The Ringer NFL Show - Super Bowl Recap: Mahomes vs. Hurts, the First 58 Minutes, the Call, and Toney’s Moment

Episode Date: February 13, 2023

Live from inside State Farm Stadium in Arizona, we recap potentially the greatest first 58 minutes in Super Bowl history, including Jalen Hurts’s incredible performance, Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs’ resilience, whether the game’s legacy can outlast its deciding holding call, what Rihanna’s performance was like from inside the stadium, Kadarius Toney’s heroics, and much more. Check out our 2023 Ringer NFL Draft Guide here! Email us! [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Watch out for mouth tendrils and follow along on Spotify or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hifitz. I am joined in person at the Super Bowl with Danny Kelly and Craig Worldbeck, and we're literally looking out onto the field right now. Yeah, confetti. So we're in Phoenix.

This is a little weird like recording the show after the game because there's not actually some great big room we can go to. So we just are literally just sitting at one of those tables that you would kind of put ketchup on your hot dog before you went to your seats. I think it's kind of like a VIP room area. I don't think anybody could come in here. VIP hot dogs. No big deal.

Okay, so it's loud. There's vacuums and there's people walking everywhere, so just forgive us. Bear with us, please. There's a lot of stuff going on. If you hear something, I don't know what it is either. With that said, holy crap, she's just won the Super Bowl. That was absolutely insane. Crazy, crazy game.

Amazing. 98% of that game was setting up to be all-time great. Truly like one of the best Super Bowl's, 35 to 35 with five minutes left. Two best teams in the league. It was perfect. We kept looking at each other during the game. Like, is this real? This game is absolutely insane.

Well, we got everything we wanted because we got the home's fourth quarter comeback. Yeah. And then Jalen Hertz, we got the Eagles like, okay, fraud check. They actually are down in the fourth quarter. Jaylon Hertz, can you do it? He did it. And then, of course, the most important of all, I hate you too with a burning passion.

Kaderes Tony literally changed the game. Literally because of Kaderie's Tony, when Chiefs down six, the chiefs up eight, in like three minutes. And I was like, you know what? This isn't, I don't even want to talk about it. Craig, I feel like I should maybe not mention this because I don't know what the level of professionalism that we're supposed to exude here being in the press box. Craig was literally like dancing

when Tony scored his first touchdown. I gotta say, sitting in the, we were in the auxiliary media areas watching the game. Those people are just dead fish watching the game. I was literally the rule. That is the rule. Whatever. I was standing there. I was like, I don't care. I was standing up open my fist when Tony was a turning the punt. I obviously made, I gave

away on, if you guys listened to the props episode, I gave away my, my favorite pick was, uh, Cadarius Tony two plus touchdowns came within two yards of doing that. So I put five bucks on that. I would have like $1,000. Dude, we love the word apoplectic.

Apoplectic. Craig was apoplectic. I was apoplectic. But also happy. I also wouldn't have won a thousand. It would have been a lot less. But it was still a good amount of money. Yeah. All right. Can we go right to the ending? So a lot of people were pissed about like, I'm going to say this word, penalty. Penalty. That's right.

The penalty on James Bradbury, the defensive holding or what a pastor of Frience, yeah, and juju at the end. Dude, it was a, it was a flag. I'm glad you said that. I am now, at the beginning I was like, oh man, that's tiki tack. Like, you're really going to end a game like that. Obviously, the Chiefs had this, a similar thing

happened with the Bengals game, the push in the back, got them in field goal range to beat the Bengals. And now this thing happens. There was what, a minute 54 left. The Eagles have one time out, and it was third and eight, and Mahomes overthrows, Juju. They call it. The angle that everyone's retreating on Twitter doesn't look bad. But it's the reverse angle that no one is

retweeting on Twitter, you see Bradbury pull Juju's jersey and holding back. And then even in the press conference, Bradbury says it was a hole. I tried to keep him. Basically, he was, he got got on a double move and in order to save the touchdown, he sort of grabbed his jersey. But he said, all right, it's, you know the rest of development thing where he's like,

Michael did some detective work? And he's like, hey, T-bone, did you burn down the storage unit? He's like, oh, yeah, most definitely. People like James Bradbury. Did you hold juju? He's like, oh, yeah. I was a flag. I was hoping I wouldn't get caught.

Yeah. Like, however, however, I think the big picture thing is, do you make the call? Technically, yes, that was probably a foul. like by the rule of the letter of the law. James Bradbury stated intent. He said it was like it, but I do still think it was somewhat tiki-tack, especially in a game where

most of that stuff was going uncalled. Like this was a pretty clean game. Not a lot of penalties. Definitely no holding penalties other than that one. Literally anywhere in the game. He said he was, it's not even he said he did it. He said he was trying to do it on purpose.

Oh, really? He said that. You have a calling it in that moment, I think, is what people were upset about. But like big picture, here's, here's my main point. It did kind of ruin. the vibe of the game. It did.

Because look, if they don't get it, it's fourth and eight, the chiefs kick a field goal and they go up what? Was it tied at the time? No, they would go up, they would have gone up seven. No, it was, yeah, it was tied at the time. They would have kicked a field goal. No, no, no, it wasn't tied at the time. They were up three, weren't they? I think it was 35, 35.

Oh, right. Sorry, it was 35, 35. Yeah. So they would have kicked the field goal with a minute 50 left and kicked it off to the Eagles. So do you think the flag was the issue or just overall, the ending set up like, oh my God, this is epic, five minutes left, 35, 35, every box we wanted and this game's being checked. And then it was like, actually the Chiefs kind of slowly went down

and then the Eagles tried to let Pacheco score and somehow with the rookie was like, oh yeah, I'm going to go down at the McKinnon. Oh, sorry, McKinney. McKinney goes down. Pachico definitely would have ran into the end of the end up. He was not. That would have changed the game. He would have ran down the tunnel. But then it's like, oh, instead of this cool shootout ending, it's like, oh, the Chiefs are going to

just take a knee twice and then like chip shot field goal because a ref threw a flag. And it's like, I think people are more at mad that was deflating at the end, but the flag just kind of became the target of everyone's ire of like, this was not the awesome ending. Also, you know, I don't know if I agree with the idea behind let the boys play, it's the final two minutes. I almost like, I think it works more in basketball because basketball, there's so many, like, hands flying everywhere. But like, when a receiver is being held on a pass to him, and it's truly just like a one-on-one situation, and if he didn't get held,

he may have caught the ball, it's a little more black and white to me. It's like, so the refs just not, if he sees hold he's not supposed to call it on the guy who's being targeted? Well, I think it's always a gray area. How, how badly is being held? How much is he holding him up? How badly is it affecting the play? Like, I think it was on the scale of egregious versus non-existent. It was like a normal hold. I was still closer to tiki tack to me. But at the end of the day, yeah, I don't know how you answer that question. Like, do you just not call anything? It's, it's tough. And it's like a bang, bang play. It happens really fast. You know, the funny thing is is everybody's been on the refs, right? The refs have been very

popular in the past few weeks in the NFL. However, I would say heading into that before that play, the refs kind of nailed it. There was three controversial calls today, and I thought personally, they got everyone right. The Devante Smith catch. They called no catch. I thought that was correct. The Miles Sanders catch fumbled for a touchdown. Nick Bowden's potential second touchdown. I thought that was an incomplete pass. And then Dallas Goddard's catch tip-tilling out of bounds when he kind of pinned it against his shoulder. I thought that was a catch. They were three for three. Completely agree. I think the big, like again, coming back to sort of the big picture, though,

and then just a hold on Juju on that third down in the first half. You should have seen how everyone was like, we were looking at each other, like we're just witnessing one of the greatest games of all time. This is incredible. And then that foul happens. That penalty happens. And to me,

and I don't know exactly what's going to happen because this is now like two hours after the game ended or an hour after the game ended. And we've kind of like thought about it a lot. But like, that's going to be one of the big narratives of the game. Like it sucks that we have to talk about this fucking penalty. But the ref's job isn't to preserve the vibes.

The refs job is to call the flags they see. And it's like, It's not the refs. Well, yeah, maybe. That's according to whatever the script says. Exactly. I'm just saying the rest job isn't to be like, oh, this will be way more fun. Which is that script sucked.

Whoever's the screenwriter there, well, bad news. Hollywood's about to go on a rider's strike, so it's going to get worse next season. Also, all the writers are going to get assigned to the Chinese blue, the aliens descending. Yeah. I think that the aliens, do you think the aliens are writing the scripts? Probably. I just think if you're a chiefs fan, that's a pretty deflating way to end the game. It does, because you're a chief fan?

You're probably pretty stoked. I mean, regardless, it's an exciting thing to win. Super Bowl. But the fact that we're opening the fucking Super Bowl podcast talking about this play, it sucks. It sucks. It's fair. To start, you have to admit. This is the only thing people are going to talk about this week. I don't think it's the only thing.

It's the first thing, though. That, yeah, let me put it better. It is exactly what we're doing. That's what's going to happen. I mean, like, we let me build a run down about this. I don't know. I just think having everyone sort of, whether they do it or not, put an asterisk around this win. Sucks.

I think it sucks for, let's talk about these parts. that didn't suck, but because before this, we're talking about, we just mentioned the epic thing. I feel like my, and again, the game just ended, my feeling on this game,

felt like watching a basketball game, huge runs. You know what the NBA, I feel like the NBA this year. Like, there's been so many, like, oh, 20 points the team came back.

Modern NBA is like, you can be down 15. Doesn't mean anything. That felt, this felt like that in the sense that, or maybe even watching past NBA finals games where it's like, LeBron's on the court,

comes off for three minutes and the points are scored. It's like, Mahomes in the first half was barely on the field. It's like 22 minutes of possession for the Eagles, eight for the Chiefs. And the second half, it was like, the Chiefs just had the ball the whole time.

And Jaylen, like, I think, and how much real time went by in the first half with the homes being off the field? Like, 100, some insane, like an hour. Yeah. And then on the second half, Jaylen Hertz was just not on the field for this massive amounts of times.

And the Chiefs just, again, we're down six to up eight in, like, less than three minutes, I think. Yeah. I mean, this game is insane. These two teams, like, two of the best teams all year long, all year long, basically the two best teams in the NFL.

And if you look at some of the numbers, like they scored the same exact amount of points, they had the exact same record you know they had like each had six all pros this was a tweet from field jades the other day it was like holy crap this is like the best matchup imaginable in the Super Bowl this year and you know what like I think both teams

other than Jalen Hertz's fumble which led to the Nick Bolton touchdown these teams played pretty much to a perfect game at least offensively I mean they were really Hertz I thought played a fucking phenomenal game if you would have told me going into this Jalen Hertz is going to have 370 yards of offense

and four touchdowns and Mahomes is going to throw over 182 yards and no receiver has over 100? I would have said the score is 42 to 15. Yeah, absolutely. And then also, what's crazy is they think that the drives, like this game, I mean, the Eagles only drive in the first half that didn't work was really because they had an offensive pass interference,

and it was like procedural. It's like a screen or something. It's like a pick player. And like that just ended the drive because they went to like first and 20. Yeah, well, then the fumble. But even that, that's not like the defense stopped them. That's like Jalen Hurts tried to switch hands. and just drop the ball.

But, like, their offense was unstoppable to begin the game. And then in the second, Mahomes was too, because it's the same thing. It's like that first drive, Mahomes, it was effortless. The second drive, I feel like if anyone goes for it on fourth and two, the home's getting it. And so trying to kick the field goal, which I missed. Yeah. Yeah, we got a doyke.

And then was the third drive, is that when he tweaked his ankle? No, the third drive, they didn't get the ball back because the defensive touchdown. And then they come back. There's like an hour of time. And then it gets like, he tweakss. his ankle to go out. And then they come back and they score every single drive again. I mean, I couldn't believe how just the ice in his veins, the first drive of the second half. Because he hurt his ankle on the last play of the last driver the first half. He was writhing in pain.

You can see replays on Twitter on TV when we were watching the game, like writhing in pain, you know, putting his head down on the shoulder of the trainer. Like he was absolutely in massive amount of pain. And we're just like, oh God, like they're down 10 going to the half. Mahomes is hurt again. You know, this is exactly. where the Eagles want the Chiefs to be because they excel with the lead. They can run the ball. They can just pound it. You know, they can control the clock,

which is exactly what they did in the first half. It turns out it was good that they were leading every moment of every game this season. That was in fact a good thing. And then to me, it was just incredibly striking how Mahomes and the offense, the Chief's offense came out, just marched down the field, scored.

No panic whatsoever from that team. Absolutely no panic. It's really, they did it twice, right? The game started with the Eagles marching right down and go up seven zero. And I was like, oh, man. Eagles looked fucking good. And Mahomes, unwavering, marches right down and throws that beautiful ball to Kelsey in the corner of the end zone. And I was like, oh, this is going to be one of those games.

Yeah, exactly. It's just going to go back and forth. And they did the same thing to come out of the second half. It was truly like Titans at play here. Not the team. Those things they saw. Like, really? Most boring team.

But I think just like getting away from the what we talked about first, the call, I think the chiefs, the way that they dominated the second half, they came out and basically played perfect football from almost the. the start of the second half to the very end of the game. You know, you have to give them a ton of credit for that because I was starting to have some real doubts at halftime there, especially with Mahomes hurt. The way that they did that, I think they scored three straight touchdowns, plus then the field goal to win the game.

And, you know, they just, like, they had, like, no penalties. It was incredible. And not to mention, yeah, there was just. Patrick Mahomes was sacked zero times in this football game. Right. Yeah. The Eagles, the best sack rate since, like, the year 2000?

Yeah. They didn't touch them. So that's the weird part. I think that what's true, all the Eagles fans who are probably enraged at us for joking all week if the Eagles were frauds. Like, we were kidding, but like our point was that they just have this perfect game script

and they hit it every time where it's like they're always winning. Again, this was the third, was this the third game all season that Jalen Hertz was trailing in the fourth quarter. Like he took snaps down points in the fourth quarter for the third time this year. Had not done it since week 11 till today. And so one of the reasons they had 70 snacks,

or 70 snacks, I mean, they probably had a lot of snacks. I did not have 70 snacks. We'll get to this. Jason, Kelsey. he was going to see the snacks on the sideline. We'll get to State Farm Stadium later. Yeah. We're talking about the snacks.

But I have to say, I think a lot of the, our pregame analysis was, like everyone's, was kind of spot on, especially the thing. We talked about this week, Stephen and Solac crushed it and like on the ringer NFL show. They wrote a great piece. And it's like the cheese with the big tight end units were able to pass the ball, kind of like butter. And then surprisingly, they kind of ran out the receivers, Juju and Justin Wants and the receivers.

And they were able to run. And then the Eagles, it was like, okay, Jalen hurts us to go down and like pass. down points. And he actually did it. Right. And then the Chiefs... They made some big plays. But the Chiefs running the ball.

Yeah. Like Pacheco, oh my God, man. Pacheco was fantastic. I want to get to Mahomes. Legacy talk, what do you think? Top five quarterback in the league now? Yeah. Is he better than Joe Burrow?

I don't think so. I don't know. Can we rank the quarterback in the NFL? Joe Burrow, Daniel Jones. Mm-hmm. Kenny Picket. Mills. Brock Purdy.

Well, Brock Purdy's one. Well, that goes without saying. I think Mahomes is top. Do you think 49ers fans would trade Purdy for Mahomes at this point? Well, you'd have to add in something. Yeah. Tossing in a pick. No, they would trade Purdy for Mahomes, but you'd have to take Tray Lance too.

That's the only way. You can take him, please. If you take Lance. But I don't seriously, we're in, I feel like I'm doing a Bill impression, but it's like, you know, we take these things seriously. But the Patrick Mahomes' overall legacy is insane. Yeah. So he's now two and one in the Super Bowl.

He's been to five AFC championship games. that's literally what Peyton Manning did in his entire career. And Patrick Mahomes is what, 27? He's 27 years old. Wild. And... How did it feel?

So Patrick Mahomes could have been kicked off his parents' health insurance like six months ago. Like that's how... You know what I mean? Also, he has two Super Bowl rings of 27. John Elway didn't get his first until he was 37. So it's like if you go through the quarterback Mount Rushmore,

it's like Brady, Montana. I mean, old people would say Johnny Unitas, but it's like, okay, Elway. I mean, Peyton Manning, who's... Dan Marino. didn't have any Super Bowls. Like the argument, literally the only argument of not putting Mahomes on that fourth spot, I'm not saying he has it, but the only arguments are, one, the era he plays in, which he cannot

control. And two, like, just he hasn't played the extra 10 years yet. Yeah. But if he does, again, he's 27. The only players that have won the MVP twice and the Super Bowl MVP twice are Tom Brady, Joe Montana, and Mojams. Like, we're already there. That's crazy.

And you know what's underrated about him? him is I feel like his flashy play, I think sometimes hides the fact that he's one of the toughest quarterbacks in the league. Oh, yeah, for sure. You don't assume he's knocked around in times. It's like Steph Curry, honestly same thing. Steph Curry small, you don't assume small guys are tough. He's skinny, he's a shooter. Mahomes, I think what's being overshadowed on that final drive

because of the dumb penalty is Mahomes is 26-yard scamper on the bum ankle. Yeah. Yep. To like essentially seal the game? I think I saw this was his longest run this year. Yeah. On the high ankle, just like that Bucks game where I think it's, I forget what the next-gen stat is, but he ran

not like for yardage in the box score but just they tracking his movement the amount of like yards he ran from the buck's defense in the Super Bowl two years ago was like a record and he had a broken toe and he like the whole reason he was struggling

was because he had the broken toe like he placed their injuries all the time the dislocated kneecap the Super Bowl season Mahomes has it all he has QB wins he has rings and both of those have Zs at the end by the way QB wins rings

and then he also has like he is the most impressive look the way he plays is the most em, like, awesome. He has the most arm. You know, it's crazy. Like, he literally checks every single box you could possibly want for a quarterback.

Except he has a brother who doesn't record over one and a half TikToks during the game. Dude, oh my God, that was crazy. He posted zero for folks. Do you think he couldn't get on the Wi-Fi? Was that the problem? No, the second the game ended, he posted two. Is it because the Chinese balloons came down?

No, I think the fix was in. I think that's what was happening. I think the screenwriters knew what was going on. They knew where the money was. The screenwriters are terrible, by the way. So the Mahomes thing also we didn't mention his best performance of the night Which was giving a coherent postgame press conference even though I assumed that he was on like a thousand milligrams of beaver tranquilizer He said he didn't get a shot and he said he didn't get a shot but he said he's like I didn't have time to work on it

And he did not elaborate he's like I didn't have a shot I took many pills Immunized against ankle injuries Yeah exactly I have a shot I just I don't know what that means But maybe he just took pills. He did a darkness instead of getting a shot? Yes. Okay.

Blood doping. I don't know how that works. On the legacy note, dude, also just Andy Reid having two Super Bowls now. Yes. There was a moment there where it seemed like

Andy Reid could potentially retire, but he said, nope, he's coming back. Thank goodness. Oh, his answer to that was like, they were like, you mentioned that you could. He's like,

yeah, because I've been asked that 50 times and eventually I was like, yeah, man, I don't know. And everyone ran with that one. He's like, yeah,

how many crazy said it. Did you see Terry Bradshaw when he won on the stage? He said, Andy, waddle on over here. Did he say waddle on? Yeah, I'm like, waddle on over here. I'm back in on Terry Bradshaw. Terry Bradshaw's incredible. Back in on Terry.

Terry Bradshaw was like, yeah. Waddle on over here? Waddle on over here. Media day with Bradshaw was like, look, if I died on television, like, think of the ratings. That'd be great for Fox. I know. Tom Cruise saw that and was like, you stole my thunder, Terry. So is it a crazy that Tom Cruise's parachute?

it in for the National Anthem and the cameras missed it. I know. Crazy. I hit my bad. He hit all of the wires that were set up for Rihanna's performance and he was decapitated. So, they didn't want you to know about that. There was actually another platform that Jay-Z was going to show up on,

but Tom Cruise ran into it. There was no guess. Jay Z's hospitalized. Oh, wow, they closed the roof at some point. I was going to say, it's a little warmer in here. Yeah, it was open for the game. We also have a big winner of the night, big loser the night, Donna Kelsey. Yeah.

yes that's tough because obviously one son won one son lost she was saying something before the game about how like it's incredibly hard to think about having one son have so much pain from losing the super bowl i guess it's good that he already has one i guess you know that's one thing but like yeah it's tough for jess and cali have do you think if you were in the super bowl with your brother your mom would have would be impartial or would she lean one way i don't care for job i know i don't care for jove of all my children equally i don't care for Danny. I don't care for a Danny. Where would she go? Where would Mama High Fitz Lean? She would... Well, okay. Also, well, you're also...

Michael, yeah. If you and Michael had to be Travis Kelsey and Jason Kelsey, who would be who? I would be the center. He's more athletic than... I definitely would not be like... Personality-wise,

who's Travis Kelsey personality-wise? You got the podcast. I guess they both do. I don't... Yeah, exactly. They both at the pot. I don't know. I can't sing.

So you're the bombastic podcast host. If I have to catch, it's him. If I have to sing, I can't sing. So I'm not just going to your point about my mom. I would say that my mom would root for equally, but in terms of the Harbaugh's when they were in the Super Bowl, the moms went to the losing locker room. Like, that's what the parents did.

If Michael lost the Super Bowl, he wouldn't want to talk to my mom. So she would just come celebrate with me. We're talking about a lot of winners here. You haven't really mentioned one big one. You said lose her down at Kelsey. Yeah. but you're missing one.

I can't think of any. I can't think of any. Who can we mention? A true game changer. I think we're done with the winners. Kind of played a pillow roll. There was a point during the game where Bill Barnwell tweeted something along the lines of Cadarious Tony has one snap so far. We're like, our running joke.

You want to know something? When this halftime came and he had, I think he had a target maybe, I felt great. I felt, I was like, I feel no fear. Yeah. I truly trust. Edward D. Edward D.S. doesn't come in until the ninth inning. That's right.

He's the NFL version of a closer. He is. I'm running Cadarious Tony, so we're talking about, my bandit of existence because the Giants traded him away. And honestly, the only, I think, I really think this is true. Maybe New York fans can email us at random fantasy football at gmail.com. I really think it's the only athlete that's left a team I love that I really, like, like I just was like, I hate this guy.

Like, I can't remember feeling that way. And I, our running bit all week was Craig was like, he's going to have two touchdowns. And I was like, you know, he said at least one. He'll at least one. No, sorry, he was at least two. It was two plus. No, he said at least two.

And then I said, I'd like to bet under five snaps. And Craig was like, I don't see the problem. You can win both. No problem. And he kind of, he did that, basically. I said, I was like, has the Super Bowl MVP ever played less than 10 snaps? Because if he would turn to that punt, if he finished those two yards. He wouldn't have won MVP, but like, he could have gotten a vote.

I will admit this. He's not going to win over my home. Those two plays, those three minutes changed the end. entire game. I mean... Do you want to know the most killer part of this whole thing? The Sky Moore touchdown? Yeah. Which was, it was literally, I don't know if it was identical, but it was basically the same concept as the first Tony touchdown where he ran, basically faked like he was going to do a jet sweep

and then hit the brakes and went outside and the defenders just didn't know where the hell he went. If they just had lined him up on the other side, Craig... Oh my God. Craig would have won a lot of money and he would maybe want MVP. When Tony scored, I just started laughing and then I was like, you know what? At least YouTube goons didn't see it because you guys were like going to get sausages or whatever. I was like, you know, at least Craig didn't see this.

Incorrect. And then you did. Yeah, because we were leaving and they were like marching down. And I was like, they're in the red zone. Tony's going to be in. And what happened? He comes trotting in, Edwin Diaz. He comes in like a few plays later.

They go right at him. Once again, Craig and I were like jump hugging like in the encore somewhere. Like Steve Balmer on stage. the Microsoft thing. We weren't rooting in the cheese box, so I think we can skirt the rules, you know? Yeah, right. I hate that rule that you can't do that.

But I love that. I just love that the chiefs don't play him. But every time he's in, they just give him the ball when he's in. He plays like eight snaps and gets five touches every game. He's the black box on the airplane. Yeah. You're like, make the whole team out of it. Make the whole plane out of this.

What's going on? That's okay. So top 10 receivers. Where does he stand now? Probably four. Okay. Yeah. In the NFL.

It's like Devonte. Oh, I thought we were talking all time. Oh, sorry. I just meant this year. All right. One. God. Legacy talk.

The punt return was pretty electric. You got to admit. Well, what's the Mount Rushmore of NFL players ever? So it's Tom Brady. It's Brock Purdy. It's Joe Montana. And then Kaderas Tony is...

It's Brock Purdy because although he hasn't played in the Super Bowl, like he should have and if he did, he would have been incredible. Easily. If he just put him there, they'd probably win 70 to nothing. Also, wait, you know what? You know who actually was one of the biggest winners of this?

Hmm. So the 49ers. All the 49ers who all week were like, Eagles suck. They're going to get exposed. Yeah, but are they winners? Because the Eagles look great. The Eagles look good. They looked awesome.

That's true. They kind of lost like both ways. They lost by the way. Because like, they're all saying getting to get exposed. And then people were like, you shouldn't say that. And Debo was like, why? I think they're going to lose. So it's like they lost.

They did give up a lot of points. But they did not get exposed. I think the Niners' main point was the defense was going to get exposed. The defense led up what, 31? That's, yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 31.

And, well, honestly, no. didn't. They let up 23 because the punt return doesn't count to the two yard line. That doesn't count. You can play in the special teams, but the defense only gave up three touchdowns. Yeah, that's fair. So it's honestly, defense did pretty good. Call it a wash. Yeah, but then you could also say the only reason why they scored 23 points is because Mahomes never had the damn ball. Yeah, he didn't have to go down and score more. Like, Mahomes was extremely efficient. Every time they got the ball, they like, did something good. Mahomes was 21 of 27, 182 yards and three touchdowns. And again, a QBR out of 100, 96.

So that's pretty good. I wouldn't consider 23 points like a win for the Eagles defense because Mahomes didn't have a ball. Can we do a little segment called Flex? Sure. Okay.

So I... Can you talk about Jackie? I just got a... Yeah, well, usually I talk about Jackie. I just got out of the Chiefs locker room. Nice. It was awesome. Dude, that was easily the coolest thing

I have ever done. I don't know what happened, but I basically just ended up celebrating with like the nuts. I wasn't celebrating. I was watching them celebrate. I felt like Steve Bomber. Like, I'm just there and then all these players.

Check, Hyvitz. Tag your Instagram. Yeah, my Instagram is at Danny Hyfitz on Instagram. And I'm, uh, it's my story. It's just, I'm covered right now in champagne and I think I smell like cigars. Do you consider yourself a Super Bowl champion having been in that room? No, but honestly, like when the thing is about is the same as Vic Fangio. Wait, no, sorry.

We'll get into that later. Okay. You and, wrong team. You and Melvin Gordon equally Super Bowl champion. Ronald Jones, Hyphitz and Melvin Gordon. John Ross. or all Super Bowl champions. John Ross won a ring.

So, well, you tell me how close, I think it's like me, what's that moneyball quote? There's 50 pounds of shit. Yeah. And then there's us.

Yeah, exactly. Then it's like, Mahm's, like, Melvin Gorn's probably closer to me than Mahomes. Yeah.

I'm not saying I'm close to either. Did you get your hands on a bottle of champagne? No, I, that seems like, you know, dicey. It's just,

it's not my champagne. Don't do that. But, but like, but like, dude, the, I feel a little dushy being like,

while I was in the locker room. But the vibe of Patrick Mahomes, like, as Rihanna would say, the aura is insane. Yeah, like, I walked in there. ORA. And it's kind of like,

is ORA? The New York accent. You said, ORA in the most New York way. Aura. Aura. Aura. Rita ORA.

Alphins Aura. Vives. Anyway, keep going. Yeah. I walk. So I go to the Chief's locker room and Mahomes wasn't there yet back from his press conference.

And the guys are in there and they're like happy. but they're like smoking cigars. Honestly, a lot of they're like on their phones and like happy and like vibing but they're sitting down.

Patrick Mahomes walks into this locker room and like the lights in their eyes that flick on and they're like he goes individually to every person

and he walks in with the W like the championship belt and people are free like he walks in they put the music on and they start dancing like the literally honestly you know what I thought of

Kesha like the party don't stop till I walk in that was like literally the chiefs locker Party don't start till I walk in. What? Party don't start till I walk in.

Yes. The party don't start. But it was just sick. And then there's a moment, like, they kick all the reporters out, and I'm, like, walking out. And I turn on, he's just finally-stays in. Yeah, no, I just stayed there. Well, that's my classic hyphids move. He, like throws on a jersey.

Yeah, no, I get one of those t-shirts. Melvin Gordon's, he wasn't using it. Like, Noah Gray? Is that? You can definitely pass for one of those guys. I don't know. Well, I think I could pass as Melvin Gordon just because I don't know if they know what he looks like. I don't think they know he's on the team.

John Ross, is that you? But Mahomes is finally alone for what I imagine it's the first time in like 10 hours or whatever. And he's sitting at his locker room or sitting his locker and he's just like alone. He's looking at his phone. And Clyde comes over, who also Clyde like barely played or didn't at all.

No, he was inactive. And he went over and Clyde reaches over and like rips Mahomes' nameplate off the locker room. And I think he just kept it. Like, I think he just kept the nameplate. It's amazing. Good souvenir.

But it was a sick image because it was like every player sitting at their locker at their name. And then Mahomes, like, just doesn't need the name. That's awesome. That is really cool. I think it's kind of fun to think about because we revere Mahomes, you know, like as outsiders. But like his teammates probably worship that dude. Worship is the right.

Yeah. Like, dude, two defenders who I will not name were literally sitting there and I kind of was just there. And they were literally sitting next to each other. And they were kind of talking out, dude, there's no reason we can't win the Super Bowl next year. Like we're going to. Like, this is the Alexander Grape analogy that I was used with Tom Brady. Like his teammates literally think he's, unkillable. You can't kill this fucking guy.

I mean, they broke his ankle, still played. What's that quote from the ice guys? I don't think I can die. Did you just fall off the roof? Yeah. I don't think I could die. Like the vibe of the conversation was like, it was two of the really young rookies on the Chiefs D and they were basically like, dude, we just won the Super Bowl. We had no idea what we were doing. Like we had no idea. No, next year we're going to know stuff. Can you imagine? Imagine Tony year two in the offense. God damn it.

Craig is really staking his, like, reputation on Caderie's Tony. He's really fucking good. We have been talking about Caderius Tony and I was, oh, dude, it's nuts that he just, like, swung the Super Bowl.

This was a joke. We literally spent 90 minutes looking for Cadarius Tony at the media night. That was like all we did. We were talking about three months. I'm dead serious when it was, when it was halftime

and he had zero touches. I was like, I still feel good about it. I was like, he will play a role. I hate this. All right, we're going to halftime on the podcast.

Talk about Rihanna. The true winner of the game was Rihana. Can I, It was a sexual performance to say the least She did all Like if you've ever wondered If you should follow your dreams

Rihanna just did like The best hits of her BDSM album In front of like a hundred and twenty million people She started the show with Which we all tried to guess We were way off She started with bitch better have my money And did they

I don't think they bleeped it She said bit like she was like I assume they bleeped it Yeah I'm sure they did But she did the middle song She also did wild thoughts Yeah And that was I didn't expect wild thoughts

No That's not up there for me That's not a pantheon I'm not sure I even recognize that one. It was just in all the intent. It was like, it was like, it was the guitar riff. Yeah. I mean, I can't remember, but yeah.

Yeah. It was very sexual. Dude, it was such a good performance. I mean, this was electric. First Super Bowl. This is the first time I've ever been to a football game that had a fucking musical act. And I feel like, imagine, like, if we were at the 13 to three Super Bowl and it's like cold play. And then we get Rihanna descending down on this like cool floating shit square.

Like, I don't know how it. looked on TV. I'd love to, I'm going to watch that later. But like, it was striking how. It was like, it was like, Gary, how high she was for a while there. Also, it looked like, unless they were really see-through, it looked like there were no railings on those floating tiles. She was. She was. She was. Yeah, I think there were wires

that were like invisible anchors. She was like 150 feet high or whatever. It was higher than that. Yeah. This is how higher goalpost? I assume we could Google that. Probably like, seven. She sounded great. Actually, 150's probably right. She sounded great.

I thought they did a fantastic job with the production. Watching the set being built was incredible. It took like five minutes. I can't believe they do it. And she's the thing. This building of the set kind of destroyed the field,

but honestly worth it. Who do we need players for? And then maybe healthy, why do we need healthy ACLs when we can have Rihanna perform? Also, we couldn't really see because like, it wasn't even our angle. Nobody in the stadium can see Rihanna that up close.

You see her on the Jumbotron if you want to get a close-up of her. But after the performance, everybody on Twitter was like, Rihanna pregnant? My fiancee texted me. Not everyone. I don't think any man was attuned to this. That's facts.

And all the women I know were like, Rion is pregnant, like for sure. And I was like, all the men I know were like, really? We're like, mate, Liz texts me like, Rihanna pregnant? A lot of men mansplained. She's like, she's not pregnant. She was like the zipper placement makes me believe pregnancy. And then what do you know, her team announced right after the performance, she is pregnant. Nice.

Baby number two. Congrats. It was a great performance. I loved it. Holding up the rock at the end. It was like this massive flex from Jay-Z. Wasn't, it was a, it was a, it wasn't like her wedding ring. It was a-

No, it was the rock. It was the j-z sign. Oh, no, but she was flashing her ring too, right? They were saying she had a baby ring on or something. Oh, I don't know. A baby ring? Yeah. Again, way over my head.

Listen, I don't know how. I don't know how babies were. We were about 1,000 feet away, but. Maybe I got the baby thing wrong. Baby ring wrong. Somebody said something about baby ring, mother ring. I don't know. What was your favorite song from that?

It's called mother-ring. Mother Ring. What was my favorite song? Dude, the opening with Bitch Better I Have My Money was an insane way to start a Super Bowl halftop show. That's like a crazy. Also, the diamonds at the end.

Oh, the diamonds at the end with the flashlight. Diamonds was really cool. I decided to have Phil Knight hate me when took a video of the thing that has like 100 cameras on it with the diamonds, because everyone took their flashlights out. I was like,

this is the thing where my video will actually be like more complex. I took a video of the song. That was insane. Everyone had their flashlights out. She used umbrella a little bit. That was cool. I was going to say,

I think umbrella was my favorite just because, I don't know. It hit the hardest. I thought Jay-Z was going to come out because she did run this town into umbrella, no Jay-Z. Honestly,

kind of a flex that she's like, I'm good on guests. All by myself. It honestly really felt like a statement night for Rihanna. Like, I haven't been around in a while, but like I am one of the biggest pop stars

like in the history of music. Yes. I think she's sold the second most albums of any female artist ever. And yeah, it just... This is perfect. It was awesome. Also,

Stapleton crushed the national anthem. I cannot believe he went under. Barely. Shipp felt like it was taking forever. Not in a bad way, but I was like, this is definitely going over. I thought also, a lot of people like to bury national anthem singers. It's always like really highly critical. I feel like he

crushed it and made me proud to be an American. Also, how did, I assume this is because they do all the rehearsals beforehand, but like they timed it so the jets flew over. Oh my God. At the exact perfect moment. As soon as he said, how the hell do they do that? You know what? I had two thoughts during this. What are they doing?

Like, what are they doing before that? Are they circling? Dude, I had two thoughts. I couldn't hear them before they came up. Like, the math on that. The script was good. It's like Apollo 11. Stapleton knew exactly how many seconds he needed to hit.

And so the planes timed it. Yeah, the planes timing, that's insane. And then I thought about it, I was like, I guess that's kind of their thing, right? Yeah. Timing. Well, yes. Here's the thing.

I don't know how they do it. No, I have the same thought of just like, it was flawless. Like, it could not possibly have been better timing. genuinely is someone in are they listening to it in in the sky right they batch it through is somebody like kind of like listening to stableton yeah but that timing that even is hard yeah who's the production assistant executive producer who's talking to someone who's talking like who is in charge of who's on the field like yeah i'm the guy timing up like the stanzas to the like the military base 10 miles from like all right he just landed the free so go like i'd love to know if anyone knows how that works

Oh my God, email us at Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com. Is it as simple as like, yeah, they just like radio up to the jet and they're like, he's about 10 seconds away, get going? Do you think they just have a feat? Well, no, because even if, I don't know. I don't know how they do it. It's so, I guess they just know how long it takes? What were the planes? There was like an F-16 and a Raptor.

There was a couple other ones. I can't remember. I don't know. They were four in a diamond. Did you know the planes? But you're, I know you're a father. I used to build models when I was a little kid. So that's how I knew that.

I don't know. I didn't catch them all, though. I think there's four. Sorry if you guys hear like medals clanging. They're literally like breaking down the stadium right around us. I think that's actually

John Ross's bones being scattered. Can we also say that during the national anthem? I'm sure this was caught on camera. Nick Siriani was like fucking bawling. Oh, the No Sean Marino Award for fucking balling. Dude, I'm not going to lie. It was on the big screen here.

I saw that Craig was like Eagles going to win. I saw that and was like, Eagles going to lose. I was like Eagles by 10 the second I saw that. And then it was. Why not immediately like marched on the field scored? And I was like, uh-oh.

Dude, I respect a man who can cry in front of like literally the biggest audience possible. But he was, yeah, he was like, I got swept up in the moment. It was more than the No Sean Moreno tear drop because that was like one gigantic singular tear. That was like, I didn't know tears could be that big. Like, Siriani was weeping. He was like legit weeping. You know how like when you're like holding it a fart when you're on a date and then the second the girl goes out of the car, you just unloaded out of the car. You just unload.

That was like what No Sean Reno's eye was doing. It was like holding on to all the water. It's like, we're not going to cry. And then it just unloaded all it was. So with Siriani, I respect a man who can be vulnerable. At the same time, we were trying not to laugh. Yeah, we all laughed. We were all trying to laugh.

We were like, holy shit. The song's not that guy. His eyes are just like bloodshot. Settle down, dude. It's a football game. Craig, you like the national anthem. I thought Stableton killed it. Yeah, he really did.

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Please drink responsibly. All right, Eagles. Eagles were not frauds. No, you know, if we had to give out a loser, I really don't think anyone on the field, I guess you could say Miles Sanders, but I don't think anyone was really a loser. The Eagles played incredibly.

I actually think more highly of them than I did going into this game, and I think these are going to be the two best teams in the league hitting into next season. Yeah. Yeah, I think that so many times, I think we forget how football is, almost impossible,

not just to be great, but to maintain greatness. There's a reason that one team can do it every decade or two. It's just so hard. And this is the first Super Bowl I've seen where I'm like, I think both these teams can do it next year. Usually it's like they always fall off.

And again, with the caveat that Eagles, 22 starters in this game, that's usually the reason. We look back at every Super Bowl, Bengals Rams last year, those were two healthiest teams the NFL. These right here, cheese Eagles,

these are like to two healthy teams in the NFL. But health is kind of the only thing that can stop these. Like, there's no, honestly, neither of them

are losing, like, crazy players. Like, they were going to lose guys that you saw tonight, but...

Eagles are going to lose their offensive coordinator. Yeah, they'll get some brain drain going on with the coaches. Yeah. I don't know. I haven't seen it officially

if anyone was hired or not, but yeah, um, they're going to lose some coaching staff, but... I can't tell you how impressed I was at Jalen Hertz. Yeah. Oh my God.

He was fucking fantastic tonight. Other than the fumble, which, you know, it happens. Yeah. But I don't think he missed a throw. He was threading the needle.

The throw to Goddard in the corner. That throw to Goddard was incredible. The throw to Goddard was the best throw. So we have the end zone view because we were basically our, the auxiliary box was just below the giant jumbo screen at the very, I don't know which end of, it's the eagle's end of the field. And so we could see it's like,

he threaded the needle between two defenders. Number one, he lofted it up just high enough so the first defender or the lower defender could not get to it. And then Goddard went up and reeled it in like very close to not being a catch. But that was amazing. It was like maybe his best throw all day. His deep balls were great.

I don't know. He just played so smart, consistent, like such a powerful runner. He had to throw to Devante Smith that was amazing too, that they overturned. All his deep balls were perfect. I mean, he really was sensational tonight,

like in every aspect. I have no notes on Jalen Hertz. It was also really cool as the Ringer Fantasy Football show to have the Super Bowl feature like two of the best three quarterbacks in fantasy. Absolutely.

Like, how many you say he had like 40-something points in fantasy? He had 41 fantasy points. He had 41 Fats. I think that this is the future, like what we were just saying. Stephen, we were next to Stephen and Salk

in the press box Steven at one point turning me. He was like, you think Tom Brady could run out of these fucking offenses. Yeah. And I was like, dude, like, here's the thing.

Hertz was amazing in this game. And even then, I say this as a compliment, he can still get better because the deep passing was like solid, but like he could still get better because the A.J. Brown touchdown, honestly,

Trent McDuffie kind of fucked that up. Like, that was double coverage and his job was staying on the outside. And he was like, but what if I was in the middle? And then he was like, uh-oh. And he threw one deep ball

in the double coverage with Andrew Brown. That was the incomprehers. He got the touchdown and then one was incomplete. Could have been two picks. But having said that, he got the big touchdown, AJ Brown. But, like, this game to me is, the Eagles, after a thousand years of missing receivers, Devonte Smith was worth it.

AJ Brown trade was worth it. And then Jalen Hertz, man, like, I, again, this is not a backhand compliment. This is high school football. And that's a compliment in that they have dragged the concept at high school that dominate with like, you know, simplicity and superior athleticism, be like, if you master the simplicity of this, like, we're unbeatable. That's how this offense felt. And it's like, I don't know, you're going to, I feel like there were a lot more Jalen Hertz

is coming to the NFL, like more than future Patrick. Like teams are looking for the next Mahomes. Zach Wilson, disaster. It's like, don't look for Mahomes. He's an alien. But Jalen Hertz to me is like the future of what teams should want. And the leadership. The other thing that it struck me about the Eagles offense and just the Eagles in general this

game is it did feel like, in addition. to like playing with an extra personal offense because they do the run out the read option and you know like basically you're blocking you're blocking a defender with nobody because of the read option or whatever so they like pull out an extra

offensive player more or less because of that they also have a way of like extracting an extra down it feels like compared to most teams because of the way that they and Craig kept being like or you know whoever every time we saw this they're like they'd run on like a third and eight

And Craig would be like, wow, that's pretty bold. They're running on third and a day. I'm like, but that's because they're probably going to keep going on fourth down. Like this is basically they're looking at it like two downs and eight yards. I mean, how many third and ones and third and twos and fourth and twos did they convert tonight? Just by like getting up to the line and just like stuffing it forward. I mean, the chiefs almost lost this game because Andy Reid went for them or kicked the field in fourth and two. That doink, I mean, that would be a game altering play.

But to your point, D. D.K., when we worked with Michael Lombardi earlier, he always talked about teams like the 2017 Eagles that played Canadian football. in that you really want to get your first downs on first or second down. Oh, wow. They just turned out the lights. There's a shocking amount of people still on the field. There's like, there's like 200 people.

But they're not. It's like, none of them players. Yeah. I think they let like the, Lingers. I think the VIP people ended up on the, it's just.

Linger. Oh, man. Sorry, no, you're good. In Canadian football, you only get three downs. Yeah. So you get a first or second.

Yeah. And then you have to punt on third. and it was like the good teams, you know, you want to get your first down for a second, not even worry about third. And the Chiefs did that a lot tonight. The Eagles try to do that, but then they go front and fourth.

So they're like trying to play Canadian football. They actually just play like next level football. Like they have four downs to go 10 yards. I think math, you only need two and a half yards down. You know what I mean? Yeah. It does to me like completely change.

Not only does it change like the math of like how many yards you have to get on each particular play, but like change it. Third down no longer feels like so critical. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like for most, teams, almost every team in the NFL, lights are back on. All right. For most teams in the NFL,

almost every team in the NFL, like third down is the most critical down. Because if you don't get it, you're punting, you're giving up a possession, you're giving the ball back to Patrick Mahomes in this case. But like for the Eagles, it felt like, oh yeah, third down, like we can just run our stuff. We can, we don't have to be too crazy on third down. We don't have to push it into double coverage. You know, we can just do our thing. You know what it does? It turns third down into a Saturday instead of a Sunday. It's a three-day weekend. You don't get the scary. a three-day weekend. If there's one,

I think you're so on the money, D.K., and I actually would say, if there was one part of this podcast, other than Cadar's, Tony, being a Mount Rushmore football player, that we look back on five years from now and we're like, that was right. I think it's what D.K. just said.

It's a three-day weekend. Think about how you're playing your day on Sunday when you know you have work on Monday. You're not leaving the house. You're doing chores. You're being super conservative. You don't want to drink too much. Saturday, a completely different vibe.

And that's what third down turns into when you know you're going to go forward on fourth. It's an extra day off. Well, no, I think it's third is Sunday. It's the Sunday Scaries. And then when they go from fourth, it's like, oh, it's President's Day. Oh, sure. Same concept.

Like, do you have a day off in front of you is my point? Yeah. And it's, you know what? Big, good old big picture for a second. The Eagles have now, I mean, one in 2017 and then 2022. The things that have swept football, and I'm fascinated by this, are, like, intuitive to anyone who plays Madden. the three big trends are passing over running, mobile quarterbacks,

and going forward and fourth down. And those are the three big trends of the 21st century. And it's like, none of them's rocket science. It's passing because seven yards is worth more than four. And then running, it's like, if you've ever played mad, and you're like, oh, shit, this play didn't work. You know what I mean? You just go and you just get it anyway.

You're telling me, eight-year-old me was really ahead of the game. You're basically Andy Reid. Yeah, prophetic. The idea that a possession is more valuable than the field position is so, intuitive if you play the game. And the Eagles, I think, still almost won this game because they did that. Well, and I think what I was also getting to is, man, I would have loved to have seen them have the ball. Have a chance to go back and score, you know?

Because, number one, so they could have obviously driven down the field, but two, they could have gone for a two-point conversion if they had scored a touchdown. You know, say they had to like tie the game up or whatever. Well, they would have been down three. Well, no, I'm saying if they had had a chance to like match, you know, based on a, everything that happened because McKinnon basically slid because they you know what I'm saying like if the chief had scored a touchdown it would have been great to have seen

what would have happened if they had a chance to get the ball because that would have been Yeah, can you imagine if Sireani goes for two to to win the Super Bowl? Nick Sriani is who Brandon Staley wants to be like when I heard scored that two point conversion it did not look like he was getting in what did you say Nick Sariani is who Brandon Staley wishes he was

That's accurate. Yeah I just love the aggressiveness Yeah I actually think Andy Reid they won this game. I hate to, God. I think you know this is true because I'm saying it. Cadarious Tony bailed Andy Reed's ass out.

Because, and I'm intrigued? If the Chiefs lose this game... I suppose from 6 to midnight. Go on. The Chiefs lose this game. What are we talking about with Andy Reed? It's that he didn't go for him fourth and two

with Mahomes when the Eagles would have been like three for four. And also, whatever the box score says, they're not counting a fourth and two where the Eagles drew it off sides. So they had an extra fourth down from whatever the box score says. And then when the chief scored, and they were up seven, they kicked the extra point. They should have gone for two to go up nine because there's no downside.

It's like the Eagles were going two-yard conversion. Their odds must have been four out of five chance to get it. So not to get two game three, but if you go, if you are up seven, you kick the extra point, you go up eight. Well, they're going to go for two. They're probably going to get it. And they did. It was easy.

He was like untouched. But if you go for two and you get it, you're up nine. That's two possessions. Yeah. If you go for two and you miss it, you're up seven. They're probably not going to go for two. agree. They're probably going to match anyway.

So I actually think Andy Reid, if they, like, I kind of think that there would have been a lot of meat I left on the bone. I don't know. I think there's something there. Bailing out is a strong way of putting it, maybe. Yeah, bailing out. Based on the way that. Strong but accurate.

Yeah. Anyway. Speaking of the Eagles, should we have a moment of silence from Alist Sanders? Yeah, what? I mean, the weird part of this game is that the Eagles ran the ball like shit. Yeah. Dude, they were her and her over 70, but that's it. That, that, that, that, is.

I think that that's a decision that the Chiefs made is we actually want Jalen Hertz to run. And we want to see a field take. This game was like in a modern way physical. It wasn't like Steelers Ravens 2009. But holy shit, did the Chiefs beat the crap out of Devonte Smith? D.K. and I were saying this. Remember, D.K., we were walking around media night on Monday. All the players were like on the floor with us. And both of us, I mean, this means nothing.

But we were like, Chiefs are bigger than the Eagles. Chiefs just seem bigger. All their players are bigger. Big guys. Big boys. Yeah. But they were basically like, yeah, okay, cool. Let your Jalen Hertz get creamed.

And he did, and he did great. Devonte Smith got killed a couple times and was beat up in this game. He left once, came back. He was really beat up too. Let's see if I can do math live on air. The Eagles running backs had 17 carries for a resounding 405 yards. Yeah, so under three yards of carry. I mean, that's, yeah.

Well, the weird thing was, so going back to, Sanders real quick. He just kind of seemed to disappear. He fumbled. Technically, he didn't lose it, but he fumbled and he lost yards on the first carry of the game. I don't know that. Right on the sideline. Yeah, I don't know if that affected anything. But then he also had that play where he caught the ball, turned, fumbled. Technically didn't fumble because they didn't count it as a catch. That turned into what would have been a touch on if they hadn't overturned it. Like, he just didn't look good. Like this game and they were using Kenneth Gainwell and Boston's got a lot. Like maybe that was just based on the way that they wanted to use those guys in the

passing game, but, um, Miles Center's going to free agency, D.K., do you even think he's an impressive guy? Like, would you, I mean, he certainly didn't help his case with this game, especially since there was basically like a three team or three running back rotation. He's probably just another guy, right? Yeah. Yeah.

I don't think he's going to get paid, especially, or like huge dollars, in a, in a year where there's a lot of really good running backs and a lot of really good running back. And sorry, in free agency and in the draft. It's going to be hard to, it's going to be hard for me to see him get like big bucks. He's still youngish. He's like 25, 26. Yeah. AJ Brown's,

so I also have to, Eagles fans have been mad at me. Is that right? They've been reaching out? I just assume. Okay. Because we, well,

actually know, I just done assumptions because Chris Ryan DM does from London to say like, I'm going to physically harm you about what you said about the Eagles. Yeah.

While we're talking about frauds, I've been talking about the Eagles being frauds. Dude, Chiefs fans kind of frauds. You know what? You're right. Chief fans are frauds. I love it.

How many years... Just calling them out. Forever it was like Seattle, loudest crowd in America. Yeah. And then like, you know, the Seahs got worse.

And then the Chiefs were like, hey, we're just as loud. Maybe we're louder. And like, I guess Arrowhead is a loud place. In this stadium, the Eagles home game. Yeah.

If you used your eyes, 50-50. I don't even know about that. If you used your ears, it was 80-20 Eagles. It was 100. This felt like a home game for Philadelphia. It was unbelievable.

There was times when, when the Eagles were on offense and it was like deathly silent in here. Like that's when the crowd is usually supposed to be trying to get really loud. That first touchdown drive Philly had, my brother texted me watching it. He's like, that's the loudest roar I've ever heard like from the television

on a neutral site game. It's really weird because again, at the media night, the Chiefs fans were by far louder. There's a massive horde of Chiefs fans come to murder us. I don't know if you can hear that. It's just like some sort of food cart. Okay. But yeah, like during media

During media night, Chiefs fans, by far louder, Super Bowl night. There was moments where it was legit, like, silent. Also, like, I didn't, every time we went to the bathroom, the entire bathroom was just filled with Eagles fans. I was like, are there Chiefs fans here at the stadium? I was going to say, like, the Eagles fans, from the moment we walked in, it was just like, Hey, gee, out, eagles. But there were no even Chiefs fans that were even responded, like, go, they just let them be. Does it make you think that every team needs a chant?

well the chiefs have their issues with this sure but like in general like the fact that they can do the fly they have like soccer chance and the EAG LES thing do you think every team needs one to really have it like a strong fantasy it would help yes that's that I feel like every team's marketing I don't think like the CX don't have that my team I've never had that with my team but you're like there's 12 man vibes of a state yeah but that's not a chant I know but it's like you have a thing

we're the loudest stadium in America I think you got to figure it out like what are Bengals fans thing who day oh yeah they say who day question, are you actually loud as Seahawks fans, or are you frauds that just play in a stadium design to keep noise? They pump in noise. Yeah, could any group of people that just fill the stadium

and do it? I think, uh, I don't know, going back to the Super Bowl where they beat the Broncos, they beat the pants off the Broncos, I think that was really loud for Seahawks fans. Like, what do the Falcons fans do? What's their thing? What do the Giants have? It's, well, it's go G, man. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We're talking with the Eagles, this is like

a full-on song, essentially. yeah, well, they have a song. Anyway. And they have Go Birds, which I've heard. Go Birds. Oh, my God. Just an incessant amount. 7,500 times this week.

Did you love it? I got to say, cheese fans, a little bit more, a little bit more reasonable people. Let's just say that. Polite from the heartland. Just a little less passionate than Eagles fans. Let's just say that.

The world is that candid compliments. I mean, the world's probably a better place that Philadelphia. lost, right? I don't know. I don't know what's going on outside the stadium right now. Oh, here's my other question. What are they doing?

What are you to walk out to? What do they do with all the Chrisco-greased poles in Philadelphia now that no one's going to climb them? They just leave that there? I guess. That must be gnarly. Yeah.

While we're here, I don't know how we didn't get to this. It's actually good that we haven't added to this yet because it didn't affect the game too much. The field was a catastrophe. Yeah. People were a slip and slide out there. Like, it's good that there was no big play.

But we were really close. close. So, like, I feel like it was like a thing in the first half. The second half they come out, there were three plays in a row where like the person

near the ball or trying to tackle the guy with the ball just fell. Yeah. And was it like, was it because of the halftime show? Like, well, no, so, all right.

Maybe partly, but. No, but it's about the sod father, as Roger Sherman called them. So the real, the guy who sauded the grass. Yeah, before all this happened, someone could be that.

The real Super Bowl MVP tonight is George Tom. He's 94 years old. Has been a groundskeeper for a lot of times, prepared, for 37 Pro Bowl, several World Series in every single Super Bowl in history, and his name's the Sodfather. I think he's going to be sunsetted.

Because of this game. Because of this game. But did you see there was a story that... Layoffs have been crazy these days. They've been... Another layoff. 6% of this grounds keeping staff, yeah. Did you see that they... Roger Goodell to lay off one employee the Sodfather. Making cuts.

Making cuts. They've been growing this grass or something for like two years, specifically for this game. You're serious? It was like their new experimental. Here, let me pull it up. And it was like a wet, sloppy mess. No, let me pull it up.

This is crazy. There were pictures of like a giant bucket full of shoes because all the players had to like change their shoes midway to the game. Yeah, Hyvitz you found this out during the game. The Eagles were changing cleats every quarter. Well, they were like, yeah, they changed cleats. It's like, oh, look, it hurts with the Jordan stuff.

It's like, no, it's like their cleats are unusable. They're taking them off. So, uh, it's golf grass. They're like experimenting. They were, it's turf is to home up. beer from waste management. Exactly. Among other things.

Tahoma 31. One of the newer breeds of grass, developed with the funding of the USDA, the United States Golf Association, a mix of Bermuda grass and ryegrass developed at Oakland State University. It's basically a big PR thing

that they were trying to brag and now everyone's like, it was a disaster. Wow. But they've been blowing this for a long time and they were like, oh, this would be great for football. So they should never do it.

Players from both teams were complaining about it after the game. Yeah, it was a disaster. But that wasn't the only thing about State Farm Stadium that we wanted to complain about. So while when we walked in, DK was classic me move. DK's worst nightmare.

No, we get in. Number one, it was easy-ish to get into the stadium. So that was great. We got here four and a half hours early. Yeah, which Craig was,

you know, like, DK's like the dad who takes his kids to the airport, like six hours before the flight. And you get through security in like 20 minutes. Well, at least we're here. Yeah,

we don't have to stress now. You know what's super relatable complaining about being, of the Super Bowl early. I had to spend five hours at the game before the game even began. It was too long, in my opinion. God damn it, Craig. Anyway, we got into the stadium easily.

I wanted to scroll my phone in my hotel room. That's like... You could have a nice breakfast. We left out 11.30. Well, we got a nice brunch. Instead, I had some... You know who didn't need to get here so early? Melvin Gordon and Ronald Jones.

They could have gotten brunch. I probably got here earlier than Ronald Johnson. That's actually true, I think, probably. If we're here earlier than the players, we're here too early. Anyway, back to what I was going to say. My initial reaction was State Farm Stadium, superior to the $11D billion dollar state, so-fi stadium, which was at last year.

Last year's Super Bowl, trying to get around the stadium was an absolute cluster five. The concourses don't connect to each other. You hid my Apple Watch, and I have, had to go down. It took me an hour and a half to get it back. Well, that's not the whole story. Your Apple Watch got stuck in the radar. Sorry, not the radar, but the security thing, the X-ray machine.

And so High Fitz goes all the way up to the press box, realizes his Apple Watch is missing. He looks and finds it. But like the stadium is set up so like 40 minutes to get outside. There's no direct route to anything. It's like LA's freaking freeways. Super Bowl security. It took him like, he had to take the 405 down and get on. Get on the 101.

Go back home where you can walk. Anyway, tell me about the Super Bowl. What happened? I don't even know the story. What are you talking about when you got in? My initial reaction was, this is great. We can just walk around the stadium so easily.

It's awesome. And that was the last moment in the entire day that I thought that this stadium was good. It turns out the stadium is actually more similar to LA because the entire like walkways are just like the 405 freeway. Dude. Yeah, there was a...

It was unsafe. There was an actual, like, problem with just congregating people into concourses. They were like, I was worried like there was going to be massive like riots,

fights. They were just all getting smushed together. We got to paint a picture. It was in front of the auxiliary press, no one cares about this, but we'll talk about it.

In front of the auxiliary press box. It was funny. It's behind one of the end zones. There's a, basically a walkway. And I'm not shitting it. It was 12 people deep in infinitely.

It was just as literally as far as the I could see, 12 people deep for probably, I mean, you know, 70 yards of people moving a full.

every couple seconds. It was just like gridlock. And there were, it was so, it was anyway. Eagles fans were getting really upset. Security had to step in and like create like a human chain of people to keep one side going one direction and the other side going the other. And they were like freaking out. Like it was like a legit problem for a while there.

So anyways. Otherwise, should we do, uh, attending a Super Bowl? Yeah. Do you guys want to talk about nice things? Should we do like, great? It was an awesome experience. I thought it was really cool. You know, I,

the only tough parts is like I wish I didn't have to pee Like I almost You know that's like any game But I almost would say you should treat a Super Bowl like a flight Like if you don't like getting up to pee on the plane Because you're sitting in the window seat Like just like

Yeah dry yourself out the night before Because it sucks And you know what else is tough about the stadium There's not TVs on the inside of the stadium Did you notice that? If you're if you're going to the bathroom Try to buy food there's no TVs on the wall You don't know the game

So that's tough But We just open this up so you could talk about how great it is to be at the stadium. With that said, it was a experience I will never forget. And the vibe in here, the electricity,

it's palpable. It's amazing. I mean, it's incredibly cool that we get to go to this. It's super fun. I feel like anytime you do anything live, the difference is you can like feel everything in your chest, like the bass of the music hits.

Like the fireworks hit, the airplane's flying over. It's like so much fucking louder than you could imagine. I also think the spectacle of the halftime show, because on TV it's like they got to cut between like you got to get a close up a rea on or this and that. We're always just getting like the bird's eye kind of like view of everything. And it is really cool.

You feel like everybody pulls their flashlights out. It's literally like the exact, you know how people were talking about how when LeBron hit that shot, everybody's recording it on their phones. It's like the difference of being there versus like watching it on TV is so so dramatic. It's just it attacks your senses. It's so cool. Like you're almost overwhelmed by all. Stings the nostrils.

I will say I did have to kind of. like tell myself to stay off my phone a little bit because I, you end up, you don't realize how much you look at your phone during a game. Yeah. And there'd be a time where I'd like look down and I like missed a run. Right. I was like, okay, I got to like,

I stopped to you just like literally watch the game. Right. And you can write down your thoughts in between, but like do your best to stay off social media, which I tried to do today. Yeah. You get what Phil Knight hates all of us. Yeah.

All right. Was that a sign that Brani going to Oregon? Who knows? He was sitting next to him. Oh, really? Yes. Oh. Interesting.

We didn't hit Vic Fangio. So Vic Fangio, who was the head coach of the Broncos. Yes. And was not employed this year. And at least I thought. And then there was the ESPN story that came out that said, Eagles hired Vic Fangio after the Eagles game to just like come on in. After the 49ers game.

Sorry, after the 49ers game, the Eagles hired Vic Fangio, defensive-minded Vic Fangio to come in and just like consult the Eagles on how to beat the Chiefs. because like, McFangio's been in the AFC West, like he's seen the Chiefs a lot. And apparently, if they would have won today, he would have gotten a ring,

despite the fact that Vic Fangio was hired to be the defensive coordinator of the fucking dolphins long ago before getting hired to be this Niners consultant, which I did not know was allowed. So it was much funnier before,

but just thinking it was two weeks, but so I guess Vic Fangio was consulting for the Eagles like all year and just kind of, it's the thing a lot of coaches do, like they're unemployed, and they're like, let me just consult and get my life together.

And then, but the part that's... Making millions. Wild. Get my life together. It's fine. But the part of this wild, it's like he takes the Dolphins job and then he just keeps the other one. I'm like,

I didn't know they had like a side business policy for Annava. Mike McDaniels like, yeah, he worked for us, but like you can just, it's weird to be on two staffs at once. I think they maybe change his title after the Niners game because ESPN made it sound like the Eagles hired Vic Fangio

the day after the nighters game. To be like, great. Can you help us with the chiefs? We know you have another job, but like whatever. I think they were going to, going to let him go.

And then the Eagles made the Super Bowl against the team that he was in a division against for like four years. And they're like, uh, could we work? My guess is that because the eagle, the dolphins are playing the Eagles this year, it was basically like,

yeah, sure, like two more weeks than they'll show Vic, everything. But yeah, wow. If he'd gotten a ring with like the two week contract he hired, how weird is that?

Wouldn't it be weird to get a ring with the Philadelphia Eagles? And yet if you went to his Wikipedia, there'd be no mention of them. Don't you have friends like that, though? Don't you have friends like that who just sort of like, oh, yeah, I'm an Eagles, I've never heard you talk about these

Dude, we won the Super Bowl I'm like I've never seen you're like I don't Are you not from Philly your parents are from there? Wait, saying we But he could say it Yeah But you know what I mean?

Like under his like as a coach Wikipedia thing It wouldn't it say the Eagles ever Actually you know what it's like I guess if it's your friend Super Bowl champion Vic Fangio and you wouldn't know why Well He's like wearing a dolphin's hat He's just a producer Namedous producer

I guess yeah He's been uncredited Shadow producer or something. I don't know. I was pitching like my friend wearing a dolphin's hat being like, dude, Eagles, let's go. Anyway, what do you think you guys will remember

two years from now? Let's think about this game. Rihanna? Yeah. Yeah, the halftime show is amazing. I think I'm going to remember just like the back and forth shootout that like the epic buildup of this game becoming what looked like might be the best

Super Bowl of all time. Yeah. I know. Honestly, when I think of, when I remember games, you know, because we watch so many games over the years, like, sometimes they bleed together. But like, I'll never forget sitting next to you guys, honestly, just, and we were looking at each other, like, what the fuck is this game? Like, this game is amazing. Like, that feeling is always so fun because you start to realize we're, like, witnessing history. Not to mention the fact we get to see Rihanna, like, at the middle, in the middle of this amazing game, which is just like a wild thing to, like, comprehend. But yeah, I'll remember, like, looking over at you two guys and, like, mouth a gape just like, what is that? this game is insane. It was so much fun.

We were all crying like Siriani together. And then unfortunately, I'm also going to remember the fact that the wind got completely taken out of the sales of what could have been an all-time Super Bowl by like a controversial call at the end. You know, obviously, everyone's going to have different opinions on what it was. But like, a lot of people are just going to think this is like, it ruined

the game, you know? I probably remember Cadarious Tony flaming my eyes. Oh, that moment. Oh, yeah, that was a good moment too. No, but to your point, like, so many games, the first 50, 55 minutes are prolog. And like, when the Chiefs didn't went down and scored and took the lead. I was like,

this is incredible. And then, you know, they kick it back and Tony does it. And I also was like, oh, this is insane. And Jalen Hertz getting the chance.

Okay, like, let's see it, Jalen. Like, we've done it. And he did it. Everything.

Shut up the haters, all that, yeah. He's been, everything to be done on a college football field. Jalen Hurtz has been doubted and then accomplished.

Yeah. And I was like, dude, this, this guy's life. And then he went and did it. And, yeah, that was nuts.

That and also the chiefs players That was awesome. Do you have any interest in doing some post-super Bowl prop bets? Yeah, what do you got? Okay, so we're going to be the only podcast that brings you post-super Bowl props. I would say we were like hit or miss on the pre-super Bowl props and all that stuff. These are more important. Give me your over-under guess.

Where would you set the line? Okay, so we're going to set lines. TBD, if we can ever verify, there's zero chance we can ever actually find the answer. Probably not. Over under on full penetrations that happened during the game. Okay, I feel like you need to back up a bit and give content. to why this is how many people had sexual intercourse in the stadium? You're not giving context.

Oh my God. We were walking around because, you know, we had four and a half hours to kill. And when you do that- Okay, jeez, man. And when you do that, you know, weird conversations come out. We've been hanging out for seven straight days. Hypatts was like, do you think anyone's going to orgasm in this stadium today? And we were like, wow, that's really interesting. Statistically, I was like, we were, we're having 70,000 people here.

Like, one of them is probably going to sneak into the bathroom and have some fun. or two people are going to go do something in a press box or something like that. I think I set the line on one and a half orgasms. Okay. What do you take it? The people listening right now are just like, what the fuck just happened on this show? Real pivot.

It's like what time is. This is 11.15. No one's still listening. What do you think? Do you think, first of all, do you think one and a half orgasms is the proper line? Orgasms? Yes.

That's a good line. Orgas? As opposed to what, penetration? Okay. Okay, penetration is 0.5 is the line. Well. In this setting, I don't know who's finishing. That's right.

I would have to guess only half of the couple. If the Eagles, if that holding penalty was not called and Hertz came down and scored a touchdown in the final minute and a half. It would have been like 60,000 orgasms. It would be just semen all over the stadiums. Okay. Over and around people who shit their pants. This is really tough. We also attended the waste management open on Saturday.

Jesus. Yeah, that was a scene. I'd set the overrunner and shit their pants at that. I'm not even kidding you, like 30. Oh, I'm like, 30. Maybe like 100. There was like 200,000 people. 200,000 people.

So at this event today, the Eagles fans... I'm going to say, do you think one in a thousand people like had a dicey shart at waste management? Way more than that. That's over 200, then. Just more than they bargained for. Yeah, wow, you're right. Dude, getting to the bathrooms at the waste management was extremely difficult.

Yeah. I will say, taking a shit here might have been more stressful because if you would have seen these bathrooms okay this might be getting too much detail but like going in going in going in there's a line of like eight people for each stall

and for whatever reason the bathroom that we went to didn't have any urinal so there's a line of eight people going into eight dudes going into the stall and if anyone had to take a shit and shut the door the entire bathroom would start saying what were they saying they were saying like stop taking a shit or they were like we got a shitter. I think it was we got a shitter. They were saying like, shitter, shitter.

Can you imagine the pressure? You're a public enemy number one. Imagine the pressure of trying to take a shit in that situation. Oh, you just like couldn't. Yeah, you'd have to like. Also, the stall doors for some reason were like malfunctioning or they weren't, you weren't allowed. There was like an unwritten rule. No, they couldn't use them.

People ripped them off of anger. Dude, there was a scene in train spotting where it's like the worst toilet in Scotland. Oh, yes, I remember that. Like, this was up there. And he's having like withdrawal shits or something like that? Yeah, for getting off heroin. Yes. This is on par with that situation.

It was the most disgusting bad. It was on par with heroin withdrawal shit. From 1980s. Mom, you still listening? You can turn it off now. Okay, last one. Or you guys can add any if you want. Over and or on people who got puked on.

People were sauced up before the game. That was why the backups with so many people. People got puked on? Yeah. How many, like, how many like Instagram? Does that include yourself? self? Sure.

If you puke on your shelf, that count? Oh, no. Okay. 10. I'm taking the end. If you have one really bad incident, you could get like four or five right there. Oh, what?

Think about that. Splash damage. Yeah. One in 10,000 people was not vomited on it today. You're probably right. What do you think the odds were that we would say the words heroin withdrawal shit on this podcast? About the odds of Caderie's going to.

Touchdowns. On five snaps. God, he was so close. He was so close. I thought for sure he was going to score to because he had like six guys like had like a solid wall

of blockers but then the eagle's caught up. So I love that I was like mom, you can stop listening now like three minutes after Craig was like yes, the 60,000 people was like semen out of the field. That's what the field was slippery. So that's all I got for that.

If you guys want to add any, let me know. I don't think I have anything after. I think you kind of covered it all. How many, How many people are going to get pregnant tonight? Ooh. Of the, of Cincinnati fans. How many babies are being made?

Cincinnati fans. Kansas City. Kansas City fans? Cincinnati fans? I don't know. Very few. Maybe way less. Does it give me the baby boom.

A lot of babies named Patrick. A lot of cheese babies being named Patrick in nine, nine months from now. Is Patrick Mahomes a really good football name? It's going to become a good name. It's good because he's good, but I don't know if it's objectively good. But Mahomes is kind of fun and different. How boy is. as Tom Brady

20 years ago. Mahomes is not a very common name, so I think it's a good name. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you right. Patrick is not a great name. Like for like all-time or,

what if he went by Patty Mahomes? Like P-A-T-T-Y. Or P-A-D-D. At least, yeah. The only person who calls Mahomes Patrick is actually Andy Reid. Andy Reid calls him Patrick. Everyone else is just Mahomes.

What if it was Rick Mahomes? Oh, Ricky Mahomes? It's actually really weird that if... Fuck, Ricky Mahomes. Ricky Mahomes. We all refer to him as Mahomes. I just,

it'd be so weird if he was just like at my house and I was like, hey Patrick, would you like another beer? I know. Andy reads that the press conference and he's like, Patrick,

unbelievable quarterback. And I'm like, Patrick is too formal. I'm hanging out with Patrick and Thomas here. If he was Ricky Mahomes, he would have gone. Thomas, Theodore.

Dude, the bears would have taken Ricky Mahomes over at Chibisket three. Oh yeah. Ricky. Patrick Mahomes fell. Like, Jalen hurts like the coolest name. Yeah.

Patrick. Patrick. Patrick Harts. It's his dad's name. It's a family name. Oh, yeah, Patrick Mahomes, Sr. I keep forgetting that Mahomes is a junior. You know why?

The second. What's the difference? How do you decide that? I think you can just decide. He doesn't have it on his jersey. I think that's why. He doesn't have Mahomes the second on his jersey. He just says Mahomes.

No, but whether or not you are a junior or a the second. I think that's kind of whether, I think that's a familial decision. It is. It's just like up to your choosing. A mix of whether you wanted to keep going and also just like sounds cooler. I don't know. Did you know his middle name is Levan? Patrick Levan Mahomes.

Levan? Yeah, the second. Cool. That's all. We're at like, what minute are we? I can smell weed right now, by the way. Yeah, we should probably go. Thank you, Craig.

Thank you, from the bottom of my heart. Thank you to everyone who's been listening to us do these insane Sunday pods all year. Like, I really appreciate it. I hope you've had fun. We have had fun doing this. Yeah, I mean, this is the last ringer. We should tell people, I mean, this is the last ringer fantasy football show until the after the draft.

And what we mean by that is like, we're doing it. the NFL draft show here. It's the three of us. We're still here. Yeah, we're doing the show. The art will change. We'll be talking strictly about the draft, but yes, the three of us doing fantasy talk,

you know, not that this is a page episode. And if you still subscribe, it's fine. We're going to change the name stuff, but it's the same pod. So we're going to keep coming to you, so don't worry. Yeah. Tuesdays and Thursdays up until the draft, we will be putting out episodes. And then we're going to go back to the fantasy football show.

So art will change, name will change. Don't worry about it. We're here. And Solac, who now we can make fun of the Eagles all year with Soak. Oh, tough. Yeah. Thank you, Lord! Thank you, Rihanna.

Yeah, man. Oh, nice. Friken amazing. Shine bright. Loved it. If she has a boy, do you think she would name it Patrick? Ooh, in honor of this night? Do you think?

Probably not. I bet she could do Rihanna the two. Rihanna second. That would be sick. Like a queen. Like Rihanna the second. Is her daughter? Rie, too?

Do you think, I don't think she, I don't think she, do you think she stayed to watch the game? We were talking about this. Oh, my God. got in. She is like on a private jet 30 minutes after she's done performing. That's a good question.

Is she in the green room? Do you think that she wants to party with the team? Or do you should? With the team? Do you think she's in bed? There's no way that Rihanna and Marquez Valdez Scantling or at a club together.

Do you think she's already home? A'sab Rocky and like Jay Z and Beyonce probably. Honestly, you're right. She probably flew home to L.A. Or London? I don't know. Craig. What are her whereabouts?

There are a lot of stars here. Like Adele was here. Billy Elish was here. Paul McCartney. Yeah. Have you seen some of the, I don't know, I haven't seen it this year,

but a lot of times people do flight trackers of all the private jets leaving the airport of the city that the Super Bowl is in. Like an hour after the game ends, it's like a, like a fucking swarm of private planes. I got to get me on one of those.

So you never, Roger Goodell was sitting there to Donna Kelsey and DeMar Hamlin. What do you think they were talking about all that? Yeah, seriously. That was like the George Bush, Michelle Obama. He definitely like slipped in there for two minutes,

took a photo and left. Yeah. You know. Such a great setting. What a night. So happy to have you both here. Do we get it? I'm going to go back out with my press box now.

I'm sitting next to Adel. I got an idea. We have to decide who the most famous person here tonight was. Because we saw Ellen Musk. Elon. Some people call me Elon. Ellen. Elon.

I've done this before. I don't know how to say his fucking name. It's weird. It's like Elongate his name. Elon. Elon. Elongate it. Yeah, he elongate it.

There was Paul McCartney. It's probably Paul McCartney, right? Is he more famous than Elon Musk? Well, LeBron was also here. Oh, shit. LeBron. Wow, that's really hard, actually. Out of those three, Elon Musk,

Paul McCartney and LeBron. I mean, Ben Solac literally didn't know who Paul McCartney was. No, nice he did. I don't, he didn't know him. No, he said Paul McCarney. He got Paul McCartney and John Leonard. He just didn't know Ringo. Ringo and

George Harrison. I think Paul McCartney is the most famous person. I think Paul McCartney's probably Who's more famous than him? We were talking Elon, LeBron,

Paul McCartney. I don't think Elon Musk is more famous than Paul McCartney. Paul McCartney's been around way longer. Yeah, the question is him being like famous in the 60s

is like... Yeah. Yeah, I think it's got to be... And like worldwide touring, you know what I mean? Right. He's been everywhere. I'm trying to think

if we saw anyone else. But yeah, I agree. Paul Rudd? I think Mahomes is more famous than Paul Rudd. Do you think? Dude, Paul Rudd is in the these, no, because the international box office for the Avengers.

Wait, what about Tom Cruise? Oh, yeah, right. Was he here? Oh, yeah, right, yeah. He's actually stuck in the rafters right now. He's hanging up there still. Yeah. And he just started filming Mission Impossible 9

up on the rafters. Do you think that the whole shooting down of the balloons is an elaborate Mission Impossible shoot? Oh, my God. Like, it just turns out that Tom Cruise is a stunt. They drop a trailer and just

Tom Cruise has shot down all these things. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, not believe anything. Fast to the Furious 10. Hard to continue that mythology. An extended trailer for Fast 10 just came out today. Yeah, I know. They shot down, yeah, the Department of Defense announced. I'm excited to watch the commercials too, by the way.

No Whopper, Wopper, Wopper, Wopper. Yeah. They don't need it. They already took over the world. They were on the ring of fans. $7 million for it. They're like, we already, we already, infected us. Yeah.

Let's go to Burger King. Let's go get a Wopper. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. Because we rule. This actually sucks because I'm hungry. It's 1130. Yeah. Then I have to edit this damn thing.

You're going to have to get some popcorn and cookies. What were the things you got in the hotel like snack bar? I got popcorn. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Almonds. Like a slim gym like popcorn. Almonds and a slim gym.

Oh, okay. I'm trying to stay healthy. Those are the free food groups. Yeah. All you're missing is syrup. That's my food pyramid. All right, goodbye, everyone.