year, I think.

That's what we like came into the season with so much expectations. But yeah, it's not happened so far. With Waller, I think with both Keenan Allen and Darren Waller, though, like I think, I think we'll be changing our tune soon here. You're saying, Bailow? We might have to do a real power hour, like a Bilo. Like this is the crunch time for Bilo season. Six weeks in, trade deadlines on the horizon.

We're going to have to go deeper on these guys. Okay. We're disappointed. Flip side, Derek Henry Award for guys that we just desperately wish we had in fantasy. Luckily, Derek Henry's on Monday at football, so we can actually take a break from just saying it's Derek Henry. Yeah. So I think that, I think one of us has said this pretty much every week, other than like one or two weeks, but it's Cooper Cup again. I mean, 12 targets, nine catches, 130 yards, two touchdowns, 34 points of PBR, just going absolutely bonkers. He took one week off to let Bobby Trees do his thing. Yeah, like, you know, they got the squeaky wheel game out of the way.

Bobby Tree scored today because, of course, he scored against the Giants where I had to watch. Godfitts. You're giant. He did, but, I mean, he had two catches, but yeah. Yeah, I just wish I had Cooper Cup on every one of my teams. That'd be better. So if two years ago, we were like, oh, Bobby Trees, Robert Forrest is Cinderella. What is the story now, Craig?

Oh, God. That's a great question. I'm not sure. It's like Prince Charming rides off with Cinderella in their chariot and then a couple years later they just realized that they kind of really rushed into this whole thing and then he kind of like leaves her and then finds

Cinderella turned 30 and he's like you have a younger sister and she's like yeah but what's the big deal? And he's like well where is she? And then it's Cooper Cod. That's all I got dark. All right. Garbage Time King.

I already mentioned DeAndre Swift getting a touchdown with like 90 seconds left down 30 points which is just can't believe starting running backs in in that situation. But Craig, garbage time king. C.D. Lamb was very close to being in the, I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed category, but he took off in the second half of the game today against the Patriots. He had 31 yards with four minutes left in the third.

Then he cut the little one yard touchdown. He kind of saved the day a little bit. And then he absolutely took off. He had 160 yards, two touchdown. Looked awesome. Looked like rookie season pre-Dck injury CD when they were just like absolutely going nuts. D.K. and Hyfe, it's a question here. Is this because I could be completely off, but it seems as though

CEDY's not getting, he's not running the routes in the slot, and that's where he's used to, like, get more targets, get more opportunity. I don't know if it's because Gallup got hurt and normally gallops outside and CEDs in the slot more, but it seems like CEDs just always, you know, at the top of the screen, as far away as possible from Daff, and he's just not getting the ball because he's not playing in the slot anymore. That's a good question. I'm not sure exactly what a slot rate is. I'm going to look that up. I don't know.

talk while I looked that up. Okay, cool. I'm curious about that. My, so my understanding is that, so Blake Jarwin tore his ACL last year in like, like, what, week one? And then they kind of were like, hey, C, do you want to just do like the physical things over the middle? And it was like, cool. And he just could as a rookie. And so he got a lot of the slot. This year, I think I, I test, I agree that you're saying, like, he's outside more. I think the real problem is just the Cowboys offense is like, like, Dax's a good quarterback. And that's bad for fantasy sometime because, yeah, we, we say this a lot, but like great quarterbacks process route progressions quickly, which means they're not reliant on the first or second option,

which is why Tom Brady can sometimes like Mike Evans gets no catches and Godwin gets no catches, and sometimes Antonio Brown gets 120 yards, sometimes camera break gets to touchdowns grunk. It's different guys because they're progressing quickly, whereas when DeAndre Hopkins is on the Texans and he just has a procession of shitty quarterbacks, they're going one or two progressions and throwing a Hopkins every time.

Yeah. And I think the Cowboys actually have that problem where DAC has really freaking gone up a level again this year. And they're winning these games. They're so balanced. And they don't have these fourth quarter shootouts like they did at the start of last season. That's the other point is, again, like, DAC had 1,600 yards and 4 games.

The kids, three or maybe four weeks, probably three consecutive weeks of a career high in passing yards because their defense was the worst Cowboys defense in 40 years. So, Craig, to answer your question, prior to this week, actually, no, this is actually this includes this week per pff he's ran 26% of his routes out of the slot um Cedric Cedric Wilson who is the guy in the games you're like why do they keep fucking throwing it to that guy he's running 88% of his routes from the slot um I also think they're running more

too tight end stuff like they're just running the ball they're smash mouth in it and that's like you know that moves cd to the outside type of deal I yeah like well that's actually what how Blake Jarwin caught the touchdown when Schultz got to the one and then Jarwin freaking got the touchdown right and like five feet from Shultz and I was like not that I cared or anything anyway. High Fitz, you mentioned this earlier

like the that's why I drafted this guy game like this was the CD Lamb. That's why I drafted this guy game. Yeah. 100%. We can make that a way. And I'm excited about it. Do you feel that it's like repeatable going forward though

or is this kind of like a one-time thing? Definitely. Well, when you look at their schedule, so they're off next week, which couldn't have come in a more perfect time for Dallas having Dak hurt his calf in the last play of the game. Gallup will probably be back

after the buy. They're playing Minnesota on Sunday night. That'll probably be a shootout. There's like Denver. Atlanta kind of sucks and the Chiefs. I'm hoping that they'll be in these games a little bit more and that it'll be more of a shootout and CD can get more involved. And maybe when Gallup comes back, that'll kick CD inside more. So I think better days are ahead for CD. It's a good point. It's a good point.

Yeah, the two tight-end stuff might have partially to do the fact they lost Gallup. Also, he looks, like, he looks awesome. It doesn't feel like fluky stuff. that he's doing, you know. No, CD's great. TK, do you have a garbage time, King? I was just going to add, by the way, that didn't, that wasn't really garbage time, but I'll all accept it because it kind of came all at the end of the game.

That was more like Craig put in his notes incredibly frustrated at halftime. Fuck C.D. Lamb. And then like came to it later. It was like, oh, that's really embank. That's like when you like wake up, like, hung over and like see like the mess you made when you're drunk and you're like, why did I get like McDonald's at 3 a.m? Like that was Craig. Like how messed up was I that I was mad at CD Lamb like an hour ago?

Yeah. Yeah, that should be a segment like, like, fantasy texts you sent at halftime that you then regret. That's funny. Late night text. Fuck CD Lamb, dude. I'm never drafting him again.

And then after the game, you're like, I love CD. I always love you. So yeah, I was going to add Garbage Time King. And by the way, this is the Blake Bordel's Award for Garbage Time King. Also could be known as the Jalen Hertz Award,

although he has been putting them into games, regardless. Also, it could be the Brandon Cook's award. Brandon Cooks could be just the name of every category. Yes. He pretty much is all categories. The Brandon Cook's Award for Garbage Time King goes to Brandon Cook this week. His team lost 31 to 3. Didn't batter.

11 targets. 8 catches 99 yards. 19 points in PPR. Yeah. They're thrown to somewhere in Houston. Gotta go somewhere. I mean, look, we can keep dunking ourselves about that and we should. Someone does have to catch the ball in Houston.

I think also, by the way, the quarterback situation has been better. It's just been better than we thought it would be. Like, Tyra Taylor looked pretty good before he got hurt. and then Davis Mills, I guess the best thing you can say is he hasn't been a complete disaster, at least not as bad as I thought of your game. You know what?

I was watching the Colts take this 31 to 3 lead. I was thinking the Texans quarterback play is so much better than I thought. Did you watch him play in New England last week, Heifitz? Come on. Give him a break. It's just one game. Okay, moving on to the Brandon Cooks Award for the player you don't want to acknowledge

as good at fantasy. Isfitz? Should I just say Brandon Cooks again? No. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna veer here the guy I this is like a two year running thing I don't really want to admit that J.D. McKissick is good I've never wanted to admit that J.D. McKissick is good yeah do you know what I found out like a couple hours ago JD McKissick as of this moment of time and half PPR scoring jaddy mccasick has the exact

exact same amount of fantasy points as Sakewon Barkley does Ha ha ha ha ha. Yes. Like he is significantly ahead. He's ahead of Miles Sanders. He's head of Giovante Williams. If you remember, like I'm telling that these are guys going, Miles Sanders probably 90 picks out of Jenny McKissick.

Giovanni Williams like 60. I mean, this is astonishing. And now that Gibson's shin is worse. I mean, Jamie McKissick is like a top 25 running back, like locked it every week. I mean, yeah. The Antonio Gibson Rocket. ship never arrived, never took off maybe, is the better way of putting it. We always thought Antonio Gibson was going to be the next Christian McCaffrey or whatever.

Part of that was because Ron Rivera actually said that, like, verbatim. Or he said he's going to be, we're going to use him a little bit like Christian McCaffrey or something like that. Regardless, whether or not that was ever going to be true, it certainly was never going to be true the moment he got this shin injury, the shin stress fracture that will just never heal during the season. Yes. And what I understand with this injury is that, like, it's not something that's just going to get better as if you rest during the week.

Like, it's kind of something he has to deal with in the off season. It needs, like, multiple months of rest to get better and or surgery. And so I think this is going to be a situation that they're going to have to worry about his workload throughout the rest of the season. They may end up even shutting him down. I'm not saying that's going to happen, but it could be something that happens later on in season. Gibson went out multiple times during this game and they came back, but it's still just worrisome. And also, like, just the past catching thing. Like, look, we talked about this before Gibson came into the league after last year.

He was a college receiver. He has the receiving chops. He has the receiving, like, experience. Like, just use him in that game. But I think what we all kind of overlooked was J.D. McKissick was also a college receiver who has a receiving chops and has experience and is good. And he's just a different style of player. this reminds me a lot actually of

and I'm not saying that J.D. McIssick is good at Pollard but it does remind me a little bit of the Ezekiel Elliott Tony Pollard conversation where everyone is like and it's sort of opposite because everyone's like oh Pollard's better than Zeke. Yeah, this is the exact opposite of the conversation. They're different. They're different types of players, right? That's my point.

Both good, just different. Yeah, like they're like J.D. McIssick is pretty good. Like with what he does in their offense, he's good at passing. in the passing game, he can make guys miss in the open field. He's got a little more, I think, elusiveness in the short area. Gibson is very explosive, but they're just different styles of players.

So that's kind of my point. And I think he's not going anywhere. Yeah, they pair really well together. It's like that episode of Bob's Burgers where he's holding a glass of white and red wine, and he goes, wow, the white really pairs well with the red. He's like drinking both. That's Pollard and Zeke and that's McKissick and Gibson.

Yeah. So anyways, I agree hyphids. He's not going anywhere. And this is a guy that you could have had on like literally all your teams because he was going very late, I think. Yeah. Every year there's that guy. Theo Riddick was that guy for a while.

They always pop up, James White's. Craig, you had the Ravens running backs, right? Yep, did that. All right. Let's get the weird flex, but okay. I mean, other than the Ravens running backs, all scoring touchdowns. So you guys have a weird flex, but okay, Craig? Yeah, Kenyon Drake, D.

D.K. kind of mentioned him earlier, but he had two touchdowns. You know, he had only like 70 yards, two touchdowns. sounds, but he had six touches. I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it with Kenyon Drake. He was one of those people that we all kind of thought would be an interesting late-round draft pick because the Raiders spent a lot of money on him and they never want to commit to Josh Jacobs. But

they like Peyton Barber more than they like Kenyon Drake, it seems like when Peyton Barber's healthy. So I'm staying away. This is just a weird flex. It's not a real flex. Don't worry. Do you guys ever have players in fantasy that you just have a blind spot for? And at no point do you ever like consider them actually

in a draft? Like there's, undernose circumstances would I draft this person? Yeah. For me, that was Kenyon Drake during the off season. I don't know why,

but I was always just like, no, I would never, no, I would never draft him. I don't know why. I don't even really know enough about him

to like poo-poo this decision. I just never wanted to draft him and I'm actually very thankful for that. So my point is I kind of agree with you. He had, he played 12 snaps last week. You said he had six touches this week. That kind of utilization is just not going to carry over.

What's funny is he's good. Two touchdowns. Yeah. I think he's good. kind of good. It's weird. But I think Josh Jacobs is good too. Josh Jacobs had 16 10 rush attempts, 153 yards and a such time. There's such a funny point, Deky, just

made of like, now I'm just trying to think there are guys that are virtually invisible to you. Like, they might as well not exist. And sometimes they're like good. And honestly, it's kind of how I feel about Derek Henry every year. I'm just like, I know I'm not going to draft Derek Henry. You know what I mean? It's just a weird thing. Yeah. I think for me

it was literally, Adam Phelan. Kelsey was like that to me for a couple years in the second round. I was just like, I'm not doing that and then every year it maybe looks stupid it was kenyon drake and james conner for me this year where i knew that they existed and i knew that they were ranked somewhere on my ranks but under no circumstances did i ever even think about drafting i'm like yeah didn't we do an episode didn't we do an episode called the players you have to rank but would never draft yes that's exactly that's it so a cousin of this you know how like everyone has something

i'm going to use some people of many but everyone has at least one thing that like you are crazy about and wrong, but, like, you think you're right. Yeah. Do you know what that is for you? Like, I know what mine is. Do you guys know what your thing is that you're crazy? The flavor of banana. You know, like...

I love the flavor of banana. I love banana cream pie. I like banana ice cream. And everybody's like, you're wrong. Oh, see, you're saying... You took it as crazy about. I meant crazy. So, like, my thing is like, I don't...

Oh. I can't handle plastic in the microwave. I think it's horrible for you. I understand that there is type that you. took BPA out and there are types of plastic that are safe. I don't think any of the plastic safe microwavable stuff is actually safe in the microwave. I know I'm probably wrong, but like I think I'm right.

You're just pretty sane though. I mean, you not wanting to put plastic in the microwave is not that crazy. I won't microwave. Even the Trader Joe's like microwavable meals, I will not microwave in the thing. Okay. I get that. And like there are players like that. Like I won't, I don't care if people say they're fine.

Like I will never believe you. yeah definitely definitely yeah that was kind of me with Daryl Henderson honestly in the draft I was like nah I'm just not doing it I'm just not gonna do it well they want me to do that Miles Sanders is one of those all right well so was Mike Williams so tough for me

okay let's go quick propet update we went well we I was at a wedding on Thursday so you guys did it with Ben Solac thank God we had fucking Ben Solac I'm still just continuing to drag this team down Benzola just picked both the up by your haunches, just carried you over the hill here to 500.

So you guys... I did just fine here. I did well. I went two for three. You went two for three. D.K. was in the caboose here with, uh, what did he do? Oh, oh, I thought you went one for three. DK went oh for three.

Guys, I'm hemorrhaging money. Hemorrhaging $5 bets. Uh, but I feel, I feel pretty good about how close I was on a few of these, right? Yeah, we got to feel good about that. which when you factor in the juice or the pulp is basically 500 at best. Yeah, yeah. Sure.

So, you know what? Awesome. Great work. Also, Ben, shouts out, Ben. Ben, he hit his special prop. He hit his Packers, Bears, same game parli. Oh, yes, he did. What was it?

Under 44. Justin Fields overrushing and the Devante Adams under. The Devonty Adams over and it was 98 yards. Yeah. that's at least at the high can i just say my texans colts parley i was 10 yards away from hitting the same game parley just saying all right um i i have to say you know what was really cathartic i listened to that episode you guys did without me when so lack just like kind of like he's so polite and like dk was like yeah i got mark andrews first touch on score and solek just like burst out laughing was

like those are the worst bets you could possibly make vibes vibes bet it was it was the vibes bet didn't pay off for that. He did score a touchdown. Just wasn't for it. All right. Let's get. All right. Last thing here.

Burn book. Yeah. Yeah. I think we're all on the same. I think we're all on the same page here. There's one person that it needs to need. Like, you know,

this is the end. He's got to go. So I am just, I'm done. I'm out. It's over. Miles Gaskin. You're going.

in the burn book, it's over. Like, I can't handle it anymore. I can't handle it anymore. 31 points last week. Yeah. And then for whatever reason, multiple reasons, he just went back to being like a lightly used, like change of pace type guy. I saw this from Joey McFarland from PFF.

He played on 36% of snaps, 28% of the rush attempts. And then he was just sprinkled in here and there and other stuff. Like, what are the, number one, what are the dolphins doing in the backfield? I never, I'm never going to be able to figure it out pregame. I guess maybe you could have guessed in retrospect that they were going to pass a Gaskin a lot against the Buccaneers because no one tries to run against the Buccaneers. But I'm done trying to figure out. I'm done trying to read the tea leaves with Gaskin. He's going in the burn book.

Save me for myself. I'm never going to start him again for any of my leagues. I want to get tattooed on the inside of my eyelids that the dolphins have the worst offensive line in the NFL. And that any time the rest of the season, anyone asks me to start sequestered about Miami running backs. they have the worst offensive line in the NFL. We should do like our own version of the movie Memento where you wake up every morning. Tatis in our body of certain things you have to remember.

And it's Memento, but every day he just has to set a fantasy lineup and he looks at his forearm and it says, don't trust what St. Miles Gaskin. And he's like, he's like, oh, he's like, Miami's playing Jacksonville. And he looks at his arm and he's like, don't ever start Miles Gaskin's like, okay.

You're like, hmm, I wonder why that's there. He had five rushes for nine yards. God I Like Miles Gaskin He's like Calamberter's purple fork to me He's just you know

No it's over I'm gascon I want to edit all of our burn book People onto a guy Pierce's body And Memento And the tattoos Do you want to go Do you want to recap

Who we got so far? Yeah the burn book recap We did week one Raheemoster Because he got hurt Which was pretty bitter on our part It was pretty hardcore

However Did we We didn't know that he was out for the year. We did that to be fair. Yeah. Yes, well, we, that wouldn't have changed our minds. What was upsetting was for him. It was the entire offseason. We're like, you know what? He's so good, but he might get hurt, like, immediately. And then he got hurt on the second carry of the season. And we felt like assholes. So we burned him out of anger, which you shouldn't do to some

us here. Mark is Callow in week two. We just burned Kyle Shanahan in week three, because it just seemed a lot more concise than explaining all the players we'd have to burn. Turns out he just hates Trey Sermon. Also Brandon Ayuk. I naeuk. Week four, I just reached the acceptance stage of grief with Mike Davis. And I just was like, you know what? Take me.

Week five is Alan Robinson. And week six, here we are with Miles Gaskin. Seems like I'm pretty solid. It's a good list. We'll get those old tattooed on Guy Pearce's body. If somebody showed you this list before the season started, I think I would understand every single one of them except Alan Robinson. Well, if I showed you this list.

before the season. Would you think it was the burn book? Or would you think this is like winners of the week? Oh, like, would you think that this is like the lineup you'd want after week one or after week six? So like this is like the team.

If you drafted these guys. Rahim Moster, Mike Davis, Miles Gaskin, A Rob, Callow, Shanahan. You're like, wow. So the Niners, just give me all the Niners. And like Mike Davis hit. Danny was super right about Mike Davis.

Arob, Bears, must be leading the league of receiving. Miles Gaskin, zero. So it goes zero. R. B, hit the nine. Yeah, this is, like, actually the memento thing where, like, you have memory loss and you're, like, trying to decipher what this means. I have these names written on my body. What does this mean?

Somebody comes back from the future and hands you this piece of paper, and you don't know why, and you're like, God, do I draft them or do I not? Is Kyle Shedahan Sammy Jankis? Sammy. Was it giving me the shots or not? Oh, my God. Oh, that's good. All right. All right, let's get out of here.

We're going to go through waivers this week. really important week for waivers. There are six teams on buy and five of them are really good. The other one is the Jaguars. So there's a lot of teams. That plus injuries. It's like probably the hardest start sit week of the whole season thus far. So we'll do that on that'll go up on Monday night, Tuesday. Yeah, Monday night. Cool. Thank you everyone for listening. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Mike for producing this episode. Thank you, Lorne. Lord. Thank you, Fanta Graham. All right. I stumped you, Craig. Am I supposed to know what that is? I was going to pretend. and then there's like,

Craig just goes, I don't know what that is. Nothing. I was going to sit here and be quiet and then Craig made a face and I was like, okay, I don't have to know who the fantagram

is because I had no idea what that is. I don't know that is either. I think that was like the part where you explain what Fantagram. No. But you're not going to,

you're not even going to say anything. Oh, did you want me to, I don't know the background and history of the band very well. So you can look at out. No.

I'm just going to Google. There are a music duo from Greenwich, New York. There we go. I've got Phantagram as a video game development studio based in South Korea. It's known for its Game in series, Kingdom Under Fire. I don't think that's what I was talking about. Their associated acts are the flaming lips, Miley Cyrus, and Big Boy.

Wikipedia doesn't even do like the for the disambiguous, for the ambiguity. It just goes, for the optical illusion, see Phantagram with an O. If you play the song when I'm small, you'll recognize it, guaranteed. Okay. I was going to say play it, and I realized that's how you get sued. I'll give that a shot. Don't do it. We can't do that.

On the pot. All right. Thanks. Say see you. Monday. Wait, no, no, wait. I want to read real quick what a fanagram is. A fanogram...

No, no. A fanogram known as fanaglyphs is levitated images or form of optical illusion. Oh, this is really boring. It's what Russell Wilson was doing out in the field. Hyphins, this is worse than the jokes I start, and I can't remember the fucking punchline.

Mitch Heidberg jokes? See you guys on Monday. Jesus.