The Ringer NFL Show - Start or Sit Kyler? Plus, Lockett’s Comeback and Week 14 Playoff Bold Predictions.

Episode Date: December 11, 2020

Fantasy playoffs are here, and we lead the show with the hottest question on everyone’s mind: Do I actually sit Kyler Murray this week? Then we offer up our gut calls and bold predictions for the We...ek 14 slate, look back on our Week 13 predictions, build our million-dollar daily fantasy lineup, and rule on a Fantasy Court case. Start or Sit Kyler Murray (1:35) Week 14 Predictions: J.D. McKissic, Washington (10:20) Michael Pittman, Colts (12:20) Myles Gaskin, Dolphins (13:50) Jamison Crowder, Jets (17:15) Allen Lazard, Packers (19:50) Matt Stafford, Lions (22:52) Curtis Samuel, Panthers (27:47) Mike Williams, Chargers (31:24) Tyler Lockett, Seahawks (36:49) Million-Dollar Lineup (47:04) Fantasy Court (50:12) Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today's episode of the Ringer Fantasy Football Show, we make a definitive ranking on where Kyler Murray stands this week. Plus, we also go through her playoff predictions for week 14, including Matthew Stafford's post-Patricia explosion, Tyler Lockett's bounceback, and all the fringe receivers you can trust this week. We also give you our million dollar lineup, which this week is going to be a $2 million lineup,
Starting point is 00:00:24 and an ode to people named Toby. Stick around. Welcome to the Ring of Fame. fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hyfitz and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck. Are you guys ready for a fun fact? Yes. Okay, this comes to us from Mike. The fingerprints of a koala bear are so indistinguishable from human beings that they have on occasion been confused at crime scenes. How many human koala crime scenes are there going on? That was my question. How often has this happened? Is there a database of koalas? How often are
Starting point is 00:01:12 koala bears involved in crime. Just like a bunch of koala bandits. All right. Well, speaking of crimes, we're trying to keep Kyler Murray's fingerprints off your fantasy losses right now. Ooh, nice. So we know we've gotten into Russ and Kyler a bit, but we're still getting a lot of emails,
Starting point is 00:01:32 and we just want to settle this once and for all. We're going to go through just a quick name game. I feel like Kyler is the biggest question for fantasy playoffs. So we're going to go to a quick name game of who you guys would would not start over Kyler Murray. And then we're going to go through our gut-gut-bolds. We're a little worried about Kyler because there's been reports that his shoulder is injured. He's not running as much.
Starting point is 00:01:52 His running attempts per game have gone way down. Honestly, screw the reports. We've watched him play. The man is injured. He's handing the ball off rather than running. And that floor, that rushing floor that he had throughout the first, you know, like 10 games, I guess, or whatever it was, was just so exceptional. That's what made him like an amazing.
Starting point is 00:02:11 amazing fantasy option. And now it's just basically his passing, which has been really hit or miss. And it's three games since the shoulder injury are the worst three games has had all season, basically. And he's going up against the New York Giants
Starting point is 00:02:24 who have been really good. They just kind of stymied Russell Wilson. And, you know, if you have Kyler for your fantasy playoffs in week 14, obviously this is winner-go-home time. So if you're kind of peeked over to the waiver and you see some guys, we're going to try and help you make that decision.
Starting point is 00:02:39 So I couldn't hear you before, Craig. Did you say the Giants have been really a what? they've been good they've been solid I just want to make sure I heard that right all right so Kyler
Starting point is 00:02:46 let's just go through the top here so the the crem de la crem Aaron Rogers Mahomes we're not even going to talk about it
Starting point is 00:02:52 right I mean if you have them both I mean what you have I don't want to be hearing from you if you have
Starting point is 00:02:56 both those guys his options Josh Allen I mean yes right he's playing against his steers though I would play
Starting point is 00:03:03 Josh over Murray okay Russ he's going to get the Jets so it's obviously right Russ hasn't been
Starting point is 00:03:10 good but he hasn't been as bad And it's because of the, exactly because of the opponent this week, I think it's the big thing. Deshawn Watson, going against the Bears. Yeah. Yes, easy. You have to, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Herbert going against the Falcons. I think so. Yes. Lamar against the Browns. The only reason why I stop here is because the weather is supposed to be bad. And I know Lamar's not like slicing people up with his arm lately anyway. But if it's like some rainy, muddy mess, I still go, Lamar. I would too
Starting point is 00:03:41 42 degrees in raining on Sunday in Cleveland What is with the Cleveland weather What the hell I thought weather planet Was supposed to be getting hotter Wasn't the rain supposed to stop I guess I would still go with Lamar
Starting point is 00:03:52 I guess Okay Tom Brady So he's got He's playing Minnesota And they're coming off a bye Hmm He's probably feeling good
Starting point is 00:04:01 He's probably got the vaccine by now He's a little older He's old enough to qualify This might be kind of hot But I think I lean Brady I mean, I think I'm kind of, I'm bullish about Brady this week because the Vikings can't really pressure and I'm kind of dubious. And Brady's just been day and night without pass rush. And I'm pretty, I'm pretty interested about, I mean, you know, it's almost a little too neat and tidy.
Starting point is 00:04:24 But them having the buy week to get their shit together in Tampa Bay, not getting the pressure. I'm kind of, I think I'm Michael Brady over Kyler. Is that crazy? I think I agree. I think I'm with you. The only thing that worries me, just the slightest bit about Brady is Evans, Mike Evans, Mike Evans is not practiced the last two days because of a hamstring injury, I believe. So he is questionable going into this week.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I'm not sure if that even matters, though, to be honest. All right. Tassum Hill. At Philly. Who's probably going to play for the Saints? I'm going to, I'm going to Hill. Good God. You're not?
Starting point is 00:04:58 He's uncomfortable. He doesn't want to say it. I think this is where I'm starting to waver here. Tase him? Hi Fitz, what do you think? I would go Tasem Hill. If he's playing, I want Taysam Hilling. He's put up 20.
Starting point is 00:05:09 24, 18, and 23. Here's the difference to me. He had 85 rush more than five times. So, here's the, so Kyler said this to reporters this week. So Damon Heward, of all people, remember like Damon Heward, the old backup quarterback guy? Oh, yeah. Apparently, he called out Kyler this week. Anyway, the point is, Kyler responded, and he told a whole gaggle of reporters.
Starting point is 00:05:27 My shoulders, quoting Kyler here, my shoulder's fine. As far as running the ball goes, it's pretty obvious if you watch the game that if the opposing defenses make me hand the ball off, I have no choice but to hand the ball off. I don't know what you want me to do. Do you want me to pull it and run into like a defensive? They're making hand the ball, so that's what I have to do. And it's true. It's what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:05:47 The early parts of the season, he was running all the time, and now defense is kind of recommitted to having him hand the ball off because they're not as afraid of Kenyon Drake breeding them as Kyler. Although Drake, and that's why Drake's numbers have been a lot better recently. So I think the question is how the Giants are going to handle them. I'm just confident to Jason Hill is probably going to get more carries than Kyler in this game. So I would pick Hill, actually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:06 But that's probably the line for me, though. Let me throw out a few more, just, and you guys can say, like Matt Ryan against the Chargers. No, I want to her. Matt Stafford against Packers. I like Stafford a lot this week. Or Cousins at Tampa Bay. No, I want Couss has been ball in lately. And not only that, the bucks in the last five weeks have given up the most points to quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:06:29 This is where we go through the line of like, are you really going to spend the next six months of your life thinking about how you lost your fantasy playoffs because you started Kirk Cousins over Kyler Murray? Kirk is the guy where it's like, no, I can't, I won't be able to sleep at night anymore if I get this wrong. Okay. So, but like, to be honest, in reality, most teams probably don't have two quarterbacks on their team. If they do, then good job, like preparing for the future. But the guys that are going to be on the waiver wire are guys like cousins, potentially, Stafford, maybe, Philip Rivers, who's playing the Raiders, Derek Carr, going up against Indianapolis. You're not starting any of those guys over Kyler Murray who got you to this point, right? I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I don't think so. Look, I love the Giants, but it's not like the Giants are some invincible foe. And also, let's remember here, it only takes one run for Kyler Murray to completely, like, give the floor back. Just because he hasn't been running as much the last few weeks. It only takes one little 20-yard scamper to completely get him back into where you need to be. So I- How do you feel about the Giants Cardinals game in general? The Giants over the last five weeks have allowed the third-leased points to quarterbacks. Yeah, so here's the thing. I'm one of the first. that's true. On the other hand, it's like the list is Russell Wilson, which is the one we're all remembering.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And then before that, who did they play? They played the Bengals with, I mean, Brandon Allen, and then it was like Washington with Alex Smith. It's not the finest group of quarterbacks they were playing before the Seahawks. So that's the caveat. I would say that the Giant Stevens has been good for a while, like when they played the Bucks on Monday to Football
Starting point is 00:07:58 and they almost won that game. They almost won that game. They almost won that game. Came down to, like, the last play of the game. That was legit. That game is included in the last five weeks ranking. It's Brady. It's Alex Smith. It's Carson Wentz. It's whoever the Bengals quarterback was and it's Russell Wilson. It's not the worst. I mean, it's pretty average.
Starting point is 00:08:13 They're good, but they're not. I'm a little worried of going too far the other way here and pretending that they're invincible and you should bench Kyler Murray because they're awful. So we're essentially saying you have to start them. There's no one in the waiver wire we like. Payson Hill is likely not on the waiver wire. You got to play them.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Oh, God. I think, like, yeah, I agree. I think you play them assuming that none of those guys that we like more are still out there or you have them on your roster. if you do have any of those guys that we liked more on your roster, then I think it does make sense to go for it. But I'm not just picking up some rando on the waiver wire and starting him over Kyler.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I'm not that low on Kyler at this point. The one guy I'd throw out there is, how do we feel about Tanna Hill or Kyler Murray? You think, is Tanna Hill out there? Well, no, he's probably not out there. Yeah. You never know. If he is, yeah, I would go Tana Hill then.
Starting point is 00:09:00 But I doubt he is. Okay. All right. So you're probably going to have to play Tyler Murray. Sorry. Pretty much. He'll probably be great. and the Giants will probably lose it, I'll be sad.
Starting point is 00:09:07 So, yeah, if you're thinking about Kirk, or if you're thinking about Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan, don't do it. Okay. Let's get into gut-gut-bolts for the week. Play-off week. Play-off gut-gut bowls here. So this is a big deal. D-K.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Channel. Get in sync with the Earth's circadian rhythm. I've been eating a lot of yogurt to try and get, like, my gut right? What's the... You got all your crystals? Oh, your probiotics. The probiotics. Because your gut bacteria.
Starting point is 00:09:31 This is important. You need diverse gut bacteria, and they actually think that that's a huge part. of digestive issues and even weight loss. I learned a lot about this when I had a kid because like it's very good for your kids to have I don't know what it is. A diverse, a lot of bacteria in their gut
Starting point is 00:09:47 because it's like very good for their human body. You're giving Calvin little scoops of dirt. That's part of the reason like whatever. Just let them eat whatever. Yeah, it's good. It's a worm. That's why I eat like shit. As long as they're not going to choke on it, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:10:01 But anyway, I get my gut right. And I feel good this week about none other than J.D. McKissick for Washington because, and I wouldn't have said this if Antonio Gibson hadn't injured his toe, but it does not look like he's going to play this week. And Washington had been trending towards Gibson as their main guy. He was getting a lot more
Starting point is 00:10:23 work. He was obviously breaking out in terms of his fantasy points and all that, and McKissick was falling into the background. But with Gibson out, it's going to be a rotation with him and Peyton Barber. And he's going to be getting, at least in half PPR and PPR league's far more valuable usage in the passing game. If you go back five games, over the last five games,
Starting point is 00:10:43 he has a 24% target share, which is best among all running backs, according to area arts.com. He has the second highest Whopper, which is weighted opportunity rating among all running backs in that stretch. He had 10 targets last week against Pittsburgh. He carried the ball five times
Starting point is 00:10:58 for eight yards. That doesn't really matter. Obviously, he's not going to be a big part on the ground, big part of the ground game. But I mean, just, he's basically a receiver in that offense and you get those target. You get that target share. You get, you know, as much as High Fitz hates it, man, he's going to get these swing passes that you're going to get you points. And those will build up over the game. I think it gives him a good floor.
Starting point is 00:11:17 So I'm going 12 plus half PPR. I'm starting him in a few leagues this week and I'm really hoping for the best. Yeah, I think you should start him too because he's the man who's broken PPR leagues. He's going to have 11 catches for 45 yards and get you 16 points. The perfect example of Hyfitz's hatred of PPR. To be clear, I don't actually hate Chating Kissick. He's actually kind of exciting player. I just, there's nobody that you're watching.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I can't remember the last player who I remember thinking is having less of an impact than the actual flow of the game while wrapping and he does get first downs. I don't want to completely belittle his impact, but this is a, this is a begrudgingly, I'll admit I like this one. All right. So, yeah, 12 plus
Starting point is 00:11:56 half PPR. Craig, what's your gut call of the week? I'm going with Michael Pittman is startable this week. He should be on your fantasy playoffs team. So the Colts are playing Oakland. The Colts, I should say, because I can't shake them. Also, they're not Oakland. Oh,
Starting point is 00:12:12 yeah, crap, sorry. Vegas. Bay Area bias. Whatever. Yeah, so Pitman last four weeks was really good, right? He was looking pretty promising. He had like two back-to-back 15-point weeks. Everybody was kind of like this is the next rookie wide receiver
Starting point is 00:12:28 is going to take off. And then he had two slow weeks because Tywyllton, you know, shook off his rust. And kind of put in two great weeks, but I don't know. I mean, I think they can coexist one, especially against the Raiders who are giving up like the fourth most points per game in the league. Also, during this Tywy Hilton, like, comeback period, Pittman's only had two less targets than him. So it's not like he's completely falling off the face of the earth. He had like a drop or two last week that kind of made his stat line look worse. He's still the biggest player for the
Starting point is 00:12:56 Colts, like on the field. He's going to be a red zone target. I just wouldn't be worried. I think you should stick with him as your wide receiver three or your flex this week. weeks ago in week 12, he had nine targets and only had two catches. So the volume is still there. It's just consistency. No, he doesn't suck. He's good. No, he has been good.
Starting point is 00:13:16 I like this too. I actually think Philip Rivers is like, could have a pretty sneakily good game. Rivers has been sneakily good. Yeah. So I like this one. So I'm going with also 12 half ppr points. Sweet.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I think Miles, so on your note for flexing and should be started, is Miles Gaskin, Dolphins running back. I think he's the top 20 running. back this week. I think that you can pretty safely play him. I mean, you got 21 carries last week coming off injured reserve. I mean, it's amazing to me how the dolphins just trust this guy so much.
Starting point is 00:13:45 He is, he's young. He's like, what is he? A rookie seventh rounder, but Miles Gaskin just gets all their goal line carries. He just, and also... He doesn't convert him. Well, not yet. But the dolphins don't want to be passing in the goal line
Starting point is 00:14:02 situations. It's so clear to me that Brian Flores seems to have kind of issued a verdict of like we are not throwing interceptions in the end zone like they're putting the ball on the ground he gets a lot of high so it's not just getting a lot of carries it's that when they're in the goal to go situations Miles Gaskin's getting the ball
Starting point is 00:14:17 and I love that because they're going against the chiefs so I think that first of all the dolphins played a lot better in this their offense played a lot better in the second half last week they went to like this kind of up tempo faster pace offense to get two are going and it worked he had like 160 170 passing yards just in the third quarter
Starting point is 00:14:33 and obviously when the offense is moving, that's a good thing. So Gaskin, he lined up as a receiver one play, like out wide. He had a big catch. I like his ability to stay on the field. I think that the dolphins have a better than you think chance to stay in this game with Kansas City. And I really like Miles Gaskin's chances for a touchdown in this game. So I think he's super flexible. Well, I mean, well, I don't know if he's flexible, but you should flex him.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I assume he's flexible. He's a professional athlete. Amazing amount of yoga. Incredible. I was perusing FantasyPoint.com. and they have a running chart that tracks expected fantasy points. So expected, I don't know exactly how it works,
Starting point is 00:15:09 but in terms of what they put into this equation, but it's the amount of points you're expected to get, based on your usage in any given game. Gaskin ranks 12th among all players this year, among all skill players. That's wild. I think the tracks with the goal line carries, though. Yeah, and he's actually not getting,
Starting point is 00:15:29 he's not hitting his expected fantasy points. He's one of the players that fall short, and I think it's a lot based on the fact that he's just been stuffed at the goal line a bunch of times. So like he said, it could come this week in bunches, but I really like him, too, just based on the fact that you're guaranteed to get a lot of carries. Well, not guaranteed, but he could get hurt, I suppose,
Starting point is 00:15:49 but you have a good chance. I don't want someone to, like, quote me on that, you know? Dark Niles, Danny. I think most people who have Miles Gaskin on their team are starting them. Right? I mean, he puts up, like, 12 or more every game. We got a couple emails this week
Starting point is 00:16:04 questioning. I'm just saying he's got to, I think he's got to be in your flex if you're thinking about it. He's not a name. He's not a big name. No, he's not. He came back and played,
Starting point is 00:16:12 but they had a lot of injuries last week. I think there is some validity to this being a gut call because, like, we don't really know exactly how this dolphin's backfield is kind of, like, line up.
Starting point is 00:16:23 And I think any team playing the chiefs, maybe like a fantasy manager gets nervous. I think it's going to be a blowout. Gaskin won't get a lot of carries. So I can see people debating sitting him. Hyphitz, what's your benchmark here? What are his numbers? I just said top 20 running back, but I mean, I'd be happy to just instead just go line touchdown and be like screw it to, you know, stick it to DK.
Starting point is 00:16:41 No, no, whatever you want, man. Top 20 RB, sure. Sure. That was so passive, aggressive. You're saying you want to say? No. No, no, that's totally fine, man. Good for you. Mr. Kelly, you're up. All right. So I'm going to stick with players that probably annoy Hyphitz for being good fantasy players, but Jameson Crowder of the Jets. I thought you were going to say Marquis Brown. Oh, no, I'm off that. He's in the book.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I'm done with that. He has been pretty good the last two weeks. You mean Bakersfield Brown? Although I also kind of like North Hollywood Brown as suggested by our record colleague Riley McAtee. Yeah, like if he has a decent game. What was the Florida town that Kevin gave us? Kevin Clark suggested.
Starting point is 00:17:21 It was, oh my God. It was something so like awful. It was hilarious. Was it Oldstown? We'll come back to it. Anyways, so for Crowder this week. Crowder kind of, to me, he was really good at the beginning of year. He got a hamstring injury, ended up missing a few games.
Starting point is 00:17:38 And then when he came back, he was very unreliable. He had like two really bad games. And I kind of went off of them. I'm like, okay, this offense has changed when he was away. Now they have perimen. Now they have Mims. They're pushing the ball down the field. And I was just like out on Crowder.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And then, of course, last week he came back and had two touchdowns. But the thing that worries me is they still wasn't getting a ton of targets last week. He just got, I think he had like four targets. He had two touchdowns, so it's just a little iffy. But now with Mims out, Mim's has a personal issue this week. I'm not sure. I haven't heard what it is, but he's going to miss this game. And I think that makes Crowder really interesting against the Seahawks defense.
Starting point is 00:18:16 I mean, the CX defense has improved, it's still not great. And traditionally, and Pete Carroll's whole like spiel is don't get beat deep. Don't let players beat you deep. Keep everything in front. So I think that Crowder is just going to get peppered. I think the plan is going to be, you know, make him dump it off, rally to the ball tackle. And that's kind of like their thing. Also probably the Jets' new philosophy, too, don't get big deep.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Yeah, I would think so. So anyways, yeah, I think I'm guessing, you know, based on everything we know, I'm one of those Seahawks fans who's like, even this game worries me. But I'm guessing the Seahawks are going to take a big lead early on. And then it's going to be a lot of garbage time for Darnold. And so that, to me, it makes Crudder another. It just makes me feel better about Crowder. So going back to last week, I'm taking the over on his 9.5 projection this week on Yahoo in half-p-P-R. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I like that too. Also, the random Florida town that Kevin Clark suggested was named Pilotka. And then also there was spuds. Oh, Spuds. Actually, Spuds is a good one. Spuds Brown. So Marquis Spuds Brown. I kind of like that, actually.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Although I like North Hollywood, Brown. I unironically like that. Yeah. Okay, so you got Jady McKissick and Jameson Crowder, D.K. Craig. The PPR gods, or half PPR, I guess, in this case. Nothing like picking a jet to take you to the Promise Land. I'm going with, I think Alan Lazzard is playable this week versus Detroit.
Starting point is 00:19:47 You and Alan Lazzard? This is good because I have Alan Lazzard and I'm waffling on playing them or not. Convince me. All right, I mean, we'll see how I can do here. So they're playing Detroit, who's been just kind of, getting eviscerated on all fronts, really. Luzard's been, he's been okay, right? He's been getting worked back slowly.
Starting point is 00:20:04 He had that, like, muscle core injury or whatever. So last week, he played, like, 70% of the snaps. It was his highest since he got hurt, which is a great sign. But, yeah, this is just a big spot for Green Bay. Yeah, the lines are giving up the second most points to wide receivers. Valdas, Gantling, has kind of, like, faded into the background as, like, the third option. Lazzard had 50 yards last week. He had a touchdown the week before that.
Starting point is 00:20:25 I just think this is going to be a high-scoring game. And Lazard is a huge target for Aaron Rogers. You know, he's had four targets, six targets, four targets, and his three games back. And that's with limited playing time. I kind of just think it's only going to continue increasing. I think like throughout the playoffs, Lazard could end up being like a,
Starting point is 00:20:42 like a guy he was last year where like he's just like a player that you can have at your wide receiver three or four spot. And I think it maybe starts this week. You know how we've been talking, I feel like I've been complaining to you guys about how Deontay Johnson's a sloppy player? Like he just makes a few mistakes, has a dropper here
Starting point is 00:20:57 every game it just makes me worried MVS is like Deontay Johnson but worse every game he gets these opportunities to make a big play hit that one big game
Starting point is 00:21:09 where he had two touchdowns and then every other game it's like almost makes a big play or like has an opportunity to make a big play drops it or whatever it's just like
Starting point is 00:21:18 he just can't get out of his own head he can't get out of his own way and I just think they're going to start going away from him at this point they have to and so this is why I do I agree. I like Lazzard.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I think Megan Schuster, big Packers fan at the Ringer, is just absolutely sick of MVS. Just the most inconsistent player. He's just so infuriating to a lot of Packers fans. I'm going with double-digit points for Luzard. The over-under, I'm looking at this, and the Green Bay Detroit game is 55. So that's pretty solid. Yeah, I mean, sticking with that game for the same reason, as you just said, the highest one this week, I think, actually.
Starting point is 00:21:57 For the same reason, I actually, I think Matt Stafford's a really good. play this week. If you're, if you have him on your bench, you kind of been, oh, I did, good. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I hacked into it. I hacked into your shit, like you're the company that got hacked in California this week. Anyway, so that's another here and or there. I like Matt Stafford for a lot of reasons. One, this is the highest overrun of the week, but also just the lions just really seemed freed by the weight of Matt Patricia last week. Seriously. Obviously, it's like a defensive coach. Darryl Bevel goes in a D. D.K., I think you kind of mention this, but Darrell Bevel runs this, this offense.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And then Matt Stafford throws for 400 yards again. I don't think it was the first time he did it all season, but the offense was kind of reversion to last year when the Lions were one of the most aggressive downfield passing attacks. Like, for all the stuff about James and James was throwing the ball downfield last year for the Buccaneers, the Lions actually had the farthest pass on average. Like the Lions, Matt Stafford's passes on average are traveling almost 11 yards downfield, which is really far.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Yeah. And then last week, it was kind of a throwback to that, no pun intended. And I just like that they're aggressive again. I think that's really good for Stafford's numbers. And then this game, the Packers' defense is going to be putting up numbers in Detroit. So the Lions are going to have to throw game script-wise anyway. And now they want to be throwing. So I just think that's a really good mix to be trusting Stafford again.
Starting point is 00:23:18 It's not so much based on past performance as much as this is like a recency bias that I think is approved. Like you're allowed to use this recentcy bias. So I like Stafford this week. I think he's a top 12 quarterback, and you can stream them if you're not worried about what to do. I put the exact same thing as you, top 12 versus Packers. So let me ask you, you fellas this. Stafford versus Kyler, you're unequivocally taken Kyler?
Starting point is 00:23:41 That's why I waffled before when you said it. Kyler's probably like the QB 11, if Stafford's the QB 12 this week. You know what I mean? Like, I'd still probably go with Kyler because of his rushing floor, even though he's rushing less. But it's close. I mean, I think it's reasonably close.
Starting point is 00:23:54 DeAndre Swift looks like he's going to be back. Galday, I don't know. I don't think he's back. I'm going to throw some stats at you. And this is just adding to what Hafeitz said. But weeks one through 12, I saw this from draft sharks, Jared Smola. Weeks 1 through 12, Stafford averaged 8.7 yards, average depth of target. So he's throwing, his targets average 8.7 yards downfield.
Starting point is 00:24:16 10% of his passes were 20 yards plus downfield. This last week, his ADOT was 13.8, so nearly double. and his number of his percentage of passes his his his percentage of passes was 20% so more than double 21.4% so more than double so in other words yeah their offense changed it could be you know it's a small sample clearly and yeah it's a game you know what I mean but like it was it was this was a change a shift from what they had been doing earlier in the season I think it's hilarious reading a lot of the stuff that is coming from the players this week about how much fun it is like Adrian Peterson today. It was like football's fun again. And like the beat reporters that for Detroit were talking about how Beville all last week were preaching about playing with enthusiasm and joy. How much did it just fucking suck to play for Patricia? Everybody hates that guy. You know the stories that come out about Bill Belichick where it's like, well, he yells at Tom Brady and then everyone else gets in line? It seems like that was
Starting point is 00:25:24 all Matt Patricia learned about working under Tom Bill Belichick. Just yell a lot of people and then everyone else gets in line. Like that was his main thing. Loud boys. Exactly. One more thing that I want to add to this. And I don't know exactly how much this matters,
Starting point is 00:25:36 but we were talking about how Trubisky has historically gone ham against the lions in his career. And I know that Ty Wightilton historically has gone off against the Texans in his career. Matt Stafford has done really well against the Packers in his career, at least in his last five seasons. So I looked it up. His last two games against Packers
Starting point is 00:25:58 haven't been great, but I kind of feel like that's maybe the Patricia factor at play here. Over the last five seasons, Stafford has 16 touchdowns and three picks against the Packers only. 108 rating.
Starting point is 00:26:11 That's eight games. He's averaged 8.9 yards per attempt in those games and almost 300 yards per game against Packers. He averages 19.6 points per game against Packers in those eight games. In that same time,
Starting point is 00:26:24 frame against all other opponents, 16.3 fantasy points per game. So he's just been better against the Packers than all. Well, I don't know if he's, I don't know if it would be better than every other team, but like I just looked up the Packers and he has pretty damn good numbers. That would take a long time for me to search every single team. So I didn't do that. Well, next week, check back in. Okay. All right. So what's your bold, what's your bold call, D.K.? So this is, since we had the same Stafford one, I'm going to switch this to my bold call. And I'm kind of, this one's going, out on a limb because we'd have no clue if it's actually if Curtis Samuel's even going to play. So DJ Moore and Curtis Samuel are on the COVID list right now.
Starting point is 00:27:02 DJ Moore reportedly tested positive for COVID and Curtis Samuel was a close contact that was placed on the COVID list because there was a chance, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, bottom line is Curtis Samuel may be able to play. This is Thursday afternoon. And so if he doesn't play, then obviously disregard all this. We'll find out probably on Saturday. I was going to say if he doesn't play, I'm going to hold you accountable. Okay, that's fine. I'll take it. This is why it's bold. But I'm just guessing Curtis Samuel huge game. If DJ Moore is out, he essentially becomes the number two or the 1A or 1B, I guess, with Ravi Anderson. And he's had double digit points in five of the last six games. So he's already been good. So go big here. I'm going to say 20 plus if he's in the whole. That is huge. Here's the thing. This is a crazy situation with the Panthers right now because McCaffrey now is dealing with.
Starting point is 00:27:52 with a thigh injury. So on top of the high ankle sprained, on top of the shoulder. Now he's got the thigh injury. He might not play this weekend. So if he doesn't play, then we don't know what the deal is with Curtis Samuel and D.G.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Moore and D.J. Moore and Curtis Samuel don't play. The Panthers have six guys with more than six catches this year. Like if three of those guys are McCaffrey, Samuel and D.C.M.O. and they don't play, this is such a nuts spot for DJ Moore. It's a weird game. Or sorry, for Mike Davis and Rob,
Starting point is 00:28:22 and Robbie Anderson and any of the Panthers who do play if the others are out. I'm watching this closely. Obviously, odds are D.G. Moore and Curtis Samuel do play, but we don't know. But anyway, just keep on the- No, DJ Moore's not going to play. D.J. Moore will not play.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Curtis Samuel has a chance to play based on if he gets a few negative tests in the next few days, I think. And they're going up against Denver whose defense has been good this year, but they're pretty banged up right now on defense. And like, listen, like for your fantasy playoffs, like you're not not starting Robbie.
Starting point is 00:28:51 You're probably starting Robbie Anderson, even if the entire Panthers. I'm saying that there's a tremendous opportunity for the Panthers who are on the field because of the D.K. said about the Broncos secondary being out, because I feel like the Panthers aren't a team that's really spreading the ball out beyond their top six guys, even when those guys are out of the game. They're spreading COVID out, not the ball, though. I thought you're going to say bold take is that Tom Brady has the vaccine. I liked what Craig said earlier. That's a good bold. Yeah, so AJ Boyier, one of the Broncos's good cornerbacks, starting cornerbacks, he,
Starting point is 00:29:21 get suspended just last week. The Will Fuller the Will Fuller muscle what do we call it? Muscle lubricate, no muscle hydration. Muscle hydration? Yeah, there you go. Learn to run good. Hydrate your hammies. Hydrate the hammies. There we go. So that's my bold call.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I mean, he might not even play. So obviously, if you're listening to me right now, check back on Saturday afternoon, maybe Sunday morning to see if he's even playing. And if he's not playing, don't start it. Or if it's a start a situation, check like 15 minutes before the game. because you never know. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:29:52 If you're not checking your lineup on Saturday night and Sunday morning and you're in the fantasy playoffs, I have nothing to say to you. Craig is not going to be your friend. Craig, speaking of which,
Starting point is 00:30:02 what's your bold? He has too many friends. Yeah, Craig, you have so many friends. You're just like, oh, you can't even take it anymore. Oh, goodness.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Sorry, I'm a little on edge today. St.SU is playing Arizona State tonight. You know, it's going to be a big basketball game. St.S.U's ranked 24. He's on edge. Arizona State's 23rd. Big game.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Road game. Sorry, I'm just on edge. I hope they win. That's fair. That's fair. Anyway, I'll allow it. My bold. Mike Williams of the Chargers going up against Atlanta, 15 plus fantasy points is my bold prediction. I think you should start Mike Williams as well. I can tell your mind is elsewhere because you're saying start Mike Williams in the fantasy playoffs. Listen, man, he's been up and down, sure. He's been hurt. But like, listen, three of the last eight weeks, he's had more than 15 points. I know that's not amazing, but he's averaged around five targets, the last six games.
Starting point is 00:30:50 He's like coming on of late a little bit. Like, is that Atlanta? a charger game is interesting in general because there's a lot of recency bias I imagine because the Chargers got blow torched by the Patriots. That's the word. And Belichick, like, what was the word that we used to say last year that the hyphen's just hated?
Starting point is 00:31:06 I remember, I didn't even want to say it. Oh, I don't remember. What was it? No, it was cremated. Which I fucking hate. Float torch is fine. Yeah, so Belichick literally cremated. He cremated the charges offense. But literally, he switched up
Starting point is 00:31:19 defensive schemes. Herbert had no idea what was going on. They're going up against Atlanta. And so listen, I like Herbert as well. We talked about Herbert, but William started out the season banged up. He had a shoulder problem. He had a hamstring problem. Since he's come back, he's been the wide receiver 35. That's not amazing. But it's a top, it's a top 36 wide receiver which is a wide receiver three. Like it's a startable wide receiver three. Also, what does Mike Williams do well? He's a deep foot, right? He catches deep balls. They take shots to him. Atlanta. No team has allowed more 20 plus yard completions than Atlanta. I think Mike Williams this week
Starting point is 00:31:52 is going to mesh perfectly with Herbert's gun slinging style. I think this will be like a smart start where the guy you play goes, God damn, he texts you like, Jesus Christ, dude, Mike Williams? Like, 17 points out of Mike Williams, you fucking kidding me? Like, I think it's that week. I think it's a good bounceback game for Herbert, too.
Starting point is 00:32:09 It's a good bold. Yeah. Thank you. I'm trying to get people start, you know, like borderline starts it stuff. Have you guys driven past Sofi Stadium? Or seen it? Yeah. I've seen it from an airplane. And it, It looks like the old Rams logo. The most amazing part of this whole thing is that the Chargers share a stadium with a team that has the other team's logo is the shape.
Starting point is 00:32:31 And then that team changed the logo so it's not the shape anymore. What are they doing? But you don't hate it. Like, it's not the Roomba Stadium. Where's the Roomba Stadium? Is that the one in Las Vegas? Allegiant. Yeah, it's a giant-ass Roomba.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Seriously, Google a Legion Stadium. It looks like a Roomba. But no, the Rams logo, if you Google, the old Rams logo, not old, like the one from, like, before. this year. It just looks like SO-5 stadium. And I can't imagine a charge like, when the Giants and Jets split that stadium is like a divorce. It's like everything is 50.0% that
Starting point is 00:33:01 they negotiate over when, what time of the week, the logos and every part of the facility changes and the charges out of you're playing in a Ram shaped stadium. Let me ask you guys. If you had to like make a ranking of the teams you want to be a fan of for the next 5, 10 years, who's higher?
Starting point is 00:33:17 The Chargers or the Rams? Five years? You're asking the wrong guy because I you know I grew up loving the Seahawks and the Rams for the longest time were like the Seahawks kryptonite even when they sucked even when they were like a two and 14 team the Rams would always fucking
Starting point is 00:33:33 beat the Seahawks I think the Rams I'd rather root for the Rams because at the end of the day they have Aaron Nautil and Jalen Ramsey and they're just to have the star power yeah and it's Los Angeles it's like just it's not the Rams of the Lakers but there's a Lakers Clippers dynamic forming where it's like the Oh 100% the charges are a little
Starting point is 00:33:49 Chargers are too cursed that's a little more fun though to root for Herbert the ranch like kind of boring I love the chargers I've loved the chargers for years and every year I want to root for the chargers but the chargers keep doing chargers things and it's very hard to root for them
Starting point is 00:34:03 well once they get Belichick next year it's gonna be a whole different game this Belichick trade You're the only person saying this Crackpot idea where did you get this my father my dad was like Belichick should go to the chargers and I was like this is great I love this
Starting point is 00:34:17 Just because you want to retire to San Diego doesn't mean Bill Belichick does. He can just run the Patriots from Cape Cod. Belichick would love La Jolla. Martha's Vineyard or whatever. La Jolla is great. San Diego is like my second favorite city in this country, I think.
Starting point is 00:34:31 The kelp wall in La Jolla is dying. It's really sad because the sea urchins are an invasive species. They're eating the kelp. And then sharks can swim through and hunt the otters. The otters are dying because it's a whole thing. Anyway, we're going to save the... That is terrifying. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:44 It's crazy. The kelp wall is a natural barrier. That is not something I wanted to know. It's, It's okay, though, because the kelp is coming. You know what? Don't worry about it. Let's just, my bold call for the week.
Starting point is 00:34:54 The sharks, the sharks should have definitely been a football mascot. Like, it should have been the San Diego sharks. Like, that's so much cooler. In Madden, when you created a team for the longest time, the default was the Tibia Rones. Like, the L.A. Shark in Spanish. Oh. Which I thought was pretty brilliant.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Like, why did San Jose's hockey team get the sharks? Like, what's up with that? Sharks are, like, the most badass, like, animal in the animals. Sharks are older than trees. we talked about this. But like San Jose is just like, you know what? We get sharks.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And everyone's like, you're good. You got it. I just can't believe the Anaheim's the ducks because mighty, the mighty ducks was made by Disney and they're an orange cat.
Starting point is 00:35:31 I think that's crazy. I know, that is crazy. All right. Anyway, should we back have to football? Yeah. Probably.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Okay. Where did that come from? I can't even remember. I don't know. That was like an explosion. That was like a Clay Thompson eruption of just tangents. 37 points in eight minutes of bullshit.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Yeah, 37 tangents. Okay. My bowl for the week. Tyler Lockett top 10 receiver We've been talking about how Tyler Lockett is borderline star-able This is crap You're not in this pat-10 receiver
Starting point is 00:35:57 No you're not in this pituitary I think here's the deal And I hate to defend Haifitz on this Because normally I like to just pile on However We were talking about benching Tyler Lockett like literally last episode Yeah
Starting point is 00:36:10 So to me this is kind of bold But maybe that's just HighFit setting the stage to make it seem bold So you can get it right Tyler Lockett is the wide receiver 9 on the season. I understand that. But it's overweighting because he had that 50, the 200-yard game with the three touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:36:27 But since that game, since that game, he's got five points, six points, nine points, 17 points, four points, nine points. That's not many points. So people are now wondering, should I even play Tyler Lockett? Now I understand it's going against the Jets. This is a little obvious.
Starting point is 00:36:43 But I'm saying I just want to be emphatic in my confidence in him. And it's not just because, because they're the Jets. But it's specifically because when we talk about Wilson and Lockett having this great connection, obviously D.K. McCaff has kind of usurped Lockett as the number one option in the offense. But Rust, when he scrambles around, he's trying to, it's not just for no purpose. They're trying to basically take the rules that the other defense plays with and break them by expanding the play. And that is what him and Lockett are so good at is knowing not just that the defense will break down,
Starting point is 00:37:15 but how and why it will break down and therefore where you need to go. That's harder against disciplined defenses. The teams that the Seahawks have struggled against in this stretch are disciplined defenses. The Niners, the Bills, the Giants, those are the teams where they've been struggling to get Lockett going.
Starting point is 00:37:32 The Cardinals, they've had no problem. They played them, that's the 17-point game where he also had the 200-yard game against the Cardinals. He's also best game since then's been against the Cardinals. The Jets may have fired Greg Williams, but they are now longer disciplined defense just because he's gone. They have not gained discipline in the last six days.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Their cornerback situation is pretty bleak too. I was actually just, I was scrolling through trying to see if there was any information on title lockets injury. Because he's been a little bit banged up. And so I was a little bit worried about that. But I saw this stat. He has actually fourth in the NFL and end zone targets this year. Yeah. I think this is a great spot for him.
Starting point is 00:38:08 And I think that the specific reason he succeeds with Wilson is primed. to just break the Jets this week. So I think Wilson, sorry, Lockett, Top 10 receiver. If you're thinking about benching him, don't put him in your line. I like that point you made. He kind of has that Ben Rothesberger,
Starting point is 00:38:22 Antonio Brown thing of the past, where where they really showed their chemistry was when the play broke down and they kind of had that connection. They knew where one of them was going to end up. Here's a stat for you. Most targets, this is from PFF today. Most targets with quarterback under pressure,
Starting point is 00:38:37 Stefan Diggs is first, Travis Kelsey's second, Tyler Locket is third. And I want to nerd out a little bit about the Scramble Rules thing that you were talking about because I think it's awesome. And it's something that the Seahawks
Starting point is 00:38:47 have been doing ever since Russell Wilson became a starter in 2012 and realized that they weren't really going to get to, like, get him to play a drop back in the pocket, typical traditional offense.
Starting point is 00:39:01 And so, and this isn't like, they invented Scramble rules, but they definitely, like, made it a huge, huge part of their focus for years. And Locke's obviously been with Wilson for years.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I can't remember what year it was drafted. You know, he's like in his fifth or sixth year, I can't remember. In 2015. Yeah. Anyways, so they've been together for a long time. But basically when you watch their routes, the receivers are taught to when Russell Wilson breaks the pocket, depending on which side he goes, which way he's running, they have rules.
Starting point is 00:39:30 So they call it their scramble rules. And basically, wherever they are on the field, there's a rule based on which way Wilson goes. That's where they convert that route into. So for instance, if he, if Lockett's running like a drag route, or no, let's say he's running just like a little slant. If he sees that Wilson, you know, he looks back for the ball, doesn't come. He sees Wilson break the pocket. He will like circle out or circle up and just go straight down the field. And Wilson will know where he's going because they have these rules.
Starting point is 00:39:57 So it's not completely, it's not all improv, in other words. Because improv in general and football is bad because there's just so many missing, or there's so many moving pieces. it's chaos and sometimes good things happen from improv, but more often than not, you're just going to create a turnover or whatever. So anyways, I think it's great. I love the Scramble Rules. I love that the Seahawks made it a big focus in their offense.
Starting point is 00:40:20 And so, like, when you're watching Lockett, break off his normal route and like either circle up the sideline or run up field or come back to Wilson or whatever, those are based on like the rules that have set in that offense. And Wilson knows exactly where Lockett's going to go because there are, you know, like a set, it's like a second play almost. How much of that is because Russ is short?
Starting point is 00:40:42 And I don't mean that as a joke. It's like necessity is the mother of invention. I think there's a reason Russ is better when he's deeper in the pocket and he kind of runs back in the back field deeper for no reason. And Baker's honestly better when he's rolling out. Like it's, I don't think it's an accident
Starting point is 00:40:54 that Baker, Russ, and Kyler are all a lot better when they're moving, when they're rolling, when they're getting deeper and aren't necessarily doing a lot of normal five-step drop stuff. I mean, yeah, for sure. It's definitely a factor. You can't see over guys who are, He's got like six foot seven, six foot eight linemen in front of them.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Now, a lot of times you can see through the gaps in the line. And so I do think, generally speaking, like the height thing is overstated a little. But still, yeah, I mean, he's been historically in his career, he has struggled passing in the short and intermediate middle of the field. That's just like not where he excels. He's awesome at passing deep down the sideline. He has a big arm so he can like hit those deep outs. you know, and he can hit slants and everything, but, you know, it's not, I wouldn't say like the short and intermediate middle of the field is his strength.
Starting point is 00:41:43 I like that. And also just to put a button to this. We got an email from someone who said, hey, Danny's and practice squad a quarterback, Craig. Practice squad. Now he's not even third string. He's on the practice squad. I'm on the team. You got the motor.
Starting point is 00:41:56 But the email writes, when you guys have included Lockett and your gut, gut, bolts, he has accumulated 33 targets for 24 catches and 300 yards and six touchdowns. So is this guy track? backing our gut-gut bolds, because don't tell us how we did it on the other ones. Yeah, thank you for only including this one.
Starting point is 00:42:12 But I just want to say, lock it, when we include him. He's a lock. Lock it in. Lock it in. I didn't even want to do that, but there you go.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Okay. Is that everyone's bold? Oh, yeah, that's everyone's bold. Okay, so I got Gaskin, Stafford, Tyler Lockett. D.K., you got Stafford, too,
Starting point is 00:42:30 with J.D. McKisset, Curtis, Samuel. Craig, you got Pittman, Luzard, Mike Williams. Quickly recap last week. weeks. Yeah, last week looks like a future high school dropouts math test. Good Lord.
Starting point is 00:42:45 A lot of red. Should we just go through them quickly? Yeah, let's do it. All right. So I had Alan Robinson top seven finish contract month narrative. I'm sticking with the contract month narrative. I think he's still contract month, baby. I'm down this week. It's still contract month, baby. He did not live up to my expectations last week.
Starting point is 00:43:01 You know what, D.K. I was looking like it. The first half he had like 70 yards and it was like, oh my God. And then he, like, it was a weird role reversal. Normally he does so well in the fourth quarter. Anyway. He's the number one non-quarterback in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Well, the bears are up by 10 in the fourth. That's why. Oh, yeah. It's like very bizarre. Too bad. And then I had Miles Sanders with the over on 14.02.
Starting point is 00:43:24 He had 3.1 points. And God damn it. And Sanders went into the book after this. I apologize for that one. And then Drew Locke, top 12 week. That game did not go
Starting point is 00:43:34 how I was expecting. And the Broncos were like winning into like the deep third quarter. And so they basically didn't ask Locke to do much. So he ended up as the QB 25, so was wrong on that. There's nothing worse than predicting somebody who then goes into the book the week after. That's a special award. That's like fucking wrong. Yeah. Craig, how'd you do? So I said Denzel Mims had the best game of the season. I was wrong. His best game was 8.7 points. He had seven. I regret joining you on this endeavor. I said Clyde de Tler would get 75 yards in a TD. I was
Starting point is 00:44:11 wrong because the dude literally didn't play on the field. Zero snaps. I don't know if we consider that like the same wrong as other wrongs, but he didn't play. And the last one, my bold, was right in spirit. I said that Trubisky and Stafford would be top 10 quarterback. Stafford was. He was the quarterback five. However, Trubisky was the quarterback 24, but the Detroit thing stands.
Starting point is 00:44:30 He had 267 yards. He had no picks. And the Bears ran three touchdowns. Like they got up super early. They were driving every single, yes, like every single drive. Like they marched down, got into the red zone. to run the ball three straight times for touchdown. So I stand by. I still think that
Starting point is 00:44:44 that sticks. All right. So I said, I said Duke Johnson would be top 20 running back. That was wrong because David Johnson did in fact come back. So I was wrong about that. So Duke was... You did, you did stipulate while we were doing this that all bets are off if Johnson plays, David Johnson plays, so... Glad David Johnson was healthy
Starting point is 00:45:01 enough to play. I did say Jarvis Land should be top 20 receiver again. That was correct. He was top 15. He had a good game. And then Kirk Cousins, I said, would be outside the top 15. He was quarterback 12. But I also think that he also kind of played like shit. So despite Justin Jefferson, having a good game.
Starting point is 00:45:15 But yeah, he was, so three off there. But wasn't as good of a streamer as old Derrick Carr, who was number one. And we did sub into our million dollar lineup when Fitz got benched. So there you go. Speaking of which, did we win a million dollars last week?
Starting point is 00:45:31 We did not. No, no, we did not. Every Friday, though, we are going to make a Fandil DFS lineup. We're playing for a million dollars because we're trying to make a million dollars a week. The year I turned 26 as the head of my own brokerage firm, I made $49 million, which really pissed me off because it was three shy of a million a week. Last week.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Didn't make it, but it's okay because we're going to bounce back this week. All right, we have at quarterback, Justin Herbert. We talked a little bit about Mike Williams, but we like him coming back against Atlanta playing at home. Yeah. For our running back, we went big. We spent a lot of money, a lot of our $36 that we won four weeks ago. We're spending that on Derek Henry. The Big Dog.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Huge bounce back week for the Big Dog. What do you mean Tractor? Is he like L Tractor or something? Is that his nickname? Didn't, I thought, yeah. Is it not? I have no idea what is that? I've heard D. Hember, like D. Henry.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Dehember? Dehember? What does that even mean? Oh, like December, but Dehember? It's the big dog. The big dog. Let him eat. Let him Derek Henry.
Starting point is 00:46:34 I feel like. By the way, Lance Zierlane, who does scouting reports for NFL.com. He's awesome. I'll never forget one of his scouting reports I believe it was for Leonard Furnett back in the day was strap on the feet
Starting point is 00:46:45 strap on the feed bag and let him meet you know like cows have like a feed bag strap on the feed bag and let him meet well Derek Henry's going to eat all over
Starting point is 00:46:57 Jacksonville this week I think he's gross but okay I think he's the best running back play of the week Jackson was just been getting shredded our second running back is Chris Carson
Starting point is 00:47:06 who Chris Carson is a Glansberg I know it's tough because he's been hurt a lot. But dude, when Chris Carson's on the field, he's been incredible. He scores like 15 to 20 points every single game. He's, you know, as healthy as Chris Carson can be, but they're playing the Jets. So if they get up early, could be good for him. He's also been kind of underrated as a receiver in fantasy.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Yeah. For wide receivers, we're going, Mike Williams to pair with Justin Herbert. C.D. Lamb against the crappy Bengals. Andy Dalton, you know, looking a little frisky. And then our final receiver is going to be James and Crowder, which D.K. talked about against Seattle. Our tight end, we're sticking with the Herbert squad. We're going with Hunter Henry.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And then our running back, we like Ronald Jones. Because we're listening to Bruce Ariens. I don't know why we are, but we're listening to Bruce Ariens. He said he wants to get him 20 touches. And we're like, all right, sign me the fuck up. I totally believe everything Aryan says. Right. They're playing Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:47:53 So he's very affordable, Rojo. I'm ready to be burned by Bruce. Maybe he'll be in the burn book next week. And then for defense, high fence, you can take it away. Who's our defense? The Giants defense. Thrilling. After all of that,
Starting point is 00:48:09 we talked about how we think you should start Kyler, however, we still like the jacket. It's very affordable, all right? At the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:48:15 You need affordable things these times. We're budgeting. I think I might also push for us to submit a second lineup this week where we just do a Lions Packers stack because now the more I think about this,
Starting point is 00:48:26 we need a little Lions Packers, Chiefs. They can do that too. Let's do two lineups. Let's make two million. I mean, that would be two-thirds of the way to getting the freaking Bugatti.
Starting point is 00:48:35 No, I don't know if that's how it works, but okay. That is how it works. That's definitely how it works. I'm almost positive. Okay. Let's go to fantasy court.
Starting point is 00:48:47 All right. This is from John. John. John. Please help me, Danny D.K. and Craig. I am the commissioner of my 12-man league. We've been going strong for 13 years now. Wow, you can get your league to get a bar mitzvah.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Before the season started, the vice commissioner. A vice commissioner. They have a vice commissioner. Damn, I respect you, John. Holy crap. I wanted to be going for so long. Before this season started, the vice commissioner and I implemented some changes to help with the whole
Starting point is 00:49:20 note of the COVID situation. One of those changes was to add three COVID-IR spots to help teams deal with players being sidelined by COVID. The idea was that we would have one normal IR spot for injured players and three IR spots for COVID players. but there has been a league member who we will call Toby who has been abusing this COVID-Ir spots
Starting point is 00:49:43 Toby has been stashing players that are out for the season on his COVID-I-R spots in the hope of keeping them for next year this is a keeper league. He is in last place and all he can do to make this season fun is troll the league like this.
Starting point is 00:49:56 He has been warned repeatedly. I was going to freeze his team but then he is giving easy wins to whoever plays. What should we do? So just to, make sure I'm correct here. He's like adding Sequin Barclay, throwing him in his IR,
Starting point is 00:50:12 and then like keeping him for next year. I think something like that. I wanted to highlight this case because I think this is an important case for the court. What we do with this specific person is one thing, but I think the abuse of the IR COVID spots is something that a lot of leagues have been dealing with.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I know that there have been a lot of really freaking annoying arguments and group chats I've had to deal with where, well, these IR spots were for the COVID people and now other IR people are, now you kept Dallas Goddard in your IR spot for the COVID. And that's not what we agreed we would do. And then there's a whole argument. And then some people weren't checking the chat.
Starting point is 00:50:45 And they're like, I'm not scrolling up to read the last 70 messages. Someone tell me what's going on. And I'm curious what you guys think about this concept of. We created the IR spots for COVID. You've been breaking the rules. What do you do with these people? Just take the guys off the COVID IR.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Just take them off. Put them back on waivers. Right? Yeah. He's breaking an explicit rule. just take them off those spots and put them back in the pool. One, Hyvitz, to your point,
Starting point is 00:51:10 I think it's kind of BS. If everybody decided that, like, we have IR spots specifically for COVID and somebody's just throwing non-COVID people in that IRC spot, that should not count. You should not be able to do that. This is the fantasy football version
Starting point is 00:51:22 of all those companies who took the PPP money. Like, Chipotle was like, we're sorry, we took too much and then they gave it back. It's like, that's this for fantasy football. We all decided to create this system. We're like, hey, this COVID situation's really weird.
Starting point is 00:51:34 We're going to have this specific thing for the specific situation and everyone's just trying to get their hands in the pot. It's ridiculous. So yeah, kick the guys off the thing. He has been warned repeatedly.
Starting point is 00:51:44 I like to tell you. I didn't occur to me now. I assume he called him. I don't know. If you can manually do it, just take those players and put them back in the, put them back on waivers.
Starting point is 00:51:52 There's also another problem here about, there's kind of another argument in here, a fantasy court case about adding players who are hurt to, like, be a part of your keeper team. Like, that is a strategy that people do. The only thing is, most keeper leagues,
Starting point is 00:52:05 there's like a penalty for keeping people, right? Like you have to give up a draft pick or whatever. So you could, in theory, add all these injured guys, but then most likely next year, you're going to have to incur all of these draft hits. And it's like, I guess let him have it. If he wants to have Sequin, Barclays, torn ACL, and whoever else, let him have it.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Well, I don't think the players there's consequential Sequan because it's a keeper league. But regardless, you shouldn't be getting to keep dudes who you got because of these COVID spots. It's ridiculous. No, but what if it was? wasn't a COVID spot, as I'm saying. If you just...
Starting point is 00:52:37 Yeah, it's fine. Shouldn't have dropped Sequequan in a keeper league. That's... Okay, yeah. So that's the thing is I actually got this from my buddy. He asked me to kind of like do an informal ruling on it. Wait, this is from your friend? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:52:49 A different... There's a different friend, different situation. Well, this John person's not my friend. But, well, we're kind of friends. Maybe it's Craig's friend. Craig has so many friends. It's probably Craig's friend. John, don't lose hope.
Starting point is 00:52:59 D.K. could be your friend. If you listen to the pod, now we're all friends. No, it was basically the same deal as like the league. has like an informal rule is you can't pick up guys who are on the IR in order to keep them next year in this keeper league. And he picked up Mixen. And he's out of the playoffs. Everyone's pissed off because like,
Starting point is 00:53:19 according to the league or whoever is against this, it's like against the rules to pick up this guy who's on the IR. But my point is like, Mixon might be back. We don't really know that he's on the IR until next season. And therefore, I don't think this breaks that rule, because Mixon could return this year
Starting point is 00:53:37 for all we know. He's not out for the season, he hasn't been rolled out for the season. And in addition to that, in a keeper league, if you're dropping a guy who could end up being like a first rounder next year,
Starting point is 00:53:46 that's your fault. Like you should have not dropped them. I completely agree. That's crazy. Like, Mixon shouldn't be on the waiver wire. No. So I had one note here
Starting point is 00:53:54 about the name Toby. Yes. Yeah. The office has just destroyed that name. It's so true. If you were named Toby. Toby's a perfectly fine name, but dude,
Starting point is 00:54:05 the office came out just... It's kind of like the name. It's synonymous with... Oh, Karen's been destroyed. It's a margin to death. We should do top five names that have been murdered by pop culture in the last 10 years.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Toby's up there. Ceri. Siri, I feel bad for Ceres at this point. There are no series. And also all the elections, I know we're kind of flattered, but that every name in the world, Amazon shows theirs.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Why are you the way that you are? Toby. Oh, my God. We apologize to all Toby's out there. We support you. Yeah, we support. No one else does, but we support you. Toby Flanderson is just, he's rough. If your name is Toby, please do emails about all the times people have made the office shows to you. What did you say the Spanish word for shark was? Tiburone. Toby. Toburone, Toby.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Toblerone. Which is an overrated chocolate, by the way. Spanish speakers to tell Hyvitz how terribly he's I was trying to. Botting. Tobleron, I also think Toblerons are kind of good. It's just too expensive. Why is it shaped like that? It's so unnecessary. What? For the Swiss Alps. It's ridiculous. It's fun little pyramid, you know, switch it up.
Starting point is 00:55:10 It's ridiculous. You know how like triangles are the strongest shape? They're too hard to break apart. And then I get the melty chocolate over my hands. I don't like Toblerones. Ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:55:18 You know what? You know what this just this whole conversation just made me think about is the fact that Creed Bratton, the character on the office. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:26 His name in real life is Creed Bratton. It's creed. Yeah. You didn't know that? Dude, there's a lot of Phyllis is named Phyllis.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Phyllis made me laugh hard. I think the funniest, we're so off track now. My favorite office joke is when Phyllis says, I didn't have an orgasm until I was 42, but when I did it last until I was 44. Oh my God. Which is the hardest I've ever laughed at a television show. Phyllis's name is Phyllis. Oscar's name is Oscar.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Angela's name is Angela in real life. Oh, I didn't actually realize that. Yep. Crete is like, he's in a band. I don't know what you call it. It's called the band. The band is called The Grass Roots. The Grassroots, right.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Not the Roots. That's a different band. Yeah, he's on the Tonight Show with Fallon, Cree. You can see him in the back. He's hilarious. Okay, let's get the hell out of here. D.K., when we do the band thing, say one of those bands. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Thank you, D.K. Thank you to everyone who slogged through that one. Good luck in the playoffs. Good luck to everyone in playoffs. Thank you to all the Tobies out there. You're probably not that bad. And thank you, Lauren. What do we do without you?
Starting point is 00:56:31 Thank you, Chris. Thank you. Yeah, Creed. All right. We'll see you guys on Monday.

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