The Ringer NFL Show - Super Bowl Propalooza, Raiders to Hire Kubiak, Arizona Hires LaFleur, and 'Sex and the City' Finale Reactions

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

The guys are together in Los Angeles to break down Super Bowl prop bets, from the coin toss and national anthem length to MVP chaos, Gatorade colors, and whether the Patriots might not score a touchdown at all. They also debate Sam Darnold interceptions, Jaxon Smith-Njigba MVP odds, and why the dumbest props might actually be the sharpest bets. (00:00) Intro (02:00) Raiders Hire Klint Kubiak (05:44) Cardinals Hire Mike LaFleur (11:20) Giants Hire Matt Nagy (15:20) Sean Payton Vs. Bo Nix (20:37) Super Bowl LX Props (01:14:06) Emails: Dante’s Update Discord link:  https://discord.gg/Ge8bbYHrau Check out the 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings: https://fantasyfootball.theringer.com/ Email us! [e-mail] Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Cameron Dinwiddie Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ring of Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hydexon. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck in Los Angeles. Hey, my guys, we did it. We're here. Yeah. Not in San Francisco, but we're here together. Close.

Yeah, we're very close. We're in the state of California. Yeah. Which is San Francisco in L.A. is like, what, North Carolina and New York on the East Coast? It is quite a way. Eight hour drive? Yeah. That's six.

Well, the Super Bowl is here next year, so we're early. That's right. If you think about it. We're going to get the best spot at Radio Row next year if we get there now. Camping out like New Year's Eve, Times Square. Okay, we're going to go through prop bets. We're going to go through emails. We're going to go through some coaching news, but first, quick reminder.

We are here all offseason, too. So if you're listening to us for Super Bowl week, we still go twice a week after the Super Bowl. Dek is a draft expert. Going to be in the combine or in a few weeks, covering the draft, trades, free agency, all that jazz. And then also, most importantly, Craig, who came in last place in the Rear Fantasy Football League this year. Technically, but I had the same record as the guy who won the league.

Well, he came at last by the rules that he decided. She was the one who decided the format. We decided the format. Not oddly. Because you were complaining about it like you weren't part of it. That's good for content to complain, right? Well, speak, so Craig's punishment

is he can't do caffeine for a week, which sucks because he doesn't drink coffee, but he does drink matcha. So we want to deaconite, cheers. We're going to drink machin for a great. I can't waver both you to be like, this tastes like dirt. Oh, that's the finest match I've ever had.

It does kind of taste like dirt, a little bit. I have had matcha before, though. It's not ceremonial grade. Yeah, it's not quite. But anyway, let's just get to it. So we're going to go through all the propets, but first there's some news

that's happened before we, Dick is just drinking them. I'm going to bring a case idea tomorrow. He didn't in front of D-Kah. D-Kid, rolls through the news here. Yeah, we got a lot of stuff. We got a lot of stuff. Let's start out with the Raiders.

Hiring. Your guy. Clint Kubiak, the offensive coordinator of the Seahawks. It doesn't worry me whatsoever that he was having several interviews over the weekend, not really paying attention to this game that's coming up instead doing interviews. That doesn't worry me at all. So just I'm going to get ahead of that. a little bit.

Yeah. He's interviewed and putting together a staff before the big I'm not worried. It really is. There's kind of no way

to fix this because it sucks that he is interviewing while preparing for the Super Bowl. That doesn't make any sense. But then there's also these teams who season

ended a month ago and they need to make changes and get started. So you kind of need to be able to interview a coach. So it is just like a catch 22 that you can't kind of solve.

So it is a bummer, but I don't know what a solution is. You're never going to have billionaire owners of teams with their $10 billion companies not trying to poach talent for a a month after the season ends, but you're also never going to have them not pursuing the coaches

on the best teams that go through this. But it's like everyone's got to wait a month and then you can all start interviewing. That'll never happen. But I also understand why like when a couple, a few years, the first time the Eagles chiefs played in the Super Bowl and then like Jonathan Gannon's the defensive coordinator, the games in Arizona and the Arizona Cardinals are poaching Jonathan Gannon all week and they, to the point where the Cardinals actually got fined and it to give the Eagles a third round pick for tampering. And then the Cardinals gave up, or sorry, the Eagles gave up 38 points in the Super Bowl to the

Chiefs, and you're like, oh, imagine if you'd spent like two more hours. This is now this is the second straight Seahawks to Raiders coaching hire. Right. Well, Pete Carroll. Oh, yeah. I think he took a year off. Second times a charm. From Coobiak's point of view, do you guys like this move by him?

My thought initially was he probably could have done the Ben Johnson thing, wait a year, come back another season, have like a pretty good offense with the Seahawks, and they have like his pick of the litter, so to speak, potentially. But he gets the number one pick in the draft. Right. He gets Mendoza. I think this is the best spot for Kubei. I kind of agree. But the Raiders are not a stable order. No, but this is, it is though, because this is

the reverse, now the tuxedo has actually seem kind of cool. Like, because now that it's Tom Brady running the team, but you have for Nandoandoandoza, now it's cool because now you have Brock Bowers and Michael Mayor of Tidane, you have Mendoza. Now you need two to three offensive linemen. Colton Miller, a left tackle solid.

And I still think Jackson Pires Johnson's good in the interior, but the defense, honestly, man, whatever. They should trade back Scrosby, but for culture, you can keep him. But the point is you get Mendoza, you bring him in, he's good. And if Kubek makes Mendoza good, now it's like Tom Brady actually personally mentoring Mendoza, like karate kid style. It's, this is such a better plan than the oldest coach in the NFL having the worst team try to build with Gino Smith.

It was 36. This is a real plan. I do think I agree. I mean, it's quick. I mean, he rose up. I mean, he hasn't been calling plays for a long time. I mean, he went from like Saints to Seahawks, one year at the Seahawks to head coach of the Raiders. and it all happened very suddenly.

But like, how often is it that you get the number one pick in the draft? And it's somebody who I think people feel pretty good about. You know what I mean? Higher floor type of quarterback. Yeah, I think Kim Ward, it was kind of like, who knows, he's kind of more of a default number one guy. Mendoza, you know, I don't know if he's Caleb Williams level, but he does feel like somebody who you can build around. And obviously Clint Kubiak feels the same way. Well, Clint Kubiak, I mean, he got 14 wins at Adarnold this regular season.

We had never seen that before. Because we have last year. Yeah, I got that. He did make Derek Carr on hateable. You got to keep up. Yeah. I will say, I have to admit. Why do I have to drink more much?

I have to admit. Oh, you don't want it? I took another sip of the match and I'll admit, I've had match with you before. It's good. This match, I almost vomited. It's not the best match if I had. I lied. I hope the guy who made that's not interesting.

No, it's not him. It's just the quality. You joked with the quality of the masha. Where did you get the match at the toilet store? Anyway. Other news, D.K. The Cardinals hire Mike Lafleur, Lefleur, one of the other Lefleur brothers. The brother of Matt, Mike Lafleur, who is 38 years old.

He had, the Cardinals basically ran out of options. No offense to Michael Fleur. Everybody else decided to take out of jobs. And Clint Kubiak chose the Raiders. So they took another guy who's kind of in that world. Like bottom line, that's what happened. I mean, they'll tell you that's not what happened. They closed their eyes, they threw a dart at everybody on the Rams coaching staff.

And they're like, we'll take him. This is like another one of those proximity to Sean McVeigh thing. Still alive and well. He was the offensive coordinator for the Rams. What's going to happen when like actually 80% of the league is just people who coached under Sean and Bay? It's getting close. Yeah. It's kind of crazy.

It's all the Shanahan McVeigh tree. Yes. And it's kind of all spreading. Obviously, Mike LaFleur actually also came up under Shanahan in Cleveland. Went to Atlanta with Shanahan. Then to San Francisco. When Robert Sala was named the head coach in New York for the Jets, he brought LaFleur to be his offensive coordinator. Two seasons in New York, the Jets were second to last in scoring during that stretch.

I think it's hard to kind of... Not last. Not last. That was with Zach Wilson, Mike White, and Joe Flacco at quarterback those two seasons. So it's kind of hard to figure out what exactly he brings to the table. But again, I'm sure he has learned a lot under Sean McVay and Shanahan. And so, you know, this is one of those that I think the name value certainly helps. Matt Luller is a really good coach. What an incestuous division now because other than the Seahawks now, the NSC West is McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan who were really good friends and now Michael Fleur and all these guys have just kind of

known each other for like 20 years. It's like the group chat. It's like the group chat. Everyone's a coach in the NFL now. Yes. It's like the whole squad got famous. It's bizarre. But they mean, they all came up in the NFL. You know, these guys have been coaching for a while. Like Matt Leflare or Michael LeFlear are only 38

years old, but he's been, you know, to a bunch of teams already. I think in terms of situations, Arizona the reason they're the last team to hire somebody is because they're one of the worst situations. Bad ownership group, or at least that's what you've heard from the NFLPA reports over the last couple of years. The quarterback situation is a mess. Kyle or Murray. We don't know exactly what's going on with him. And so, you know, and they've been really bad, honestly, over the last couple years. I looked it up. They have, they're 20 and 39 and won in the NFC West in the last decade.

They have one playoff game in that stretch and they got their asses kicked by the Rams. So this is a tough situation to go to. This is a rebuild and no one gives it shit The Cardinals are like the Dolphins where it's like When they're really bad No one cares because it's really nice and cool to be in Arizona or Miami Where it's like they're actually quietly Maybe a notch above like the maybe not the Browns

But like they're kind of like some shitty teams But people feel worse when cold cities are bad But no one cares when the Cardinals are bad It is weirdly maybe the worst spot in the league right now to coach Like the Kyler Murray situation is a mess He's getting paid a ton of money and you know he's not the guy That's really hard he's under contract still And then not only that

I figure it out pretty quickly too Yes and in your division you're going up against the Niners, the Seahawks, and the Rams. It's the Dragon meme. It is. Like the three really tough, badass-looking dragon. I don't know what you talk yourself into. It's like I don't have the quarterback.

I don't have anything to really build on. And I'm in the hardest division in football. That's the thing with Michael who are getting this job. I think if we learned something about last coaching cycle is the best candidates do actually seem to have confidence in themselves to take good jobs. Like Liam Cohen went to Trevor Lawrence and Brable was like, I didn't come here for the Patriots. I came here for Drake May. And then you have Ben Johnson waited for Kill Williams. And then you have other situations where if a guy's willing to take the Cardinal's job, he's like, I might not get this.

I mean, yeah, Lefleur's probably like, there might not be 10 new coaching openings next year. Let's be honest. This is maybe my shot. I mean, I think he's been kind of in the discussion for a couple of years. So maybe this was inevitable. But yeah, I think this is, it's a tough situation. I think being the really by far worst team in the division is the hardest part of this. I think they can figure out the quarterback situation.

And it's not just the worst team in the division. It is the best division. And the last thing I'll say, but it's just the head coaching openings. It's worth noting that now 10 openings happened and 10 openings have been filled as head coaches. No black coaches were hired. So it's worth noting the disparity. We don't have to get into the entire structural issues in the NFL. But it's worth noting the disparities, I believe, roughly 60% of the players in the NFL are black.

And now the only black coaches in the NFL now are Todd Bowles, who's 62, D'Amico Riance. And then Aaron Glenn, who frankly, I don't know if he's got another. full year left with the Jets. Right. There's only three. So you got one at a 10 head coaches are black and six out of ten players are black. So the disparity widened even though there were 10 openings. Right.

Kyler Murray guaranteed $40 million in 2026. But when you say guarantee. This is from Spotrack. 39.8 million of his 20206 salary is already guaranteed. 17 million of his 2027 salary locks in March 15th. Yeah. So they need to ship him out before that, I think. The cap hit if our team were, yeah, it'd be $42 million in 2026, 36 million in 2026,

36 million in 2027. So the thing, I think they have a couple days to, when it's like three days after the league year, basically they have like a 72-hour window to not pay him that money. So I think he's going to get cut or traded. I don't even know where he goes.

We could do that. After the Super Bowl, we can go through all those teams where Kyler's going to go because it's, shouldn't stay. Probably not. There's not a lot of landing spots anymore

where I feel like he would go. I mean, Miami? Yeah. I don't know. Honestly, the irony is like if he weren't on Arizona, we'd be like he should go to Arizona. So I don't really know what he's going to do. You know, one cool thing is the Giants hired Matt Nagu's or offensive warden.

I thought that was pretty sick, didn't you guys? You like that? Yeah, no, it's great. He wasn't in the Epstein Files, so that was a win. I know. I know. Well, I actually, do you know it's so funny? Did you check actually?

No, I did. I was assuming. I'll check right now. Maybe stupidly. Here, let me search. He's got the search pulled up. Here, I'll pulled up. Um, command to F naggy.

Oh, I've said, I'm not a robot to go into the DOJ. That's all it takes is just, nope, I'm not. They're like, cool. You know what's funny? I'm on the DOJ website trying to search the Epstein files, and the first question is, are you 18 years or older? It's important. Yeah. Yeah.

I understand the irony in that. Okay. Okay, so Hyphitz. First reaction. I see in the doc here you have just written down. Man. My first reaction in the Giants' Iron. Matt Nagy was genuinely, it was like a deep sigh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just, Matt Nagy's just such an uninspiring choice. I mean, first of all, the Ravens were going to take Todd Monkin as the offensive coordinator who John Harbaugh came, was with, you know, Todd Monkhan was a coordinator for the Ravens, and people say whatever you want about Todd Monkin, like Lamar had won an MVP in his first season of Todd Monkin, and then maybe was better the next year when I like Monkman. I thought that would have been a great hire.

And they're, I don't know. I kind of like when guys in their 50s or 60s are still kind of cutting edge with offense and stuff, and you could quibble, but like, I don't know. That would have been exciting. But Todd Mock got the Brown's job. So they had to start from scratch. The fact that Matt Nagy and the chiefs, like Matt Nagy has worked for Candy Reid for a long time.

And I'm sure that's like the origins of this is like, John Harbaugh is an old Andy Reid guy. Matt Nagy's been with Andy Reid forever. I'm sure they go back a long time. But that's my thing is I think it's more about like trust and I know this guy and I believe take Andy Reid's word. But Andy Reid himself decided that they weren't going to work together anymore. And so it's like Matt and Aggie,

I think they were like, oh yeah, I want play calling. Why head coaching? But it's like the Titans were going to hire Matt Nagy. And then they got Robert Saul in the building. They're like, oh, we love this guy. And Nagy, the most charitable thing you could say is he had a solid season with Trubisky. And then, like, that was a bad deck of cards he got dealt. First year in Chicago, you went 12 and 4 with Trubisky, won the division.

Double-doin game. That was a very good defense. Went eight and eight each of the next two years and then went six and 11 with Fields his rookie season. And has not been a head coach since. Could you make the case that this is a guy right who has learned from Andy Reid, who you trust? and like a Josh McDaniel or something like that maybe he could be the offensive coordinator for a while you don't have to worry about like an in and out

he's so shitty no one will poach him that's cool do you believe that as a guy who's been under the chiefs for you know seven of the last 10 years I don't know is the boring answer I don't know how much credit to give Matt Nagy for like Patrick Mahomes or whatever like first he was with the Bears when he got developed anyway I don't know I think it's a little concerning how

uninspiring and frankly like bad the Chief's offense has been for like years. Like, for being honest, the Chief's defense kind of got them to a couple of those Super Bowls and Mojams had to make some stuff happen. But it actually reminds me kind of like the Eli's Super Bowls

where it was like the Giants' offense at times was at its best in two minute drill. And it's like the Chiefs when they're winning, how many games do they win in the last play of the game two years ago? Six times. Like, I don't know. I look at Matt Nagy.

And I mean, did we just blow past the thing here that the Chiefs literally were just like, yeah, we're not going to have you be the other. We're not going to have you anymore. They're like, we should go our separate ways. and they can spin that as like, oh, now I'm like, I think... Right.

They replaced him with some guy that wasn't on their staff. So it wasn't even, you know, it was like internal thing. Right. So, and I remember, you know, Reed was talking about this in interviews. He was saying essentially the reason

they brought back the enemy is because he's like going to be more honest to the players and... No, he's screaming. He's the fucking, right. He's like a... Andy Reid's good cop.

You know, yeah, he's going to be mean. He's going to be a, like a drill sergeant, essentially. That's exactly what the enemy is. And get them in, like, whip them into shape. Like, what does that say about Nagy? I mean, maybe that's not what Jackson Dart needs, but I think it is just bizarre that we're, you know,

he literally just left. What the hell happened to Sean Peyton and Bonnix's. Yeah, this is something that happened a while ago a couple days ago, but we haven't really talked about it. I thought it was very interesting and a little bit bizarre. Basically, in Denver, Sean Payton had a, you know, end of season press conference. And in that press conference, he talked about,

Bo Nix's ankle and basically what he said quote what was found was a condition that was predisposed they always find a little more when they go in Wait do we have the audio We have some audio hold on let me finish this though And then so basically he said Peyton said it wasn't a matter of If it was a matter of when

That's what he that was his read on the ankle injury Basically this was always going to happen And then he said something even weirder Yeah which we've got the audio here He said he had one in high school And then he said he had one at Auburn and I said, I didn't realize that. I said, if I don't know that, I wouldn't have drafted you.

But he's a tough. He'll rise up for the next challenge and we'll go from there. When you say he had one, he means ankle surgery. Right. Or ankle injury, ankle surgery. And, you know, the little laugh, he's like, I wouldn't have drafted you. But then Bo Nix responded in was like, he shouldn't speak on my surgeries. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

Yeah, he said a quote, I don't think he should really share how many surgeries. have had in the past, to be honest with. He doesn't even really know that. Man, not great vibes from a team that lost in depressing fashion in the title game. Not the best thing to say to your quarterback who just broke his ankle that like, wouldn't have drafted you if I knew you had this problem. That's reassuring. Thanks, Coach.

This is the worst day of my life. Yeah, it strikes me so much because he sandwiched it in between. He's a man of God. He believes God has a plan for him. Yes. If I would have known about this, I wouldn't have. drafted this fucking bum. You know, more or less he said that.

And, you know, it just kind of got me thinking maybe that relationship isn't all that strong. Something that high fits had alluded to in the past. But I feel like that's just Sean Peyton, right? It's like, Sean Payton's, is it for Sean Peyton's relationship with anybody that's strong? Everybody. No, but everybody hates this guy. No, but here's the thing. Sean Payton, there is no coach that is more calculated with how they interact with the media.

And even if sometimes it's emotional or big dick swinging, like when Sean Payton talks to the media, It's with purpose. And I think it can come off as, oh, he's just talking off the cuff. So what's he trying to communicate here? I think he's laying the groundwork for fucking... That Knicks ain't the guy? I think Bo Nix and Sean Payton, like, I think they kind of hate each other. And it was papered over by a 13-game winning streak.

And winning fixes everything. Look what has. Lose one game. Look what happens. Like, I'm just saying, like, this is the, like, that happens all the time in every team sports. Winning fixes everything and then losing things come out. They lost one game.

And then again, we talk all the time. Like you lose a Super Bowl, things come apart. Yeah, and the closer you get, the more painful it is. You got Kevin Durant to your freaking Warriors and Thunder lost in the Western Conference finals. Like, the closer you get and you don't get there, the more painful it is. This is like a subset of when we say losing a Super Bowl breaks teams. Not making a Super Bowl, the way the Broncos didn't make the Super Bowl, like you start

shifting blame. I'm just saying, I think middle of the season, Bonix and Sean Payton had issues. And then they won 12 straight games. It was after that Raiders Broncos game where they won like 10-6. and it was like the worst game of the entire year. And then they won 12 straight games and it never came up again. But I think they have issues

and I think that's not some off the cough comment. That's like he doesn't... There's issues. It's very reminiscent of the way he was sort of talking about Russell Wilson in the media and he's like annoyed with him and everything. There was also moments during the season where Bo Necks and him were yelling at each other

on the sidelines. Yeah, clearly screaming. Because Sean Payton's so whatever. He old now, he takes 12 seconds to call his like 100 word play and Bo Nex's like get me the play. He's film mustering the play call? Yeah, they also fired their offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi and then promoted the quarterback's coach Davis Webb because I think he was

getting a coordinator job somewhere so they kind of had to ax Lombardi and they'd rather keep Joe Lombardi than let Davis Webb go. But it's also, I think Jay Gruden posted this where it's like, imagine being Joe Lombardi and you almost got a backup quarterback to the Super Bowl, but then Sean Pate makes the decision to kick a go front and forth instead of going 10-0. And then Sean Peyton like instead of taking a 10-0 lead turns it over on downs and then Joe Lombardi gets fired. And anyway, it's, it's, I love all these. Yeah. There's a lot of people that are will to kind of go on the record. It just feels like Peyton has just terrible interpersonal skills.

He's a great play caller and a great mind, but he has no idea how to have relationships. Saying that at a press conference, and you're right, and maybe it is deliberate, and he's trying to just like say, fuck you to Bo Nix. But that's just terrible.

There's been some funny conspiracy theories about this Nix thing happening. Oh, should I type him into the website? Yeah, sure. Make sure you hit the 18. Yeah, yeah. No, but basically there was some report last year, last week or whatever, or two weeks ago that he actually hurt himself celebrating in the locker room, which was, I think, demonstrably false. You could see him wincing in on the sideline after you.

You totally could. But, and then there was also, I think this is funny in my tinfoil hat thing is that Peyton actually really wanted to start Stitton just to prove that he was the greatest coach alive. He's like, I could take him back. This is every coach does this. This is like John Gruden when he was with the Raiders, signed freaking Nathan Peterman, just because. all coaches want to do is prove that other coaches, missus players, but they know how to do it. Okay.

Should we get to prop bets? Let's do it. There's a Super Bowl. There is a Super Bowl. I don't know if you guys have heard. So we're going to go through the prop bets. And again, if you don't know what prop bets are, they're kind of like if you wanted to lose money in even more spectacular ways. I do.

Let's do this. Or win, or win large totals. Look, you know, we're talking about gambling here. You got to understand, like sometimes you got to look at the same. stuff is, you know, sometimes you're not putting down bets and gambling. You're spending. You're spending to auxiliary, you know, to accentuate your time. You're having a better time. You're putting a coin in and getting up on the ride and going up and down and around. You're having fun. It's all good things. You might not make the money back. Having said that, we're going to win money on

this because the coin toss is where I want to start. And you can bet money on the coin toss. It's a, uh, you put down a dollar with 95 cents for heads or tails. For getting Super Bowl for a second. When you guys actually call a toss, what do you call? Heads. Heads for sure, me. You tails guy? No, just whatever comes to... Tails never fails.

Wow. I have no formula. I've called heads every time since I was six. I don't think I've called Tails in my entire life. And you've won 50% of the time. Since you were six? Six does that mean? Exactly six.

You remember my first coin toss? Yeah, I think I lost Torantos in kindergarten with tails. Actually, I'm not kidding. Hey, I'm not kidding. I actually was flipping coins with Calvin the other day for the first time ever. Heads. Betting the coin toss is the perfect encapsulation of gambling because there's like there is literally no edge.

And it's like, you can bet a dollar and win 96 cents. Like, you don't even get an even return. And it's still like, yeah, I'm going to do it. There's something meta about. That's great. It's also funny because they don't even do heads and tails. They do like, here's one side. It's like the AFC.

This is the shield. Yeah. So you. Heads though, right? Ooh, I don't know. Maybe it'll be tails. Stop. It can't be tails.

It could be tails. Okay, fine. It's a joke. Wait, so what are we doing? I think we should build a ringer fantasy football show prop sheet. Okay. Like, like, doing the mock draft to see how many things you hit. We're locking in heads.

But I, obviously, I'm kidding about the heads tales thing. Like, you know, who knows? However, actually, though, we're going to wait. It's the national anthem. Oh, my God, we're starting there. I would love to do it. So let's get in the national league. This is Craig's whole year builds up to this.

Yeah, Charlie Puth is singing the national anthem this year. You know, so funny. I've never said their name out loud, and I was waiting for you to do it. Because I didn't know. Can you explain to. Puth or Puth or Puth. I've never heard the name Charlie Puth in your wife. I didn't know how to, confidence to say it out loud, I was a little afraid.

How is that possibly that? P-U-T-H. P-U-T-H. I'm just saying, how have you never heard his name? Why is that ridiculous? It's not about that. It's how have you never heard of his name. If I said Poof and it wasn't Puth, I would never hear the fucking end of it. I guess it could be Puth.

Could it, though? I just, wait on. Hold on. I guess I don't have an issue with him saying I don't know how to spell it. I think it's remarkable that he's never heard the name, Charlie Puth, outlaw. spoken to him. That's crazy. He hasn't come up a lot. He's very famous. What are you talking about? Well, that's what I was going to ask. He sings the Fast

and Fury song we've been talking about for a month. That's him? Yes. Oh, long time? See you again. That's him. I knew I knew him from somewhere. I didn't know. I knew I knew him from somewhere. Can you explain to an elder millennial who Charlie Puth is? Hold on. I'm tone deaf.

To a young millennial who Charlie Puth is. What is it? What's the word they use for a really old millennial? Geriatric millennial. Saved by the Bell millennial to be PC. I mean, he's just like a, he's a singer-songwriter. He sings the Paul Walker song. But isn't he, doesn't he do something on Instagram where, or TikTok where he's like

improvising weird shit? He can create songs out of random sounds. He's very good. He's made like, the last few years on TikTok, he's gotten really, really popular because he can like, he shows people how to make songs from their bedroom. He's really good at it. Okay. Doesn't he have some crazy ability, like pitch?

Yeah, he can go really high. I can't remember. There's like something where he can recognize pitch and only a certain segment of people can do that. Oh, interesting. Yeah, he's like a musical savant. Right. And he's really good voice.

Like he can register like hear sounds other people can hear like a bat. He can be like, that's a C sharp or something. I don't know. That's cool. But yeah, anyway. I don't really get pitch.

Well, you're tone deaf. I know. Anyway. So can I hum it because I'll get it wrong and we transform. I don't think so. I don't think to see you again song? Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Hmm-hmm. The lawyers are like, that is fine. No problems there. No one could identify that. Okay, so let's get it. National Anthem.

How long will it take Charlie Puth to sing the National Anthem? The line currently is 121.5 seconds. So two minutes, one second and a half. Okay. He's never saying the National Anthem on a large stage before. There's really no example of him doing this. Right. However, so I don't know if you guys remember last year

when we watched in the Spotify theater. We were freaking out about John Battiste. His line was about the same. It was two minutes. It was one second less. And he literally went right through it. He went exactly two minutes. Right.

And it was, I don't even remember which side they landed on, but it was right on it. Because you couldn't really tell with him with Batiste. Charlie Puth has name spelled like it sounds. Batiste? Yeah. Sure. Puth has been doing interviews about this that I've been watching. He had an interview with Ryan Seekrest.

And he's the second person to ever sing the national anthem at the Super Bowl since other than Whitney Houston. and he wants to do a nod to Whitney Houston. What? Wait, sorry, say that again. He's the second, what? He's the second New Jersey native to say national anthem other than Whitney Houston.

And so he said he wants this to be a nod to Whitney Houston in a way. I'm not really sure what that means, but what he said was, he's like, I don't think people think of me as a vocalist and I want them to see me as a vocal. He's about to waste a lot of our time.

He's the guy, yeah, he's the guy karaoke. He's like, I'm going to do Celine Dion. I'm like, okay, it's about you. He's going to have like a little fills here and there. He's going to go on this little whole, tangent. He said, I want to show people

I can do it. People don't think of me as a vocalist. It's going to be very good. With respect, he got picked to sing at the Super Bowl. Like, clearly they think of you as a vocalist. Don't people think of him as a vocalist? Well, you thought him, what did you think of? You thought of him as like a little TikTok guy. Pitch Instagram guy. Yeah. That's fair. So, pitch Instagram back to sing. The problem is, like,

sure, you can say you want to nod to Whitney Houston. Whitney Houston is like the greatest voice in the history of the world. It's pretty hard to match that. And I watched hers. And hers was, and hers was one minute and 56 seconds. So five seconds shorter than the line. Oh, so this is like the Seilocks.

The Seawks could win but cover. He could beat Winnie Houston become shorter than number. So I actually think I like the under. If he wants to try to match her style, maybe he won't like, we'll embellish and take his time and he'll honor her and sing it the way she did. So I think I kind of like the under.

Also, I don't think he has the pipes of Whitney Houston. So I don't think he can hang on those notes for super long. The piano thing is interesting. If he plays the piano, I don't know if that will slow down the song. It's going to be fucking around on the piano. But the piano... Wait, Houston, not on piano. But isn't the most basic thing here

is I don't care who you are? You said he's never seen the national anthem at any event? Not to my knowledge. So he's just going to do the Super Bowl? Isn't it like he'll be nervous and speed it up? Like, you don't slow it down

when you're nervous. Realistically, your process speeds up. I think that's right. I don't know, maybe he won't be nervous. Because the other one, though... I don't think he can be nervous. Yeah, that's true. The other one here is, will he forget a...

Will Charlie Puth... God, it's so funny to P-U-T-H-Puth. Will any word be forgotten? No? Is it just me? Yes. You think it should be Puth? I was worried it was. Do you think it should be Puth?

No, Puth is just Puth. I don't know. It's fun to say Poof. All right. The point is, will any words be forgotten or omitted? Yes, it's five to one. And if you're nervous, you've never done it before, the odds go up. But that would shorten it.

True, that would shorten it. I think I like the under. Whitney Houston, minute 56, first time doing it. Do you know what the, do you know what the, average over under is. Is it always the same? No, it changes over here. I know. So, like, is this a high or low? I think it's a little low. Okay. And the line has dropped. It was like two minutes and five

seconds and it's now down to two minutes and one second. Really? Wow. God, this is... All right. So, are we taking the over there? We're taking the under. I like the under. Okay. Under and heads. Okay. Super Bowl MVP. Wait, there's one more national anthem thing I want to hit. Hit me. I saw this. Um, who will be shown first during the national anthem? Stefan Diggs or Jackson Smith and Jigba? I just kind of think the broadcast is going in Jigba.

I think that's true. For multiple reasons. Like, not only isn't Jigba a better player, but perhaps for other things going on behind the scenes with Stefan Diggs, I'm like, I just don't know if they're going to show him during the National Anthem. It's even odds. I would take, I would take in Jigba. Can you bet if someone's going to cry during the National Anthem?

You have to bet on individual play. I think the crying is like, do you think, yeah, do you think we're going to have a crier? Yeah, I think we're going to have a crier. I think we're going to have a crier. I think they find the crier and then show them. Who do you think the crier is? John Schneider

It's usually like Seahawks GM No way He's not I think it's usually like a hard Defensive player Like it's scary when you see like a Like a badass cry

It's gonna be some like Backup Tamp Lawrence Yeah Tank Lawrence Sheds a tear You're like fuck This game's over Do you remember who was the

The Broncos running back No Sean Marino No show Marino No Shomer yeah Craiest tier I've like Welling up in his eyes The Fire Hydrant

Also Schneider was there For the other Super Bowls So it's like Why is he crying? Right? I don't know. It's got to be a player who's there for the first time. It's just my gut feeling.

Okay. They probably won't show. So anyway, if you see the bet JSN or Diggs who they show first, go JSC. Great, great. All right. All right. So speaking of JASN, MVP odds.

DK., you texted me earlier today that you like Jackson Smith and Jake by the receiver for Seattle and MVP at, like, call it five to one. Yep. I think there's a strong chance. Just the way that he's been playing, the PC plays in their offense.

eighth most yards in season ever. Incredible. And the Patriots over the season have not been very good against number one receivers. So that's kind of the end of the analysis. I mean, there's not really much more to it.

Okay, all right. Here's my fear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Concise. Can I give you my fear? Yeah, of course. If Jackson Smith and Jigba has a good enough game

to be considered MVP, that probably means Sam Donald also had a lot of yards and touchdowns, and usually then just goes to the quarterback. Like, it would have to be a very specific situation for Njigba to have like 160 yards and two touchdowns,

But Darnold has a mediocre game where they wouldn't give it to Darnold. You know what I mean? Yeah. Vandal, same game parlay. We parlayed Darnold to throw a pick with JSN. Right. That's kind of what I was going. It would have to be kind of like a Darnold throws for 230 yards, two touchdowns and a pick, and most of those

yards just go to JSN. Right. Which I guess is possible. But it's hard. I mean, obviously, it mostly just goes to quarterbacks. So JSA would have to have a uniquely incredible game and Donald would have to be pretty mediocre. I got to be honest.

I think the MVP, I like some of the odds in this game, but I think the MVP odds kind of suck. like I actually would almost like I'm looking at some of the odds like JSN at five to one all these things just take Donald or Drake May don't know the other thing I like the other thing I like no actually I think you should take uh Devin Witherspoon there we go no I'm not kidding I kind of almost want to bet on once every five to 10 years they do give the MVP to a defender who like does a pick six like I mean what does it and they give it to what's his name in New England when they last played believe it or believe it or not no he didn't get it well that's because they vote before the fucking game ends they give it no Brady actually that Brady got it and he should. Malcolm Butler didn't win that year?

No. But they definitely had already voted MVP, but Brady was the MVP. That was like actually what a Brady's game. It was Brady that year. And I remember talking about that. It's because they vote before. Right, right, right.

Well, this is like... So, dude, yeah. People don't know what we're talking about. So Super Bowl MVP is voted by the people who are at... Like, there's certain credentialed media members that get to vote. But they also want to get on the elevator to go down to the press conference.

It's like pencils down in the final three minutes of the game, which makes no sense because that's when the game is decided half the time. So the Super Bowl security is so hard to get down the elevator that like once my Apple watch it's stuck. They need to change this rule. It's ridiculous. The Rams one, I'm not trying to take Cooper Cup Super Bowl MVP away,

but we were at that game in the press box. And when Aaron Donald tackled Joe Burrow on fourth down to end the game and sacked him and stands up and it's like ring me pointing his ring figure, which is like the coolest celebration I've ever seen. Everyone had already voted for the, or half the people had voted for Cooper Cup already. I'm like, oh, I kind of think Aaron Donald should win the word.

But people were in the elevator. And so that's kind of, anyway, Malcolm Smith had a pick six of the Seahawks when they beat the Broncos. He got the MVP. I think Dexter Jackson for the box said to pick six, like this is 20 years ago and got the MVP, but I kind of just, I don't know man, Ernest Jones, some of these

random CX defenders are like 150 or 200 to 1 and I'm like, I don't know, man. So here's a scenario where and this is kind of, this goes along with what I think the game is kind of look like and the Patriots Rams Super Bowl from whatever year that was. 2019, 17 or whatever.

18? 19 Super Bowl 18. It was 2019. So, Julian Edelman was the Super Bowl MVP that game. And Brady was 21 to 35, 262 yards. He had no touchdowns in a pick. It was 13 to 3. It was 13 to 3.

Were Super Bowl, I think of my life time suck? That was like the least memorable. I kind of do think it will suck. I think it'll be like a defensive battle for the most part. But Julian Edelman had 10 catches, 141 yards. Yeah, I just don't know if the game sucks. That's kind of depressing. Touchdown scores?

I got to tell you, not to be. Debbie Downer. I don't, the touchdown score, I don't like any of the bets for the touchdown scoring because I'm looking at, I'm just being honest. Like, the juice has been going to go and he's like, I don't like this. I don't know if these, I don't know if we're going to make money on these. I don't know. I'm just saying, like, if you look at some of these, like the touchdown score,

like, AJ Barner, who I know he does the touch push for Seattle, but he's like two to one. And he's, you know what I mean? I'm kind of like. I like that. Oh, I kind of hate it. Yeah, he's, I like it. I think we need a prerequisite where after any bet, we all go, oh, I like that. Yeah, that's good. Well, it's like, the Seahawks defense to score touchdown is five to one, where I'm like, all right, it's a fucking defense.

That doesn't even include the special teams. I know. There's like an AJ Barn. Sal and Bill we're talking about, there's an AJ Barner. He's like plus two 30 to score a touchdown. I'm like, that's pretty tough odds for AJ Barner. What do you think, D.K.? I like that.

Thanks. Should we just throw out stuff we like or what do you want to do? So on that note, though, I want to throw out something on that, on the touchdown. Okay. The Patriots might win this game and just started a 20-year cloud of darkness. that we almost live amongst. However, I wanted to embrace the idea

that what if D.K actually has a great day and the Seahawks win and the Seahs dominate? On the touchdown thing, the Patriots to not score a touchdown is like 20 to 1. And I was wondering, what if Stephen A. Smith is right? And this game is 60 to nothing Seahawks. And I wanted to just entertain the idea

that like the Patriots are a really good team and the Seahawks are a historic team, which again, once every 10 years, you're like the Ravens Giants met up and the Giants didn't score a touchdown and like the Patriots, and they scored, what, eight points? And it's like, would it be really crazy if Will Campbell, the rookie left tackle and the rookie left guard in the second year quarterback, they just kind of get like three field goals and this game is over.

What are the odds? It's 20 to one. I kind of like that one. Oh, I like that too. Yeah. Not better than... I mean, I would very much like that. Yeah, no.

Right. I actually kind of like that better than any of the individual bets. Other than I guess you could do like, Rommandre it, you win a dollar 60 cents if you put a dollar down. I'd rather actually just not score at all. What is the Patriots? They've averaged like 15 points a game in the playoffs because they're playing these very good defenses. I mean, they couldn't move the ball for three quarters

against the Chargers. They couldn't really move the ball for large sections against the Texans. Even pre-Snow, first half against Denver, they couldn't do a lot. I mean, the Patriots won that game because the Broncos, because Jared Sten threw the ball backwards while running backwards inside the 20.

15 points in the game. And now they're playing Seattle. Yeah. I don't think it's crazy. So I kind of, I feel like I'm reverse jinxing the Patriots into a Super Bowl win, but I actually think they might have might not score a touchdown.

I have one that's kind of touchdown related. Please. Player to score the most points in the game, Jackson Smith and Jigba is 9 to 1 for this. And the rationale is if he scores two touchdowns, he's going to win this, he's going to win this, I think. And if you just look at his line to score two touchdowns, the odds for him to score two touchdowns is plus 650.

This is plus 900. So I'm like, if he's going to win this, it's because he scores two touchdowns. And in theory, he could, I guess, score one and still technically win. it, but he's going to win it if he scores two touchdowns. So you're getting 9 to 1 versus 6 to 1 for him to score two touchdowns, essentially. I think the problem would be if anyone in New England scores

two touchdowns, it's tied and you don't get it, right? Yeah, but I guess you would just, you push. And the kickers usually are the one that win that, right? Yeah, and it's like for, if JSN scores two touchdowns, that's 12 points, it'd be four field goals and that would still be a tie. They would need five field goals? I don't know. I kind of like it.

Nine to one, basically, for JASN to have two touchdowns. I'm into that. The only one I wonder is... You guys hated that one. fuck. No, I like that one. I can bounce back. That's good. That's good. I like that. We can salvage this, Craig. Yeah. All right. Um, the offensive ball carrier to run the longest total distance in a single play from scrimmage. Shaheed. Um, Shaheed. Wait, wait, sorry. I knew that again. From scrimmage.

Because there are bets on yards after the catch, air yards for receiver and then from scrimmage. So you talk about like, longest play or you, they actually need the ball behind the line of scrimmage? It has to be a catch or a carry. Just longest catch. Like a 40-yard catch is 40 yards, because they're actually, believe it or not, I found breakdowns this year. Yes. Okay. Now you're confusing me. Offensive ball carrier to run the longest total distance in a single play from scrimmage.

And then it says loss if no reception or carries. Okay. You see why I'm confused? That's just the longest play? Yes. Okay. Yes. Right?

Does it include catches or just carries? Ball carrier. Play from scrimmage. Okay. This is why we get paid the big bucks. Trayvion Henderson is 40 to 1 That seems wrong

That seems like one of the most Expulsive players JASN is the best odds He's 3 to 1 Rashid Sheet's 6 to 1 Just put it down We don't need here 40 to 1 Trayvon Henderson

This guy bust the 60 yard run Every other game Put it in yellow or whatever Highlight it The sole That's on our card I'm back You're back

You're so bad I don't even need hitting here anymore Do you need to know this? No No I dare you That's only That's premium great

Not ceremonial What do you guys want You want nerdy bets that I actually think will win, do you want, like, dumb bets or do you want things that I just thought was, I was just scrolling and I just stopped and thought about. Whatever calls to you.

The thing, so when I was just scrolling and I was kind of like just looking, the one that I just, there were a few that I just was like, huh. And the first one was just total interceptions in the game. Okay. Over under one and a half. And over one and a half is plus money.

You would win, you know, it's like, you know, 11 bucks to, you put down 10. And I'm like, it's San Darnold, Drake May, and I need two picks, and you're getting, like, yeah. They're saying it's favored to have under just one pick in the game or zero. Yeah. How confident are you that Sam Donald's not going to throw an interception in this game?

Not real confident. Doesn't it seem like, in retrospect, you're like, I wish I'd bet over one and a half picks when you watch the game? I like it. Similar to that, I had one total QB sacks taken by both teams. Five and a half is the over-under. Kind of like the over on that. Both offensive lines are at a disadvantage, I believe, to the respective defensive lines. I think the Seahawks are going to be kind of nailing it into Donald's head not to turn the ball over this week and just like let the defense take care of business.

So I could see him take a couple of sacks in this game and then we know May has been taking a lot of sacks. So I kind of like that one as well. Lockwood. Just kind of like a defensive battle. Both quarterbacks could get that drill in their head of the don't. turn the ball over and drag me also does a good job of scrambling to get like a one yard sack right where it doesn't actually matter that much but he gets back up field a little bit i like that the the darnald may stuff i was just i mean i don't know dk i don't know i feel bad asking this but

will darnold throw an interception is minus 130 mm-hmm will don't throw two or more picks is like four to one we can't speak that oh he's not going to do that okay i don't know to check hopefully i I mean, he hasn't thrown a pick in three games. Right. That should be stated. He hasn't thrown an interception in the playoffs. He didn't throw an interception week 18 against the Niners. I'm a knock on one guy.

Okay. Let me do nerdy ones that I think will win and then we can get the dumb shit that's more fun. I actually do think, not to bore you guys with actual analysis, but I do think that this game, I just think it's going to come down to the Patriots. Defenders are like specialists that can't really do multiple things. So I just feel like on play action Christian Why would you throw Christian Gilles

And Carlton gave us all time When Robert Splain's out there And like He can't cover anybody And I just think this whole game is going to be like Can they get A.J. Barner and Elijah Royo And Ken Walker onto Roberts Blaine And also Ellis and all these like throwback linebackers

Who should be wearing neck rolls I don't know why I just have a feeling That Trayvion and Henderson is going to matter in this game And all of his numbers All of the odds are great Like Trayvon and Henderson to have 60 plus rushing yards is plus 900. Yeah, he just hasn't been

a really big part of that. No, he had five rushing yards last week, which is totally fair. I mean, 60 plus rushing yards. He's 9 to 1 to have 60 plus rushing yards. I mean, again, he can do that in one play. He has had more than 60 rushing yards in 50% of his game

since he became a full-time player. This is why Mike Vrabel kept Ramandre even when he kept fumbling is because Ramandre's the bigger back and also like the Seox defense is so... The whole thing's built around actually stopping the run up front. Like all those guys are incredible at it. It's like a prerequisite.

And I also think, honestly, I think the same issue with Ken Walker is like the past prediction. It's like what the Seahawks do in defense is so complicated that I think, frankly, they're worried that like Trayvon can't protect Drake May. So I think that Remindra is going to be on the field more. But that's also the thing with Ken Walker in this game too, where it's like, I think if Ken Walker goes out as a receiver, I think it's actually a huge advantage for the Sealk. So I think the Patriots almost might blitz sometimes just to keep Ken Walker in as a blocker.

Because I don't know, there's going to be a lot of stunting all the stuff on the D-line. Even Trayvion Henderson, 25 to have 25 receiving yards is 8 to 1. I'm like, we're talking one screen past him. Right, right. I'm going to hit all those, and one of them will hit. I like it. I like that. Speaking of Trivion, who we talked about is Jersey all year,

the Jersey number of the first touchdown score over under 11 and a half. Oh, I love these. God, I love these. So, is J.S.N. 10 or 11? He's 11. So that's the thing, it's over under 11 and half. And this is for both teams. So what that means is... You get Drake Bad.

It's, yeah, so you get Cooper Cup and Jackson Smith and Jigba and Ken Walker, or under 11 and half on the Seahawks and then the Patriots and literally everybody else in the Seahawks is over. But then the Patriot Shaheed. You get Diggs and Booty

and Drake May. So it's any touchdown? The first touchdown. Rushing or receiving, yeah. I like the under, I think. I kind of like the under too. You get Kim Walker and JSN. I think we should lock that one in.

Sure. That one's good. Under. Okay. Can we get any important stuff? Of course. What color liquid will be poured on the winning coach?

Also, I don't like the way they phrase it. Liquid. What color liquid is just a... They can't say Gatorade because of the branding. Branding. So I learn... So the orange is 3 to 1, purple, 6 to 1. Yellow is 2.5 to 1.

Blue is 2 and 1 2.5 to 1. Clear is 7 to 1. And red pink is like 50 to 1. And I've learned why red is never used. Oh, why? Do you guys want to guess? Red Gatorade's never used. Stains?

Stains the white jersey? No. It's someone... It's a trainer email. Makes it looks like they're bleeding? Yeah, it's when they throw up. They don't want to guess if it's Gatorade or blood. So they don't give players

This is high school at every level They don't give guys red gatorade Yeah, yeah Which makes sense Why can't they just keep I mean Can't they just make the gatorade that you drink a different color

And still pour red gatorade On the coach at the end? Why would you have red gatorade If you don't want player to drink it? You have a separate gatorade tank For pouring But what if they drink it? They don't really do that

That's kind of crazy Well, how can they ensure it's full by the end of the game? What if it's empty? Because I think they keep it full. I think they refilling it They refilling it? They refilling it?

Probably. All right. There's like trainers and whatnot. I have a lot of data on which colors hit and when. I don't know if you have

any questions. I do. Yeah. So orange, between 2010 and 2016, orange was the dominant color appearing four times in seven years,

and it remains the most frequent color since the tradition started in the early 2000s. I want to say when the Seahawks won the Super Bowl, it was orange. Yes.

Yellow slash green after a decade without an appearance. It's made a decent comeback, mainly by the Eagles. The Eagles are a big yellow green. And the Chiefs were a purple team.

The thieves were purple both times in the last three years when they won, which is weird and random. Blue has become basically the heavyweight. Blue's my favorite flavor of Gatorade. Blue has appeared in four of the last 11 Super Bowls, including back-to-back in 2021 and 2022. And it is often a choice for teams with blue in their uniforms, both being the Patriots and the Seahawks.

I wonder, so look, I'm looking at this picture of Pete Carroll getting doused by the Gatorade. I'm wondering if they had, it was like a yellow or it depends on how. how you're seeing it looks kind of orange here but anyway I think that's orange when you say that's orange oh you're right yeah um but I wonder if that was the Broncos it was four times in seven years between 2010 and 2016 orange interesting so what do we think

well blue there's blue in both jerseys yeah blue it's great my brother likes yellow though what do you guys like I like blue I'll do blue let's do blue okay plus 260 odds is it the favorite Yeah, it's high They're all kind of orange, blue and yellow

We're all kind of like the same It's a favorite for a reason, baby Let's ride the blue Blue just tastes the coldest You know? Can we get, so our favorite thing last year Was next gen stats They now have the numbers

On the how fast players travel Which we learned when Travis Kelsey's over under It was 14 enough miles an hour To which we were like How fast is 14 and a half miles an hour And we found out that like Then we ran on the treadmills In jeans

Yeah, yeah At 12 It didn't even go up that high Unfortunately I think it only got to 10 Awesome Houston Hooper, who bullied Craig in high school, is over under, that's what he says.

Donned down your ass. We didn't even go to high school together. He doesn't even know he's done. Bullied him. Middle school. Stuffed him in a locker. He did. It happened.

15 and a half mile. I didn't use my locker. 15 and never used the locker. How about that? I never used the locker. Trauma. Because we had blocked schedule. Give you a swirl.

You only had three classes a day. I didn't need all the books in the locker. That's why there was room for you to fit. Didn't get stuffed in there. 15 and a half miles an hour. Too big. Do you think Austin Hooper, your middle school bully can run 15 miles an hour.

You think he protests too much? Yeah, I think he can run 15 miles an hour. Who? Do you think he will? No, the key, though, is ball carrier. You have to have the ball. No, shot. Which is like, you can run in a straight line.

With space to run with the ball? Austin Hooper's not going to have 20 yards to run. So, like, the answer. He's not. He's not a lot of Cooper Cups 16 and a half, Hunter Henry's 16 and a half. He's got to catch and fall down. I don't like any of those.

She heeds over under 19 and a half, which I think that would be as a punt return. Well, how quickly do you reach top speed on the punt Or on a kickoff return. Pretty quickly. You kind of think of the kickoff return, you'd think she could get to 20. Yeah.

But 22 is like a full sprint. Yeah. 22 is like full sprint. Yeah. And this is 19. The problem is on kickoffs. You're not just running in it. Like he's reading the defense.

He's trying to find a lane. It's not full sprint. You know? It is a little, I don't think I like these. Part of me is like, should we just bet the under on all of them? Yeah.

We should just bet the under on every prop. We probably win. Well, my plan for a ringer one of them. seven next episode is to bet the under on everything. Shaheed was the 11th, 11th fastest player this year all season. But that's the problem is that includes a kickoff return touchdown. Yeah, exactly. It's an 87-yard TD.

Right, but it's like, you have to bank on that for him to hit that speed. What are the odds that happen? He has like one catch a game. Yeah. What could it cost? $10? Yeah. Cooper Cups is 16 and a half miles an hour.

I'm like, is he going to get to full speed? No. It's a ball carrier? I don't think so. I like the enders on these. All right. What about this? Any player to record over 100 receiving yards?

What about no? I like, dude. How about no? You crazy fat bastard? How about no? So Dr. Heaveal. Craig's like motors over to us. How about no?

How about you? Crazy Dutch bastards. Wow. Yeah. Now I can't say no to that. Who's going to have 100 yards if it's not. If JSN doesn't, I feel like you clear this. JSN's over under is 95.

in this game, which is ridiculous. Again, if the Patriots just take that safety and scoot them over JSN's way, maybe JSN has like 67 receiving yards. Oh, is that how they fix it? Yeah, and then it's like, we're cooking. I don't really see anyone else being a huge threat for 100 receiving yards, do you?

No. No, there's no one else really. Honestly, it's plus odds to say no to somebody having 100 plus receivers. How about no? Crazy Dutch Bass. How about no, you're crazy Dutch. I think that's good.

Lock that in. Hell yeah. Dr. Evil. What does he say? Can I have something gold? Can I paint you gold? I paint you gold. How about no?

Oh my God. I think he wants the skin for his collection. Do we want to stick with football or dumb? Dumb's been more fun. All right. Super Bowl MVP mentions. Oh, I have thoughts about this one. Who they mentioned in the post-game speech.

if it's Sam Darnold so right now the odds are all over the place except the heavy favorite is God or Jesus first of course Sam Darnold does not mention God I've watched his last three pressers he doesn't mention God or Jesus Went to USC

Godless City Los Angeles That's right Downtown LA is a godless city Godless city And every single time he usually thanks his teammates first and then the coaching staff So the teammates is plus 150

We could sprinkle on that That's even odds. But the coaching staff is 22 to 1. So if he just accidentally, instead of saying, I want to think my teammates in the coaching staff,

if he says, I want to think my coaching staff and my teammates, bam, 22 to 1. Can I go further? This could be the one that brings us in the green. Ownership is 45 to 1.

Now, that sounds crazy. Why would Sam Donald... For betting on me, for taking a chance on me. And the owner gets the trophy. Jody Allen, who owns the team. She's the one who will,

if the Seelix win, she gets handed the trophy. So she's the one actually standing next to Sam Darnold when he gets this trophy. So all he needs to do is be looking and he just sees I want to thank Mrs. Allen, the owner, the coach is the, like he's literally

staring at her probably. She's going to be on his left or right, 45 to 1. Not bad. I feel confident he's going to the first thing he'll say is like, man, I just want to thank these guys. Like I couldn't have done without these guys. Which is plus 150, you can make money. You know what I wish we could bet? Fandole, let us know you can do this. I want to bet on Sam Donald to not

mention God at all. Well, if it's, yeah, I mean, minus 200 is crazy. That's just betting on anyone but Sam Donald winning, who will probably mention God. Anybody. No, at the other, everyone else kind of loves God. For sure. Yeah. Drake May loves God. He would definitely bring up God. He's super into God. Yeah.

J.S.N. It does say Jody Allen will be present for Sunday Super Bowl. Because when you said that, I was like, I don't know, I don't, I don't, she doesn't really hang out at the games, I feel like. Well, when you can win a Super Bowl, you should show up. Maybe she will. That'd be a crazy rich person moves. You're like, you want to win the Super Bowl, get the trove? I'm good.

I love that one. I think that, dude, I like that a lot. I love prop. Can I go through, wait, can we go through, I want to do a little fan fiction here. Because I don't think I've hidden this. I know the Patriots are actually kind of, if you remove the sign in the door,

it's actually a nice story with Mike Rabel and Drake May. It's actually a really likable collection of guys and the Patriots, except for two people. But like, they're a pretty nice story. But they're the Patriots. It's like, fuck them. Like we just saw this movie for 20 years. Can we just go through for one second?

little fan fiction of one of the Patriots get the doors blown off. The bloody doors blown the bloody doors off. You're going to blow the bloody doors off. She shatped on a turtle. Why are we doing Austin Powers? Seahawks 40. No, both the bloody doors are. I know, but he was in, what's his name?

Oh, yeah. Austin Powers. He was his dad. Isn't he doing an impression of with Kane? Yes. Kugin is doing an impression of Kane. What's his first name? Fuck.

Steve Kuggan. No, I know. Michael Caine. Michael Cade. Michael. The blood a bloody doze. Yeah, because that's from the trip, right? Yeah, yeah.

He's going to blow the bloody dozer. She was only 16 years old. That guy's going to be in the new White Lotus, they announced. Oh, yeah? Yeah, he's going to cook. They're going to see the files. D.K., will you read the tweet that you sent me this morning, actually? Yes.

This is from the Nashville Zoo. We don't have a great track. Well, we have a really great or not great track record with zoos. But. Pretty elite track record. Wilbur. The Bintorong predicts a Seahawks win in Super Bowl 60. Since Wilbur started making predictions, he's never been wrong.

Never. What has he predicted? He's done it twice. He's two, two and oh. So he's never been Binter wrong. Whoa. Good one. Why didn't they do that, man?

They really missed out. That was a huge mistake. More like Binta right. He's Binter correct the last two times. Hifitz, how do you feel about it? What about punks-a-fil? Did he die? Six more weeks of the winner.

Remember Bill de Blasio dropped the groundhog? He'd die and they covered it up? Wait, what? You don't know about this? Bill de Blasio, who is like the most... Really? The most across-the-islegged politician I've ever seen, like where everyone in New York hated him

of every walk of life. And he dropped the groundhog, and then it died of its injuries later. Oh, my God. They tried covering it up and they failed. But he dropped the ground. You didn't hear about this? No.

Like they covered it up. Clearly. No, buildable. Yeah, they killed the ground on. Jesus. Do you care about Punks Tony Phil saying six more weeks of winter? I've never seen a more accurate prediction considering, yeah, coming to Los Angeles from D.C., where it's just like six inches of pure ice that's never going to go away for six weeks.

Yeah, it's definitely, it's like 12 more weeks of winter. It's funny because I do feel like it matters. I feel like when that report comes out for like 10 minutes, people are like, I'm fucking damn it. Shit fucking punks. Yeah. You know? Says the guy who lives in L.A.

Yeah. Like, what do you fucking care? I've just seen tweets and people upset about it. God damn it, Punks it's Honeyfield. Yeah. It does kind of make me a little sad. It does. I feel like it has weight.

For some reason when you see it, somebody just saying like a news, like a news station just saying so-and-so predicts six more weeks of winter. I feel like that just becomes gospel. That is real and it's depressing. Yeah. You know? You can pretend that you don't think the thing knows, but it knows. But it'll, it's going to bum you out for five minutes.

The Venturite is going to get the Seahawks one. Three-0. never wrong. Nashville Zoo. They smell like popcorn. Can I? No, the piss smells like pop porn from the Binturongs. No, I think it's just Binturong's smell like popcorn.

Oh. Yeah. I wonder what, oh. Craig loves popcorn. He's crazy about it. That's right. If my punishment was I couldn't eat popcorn for a week, I'd get upset. Well, okay, now we fucking know what to do.

Just make him do that. Yeah. He'll do it anyway. He'll cheat. Wait Can I have No integrity Popcorn? Can I make that trade or no?

It's neither We're going to deprive you It'll also be fun Because like as you increasingly don't have caffeine I feel like you're stuck with us for a week Well you like him You're stuck with me And so you're gonna be like increasingly like ornery

Throughout the week Yeah I think you're overestimating Like the caffeine fix that Macha gives me But I'll let you live in that Mm If it's Hmm There's an incredible bet

Will Chris Collinsworth mention Patrick Mahomes? Ooh, I like that. It's a overwhelming favorite. It's like minus 200. Really? It's like a dollar to win 50 cents. So I thought, here's why. Mahomes was in the last three Super Bowls.

Is it not going to come up? Like last year's Super Bowl won't be mentioned? I mean, is this a Romo situation where he accidentally calls someone Mahomes? Well, that too. Yeah. But like, I just think it doesn't have to be like, oh, Brock Pardty reminds Mahomes. It's like, aren't they last year? Aren't they always mentioned, oh, yeah.

If you remember last year's Super Bowl, the Eagles beat the chees. Chiefs, like, it comes up. What are the odds that he doesn't mention his name? The odds that he doesn't are like, like one and a half to. I would take that. I don't think he's going to say his name. Because they lost last year. Well, he knows people the bit.

The people heal. Patrick Mahomes. But I just don't think he's going to do it. If he brings it up, he's going to say Chiefs Eagles. Chiefs for in the last three Super Bowls. Hertz was the MVP last year. The Chiefs lost. I don't know necessarily think he'll say Patrick Mahomes' name.

Oh, fight a way. Well, the other one is, will Chris Collinsworth say the phrase, quote, here's a guy. Yes. Now here's a guy. And the end, it is yes is, it's minus 420, which is insane. No is like, it's like three to one. I would take no as well.

This is a guy, he might say. Does he have to say now? Now here's a guy? I assume that's what the quotes mean. Now here's a guy. Yeah, I assume that's the quotes. So if he goes, here's a guy and Cooper Cup. If he doesn't say now, here's a guy, we're fine.

He says it like once a quarter. I would take the no on that too. Oh, I thought you meant, I don't have to be a fiscal quarter. I thought you meant fiscal quarter. I thought you meant fiscal quarter. fiscal quarter. Q4 earnings are coming up for Chris. Oh, right.

There's quarters in NFL games. I forgot. I think this is the single best bet of the entire slate. Okay. I think this is, if I actually was like, you should bet on this. Will the electrical substation near the 49th stadium be mentioned? Yes, is two to one odds. This is on the broadcast?

Yes. This is Cherico and Collinsworth? I assume, yes. Yes. Yes. I think Tariko is a good sense of humor he's gonna bring it up. They're gonna not mention it for four hours.

McCaffrey was talking about it the other day. He's like, it's not nothing. He was like EMF, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi. Wi-Fi. It's not nothing. Here's the thing with Wi-Fi. I could have bet my life that he was an anti-wireless guy. Yeah.

You know what's crazy about Wi-Fi? Actually, do you guys care about this or should keep on? We could just not do this. Well, now I'm curious. Wi-Fi, to say nothing of health effects for McCaffrey, they've seen that AI can create like vision with Wi-Fi. Like, you know, in like a video. game or movie when you kind of like look through night vision because of all the signals your

Wi-Fi sends it doesn't go through your body so they can kind of AI can turn Wi-Fi into cameras yeah it looks like the Matrix where it's like basically they can track like the human-shaped shapes the human shapes that don't have Wi-Fi shapes so that your Wi-Fi router can be turned into like a camera where it sees where you're going in your own house like the predator they can do that now it's like a heat map yes like a heat map but for the Wi-Fi signals so like they just turned that on. Whoa. What you think?

Whoa. So don't tell McCaffrey. Don't tell McCaffrey. Yeah. You're probably right that the substation will be mentioned. I think. I think I've got to say yes on that. And then also like will Alcatraz be shown, which like, of course.

Yeah. That one's that one's pretty bad odds. That's like Golden Gate. For sure. The other one was, uh, will there be a flea flicker, a flea flicker attempt in this game? Dude, three to one. The Patriots, Josh McDaniels loves flea flickers. And I wish I could parlay it with, I have never, like, under 20 yards.

I've never seen a team do trick plays to gain, like, nine yards more than the Patriots this season. Yeah, they pitch it like three times to get six yards. Yes, it's insane. It's cooking up parlay is like our boy Stuyckin. Anthony Richardson, yeah. Three to one. I wish we could parlay three to one flea flicker with the flea flicker will gain 12 yards

or less. That's fun. Van will let us know if we can do that. How do you guys feel about which ad will run first? Pringles or Ritz? I feel really strongly about this. I think it's going to be Pringles, and here's why. Sabrina Carpenter is in the Pringles ad.

John Hamm and Scarlet Johansson and Bowen-Yang are in the Ritz ad. Both of these ads have already come out or teased or whatever. Sabrina Carpenter is just the biggest star. I think she's going to be a first quarter run. I think the Pringles are going to spend more money. They probably spent more money to get her. They're going to spend more money on the spot. She is more famous.

You think it costs more money to get one, Sabrina Carpenter than John Ham and who are the other two people you said? Johnham, Bowen Yang, and Scarlett Johansson. Don't those three people cost more than Sabrina Carpenter? But I think Sabrina Carpenter is... She's harder to get. Is a bigger star and they will pay to get her first. John Ham's kind of in a lot of stuff these days.

Sure, of course. I mean, he's also very famous. Right. Sabrina Carpenter is as big as it gets right now. Right. Top 10 most famous new people in the world, Sabrina Carpenter right now. New people. Yeah.

It's like Scarjohn-John John Ham. They also call them young people, Craig. Well, I mean, newly famous. They could be old and newly famous. I know what you say. Like you. New people. I like Pringles.

Minus 120. It's even odds. Every time I think about Pringles, I think of the Bober, and I'm going to like, please make the Pringles can bigger so I can fit my hand in the Pringles can.

I also should shout out that my brother, Scott, wrote a Super Bowl commercial that's coming out this year. Oh, yes. For Liquid ID. It's coming. Hell yeah.

So keep your eye out for that. That's super fun. Didn't you, well, can we talk about the other way of your brother on? pretty much sorry yeah I said that I said that on purpose they teased it you can see a teaser for

can mention the other one he wrote oh the Nick Sabin one yeah uh Verbo your brother wrote the Nick Sabins the Verbo owner yeah where he's like the curmudgeony verbbo owner right right he's like constantly checking in on him

yeah yeah they're like we're checking in he's like check ins at five they're like it's 458 he's like yep see in two minutes stickler stickler in the hot tub with his shirt on yeah we had your brother on the show

That's right Your birthday He told the story About like When you didn't want A bedtime You would like Get sent to

What happened You would sneak out And watch TV From the hallway I would watch Like David Letterman And Jay Leno From the hallway

And then you'd fall asleep In the hallway Or I would like It's Greg's bedtime He's gotta go to bed Yes Or I would like put on little Like skits in front of

Like his room I would like put shit Like put on like Weird clothes And like run around And try to keep him away Because I didn't want to go to sleep Oh man

But yeah Look what I be So shout at Scott Yeah Liquid everybody hydrates you, I guess, but they're not a sponsor of the show at all. Okay. My brother just is working on a project for them.

So, not an ad. Right. Well, we mentioned, I saw Gatorade had something called like Gatorade IV. Oh, no, they called it a Gator, Gator, Gator, Gator, Gator. You're just doing more ads. Shit. You're just doing more ads. Should I move on?

Gator Light. And we hate it. No, we hate it. Yeah. I didn't try it. Can we just talk about products that we hate? That's probably fine. I don't think it'd be legal.

That's why in commercials you always hear about the other guys or something like that. No, but sometimes they'll just openly mention other companies. There was a point where AT&T and Verizon were just like, like Harrison Ford. The phone companies are always like, we're way better than AT&T. But I think you can't be sued if what you're saying is true.

You can be sued, but you could probably win. You'd probably win. But the T-Mobile has that commercial right now with the Billy, why am I blanket? Bob Thornton. Yeah, what'd you sound? Billy Bob Thornton. Yeah, Billy Bob Thornton.

And then he's just like, Team Mobile's the best. And then AT&T just made the exact same looking commercial with Luke Wilson. And he's like, we're just like that other. Who invented the telephone. You're like, whoa. I can't believe they never brought that up before. Like that's, I would lead with that every time.

It is funny though. Now it's just like we got to get like a middle-aged white guy walking through a cornfield talking about phones. Phones. The puppy ball. You have Team Rough or Team Fluff? Totally. This is my favorite thing in the world. Do you watch it?

Yeah. Obviously. What are the odds? They're even odds, minus 120 each. I think Team Ralph is going to win this year. I also MVP under 16 and a half weeks. Those little ones are squirley. Okay.

Didn't you report on this one year? Yes. What did you learn? How to win money of the puppy ball. Which is? Enlighten us. Phil. Will and ethical?

Well, I just talked about Coke putting a Pepsi ad in the Hitler's bunker. So tell us, like, what are the secrets? The secret is, you know what? You just got to have eye. You just got to watch the tape. You got to grind the table. tape and you got it's really

puppies have more grit are there tape well are they practicing what fucking tape are we watching they're fucking biting each other's ears and rolling around you gotta have that dog

be cute as hell but is there tape of these animals interacting with one another these animals these beasts yeah you watch the tape yeah there are you don't know what to look for

I think there are like the week of they kind of show them yeah and they like they each have little profiles They have names. The all 22. Right. Buddy.

You watch the all 22, but in dog years it's all three. This is Frederick, the puppy. Yeah. This is Walter. Eight months old. Moran County. There's some great. You should, there are all the dogs are up for adoption.

Adopt the dog for the puppy bowl. What are some of the puppies names? Oh, dude. The puppy bowl dogs are the best. I love the puppy bowl. You never looked at the, you guys not just look at the roster. Meet the players of the puppy bowl. Are they all puppies?

Yes. That's kind of exclusive. Do you think they check their... It's kind of agist. This is like... Well, it's right there in the name. Well, if it's for adoption, adopting a puppy's easy.

Okay. It's hard to adopt the older dogs. Carrie Paw Shaw. Bark Purdy? From Pittsburgh. That's not even... Carrie Pasha. That's, I guess, funny.

Like Carrie Bradshaw. I just finished Sex and the City. Oh, what do you think? I actually liked the ending. I know that's kind of a hot day. I just talk like Sex and City. I hated the lead-up to the ending. I thought it was a complete drag.

However, I think you could make the case that that was the point and you needed that because Carrie was supposed to be having a midlife crisis well you know what I mean so while it was horrible

and her dating this Russian guy was so fucking boring and it was going on for way too long maybe you needed that to like hate Carrie and that was the intent I gotta tell you sex in the city first of all incredible show amazing show have you watched it no

ever seen an episode I mean I've seen bits and pieces of it's very good I even like the remake actually more than other people did I will say the thing with sex and the city I think Carrie is very unlikable. Carrie's a terrible friend. Yeah, she is. Because if you look, like, there are times where Carrie is just like...

And her decision making is so frustrating. Like, there are times where... She's a mess, basically, the whole show. She's such a mess. But also, like, she's so, like, Charlotte... The scene where Charlotte is taking care of Steve, like, her husband... I don't forget, they were divorced the time, but Steve's mom who had dementia.

Miranda. Sorry, I was confused. Miranda was taken care of her, like, ex-husband's mom with dementia. That's right at the end. That's, like, the last two episodes. And Carrie is complaining to her, like, she just... just took her on this. She was eating pizza out of the garbage and comes in, she gives her a bath. And Carrie comes in complaining about this like, oh, should I move to Paris or not?

I'm like, can you have like a little perspective? Yeah. My God. Like this is not the time to complain. Oh, my. I also, big is horrific to her. And I can't believe that he's like just like, it's not even Mr. Big. No. But Big sucks. No, I like Big. Big is. Big. Oh, dude, Big sucks. Big and her are right for each other. Well, that's, that says something about. I think big, big is big sucks. They're meant to be together. I think. I think that's the right that's the right ending

is big and her They treats her like shit Aden's too nice Aiden is great He's great They're not right for each other Carrie's not great You need big

shoot they want to go get cocktails and drive around In their black car Aiden doesn't want that It doesn't work Big and Big and Carrie work There's a puppy named Guy Ferreary

In the puppy ball What team is he on I'll take Guy Fietti He's on the rough team That's too rough He's a Yorkshire Terrier I love team I love

Westchester PA in the house Wow okay Wait I thought that was Hyphitz Hyfitz is not from there No that's Pennsylvania Different different state Also I'm pretty sure that Kim Contral And Sarah Jessica Parker weren't friends

No they don't like each other It sucks email is about sex in the city Here we have do any of the propets you guys want to do Imagine if I'm just like yeah Kenneth Walker 62 and a half Russian yards AJ Barner over 52 yards man I'm telling you You're into Barner I like how do you feel about that

I just think the biggest Mac mismatch in the game is the Patriots tight-ins can't cover. It's fine. Okay. Yeah. I like a J. Barrier. Team who scores first wins the game. Yeah. You think yes?

Yeah. What do you think? I kind of want team who scores first doesn't score a day. I kind of want Patriots to come out. Patriots get the ball, march down, kick a field goal, and the Seahawks still win? Can I run? Can I spoil Ringer 107 and just run one prop by you guys that I actually just, in the vein of what we do with the conference title game,

spending as little time as possible on it? I just read a bet because we obviously we're gonna take the freaking Seahawks we're not going against Seahawks. We have to make three other prop bets for a one or seven which we're winning by the way. I think we should just take Seahawks minus four and a half, five and a half, six and a half, seven, a half and eight and a half. Those should be our five bets. Fuck, that's awesome. That's so much better than what I had. And then they win by two.

I, yeah, let me just go over four. The other one I like, I just read it and I was like, yep. Patriots first drive punt. Whoa. It's plus 130. I don't care. And I'm kind of I could see that. We will just win it immediately. I'm like, oh, yeah, sure. They can get the ball, get a field goal, and a phone ball.

They're going to punt. They go three now, and we're like, oh, wow, we won a bet already. First drive. Patriots punt. And by then, we'll have already hit coin toss. Yeah. She heat on the return

will have already hit 20 miles an hour. Right. We just win everything at like two minutes. That should be what we do. See, how many of that's we can get within the first? Yeah. How much money can we make on the one drive? I actually like, or lose.

And then we go 0 for 4 and then we're like, oh, shit, we blew it. That's actually good. Yeah. It's the two-minute drill. Yeah, yeah. Branding. Yeah.

Love that. Why do they say red area, not red zone? Is that because Red Zone owns it? I can't say that. No, it's just like an old school. It's like Tom Brady says that. Why?

He says red area. Why? Because when you say it all the time, you got to rename it to sound cool. Because Bill Belichick's dad called it that. Red Area does not sound cooler than Red Zone. It's also harder to say. We also say end zone.

Why wouldn't it be red zone and end zone? They sound too similar. They sound too similar. They sound too similar. No, they don't. No. Red area sounds terrible. I don't understand that.

He calls it red area. It bothers me. Yeah. It's a huge ache from Tom. The other one is matriculate down the field. The only people in the world use matriculate to describe. It doesn't mean anything. In what world?

Why are we using matriculate talking about football? Did you guys hear the Lindsey Vaughn news? She tore her ACL. She tore her ACL last week and is going to compete still. Yes. Bad ass. That is insane. Is it or actually all these guys should be doing it?

Why are you can get the surgery? Well, it is an interesting conversation to have. No. Boenicks. Maybe you just play. Boenings should have just played the game. Sean Payton wouldn't have drafted him. No, Lizzie Vaughn doing it is pretty safe. Also, everyone made fun of me, but emails at Ringof Fantasy Football gmail.com, the sport you would try to meddle in if you had a medal in something.

Obviously, the answer is curling. If anyone has an argument or against the, it's curling as the sport. This was when you said handball for the summer in a living. Everyone made fun of me as if pick a different sport. I'm like, sorry, I didn't say track. What do you want me to do? People said you should do shooting. I'm like, there's no way you could get better at shooting

than the best shooter in the world in like a few years. False. What if you're just really good like me? Shoot or shoot? You can win a medal on the bench. The answer is curling. We know that. Handball, there's a lot more athleticism to handball than you think.

Hand-eye coordination. Yeah, it's the Olympics. But the sport itself requires a lot of, like a diversity of things. So what was your, but you have four years. And my point is there are not other people spending four years on that. they're like at the same degree. What are your, what is your answer

for what you would try to meddle in? Curling. Well, that's Winter Olympics. Oh, summer? That was my handball answer. Probably. Probably basketball. Three for five from the corner.

Three for five from the corner. You could shoot an NBA game. Archery? I think that's a bad idea. That seems hard. I think there is an element. Have you ever tried shooting an arrow? Yeah.

It's not easy. No, it's not. But like, I think I'd be better at shooting a gun than an arrow. That's fair. Maybe it is shooting. Yeah. Everyone's, I just think that shooting, there's actually a physical level of hand eye coordination that you, like a bar that we need to like make it. Like, that's what a lot of people can move in. But handball, I almost think there is a prerequisite of athleticism that if you don't have, you can't get there. Shooting,

in theory, doesn't require elite athleticism the same way handball does. And some people just don't have that. You can't acquire athleticism. Well, for money, maybe. I don't know. Unlimited training. I don't know. I don't know if I agree with that. What are you saying? Nothing. I open this can't bottle in like five minutes. Bottle opening. All right, fine.

How do you ski with a torn ACL? That's remarkable. The Lindsay Vaughn thing's crazy. She's 41 years old. It also sucks. Those are two biggest stars. Chloe Kim hurt her shoulder and she's going to snowboard and the Lindsay Vaughn. But Lindsay Vaughn coming back because she retired. She's just going to wear a knee brace? Like real crazy.

Also, now she's kind of like watching Tua where you're kind of watching through. your fingers and you're kind of like, oh my God, you're mostly like going from hoping she wins gold to like, I really hope she doesn't fall. I know. I know. Yeah. Precarious. Crazy. Yeah. You guys want to do some emails? Yeah. We got an email from Casey.

Casey. C. Bone. And the Sunshine Band. Breakfast was a Cliff Builders Bar and a cold brew. Okay. Solid. So Casey writes. I gotta say the bars market way bigger than I thought for breakfast. Everybody's eating bars.

No one wants to be cooking in the morning. No, it's like coffee or an energy drink at a bar. On the go. Yeah. You know? So, Casey writes, the awesome thing about Dantes was that there was a comedy club next to her called Giggles. Yes.

Did you remember Giggles? I went and saw Mitch Hedberg at Giggles. Oh, wow. That's awesome. That's sick. Was he from the PNW? I don't think so. He was touring at the time.

It was great. So one year, so it's a legit comedy club. So Casey says one year, the owner of the comedy club just decided to make it into a strip club. Yeah. That sounds right. Yeah, I think I heard that. I heard of that from afar. So apparently just changed the name.

No permits, no warning. Giggles is the strip club? Well, no. He changed the name from Giggles to Jiggles. Ooh. God, that's good. And, uh... I mean, it is.

Come on. Who we're kidding? One day, they didn't announce it. They just one day you went to Giggles and it was just Jiggles and it was a strip club. So the problem was it was across the street from a church that also had a school and a daycare. That doesn't seem legal. probably wasn't so the church wasn't having it

so then later they forced the owner to convert it back from jiggles back to giggles and then dante's burns down right dante's inferno yes that was all at the same time wow dante's just burst into flame was one strip from across the church

we get dante's inferno across the street from the church next to the strip club did you frequent jiggles no I never went Hmm. A likely story. All right. We have one other...

Yeah, I didn't need to. No. You know? We have one other important email here. One other important email here. This is Henry and probably like actually like dozens of other people were angry at us. Okay. Angry.

An episode ago, we talked about how we had this idea for like motorcycle jousting. Yeah. And like you should be in full chain link armor, motorcycle jousting. And like, why don't we do this? Well, it turns... So this is from Henry, but I mean, Henry writes, I was listening to the podcast, how to pause the episode when you start spitballing about our motorcycle jousting league. And I was screaming like a ghost because this is already a movie.

Of course. In 1981, the legendary filmmaker George Romero of Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead and the crazies and everything. George Romero made a sincere film called Night Riders with Ed Harris as the star where they have literally are a traveling Renaissance troop that jousts in full metal chain link on motorcycles. Not ironically or metaphorically, they literally just have lances and motorcycles and they joust as

like a gang. Oh, it's Knightwriters with a K. Yeah. That's the pun. This movie exists. Wow. Yeah. Wow, look at young Ed Harris. Yeah, that didn't seem like too novel. Yeah, no. The poster says the games, the romance,

the spirit, Camelot is a state of mind. The 80s were the fucking best. They really were. You could do anything. They were all doing smelling salts. Dude. I just thought that was amazing. I know.

There's just a whole whole medieval reenactment troupe. Well, so, I mean, that was a little disappointing to realize we probably can't be the first to break through the motorcycle jousting league. The other one was you talked about chain link armor a lot. Huh? So shout out to John Brancas, R.A.P.,

the sports science legend. Sure. Apparently Jason Tatum's like rookie year, John Brancis convinced Jason Tatum to try to dunk in chain link armor and he did it. and that was a sports science. Oh, no way. Jason Tatum dunking in chain link armor.

I don't know. They apparently convinced them to simulate, like what if an NBA player should try you down while dunking? But they literally have Jason Tatum dressed up like he's in Lord of the Rings and he just is dunking. I wonder how heavy it was.

NBA teams should practice in chain mail. It's like a donut on the back. Right. So when they get into the real games, it's you feel light as hell. Everyone should. Yeah. NFL players should.

Right. Imagine how Rashid he would hit 30 miles an hour if he was practicing in armor. Yeah. It's a good idea. It's like rucking. Have you heard of rucking? Rucking?

No. It's a new exercise craze where you put on a really heavy backpack and walk around. Like a rucksack? Yeah, or they have weight. Oh, you know what? Yeah. I think they just joked about that on SNL. Yeah.

I hadn't heard that term. Why is it called that? A rucksack. Oh. Rucking? Have you guys ever done the weight of vest thing? They get up some crazy shit. No.

You know that. Carrying it off around. heavy enough burden Rucked over here Yeah no no that's too much Wow 200 The weight the chain mail was 65 pounds That's crazy

That's a lot I'm telling you that shit is heavy That's like a whole two to out well Yeah Okay We should get out of here We have another preview coming this week And then we're going after the Super Bowl

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Oh. Remember the Knight Rider theme from the show? Oh, no. That was definitely before we were born. Yeah, didn't watch that. Like decade before we were born. his car talked to him. Yeah, that car was like really cool, right?

Kit, the car. That's right. When it was talking, the little thing in front would make it light up. Yeah. Man, you weren't, the 80s were really up to something. 1982, great year. I know. I really think we don't, we don't talk.

There needs to be, we just need to be talking about the 80s way more. I would love to. Everything that happened in the 80s is completely inexplicable. This is where I really show. What is the most inexplicable thing about the 80s you've learned from doing the relaunchable? It's just like the willingness to follow up on ideas and greenlight ideas that have just no actual thought or planning. Like motorcycle jousting? Yeah, it's just like anything.

They're like, yeah, let's do that. We'll greenlight that. The amount of movies that were greenlit that like the script that wasn't even done, there wasn't even a script. And it's like, we'll figure it out on location. Like, and everyone's doing cocaine. It's remarkable. Or like the cross promotional stuff. Like there are clips from, what's that?

Romancing the Stone. You know that movie? Yeah, yeah. There's like a clip of Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner and Danny DeVito, like, on stage, singing some song with like some band that makes no sense. You don't know where they are, why they're doing it. And that was like a big movie. And it would be as if like Margot Robbie and Jacob Allorty from Weathering Heights are just like showing up and singing counting crows in Memphis for no reason wearing all white suits. Like that shit would just happen all the time and nobody, nobody batted an eye at it.

It's crazy. Yeah. They had some, I'm just thinking. Stephen Seagall was a movie star in the 1980s. Like, that's the crazy. It just can't happen. John Cod van der. He was Mike Ovitz's, like, jujitsu instructor who was the head of CIA at the time.

And the guy was like, he was bored and was like, I'm going to make you a movie star. And he's not a good actor. That's the first of John Grude and being like Nathan Peterman's my quarterback. Do you that? I can do anything. Do you have a specific movie in mind, the most 80s movie that you can think of right now? That's a good question. In terms of, so the one that comes to my mind.

Well, I can think of really bad ones that we've done. I have, the one that immediately, I don't know if this is the right answer, but literally the first thing I thought was Red Dawn. That's what I, I just pulled this up. No shit. Look at what's on my computer. Let's fucking go. I'm not kidding. I was just going to say that.

We have not done that on the rewatcher. Yeah. Fucking great movie, by the way. Swayze and Charlie Sheen. Swayzee is very 80s. Yeah. Well, I was going to say Swayze, the other one I was thinking of was Roadhouse. Roadhouse very 80s.

Roadhouse to me is maybe the most 80s. Super 80s. Pain don't hurt. His hair? God. It was just the plot is so ridiculous. Oh my God, I love it. What year was Roadhouse? Hold on.

89, just snuck in there. Yeah. But yeah, and then Baywatch is the... Baywatch is the show that I think of. Maybe that's too late. Is it the family guy where Peter just kicks everything? He's like Roadhouse. Baywatch was 89 to 2001.

Lifeguard solving crimes. That was the greatest... The greatest moment in realization I've ever had that I was like, wow, that really was the plot. Also, Fox is bringing it back. I mean, sex sells. That's, how much money is Sidney-Sweeney getting to be in that?

All of it. That's like the Don Draper drunk meme. It's a Sydney-Sweeney-Bay watch. I think they were doing a casting call in Marina del Rey. And I was like, dude, if you're a single man, just go hang around there. You'll see the hottest people have ever lived showing up to that. We've got to watch Red Don.

Oh, yeah. I'm sure it's on the re-watchables list. We'll watch Transformers first, then we'll watch Red Dawn. Oh shit. Okay. The coldest war of all. Tango and Cash. Tango and Cash is just the name. Come on. Dude, I don't know if I've seen that.

Stallone and Russell, Kurt Russell. It's pretty great. Tango and Cash. You know what I was trying to? I thought that you meant the one with Tom Hanks and the dog. Turner and Hoot? That's what I thought you were talking about. What's right? Oh, shit. Goodbye everyone