The Ringer NFL Show - ‘Shark Tank’ Prop Bets - Week 11

Episode Date: November 19, 2021

We run through last second injury updates from the week before pitching each other our favorite prop bets for the weekend’s games in the style of ‘Shark Tank.’ Later, we offer up our favorite long-shot bets. Finally, we introduce our new FanDuel daily fantasy contest! Sign up to play against us HERE! News (2:01) Prop Bets (10:22) Long-Shot Bets (51:25) NEW Listener League (59:21) Don’t forget to sign up and compete against us in the Bad QB League on FanDuel HERE.  Email us at [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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18th. for Fandle. And you can play against us. You can beat us. You can actually take our money. Wouldn't that be nice? Take my money. Take it. I don't want it. Terry Bradshaw commercials on Fox. Just take our money. Take $100,000 of Terry's money. I want to win my money. I want to win more money. Yeah, obviously we want that money. We got a shout out. So the guy who won last week, guy or girl, not sure who, BK. Raleogic, 24. It doesn't matter. That person won. They won $7,000. Damn. You know how much? I won zero.

I won money. So join the league. I think. High Fitz, you want some money? I did. And then also bad quarterback league. We're still rolling with it. I also want money in that. Not to brag.

I'm up like single digit dollars on this year going. So like I don't want to be, you know, hot shot. But like, we're in the green. Hyford, you're making so much money. You could get a living chef. Oh my gosh. Wonderful segue. What a segue.

So, okay. So I don't, it's always a risk of Antonio Brown news that something has changed by the time you put out content. but basically Antonio Brown's live-in chef is claiming that Antonio Brown obtained a fake COVID-19 vaccination card to avoid NFL protocols. I'm reading the Tampa Bay Times right now.

This is the least surprising story I've heard all year. It's always the fucking live-in chef that snitches you out, isn't it? Don't you hate that? I feel like there's been so much weird stuff this year. I read that, I was like, yeah, that totally sounds like it happened.

Yeah, pretty much it's like, yeah. We're at the point now where I like saw it and I was like, oh, and then I kept scrolling. That's exactly what happened to me. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's, I could, I can envision that scenario. Other things, because A.B. does not really deserve any of the space between our ears. Alvin Camara might miss another week.

Just, you know, watch out for that. Like, we'll see if Alvin Camer can even play this week. And the other. A lot of injuries actually this week, like, Eli Mitchell is a broken finger. Up in the air. Don't know what's going to happen with that. That was like a late.

Oh, my God, I didn't even know that. So the Elijah Mitchell injury. is annoying. The Steelers, I mean, we'll get to that. But who knows if the actual Pittsburgh Steelers will show up or if they'll just have to hire a bunch of people in LA to put on the Steelers uniforms? Who's going to play quarterback for the Cardinals this week, you guys?

I feel like it. Pop quiz. Pop quiz. Who is the quarterback that's going to play? Not named Kyler Murray. Oh, I know this guy. I know actually a lot about this guy. Who is it? Oh, yeah.

Chris Trevler? Yeah. I know so much. So if you Google Chris Stevever. He was like he won some. I think he won the gray cup in Canadian football and if you Google Chris Dreveller like Steveller but with an R

Streveler, how it written. I thought it was a photo of him at the parade. I think he's like smoking. He's wearing like a fur coat because it's in Canada in the winter and he's like fur coat, bare chest, looks like Connor McGregor

with just the trophy and like a cigar. Oh, I just found this. And he just looks like a discount Connor McGregor celebrating. You see the picture? Yeah. I'm not going to laugh. I watched him in the preseason

he's kind of fun. He's funny runs. He's just huge. And then also, oh yeah, he's like playing air guitar on this. Also, the Canadian football trophy is so much cooler and larger than the Lombardi.

It looks like the Stanley Cup. It's badass. It's huge. It's kind of incredible. It's so much better than the NFL trophy. I got another backup quarterback pop quiz for you guys.

If Jared Gough does not play, do you know who's going to start? Yeah, I actually think this is the most known, unknown person. Tim Boyle. Tim Boyle? It's David. It's David Blow, isn't it?

No, it's Tim Boyle. Oh, shit. What happened to David Blow? Because I remember he applied to plan Thanksgiving. I'm like one day's notice two years ago. Well, we don't actually know for sure. That's kind of like the weird thing is like Tim Boyle, technically speaking, is on injured reserve right now. However, he's been taking first team snaps.

Exactly. So that's, it sounds like he's going to start. Also, Boyle, is this like a soft benching for Goff? Like, oh, he's got an oblique injury. With the same darnal with the shoulder. You know, don't worry. not coming back. Just keep looking for other stuff that's wrong. He's got the oblique. Can you dig deeper? Find something that's wrong with him so we can put him on the bench.

Dan Campbell's giving him Charlie horses. Oh my God. It's like sticks his foot out and trips him. The other one that I, another one that I just was like, oh my God, what else? Is the Lamar Jackson has a non-COVID illness. That dude is always sick. He's like worse than Calvin. He's going to daycare, comes back with foot, hand, and mouth disease or RSV. or whatever the hell else is going around the daycare? No, that's my son. But it kind of sounds like Lamar.

He keeps getting sick, man. Take some vitamins. It's like the second time this year he's been sick. And then there was the last year when he had to shit during the game. That was like, this guy's got some gastrointestinal problems. It's weak immune system. He needs like the gut health yogurt.

What's that stuff? He needs a cleanse. He needs probiotics. That's what he needs. Probiotics. That's what I was looking for. I'm getting those ads that are like, you know how much toxic poop is in your intestines?

And I'm like, what is that? Oh my God. They're like, I never knew what a cleanse meant. They're like, hey, it's just stuck in your creases of your intestines. Okay. I have a close family member as a doctor, and they told me that probiotics are actually overrated, and your body actually kind of produces enough of that bacteria anyway. What you should be taking is prebiotics, which don't have as much advertising,

but prebiotics are better for you. Well, it's one of those where it just enough of the truth is wrapped into like an intense lie that it sounds like it could be true, and then it just completely gets, you know, people, anyone over 50 who just seems to, I don't know. my father. That's all. I hope that... Let's just hope that Lamar is ready for the weekend because it just takes some vitamins.

And it's funny too, because they talk about how all he does is sleep. And usually those people have great immune system. What those ads at the bottom of articles, like, from Outbrain? And they're just like... Even at the bottom of ESPN ones that are just like, gut doctor says, eat these foods. And like the pictures are like quasi-sexual and weird and like Clickbait. And it's like we need that...

What am I clicking on here? This is going to take me to some random, like... That gut doctor. doctor that is in all live video. We need Lamar Jackson to get that guy. We're AJ Brown. I don't know. Before we move on to the propits, I want to make something very clear. For people who are not on Twitter, I tweeted this, I accidentally identified the dad on Bingo,

sorry, the dad on Bly as Bingo. The dad's name is Bandit. And I had a lot of Bully fans, very mad at me. I just misspoke. Canceled by the Bully fans. Okay, we regret the error. I know. God damn it. So I apologize to Bingo, and I apologize to Bandit, who is.

the dad. Bingo is the daughter. DK. As payment for your mistake, you have to try and say Blue Stone in an Australian accent. Yeah, do it right now. I'm definitely,

if it's just like, adamantly was telling me not to do it. This is your punishment, though. It's your punishment. Yeah, this is, yeah. I was trying to help you.

Now I'm trying to hurt you. Someone told us on Twitter is like basically the vowels, like, oh, especially in Australian accent, is like you like want to roll your face. You want to like roll your tongue a little. Like, oh, like that.

So blue, I don't know. Say it again. Say it, Craig. Give me, like, the key. I'm going to say, hold on. I'm going to do the Kyler Murray thing. Calamari.

Calamari. That was good. Yeah, Bernie tweeted us saying, if you want to say razor blades, like an Australian, you say rise up lights like an Australian, and I did it. It was like, rise up lights.

Rise up lights. You say rise up lights quickly and you can say razor blades on Australia. I want like a guide of that for every word. But yeah, Kyler Murray was, you could just say Calamari and it works,

and that was pretty fun. Craig, Give us one Blue Stone so we can have like a pallet cleanse and then move on. But the thing is, I don't even know if mine's that good. It's just better than you're guys. It's good to us. Just give me a chaser. That's something.

Let me talk about football, but let me hear it first. Blue Stone? I like it. You sound like the pelican and finding me. That sounds like infinitely better than mine. I don't understand how you do this. The people who didn't listen to the Wednesday episode are so confused right now. That's more reason to listen.

I was talking to, before we move on, real quick. I was talking to Craig about this after we got off the pod last week. I don't think you can teach someone. to do impressions. Like, it's, it's an innate thing. I completely disagree. Of course you can. Of course you disagree.

Hyph. Jesus Christ. How do all these actors in every, they're just learned to do these things? No, no, no. If Craig spent 75 straight hours trying to get me to say Blue Stone, I could still not do it correctly. I think it's, I think it's like 80% innate, 20% alert. I think it's somewhat like learning to, like knowing how to play the piano by ear where some people just have it.

Like Bill Hader just can do impressions. By nature. Obviously, some people are better at it, but like, there's actual linguistics coaches. You could, if you had one of the, look, the actors who go on shows, get a coach. I'm talking about, like, the Bill Hater, like the elite people at it, but that's fine. No, you're not Bill Hater, but like someone could teach you to do this. I don't think you could just pull the average person off the street and just teach them to do like a really good Tom Cruise impression. Like, I, that stuff's really hard.

I don't know. We went from specific people to like, you know, just an accent. I was talking about accents. You know, can we talk about football? I don't know how this has happened. Sure. You're the one arguing with me. Just say, okay.

I was like, let's do prop bets. And you're like, hold on, hold on. The best way to move on is just yes and. God, dude. Okay, I'm going to start. Sharks. God, there's already blood in the water. So, like, you know what?

You guys are only riled up. I'm going to keep this short and sweet. I'm out. Yes, and, D.K. Oh, my God. Okay, go ahead. You want it or out of my bet. That's how good this bet is.

You got to tell me. me up front. I'm out. All right, Craig's out, D.K., you and are out of my bet. Oh, my God. I want to be out because I'm annoyed at you, but I'm in. All right, D.K. Zend. Great. Let me tell you what you got, D.K. You have won. Patrick Mahomes over 39 pass attempts. All right. Like, it just seems too easy. Like, Mahomes usually obliterates this number. When he's below this, and again, the last six weeks when the whole thing has been going on with what it's going with the Chiefs, he's missed this

a couple times under by like three passes or five. When he goes over, he's over by or seven or 10 or 14. Like he's just, it's not proportional. Like this number, it's so close to what he usually does. But the overs are like 15 passes. I mean, and then they're playing the Cowboys. This is going to be a shootout. So I don't know.

Over 30 and pass attempts just seems easy to me, honestly. This feels like when you price something at 1999 and it looks a lot more affordable than if it said $20. If this said 40 pass attempts, I'd be so much more iffy on it. But 39, I'm like, oh, that's not so bad. Looking back, though, so he hasn't done this in five out of ten games, but you're right in that when he has gone over, he's gone way over, and when he goes under, it's like 37 pass attempts. Can I just note that last, so this week's just like over 39.

Last week it was over 38. He hit that before the third quarter ended. Yeah, he felt like 50 times last week, didn't he? And so the whole thing is like, what's the deal with the too high thing? We don't have to go into the goddamn too high thing anymore, but the point being the Raiders just stuck to their guns and did their own thing. The Cowboys, we're going to see how they play them, but like the Cowboys are candidates to do that too because they're a man coverage team and are they going to switch

what they do just to do what other teams have been doing, is that what they do? There's a whole argument there. But the point being, whatever happens, it's pretty good odds that he goes over this number. Yeah, I think I like it as well. Although I will say, I have some trepidation that the chiefs are just back. Like, I'm worried that the next time a team just runs that same too high defense, they're going to go right back to the middle of the year chief that we were so worried about. You know, like if the Cowboys just do that and Mahomes throws two picks and one touchdown next week,

Are we all going to be like, well, the Chiefs are solved again? I get that, but the quote-unquote two high games, Buffalo, he threw 54 passes. So that would be 14 more. It's like a quarter. Washington, he threw 47. The over under again is 39. The Titans won he went under. That was like their worst game to season, 27 to 3.

I don't think anyone thinks the Titans can be held the three points. The Giants won. Again, the Giants did the two high thing. Mohameds went over by eight extra passes. Like the Packers won. a little under. That was also kind of a weird game. It was Jordan Love. It wasn't exactly a shootout with Dak and the Cowboys. And then last week

where they went away, the Raiders went away from two-eye, he had 50 passes. Like, overall, unless you think it'll be like that weird Packers or Titans game that the Chiefs played, like, he's crushed this number. Crushed it. Also, I forgot to even mention the Cowboys don't have Randy Gregory or DeMarcus Lawrence, their best two pass rushers. So like

in terms of, like, he's going to have time in the pocket. The Too High thing actually kind of almost makes me feel like he's going to pass more. Because, like, let's say, let's just... Yeah, because then you have to engineer these, like, 11, 12 play drives. And he did this a few times against the Raiders, where he was basically just like, fine, I'll take what you're giving me.

I'll dump it off. And he was hitting his back foot. He was getting it out, like in rhythm and on time. And those are the things that we're missing in these games that their offenses really struggled. It's like he kind of drops back and then he tries to make something happen. He runs around and gets sacked or he throws it away or whatever. their offense was clicking.

He was 35 of 50 in this last game. And so the thought and like the theory, and my hope personally is that they just kind of got their mojo back. He just kind of like something clicked for them. And they're like, okay, well, we're going to take what the defense is giving us. They had Mikul Hardman sort of phased out of the offense. And they brought in like Byron Pringle and a couple other guys. Maybe those guys are just better at like being precise where they need to be like the route running and timing and all that.

So I don't know if I necessarily like am predicting that but that's kind of like my hope with the with the Chiefs and I think that's why this game like it could go the way the Hyphins is guessing. Do you think there's anything about like

specifically about the Cowboys that makes you think it's going to be like a track meet? Because I feel like they're kind of their offense nowadays is sort of like slow it down and run. I think there will be that that's fair but I still I think there will be a tremendous

amount of point score to this game. The over under I hope saying it's 56 and a half I also just think the Cowboys not having a pass rush I think matters a lot Yeah I like how DK even helped Hyvitz's argument I don't know what that's like in Shark Tank I feel like that's rare we're like Mr. Wonderful hops in And he's like hey guy I like your pitch but let me do a better bitch

Well you know why it's already in And Craig's already out so we don't even have to worry about it Listen I got to turn it back around for all those reasons that Hyfit's laid out and then DK came in and added to I am in baby It's actually The investment rounds closed, actually. Oh, is that right?

You can wait for the next investment. We'll wait for the series B. I don't even know what they're called, but yes. All right. Craig, what do you got? Sticking in this game. C.D. Lamb. Sharks. We all know him, love him. We're sharks. We love lamb.

It's over 71. Is that like the other guys? Do sharks eat lambs? I'm sure they would love it. No, what's the other guy's thing? It was like, if you were a tuna and I was a lion, I'd swim out of the ocean and eat you. Sharks, they haven't had lamb yet,

but when they do, boy, who we can construct breathing apparatuses. Okay, CD Lamb over 71 and a half receiving yards versus Kansas City. 71.5. Feels low. I mean, he did this in six of nine games this year. And this is the highest game total of the year. The Chiefs D is terrible.

They're 31st in yards per play aloud. I think this game's going to be high scoring. And most importantly, Cidiland's in the slot now, which I love with Michael Gallup. I love that. I love that. So tell me why you don't like this bet. I, my only concern is just when I see a number beginning with a seven, I'm like, oh, nope, it's a trap for receiving props. Really, though?

I mean, he sent it six of nine games, 71? Yeah, so the reason I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I, here's the thing, I'm not betting against CD-Land this, because he's crushing it. And also, I think Dwayne McFarland at PFF had this great note that basically CEDLAM is destroying, absolutely destroying man coverage. Like, he's burning dudes. He's basically getting wide open on like half of his routes. And the chiefs run a lot of man coverage. And like the other thing I'm interested in this game is that the Chiefs usually blitz a lot with Steve Spagnolo, but like you can't really blitz back right now. I think that's top two, top three, like best quarterbacks in the entire NFL when you blitz him right now.

So I don't know. C.D. Lamb, I'm not betting against the guy. I think this is high, but it's high because he's playing insanely well. My only issue is like the route distribution and like the Cowboys have so many options that they don't need CDLand and get 70 plus yards. I like it a lot. I really like the slot thing. Like the way. that they have sort of evolved their offense now with Gallup back and him playing in the slot. He can do like the slot fade type stuff, like the overroutes. I'll also be just like a security blanket over the middle. And what he's playing outside, like he said, he's beating press. He's beating man covers.

He's really good route runner, really good at the catch point. I agree kind of like with high fits that like the number does feel a little high just like very generally, not any player specific. But I think Lamb is going to go off. you know, I think I do buy the idea that this is going to be a very high-scoring game, so I'm in. This bet is so hot. The fire department is literally coming right now to extinguish the flames that Craig has left. Do you guys hear that? I can see.

They're just like, they're here right now. Watch out. So who do you guys think wins this game? Cowboys Chiefs? This, I wish, was Sunday Night Football. I mean, I think the Cowboys are going to win. I kind of do, too. The fire department agrees.

Is it in Dallas? It's in Dallas. No, it's in Kansas City. It's in Kansas City. Okay. I have a crazy note on this game on it being in Kansas City about who's so or at least for covering

is that this is from good old Rich Rebar at Sharp Football the Chiefs are 0 and 5 against the spread at home this season and they're 0 and 9 in their last nine home games against the spread Kansas City 0 and 9 in their last 9 home games meanwhile Cowboys are 4 and 0 against the spread on the road this season wow that's a great sense

no idea if that means one thing however it intrigued me. I think it does mean one thing that this bet will lose. Yeah, I agree. It's like when the kickers, it's like the announcers talking about the kickers.

So Hyphids, are you in or no? I'm in. DK. Cool, cool, cool. All right, sharks. Wait, you want to do this an Australian accent? Absolutely not.

I've embarrassed myself enough already. All right. Justin Fields over 34.5 rushing yards. Fields has now gone over this in three of the last four games or hold on, let me check. I think it was all four games. Yes, he's gone over this.

No, he missed it by one. So three of the last four games, he's gone over this number. Basically, since he decided to start running, which is, I think, a big crucial moment in his development because early in the season, he was dropping back, trying to, like, survey, see what's going on. Over the last four games, the game has slowed down and he has sped up

in terms of his processing and everything like that. So you did that. He definitely, like, he just looks different, man. When he hits his back foot, he sees it's not there. He takes off and runs, and it's like changed the way that their offenses run. I think it's given him much more confidence. He feels more in rhythm with the game. And crucially, he's running quite a bit.

This is mostly scrambles. And this isn't even account for maybe an uptick in designed runs that they give for him. So in the last four games, he's rushed six, eight, ten, and eight times. So he's averaging eight per game. His over under this week is seven and a half. So I think, like, pencil in seven, eight rushes for this guy in this game. And 34 and a half yards doesn't seem like a lot, especially when you're going up against the Ravens team. Primarily man coverage is like the big thing.

That means, generally speaking, quarterbacks are going to have their backs turned. It creates more space to run against. It's like man coverage teams, heavy man teams, generally speaking, are just like they have the chance to get gashed by mobile quarterbacks so much more because they're just not looking at the action. And zone. Can I ask you a stupid question, though? Yeah. Don't the Ravens understand that better than literally any other team because they love when Lamar gets me in coverage?

I mean, yes, they do, but I don't know if that necessarily means they're going to, like, change their strategy. Really, what I'm looking at this is, like, two or three, like, he could have, like, two big runs and get this, you know what I mean? And going up against a team like the Ravens, where I don't think the Ravens have a bad defense, but they haven't been clearly as good as we usually kind of, like, view them over the last few years.

And also the Ravens, I know that they practice against Lamar, but they haven't gone up against any mobile quarterbacks this year. It's like Carr, Mahomes, Gough, Bridgewater, Wentz, Herbert, Burrow, Cousins, and Tua. Oh, yeah, wow. That's like all the slow guys. That's crazy. And Brissette, I guess he started half that game. So, I don't know.

I just think I like this one. I also like the over on 13 and a half yards being his longest run, just because of everything I was just saying, like, I think I could see a couple big chunk scrambles in this game after, you know, he drops back or he evades the blitz and takes off and picks up 15 yards. What do you think? My only concern is the blitzing from the Ravens, just sending, like, I love fields. I'm really interested in fields like for the rest of the season as like a sleeper.

This week just confirms me as, it concerns me as like a complicated blitz defense getting at field, but that doesn't mean I'm out on your bet. Like I'm, I'm, I still think actually all the, I'm just curious what you think about fields going against like a crazy complicated. Yeah, I think that's definitely a concern. And it's a concern. Really, any time you talk about rookie quarterbacks, I think Fields has been one of the highest blitz quarterbacks this year.

Teams are just like teeing off on him because he is sort of a, you know, he's number one, he's still learning to process everything. And generally speaking, in college, he was more willing to sit there in the pocket and wait. And he got this reputation as sort of like a, he works a little bit too slow. However, I will say just over the last four games, what I've seen on tape is he's just, much more he's just much more decisive.

If he sees, like, and this is why, like, in my mind, I go to the question, what you're talking about is, like,

if he sees the bliss coming, he might just take off. Yeah. And, like, run the other direction. So, like, I don't know if that's going to happen.

I don't know if that's going to play out. Obviously, there's schematic ways, like, mush rush, keep them in the pocket, things like that, that the Ravens could do

that could, like, you know, turn that idea on its head or whatever, but that's just kind of how I see it. So, and also, like, I don't know. It's just like a good way.

I think with man coverage and back, like the cornerbacks like plastering, getting on a guy, a guy like Fields might see nobody's open and just take off running. I just kind of see him scrambling a lot in this game for those reasons. It's a good point that all the blitzing

might make him run more and for that reason I'm in. When Hyphitz was a little bit apprehensive about the blitzing, I was like, well, I almost feel like these inexperienced quarterbacks, the second they see the blitz. If their first read's not there,

they just talk and, take off. And 34 yards is not a lot of yards to accrue if you're in tuck and run game mode. So for that reason, DK., I'm in as well. We got a group chat. All right. I think part of it, too, is just like the over-under on rushing, which like these rush of times ones are always feel like for quarterbacks are always pretty sharp, like seven

and a half. Like he's going to be scrambling quite a bit in this game, I feel like. You just needs to break one or two. We'll see. All right. I'll throw one of you guys, sharks here today to give you an RPO. Oh, boy. A rare prop option.

God damn it. Want to give you either T. Higgins over five and a half catches or, which is at plus 125 or T. Higgins over 60 receiving yards, which is like minus one 10, not as cool. Either way, these are high numbers. He needs six catches, 61 receiving yards, whatever it is. It's high. However, the Raiders are playing cover three, as everyone talked about this week, when the Chiefs just absolutely diced them because the Raiders refused to play like the kind of defense everyone's been crushing the Chiefs for. But they did that because the Raiders can't really play anything else.

So if they didn't change the Chiefs, they're not playing, changing for the Bengals. And in this kind of cover three, when the Bengals see this kind of stuff, they run zone beaters. T. Higgins is the guy. Like, T. Higgins is the guy for the kind of defense. They're going to see like half the time in this game. And, like, he has these over the middle kind of routes. And that's just who I think has the big week for the Bengals this week. And I feel like six catches.

Maybe that's a lot. That's what you get the plus $125 for. But like Tegan's over 60 yards. I like both this. I think he leads the team in receiving. I think he peppers it. I also think the Bengals just are able to pass a lot in the Raiders. So I think both these hit.

And I'm curious what you guys think, the risk year one of like basically, will you have six catches at like, you know, a dollar to win $1.20? Or do you want what I think is safer with 60, over 60 yards? Yeah. say I like the 60 yards one. Me too. 60.5. I was just looking, he has hit that in,

well, he's missed it three times. So the third, one of them was 60 yards. So he's like right up there. Yeah, exactly. I think, yeah, I just like that. I like that one a little bit more. Plus, he's like he's not necessarily the big play creator in this offense, but he can get deep.

And Burrow is willing to look at him down the sideline or whatever. Like, they have good chemistry in addition to what, uh, what Burrow and Chase do. Yeah, I don't know That one just caught my eye more Craig, didn't you have a T. Higgins prop earlier in the year that you were like debating whether you want to do the yards or the receptions?

Do you remember which one hit? I think that was me and we won. I just, I like the yards as well more than I do the catches. I mean, the Bengals still don't throw that much. Burroughs throwing the ball 40 times once this season. And I do think they want to keep him healthy a bit. Mixing is healthy.

I think they're going to run him a lot against Las Vegas. and I feel more comfortable with T. Higgins' ability to get open down the field than relying on him to catch six balls. So for the 60 and a half yards over, I'm in on that one. Yeah, same here. Yeah, I think I like that one more. The Raiders actually haven't given up that many yards to opposing receivers this year. I don't know if that concerns you or not.

It does not. All right, there we go. So there we go. There's your rare prop option. There you go. You just lead the edge defender unblocked, and then boom, you just, you know. So my prop, which, by the way, I'm in on that,

I like that one. My prop is dovetailing off of that one, high fits. And I'm going to go, I'll give you an RPO too. I'll push it right back at you. Here's one. Tyler Boyd under 4.5 catches or under 41.5 yards. So I'm just going to give you the spiel on the catches. You guys can tell me if you like the yards one more.

Under four and a half catches, he's gone over. So he's had five or more catches just one time in the last five games, and that coincides with T. Higgins coming back into the lineup and being healthy. Basically, this offense flows through Chase and Higgins. Tyler Boyd has been the forgotten man relative to what we're used to. So since Higgins got back into the lineup in week five, Boyd is averaging five targets a game. So five targets a game.

And if you look at his total season splits with Higgins in and out, his splits. So, like, Higgins being in the game, he's averaging 3.7 catches a game. And that's compared to six and a half with Higgins in, with Higgins out of the lineup. And his targets, nine targets a game with Higgins gone, 5.4 with Higgins in. So it's like, I don't know, like, Craig, you were saying they still don't throw it a ton. Like, their pass rate's certainly gone up, but there's still a balanced team. And I think the offense just generally flows through those two guys.

It flows through Higgins. It flows through Boyd. Overall, I'm just not feeling great. about this matchup. Plus, and I saw this from Scott Barrett at Fantasy Points. He makes a great point here.

The Raiders' defense has been very good against slot receivers this season. Right now, their fifth and fantasy points allowed per game to opposing slots. And rookie cornerback, Nate Hobbs,

has been pretty good this year for the Raiders. He's PFS' sixth-highest-graded nickel corner. So I just think the matchup isn't great, and generally speaking, just like the volume doesn't go to him

when Higgins is in the lineup. So to put this in shark tank terms, when I saw this number, right off the bat, I was like, I don't know if I like this. I kind of like Tyler Boyd. I think he's a good player. 41 yards is not a lot.

He's a possession guy, four and a half catches as doable. It's like, you know, when somebody comes in and pitches like a T-shirt company, and you're like, all right, there's been a million of these. But then they start talking about their specs,

and they're like, I have two million in investments money already. I've sold 200,000 shirts in the last month. and everyone's like, wow, like the eyebrows start to get raised. All these stats that you've read me have kind of changed my mind. Like right out the gate, I was kind of like, I don't know. But all this stuff seems pretty promising.

You got, there's some good, good baggage with this bet. High Fitz, how do you feel? I agree. I just don't think that there's a lot to be optimistic about Tyler Boyd. I think the biggest issue is he's coming off his worst game of the season. And like Joe Burrow might just be like, hey, I'm going to like feed you the ball because you got to be part of this offense too. And like Tyler Boy, like in terms of, like, we think of him as third banana.

in like this offense. He's like kind of the leader though, the group. Like he's the oldest one. I think he's like, quote unquote, like the vet of the group. And that's my only fear is I have no numbers to back this up. But it's just like, Burrow isn't going to like, no, really. I'm just saying it's like ball politics is a very real thing, dude. And like, no, it's serious.

Quarterbacks have to deal with it. And my own thing is. Also known as ballatics. Politics. Oh, my God. Yeah, ball politics. No, it's real, though. And so if he has one catch for 11 yards and he's like, you know, that's my only

concerned. But it's not, but I'm still in. Okay. Me too. I'm in as well, D.K. I just, just to reiterate, so with Higgins in the lineup, Boyd is averaging 36 yards a game and 5.4 targets a game. I don't disagree. I just, you know who probably noticed that? Tyler Boyd. Yeah. I thought that's the hard stuff that's like the mental, the psychological stuff, you got to account for. You guys, we have group chatted on every single one of these. Well, you guys yelled at me for dissent. Now you're yelling at me for not dissent. Wait, Craig, you turned it around.

Originally, you're out with the Baham's thing. Well, yeah, before he made the bet I was out before he pitched it. Look at a roller coaster. We start off just yelling at each other and then 20 minutes later. It's like, oh, wow, we can't. We literally haven't disagreed since we started. Okay. All right, D.

D.K. Other side of the game. Yeah, DK. All right. So this one is an over for Hunter Renfro 5.5 catches in that same game against bagels. Bengals? I initially saw this.

against the bangles, sorry. I bet Hunter Renfro doesn't eat bagels. I saw this number. I bet he does. I don't know. He doesn't look,

I mean... I could totally see him just doing exactly whatever is in the TV 12th book. Somebody posted a photo of A.J. Brown and D.K. McAfhe and then Renfro

coming out of college. Renfro looks like he loves a bagel. And D.K. Metcalf looks like he doesn't. Just too many carbs in his diet. So, like, I saw this number, 5.5 catches. I saw I was like, this seems high.

However, he's got, he's had seven catches in each of the last three games. He's gone under this just once in six games. And his targets per route run over the last three games, which coincide generally with, well, I guess Ruggs has missed two games now. Ruggs has been gone for two games.

And his targets per route run is 26% and 26% in those games. So he's getting over a quarter of the targets in these games. He's very frequently the team's target on third downs. Clearly, Derek Carr trusts him, especially in high leverage situations

like those third downs. Redrow, yeah, he's just a target machine. And I think he's going to and also like he converts his targets and it catches very well. So yeah, if you look at the splits from when rugs left, so there's two games without rugs, he's averaging

let's see here. He's averaging seven catches per game compared to 5.4 and then he's averaging nine targets. per game without Rempro. So, I don't know, I just think he gets open. I think that Carr trusts him. What do you think? Oh, by the way, only four teams

have given up more receptions to receivers than the Bengals this year. I just found a hairball below my desk. Is this from the cat you were keeping from us? The people, we didn't say this on the pod. Craig has a cat and, like, didn't tell D.K.R. But it's not my cat. I inherited the cat. What's the hairball status?

I just stepped on it. Oh, God. Are you wearing shoes? No, I'm wearing socks. Oh, man, that sounds absolutely disgusting. Yeah. You should consult the gut doctor. Or maybe your cat should consult the gut doctor.

Maybe he should, honestly. I'm going to sprinkle some prebiotics in his cat food. Okay. So I guess is Hunter Renfro going to have six catches, or is this bet a hairball from D.K.? Here's what I'll say about this line. It's the right line, and it seems to be very close. Hunter Renfro, but looking at his numbers,

is like the most consistent wide receiver in the league. Every game, it seems he has about six catches for 50 yards. Like literally, to a T. So that worries me a bit because it's just so close. I don't feel like I'm gaining an advantage with this bet. It feels like it's just a coin flip. So it's hard for me. I'm leaning.

I'm out, to be honest, because it just feels too tight. Unlike Remper's body. Unlike Repro's ass. seems like the right line. I mean... Too many carbs in this bet. A lot of bagel.

A lot of hole. No, I just... If you watch the Raiders, it just feels like Renfro is one of the few ways that can actually get a first down. But... I understand what you guys are saying about the line being,

like, there's not a ton of value, I guess, in going over, but like, it also feels pretty clear that he's going to wait to go over this. I don't know why. So that's why I went with it. But I got you. I get what you're saying.

Hi Fitz, you're on the fence. What do you think? It doesn't speak. you. I'm sorry you can't for that reason. I'm out. You guys are, you guys are anchoring to the pictures of Remphro. No, no, no, no, no. I'm anchoring to Craig saying that we hadn't disagreed them. We don't, we just reached out every single thing until now. That's fair. That's fair. Okay, moving on. Sharks, I'm coming to you today, seeking a mere $5 on a Naji Harris bet,

the rookie running back on the Pittsburgh Steelers playing the Chargers in Los Angeles over. 79 and a half rushing yards. I'm in. Hell yeah. They're playing the Chargers? They're playing the Chargers? I'm in. So listen, there's a lot up in the air with this game. Ben might play, might not play, coming off COVID.

The defense is super banged up. Claypool is not likely to play. Here's my biggest note on this game. We all know the Chargers give up the most rushing yards to running backs. The Steelers give Najee Harris around 13 carries a game when they lose. And when they win, it's 10 more. 23 carries the game when they win. So this is really a question about,

can the Steelers keep this game close defensively? And the Chargers have not been playing well as of late. Teams seem to have been figuring them out, a la Kansas City, a la the bills in certain cases. So that's really my question here. I think T.J. Watts is going to play. I don't think Minka Fitzpatrick is going to play. There's a couple of other linebackers who are out,

corners who are out like Joe Hayden. But I think this game will be close enough that they will have to feed Najee Harris. regardless of the quarterback, and I think 79 yards is not a whole lot against this Chargers defense that just wants to make you run. That's all they want you to do.

Also, he's done this in four of the last five games, Najee Harris. It's an intriguing line because the Chargers have a terrible run defense, and obviously, Najaris is going to get, like, all of their rushing. My only concern here is, I think we actually... I guess I got lost to where you were like,

well, the defense has to keep it close. We kind of breeze through the Steelers' injuries. They're down. Maybe Ben. we'll see if he plays. Chase Claypool is probably heard. We're talking about their best three defenders. T.J. Watt, if he plays, I mean, he's not 100%. Cam Hayward, who might even be better than T.J. Watt, to be honest, and like, we don't know if he's going to play. Minka Fitzpatrick's on the COVID list.

And then Joe Hayden, who isn't even in that top three group, but he's the number one quarterback. All these guys are either out or like not 100%. And we haven't even mentioned both of their starting guards. I don't believe practice today. Today's Thursday. So I don't even know if they're going to play. So that's tough for me to be like, oh, like the Steelers have this inherent advantage in the running game because the chargers are bad

in the run. I don't know. Like, we'll see what the deal was the starting guards, but like to me it's a volume thing, but like I don't know. Do you guys think that should, like, the only reason I could see the Steelers keep you close is just Mike Tomlin's a good coach, I guess. I think all those points that you just gave, though, I think that is baked

into this line. I think that's why it feels like this is a little low, because I think all of that is baked in already. The Chargers have given up 100 yards in every single game, except for one. And they've given up, like, significantly more than 100 yards. Like 176, 142, 187, 287, 2030, 186, 198. Like, they're not, it's not just like an advantage. They're asking you to run.

They want you to run. He's hit this total against Denver, Seattle, Cleveland, Detroit in the last four, the last five weeks. I think they're going to have to lean on them because I don't know what else they really have. you know what you're right Craig because I think that I this is like I say this at my own

this feels crazy to say but there is a point where you have to ignore like the crazy amount of injuries and just be like this is a team who's philosophically is like please run the ball and the Steelers especially if Mason Rudolph either plays or Ben has to play after not really practicing they're going to want to run

the ball and like he's not going to come off the field and that alone will get the 80 yards even if it takes them 30 carries to it. So for that reason, I'm in. I like how Naji Harris didn't know that you could tie in the NFL for that reason. That's a thing, though. Like, Donovan McNabb didn't know that 20 years ago everyone gave him shit, which was,

that's a whole other conversation. But, like, this happens like every tie. There's a player on the team who didn't know. I thought we were just going to keep going. But you guys don't agree. Like, I feel like this happens every, at least every other year. There's a player who, like, their tie. And like, yeah, I didn't know that.

And it's like, oh, did you not know? But it happens all the time. Yeah. All the time, huh? Okay, I'm in. Wait, Craig, or Dika, did you say if you're in? Yeah, I'm in. All right.

I'm in because of the matchup, not because of anything to get with the Steelers. All right, sharks. Hell yeah. While we're in on that Alabama running back rookie, I come to you on to discuss an Alabama rookie receiver. Devante Smith, I'm going to give you another RPO since this is how, you know, the Eagles do everything. Another rare prop option.

Devante Smith over four and a half catches or Devante Smith over 50, receiving yards. These just feel low. Like borderline wrong to the point that I almost, like it just feels like I'm missing something. And if I am, please tell me. But Devonty Smith has hit both of these numbers, pretty healthily, over in three of the last four weeks.

Now they're playing the Saints who have the best run in the NFL, but just about any normal or advanced match you want to look at, to the point that I believe the Saints are allowing, I want to say, let me look this up. I think it's 2.9 yards per carry this season, which is like not only the best in the NFL, it's like the best through 10 weeks

that ESPN has in their database for yards per attempt at this point in the season. Like they are literally the stingiest run D in like 20 years through 10 weeks. So then you look at Devante Smith and you're like, how is he not going to catch more 56 receiving yards worth of balls.

Well, the only thing that I'm worried about is he's going to get matched up with Marshawn Lattimore. Right. I'm glad you said that. Marshall and Lattimore is no longer somewhat of fear, at least this season. Like, Marshall and Lattimore, first of all, he did not really contain Mike Evans the way he usually does. Mike Evans caught a long touchdown.

Honestly, should have had to. You also had, he got kind of beat by, Marshall Lattimore got beat by D.K. Metcalfe, but also, like, he's just kind of mental lapses. Like, he got really up for this Devante Adams in week one. But then since the, like, Alameday Zakaas beat Marshawn Latimore, who's that guy in the Chiefs? Cyril Gray, Cyrus, like some, like the Chiefs like sixth or seventh receiver beat Marshall and Latimore.

Like, Latimore, if you just forget the name, has really not been an avoid. He's actually, if you just forget the name for a second, Marshall and Ladabor has actually been someone you target this season. So I'm not worried about that at all. I was reading Evan Silva's matchups for the week, and he referred to Marshawn Latimore is as the white hot Marshawn Latimore. this week. And I was like, oh, is this subjective? Well, I was looking at the PFF, they have a matchups column or whatever, and they noted that

Latimore's done a pretty good job, slowing down the four guys, he's gone one-on-one with this season, Devonty Adams, Terry McLaurin, D.K. Metcalfe and Mike Evans. Metcalfe actually had a pretty big game, but that came on. I think he got one big catch and took it to the house, and then the rest of the time, he was like pretty quiet. So, I don't know, it just kind of depends. I think there is, I think just there is some name value there. Like, that's not quite matching up with the performance. But at the same time, I guess I would just say, are there two different, more different receivers in the NFL than Mike Evans, D.K. Matt Kaffin on the spectrum and Devonty Smith. Like, do they have one thing in common?

You're right. I, I'm more like that, just that the Eagles have been such a run heavy team the last three weeks. And this is exactly what the Saints are built to stop. And that Philly's going to have to throw the ball more. And if Devante was putting up those numbers while Hertz is throwing it 17, 18, 19 times a game. I feel pretty good even if Latimore's there that he can hit these numbers with Hertz throwing 30 times a game. Also, Dallas Goddard has a concussion, and I mean, we don't even know if Dallas Goddard's going to play.

He practiced today. Did he? That's good. He's getting closer to being cleared, I think, yeah. On one hand, I do like it because Smith is the clear number one. He's had like a 30% target share in the last few games. He's getting like 50% of their air yards. So I do like it from that point of view.

but also just I'm a little bit reticent about this. I think it's not speaking to me, as Haifitz would say, just because of that specific shadow matchup. And I just, I don't know, the Saints defense is strong. Yeah, I'm out. Sorry, we're going to let D.K. live in fear. If D.K. wants to live in fear of Marshall and Latimore. It's all right.

You know what? Everyone's entitled their choices. I think I've been in on more of these bets the whole year than anyone else. So let's be honest here. I have one question for you. Are you going to live in fear? Shark? Salesman Haifitz over here.

Great pitch, but before you said that, I was already in. Sick, sick, cool, cool, cool. So I'm in. Okay. I think the difference between me and Haifitz is like, you guys are not in. Eh, that's fine. I'll do it. That's cool.

I don't need you fuckers. Sharks. A.J. Dylan. We all know and love him. I know that guy. Just as we all know and love Aaron Jones. Unfortunately, he's out with a mild MCL spraying. He's going to miss a couple weeks.

in his absence, I love AJ Dillon to just go nuts and be a top five running back. The line on his rushing yards is 79.5. This is again, much like Najee Harris, 79 and a half is a 1999-style advertisement, right? If it was 80, I'd feel a lot differently. But the window dressing of 79.5 is very appealing. What if I told you it's already gotten up to 80? Does that change you? Because it has. Does that change your... On every single book? What book do you look at? actually. Oh yeah, every book?

Okay. I just checked all of them the same time simultaneously. Impressive. You have an intern, I see. I'm still, my secret book that I use, I bet it's still 79.

5. Let's operate as if it's 79. 5. There's obviously no Aaron Jones. Minnesota has been a weak team against the run this year. He's already hit this number twice with Aaron Jones.

The Packers like to keep it balanced. Aaron Roger has a toe injury. He was given 21 carries after Aaron Jones left. I don't think the backups for anything to worry about too much. I think 79 and a half is kind of easy, to be honest. The Packers have a good advantage over the Vikings in terms of like their offensive line versus

defensive line too in this game. The Vikings are banged up. I like this one a lot. I love A.J. Dillon. I can't wait. Like, I definitely wasn't rooting for an Aaron Jones injury, but I was rooting to see more of A.J. Dylan. And so this is going to be fun to see like what he can do with the full workload.

Yeah, more than anything. I just think A.J. Jones, like, pretty good. Like, he just passes the I test. He's really good. I don't know if the Packers are like, oh, maybe we. we shouldn't have given Aaron Jones $45 million. But AJ Dillon's really good. Yeah, the whole, yeah, we don't need to get into that now.

But like the whole series of events for the Packers with the running back situation is just kind of bizarre. But maybe they just want a two really good backs. Because one, it just feels too easy. Mm. To be honest, like, you know what I mean? It's just like, oh, hell of 80 yards. Like you're walking into a trap. Yeah, it does.

Don't overthink it. Don't overthink it, Hyve. Well, I say no when it feels so good to say yes. Yeah. So the other one is just, I mean, I also, because I guess here's my thing. thing. The over, like, Dalvin Cook is his over under is 82. And then if you look at rush combined yards, so rushing and receiving, so scrimmage yards, A. G. Dillan's 11, Dalvin Cook's 10. So, like, do I think A.J. Dillon's going to have a good game? Yeah. It's going to play, like, a lot of

snaps. Yeah. Like, not a common, everyone in fantasy should play AJ Dillon this week. He's probably going to be a top 10 back, but he can be a top 10 back without hitting this number. And my point being, the line for AJ Dillon Yards is higher than Dalvin Cook's I thought you said Dalvin Cooks was 80 I thought I thought he said Dalvin Cooks was 80 The rushing is higher by two But I think it's interesting that like the scrimmage yards He's actually even higher

To which my I guess I'm wondering Cook hasn't been really used in the passing game Very much lately I guess I'm just one I don't dislike this I'm wondering if the line is high enough That it's accounted for this scenario Can I add in that the Vikings are a top five defense?

defense against running backs catching passes. Does that spice things up for you? Top five bad or good? They are one of the five best teams at preventing running backs from accruing yards. That makes more sense. Does that tickle your fancy there? Mr. Heifitz? Look at that line. 79.5. A.J. Dillon? He's going to be like

a top five back in fantasy. If it was 80.5, I'd be out. But since it's 79 and half, I'm in. he's going to have exactly 80 yards. You heard it here first. I mean, he's going for 130. I know. Let's do it.

It feels like one of those. Hell yeah. All right, what do we got? One more, DK. Yeah, one more. Just want to tack it in here. Talked about him on our show on Wednesday, the Bilo show or whatever, not Bilo, but trade target show.

Brandon Cooks. Cooks. Going over five and a half receptions against the Titans. Number one, the Titans have given up more catches to opposing ride receivers than any other team in the NFL. Number two, Cooks has the fourth highest target rate of any receiver in the NFL. He is going to get a lot of targets and a lot of catches in this game.

And number three, the Cooks, Cooks has splits with Tyra Taylor as the quarterback. Tyra Taylor is going to be the starting quarterback this week are pretty dramatic. With Cooks, or sorry, with Taylor under center, Cooks is averaging 6.7 catches per game, and he's averaging 12 targets per game. 12 targets per game with Tyra Taylor under center. So I think he's going to get a ton of targets.

I think 5.5 is a good number because it builds in even some of the inefficiencies in this passing attack. I still think they're just going to pepper him with looks and he's going to come away with like 6, 7, 8 catches in this game. Thoughts. So my thoughts are, what's the yardage total? Because his splits with Davis, Mills, and Tyro Taylor in terms of catches are relatively similar. But the yardage is what's really different. He averages 25 more yards a game with Tyrod. The yardage figure is 68.

So you have to go over. So 69, which is nice. Hell yeah, 69. Do an RPO. Which one do you like more? 68.5 yards. I just think he's going to have a lot of production is kind of the deal. I just never want to bank on the efficiency of him catching a lot.

Like Tyrod Taylor throwing him a lot of catchable balls, but I almost like the idea more of like he has two 30 yard catches and he hits the number kind of thing. 68 is, I was kind of hoping that was going to be like, 58 or 61. 68 and a half is a bit high. Okay. I mean, think about it. That's three yards away from C.D. Lamb, you know?

Oh, boy. Hyphitz, where are you at? Let's, let's continue. I'm just thinking about the Titans defensive line malling, the Titans offensive line. Sorry, the Titans defensive line mulling, the Texans offensive line. And they just, like, can't get anything going,

and it's a nightmare game. Yeah, I'm trying to picture what actually happens on all these plays. He's trying to that's so raving it. I, I'll RPO it. No, I'm going to stick a Dekin this one. I'm going to go over five and a half because the juice is better and I think it happens.

I think he's right about the targets. It's like he can have 12 targets in this game. So like I'm going to roll with DK and take the juice do it over five and a half cash. The reason I think that even though it's kind of crazy, but I'll do it. I like the receptions one just a little bit more too is because if they're getting a lot of pressure

and quickly, like they might try and design stuff to get it to them quickly. It might not rack up a ton of yards but you might have a lot of catches. Right. Okay. All right, D.K. You convince me. I'm in.

All right. Spada Bing. All right. Long shot time. I'm a three guys a long shot right now. Well, I'm going to cheat. I'm going to give you a long shot and a moot shot right now. Okay.

Brought to you by the film Long Shot with Seth Rogen and Charlie Steron. Was that? Was that the, I didn't even get what that movie was supposed to be about. It's like, oh, he's ugly and she's cool. And he's like a publicist, whatever. It's like every Seth Rogen movie, but it seemed weird. I think he's like a journalist.

Isn't she running for president? Yeah, she's like a politician, big-time woman, and he's like a cool, you know, hipster journalist, I think. Like a blogger. Like a cool blogger. Yeah, he's like a free-spirited journalist. And she's like, you know, politician type. I never saw it.

Did you like the movie? I never saw it. Oh, my God damn it, crap. You saw it, okay? Yeah. I heard it was all right. It was fine. I don't, I don't, I can't say,

remember anything about it. That says everything I need to know. It was not bad because I probably would remember it being bad, but it was entertaining and then I moved on with my life. Let me tell you about a very unforgettable bet that will win you a lot of money or immediately forgettable. You guys tell me. So there's four games I'm interested in.

Basically, the point of Paloza, just grab points, points, points, points, points, Texans plus 10 because I just feel like the Titans are the last team in the AFC. And now that everyone's agreed, the Titans are good and the best team in the league. I put a number one of my power rankings and then immediately that means they will lose. Everyone has moved the Titans to the top of the power rankings. That means they're going to fall. So Texas plus 10.

Yes. Lions plus 11, right? You fall because they're playing the Browns. The Browns are sketchy. Cool. Lions plus 11. Cowboys plus two and a half for what I said before about the Chiefs being 0.9 against the spread at home and Cowboys being four and oh in the road.

And also just I think the Cowboys are better, honestly. Giants plus 11 against the bucks. So if all those happen, Texans, Lions, Cowboys, Giants cover, it's 11 to 1. However, if all those teams win outright, 260 to 1, so a dollar win $260. Or more importantly, $10 wins you $2,600, which gets you a really nice laptop. That MacBook commercial, you knew that MacBook commercial, that's like, I feel like I'm at like an EDM concert where they're like, and it's just like all these images that are like subliminally changing your thoughts.

You know what I mean? Yeah. You could buy that with this bet. You could buy that commercial. You could buy a commercial spot with that bet. Yeah. I mean, I feel like you've been really on the... Both of you have been on the underdog parlay long shots lately.

You guys like those. They're kind of fun. I'm still not really over when I... I have not gotten over that... What was it, week eight when I was like, I think that these three teams that are the worst teams in football will all win for 60, like 600 to 1 odds. And then the following week

that bet would have won. Not really over that personally. Yeah, that's a tough one to swallow. All right, my long shot, it's not really a long shot. It's more of a coin flip, but I'm liking these bets. I hit it last week. It was the team to score a TD first. I got Philly plus 160 to score a TD first last week.

Minnesota playing Green Bay. I like Minnesota to score the first TD. I just like looking at these inefficiencies and how these teams play in the first quarter. is a top 10 team in the first quarter. Green Bay is a bottom 10 team in the first quarter. So I like Minnesota minus 110 to score TD first. Because Green Bay is like minus 160.

And I'm like, why is that the case? What did we call? Oh, these are Salvia, like the first, well, I guess that's like the first score bet. Yeah, but this is a Salvia. Yeah. First touchdown of the game. First touchdown. I like it.

I'm going with a backup quarterback cover bowl parlay, whatever you want to call it. is bowl season. All right. So we got, hold on, let me pull this up. We've got the Jets covering against Miami. You want Joe Flacco to cover. Wait, I just want to declare it. You have Joe Flacco covering. Joe Flacco. What's he covering? Joe Jumper Cable. Flacko. He's covering his mouth with his mask. Why is he unvaccinated? Dude, he's a, he's an energy vampire. It's, sarcastic. He's like, he like, he like brings, he sucks the energy out of a room every time he comes in. He just like, oh, God.

He kind of looks like a vampire. Joe Flacco. Yeah. Anyways, I still think he's an okay quarterback, so I'm going to give him the cover against the dolphins. It's going to be a close one. That's, I find that stunning, to be honest.

Letdown game. Miami just beat Baltimore? Okay, all right, I'll take it. All right, okay, okay. And then I got the Lions with Tim Boyle under center. D.K., what are we doing? Covering against the brand. It's for fun, dude.

It's a long shot. I don't actually think it's going to work. Fair, fair, fair, fair. The Lions, sorry, the Browns are favored by 11.5. That's too much, right. I don't understand why the Lion is that much. Like, Baker Bayfield has not been playing that well.

The Lions just tied the freaking Steelers. Well, with Mason Rudolph, but yeah. Well, that's true. But Baker Mayfield's arm barely works at this point. Anyway, and then we got the Panthers with Cam Newton, their third choice this year. who I actually think is probably their best option at this point by far, covering,

they're favored by three and a half, but covering against Washington. You know that's seen in the beginning of the Da Vinci Code when the guy is just like whipping himself on the back as for sin? I think this is DK right now, being like, I'm going to room for Tim Boyle and Joe Flacco on Sunday. Yeah.

How is Joe Flacco not 41 years old? He's only 36. He seems 50. I can't believe he's a. I can't believe these are like 36. That's young. Yeah. I thought about throwing in a...

There's another quarterback. If Streveller starts, then we could add on the Cardinals covering against the Seahawks. Why do you want all these guys to cover out of curiosity? And you put it all together

because it's funny. I don't know. Who gives a shit? It's fun. What is it? What does it yield? That's 12 to 1 right there. With all those.

With all those covers? Yeah. Okay. I will say dogs have been awesome this year. Sorry, it's 13 to 1. So you win, a $10 bet pays you out $140, $139. All right. I am now just more interested in the Joe Flacco with this old D.K.

You're aware that if the Jets, if you think Flacco plays well, what if I told you the Jets get giving two points would just pay you almost two to one? And you just bet on Joe Flacco to win the game. I mean, that's just not as fun, though. But sure. If you're looking for a good value. You can just bet the lions to beat the Browns, it's plus 400. Yeah, that's, that's...

None of these parlayes make any fucking sense. Like, you're worsening your odds. The more things you add to it. It's just fun, though. It's funny, is the point. No one else... No, please, no one actually tail this. It's funny.

Funny hat. It just gives me something. It just gives me chaos to root for. Yeah. All right. Okay. Quick recap of last week. Well, speaking of funny.

D.K. went a little just a bit outside. A little O for three. I went two for four. I can sleep with it because Dallas Goddard was supposed to go over 44 yards. He had 28 in the first quarter and then left with a concussion. So I can sleep at night with losing that one. And then Craig went two for three. A little six, six, six for the devil boy Craig.

Good work. And then, okay. So we are still above 500 for the year. Don't worry about by how much. Yeah, we're above it. We're technically winners. Our lips are barely above water sucking down there. Yeah, yeah.

We're shredding water technically. All right, ringer listener league. You can, I mean, honestly, just Google Ringer Listener League on Fandall. Or just link in the description. Link in the description. You can click it right there. Use our Chrome Code.

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Okay. I'm not even kidding. We have a lookbook on different options for this trophy. It's going to be fucking great. On that note, do you guys have a DFS, just one or two players

you want to just toss out as the guys you like this week? Yes. Dan Arnold, 5,400. I also have Dan Ardellon in my lineup, D.K. I also have Dan Ardellardle, which makes me want to... Well, it's hard because you want certain obvious guys that are values,

and then you also need to differentiate yourself just enough to not be, you know, with the herd. I went Stars and Scrubs this week. I figured out a way to get McCaffrey in there. I got A.J. Dillon in there. I got Mahomes in there. I do, too. But here's what's tough.

I also have McCaffrey and Dylan. So take with that what you may. One guy I kind of like is Gallup. I like getting the cheapest wide receiver on Dallas. Gallup is really good. And I think people maybe aren't really thinking of him that way because he's been out for so long. But there were many weeks when the Cowboys are healthy in the past where Gallup just puts up the same stat lines that CD and Amari Cooper does. And he is incredibly cheap.

$5,400. I'm going to give. So since we just give, all right, there's a bunch of like more obvious people. Like McCaffrey, AJ Dylan, you know, we're not reinventing the wheel. I'm going to throw out someone that like the person who's not on a lot of teams that if they do well, that's how you shoot up the whole rankings is Khalif Raymond for the Lions. Whoa. Sleeper. The classic Tim Boyle

to Khalif Raymond's connection. He's just open a lot. If you watch the Lions, like Clef Raymond just is almost catching a 40-yard touchdown like surprisingly often. Yeah, and that's why the lions are going to cover. There you go.

So Tim Boyle hits Kleefe Raymond, which Jared Gough has been unable to do and Kleefe Raymond's in your lineup, that will vault you to the top of sit standings. And if Kleefe Raymond does nothing, then I convinced all of you to do it while I vault to the stop of the standings and I still win. So for me, it's a win-win.

So are you pitching Kalif Raymond, but you're not going to you're not going to put him in the lineup? No, I am playing him, but now I'm realizing that if I give him away on this episode, I probably have to do something else. But I actually do think that Cliff Raymond's a really good play this week. I actually do. Like in a tournament league like we do, where you have to beat like

thousands of people and you actually need to differentiate yourself, I actually do think he's on that list. But you're not going to play him. I am, no, I am going to play him. Okay. It's like weird. It's like collusion. and like somehow on your own. No, I will play him. I'm strangely, I just, I don't know.

He's, neither you, he's just open a lot. That's all right. We don't have totally for him in anymore. He's fast. He's very fast. All right. Also, we're doing bad quarterback league on Fandle 2, ringer.com slash bad QB or just go to NFL,

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unless you, you know, we lose, in which case, we know how we did it. It's okay. All right. I think that's it. Godspeed for everyone in your lineups. Play AJ Dylan. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, D.K. Thank you. D.K. Thank you. Be first in the Gimmie. Gimmies. Also, thank you to everyone who emailed us about the Australia's slang. We really appreciate it. Yes, and again, I'm sorry for misidentified bingo. Do you want to do one more chance at Bluestone, D.K.? I meant Bandit the whole time. What?

You want to do one more chance at Bluestone? No, not at all. What was the band? Blue Stone. Oh, wow. Jesus Christ. that's why I wouldn't do it on the other one. I can't do it, man. Yeah. You can do your peekie blinders hyphids if it makes you feel better. No, I can't.

No, I actually think I will have, I'm like two notches from friends no longer hanging out with me if I continue to do my peak peaky blinders accent. What was the band, Craig? It's me first in the gimmie gimmies. Okay. It's a punk band from I'd probably like the 90s, late 90s, early 90s, early 90s, mid-90s. They do all covers. It's great. I actually think you'd like it a lot. It's like Beach Boys, like old classics. Nice. Yeah, it's really good. You should listen to it. All righty. There you go. See you later.