The Ringer NFL Show - Start or Sit Kyler? Plus, Lockett’s Comeback and Week 14 Playoff Bold Predictions.
Episode Date: December 11, 2020Fantasy playoffs are here, and we lead the show with the hottest question on everyone’s mind: Do I actually sit Kyler Murray this week? Then we offer up our gut calls and bold predictions for the We...ek 14 slate, look back on our Week 13 predictions, build our million-dollar daily fantasy lineup, and rule on a Fantasy Court case. Start or Sit Kyler Murray (1:35) Week 14 Predictions: J.D. McKissic, Washington (10:20) Michael Pittman, Colts (12:20) Myles Gaskin, Dolphins (13:50) Jamison Crowder, Jets (17:15) Allen Lazard, Packers (19:50) Matt Stafford, Lions (22:52) Curtis Samuel, Panthers (27:47) Mike Williams, Chargers (31:24) Tyler Lockett, Seahawks (36:49) Million-Dollar Lineup (47:04) Fantasy Court (50:12) Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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On today's episode of the Ringer Fantasy Football Show,
we make a definitive ranking on where Kyler Murray stands this week.
Plus, we also go through her playoff predictions for week 14,
including Matthew Stafford's post-Patricia explosion,
Tyler Lockett's bounceback,
and all the fringe receivers you can trust this week.
We also give you our million dollar lineup,
which this week is going to be a $2 million lineup,
and an ode to people named Toby.
Stick around.
Welcome to the Ring of Fame.
fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hyfitz and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig
Horlebeck. Are you guys ready for a fun fact? Yes. Okay, this comes to us from Mike.
The fingerprints of a koala bear are so indistinguishable from human beings that they have on
occasion been confused at crime scenes. How many human koala crime scenes are there going on?
That was my question. How often has this happened? Is there a database of koalas? How often are
koala bears involved in crime.
Just like a bunch of koala bandits.
All right.
Well, speaking of crimes, we're trying to keep
Kyler Murray's fingerprints off your fantasy losses right now.
Ooh, nice.
So we know we've gotten into Russ and Kyler a bit,
but we're still getting a lot of emails,
and we just want to settle this once and for all.
We're going to go through just a quick name game.
I feel like Kyler is the biggest question for fantasy playoffs.
So we're going to go to a quick name game of who you guys would
would not start over Kyler Murray.
And then we're going to go through our gut-gut-bolds.
We're a little worried about Kyler because there's been reports that his shoulder is injured.
He's not running as much.
His running attempts per game have gone way down.
Honestly, screw the reports.
We've watched him play.
The man is injured.
He's handing the ball off rather than running.
And that floor, that rushing floor that he had throughout the first, you know, like 10
games, I guess, or whatever it was, was just so exceptional.
That's what made him like an amazing.
amazing fantasy option.
And now it's just basically
his passing,
which has been really hit or miss.
And it's three games since the shoulder injury
are the worst three games
has had all season, basically.
And he's going up against the New York Giants
who have been really good.
They just kind of stymied Russell Wilson.
And, you know,
if you have Kyler for your fantasy playoffs
in week 14, obviously this is winner-go-home time.
So if you're kind of peeked over to the waiver
and you see some guys,
we're going to try and help you make that decision.
So I couldn't hear you before, Craig.
Did you say the Giants have been really a what?
they've been good
they've been solid
I just want to make sure
I heard that right
all right
so Kyler
let's just go
through the top here
so the
the crem de la crem
Aaron Rogers
Mahomes
we're not even
going to talk about it
right
I mean if you have them
both
I mean
what you have
I don't want to be hearing
from you
if you have
both those guys
his options
Josh Allen
I mean yes
right
he's playing against
his steers though
I would play
Josh over Murray
okay
Russ
he's going to get
the Jets
so it's obviously
right
Russ hasn't been
good
but he hasn't been
as bad
And it's because of the, exactly because of the opponent this week, I think it's the big thing.
Deshawn Watson, going against the Bears.
Yeah.
Yes, easy.
You have to, yeah.
Herbert going against the Falcons.
I think so.
Yes.
Lamar against the Browns.
The only reason why I stop here is because the weather is supposed to be bad.
And I know Lamar's not like slicing people up with his arm lately anyway.
But if it's like some rainy, muddy mess, I still go, Lamar.
I would too
42 degrees in raining
on Sunday in Cleveland
What is with the Cleveland weather
What the hell
I thought weather planet
Was supposed to be getting hotter
Wasn't the rain supposed to stop
I guess I would still go with Lamar
I guess
Okay
Tom Brady
So he's got
He's playing Minnesota
And they're coming off a bye
Hmm
He's probably feeling good
He's probably got the vaccine by now
He's a little older
He's old enough to qualify
This might be kind of hot
But I think I lean Brady
I mean, I think I'm kind of, I'm bullish about Brady this week because the Vikings can't really pressure and I'm kind of dubious.
And Brady's just been day and night without pass rush.
And I'm pretty, I'm pretty interested about, I mean, you know, it's almost a little too neat and tidy.
But them having the buy week to get their shit together in Tampa Bay, not getting the pressure.
I'm kind of, I think I'm Michael Brady over Kyler.
Is that crazy?
I think I agree.
I think I'm with you.
The only thing that worries me, just the slightest bit about Brady is Evans, Mike Evans, Mike
Evans is not practiced the last two days because of a hamstring injury, I believe.
So he is questionable going into this week.
I'm not sure if that even matters, though, to be honest.
All right.
Tassum Hill.
At Philly.
Who's probably going to play for the Saints?
I'm going to, I'm going to Hill.
Good God.
You're not?
He's uncomfortable.
He doesn't want to say it.
I think this is where I'm starting to waver here.
Tase him?
Hi Fitz, what do you think?
I would go Tasem Hill.
If he's playing, I want Taysam Hilling.
He's put up 20.
24, 18, and 23.
Here's the difference to me.
He had 85 rush more than five times.
So, here's the, so Kyler said this to reporters this week.
So Damon Heward, of all people, remember like Damon Heward, the old backup quarterback guy?
Oh, yeah.
Apparently, he called out Kyler this week.
Anyway, the point is, Kyler responded, and he told a whole gaggle of reporters.
My shoulders, quoting Kyler here, my shoulder's fine.
As far as running the ball goes, it's pretty obvious if you watch the game that if the opposing
defenses make me hand the ball off, I have no choice but to hand the ball off.
I don't know what you want me to do.
Do you want me to pull it and run into like a defensive?
They're making hand the ball, so that's what I have to do.
And it's true.
It's what we're talking about.
The early parts of the season, he was running all the time,
and now defense is kind of recommitted to having him hand the ball off
because they're not as afraid of Kenyon Drake breeding them as Kyler.
Although Drake, and that's why Drake's numbers have been a lot better recently.
So I think the question is how the Giants are going to handle them.
I'm just confident to Jason Hill is probably going to get more carries than Kyler in this game.
So I would pick Hill, actually.
Yeah.
But that's probably the line for me, though.
Let me throw out a few more, just, and you guys can say, like Matt Ryan against the Chargers.
No, I want to her.
Matt Stafford against Packers.
I like Stafford a lot this week.
Or Cousins at Tampa Bay.
No, I want Couss has been ball in lately.
And not only that, the bucks in the last five weeks have given up the most points to quarterbacks.
This is where we go through the line of like, are you really going to spend the next six months of your life thinking about how you lost your fantasy playoffs because you started Kirk Cousins over Kyler Murray?
Kirk is the guy where it's like, no, I can't, I won't be able to sleep at night anymore if I get this wrong.
Okay.
So, but like, to be honest, in reality, most teams probably don't have two quarterbacks on their team.
If they do, then good job, like preparing for the future.
But the guys that are going to be on the waiver wire are guys like cousins, potentially, Stafford, maybe, Philip Rivers, who's playing the Raiders, Derek Carr, going up against Indianapolis.
You're not starting any of those guys over Kyler Murray who got you to this point, right?
I don't think so.
I don't think so. Look, I love the Giants, but it's not like the Giants are some invincible foe.
And also, let's remember here, it only takes one run for Kyler Murray to completely, like, give the floor back.
Just because he hasn't been running as much the last few weeks. It only takes one little 20-yard scamper to completely get him back into where you need to be.
So I-
How do you feel about the Giants Cardinals game in general? The Giants over the last five weeks have allowed the third-leased points to quarterbacks.
Yeah, so here's the thing. I'm one of the first.
that's true. On the other hand, it's like the list is
Russell Wilson, which is the one we're all remembering.
And then before that, who did they play? They played the Bengals
with, I mean, Brandon Allen,
and then it was like Washington with Alex Smith. It's not
the finest group of quarterbacks they were playing
before the Seahawks. So
that's the caveat. I would say that
the Giant Stevens has been good for a while,
like when they played the Bucks on Monday to Football
and they almost won that game. They almost won that game.
They almost won that game. Came down to, like,
the last play of the game. That was legit.
That game is included in the last five
weeks ranking. It's Brady. It's
Alex Smith. It's Carson Wentz. It's
whoever the Bengals quarterback was and it's Russell Wilson.
It's not the worst. I mean, it's pretty average.
They're good, but they're not.
I'm a little worried of going too far the other way here
and pretending that they're invincible and you should bench Kyler Murray
because they're awful.
So we're essentially saying you have to start them.
There's no one in the waiver wire we like.
Payson Hill is likely not on the waiver wire.
You got to play them.
Oh, God.
I think, like, yeah, I agree.
I think you play them assuming that none of those guys that we like more are still out there
or you have them on your roster.
if you do have any of those guys that we liked more on your roster,
then I think it does make sense to go for it.
But I'm not just picking up some rando on the waiver wire
and starting him over Kyler.
I'm not that low on Kyler at this point.
The one guy I'd throw out there is,
how do we feel about Tanna Hill or Kyler Murray?
You think, is Tanna Hill out there?
Well, no, he's probably not out there.
Yeah.
You never know.
If he is, yeah, I would go Tana Hill then.
But I doubt he is.
Okay.
All right.
So you're probably going to have to play Tyler Murray.
Sorry.
Pretty much.
He'll probably be great.
and the Giants will probably lose it, I'll be sad.
So, yeah, if you're thinking about Kirk,
or if you're thinking about Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan, don't do it.
Okay.
Let's get into gut-gut-bolts for the week.
Play-off week.
Play-off gut-gut bowls here.
So this is a big deal.
D-K.
Channel.
Get in sync with the Earth's circadian rhythm.
I've been eating a lot of yogurt to try and get, like, my gut right?
What's the...
You got all your crystals?
Oh, your probiotics.
The probiotics.
Because your gut bacteria.
This is important.
You need diverse gut bacteria,
and they actually think that that's a huge part.
of digestive issues and even weight loss.
I learned a lot about this when I had a kid
because like it's very good for your kids to have
I don't know what it is.
A diverse, a lot of bacteria in their gut
because it's like very good for their human body.
You're giving Calvin little scoops of dirt.
That's part of the reason like whatever.
Just let them eat whatever.
Yeah, it's good.
It's a worm.
That's why I eat like shit.
As long as they're not going to choke on it, it's fine.
But anyway, I get my gut right.
And I feel good this week about
none other than J.D. McKissick for Washington
because, and I wouldn't have said this
if Antonio Gibson hadn't injured his toe, but it does not look
like he's going to play this week. And
Washington had been trending towards
Gibson as their main guy. He was getting a lot more
work. He was obviously breaking out in terms of his fantasy points
and all that, and McKissick was falling into the background. But
with Gibson out, it's going to be a rotation with him
and Peyton Barber. And he's going to be getting, at least in half
PPR and PPR league's far more valuable
usage in the passing game.
If you go back
five games, over the last five games,
he has a 24%
target share, which is best among all
running backs, according to area arts.com.
He has the second highest
Whopper, which is weighted opportunity rating
among all running backs in that stretch.
He had 10 targets last week against
Pittsburgh. He carried the ball five times
for eight yards. That doesn't really matter.
Obviously, he's not going to be a big part on the ground,
big part of the ground game. But
I mean, just, he's basically a receiver in that offense and you get those target.
You get that target share.
You get, you know, as much as High Fitz hates it, man, he's going to get these swing passes that you're going to get you points.
And those will build up over the game.
I think it gives him a good floor.
So I'm going 12 plus half PPR.
I'm starting him in a few leagues this week and I'm really hoping for the best.
Yeah, I think you should start him too because he's the man who's broken PPR leagues.
He's going to have 11 catches for 45 yards and get you 16 points.
The perfect example of Hyfitz's hatred of PPR.
To be clear, I don't actually hate
Chating Kissick. He's actually kind of exciting player.
I just, there's nobody that you're watching.
I can't remember the last player
who I remember thinking is having less of an impact
than the actual flow of the game while wrapping
and he does get first downs. I don't want to
completely belittle his impact, but
this is a, this is a
begrudgingly, I'll admit I like this one.
All right. So, yeah, 12 plus
half PPR.
Craig, what's your gut call of the week?
I'm going with Michael Pittman is startable
this week. He should be on your fantasy
playoffs team. So the Colts are playing Oakland.
The Colts, I should
say, because I can't shake them.
Also, they're not Oakland. Oh,
yeah, crap, sorry. Vegas.
Bay Area bias.
Whatever.
Yeah, so Pitman
last four weeks was really good, right?
He was looking pretty promising. He had like two
back-to-back 15-point weeks. Everybody was kind of like
this is the next rookie wide receiver
is going to take off. And then he had two slow weeks
because Tywyllton, you know, shook
off his rust. And
kind of put in two great weeks, but I don't know. I mean, I think they can coexist one, especially
against the Raiders who are giving up like the fourth most points per game in the league. Also,
during this Tywy Hilton, like, comeback period, Pittman's only had two less targets than him.
So it's not like he's completely falling off the face of the earth. He had like a drop or two
last week that kind of made his stat line look worse. He's still the biggest player for the
Colts, like on the field. He's going to be a red zone target. I just wouldn't be worried.
I think you should stick with him as your wide receiver three or your flex this week.
weeks ago in week 12, he had nine targets and only had two catches.
So the volume is still there.
It's just consistency.
No, he doesn't suck.
He's good.
No, he has been good.
I like this too.
I actually think Philip Rivers is like,
could have a pretty sneakily good game.
Rivers has been sneakily good.
Yeah.
So I like this one.
So I'm going with also 12 half ppr points.
Sweet.
I think Miles, so on your note for flexing and should be started,
is Miles Gaskin, Dolphins running back.
I think he's the top 20 running.
back this week. I think that you can pretty safely play
him. I mean, you got 21 carries last
week coming off injured reserve. I mean,
it's amazing to me how the dolphins just
trust this guy so much.
He is, he's young.
He's like, what is he? A rookie seventh
rounder, but Miles Gaskin
just gets all their goal line carries.
He just, and also... He doesn't convert him.
Well, not yet.
But the dolphins don't want
to be passing in the goal line
situations. It's so clear to me that
Brian Flores seems to have
kind of issued a verdict of
like we are not throwing interceptions in the end zone
like they're putting the ball on the ground
he gets a lot of high so it's not just getting a lot of carries
it's that when they're in the goal to go situations
Miles Gaskin's getting the ball
and I love that because they're going against the chiefs
so I think that first of all
the dolphins played a lot better in this
their offense played a lot better in the second half last week
they went to like this kind of up tempo
faster pace offense to get two are going
and it worked he had like 160
170 passing yards just in the third quarter
and obviously when the offense is moving, that's a good thing.
So Gaskin, he lined up as a receiver one play, like out wide.
He had a big catch.
I like his ability to stay on the field.
I think that the dolphins have a better than you think chance to stay in this game with Kansas City.
And I really like Miles Gaskin's chances for a touchdown in this game.
So I think he's super flexible.
Well, I mean, well, I don't know if he's flexible, but you should flex him.
I assume he's flexible.
He's a professional athlete.
Amazing amount of yoga.
Incredible.
I was perusing FantasyPoint.com.
and they have a running chart that tracks expected fantasy points.
So expected,
I don't know exactly how it works,
but in terms of what they put into this equation,
but it's the amount of points you're expected to get,
based on your usage in any given game.
Gaskin ranks 12th among all players this year,
among all skill players.
That's wild.
I think the tracks with the goal line carries, though.
Yeah, and he's actually not getting,
he's not hitting his expected fantasy points.
He's one of the players that fall short,
and I think it's a lot based on the fact
that he's just been stuffed at the goal line a bunch of times.
So like he said, it could come this week in bunches,
but I really like him, too,
just based on the fact that you're guaranteed to get a lot of carries.
Well, not guaranteed, but he could get hurt, I suppose,
but you have a good chance.
I don't want someone to, like, quote me on that, you know?
Dark Niles, Danny.
I think most people who have Miles Gaskin on their team are starting them.
Right?
I mean, he puts up, like,
12 or more every game.
We got a couple emails this week
questioning.
I'm just saying he's got to,
I think he's got to be
in your flex if you're thinking about it.
He's not a name.
He's not a big name.
No, he's not.
He came back and played,
but they had a lot of injuries last week.
I think there is some validity
to this being a gut call
because, like,
we don't really know exactly
how this dolphin's backfield
is kind of, like,
line up.
And I think any team playing the chiefs,
maybe like a fantasy manager gets nervous.
I think it's going to be a blowout.
Gaskin won't get a lot of carries.
So I can see people debating sitting him.
Hyphitz, what's your benchmark here? What are his numbers?
I just said top 20 running back, but I mean, I'd be happy to just instead just go line
touchdown and be like screw it to, you know, stick it to DK.
No, no, whatever you want, man. Top 20 RB, sure.
Sure. That was so passive, aggressive. You're saying you want to say?
No. No, no, that's totally fine, man. Good for you. Mr. Kelly, you're up.
All right. So I'm going to stick with players that probably annoy Hyphitz for being good fantasy players,
but Jameson Crowder of the Jets.
I thought you were going to say Marquis Brown.
Oh, no, I'm off that.
He's in the book.
I'm done with that.
He has been pretty good the last two weeks.
You mean Bakersfield Brown?
Although I also kind of like North Hollywood Brown
as suggested by our record colleague Riley McAtee.
Yeah, like if he has a decent game.
What was the Florida town that Kevin gave us?
Kevin Clark suggested.
It was, oh my God.
It was something so like awful.
It was hilarious.
Was it Oldstown?
We'll come back to it.
Anyways, so for Crowder this week.
Crowder kind of, to me, he was really good at the beginning of year.
He got a hamstring injury, ended up missing a few games.
And then when he came back, he was very unreliable.
He had like two really bad games.
And I kind of went off of them.
I'm like, okay, this offense has changed when he was away.
Now they have perimen.
Now they have Mims.
They're pushing the ball down the field.
And I was just like out on Crowder.
And then, of course, last week he came back and had two touchdowns.
But the thing that worries me is they still wasn't getting a ton of targets last week.
He just got, I think he had like four targets.
He had two touchdowns, so it's just a little iffy.
But now with Mims out, Mim's has a personal issue this week.
I'm not sure.
I haven't heard what it is, but he's going to miss this game.
And I think that makes Crowder really interesting against the Seahawks defense.
I mean, the CX defense has improved, it's still not great.
And traditionally, and Pete Carroll's whole like spiel is don't get beat deep.
Don't let players beat you deep.
Keep everything in front.
So I think that Crowder is just going to get peppered.
I think the plan is going to be, you know, make him dump it off, rally to the ball tackle.
And that's kind of like their thing.
Also probably the Jets' new philosophy, too, don't get big deep.
Yeah, I would think so.
So anyways, yeah, I think I'm guessing, you know, based on everything we know, I'm one of those Seahawks fans who's like, even this game worries me.
But I'm guessing the Seahawks are going to take a big lead early on.
And then it's going to be a lot of garbage time for Darnold.
And so that, to me, it makes Crudder another.
It just makes me feel better about Crowder.
So going back to last week, I'm taking the over on his 9.5 projection this week on Yahoo in half-p-P-R.
Okay.
I like that too.
Also, the random Florida town that Kevin Clark suggested was named Pilotka.
And then also there was spuds.
Oh, Spuds.
Actually, Spuds is a good one.
Spuds Brown.
So Marquis Spuds Brown.
I kind of like that, actually.
Although I like North Hollywood, Brown.
I unironically like that.
Yeah.
Okay, so you got Jady McKissick and Jameson Crowder, D.K.
Craig.
The PPR gods, or half PPR, I guess, in this case.
Nothing like picking a jet to take you to the Promise Land.
I'm going with, I think Alan Lazzard is playable this week versus Detroit.
You and Alan Lazzard?
This is good because I have Alan Lazzard and I'm waffling on playing them or not.
Convince me.
All right, I mean, we'll see how I can do here.
So they're playing Detroit, who's been just kind of,
getting eviscerated on all fronts, really.
Luzard's been, he's been okay, right?
He's been getting worked back slowly.
He had that, like, muscle core injury or whatever.
So last week, he played, like, 70% of the snaps.
It was his highest since he got hurt, which is a great sign.
But, yeah, this is just a big spot for Green Bay.
Yeah, the lines are giving up the second most points to wide receivers.
Valdas, Gantling, has kind of, like, faded into the background as, like, the third option.
Lazzard had 50 yards last week.
He had a touchdown the week before that.
I just think this is going to be a high-scoring game.
And Lazard is a huge target for Aaron Rogers.
You know, he's had four targets, six targets, four targets,
and his three games back.
And that's with limited playing time.
I kind of just think it's only going to continue increasing.
I think like throughout the playoffs,
Lazard could end up being like a,
like a guy he was last year where like he's just like a player
that you can have at your wide receiver three or four spot.
And I think it maybe starts this week.
You know how we've been talking,
I feel like I've been complaining to you guys
about how Deontay Johnson's a sloppy player?
Like he just makes a few mistakes,
has a dropper here
every game
it just makes me worried
MVS is like Deontay Johnson
but worse
every game
he gets these opportunities
to make a big play
hit that one big game
where he had two touchdowns
and then every other game
it's like
almost makes a big play
or like has an opportunity
to make a big play
drops it or whatever
it's just like
he just can't get out of his own head
he can't get out of his own way
and I just think
they're going to start
going away from him at this point
they have to
and so this is why I do
I agree. I like Lazzard.
I think Megan Schuster, big Packers fan at the Ringer, is just absolutely sick of MVS.
Just the most inconsistent player.
He's just so infuriating to a lot of Packers fans.
I'm going with double-digit points for Luzard.
The over-under, I'm looking at this, and the Green Bay Detroit game is 55.
So that's pretty solid.
Yeah, I mean, sticking with that game for the same reason, as you just said,
the highest one this week, I think, actually.
For the same reason, I actually, I think Matt Stafford's a really good.
play this week. If you're, if you have him on your bench, you kind of been, oh, I did, good.
I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I hacked into it. I hacked into your shit, like you're the company
that got hacked in California this week. Anyway, so that's another here and or there. I like Matt
Stafford for a lot of reasons. One, this is the highest overrun of the week, but also just the
lions just really seemed freed by the weight of Matt Patricia last week. Seriously.
Obviously, it's like a defensive coach. Darryl Bevel goes in a D. D.K., I think you kind of
mention this, but Darrell Bevel runs this, this offense.
And then Matt Stafford throws for 400 yards again.
I don't think it was the first time he did it all season, but the offense was kind of
reversion to last year when the Lions were one of the most aggressive downfield passing
attacks.
Like, for all the stuff about James and James was throwing the ball downfield last year for
the Buccaneers, the Lions actually had the farthest pass on average.
Like the Lions, Matt Stafford's passes on average are traveling almost 11 yards
downfield, which is really far.
Yeah.
And then last week, it was kind of a throwback to that, no pun intended.
And I just like that they're aggressive again.
I think that's really good for Stafford's numbers.
And then this game, the Packers' defense is going to be putting up numbers in Detroit.
So the Lions are going to have to throw game script-wise anyway.
And now they want to be throwing.
So I just think that's a really good mix to be trusting Stafford again.
It's not so much based on past performance as much as this is like a recency bias that I think is approved.
Like you're allowed to use this recentcy bias.
So I like Stafford this week.
I think he's a top 12 quarterback,
and you can stream them if you're not worried about what to do.
I put the exact same thing as you, top 12 versus Packers.
So let me ask you, you fellas this.
Stafford versus Kyler, you're unequivocally taken Kyler?
That's why I waffled before when you said it.
Kyler's probably like the QB 11,
if Stafford's the QB 12 this week.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'd still probably go with Kyler because of his rushing floor,
even though he's rushing less.
But it's close.
I mean, I think it's reasonably close.
DeAndre Swift looks like he's going to be back.
Galday, I don't know.
I don't think he's back.
I'm going to throw some stats at you.
And this is just adding to what Hafeitz said.
But weeks one through 12, I saw this from draft sharks, Jared Smola.
Weeks 1 through 12, Stafford averaged 8.7 yards, average depth of target.
So he's throwing, his targets average 8.7 yards downfield.
10% of his passes were 20 yards plus downfield.
This last week, his ADOT was 13.8, so nearly double.
and his number of his percentage of passes his his his percentage of passes was 20% so more than double 21.4% so more than double so in other words yeah their offense changed it could be you know it's a small sample clearly and yeah it's a game you know what I mean but like it was it was this was a change a shift from what they had been doing earlier in the season I think it's hilarious reading a lot of the stuff that is coming
from the players this week about how much fun it is like Adrian Peterson today. It was like football's
fun again. And like the beat reporters that for Detroit were talking about how Beville all last
week were preaching about playing with enthusiasm and joy. How much did it just fucking suck to
play for Patricia? Everybody hates that guy. You know the stories that come out about Bill Belichick
where it's like, well, he yells at Tom Brady and then everyone else gets in line? It seems like that was
all Matt Patricia learned about working under
Tom Bill Belichick.
Just yell a lot of people and then everyone else gets in line.
Like that was his main thing.
Loud boys.
Exactly.
One more thing that I want to add to this.
And I don't know exactly how much this matters,
but we were talking about how Trubisky has historically gone ham
against the lions in his career.
And I know that Ty Wightilton historically has gone off
against the Texans in his career.
Matt Stafford has done really well against the Packers in his career,
at least in his last five seasons.
So I looked it up.
His last two games against Packers
haven't been great,
but I kind of feel like
that's maybe the Patricia factor
at play here.
Over the last five seasons,
Stafford has 16 touchdowns
and three picks against the Packers only.
108 rating.
That's eight games.
He's averaged 8.9 yards
per attempt in those games
and almost 300 yards per game
against Packers.
He averages 19.6 points per game
against Packers in those eight games.
In that same time,
frame against all other opponents, 16.3 fantasy points per game. So he's just been better against
the Packers than all. Well, I don't know if he's, I don't know if it would be better than every other
team, but like I just looked up the Packers and he has pretty damn good numbers. That would take a long
time for me to search every single team. So I didn't do that. Well, next week, check back in.
Okay. All right. So what's your bold, what's your bold call, D.K.? So this is, since we had the same
Stafford one, I'm going to switch this to my bold call. And I'm kind of, this one's going,
out on a limb because we'd have no clue if it's actually if Curtis Samuel's even going to play.
So DJ Moore and Curtis Samuel are on the COVID list right now.
DJ Moore reportedly tested positive for COVID and Curtis Samuel was a close contact that
was placed on the COVID list because there was a chance, blah, blah, blah.
Anyway, bottom line is Curtis Samuel may be able to play.
This is Thursday afternoon.
And so if he doesn't play, then obviously disregard all this.
We'll find out probably on Saturday.
I was going to say if he doesn't play, I'm going to hold you accountable.
Okay, that's fine. I'll take it. This is why it's bold. But I'm just guessing Curtis Samuel huge game. If DJ Moore is out, he essentially becomes the number two or the 1A or 1B, I guess, with Ravi Anderson. And he's had double digit points in five of the last six games. So he's already been good. So go big here. I'm going to say 20 plus if he's in the whole. That is huge. Here's the thing. This is a crazy situation with the Panthers right now because McCaffrey now is dealing with.
with a thigh injury.
So on top of the high ankle sprained,
on top of the shoulder.
Now he's got the thigh injury.
He might not play this weekend.
So if he doesn't play,
then we don't know what the deal is
with Curtis Samuel and D.G.
Moore and D.J. Moore and Curtis Samuel don't play.
The Panthers have six guys
with more than six catches this year.
Like if three of those guys are McCaffrey,
Samuel and D.C.M.O. and they don't play,
this is such a nuts spot for DJ Moore.
It's a weird game.
Or sorry, for Mike Davis and Rob,
and Robbie Anderson and any of the Panthers who do play
if the others are out.
I'm watching this closely.
Obviously, odds are D.G. Moore and Curtis Samuel do play,
but we don't know.
But anyway, just keep on the-
No, DJ Moore's not going to play.
D.J. Moore will not play.
Curtis Samuel has a chance to play
based on if he gets a few negative tests
in the next few days, I think.
And they're going up against Denver
whose defense has been good this year,
but they're pretty banged up right now on defense.
And like, listen, like for your fantasy playoffs,
like you're not not starting Robbie.
You're probably starting Robbie Anderson, even if the entire Panthers.
I'm saying that there's a tremendous opportunity for the Panthers who are on the field because of the D.K.
said about the Broncos secondary being out, because I feel like the Panthers aren't a team that's really spreading the ball out beyond their top six guys, even when those guys are out of the game.
They're spreading COVID out, not the ball, though.
I thought you're going to say bold take is that Tom Brady has the vaccine.
I liked what Craig said earlier.
That's a good bold.
Yeah, so AJ Boyier, one of the Broncos's good cornerbacks, starting cornerbacks, he,
get suspended just last week. The Will Fuller
the Will Fuller muscle
what do we call it? Muscle
lubricate, no muscle hydration. Muscle hydration?
Yeah, there you go. Learn to run good.
Hydrate your hammies.
Hydrate the hammies. There we go.
So that's my bold call.
I mean, he might not even play.
So obviously, if you're listening to me right now,
check back on Saturday afternoon,
maybe Sunday morning to see if he's even playing.
And if he's not playing, don't start it.
Or if it's a start a situation, check like 15 minutes before the game.
because you never know.
Seriously.
If you're not checking your lineup
on Saturday night
and Sunday morning
and you're in the fantasy playoffs,
I have nothing to say to you.
Craig is not going to be your friend.
Craig,
speaking of which,
what's your bold?
He has too many friends.
Yeah, Craig,
you have so many friends.
You're just like,
oh,
you can't even take it anymore.
Oh, goodness.
Sorry, I'm a little on edge today.
St.SU is playing Arizona State tonight.
You know,
it's going to be a big basketball game.
St.S.U's ranked 24.
He's on edge.
Arizona State's 23rd.
Big game.
Road game.
Sorry, I'm just on edge.
I hope they win.
That's fair. That's fair. Anyway, I'll allow it. My bold.
Mike Williams of the Chargers going up against Atlanta, 15 plus fantasy points is my bold prediction.
I think you should start Mike Williams as well.
I can tell your mind is elsewhere because you're saying start Mike Williams in the fantasy playoffs.
Listen, man, he's been up and down, sure. He's been hurt. But like, listen, three of the last eight weeks, he's had more than 15 points. I know that's not amazing, but he's averaged around five targets, the last six games.
He's like coming on of late a little bit. Like, is that Atlanta?
a charger game is interesting in general
because there's a lot of recency bias I imagine
because the Chargers got blow torched
by the Patriots. That's the word.
And Belichick, like,
what was the word that we used to say
last year that the hyphen's just hated?
I remember, I didn't even want to say it.
Oh, I don't remember. What was it?
No, it was cremated.
Which I fucking hate.
Float torch is fine.
Yeah, so Belichick literally cremated.
He cremated the charges
offense. But literally, he switched up
defensive schemes. Herbert had no idea
what was going on. They're going up against Atlanta.
And so listen, I like Herbert as well. We talked about Herbert, but William started out the season
banged up. He had a shoulder problem. He had a hamstring problem. Since he's come back,
he's been the wide receiver 35. That's not amazing. But it's a top, it's a top 36 wide receiver
which is a wide receiver three. Like it's a startable wide receiver three. Also, what does Mike
Williams do well? He's a deep foot, right? He catches deep balls. They take shots to him. Atlanta.
No team has allowed more 20 plus yard completions than Atlanta. I think Mike Williams this week
is going to mesh perfectly with Herbert's
gun slinging style.
I think this will be like a
smart start where the guy you play goes,
God damn, he texts you like, Jesus Christ, dude,
Mike Williams? Like, 17 points out of Mike Williams,
you fucking kidding me? Like, I think it's that week.
I think it's a good bounceback game for Herbert, too.
It's a good bold. Yeah. Thank you.
I'm trying to get people start, you know,
like borderline starts it stuff.
Have you guys driven past Sofi Stadium?
Or seen it? Yeah.
I've seen it from an airplane. And it,
It looks like the old Rams logo.
The most amazing part of this whole thing is that the Chargers share a stadium with a team that has the other team's logo is the shape.
And then that team changed the logo so it's not the shape anymore.
What are they doing?
But you don't hate it.
Like, it's not the Roomba Stadium.
Where's the Roomba Stadium?
Is that the one in Las Vegas?
Allegiant.
Yeah, it's a giant-ass Roomba.
Seriously, Google a Legion Stadium.
It looks like a Roomba.
But no, the Rams logo, if you Google, the old Rams logo, not old, like the one from, like, before.
this year. It just looks like
SO-5 stadium. And I can't imagine a charge
like, when the Giants and Jets split
that stadium is like a divorce. It's like everything
is 50.0% that
they negotiate over
when, what time of the week,
the logos and every part of the facility changes
and the charges out of you're playing in a Ram
shaped stadium. Let me ask you guys.
If you had to like make a ranking
of the teams you want to be a fan of for
the next 5, 10 years, who's higher?
The Chargers or the Rams?
Five years? You're asking
the wrong guy because I
you know I grew up loving the Seahawks
and the Rams for the longest time
were like the Seahawks kryptonite
even when they sucked even when they were like a two and
14 team the Rams would always fucking
beat the Seahawks I think the Rams
I'd rather root for the Rams because at the end of the day
they have Aaron Nautil and Jalen Ramsey and they're just
to have the star power yeah
and it's Los Angeles it's like just it's not the Rams
of the Lakers but there's a Lakers Clippers dynamic
forming where it's like the
Oh 100% the charges are a little
Chargers are too cursed
that's a little more fun though to root for Herbert
the ranch like kind of boring
I love the chargers
I've loved the chargers for years
and every year I want to root for the chargers
but the chargers keep doing chargers things
and it's very hard to root for them
well once they get Belichick next year
it's gonna be a whole different game
this Belichick trade
You're the only person saying this
Crackpot idea where did you get this
my father my dad was like
Belichick should go to the chargers
and I was like this is great I love this
Just because you want to retire to San Diego
doesn't mean Bill Belichick does.
He can just run the Patriots from Cape Cod.
Belichick would love La Jolla.
Martha's Vineyard or whatever.
La Jolla is great.
San Diego is like my second favorite city
in this country, I think.
The kelp wall in La Jolla is dying.
It's really sad because the sea urchins are an invasive species.
They're eating the kelp.
And then sharks can swim through and hunt the otters.
The otters are dying because it's a whole thing.
Anyway, we're going to save the...
That is terrifying.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
The kelp wall is a natural barrier.
That is not something I wanted to know.
It's,
It's okay, though, because the kelp is coming.
You know what?
Don't worry about it.
Let's just, my bold call for the week.
The sharks, the sharks should have definitely been a football mascot.
Like, it should have been the San Diego sharks.
Like, that's so much cooler.
In Madden, when you created a team for the longest time, the default was the Tibia Rones.
Like, the L.A.
Shark in Spanish.
Oh.
Which I thought was pretty brilliant.
Like, why did San Jose's hockey team get the sharks?
Like, what's up with that?
Sharks are, like, the most badass, like, animal in the animals.
Sharks are older than trees.
we talked about this.
But like San Jose is just like,
you know what?
We get sharks.
And everyone's like,
you're good.
You got it.
I just can't believe
the Anaheim's the ducks
because mighty,
the mighty ducks was made by Disney
and they're an orange cat.
I think that's crazy.
I know,
that is crazy.
All right.
Anyway,
should we back have to football?
Yeah.
Probably.
Okay.
Where did that come from?
I can't even remember.
I don't know.
That was like an explosion.
That was like a Clay Thompson
eruption of just tangents.
37 points in eight minutes of bullshit.
Yeah, 37 tangents.
Okay.
My bowl for the week.
Tyler Lockett top 10 receiver
We've been talking about how Tyler
Lockett is borderline star-able
This is crap
You're not in this pat-10 receiver
No you're not in this pituitary
I think here's the deal
And I hate to defend Haifitz on this
Because normally I like to just pile on
However
We were talking about benching
Tyler Lockett like literally last episode
Yeah
So to me this is kind of bold
But maybe that's just HighFit setting
the stage to make it seem bold
So you can get it right
Tyler Lockett is the wide receiver 9 on the season.
I understand that.
But it's overweighting because he had that 50,
the 200-yard game with the three touchdowns.
But since that game, since that game,
he's got five points, six points, nine points, 17 points,
four points, nine points.
That's not many points.
So people are now wondering,
should I even play Tyler Lockett?
Now I understand it's going against the Jets.
This is a little obvious.
But I'm saying I just want to be emphatic in my confidence in him.
And it's not just because,
because they're the Jets.
But it's specifically because when we talk about Wilson and Lockett having this great connection,
obviously D.K. McCaff has kind of usurped Lockett as the number one option in the offense.
But Rust, when he scrambles around, he's trying to, it's not just for no purpose.
They're trying to basically take the rules that the other defense plays with and break them by expanding the play.
And that is what him and Lockett are so good at is knowing not just that the defense will break down,
but how and why it will break down
and therefore where you need to go.
That's harder against disciplined defenses.
The teams that the Seahawks have struggled against
in this stretch are disciplined defenses.
The Niners, the Bills, the Giants,
those are the teams where they've been struggling
to get Lockett going.
The Cardinals, they've had no problem.
They played them, that's the 17-point game
where he also had the 200-yard game
against the Cardinals.
He's also best game since then's been against the Cardinals.
The Jets may have fired Greg Williams,
but they are now longer disciplined defense just because he's gone.
They have not gained discipline in the last six days.
Their cornerback situation is pretty bleak too.
I was actually just, I was scrolling through trying to see if there was any information on title lockets injury.
Because he's been a little bit banged up.
And so I was a little bit worried about that.
But I saw this stat.
He has actually fourth in the NFL and end zone targets this year.
Yeah.
I think this is a great spot for him.
And I think that the specific reason he succeeds with Wilson is primed.
to just break the Jets this week.
So I think Wilson,
sorry, Lockett, Top 10 receiver.
If you're thinking about benching him,
don't put him in your line.
I like that point you made.
He kind of has that Ben Rothesberger,
Antonio Brown thing of the past,
where where they really showed their chemistry
was when the play broke down
and they kind of had that connection.
They knew where one of them was going to end up.
Here's a stat for you.
Most targets, this is from PFF today.
Most targets with quarterback under pressure,
Stefan Diggs is first,
Travis Kelsey's second,
Tyler Locket is third.
And I want to nerd out a little bit
about the Scramble Rules thing
that you were talking about
because I think it's awesome.
And it's something that the Seahawks
have been doing ever since
Russell Wilson became a starter in 2012
and realized that
they weren't really going to get to,
like,
get him to play a drop back
in the pocket,
typical traditional offense.
And so,
and this isn't like,
they invented Scramble rules,
but they definitely,
like,
made it a huge,
huge part of their focus for years.
And Locke's obviously been with Wilson for years.
I can't remember what year
it was drafted.
You know, he's like in his fifth or sixth year, I can't remember.
In 2015.
Yeah.
Anyways, so they've been together for a long time.
But basically when you watch their routes, the receivers are taught to when Russell Wilson
breaks the pocket, depending on which side he goes, which way he's running, they have rules.
So they call it their scramble rules.
And basically, wherever they are on the field, there's a rule based on which way Wilson goes.
That's where they convert that route into.
So for instance, if he, if Lockett's running like a drag route, or no, let's say he's running just like a little slant.
If he sees that Wilson, you know, he looks back for the ball, doesn't come.
He sees Wilson break the pocket.
He will like circle out or circle up and just go straight down the field.
And Wilson will know where he's going because they have these rules.
So it's not completely, it's not all improv, in other words.
Because improv in general and football is bad because there's just so many missing, or there's so many moving pieces.
it's chaos and sometimes good things happen from improv,
but more often than not,
you're just going to create a turnover or whatever.
So anyways, I think it's great.
I love the Scramble Rules.
I love that the Seahawks made it a big focus in their offense.
And so, like, when you're watching Lockett,
break off his normal route and like either circle up the sideline
or run up field or come back to Wilson or whatever,
those are based on like the rules that have set in that offense.
And Wilson knows exactly where Lockett's going to go
because there are, you know, like a set,
it's like a second play almost.
How much of that is because Russ is short?
And I don't mean that as a joke.
It's like necessity is the mother of invention.
I think there's a reason Russ is better
when he's deeper in the pocket
and he kind of runs back in the back field deeper
for no reason.
And Baker's honestly better when he's rolling out.
Like it's, I don't think it's an accident
that Baker, Russ, and Kyler are all a lot better
when they're moving, when they're rolling,
when they're getting deeper and aren't necessarily
doing a lot of normal five-step drop stuff.
I mean, yeah, for sure.
It's definitely a factor.
You can't see over guys who are,
He's got like six foot seven, six foot eight linemen in front of them.
Now, a lot of times you can see through the gaps in the line.
And so I do think, generally speaking, like the height thing is overstated a little.
But still, yeah, I mean, he's been historically in his career, he has struggled passing in the short and intermediate middle of the field.
That's just like not where he excels.
He's awesome at passing deep down the sideline.
He has a big arm so he can like hit those deep outs.
you know, and he can hit slants and everything,
but, you know, it's not, I wouldn't say like the short and intermediate middle of the field is his strength.
I like that.
And also just to put a button to this.
We got an email from someone who said, hey, Danny's and practice squad a quarterback, Craig.
Practice squad.
Now he's not even third string.
He's on the practice squad.
I'm on the team.
You got the motor.
But the email writes, when you guys have included Lockett and your gut, gut, bolts,
he has accumulated 33 targets for 24 catches and 300 yards and six touchdowns.
So is this guy track?
backing our gut-gut bolds,
because don't tell us
how we did it on the other ones.
Yeah, thank you for only
including this one.
But I just want to say,
lock it,
when we include him.
He's a lock.
Lock it in.
Lock it in.
I didn't even want to do that,
but there you go.
Okay.
Is that everyone's bold?
Oh, yeah,
that's everyone's bold.
Okay, so I got Gaskin,
Stafford, Tyler Lockett.
D.K., you got Stafford,
too,
with J.D.
McKisset, Curtis, Samuel.
Craig, you got Pittman,
Luzard, Mike Williams.
Quickly recap last week.
weeks. Yeah, last week
looks like a future high school dropouts math
test. Good Lord.
A lot of red. Should we just go through
them quickly? Yeah, let's do it. All right.
So I had Alan Robinson top
seven finish contract month
narrative. I'm sticking with the contract
month narrative. I think he's still contract month, baby. I'm
down this week. It's still contract month, baby.
He did not live up to my expectations last week.
You know what, D.K. I was looking like it. The first
half he had like 70 yards and it was like, oh my God.
And then he, like, it was
a weird role reversal. Normally he does so
well in the fourth quarter.
Anyway.
He's the number one non-quarterback
in the fourth quarter.
Well, the bears are up by 10
in the fourth.
That's why.
Oh, yeah.
It's like very bizarre.
Too bad.
And then I had Miles Sanders
with the over on 14.02.
He had 3.1 points.
And God damn it.
And Sanders went into the book
after this.
I apologize for that one.
And then Drew Locke,
top 12 week.
That game did not go
how I was expecting.
And the Broncos were like
winning into like the deep third
quarter. And so they basically didn't ask Locke to do much. So he ended up as the QB 25, so
was wrong on that. There's nothing worse than predicting somebody who then goes into the book
the week after. That's a special award. That's like fucking wrong. Yeah. Craig, how'd you do?
So I said Denzel Mims had the best game of the season. I was wrong. His best game was 8.7 points. He had
seven. I regret joining you on this endeavor. I said Clyde de Tler would get 75 yards in a TD. I was
wrong because the dude literally didn't play on the field.
Zero snaps.
I don't know if we consider that like the same wrong as other wrongs, but he didn't play.
And the last one, my bold, was right in spirit.
I said that Trubisky and Stafford would be top 10 quarterback.
Stafford was.
He was the quarterback five.
However, Trubisky was the quarterback 24, but the Detroit thing stands.
He had 267 yards.
He had no picks.
And the Bears ran three touchdowns.
Like they got up super early.
They were driving every single, yes, like every single drive.
Like they marched down, got into the red zone.
to run the ball three straight times for touchdown.
So I stand by. I still think that
that sticks.
All right. So I said, I said Duke Johnson would be top 20 running
back. That was wrong because David Johnson
did in fact come back. So I was wrong about that.
So Duke was... You did, you did
stipulate while we were doing this that all bets
are off if Johnson plays, David Johnson
plays, so... Glad David Johnson was healthy
enough to play. I did say Jarvis Land should be
top 20 receiver again. That was correct. He was top
15. He had a good game. And then
Kirk Cousins, I said, would be outside the top
15. He was quarterback 12. But I also think
that he also kind of played like shit.
So despite Justin Jefferson,
having a good game.
But yeah, he was, so three off there.
But wasn't as good of a streamer as old Derrick Carr,
who was number one.
And we did sub into our million dollar lineup
when Fitz got benched.
So there you go.
Speaking of which,
did we win a million dollars last week?
We did not.
No, no, we did not.
Every Friday, though, we are going to make
a Fandil DFS lineup.
We're playing for a million dollars
because we're trying to make a million dollars a week.
The year I turned 26 as the head of my own brokerage firm, I made $49 million, which really pissed me off because it was three shy of a million a week.
Last week.
Didn't make it, but it's okay because we're going to bounce back this week.
All right, we have at quarterback, Justin Herbert.
We talked a little bit about Mike Williams, but we like him coming back against Atlanta playing at home.
Yeah.
For our running back, we went big.
We spent a lot of money, a lot of our $36 that we won four weeks ago.
We're spending that on Derek Henry.
The Big Dog.
Huge bounce back week for the Big Dog.
What do you mean Tractor?
Is he like L Tractor or something?
Is that his nickname?
Didn't, I thought, yeah.
Is it not?
I have no idea what is that?
I've heard D. Hember, like D. Henry.
Dehember?
Dehember?
What does that even mean?
Oh, like December, but Dehember?
It's the big dog.
The big dog.
Let him eat.
Let him Derek Henry.
I feel like.
By the way, Lance Zierlane, who does scouting reports for NFL.com.
He's awesome.
I'll never forget
one of his scouting reports
I believe it was for Leonard Furnett
back in the day was
strap on the feet
strap on the feed bag
and let him meet
you know
like cows have like a feed bag
strap on the feed bag
and let him meet
well Derek Henry's
going to eat all over
Jacksonville this week
I think he's gross
but okay
I think he's the best
running back play of the week
Jackson was just been getting shredded
our second running back
is Chris Carson
who
Chris Carson is a Glansberg
I know it's tough because he's been hurt a lot.
But dude, when Chris Carson's on the field, he's been incredible.
He scores like 15 to 20 points every single game.
He's, you know, as healthy as Chris Carson can be, but they're playing the Jets.
So if they get up early, could be good for him.
He's also been kind of underrated as a receiver in fantasy.
Yeah.
For wide receivers, we're going, Mike Williams to pair with Justin Herbert.
C.D. Lamb against the crappy Bengals.
Andy Dalton, you know, looking a little frisky.
And then our final receiver is going to be James and Crowder,
which D.K. talked about against Seattle.
Our tight end, we're sticking with the Herbert squad.
We're going with Hunter Henry.
And then our running back, we like Ronald Jones.
Because we're listening to Bruce Ariens.
I don't know why we are, but we're listening to Bruce Ariens.
He said he wants to get him 20 touches.
And we're like, all right, sign me the fuck up.
I totally believe everything Aryan says.
Right.
They're playing Minnesota.
So he's very affordable, Rojo.
I'm ready to be burned by Bruce.
Maybe he'll be in the burn book next week.
And then for defense, high fence, you can take it away.
Who's our defense?
The Giants defense.
Thrilling.
After all of that,
we talked about
how we think you should
start Kyler,
however,
we still like the jacket.
It's very affordable,
all right?
At the end of the day.
You need affordable things these times.
We're budgeting.
I think I might also
push for us
to submit a second lineup
this week where we just do
a Lions Packers stack
because now the more I think about this,
we need a little Lions Packers,
Chiefs.
They can do that too.
Let's do two lineups.
Let's make two million.
I mean,
that would be two-thirds of the way
to getting the freaking Bugatti.
No,
I don't know if that's how it works,
but okay.
That is how it works.
That's definitely how it works.
I'm almost positive.
Okay.
Let's go to fantasy court.
All right.
This is from John.
John.
John.
Please help me, Danny D.K. and Craig.
I am the commissioner of my 12-man league.
We've been going strong for 13 years now.
Wow, you can get your league to get a bar mitzvah.
Before the season started, the vice commissioner.
A vice commissioner.
They have a vice commissioner.
Damn, I respect you, John.
Holy crap.
I wanted to be going for so long.
Before this season started,
the vice commissioner and I implemented some changes to help with the whole
note of the COVID situation.
One of those changes was to add three COVID-IR spots
to help teams deal with players being sidelined by COVID.
The idea was that we would have one normal IR spot for injured players
and three IR spots for COVID players.
but there has been a league member
who we will call Toby
who has been abusing this COVID-Ir spots
Toby has been stashing players
that are out for the season
on his COVID-I-R spots
in the hope of keeping them for next year
this is a keeper league.
He is in last place
and all he can do to make this season fun
is troll the league like this.
He has been warned repeatedly.
I was going to freeze his team
but then he is giving easy wins to whoever plays.
What should we do?
So just to,
make sure I'm correct here.
He's like adding Sequin Barclay,
throwing him in his IR,
and then like keeping him for next year.
I think something like that.
I wanted to highlight this case
because I think this is an important case
for the court.
What we do with this specific person is one thing,
but I think the abuse of the IR COVID spots
is something that a lot of leagues have been dealing with.
I know that there have been a lot of really freaking annoying
arguments and group chats I've had to deal with
where, well, these IR spots were for the COVID people
and now other IR people are,
now you kept Dallas Goddard in your IR spot for the COVID.
And that's not what we agreed we would do.
And then there's a whole argument.
And then some people weren't checking the chat.
And they're like,
I'm not scrolling up to read the last 70 messages.
Someone tell me what's going on.
And I'm curious what you guys think about this concept of.
We created the IR spots for COVID.
You've been breaking the rules.
What do you do with these people?
Just take the guys off the COVID IR.
Just take them off.
Put them back on waivers.
Right?
Yeah.
He's breaking an explicit rule.
just take them off those spots
and put them back in the pool.
One, Hyvitz, to your point,
I think it's kind of BS.
If everybody decided that, like,
we have IR spots specifically for COVID
and somebody's just throwing non-COVID people
in that IRC spot,
that should not count.
You should not be able to do that.
This is the fantasy football version
of all those companies
who took the PPP money.
Like, Chipotle was like,
we're sorry, we took too much
and then they gave it back.
It's like, that's this for fantasy football.
We all decided to create this system.
We're like, hey, this COVID situation's really weird.
We're going to have this specific thing
for the specific situation
and everyone's just trying to get
their hands in the pot.
It's ridiculous.
So yeah,
kick the guys off the thing.
He has been warned repeatedly.
I like to tell you.
I didn't occur to me now.
I assume he called him.
I don't know.
If you can manually do it,
just take those players
and put them back in the,
put them back on waivers.
There's also another problem here about,
there's kind of another argument in here,
a fantasy court case about
adding players who are hurt
to, like, be a part of your keeper team.
Like, that is a strategy that people do.
The only thing is,
most keeper leagues,
there's like a penalty for keeping people, right?
Like you have to give up a draft pick or whatever.
So you could, in theory, add all these injured guys,
but then most likely next year,
you're going to have to incur all of these draft hits.
And it's like, I guess let him have it.
If he wants to have Sequin, Barclays, torn ACL,
and whoever else, let him have it.
Well, I don't think the players
there's consequential Sequan because it's a keeper league.
But regardless, you shouldn't be getting to keep dudes
who you got because of these COVID spots.
It's ridiculous.
No, but what if it was?
wasn't a COVID spot, as I'm saying.
If you just...
Yeah, it's fine.
Shouldn't have dropped Sequequan in a keeper league.
That's...
Okay, yeah.
So that's the thing is I actually got this from my buddy.
He asked me to kind of like do an informal ruling on it.
Wait, this is from your friend?
No, no, no.
A different...
There's a different friend, different situation.
Well, this John person's not my friend.
But, well, we're kind of friends.
Maybe it's Craig's friend.
Craig has so many friends.
It's probably Craig's friend.
John, don't lose hope.
D.K. could be your friend.
If you listen to the pod, now we're all friends.
No, it was basically the same deal as like the league.
has like an informal rule is you can't pick up guys who are on the IR
in order to keep them next year in this keeper league.
And he picked up Mixen.
And he's out of the playoffs.
Everyone's pissed off because like,
according to the league or whoever is against this,
it's like against the rules to pick up this guy who's on the IR.
But my point is like,
Mixon might be back.
We don't really know that he's on the IR until next season.
And therefore,
I don't think this breaks that rule,
because Mixon could return this year
for all we know.
He's not out for the season,
he hasn't been rolled out for the season.
And in addition to that,
in a keeper league,
if you're dropping a guy
who could end up being
like a first rounder next year,
that's your fault.
Like you should have not dropped them.
I completely agree.
That's crazy.
Like,
Mixon shouldn't be on the waiver wire.
No.
So I had one note here
about the name Toby.
Yes.
Yeah.
The office has just destroyed that name.
It's so true.
If you were named Toby.
Toby's a perfectly fine name,
but dude,
the office came out just...
It's kind of like the name.
It's synonymous with...
Oh, Karen's been destroyed.
It's a margin to death.
We should do top five names
that have been murdered
by pop culture in the last 10 years.
Toby's up there.
Ceri.
Siri, I feel bad for Ceres at this point.
There are no series.
And also all the elections,
I know we're kind of flattered,
but that every name in the world,
Amazon shows theirs.
Why are you the way that you are?
Toby.
Oh, my God.
We apologize to all Toby's out there.
We support you.
Yeah, we support. No one else does, but we support you. Toby Flanderson is just, he's rough.
If your name is Toby, please do emails about all the times people have made the office shows to you.
What did you say the Spanish word for shark was? Tiburone. Toby. Toburone, Toby.
Toblerone. Which is an overrated chocolate, by the way. Spanish speakers to tell Hyvitz how terribly he's
I was trying to. Botting. Tobleron, I also think Toblerons are kind of good.
It's just too expensive. Why is it shaped like that? It's so unnecessary.
What?
For the Swiss Alps.
It's ridiculous.
It's fun little pyramid,
you know, switch it up.
It's ridiculous.
You know how like triangles
are the strongest shape?
They're too hard to break apart.
And then I get the melty chocolate
over my hands.
I don't like Toblerones.
Ridiculous.
You know what?
You know what this just
this whole conversation
just made me think about
is the fact that
Creed Bratton,
the character on the office.
Yeah.
His name in real life
is Creed Bratton.
It's creed.
Yeah.
You didn't know that?
Dude,
there's a lot of Phyllis is
named Phyllis.
Phyllis made me laugh hard.
I think the funniest, we're so off track now.
My favorite office joke is when Phyllis says, I didn't have an orgasm until I was 42,
but when I did it last until I was 44.
Oh my God.
Which is the hardest I've ever laughed at a television show.
Phyllis's name is Phyllis.
Oscar's name is Oscar.
Angela's name is Angela in real life.
Oh, I didn't actually realize that.
Yep.
Crete is like, he's in a band.
I don't know what you call it.
It's called the band.
The band is called The Grass Roots.
The Grassroots, right.
Not the Roots.
That's a different band.
Yeah, he's on the Tonight Show with Fallon, Cree.
You can see him in the back.
He's hilarious.
Okay, let's get the hell out of here.
D.K., when we do the band thing, say one of those bands.
Okay.
Thank you, D.K.
Thank you to everyone who slogged through that one.
Good luck in the playoffs.
Good luck to everyone in playoffs.
Thank you to all the Tobies out there.
You're probably not that bad.
And thank you, Lauren.
What do we do without you?
Thank you, Chris.
Thank you.
Yeah, Creed.
All right.
We'll see you guys on Monday.
