The Ringer NFL Show - 'Shark Tank' Prop Bets - Week 2

Episode Date: September 17, 2021

We pitch one another on our favorite prop bets for the weekend’s games in the style of 'Shark Tank.' Later, we check in on our season-long prop bets scoreboard and give our Bad QB League picks for Week 2. Prop Bets (2:14) Bad QB League (43:03) Sign up and compete against us in the Bad QB League on FanDuel here.  Email us at [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The press box is here to catch you up on the latest media stories. Hosted by Brian Curtis and David Shoemaker, these guys have the insight on the biggest stories you care about. Check out the press box on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Your fantasy football show, my name is Danny Hefebis. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck. Every Friday, we go through, one, the bad quarterback league, which you can join on Fandle at fandle.com slash bad QB

or go to game styles under bad QB, where the goal is to find bad quarterbacks. But before we get into that, we're going to give out some prop bets for this week's games and we're going to have some fun. We're going to do this Shark Tank style. Love this. Shark Tank was the show that in high school

when my like Econ teacher was out, like the sub would just play Shark Tank. Wait, what? This is the real world, guys. Yeah, it would happen. We would just be like, oh, hell yeah, Mr. Whatever's name was, is out today. We got Shark Tank for an hour.

You know there's like a common sub when you just call him by his first name. ours, we just called them Perry, but I know exactly what you're talking about. You know what I mean? Yeah, classic sub-show. Well, we realized that, like, ultimately, a bet is just you're pitching your friends on it. And we're like, we're just going to do this. So we want, first of all, we have to be transparent about something. We wanted to call this Sharp Tank.

Yes. But Warren Sharp works here with us, and we thought that would be, like, kind of stepping on, like, his name. Right. So we're going to stick to Sharp Tank. It's an incredible pun. And we wish that we could have just done Sharp Tank. But we're going to go with Shark Tank. Yeah.

With that said, who would like to lead us off? We're going with, this is Mr. Daniel Kelly, football expert who works for the ringer. He'll be presenting us with our first prop bet of the day. I wish we had like a little background package of D.K.'s life as he walks down the hallway. Yeah, I know. Are you guys going to do like the little vignettes of like my life and like how my, you know, the background story for me getting to this bet? Maybe that, maybe this background story is I went all in on David Montgomery last year, ended up being very, very, right about that. Well,

the thing, millennials like brands with a story, millennials like bets with a story. It's like, you have to,

like, what is your mission? Okay. Good afternoon, sharks. I am seeking a $5 bet with minus $1.15 odds,

David Montgomery over 64 and a half rushing yards this weekend against the Bengals. Here's the deal. Montgomery, I'll just call him Monty.

He took it over on this, on this number, seven straight games going back to last year. He is turned into like their three-down bell cow guy. Well, maybe not quite three-down, but he's definitely utilized a ton in their offense. He's a focal point of their offense.

Last week, 16 carries, 108 yards, and a touchdown. Going back further, 23 carries, 23 carries, 32 carries, 11 carries, 17 carries, 11 carries. Most importantly, he looked really good last weekend. You know the meme about how he has the footwork, or he has like the agility of Saquan Barclay,

the footwork of Levion Bell or whatever. There's just a famous meme. and people like to always bring that up every time he gets tackled. I think it's actually coming true. Wow. He might be that good, you guys. But bottom line, Chicago,

they're going to continue to feature him in this offense. Andy Dalton is bad. They want the run game to be sort of like the foundation in which they do everything. I think Montgomery's looked really, really quick, really fast,

explosive. He ripped off a couple of big runs last weekend. And I think going up against Cincinnati, they're going to try and dictate, they're going to try and control the clock and I think they have a good enough defense to kind of like keep the Bengals' offense in check. So I can see David Montgomery

having a big weekend this day. And so 64 and a half rushing yards, that seems really low to me. I'm, you know, I don't know if I'm the Mr. Wonderful or I think Craig's probably more than Mark Cuban

and I'm probably just more of the Debbie Downer here. I like what you say there, Danny, with the seven straight games hitting that over. My question is the Bears left tackle situation. Tevin Jenkins out. They're like third, fourth string tackle situation. what about the offensive line, which was not the case

for the five games you're citing from last year? So, yeah, obviously, I was more referencing, honestly, not the offensive line, the success of this offense, more just the volume. I think the volume is the thing you really got to focus on here. They're letting him carry the ball a ton.

Damien Williams is a part of this offense, but he's not a huge, huge part of it. It's still the David Montgomery show. And again, regardless of the offensive line struggles what's going on the left side, Montgomery, to me, looked really good last weekend. ripped off a couple long runs, I think going straight up the middle, going up the right. So I still think there's plenty of opportunities, even if this offensive line has a few issues.

And, you know, I don't know if, I just don't think Cincinnati's like defense is scaring anybody right now. Yeah, I like that. I do. I don't mind that. And, you know, Montgomery had 100 yards against the Rams last week in a game where they were getting killed pretty much the whole time. And they're going up against a Bengals team, who isn't as good offensively as the Rams. It doesn't have as good of a defensive front as the Rams. So for all those reasons, Danny Kelly, I'm in.

Yes. Wait, now do I get to play you guys off of each other? Now I'm trying to like get Danny. I try to get more equity from Danny. You get more equity, yeah. You know, I don't think I quite have Craig's enthusiasm. My concern is, look, David Montgomery looks good. I have no doubt about that.

My concern is that, man, I just can't bet on the Bears to be winning by a game so much. Yeah. that they have to be running the ball enough to get to even like that number enough carries. They were losing the whole game. They ran him 16 times. And he left the game with an injury briefly. I like the business. I like the bet.

I encourage you. I hope you guys make a lot of money, but I'm out. Okay. Well, I got one investor. So I'm really looking forward to going to work with you, Craig. I think we have a lot of really good synergy. You were the guy I was hoping to land in this one, honestly. I want 90% equity.

So we'll talk. Okay. All right, Craig. You go next. Gentlemen, I am seeking a $5 bet on minus $1.15 odds for Ezekiel Elliott, running back for the Dallas Cowboys, to rush for over 59.5 yards this week against the Los Angeles Chargers. I like a big bounceback week for Zeke this week. Everyone's off his scent because of what he did against the bucks, like 11 rushes, 33 yards. Didn't look great.

The man was asked to be an alignment, and he did a great job in that. saving Dak Prescott's life on timeless occasions. The charges let up over 100 yards to Washington running backs last week. Antonio Gibson had 23 rushes for 90 yards, sprinkled in a couple other guys. They got over 100. Staley's defense, coach of the charges, focuses on the pass more than he does the run. I like the Cowboys getting a little more balanced this week. Yes, the Cowboys lose Lael Collins, but they get back sack Martin.

I just like a lot more balanced offense for Dallas. And Ezekiel Elliott is Vegas seems to be afraid. They were affected by that Bucks game, and I think they overreacted. 59 and a half is incredibly low for a guy who has multiple rushing titles on his resume. I like this. I love the enthusiasm. I'm still trying to figure out, you know, I'm a big proponent of the idea that last week was an anomaly. We can't really pay attention to it too much.

You know, they were trying to pass the ball against a very, very good run defense in the Buccaneers, and I think that made a lot of sense. And I think, generally speaking, that the Cowboys are a very logical offense. They're going to lean on their strengths. They're going to lean on what's working. And I do think, you know, you mentioned the staley defense. I think it's like famous for going too high primarily. You know, that's more or less daring other teams to run the ball.

So I'm in. For those reasons, I'm in on this one. I like it. And I was also just kind of wishful thinking. I've been wanting to get in on Zeke for a while now. And last week it just wasn't a good opportunity, but I feel like it's a It's a good opportunity now. Welcome aboard.

I guess my question is, why go Zeeke over 60 rushing yards when if you believe in everything we've got here, but we know that this is going to be a shootout. What about Zieg over two and a half catches? I think Tony Pollard is probably what scares you a little bit there. You don't exactly know who's going to be the guy getting the catches.

I'm confident that Zeek's going to get the carries. I'm not confident that Zeek's going to dominate the passing game. I guess I'm concerned. that this is going to be a shootout. Like, we like Herbert. Herbert just dominated the Cowboys. I feel like the Cowboys are going to be able to throw a lot more on the Chargers than Washington just did.

The Chargers certainly moved on Washington. They're going to move on the Cowboys. My only concern is just that this is just an absolute, like, title fight. Although I get what you're saying about the Brandon Stiley Chargers defense, giving up runs more than passing. But I'm also just kind of concerned. In a shootout, high fits, let me ask you this. Wouldn't a shootout be good in this situation because you get more plays,

more points, more gold line situation, not that touch. matter in this bet particularly, but I think just overall, you're talking about more offense. Isn't that a good thing? Well, go back to last year when DAC was healthy and they had that big shootout against Atlanta, the game was 40 to 39. Dak had 22 rushes for 89 yards that game. Zeke did. Sorry, Zeke did.

Yeah. High Fitz is really thinking about this. Yeah. I'm already Debbie Downer. I'm going to let you to enjoy this one and I'm out. Were you worried at all, Craig, last week about how Zeke looked, like just like the eye test? No, I feel like

everybody overreacted with that. I thought he looked pretty good. Everyone freaked out about that one play where Blake Jarwin blew a block and like the corner just immediately went and tackled Zique, like sorry. I guess here's the thing. Like, Lel Collins, the right tackles out, right?

Like he's been suspended. So I guess my question for Craig is if the charges of Joey Bosa and they had to keep Zika into block, why does that, like, I guess I'm a little concerned I'm just concerned. That's all. But if they're keeping Zika into block, why do you like him on the over-ed receptions?

I'm just throwing things out. Just poking holes in your balance sheet. All right. It's just being a shark. Sure. All right. Hifitz. Hello.

I am, my name is Danny Heifitz. I am here asking for, I'm seeking $5 in exchange for 50% equity of my $10 bet on Jarvis Landry's over under this week. Basically, I'm going to put five bucks on. I'm hoping. So you're looking for us to stake you on this. Come in with me on the bet. I just want someone to text about this $5. Landry with this Sunday.

That's all I'm asking. You're just on a text buddy. Yeah, I just want to text one of you guys about this bet. That's all. I kind of like this. Okay. That's very sweet. Yeah.

Yeah, that's it's it's it. Okay. I want a text buddy. That's what I'm going to wager. No money, just a text buddy. So like, so the over under for Jarvis Landry is 70 yards this week. Here is my theory on what happened.

Now, Odell Beckham is out for this game. Already been declared out. He's been declared out. what I believe happened here is that they're basically the books are basically saying most people read these headlines Odell's out and be like wow

Jarvis Landry's gonna have a blowup game so that they would bet the Jarvis over and so they have to move the line artificially high here's why I think that Jarvis Landry had 71 yards last week against the Chiefs it was a fraudulent 70 exactly just interrupt him

I love it so I am Mark Cuban The Mr. Wonderful. You put down your pen and like disgust. So like here's the thing. If Jarvis Landry couldn't get more than 71 yards against the Chiefs when Odell was out and the Chiefs were pushing them for the entire game and the Browns presumably are going to take a first quarter lead and bleed the clock for the entire second half, how is Jarvis Landry

going to get over 70 yards against the Texans? I feel like this line is just kind of like I guess in it, if I could put it to you another way. Jarvis line is basically the same amount he had last week. But Baker Mayfield's passing yardage over under is 60 yards lower than it was last week. How does that make sense? Well, also, 35 of Jarvis' 70 yards came at some halftime dump off

where Jarvis ran down the field and racked up a bunch of fake yards. So, like, you didn't even really have 71 yards last week. I genuinely think that, like, the Odell being out for this game has juiced the line artificially up and that there's just a lot of value in this under, even though on, and also because on paper they're playing a bad team,

but that translates way more to running than receiving. You're essentially betting that nobody will have over 70 yards for the Browns because if anyone's going to do it, it is Jarvis, so you're essentially saying you like the under on every Browns rod receiver. Yeah, so the other one here I was thinking about

is also just Austin Hooper is an interesting one, who's a tight end for the Browns. It's like 30, but the Browns have a three-got-man timeshare at tight-out, and Joku and Jok-N-Sysm and Harrison Bryant and they're going to run anyway. And it's like, why is Austin-Upring to get more than 30 yards in this game? I think all the unders will work. Let's think Baker Mayfield won't have touchdowns. But I just don't envision the yardage there for Cleveland. So this isn't like 100% predictive necessarily. But I'm looking

at Jarvis Landry's 2020 season. He hit over 70, what is it? 71. He hit over 71. Twice? Twice. Twice. In 15 games. Yeah. That's kind of what I'm saying. And only once after Odell was out. so it's not like it changed. Yeah. He might get a touchdown in this game. I'm not saying Benjamin Fantasy, but the yardage, I don't see it.

Yeah. So my big picture point of view here, and I agree with you, Hyphitz, I think, if anything, they're going to spread the ball out. You've got Anthony Schwartz coming in,

and he looked pretty good in his first game. They've got Kareem Hunt, who's a good pass catcher. They've got Donovan People's Jones, who ran a bunch of routes last week, didn't get a bunch of targets, but he could actually make an effect in this game. And so there's just so many guys,

David and Joku, Austin Hooper. You know, and for all those reasons, I think they're going to spread it out. I think they're going to get, like, a bunch of guys are going to have like 40 to 50 yards receiving. And for those reasons, I am in. Wow, I got a texting buddy. Craig, you want to make it a group chat? I originally thought that your argument here was for the over and I was going to be out. But since you wisely chose the under, I am also in.

We have not only you have a text buddy, you have a group chat. You have a group chat. So we're going to have to sidebar on how the equity works out here. Yeah, I, yeah, we'll figure that. So Craig and I both get 50% Hyphids is just in it for fun. When you get a, when you get both people to buy in on your picture, we call it a group chat?

Yeah. It's a group chat, group chat. I like it. All right, DK. Another pitch. Good afternoon, sharks. I am seeking a $5 bet with minus 120 odds on Tyra Taylor or Toad,

depending on how you want to pronounce his name, over 23.5. half rushing yards this weekend versus Cleveland. And maybe I'm going back to the well too many times on this Sharks, but last week hit the over on Patrick Mahomes rushing yards. And I'm going with the exact same logic. I think that this Cleveland pass rush is going to muck things up for the Texans up front. They're going to smoke the quarterback out of the pocket.

And Terad Taylor, I think, is athletic enough. He's a mobile enough guy to get out there and scramble around. some things. He's done that throughout his career. Last week, he went four for 40, rushing. I think all of that was probably on scrambling. I didn't rewatch that game, but I'm guessing most of that was on scrambling. And so I could definitely see him kind of getting outside the pocket, trying to make things happen, trying to keep until he's alive.

They're going to be playing from behind in all likelihood. So they're going to be dropping back to pass more. And yeah, I just think all of it really adds up to him having to get outside and run around and do a sandlot thing because this is a very good Cleveland defense. They're going to be, you know, giving a lot of pressure up front. I like this a lot. I do. DK just takes the over

on quarterbacks rushing against the Browns, which I respect. It's my new thing. It's my new edge. Because listen, the Texans aren't going to win this game. They're either going to get killed

or it's going to be close and they're going to kind of like defy expectations a little bit. I don't see a ton of holes in this other than I guess the Texans just truly crap out and they can't get anything going offensively. Sure. I do like this.

23 and a half is not a. not a crazy, scary number. That's like three scrambles. Yeah. So I think for all those reasons, Mr. Kelly, I think I'm in. Ooh. I'm in too. I'm trying to find Tyrod.

I'm trying to find Tyrod Taylor, if I can speak English. I'm trying to find Tyrod Taylor scrambles from last week because PFF actually breaks him down. I can't immediately find it. But like, it's the same reason I like Jarvis to not get a bunch of receiving yards. It's the Browns are probably going to dominate this game. They're going to be running the whole time. The Texans are going to have to throw.

And you're right. It's like if Miles Garrett and. Clowny are both in just basically not really have to worry about the run for the entire second half and they're going against the Texans line which they have decent tackles but like Taylor's gonna be running for his life. That makes total sense.

I guess the one argument and so now that you guys are both in I'm going full disclosure. By the way of debt. Full disclosure it's not like he actually scrambles for tons and tons of yards throughout his career. I just think this matchup really works out for him and for this bet in particular. I just think

you know they've got the town on the edges where they're not going to mush rush him and try and keep him in the pocket. I think they're going to try and flush them out and let the guys that are so athletic on the outside catch up to them and tackle him. The reason the quarterback runs thing is good is you really only need two or three big scrambles. Yeah, yeah. That's why I love it. Okay. Can I give you guys another pitch?

Yes. Please do. We alluded to this earlier. Sharks, good afternoon. I am here. Hi. We have a premium product. It's already made it to market.

His name's Justin Herbert. We're going over 300 yards against the Dallas. Cowboys seeking a $10 bet. It's very simple. Justin Herbert is the truth. Through for 340 yards against Washington last week. Great defense. Washington.

Washington, 340 yards. Great defense. This week they play the Cowboys. Bad defense. You only need to get over 300 yards. Kind of like, what's the catch, right? But it gets better. Because not only did he throw for 340 against Washington,

Washington's offense kind of sucked. but Dallas's offense is kind of great. It's going to be a shootout. We alluded to this earlier, but Dallas and the charges have, I believe it was the second or third highest overruder. Now it's the highest over under point total of the week. Now you're like,

what's the catch? It gets even better. DeMarcus Lawrence, who's the Cowboys top pass rusher, is out. He has a foot injury. Oh, yes. So not only was Dallas,

one of two teams, who did not have a sack last week, their only good pass rusher is now out. and also, I believe, Randy Gregory, also out. So, like, they're just kind of screwed. So Herbert's going to be relatively unfettered with now a good charge's offensive line against the toothless Cowboys defensive line.

And in a shootout, Herbert over 300 is like, it feels as safe as a non-Patrick Mahomes over 300 as you can get. And also is a lot of fun. The whole pitch I can just picture, Hyford, slapping a piece of tape onto, like, you know, the tank of water that has water shooting out. Flex tape.

sticks there. Is your betting account leaking? Justin Herbert, right over. Justin Herbert. I was in at Herbert. You had me at Hello. You ever see those ones where the guy makes the boat out of the plexiglass? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think you could actually do that? You know what? I think you could do anything with flex tape.

You could do that out of Justin Herbert. You could make a boat. How many times did Herbert not go over 300 last year? I have a Herbert bet coming up later, so I am obviously all in on this. So you just name the price and you get a blank check, Mr. Heffitz. Wow, that's fantastic. So I'm looking at his numbers from last year.

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven times. He went under three hundred seven times out of 15 games, so roughly half. I'm just gonna, I'm out just for playing the odds here. But look at the deep. I get what you're saying.

We can't agree with each other all the time, can we? But that's not a reason to get out. Look, the defenses he did not have over 300 last year. And again, that was when he was a rookie. Miami, great defense. Patriots, good defense. Denver, good defense. Saints, good defense. Denver again, good defense. Tampa Bay. Every other team, he went over 300 yards. Those are like, those are five of the best eight, 10 defenses in the NFL. Atlanta, he didn't go over. Fine, Atlanta. Okay. So my good friend Warren

Buffett. New England last year with no defense. He didn't go. It's still Bill Belichick against the rookie quarterback. Come on. I'm just saying, poking holes. My good friend Warren Buffett once said that you should be greedy when people are scared and scared when people are greedy. And I'm paraphrasing. It's probably not the correct quote. And I'm not even going to look it up. I already butchered one quote. Was that a Mitch Hedberg quote or a Warren Buffett quote? Who said that about? My good friend Mitch Hedberg once said to be greedy when people are scared and be scared when people are greedy. You guys look greedy to me right now. You guys are sounding pretty greedy. Good. So for that reason, I'm out. I'm going to gobble it up. Okay. All right, Craig.

Greed is good. Gentlemen, sharks, good afternoon. Good afternoon. I'm seeking a $5 bet minus 120 odds. Tyler Higby tied in the Rams over 39 and a half receiving yards, folks.

He had 68 last week. I could stop there. The Rams look great. Robert Woods has seemed to take in a step back in week one. Higby is playing, the amount of snaps Higby's playing, essentially at like elite tight-end levels.

Like he's now playing as like a top five tight-end. Last week, Indianapolis, which is who the Rams are playing this week, led up around 60 yards at a touchdown to the Seahawks tight ends who weren't exactly the best tight-ins in the league. I still think the Rams are on the way up. They barely even threw the ball, really, against the Bears.

Like, it was a very balanced game. And with Higby's playing time, 39 and a half, it seems extremely, extremely reasonable. I, if you value this at a $10 bet or $10 company or whatever we're doing it, I would give you 20. It's probably not why I'm a billionaire, but like, I, like, if you, it's not just that the numbers of like he was on the field a lot for Higbee. It's Tyler Higby, if you close your eyes and just looked at the, like, forget the uniforms. Just the way they lined up, they lined up like Tyler Higby was Travis Kelsey. It was the three by one with Tyler Higby as the one, which is what the chiefs do when they go into like the Warriors' death lineup.

Like that's what Travis Kelsey and the three by one is. It's like the best formation of senior football in a few years. And that's what they did with Higbee. And the three by one, that's incredible. It's basically them saying put whoever you want on him. He's going to beat him one on one. We don't care. Listen, he got, saw the second most targets in the team.

He got the second most targets per route running the team. Like, they're using him. He is the third and potentially second option and like a really volatile skyrocketing offense. I mean, I was going to bring this one. So for that reason, I'm in. Is that like, imagine if a shark? was like, I also was going to pitch this company. I was trying to think, like, don't they sometimes have, like, conflicts of interest or whatever?

It's like, I actually own stock in one of their competitors. So we go to more Cuban. It's like, I'm pitching a basketball team in Dallas. Yeah. It's like, yeah, don't, I'm out because I already have interests in this company. So, yeah. So, wait, do we have ourselves? Wait, you're out?

No, I'm in. I mean, I'm 100% in because I'm already making it. It's like an SEC thing. It's like he's trying to. So fellas, we have ourselves a group chat. We have a group chat. We have a group chat in town that would be over 39 and a half yards. I really like this.

All right, D-K, after your SEC imposed self-exile. Sharks, I know that you guys, time is money with you. And so I'm going to keep this one simple. Do you feel like printing money? Well, that causes inflation, Danny. Oh, that's true. But not for your bank account. Darren Waller, Sharks, over six and a half receptions.

I'm hitting the over on that easily, easily. How many targets do you have in the first quarter? He had 19 targets last week, you guys. 11 of the first. I think he had like eight in the first quarter or something insane. The irony is that the two times Derek R.Card didn't throw him, he was wide open. Yeah. He also had a bunch of, he had a bunch of production they left on the field because he dropped one pass.

He did. He was a little bit behind him, but he like should have caught it with two hands. The weirdest part of the 19 targets was he probably legit could have had 60 more yards in another 10th game. Right. Yeah. It was kind of a bad game. for him on. John, John Gruden said to the media after the game

that it's the greatest player he's ever coached, and John Gruden has coached. You, many, like several Hall of Famers. Didn't he call Brian Edwards, Terrell Owens? No, he said he looks like Terrell Owens, like physically. Just wanted to clarify. Still, if you go back to last year,

Darren Waller has had single-digit targets just one time his last six games. Here's his targets over the last six games. 19, 10, 6, 12, 10, 17. And in the sixth target game, he had five catches for 112 yards,

so it was a really good game still. He's just a baller, and he is the number one guy in this offense by a country mile. Derek Carr looks to him before he looks to anyone else every single time. He's always going to be the first guy

he wants to hit on every play. So yeah, I mean, this one just, to me, is weird. I was like, I had to double check it because I'm like, how is this so low? Six and a half, that's just like,

he's going to get that in the first half. I think we should, like put such a large amount of money on this. We can't even really talk about it on air. We should probably just confer separately. I mean, you can be clear. What we're talking about here is a guy who is third in the NFL and catches

has six and a half. It's kind of weird, is the over-under. You guys have to check by math. Am I correct? This is actually a bet you can do because it seems too easy. This is real?

We should probably like bet this before this episode goes. That's probably what we should do. I think we have a group chat. I love Darren, playing pit. what do you think Craig I mean obviously the defense is pretty solid but I think in terms of a pass rush

getting to him quickly he's going to try and get the ball out quickly that just means more for Waller right? Yeah I was thinking about hedging on this and being like this is a conflict of interest because I'm a Pittsburgh fan but I don't know you know maybe they just like decide to stick Minka Fitzpatrick on him and they limit him to four or five catches

that's the fear is that they're like yeah Minka and someone else doubles him all day and it's like we will just beat them one and one and the pass rush will get there and like good luck Derek Carr you don't get there in Waller today So that is a fear that they just dominate and the Raiders

have kind of a big letdown game but it's really hard with that number. I mean, it seems impossible he's not going to get 10 to 12 targets. That's a crazy bet now. That's a good one.

You gotta do over six and a half. Also, wait, can I toss in one Raiders thing I was looking at? Henry Rugg's under two and a half catches is plus 105. The dude's never had more than three catches in a game in his career.

His career high, I think, is five targets. He's never had more than five targets in a game in his career. That's pretty good. five quarters to get five targets last week against the Ravens and now he's got to play the Steelers. Not a bad under.

Yeah. That's pretty good. I like that one. Okay. Sharks, I come to you today to fade a 32 year old running back on what we believe two weeks is going to be the worst team in the NFL. Houston Texans running back, working groom,

under 38 and a half rushing yards. Now I know what you're thinking. He had 26 carries for 85 yards last week. And I'm here to say, that won't happen again. He's not getting 24. 26 yards. Again, Texans play in the Browns. The Texans are not going to be able to run enough. And Mark Ingram is a good enough. Even 26 for 85 is like middling. It would be really surprising if Mark Ingram was just straight. Like if the Texans had the game script to get him more than 40 rushing yards, this is profoundly boring. This is the least sexy bet I can probably possibly

be proposed to you. He was reading for Mark Ingram to not be on the field. I also think it is quite safe. He had to be the most surprising 26 carry week of the year so far. I mean, it's like, we didn't even see that coming. I thought it was either going to be David Johnson or Phil Blenzie, probably being the starter, and all of a sudden, Ingram was getting 26 carries. Basically, it's like, how many times more this season do you think Mark Ingram, like, he's going to get over 40 rushing yards, basically?

And, like, if you just get this is essentially the over-under. I feel like the over-under, this is the highest that will actually be for quite some time because he had 85 last week. I mean, I like, I don't know. I like this in theory because I don't think they're going to be playing from behind, but I also think they still might run the ball, you know, just because they don't have a lot of talent in the passing game, blah, blah, blah. So I'm nervous about this one a little bit. I'll be honest. What is it, 30-something? That's not very high.

38 is low enough to where you could have like a 120-yard run and then you're like really in jeopardy. I think I'm out. Craig, it's up to you. Let me before, Craig, before you make your decision, let me say four words. Miles Garrett. Chedavian clownie. I'll add two more. Houston Texans.

Ah, 38.5 here. Okay. All right. Let's do it. Fuck it. Let's do it. You got him.

Okay. All right. Sharks. Sell me this pen. Sell me this pen. I have two bets here that I want to sell you and you have to decide one or the other. Not choosing one is not an option. You have to pick one of these.

I was going to take one of these. I was going to do this today and then I thought you would yell at me. That's a very high-thist. This is a very high-fits-style rule change. Well, I'm coming in here with two companies and I want to see which one you like that. We make wine and martini glasses. Okay. Here's my first one, Sharks.

I'm seeking a $5 bet on wide receiver Jacoby Myers of the Patriots to have over four and a half receptions at plus 105. That or this one's a little spicier. Derek Henry under one and a half catches. So he has to get one or fewer. One or fewer catches for Seattle. Okay, so we'll stick on Henry for now. I went back and counted sharks in 79 career games. He has caught more than one pass 30% of those games.

Over unders are supposed to be coin flips. Essentially, I have a 70% chance based on history that I will win this bet. Wow. I would say it's even stronger than that because the Titans have been like winning so many of those games. But last week was like the first time in a while where the Titans got their asses kicked early, which in theory should lead to like more catches for Henry. And they were down 24 to 6 at halftime and he only got three catches. So like your worst case scenario if the Titans are blown out immediately, he still only caught three.

So you're agreeing with him? I kind of am because basically my question is are the Seahawks going to blow out the Titans? because that's the question. I don't think they're going to blow them out, no. But the Titans, do they have the cornerbacks, the guard lock it and the DKMACF? No. Like they have Kevin Byer just good safety and like who else?

Like their seconders pretty unimposing. Here's the thing I've learned about the Seahawks over the last 10 years of covering the NFL and covering the Seahawks, five of those which I was covering the Seahawks. Never ever count your chickens when it comes to the Seahawks. Here's the thing. I think they're going to be a good team. That's about where I'm going to stop. Every game they play in, as Kevin Clark famously said, is weird.

Actually, he said they've never played in a normal game. It's always close. They always play up to or down to their level of competition. I'd say that the Colts game was actually the most normal game they've ever played in last week. Yeah. Like, it was so foreign feeling. I actually see that's true. So I'm out on Henry.

Go ahead, Craig. What are you going to say? You're out? Okay. Let me jump back here. I see what you're saying because it's like if there's going to be a game where Derek Henry has six catches for 100. 110 yards.

It would be against the Seahawks, man. What? Okay. No of this makes sense, Craig. It doesn't have to. I'm actually, I'm in. I'm in on the Derek camera. Although, as I said that, I got that pit of my stomach.

I'm like, no, that's incorrect. That's going to lose right as I said it. The number is scary. 1.5 catches, you're like, Jesus, that's not a lot. But he's literally only done it in 30% of the games. Like, this is supposed to be a point flip. I'm going to, I'm going to bet. No, I'm with Craig.

I'm in. I'm in. I'm in on the bet. He's not getting multiple cats. There's no plural for day. here's another reason that I'm out on the Henry thing is because I like the Jacoby Myers one a lot going over so he is the he's been the most targeted receiver in their offense not only last week but going back to last year like the whole second half the season

I know it's a different quarterback but still I think he's good quarterback's better yeah I think he's he gets open he's he has the trust of the offense the skill of quarterback mac Jones and of the coordinator most importantly and so I think he's going to get plenty of options. He's going to get plenty of looks. Six catches last week on nine targets. I mean, he's playing all the time. You know what I mean? Like, can you name a corner on the Jets? No, and that's the thing. He had nine targets and six catches last week against the dolphins who have like a solid defense. They're playing the freaking Jets. He plays 99% of the snaps. So I love both these bets, but I needed to come to my sharks here to let me know where I should really focus on.

So wait, now, do we have to convince you which one to take? you're turning it around on us Maybe we'd take both here And I you know I take one with Mr. Hyphids And one with Mr. Kelly Can we parlay it? Oh, maybe we just parlay it

Do them both I don't know how that works Let's do it with props You definitely can Okay Let's get to some long shot stuff here These are like you know These are kind of more you know

I don't know The Angel InVit it's like penny stocks You know these are throwing Throwing some around Hyphids I think you should let me go first Because mine is like a watered down version of yours. I have not seen yours,

so if you see mine, then yeah, I try to go for it. Okay, so here is my long shot bed of the week. I'm basically grabbing Dak and Justin Herbert and I'm fusing them together into one giant parlay. Oh, yeah, that is,

I see why, yeah, that's exactly what I do. So you have a couple others in there, a couple other players, but so the lines, we have DAC over one and a half passing TDs is the line, slamming the over.

Herbert over one and a half passing TDs, slamming the over. I'm putting those together and pairing them with Dax's over on 306 passing yards and Herbert's over on 300 passing yards. So essentially, I'm just saying, Dak and Herbert need to have two touchdowns or more throwing and over 300 yards each and it pays almost four to one.

It feels like a lock plus 370. Let me go a step further. What I did here was I just took the over on every Dack Herbert category. So Dack and Herbert both have to throw for more than 300. Dak and Herbert both have to throw for multiple touchdowns. I also took the under on Zika. Galliott rushing yards under 60, which Craig will be upset with,

but Craig will like that I also added in the over on Mike Williams receiving units. Which is a worldview. It's like the cherry on top to try and get Craig in on you. You have tickled my fancy sir. No, that's a six-leg parlay. It sounds crazy, but it's like a shootout, it's a six-leg shootout special.

Like, I'm just saying it's a lot of yards, multiple passing touchdowns, so Mike Williams is a big play. Which, so all that to say is that's 13 to 1. They both go 300, they both have multiple touchdowns. Mike Williams is over, the Mike Williams over is... 57?

Which is pretty good for the Cowboys. Yeah. So, I like it. I'll definitely, I'll give this a little nibble. I mean, you gave me enough to wet my beak, as the Godfather would say. But, I don't know, I guess the fear here is that the ZEKin freaks me out. Thirteen to one. There's six things.

I'm just saying, like, you're going to be watching this game. Mike Williams gets hurt every other game and, like, half way through. I don't want to sacrifice this easy bet with, I think the quarterback thing is a fucking guarantee so I'm just nervous about the other shit. No shit, you're nervous. It's six things. Let me give you my real pitch. Here's the 4 o'clock slate.

It's Cardinals Vikings. It's Falcons bucks. Do you want to watch either of those games? No. The four games, like Dallas Chargers is by far the best game in the 4 o'clock slate. If you're not fan of one of those teams, you're going to be rooting for a shootout anyway and you're going to want all this stuff to happen? Perfect.

13 to one bet. That didn't help. That didn't make me want to bet it more. It's because the afternoon slate sucks. I like it. I'm, fuck it. Yeah, I'm putting money on the 4-1 to 1 for just the quarterback stuff. But 13-1 is pretty tasty. And it's essentially hedging my Zieg bet, but sure.

Danny? Do I, do I? Are we still doing the Shark Tank thing? Do I need to be in on this or not? I'm in on it just, I'm in on it because I want to be in this group text. Let's do it. There we go. Okay.

Did we get a group chat? Wait, are you going to do you like both? Are you going to do both? no I want the 13 to 1 there we go yeah wow dK yes in on the all right dek what's your long shot on the dice not quite as long of a shot mine is completely different and way more

boring so thanks for that terris marshal anytime touchdown anytime in the game he scores a touchdown it's receiving her I don't think it counts if he throws a touchdown but if he catches or runs it in he gets a touchdown that's 4 to 1 plus 410 Panthers rookie teres marshal

yeah panthers rookie teres not everyone knows that's insane that it wouldn't count if he threw one in. That should 100% how it works, though. I'm not 100% sure, but I think that's a non-quarterback. It's like throwing it should be involved. So for Terrace Marshall, I think people get, you know,

discouraged or whatever. He just wasn't really on the radar last week. He didn't have huge production, but he did look good with the underlying numbers in terms of his routes where he ran them, which was like 80% out of the slot, which in the Joe Brady offense, I think, could be very

beneficial for him down the line. He was Sneakley second in targets on the team last week was six. And he led the team with two end zone targets, DJ Moore and Robbie Anderson both had won. So I think he's going to be a red zone target for Sam Darnold. I think in this Brady offense, the slot receiver is a big part of the passing game. Just it's going to happen. And so I don't know.

I'm just going with my gut on this one. I just think it's kind of a fun, like a fun, you know, sort of out there prop bet to do. And I think he's going to score a touchdown. 410 is pretty good. I like that a lot, actually. 410's not bad. The Saints defense goes. Throw five bucks on it and see how it goes.

It's good odds for a player of his style. And I should exactly should put it. Like a guy with his end zone target shouldn't be 4 to 1. Exactly. He was the only guy with an end zone target in the game. So I actually agree. All right. So just to be clear in case people are wondering,

if we're recapping the prop situation. Last week, I believe I'm in first place. Not to the horn, but I believe too too. The juju thing is hazy. Why would you be in first place, though? because I got all three of mine right. I got three of mine and I hit my other button. I hit my other bet shoe.

But mine pay, I won more money. No, this isn't how we did. This is not what we decided how it was going to work. We decided that was just for fun. Yeah, but if the tiebreaker could be something that helps me,

why would I, and I'm the host, why would I choose the tiebreaker of my choice? Okay, fine, whatever. Ignoring the fact that you said 49 and a half for under juju and then the line changed, before you made your actual bet. And he had 52.

So the number you thought he was going to bet was wrong. That's called, as Warren Sharp would say, we time our bets for maximum performance. You know, that's a strategy. So actually, that's the bonus that puts you over the top, I think. Let's forget about it. If it's, sure. Okay, I'll let you have this one.

We'll let him have it. You want to just recap really quickly? Because we already did talk about some last episode, but yeah. So, DECA said, Kyler Murray overpassing yards that hit. Craig said Kyler over rushing yards that did not. My Miles Gaskin one went over, Sweated it out. Craig over Damian Harris that worked.

D.K. over for rushing yards that worked. My one for Mahomes over passing yards worked, even though you both laughed at me. Alvin Camara went over rushing yards. Juju went under the, don't worry about the exact number. He hit the under.

He hit the under. He technically hit the under. Craig's one for Stefan Diggs to go over on receiving yards. Did not work. D.K. is one for Kyler Murray, two scored touchdown did hit. mine, Jamal Williams, two and a half to one to score

rushing touchdown did hit, and then Reggie Moester was not the first score of the 49ers game, although maybe if he had not gotten hurt, perhaps. In terms of the actual stakes to this contest, we ask people to email to ringer fantasy football at gmail.com what the stake should be.

Someone said, this is from Rhino, actually suggested that the season long over under loser, whoever comes in last, should have to sing the opera song from the end of Stepbrothers on this podcast. And then one of us has to be the background drummer.

I think for a variety of the second place does that. For a variety of reasons, we probably shouldn't do that. But it did make me think the loser should sing the vampire song from Sarah Marshall on the pod. I really hope Craig loses because he's good at that. No joke. I might be doing that at a wedding in January. I might be singing the vampire song at a wedding. You said that to me.

I thought you were kidding. Are you serious about that? Yeah, I'm serious. We have two of my dear friends are getting married in January. and after the ceremony, there's going to be like a karaoke thing. And I've never done karaoke once in my life. And I was like, I want to do something funny.

Do you never do karaoke? I've never done karaoke. And they were like, no, it's a really small wedding. They want everybody to get up and do one. It's going to be at like a brewery. And they like rent it out. So it's no like rando's there. It'll just be like people I know.

But I'm thinking about doing the Sarah Marshall thing. I think it would be really funny. How many of the people do you know? It's almost better if you don't know the people, isn't it? Oh, my God. Well, I won't know everybody. How many people do you think have seen the movie? God, I hope all of them.

Actually, no. I hope a couple don't. Are the parents going to be? What is the father of the bride going to be there for this? Unconfirmed. Die. Isn't it kind of like a morose downer of a song to be singing that? No, that would be so funny.

I hope I have a real piano that I'm not actually playing. Yeah. Oh, I, I, I, I'm in favor of that, Craig, regardless. Hell yeah. I mean, what? I'm just going to go up there and sing like a Bruno Mars song. That's boring. I think, okay, we'll see. We'll see how that goes. And then we'll see if that's the tally for the losers to do that. Okay, let's get a bad quarterback league. Yeah. Okay, can I just say it was really fun last week? Just kind of swathing quarterback suck. If you're wondering what the hell we're talking about, Fanduels made us a special custom bad quarterback league. It is a resuscitation of something from Grantland where the modern quarter, the great modern quarterback gets too much attention. We should be paying more attention to bad

because it's really fun if Trubisky's bad to have like a stake in that somehow. So you can play on Fandall, go to a bad quarterback league. You can go to game styles where at the bottom. You can also go to bad cube. Fandle.com slash bad QB points. You get points for picks and fumbles and you lose points for completions and yardage and being a good quarterback. So with that said, do you want to just want to recap last week first or get to this week? Well, yeah, we should we should quickly talk about last week.

Last week, uh, high fits was in first and I was in second and DK finished and last. I'm fortunate. Well, that's what happened. because I picked Daniel Jones and you guys didn't because you must not know much about quarterback. I had negative 81. I had negative 55. Yeah. We're working on the scoring.

Yeah, you know, you want, you want high scores. You know, you want positive to positive. But the irony was that Aaron Rogers was like the best pick of the week. I know. The elite quarterbacks were all in a tier so that you have to pick between Rogers and Josh Allen. I picked Josh Allen thinking that Josh Allen was going to like maybe be bad because the Steelers defense. He wasn't that bad. He was negative.

Like, he wasn't terrible. Aaron Rogers threw two picks and three throws after throwing five picks for the entire season last year. So didn't see that coming. He's not on the slate this week because he's Monday night football. So that makes things kind of interesting. He would have been an easy pick to not be terrible in week two anyway. And again, the way this works is that you can't just pile up with like the three worst quarterbacks.

They're sorted into tiers. Now, the tier one this week is like the most difficult choice lineup decision I've had to make in like years. Like I have real fantasy teams in the playoffs I haven't had to think as much as this. The tier one for Fandul this week is stunning. It is. Carson Wentz going up against the Rams. The Rams.

Andy Dalton playing the Bengals, Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson against the Pats and Tyrod against the Browns. I mean, think about that. So you got Wentz fighting off Aaron Donald with a battered Colts line. Zach Wilson, second career stark going against Bill Belichick. After losing their best O-Linman.

Oh. Lauren's coming off three picks and being like the second worst quarterback after Rogers last week going against Andy Dalton being Andy Dalton. Against the Bengals. It's the Dalton revenge game though. Sure. Well, then it's the Tyrod Taylor revenge game too against the Browns. That's a good point.

I got to go with Zach Wilson. It's Belichick's record against rookie quarterbacks is stunning. And like this poor kid. I mean, did you see where Zach Wilson has, he said he had whiplash from how hard he got hit? Like he has neck pain. like he actually got hit so hard. Is he going to be wearing one of those like neck braces during the game? He can't turn his head?

I highly doubt it. But like hard to play quarterback like that? Ill advised. So Mackay Beckton, the left tackle for the Jets is out. But I don't think that's even the reason he got hit so hard. He just didn't shift the protection. Like Brian Burns, who's the best pass rusher for the Panthers, just was unblocked because Wilson just didn't shift the way the line was supposed to block.

So I don't think Belichick's going to, I don't think that's going to go so well for him. The whole Bill Belichick experience for Zach Wilson. Yeah, it could be tough. could be tough. I went with Carson Wentz. Me too. I'm just kind of running it back from last week. Andy Dalton, I believe, was the worst quarterback last week.

Guess which defense? Other than Rogers. Other than Rogers, but he's not on the slate. Guess which defense Andy Dalton faced last week? Rams. What? Why would I guess that? It was in the Sunday football.

We don't want. And also, you probably know. So I don't know why I said guess. That's correctly. I think the word was remember. It was the Rams who Wentz gets to this week. Aaron Donald coming in through the middle.

You know, the Colts offensive line is kind of banged up. And even with Quentin Nelson playing, like he's maybe not quite 100%. So in the Seahawks, I think they got, well, I don't remember off the time of my head, but they got pressure like all game long.

They say hit him a lot. Yeah, they got to him a couple times. He's also just the fact that he is, whence, you know, sacks are a quarterback stat. He holds onto the ball. He tries to make things happen. I think he's going to fumble in this game.

I think Aaron Don's, He's going to hit him. He's going to a fumble. I don't think he's very good. All that out there too. Maybe I should have put, I buried the lead. I don't think he's very good.

I saw some really weird stat where like he held on to the ball longer than most of the quarterbacks in week one, yet he also had the shortest depth of target, which like doesn't even make any sense. Run around and dump it off. Yeah. So, I wentz as well.

Cool. All right. So tier one, you guys are going Wentz against Aaron Donald. I can't fight it, but I'm going Wilson and spell check. Tier two. got Matt Ryan at Tampa Bay

Woof Tuah hosting Buffalo Sam Donald against the Saints Also Sam Donald's picture is so funny I'm looking at it He's at a different orientation Than everyone else

I don't know to explain it Otherwise Donald gives the scale is different Scale is different It's like he's especially compared to Mac Jones He was closer to the camera than Mac Jones was You know how it's like you look ugly on FaceTime When you hold the phone below you

That's like what they did I figured it out. Derek Carr has his entire neck and a little chest in his picture. And Sam Darnold has like half of his neck at most. Like, I don't understand it all. All chin. It's like they didn't adjust the camera to the height of the player. Anyway, Donald against the Saints, Mac Jones against the Jets, Derek Carr against the Steelers.

Who do you got, D.K.? I feel like Mac Jones doesn't belong in this group again. He got the shaft week one. Regardless, I'm going with Matt Ryan. and it has a lot to do with continued bad vibes around the Falcons offense. Bad vibes. I mean, they just look terrible, week one. And now they're going up against legit, the best, maybe the best defense in the NFL,

certainly the deepest and one of the best pass rushes. It could be trouble for Matt Ryan, who can't move. He's not like a type of guy who's going to run a lot. You've seen Stephen A. Smith ran about Kwame Bryant. He's like, can't move. Can't catch the ball. So he's not going to, he's not going to be the type of guy who, picks up points with his legs, I don't think.

And so, yeah, I went with Matt Ryan, although it's a little bit dangerous because they're going to be throwing a lot because they're going to be from behind. So that could maybe come back to bite me. But I think just ultimately this pass rush, think about how they're just going to destroy the interior offensive line of the Falcons in this game. Yeah, I'm going back and forth between Derek Carr

against Pitt and Matt Ryan against the bucks. I just think Derek Carr didn't really look that good against Baltimore. He didn't look good until like two minutes left in the, in overtime. No, well, actually, my actual thought on the Raiders

was that Derek Carr looked awful except in the two minute, which to me is sometimes a thing about play calling. Personally. So you're calling out, Gruden. The Steelers are so much better

on Deve than the Ravens, in part just because the Ravens just lost so many pieces already. Whereas the Steelers, I mean, the Steelers pressure Josh Allen, like 40% of his snaps, even though they blitz twice.

Yeah, they drop back in coverage the whole game, yeah. having said that I kind of want to go Darnold because the Saints defense is good. They just destroyed Aaron Rogers. I'm not saying that they'll do that to the Panthers again, but like Donald, I love Darnold.

I still believe in Donald, but I still think he's good for a picker three. You clearly don't believe in him. I do. Okay. I'm going to stick with Derek Carr. So we're all going to go. Wow.

I like it. Okay. All right. Tier three is Baker Mayfield at Houston, Jimmy Garoppel against the Eagles, Rothesburg against the Raiders, Teddy Bridgewater against the Jaguars and James against Carolina.

I found this tier to be very difficult. I agree. I didn't have a strong attraction or feeling for any of these guys. I want Jimmy G. Just because I think he's the type of guy who can sort of just melt down.

And also, again, I'm going back to what I said last week, there's just a chance he doesn't play some of the snaps because they bring in Trey Lance. That is true. You don't have to, like, there is a, like, just like Trey Lance last week.

Like, Jimmy G just might miss out on a couple times. Touchdowns. Right, exactly. You might miss out on the red zone because didn't Tray Lance through a touchdown last week, didn't he? Yeah.

So there you go. Less points for Jimmy. I'm just going for the zero in this tier. Picking Rothusberger, because I just, when I look at this list, I'm like who's going to throw a pick, I just still feel like it's Rothesberger.

Maybe that's ridiculous of me. Oh, I felt the same way, except I picked, I went through my head and I was like, who's going to throw a pick? James. Still James. He did throw a pick last week.

He threw a pick last week. He threw for 140 yards. He's pulling the wool over our eyes, you guys. like yeah we have one game we're like well James is just yeah now I kind of want to pick you're kind of getting me to think Jamesis again who you get a bet is going to throw a pick in here

and we can't mention we can't we can't not mention James all right I'll pick James okay fine I can't believe you were like I got to pick one guy who's definitely going to throw a pick and I didn't pick fine I know what all right I'll pick James with you and then DK you're taking work grapple all right tier four Tana Hill at Seattle Herbert at Dallas sorry Herbert hosting

Dallas Joe Burrow hosting the Bears sorry, I'm at the Bears. I'm totally screw up with this game. It's all right. I don't think anyone needs to be for that. Kirk Cousins against Arizona, Matt Stafford against the Colts. I kind of feel like it's Tannahill against the Seahawks. That's an interesting one because they played so terribly in week one,

and the Seahawks have a pretty decent pass rush, I think. So, you know, there's not like a lot of star power in the CX defense line, but they're pretty deep and they have some good athleticism up there. And so, like I said, last, you know, with the last one, they pressured wins all the game. Tannahill is he's tough though because I don't really believe that he's that bad. I think week one was sort of an aberration

he's going to bounce back. Who do you have then, Greg? I have Burrow. Yeah, same here. I'm between Burrow and Taniel. I have Burrow and I'm waffling on whether I want Taniel or not. Yeah, this is a really hard one, but like I'm kind of just basing this.

Like even though Burrow played really well, like they didn't throw it a ton. He still got hit it. He got sacked like five times. Their offensive line is terrible. Chicago, like I know they got, killed by the Rams but they still kind of didn't look that bad on defense

no their defensive line is still good also I feel like the Bears defensive line will just destroy the Bengals offensive line I mean annihilate it so I don't know I like a strip fumble I feel like Burrow

good odds I'm so I'm so nervous for Burrow still I love Burrow it makes me so nervous he didn't play behind that line but yeah I'm going with Burrow on this one all right tier 5's Tom Brady against the Falcons

Dak against the Chargers Russ against the Titans Jalen Hurts against the Niners. Yeah, this is insane. This is tough. How do you pick this one? Come on.

Ultimately, I went with Brady just because picking Rogers last week was ass backwards and he ended up being terrible. So I'm just basically saying this is an ass backwards decision. I don't expect him to struggle against Atlanta's defense. But at the end of the day, you have to pick somebody in this tier. Also, he doesn't run and all these other guys run. I was going to say, on one hand, you can try and nitpick and be like, well, if someone who could throw a pick here,

it's like maybe DAC because like they don't have Collins and like the charges of Durwin James and Bosen but like man, I realistically you're trying to limit the damage from these dudes I kind of think Brady too.

I mean Brady's probably going to throw five touchdowns and make us look like idiots but that's fine. I went with Hertz which I know is counterintuitive because he was so great last year

but like I don't know I'll just pick the non-Hall of Famer in bed on that. You asshole. I'm still not. I'm going to go Hertz too. I like that live. That's good.

I don't know. Yeah, that's a good point. I'll pick the non-Hall-of-famer. All right. Call me crazy. One of these guys has had 200 good games. The other has had one good game. Honestly, like, his A-DOT was like three.

It wasn't that great of a game. Tier 6. It was good. Tier 6, which in my mind, you could actually switch with Tier 5. Lamar against the Chiefs, Josh Allen against the Dolphins, Kyler against the Vikings, Mahomes against the Ravens.

This feels easy, right? Who are you going to take it? I don't know if it's easy. Who you got? I think it's got to be Lamar. Yeah, that's what I put. I mean, they just lost Staley on the O line. They don't have, I mean, they're just so decimated up front, and they're playing the Chiefs.

I don't know. I mean, Kyler is red-hot. I think Josh is going to bounce back. I mean, the Ravens are so injured. It's actually comical. Like, I was thinking as like a joke that every day you just miss a Ravens injury, but they actually continue to get hurt. Ronnie Stanley of the left tackle, who did not look good on Monday or Sunday to football. Monday.

The days don't know. matter anymore. The left tackles hurt. They already lost the right guard. They traded away Orlando Brown. I literally can't keep track. They lost another corner. Like the chiefs are going to destroy them. The line, by the way, is three and a half. I bet the shit out of that. Chiefs are only getting rolling three and a half.

Like the Ravens left tackle is out for this game and the line didn't move. Put your mortgage on the Chiefs. Don't do that. Don't do that. Craig, Craig didn't just say that. Okay. So you're going, you guys are going to, both going Lamar. No argument for Josh Allen

against the dolphins. He has crushed the dolphins in the past. All right, I'm going to Lamar too. There it is. Boom. Boom.

That's the bad quarterback league. You can play fandle. com slash bad QB or let's just go to the NFL tab on Fandol and go to game styles. We're at the bottom. And then I think that's it.

Good luck to everyone with your lines for this week. We'll be on Green Room. You can catch us download the app. We'll be on Green Room at noon. On Sunday, we'll be doing start sit and we'll take questions. You can hop in the chat.

You can hop on stage. and talk to us. It's fun. You can engage. You can ask his questions. Catch us there. Is that it? Is that where we got? And then we'll be on Greenham again after the games in the afternoon, around 4 o'clock Pacific. So check us out there as well. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Lorne.

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