The Ringer NFL Show - The 2022 Fantasy Football Take Purge

Episode Date: September 2, 2022

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Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Heifitz, and I I'm joined by two men ready to cleanse their souls, Danny Kelly and Craig Warlbeck. Yeah, it's time. It is time indeed. We spend a lot of time prepping for the football season, for the fantasy football season. We spend a lot of time thinking, researching, prepping. But amidst all this time, there are thoughts that just creep in, these unwanted ideas. Keep you up at night.

They take root, if you will. You know how Taylor Swift is releasing an album called Midnights, all about her midnight thoughts, her midnight songwritings? That's this pod for us. spiritually, yes. But here's the thing. If we don't do anything about these thoughts,

they'll just like subconsciously corrupt us. Yeah. So once a year we have to purge all of these thoughts. We have to purge these takes so that we can just get them out. Just get them out of our system. And it's a safe space. We are free from any consequences.

These takes do not leave the confines of this podcast. We cannot be prosecuted for these takes later. We are the first people to ever watch the purge movies and think of it as a safe space, that's definitely the first. I haven't even seen it. Yeah, neither of it. I think I just understand the concept.

I have seen a couple of the purge ones and you guys haven't. One of these years. One of these years I'm going to watch. It's one of the easier concepts to grasp, so I don't think I need to see it. It's no long for a long time. That makes sense.

Yeah, I get that. So there we go. We're going to start. Oh. Oh, shit. Is that the sign? It's time. It has begun.

An hour of consequence free takes begins. Now, Craig, D.K., who wants to go. first. Craig, you got it. Yeah. Josh Jacobs is going to be pretty good this year. Oh, shit.

Coming in hot. I love that. They got rid of Kenyon Drake. They waved him. They have, like, we got a rookie in Zemir White. We have Amir Abdullah, who's like 30 and a journeyman. And we have Brandon Bolden, who's even older. And we're, like, terrified of what Josh Jacobs is going to do on this office.

Josh Jacobs is 25, really actually good at playing football. Cut over 50 passes last year. And everyone's like, wow, they're the Patriot system, you know? Like, they like to use dual running backs. You know what the Patriot system also doesn't like to use rookies? That's Samir White. Wow. Like, is it that unreasonable that Josh Jacobs has 1,000 yards this year and eight touchdowns

like he has every other fucking year? No. I could actually, it would be very easy to see him scoring like 12 touchdowns. Yeah, dude. By the way, Zemir White has notorious problems with his knees. Like that's the reason he fell a little bit in the draft. Like he had multiple ACL tears in high school and college. It's not great.

I'm not saying he's going to have an ACL tear again, but that is a big concern. The take purge, the take train is already moving. I love it. I'm not letting this happen. No, even the take purge cannot convince him, Josh. He can't make me. He's lower on this guy than anyone. We've been, like, Antonio Gibson might not actually be good at running back.

So I get what we're low on him. Josh Jacobs is good. Like if Josh Jacobs was like on the Colts, he'd be a first rounder. You know what I mean? What? I, I, all right, well,

I, look, Josh Jacobs, it's like, the best case from, it's like, Damian Harris last year. I just like,

it's like, they're gonna play all these guys. Damien Harris at 15 touchdowns last year. That was the best possible. Oh my God. That's a pretty good best case. But he's,

that's still like, he was like a 19th running back. He was the 15th running back. He needed 19, he needed 15 touch. He needed me second in touchdowns just to do that. That's his absolute ceiling. It's,

I think it's well within, I mean, he's literally done it every single year and the only thing that's changed. Kenyon Drake was on the team last year, mind you. The only thing that's changed is that a rookie Zimmer White is here and Josh McDaniels is in and we have no idea what Josh McDaniels is going to do. But you know what teams normally do when they have a good starting running back that's been good the last three years?

They usually just play that guy again. I admit it would be really funny. I'm just, I'm looking at his PFF rushing grades from the last few years. Like 2019, he was second only to Nick Chubb. 20, sorry, 2020, he was 14th and 2020. he was 11th. He's,

he's like a good running back. He's a good player. Well, the Raiders have literally, like, you know how like the Romans used to invade somewhere and they'd like burn the fields?

That's what like Josh McDaniels has done to all the like the Raiders draft picks. I didn't know that the Romans used to do that. Salt the fields. So you can't grow anything else down the line. Yeah. It's a tick purge. I don't have to be correct.

But it's like they salt the fields. That's what the Raiders, like Josh McDaniels has come in. And basically every first round, every draft pick the John Gruden and Mike Mayak had that was not already, cut by John Grun and Mike Mayock. Josh Manjones has just sliced from the roster.

Like they just cut Alex Leatherwood. Like all these guys are gone. Josh Jacobs, like, how is he going to be played more under the guy that did not draft him in the first round? That's kind of what I keep going. He doesn't have to be played more. He just has to be played the same amount as he always has been played. He's going up against two 30-year-old journeyman and a rookie.

I feel like on a different team, we think this was a great spot for a running back. Well, it depends on the platform. We're so low on him that we went lower and then we're like, but it's like depending on your platform he's like ranked like 40th again this will not be reflected in my rankings because this take only lives within this podcast so so there we go that's good point i even the take perch can't get me to do that was that was very good start i have a similar one though okay zeke elliott's going to be a top five running back this year that's actually gonna happen like this is just a fact i'm fuck the take perj i'll just say this like in regular life

like dallas scored the most points of the nfl s season their wide receiver core has been decimated And at no point have we said, do you think Zeke's going to do better this year? Like it's just no one wants them to do good. And we're all like ostriches, like heads in the sand. Like no, no, no, no. It's like, you know Occam's razor? It's like when you hear hoofs think horses, not zebras. People like hear everything about like running.

I've never heard that one. You never heard that? I like that. No, I haven't heard that. But when you hear hoofs, think horses, not see. Like the obvious answer is usually the right one. Tony Pollard is the zebra. Like, what is going on here?

Like, like, I understand. I just, I just feel like Zeke Elliott is so primed to have a solid year. And we just don't want it to be true. But I just, I don't know. Did you hear that what, what Jerry said, like a, I think it was last week or earlier this week. He was basically just reiterating that they go where Zeke go. Zeke is the engine of their offense. Like, this guy is so fucking committed to Zekele Elliott.

Dude, the Jones family thinks that Emmett's, like, Zeke is the reincarnation of Emmett Smith. Like, and I understand. I guess maybe that's why that's what I'm trying to say here. I understand why Zeke is not, like he's a risky bet. We get that. We've been saying that like he's, he has lost a step from his peak. He has had a ton of carries over his career.

He's an injury risk, to be sure. The offensive line is worse. Tony Pollard is there and Tony Pollard's good. You usually don't want to bet on those kinds of running backs. However, Jerry Jones is obsessed with him, as you said, D.K., and the thing no one is mentioning, Zeke Elliott is in the last year of his country to Dallas. Zieg Elliott is probably going to get cut after this year

because financially they just have to do it. Remember the time Levy on Bell didn't fucking show up to play for the Steelers because he was so worried they would give him 400 touches before they had to just let him send him on his way? Like the idea that the cowboys are going to fade out Zique with not that many touches

because he's in the last year. It's the opposite. If they're ever going to feed Zeeke, who cares? It's like his last year. And they'll just give him a ton of touches. I think the, The point is correct.

He's not in the last year of his contract, though. I mean, he's, he's under contract through 2026. He can get out, they can get out of his contract. Yes, that's what I meant. And, like, they kind of have to just because of the way they've backed. Like, there's reason they had to cut Amory Cooper and they're going to have to do that with Zeke. Yeah. Unless he's so good this year.

Is it so sane? Oh, you're crazy. Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind? Possible. Is it? Or is it so sane? possible that your head is spinning

like a top? It can't be. Or is your entire world just crashing down all around? Oh, right, that's enough. Just telling you, man. And by the way, he was pretty good before he hurt his knee last year.

Oh, he's great. You know? 500 yards and five touchdowns. Well, it's so funny how quickly the mood changes, how quickly the wind changes in fantasy football. Last year, Hyphitz, you and I were so in on Zik. And then he had a banged up year,

we were just everyone's like word he's disgusting it's all over it's like leo de caprio the second his girlfriend turns 25 we're like jake's 27 we're good that's it's really we are all like leo decaprio actually now that you say with the running backs that's we should do that next year but dk you made a good point like zik has this PCL injury and played through it ironically zeke's kind of like a marie cooper he gets punished in our perception of him because he plays through injury right because he's tough like if zeke had 500 yards and five touchdowns and then was just out for the season would we be more in on him this year? It's a good point.

I don't know. D.K., what's your take, what's your take, perch here? All right. I'm saying on brand. I'm going for the most on brand thing I could possibly do,

and hopefully I'm going to step on your guys' takes here. George Pickens, wide receiver one. Oh, wide receiver one. Not the wide receiver one. Top 12 wide receiver. Fuck it. So I was actually think about this

when we were talking with Simmons the other day, and he said something along the lines of, like, with the elite wide receivers, you can just tell immediately. like it's just very apparent. George Pickens is ridiculously good. Like, it's very apparent. Every time you watch it play,

all the reports coming out of Pittsburgh. And I think there is a world here where he just immediately leapfrogs to the number one receiver on this team. Like, Deonté Johnson finished as the wide receiver eight. Well, he wouldn't have to leapfrog because there's zero chance Deonti Johnson is healthy for the entire season.

Yeah. Deonti Johnson, by the way, he did finish wide receiver 8 PPR with the corpse of Ben Rothsburg throwing passes. But perhaps because of the corpse of Ben Robles. Well, I don't know. Yes. I think that definitely the style of their offense was part of the reason he had so many catches.

But like, I don't know. I just think this offense can probably like power or like give a wide receiver more targets and yards than we think that they can this year. Make him more, you know, fantasy relevant than we think. I think we're just expecting this offense to be bad, but I think it could be better than we think. And I think Pickens is going to be the wide receiver one. And so going back through the years, last couple of years, rookie receivers have produced. It's a thing now, like, it's not actually all that hot to say that, like,

a wide receiver, or a rookie will finish as a wide receiver one or two. Last year. We keep saying that it's always so confusing. You mean a top 24 receivers. It's not that confusing. It's a little confusing. I disagree. But anyway, last year, three rookie wide receivers finished in the top 24 high fits as

wide receiver ones or twos. Jamar Chase was the wide receiver five overall. Jalen Waddle, the wide receiver 14. And he didn't do like, he was like getting just check down, check down, check down, check down, check down. And he still finished as wide receiver 14. Amon-Raw St. Brown was the wide receiver 24. And as high fits has said many times, like over the second half of the year or like the last seven games or something, Amman Ross St. Brown was like the wide receiver two.

Dose. I think this is, I think George Pickens, I think we should embrace the George Pickens type and just fucking go with it. I'm not like captain high school recruiting, but even I remember when George Pickens was like getting recruited as high schooler. That's the thing. He's always been this good. And like I asked you on, and so like in the NFL draft show why Pickens wasn't being rated as high as the other guys

because he at high school in college, like he was always vaunted to be like this first round guy. And then the ACL tear like all the hype guy. And obviously like there's just questions about it's like off field stuff I guess and maturity. And I mean, it turns out Plotter's Antonio Brown wasn't the most mature person either. apparently like, I don't know. We talked about this with other players.

Like maybe, I don't know what it is, but it's, it's almost underrated how good of a prospect he was coming into the draft. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, totally. He was a five-star guy. You know, he's got the size. He got the length.

He's got the jumping ability, ball skills, everything you want from a receiver position, route running. But I think there's two things that kind of held him back. Number one, he was in like a low volume passing offense at Georgia. Like his numbers, his raw numbers weren't like eye popping or whatever. Like his percentage of the. the team's total passing yards was very strong or whatever. But it's just like he didn't have like the Jamar Chase style season where he's like

scoring 20 touchdowns and doing all that stuff. And number two, the ACL injury definitely derailed his college career. So I think there were those two things weighing on him as he came into the NFL. Plus there was all these like amorphous like I don't know what they were exactly, but teams are apparently worried about the off-field stuff. I remember when I drafted George Pickens in a dynasty rookie draft, someone sent me the picture of him on draft day getting drafted,

whereas he's wearing like the sleeve over his head and he's looking all crazy. And I'm like, is that supposed to like make me feel worse or make me feel better? Because that picture makes me feel better. Like this guy's a little bit crazy. I want that on my team.

You know how you said, D.K., that he just looks like, and how he's talked on the bill, the BS pod, like he just looks like he's one of the best receivers in the league. In the preseason, I don't know if you guys saw that block that he put on somebody,

some corn, he just threw him down. Oh, yeah, he pancaked a guy, yeah. He looks like he feels disrespected to even have to be out there in preseason. He's like, he, like, he catches the ball and he, like, throws. He's like, fuck this. Like, why am I in the, why am I out here right now? No, honestly, it looks like that high school kid. Are you not entertained?

When you're playing high school football and then, like, that really good team comes to town and that one guy on the team, you're like, that's just, he shouldn't be. Like, can we check how old this kid is? Yeah, this is ridiculous. Yeah. It's kind of, what did the Supreme Court say about porn? it's like, you know, it's hard to find. Yeah, you know what you see it.

That's why it assumes. There was two of those bucks. So he was actually famous for basically at the, like, if he is getting pressed at the line of scrimmage at the snap, he just two hand shoves a corner down, like knocks him down. He did that. There was one famous one in college. And then he did it twice in the preseason. There was two different plays.

I mean, this guy is just, he, he is like the definition of like the meme. He's got that dog in him. Like, he just, I just love the way he plays. Like, he's just. so, like, gritty. All right. Top 12 wide receiver George Pickens. I like the D.K. Craig, next take, Perch.

This is the perfect take to piggyback D.K.'s take. Every single rookie this year is going to suck. All the rookie hype, we've been brainwashed by the past two years of Justin Jefferson's and Jamar Chase and Monra St. Brown working out. Everybody worked out. None of these guys are going to do it, especially the deep ones. Isaiah Pacheco is not going to see the field. Dubs is going to be a nobody. Tyquan Thornton's going to suck. Garrett Wilson, none of them.

They're on such worse positions than the other guys than the last two seasons, and I don't think you realize that. Trail on Burke's trying to just replace A.J. Brown in Tennessee. Sure. And like, Garrett Wilson is like buried on the, in the Jets murky, wide receiver depth chart. We have Chris Alave with James Winston and Michael Thomas is now back in front of him. Breeze Hall, again, on the Jets, not starting. George Pickens, you know, he's going to have Mitch Trubiskey thrown to him and he could be third in the Dept chart. Drake London's hurt. James Cook might not start. Yeah, Drake London's hurt. Is Sky Moore going to play? There's three receivers ahead of him right now. Ken Walker's hurt. Also, your beloved Damien Pierce

plays for like the worst offense in the entire league. Exactly. I think we all have rookie fever, and there's a strong chance that all these guys really, really disappoint. If I saw you on the street right now, I'd punch you right in the face. But actually, this is a great take. I mean, there's definitely, this is definitely possible. Like, we have been so overhyped the last couple years. And it's partly because the last couple of years, the last couple draft classes have been so ridiculously good at the wide receiver position. So maybe this isn't just every single year. This is what's going to happen. Drake London's the only guy with like a role where I feel good about it. You know, it's like Justin Jefferson was going in with Kirk Cousins in a clear number two

spot. Like Jamar Chase was connecting with Burrow. It's like, man, Garrett Wilson is like the third guy on the Jets with Joe Flacco and Zach Wilson. Like, you know, Chris Olives, the number two guy behind Michael Thomas. He's got, you know, James Winston throwing to him. I thought you were a Saints guy. I thought you loved the Saints guy. I am. I like the offense in general. And this is a take, purge. I love Chris Olave. But like, I just don't think these guys are in nearly as strong and favorable

as positions as like the rookies of the past two years. And we all really want them to be. I think this is an excellent take from Craig. I have a Saints take, but D.K., if you have any more thoughts on the rookies since, you know, you're the rookie guy here. I mean, I think begrudgingly, this is a great take.

And I think it's something that could definitely happen. So I'm just going to let it. I'm going to let Craig get away with this one this time since it's to take purge. And I won't punch you in the face if I see you in person. This podcast should self-destruct in like two weeks. I should just, yeah, get rid of it. Yeah, when the top, yeah, when Trillenbergs and George Pickens are both just like top 10 receivers in the first three weeks. Okay, I have a Saints take though, since you mentioned Chris Olive. Do it. The Saints will just be better without Sean Payton. Oh, they're just going to be a better team. They'll just be bad. Wow. Because they're not trying to force, what's his face,

take some hill into like a roll? I feel like we all ignored that the Sean Payton was just like, I want a tight end to play quarterback. And like, maybe they'll be better when they don't fucking do that. You know what? They have Andy Dalton as a backup. Maybe that's a superior plan. I'm just saying, like, it's very obvious how Belichick,

the GM has just like completely hamstrung Belichick, the coach. Like, Sean Payton, like the Saints almost made the playoffs last year. James Winston started five and two, got Torres A-C. and then Taysam Hill took over, a tight end playing quarterback. They immediately lost five games. And yet the Saints roster is still so good.

They almost made the playoffs. Here's the thing. I think that Sean Payton retiring, obviously, I'm a big coaching guy. I'm like, I'll never be the guy who's like Tom Brady's more important than Bill Belichick and the diet. You know what I mean? Like coaching matters. However, I think the loss of Sean Payton has kind of overshadowed just like the insanity of what the Saints offense was last year. Tassum Hill.

a tight end throwing to an undrafted wide receiver was his number one receiver and the second most targeted wide receiver was Deonté Hardy who was five foot six he's five foot six Deontay Harris? Yeah no he changed his last name over there. His name is Deonti Harris but yeah he changed last name like they now have at receiver Michael Thomas

Jarvis Landry Chris Olavé plus all the guys from last year all those guys who were like wide receiver four or wide receiver five on a roster caliber are just playing those normal ass positions also James is back. Like they have not lost to the Tom, they have not lost to the Tampa Bay Bucks in the regular season in like five years.

Like I think the Saints win the division and then Sean Payton could just stay on television. Have you guys ever seen what we do in the shadows, the TV show? Yeah. There's a character Colin Robinson who is a energy vampire. And even the other vampires, like the regular vampires or whatever,

every time Colin Robinson walks into a room, they all groan. They're like, oh, God. Like, is he just, I just want to, I just picture everyone in the States, like, locker room or whatever meeting rooms. Every time Sean Payton brought up, like, the fact that Tayson Hill was going to do this, that, or the other, they're all just like, oh, God. Just groaning. Just groans. Sean Payton's like the coach of a little league team.

And he only puts his son into pitch in the playoffs and all the parents like, dude, this guy sucks, man. We can't keep doing this. Also, he just doesn't even have a pitching arm. he just like barely could play center field. Yeah, he's like the smallest kid in the team and his dad plays, bats him at cleanup every game. That's,

I'm telling you, man, the Saints will improve. I can't wait to get to the Fandall read because we're just going to slam that New Orleans future bet. Oh, yes,

we are. Oh, how did we become the Saints, the Happy Saints, like, podcast? We love the Saints. With Tom Brady in the regular season,

the Saints are 4-0 against the bucks, including when Tays-Mills fucking playing quarterback, they beat them 9-0. And the combined score, the combined score of the four regular season games, Saints' bucks, is 117 for the Saints to 53 for Tampa Bay.

Just want to throw that out there. D.K., do you have a take perch? Yeah, so I've done a version of this take during every take purge, so I have to bring it back. Jerry Judy is the third best receiver on his team. Not in the NFL. Damien Harris is the third best

writing back on the best. I stand by it. I stand by it. Actually, I don't. He was definitely better than several other players. Okay, make your case. All right, so this is cheating a little bit because Tim Patrick is on the IR, so it doesn't matter quite as much as I was going to say. But with Cortland Sutton, Tim Patrick,

I'll throw KJ Hamler in there. A healthy KJ. You have to because he has to be third. Right. Well, I was actually going, Sutton and Patrick are better than Judy, but also KJ Hamlin. Tim Patrick's out for the season. I know.

I just said that. That's why I'm throwing KJ Hamler in now, too, to be fully transparent with the way that I did this. Also, we could throw in Albert O. Maybe he's better than Judy. Who knows? The bottom line is, the point of the reason I'm doing this.

I don't actually truly, truly believe it, but like, Judy wasn't very good last year at all. He finished 2021 with 38 catches, 467 yards, and a goose egg for touchdown. Well, he had a brutal high ankle sprain

really early on in the season. He did, he did, but he played through it. This is the same, like, the Zeke discussion. Like, he was just playing bad. And by the way, he wasn't like all that great as a rookie either. This is one of those things where, like, we haven't seen it yet. Like, we haven't seen him be the first round receiver that we want him to be.

And we've got him ranked as the wide receiver 22. Do you guys want me to give you a list of players that average more fantasy points per game than him last year? Per game. Not total. Per game. Pick a couple that are fun. The recently mentioned Deonti Hardy, who is 5'6. Oh.

Jameson Crowder, who's also like 5'7. Quintez-Cephys. Have you even heard of him? Lions. Yeah, he's the Lions. KJ. Osborne. Sure. Van Jefferson.

Kendrick Bourne. Corey Davis. I'll admit it's concerning. Judy's being drafted like a hundred spots ahead of all these people this year. I walk the middle ground here. I think that the Judy's stats are obviously not there. It's kind of like Clyde Edwards or Lair very easily. But what about?

And like obviously last year Judy got hurt early. And that's probably a good reason to not be great. And then his rookie season, he wasn't like, Drew Locke literally lead the league and just straight up bad throws, like just off target throws. And then Jerry Judy was the number one receiver. Like with all. So like it makes sense that Jerry Judy just wasn't connected with Drew Locke.

Here's the thing where I'm with you. I think that the areas that Jerry Judy would excel with another quarterback is just not where he will probably excel with Russell Wilson. And that's my concern for Jerry Judy kind of being overdrafted this year, whereas I like Cortland Sutton a lot. Yeah. I mean, look, I think. I'm just picturing a world where KJ. Hamler is the new Tyler Lockett and Cortland Sutton is the new D.K. Metcalfe, stylistically, I'm not saying like literally.

Stylistically for this offense. Like, where does that leave Jerry Judy? What is he going to be doing? Or I could see a guy like Hamler really just cannibalizing Judy's targets and making him much less like, you know, high end in fantasy. Like he's just not going to have enough points and not enough targets to actually be usable in fantasy. So we've, I think, like, Judy is being pushed up our rankings and, you know, the ADP list because he is a former first round pick. But like, we just haven't really seen it happen yet. It's going to be quite the, if the career doesn't work out for Jerry Judy, it's going to be one of the weirder drop-offs in a while. He was such a highly touted prospect. I mean, everybody couldn't stop talking about his route running abilities and how, I mean, remember, it was like him or Cidie Lamb, him or Henry Ruggs.

Like, that was the conversation when, with. draft was going on, what, two, three years ago, it's like, he's like an actor who was in like two good movies and then just disappeared. So you're saying Jerry Judy's Brendan Fraser, essentially. So in 2020, Jerry Judy was ranked 83rd among receivers in PFF's receiving grade. In 2021, I'm guessing it wasn't great because he was injured, as you said, for most of the year. But again, really tough. I mean, he's had quite a brutal stretch to begin his career. He's had horrific quarterbacks, a nightmare of an offense, really tough injury luck. And now this is the year that he can prove it.

And now D.K. Just trying to put him behind Albertoe. That was a little bit tug-in-cheek. He was 53rd last year in PFS receiving grade. I'm just the bottom line is, I'm worried about where he's going in draft. I'm worried about where we have him ranked. That's my point. This is just getting ahead of a shitty ranking that we have.

Yeah. I think he's going to, there's a strong chance he's going to finish outside the top 32. We have something above him. A lot of places don't. Kickoff week one with Fandall America's number one sports book. Join today to get started with $150 in free bets, guaranteed when you place your first $5 bet. Just sign up with our promo code, Ringer Fantasy, to get in on the action.

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And it was in plain text. And it just wasn't, it just wasn't, you know. Excuses. That's all I'm hearing. Hey, by the way, off topic. Did you guys see that Po, the Raven's mascot,

tore his ACL? Yep. It's out for the year. And Ben Solek, our beloved Ben, our beloved sweet summer boy. Baby boy, Ben. Said if he gets a thousand retweets,

he'll try out for Poe, the mascot this year. He got way, more than a thousand. He's a very, he's a popular person and also a lot of big name, like, accounts retweeted him to trying to get the momentum going. Anyways, I hope he does it. I don't know what's going to happen. He better to make him do it. We're going to make him. And we're going to make content out of me. That's what we're going to do. I was telling him that the, the, him saying if I get a thousand retweets, I'll do. This is like literally the same as Dr. Evil saying,

like, like, holding the world. One million dollars. Holding, they get the nukes and hold the world hostage for one million dollars. Really? I mean, yeah, we could totally do that. Yeah, we got a deal. Sure, okay. You got Venmo? Anyway.

All right, Craig, another take perch. What if Trey Lance is bad? Trey Lance might suck. And you know what? If he's bad, it's gonna, we're gonna have to like, I had this as a take purge too, which is that Trey Lance would be the best fantasy quarterback, but also they will just bench him for real life play. Oh, yeah.

The best fantasy quarterback to get bench. Tim Tebow was like that for a while. Tim Tebow was like weirdly good at fantasy. I would love nothing more that if Trey Lance is just running for like 70 yards a game, bopping in a Russian touchdown every other game. They're losing by 20 every game. Yeah, it's just like that he's awful. Yeah, the fate of this podcast kind of lies in Trey Lance's mediocre arm.

His untested mediocre arm. Yeah, great. He's thrown 100 passes in 700 days, arm. We chose the wrong champion, you guys. This take was already percolating in my mind, and then the Jimmy G thing happened, and I was like, man. Fuck.

It's the worst fucking attorneys. This could go south, man. I was looking at the schedule. They have two easy games. The back half of the year for Lance and the Niners is pretty brutal. It's like, bucks, Rams, Packers. It's like, man, I hope he's good. Oh, no.

Hope he's good. That's all I got. I have no stats. I honestly my purchase the same thing which I like the flip side of like I actually think it'd be really funny if it happens twice like if Trey Lance and Jalen Hertz are just the best two fantasy quarterbacks but in real life we're like man these guys are fucking awful maybe my take should be that Trey Lance and Jalen Hertz

are going to officially cause the fantasy football landscape to finally switch to six points per passing touchdown and just yards are 10 points no matter how you get them or sorry you're yards are one point. 10 yards or one point. We cannot let High Fitz win this argument. We can't let him win.

Please God, Trey Lance can. I guess if Timo couldn't do it, then I don't know who can. But yeah. All right, and I got one. Oh,

we could do core. Oh, I'm between two right here. I feel like Bill Belichick will never make the playoffs ever again. Good Lord. He's just not. It's not.

And you know what? Honestly, you know what the craziest part of this is? It's not that hot of a take. The Patriots are terrible and he's 70 years old. I thought it was so hot. I'm like, as I started looking into it, he's 70.

I didn't even think I had to convince myself. The more I looked at it, I was like, this is super reasonable. Like, it is. It is. Waiting so long to get this take. Look, here's the thing. I mean, you guys, you want to talk, you want to talk this season, like this season, the reality is Josh McDaniels took all the good coaches that are left.

And Belichick got left with his sons and Matt Patricia and Joe Judge. And Matt Patricia is an under-discussed part of this is Matt Patricia is not only the offense coordinator. He's like also the offensive line coach. Cannot stress enough. Those are usually two different jobs. Like Josh McDaniels is not out of here just also coaching the O line. Also, not only is that two jobs,

they're traditionally done by people who've done those things before. Matt Patricia has two jobs that he has never done. The Patriots are like the coaching version of the Knights Watch. There's like no, there's no quality people up here anymore. What's going like? They're just sending these these fucking guys. I don't even know.

I wanted to read this quote. So one, Rob Dinkovich said the other day, who used to be a Patriots linebacker, their biggest problem in offense will be not having an identity. Greg Bedard for the Boston Sports Journal reported the Patriots players are concerned, and he wrote that,

I thought, I don't know why this is so funny. The Patriots have had as bad as bad of five weeks as you can have when it comes to training camp in the preseason. And I don't think I've covered one from Miami and Green Bay to New England in 30 years that has gone this poorly. Jesus.

Well, he has such a great track record. I feel like nobody's, like, very rightly, so nobody's allowed to criticize him yet, right? Like, we have to wait. It needs, it needs to be bad for, for two years in a row. So he's, he's gonna coach until he beats Don Schula, right?

That's his goal for most wins as a coach. That's, I think, I honestly think it's threefold. I mean, just, he's still good at it in his mind, and he, you know, he doesn't need Brady to be good. Two, you're right, he wants the all-time written to record, Don Schula. I think it's underrated, though, how much he's coaching left for his sons.

Like, I think his sons are still on that staff, Steve and I think the other one, Brian Belichick, and like they're just on the defensive staff. I think that's an underrated part of it. I have to say, though, like, it sounds nuts and take purgy, but here's the reality. Tom Landry,

who's longevity-wise, one of the only ones on part of Belichick, he made the playoffs once in his final five seasons. Don Shula, who has the all-time wins record like he did, but famously just couldn't bring Dan Marito over the hump and, like, make a playoff from. Bill Parcells, who's Bill Belichick's mentor, Bill Parcells made the playoffs twice in his final five seasons.

Chuck Noel for the Steelers. made the playoffs one time in his final seven years. And like, it happens. And Bill Belichick is now in a conference. Like, let's be real. Every year for the rest of Belichick's career, the bills are going to be favorites to win the AFC East, right? Like, every year.

So now the Patriots, I think that's fair. Like, the Patriots are going to have to snack a wild card in a conference where they're competing with Lamar and the Ravens, Burrow and the Bengals, and, you know, eventually Deshawn and the Browns, not to mention Russ and the Broncos, Mahomes and the Chiefs, Justin Herb and the Chargers, only one of those teams, like two of those teams every year are fighting for out court spots. I really think this is freaking like possible.

This reminds me of the guy who asked Bill Belichick if he was prepared to bench Tom Brady after that blowout loss to the to the chiefs, I believe. Yeah. It feels like, oh yeah, we're a little early on this. He's 70. When Phil Jackson, he's a young 70. When Phil Jackson was 70. he was the part-time GM for the New York Knicks.

How old is Pete Carroll? He's 70. He's a few months older. No, I think he's still 70. He's a few months older. Let me check. Pete Carroll is... 70.

In two weeks, he turned 71. But I was trying to look this up as we were speaking. I think Pete Carroll is the oldest NFL coach ever. Which makes Bill Belichick the second oldest active NFL coach ever. Wow. And he's 28 wins away from tying Don Shula. 28 wins. Like, how many seasons is that? That's at least three seasons. It is, yeah, it's definitely three. And it's a question of three or four.

And so we're talking about him pushing 75? That's the thing, man. And I'm just saying, like, I don't, even Bill Simmons isn't out here trying to say his Patriots are going to make the playoffs this year. And I just, I just don't think it's thing. Here's the reality. Belchick is a hiring problem. Like, they just don't hire people anymore. It's, that's, that's the reality. It truly is like the stepbrothers or, uh, stepbrothers. other thing where he's like, he's only going to hire people he wants to hang out with. These are the only people he wants to hang out with. He's Seth Rogan in that thing. He's like, I'm not trying to make new friends. I'm 70 years old.

I don't want to have, I don't want to like have this person come in that I don't know and like try and get to know them. I'm just only going to hire people I know. He's like interviewing his two kids. He's like, you look like me. You have the same hair as me. That's cool. I like that.

Unless you two dudes, unless you two dudes are like the weirdest guys ever. This is going to work out great. And I'm not seeing that. I don't see that happen. I don't see that at all. And then at the end of the season, it's like, in retrospect, the tuxedos are fucked up. Like, I was talking to Sheel about this on the NFL show today, actually, though. Like, the whole Patricia Judge sideshow, like circus, I think is getting overplayed because

at the end of the day, Belichick's just going to take over once the season starts. But no, he can't. No, he can't. This is the part of it that I'm so resolves. Why? Because he's too old? Because he has to do the defense because they don't have a real, they have Gerard Mayo, the line backers coach. They have like his two sons as a linebacker's safety's coach. Like they don't have a ton

of defensive assistance. He can't just hand off the defense in reality. He's Rod Mayo. Yeah, but he is Matt Patricia. Why can't he just have Matt Patricia fucking call the defensive place? None of this makes any fucking sense, man. If Belichick, exactly, if Belichick was going to do the offense, fucking Belichick would be doing the offense. I don't know. It's all nuts to me. Like, and they don't have the, none of it makes sense. Also, it's worth saying, Patriots offense was smothered by the Raiders second team defense. Like, it's just, it's, that doesn't happen. All right.

D.K. I really believe that. Bill Simmons, don't fire me. That was an incredible. That was the hottest take we've had, I think, on this whole show. What was, what was your official take, though? It's Bill Belichick will never make the playoffs again. I'm serious.

Fucking love it. All right. DK. This one's not nearly as fun, but like, look, we've, we've loved this guy forever. He never really lives up to our expectations. This is the year DJ Moore finishes as a top five ride receiver. He's doing it. It's his year.

more has averaged 82 catches 1175 yards per season over the last three years nearly exactly he just repeats that very very consistent however he's only scored four touchdowns in each season like four four four four if he basically does what he did last year

which was 93 catches 1200ish yards four touchdowns but he scores 10 touchdowns total so an additional six touchdowns he would score around 270 fantasy points which would have been good last year for wide receiver six in PPR I think the combination of Sam Darnold, PJ Walker, Cam Newton last year is like way worse than we are remembering.

And yeah, are happy to admit because we probably honestly just didn't watch Panthers all that much like for just being totally honest. Like not a lot of reasons to watch the All 22 once it comes out on Tuesday or whatever. The Panthers brought in Cam Newton to play quarterback for them and get snaps like two days after they signed him. And then just had PJ Walker just because he played for Matt Rillot Temple. High Fitz. I know that I've like beaten a dead horse about the Giants not scoring touchdowns. The Panthers scored fewer passing touchdowns than the fucking giants last year. They had 14 passing touchdowns.

Wow. Very few touchdowns. I'm not going to say that Baker Mayfield is awesome, but Baker Mayfield's fine. And he's going to make this offense way better than it was last year. And I think he could make it way. I think he could make specifically DJ more much better than he was last year, particularly in the touchdown department. So I'm just, I think.

DJ Moore year. It's it's DJ Moore's year finally. I like this. DJ Moore is like the most post hype sleeper. It's like the post post post post type sleeper. Because he's only 25 years old. It's crazy. Like I feel like, Velas Jones age. Yeah, that's actually, you're right. The Bears drafted a fucking rookie. That's a year younger than DJ Moore. Vylus Jones has been catching so many strays on this pod for the past month for his age. Yeah. I'm not complicit. I should have just done a take purge. He's the only rookie he'll be good as Vueless Jones. that shit that would have been a good one

no oh well uh i i think this is solid i mean i honestly i i think it requires passing touchdowns i think that the i would tweak your take purge to be like baker like angry baker will be good for the panthers he's gonna fuck him up like like a like a side car part of this motorcycle of like baker has always failed when he's been like hyped like going number one pick i think was like the worst thing that happened for baker's career other than just going to Cleveland. I do wonder what happens if Josh Allen goes to Cleveland and Baker goes to Buffalo.

I'm kind of like, I sense a take purge coming. I'm just saying Josh out, like, were the Jackson Brown's going to figure out Josh Allen? I don't think so. I'm just saying, like Baker, I do wonder about Baker, maybe this is just a total cliche, but sometimes it's true. He's just

better when he's pissed off and he takes the, and like he's just been so thoroughly disrespected. He's not in the progressive commercials anymore. I kind of like love the idea of big, and I'm not saying, now, I was talking Stephen Reeves as a Panthers fan, and he made a funny point of like, it sounds like more fun than it is, but then you watch the quarters of it. However, I think that's like an important side part of this DJ Moore conversation. I'm all in. DJ Moore. DJ Moore is one of those guys. Every time you watch him catch the football,

I'm like, this is one of the best players in the NFL. But he just doesn't get in the goddamn end zone. I just don't think of him, though. And the nice thing about him in fantasy is all the people who have drafted him in the past, they won't want him again. It's like the madmen quote. like I literally never think about DJ. Excellent point, Craig. He's like the person that people have had, but no one wants back, but no one cares that much.

They're like, yeah. Craig, another take, purge? I think there's a chance that come next year, we are going to look at Najee Harris like David Montgomery. Wow. I love Najee Harris.

I think he's a good running back. But, This man averaged less than four yards of carry last year. The O-line seems to be just as bad. He now is this Liss-Frank foot injury thing. Like, will he be able to replicate last year's line? He essentially needs to be relevant in fantasy football. He needs to basically have the most combined carries and targets in the league,

which he did last year as a rookie. He had 94 targets, which I think is mainly because of Ben's noodle arm. Like, is there a world where Najee Harris is a little worse this year? year they don't throw to him as much. He runs for like 980 yards and six touchdowns. He only ran for seven touchdowns last year. He sees like 20 last targets. And he, and you know, we move into next season and he's like a third, like, is he a dead zone running back next year? It is my question. Oh my God. This is good. So like, the only reason I would pick a hole in this is like, because honestly like stylistically, they're kind of similar. Like David Montgomery constantly gets

like made fun of or whatever because he's not very fast. He's not like. a home run hitter and neither is Najee. Like, Najee's not going to create 80 yard plays. Four of Najee Harris' 317 carries last year went for more than 20 yards. He's arguably, he's like slower and like less dynamic than David Montgomery. Here's the part that freaks me out is that those are probably the two worst offensive lines in the league in Chicago and Pittsburgh. And those are probably like the quarterback situations. I mean, I mean, literally Trubisky obviously used to be in fucking Chicago.

Like it's a little too many celebrities for me. This is the thing I keep coming back to is the Steelers led the NFL, the league in shotgun rate, inside the five and inside the 10. Like, that's insane to me. And I just, I do wonder if Najee, if he doesn't have a lead-leading touch total this year, might have just more touchdowns just because they have to be going from league leading to probably below average. They're going to be passing above average with Trubisky or picket in the offense, right?

However, I see you're saying, Craig, where Naji, without, like the foot sprain possibly taking Naji out of contention to lead the league in touches is really concerning about where that might end up. And I mix in the 94 targets

of his rookie season. I just, I don't think that's going to happen. Might not happen again? Like, look at Seqon. He never got close to his rookie year in terms of perceptions. What I was going to say with

poking a hole in it, though, I never finished my thought, is that he was a first-round pick. and David Montgomery was like a third round pick and a lot of people were very split on whether he was any good at all you know what I mean? And like yeah,

I think it's hard for people to change their perception of a player based on where that player was picked. Does that make sense? Like he was a high, he was like a five-star guy like incredible at Alabama, first round pick. He's likable.

He's likable too. You're also describing Josh Jacobs, by the way. People like his personality. That's funny. I don't think Jacobs was as a high recruit though, like that. I could be wrong.

Let me look it up. But yeah, I get your point. But yeah, like... This is a take purge. There are little tiny drops of fear in my brain about this. I believe Najee's good and he's going to have a good year. But part of me is like, is this... Are we going to look at him as kind of gross heading into next year's draft season?

All right. I did just freak myself out because I looked up Najee Harris's rookie stats. And he got, what, 1,200 rushing yards on the dot. Josh Jacobs has a rookie at 1150. God, I'm probably less carries. Oh, no. Probably way less carries, actually. Are you scared me a little bit?

Yeah, but he's on the, he's on the Steelers. They don't have, they don't rotate running backs. True. I get that this, I get that this is a take purge. It's a good take. It is a good take. And it made me think. So thank you.

And it made me think. And that's the most important. Really jogged the old brain there. D.K. You got another take purge? I do. Travis E.T.N. Top five running back.

Oh. Here we go. I just keep coming back. I think it's like honestly very perfect. the DeAndre Swift comparison with Travis E.T.N. Last year through 10 weeks, I didn't even realize this, but DeAndre Swift was the PPR wide receiver five. Sorry, running back five through the first 10 weeks.

He got hurt, missed like four or five games, and then he came back in the end. But I just look at that 10-week stretch. He was going off. It wasn't even because he was running for a lot of yards. It was because he caught 56 passes in that stretch. And I think the two teams, so Detroit of last year, and Jacksonville this year

in similar scenarios in terms of like they're going to be trailing a lot, a lot of trailing game scripts, a lot of passing. I think that I think that Trevor Lawrence is going to utilize him

as like a dump off option, like get rid of the ball quickly and get it out into space. He's more explosive than DeAndre Swift. I think there's some question marks about Travis ETS's vision as a runner. And I think you could say

the same thing about DeAndre Swift because DeAndre Swift quietly was terrible in terms of like his PFF grade last year as a rusher is like one of the worst and he didn't break any tackles like all this stuff so like it all keeps coming back to like trust each end could be not a very good runner and he could still be a top five running back in fantasy in ppr in particular it's worth mentioning that Trevor Lawrence last year led the NFL in check down right and that might be because all of

his receivers were running to the same part of the field because urban Meyer was falling down on their routes yeah but it's still worth noting yeah I have I have a series of just little lightning round ones I might throw out you guys and you guys just stop me when you want me to stop. Okay. Well, I mentioned on Bill's spot. I think Justin Jefferson's the first 2,000 yard receiver. Yeah.

Ooh. I'm going to, I think Michael Pittman just finishes ahead of CD Lamb. Bang. He's too skinny. Alan Lizard is just going to be a top 10 receiver and we'll look back like, wow, maybe we should have listened to Aaron Rogers saying he's the number one guy. I don't really believe that, but I just keep in the back of my mind just thinking, man, if Aaron Rogers does in fact just like, what if we just like, yeah, wow, they just replaced him

Devonty Adams. The head coach of the Packers is already warning us not to like take any of his I know, I know, it's not gonna happen. I just keep thinking of it.

That's a great one though. I'm such a bitch. I love Alan Lazard. I should have come up with that take. Melvin Gordon will just be straight up better than Giovante Williams this year in fantasy. Ooh. I keep thinking about this.

I'm like, I just straight up like they have the exact same amount of carries. And like I understand like obviously you want to bet on the more talented younger player. However, I just keep thinking like man, I just get Melvin Gordon like outside the,

the top 100. It just... This reminds me. Craig, should I just do that Damien Harris is the third best running back on his team again? Just run it back. Run it back. Giovante, Rustin Melbourne, and Mike Boone. Mike Boone. Dicket liked Mike Boone. Like two years ago.

Mike Boone was fucking blowing it up in the preseason. Oh, God. Settled out. He's a preseason superstar. The guy Duncan in warmups, but doesn't play in the game. I think Juju's top five in catches this year and just actually is more catches than Travis Kelsey. Ooh.

But the one that I just really keep thinking about, the league one, the guy, like, who just wins leagues this year that's just fucking Julio Jones on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Oh, boy. Oh, my. I'm just like, when he's signed with the bucks, I was like, he's not healthy. Like, this is not relevant. Like, he has not been healthy in years. He's not.

And I'm like, you know what? What if the guy who keeps saying he's 100% is 100%? And I'm like, am I a moron? Have I forgotten that Julio, Jones just plays with Tom Brady now? Dude, he's an alien. Yeah. Like, Randy Moss came in 2007.

It's not quite the same. Like, Julio's had more physical injuries, probably than Randy did at that time. He was a couple he's older. But holy shit, man. I feel like I have not properly processed the, like the, like, what if Julio is healthy though? And I kept dismissing, but he's not. But like, what if he is?

And he plays with Tom Brady. And even if he's only 85% of his peak, the quarterback upgrade of Brady. it's like what if Julio just delivers his third best season and figures out all his red zone troubles with Tom Brady why is he wearing number 85 Chato Chosinko? It's hard for me to Because that's how many fantasy points is going to have a game terrible vibes

When you guys think of Tio Do you ever do you like when you think of what team he was on What do you think? Niners Eagles, Cowboys I think Cowboys usually Tio is Niners in that order actually Niners Eagles Cowboys He was a Seahawk for a minute Was he? Yeah

I don't remember that It was a short stint. When he was on Dallas, here are his three years. He had 1180 yards, 1,350 yards, and 1,000 yards. He had 13 touchdowns, 15 touchdowns, and 10 touchdowns in those three seasons with Dallas. His age during those seasons, 33, 34, and 35. Wow. And the year before it, the year when he was 32, he missed half the season with an injury.

And you're like, oh, 32, got hurt, what's he going to do, new team? Fell off the cliff, yeah. And he's great. I'm just saying it's been done before. and Julio is on that level, obviously. The other thing that threw me off the scent was I was surprised to he didn't sign up the Colts because Matt Ryan's there and I'm like, did Matt Ryan not want Julio? And like, I just saw Julio said the other day, the second he left the Titans, he wanted

to sign with the Bucs and he just wanted to play with Tom Brady. And I'm like, I get it. Yeah. We have him ranked. I kind of think we haven't ranked properly. He's like right outside the top 100. It's right when you want upside. But like, I just, I don't know.

Like, are we going to look back and be like this is like, I don't know, four notches below Randy Moss in 2007? I adore this take. I want to adopt it and raise it as a son. Take it home. I want this take. This is so good. I love it.

Craig, you don't want any of this life. I got a puppy right now. My God. I am sleep deprived. I'm telling you. All right. Can I lay one on you?

Can I lay my abstract take on you? Please. All this, all this we're doing, fantasy prep. It's all a massive waste of time. heavily prepping for your fantasy football draft is just a huge waste of time. You know why?

Because you could just show up an hour before your draft, pull up somebody's rank, pull up an expert's rankings, and your team will be good. You could auto draft. You don't need to do any of this. Just find one, get our rankings, Evan Silva, JJ Zachary, grab one of their rankings, pay 20 bucks for it, show up to your draft, and your team will be good. And, you know, I just saved you 25 hours of your summer.

God damn it, Craig. And we can't edit this out because he's the fucking producer. It's also already on the hottest. This is on the hottest take too. So it's out there. The podcast, the hottest take. You listen. How dare you?

How dare you? How could you define what's a waste of someone's time? I understand that this undermines our very podcast. But listen, people listen to the show because it's fun. Listen, if you want to prep because you like it and you enjoy it, I think you should. That's why I did it before I was on this show. I did tons of prep every summer because. because I had fun doing it.

But if you feel like you need to do it, you fucking don't. I think that here's, this is also good for a brandy K, because everybody else's podcast, they're like, you should listen to this podcast. And Craig's like, don't listen to this podcast. It's not worse. It's not worth the time. It's a great podcast and listen to it to have a good time to enjoy,

you know, your time at the gym or a long walk or taking a shower or cooking, whatever. But if you think that this is necessary three pods a week to have a good fantasy football team, you're wrong. I just realized people might be. listening to us in the shower. That's kind of weird to think about. It's also kind of kinky, if you think about it.

Email us at RiggerFantasy Football at Gmail.com. If you heard that, DK. say that while you're in the shower, I'm very curious. That would be incredible. We'll shout out all of our shower lessons. I've never once thought about that. That's interesting. Okay.

I listen to podcasts in the shower. I mean, I do too. So I just never put it together. It's like a chef's kiss. That's just like a maestro. It's just, yeah. It's like, you'd probably be fine without any of this. like the hope

I mean like I'm but by undermining our podcast I'm highlighting our website and our rankings like you really could just show up literally 30 minutes before your draft and Google ringer fantasy football rankings and just draft based on our rankings

or honestly most most experts they know what they're talking about your team's gonna be good I saw you like flash forward to next year and nobody listens to the show but the website's just tripling in traffic I have a I have I have another take purge on this like more meta level if there's any actual football takes left you should let me know because this is

no go ahead all right uh Aaron Rogers and Joe Rogan are right everybody should do psychedelic drugs no tossing Steve Jobs everybody everybody like they're right like it's about ayahuasca you know what I'm not saying everyone needs to do DMT but like DMT acid mushrooms everyone should do a form of psychedelics it's amazing it there is like real science to suggest it opens up pathways in your brain that are more, like, they haven't been open since childhood. Like neuroplasticity? Yes, neuroplasticity.

And like, literally, like, the reason that children have more imaginations is because their neurons don't basically know, like, they don't have streets. It's kind of like when you're walking around like a dirt yard, like your footsteps are there. But then you, as you're an adult, you just kind of put a stone path. So that when you take these drugs, you kind of actually have more, like, they're neurons that haven't talked to each other in a long time are communicating in unusual ways. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's why people

say they can hear colors and stuff. And it sounds weird, but I'm just telling you, it's about self-love, free expression, and you know what, Aaron Rogers is right? Like, it's good to have unconditional love for yourself. Hyphitz, are you on psychedelics right now? No, but I did do acid once and talk to a tree. And that was great. I would just like to say that the views of Danny Hyphitz do not reflect the views of this podcast, and we are by no means. By no mean we're not medical doctors that people should try psychedelic drugs i man Craig has never been

worried enough to do anything like that before slippery slow pyfids well i can't wait till the next take purge we're all going to be tripping balls and sitting in a forest that would be a great one if we just all do DMT and then do a podcast speaking of shower so if you're taking a shower high it takes forever it feels like you're in there for a fucking hour dk uh were the kids taking psychedelics and looking at their porn omags in the woods in the 80s? That seems like a good time. I did have a couple. So by the way, the discussion about generations and all that stuff,

like did spur quite a few emails to our email. So thank you for all the emails for that. A lot of people, it was basically split. Some people thought that you guys were 90s babies. Some people thought that you can define your own, what you are, like 2000s babies, whatever, or kids, I guess. I don't know. But I did have several people text me about porn in the woods.

it was a thing for sure. My friend found a pile of porn in the woods. Like, there's just caches of porn. I just don't know how to respond to this. It's like the gold rush. Just get out in the woods. Search for some porn. That line is super bad. Wait, you know what's super bad? It was like, and then she just found the principal opens up. What was the lie he said? My treasure trove dick lunchbox. Yeah. It's just a big triumphant one. Oh, I forgot. I had one last, I forgot my last take, which was that we're so fucking stupid for thinking Gabe Dave will be good. We watched him score four touchdowns and we ranked him as the top 50 player. What's wrong with us?

We fell in love with his name before we did anything else and that was our first problem. Is that the siren? We're free. And we did it. What happened? I just blacked out for an hour. So does that mean I have to wait another year to talk about DMT? Yeah.

What are you talking about? I don't remember you talking about DMT? Yeah, no. I don't know. I've been cleansed. I feel light. I feel ready to draft a bunch of rookies and fantasy. Yeah, I'm really, I'm definitely not drafting Josh Jacobs.

Noggy looks good and healthy. Strong. You guys, I just want to say this last month, not been a waste of time. Last month. Time was spent. Try like the last six years. However long have we been doing this. How long have we been doing this?

Like four years? Three years? Yeah. Yeah. Too long, apparently. I don't know. All right. Thank you, D.K.

Thank you. Craig, thank you to everyone for listening. Seriously, thank you. Despite what Craig says, we appreciate it. Thank you to whoever made the Purge movies. Whoever's got that just wrong. Thank you. And thank you to all the ancient peoples who were into the psychedelics trucks. Thank you, Lauren. Thank you, Phoenix. Who? Silence. Phoenix.

I don't know that. I always assume there is a band named Phoenix, but I can't say I'm familiar with their work. You guys would definitely have heard the song 1901. Okay. Go look it up. It says they are a French indie pop band. You know what? Here's my problem, Deacon. I just figured it out. You are like the king of like, I don't know the names of songs, but then you just name songs. And I'm like, at least sing me the chorus.

No, I will not do that. How does 1901 go? It's funny that D.K. is the guy that we have made named bands because he's clearly like into the least mainstream music. So most of his references are just shit that goes over our heads, Danny. he's not read. Someone wrote an email, and I apologize for not remembering the name, but someone wrote an email that was like, Danny went from just mailing it in with top hundred

bands and stuff to like naming all these indie like no-name bands that like no one's heard of. And he's scraping the bottom of the barrel of band names. Well, no, he said he thinks I secretly have very good taste of music, so fuck you guys. Wow. Well, you do have good

taste of music. I will never forget you going from naming Taylor Swift three times in four months to talk about Stan gets. I was just trying to relate to you fucking young people. I don't know. You're like, what are you kids like? Kid rock?

Kid pop. Kids pop? What's that? I don't even know what the shit is. Oh, by the way, I have to mention it. Before we go,

real quick, I just keep getting more and more stories about my friends hanging out with Andrew WK. Like multiple people have told me they hung out with them. I don't know. It was like my generation.

Should we get him on the podcast? Should we get Andrew WK on the podcast? Oh, that would be amazing. I would love to see what he's up to. We should get him on the podcast. Yo, he's from Palo Alto.

He's a bay boy. Let's do it. I mean, D.K., you seem to, can you just have one of your friends? I mean, he's basically an extended piece of my friend group based on all the texts I've gotten in the last like several days. We should get injured. We should get injured. Let's see if we can make that happen.

I wonder if he plays fantasy football. That'd be awesome. His dad is a legal scholar at the University of Michigan Law School and co-author of the widely used Duke and, I don't know, Duke, Duke, Mineier and Career Property Casebook. What words did you just say? You know, some legal book. that people read in law school. Okay.

Smart. Smart cooking. All right, we're going to get them in the pot. All right, goodbye, everyone.