The Ringer NFL Show - Swiping Left and Right on the NFL’s Top Free Agents

Episode Date: March 10, 2021

We discuss Dak Prescott’s new contract, the end of the career-ending injury era, and his value next season. Then we debut our free-agency dating game in which we swipe left or right on all the notable 2021 free agents and franchised tagged players. Dak Prescott (7:24) Allen Robinson (12:47) Kenny Golladay (16:28) Aaron Jones (24:23) Juju Smith-Schuster (30:16) Will Fuller (34:55) Todd Gurley (43:54) Chris Carson (50:48) Leonard Fournette (53:26) Hunter Henry (57:15) Email us! [e-mail] Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On Fairway Rowland, Joe House and Nathan Hubbard are joined by a rotating cast of Ringer and golf world personalities to break down the latest in golf headlines and news. They also delve into the world of golf gambling. Check out Fairway Rowland on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Heifitz. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Krollbeck. Are you guys ready for a fun fact? Yes.

Yeah. Okay. So Bitcoin is worth 13 times what it was two years ago. Dak Prescott is making 35 times what he was two years ago. Not bad. A financial glow-up for Dad. I love it. I love it.

Just in 2018, he was making like $630,000. And now this year in 2020, he will make $75 million. That's like $75, you know, 75 times whatever more money it is. And then two years ago, even though the Cowboys gave him a little bump, he's making like $2 million. Now with the signing bonus and everything, again, $75 million cash flow this year. Holy shit. And he's like the 10th best quarterback in the league. Yeah.

I don't know. He's like tough set. So he has he has the diamond hands for real, right? Like this guy, this guy bet on himself for years. He refused to budge. He broke his fucking ankle. Like that thing was disgusting. By the way, do you remember when it happened where you, I don't know if you're watching

the show, but Tony Romo was like, oh man, it looks like a cramp. He was like grabbing his calf. And then all of a sudden you could like see that his foot was like pointing in the wrong direction. And it was like, oh, shit. I didn't understand why everyone was upset. I was like, his shoe came off. What's the big deal? It's like, oh, his whole foot came off.

But Diamond Hands DAC is really good. I'm not making fun of him. I just want to, I want to point out that. I am very happy that he bet on himself, went through the injury, got through the injury, and still got the bag. Diamond Hands press cut. Yeah, we're all happy this is over for many reasons. I was sick of it.

So we're going to get into free. agency in a little bit. It's fun. We're going to do a little swipe left, swipe right on free agents, and maybe some horroxcopes. It'll be a good time. But I want to stick with the DAC thing for right now and what Craig mentioned. Do you guys like still care when a quarterback gets paid a lot of money or is it just kind of like old news at this point? I'm a bit desensitized to it, I think. D.K., what do you think? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's like you, I feel like twice a year, someone becomes the highest paid quarterback of all time. And then everyone freaks out about it for two months and then the next guy gets paid. This is.

is just the state of the quarterback position forever. The rising cap, the cap is going down this year slightly, but the rising cap and revenues and everything, people are realizing more and more how difficult is to play quarterback. I mean, I guess that's not new, but there's like 12 guys who are good at in the world. So these guys are going to get paid a lot. I think that's just supply and demand. It's basic economics, folks. But, yeah, I mean, it doesn't bother me anymore.

The salary cap is also sort of so malleable, I guess. that it doesn't bug me. He's like, oh, he's got X amount of the salary cap eating up every year. But,

Dak Prescott, I mean, his cap in the first year is not that bad. I think it's like $22 million or something like that. Yeah, it actually went down from last year.

Last year was 31. It went down. Yeah. Yeah, right. And teams can do that where they like backload contracts because the salary is going to go up, the salary cap will go up

in the next few years. So you back fill his contract so it's more money in the later years. Yeah. So it doesn't bug me. So for the actual cowboys, you had to keep DAC. I think in large part you had to keep him.

But what do you guys think about this team, especially this offense? Because now you've got Amari Cooper and they signed him. You've got C.D. Lamb. You've got Michael Gallup. They were on pace to be in. Right. I just forgot about Sikh. Classic.

How dare you? They were on pace. I think Dak was on pace to break Peyton Manning single season passing yardage record by like a lot. Yeah. And he, DAC also had the most, or second most fantasy points per game ever last season. I mean, it's four and a half games, so whatever. So what do you guys make of Dak for next? season, both real life and in fantasy.

Well, if you want to start to talk about fantasy first, because this is a fantasy pod, I think they become fantasy football team number one. Fantasy team royalty? Yeah. Yeah, I think they have the fantasy belt. I think I'd rather have all of the Cowboys than all of the Chiefs. As long as their defense remains bad, too, I think absolutely. So going back to last year, it's almost like you kind of forget how good he was for a little

while. Number one, he reunites with Kellynne Moore, who seems to have a perfect grasp of how to you that offense, how to get the most of that offense. Like Kifeitz said, no QB last year averaged more points per game than DACT did, and that includes the game in which he broke his leg. If you actually take out that broken leg game,

so weeks one through four, he was averaging 31.3 points per game, number one in the NFL. He had passing yards of 450, 472, and 50, 202 yards in weeks two to five. You said a career high three weeks in a row. He had like 1500, fucking yards.

in three weeks. A lot of guys have that in a year, or in the old days they would. So anyways, this is a great situation for him. Obviously, they're stacked. I think it's ideal for everyone involved. It's ideal for Amari. It's ideal for CD Lamb. And I think it's also ideal for for deck, sorry. And I also think it's ideal for Zeke Elliott, too, because, you know, their ability to pass, spread things out. It's just going to open things up for him. He's not going to have to be, you know, the guy that they handed to 30 times a game and hope he can like break through the line or whatever, you know, he can contribute in the passing game, all that stuff. So, um, actually, I jotted this down through four games last year. Amari Cooper was the wide receiver one in PPR.

I think people forget that. Um, and C.D. Lamb, as a rookie was the wide receiver 16. So a high end wide receiver two through four games. This is obviously a small sample. Something happened to Amari Cooper. Amari Cooper. Amari Cooper got gross in fantasy. Why? Why did he get gross? Back Prescott broke his ankles. What? No, there's something else. I feel like, even before that, I He's not in the sexy category anymore of like receivers. I think it's hard to break narratives. It's because we never know when he's healthy. I mean, before he was up and down and he had these like 200-yard games and then he'd go away.

And there were like issues with him in the Raiders. But then it's also like he played, like time has lost all meaning to me. I don't remember for his 2019 or 2020 when he played with like planter fasciitis, which is like this really painful foot injury that he didn't really talk about and went under the radar. But like receiver, foot injury. My mom has that. It's not great. Yeah, my dad got it.

There you go. Mama Kelly has it. She does not like it. Yeah. She has trouble running posts now? Yeah. You know, Eli Manning used to run a 4-340 and then he got Planner fasciitis and then he was just Eli Manning. But no, it's like you don't hear him.

He doesn't bitch. But he hasn't been healthy. So I think that because of his earlier inconsistency from his career, we just think, oh, Amari, but we forget that he's not actually himself. You know what this Dak Prescott signing has made me think. and it's a positive thing around the league. Honestly, sports in general, Kevin Durant is another thing.

Unless it's really bad, I think we're finally past the, like, injuries affect your career era. Like, DAC had the most gruesome injury you could ever see visually. And Cowboys didn't care. We don't care. He'll probably be the second fantasy quarterback

taken off the board. Like, it just doesn't matter anymore. Durant Torres-A-Keele. That's a really good point. He's fine. Like, I think we are... I love that these players, it sounds weird,

but, like, I love that they can get hurt. but and come back like nothing's changed and this is like really to me the first time that's ever been cemented in my brain that's a good point because Durant I mean Achilles is the worst basketball injury and then no one was no one's surprised

that Durant is the best basketball player and then this DAC thing you know what you're not hearing will DAC be the same player it's just not really part of the conversation and maybe we're underrating it to be honest but it's fantastic what do you think DK yeah I think it's great I think it's on a serious note it's like it shows the advances

that we've made as a as a species a society in medical advancements and stuff. Like, these guys can go to Europe and get, I don't even know what it is, like red blood cell treatments or something. Go to Germany. I don't even know what they are. It's like some sort of- You don't have to go to Germany to get that, but yeah.

All I know is I remember players going to Europe and the off-season and coming back, like, looking like Captain America. So, you know, it's one of those things where, you know, as medical treatments improve, like these injuries are just going to be less and less, not important, but they're not going to basically derail careers like they used to, hopefully. I mean, look, Kevin Durant is the perfect example. If there's one body type that looks like it shouldn't be able to sustain an

Achilles injury, it's Kevin Durant. He's like one, he's like a giant rubber band. A giant Achilles tendon. His Achilles is like two feet long. He looks the same is incredible. You look better. It's so true. They had to take Achilles from four cadavers to get in. Tie him together.

The one Jesus The one thing I do want to throw cold water on here Is there is certainly a chance That the DAC injury like we're all Part of the reason here is just the inside baseball And like the media aspect of this is You know what like the least fun thing

Or the worst content is Is like will this player be the same after the injury No one wants to read that You know what no one wants to hear about DAC thing It's like well you might not be the same Because you can't prove it It's kind of a downer And like there's no upside

It's like oh you were right That a football player got hurt That sucks So you think there's like media injury talk fatigue? No one wants to talk about it. No one wants to, no one wants to be the person wondering if DAC will be the same. It's not fun.

It's not illuminating. It's just it's not what you want to talk about. But if DAC isn't very good, a few weeks into the season, people will be like, well, he broke the ankle. He's coming back from it, you know, whatever. But no one's saying that now. It's kind of like Tua. Where no one's talking about Tua. Well, he did have this like borderline career threatening hip injury like eight months ago.

And then he gets bench for Ryan Fitzpatrick and everyone. like, why aren't you good, rookie who had this hip injury? It's very difficult to talk about injuries with any kind of nuance, especially in the offseason. Is there any chance? I'm just going to toss this out. If you don't like it, just send it right on back. Is there any chance that Dak getting hurt kind of helped the way we think about him as a player? Because he had such an insane first three or four games that would not have sustained.

He could have played much worse later on. And now we're like, he was on face to big Peyton Manning's passing record. Like, it's all everybody says. I'll answer your question with another question. What would we be viewing Russell Wilson as if we'd only talked about the first eight games of last year? Oh, yes. If Russell had that seasonating injury in October? If he tore his ACL in week eight, we'd probably be speaking higher of him.

Be like he's the fucking QB1 in Dynasty or whatever. What's the Jay-Z line of like, would you rather be underpaid or overrated? Talking about just like, you want to go out on top or like you want to just, you know? I'm not saying that's the case with Dak. That's a take shop. I'm just working to take. Right, right, right. I mean, he's been good other than this season.

But yes, that's true. Okay. So, yeah, that cut paid. You guys want to go free agency? Yeah, why don't you run down what we're going to kind of do here? Yeah, because I also would like to know exactly what this game is because I'm still a little foggy on it. Oh, yeah. So we're going to do a little swipe left, swipe right.

Which is something, D.K., you've never been on a dating app. Yeah, that's correct. Different, yeah, I did not get the opportunity to do that. Bumble or what are some of the, what are some of the dating? apps. There's Bumble. There's Tinder. Should the NFL one be called fumble? That's actually pretty good.

That's pretty good. Yeah, so we're going to play a little fumble here. So we're basically made a little profile, a little, little dating profile for each of like our favorite free agents. For teams looking for free agents, right? Yeah. Like, you know, it's like if the teams are swiping, basically. We're going to be like GM swiping for free agents. Okay, got you.

Yeah. You'll get the hang of it. It's really easy. Got it. We're just making free agency dating profiles. It's very simple. Exactly. We took the market value from SpotTrack,

which is this contract tracking company, and they have the, like a suggested market value. And so we're going to either swipe left or swipe right on the player at that value. But we're going to get into, you know, it's not just about who they are as a player. It's who they are as a person.

It's a holistic view. So, Craig, you want to go first here? Yeah. So, yeah, we each brought like three guys at the table. So our top kind of nine most eligible free agents on the market. Unfortunately, my first one was Alan Robinson, who got franchise tagged by the Chicago Bears. And I'm going to run through his profile anyway, and we can talk about him.

Yeah. Because I love him so much, and he deserves a conversation still. Alan Robinson, oh, look at his profile. He's 27 years old, 6-3, 220, born in Detroit, Michigan. I didn't know he was from Detroit. That's cool. 220 miles from your location. Pros.

Here are some pros, Alan Robinson. Maybe the best fucking wide receiver in the NFL. Who knows? We'll never know. He's always been the lone bright spot and his shitty offense. He's essentially the hot girl in the ugly group, and he's been that for every single year of his career. He was born in late August. He's a Virgo. Let me talk to you about Virgo. Okay. Virgo's characteristics here. Hardworking. Vergoes know that hard work pays off. They are creative, reliable, and patient. You'll be hard pressed to find somebody more responsible and reliable than a Virgo. Listen, I'm not into this astrology thing, but this is Alan Robinson. He is patient. He is reliable. He works hard,

and he doesn't really bitch. And no pun intended, but he's a catch. Alan Robinson is a catch. God damn it, man. I fucking hate you. He's an absolute catch. He deserves so much more. So the pros can go on and on and on. The cons for Alan Robinson. He's never found Mr. Wright. You know, is it him? Is it them? I mean, he spent four years with that guy, Blake. And we were all like, God, this freaking Bortle's guy. You got to get out of here. He's entering the ladder. Why is this guy still single?

Yeah. Why are you wasting your prime with this? Like, it's going nowhere. He's entering his late 20s. He's stuck in this merry-go-round with these same partners over and over. He knows it's not right. We know it's not right. He's like Meg Ryan at the start of Sleeplies in Seattle.

Dayton Walter. And we're like, listen, you're doing fine with Walter. You had 100 catches last year, but you could do better. You do so much better. This might sound like a person that hasn't watched The Bachelor for several years, which is absolutely true. But is there a little bit of like the bachelor going on here where on the surface he looks like such a great, you know,

like prospect or potential date or whatever. But ultimately he's batshit crazy and no one wants to be with him. He's just in it for the numbers or the fame. You're saying that this is potentially Alan Robinson? Yeah. No, I'm asking. I'm not saying.

No, that is not Adam Robinson. Okay, okay. Here's the one thing I'll say about Alan is he did get the chance to like go to, a free agency and he chose to play with Mitchell Chubisky. He wanted the money. That hasn't helped his plans. But yeah, it's really annoying.

So anyway, so the Bears franchise tagged him. I'm not even convinced that means that he'll stay with the Bears. I think that the Bears at the minimum could also trade him somewhere else. So there's some hope here. But he's probably going to come back to the Bears and we'll once again play with Dick Foles or whoever the hell of bears get. So yeah, upsetting. Russell Wilson there, maybe?

We'll see. Other than Chicago, is there like one team, Craig, you want to see Alan Robinson on? And you can't say the Chiefs. That's the new rule with this game. he actually spoke recently about he wanted to go to a place with like a better nightlife and like a bigger city

which is surprising because he's in Chicago but he wanted to kick it up a notch I'd like him to go to the Jets I know that Sam Darnold's not Peyton Manning but I think he's better than Trubisky and I think with their new offense

with the floor and with Sala Robinson could have been like their centerpiece offensively in New York and that's what I wanted for him I think he still could play with Donald I actually think Donald is the best option that Bears have a quarterback just they have the 20th pick in the draft

in like the 53rd in the second round, I think you could flip maybe even the second rounder for Donald. Yeah, that'd be interesting. Let's keep rolling here. DK, free agent profile. Do you know how to do this? So you open the app.

I feel like I'm explaining to my grandma. It's like Emma and I'm like, so you open your phone. Quick question. Before we get to the end, swiping right is good, right? Like you like that. Yeah, you just want to swipe right on someone you like. Left is like, no thanks.

All right. So I got Kenny Goliday, who thankfully after we've done the planning for this podcast, did not get franchise tagged. Kenny Galladay, good guy. Six foot four, 214 pounds. He is born on November 3rd,

1993, which is kind of bizarre to think about, since I was born in 19. I'm not even going to say it. Earlier. 30. A couple interesting facts about Kenny Gallaudet,

which I think would be in his Bumble or Tinder bio. Same birthday as Charles, Charles Bronson. Same birthday as Kendall Jenner, which is probably more his generation. He's a Scorpio. Scorpio traits, fierce, intense, ambitious, loyal.

I think that fits Kenny Golade really well. And I thought this was funny and has nothing to do with anything. But the number one song in the U.S. On the day that Kenny Goliday was born was I would do anything for love, but I won't do that by Meatloaf. So I want to be clear, I like these facts, but you would not put these in your bio. No one's like, you know, I was born on the same day,

the Meatloaf song came out, you know, the meatloaf. swipe right that's that but i was trying to find some interesting facts about kentie galaday and i went on a went on a little bit of an internet hole there so let's see here market value all right so according to spot track 17 million per year the franchise tag which he did not get would have been 16 million a year per adam schifter galaday turned down in 18 and 19 per 18 19 million dollar per year deal last year so i think he's looking for more than 17 million i think his his true value probably is higher like 20. So let's call it 19 since this said 19 million dollars. So you swiping right or swiping left and getting Gulladay. And swiping right is the good one. So I'm swiping, yeah, I'm swiping right. I love Goladay.

I think you guys might have a different opinion on this, but I think he's really, really good. Here's some pros. He's very large. He's a big, he's a big receiver can go up and get the ball. He has a massive chip on his shoulder, which I always like, small school guy. He started at North Dakota, went to Northern Illinois, ended up as a third rounder. And then, you know, within like a couple of years had emerged as like a top receiver in there. I wouldn't say he's like top five, but he's in the top 15 or so, top 10. He's a contested catch monster. Second most contested catches since 2018, according to pro football focus.

Guess who's number first? Guess who's number first? Guess who's number first? Alan Robinson, who we just talked about. Kenny Gallaudet, deep ball monster. 628 yards on deep balls last year. That's 20 plus yards down field. That was second in the NFL.

or sorry, that was in 2019. 2020, he was injured for much of the year, so his numbers did not look great. But overall, like when he's healthy, very good deep ball guy, very good contest to catch monster. His name is really cool. As a Danny,

I'm giving him the plus because he goes by Kenny as an adult. And also his last name reminds me of Doc Holliday, who's like an all-time character in history and in the movies. Wow. I can go through a few cons. I don't want to just be all-glowing review of Kenny Goliday.

Here's a few cons. He's coming off on injury short in season, so that's not great. He's old as dirt. Considering he's going into his first free agency,

he's already almost 28 years old. He'll be 28 in November. He's the same age as Keenan Allen, who's been in the NFL since like 2013 or whatever. He's old as hell, relatively. Marvin Jones might just be a better

arbitrage signing for far less. Jones is about turn 31 and has a similar skill set. And this is a real concern, not sort of just tongue and cheek. He's not a big separation guy. He did benefit from playing with Stafford, who is aggressive, willing to throw into tight traffic.

If he ends up, if Galdade ends up and takes the money for somewhere where he has a quarterback that's not a quote, who is a quote, see it throw a quarterback, so doesn't throw with anticipation, he's never going to get throw. He's never going to get the ball. So he needs to go with a quarterback

that's willing to throw it into tight coverage, let him win at the catch point. So I do think he has some landing spot sensitivity that makes it a little iffy. Ultimately, I'm swiping right, though. I think I'm also a swipe right, too. I think that I'm going to cop out a little bit and say there's the caveat of the medical thing because he missed all but, what is it, three or four games with a hip injury last year. I think that you want to do the medical evaluation is very important with this one because

I think there's kind of two scenarios. That hip injury was very serious and he needed to miss the time. I think that based on some of his Instagram activity, I think there's also a chance. that it was like he could have played he could have not and he's like I'm not going to risk re-injury for Matt fucking Patricia right and he just kind of like waded out the rest of the year which I don't blame him risk it for Dan Campbell though yeah he won't stand gamble is biting kneecaps or whatever but I think that if basically the medical says his hip is not a big deal I think it's a swipe right because looking at some of the other

receivers we're going to get to like I think that you'd rather pay 19 million a year for Kenny Gala day than maybe $16 million, $50 million a year for some of the other guys that are available. I think that it's honestly not the different from a fantasy draft where the three or four extra dollars, go get a good player. Yeah. What do you think, Craig? Swipe right or swipe left? Swipe and left?

Yeah, I just think it's a little rich for my blood. 17 million. He's been hurt a lot. I don't know if these deep threat guys age well. If he's on a team with the bad quarterback, I could just see him having kind of a shitty year. Yeah. I'm interested.

I saw an article, Haifitz on PFF, saying that they expect Kennedy Gallaudi to go to the Giants. How would you feel about that? Oh, my God. Well, we already got Golden Tate, so we're just getting all the Lions receivers after they're good. So, yeah. No, I wouldn't.

The Giants need a number one, but I don't want that. So now maybe I'm a swipe left. If I don't want them on the Giants. I don't want Daniel Jones. I don't want any of the Giants this year generally. So Hyvitz was a swipe right, and then he went to his friends and was like, hey, look at his profile.

And we're like, I don't know, man. I just don't know if this is here. I can change my mind. I like him for the Packers. The Packers have been looking for a number two, you know, next to Devante Adams for a long time. Aaron Rogers throws the anticipation. He's not afraid to cut it loose.

I think their offense is well suited for Goliday because it's like a play action, throw the ball down the field type offense. So I think he'd be really well suited for that. And then if that doesn't work out, I'd love to see him end up wherever Sean Watson ends up because give him a go-to guy. Maybe that's the Jets.

Maybe we see him with the Jets. We'll see. I think you're right about that, D.K., in the sense that I don't think he's like Alan Robinson where I think that he would excel with a great quarterback, but I think with a bad quarterback, he wouldn't put up great numbers. And unlike Alan Robinson, where he can just like exist

with a fucking doorknob as a quarterback, like that. That's a good, yeah, that's a very good delineation. I like that. You mentioned the Packers, D.K., that kind of makes me curious because the player that they did not franchise tag was Aaron Jones. Craig, you made a profile for Aaron Jones.

You want to talk up AJ? Sure, I love AJ. He's 26 years old. 5-9, 207 pounds. Born in Savannah, Georgia. Some birthday facts. He's a Sagittarius, which is optimistic.

Lovers of freedom. Hilarious, fair-minded, honest and intellectual. Okay. That seems to fit. He's smart back. He's got good vision. Right.

His market value is 14.6 million, according to Spotrack. Is it Spotrack or Spot Track? I thought it's SpotTrack. I don't know. I never knew. Spot track? I think it's Spottrack. We can get to the bottom of this.

Here are my pros for Aaron Jones He's really fucking good Put that at the top of the list This is what he's writing on his profile He's really fucking good He has no serious injury history He has less wear and tear on his body I'd say because of the whole Green Bay

Running Back by Committee thing With Jamal Williams all this time He can run and catch He's like kind of the He's just kind of like a Christian McCaffrey Alvin Camarra type That's not in that range yet For some reason

People don't really consider him as one of them But the way he plays on the field they're very similar in how effective they are. He's a winner. He's always been on good teams. He's a great attitude. He's a good locker room guy. And he has great sunglasses on the sidelines. Gloo guy. Oh, he has great sunglasses. That's a good one.

He's cool. Yeah, he is cool. He's got good swag on the sideline. He's a very positive guy. I think people really enjoy being his teammate. Some cons for Aaron Jones. He is a running back. That is his position that he plays. Right, right.

And his first contract is up. And running backs, his first contract is up, usually not a hot commodity. Pariahs. Not many teams actually need a running back. And so, you know, when thinking of my dream destination

for him, you know, I can pick one that just sounds fun if I removed, you know, if I removed Ezekiel Elliott, sure, put him on the Cowboys. But there's like,

these are the teams I put together that could potentially actually use a running back and sign one. We have Atlanta, Miami, San Francisco, New England, the Jets,

Steelers, maybe the bucks, and we'll get to the books later. So I hate to say this, but I think I might be swiping left on Aaron Jones. after all this. So that's surprising to me because I think the dream destination I want to see Aaron Jones

is like probably somewhere with a really good smart quarterback that can take kind of the running pressure off from someone with a good offensive line. I don't know. The Green Bay Packers. Like I just kind of think that they should have kept them and I understand the market value

once 14 million. But they could have franchise tagged him for like 8, 9 million. I do think that's the difference. I think he's a swipe left around 15 million. I think he's a swipe right at an 8. It's like he's not just a running back. And that's the thing with the whole running back value thing.

Running backs are like centers in basketball. It's like, you know how Roy Hibbert was like the future of NBA and defense and everything in like 2013? And then by 2016, he could not start. And it's like because the center of the court used to be valuable and then it changed to the edges with three points. Football's the same way. It used to be the middle valued and want to control the trenches. You want to run the ball. And now it's more about passing.

So just like centers now still have value if they're like in Bid and you can shoot threes or you're Yokic and you can pass. running backs still have value if you have auxiliary skills. If you, auxiliary and silary, I don't know if I use the word right, but Aaron Jones can catch, like just like Alvin Camara can catch, you can run routes, you can do many things. Also, they're really good running backs. Aaron Jones is in that half dozen group of guys. He's not quite as good as McCaffrey, but he brings like 85% of it to the table. And that's enough to me to pay the guy $8 million.

It's like if you have a two down back, you can't really catch, whatever. You dime a dozen. You can get a rookie in the fifth round to do that. I don't think you're finding Aaron Jones in the draft. and you don't want to have to spend his first or second rounder on it to do it anyway. I'm a swipe right. I think they should have kept him. Yeah, but they spent a second rounder on freaking A.J. Dillon last year.

Well, that's the thing. They made, what I'm surprised about is they made this decision last year. They can say whatever they want to say. The reality is when you spend the second rounder on A. A.J. Dillon, you're saying he's gone a year in advance. The crazy thing is that A. A.D. Dillon has rocks for hands. I like A.E. Dillon.

I have him in Dynasty. But really, just because of the second round pick, I don't think A. A.D. D.L.N. brings enough to maybe he learns the catch. I don't know. I think the Rocks for Hands thing, I think that's overplayed. We'll see.

He had a couple of really nice catches this last year and when he got in and had opportunities, but. You say you're a swipe right on him at $8 million or the Packers, but like that's not, isn't the conversation? Not in the cards. It's swipe right or left on 14.6.

Fair. I'm just saying the Packers made a mistake to not, because the Packers could have got him way depressed to market value because the running back one dip. And he's great, but like I don't know if he's worth four million or four years for 68 million. I mean, look at the top four teams in the league last year.

Somewhere on 15 it changes. It was Chiefs, Bill's, Packers, and Bucks last year. How many of those teams had a running back on their second contract? It was zero. Yeah. No, you're not wrong about that. So, well, all right. So I'm a swipe right.

You're a swipe left. DK. Let's swipe right at $8 million or swipe left. I would swipe right at $8 million, but no, I'm a swipe left. Just print that as a principle. No, I'm saying in reality when after he's not been franchise tag, I'm swiping left because it's just in principle. I don't think running backs move the needle enough in terms of your ability to win football games. Can I give a dream destination for him?

I think if he went to Pittsburgh, that would be pretty fun. Oh, that would be absolutely fun. If they actually, if they rebuilt their offensive line, I mean, they're not going to have any money. I actually think that that wouldn't work because the reason the Steelers can't run, is half because their outline is bad now. And it's half because Rafflesberger just does everything in shotgun. And I'm not convinced Aaron Jones

is going to be as effective. I mean, what they do, like 80 or 90% of their stamps from shotgun? Aaron Rogers was under center way more than that. So I'm not even convinced that would work. I don't know. Also, go to Pittsburgh, Aaron. Actually, no, Pittsburgh, please sign Bud Dupree.

That's what I want. Well, that's too late. Speaking of Pittsburgh, though, my guy for this is Juju. I think it's fun because I think that in real life there's probably no one more likely to actually be on these apps than Juju. They'd be really funny if you're just in the Pittsburgh area.

Juju might currently be designing Fumble, the app. Yeah, Fumble, yeah, Juju's an investor. He's extremely online. So, Juj is 24. I think that's an amazing. The fact he's a free agent of 24, because he came in a league of 21. So that's, he's 6'1. It's 215 pounds. He's from Long Beach, California. Shout out Snoop.

He is a Sagittarius. He is a Sagittarius. So that means sensitivity, willpower, willpower, nurturing nature. Sagittarius is always looking out for your friends and family, which explains where you're so in tune with their needs. I think that makes sense. Juju is very in tune. He's a lot of time on social media.

So the market value from him is $16 million annually. I'm a swipe left on Juju at $16 million annually. Explain. Explain. So first of all, I have to shout out my friend Justine, who pointed out to me. She's a huge Steelers fan. Follows Juju.

Juju has been posting about the Steelers for six months, like someone who's in a relationship that they know they're going to get dumped and there's nothing we can do about it. Juju's been posting like pictures on his Instagram story like the skyline of Pittsburgh with the caption, I don't want to leave. He's like the right tackle for the Steelers posted something about a contract extension and Juju commented crying face, I wish I could get one. And then now he's just in the face of like the motivational Instagram posts of just like,

he's like getting dumped by the Steelers and he doesn't not handle it. The Steelers are going off to college and he's stuck in his hometown. Yeah. you know, try to keep it alive, but it's just destined to fail, you know. Steelers are going to go off to college and, you know, find someone. Yeah, they said, I love you at 16, and they thought that was what it,

they thought that meant everything in the world. Yeah, it's tough. And then for actual football analysis, you could argue that Juju is underrated here because he was unbelievable at an intensely young age. I mean, he was fifth in the NFL in receiving arts at 22 years old. Generally speaking, that's a really good indicator of skill

and that I don't think it's hard to see a world where Ben Rothesberger's arm declined the whole offense kind of comes apart as a result and that Juju hasn't been able to be himself as a result. However, I can't get over. He did all his production when Antonio Brown was like at his peak basically or Antonio Brown was, I mean, for all the offices,

his on-field performance is like Mount Rushmore Mount Wide receiver and that within the shadow of that attention, Juju thrived. And the second Antonio Brown left, he wasn't very good. Juju's primarily in the slot. The one opportunity got to replace Antonio Brown on the outside, he kind of got hurt, didn't do anything with it.

$16 million a year is a lot for a player who's just kind of in the slot, especially when he was just grossly outperformed by Deontay Johnson and Chase Claypool last year. You'd have to be $16 million a year to a guy who was the third best on his team at his own position and just hasn't really been able to be scheme versatile. And is also the TikTok stuff, which I know shouldn't be a thing. but like to 60 or 70 year old football coaches who this is all they do for living it is weird that he does tug of war with lions

and like goes on YouTube and does these dances that does matter when you're going to give someone 16 million yeah snap face don't spend so much time on the snap talk that does matter when they're giving someone $16 million a year and there's like two or three other questions I do think it's a swipe left I swipe left too I think he's golden Tate

no he was a little more size yeah yeah he's like a bigger golden The irony to me is that the TikTok stuff, whatever implies he's quote unquote soft. I think that's like the stereotype. He's a really tough receiver. Like he's a tough guy. But he also posts the videos where he's getting punched in the freaking core. And it's like, it's kind of weird.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find a situation better than the one Juju had when he went off. I mean, he had Ben, who was still relatively in his prime. He was literally going against single coverage every time because of Antonio Brown. The offense was humming 16 million's a lot. Yeah, I'm in the same bow. dream destination so personality wise i think that juju is like levy on bell before him one of those things where everyone joked about him going to the jets and then he does except i don't think they'll actually do it because joe douglas is running the team i think that washington's intriguing as like him

maybe in the slot in washington they have they have capspace really and then terry mclorin and juju maybe or miami but honestly i don't know i don't really know where juju fits to be honest i think i think pairing him with a guy like mclorin is smart high fits i like i think he'll be better if he as somebody on the opposite side to kind of demand a little bit more coverage. But at the end of the day, I don't think he's the number one. I think it's a lot to pay for a guy who's not a number one. All right.

Let's keep rolling here. The other person here, I think this is a controversial. We got Will Fuller. Hell of a profile. Okay. So Will Fuller. He's 26 years old. Six feet even. 184 pounds.

A little asterisk on that. Who knows? We're in April 16th. Don't know. Ninety-four. So he's an Ares sign. Okay. So Ares.

Your optimism. and generosity are amongst your most defining qualities. You are definitely a people person, which is assisted by your ability to see the best in everyone you meet. It's assisted by something, that's for sure. I think that maybe this is why he maybe ended up with those substances that were in his body that shouldn't have been because he trusted his doctor.

And you know what? He sees the best in everyone he meets. So how is he supposed to know? He's too trusting. And I think that this is the real value in will as a guy, because you know what, he's trying to take care of himself now. So the market value in his $17 million on Spottrecht. That one's incorrect, because here's the thing.

That kind of number they're coming up with does not account for the PED suspension combined with the absurd amount of injuries he's had. I'm just going to, I'm just going to concede this and say it's actually like $14 million a year because I don't think he's getting $17 million a year considering his history. And I'm going to swipe right on Will Fuller, which is crazy because part of me knows that this is like a toxic relationship and that the odds are that he's like the most classic bad free agent signing like it's just such an obvious thing in retrospect that doesn't work out however i'm intoxicated by austin gala pro football focus has this great stat on here is deshawn watson's total expected

points added with will fuller and without will fuller so basically in the last four seasons Deshawn had the same amount of dropbacks with and without Will Fuller. It's basically 1,200 dropbacks. And the plays without Will Fuller, he basically expected to add like 79 points. And the plays with Will Fuller, he's expected to add like 267 points.

So like casually like three and a half times the amount is better. Like the Texas offense was three and a half times his potent when Will Fuller's on the field. That is absurd. And for all the stuff about his injuries and obviously the PEDs now, and it's a huge issue

and he can't stay healthy. He is the most game-changing deep threats since Deshawn Jackson. And this was his best season last year. He set a career high and receiving yards and receptions and touchdowns and catches and catcher. Everything was the best that's ever been.

But obviously, it's the question of whether it can stay healthy. Am I crazy for swiping right and woolfowler? Is this obviously mistaken in the moment? I love it. I love it. I think I would do the same thing. And when you said it was crazy,

I was like, what? No way, because he's, number one, like you said, he's a field tilter. I actually think he, I think of him as sort of like a force multiplier, which is a bit of a military term, but basically it means like if you get a piece of technology or something, like say it's like laser guided bombs or something versus just throwing them out there. Where are we going? Jesus. Changes. I'm just explaining what a force multiplier is. He makes people around him better because the defense has to change the geometry of how they play on the field.

You know what I mean? Like they have to tilt a safety towards him. bit because he has that blazing speed so dangerous down the field um you're right i was getting a little off topic there but there's a laser you know i can tell you're a dad or his military books now i'm embracing who i am high fits i'm no longer ashamed of it i love it you're a laser guided missile for this podcast read a lot of like books on ancient rome and whatnot dads love that stuff so uh anyways yeah i i'm actually i'm swiping white too swiping right fuller at 14 million or galaidae at 17 Gallaudet.

Because, because of the, wow. See, that's, that's so interesting. See, I go Gallaudet because there's just

less questions. Galladies coming off of an injury, too. You know? Honestly, I think it's, part of my thing with Gallaudy

is I just kind of, you can't prove this. And again, it's dicey to talk about, but the reality is, I just don't know if that hip injury was as serious

as a season-ending hip injury sounds. Absolutely was not. I don't think. But like, what is that after? then you're just saying you think Galday is a much better player than Fuller. Fuller didn't get hurt last year.

Yeah, well, I'm not, when I say swipe right on Fuller, I'm not saying that like those injury questions are not a problem, because obviously the best ability, the best ability is availability, and Will Fuller hasn't been available till last year. So it's the question of, I'm not a freaking doctor here. I'm not a scientist. I don't know if his body can hold up without whatever substances he was taking. That's the risk, right?

I like that he took the substance. He went the extra mile. Yeah, he wants to win. He's a gamer. thing. So that's the Aries in him. God of war. You ain't trying. So you're a swipe left, Craig? I mean, I'm swiping right on Fuller, but I think I'm biased because I like him so much. I think if I knew Kenny Gallaudet's personality more, I would feel differently, but I just really like Will Fuller and I can't separate that. Here's the thing, though, I think that this is easy

for me to say in a podcast. If I was like writing $14 million of my own, I don't know where I would get $14 million from, but if I was to pay $14 million to Will Fuller every year, I think that I might change my mind. And I would just like obsess and look at all the games he's missed. And I think the reason why partially I've been swiping left on a lot of these players is because of, you know, Warren Sharp is on the NFL show today, Wednesday, and he just wrote this article a few days ago about basically all the best teams don't spend big in free agency. Doesn't make sense. They don't go big in the draft and they don't spend big in free agency. They spend smartly and they get guys on one-year contracts. And they don't go after the big, the big dogs and sign these

big flashy five-year, 80 million. They just don't do any of that. And so it's kind of turned me off, turned me off to the idea of like getting some flashy Kenny Galdae on my team for four years, 68 million because it's just not a prudent decision. Yeah, I think that's a good point. I mean, I think, so in the NBA, good, the best players go to free agency. LeBron, Kawhi, Kevin Durant, have all been free agents and like changed teams the last three years. In baseball, Trevor Bauer, raining side young winner, just changed teams. In football, it's like, is Kenny Goliday the best free agent? Maybe. And so by nature, the guys in football, because of the way the leagues are structured.

The guys you make it a free agency in football are guys that their teams decided that they saw them for four years in and out. We're like, we don't need this person. So it's often described as a minefield. And this is all that's like, it's like on Survivor. If they give you any type of food on day 20, you're going to be excited about it.

You know what I mean? It doesn't matter if it's a cold hamburger. Cold hamburger is fucking amazing on Day 20 and Survivor. Kenny Golty might be a cold hamburger. So, Dika, how, How should teams be approaching free agency? That was a real Mike Lombardi from me. I'm surprised you guys didn't come after me for that.

Michael Lombardi's like, listen, there's hot dogs and there's ketchup. And Cleveland's a hot dog and Nick Chubbs' ketchup. And you're like, what is he talking about? Hi, Fis, your question is how should teams approach free agency? Well, let me ask you this. I haven't read Warren's article yet. So is there, I don't know if he already accounted for this, but is there... The theme is the good teams don't spend.

Yeah, but are the good teams good because they already have a good roster and they're not needing to like spend a lot of money to bring in foundational players or is it more just they swing and they miss? There's just a lot of pitfalls and crazy. His point is intelligent aggressiveness. Aggressiveness like being aggressive to sign like the Andrew Norwell for however much 50, 60 million dollars you got or whatever is not necessarily a smart aggressiveness. The smart aggressiveness is the team who I mean, again, it didn't work out. but the Patriots getting Cam Newton for like $1 million is a smart, aggressive move because the upside was clearly there. He used the Eagles, like getting Chris Long for like one year, five million, like things like that. I think that's absolutely right.

It's always dangerous to be like, oh, we're one guy away from being a competitor because then that guy gets hurt in week four. And then it's like, okay, now what? So I definitely think that there's something to that. And, you know, buyer beware with Will Fuller. but at the same time, and I cringe at using this term, but how many guys in the NFL have more juice than Will Fuller? Sorry, he's not, he's juicing.

Poor choice of words. But, like, you know, he's just, he's explosive, man. So that's, I guess, the kind of what you have to wait. And he's proven it. Like, he's proven when he's been on the field and when he's been healthy, obviously I know that's a concern, but when he's proven it or when he's been out there, he's proven that he's a game-changing player.

So I guess that's just the question is teams are going to have to decide whether it's worth sinking that much of their cap into this guy, especially in a year where the cap is shrinking. So on that note, let's get to running backs, because running backs are like the most or the best example of this kind of, like, are they really worth this much money, especially in free agency when their previous teams, for whatever reason, decided to let them go.

And the teams that had them know more about them than anyone. So, all right, TK, you're the one here. Todd Gurley, who was it like a month ago when we were, I was like, Todd Gurley can play and you were like, he might be out of the league this year. Why did you guys stick me with Todd Gurley? This is funny. Because I thought it would be funny.

We'll talk about, so I'm going to go, so we'll talk about Todd Gurley. We should go off script a little bit and talk about Chris Carson too because he actually ended up not getting franchise tagged by the Seahog, so he's going to be a free agent. That's going to just be off the dome because I didn't actually prep for him. But let me start with Todd Gurley. 6 foot 1, 231 pounds. I mean, elite size for running back. He's 26 years old, which is crazy.

That's he. insane. That is insane. He's one day younger than me, August 3rd. I was born August 2nd, 94. Oh, really? Nice. So you're talking about his. And my knees might be better than his. So you're a Leo? Yeah, I'm a Leo.

Wow. Oh, yeah. Read us the Leo traits, D.K. Leo traits, action-oriented, warm, attention-seeking. Yeah. That describes two of the Leo's in this conversation. I went from producer to co-host, so that's attention-seeking, if anything. Just throw it out takes Just willy nilly Just out here like Did Dax injury make him like more valuable?

Attention seeking You're the heat seeking missile of attention I found this interesting Again, this is me Probably going too far down the rabbit hole And birthdays But on this date in 1492 Columbus set sail

From Paulo Spain For the Indies What a fucking idiot He thought he was going to the Indies I used to be the person Who brought random facts into the spot and now you're just like Todd Gurley was born 600 years after Columbus left. What is happening?

Is Todd Gurley good at football or what? I don't know what. I have absolutely no clue what that means. I'm a history buff. I like looking back on history. 1492 Columbusdale the Ocean Blue. I don't know where he was looking for, but he didn't end up where he wanted to be.

He was looking for a good free agent. He was looking for the West Indies, I assume, which is why he went that direction. But anyway, regardless, Spotrack, Spottrack has his market value at two years, 11 million, 5.5 per year, which I think is a tad high. I don't think, I think that any team that signs him for that is high because he essentially got benched more or less. He turned into a rotational back late in the season. His knees are just not holding up. He doesn't have the same burst that he used to have, the same, you know, explosiveness.

And so that's obviously worried. Now, there are some pros. He's a very good pass catcher, which I think can help any offense. He has an undeniable nose for the end zone. The dude just gets into the end zone for whatever reason. He knows how to do it. And he's a pro. He's been around the game.

He's 26 years old, but he feels like he's been playing since the 80s. Oh, my God. He's a pro is like the. he's nice of a dating profile or like what you're trying to say you're trying to say you're a pro, he's a veteran He's really, he's a great personality It means that there's things you aren't telling me

Let me put some context in that So the worry and I guess The concern about having a rookie go in And take his spot versus just paying Gurley to be a quote a pro Is you can't trust those guys to do Some of the little things that You know veteran players do like pass pro

Pass pro is very difficult It's not like super important on the hierarchy of needs. Yes. So let me give you a quick inside football or whatever example. So like in some cases the running back is charged with picking up the, you know, either fifth or six, like a blitzer, fifth or six guy. And number one, he has to see the guy come in. And number two, he has to react in time to like move, you know, inside the pocket, switch sides, you know, to pick that guy off, keep him from hitting the quarterback. He's protecting the quarterback, the most important guy on the field.

you know, there's that plus just doing your assignments in the passing game, doing your assignment, like picking the right hole. Like these are the things I'm talking about when I talk about. He's a pro. So it is absolutely a cliche, but at the same time, you know, like coaches are going to be like, I don't want to put this fucking green player out there and have him screw up and get our quarterback hit. You know what I mean? So you got to kind of keep that in mind. However, you know, again, like he has the knees of a 60-year-old former distance runner, like just bone on bone. And that's not any better. I don't think he's going to get any faster. I actually noticed this. I was reading through PFS

Top 200 list of free agents. He didn't make the top 200. That is unbelievable. That's aggressive. Unless my search function is broken. That's aggressive. That's just them trying to make a point. 200. I didn't even know there were 200 free. 200 free agents that was

Todd Gurley is like you're making it a point to not talk about Todd Gurley. All right. So, D.K., which way you swipe in? I'm swiping left. I'm saying no. I don't think it's worth it. Especially not if you're going to give him 5.5 million. That would be, in my opinion, a bad choice.

I can't believe they'll put him in the top 200. I'm going to double check that. Hold on. I'm checking. Maybe my search function was broken. He's definitely like that guy that fantasy players love to hate. Zero hits for really.

Brutal. That is tough. You want me to read some of the guys at the bottom of the list here? Actually, yeah, I do. Who's the 200th for agent on this list? Richard Rogers is. 205. Sorry, it's 205.

The tight end at the Eagles slide off the couch? He was playing pickup basketball in Philly and then he went and played you know, whatever. He actually looked fine. Let's go through here. Someone named Neville Hewitt, who I

will admit to not knowing much about. Neville? I've definitely heard that name before, right guys? Let's see here. James O'Shaughnessy, tight end? Oh yeah, he was on Jacksonville, right? Yeah, Mercedes-Luess. O'Shaq Kennedy.

Seat. Taze's Sharp. This is ridiculous. These are four-string tight ends. Mercedes-Lewis is 36. This is crazy. He's 10 years older than Todd Gurley. My God.

Jacob Pollister, number is 179, which is hilarious. Okay, so anyways, PFF doesn't like Gurley. I'm swiping left. I agree with them. I don't think he's necessarily worse than the 250s. He's in my top 200. I'll put it that way. Yeah, yeah.

Still swipe left, though. But can we talk about Chris Carson real quick? We don't have to go through it quite as much, but I do think he is an interesting free agent. He was the Seuck starter for the last several years. He's another guy that has had some injuries, like history. You know, he's nothing like serious, but just banged up quite a bit. And I would say that is a worry going forward, that his physical playing style, the way he plays,

he's looking for contact, he's looking to blow guys up. That could be an issue for some teams. but I will say He's 26 years old He's 26 but he's relatively Like low amount of tread off the tires In terms of his usage I think he's actually a pretty interesting free agent

I don't know if the CX are going to bring him back So I think I don't know it depends on what you're going to ask The CX we're not willing to give him $8 million to franchise tag him I think he's probably in the same range maybe Like in the free agent market $7, $6,000 a year

Let me look up what he has on Spotrack Spot Track I got it right here. It's 7.4. Yeah. So that sounds right. So, bottom line, he is a good pass catcher.

He's a very physical runner. He can create on his own. I still strongly believe that you don't need to spend big at the running back position. But I do think that Chris Carson is one of the better running backs on the free agent market.

So I'm going to be very fascinated to see where he goes. And if a team is looking to have, you know, it's a cliche, but if they're looking to like establish an identity as like a smash mouth offense like he could be a good option for them and I would I would still swipe left just because I don't think you should you don't need to give running backs that much I hope he gets paid though I don't think a team should pay Chris Carson seven million dollars a year but I will say I think Chris Carson is snickly one of the most fun players to watch like he doesn't have name value he's not really like a big player even in fantasy he's not like a sexy player but he just wants to wreck dudes he's just trying really hard he's to try hard he jumps up over people for no reason. He just takes contact. He's one of those guys that will lower shoulder instead of running out of bounds, which is like my favorite kind of player. He's fun. He's athletic. I enjoy him, but he's had too much, to your point. The style leads to so many

injuries. He's not like a good investment, but he's absolutely, like, if the Giants signed Chris Carson to somehow, like, if Sequin got hurt and they had signed Chris Carson, I would have been over the moon instead of Devonty. Chris Carson is everything I wanted Leonard Fornett to be in the way he plays. Yes. Totally. That's actually a great point, yeah. I don't know. I like him a lot, though. I hope he lands somewhere good. But I'm a swipe left on Chris Carson, and I imagine it's $7 million all of you guys are too. Yeah. Okay. So speaking to Lenny Forns, Craig, hit up Lenny Forns. He's a free agent too. All right, yeah. Lenny Forns is on the market. He's 26 years old. He is six feet tall, which is

taller than I thought. 228 pounds. He's from New Orleans, Louisiana. He's a Capricorn. some facts about a capricorn. They are hardworking, ambitious, and responsible. That is Leonard Fournett. His market value is $8.1 million, which seems a bit inflated. Some pros for Lenny, in my opinion, he's young. He just turned 26. He's healthy, no real major injuries.

He's a Super Bowl champ. He's currently kind of peaking professionally and personally. You know, his online persona, he has a name. He has a nickname that is basically denotes how good he is at playing football in the playoffs, which like you can't get any better than that. He's kind of what Juju wants to be, but isn't, is kind of the way Leonard Fournett.

He's like not trying to be internet famous, but kind of is internet famous. Cons, though, for Lenny, he looks quite old. Probably looks 35. He looks as old as Mercedes-Louis. You can make the argument that he may not be the best running back on the bucks.

Ronald Jones is actually pretty good. And the dude just this doesn't have a, this is anti-letic. The guy just spends a lot of time in Florida. I mean, he's in Jackson Bell. He's in Tampa. I don't know where you're going to get Kevin Clark to weigh in on that. Yeah, we need Kevin Clark to weigh in on someone who spent their 20s in Florida and their teens. Yeah, this is entire 20s in Florida. So listen, I have a, I'm swiping right, but there's a caveat. I know that sounds surprising Leonard for another to 8 million. I think he 100% should get re-signed by the

bucks for like a one-year, $7 million deal just to play it out with Brady again. Just do it again. I think I would swipe right on one more year with the bucks. I would not swipe right on a four-year deal for him. Swiping right on one year. What do you guys think? That's bold, Craig. I'm going to swipe left. I don't necessarily think he has a skill set at this point that differentiates him enough to be paid that kind of money.

But I'm rooting for him. I think he's a fun story. And I would like to see him have success. He had one of the most successful playoffs for a running back. ever and you don't think he's got the skill set? I said, I don't think he has a skill set that would be different, that differentiates him enough to make it worthwhile. Like, he does have a good skill set, but it's not like,

he's not Christian McCaffrey. He's not Sequin, you know what I mean? And people wanted him to be, but he's just not. Yeah. So I'm a big fan of Capricorns, big fan. And I think Lenny has big Capricorn energy. That's why we're drawn to him. I think that, you know, obviously best Twitter header in the game with like literally

it's God creating Adam and the Sistine Chapel, but it's just Leonard Fournett and an LSU jersey. Like, huge fan of Lenny. But here's the thing. Capricorn also means being pretty like unattached and being like unemotional, like very just, you know, business about decisions. And business-wise, Lenny's not worth $7 million.

Like, he's just not good enough. This Bucks team, like they have to keep him. I get what you're saying, Craig, but they have to keep a lot of people. They're trying to keep Shaq Barrett. The franchise tag Chris Godwin, they got to keep everyone together. Lenny is literally the most expendable part of this team by far.

I just love Lenny to death, swipe left on Lenny. You're right. You're right. I'm hoping for a one year, three, four million dollar deal, and he just sticks with the bucks for the rest of Tom Brady's time. Lenny got cut from the Jaguars and then won a Super Bowl with Tom Brady. It is like he's already kind of had his gift. He's gotten what he needed to get. He's Lombardi Lenny, playoff Lennie, whatever the hell we're calling him. Craig, let me ask you this.

Who would you rather have James Connor or Lenny on the Pittsburgh Steelers? Lenny. I think I He fits the Steelers better. Also, James Connor is bad. Okay. Dick, it last one up here.

Yeah. Hunter Henry. We haven't talked about it very much. I feel like he's kind of, he started out his career very hot, like a big name. It's going to be the next kind of gronk type tight end, but he's had some injuries,

had some knee injuries. And so he's definitely followed off in his overall hype, I think. But he's going to hit free agency. The Chargers decided not to franchise tag him. So let's break it down. 6'5, 250 pounds. He was born on December 7th, 1994. He's aged 26 years old.

He's from Little Rock, Arkansas. Right now, Spottrack, right now, Spottrack has his APY, his market value at 10.9 million. For reference and for context, Kittle is at 15 million, Kelsey's at 14 million, and Austin Hooper,

is at 10.5 million. I think I would take him at that. 10.9? That kind of feels like a bargain to me. Let's break down the pros and cons. Former Mackey Award winner, so he was the best tight end in college football, dynamic athlete, big, strong and fast.

He's a red zone weapon. He has 21 touchdowns and 55 career games. Unfortunately, he tore his ACL in 2018. He's had multiple sort of lower body injuries. I think he also had a... This is not necessarily a knock on him, but he also had like a spleen or kidney injury, like lacerated is some internal organ,

which is always a worrisome thing. He has yet to play a full season in the NFL. So again, the injury situation is kind of worrisome. He had like a 14 game, 15 game season, but no full seasons yet. And I found this stat, or I found this little tidbit kind of funny.

He's a good athlete, but he's clearly a bad planner at the Combine. He skipped out of the most physical drills. By the way, he's like at his pro day, he ran really well. He's like a fast guy. But he did compete in the bench press at the NFL Combine, and he got a position worst 13 reps.

So the only thing he did at the combine was bench, and he was the worst at the position. So that was funny. That's a bed flag. Bad planning, man. Just don't do anything. You're going to be there. The other thing I was going to say is he and all his siblings have H-H-names.

His siblings are Hayden, Hudson, and Hope. How do you feel about that? Hunter Henry. I'm throwing that in the negative column. not a huge not a huge fan of that well there are families that do that i mean like the jenners they're all i know i know oh my god it's fine it's fine oh my god you never thought about that i never realized that till just now how did i not realize that i guess i knew it but like i never thought about it and then by the way i don't know if you guys know this do you know that george foreman you know

george foreman yeah the girl guy who used to fight or whatever all these kids are named have george somehow in their name yeah yeah that's that's that's what i was like does that imply I mean, if we're talking about this in terms of dating profiles, does that imply, like, your relationship, your marriage would have a lot of, like, orchestrating, like a Chris Jenner level. Like, it's not really your life. You're an extension of someone else's life. Perhaps. Yes.

Yes. I like that, by the way, I like that Craig goes, do you know who George Foreman is in high-fitts goes? Yeah, the grill guy. Yeah, the grill guy who used to fight, I don't know, box. The grill guy. That's the most millennial thing you've ever said. Yeah, I know. I'm being a doucheback.

I know George Forge. I've watched a couple of George Forbant fights. Okay. Fair enough. Okay, so Hunter Henry. Are you swiping right or left on Hunter? You're swiping right? I think I'm swiping right, yeah.

So what's your dream destination for Hunter Henry? How about this one? And I guess this is maybe not my dream destination, but the one I thought of first was the Colt. Don't you dare say it. Oh, God, tight end purgatory. Yeah, what the fuck, man? No, so let me lay it out.

The Colts, I think, have always featured tight ends heavily in their offense. It's always just been they have too many tight ends. If he's the only tight end there, that's good for him. Number two, Carson Wentz famously loves to target his tight end. Remember this guy? Zach Ertz, remember this guy? So that's another, those are the two things I thought of.

But my only worry with that, obviously, is that Wence is completely toast, and then that it turns out poorly. The other thing, the other team that I thought actually makes a lot of sense is put him on the Seahawks and let him kind of eat up the middle of the field. Russell Wilson needs more weapons. So I think that could be an interesting one too.

but I like the Wence thing just because Wence is like he absolutely just leaned on Ertz for years So out of all these guys Who has the best dating profile Who do we like the most? It was Alan Robinson

Before he got tagged It's Alan But you want what you can't have That's the thing with Alan I know It's honestly not a hot list I don't know We swip left on a lot of these guys

Which just goes to show How we feel about free agency I think that Yeah The most interesting one here I think is Will Fuller and I think it's dangerous, but that kind of makes me like it even more.

It's actually probably the dumbest move, but it's terrible. I can't get them out of my head. It's like when you see on someone's profile, it says their job is like creator or influencer, and you're like, hmm, that's not a good job, but like, maybe that. No, but like, oh my God.

It's like, it won't end well, but that's kind of exciting. So yeah, I'll go well fuller. What about you guys? This is a very elub. We're not going to, we're not going to like address it directly, but this is an illuminating conversation.

Yeah. Are you guys all into Will Fuller? Who are you guys picking? Yeah, I'm saying Will Fuller. So I was going to say Gallaudet, but then I actually did say I would take Fuller over Gallaudet, so I'm going Fuller.

Let's just all lean in on Will Fuller. We're full of Fuller. Okay, there we go. Will Fuller podcast. There we go. All right. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig.

Thank you, Will Fuller. Thank you, Lauren. Lord. Oh shit. I don't have any... You don't have a band, D.K.? Throw me a band name. No.

This is your job. Fleetwood Mac. No, don't give it to him. Oh, yeah, I'm not helping. That's Stevie Nix. Thank you, Stevie Nix. All right. See you guys on Wednesday.