The Ringer NFL Show - The 2021 Fantasy Rewatchables

Episode Date: January 10, 2022

The Ringer’s Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck recap the 2021 fantasy football season in the format of 'The Rewatchables'. Email us! [e-mail] Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You've got to go to Spotify. But if you're on any other platform, you only get the last 60 days of episodes. Coming up, it's the second annual fantasy rewatchables. All right, I'm here with Danny Hive. It's a Danny Kelly. It is the middle of the day on Sunday, Week 18. We're taping during the afternoon games. So Cooper Cup breaks a record.

We're going to miss it. We saw the Steelers make the playoffs. We saw the Jaguars, beat the Colts. But I'm here with you guys. It's the second annual fantasy rewatchables. If you guys haven't heard the first one we did last year, you're probably thinking, what is this? Is Bill Simmons okay with this?

Yes, he is. We're not going to get fired. his permission. Guys, how does it feel to be back in the rewatchable saddle? Oh, it feels amazing. I went back and re-listen to last year. It was really fun, so I'm super excited to do this. Yeah, so like we did last year for this year,

we essentially just repurpose all of the rewatchables movie categories that you know and love, and we apply them to the NFL season. And we've even added a category that we'll get to later. Also, do you want to explain why you're hosting, Craig? Oh, yeah, sure. I produced the rewatchables. I've done it for, God, close to maybe three years now. so I'm intimately related with that with that podcast I love it

and that's why I'm at the helm today I love you doing your bill impersonation yeah I just I just like it all right well before we get started here we did this last year I liked it I want to do it again I want to run through top 12 at each position for fantasy just to give some context how things shook out this year so I'm gonna run through them right now here the top 12 quarterbacks this year Josh Allen number one Herbert two Tom Brady Mahomes

Joe Burrow at 5. We'll get into that later. Matt Stafford, Aaron Rogers, Hertz at 8, Dak Prescott, Kyler, Kurt Cousins, and Derek Carr at 12. At running back, we got Jonathan Taylor 1, Echler 2, Mixing 3, Naji 4, Leonard Fornett 5, this is all a half-PPR,

Zik 6, James Connor 7, Cordero Paterson, 8, Aaron Jones 9, Nick Chub 10, and then Camara and Gibson at wide receiver. Obviously, we have Cup 1, then it goes Devonte Adams, Debo Samuel, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Tyree Kill, Stefan Diggs is seven,

Deonti Johnson is eight, and then we got Mike Evans, D.K. McCaff, Keenan Allen and Chris Godwin. And then at tight end, he had Mark Andrews was the number one tight end this year for the first time and a while, stole it from Travis Kelsey, who got second.

New throne. Yeah, Kittle was third. Dalton Schultz, four, Kyle Pitts, Goddert, Dawson, Knox was seven. Zach Ertz was eight, Hunter Henry, Gronk was 10, Giscan and Fant were 11 and 12. What stands out to you guys the most

after hearing those top 12s. So here's the way I'm going to frame it. These were some of the ones that I was like somewhat surprised to see. D.K. Metcalf finishing as the wide receiver 10 at half PPR was slightly surprising. I don't know why. It just felt like such a weird year for the Seahawks. And then I think at running back, there wasn't really anything that crazy. What we're talking about?

We got James Connor at 7 and Corderole Patterson at 8. That didn't surprise you? I guess maybe, maybe right now it's not a, it's not crazy to me to think. that. Like, I guess based on, like, the fact that he is, that Patterson in particular was like a running back one is crazy and weird, but like seeing that now after we're all done, it's not that weird because we've been talking about them all season. Does that make sense? I feel like when you look at the running backs versus the wide receivers, the wide receivers are kind of chalky, a little bit more chalky and running back is just completely all over the place.

I mean, most of the first round picks, there's a category coming up later while I'll discuss this, but like, man, half the guys in the top 12 are running back are random. Yeah, when I look at the positions that you just listed, Craig, I think about, when I look at quarterback, well, really when I look at all these positions, I think about the changing of the guard from this season. Like you look at all the new names that have ascended and surpassed the old names. And running back like John Taylor, Najee Harris, Joe Mixon, Antonio Gibson, David Montgomery, Giovante Williams, guys are going to go really high next year. Receiver. Cooper Cup has joined the best receivers in the NFL. Justin Jefferson might be as good as anybody in the league. Debo, Samuel, what position is he?

Jamar Chase now, is he a top 10 receiver? Definitely. Top five, probably not, but maybe. And then quarterback, a quarterback of the teams in the league have a quarterback 26 or younger who is either elite or might be elite soon. That's a huge number. It reminds you of the NBA a few years ago where you're like, oh, the league's going to get good hands. And I think that, one, that's just exciting.

And then two, it also is going to jumpstart into next year this whole question of like, I think more receivers are going to go in the first round. people are going to be more radicalized against taking running backs earlier and people are going to be fine to take the less volatile receiver stocks and people are going to be more willing to gamble that you can get a running back

in the middle of this season via free agency. Yeah, and even looking at, if you look at quarterback, I want to talk about Joe Burrow really quickly, so he's fifth on the year. But he's only fifth because he had two 40-point back-to-back games in week 16 and 17.

Like, does that even count? Like, I feel like when looking back, it counts. It counts. But if you had him in fantasy, you probably didn't make the playoffs with him. So then... Yeah, I think that's why points per game is important. It's why it's always deceptive to kind of look at fantasy via just like totals. I mean, you said D.K. Metcalf, does D.K. Metcalfe count as the top 10 guy if, like, he had, like, five straight weeks of single digit points?

Like, I don't know. It's all contextual like that. I feel like we're... I don't know. Burrow was fine. He was a QB eight through eight weeks. No, he was. I don't think Burrow was the good example.

I think Jemar Chase is just as much of an outlier like that. that. But you can say that about every player every year. You almost need to look at their median score, not their average, because Burroughs double 40 point games really shoot them up, but his median scores, like, really a borderline fringe QB1 kind of. You know? If you're looking for consistency,

which I feel like is what you want day in and day out, like, two blow up 40 point games week 16 and 17, it's not exactly what, like, tickles my fancy when looking at fantasy. It's like, you don't want Mike Williams this year. You want fucking Cooper Cup. You want 18 a game. You know what I mean? This was like, this reminds me of a, I got, we got an email from someone who literally went through and, like,

tracked how many points Mike Williams actually scored in his lineup for him. And it was like five. Because it was like, the first two weeks, yeah, exactly. The first two weeks didn't trust him. Like, but whatever, he went through the whole thing. It was really funny. So that was a good email. I don't have it in front of me. Maybe we'll read it sometime when we're talking about Mike Williams in particular. But it was like, he was so inconsistent. And the production was so hit or miss that he like actually didn't get very many points from them. That's different with quarterbacks because you're starting, the same quarterback probably every week, but still,

it's pretty funny. Yeah, you need that unwavering loyalty. You've got to start them every, every goddamn week. Yeah. All right. All right, should we, you want to get into the categories? Let's do it. Let's do it. All right, first up, most rewatchable scene, which we have called most rewatchable play. I'll read my nominees to you guys, and then you can tell me what you got

after. I actually found that this category was much harder this year than it was last year. Same here. I did too. Can I, all right, you know what, before we get to any of the plays,

before we even get to them, I want to give you guys a take right here. I think that the lack of rewatchable plays this year as we get through this list mirrors the lack of truly elite teams. Just like there were no teams

this year that you're going to look back on and be like, that team was great, there weren't really any plays this year that you're like, oh, when we're talking about it and you're like,

oh, let's just pull it up on YouTube and watch it right now. None of these plays are actually worth pulling up on YouTube going through the 10 seconds of ads to watch. No, and I can go, that's why I wanted to, my first nomination was, can we just still give it to D.K. McCaf's chase down from 2020? That's also this year's. Just run it back. When I think

back to 2021, I'll be like, oh yeah, that was the year after D.K. McHath had that sweet chase down. As I tried to think of plays from this year, I kept thinking of plays from 2020 because like, like everything else, all, like these two years have bled together for me. I don't know where one stops and one begins. And I just found that every moment I try to think of from this year, I just, Like, oh, that was cool. It's like, oh, no, that was last year. What was your favorite play from COVID? From junior year or sophomore year?

We're going to make the letterman jackets. All right, so here's my number one. The first one that came to my head, honestly, this isn't even a play. It's Antonio Brown, ripping off his uniform and doing Jumby Jackson leaving the game. I think that is going to be remembered for a very long time. I mean, that's certainly like, I mean, iconic is definitely not the right word. What's the, what's the right word? Infamous, I don't know.

Infamous. Yeah, infamous. Infamous. Infamous is actually what. I'm looking for. That one definitely stands out, especially, like, if you're talking recency bias, because it just happened. It was so unheard of and, you know, crazy. It was just one of those things that you probably never see something like that again. And it's not a play, but it happened

kind of during a play, so I counted it. Next one is just the Jamar Chase Christmas Massacre. Is there a certain play? Like, I think the play where in the second half, he just, there was a busted play. Like, that's the one I'll remember. Yeah. It's like, are you serious? Like, cover this guy. the third and 36 that he converted down the sideline. Oh yeah, that was a great one too. But so far, I mean, we've had two championship week massacres back-to-back years.

We had Camara with 50, and now Jamar Chase with 50, and I think those are kind of probably going to stick with me for a while, right? The next one I have is Justin Herbert's launch versus the Giants. I had that one as well. Like the 65-yard bomb to, I think it was Guyton? It was Jalen Guyton, I think. Then I have Mack Jones throwing the ball three times, first the bills on Monday Night Football and winning.

Oh, that's a good one. That is good. And, yeah, Josh Allen threw 30 times, and they won, Pat's won 1410. That's all I got. Those are the four things that come to my brain. What do you guys have? I'm going to be completely honest with you, Craig. And this is not, like, saying you did a bad job, but, like, I don't remember what particular throw you're talking about when it comes to, like, Herbert.

Because he made so many big, big throws. Like, there was so many throws where I was like, holy shit. He rolled out right and threw 55 yards in the air, but it was, like, diagonal. So it really went 67. But that's the point. It was, like, whatever. I was to whatever play. And then the only other ones I thought,

the bigger place from this year were like kicks. It was Justin Tucker's record setting kick, which is cool. But honestly, more of it, unless you're a Ravens fan, it's a fun fact. You're not going to watch the kick.

And to be honest, you know what I mean? I forgot all about that. Like, I actually read about that not long ago and I didn't put it on this list because I was like, one,

I can't tell you how far it was. I forgot. I forgot. It was 66. It was cool because it hit the crossbar, bounced up, came back in. But still,

like, I don't think, in the spirit of, rewatchable. Not going back to watch a kick. It's not a rewatchable play for record setting kick. The other one that I thought

was actually interesting. The best moment of the year, the best game of the year, was still Patriots bucks and that coming down to that kick, which also that Patriots kick was short. But I think that was one of the bigger plays of the year was the New England

going for the kick to beat the bucks. But again, even that's not a rewatchable play. I had some of these other plays. Honestly, the lions beating the Vikings on that last second play, it's really weird. Yeah, that was pretty funny. Yeah.

This year had more water. Walk off games than any other NFL season. I think there were three dozen games this year where the game ended on the final play of the year. And yet, not one of them even approaches as cool of an ending as like the Hail Murray from last year. Like none of these games were that cool.

I really don't think there was a truly rewatchable play this year at all, honestly. Yeah. Here's, so I completely agree with you. It's a bad movie here. That happens. Yeah. It was just like there was no iconic one iconic.

It was that year the Shape of Water one. Best picture. That was a terrible movie. Well, no, because even that one over, like, Get Out, which is just like a travesty. Yeah, but that year in general is a nightmare. It's 2017. But that's the point, though.

It was like a bad movie, or this was a bad highlight year. Yeah. There were a lot of, like, good highlights. There was not one great moment, and I think there matches they're not one great team. Here's what, here are my nominees here, and I guess this exactly, like,

validates what you guys were saying is, number one, Carson Wentz's left-handed pick six. You know what I'm talking about? Where he, like, he was in the pocket, backed up into the head zone, switched hands. That's good. And then threw a fix-6 with his left hand.

That was funny. Number two, Big Ben falling down as he tried to throw a two-yard pass. Yeah, that's good. Basically, it looked like he got sniped. And that one to me is just like, that was the most, the most memeable play of the year. Okay. And then this one is dumb, but I remember it very vividly,

the double punt by Michael Dixon. which is like a punt. Like are we talking about was that this year? I can't even remember. I can't even remember honestly. I actually think Craig's right. At the risk of living in the moment

because this was a week ago, I do think like a few years from now. The Antonio Brown walkoff like with the shirtless thing will actually be the thing people remember the most as crazy it is to say. It's way more memorable

and like or rewatchable than Justin Tucker, you know. Like a Hall of M wide receiver took off his uniform and left in the middle of the game. Yeah. That will be the moment.

You'll see that the most for the rest of your life. Can we disagree? It's D.K. Metcalfe's Chase Down. We're still, it's that again. Yeah. He's rolling over the award. All right. What's age the best? This one's self-explanatory.

I have here, Danny Hyvitz's don't draft Seekwan narrative. That aged pretty well. I had that too. I had that too. It's like the Sopranos. It's over. Find a new show.

Way to go there. Hyvitz. I have D.K. McCaff's foursome situation. That aged really well. Wait, but no, did it age well?

because he like didn't catch a touchdown for like two months after that. No, it's, it's aged beautifully. We're gonna look back. Every day I wake up, it gets funnier. I love it. Okay, that's fair. Okay, so this one here, I couldn't tell if this was a what's age of the worst or what's age the best, but I think I've decided on it aging the best. Urban Meyer's 10 year on the Jags.

I have that as what's the age of the worst along with our Jaguars optimism as aging the worst. When we, I think I'm going to love this. Like, I love what happened, you know? You're galaxy braiding yourself. This was the worst. This was the worst thing that's ever happened. But we all thought this was going to happen and then it happened. So didn't it age well?

Well, the Urban Meyer takes aged well. Urban Meyer aged very poorly. I mean, honestly, Urban Meyer, I mean, sure. The Urban Meyer takes aged well, yes. Except that R takes aged poorly because you convinced us to be in on the Jaguars this year, which age also aged poorly. It was like one week in mid-July. Yeah, the week before people were drafting in the Kool-Aid.

And we convinced people to try. draft these Jaguars. It was a very important week. I hadn't done my research yet. I was just listening to Urban. You had to do your own research. That's the problem. God damn it. Next one here, I have the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. Our guys, Mike Williams and Markey's Brown, the resurgence. That aged quite well for D.K. and I. Markies Brown and Mike Williams, top 20 guys this year.

I like it. Not bad. And then... Sure. Lastly, I have the decision in fantasy to utilize the COVID-Illiver. our spot in fantasy, I thought, has been a game changer in fantasy this year. It has so many teams. That's a great one. That's a really good one, actually. I didn't think of that, but that's an excellent one point.

What do you guys have? I have to, I have a, I don't, I think this is number, I think this is the winner. Nothing has aged better than O'Dell Beckham's dad complaining about Baker Mayfield. I mean, think about how prescient that was in hindsight. It was all the hashtags, everyone's like, oh man, including me, I was like, oh, well, they made the playoffs last year.

Literally, that is the last time we all, like, anyone was willing to defend Baker. Yeah. Yeah, and he doesn't, oh, no, it's like five touchdowns. We haven't seen the full game yet for the Rams today, but doesn't he have like five touchdowns in five or six weeks since becoming a ram? He almost has as many touchdowns with the Rams this year as he did with the Browns in three years. Also, and relatedly, also, I think it aged really well that the Browns did not give Baker a big contract before the year. Yeah, true. Although there was a report that came out before the game.

that they're going to run it back next year with them, which I think, you know, could change for sure, but we'll see. What else you got, high fits? New England's offseason aged really well. I mean, we were all very critical of, like, them throwing a bunch of money at all these free agents and giving out all this guaranteed money, and it seemed like they were just like the jealous X who like Brady goes and wins the Super Bowl. So they're like, oh, I'm going to like lose to 20 pounds and get hot on it, and like spent all this money. And like, it all worked. And like, they're back in the playoffs. and I mean, Mac Jones picking him in the draft,

cutting Cam Newton, making Mac Jones the starter. Like Bill Belichick, if he's not coach of the year, GM of the year, like, aged perfectly. Yeah, I think Mac Jones falling to the Patriots is maybe what has aged the best. So Belichick's decision making has aged well. Everything the Patriots did this offseason aged, like fine wine. I don't know, I guess not,

because I don't know if wine age isn't like less than a year, but whatever age isn't less than a year. D.K., what do you got? All right, so I got a couple here. I kind of went with it from sort of like the literal angle, like what of our takes aged well and didn't age well. All right. So here's a few that aged well for us, I think.

Number one, touting the Rams offense with Matt Stafford has aged very well. Cooper Cup just put up an all-time great season. So I think that alone. Like obviously we like Robert Woods too. It wasn't as good as we'd hoped with Woods and he got hurt. But Cooper Cup, like literal all-time season. And by the way, as we record, it's the second quarter in the Rams game. He has five catches for 84 yards.

he's having another big game. Yeah. My gut call or bold call that DeAndre Swift might be an RB1. It didn't end up being full season RB1, but when he was healthy, he was an RB1, so that was pretty exciting. I like that DK is just making this about his takes that have aged nicely.

I know, Dick is just like which of my takes is like age. This is how we did it last year. When I listened to, when I listened to our pod from last year, it was which of our takes aged well and which of them didn't age well. Obviously, we're going to get to the ones that didn't age so well. Just tooting our own horn here, guys.

come on. High fits not trusting Sequin. Huge. Very good win for Hyfitts, not Craig and I particularly. Our plan to chase the volume with Najee Harris. Yeah. Aged really well. R.B4. And then our take, and this is not necessarily us saying this, but it was more just like reading the tea leaves that Echler was going to have the Alvin Camara role. Aged really well. He actually finished with like an Alvin Camara season. So I thought those were all some good preseason takes from us. You know what else is AIDS as well? Is my take that Kyle Pitts would be fine. Yeah, that's fair.

In fantasy, sure, yeah. He was fine. I mean, he did have like a historic tight end season, but that's fine. You know? I do agree with you. He was like a little expensive based on where you drafted him.

It was fine, yeah. Can I give you this a take? I think my Mike Davis take aged well in the fact that I think half the people who had Mike Davis ended up getting Corderole Patterson and that those people are thrilled. Oh, wow.

The people who didn't get Cordial Patterson are very mad. It was like happy action. head and like, if I were to audit our emails and our Twitter ads, I would say that you're probably incorrect. Highfits, with that take ageing. No? Well, it's just the Patterson people don't email because they're not mad. All right. What stage is the worst? What stage is the worst? I think this is number one. I don't know you guys, wait, hold up. I have like a handful of things for which age the best. I literally have like 20 things for what's age the worst. All right. I'll just do a couple here for me and

then I'll let you guys run. I think this is honestly the number one. of the season for fantasy and for real-life football. The Jamar Chase can't catch narrative because the football doesn't have white stripes on it like it doesn't college. Right, right. That's nothing, yeah, that one, that was, that one's going to go down as an all-time.

All-time, which is the worst. Like, this is an all-time, don't read practice reports thing, right? Yeah, do you think that... Just don't, like, that's the lesson. With, you know, not only that Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase back-to-back seasons, do you guys think that whoever the top, DK, do you know, who's the top wide receiver rookie

coming out of the draft right now? Do you know? Oh, there's like a couple. You know, Traylon Burks, Garrett Wilson, a couple different guys. It could be a number of like five or different, five different guys or so. Do you think we're going to just inflate their value

inherently because of what Jefferson and Chase have done? Probably, yeah. But also this class, I think, is going to be really good. So it's like, you know, we'll get deep into this during the outseason, like this upcoming draft class on the show. but like I think this could be another really good receiver year. We could have multiple first rounders. We could have guys that come in and like immediately produce.

So we're for sure going to have a couple misses, I think, going into next year because we get a little too excited about them. But I do think there is a chance, again, that a rookie could have a really great year. I mean, look at what Waddle's done. Devante Smith. In addition to Jemar Chase, who set, you know, all-time rookie record, like Waddle and Smith both put up, I think Waddle's over 1,000 yards now. Smith over 900 yards. both of those guys had really good seasons. Amon Ra had another big day today, a touchdown.

So I think we will probably have some misses, for sure, because we get too excited about some guys. But I think we have to shoot for some of these guys, too, because if I had to bet right now, I bet a couple of rookies will have big seasons next year in fantasy. My next one here is every rookie quarterback in fantasy. None of them were relevant. Yep.

That's a good one. That's a good one. Fields was toyed with us. Trail Lance, like, didn't. I mean, Traylons was an afterthought. He was like an after-after-thought. Yeah, Mac Jones was fine in real-life football, but not a fantasy player. Zach Wilson and Trevor Lawrence were terrible.

I mean, coming off Herbert and Burrow, we were all, people were, we ranked Herbert. I mean, Lawrence like 13th, 14th overall this year? Yeah. I think if they, whatever the Niners do with Jimmy, I think Traylands could be available at a huge discount. Next year we'll see. But I mean, obviously, if Tray Lance plays, I do still think the running and everything could be really interesting.

And I just, I think Tray Lance is going to be one of the more interesting players going in it. Well, maybe not more interesting. but could be one of the more crucial fantasy pendulum swing players. Taysam Hill West is what I call him. Taysam Hill West. All right, next I got here,

investing your money in elite first round running backs. Aged quite terribly this year. If you go through it, here are the elite six or five that people would have. First round fantasy draft, to be clear. McCaffrey, disaster. Dalvin Cook, he was the RB 15. I would consider that a pretty big loss.

Not to mention that even if you made it to the championship with him. He got you like two points. And he sucked. Yeah, Derek Henry, who was obviously awesome, but got hurt halfway through. Camara was hurt,

not a top 10 guy this year. And then weirdly Zeke finished as the RB6, maybe the ugliest RB6 ever. Purely attrition. He needed a week 18, like fake game on Saturday to get to a thousand yards. Right.

So, I don't know. Maybe I'm going to start. Put it this way. Put it this way. Well, sorry. I actually have something on Zeke later, but I think I'm going to start playing fantasy moneyball.

I actually just watched Moneyball. recently, so I'm all into that. Like, I'm, I'm not spending money on Jason Gianbi. I'm not spending $65 on fucking Dalvin Cook. I'm getting Tony Pollard's, A.J. Dillan's, for Nets. That's what I'm doing. That worked especially well this season, though, because of injuries. Like, do you think that's going to work every season?

I'm just going to draft three of them, for four of them, for $12 each. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I want to, I have to, I think this is a really good conversation, but we have to counter it with something else that aged the worst, because the obvious answer what you're saying is, Well, the first round running backs weren't great. But so what's the answer, right? Like take receivers and other things. Let me tell you.

Here's another thing that age the worst. Borderline elite wide receivers. Because the top tier like, oh, Devonti, Tyrie Kiel, right, they're good. Diggs was solid. The borderline elite guys, Justin Jefferson was an amazing hit. All the other ones that you were drafted in the second or third round. D. Andre Hopkins. Calvin Ridley.

D.K. Metcalfe. I don't care what his final year thing was. He was a disappointment. AJ Brown, Terry McLaurin, Alan Robinson were busts, devastating. Obviously, certain guys got hurt, Calvin really had a step away. Like, that's unpredictable. But overall, if you took a receiver in the second or third round, and it wasn't like a Devonthe or someone, you were probably very disappointed.

And I think that is a very interesting tandem with the fact there were also out on the first round running backs. Like, who are you supposed to take up top? Just don't draft for the first two years. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, don't draft. It's the zero player. The zero player strategy.

I'm going to figure out, I'm going to add a rule where you can trade down. I'm going to trade my first for two-fourths. This is why Dynasty is so good. It's because you can trade down in the startup. You can trade down in the rookie draft. You can do whatever you want. That's for another day. I have a couple of things that age worse unless you have more, Craig.

No, go ahead. Antonio Brown's vaccine card. Did not age well. Did not age well. I mean, it was never, I wouldn't say that anyone ever thought that was a good thing. Well, originally when it was deemed authentic, it was aging properly. Yeah. I think I have Cam Newton yelling, I'm back.

Did not age very well? That did not age well. That's tough. Yeah. Even Cam, like, what's Cam doing there? I don't know what he's up to. I think Russell Wilson rehabbing 19 hours a day did not age well either. Oh, that's a good one.

Yeah. That one did not work out. The Julio Jones trade, I don't think aged 50. well. We'll see about the playoffs. Seriously. He did have a touchdown today for the first time in like 480 days or something ridiculous. And then again, I know he skipped those, but the Jaguars and Urban Meyer, was this the most embarrassing coaching tenure of our lifetime? It's so bad, man. It was a disaster literally the entire time and it lasted like four months.

And also, can we talk about they won today? They beat the Colts. Yeah, crazy game. And Lawrence had a good game. Yeah. Trevor Lawrence looked great. Like the defense held, I think they held him to a little. 11 points. It was great. Great game from them. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. There's something weird in my brain. I think I'm galaxy braiding it where I think it aged well. I think Urban's 10 years aged well. I think the way that you frame it, you can put it in either of these categories, but that's fine. I got a few here. Hyphids, are you through or do you want to, do you have a few more? No, no, that's it.

I mean, Mike Davis, without obviously Mike Davis also aged poorly, but no, that's all I got. Okay. I'm glad that you said that. Thank you for saying that. My first one was Jemar Chase's thinking drops mattered was that was that was obvious. I think that would be the biggest one by far for me. My early season excitement over Rondale Moore after he had two pretty good games the first two weeks and then did absolutely jack shit the rest of the season. That was tough for me. D.K. was starting to say some real hyperbolic shit

about Rondale Moore. We were like in like... That was like one time. That was like one podcast. Let me live. I'm admitting it. Come on. I went overboard.

Rondale or Jamar? I don't know. Yeah. I regret it, Craig. There's things that were said. that I wish I could have back. There's nothing wrong with it. You know, the cliche,

he wishes he could have that throwback. I wish I could have that comment. I wish High Fitz never would ask me that fucking question. I wish I wasn't wearing this fucking shirt. Wish I wasn't wearing this fucking shirt. My bold call of picking Rojo over Fournet, that didn't age very well. I'm going to step on picking nits for a second,

but if Ronald Jones didn't fumble in week one, would Ronald Jones have been like a top eight fantasy running back? That's like, alternate reality. Fornet is like greasing Rojo's gloves. Exactly. I really don't think so because, yeah, he's just not very good.

It turns out. This is not something necessarily that we said, but like I think there was one show where Craig and I were like, I kind of like buying the Sam Darnold thing. Yeah. Oh, me too. Oh, yeah, that's going to.

The Panthers. Yeah, I was in on the Panthers. That actually aged really poorly. Yeah, I bet on his over for the yards. That didn't work. Yeah, the Panthers, everything the Panthers, did this year aged poorly.

Yeah. Yeah. So Sam Darnold being back after they went three and O the first three weeks and he had like five rushing touchdowns in the first three weeks. We were all excited.

And then he literally was like maybe the worst quarterback among all like 55 quarterbacks that threw a pass this year. Yes. Yeah. You got anything else? No, that's it.

Okay. I want to add. I think of, oh no, I thought you were, we were trying to figure a winner. I want to add just before we do one more, what's age the best?

like biologically, Cam Acres is Achilles tendon. He's back. He's playing right now. Cam Acres tore his Achilles in August. And he's playing football right now. It's January 9th. He has three carries. It looks bad.

That's so weird. But that's how you know it's fine. It looked bad. It's been less than five months. He's back. Has it looked bad? I haven't really been watching this game. No, he's saying the injury looked bad

because he tore his Achilles. Well, here's the deal. Hyphins, I thought Haifin said the Acres looked bad. Oh, did you say that? Regardless. No, no, I'm saying the injury. Yeah, the injury looked bad. So he's back.

Okay, okay. So I was going to say, because if you guys look at the Rams, those half time right now for the Rams 49ers, full disclosure, we're like doing this while the games are on. Sonya Michelle has 12 carries for 11 yards. Not great. Acres has three carries for three yards. So that's better than Michelle in terms of average.

Just slightly. All right. So for the winner here of what's age to the worst, it has to be Jamar Chase 100% we bought into that like ever so slightly we obviously weren't completely

out on Chase but like the fact that we like we did people were paying him like the wide receiver equivalent of Trent Richardson like in early August right yeah and then he sets the record

for receiving I think that's a good one Jamar Chase can't catch that's hilarious yeah okay casting what ifs things that could have been if injuries didn't occur or trade didn't happen my number one is just like how good

could the Rams have been if Cam Acres never towards Achilles and if Robert Woods never towards ACL? Because they had O'Dell, like just, would they be the best offense in the league right now by far?

And would they be the NFC front runners or the NFL front runners if they were just completely healthy and firing? Alternatively, what if they'd never traded for Stafford? What would that offense look like?

What if I said they'd be exactly the same in terms of record with both of those things? Then I'd say that you're dumb. With Acres and Woods and Stafford, they're still, you know,

13 and 4. I actually don't really think Kim Acres matters in this equation to be honest. I don't think Acres is that big of a deal. I think Stafford is a big deal. I think Wood's a big deal too. I'd be lying to myself if I was like Stafford changed his team's outlook. Like, oh, what?

He's a better quarterback than Goff like for sure. But he also cost them a couple games too, if we're being honest. Matt Stafford lost them a couple games. Matt Stafford through like basically there were two different games where the Rams were down 14-0 in the first quarter

in prime time because of Stafford. they're going to tie for the best record in the league I mean yeah you take the bad with the good here he made their ceiling is so much higher I'm okay I'm not I'm not questioning

Stafford is a much better quarter than Jared Gough sure sounds like you are questioning that I'm just saying what sounds like from my point of view that's fine okay then happens what do you have you have any casting what is

I have two the first is injury related to it's what if Derek Henry had not gotten hurt can I tell you guys something nuts entering this week, because we're doing this in middle of Sunday, we don't have the stats yet, but entering the final week of the season,

Derek Henry ranks sixth in rushing yards. I had that in half-hast internet research. Sixth? Derek Henry ranks six. There are five, he has not played since Halloween, and he has sixth in rushing yards and tied for six in rushing touchdowns.

That is crazy. It is fucking nuts that that is true. I also think, I had, I mean, this is also in most unanswerable question for me, but it could be casting what if. could he have won the MVP? I think he might have in this week year because like I think he actually

it's the only running back like Jonathan Taylor to me was never going to win MVP because like at least in my mind because the offensive line's really good in Tennessee I think the difference is like their identity as a team is Derek Henry and has been for years

and it's like he had more yards in eight games than Zeke did in 16 well and not to mention that like it's hard to give an MVP to a team that doesn't make the playoffs I mean the Titans are one seed yeah I don't know it's it. Well, this is the argument though.

They're the one seed without him for half the year. That's the flip plan is right? Like they went down and did it anyway for two months. But anyway, I just want to throw some Derek Cadbury stuff out. He would have been the first running back to, he could have been the first running back to ever reach 2,000 yards twice. Oh, that would have been fun. Did you guys know that right now at the season's end,

I guess not counting today, but through 17 weeks, he is currently the 14th best scoring running back on the season. Derek, in the same. I also think just like him coming back for the playoffs, actually the Titans can beat anyone. Yeah. It's going to be very, they're the most interesting,

they're the most interesting boring team in the playoffs because they're the number one seed. They're getting A.J. Brown, Julio's back and healthy. Derek Henry's coming back. They somehow managed to lock up home field. They have a first round buy. Yeah, they have the March madnessness to them

where they talk about, you know, the team getting hot. You just want to be healthy and hot at the right time. This is Tennessee's time. They're the ugly team. They drag you down to their level. be with experience. That's the Titans.

I have one other casting what if... What if the Niners took Mac Jones at number three? Yeah. Yeah, that was one of mine. Because they definitely

traded up to that spot with that attention and then changed their mind. And it's like, does Mac play over Jimmy J? Do the Bears take Tray Lance or Fields? And then obviously do the Patriots

take a quarterback at all? There's like so many questions. Yeah, are the Patriots in the playoffs? Are the Patriots good? Like, is Cam Newton still the start of the Patriots and everyone's like,

what is Belichick doing? There's a world where the Patriots are underperforming with the same team. I think it's a real legit sliding doors. Yeah, the quarterback carousel every year, I think is like the biggest impact X factor thing in any season, any given season. And that's a great one. Like what if the 14aires had taken Mac Jones? You know, like you said, Patriots probably wouldn't have even had a quarterback, a rookie quarterback in that case. So,

yeah, very interesting. And I wonder if Kyle Shanahan is up every night thinking about this. I don't, I, like, I kind of, like, my instinct, my first instinct is, like, he, Mac Jones would probably be on the bench, just like, Trey Lance has been on the bench all year. Like, I think, like, Shanahan really came in thinking, like, we're just going to play Jimmy because he gives us the best chance to win right now. Yeah. I don't know. That's just my instinct. Who knows? What do you have, D.K.?

All right. So, I got a couple here. What would Washington's offense have looked like if Ryan Fitzpatrick hadn't dislocated his hip? And this is, like, more from a fancy point of view, like, would McLauren have been a wider, receiver one, for instance. Would Gibson have been better? Gibson did actually really well. But would that offense would have been more explosive.

What if the Bengals had taken Penae Sewell instead of Jamar Chase? I think that's an interesting. Would they be a playoff team even if they'd taken Sewell? There would have been no Christmas massacre, that's for sure. You don't think Penae Sewell would have gone off for 266 yards? I think you could argue, well, I mean, obviously you can argue. I think Chase had a much bigger impact on the offense and made them so much better than Sewell could have.

Yeah, I mean, I think Burroughs still hit, like, I think he's one of the most hit quarterbacks in the league this year, and he's just getting pummeled day and day out. But you're still probably right, but they need to do something about it quick because the poor guys hurt every other game. I know, seriously. I had what, and this is, again, this is the quarterback carousel thing.

What if the Panthers or Broncos that take in Mack Jones or Justin Fields? Like, would those two teams be played? off teams, potentially. Which team do you guys think is the closest to being really good if they get the right quarterback? Is it Pittsburgh or Denver? I think it's Denver.

Pittsburgh. Well, both of them really. The Denver, I mean, it's the same thing, though, like with both. Like, right? I mean, you got great defense, good skill players and a black hole quarterback. The Broncos, I believe I saw the stat. We're had one of the best three defenses by points per game allowed. And they're so good.

They're actually the first team in 30 years to be top three in points per game allowed and not make the play out. or sorry, be below 500. Wow. 30 years. Wow. I mean, that's a team. And then you're like, oh, what about the offense?

Like, Jerry Judy, Sutton, Giovante, a decent offensive line. You're like, how does it? They really, that team is primed to make a leap. They get a quarterback. And they fired Fangio today. Yeah. Yeah.

So the defense, we'll take a step back. The Steelers and the Broncos to me are like the perfect, uh, advertisement for why teams should, they need to sell the farm to get a quarterback. you can have a good roster everywhere except for quarterback and just suck.

I know that Steelers are going to the playoffs now, likely. But like, I don't know. Quarterback is just the most important position in sports and it's just so, that just hammers it home to me so much. They have pretty much everything else set up to win. They just had such terrible quarterback play. The Broncos in particular. There's just no way they could compete in that division.

This is a Joey Pants Award. And so for people who don't know what this means, it's named after Joe Pantiliano, who's an actor, where every time you see him in a movie you don't know his name, but you go, oh, that guy, I know that guy. So it's the Joey Pants Award for the biggest that guy.

So in fantasy terms, we're attributing this to the random player who took off where you're like, wait, him? I think this year, so I think there's two ways to think about it. I like to think about it in full season form, which I think is Corderole Patterson. It has to be.

Has to be. 30-year-old kick returner. You're like, he's the what? That guy? Wait, what number is he in the backfield? But for one game, I think it's Mike White. Oh, yeah. Mike White set the wall down fire.

But you don't know who that guy is. He was random. I think Mike White's Vincent Hanna. Mike White's the gimmee all you, right? Vincent Hanna, like, he's the overacting. And it's like Mike White will never do that ever again. Well, yeah, Vincent Hanna, though, I thought it was more like they did it kind of off and on, like all year. They would give you good performances, but they're not actually good.

but yes. It wouldn't be the rewatchables if we were confused about, if we were not confused about the categories. You have to be confused about the categories. That's so you keep

authentic to the form. My favorite thing is when we bring on a guest to the rewatchables who's like doesn't work at the ringer and Bill tries to explain to them what Apex Mountain means.

And even who won the movie gets pretty confusing. But it's always, it's always great. I think it has to be Cordial Patterson. Like I get, it's like,

the decay at the beginning of this pod was like, oh yeah, that doesn't look weird to me. Just to zoom out for a second. Quarrel Patterson is a freaking kick returner in his 30s at a position where Todd Gurley, who's four years his junior,

literally is out of football. He's a 30-year-old kick-returner who is like the most kickoff return touchdowns all the all time and like beat all of his season career highs for rushing and receiving yards at like week nine. And was a top eight running back through eight weeks of the season.

Corderole Patterson. Yeah. It's a season we'll be. talking about forever. He was a top eight at the end of the entire season. He was eight. He did not yet. He tailed off for the end of the fantasy season, so you're not going to, you don't have the

great taste in your mouth at the end. But realistically, he was literally a better than Zika Elliott really was. I mean, he was the MVP, I would say the MVP of the first half of the season. Yes. Yes. I think that's exactly true. I think that like, if you're not counting like Cooper Cup or Debo, like he's, I think it's got to be Corderole Pedersen.

Also, because you knew he was. He's that guy. You're like, oh, quarter all, I've been hearing about this for use. I have a random one to throw into the pile here Okay Dalton Schultz Oh Who finished as the tight end four

That is a that guy He's literally like Who's this guy scoring touchdowns every week For the Cowboys Who's this guy? Like every week it was like double digit points For this guy Yeah

And it's like we were so excited About the Cowboys offense You know Zeke Pollard Cidi Amari even Gallup Like Jarwin had like way better Dalton Shultz. Like PR than him too.

Dalton Shultz is perfect because the defining characteristic of the Joy Pants Award is you can't remember his name. So if somebody where you got like friends are at a bar and they're like oh yeah the Cowboys tight end had a pretty good year.

They're like what's that guy's name? Uh, something. Dalton Shultz. That's a good point. That's very fair. All right. Vincent Hanna, give me all you got award for overacting

which is who is fools gold. Kind of crazy over the top plays but isn't actually good. Every year that Taysam Hill starts at quarterback, it has to be Tassam Hill. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. Well, he's not any good. Here's the problem. You're not any good. Happy. Don't work? Yeah, where there's one problem? They're not any good. I saw the

finger page you made, brought home, and they suck. Yeah. You keep wanting to be a quarterback. Here's the problem. You aren't any good. Sorry, I'm just picture. the girlfriend telling off. Speaking for the intercom, there's one problem, Tase him. You aren't any good. Oh, man.

Sorry, Hyphins. I also want to, no, I want to throw out that, you know, you're right. I want to throw out Mike, you mentioned Mike White. I also got to throw out Josh Johnson for a second here. Oh. Josh Johnson made two starts this year

for two different teams. Which, I mean, how often does that happen? On brand. Josh Johnson, one for the Jets, one for the Ravens, averaged 22 fantasy points per start, which would be ahead of like literally every quarterback except like Josh Allen and Herbert.

Kind of, depending on your scoring. I just want to throw that out. That's insane. Also, I hate to do this, but like, could it be Mike Williams? I mean, had like three 30-point games and then fucking disappeared. Oh, you know what, aged really poorly? We missed this. Mike Williams is Michael Thomas.

Yeah. Did not age well. Turns out he's not. I actually think Mike White should be the guy because Mike White was a phenomenon for like eight days. I got him in a different category. I think that does make sense.

Here's a couple of I threw out here. Carson Wentz. He finished as a QB15, had a couple of big weeks. He's not any good. Wait, do you know what I had written down? I wrote down the stat because we have a thing coming up later for what is it.

It's just like half-hast internet research. Carson Wentz coming into today was going to be the first quarterback in NFL history to play eight road games and have zero interceptions. And then today he throws interceptions until the Colts like missed the playoffs.

It's kind of worst case an error for the Colts because Carson played 75% of the snaps so they had to give the pickaway and then they still didn't make the playoffs. Yeah. And they were good enough to win

in the playoffs. Are they out for short? Isn't there like a, is there some sort of loophole still if they tie or something? Oh, maybe. If they make the, yeah, depending on the outcome

of the games that we're not watching, yes. But regardless, it's not great. they got blown up by the Jagger. Maybe that's already over.

I could be wrong. I think maybe they're already around. Who knows? No, it's still possible. Depends on... All right. Carson Wenton, then Taylor Heineke for Washington.

Oh, yeah. He had a couple of big games. He's just not very good. I'm sorry. That's it. I think that's fair considering. Wait, Heineke's thing was in January of 2021

last year. So, like, that was after we did the episode last year. So that's important enough for Heineke. Oh, right. Yeah, when he almost beat the bucks. Yeah. All right, Dion Wader's Award

for Biggest Heat Check. On our show, that's the best waiver wire guy of the year. So I got a couple nominees here. There's actually a lot. I mean, it could be, and it honestly probably is Cordorale Patterson, but I like to think of it as in a smaller chunk,

you know, somebody who helped you in a short period of time, perhaps the playoff. I think Joey Pants is like a random guy who went off who's like waivers. And I think Dion Waiters, in the spirit of the Dion Waders Award, I don't think it's a full season person. It's who does a lot with a little. Yes, and I think there's only two people that should really be in contentioned person.

I think it's Amon-Ross, St. Brown, and Rashad Penny. I can, yes. Oh, Penny. I mean, he was the, Rashad Penny was the number one running back in fantasy football from weeks 14 to 17, which is smack dab playoff time. And Amon Ra, the last five weeks of the season,

was the third highest scoring wide receiver behind Cooper Cup and Devante Adams. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. And they were on the waivers. If you had a Monra, you picked up Devonte Adams off waivers

for the final, for the fantasy stretch. I mean, I think those two guys are undeniably the Deon Waders guys. Oh, it'd be interesting to see, how many teams won the finals with Penny and Amon Ra in their starting lineup? So if I had to pick one winner

and I'm not being biased here, the only reason I would pick Rashad Penny is because wide receivers are easier to come by. It's really hard to find like an elite running back. And like there's a million wide receivers who are solid enough to like put up decent numbers. Rashad Penny being the number one running back

in fantasy for four weeks is pretty ridiculous off the waiver wire. I mean, that does not. happened too much. That's a good one. It's a really good one. I also jotted down Elijah Mitchell. He too, yeah. Yeah. He got hurt too much, but yeah, he was good. While he was healthy, he was an RB2.

Not the RB2 and RB2. So that's like solid. But I think your guys' arguments definitely convince me. I think we give it to Penny or Amon Ra-Hyphids, you break the tie. I'm going, well, I guess that's not a tie if I'm picking Penny, but do you agree with Penny? Somehow the Seahawks in San Diego State

contingent is outvoted me. I would go Amon Ra. But I think that the quorum has always been a Rashad Penny podcast, I guess. I mean, we gotta give it to him. Come on. Let's do it. How's he doing right now?

Hold on. Quick shit. He's doing well. 59 yards. All right. 11 rushes at a half. That's good. I think Amonra being better

than Devante Adams from week 13 on in PPR is like to me the answer. I mean, Rashopenni is better than every single running back. Jonathan Taylor, Kamara, Naji Harris, what have you. Anyway, recasting couch.

Who should be on a different team? team. Last year that was the Al Robinson Award. Is this who should be on a team going forward? Just kind of bold. I should have this before the show. It's kind of both. I love that we don't know the categories. It's kind of just like, who should be on a different team? You know? I chose shout out Odell Beckham for recasting himself in real life.

This is like what... That's good. It's like what an actor... The rare real life recasting couch. An actor like backs out of a movie, is like, I'm not doing this. Yeah. They've already filmed like half of it. I'm not doing this. O'Del

Think about that Odell's dad Just recast his son He's like you know It'd be better Los Angeles Quay Leonard kind of does that too He's just like

I'm in his leave I think I mean Trevor Lawrence I feel like He's the first thing That comes to mind For somebody He should be a different team

We have no idea If he's good or not On this calamity That was the Urban Meyer season Great one And then I actually have a little Tweek to the category Ben Rathusberger

Shouldn't be on any team So that's not really Recasting That's fair You know, honestly, I went through this. There wasn't a guy where I was like, free him. Like, it was really just more like these guys need another place. It was more like I look at Denver, and I don't want to move the Denver guys.

We just have to get Denver a quarterback. Yeah, like Judy, right? You're like, you want Judy to have somebody who can throw them football. Yeah, all those guys would be unbelievable if they just had a quarterback. But the reality is, like, Rogers, I don't, my actual twist on this is that Rogers should not be recasted. Aaron Rogers should stay in Green Bay. Yeah, I think I agree with that. I don't think there's really a better spot he could go.

It's like maybe like Pittsburgh or Denver, but like, they're the best team in the leagues. Doing all right where he is. Yeah, it's probably when he is. You're just the first team to ever win 13 games three years in a row and give the number one seat in the conference. I don't know, but it goes somewhere. Go for it.

I've like started to come around to this idea. Like obviously we've talked about this all season, but I think Rogers ends up staying. And on January 9th at 255 Pacific time, I think Russell's going to end up staying in Seattle too. Wow. That's going to like take two things. off the board and we'll just be like talking about like

Minchu, Marriota, Carr, you know, Fitzpatrick, lesser names. I think those, like the two big chips are just going to start, two big pieces of are going to just stay put. Well, that's no fun. We'll see. We'll see. I know, I know.

Craig, I'm surprised you didn't say Chase Claypool. Well, the thing is, is like... Indirectly you did. But it's the same thing that Haifett said about Judy, where I'll just wait till next year. Like, I don't want him to leave. I guess he could have been on a different team this year, but if we got to be a different team this year, but if we got a quarter, if we get Kirk Cousins next year, I think Claypool will be really good.

Yeah. Oh, Cousins, that's a good one. He's already coming around to my Kirk Cousins. Look at Craig. I saw Ben noodle that fourth and eight to Ray Ray MacLeod somehow get the first down. God, what are we doing? He's the definition of a noodle arm, dude. I can't believe how doubt the Steelers are probably going to make the playoffs,

barring a tie tonight, and still it's just like, God, this team sucks. At least, I know, I don't know who we're going to play, like maybe the Chiefs or some shit, but it won't be as bad as last. playoffs, this is all gravy. We were down 28 to 0 in the first. You could try. To Cleveland, a division opponent last year, like, if Mahomes

kills us, who cares? Do you guys have any other recasting catch? No. I was just going to say, get DJ more on another team. I just feel bad for the guy. He's just like, he's doing the Allen Robinson thing throughout his career in terms of who the quarterbacks he's playing with and stuff.

Get him a better quarterback. But you know what's a great sign? All of our things, except for Trevor Lawrence, are basically, we want these skill players to have a good quarterback. I think it's really good that we're not upset that certain good quarterbacks are not getting enough help. Like last year, we were like, Burroughs going to get killed, all these things. And in reality, a lot of the good promising quarterbacks have found good situations now. And like Lawrence will see.

Yeah, that's a good point. All right, half-fast internet research. Most of myself was Derek Henry related. And I also wanted to point out that Todd Gurley is 26 years old and was not signed by a single team this year. And I wanted to bring up the bet between the two of you. what was that again? So the bet was... He can be like 50 to 1 odds or 100 odds.

I gave D.K. 30 to 1 odds that Todd Gurley would play again in the NFL. We can go back and see if it was another down or like a signing. So I'll do this right now. Since we did say forever, like I was like ever again. Correct. I'm not going to concede because it has been one year. However, I will offer D.K. an out right now and be like, if you want me to vend...

I will donate to a charity of your choice. give you 10 to 1 odds right now if you want to 10 to 1 pay out. How much money was it? Or you can roll it over for the 30. How much money was it? I think we did 10 bucks. So we'll, I'll donate 100 bucks.

So I'll, I'll, I'll donate 100 to charity. I'd like to go check the tape if you actually said ever. Definitely. That's why I was so shocked. Also, I mean, he's not, he didn't get signed this year.

Like what? Dude, if, yeah, if like the corpse of Levian Bell and like all these other players are like getting signed and he didn't get even like, I didn't even see a guy. I think that Gurley might, there's a chance that it might need a year to adjust to the fact. that he is being even asked to do that role, right?

Like, I think that sometimes you kind of need a reality check. And, like, in his mind, like, if he can still be a starter, he might not want to just be like, hey, we're assigned you to be on the practice squad. Todd Gurley, former offensive player of the year. I'm not a doctor, obviously. But to me, there's something that doesn't make sense in my brain that Cam Acres can tear as Achilles and return to football five months later. And Todd Gurley has tendonitis and he's done.

I don't know. The point is D.K. is right. I think that we, like, obviously, I was wrong. wrong, but like, yeah, I'm pretty stunned that Ty Grillies just did not play this year. That's kind of crazy. He's 26. All right. What else you guys got for half-fast internet research?

I got one. Okay. Go for it. The New York Giants Oh, God. Final tally. For the final two minutes of the first half. Opponents, 79 points scored. New York Giants,

zero. I will say that again. The Giants in the final two minutes of the first half outscored 79 to 0. Can I interrupt you real quick? Why are you so obsessed with the final two hat? Like, they scored the fewest touchdowns in game in the full game. Like, their offense fucking sucked is all you have to say.

Like, why do we care about the two minutes? Like, their offense was the fucking worst in the NFL by far. Because it's a good tweet, DK. 79 to zero looks good. No, I think you don't get the obsession with the last two minutes. One, no, because teams focus on it. It's a point of emphasis in coaching. Like you try to end the half.

Like touchdowns? It's about control. It's about control of the game. And like, even Tom Brady, one of the main cast. And it was like, the most important thing to me is the final four minutes of the first half, final two minutes of the first half,

number one, not letting the opponent score. And number two, us scoring, getting the ball back on the other side of half time. He was like, that's aside from the literal end of the game, that's what I think about most. And the, like he's saying this as the Giants are getting wrecked. Then I also think it,

just think about this for a first. moment. That's only 34 minutes. Can you imagine 79 to 0 in a full game? And then basically they got outscored 79 to 0 in a 34 minute period. That's insane. Yeah, it's not great. I just, I don't know. I think the

fact that they literally can't score touchdowns is like more prominent. But I definitely get what you're saying. Their offense is atrocious. I saw another stat high fits. They signed Kenny Galladay to whatever it was, $30, $40 million guaranteed. And drafted Cadarious Sony in the

round and got zero touchdowns from that duo this year. It's, it's... You know who I want to be on a different team? Cadarius Tony. That's who I'd like to retest. Yeah, seriously. I want Golodeon on a different team too while we're at it. Get everyone... The Giants should not be an NFL team anymore. Disband the Giants. Relegate them.

They literally, I mean, the quarterback sneaks on second and third down today. Oh my. Has that ever happened? Has the league ever gotten smaller? I feel like it only expands, right? Like you add the Las Vegas Golden Knights and everybody, they draft a players from every team. I wanted to go the opposite way with the Giants disbands. It's just too many teams.

And then all those players put on waivers. Oh, that'd be good. I just, the thing about the sneaking is that they weren't close enough to the goal line. Like they were at the four.

It's not the one, okay? It was the four yard line. Right, right. You're that worried about losing four yards? Well, yeah. I don't know why you don't run the ball.

I don't understand. Why don't you hand the ball off? I don't get that. Anyway, that's my half test internet research. Or like, if you're going to keep sneak, like, you know that the, like, the maximum yardage you can get from a QB speak

is, like, maybe three. And what was it, third nine? But this is the special teams coach and Joe judge being, like, well, we got to get the pun off, right? Because we got to get, there can't be the problem with the punt. Yeah. Or are you just playing to lose. That's playing to not lose by an embarrassing amount. Who gives the shit if the punt gets blocked at this point? Like, you know what I mean?

The special teams coach cares. I just, it's embarrassing. They're playing to not, to not lose by an embarrassing amount. I understand why in a, in a vacuum, the special teams coach cares about this, but like if they got a punt blocked in the end zone, people would be like, oh, that sucks. Now, because they snuck it on second and third down, everyone's going to talk about this all offseason.

And the other thing about it was it was even a normal QB sneak. It was they were in victory formation. It was like they lined up like they were kneeling to end the game and then they snuck it in. Yeah, it's like, by the way, hey, defense, we're going to sneak just so you know. It's, it's, I don't know. I can't explain it. It's the biggest, it's the most cowardly thing I've ever seen. It's not a thing that happens in professional football.

It's just not. I think that's the best way to explain it. All right. High Fitz, I'll let you off from your Giants rant again with some other stats here. Boston Scott of the Eagles scored seven rushing touchdowns.

Sorry, I put these stats together before last night, so I can't remember if he was even playing last night. I don't think he played, but this is through 17 weeks, which was the fact-of-famacy season. Right, 16 games. Boston Scott scored seven rushing touchdown.

this year on 87 carries. That was more in the first 16 weeks than Dalvin Cook, Antonio Gibson, Alvin Camara, DeAndi Joyce, Clyde Edwards-Helair, Miles Gaskin, Mike Davis, Chase Edmonds, Christian McCaffrey, and Seekwon Barkley. He scored more touchdowns than all those

superstar running backs. Moneyball. That I think is a good example of just like how fucking weird this season was for running backs. Like, it's just bizarre. Can I, you know what I want to suggest? Maybe I'll offer this. I want to sacrifice my draft picks

for more free agent money. Like, you don't have... Trade it for Fab. Yeah, you don't get a... If you give up your first round pick and it's now in 11... If you're in a 12-team league, now it's 11 picks,

you get $30 in Fab. Whatever, $40 in Fab. I'd rather have that. Here's a couple others. And again, this is like... To me, this was just good representation of the season. Javante Williams and Melvin Garden

finished the season with exactly 203 carries each. Wow. It was like split. Exactly. down the middle. That's a very good one. Hunter Renfro went, this is, again, this is before the Raiders played this week, so this is through 16 weeks. And by the way, it's like, contextually, this just makes more sense to our brains. Hunter Renfro went over 1,000 yards

to see you guys. I didn't actually realize that. I know that he's been good. He went over a thousand. You know who didn't? Mike Evans, Terry McLaurin, D.K. Metcalfe, A.J. Brown, Amari Cooper, Adam Thielen. Obviously, I know those guys were head injuries, but like, I feel like Renfro going for a thousand is a pretty goddamn impressive milestone. Like he was legit good. By the way, Kyle Pitts also went over a thousand.

And also, small caveat, Evans may go over a thousand this week. I can't remember, but this is again through the 16 weeks. And like, DeAndre Hopkins didn't, but he got hurt,

but he wasn't even close to 100,000-yard base. Right, right. Wow. Jerry Judy scored zero touchdowns this year. So, yeah, those are some of my, I just thought, like,

just kind of like our frustrations this year in fantasy. Yeah. All right. Apex Mountain. This is the most nebulous category that we have. Who is having their career year both professionally and personally is kind of how it works. The tough part about this is that if the player is young, they can have more, every year they can be rebranded as now being in their apex. Right.

So like, I would give it to Joe Burrow right now. Joe Burrow. Oh, really? No way. Oh, I don't think. I think he's going to continue to ascend. He went undefeated. He won the Heisman trophy and went undefeated 15-0 for to win the national championship at LSU like two years ago.

That was, that's more apex than he is now. Then, then him bringing Cincinnati to win the AFC North when they were last in odds. He's now, the most. Yeah, they're going to lose in the division around in like three weeks. Well, we don't know that. He's, I don't know, coming off two back-to-back, 450-yard games. He beat Patrick Mahomes. Burrow also is one of the most beloved athletes in the league

is could be going down as one of the greatest Cincinnati athletes of all time. I feel like Burrow has really like set himself up. He's trending up in his NFL career, but like Apex Mountain in terms of like when do they have like maximum juice influence pizzazz or whatever. Yeah, juice. It's like he it's definitely after they won the LSU National Championship more than right now. We're in the big leagues now. I don't know. No. I think here's why so the way that I look at this

category is like the way that like Simmons and everybody on the rewatchables talks about it, it's like this was their best year in their career. Looking back at Tom Hanks, this was his apex mountain season, like year. Well, it's, it's when did they have the most like pull offset and onset, right? Like it's like when could they make any movie they wanted? When could they, you know, it's just like kind of when they're peaking in every way. So the reason in the NFL, but I think LSU personally. I would say if Burrow ends up winning like a Super Bowl, then he will be higher than he is now. Don't you think? The real answer is this is a very bad time for us to have this conversation.

Oh, like right before the playoffs. But yeah, yeah, like before whatever happens to the Bengals and the Bengals, no matter what happens, they're going to go to the offices and the Bengals are going to be the darling team entering next year, like no matter what. So he's going to be juiced up. But I think when I think a eight-pics mount, I think more like Cooper Cup. Yeah, go. Oh, sure. No, Cooper, let's do Cooper Cup now. Cooper Cup probably undeniably, yes. Yeah, I think it's easy. Can I toss one controversy and one at you? Mm-hmm.

What about Aaron Rogers? This is a good one. It's tough because, like, obviously, professionally... It's because he won the Super Bowl one year. He's nails. I think there's enough, like, controversy over his, like, off-field stuff, all the commentary on, you know, the pandemic and everything. Like, there's enough people that, like, don't like him.

I don't know. It's just one of those things. It's weird. Maybe it is good that... Maybe that means he is the most famous. It almost seems like he's the happiest he's ever been, and he's the most comfortable with what's going on. He's won MVP and a Super Bowl in the same year,

so unless he wins the Super Bowl this year, I don't really think it could be Apix Mountain for him. If he does, though, do you think it is? Because he's going to win the Ombique again. No, because he's pieced off a lot of people. Like, in what way is this his best year? Yeah, but if he comes here and wins the Super Bowl, it might be for him.

He thinks he's like changing the culture right now. Yeah. Okay, but is he? Well, that's not for me to decide. Well, we're... I just think he just has to win a Super Bowl for this to be his apex mountain. Yeah, you know, I don't know.

I just feel like, if you ask Aaron, I think there's a chance that he's like, yeah, it's my best. It's my best year. Oh, okay. Like, is that how they do the rewatchables? They're like, oh, let's ask, I don't know, random actor X

if this is their apex mountain. Hyvitz is extremely salty about these. Like, let him imagine it. I think this is like, I just, I'm surprised. I mean, look, we're talking about sponsors pulled out of putting Aaron Rogers on television this year. I just, you know what I mean? It's hard to do Apix Mountain.

That's why I said controversial, you know? Yeah, I agree. Is there any reason it's not Cooper Cup, though? Like, it's Cooper Cup, right? Yeah, I mean, we don't have to have one of these. We can have a million. Multiple people, it's, it's, is this there at Pex Mountain? We don't have to decide on one person. I, with that, with that segue, Hyfitz, I put Mike White. Like, that's a great one. That's fantastic. Like that two game stretch, Hyphitz is literally trying to convince me.

that the Jets should just keep starting Mike White and let, like, Zach Wilson sit on the bench. I mean, come on. I was. Well, half of that was because I think the Jets did a really bad job of preparing Zach Wilson and that I was afraid of him, like, developing bad habits because they just didn't put him

in a position to succeed this year. Yeah. I know, you didn't say this high fits, but I think there was at least discussions on message boards, like, oh, what do we do with Zach Wilson now? Do we trade him? Blah, blah, blah. Like, that's aggressive.

I guess what I'm saying is, like, the fact that Jets didn't have a veteran quarterback to, like, mentor Zach Wilson it was like an egregious error. Yeah. But that era didn't live very long. Here's one more I got for you. Cover two defense.

That's a great one. The cover two defense is fucking everyone up. And I'm sick of it. NFL's going to figure out how to attack these cover two defenses next year, hopefully, because for fantasy, it's better for us. And yeah, cover two, had itself a year. Corderole Patterson. Perfect.

Definitely apex for quarter of, definitely a picture cover too. I want to throw out Jonathan Taylor? Yeah. Yeah, in his young career, absolutely. T.J. Watt? Yeah, you just tied the sack record. Nick Sabin quarterbacks in the NFL.

I think Mack Jones's rookie year is already the best season any Nick Saban quarterbacks like ever had. Who else is up there? Who else do we even have? It's a small list. It's like A.J. McCarran. Yeah, Greg McElroy.

The Bama guys are bad. Jalen Hurts and Mac. I think Matt Jones's pretty good. You have to go back to like Tony Banks at Michigan State. It's just not a good list. What about Hertz? Was Mac Jones's year better than Jalen Hertz? I might say, I don't know.

I might pick Jalen Hertz over Mac right now if I'm trying to win a game. Yeah, that's interesting. It's tough. Yeah. Either way. Do you want to do anti-Apex Mountains with the opposite? Oh, yeah, but you called it Death Valley.

Which is great name. I think this is Death Valley. We have to add a category here. It's like Death Valley. It's the, it's who's having their worst year personally, professionally, and I think that's Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer almost died in like 2014 and I think this year was worse.

Yeah. I got one. Jackson Mahomes? Yes. It's nothing great. Here's one. The act of gathering and chanting on your opponent's logo pregame

shortly before getting your ass kicked. history of that ever? Does anyone ever done that before? I don't know, I just think it was funny because like in a two two week period, it was like a big deal and both teams lost. The Raiders and I think the Titans. Well, I also thought you were referencing Jackson Mahomes dancing on the Sean Taylor's number after they were on every Sean Taylor, which wasn't really his fault.

Dancing on logos. While we're doing Death Valley, honestly, Washington's October, it's really hard to pick up the worst month in the history of the Washington franchise, but I just got to throw all this out there in October for Washington, they were raided by the DEA for like actual crimes at their headquarters. And it wasn't one of the five worst things that happened to them this year. There were six, the 650,000 emails like from that investigation, the Gruden emails were leaked. That whole thing happened. And then the Washington employees delivered, hand delivered this letter

of the owner's meeting about the sexual sexual harassment culture at Washington, begging the owners deducing about it. And then Washington organizes the Sean Taylor Memorial to distract from the bad headlines. They notify Sean Taylor's family like five days in advance. Put the Sean Taylor Way sign, rename a road right in front of the porta-potties. And then Jackson Mahomes does his TikTok dance right

on top of Taylor's number. That was in like 10 days. That's brutal. He hit the woe on it. D.K., do you think you could hit the wall? I don't know what that means. It's a dance movie. I'll send you it. Yeah. Okay. I'll practice. Also, while we're in Death Valley, I think we got to throw out

Robinson. Wow. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that definitely fits. I was just also, we already did this, but the Giants running on sneaks on second and third down, that was the ultimate Death Valley. Yeah, the New York. That was the low point of the franchise.

Is this, I have this written down, is this Death Valley for the New York Giants? Yes, 100%. And I know that I'm hyperbolic and in the moment, I am not at all being hyperbolic here. I, my grandmother who has since passed, but she told. me two years ago, that she had been watching the Giants for 70 years, and that this was, without a doubt, the worst the team had ever been. That was... Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That was in year one of Jason Garrett. Like, think about that. That was before the season. And, like, that's someone who's missed, like, single-digit games in, like, decades. This is, from people who've seen

those teams, worse than the Joe Pizarre Giants. The Giants are one of the original four or five teams in the NFL, and this is the worst point in their entire history. What about Big Ben? They're not to make the playoffs. He was set out as a hero. Yeah. I would disagree with that one, yeah. Last year was worse for him.

They were 12 and 4. Not because of him. I know, but they were 12 and 0. I don't know. That's hard. Steelers fans are way happier with Ben Rothesberger right now than they were a year ago, including you. Cam Newton?

Yeah, I guess so. I feel like this should be like not just people at the end of their career though I feel like I feel like God this person really hit rock bottom I think well then the peak Carol Russell Wilson Seahawks End of an era

that era of the TV over Feels like it Well if you What about I mean maybe this is Apex Mountain But quarterback finger injuries I feel like Yeah Yeah seriously

A lot of mallet finger in 2021 Too much Malt Finger They need more of those the foam they put on top of the helmets for the players to not get hit when they fall through on the pass and they hit the helmet they even more. Yeah, yeah.

All right, let's move on to picking nets here. I think last year, the only thing we had was refs and COVID. And does anybody have anything else this year? I had Camara just maybe scoring four touchdowns instead of six. Seven.

Isn't it seven? Just three or four would have been five. Then that six fucking touchdown game that I'm not upset about. still, clearly. My picking nits is that I think COVID messed up the 2021 fantasy playoffs, actually more than it messed up the

fantasy playoffs in 2020. It definitely did. Amicron. You're talking about 100, like, Omicron hit the end. I mean, look, there's actual problems in the world, but this is a fantasy pod. A hundred players

tested positive for COVID in a three-day span in mid-December. And like, the amount of good players that didn't get to play in the playoffs, like, realistically, COVID did swing a lot of matchups. I mean, you're talking about Travis Kelsey, Austin Echler, Jill, Waddle like Tyler Lockett. Like if you won, you

won, you had to pay attention to it. But the reality is a lot of the playoffs were swung because of how this went and just the timing of how everything happened in December. A lot of fraudulent fantasy winners of this year. No, no, no, no, no, no, frauds. No. I disagree. Yeah, we... Your trophy is fake. Chase. We had a lot of... So, obviously, I asked

you guys, like, you know, is it luck or skill that people won in fantasy this year? We had a lot of emails, and the emails convinced me, like, it's definitely skill still. Like, a lot of the waiver wire pickups that we were touting ended up helping people win championships. Like, obviously, you have to work for these. It's how you define skill, right?

It's who is the most attentive and vigilant this year. Yeah, well, you get, no, luck is more important than skill. Like, let's be real, but the skill is you're maximizing your chances, but it's still chance. I think that the difference this year is that there was more opportunity on the waiver wire in ways that actually won you your league.

Again, Rashad Penny, number one running back on the stretch. Amman Rassin-Saint-Brown, number two or three receiver down the stretch depending on account. I mean, Justin Jackson, number one running back on the week or something. Rex Burke had being a top three guy. I don't know if that was COVID necessarily,

but there were so many opportunities on waiver more so than other seasons that blew your opponents out of the water in addition to the normal, completely random stuff that happens every year. Yeah. You got any other nits to pick? So I did the Alvin Kamara not scoring six touchdowns last year.

And so my knit to pick this year was, could the Saints have started anyone but fucking Ian Book in week 17? Or whatever it was, week 16. Why do you care? Because Camara had like eight points that game. And that cost me another chance of the championship. So Camara has been like the bane of my existence last two seasons for opposite reasons. And it's because Ian Book refused to check down.

Just decided to take like nine sacks in that game instead of throwing it to Camara. I hate Ian Book, and I always will. I have a lot of Nits to pick with, like, really boring pedestrian offenses who refuse to use their talented skill players. Yes. You know. Can I still pick Nits with Joe Judge for quarterback sneaking it on second down on the wrong goal line?

Like, that's a goal line play. He used at his own goal line. He's like 96 yards where he's supposed to quarterback's just. Just a small thing. Yeah. Just one small request. In victory formation? That's going to go down.

That's going to go down. That's going to go down in history. We're going to talk about this for years. Why are you putting more people in the place where you're trying to go up the middle? Why wouldn't you have receivers out there? It's bad. I don't know. Okay.

Next category. Could this be remade as a Netflix series? It was a 10 episode Netflix series. So I wanted to, I'm picking one part of the season that I think would make for a fantastic, probably a comedy at this point, Netflix series. I think just Urban. Urban and Jacksonville for a 10 episode series. Succession vibe.

And I was thinking, who would play Urban? I was trying to figure out. who would play Urban. I think I got a pretty good one. Let me know what you guys think. Matthew McConaughey. Oh, man. Yeah, I love that too.

It's a workplace comedy though. When he's older. I think he would nail it. The Haggard, weathered McConaughey from when he's like older and true detective. The opening episode starts with him walking into the first Jacksonville press conference and saying is bullshit.

I think that it's like, I think that you're right. And it's like we, like, it's a workplace comedy. but we tell Matthew McConaughey that it's like going to it's like a really yeah it's a drama

the guys on the ringer NFL show had the guys on the ringer NFL show had a like a weekly segment just called Urban Decay that's a good name for it actually yeah you guys have anything else for that I got one

that like three week period during Giants training camp when all the veterans retired rather than playing for Joe Judge can make that into like a little mini series about like training camp and we could have like a curb your enthusiasm vibe to it

that one I think would be entertaining and then Craig you already shouted this one out but DK Metcalf's attempted for some oh you might 10 episode Netflix series about that is that a Netflix or like entourage vibes is that on OnlyFant?

I was gonna say yeah what service was like late like only HBO late 90 anymore anything else HyFitz you got me this steps on the next category. Best quote? Yeah. Okay, well, best quote,

Best Soundbite from the year, moment, press conference, whatever. I have Rogers. I still own you to Chicago. I almost think you could watch all the Aaron Rogers press conferences from start to finish this year as a Netflix series

and there's like a plot and the story arc and everything. Oh, that's definitely true. I think, you know what the best part is, though? Shaley Willie can play herself. You know what, yeah. You know what the best part is that Aaron Rogers' first press conference of the year, including us, we're like, this is the coolest

press conference I've ever seen. There's all this drama around his Rogers is going to play this year. Is he going to get traded? Is he going to retire? What's the deal? And he shows up on day one. And we're like, that's the most honest press conference I've ever seen. He told us exactly what he thinks. And then like two months later, we're like, oh, he kind of lied, didn't he? And it's like, the fact that I just, it's a perfect plot twist. It's like in Game of Thrones, when you're like, you know, you think you like a character early in the character arc and then you end up not liking him

versus like Jamie Lannister where he's like this guy's a fucking prick and then by the end of the series you'd love him. Yeah. Very deep, good character building there. Rogers, I mean, the John Wick Halloween costume, the immunization comment,

all the Pat McAfee interviews, I think him desperately wishing he was on the Joe Rogan pod. Literally, I actually think the quote of the year is not a quote. It's him sticking his foot up to the camera to prove that he didn't have COVID toe. COVID toe. Yeah.

And like I think that is actually my favorite quote of the year. It's just that screenshot. How about we do like a White Lotus crossover? We're him, Shaline and Miles Teller in Hawaii, but it's White Lotus, you know? Because playing his ukulele. He can work at the hotel. That's a good one. Dan Campbell biting kneecaps, anyone?

How has no one mentioned this yet? Oh, yeah. Do you guys want me to read it back to you? Do you remember it? No, go ahead. I forgot about that. I do remember it. So he goes, so this team is going to be built on.

We're going to kick you in the teeth, right? When you punch us back, we're going to smile at you. And when you knock us down, we're going to get up on the way up. We're going to bite a kneecap off, all right? We're going to stand up and we're going to take two more shots to knock us down. And on the way up, we're going to take your other kneecap. And we're going to keep, sorry, and we're going to get up. It's going to take another three shots to get us down.

And when we do, we're going to take another hunk out of you. You know what that reminds me of? But he's like, you know, and then we're going to take another recap. You know what reminds me of us in the other guys When he's like if you were a tuna And I were a lion I'd swim in the middle of the ocean And he'd like oh yeah Well then lions can't swim

We would eat you and then we'd go back For greeting apparatus So we'd come back and maybe we get an hour hour 45 It's so elaborate I'm like oh my god Also I just love that One more Dan Campbell thing

His coffee order Oh that's a great one I look I have it here He goes Normally what I do is I get two venty At Starbucks I get two venty of the pike With two shots in them

So black and both. That's what I come in with. That's how I start the day. What did we decide? That was like eight or ten ounces. Basically eight or ten. It's 40 ounces of black coffee and four shots of espresso. Before like eight a.m.

What an absolute legend. Running on fucking crude oil, jet fuel. All right. What piece of memorabilia would you keep? Wait, hold on. I have to shout at a couple more quotes. Oh, all right, all right. did you guys see the Jamal Williams quote about leaving the Packers for the Lions and be like the lions like oh no like like

oh yeah but then you find another girl like they're feeding me good like yeah yeah yeah I love that was really good that was he did me good the other one is just shout out urban Meyer when they were like how do you feel about this player playing more snaps and he's like yeah happy with they're in the rotation they had zero snaps that day yeah also when they asked urban about the USC job and the versus when they asked Tomlin about the USC job? It's like a real life side by side. Yeah. I also have to shout out, one, just the Manning cast as a quote.

Like every Manning cast quote was like to me better than the games. Eli Manning giving the middle fingers I thought was incredible. And then also T.Y. Hilton, the cult's receiver. He was like, he almost retired this year. And they're like, what did you do? He's like, yeah, I talked to Andrew Luck. That was probably the wrong thing to do. Oh.

That was incredible. That's funny. I don't remember that one. They're friends. That's good, though. Um, all right, anybody have any else? Yeah, no. All right, what piece of memorabilia would you keep from the 2021 season?

I got to say, it'd be pretty legendary to have Antonio Brown's fake Vax card. Oh, that would fetch a pretty penny. Right? I think that's, uh, I was in Columbus, Ohio, and I went to Urban Myers Pine House, and I wish I'd gotten a T-shirt. Well, you can go do that. I still can. I also want all the prescription painkillers the DEA took from the Washington football

team rate. Oh, Jesus. The DEA. I don't think my house have like a big gumball machine. Oh,

that's fun. Percocet, Viking and what are you going to get? Exactly. All right. What do you want, D.K.?

I have a couple. The railing at FedEx Field. Is it still FedEx Field? I don't even remember. At Washington's home field that collapsed and almost killed everyone. What are you going to do with it?

Put it in your house? Hang it on the wall. Dangerous. This one's actually not a real thing, but I think it would be funny if it was, is Kurt Cousins Plexiglass

the Plexiglass box from meetings which didn't end up working by the way yeah an NFT of Ben Rathesberger's

week 17 passing chart this was again this was last week not this week if you guys look at his passing chart it was like

how many passes did he throw like 46 and he had like 100 something yards I think it was like he had 45 passes for 120 yards yeah

it was was like literally the worst worst passing performance of all time based on like attempts and yards. I would like Aaron Rogers' Atlas Shrugged book. I'm also willing to wager a lot of money that he has not read that book.

I also I want Tom Brady's 600th touchdown pass. It's apparently you can get a pretty penny for that. Okay, yeah. You're really trying to make money. At least I'll take the Bitcoin that he got that got the guy traded. it for.

The Bitcoin that Mac Jones gave to his teammates. Oh, yeah. The memorabilia category, really, that was a winner. We added that this year. We didn't do that last year. Probably unanswerable questions. My big one was could Derek Henry have won the MVP? We talked about that earlier.

Do you guys have any? Yeah, I wonder how much of Baker-Mayfield season was because he was hurt, or is he just bad? And I think that a lot of this all-season for Cleveland's going to revolve around answering that question. Yeah. We talked about most of mine already, but what if Russell Wilson hadn't gotten mallet finger? I mean, I think their season probably wouldn't have been a whole lot different, but they're probably like 8 and 9 and 8. Yeah, they would have eked out a few more wins.

What if the Jags had hired literally anyone besides Irvin Meyer? How different the season would have been? Yeah. And then what if Adam Schefter had decided to simply not tweet about DeVurgeon once a week the entire season? that's a question I have. I know what you're talking about. Everyone who I've convinced to get the push notifications knows. People, like, the first few times people tweeted about this practice squad player called D Virgin. It was like moderately funny the first few times.

Adam Schaefter has been tweeting about D Virgin all season long. There's nothing worse than when somebody in their late 40s figures out that the internet kind of likes something. No, the internet kind of likes funny sexual. jokes. And you're 50 years old. His last name is virgin. That's the joke. That's it.

It's pretty good though. You know? All right. Just move on. That's all I'm asking. And you got any other hyphids? Yeah, and it'll come back to me. Okay.

Last category. Who won the movie, aka who won the year in fantasy? I think it has to be Cooper Cup. Yeah. I agree. So ESPN, Tristan Cockroft. at ESPN has a great stat every year.

He writes an article about like the players who run the most teams. He doesn't write about the title winners. He just writes about the championship matchups because the first two, the teams to make the championships. One of every two fantasy championships, one of the two teams had Cooper Cup. Wow. Wow. Basically half of the championships on the ESPN

platform, Cooper Cup was playing in the final. So can I read a couple stats about Cup? I actually got most of this from Peter Stranger. I was talking about his case for MVP on Bill's Pod. But, So Cooper Cup is likely going to win the Triple Crown, which is you lead the league and catches yards and touchdowns. This will be the only of the fourth time in NFL history that somebody has done that.

First time since 2005. He's the first player in the NFL with 125 catches, 1,500 yards and 15 touchdowns. And again, this is all before this 17th game is playing. He's had over 95 receiving yards in 15 games. And he's done it in 12 straight. Both of those are NFL records. 21 more catches than the next guy,

320 more receiving yards than the next guy and two more touchdowns than the next guy. I mean, what a random blowup. Ridiculous. This is the most... I mean, last year, Camara was our winner of the year. It was like, oh, cool, first on running back. Like, Cooper Cup was like a fourth or fifth round pick

and fantasy, and not even the first receiver taken on his team in drafts most of the time. Crazy. Yeah. It an insane year. Do you think he... This is going to be the question we asked all off-season long,

so like, you know, this is just going to be something we talk about. But like, is this like you are fading him going forward now? Because he's never going to be able to recreate what he can do, what he did this year. Like he's going to be like a top 10 pick, top five pick maybe going forward. Is that going to be paying too much? You're paying for what he did last year. Or do you think this is something where it's like in reality he might be able to have another all-time season next year? I think the argument would be like, what if he's like Stefan Diggs this year?

Where Stefan Dix is so good last year you draft him. And like, he's good. he's not bad. He just might not be like a top five receiver again, which is like what Diggs was. I think realistically, you're going to want Cooper. Cooper Cup will be the first receiver taken next year,

and Cooper Cup will probably deliver on that. Not in Devante Adams-esque way, but like, maybe. He's like, well, he's going to be top five, and we're reasonably confident he'll be a top five or 10 receiver with like maybe just number one rider receiver overall, like five of the 18 weeks.

If Rogers comes back to Green Bay with Devante, I think it'll be a conversation between the two of them, and that'll be it. They'll think they'll be in a tier of their own. I agree. what were you going to say for your unanswerable question ivitz can't remember oh sorry it slipped my mind for a moment i i had i i'll have two for the unanswerable i was going to say first what happened to the fantasy playoffs of that omicron i just think that that's going to stick

with a lot of people who lost because like you have travis kelsey and austin necler and they're just out and you didn't get justin jackson i think that's going to stick in people's craw the other one is just what happened with the cover two thing why did it work so well is the answer just like team like why did this shut down so many teams I know there's like real football answers

our own Ben Solek is a video series on this that you should check out that people are trying to answer this and yet why didn't work so well cover two is not a new defense you guys I just don't get it

this is it a new concept like it's been explained to me by smart people and it's sure I can put on my intellectual capital I get it I actually it's still like a little hard for me to fathom well I what's funny is it it's hard to fathom that this is so effective

but it's actually quite easy to explain which is what baffles me and you're just like oh yeah you put two guys up top so they can't really throw deep and you're like oh okay I think the hard part to explain is the hard part to wrap your mind around is the idea that taking what the defense gives you

is unnatural for some of these more aggressive quarterbacks. It's a mental hurdle. I think that's the hard part. Patience. And the millennial brain and the Gen Z brain. I know. It's like on one hand, it's like very simple.

It's like you throw one guy back there. It's harder for you to throw it deep. Check down. But like the actual reality is like, oh, generational psychology, the impact of World War II. boomers and then blah, blah, like, you know what I mean?

Like, you could like go so. You can write a share of the GDP. General compared to when the boomers were the same age. Yeah. Smartphones. It's like somebody telling me Craig. Capitalism. Craig, you'll be smarter if you just read a book at night

instead of look at TikTok. And I'm like, I still can't do that. Yeah. Unanswerable question. If Patrick Mahomes's brother were not on TikTok and Patrick Mooms didn't have to waste his time watching his brother's TikTok, do you think that he would learn to check down?

more effectively. Maybe we need to get Jackson Mahomes to start promoting that on his TikTok, you know? Start doing dances about checking down. Oh, no, yeah, yeah, just like explaining how to check down. The checkdown.

Do the checkdown. Do the checkdown. Don't let Adam Schaefter get a hold of that joke. All right, well, that'll do it. That's the 2021 fantasy rewatchables. Thank you to D.K., thank you to Danny Hyfitz. And thank you

to, I mean, the one who makes this all possible. Lorne. Lorne. Thank you, Lauren. Thank you, Rod Stewart. Oh, Rod Stewart. Who's your, what's your, are you, are you, are you, Rod Stewart solo, or the faces, Rod Stewart? I don't know.

I don't have, I don't really have a preference, probably solo. Okay. Just curious. The faces are really good. A lot of good songs. Oh, I'll have to look into that. Shout up my friend last. I don't know,

I don't know, Ryan's right that well, to be totally honest. Who is, Pavitz? My friend Matt Van Dini, huge fan of Rod Stewart. Yeah,

Maggie May is a really good song. Check out the faces. Good voice on Rod. Raspi. Good voice on Rod. Good voice on Rod. What a voice, Rod.

All right, we will see you guys on Thursday's new format for the playoffs. We'll start next week. We'll be coming at you Thursdays and Sundays. We'll be doing a betting show. That's very fun.

Worst picks of the week on Thursdays. And then we will still be doing our Sunday night awards after the games. So do not flip that dial, folks. Stick around. Yeah.