The Ringer NFL Show - The 20 Weirdest Things That Happened in the 2020 NFL Season

Episode Date: July 8, 2021

We look back at some of the weirdest, most inexplicable moments, story lines, and stats from the 2020 NFL and fantasy season, and place them into four tiers. Tier 4: Odd quirks (3:31) Tier 3: Outlier Performances (11:36) Tier 2: What the Fuck Is Happening? (39:39) Tier 1: The Twilight Zone (54:05) Check out our top 150 half-PPR 2021 fantasy rankings here! Email us: [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's good, everybody? I'm John G. Stremski, host to New York, New York with JJ. The first podcast on The Ringer and Spotify dedicated to you, the New York sports fan. We've got episode three nights a week, plus bonus episodes whenever news breaks. So make sure you follow the show on Spotify. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Heifitz. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Krollbeck. You guys excited?

Yeah. Yes, Dad. We're excited. We are launching our 2020. Ringer Fantasy Football Draft Guide next week. It is going to be even better than last year. We're going to have 200 players. We have write-ups from the Ringer staff on all the players.

We have our rankings, and we can honestly say, and I mean this, it is the most beautiful designed fantasy draft guide in the entire industry. It works amazing on your phone. It is honestly just kind of, I get lost in its eyes. Like it's like an adorable puppy or a small child. I love the draft guide. I'm just thrilled. It's really exciting.

Yeah. Yeah. The rankings are just, it's just DK, high fits in my rankings combined. So everybody can really know this year. We will let everyone know who was higher on guys, who was lower on guys. We can assign blame. It's just us three. More culpability.

Actual accountability. Yeah. Culpability, yeah. All right. So we're going to have a lot of content coming to you guys on this feed, the draft guide, a lot coming all about the 2021 preview. But we kind of wanted to, before we move on, I feel like we're in this nice zone right now where the memories of 2020 are still fresh but no longer such traumatic maybe.

It's funny now. It's a little funnier now, some of the crazy shit that happened. So we got this amazing email from Katie. Shout out Katie. You can email us to Reefantasy Football at gmail.com. Katie. She said 2020 was obviously a weird and crazy year and I think it would be cool if you did an episode on some of the weirdest regular and fantasy things that happened last season.

one that we can point to in a couple of years to remind ourselves that Kendall Hinton actually scored fantasy points or that Tayson Hill broke some leagues by filling the tight end slot while playing quarterback. We were so anxious and in some ways forced to move on quickly and it would be nice to look back and laugh at the ridiculous end quote. Shout out Katie. What a great idea for an episode.

We're just going to do that. So we're just going to see we're just going to do that. Producer Katie. I'll demo you. Thank you for that. Katie. Ring her employee now Katie. We're going to hear the 20 weirdest things that happened in the 2020 NFL season. Like, here's some weird shit that happened. We're going to count down backers from 20 to 1. And

then now we can officially in tear. We have tears. Yeah, we have four tiers of things. And that's T-I-E-R not T-E-A-R. Tears. That's good. Wow. Because 2020 brought about some tears. Let's be honest. Yeah, there was some fucking tears. Fof a show.

So first up just, oh what, you didn't like the Fof-A show? No, no, that was fine. That was the tear. It was just, it was just referencing how there was tears last year. Yeah, it was a little, yeah. Remember last year when we, honorable mention, remember the episode

where we're like, how you do it? And someone was just like, bad. I'm not good. I am well. Yeah. I'm okay. Okay, anyway, the tier four is just like weird oddities and quirks.

Kind of just odd things. DK., want to take number 20? Yeah, so I want to actually go back before the season started all the way back to the spring when, I mean, honestly, COVID was just starting, or at least shutting things down. The NFL draft got shut down, at least from being a live event to a mostly online Zoom event. Roger Goodell hosting the NFL draft. And I feel like it was on day two.

I can't remember specifically. But there was at, there was some point where Goodell slowly devised. into like just leaning really, really far back in his chair. Like he just was like lounging. I think it was the end of, I think it was the end of round one.

And also, he was in a sweater. I don't even think he was in a suit. He changed in the middle of the trap. He just got way more comfortable. It's like he'd taken some edibles and halfway through the round. They started to, like, hit, you know.

And he was like, he's like, I'm not getting up for this one. Like, I'm just going to sit back in my chair. got like his legs like spread eagled at the camera like it was so fucking weird and awkward and we never got an explanation for it he looked like a he looked like your uncle is showing up for like christmas eve dinner yeah i'm like so much turkey i can't get out of this chair i don't like just let me just do it from here um he's like in the second round the jags taking no lineman whatever let's move on yeah so my theory which i'm i actually think this is exactly

what happened is at some point. Maybe it was because he was getting up and down. Maybe it was just whatever. Like, you'd throw out your back sometimes and it just happens. But I really believe genuinely that he threw out his back, his lower back seized up. Are you serious? Yeah, because... You think he threw out his back in the middle of the round, the first half? Yes, I do. Absolutely. So I've thrown out my back a couple times in my life. And he would, the way he was sitting where he like, couldn't like it was like he was like his back was stiff as a board like you can't bend like or it's excruciating pain if you'd like sit in certain like ways so the way he was sitting on the couch was exactly i swear to god people who have had their back thrown out i talked about this on

twitter at the time people were like yes this is exactly what happened the way he was sitting is like your back sees up he was having like lower back spasms and so i love dk diagnosing roger We never discussed this before. Like this is the Dr. Chow version of the Bringer fantasy football shows. He absolutely had back spasms. He's going to take three or four weeks to be fully mobile again. He took some, I'm guessing like somewhere in the middle around, he took some muscle relaxers. That was why he was like looking like he was high.

He's just feeling good at that point. Yeah, those M&Ms weren't M&Ms next to them. Exactly. So anyways, I just thought that was weird. Like that was the funniest thing that we. I just completely forgot about until I was like making this list. I was like, oh my God, remember when Cadill was just lounged. That's incredible.

I'd say another weird thing about that draft, you know, related to the draft is that the Packers drafted a quarterback. They drafted Jordan Love in the first round. And Rogers was pissed. He had a glass of tequila right after that. Went on Kyle Branch show, talked about it a little bit. And then won the fucking MVP in arguably one of the best seasons of quarterbacks ever had. It had 48 touchdowns and five picks.

I was thinking about this. Is Aaron Rogers the closest thing we have in football to Michael Jordan? Not in terms of, like, resume because Brady would be in terms of, like, rings. And I took that personally. In terms of mindset, yes. Oh, yeah, it's personally. Did you watch the match with him and Phil and Brady and Bryson? Because I saw a little bit.

Yes. Like, the way Rogers was putting, the combination of clutchness. Like, he was like a Hail Mary level putts. He just made everything. Mixed with, like, he did take everything Phil said personally. I really do think he's the closest thing we have to. MJ in football. The other weird thing from the draft,

remember how they kept referencing during the draft all the players dead family members? Yeah, that was tough. Just over and over and over again and it was like, that was also weird. Okay.

So anyways, none of that had real, well, I guess the Packers thing definitely had something to do with fantasy. Oh, it's still weird. We're doing the weirdest

shit that happened. Yeah, that's a good one. Some of it is not really fantasy related, but that's okay. It's a good one. 19.

Craig, you want to take 19? Yeah, Alex Smith came back from 693 days off in the NFL and returned only to immediately get sacked by the defensive player of the year, Aaron Donald. That was the collective, oh my God, that was, I went back and watched. It was not the first play.

I don't have kids, but I feel like that's the closest I've come to feeling like my child was getting hit in a football game. Totally. Yeah, he threw like, his first play was like a dump off to the running back, and then it was third and four, and Aaron Donald just destroyed the line and jump. on his back where his legs had to support him and Aaron Donald. He was fine. He had a terrible year at quarterback,

but he won't comeback player of the year. That's fine with me. But I think the weirdest, the most eerie thing about this is the Joe Thaisman, Alex Smith, comp. I don't know if you guys remember the weird little paragraph. I have it here. So Thysman broke his right tibia and fibula on November 18th, 1985 in a game in Washington that ended 23 to 21.

the only three-time defensive player of the year, Lawrence Taylor was involved to the injury, which occurred around the 40-yard line. Tyson's pro-left tackle, Joe Jacoby, wasn't on the field. Alex Smith broke his right tibia and fibula on November 18. What the hell? 2018 in a game in Washington that ended with the same score,

23-21. Also, the only three-time defensive player of the year, JJ Watt was involved in the injury, which occurred around the 40-yard line in Smith's pro-bow left tackle, Trent Williams, was not on the field. Same day, same score, same place. and then the only guys who have three times.

I guess Aaron Donald has one too now, but that's fucking It's unbelievable. Time is a flat circle. Last thing I just want to shout out for Alex Smith is he was 34th in QBR out of 35 people. The only person he was ahead of was Dwayne Haskins. So he did his job. He was better than Dwayne Haskins. There you go.

But they were still worse than everyone else. Okay, Deky, you want to take 18? All right, so on a little bit lighter note, I just, so again, I was like going back and researching some of the weirdest shit that happened last year and I had completely forgotten about this, but you guys remember Packers Colts, week 11, seven penalties in one minute of game time. It's like crunch time at the very end of the game. The Colts are leading 31 to 28 late in the fourth quarter. I'm going to just run through play by play here a little bit. Packers, off sides. Next play. Packers, 12 men on the field.

Next play. Colts, holding. Next play. Colts, holding. Packers. Declines it next play illegal motion Colts Packers declined that again the next two plays the Colts miraculously pick up first down after third 19 and then they went for it on fourth down picked up first down next play Colts holding next play incomplete pass next play Colts holding next play four yard run and then to top it all off this wasn't even actually a penalty but Rivers was sacked on the next play fumbled the ball has returned 71 yards for a touchdown, which probably would have been like the game winning thing for the backers, but the play was reversed on review.

And so it went to overtime. The Colts eventually won. But man, I remember just screaming at my television during this game, stop fucking doing penalties. You know what's nuts? That's how every NBA game ends. I was going to say, this is like that Clipper Suns game that took 20 minutes to play the last 40 seconds. Oh, my God.

That's ridiculous. Well, it's weird. It's weird you say that, actually, because pounties were down. Well, actually, I guess we're in Tier 3 now. So Tier 3 is strange wins and just outlier, outlier stuff. Weird outlier shit. Something that was really bizarre and really underplayed is holding pounties just went away. They just quietly, without talking about it, changed what holding pounties were.

Holding pounties were down 40%. This is the NFL's version of the purge. Anything else. It is. They purged it. The penalty purge. Lowest holding rate since Richard Dixon was president. And that, along with the lack of practice, led to all-time highs for all-time for any NFL

season, highs in points, yards, yards per play, first downs completions. And it was basically the best year for offense ever. Even rushing yards per attempt were at an all-time high, in large part because holding's legal. And then turnovers were the lowest since 1932. But the crazy one, and not 40% of. drives ended in a score. Lowest amount of punts ever, too, in a season.

Yeah, I mean, like, think about it all, I mean, this all totally makes sense. I think the NFL absolutely was just like, hey, let's, we just want these games to be entertaining, like, fuck it, let's go for it. But, I mean, think about how many plays, think about how many drives are foiled or derailed by holding calls. And so, I mean, yeah, it totally makes sense. Is it the least satisfying thing in sports when a big play happens and it comes back on a ticky-tech hold?

Yeah, that's the worst. It's the worst. Yeah, it really, it really is. Although I, these NBA playoffs have radicalized me against the Tray Young stuff where he goes backwards. That stuff's also infuriating. But a big play though is really annoying. All right, 16.

I don't know if this is, we maybe should have had this higher, but just generally speaking, the no fan thing. Right. Which is both the weirdest and least weird part of it. Like in the beginning, it was eerie. And by the end, it was like, yeah, sure, you want me to go back? But like, the cardboard cutouts, which we also. got used to, but we're so weird in the beginning.

Like, I vividly remember Bill Barnwell tweeting when the first cardboard cutout day happened, a Cubs game. And a guy was making a catch in the outfield, and there were just teddy bears behind him and empty seats, and he was like, try explaining this to someone six months ago. Yeah, like, where are we? But that was nuts. But also, the lack of fans just destroyed homefield advantage.

like generally speaking, home teams win 57% of their games. And this year they won 50% of their games. And then like, New Orleans, Prince Adi wrote a great story about it. Like Aaron Rogers got the same, in a Sunday night football, got the Saints to jump off sides in the red zone in the Superdome. Yeah, yeah.

We're normally like, you wouldn't be able to talk to anyone. And he's hard counting the other team instead of like not being able to communicate with his own team. So that's, Vegas went from giving home field worth two points to one point to like a half point by the end of the season. Yeah, that's actually pretty wild.

I think it's great. Like the crowd noise thing is certainly a big part of it. And like you said, the hard counts, things late in the games, the communication, all that's very interesting. But I also think it's fascinating that with no fans in the crowds, the referee bias changes. And I think they didn't they do studies where basically referees are more willing to call the road team for penalties because they're not worried about the wrath of the crowd? and all that stuff, like, even if it's just implicit. I don't, yeah, I think it's not, it's not conscious. It's implicit, as you said.

Yeah, subconscious. Yeah. The immediate reaction of like 70,000 people to a thing is just going to make you hold it. Yeah. I don't know. It's going to flip you if you're on the fence about something. Yeah. It was also super weird that like, I mean, we had no sense of time.

I feel like in the season last year. There was a game played on every night of the week in the season last year. Oh, yeah. Everybody was at home. Nobody was going to work. Nobody knew, like, what day. it was. There was nobody in the stands. It was like it was the most bizarre situation. I had this one for later, but we can just do it now. I think up there is just the games being

postponed, as you said. It did. Like already for so many reasons, time was warped, but the Bill's Titans game being moved from Thursday night football to Tuesday. And then the craziest one was the Steelers Ravens game, which went to Wednesday. It was the, no, but Wednesday afternoon. No, but it was the Thanksgiving game. So it's the marquee Thanksgiving game and probably the best Thanksgiving game in like 10 years on the schedule. They moved it to Sunday, couldn't do Sunday, wanted to do it, I think wanted to do it Tuesday

and then had to do it Wednesday. So that game got postponed like three different times. Yeah, we were all like in the middle of our work day. It was like 2.15 and it was like third and ten in the Steelers game. You're like what? The most like the most dystopian, hilarious like COVID pandemic season

factoid about this whole thing is the reason the reason the game was played in the freaking middle of the after on a Wednesday was because the Rockefeller Center Christmas tree lighting ceremony took precedent later that night. It's important. Or on NBC or whatever.

And the Ravens had like half of their starters. It was their JV team essentially against the Steelers. Yeah, right. Lamar was that? Oh, my God. You ever seen that tree in person? It's beautiful. Such a weird year. Okay. Before we get to the next one, I just want to make it as a fantasy angle. Do you think that the holding penalties are coming back? Do you think the offense is going to be as strong this next coming year?

Or should we all be prepared for a little bit of a pullback? I think the NFL, generally speaking, is almost always like foot on the gas. We want offense. We're not going to go back. However, I would be, maybe it's not like 40%, but I don't, I don't, I think that they like offense at an all time. If you just look at every sport right now, like they're trying to calibrate this. Points are the products.

They're trying to calibrate toward more points. Like the reason the NBA is, didn't the NBA is, didn't the NBA is? I also have a record high in points possession. That's also a direct result of how rules are being made and how things are being called. Like, they want more points. And I don't think right. Like, part of this is don't forget the Thursday night football game that I think was a

Titans game two years ago where Tom Brady was tweeting about how many fucking holding pallies they were. And he's like, this is ridiculous. Who gives a shit that there are less holding calls? Defensive linemen care. Defensive coordinators care. Nobody watching the games cares unless your team's getting screwed. But if every team can hold, who cares?

like right right i think it's fine the other thing i want to note for the home field advantage thing just this is we have this at 15 on the list oh i don't know a number we're out right now but uh technically home teams last year were below 500 like they were 1 27 128 and 1 yeah but three of those quote unquote home games were because the 49ers had to play three home games in Arizona. Their division rival. And this was because there was a California law in effect. Santa Clara County. Okay, yeah. Because of COVID outbreaks, which is obviously, it makes sense. Well, so Santa Clara County booted that, uh, they banned contact sports at every level. And the 90s were like, well, not every level. And they're like, every level, bitch. And then the 90s

like, uh-oh. The NFL's not used to being not above the law. No, they really aren't. Like antitrust. like it doesn't matter, you know. And then, so anyway, the Niners lost all three of those games. Well, it's like the Raptors this year played like most of their games in Florida because they weren't allowed to go to Canada. Yeah, I think, I mean, even the Rays, the Rays had to play half their, half of this season, I believe in Tampa Bay versus Buffalo. Like, they're shuttling.

Like, it's fucking, this would weird shit happened. All right. DK1-214. Yeah, so here's one that actually, you know, well, actually, here's a few that have, uh, fantasy implications. think just the Josh Allen, it got lost in the wash because there was so many other weird, really weird things that happened. But Josh Allen, having maybe the most extraordinary breakout season of any player in NFL history, like legitimately, I think you could make

the argument that this was the most surprising, shocking transformation we've seen from a quarterback. He went from, so I'm just going to read off a few stats. Completion percentage, 58.8% in 2019, which was dead last among 32 qualifying receivers. In 2020, that jumped over 11 points to fourth. He was 69.2%. His passing yards, he went from 3,089 in 2019. Zero 300-yard games, by the way. Zero. Which is like, I get that their offense was like, you know, whatever it was,

and he was running a lot and all that. But he was like, there was like five guys who had zero among qualifiers that had zero 300 yard passing. It's like duck Hodges. You can throw a 300 yard game once. Mason Rudolph.

Fucking Dwayne Haskins. Like this is the company that Josh Allen was in with zero 300 yard games. Last year, eight. Which was third most. Every other game. Every other game.

That's fucking crazy. So, yeah. So anyways, he went from 3,089 yards in 2019 to 4,500 in 20, 25th overall. In 2019, he threw 20 touchdown passes which was 21st.

Last year, 37, which was fifth. His pass rating jumped like 30 points from 24th. He ranked 24th in that area in 2019, 107.2 last year, which was fourth. The dude, like, he got accurate. Like, what happened? Let me hit you guys with a take.

Yeah. As Bill would say, Kyle, get the video machine going. I got a take. I think if you just watch highlights of Josh Allen's 2020, if an alien came down to watch Josh Allen's 2020 highlights compared to every quarterback ever, you could argue that he looks like the best quarterback of all time.

Yeah. Okay, NFL films, Craig, Craig, that's not even like that hot, honestly. NFL films, I don't know what he's the director or Cyon, Greg Kosell recently went on record saying, he believes that Josh Allen could be and could go down as the most physically gifted quarterback of all time. Like his size, arm strength,

agility, agility, rushing ability, like all that stuff together, most physically gifted. Trey Aikman said on Flying Coach, he scouted the 2018 rookie QBs coming out of college for the first time in his career and he said Josh Allen had the best arm he's ever seen in his life. Yeah.

Okay, but like, is he going to suck this year or what? Like, like if he just is, terrible for the first four weeks. They're going to be able to like, oh shit, maybe that crazy outlieries season was an outlier season. Can you imagine? We got bamboozled twice? I don't wish this upon Josh Allen, but it would be objectively hilarious if he just turns back into the fact.

First of all, nothing's objectively hilarious. Nothing's objectively hilarious. Don't overuse the word objectively. We already lost the word literally. Farts are objectively hilarious. No, nothing's objectively funny. Nothing is objective except for everyone. wants to eat their bread immediately upon getting to their table.

That Twitter poll that you saw the other day. Did you see this, by the way? Yeah, this woman was like, is it tacky to eat bread within five minutes of sitting down at a table? Dude, it was like 200,000 people voted on this poll and 97% of them said that, no, it's not tacky. You can't get 97% of any demographic or any group of people to agree on literally fucking anything. That's a true point. Because, like, I actually think if everyone here emailed us something, ringer fantasy football at gmail.com, like, could you get 97% of people to just vote the same way the internet poll? Even if it was obvious, people are going to shit post.

Yeah. Like, if it was like, is water wet, 10% of people will put no. Like, it's incredible to get 97% of people. Can I just say that it's kind of ridiculous that we just serve people bread before dinner and everybody just eats it? That makes no sense. It's the heaviest item you're likely going to eat that day. Why is that the first thing you eat? Because it's cheap, it's fresh, it's hot,

and it takes up room in your stomach. It makes you feel good. It gives you good vibes. Why do you want to take up room in your stomach? It's the cheapest food they can give you and you're hungry and an ornery asshole. Also, I think the real answer is it's convenient. I think the real answer is it's probably convention

and that if you don't do it, you probably are seen as like cheap, even though ironically like you'd rather, like the food will taste better. Like, hunger's the best seasoning. Yeah. It just makes no sense if you actually think about why we do that and we all just house loads of bread. Yes, is that it's tacky to eat the bread within five minutes?

Listen, I'm down. I'm going to do it. You're one of the 600 people out of 200,000. I'm the guy who voted for Harambe in the election. Craig is the 600. Yeah, I can see that. Let's keep rolling here. Number 13.

Okay. Here are things that happened. Here are things that happened to the Houston Texans in the calendar year of 2020. The Texans were up 24 nothing on Kansas City. in the second quarter of the fucking NFL playoffs. They blow the 24-0 lead before halftime and go into halftime down four points. They lose the game that they were up 24-0.

They lose by 20 points. The Chiefs go on to win the Super Bowl. Then the Texans trade DeAndre Hopkins for a second rounder. Then they trade a second rounder for Brandon Cooks. They use the money they saved on DeAndre Hopkins to sign Randall Cobb. Stud. And then they signed Laramie Tunsell, who's the left tackle they traded two firsts

in the second rounder for. They signed, Bill O'Brien signs him to a contract. That is so large, it redefines what offensive linemen can sign for. Even though Laramie Tonsel didn't hire an agent and negotiated himself. Then they start 0 and 4.

Bill O'Brien's fired. And then Jack Easter V, who is the guy who's like the Shadow GM, is compared and his Sports Illustrated, article by anonymous players to Little Finger from Game of Thrones and Sports Illustrated finds all of Jack Easterby's old resumes and they see that he changed his bit. He was basically like an intern with the Jaguars 20 years ago and he changed his title literally Dwight Shrewt went from assistant to the manager to assistant manager and then

just called himself manager for the same role. Jesus guy. I can see you make it, Jack. Yeah, he was literally the team chaplain, wasn't he for the Patriots? He was the team chaplain for the Patriots. That's a chaplain. Like the guy who helps players pray and like go like part therapist part part part spiritual guide. Like in other words, no fucking relation to football.

Zero, zero relation to football. He worked in ops. It's literally and now he's like running the team. It's kind of like what his hor houses have Littlefinger. How does Little Finger go from running whorehouses to his? city. I don't know if that's applicable, but he did it. Oh, my God. Yeah, prior to joining the Texans in 2019, he served chaplain and character coaching roles. Character coach to GM. Anyway, that was nuts. That was, this is probably should be number one. Like, the whole, the Texans

fall from grace was swift and bizarre. All right. That's 2020 for the Texans. Okay, Craig. You want to do 12? Sure, this is really just fantasy related, but in the moment it was crazy. Kyler Murray was breaking Lamar Jackson's short-lived pace of setting the highest scoring season of all time for fantasy players. Lamar averaged 28.1 points per game when he broke the record. The following year, through the first eight weeks, Kyler Murray was averaging 30.1. He was literally becoming the greatest fantasy player of all time. And then he hurt his shoulder on weeknight against Miami. And then 11 days later against Seattle.

And everything changed. He went from 60 yards rushing to 40 yards rushing, 263 yards passing to 236 yards passing. And they finished the year 3 and 6. And like everything changed. Everyone thought they were going to make the playoffs. You know, they were kind of like the new darling in the NFC. I kind of, you know, if Kyler never got hurt and he breaks the record, he's the QB1 in drafts this year, I would say, easily. Yeah.

The only thing about Kyler 2021 here is recently in an interview at OTAs, he basically said, my legs should be seen as a luxury and it wasn't like that last year and everybody basically was depending on me to run and look what happened I got hurt I don't want that to be a thing this year do you guys believe that or do you think that's just I feel like people say that every year

but when you get to scramble when he's got a scramble he's going to scramble aren't there plenty of things in your own life that you tell yourself you're going to do because it's the right thing to do and then you don't do it I should lay off carbs not eat bread before dinner off carbs yeah you got damn right

should you eat ready for dinner? No, do it every time if it's warm and there's good butter. He can say they're not going to run, but the second it's helpful to run, you're probably going to fucking run. Yeah. All right.

Yeah, and if Cliff Kingsbury's got his back to the wall, you know, and like if they start slow, like he's going to do everything to get that offense going. Why isn't he the QB1 in drafts then? Because he's 5 and 8? I don't know. I mean, he's like no worse

than the QB4 anywhere. And also I think that like Mahomes is, I think obviously number one, but like I think Kyler is going pretty high. Like I don't think anyone's down on Kyler. I just think it's kind of like, yeah,

it's like I don't think he's better than Mohamed. Yeah, I mean, Josh Allen's, he's below Josh Allen. I actually have Kyler above Josh Allen. I think I do too. I think I have Kyler at two. I have Kyler above Josh Allen.

Is it a hot take to say I think that like the top four guys are in their same tier? No, I think that's right. I think that that's largely correct, but part of me thinks the person who will stop running his deck.

like Dak, Jerry Jones already said he'll have to change his play style, but that's not like a, hmm, this really works, but we shouldn't do it. It's a, no, I don't know if Dak physically will be as fast or agile after his broken ankle. So yeah, um, speaking of Dak actually, some weird shit that happened with him. This is number 11 is that DAC was for the first four games was on pace to break Peyton Manning single season record, which whatever it's four games. He was on pace to break the record by a thousand yards, a thousand. he had, in week two,

Dak had a career high, 450 passing yards. In week three, he beat the career high the following week with 470, and then the next week he had another career high for 500. He had a career high

and passing yards three weeks in a row, and then he broke his fucking ankle. That would have been fun to see if that would have carried. I'm sure it wouldn't have carried quite so ridiculously, but man. Part of it's their defense gave up so many freaking points

in those games that it was literally like they had to throw early in offense so that was unsustainable. that's and those are the two things I'm a little down on DAC this year it's that the combination of the defense can't be as bad even if it's still bad and so therefore they will have to run more which is why I actually don't mind Zeke this year and then also just he's not going to run as much but we shall see DK got another weird one for us and speaking of rates like so we talked about Kyler's rate through eight weeks Dax rate through four weeks Russell Wilson's let Russ Cook like era the let Russ Cook era was a beautiful thing while lasted through seven games. Dude, the Seahawks first seven games. Wilson was actually outscoring and outpacing Kyler and Lamar and Dak and everyone in fantasy points for game.

30.3 fantasy points for game. He had passed for 21 or 2,151 yards, 26 touchdown, six picks. That put him out of pace for just about 5,000 yards passing, 59 touchdowns, which would have been an NFL record, and 12 picks. So. He would have had the great.

the greatest fantasy season of all time if he kept that up. So obviously, like, it didn't happen. It didn't sustain that because everything fell apart. The wheels fell off. Well, the wheels, no, it's important to talk. He turned the ball over a lot. And Pete Carroll, I think his stat is they were 53 and 1 or whatever, 53 and 0 at USC when he, they didn't, when they won the turnover battle. So Pete Carroll flipped out about the turnovers.

And so, like, here's the question, though, D.K. Are they going to let Russ throw a lot more this season? or are they going to go back to the second half of the season and not let him throw? Because he had his whole temper tantrum with like the trade. Then Russ wants to throw and Pete Carroll doesn't want to do it. What's going to happen this year? I mean, I think it's going to be, it's not going to be as crazy as the let Russ Cook era, era, the quote unquote, let Russ Cook era because that was also like the Cowboys and like,

you know, we saw with like, for instance, the Bengals and stuff. Like the Seahawks defense was so atrociously bad that the Seahawks were having to throw that much and having to be uber aggressive and keep the foot on the pedal, that's not how typically how they want to play. And generally speaking in the P. Carroll era, when the CXs get a lead, that's when they slow things down and go back to their game. It's why the CX always win like 16 to 15.

It's like every game comes down to the final possession. That's how Pete Carroll wants to play. I will say, though, I think that they're going to be more up-tempo. I think they are going to let Russell Wilson throw the ball a good amount. And to be clear, like in the second half of the year, It wasn't like the Seahawks went into the shell and just ran and, like, completely took Wilson out of the game. Like, they still threw, I think, at an above average rate in neutral situations. It wasn't like they stopped throwing.

It was just like much less than they were in the beginning of the year, if that makes any sense. So I think it is going to be somewhere in the middle. I do think, you know, this new offensive coordinator, Shane Waldron, he comes from the Rams. He's their passing game coordinator. I don't think he, you know, I don't think he was brought in to. let Russ cook necessarily, but I don't think he's also, it's not like he's going to put the, you know,

the restrictor plates back on the quarterback and like turn back into, you know, the early days of the Seahawks where they're just like 50-50 run-pass splits and things like that. I don't think that's going to happen. All right. So number nine, while Russ was doing really well, Carson Wentz melted down to his solid core. I mean, there are meltdowns and then there's like the cluster

fuck that are the Eagles. Never mind that the Eagles had like a crazy injury play 209. and then we're just as injury played 20-20. Wentz was basically lasted everything you want to be first in. He's first in everything you want to be last in. He then refuses to play in week 17. Like he's dressed,

like he doesn't dress, but he's there. They have to play Jalen Hertz. Then the Eagles bench hurts to tank the game, put in Nate Sudfeld. It works. They lose the game. Give the division to Washington. And then the Eagles season, basically ends how the Sixers season does,

which is, wow, that top pick we made in 2016, we got to fucking get rid of that guy. This whole thing was super weird. And then when they fired Doug Peterson, I was like, oh, okay, so they're going to stick by Wentz. They're going to try and facilitate everything. This is going to go back to the status quo before

this cluster fuck happened. And then they trade Wentz, too. Yeah, the Eagles, the Eagles have really challenged Bill Simmons's old rule about, like, after your team wins the title, you have to like, you can't bitch for five years. The Eagles have made it really hard to follow that rule.

Yeah. That's, it's, I think that one, that one's limited to two now. Also, the thing with the Eagles, like secretly is I think more teams are going to tank.

Now it's like 18 weeks. I think teams are more teams are going to tank because the Eagles basically got the six pick, traded back to pick up another first rounder. Like losing that meaningless game got them a fucking first round pick. I think that's incredible. And other teams will do that. All right.

That's number nine. Craig, you want to do number eight? Yeah. This one's near and, year to my heart. The Browns just destroying the Steelers in the playoffs last year. Going up 28-0 in the first quarter after the Steelers went 12-0 to start the year. Well, fandom really skews the memory. I believe they're the first team to go 11-0 and then finish season 12 and 4. So good job on you,

Pittsburgh. They're the worst 11-0 team ever, by a lot, actually. Fraudulent, a fraudulent 11-and-0. But then the weirdest part was the Browns that game were riddled with COVID problems. Kevin Stafansky, the head coach, tested positive for COVID, couldn't go to the game and to watch it at home. Oh, my God. From his basement, as his family watched upstairs without the three-second delay that he had. And they kicked the shit out of the Steelers. Before the game, Juju was interviewed, and they were like, do you feel like the Browns team this year is a little different than years past? You know, they're seeing success for the first time in a long time.

He's like, no, these guys are still the Browns to me. Like, I'm happy we're playing them in the first game. That didn't age well, Juju. not only not only first I'm sorry Craig that you had to watch that really humiliation on TV they made it run out of it there was a moment where they were like down like eight in the fourth or something it's true they did almost win the game but the crazy shit is that not only was their freaking head coach out and I think the offensive coordinator too like but they also had their top two cornerbacks and their top

two o linemen were also on the COVID list and despite that the Browns were up 28 to nothing in their first 28 plays from scrimmage of the Not the Brown's first 28 plays. The first 28 plays of the game, 28-0-0. The biggest first quarter lead in playoff history. And then the Browns won their first playoff game in 25 years. Yeah, first play of the game. Snap went over Ben's head.

They recovered in the end zone. The next series, Ben throws a pick, the Brown's score. The next series, Ben throws a pick, the Brown score. It was a fucking nightmare. That was crazy. I also can't get over Kevin Stefanski watching that at home like everyone else. And he said that he didn't know what happened in that first snap. he just knew that his family was screaming upstairs

so we figured it was something good. So relatable. Very relatable, yeah. The Browns kind of like almost could have maybe beat the chiefs in the playoffs. They were close, but no cigar. Like it was like you can see the makings of it for next season. Yeah. It was kind of like NBA-ish and like they're not there yet,

but this is closer than it should be. Another thing that was really funny last year. The Jets beating the Rams to lose Trevor Lillard. was unbelievable, especially because it was two weeks after they were beating the Raiders, and the Raiders beat the Jets on that Hail Mary? Because Greg Williams called the Cover Zero on a Hail Mary situation. Greg Williams called Engage 8 on cover zero, or on the Hail Mary.

And then every Jets Finn, every Jets Finn, yeah, got fired the next day. Every Jets fan loses their shit because they're like, thank God we're not losing Lawrence. And then two weeks later, they beat the freaking. Rams. Also, by the way, I don't know if this mattered, like if it was the tiebreak or not, but they beat the Browns the next week after they beat the Rams. I don't remember this game. I have eliminated it from my memory. Was that like the Browns just decided to give up or what? Because Baker Mayfield played the whole game. I don't remember. Bill said the other day that your brain is like a nightclub and there's only so many people that can be in. I feel that way about

football games. The Jets Brown game, like that one did. Sherlock Holmes Mind Palace. You got to let some other shit out. When I'm 50 years old, I'm not going to have remembered. a single thing that happened in any season. There are going to be too many games in my brain. Do you think we'll remember each other? Be like, oh, yeah, that Danny Kelly guy. Vaguely. Yeah, so how did the Jets beat the Browns?

I don't remember this at all. Anyway. It's not worth it. Kind of a flex by Greg Williams. Like, maybe he was like, fuck it, I want to get fired. I'm just going to call cover zero on a Hail Mary. Mike drop. I think he was trying to, he's the only one with a vision for saving the team,

which is get Trevor Lawrence. And that's the guy they fired. The only guy is smart enough to not win the game. And then what happened after they fired him? They played great defense against the Rams. That was fucking stupid. Anyway, speaking of what fucking stupid, tier two of craziness. So we just finished up tier three, which is basically like, how would we describe

tier three? Strange, like outlier shit. Tier two stuff of weird shit that happened in 2020 is the what the fuck is happening stuff. This is what the fuck is happening. Number six, we've got the Taysom Hill debacle of what he would. was a tight end or a quarterback as a quarterback. This was insane. This went all the way to the fantasy Supreme Court.

I can't remember. What was the official decision of the court that he can't be the quarterback? We ruled that it was, we ruled despite our best instincts that it was fucking bullshit for him to be able to be a quarterback to lieutenant. It was fucking nuts. I know that in one of my leagues that I had picked up Tatea Hill in preparation for this because I knew this was going to happen. I had this premonition that he's going to. end up being the starter. Bree's going to get hurt, whatever.

And I had it, and I was like, this is going to be awesome. And I got voted out. And my league voted to not let me do it. Imagine that. Your competitors voting to hurt their competitors. Who could have seen that coming? Oh, you seem super bitter.

I forgot this was a divided opinion from the Supreme Fantasy Court. I forgot that. I was in favor of letting it stand. I was the swing vote. I'm like the Anthony Kennedy of Supreme Fantasy Court. Holy cow. Anyway, that was weird.

Hopefully that never happens again. Yeah, DK, you're getting old. Maybe you should retire soon. We got to nominate some new justices. Okay. Craig, you want to do number five? This is the top five. This is big.

Top five weirdest shit of 2020. It should probably be higher. It should probably be higher. The NFL season. Charges quarterback Justin Herbert starting in week two because of medical malpractice and then winning offensive rookie of the year. Um. Okay, so in the moment, it was kind of scary, but in retrospect.

Hilarious. Kind of funny. I mean, not for, Tyrod Taylor, but... I'm sure... Most people probably know this, but I'll quickly run through it. Tyra Taylor hurt his ribs in week one.

He was the starter. And in week two, before the game, was receiving a pain-killing injection in his chest, and it didn't go well. In minutes, mere minutes before the game started

against the fucking chiefs, they're like, well, Tyrod can't play. Hey, Justin, get in there, kid. Anthony Lynn, the coach of the charges, found out before the coin toss,

and he thought they were, like, messing with him. And they're like, yeah, Tyrod can't go. He's like, What the fuck? So Justin Herbert comes in, who, mind you, was a draft pick nobody was thrilled about. Everybody thought he was overrated.

He comes in. Including me. Against, again, the Chiefs. He marches down the field in his first drive and runs in a touchdown. And they lose an overtime to a 58-yard field goal to the Chiefs. And he goes on to have the greatest rookie quarterback season in history and wins offensive rookie of the year. By the way, I will go to my grave, believing 100% that Anthony Lynn

would have sat Justin Herbert until like week 10 if he had his own choice. I think you're right. I think you are right. It would have been the like stupidest thing because like look how good he is, man. It's the poster,

he's now the poster boy for like why these guys don't sit. Talk about like sliding doors. Yeah. That's why I like Justin Fields this season. It's why like Lawrence like my rankings this year, I basically have Justin Fields as like QB 11, QB 12.

Basically I think it should be the first backup quarterback drafted. Like Stafford are, I believe is my quarterback 12th. Basically, there's the top, the bottom three guys are like 9, 10, 11, 12 or like Jalen Hertz, Tannhill, Brady, Stafford. I think a lot of people have those four guys in some order. The second, those four guys are gone, I want Justin Fields. Not because I think he's going to start necessarily week one or week two, but because the Derek Cars and Kirk Cousinses and Matt Ryan's of the world don't interest me with

upside. But if Justin Fields plays, even if it's by week four, I think he could be like a top five quarterback every week. So weirdly, he's ahead of those guys for me. can you imagine if Tyrae Taylor played 10, 11 weeks, the charges were like 7 and, oh my God. You know, seven and four, seven and five, or whatever, maybe the opposite. And they put Herbert in. He has like a mediocre four to five games to finish the year.

And now we're all like, is he a bust? Like, that could have literally happened. The only person who probably played too much was Tua because he just came back from this hip injury and then was kind of judged as if he did not have a serious hip injury less than a year earlier. Too much. Yeah. All right. number four we actually already did this one but just the game's getting moved playing on every day of the week yeah every day of the week we already talked about that but that was fucking nuts and did not

help our collective disassociation from time in reality wednesday afternoon i vote is the weird that was so fucking bizarre i cover football for a living and i remember thinking that it was weird that i was watching football during the workday i think i think i was in a meeting and everyone's like well got to go the steelers games on Okay, you want to take number three top, it's the top three. Top three weirdest things that happened 2020. I mean, yeah, so producer Kate. I think this should be number one.

In her email. Is this? Yeah, this is probably too low. Shouts to Katie, but Kendall Hinton started a fucking game at quarterback, which he hadn't even started a game at receiver. He's a rookie receiver. On the practice squad. Right.

He had never played his position in the NFL. And he started at quarterback for an NFL. team and did about as well as you'd expect a practice squad receiver starting at quarterback in the NFL against a good Saints defense. He went, so hold on, backing up a little bit. The reason he started was because all four of the Broncos quarterbacks had broke, they'd broken the COVID protocols and were all hanging out doing their thing. They were in the quarterback room eating snow.

In a fairness, I believe what happened was they were there and masked up and they ate lunch and I don't think they put their masks on quickly after lunch, which, damn, that's some real, like, imagine doing that for some Jimmy Johns or whatever. You go get Jersey mics, and then it's like, holy shit, like, Kendall Hitton's a quarterback. Hey, Jersey mics is pretty good. So NFL teams needed to do, like,

the Secret Service thing where you never really have like all the top four guys in the, you know, in the hierarchy of the leadership, like, in the same room together. Coaches talked about this all season. Coaches from, like, May, when these guidelines came out, were like, my quarterbacks are never all going to be the same room together. Designated survive.

We need the designated survivor at like quarterback. You know what? There should be one for the whole league. Oh, like automatic quarterback. Yeah, it's good idea. Flooding designated guy. It's just like Joe Flacco is just the fourth string quarterback for every team in the league. I think that is his real job in real life.

No, that's just Josh Johnson who's signed and been cut from 76 different teams. Josh Johnson's the only guy who's made a living on just the five grand you get for showing up to a workout. Like, he's just collected like enough money from that. That sounds nice for me. I respect it. Anyways, back to Kendall Hinton. Like I said, it went about as well as you'd expect literally anyone coming in without, I mean, I guess he had had some quarterback experience in his lifetime.

But he came in, went one. It's like Wake Forest or whatever. He went one for nine for 13 yards and two picks. Needless to say, zero point zero passer rating. Needless to say, the Broncos did not win. that game. They lost 31 to 3. To Tayam Hill. To Tayson Hill at QV, which, by the way, also weird. Taysam Hill didn't even crack our top 20.

There's a running back versus a wide receiver at quarterback. The all-time game. Craig, what else you got about Hinton? Did you guys know that Kendall Hinton's wristband was added to the pro football Hall of Fame? Not the Hall of Forget. I can't believe it. It's like a unique experience, a unique. game, that's for sure. No, that's actually what the NFL does. They take shit that should

be controversial or whatever, and instead they pitch it as like, look at the adversity, our league has overcome. So Hinton's wristband is placed next at the Tom, next to Tom Matt's wristband in the exhibit. You all know who Tom Matt is? No. He was a running back

in the 60s for the Baltimore Colts who played quarterback when Johnny Unitas and whoever the other quarterbacks were got hurt. He came in and played a game, and they put his wristband in the Hall of Fame, now next to Kendall Hinton's, which officially marked the least interesting part of the Hall of Fame of all time. Also, technically, this sucks for Hinton. He did not technically register as the starter of the game because the first offensive play was a wildcat formation, so he didn't even start. Oh, that I did not know. That's fucked up.

What? So he didn't start the game. So at his next like contract negotiation, he's not going to be able to say. It's like starting, starting, that's not how starting should work. That's kind of right. So Tom Matt is the only non-quarterback starter. By the way, to round it all back to the present time, apparently Kendall Hinton's having a great offseason, you guys. He's getting a lot of hype as a receiver.

Would you draft Kendall Hinton? Not as a quarterback. No. But he might make the team. So good for him. There you go. All right. This one's number,

honestly, Kendall Hinton should be number two and this should be number three. But it makes sense for this to be number two. Lamar Jackson's cramps versus the Bramble. Browns. I had forgotten about this. Lamar took the Browns to the Super Bowl. This was the, was this Apex Mountain for memes?

Like is me, are memes ever going to have as good of a moment? Paul Pierce. I think the wheelchair. The Blake Griffin being locked in the Clippers house as they tried it. Oh yeah. It was like the original like live Twitter event for me. But this one was really up there.

Like here's like, first of all, it just felt appropriate to put this at number two. second of all, if we're talking about the weirdest shit of 2020 NFL season, this was literally the weirdest shit that happened of the 2020 NFL season. Oh. It will go down in the anals of history. Nice.

That was worse than mine. Now, why doesn't this toilet go to the Hall of Fame? My question is, how does this not happen more? Seriously. I was wondering that too. I think it does happen. I think guys will just go into the locker room like, oh, my ankle. But they're not the starting quarterback in the fourth quarter in week 14.

football. The best part, well, I might be skipping ahead, but where you're going here. But the best part is he came back and threw a fucking touchdown on fourth down. Like, it was glorious. He was lighter. Do we have to mention that he still denies this, which I don't know why he hasn't. He should have just came out with like a branded like, what are the bidet is called? Oh, yeah, seriously. Like, he should just came out with a branded thing. Like, yeah. But you know what? That's why I came back through a touchdown.

Had one of these bad boys. Yeah. Let's stop poop shaming. Normalize pooping. We really should. Everybody poop. Isn't there something that like, I don't, I think this is a story that I don't know if it's totally true, but didn't it like a Roman emperor like put up walls? Like people used to poop next to each other without walls. They put up walls and that like changed Western culture. And now we're like, we're like ashamed of it. It used to be more normalized. And it's like there's only three things we really have in common and we shame one of them. It's kind of strange. Thanks, Nero. I think it. No, is Augustine? I don't know. Also might don't know if that's true to be honest. But alas.

Well, fun fact. Yeah. Listen, the next time somebody at the ringer NFL network, Or anywhere, interviews a player. Somebody asked the real questions and say, hey, listen, how many actual guys take shits during the game? How often does that happen? I'd love to know. Well, half time, it's probably a good amount. But, like, during the game... For people that have played competitive sports, I would say it's a known thing.

Like, nerves get to you. Yeah. And guess what happens when we have really bad nerves. Some guys lock up to it right before the game. Pregame poop is very normal. Yeah. Big game's very Heter used to throw up

before SNL like every single week Man that's dedication But midgame poop is different Yeah the midgame bomb is tough Because you know

Like when you go to sleep A night Even if you kind of had to shit You just walk Your body just goes into dormancy Yeah your body locks up It's the fight or flight thing It's the fighter flight response

Yeah Some guys probably can't poop Even the Super Bowl's four and half hours Like some guys probably just straight up can if they want to Yeah I find it fascinating. I asked, when I was in Miami for the Super Bowl last year, I asked, who is it Colquit?

Who's the punter for the Chiefs? Dustin, Colquit, yeah. Actually, there's two Britain, Britain and Dustin. I don't remember which one. I think it's Dustin. I asked him at the press thing what everybody eats before the Super Bowl. I was very curious. I'm very curious about players diets and what they eat the day of the games.

And he kind of told me that they have this whole layout of like steak versus chicken and potatoes and veggies. It's just like a very basic like night before games. then like players can kind of do whatever they want the day of. And I was kind of surprised that there wasn't more of like a, we're having health smoothies, we're having car, like the right type of complex carbs.

I would be like full Steve Nash and be like, everyone's in cryo-jerk chambers and we're all eating the right foods. Is this why Tom Brady is like playing when he's 43 years old? He doesn't take anything. Nothing that is like inflammatory. You're not going to get the shits in the middle of a game. Take note, Lamar. Take note.

Speaking of Brady. What did Lamar eat? What did he? That's the question. That's what... They say journalism's dead. Let's find answers to this. It's like MJ eating that pizza in Utah.

You know? It's like, what did Lamar eat that day? Wow. Yeah, I forgot about that. She got to the bottom of this. All right, tier one. His poo game, not his flu game. Sorry, I'm done.

Good one. I feel like I've heard all these on Twitter like eight months ago, but they're still funny the second time around. There's so much content now that you forget everything that happened. Meme Apex Mountain. I'm sticking to it. It was the funest.

Meme Apex Mountain. It was the most of it. fun I've had on Twitter, maybe ever. Wait, you guys hear me out here. You know how there's so many memes that, like, it's almost hard to remember jokes. You have am memesia. Ammja. Oh, wow, amemesia.

That's actually really good. Get out. Thank you. Thank you. When I need to Craig, when I want a word for something, I just text Craig. Like, I told Craig, you haven't given me this one. I want a word for when a waiter is coming out with your food, and then they walk past you and you realize it's not your food for your table.

And you're disappointed. Oh, yeah. Like, I want a German word for email us at ringer fantasy. football at gmail.com for that word, please. We will get a response to this. We've got a good number of German-speaking fans. We're going to be fluent in German. I want the German word for when a waiter walks past you with your food and it's not

your food and you get upset. Anyway, should we get to the number one craziest thing that happened in the NFL 2020 season? You have another Mimja Joe, Craig. This one's a letdown in my opinion, but it is, you know, it's weird like when you look back 50 years from now, you know? No, I'm keeping, no, this is the only one that's the time. Tom Brady left the fucking Patriots, went to the Tampa Bay Buccane.

years, which was weird at the time, and then they won the fucking Super Bowl. That's number one. I don't care. I know other shit happened. Every part of it was weird. Him leaving the Pats was weird. It was weird that he signed with the bucks, and it wasn't even the biggest news of the week in sports because March madness was canceled.

It wasn't even that big of, it was a big deal, but even when it happened, it was like lockdowns, shelter in place. The same day he announced, the White House was like, don't gather in groups of more than 10 people. Like, this was completely overshadowed by real life. So it didn't get the credit it. didn't get the hype it usually would have gotten. Then they won the Super Bowl by a lot.

Yeah, I'm just at the point now where I'm like, yeah, Brady's like a freak of nature. Fucking inevitable. He's the opposite of death. He's the opposite of the grim reaper, whatever that is. Well, here's the thing. So, DK, you sent this to us last night. And you said this is- Oh, wait. I didn't fact-check this, but I'm just going to assume it's all for that.

No, I fact-checked. The tweet was a little off. So I've up there was a tweet from the Samara Ali, which was really good. it was a little off so I fact-checked it. You went back and checked every sports championship. Yeah, I did have to. A couple were off. So here's the thing.

The point is that Tom Brady is Title Town. Like everywhere that Tom Brady has lived has been successful. Where he's physically present. Yeah, where he's physically present. So let's just go through Tom Brady's life. He was born in the Bay Area in 1977. The Niners then draft Joe Montana in 79. So Tom Brady's there for his child.

in the Bay Area. The Niners win the Super Bowl in 1979. The Raiders, the Oakland Raiders, win the Super Bowl in 1980. The 49ers win the Super Bowl in 81, 84,

88, 89. The Oakland A's also win the World Series in 1989, and then the Niners win it again in 94. So that's crazy. Then... And that brings him to 17 years old.

17. Tom Brady then goes to college. He goes to Michigan. He's in Ann Arbor, which is near Detroit. The Red Wings win two Stanley Cup finals, and Michigan football

wins a national championship. Then Tom Brady is drafted, goes to, like Foxborough, basically Boston. The Patriots win the Super Bowl in 2001, 2003, 2004, 2004, and 2007. The Patriots go 16 in 0-107. Clues to the Giants, though, lull.

The Celtics win the NBA finals in 08. The Bruins win the Stanley Cup in finals in 11. Red Sox win the World Series in 13. Patriots win the Super Bowl in 14, 16, and 18, then the Red Sox win in 18. Tom Brady goes to Tampa Bay. And then the Lightning win the Stanley Cup, the Rays make the World Series,

and almost win the World Series. The Bucks win the Super Bowl. And last fucking night, the Lightning won the Stanley Cup again. The opposite of death. Tom Brady is literally the opposite of the Grim Reaper. Whatever that is.

He's a human holy grail. This is so fucking weird. crazy. This is bizarre. I don't even know what to say about this. Like, what's happening? I'll tell you what should happen. The Bucs. The NBA team, the Bucs, should fly Tom Brady to Minnesota

and maybe they'll beat the Suns. All right, I'm counting. So he's been alive for 43 years, and I believe if I counted right, the cities, he's physically been present and have 27 titles. Like half, more than half time. So, like, every year Tom Brady's been alive, the city he lives in wins a,

title every other year. On average. Maybe like a city, maybe there should be like a bidding war. Like, what city would pay the most for him to just live there? My city council is just voting on like, let's give him a retirement pension to come here and just live. At least part of the area. They could pay off the Chase Center with all the money the loss from Durant leaving. Yes. Where will Brady live in his retirement? What city could pay him the most to live there and give them a ring? Milwaukee? They're up there. Well, pay him the most. It's obviously go back to San Francisco. Just, you know,

know. Yeah. Clearly. New York. I bet you New York could pay a pretty penny. Yeah. Oh, his kids are in the northeast. New York is that he probably would settle in Manhattan. He can get one of those tall penthouse towers at like the big buildings where they live in that cost $30 million a pop and are actually terrible. Would you have to live in Jersey for this rule to work? No, because we're stretching a little bit. It's Boston, San Mateo, San Francisco. I think it's a metropolitan area. It doesn't have to be. It's within half a year. You get to Jersey in 25 minutes. Jacksonville probably pay a lot I think he's already got the Florida thing down anyway

this is insane this is an insane fucking year that's an insane thing honest to God I want to be earnest for a moment and thank everyone who's listening to us over the last year we launched this pod in the middle of a crazy fucking year we didn't know if there was gonna be a football season we launched this

thank you so much for everyone who stuck with us through this episode but also just through the last year we are like immensely excited to get going through a relatively normal ish NFL season and just thank you for sticking with us and we're like really excited to be like back and better than ever this year. So thank you. We got the draft guide coming next week and we're absolutely fucking pumped.

Yeah. Thank you everybody. Appreciate you guys so much. Absolutely. Most of all. The most important person to think of all other than Katie. Thank you, Lauren. Thank you, Bee Gees.

Oh, Barry Gibb. Very good one. On the Barry Gibb talk show. That's one of the best SNL. Speaking of Lauren. Yeah. Madonna at us. no no maria carry not madonna oh my god how did i just confuse them what the much is that now she's now maria's never gonna hit a shot you confused with madonna

screwed it up she just slammed her laptop she was emailing us as we speak one day