The Ringer NFL Show - Season-on-the-Line Week 14 Waivers

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

SHOWDOWN TIME! The guys discuss must-add players at each position ahead of NFL Week 14.(00:00) Intro(3:00) RB waivers: Chris Rodriguez Jr., Blake Corum, Bam Knight(12:46) WR waivers: Jayden Higgins, A...D Mitchell, Devaughn Vele(24:08) TE waivers: Brenton Strange, Darren Waller, AJ Barner(41:24) QB waivers(44:41) D/ST waivers(47:53) EmailsCheck out our 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here!Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.comThis episode is sponsored by Chime. Bank Smarter, Progress Further.The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available.Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig HorlbeckProducers: Isaiah Blakely, Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Kirk Roebuck. And today we were going over all the must add players after week 13, entry week 14 of the NFL season, a K the last week of the fantasy football regular season. So we're going to help you add a bunch of players because you're either need to win this week to make the playoffs. Hopefully already clinched the playoffs were already eliminated from the
Starting point is 00:00:39 playoffs in which case we're super sorry and we will we kind of just owe you in general so we're sorry about that we are recording this in the Monday night the beginning of this Monday of football game Jackson Dart already has just been absolutely rocked uh and launched into the sideline and guess they got a fire Kafka now yeah DK did you think this is why they charge so much for like 21 year olds to get car insurance is because they drive like Jackson Dart runs right a hundred percent 100 percent uh you just think you're going to live for forever when you're that age. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:01:11 He needs to learn how to protect himself. He clearly does not know how. Quiet, Trayvon and Henderson, his one play per quarter is happening right now. I don't see if he gets the ball. Oh, he didn't. Cool. Cool, cool, cool. Remandering on all those carries, though.
Starting point is 00:01:24 We're going to go through all these players who can go through trivia and all that and more. But first, we're going to take a quick break. This episode is presented by Chime. Bank Smarter this season, fantasy football is all about strategy. Well, here's a winning strategy for your money. trade banking fees for fee-free banking, 1.5% cashback, getting paid when you say in a higher APY in your savings. That's a lineup that wins.
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Starting point is 00:02:10 with a qualifying direct deposit earn 1.5% cash back on eligible secured chime Visa credit card purchases. APY means annual percentage yields learn more at chime.com. All right. Let's get to waivers here.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Here's that where it's running out position by position. We're just going to give our topic at that position that we would have waivers and if we have the same guy, we'll do trivia tiebreakers so that we can figure out that guy and who goes where.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Not that complicated. You'll figure it out as well. we go, email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com for trivia questions. Make sure it's a number so we can do closer to the pin, although a couple of people to create a questions recently that I'm thinking about. Byes this week, Giants, Patriots, Niners, and Panthers. So that is just, you know, the two teams on this Monday of football, the two teams from last week Monday to football, McCaffrey, Kittle, Joanne Jennings, Purdy, Dart, everyone. So without further to D.K.,
Starting point is 00:03:00 yo. Number one player you would add off of waivers at running back for week 14 if your season was on the line. Oh, God. Well, that sounds terrible for this particular player, but I'm going with Chris Rodriguez for the commanders who is. No, no way. He is their starter. He is a starting running back that is still available on the majority of waivers right now. This last game, he had 11 carries for 41 yards in a touchdown. He runs really hard. He's basically just go forward and hit people very hard and hopefully get into the end zone. So I think I would still go with Chris Rodriguez. The options aren't great this week, and you can also add a couple of high upside handcuffed type running backs. But if I had to plug someone into my lineup, it would be
Starting point is 00:03:42 Chris Rodriguez. Yeah, I kid. I would think about other guy. I don't think Chris Rodriguez is that good. And more importantly, they're playing Minnesota, who is tricky defensively, although Chris Rodriguez, I guess against Denver was not terrible. I would probably end up going with Chris Rodriguez, too. I was thinking about like late quorum against the Cardinals, but the kind of amount of touches he gets is not super predictable. Kyron Williams did leave the game briefly with an ankle injury and then Blake Corum scored, but then Kyron Williams came back and played the rest of the game. So if you're going to go for guys who you know will probably touch the ball 10 plus times,
Starting point is 00:04:16 I guess it's probably Chris Rodriguez. Do you agree with that IFitz? And I think Blake Quorum is so much better. They're on a good offense. They're playing the Cardinals. They can kill them. Blake Quorum could get touches. Maybe I'm talking about stuff into Blake Corum.
Starting point is 00:04:29 You could argue that Blake Corum should be rostered more. urgently than Chris Rodriguez, but if you're trying to plug someone into your lineup, that's where this kind of gets tricky. Is the upside really that different? I guess it is. I guess Rodriguez. If you look at- If Karen gets hurt, Corum is going to go off. I think it is Rodriguez. I think it is a close, it's close, but it's Robert Rubez. If you need to win this week, Chris Rodriguez has more upside because there's a chance that Chris Rodriguez gets double or maybe three times the touches that Blake Corum does. That's possible. So if my entire season came down,
Starting point is 00:05:06 would have probably play Chris Rodriguez. However, the fact that Karen Williams is an ankle entry, part of me does want to just add Blake Corum because the Rams are just such a good offense, even in the Carolina game, the defense kind of blew it, Stafford, turned it over. But I mean, the Rams were just carving up the Panthers offense. So I still kind of want to just pick Blake Corum, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:05:25 But I will say they both are pretty solid for the playoffs. Corum just because Karen Williams has banged up. Washington has a pretty decent schedule for the fantasy play. House. Washington plays after this Vikings with the great run De, they play the Giants, the Eagles, and Dallas. And I know Dallas is better Rundee now with Quinn and Williams. But Chris Rodriguez, both these guys should be rostered and can be weird players who help your team in the playoffs. But I think these are the two clear guys. I agree. I'm nervous for whoever gets last in this trivia because there's no good options after these two. So are we picking corner on then, Rodriguez? I guess I think we do Rodriguez, right? Yeah, I think it's do it.
Starting point is 00:06:02 All right. And just for an update on everybody on the trivia. High Fitz is in first with 14. I'm in second with 11. Danny Kelly in coming up the rear with nine. Brutal. Still in contention. Brutal for your boy. Yeah. It's all right. You're going to bounce back right now with the, who are we doing? The Chris Rodriguez, showdown time. Wait, we forgot to do the other way, remember?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Oh, yeah. Do it one more time. And then Isaiah can play this. Isaiah. We changed the gong before showdown time. It plays better. We just changed this. It is the Chris Rodriguez showdown time. That does hit better. That is better than what way. It is there. Forget who emailed us that idea, but thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:48 That's pretty great. Okay. This is from, this trivia question is from Nick. Nicky. Nick Bone. Nick writes, Nick Wrights, Nick writes, I'm a teacher. My question is, how many times did I hear six, seven today? Does he say what grade he's a teacher?
Starting point is 00:07:06 He has a lot of context. He says, I teach fourth grade. My students are all nine or ten years old. I have 24 students in class today. All 24 students are in my classroom for five hours. It's an elementary school. So 24 students. Five hours. Four students. Five hours. Four students. Five hours total. And he says it kept a tally of every time the student said six, seven, either out loud, like to the classroom or privately to each other. Funny if the answer was six or seven. Um, 60s. Um, okay. 24 kids, five hours. Fudge. Okay. All right. Three, two, one.
Starting point is 00:07:45 23. You said 23. I said 41. Uh, my answer, I wrote down was 48. Ooh. Although in retrospect, I wish I'd said 67. That's actually mad. I didn't think of that.
Starting point is 00:07:57 You can't believe one of you did. You really blew that. The real answer is 72. Good God. Get out of here. What is happening to the generation? below us. Yep.
Starting point is 00:08:10 All right. It's trying times, Craig. Wait, so who said the higher number? I, I won't. I haven't said 48. I said 41. Crafis is running away with the shit. Wow, 72 times.
Starting point is 00:08:21 They said 6, 7? That's a lot. That's, you know, three per kid. I mean, the poor Nick couldn't do any teaching. He was too busy tallying the time, the amount of time to say 6.7. 72 tallies is a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Kids are supposed to be in school for six hours. a whole hour just doing the tally. All right, so I'll take Chris Rodriguez and the, again, the other thing we didn't mention is Jaden Daniels is more likely, he actually might come back and play this week for Washington. So I don't know if they should
Starting point is 00:08:50 do that, especially watching Jackson Dark, kind of get destroyed by the Patriots here. I don't know if you should come back from Minnesota, but he might. So, Jaden Daniels coming back would also help Washington run game. But honest, so Craig, you get second. Or who? No, I can say it. D.K. So you get played quorum. I'll take quorum. Part of me is like play quorum if he's available.
Starting point is 00:09:05 is awesome. You have to be rostered. Yeah. He's probably better picked than Rodriguez. If you specifically need to make the, but if you already clinched the playoffs, do we all agree rather of Corum? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Because if Carmen Williams misses time, Corum is an auto winner. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And then Craig, so who do you pick now with Corum and Rodriguez gone? I mean, Bam Knight is kind of tricky because we don't know what's going on with Amari Di Mercado or Trey Benson in Arizona.
Starting point is 00:09:32 If either of those guys don't come back, I think Bam Knight is a serviceable play. He had 100 yards in a touchdown last week. I kind of just think Trey Benson and the assumption that he's going to come off I are, like until we see it, I think Bam Knights are totally, he's also kind of starting running back. Mario DeMercado is hurt.
Starting point is 00:09:50 They are playing the Rams, though, unfortunately. I know, but he's a start. He's all, but he's also starting running back. And if Trey Benson gets activated, it's different. Totally agree. I think I would pick, I would pick Bam Knight the next.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Yeah. Yeah. Bam Knight. The other options are grim. It's like you have Michael Carter also on Arizona. You have Keaton Mitchell, who's like, Justice Hill on the Ravens on IR. Definitely, Devin Neal for the Saints is the other one where if you're like solely for week 14 and you want to just. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Yeah. He's like almost 60% roster in Yahoo. But if you can get Devin Neal, I think he's serviceable for they're playing Tampa Bay for one game. He had 17 touches this week. Yeah, I feel like it's after Bam Knight, Michael Carter, it's all the usual suspects. Keaton Mitchell, Brian Robinson, Tyler Algier, Baychel Tutton. the backups. At that point, let's just look at the stash guys that you think could go to work this week. So because I think the stash is that if you've made the playoffs already and you want to just get a running back that if someone hurt, it gets hurt, you get every day. Like a few years ago, like Austin, Ector got COVID and then Justin Jackson came in at like 30 points or whatever. It's like stuff like that. Like that. Like, Corms number one.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Wow. I know. These are the people that decide your title sometimes. And every now and then, Jared McGinnon, people like that. I think the people. I mean, Kamani Vidal is like making people the playoffs. Yeah. Kamani Vidal, absolutely. that so keaton mitchell as craig just said justice ill is her and dary kenry if anything happens that derrick henry keat mitchell's a starter uh brian robinson junior for the niners and i actually think the guy we haven't talked about ray davis for the bills and if you're in a deep you actually need to pick up a guy and play him this week and all the people we've been talking about a roster i would pick up ray davis for the bills for two reasons if james cook gets hurt ray davis i think is almost like a blake quorum like crazy valuable starter but the difference is the bills this week are playing the bangles. The Buffalo Bills were designed to beat the Bangle's defense and run down
Starting point is 00:11:39 their throat. And the bills ran for how many yards this week on the Steelers, Craig? 248. I kind of think there's an outside chance the bills run for more yards against the Bengals. I actually think Ray Davis, of all these guys, by far as the best shot at a 50-yard touchdown is Ray Davis. So I think Ray Davis of like, you talk about like an absolute dart throwout running back, like you're absolutely desperate in a deep league, but also if there's an injury, he's a top 10 running back. I would go with Ray Davis just for the upside. Yeah. I'm into that. Hey, everyone, just wanted to pop in. After we finished recording, Tyrone Tracy was carded off with a hip injury in the Giants game. So if Tyrone Tracy is out for an extended
Starting point is 00:12:19 period of time, we would add Devin Singletary to the list of running backs that would be good for the fantasy playoffs. The Giants are on buy in week 14, so we won't help you for week 14. But afterward, if the diagnosis turns out to be like a multi-week injury for Tyrone Tracy, we would definitely, definitely advise adding Devin Siglary because he would be like the starting running back for the Giants. So we would add him to that list of guys that would be really valuable for every week Tyrone Tracy's out. So wanted to add that. We will now get to receivers. Cool. Okay. Receivers. TK. Number one receiver you dad just for week 14. Just for one week. Like if you need to win this week and then we'll get to stashes. Uh, okay, I think I'm going to go with Jaden
Starting point is 00:12:59 Higgins from the Texans. He's really been coming on strongly for them. Um, There are other options here that I'm sure we'll get to that are, I think, riskier, but maybe have higher upside. Adi Mitchell for the Jets. Don Tavian Wicks, Isaac Tislaah for the Lions. But I mean, Jaden Higgins is what he's done over the last four weeks, five targets, nine targets, seven targets, seven targets. He was still pretty involved with C.J. Stroud coming back.
Starting point is 00:13:25 They're playing the chiefs this week. He's been playing like 60 plus percent of snaps last month, 19 percent target rate over the last four, more games. These are not like elite numbers, but serviceable like flex slash wide receiver two type numbers. I don't feel great about this, but I think he's who I would go with. I tentatively agree. I really thought about 80 Mitchell and then I said to myself, he's all over the place, man. If I am going to spend my Sunday, the last Sunday of the regular season, hoping that Tyrod Taylor and the Jets can complete big passes, I don't want to, if I go down, not betting on the Jets, I'm okay with that.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Right. That is super fair and probably really smart. And also I'm going to take 80 Mitchell. Yeah. Because the vault, you kind of, 12 targets, eight catches, 100 yards and a touchdown, the best game any Jets receiver had all year. I kind of just think they're going to scheme him the ball.
Starting point is 00:14:17 And he might drop it. Like, that's the worst part. He actually might get a 70 yard touchdown just laid in his hands. And he might just drop it. And the catch before the one yard line, I don't know. But I think 80 Mitchell is just the most likely these guys to pop off, which is kind of what you need. I agree,
Starting point is 00:14:31 Jaden Higgins. If I am more confident, I would bet my life that if one of these guys was going to get four fantasy points, I would take Jaden Higgins over 80 Mitchell. But I'm going to take 80 Mitchell because you play to win. He has a 30% target rate over the last three weeks. But if you look at everything passed last week
Starting point is 00:14:49 where he had eight catches, 102 yards on a touchdown, he had two catches on seven targets last week, or sorry, the week before. And then in his first game with the Jets, he had one catch on six targets. So. Well, even that he kept dropping it. It's an adventure out there.
Starting point is 00:15:02 But the point is he dropped four of those six passes versus New England on Thursday football and they haven't stopped throwing to him. So they've made a decision when they traded Freddie Mitchell. They're going to try to see if he's because he was a second round pick. He's, I mean, he gets open. His average. Shout out Scott Barretted fantasy points. Average separation score. The ass. Huge ass. I mean, he can he can route people up. He's a good route runner. So I just everything else that's a little bit sketch. And like, I don't know. I feel like we've been saying Mason Taylor that hasn't popped. I just like don't. I just don't. I just don't want to bet on it yet. That's fair. Probably smart. What do you think of, uh, well, first let's do the showdown,
Starting point is 00:15:35 and then we can talk. And we're going to do Jaden Higgins. Just for D.K. and I, but Hydenhitz can play the trivia for fun. Okay. All right. It is the Jaden Higgins showdown time. Yeah, that's better for that place. Hyphitz, the Giants scored. Good for you. Did you see that? Hey, Fitzhens. I love that guy. It's good for us, Craig. It's good for this family. good for this family. Darius Slayton. Should we add him to this waiver conversation? Sure.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Do you want one? I have one here about the movie Ted and what about from a urologist. Ted. Oh, boy. Sure. I did not watch the movie Ted, but that's fine. Oh. You've never seen the movie Ted? No. He has no shot. Well, well, no, that's always how it goes.
Starting point is 00:16:25 That means he actually is the best shot. Okay. So how many times does Ted say fuck? I'm being transparent in advance. I kind of nailed this one. I hate that. I hate when you say that. Okay, Ted. This is from Nick. Another Nick.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Hi, Nick. Oh, yeah. Nicky. And Bone. The scene in, in Ted, when he says all the white trash names, is I dating girl, white trash name, guess. Tammy Lynn, Tammy Joe, Tamu. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Yeah. How many names does Mark Wahlberg say? Dick has no idea what's going on. I mean, this is, this is bullshit, but also... Have you ever even seen a clip of this scene, D.K.? No. No. This is about how much context I have with every other fucking question on these, though.
Starting point is 00:17:10 It's fine. okay all right three two one forty no fucking wait Craig I said 40 I'll let you go higher low
Starting point is 00:17:22 what did you say I said 31 wow you said 42 damn go higher low you guys both said 40 I thought yeah well yeah but I'm letting Craig pick higher or lower um
Starting point is 00:17:40 41 the answer is 45 who I needed that well done Craig you did need that team not high fits all right that means I get jade and
Starting point is 00:17:57 Higgins yeah hyphids then you can have your ad Mitchell and now D.K. Well I was going to take Mandy Madison Brittany Tiffany, Candice Brandis Brandy Heather Channing Briette no I'm not going to say about Wait can you wait can you just read
Starting point is 00:18:08 when he does the hyphenate names that's my favorite Heather Lynn Tammy Lynn fuck I guess I need to watch Ted yeah you need to watch Ted's pretty oh Ted's funny I maintain that that was the most
Starting point is 00:18:21 Rockest theater experience I've ever had. Ted is people lost their shit in Ted. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Oh, wow. Okay. That is a hangover. Man, there's some interesting options here. I'm going to,
Starting point is 00:18:33 I'm going to pick Crimeini. Let's see here. I'm going to pick Devon Velae for the Saints. Seasons on the line, baby.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Hell yeah. You're not taking Dantavian Wicks? Dude, uh, Jaden, what's his name? Jaden Reed
Starting point is 00:18:49 might be coming back. Did you see Matt Lafleur when Don Tavenwick's caught that ball at the end? Matt LaFleur like the fucking screaming in his ear. It's like every fucking game is just different. I think Don't Tavian Wix might be the smarter answer, yes. But like every freaking game for the Packers, it's like someone random guy gets featured. I guess. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:09 They do. All right. But like I'm betting on Jordan Love and Matt LaFleur versus Tyler Shuck throwing to Devon Velae. Hell yes. That's what I want. I like to live dangerously, Craig. I also like to live dangerously. Look, here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:19:26 The rational plays, Dantavian Wicks. The Galaxy Brain plays, Devon Bailey, who had eight catches for 93 yards in a touchdown. Since last week, he had 87% of the route, 24% targets. Last three games, he's basically emerged as the number two receiver once Shaheed has gone. He's played 86% of the snaps or more in each of those games. So, you know, the Saints traded two. picks for him for some reason. And now he's a big part of their offense.
Starting point is 00:19:54 We know the reason. Yeah, because he's really fucking good. Hold on, guys. Ramandre Stevenson is running the wildcat. Because we needed that. Yeah. The other ones that I really consider here, Isaac to Sla, we don't know what's going all with Amaran R Saint-Brown. If he doesn't play, I would definitely take to Slah.
Starting point is 00:20:12 But I have a feeling Amman Rae St. Brown is just going to come back. I feel like Amman Rae might not play for one game. but Khalif Raymond might Kaleef Raymond might replace it but he is an ankle but he also is injured so there's just a lot of questions
Starting point is 00:20:26 yeah I don't want to bet on Tislaw but also he's just such a playmaker that if it's just James and Williams it's a slop or I just think they're going to make something happen Tesla this season has six catches and three of them are touchdowns and that's the thing it's like
Starting point is 00:20:38 it's one of them like what happens if he actually has to play a whole game so but also I don't want to bet on that but Brock Sam Laporte is her Brock Wrights her it's like they're down two receivers they're on two tight ends like at some point I don't know he might have to play
Starting point is 00:20:48 play all game, but it's hard to put your season on the line with the guy with six catches in the entire year. So yeah, Dantaven Wicks, I think also Pat Ryan for the Bronwyn. I think stashes, guys, that could be good down the line. I think it's all the rookies we're talking about Jane Higgins. Don Tavent Wix, Dantam Wix is not a, um, a rookie, but Pap Ryan for the Broncos is starting to look. Yeah, what's funny, D.K., your guy, Sean Payton. I, I talked on, what day was it? About Troy Franklin overtaking Cortland Sutton as like the new red zone guy. Well, Monday night, Troy Franklin, hardly involved. And now Pat Bryant, their rookie, they took in the third round, right?
Starting point is 00:21:25 Yeah. Had more targets than Troy Franklin. It has played more offensive snaps in both two and three wide receiver sets on Sunday night than Troy Franklin. You want to know why? Do you want to know why, Craig? I don't think I do. I don't. I don't want to guess.
Starting point is 00:21:43 John Peyton fucking hates you. That's like. He wants you to be unhappy. He doesn't want you to win in anything. What do they? I mean, they keep winning, which it's fine, whatever. I don't care. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Yeah, nine wins in a row gives a shit about that. The, the, uh, I think those are guys for this week. If you want to just stash a receiver for the playoffs, I think there's a few. Jaden Reed, the receiver for the Packers.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I don't know when they're going to activate him off injured reserve. I think it's soon. He had two surgeries. Like, so he had a footage, you like a Jones fraction of his foot in August and he was going to play through it. And then he broke his collarbone in week two. And he had to get
Starting point is 00:22:19 surgery and his collarbone. He was like, fuck, I don't get surgery on the foot too. So he's just coming back from the collarbone and foot surgery. So I don't know if I want to play a guy who has two injuries in his first game back with in the playoffs. But if Jane Reed comes back, he's a man among boys. I've always loved the way he plays. And I think he is just one of those guys that always just has a nose for the end zone. They always get scheme touches. He's like a Debo-ish for the Green Bay. Like he doesn't get it like the metrics don't love his usage or whatever. I don't give a shit. He scores a ton of touchdowns. And Matt Lafleur really wants Jade and read back. So he's a guy that if he comes back and looks good in his first time,
Starting point is 00:22:52 I'd actually trust putting him on my lineup later relatively to your other waiver options. The other one, Mike Evans might get activated off injured reserve. That's another guy just throwing an iron spot. If he got one, just add Mike Evans if he got cut because it seemed like he might be out for the year. And then Jalen Coker for the Panthers, who's on by this week. But I think it's just a really good player. The Cokeheads. Yeah. And so just add Jalen Coker, if you need a receiver. I think he's just better. Luther Burden. I'll keep shouting out Losing Burden. Yeah. I don't know when I would play Luther Burden, but I agree that he's fun to watch him.
Starting point is 00:23:23 It feels good to have him on your bench, though, doesn't it? It feels like you're planning for the future. It's like a fucking, you know, you just bought some stocks or something. Yeah, it's just nice to have him sit there. He looks good on the bench, you know? It's prudent to have him. Is that what people say? I just bought some stocks.
Starting point is 00:23:40 How would people say that to another person? I just got back from the stock store. I just went to the stock market. Yeah. And I picked up. some stocks. I just went to the stock market. We need to know those trivia questions.
Starting point is 00:23:56 That's so funny. Guys, I can't wait to tell you who I'm picking out of tight. It feels like a Nathan for you or something. Just the stock market. Okay, so we're at tight end. DQ is your number one tight end off waiver. Guys. Entering week 14.
Starting point is 00:24:14 This weekend I'm going out and getting some strange. I'm going for it Craig is So you know what's funny What's so funny? What's the joke? Getting some strange ass Is that what it is?
Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah I continue Strange. It's strange ass Strange ass? Strange refers to ass Or in general just women? Well,
Starting point is 00:24:37 both I think. I still have never heard anyone use this other than you in the context of adding Brent and strange off flavors. Go out there and get some strange, you know? I'm gonna go to Google it.
Starting point is 00:24:49 It's a line from wedding crashes. Go out there and get some strange ass. It just means that sex with a new person. You're of a different generation. It's fine. I don't actually know if I've ever actually, I've never actually said that to anyone in real life other than you guys,
Starting point is 00:25:05 but it does bother Craig quite a bit. I feel like that photo of you that we posted on Instagram, that guy said, let's get some strange. Let's go out and get some strange, yeah. Yeah, it's Nordic Fjords. Okay. I said that. I'm classy.
Starting point is 00:25:16 So you're taking, Craig, are you taking Strange? 100%. I hate saying this. Fuck. Craig, did you Google the expression? Yeah, it says that you're having sex with a new person. No, no Darren Waller for you guys?
Starting point is 00:25:30 No. I don't really like... Over Brent and Strange? Brent Strange is like a big part of the offense. Yeah, he's like their leading receiver now. Plus Parker Washington's probably out for who... Yeah, I guess... Yeah, you're right. Parker Washington heard.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Brent Strange is the answer. Fine. Thank you. All right. That means it's time to go out and look for some strange. Go to the stop. Go to the park. Can I change my mind?
Starting point is 00:26:00 Is it too late? And look for some strange. I just, that just sounds so seedy. Yeah. I know. That's the point. That's who you were in the past life.
Starting point is 00:26:14 I know it. I know it to be true. Okay. Okay. you were a little rascal rascal what were you getting up to what were you doing
Starting point is 00:26:26 the late 90s why 2K you guys said the world was ending you guys were doing we were living we're carpe and the DM you know yeah is that what they're calling should I admit something really does the carpe match the DM
Starting point is 00:26:38 oh that's pretty good you're like fuck I wish I had that all right let's do it happen there what's going on you watch in the Giants game? I said that this is going to be one of those 90% of people listening make fun of me and 10% are like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I was like making fun of DK having the ear ring and I was like, it says ear ring. And I was like, oh my God, that's why they call it that. Earrings. You didn't know what it was. I never thought about it. Yeah, I don't know if I ever really thought about it either. It's got, man. Ear ring.
Starting point is 00:27:15 It's a ring. Like that is two words. They just put into one word. Ear ring. Did you know that nose ring is also a ring that you put into your nose? But that's not a word for a thing. Like, I'm going to get jacky earrings. I just never thought about it.
Starting point is 00:27:30 But yeah, just your wings. You don't say nose earring. Why is a necklace not called a neck ring? Why is it called a necklace? It's a threat like you had a lace. Oh my God. They were made a necklace. Christ.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Necklace? Yeah, they made a lace. What is lace? You don't know what lace is? Lace is not a... Is it lace like a, like a style of garment, not an actual texture? I think it's a textile. It's a texture.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Lace is a... Wow, a neck lace. Garmint. Look it up. Google it. Find open fabric. So like lace is made out of lace or is lace just a... It's just like a type of fabric.
Starting point is 00:28:11 It's like, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Fucking. Like a lace napkin or something. Yeah. You know like a lace napkin? Or denim. necklace wow never thought about that now everyone listening being like your idiots are like some
Starting point is 00:28:24 people listening are like holy shit hyphids did you know that breakfast is breaking the fast all right but only later great we got to educate this young man anyway what we're doing okay this trivia question's from tray tray what's up tray and i don't i don't know how to pronounce this but it's somewhere in alaska it's a small town and there's like a i don't know how to say the name Try. Yeah. Do an accent, too. Well, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Akikovic. What is it? It's UTK-I-G-V-I-K. I don't even know if that's like Native American or Russian or I don't know what. All right. Okay. Anyway, in the middle of somewhere in Alaska, the sun went down on November 18th. What day do you think it will come back up?
Starting point is 00:29:13 November 18th. Went down November 18th. When will the sun return? What a great question. from Trey. This is a great question. Does Trey live there? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:29:25 But I did not ask. He probably would have said that. I feel like he definitely would have mentioned that. All right. I also didn't get very close on this one. So you guys should win. Okay. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Three, two, one. February 23rd. What did you say? Really close. I said February 20th. Oh, 23rd. Weirdly close. What did you say, Hyvitz?
Starting point is 00:29:54 I was not even close. said, I said December 11th, which was super wrong. The answer is January 22nd. Damn it. Bang. The place in Alaska is going to go 65 days. So that's fine. What is it?
Starting point is 00:30:07 How many days? 65 days without the sun. Wow. There's a, there is a village somewhere up near the Arctic Circle that I believe is like a Norwegian town. And it's kind of the same deal as this place where the sun just goes down and then like three or four months later.
Starting point is 00:30:28 They're just waiting. It's just dark for a huge part of the year. God damn, what is that place called? I'll look it up. Anyway, Craig, who you taking? Strange. I found some strange. Nice.
Starting point is 00:30:42 D.K. I'll take Waller. It sucks ass. Darren Waller. I think Waller's good. All he does is score touchdowns. The Miami is that pass it to the Italian's offense. And I think Darren Waller is an honorary Italian because he kind of just showed up.
Starting point is 00:30:59 but Jalen Waddle went away. Did the Giants just botch a field goal? I'm gonna fucking go. Yeah, that was, I've never really seen anything quite like that before. I hate that so much. I'm so upset. You know what? I feel so stupid for thinking they were going to win this game.
Starting point is 00:31:11 What the fuck happened? Oh, yes. Fall Bard is the name of the place I was thinking of. Dude, the kicker. So what happened? What did Young Way did? The holder muffs the ball a little bit and the kicker just stops and doesn't kick the ball. He's like, well, it's like they were practicing. Young way.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Oh my God. Have you ever, it's like they were practicing and Youngway was like, no, no, wait, you screwed that up. Let's try that again. Do you know, I actually don't think I've seen that in the NFL in a long time. You see that a lot in like high school, sometimes in college. That was, that would have won Ike of the week.
Starting point is 00:31:47 It looks like his foot got stuck. He just froze. Probably got turf tone out. Kick it in the ground. All right. High Fitzs, which tit end are you taking? My season of the line is pretty hard because there's Harold Fanon and the Browns,
Starting point is 00:32:00 But I'm like, you know, have Shitterer Sanders be your quarterback and like throwing a fan. And I don't want to go down that way. I probably do Isaiah likely on the Ravens, which I don't love either. Like Pittsburgh and then Sincey the next two weeks. I know. That's the thing. Defenses are kind of sives. 95 yards last week, even with the Ravens being a mess.
Starting point is 00:32:16 He should have a touchdown. So I think Isaiah likely. I also would throw out AJ Barner for the Seahawks, which I don't love either. But when the Sears played the Rams, they like 10 catches for 70 yards for AJ Barner. And then the Rams defense, I don't know. There's some similarities with what the Falcons do. And so I kind of wonder if AJ Barner might end up also getting a lot of catches instead of Injigba. So there's a chance of that.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Just a tush push. So, you know, you could have worse prayer tight ends than a guy that 10 catches just a few weeks ago. But I would go ahead and say a likely or AJ Barner. And then Harold Fanon maybe is good. But I can't. The way Craig can't go down with the Jets. I can't go down having Shooter Sanders need to complete a pass. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:51 No love for Evan Ingram. No, because I listen to you with the Broncos. He's also on the Broncos. Like the don't. Which is a negative in my mind. You said three weeks ago. you just were like Evan Ingram will randomly have a great game in week 13 and disappear. And then he did.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And I'm like, sure enough. So I'm not going to deal with that. Yeah, yeah. Okay. That's fair. We're going to get to quarterback's and defense in a second. But first,
Starting point is 00:33:14 Fandle's now live in Missouri. And to celebrate, we're going to go back to the start. And we're going to take a look at the mighty 1963, Kansas City Chiefs, the first year of the Chiefs. Craig, what were you doing in 63?
Starting point is 00:33:28 63. Three, I was working at the mill back then. He was on the grassy knoll. What kind of mill, Craig? Any, oh, but it was a bunch, couple mills. I was kind of bouncing back and forth. It was a multi-purpose mill. Yeah, it was kind of a multi-hyphenate mill.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Multi-hyphenate mill. Yeah. That's good. We were doing a lot of things. I was kind of a manager there. No, they do. So I was overseeing the mill. You were Mr. Manager, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Yeah. So the 63 chiefs, the chiefs were, the Dallas Texans, first. Then they moved to Kansas City. And they went to the Dallas Texans. They were the Dallas Texans. Yes. They were the Dallas Texans. And then they moved to Kansas City in 1963. And in honor of Fandle being live in Missouri, I wanted to go through some of the players in the 1963 chiefs, starting with a fullback named Jack Spikes. Fuck. They don't make them like that. Greg, did he work at the mill with you? Jack Spites? Yeah. He was doing, he was doing the hard work, though. He was like, he was our macho guy.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Right, right. I don't know where the rankings of like names for players, just things that look cool in a jersey, but spikes is like s. Jack spikes. When I go, when I go hiking, I always bring my jack spikes. Other players in this team, other names, there's Dick Johnson. Okay. Feels like those were a dime a dozen back then. If I could, I had a nickel for all the Dick Johnson's I do back in the day.
Starting point is 00:34:55 A lot of Dick Johnson's at the mill. All of the mills were filled with Dick Johnson's. of the form of what are the type of mills what give me a mill saw mill saw mill grain mill uh types of that's a good question what are the other types of mills i don't even really know like what do you milling those are physical mills i want to grain mills stamp mill pebble mill maybe what is a mill i don't they mill things what is a mill grinding and processing materials like grain ore and cement also is a saw mill isn't that more of a tool than it is an actual building?
Starting point is 00:35:32 Like, it's not like a... Sometimes they put it in a building. I think they just, like, chop wood. You're milling a log. Like, when I think... Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I think of a mill, I'm thinking of, like, a large, kind of factory-like situation.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Hmm. Is that not what you're thinking of? You're thinking of, like, a little tractor thing that you, like, mill grain with? I'm thinking of a building. I think it's both, because the building has a big mill. Right. Correct.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Okay, give me some more names. Oh, yes. Johnson. Okay, we got Jack Spikes and Dick Johnson. Smokey Stover. Smokey's cool, man. Lyingbacker is Smoky Stover. Man, that's good. I kind of want to hang out with Smoky Stover.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Smoky Stover worked at a mill? No, I'm kidding. I'm going to load that on him. Then the other guy, oh, dude, there's some, this, this team, I love, I mean, Dwayne Wood. There was a comic strip called Smokey Stover. That's probably why he was called that. No. Oh, that actually probably
Starting point is 00:36:32 That's a good call. It's from the 30s. Oh, wow. I also can't, Dick Johnson really played every position on this team, which is incredible. I bet he did. I also love Abner Haynes.
Starting point is 00:36:47 That's, Abner Haynes. I feel like I know that name. Should you bring Abner Haynes back? Was Abner Haynes famous? He was the 1960 S.N. Player of the Year. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I think that rings a bell. He just died last year. Oh, no. RIP, 86 years old. RIPD Abner Haynes. Jack Spikes, his photo on Wikipedia, is a player card. Like a painting? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:15 He was drawing of him on a card. He was the fullback, halfback, and kicker. See, they could do two or three different things. Dude, the fucking linebackers can kick, but punters can. Back of the day, they didn't worry about how tired your leg was going to get. That wasn't even part of their thing. That wasn't in the vocabulary. They didn't say tired.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Yeah, give me a break. Okay. Remember, Fandall's now live in Missouri and they're celebrating with a ton of great promotions and rewards for everyone. So sign up today and take advantage all week long. You don't want to miss out. I want to start a contest out there for people.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Jack Spikes is one of the shorter wikipedia's I've ever seen. I want people to submit the shortest Wikipedia of a real human being they can find. So you're good enough. It's like you just cleared the Wikipedia bar. but not enough to have a substantial page. Giants just gave up another touchdown. To who?
Starting point is 00:38:12 Is that a touchdown? 33 are a touchdown. They're reviewing it. It's one. He might have dragged his foot. You know what? I don't, this team sucks.
Starting point is 00:38:24 I don't know. It might be in. I don't think he's in. That left knee came down before his right foot. I keep forgetting Kyle Williams is on the team. Oh, he's been given a two. these Pat's jerseys unfortunately rip.
Starting point is 00:38:39 I know. All the throwback jerseys are good. It's a freaking revolutionary war soldier hiking a football. It's sweet. It's really cool. Dude, the Seahawks ones they wore this week were awesome. The Broncos ones are sweet. They're all good.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I love the mascots playing. Like, I do kind of want more. I know. Part of me, the Vikings have a dolphin with a helmet on. I love the dolphin with the helmet on. Like, the Vikings have the horns, which is cool. But I kind of want to see something of a Viking playing football. Like, there's a lot of good stuff out there.
Starting point is 00:39:05 I agree. We're having like a branding crisis in America right now. I swear. There's like all these, you can watch and read all these things about how logos and fonts and everything is just like regressing to the same, uh, oversimplified like minimalist look.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I hate it. You know? I, so, you're right, Craig. I also, I can't believe the dolphins took the helmet off the dolphin.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Oh yeah. Right. Imagine being the person who was like, no helmet. Yeah. Everything is less creative now. It's more market test that I suppose and cleaner and simpler. sleeker, but I liked when it just felt like
Starting point is 00:39:37 it was three guys in a room being like, what if we put a helmet on a dolphin? That's what I want. Like the bucket ears were like an actual It feels like there's human touch on the things that you're consuming, you know? I want the person you should be in charge of all this is the person who is like, I want a giant pirate ship
Starting point is 00:39:55 in the Tampa Bay Stadium. Yeah. That person should just design all the stadiums. Yeah, there's a really cool. There's like some ridiculous AI edit of like what every, NFL stadium should actually be. And it's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:40:10 It's like the Bengals. It's like a jungle. And there's like, you know, there's like a literal pirate ship like in a river going through Tampa Bay. It's, it's cool. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Craig, I was looking at some old, I was like perusing old eBay, on eBay, like old ads. Yeah. Just because it's really interesting, like, obviously now they just like run out of things to say,
Starting point is 00:40:31 I think. But like there was some Winston cigarette commercials that were just like, Like, Winston tastes good. Guinness is good for your health. Yeah, that's, oh, that's exactly right. This is like the band. All the Guinness ones. This is like the band's thing.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Like nothing had been said yet, you know? They could just, they had all this. They could say whatever they wanted. It's like drink Ovalteen. A great start of your day. Breakfast with Ovalteen. Yeah. See?
Starting point is 00:40:55 All right. There was a bunch of ads. I don't know why I was just perusing like the cigarette ads, but there's like a bunch that just said, low tar. Yeah. for a clean, smooth finish. They milled the tar.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Yeah. Less tar. Extra, extra milled tar. Okay. Well, speaking of ads. Now for a special segment of today's episode, smarter moves, presented by Chime here to help you bank smarter this season. Chime's got smarter moves for your money and we've got smarter moves to your league this week.
Starting point is 00:41:27 If you need a quarterback, I think the quarterback, because again, I mean, Jackson, Dart, Brock, Bertie, Bryce Young, Drake, May all are on by and then Justin Herbert has a broken hand. He might play. He's a metacarpal fracture on his left end, but it's Monday-day football. So I don't think you want to leave the Herbert decision to Monday because if he doesn't play, you're kind of screwed, although we can talk about that. And then you have Aaron Rogers, who has a broken wrist, his fractures and his wrist. They didn't displace, but still, that's not great.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Jordan Love, also just a weird amount of non-throwing shoulder arm injuries this year between Aaron Rogers and Herbert. Jordan Love, Jaden Daniels, Baker. The new mallet finger. Yeah, it's the new mallet figure, the non-throw. Turf toe on the non-throwing arm. So with that said, quarterback's the striven. I think Trevor Lawrence, if he's available, I think Trevor Lawrence is the best thing you could do at quarterback
Starting point is 00:42:10 because he runs, he throws, like, Trevor Lawrence is more mobile than you think for someone who kind of runs a little bit like a newly born giraffe. So I think you could do Trevor Lawrence. If not, he's probably rostered. The two people, if you have Herbert in particular, but I also think he works, Tray Lance, I think if you have Justin Herbert, you should add Tray Lance
Starting point is 00:42:27 because I don't know if he can play, but he can move and he can still run and watching the preseason, I was like, oh, I don't know. And probably bad. It will probably be a disaster, but I think Trey Lance for Fantasy can totally get you a very ugly 16 points of Herbert doesn't play. And if you have a Monday in football and you're going to play Herbert, I think it's essential. The other person that's like, Tarad Taylor for the Jets.
Starting point is 00:42:44 I know it's ugly, but Tarad Taylor had 20, 21 points last week in fantasy. He ran for 40 plus yards and a touchdown. Like, it's not great. But I think Tarad Taylor, like, you could do a lot worse if in a pinch than a guy. It's weird to say about, I think he's 36 years old, but he is faster than most NFL quarterback. So I think if you're really, really, really down back. you can do that because, you know, I'm not going to recommend J.G. McCarthy or whatever,
Starting point is 00:43:09 despite the schedule. Kirk Cousins is playing the Seahawks. Cam Ward is playing the Browns. Like a lot of the quarterbacks are available have horrible matchups. So I think Terrat Taylor is probably the best move you got. How do you feel about the fact that even if Herbert does play? I mean, this is getting surgery. He had surgery today, Monday and he might play this week, Monday night a week from now.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Do you think you should even play Herbert? Because there's a chance that like Lance is like comes in on the goal line anyway. You know what I mean? I don't know. So it's weird because. because the non-throwing hand, it really affects the running game more. And obviously it can make it worse by-
Starting point is 00:43:41 and under-center, yeah. But it makes under-center snaps harder and it really, it's when you, I always get this wrong, mirroring it. But it's like when you turn, run to the left, you've got to hand it with your right arm. I don't know why I can ever do that in my head, but like it affects running to one side sometimes.
Starting point is 00:43:56 So that's the problem is where they can grip the ball. So he probably will end up doing what Rogers did last week if it's really a problem and, like, take the pistol. I think Jim Harbaugh would rather change, the entire offense to have Justin Herbert play than try to have Jay Lance play. I think Jim Harbour would rather have Herbert get the ball out and all the time. But
Starting point is 00:44:13 yeah, maybe you don't want to play Herbert at all. But Herbert says he's going to play and I kind of think you Herbert will play. But you do need a backup plan. So, you know, I will probably, for a lot of people who have Herbert if you're in a super flex league, something like that, which I am in my home league and I have Herbert,
Starting point is 00:44:29 honestly, like, if you're in a sharp enough league, there are literally no quarterbacks on the way orware. And so Trey Lance might be your only option. Yeah, and he's definitely available. So, and if someone else has Herbert and you're going to play them, pick up Trey Lance so they can't have them. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Defense this week, I'm just going to list a few teams because you never know what defenses are available. The Browns versus the Titans, I know that's obvious, but if the Browns defense is available in playing Tennessee, it's like the opportunity of a lifetime. I kind of think Miles Garrett has an outside shot to just break the sack record this week against the Titans. Cam Ward has been sacked more than any quarterback,
Starting point is 00:45:01 and he's playing the Browns. The Eagles versus the Chargers, I think the Eagles are available in more leagues than you would think. And they're playing perhaps Tray Lance, which would be quite the thing for the Eagles. So keep an eye on that. I also think the Colts versus the Jaguars. I don't know if that's traditionally a great matchup or whatever,
Starting point is 00:45:20 but I kind of just still think Trevor Lawrence is a little bit of a blockhead and he can do great in fantasy, but still throw a pick six. Like Trevor, I can kind of already see Cam Byne him, the cult safety just dancing in the end zone or something, doing one of his rom-com dances or something. So I kind of think the Colts defense is pretty good there. I also wanted to mention a bunch of stash candidates for defense because if you already clinched the playoffs and you want to look ahead,
Starting point is 00:45:41 if you want to look at if you are, if you don't have a first round buy and you're going to play in week 15, San Francisco has a buy in a week 14, but in week 15 they play the Titans. And again, the Titans are awful and just scored three points against Jacksonville and Cam Ward's been sacked the most. So the Niners don't agree defense, but the Titans week 15. The Eagles defense are playing the Raiders in week 15.
Starting point is 00:46:01 That's also just very juicy. Dallas, I never would have thought I'd recommend this, but Dallas is defensive better is playing the Vikings in week 15. And until JJ McCarthy looks better, if you're in the league where you're like, oh, none of these defenses are available. Dallas defense is available.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And you could get J.G. McCarthy. And then the other one, even the Bears, Bears, week 15, you don't want to play them in week 14, but Bears week 15, the Browns are in Chicago. And I think the Bears defense, who has the most turnovers,
Starting point is 00:46:30 the Charder, like I think that, Again, another team that's, I think, super available in fantasy is the Bears' defense, and you could do a lot worse than having should Derby, the quarterback your defense is facing in week 15. If you've already clinched a first round by, which hopefully you have because you're listening to the show, the teams I would highlight that, again, I think these are probably available. The Bills also playing the Browns in Week 16. And maybe Quinchon Junkins can run in the Bills a lot, but I just think the Browns are a smart team to target.
Starting point is 00:46:57 The Chiefs are playing the Titans in Week 16. So Cam Ward versus the Chiefs. And then the Steelers, who if they're not available, they're going to, get cut. The Steelers play the Browns in week 17. So the Steelers, I know the defense is tough and like, I know you've seen teams running them, but part of me still just, maybe I'm
Starting point is 00:47:13 making too much of this, but I just think Shadurr Sanders, Cam Ward, J.J. McCarthy, like any of these teams that have playmakers like a T.J. Watt, like, I would just spam and target all the guys that are playing this team. So I think that that's a defense that's probably available. And needless to say, Texans, Browns, Seahawks, the great defenses that they're
Starting point is 00:47:29 available to get them. But those are the teams that throughout. Yeah, Steelers is a good one. Steelers Brown's Week 17. Like that would be something. All right. That's it for this week's edition of smarter moves. But remember, if you want to make your smartest move yet, switch to CHIME. Chime is a financial technology company, not a bank.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Banking services provided by the Bankor Bank NA or Stride Bank and a members FDIC learn more at chime.com. Okay. All right. Emails. Emails. I have a trivia question here that didn't work, but I wanted to read it anyway. Okay. It didn't work?
Starting point is 00:48:07 Well, it's not a, it's from Zuck. It's not a closest to the pin one. Yeah. Zuck's breakfast was two Chick-fil-A-Biscuits and one large vanilla milkshake. Jesus Christ. What's his name? Zuck. Z-Suck.
Starting point is 00:48:18 What's up, Z-Bone? Chick-flay biscuits and a, you said a vanilla milkshake? A large vanilla milkshake. For breakfast? That sounds amazing, actually. Is it like a, like a Thanksgiving week only kind of thing? Or is that kind of an everyday situation? If it's every day, I'm very proud of you.
Starting point is 00:48:35 It's wild. So Zuck's trivia question was, what was the name of Teddy Roosevelt's pet hyena? Of course. And I kind of wanted to see if we could guess and just decide who was closest. I got to say, like, in the recesses of my brain, I maybe knew that he had a pet hyena. But I did not. And that's really what I wanted to talk about is Teddy Roosevelt had a hyena. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:59 You can have a pet hyena? Well, it turns out back in the day. Was it in the White House? Well, I don't know. man, written up the upholstery. Where the fuck did they get it? Well, I think it was given by the president of Ethiopia. He was like hunted every animal in the world.
Starting point is 00:49:14 So, but he went and got it from Africa? Uh, that, hold on. Now I get, oh yeah. So this is the National Park Service, all the pets. And apparently, I guess people just give the president pets. So also you never guess. Wait, first of all, what do you think the hyena's name was? Zach.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Jack Spikes. The hyena was named. Bill. Bill. Damn it. Okay. That was right there. Bill the hyena.
Starting point is 00:49:43 And he was a gift from the emperor of Ethiopia. But I really went down this rabbit hole of all the animals people would just give Teddy Roosevelt. So he, the Roosevelt kids had a small. I remember that why I put this in. The Roosevelt kids had a small bear named Jonathan Edwards. Jonathan Edwards. Yes. This is on the National Park Service government web.
Starting point is 00:50:05 site. A first and last name. They had a lizard named Bill. All right. Another, they had a lizard name bill and a hyena name bill. Not a lot of options back then. Gany Pigs named Admiral Dewey, Dr.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Johnson, Bishop Done and fighting Bob Evans. Fighting Bob. Fighting Bob Evans. They're friends who died in the war or something. Oh, there's all sorry. Father of Grady. This was the children named these? I guess.
Starting point is 00:50:29 I don't know. The kids name a guinea pig, Father O'Grady? It's like they named Cuddles. or something. The pig named Mod. Mod. M-A-U-D.
Starting point is 00:50:41 M-A-U-D. It's a good movie. A badger named Josiah. Okay. A badger. This is like, he's like president. This is happening.
Starting point is 00:50:53 He has a blue macaw named Eli Yale. Wait, are these all presidents in the history of this country or who are we talking about? Teddy Roosevelt. This is always president. Just Teddy had all these animals. Where were they? kept were they all separate? Could they hang out together? Did any get along?
Starting point is 00:51:09 I would love to know if they were unlikely friendships that were... Unlikely animal friendships. It's the hyena and the guinea pigs getting along. Was Bill hanging out with Josiah? This should be like instead of the real wives of Mormon wives, we should have like all the pets. Was there any fighting? Did one and eat the other? Of course. I want to know.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Dude, I saw hyenas in Africa. Those are some ugly motherfuckers. Oh, yeah. So found they make as crazy as too. They are creepy looking. They do the little, like, yeah, they just like, they, they just look sinister. What do they do? No.
Starting point is 00:51:43 They have like a, they have like a weird like, like posture. They're kind of hunched with. Lion King caught and got it right. They did. Lion King got a right animal. They walk all fucking weird. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Get like a hunchback. They look, they're brooding at all times. Yeah. They look like they're up to something. They are up to something. Yeah. Trying to come steal your young or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:05 The hyenas. Maybe hyenas get a bad rap. I don't know. No, they get a, I think they get a good. I think the rep is accurate. I think the rep is accurate for the hyenas. It's not like a pit bull situation. If you're a hyena, email us in, let us know what it's really like.
Starting point is 00:52:18 If anyone thinks we're besmirching the hyenas, I think the hyenas are accurate. They're like, you know, we're not in. Although I, I did. It's literally a word for like a really dicky person. I saw a crazy article though. A heena. I saw a crazy thing. There's the Washington Post or something where they were, it was about how whether
Starting point is 00:52:34 raccoons are the next animal that's going to be domesticated. And on the scope of like thousands of years, like next year, not like pets now. You know, there are videos online of people who have raccoons. Well, that's what it's about. And they were talking about how some people are taking him in. And they're like, that sounds crazy to be like pet raccoons. But you got to remember dogs, cats.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Like this took like thousands of years. And there's evolutionary changes, obviously because, you know, English bulldogs weren't exactly waddling around like that those years ago. The point being raccoons, and you can kind of sit, they're getting cuter. The snouts are getting shorter. The snouts and raccoons and cities. They're evolving to be domesticated. That's like an indication of domestication.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Yes. They're evolving to be a desired as a pet. Desired as a pet and people, more teeth is like less. They don't chew with their mouth open anymore. Yeah. But like if you Google raccoons, man, no, these fuckers are cute. Did you guys ever hear the Nate Bargazzi bit about dogs and how dogs have changed? He's like, they say that you shouldn't let your dog sleep in your bed because then you can't
Starting point is 00:53:38 assert dominance anymore. He's like, have you seen dogs these days? He's like, when I was growing up, they were basically just one step down from a wolf. They just lived out in the backyard. Your friend comes over and you're like, should we go out there? He's like, I wouldn't. Dogs these days are like wearing sweaters. They're on your front.
Starting point is 00:54:02 flight. Greg is holding the dog at a restaurant with you. I have, dude, he walked around. Did you have to hold the dog on a flight? I did,
Starting point is 00:54:12 Greta. You had to hold the dog on the flight for like three hours. For a three hour flight she passed out next to me. Dude, people walk their dogs in strollers. Wait,
Starting point is 00:54:20 can you be hashed that for people who never heard that story? I was flying to Utah, a woman next to me, maybe in her 40s, had a bunch of clothes on her lap, just had all this luggage and this tiny little dog,
Starting point is 00:54:28 a little chihuahua, and Greta. And Greta kind of saunt. sauntered over onto my lap before the plane took off, and she was like, oh, she likes you. And I, you know, I was like, oh, ha, ha, whatever, assuming that this would be maybe five minutes before Greta
Starting point is 00:54:41 goes back onto her owner's lap. Well, the plane, you know, starts picking up speed, getting ready to take off. I look over at this woman. She's passed out. Dude, that's crazy. And Greta nestles into my lap, and I held onto her for the entire three-hour flight.
Starting point is 00:54:54 We landed. The woman wakes up, and she goes, oh, thank you. And I was like, yep. That's crazy. No problem. She's like, have a good one. Was the dog wearing clothes? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Chihuahuas are notoriously like mean too if they're to people that they don't know. Was the dog nice to you? Yeah, it was like terrified. It was on a plane. It was like, where the fuck am I? Do you think she was pretending to be asleep because she didn't want to deal with it? Or do you think she was sorry? No, she seemed to sleep.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Like barred out? She was more than asleep. Yeah. And then when we landed the. guy sitting across the aisle from me as we walked out he was like, I saw everything that happened and you're a saint. That's good karma.
Starting point is 00:55:38 I like it when people are like, I saw what you just went through. I want it known. You are not a ho. Juan Jennings is a hoe. I want that known. We got to start calling people hoes. That's, again, that's a thing, man. He's a hoe and I want that known. Like, I see why he got punched the nuts. Hold on. Remandre
Starting point is 00:55:56 Stevenson is tearing up the I hate the Giants. Can we go back to the dog thing Remondi just caught like a 40-yard pass. Dude, I, I, do you know I almost, this was almost my argument against it was like Drake May and Mike Vramble are still just better than Dart and like I still kind of think when the head coach and quarterback are unquestionably better than the other side, just the points are just going to hit.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Why do we bet on this? Oh, God. It's 27 to 7 heading into halftime, potentially more. So we got them right where we want them. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so they're going to kick a field goal. so it's likely going to be 30 to 7. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Do you think Treveon Henderson's going to play in the second half? Probably not. I think we're going to see a lot of Torrell Jennings. Yeah, I think so too. However, 30 to 7, if this were the bears, this is where Ben Johnson would say, we've got them right where we want them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:50 You know, so there is a world in which you're kind of lulling them into a false sense of security. This is when you pounce, like a hyena. Email us if you know anything about hyenas or raccoons. Hello, raccoon pet they are really cute their little hands their little hands are cute they're like dexterous with their hands yeah they're getting they can hold stuff which is a little creepy in a home like they can hold shit yeah you can like give them like they can like like eat m&ms they
Starting point is 00:57:14 just look like a little person it's fucking weird we're all worried about AI meanwhile the raccoons are going to start living in our houses they're cute they're all very cute they're trash pant bandits I think I think they'll end up in homes I'm like they look they're already so close right right because because they're usually in your side yard digging through your trash. They already know you a little bit. Well, they're like, yeah, because they're halfway there. When you see a raccoon outside, they don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:57:39 They're just like hanging out. They don't like run away. Squirrels two these days. You guys city squirrels, they don't give a fuck. Like, yeah, for sure. Say with birds. City birds, don't give a shit. You can kick it and be like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:57:52 Dude, the bird, that underrated part of, especially in York again. They don't, you're like, you get the, like, you scare them away. They're like, you get the fuck out of here. Every fucking bird in New York. is like Robert De Niro from taxi driver. That, like, is their mentality. Do you think the raccoons are going to evolve to no longer be nocturnal?
Starting point is 00:58:10 Oh. Oh, that's a good question. I don't know. That's probably for the scientists. I hope so. So we could see them more. Because they're cute as hell. Maybe, I know.
Starting point is 00:58:18 That would suck if they were sleeping the whole day and then up all night. That's kind of the worst pet. That would be a terrible pet, actual. Awful. If you're working the, if you're working the grave art shift, raccoon, great pet.
Starting point is 00:58:29 You know, like a couple years ago, A raccoon got into my wife's parents' house And got in a fight with the house cat In the middle of the night And they chased each other The raccoon chased the cat around the house And we woke up in the morning And there was like little raccoon and cat paw prints
Starting point is 00:58:49 All over the house And papers were everywhere You could basically trace Where it went all throughout the house And then The cat was fine. I don't know who was chasing who But the cat seemed to
Starting point is 00:59:01 fine. And then so we wake up the next morning. How did this not wake you up? I don't know. It's good question. I imagine the sounds of that must have been horrifying. It was all downstairs and everybody was sleeping upstairs. I guess they didn't hear it. But the next day, the next day, we're all hanging out. It's the morning. I don't know. It's like 10 a.m. or something. And we hear a loud shriek from the master bathroom upstairs from Liz's mom. And me and Liz's two brothers. dad grab golf clubs and run upstairs and the raccoon is in the bathroom. And she opened the door to go into the bathroom and saw the raccoon and immediately shut it and screamed.
Starting point is 00:59:42 And the raccoon was in there for like four hours. We had to call Animal Control. This woman came. She had like a popular TikTok account. So she was like filming herself doing it. Oh my God. And she like wrangled the raccoon. Put it in a little kennel and took it out.
Starting point is 00:59:59 She did the thing with like the hook where they get it by the neck. There's a video of it. You can find her TikTok and you can see. Find this TikTok. You can, I'll do it. I'll find it. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:00:08 so that thing literally like, you know, fought Liz's cat and then came upstairs and went into the master bathroom, probably like drink water of the toilet. I have no idea. And then just hunkered down there for the night. Kind of did the hard part for you, though,
Starting point is 01:00:24 putting it in the bathroom. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, I was honestly, I guess the best case of the area. Locked it in there?
Starting point is 01:00:30 Maybe. The cat is, just the cat. The cat must have been so pissed. Cats are hard. Cats are fucking crazy. All they do all day is just go hunt and kill things. What I love about cats,
Starting point is 01:00:41 cats domesticated people. Like cats, cats are in charge of people. I know. Right. Well, that's why I said this on a recent show. Cats just set up franchises.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Every cat I've ever freaking seen has like four houses where they get food and can hang out. My buddy's house has a cat from the neighborhood who apparently this cat lives in a house with like eight. kids and the cat just comes over to their house to get some peace and quiet. Like watch sports in the garage. Just drinking a beer. Watching the game.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Just I'm having a beer. Leave me alone. They're ruckus across the street. I can't live in that area. To get some peace and quiet, read a book. Oh, that's really funny. But you see this cat like crack at a beer. Just like, oh.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Maybe that's what the raccoon wanted. He just wanted to sit on the John. Seriously. It's like the only place in this world you can get some Peace and quiet. I'll send that TikTok. I'll find that. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:38 All right. Oh, I didn't do the thank you. Wow, we're still in the show. That's crazy. All right. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you, Craig, Carlos, Ronick. Austin, thank you, everyone for listening.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Thank you. Emails for your fancy football, gino.com for trivia. And raccoons. I don't even know about the hyenas anymore. I kind of want stories of animals trapped in your home. I like that. Crazy stories of animals in your home. Thank you, Lord.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Lord. Thank you, the knife. One of these days you're going to have to mix in a big one. I think I've won for the last 10 and even knowing what band he's talking about. Absolutely not, great. This is like when Bill does like... Do you want me to say the fucking Beatles again? This is like when Bill does pump up the volume on the rewatchables or like a movie that you like literally can't even find online.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Right, right. Who is the knife? We never talked about them. Well, I did the young way coup right there. It's a Swedish electronic music duo. I'm just reading their Wikipedia right now from God. Gothenburg or Gatenberg. I don't know how you say that.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Do you not know who they are? No, I know who they are. I know of their music. I've listened to it. In fact, I enjoy it. I don't know if I celebrate their entire catalog, but the song that I listen to is called Heartbeats, and I believe you probably recognize it.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Okay. Maybe not. I don't know. What era are we in with this band? We're like early or like early aughts, late 90s. This is what you would put on when you were out looking for some strange. Absolutely. Roll the windows down.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Looking for some strange. Go on fuel. Put your ear ring in. Craig's like the old, Craig's doing the whole, I'm out looking for some strange. Sorry, I put up the three fingers like from Inglorious Bastards. Yeah. An ear ring. Put in my earring.
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