The Ringer NFL Show - ‘Shark Tank’ Prop Bets - Week 8

Episode Date: October 29, 2021

We pitch one another on our favorite prop bets for the weekend’s games in the style of ‘Shark Tank.’ Later, we offer up our favorite long-shot bets, including our new moonshot bet of the week. Finally, we give our Bad QB League picks for Week 8. Prop Bets (0:44) Long-Shot Bets (42:08) Bad QB League (49:07) Sign up and compete against us in the Bad QB League on FanDuel here.  Email us at [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We love bells. We're all about the bell. Hit the bell at the top of the Rear Fantasy Football show page. It's great. All right, let's get into the show. My name is Danny Huyvens. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Quarlebeck. It is Friday.

We are coming to you. We are giving our prop bets for week eight. We're doing it shark tank style. We're going to pitch it. Let's just get right in. do it. DK. Yo.

Your top rocks for week eight. All right. By the way, before we start, I wanted to say we got an email from a teacher. I can't remember where he lives, but he said he was walking past one of his classes the other day, one of his neighbor's classes. And they were playing Shark Tick. It was a sub. And they were playing Shark Tick in the business class, which I thought was hilarious.

Classic, classic sub move, like our show to just get through this like period or whatever. So love that. All right, let's get into it. Sharks. Looking for a $5 investment on this bet. Dalvin Cook, over 18 and a half rush attempts versus the Cowboys this week. So, the Vikings coming off a bye, looking healthy, Dalvin Cook, good to go.

Last I saw, he wasn't on the injury report. Of course, the last two times that we've done this, I've mentioned a guy, and then he's gone on the injury report after, like late in the week, so hopefully that doesn't happen again. You're taking on the Craig Mantle of the people you mentioned immediately get injured. They immediately tweak their hamstring for some reason.

if I even mentioned them on the show. It happened with Terry McLaren. It happened with Sterling Shepard. Let's not have it happen, Dalvin Cook. He's healthy. He's good to go. For the Vikings this week, actually,

both teams have a very healthy offensive line versus defensive line advantage, according to PSS rating. Are you trying to jinx the players healthy? Because I said healthy. Going out of your way to mention how healthy everyone is? No, I meant healthy as in like a substantial advantage.

Oh, okay. But I probably shouldn't have used the word healthy again. You're right. And so, but basically both of these teams have good advantages with their offensive line versus the opposing defensive line. I think there's just going to be a good amount of running in this game. You know, we got Dak coming back from his calf injury. I feel like they could lean on the run game even a little bit more than maybe usual than they have this year. It's a pretty even game.

The Cowboys are favored by one and a half on the road. I think that probably means they can go run balanced. And I don't think that they're going to jump out to a big lead and then basically eliminate the Vikings need to run the ball. So basically what I'm saying is, I think Dalvin Cook's going to get his normal allotment of carries. In the full games that he's played this season, he's 20 rushes, 22 rushes, and 29 rushes. 18 and a half just felt kind of low. If he's going to play this whole game, I feel like he can easily get that. So I'm going the over on Dalvin Cook versus the Cowboys, 18 and a half rushes.

What do you guys think? One thing I'll say is that why I like this bet is because they don't treat Alexander Madison. Alexander Madison, they don't treat him. like a Jamal Williams in the old Packers offense. When Dalvin Cook is healthy, he pretty much is a zero. In the games,

Dalvin Cook has been fully healthy. Jamal Williams had, or I mean, Alexander Madison has had one rush, three rushes, three rushes. That's it. Yeah. And every game Dalvin Cook's been healthy,

he's easily had over 18 and a half carries. So this all checks out. They're coming off the buy. He's probably the healthiest he's been since week one. Knock on wood. I'm in. Let's do it.

So yeah, I was going to say, so going back to even last year, so the three three out of the three games that he's been fully healthy and made it through a game this year he's had a full allotment of like 20 plus rushes going back the nine games and going back nine games in 2020 only twice did he go under this number it's like just he's just they he is their guy he's their three down guy they lean on him a ton they want to make him a big part of this

offense so yeah i i don't know i just it just feels low to me davvin cook had 29 carries last week. That's it. I'm in. That's it. I thought you're going to like come up with something smart. Like they're overusing him. I'm in. I like. Group chat. Sweet. Yeah. All right. Now don't get hurt, Dalvin in the next day. It would be great. All right. Well, I guess everyone should start Alexander Madison this week because now Dalvin is absolutely screwed because D.K. picked him. Okay. My sharks. Yes. I was going to say my bet. And then I sweet. to sharks. You're not my sharks. I feel like we're your sharks.

Okay, my sharks. We're like the sharks in finding Nemo, you know, when they're having like the AA meeting about eating fish. Remember that? Pros are friends, not food. Hello, Bruce. You could say that this shark tank is in some ways, not that there's some luck. Okay.

I'm like friends. It's T. Higgins over 58 receiving yards this week. I like how you put that. You're trying to sell us, man. Well, it's really simple. The Bengals have been crushing it. Obviously, everyone's talking about Jamar Chase, dude. It's like Jamar Chase has been dominating.

He had 200 yards last week. You know what Jim Archie's second in receiving yards? Like, period. Yeah, that's bizarre. It's Cooper Cup. Jamar Chase in receiving arts this season. And obviously Chase has had like the best seven game stretch to begin a career ever for receiving yards wise.

Here's the thing, though. That's going to come back around. Like, T. Higgins is actually getting a, pretty equal amount of opportunity that Jamar Chase has. I mean, in terms of routes run, even targets, I mean, Teakins has had just as many, if not more targets than Jamar Chase and like the majority of the games over the last month and a half. He had 15 targets last week. That's most among all receivers.

That's the thing. Yeah, Teagan's, yeah, there you go, literally the most targets of any receiver last week. So it's just balance, right? Like, Jamar Chase isn't going to be able to just do this every week. These things go back and forth. It's just 58 is a super reasonable number for T. Higgins. So again, as T. It just said 15 targets last week.

Yeah, the thing about, so the thing about Jemar Chase, I love the guy. I feel like I was very, very excited about him over the offseason. I did kind of like fall a little bit for the preseason sort of narratives and like backed off a little bit, I think, of the hype. But overall, he's been one of my favorite players. I think he was like number four on my big board. I love the guy. I love the talent. We said Jemar Chase, like I was a little wary of him in redraft, obviously in Dynasty.

where like he's still a 99th percentile receiver prospect. Yeah, yeah. You got to trade for this guy immediately. People are starting to get afraid trade for him. I definitely did say that. Her point was you can't bank on him having the best receiving season for rookie ever like Justin Jefferson did. And it turns out you could.

He having the best receiving season ever. You can bank on it. Just like his teammate did. But what I will say about Jamar Chase is he is like outperforming expectation based on his volume and based on his like target numbers and all that by like a lot. So odds are He's going to come back to Earth Ever so slightly

I don't think he's going to come back to Earth Because I think a lot of times When you outperform expectation based on volume That just means you're really good That's like Alvin Camara You're good at football You're good at the game So you're going to outproduce

What you're expected total is or whatever But he's doing it so much Like last week for instance Like that slant route he caught Where he did the reverse pivot And then ran for 80 yards Like that's not going to happen Every game

I mean I'd love to I would love for it to happen For my fantasy teams But it's just odds it's not going to happen. I think what we're going to see is the distribution of production for the Bengals is going to even out a little bit as we go down the line. T. Higgins is getting more of like the short and intermediate stuff.

Jamar Chase is getting a lot of these. He's almost kind of got like the Tyler Lockett vibe where he's getting these massive big plays because he has the really, really locked in chemistry with Joe Burrow. You're going to see a few games here I think where T. Higgins is like the big monster game. Jamar Chase has a good, solid game. So yeah, I'm, definitely on board with the Higgins thing. I've been kind of saying that this week all

week. I went on a radio show the other day and I was basically like hammer T. Higgins. Trade low for T. Higgins. So I feel like I have to, I have to agree with you on this one and go with you over. You're saying that on radio shows. You're not saying it on this podcast. Yeah, what gives? Well, I'm saying it right now. I'm saying go buy low for T. Higgins. It's cheating on this podcast. Right now. Go buy low. Who is your radio mistress? I go on a radio show for Vancouver every week. Talk fantasy. It's fun. buddy Bick is the host. Are they funny? Are they funnier than us?

They're not funnier than you guys. They're funny. We're going to, when the kids get a bed, we're going to talk about this. Sorry. Okay. I mean, you guys, they're different. They're different. They're not like better or worse. They're just different than you guys. You just need something else. Neal Spice, you're bored of us. I get it. It's been a long time. They're Canadian, you know? You guys are Americans.

All right. Well, I'm going to give you a two for one on this game because we need to pivot off. I'm very upset. I will actually, in all series, while we're here, we're taking T. Higgins and the Bengals, and I'm doing over. 58 yards. I'm going to give you two for one, and I'm cheating. I'm literally giving two of my prop bets right here. The other one is C.J. Uzoma under two and a half catches. Wow. You're not buying. You're not buying the Zoma breakout. You're not buying his three target performance last week. No, that's my point, though. I know he's had the touchdowns and all this stuff. Adam Levitton established the run through this one out there. I love it. C. G. Zoma has had

one game with more than three targets the entire season. One game with more than three targets. That's kind of crazy. over under for catches here is two and a half. I like it. Like, the whole reason I like T. Higgins is not that he needs to get thrown the ball more. He's getting thrown the ball enough right now to certainly surpass 58 yards. But just looking how often C.J. Zom is getting the ball. I mean, two and a half catches, that's kind of like higher than what he's been getting anyway. So, and also they're playing the Jets.

It's like, they're, you know, 10 point favorites. I think it's trending toward 11. So we'll see. I don't know if they need to go out of their way to get C.G. Osama of the ball more. Yeah, I agree. with you. Craig, are you in on the T. Higgins?

I can't remember. Did we already say that this? We were derailed by your cheating. Yeah. I'm so flustered right now because of that. But I actually almost listed the T. Higgins line as one of my own bets. So for that reason alone, I am in. T. Higgins is getting way too many targets.

And he had a shoulder injury to start the year. He seems to be healthier now. And, you know, maybe teams are going to start focusing on Jemar Chase a little more, and it'll give a little bit more room for T. Higgins. So I'm in on that The Uzoma under 2.5 I mean, God, it does feel easy, right? I mean, if he gets three targets a game,

he'd have to catch all three of those to hit the over. Playing the Jets. One game old season where CG Usomas had more than three targets. D.K., where are you at? The 2.5 thing, so like when the over-unders are really low, like, one and a half, two and a half. I don't know why, but they always scare me a little bit more than like the higher ones.

I don't know if that makes any sense or if that even like plays out in real time or in real life or whatever, but it does make me kind of nervous. The one game with more than three targets thing, though, it's just like, okay, I'm in, I'm in. That's how they get you. They know that you're like,

little number, oh, it's like that's how they get you. That's how the house wins. Bring down the house with me. Do you think this line is typically one and a half and he had a big game so they opted to two and a half? Yes, because he was the number one fantasy title last year. Yeah, people are talking about him now. Yeah.

All right, I'll go with you. Exactly what happened. All right, I'll go with you. I'm in there. All right, so we're group chatting on that. All right. I like it. By the way, Craig, sorry.

I kind of broke character earlier. I forgot to say for that reason I'm in. But for all these reasons stated before, I'm in on both. So are we, is this a parlay? Do they both have to happen? Or is this is kind of a fourth bet? No, no.

This is my first two propets. They just happen to be the same players in the same team. We have three group chats off the jump. You actually can't parlay players in the same team, which is annoying. Got it. I may make sense, but...

Wow. All right, Craig. Three group chat street, Craig. Don't screw it up. Okay, Sharks, welcome. Yo, yo. I am looking for an investment. I'm looking for you guys to join my team for week eight,

to bet against, to fade to short. Mike White, the quarterback for the New York Jets out of Western Kentucky, 26-year-old Mike White. His over under is 220 passing yards? That's like what Carson Wins is, every week, who also won an MVP one. Like, Mike White's playing the Bengals who are fifth in weighted

DVOA this year, or right now. Zach Wilson's only thrown for over 220 yards twice this season. Mike White. This feels high, folks. It feels very high. I don't know anything about Mike White. Could he get bench? There's nothing to know. Mike White never played a snap in the NFL until

last week. Could he get bench for Josh Johnson? I've never heard of this guy. Maybe. I mean, 220 feels ludicrous for a team that just shut down Lamar Jackson. They felt desperate enough to trade for Joe Flacco this week, by the way. Yeah, talk about like we look at what teams do and not what they say. Right. Yeah, that's pretty.

It's an indictment. I mean, yeah, I've been on this. I'm in on this. For all the reasons that you said, Craig, I'm in. I can't believe you mentioned Mike White. I have a different bet that I did not pick today, but this is perfect. I was staring. The other one that's so funny to me is that the Mike White over under for rushing yards is two and a half.

Two and a half, run. washing yards. Dick you just said like the small numbers. You're like, two and a half. So I was like, because I was like obviously smashed the over. I was like, how slow is Mike White?

And I realized I have no frame of reference for anything about Mike White. So I googled it. First of Michael White ran a 5.140 yard dash, which is like ninth percentile for quarterbacks. Yeah. But the other one, they do burst score.

Burst score is basically like your vertical jump and then your broad jump. And so they like take those together and it's like your explosiveness. Mike White you know what percentile Mike White is in explosiveness among quarterbacks

not even NFL players quarterbacks what first he's in the first percentile as a 99% of NFL quarterbacks are more explosive than Mike White

wow this is like a cousin Salbet the one cousin Salbat that he does every Super Bowl where it's like the fullback to have more than one and a half yards yes and I was thinking about like the two and a half yards

I went from like he's going to go over this. And now I'm like, you know what? They're going to tell them to throw the ball away because you can't get hurt or else we're going to have to play Joe Flacko. Okay, so what I wish, I'm sure somebody could find it out if they had the time, but I wanted to know what is the average immobile quarterback? Like how many yards are they run for per game? So I went to Matt Ryan was a good litmus test. So I went to Matt Ryan's pro reference.

And I just looked at his last like five seasons, you just kind of scrolled through. He runs for over two and a half yards. It looks like just scanning it in like two thirds of games. It's because all you need to do is like fall forward and you get like two and a half yards. You just run up the, you run up the pocket and fall forward. Well, and also it'll be swung on the rushing yards. I kind of want to root for him to rush more. I kind of want to go the other other direction with it just because I want to see this burst in action. I want to see him just lumbering, trundling for two and a half yards. That's what I want to see. Now I'm going to be rooting for it. That's the only reason I'll watch this game. I want to be over in the rush

but let me tell you something. With the Jets where they are and the Bengals surprisingly good on defense, Craig, Mike White over under 220, I'm absolutely in on the under. Absolutely. Let's ride, boys.

Generally speaking, when there's a quarterback, you like barely, like vaguely knew even existed is now starting. I kind of want the under. Vaguely, I literally have never heard of this guy.

I know. And when's the last time that happened where a guy came in and you've truly never heard of him? I don't know. He's 26, too. He's not like 23. This is the second time I mentioned this in a week. But Luke, the last comp for this, I think...

Well, you know what it is? It's David Blow for the Lions playing on Thanksgiving. Yeah. That's what it is. Because that was like, dude, no one knew you, and now, like, the majority of America, like, knows who you are. Oh, I don't think I knew who Ben Danucci was. Yeah, I definitely never heard of that guy either.

Dude, and his first start was against, like, the Steelers who had the most sacks in the NFL. That was brutal. Where did Mike go to college? He went to Western Connoxia. Kentucky. DK, I assume you're also in on Mike White

under 220 yards. 220 is high. Yeah. What is, isn't Sam Darnel this week like 240? Yeah, like,

what are we doing here? The two and a half rushing yards, though, is like the only thing I can think of is because he's literally never played an NFL football game,

like he's just going to drop back, no one's open and just maybe try and like scramble the pocket and run for three years. I'm gonna be on, I want to take the over

on two and a half rushing yards and the under on 220. This is fun. over two. Here's my only concern. In reality, Mike White is going to do whatever the hell he's told. Like, the way Mike White keeps the job is not necessarily playing great as much as he's not keeping the job. He's doing exactly what his coach is telling you to do.

No universe in which he keeps this job. Well, no, I mean for like over Josh Johnson. He's got a good name. He does. Well, I was looking at Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson's like actually kind of mobile. Like, Zach Wilson is like not fast, but like he's a pretty good athlete. Certainly not in the first percentile for burst. And Zach Wilson only had more than three yards once the entire season. Zach Wilson's got zero, 19 yards, two, negative two, three, zero. Like, if Zach, like, that's probably a coaching point. They're like, don't run.

So they're not telling Zach Wilson run. They're going to tell Mike White, don't you dare run. You throw that ball away. Yeah, this is funny. I guess I kind of realize I don't have any concept of like how much quarterbacks to like run. You know what I mean? Other than the mobile ones.

And you'll be, you'll be like, oh, he actually accumulates like 10 yards a game. We're skewed because even like the quarterbacks who, again, Patrick Holmes is a great athlete, but when he runs, does not at all look like a professional athlete. But even he still is like really good at getting like 14 yards at each other. Mike, I'm actually kind of want to go the under on both passing yards and rushing yards. I'm going to be on the edge of my seat trying to see what Mike White does when he drops back to pass. I cannot wait for this. Betting is the best. Makes everything interesting. Wow.

What a great adventure. You guys. All right. I love, I love scotch. Scotchie scotch, scotchy scotch. Scotchie Scotch. see bets, bets. We have only group chatted on every bet we've made so far. We're too nice today. If I can give us one serious piece of gambling advice for everyone listening,

you should parlay all of the things we're picking on the other side of the bed and you'll be like a millionaire. Like go against every group chat, parlay them together and you're going to make so much money. Right. Where are we? So I got two in. I got the Mike White. Wow. A lot of Mike White talk. That's the kind of red meat people look at this podcast. Mike White conversation. Can we talk about him for a little longer because that was fun. All right, let's talk about a player

that people actually know who he is. Justin Fields for the Bears, sharks. Sorry, there's a helicopter flying over my head. Sharks. Isn't it the plot of Shark Nato? I think those are called Air Sharks. I am looking for a $5 bet,

$5 investment on Justin Fields under 28 and a half passing attempts this week against 49ers. So Fields has gone over this number, over 28 and a half, one time this season in his starts. And that was last week against the Buccaneers team that jumped out to a 21 to nothing lead in the first quarter, is the past savings team in the NFL in terms of when they're in negative games, or sorry, in positive games scripts. In other words, even if they're kicking your ass, they just keep passing. Tom Brady, he's going for these passing records.

He doesn't give a fuck. He just wants touchdowns all day. And so the Bears ended up. up because even though they fell behind so far, they ended up having to, they played more plays than you'd expect because typically when you jump out to a 21 to nothing lead, teams are just going to run the ball. They're going to drain the clock. It's going to shorten the game. The opponent's going to have fewer plays, blah, blah, blah. In this case, Buccaneers just kept going, just kept going. That means the Bucks had more opportunities to have the ball. So I think that's going to change this

week against 49ers, who are a much more neutral game script type of team when they're winning. Um, they're also going to try and shorten the game by running because they have Jimmy G at quarterback. I think Shannon is just going to try and run the ball a lot. This isn't going to be a game that it doesn't look to me like a game. That's going to be a shootout. It's not going to be a high scoring game. There's not going to be a ton of plays. Chicago's offensive line has a massive disadvantage against, uh, San Francisco's defensive line in terms of pass pro.

And then all that together, I think they're going to, that the bear's going to try and run. Plus, I mean, what we've seen from fields this year, it hasn't been pretty. I don't think they're going to try and put this game on his shoulders in this week. They haven't done it all year long. I think they're going to try and run the ball with Calillo Herbert and avoid turnovers, things like that. Let's see, what else do I got here? San Francisco defense is bottom third and past attempts against this year. In other words, they're doing what exactly what I'm doing.

They're shortening the game, you know, trying to keep the offense, keep the opposing offenses from running too many plays, all that stuff. And generally speaking, just I don't trust Justin Fields to, like, put together. long drives and do and put together a lot of plays quite yet. I just think this offense is too much of a mess right now. Fields has averaged 21 pass attempts per game prior to that Timber Bay game. 21. And the over under here is 28 and a half. So.

Well, the other one, you said 28 and a half attempts. The other one I saw, Justin Fields is passing yards over under is 188. That's like 30 fewer than Mike White. What's going on here? Can you imagine Justin Field? That's where we are. Justin Fields has 30 fewer passing yards for the over under. Did Vegas think Mike White was someone different?

How is it 220? I'm not sure who they thought it was. This is probably evidence we're going to lose the bet for Mike. Bottom line. Bottom line. This offense is a disaster. I just simply don't think they're going to have enough drives and enough plays to get Justin Fields on this over. Thoughts? The Niners have held opposing quarterbacks to 190 yards or less three times this year.

Mm-hmm. My only issue is who are the Niners playing cornerback? Don't they have like Josh Norman and Drake Kirkpatrick, who are kind of doing super hot at this point in their respective careers? Yeah, Josh, I mean, obviously, I think the weakness of vulnerability for the 49ers is certainly at the cornerback position. Their defensive line is solid. I kind of feel, look, I could be misremembering.

I kind of feel like I saw Josh Norman make a couple of good plays last week or the week before. There's also one other problem with this bet, D.K., that you haven't addressed, which is Justin Fields over 28 attempts. No, I haven't under. I want under. Sorry, under. Here's the problem. Is Justin Fields and Alan Robinson

admitted this week that they're not happy with the passing attack, so they started zooming after practice to make up for the lost time. Zooming? They're on Zoom. They're talking overplays. So after practice, they go home and then get on Zoom?

They zoom now to talk things out. Because Alan Robinson basically kind of like said what didn't need to be said, but he was like, well, you know, when Andy Dalton was a starter, he's like, I basically had, Alan Robinson basically said he caught two passes from from Justin Fields in the pre in training camp like literally he was like a like single digit yeah and uh so now they're zooming to make up for lost time so my question decays does the zooming

scare you here do you think that could fix the bears offense no all right all right i'm in no not really um i will say zooming has really kind of taken our podcast to the next level however the pot doing this podcast and then running an NFL offense against an NFL defense is slightly different things. So I'm going to stick with no. The zooming will not help their offense this week. I am going to join the both of you once again. This is what number five? Fuck it. Let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this. This is never happened.

I'm in baby. Wait, actually, do you guys just agree on everything and I'm just in a good mood? Is that what's really, because maybe that's why we don't have good chats is. I'm just like, no. I wonder if we have, if somebody's ever kept stats on who went in on what bets. We never did that. I feel like. I think that we're supposed to do that. Please don't do that. It's like our job.

I think DK is probably the most agreeable. I'm in the middle, and then High Fids is probably the most disagreeable. 100%. If we were Goldilocks, that's exactly how it would be. DK's, yeah, yeah.

I don't like conflict. Come on. Besides, this is all like for fun. Okay, hyphen, $5. $5. I just, dude, I like Emmanuel Sanders over 55 receiving yards this week, man.

I mean, first of all, Sanders has hit this number with plenty of spare room for three of the last four weeks, not like a little bit. Like, he's hitting this number

over 55 yards. The Dolphins are bottom four and past defense to opposing receivers. Yeah. Fantasy points, a lot of expected fantasy, like all these different metrics.

Like, dolphins are starting a good defense right now. So the, the bills and the dolphins they played in week two, I think, maybe week three. I think it was week two.

Byron Jones, the cornerback for the dolphin shadowed Emmanuel Sanders a little bit. But per Tristan Cockroff, Byron Jones is one of the worst 15 cornerbacks by like a loud fantasy points.

He'd done that despite missing a game. Like, Byron Jones has missed a game. and still in the top 15 for what he's allowing. Also, he's dealing with, like, an Achilles injury and, like, a groin injury. So Byron Jones is banged up. Emmanuel Sanders is playing well. The bills are 13 point favorites, 13 and a half.

Everything here. I just like Emmanuel Sanders this week. Oh, this group chat streak comes to an end right here. I can see it on your face. I don't hate this bet, High Fitz. I'm just trying to think. So I saw on Twitter today, I cannot remember. I apologize who was talking about it.

but basically the bills, when they face man, like heavy man coverage teams, Stefan Diggs just goes off. So I'm kind of like thinking this could be a Stefan Diggs week. That doesn't mean I necessarily dislike Sanders. So I saw that as well, but my thing that dig, his overrun is really high.

It is really high. There's no value it or something like that. It's like 86 or something. Yeah. I'm going to go in on this because I agree with you. I think like the Dolphins defense has just been really, really underperforming. The bills to me are the type of team.

that two that's not going to really, you know, hold up in the second half even if they're winning. They're still going to continue to pass some and rack up points. They're buzz saw on offense. So for all those reasons, Hyfitz, I'm going to go in on this one with you. I got the agreeable one. What about the middle child? So the last time they played Miami, Emmanuel Sanders had two catches for 48 yards. The only thing that I don't know why I haven't been, I haven't really caught the Emmanuel Sanders bug.

I guess I always expected him to kind of be like be washed. but he's like 33 coming off in Achilles but he's been pretty good but Toss and Knox is hurt and is going to be out this week which will likely force the bills into more like 11 personnel a lot of more three wide receiver sets

and they actually have been running a lot of 12 this year which has kept Cole Beasley off the field so my thinking here is maybe they play a little bit more three and 11 personnel with three wide receiver sets the ball spread around a little bit more this game could get out of the hand quickly

DK's point about the man to man and Manuel Sanders target totals aren't huge. He usually averages around five or six a game. So for those reasons, I'm going to sit this one out. Oh. Oh, well. Oh, well. We had a good run. We did have a good run. Okay. Who's that me? That's, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Let's see what you're betting is. It's so freaking good. Try to be objective about this, all right? We're trying to make money here. No. Okay. I'll do a reset. Goofaba. Do a little reset. So, Sharks, I'm coming at you to go back to the Kyle Pitts well. I think we've bet him a couple times this year. the beginning of the year didn't pay off.

I think we bet him once later on in the year and it worked out. So his over under 62 and a half yards. It still feels kind of low to me. And I think it's... Yeah. Yeah. I have a theory.

This is not groundbreaking. But I think it's his designation as a tight end that will kind of force Vegas to keep his total a little bit lower than it should be. But in reality, Kyle Pitts is just a wide receiver. This season, he's lined up out wide more than any other tied end in the league.

He's lined up as an in-line tight end 12% of his snaps this year. I mean, he is legitimately just a wide receiver who sometimes pretends to play tight end. And the first three weeks of the season, he averaged six targets a year. That's when we were betting him. The last three weeks of the season,

I know Ridley missed one game, but he's averaging nine targets a game, and he's gone off. He's got two 119-plus-yard performances in the last two weeks, playing Carolina, middle-the-road defense. 62 and a half is low, I think, for a guy who's already fourth,

I think third or fourth in the league in tight-end yards. He's had a buy. So, Craig, I wrote about Kyle Pitts in my power rankings this week. Go read that every Tuesday. Yeah, Tuesday. Every Tuesday at the ringer.com. What a great website.

He, so on Sunday, Kyle Pitts, he got four passes for 113 yards when lined up on the outside, according to next gen stats, which is the all-time record for their database. I don't know exactly how farther database goes back, at least a few years. And also, according to next-gen stats, he has. caught 10 passes for 255 yards on vertical routes, which is way more than any other tight end. The thing you're saying about him being a receiver, I think, is really important here to remember because he's getting these explosive plays. It's not like they're just trying to, he's not trying to get like eight, six, seven, like seven yards pop on these little dump offs over the middle

of the field. Like he's going vertical. And he is winning at the catch point. Like with one-handed catches, he's absurdly talented. There's a reason everyone called him, the unicorn, coming out. Like, not only is he big, fast, and strong, but he has incredible body control and hand and eye coordination to catch off balance, passes in traffic, all that stuff. He can beat, he can beat press against corners. Yeah, he's just ridiculously good. And most importantly, well, not most importantly, and also importantly, Matt Ryan has been playing a lot better lately. So for all these reasons, I mean, because I think, I think Pitts is going to have, like, He really has an opportunity to finish the season on like a historic pace and be, you know, one of the better, if not the best tight end in fantasy going for it and in the NFL.

So yeah, I'm in. For all those reasons, I'm in. My only concern is I feel like Calvin Ridley might have a really big game. He had 26 yards last week, but is over under 74, which to me means that like the sports books also kind of think Calvin really is a big game. Having said that the whole point of prop bet sometimes is to just be in on a really exciting player. maybe it is too obvious to just be, oh, Carl Pitts will play great again. Realistically, on Sunday, I want to be rooting for Kyle Pitts. I don't want to be taking the under of Kyle Pitts.

I'm in. I think part of the reason I'm, I am trying to follow logic, Craig, and like be rational with going in or out of these bets, but also, like, it's fun to bet these things because it's, like, exciting. And we're typically picking pretty exciting players, especially Mike White. So I mean, like Mike White, I cannot wait to watch Mike White this week now. Well, also I was thinking, unfortunately, Mark Andrews is on a buy, and as far as I can tell, the Chiefs lines are not up yet.

But so Mark Andrews and Travis Kelsey are the only two tight ends who have more yards on the season than Kyle Pitts. However, Kyle Pitts on average, because Pitts has had a buy, is averaging more yards per game than both those guys. And I have to imagine that Andrews and Kelsey's lines are probably like 15 yards higher than Pitts every week. And I get that because he's a rookie and the other two guys have a lot of history. obviously, but I don't know. I think it's a little bit of a gap in the market that we're taking advantage of. This is an interesting game, the Cowboys, the Panthers, the Falcons game, because on what, like, the Falcons, the per game stuff over the whole season, you almost not throw out,

but like, there's so much better with play action over the last few weeks than they were in the beginning of the season, like the whole Arthur Smith taking Tennessee's offense and moving. It's like, it's starting to happen a little bit more, like they came out of the buy. You can start to see it, like Deke said Matt Ryan's playing better. I would say just the whole offense is better. So it's not... I don't see taking it over in Pitts as like,

oh, you're kind of buying like a great performance. It's more like this whole offense will probably just be better than it was in the beginning of the season when they were kind of bad. And Pitts, it's kind of just riding that wave. Maybe Arthur Smith is a good coach, after all. The flip side, though, is that I kind of a little bit worried about the Panthers defensive line,

maybe dominating the Falcons a little upfront on offense. But that's why I briefly considered a Mike Davis under just despite myself. But I thought about it. I guess it. I don't want to overhype Kyle Piss, but it's kind of the same deal with Jamar Chase. Like, both of these guys are living up to. And in some cases, like, insane.

This is insane to say, like, exceeding the hype. Because the hype was, like, incredibly high. It's the football version of Luca, Donchich, and Tray Young going back to back. I know they're not quarterback. So, like, no non-quarterback can never really be an NBA player in terms of influence. But it is what it feels like. we'll just look back for years and be like these two guys went back to back. That's crazy.

Cow Pits is so fun to watch. Speaking of another extremely fun player to watch, I got one for you guys. Sharks, I'm looking for a $5 investment on Tony Pollard going over 38 and a half rushing yards against the Vikings. I'm a little confused, to be honest, and I think maybe this is why I like this bet so much. Why is this so low? Tony Pollard has gone over this in every game over the last five weeks. basically ever since the cowboy started to use him. He has averaged, sorry, he's had 10 plus rushing attempts in each of the last five games going back to week two,

basically when they decided they wanted to use this guy a lot more. The Vikings are 10th in yards allowed to posing running backs. As I said earlier in the show, I think with Dak coming off of this calf injury, that they could end up using the run game a little bit more, not trying to ask too much from Dak, try to be balanced, try and get Zeke in there, try and get Pollard in there. Pollard is averaging six yards a carry in his last five games in those games they've really started to like utilize him in the offense.

He has averaged 11.6 rushes and 70.4 yards per game. His over under is 38. I just think I think he could get this in like one run. Like he's so explosive. He's so fun to watch. And he's getting like 10 carries a game. So I just, I don't know.

This one feels just like a cinch to me. But of course, you know, that's always the famous last words. But I don't know. I love Pollard going over this. this week. I think they're going to run the ball a lot. I think they're going to be effective running the ball. And I think Pollard is awesome. So I'm going for all those reasons. What do you think? What do you think? I really like this one. I think this is probably my favorite one that you've given out

today. And you go back to week two to talk about that stuff. I mean, week one doesn't even count because they played the buck. And literally, I think Zeke had like seven rushes. Like, yeah, they basically decided not to run the ball. Right. So if that was a normal game, they probably would have ran him a lot more. And, you know, they've said this many times, but, like, they want to keep Seek fresh for the playoffs because the Cowboys are really good this year. And Tony Pollard is really effective. And the Vikings are in middle of the road

run-stopping team this year. I think they're, like, bottom 10 in DVOA right now. This makes a lot of sense. Daxe calf injury comes into play here, 38 and a half. Like you said, two rushes he could get this in the first half. So I'm very much in.

I think in Lael Collins back this week, High Fitz, I know we've talked about this. I believe so. Well, they've got the, Tyrone Smith at left tackle, and I forget the name of the Vikings Edd Rush on that side, but I think he is literally

the worst run defender among starting players. That's from Seth Walder. Like literally the Vikings have the worst run deep defender on the edge. He'll be going against Tyron Smith, who when he's healthy

is like a top five left tackle. And then also Zach Martin, I'm going against Dalvin Thomas. I love Dalvin Thompson, but like can be, I think Zach Martin probably is the edge there in the run game. I'm not going to lie

when you first said Tony Pollard over 40, like, what was the 39 yards? I was like, what were you like? But you know what? You convinced me, DK. In solidarity is the theme of the day. I'm in. Are any of these not group chats? Do we have one non-group chat?

Yeah, mine. My Emmanuel Sanders one. Just that one. That's all right. Just that one. That probably means that's going to be the best one. I'm going to give you guys an extra one this week because last week we had the push with Sterling Sheppard who got hurt after we did the show.

So I'm going to add an extra one. You should give two extra ones because someone, one of the people you've given will also get her after this show. Just give four every week. Preemptive extra one. That actually is going to give four every week. I can give you a preemptive extra one if you want. But let me get this one off first.

Sharks, $5 bet. Elijah Mitchell over 14 and a half yards, longest rush against the Bears. He had two 14-yarders last week, plus a 20-yarder, so he went over last week on this number. And he had two that hit right under. The 49ers are the sixth best, the 49ers have the sixth best advantage in terms of mismatch

offensive line versus defensive line against Bears this week. Jimmy G is their starter, and that means Elijah Mitchell is going to absolutely dominate, I think, based on what we've seen in the past, absolutely dominate the rush share for the 49ers. With Trey Lance, if Trey Lance is the starter, he steals a lot of rushes. Jimmy G. does not do that.

And they basically have shown that they trust Elijah Mitchell to carry the load on the ground. So he's averaged 18 and a half rushes per game with Garapolo as the starter for this team. He has the speed. He's like a 4-4 guy. He has the speed to, increase and just get upfield. The Bears

are ninth this year in most explosive runs, sorry, explosive run rate surrendered 13% per sharp football. And so basically the combination of a high run rate with Mitchell plus the offensive line advantage plus just his speed and explosiveness and his ability to get downfield.

I don't know, I just kind of like this one. I think the longest rush thing is sort of just like random, but I don't know. I felt like this one in my gut. DK., I love you. I really do. I don't know how you just read that many numbers without mentioning the elephant in the room, which is Khalil Mack is not playing for the bears in this game. That too. That too. I was going to say, that helps. I did, I did take note of that in my head.

I don't know, but I should. I should have known that you would have, that would have put you over the top there. What do you think, though? Are you in? I cannot say that the longest rush is what I want to do here. I know, it's, I have no like idea if this is just a sucker bet. I'll be 100% honest on this. I just like this for some reason. I don't know why. Yeah, screw it. I'm in. The show is just everyone's like, fuck it, let's go. I think longest rush, longest catch bets are the scariest bets you can make. I hate rooting for them.

I feel the least confident in my decision every time I make them. While I love Elijah Mitchell, the bomb cyclone is what they should call him nowadays. But I can't do it. I'm so sorry, D.K., I'm out. That's all right. That's all right. This one's my bonus. And I acknowledge that it's just kind of like a, it's a little bit.

bit random. You know, I don't know. Like the, like you said, the longest catch, longest rush. I don't know. You know, it depends on a lot of stuff. But I'm just going for it. I'm going for it. Okay, sharks, my final bet. I'm going right back to it. We took a week off. It hit Derek Henry. It had never been higher. It's now back down. I want the over again. I want Derek Henry over 103 and a half rushing yards. It dropped 30 yards from last week. Holy shit. It was like, it was like, Craig, buy in the dip. It was like 1.29 and a half last week. Now it's 103. and a half versus Indianapolis. Well, it's because the Chief's run defense is terrible,

and the Colts run D, the Colts is much better. Yeah, I mean, whatever. The Colts just gave up over 100 to Eli Mitchell last week. I mean, it's Derek Henry. We're talking about 100 yards for Derek Henry. He's done it five out of seven times this year. Craig's a pump and dump. He's just pumping dump every week with, with, uh,

pumping dump and dump. This is like game stop. Derek Henry. We're going to get called from the SEC. I'm just going to ride this way, baby. Pumping and dump it. Drive it up and then take the under. All right.

One or three is low. So I just want to confirm. So there's, Craig, I got three words. I got five words for you. Derek, Henry, over. I'm in. God, that was, I was way too excited to see where that was going. And yeah, I refuse to go in with you on the under.

So for that reason, I'm back in with you on the over here. I mean, come on. Because I'm never betting against Derek Henry. I'm so excited for like seven of these nine bets to lose. The two non-group chats will hit. But we're going to have fun along the way, aren't we high fits? And that's what's really important. I just can't, do we have a single under on this list?

That's terrible. Mike White? Yeah, Justin Fields. Justin Fields is under. Mike White and Justin Fields under 28 and a half. In a weird way in my gut, I feel like the Mike White's going to hit the over on the passing arts now. I'm not changing my mind. We actually have a lot.

We have CJ Uzama under, Mike White under. Justin Fields under. That's not bad. Okay. All right. All right. Every single week I'm so torn between the unders win more and then also the unders that are good have terrible juice and also who like it's just life's too short and yet they always win. I bet the under last week on Matt Stafford passing attempts and then they had their highest rate of past highest passing rate game of the entire season.

But that makes sense though because the lions jumped them for the 10 point lead. I know. How could I have freaking guessed that the lions were going to have like a 10 to nothing lead like midway through the second half or second quarter? I was like, Jesus Christ. Speaking of the one I proposed, last week I proposed the moonshot bet where I took the money line for the Texans, lions, and bears.

And when the lions jumped out, 10-0-0, and then the Texans were up to nothing, I was like, oh, shit. You allowed yourself to help. And then I turned on the Bears game, and it was like, $2.0. I was like, God, damn. I love it.

Okay, long shots. D.K., you got a long shot for us this week. Yeah, I got a Cowboys and Buccaneers four-leg parlay here. So, I'm going to say the Buccaneers cover the spread this week. Hold on and I can't even remember who they're playing. It doesn't really matter. Oh, the Saints. Okay, so they're favored by. How could you forget? I know. Seriously. Sorry. Sorry. Okay. So Tampa Bay covers the spread. They're favored at four and a half right now. And then I'm taking the over on that game. So Bucks cover and the game goes over 50. And then in the Cowboys game, Cowboys Vikings, I'm taking the Cowboys to win the money line. And then, And I'm taking, this one I was not sure on, I'm taking the over on that 55.

Even though I think it is going to be more run-heavy game, I still think these teams are just too good on offense. And I think that they're going to score points. So with those four together, so Tampa Bay covering over 50 in that game, Cowboys win, and the over and 55 in that game, you get like 11 to 1 odds. So I kind of like that one. I'm just betting on the Cowboys and the Buccaneers who both are really good team. So the buck spread, bucks over. Cowboys money line, Cowboys over. Yep. No, game over, 55.

Yeah, sorry, the game over. Yeah. And you get 11 to one odd. So $5 bet gets me $62, baby. That's not bad. My only fear is that New Orleans holds Brady back a little bit. They kind of did it in all three times they played last year. They almost really beat the bucks three straight times last year.

There was that, didn't somebody, Jared Cook fumbled in the playoffs, right? And perhaps the Saints could have won that game. But my, my, yeah, my, my, only fears the under in that Buck Saints game might hit, but other than that, I like this bet. Word, word. All right, Craig, or Danny, what do you have? So I kind of broke the rules.

This is, I guess, my thing. I think the spirit of this is a bet you should make this week, which almost always is a bet you should make for this weekend. I love this. I love this bet. There's special circumstances. The Chiefs are 13 to 1 to win the Super Bowl. That was 4 to 1, like a month ago.

The theme of this episode is By the dip. By the dip. The Chief's hatred is out of control. They're going to thrash the Giants and it's going to go back. Like 13 to 1 to win the Super for the Chiefs. Here's the thing. I know that they might miss the playoffs.

They're almost in last thing in the division. They're going to make the playoffs. And if they win one playoff game, you're going to be really happy you have the Chiefs at 13 to 1 to win the Super Bowl. This is a phenomenal bet. I'm going to make this bet. I already have. Yeah, this one's funny because it's the Chiefs. Chiefs. So, like, it's the Chiefs.

But it's 13-0-1- because the Chiefs have been, like, pretty shitty this year. Like, the thing I like about it, too, is, like, they just have to make the playoffs. Yeah. If they win one playoff game, you can then start to hedge the bet by betting the money line or the other team. Like, they don't even have to win the Super Bowl for this to be valuable. Right. I agree. I mean, even if they make the championship game, you're kind of guaranteed money.

I don't know. I think that we're, yeah, it's just, the overreaction, just take advantage of it. I like it. There's six teams. ahead of them with better odds. There's seven teams that have better Super Bowl odds than the Chiefs right now. Yeah, that's insane. What a world. Okay, so I don't

have a long shot, but I'm going to use my moon shot as my long shot. So this week's moon shot, which is your $10 bet that could buy your new computer. What was it last week? So, oh yeah, it was your huge parlay. I money-lined the Bears, Lions, and Texans, none of which who won, but my thinking was basically, how often do you get in a window

of four games if three of those teams win, you get 600 to 1 odds. It's just very rare to get 600 to 1 odds on 3 I just kind of was into that. You mean 60 to 1? No, it was 600. I put a $10 bet down and you would in $6,000.

It was not 60 to 1. It was 600 to 1 for Texans Bears Lions to a lion. Oh, so it was I put down $20 with a friend and if we won, we were going to win $12,000 $1,000 on the $20. So when the lions were up 10, we were, and the

Texans were up in the lines at the same time. We were freaking out. So what is that? Plus 6,000? Or is that plus... It was plus 6,000. Plus 600 to 1. Oh, my God.

Okay, mine isn't that crazy, to be honest. Mine's not 600 to 1. But here's my... This bet is admittedly asinine, but I saw it. That's the whole point of the shit. And I was like, this is funny. Okay. So I found that you can bet on adjusted game totals, right?

So you can raise the game total or lower them. them. Okay, the Niners and the Bears. This actually works well that, that D.K. wants the under for Justin Fields. If you want to bet that the Niners Bears games goes under 17 and a half points, it's plus 3,800. So here's what I'm saying. Oh, so it's like 10 to 7. Yeah. 10 to 7. The Bears put up three points last week. The Niners put up like 13. That could happen this week. If it's 13 to 3, it's 38 to 1 odds. Ooh, that's pretty strong. It could be 10 to 7. It could be 13 to 3, 20 bucks. How much do you lose if you make it like 20? 20 and a half? It gets a lot worse.

17 and a half is like the only thing that's worth moonshot value, but you put 20 bucks down and you could win $760 if this is 10 to 7 or 13 to 3, 10 to 6. The bears have a good D. They can't score. The Niners also can't score. I don't know. I kind of like this. It's like this shitty game.

I mean, we saw the Saints Seahawks game. What was that 13 to 10? Like this is in the realm of possibilities here. Yeah. I like this. So that's what I'm doing. I mean, it buys you a shitty computer, but that's okay. I mean, it's no Mike White under two and a half rushing yards, but I like it.

You're not getting a MacBook with this. No, you're getting a Lenovo think pad. You can get the MacBook with the student discount. You're getting one of those weird things that you can, like, turn into a tablet. You still got the MacBook student discount? That was a thing if you were going to college back in the day. Spotify's got a great college student discount. I used that.

There you go. There you go. That all comes back to Spotify, baby. All right. last week's bets? Yeah. I mentioned the Matt Stafford. He did go over.

In fact, he was over the 32 and a half past attempts early in the third quarter, I think. So that didn't work out so hot. I got more wrong last week than I had the rest of the season combined, which was super not chill. You went over three for the first time. I had two wrong in the first six weeks

and I had three wrong last week. So that was super not great. D.K. We did hit Eli Mitchell going over 62 and a half rushing yards. Jalen Hertz went well over his eight and a half rush attempts. Derek Henry hit the under. I think the Derek Henry call like absolves everything else.

Yeah. You know, wash it. Yeah, let it go with that. Oh my God. Can you, there's like a motorcade outside. Another air shark. All right. Should we get to bad quarterback?

We're still over 50% by the way on the year for our props. And yeah. So we're making money still, kind of. Keep it going. Don't think about the juice aspect of it. Not as much as if the Texans lines embarrassed it all one. Okay. Bad quarterback league.

again, if you haven't been doing it with us, it's bad quarterback. Bad quarterbacks are good. Good quarterbacks are bad. The points are all negative, where they're usually positive and interceptions and fumbles are great. So let's look at it this week. Join us on Fando.

Go to contest, NFL, scroll to the bottom. You'll see Bad Kube League. Game styles, bottom, presented by the ring or bad quarterback league. There's some juicy ones. There's some juicy ones in Tier 1 here. Mike White, baby.

So there's... That's... So there's a spoiler alert. So there's six tiers for the quarterbacks. Tier one, it's Mike White for the Jets against the Bengals. There's Davis Mills for Houston against the Rams. Justin Fields against the Niners and then Gino Smith against the Jaguars. This is the worst tier one there's ever been, I think.

Part Gino. So the obvious choice is Mike White. My only galaxy brain is that the Jets are probably saying, don't do anything. Whereas Justin Fields just kind of turns the ball over. Don't do anything. Too much, do less. The Kuna, Kunu. Yeah, Mike White was the obvious one.

I went with Davis Mills, though, because I have a longstanding rule that I am absolutely never going to go against, and that is picking the team that is picking the quarterback that's going up against Aaron Donald. I'm picking Mike White. I'm picking Mike White.

Davis Mills against Aaron Donald or Mike White just existing. I can't pick, I have to pick Mike White. I don't know if I'll ever get this chance again. I'm picking the guy who's literally never played football before. I'm going to pick up. I'm picking the guy we have actually never heard of before.

Okay. Wow, I heard that, Hyvetts. What's going on out there? I think Joe Biden's flying to Rome. Something's happening. Is that the motorcade going by you? Yeah, no, it's Joe Biden has to catch a plane, I think, is what's going on. All right.

Tier 2 is Jimmy Garoppos against the Bears, Case Keenham for the Browns against the Steelers, Jared Goff for the lines against the Eagles, Sam Donald for the Panthers against the Falcons. Baker, no, sorry, Baker's not playing. He's listed as a backup. Baker's playing. I thought Baker is on track to play.

Whichever Brown's quarterback is going against the Steelers. I can't, I don't know, for sure. He was a limited participant in practice Baker with. It's Baker and or Case Keatom against the Steelers. Yeah. It's this tier. Craig, what did you do here? I'm going to go with Sam Donald on the road because this man could get benched

like he did last week. And I don't know. It's starting to really go downhill for Sammy D here. And bad face. I'm not doing Jared Gough because I think the Lions could beat the Eagles and I think the lines

spoke being a long shot I mean it's not a long shot but like the Lions money line like plus 160 I think it's a really good bet this week so I'm going with Darnold I want with Darnold also just because meltdown

the meltdown effect he has that he has that ability to just completely like he gets in his own head you know what I mean like you can tell when he's out there that he starts to like be like

oh shit the whole seeing ghost thing it's coming back it's not like Atlanta's defense scares me. It's just, it's Donald. It's Donald. By the way, the Jets fans in my life, Ryan O'Hanlon, my former editor at The Ringer,

we still text about Sam Darnold constantly. And he was like, I beat him in fantasy last week. And he was like, Sam Darnold's sucking is greater than losing to you. Like, he was just so happy that Sam Darnold is still not good. Because, I mean, just imagine as a Jets fan. Like, if he went to Carolina and immediately was awesome, like, that can't feel great.

So anyways, yeah, same darlings. It's not very good. That's a good call. Yeah, I almost did. I almost did. The shoulder thing. He could get knocked out of his game pretty quickly. It's pit, yeah.

Tier three is Trevor Lawrence against the Seahawks, Ben Rothesburg against the Browns, Taylor Heineke against Denver, Teddy Bridgewater against Washington, James against the Bucks. I think I need to take James. I cannot not take James Winston against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

James. They just don't ask him to pass very much. I guess that could be a good thing. he is James gets the Gunu treatment It's either James or Ben You're doing too much Ben going up against Miles Garrett on the road

It's pretty rough Yeah that's not great either I didn't even think of that I put I have Taylor Heineckee here Just because he he's like The yolo ball guy in this group now James Winston is like Actually not throwing picks which is weird

Taylor Heineckee He'll just huck it He doesn't give a shit But I do like the Ben Rothsberger one Against Cleveland shoot I think I'm changing mine to I'm changing mine to Ben Okay I really want the Steelers to win

So I don't want to put any bad juju on that game So I'm gonna pick James The irony is that juju is kind of bad Oh Good all right Tier 4 Mac Jones against the Chargers Two against Buffalo Tana Hill against the Colts

Matt Ryan against the Panthers Wentz against Tennessee So wait I think we need to congratulate a couple guys We should maybe talk about like promotions And Demotions and the bad quarterback league Macs made it from tier one to tier four Pretty big. Seven weeks.

So I think Tua might have been Tier 1 or 2 now tier 4. Good for him. Carson Wentz, tier 4. A lot of risers in this group. Good job, guys. I'm going Tua, though. The Bills defense is so good.

They're coming off a buy. Give me two against the bills. I am too, yeah. I feel like Tua's been playing better. So he's had a couple of atrocious picks over the last few weeks. In this season, he's got a few really, like, just ugly-looking picks

where he basically just, like, throws it to the wrong team. But I'd say overall, he's looked better, I think, than people are giving him credit for based on, especially when you kind of like take it in context, like he's, a lot of his players are,

a lot of his skill players are out right now, their offensive line is a mess. The defense is a mess. They're generally just a mess in general. I think he's been better than advertised, but I am going with Tua in this one too. I'm going, Carson Wentz. Everyone's too hot.

I'm pivoting. Zig. I'm zigging here. Zick, well, everyone's zagging here. Everyone's like, oh, Colts are good now. Carson Wentz. I've actually been watching Carson Wentz. He looks fine. He's had a lot of lucky deep balls that Michael Pittman just like ripped through and ran to the end zone. Just the mosses people. Yeah. So I'm taking Wins. Tier 5. Joe Burrow against the Jets,

Justin Herbert against the Patriots, Kirk Cousins against Cowboys or Jalen Hertz against Joe Burrow making Tier 5. Look at that. Look at our boy. I'm going Jalen Hertz. And I understand that he runs. I get that. I feel that. However, he was objectively the worst player in this group, right? This is the bad quarterback league. He's not that he's the worst quarterback in this group. He is the baddest quarterback. I want Justin Herbert because there's always a chance

Bill Belichick can just break someone's brain. Wow. Do you think that, do you think New England can win this game? Do you think they will win this game? That's how my dad ask every question when we ever were talking. He's like, can they win this game? And I'm like, yeah, of course they get his football. It's possible.

It's literally possible. Yeah. I'm going to take, um, Jalen hurts. Losers. Who you got? Tier 6. Dak against the Vikings.

Matt Stafford against Houston. Tom Brady against the Saints. Josh Allen against the Dolphins. Wow. I want Brady. I think it's Dak against the Vikings because these are all guys are really good and one of them as a calf injury. Yeah.

I'm going to go with that guy. That's what I did too. I think it's like a volume play here. He's going to have the fewest pass attempts. But you need pass attempts in order to get points. I feel like in tier six, you're just trying not to get points. get negative 48 points.

I agree. Like, Dak feels like the least likely candidate to, like, just blow up. Like, he does sound like he'll be limited. Like, he'll still play, but, like,

it does sound like, you know, I don't know if it'll be his mobile. I'm going Brady on the road in New Orleans. I don't know. They've done such a good job on him the last three games

they've played, so I'm going to stick to it. Brady's, Brady's worst game this year in the Bad QB League is negative 10. It'll be a very interesting test of whether the Saints are actually. One of the prop bets I considered was Mike.

Evans under 71 yards against Marshall and Lattimore because Marshall Lattimore was like sucked like shut down Mike Evans for so many matchups. But it's also like the Bucks played the Saints week one. Brady didn't huddle with his team the Bucks until like August 2nd last year. And then they were playing the Saints like September 5th. This is like such a different matchup. Like I'm just, I'm interested to see if the Bucks destroy them or not. Okay.

That's all we got. those are our lineups. We were doing a green room on Sunday at noon, Eastern. I don't know. I'll be there. You two will be doing that.

Thanks for covering for me. I am going to do a green room on Monday night after Giants Chiefs on Monday night. It's going to be super sad. We're going to talk about Daniel Jones and the Chiefs crushing us. That'll be super fun.

And then we're also doing green room on Sunday during the games, 7 Eastern, 4 Pacific, during the 4 o'clock window. That'll be fun. And then other things to plug. Five stars. Five stars. Give us those, give us those stars.

You can do give us those, we love those stars. I have a confession. I can't see the stars on Spotify anymore. It's because you weren't chosen. It's not for everyone yet. I did have it and then they took it away from me. It's like Willie Wonka. Check if you have the golden ticket.

Yeah. So if you don't see them, it's a rolled, it's a, they're rolling it out. But email us and ring your fantasy football, Gmail.com. Apple Podcasts also. Email us on your thoughts for stars or anything else. Showdown time, trivia. anything you want. All right.

Thank you, everyone. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you to everyone emailed us this week. Thank you, Lorne. Thank you. The Budos Band.

I don't know who that is. Craig is losing his shit with me right now. He's just, he's like, I'm done with you. I'm done with yours. I'd rather things we have to Google instead of him just saying Taylor Swift for like the fourth time. I agree.

That is nice. The Budo's band is an American instrumental band from Staten Island. It's good work music. music to listen to whilst you're working whilst working whilst out loud whilst I don't even know if I can pronounce it

I've only seen it whilst whilst whilst you guys want to hear what the genre is described as per Wikipedia it's like it's like 15 different things Doom rock Afro soul big band with a 70s touch that is six that's very specific

I got it I get it now yeah I got okay hold on let me see what the the song that you should listen to is it's T-I-B-W-F the best like the most I

BWF yeah okay oh the music it's an acronym of something lava flowing okay

sure okay great all right there we go goodbye good talk good talk see out there