The Ringer NFL Show - The Adam Schefter Trade Deadline Drinking Game

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

Years ago we invented a drinking game and created rules centered around Adam Schefter’s tweets during NFL free agency, and this year we decided to run it back for the NFL trade deadline. We scroll back through Adam Schefter’s timeline and use his tweets from today to comment on the biggest trades from around the league and of course, drink. RULES -Drink every time Schefter mentions an agent -Drink twice if that agent is Drew Rosenhaus -Drink if there are any typos -Finish your drink if he edited the tweet and there’s still a typo -Drink for inexplicable comma usage -Drink if Schefter’s writing is so bad that we have to read the tweet multiple times -Drink if Schefter’s tweet is obviously copied and pasted from someone -Drink if Schefter tweets a weird Photoshop -Drink if any of us have not heard of the player - Drink if Schefter tweets a signing while we are recording Check out our Weekly Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings and more! Email us! [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck and Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You can listen to This Blue Up on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyfitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Krollbeck. And we have a very special episode today. Usually on Wednesdays we do Power Hour, where we powering something. No, today we're going back to our origins. The Adam Schaefter drinking game, 2022 Trade Line Edition.

We're recording this. It is just after 4 o'clock Eastern. We're going to do what we do best, right, Craig? Well, this is kind of the actual only true episode of Power Hour, right? because we're actually going to consume alcohol. We're actually going to drink. We're actually going to drink for this. So for those who don't know,

this is maybe my favorite thing we do every year is in free agency. The only way to recap free agency, the only way to really recap the trade deadline is just go to the beginning of Adam Schaefter's Twitter and you just kind of like, okay, what happened? And you just read it. So we're doing that, but it's a drinking game

based on his tweets because, D.K., can you explain how Adam Schaefter, and we love Schaefter, I would describe as a loose grip on the English language? I mean, it's like he writes in Pentami diameter or something. Like, it's just very bizarre, like, way of speaking. It's like way, way too many commas. Like, the way, the sentence structure is all weird. It's like he's translating from a different language and just throwing it into his tweet. Like, I've noticed

this for years. And so we basically just started, uh, you know, making a play on that. Basically, every weirdly tweeted, weirdly worded tweet, uh, you drinks. I wouldn't harp on this unless you were correcting how someone speaks, but you said pentamic diameter. I think. you meant iambic pentameter because i think pentamic diameter is like satanic or something i don't know thank you for correcting me on that well you were correcting someone else so it felt like necessary but anyway that's pretty classic pentamic diameter that's that's obviously the diameter of a pentagram is what i was talking about here are the rules to the adam shifter uh drinking game so we're gonna go through his tweets drink every time adam schfter mentions an agent drink twice if that agent is drew

Rosenhaus. Drink if there are any typos. And then I added a new one for this year because Twitter has an edit button now. Shout out Elon Musk. Finish your drink if Adam Schaefter has edited but there's still a typo. Does it say tweet has been edited? Is that how you know? It does. I think you have to do on your phone, but it says tweet has been edited. If there's still a typo and the tweet has been edited, we're going to finish. He tweets like, you know how on Apple, like on I message, you could do like the predictive word where it just like thinks what it like predicts what you're going to say next? It feels like he just hits that a million. He just types in like William Jackson the third and then just hits that predictive thing seven times and then

tweets it. Well, I think we cracked the code. We were like, why is he so, like, the thing that always got me is how does he sell spell free agency differently every year? Like, who writes the word free agent more than Adam Schaefter? Like, not many people. Why is there a hyphen sometimes? Why is it not?

Why is it capitalized in the middle of sentence? And I realize it's because he's copy and pasting this from other agents. So his writing style is like the, like, the conglomerate of like 30 people's writing styles. Yeah, he's piecing together bits of other people's language. Which leads to our other rules. Drink if Schefter's tweet is obviously copy and pasted from someone. Drink for inexplicable comma usage. Drink if Schefter's writing is so bad that we have to read the tweet more than once.

This one's going to get us to see it. Drink if Schaefter includes a weird Photoshop. That's like every tweet now. It is. Drink if any of us have not heard of the player he's talking about. And then drink for every tweet he has while we're recording. So small sips, boys. So what are we drinking here?

I'm going to go first. I just have, I had a Halloween party and people left a bunch of weird hoppy IPAs. And I'm just going to try it, but I'm going to reserve the right to ditch this beer immediately and just I have Bud Lights in backup

in case this beer is dead. Is it like some like hoppy pumpkin ale? Yes. It's like denizens brewing coat Animal Hasey IPA. Animal Hasey? I don't know. Dude, I'm so out on the like angry IPA.

like hyper-masculine beer. It's so dumb. They're like 9.2%. Who wants that? Craig, you'd be happy to hear that I'm drinking Coors Light. Good for you. Silver Bullet.

The mountains are fucking blue right now. Craig, you're 1 o'clock at a work day and you have to edit this pod, so are you actually drinking beer? What are you doing? I'm not going to drink. Actually, our beloved Kai is going to be editing this pod. So I guess there's an argument to be made

that I could be drinking. But yeah, it's 1 o'clock. I like to work out later today. I don't know if I want to have like two to three beers right now. My solution, I'm going to get killed for this. I'm going to drink a kombucha. Trace amounts of alcohol, but good for the gut.

Trace amounts. Getting out on the technicality. Yeah, I'm having a better booch is the name of it. It's actually fucking great. We're not sponsored by them, but we'd love to be. Shouts out Better Booch. Oh, yeah. If only I had a beer in front of me that actually wanted, if we wanted to be sponsored

by. I kind of have the whole range. Not like the fuck your mother pumpkin ale spice porter. That's edgy. Beer has become like wine where I just buy it based on the can and the design. I mean, that's everybody. That's just advertising. That's how advertising works. I just buy shirts that look cool. Well, yeah, that's kind of the whole thing. I've always, I always like the ASMR of the of the can. Can we all do it? Yeah, we supposed to open right now or? Mazel tov. There we go. Oh, yeah. Let's see if this beer's any good. Oh, guys. What's up?

The wild hoppy is fantastic. I apologize to Denison's Brewing Co. This animal hazy idea is fantastic. All right. Let's get to some trades. Yeah. Right off the bat here. Field Yates actually beat Schefter to the punch breaking.

Bears are trading for Steelers wide receiver Chase Claypool. Chef quote tweets, Another deal, exclamation point. And then says, comp update, colon, bears traded a second round pick for receiver Chase Claypool per source. Is that normal? Another deal is the most normal tweet he's ever had. We should have to drink if another ESPN employee steals the deal from Shifter and gets back before.

I think that's good. Okay, I'll drink, yeah. And just to confirm, this is the Bears second rounder. It's not the Raven second rounder, which was originally reported. So Craig, Steelers fan here. You got rid of Chase Claypool. How do you feel? Well, I got to say, it's pretty rare that you can trade away a guy year three in like a relatively, after like a disappointing kind of is start to his career and you get the same price back that you paid for him back in the draft. Like, this could be like the 39th pick in the draft. While I am sad, this just means, you know, George Pickens, Deontay Johnson, specifically George Pickens, like, stuck up.

I'm kind of okay with it, to be honest. I don't know. I was sad at first, but I think this is a smart trade. I don't think we were going to re-sign him anyway. So a second round pick, I'm happy about it. I think it's weird that he went to the Bears. I don't know what the Bears are doing. The Bears got rid of all their defensive players.

They got rid of the leading tackler, Roquan Smith. And they got rid of Robert Quinn. And now they get Chase Claypool. Yeah, what do you make of that? Because, yeah, so as Craig said, they traded away the defenders. But I feel like it kind of makes sense. It feels like better late than never. They're like, yeah, we probably should have gotten Justin Field some receivers before.

We might as well do it now. Yeah. There's a lot of hindsight is 2020 stuff going on here. Obviously, the bears could have drafted George Pickens with, I think they had two second rounders. They passed on it both times. Decided to draft two defenders. I mean, they're rebuilding the foundation of their roster.

they have like a hundred million plus in cap space next year. They're going to have a bunch of picks. So I think really this is basically trying to help Justin Fields get through the rest of the season, which is actually like a legit concern. Like he's getting sacked so many times. He's taking so many big hits that, you know, maybe they saw that as like this is an opportunity for us to like get him somehow quicker than next year. This is a guy that's going to be around for another year plus.

We got the fifth year or no, he's not a first runner, but we could, you know, sign him to an extension if he ends up working out. I just think this is an investment in Justin Fields from right now. I think it's a good fit with what Justin Fields likes to do. I think wasn't Chase Claypool complaining a bit that it wasn't getting any go balls and things of that nature. Yeah. And it's obviously what Fields does well is throw deep.

And the Steelers don't do that. That's what I think is the logic to me behind this trade. I feel like, look, the bear is overpaid. The fact that they couldn't even give them the less of their second rounders, we can argue whether Chase Claypool is even worth the second rounder, maybe is. maybe isn't. The fact they couldn't give him the Ravens second rounder that they just gave away for Roquan, I don't know. But Chase Claypool is the deep threat guy, and it's like Trubiskey was never going to be that. And Kenny Pickett comes in, his first starts are against three of the best four

defenses in the NFL. It's like, Kenny Pick and he's playing Todd Bowles and the Bucks, the Eagles defense, the Bills. It's like no shit he couldn't get the ball deep to these guys that he was even be able to be a top two quarterback practicing with them in August. I'm not surprised at all. This is what Justin Fields does well. I'm pretty. curious to see how Claypool is going to do? I mean, I don't know. This is weird. They stick him with Chicago.

At least Equanimia St. Brown's there. He's also just a huge person. I don't know if he's any good. I think Claypool is undoubtedly better than anybody they got right now in terms of opposite Mooney. Like right now, it's like Dante Pettis, Equanimia St. Brown. Nikil Harry. Nikil Harry.

I think VILH Jones. I think Claypool is undoubtedly better than any of those guys. It's a surefire upgrade in my mind. And like, this is something I've been harping on. course all year and basically going back to since they drafted him, it's like getting him someone who's just going to go out and make a play for him. I don't necessarily think that Claypool is a super start, but I do think he's got a ton of talent. He's got a ton of speed. He makes their offense faster. Their offense is one of the slower offenses, I think, in the NFL right now based on,

I guess getting Vylus Jones and there's going to help. But I don't know. To me, this is a good upgrade for a guy who they probably now are seeing as someone that they can develop. Like, maybe this is actually a good sign for Justin Fields long term that they are trying to pair with him a young, still ascending receiver with a ton of physical potential that it can be developed. And I think the other thing here is he just wasn't, I don't think, a good personality fit for what they were trying to build in Pittsburgh for some reason. Obviously, he kind of seemed to fall out with the coaching staff there based on some of the antics last year. Is that a thing? I feel like the Steelers whole bit is they just like, yeah, we'll take, we'll take anyone. We don't care how

crazy they are. Well, just take everybody in. Yeah, I mean, they've had, they've definitely done that in the passed, but doesn't mean just because they ended up smoothing over things with Antonio Brown over the years, like they have let a bunch of other guys go. I mean, look, the reason they did this is because George Pickens is a star, and they don't need all three receivers, and they would have to pay Claypool in like a year. If you're the Bears, think about this.

We make fun of this all the time, but again, one more time. Vueless Jones, the third rounder they took, is 25 years old. He's a year older than Chase Claypool. He's older than Chase Claypool. The jokes about how old. is just keep happening. But they could have just coming. But as you said, the bears could have just taken George Pickens this year.

Well, yes, this is hindsight though. I mean, I definitely agree with that, but like, Better Lake than never is kind of the idea here. Like, at least they're getting somebody in. They're going to help him develop, help him get... I think, like, again, stylistically, he fits what, I think what Justin Fields wants to do is

push the ball down the field. Yeah, hopefully he gets like two, three deep shots a game. And I would say his ceiling is higher. Even this year, in fantasy, I'm talking about Claypool. His ceiling, I think... gets higher this year in fantasy than it was in Pittsburgh. I think that's true because Kenny Pickett, even if he was willing to rip it down the field, how much success were they going to have against those defenses? I think that fields and the Bears.

I agree with you, Craig. We got off the Steelers part of this real quick, though. So before we move on, is this, are the Steelers waving the white flag on this? They're four and four. It's Talman's never at a losing season. Or is this just more like the Steelers are one of those older teams. And it's like, look, they're just getting a really high pick for Claypool. Is there any reason to look at this is waving the white flag or just like, hey, this is the

ladder. I think it's the latter. I mean, this team has a ton of weapons. I mean, they still have Fryermouth, George Pickens, Deonti Johnson, Najee Harris. They just drafted rookie Calvin Austin wide receiver. Like, there's a lot going on there still on the offense. And I think this is just a great deal. I mean, they're going to get, again, like potentially a top 40 pick in next year's draft.

And they just brought in William Jackson the third, the corner from Washington, who was previously in Cincinnati. And the commanders are going to eat a lot of his salary over the next few years. So I still think the Steelers are kind of playing for now. I think it was just two smart moves. You didn't even mention their best running back, Jalen Warren. That's right. If you can get a high second rounder for your third receiver, yeah, like do that. On that note, next trade here.

Adam Schaefter, trade, colon, Detroit is dealing tight end T.J. Hawkinson in its division to the Minnesota Vikings comma per source. Sorry. That's pretty clean. Well, he has the two commas. It's in its division comma to the Minnesota Vikings comma. I think that's kind of. Detroit is dealing T.J. Hawkinson in its division. That's just kind of, I had to reread that.

Semantics. He's also got the graphics, so I think this is drinking twice. Yeah, but the graphic is not a weird Photoshop. It's just a photo of Hawkinson on the Lions. It says, breaking news from Adam Schaefter, and then there's new thing is the bottom ticker, the bottom ticker, the bottom ticker like it's fake sports center, says, breaking news, breaking news, breaking news six times.

That's weird, in my opinion. I mean, you don't have to convince me. I think this is... So the full trade is the Lions get a second rounder and this year and a fourth rounder next. year from the Vikings. The Vikings get Hawkinson and then also a fourth rounder this next year. So basically it's Hawkinson and two fourths for a second and a third.

But to what you were just saying, Craig, is that's kind of the theme of the whole day, which is just like young, mostly pretty athletic players getting dealt at the end of their contract when the team knows that they're not going to resign this guy. And teams kind of taking the gamble. The difference is that Hawkinson was in the 2019, like he's older than Claypool. so he's actually more toward the end of his contract. But, Dick, I'm curious what you made of this, because Hawkinson leads Detroit and receiving yards.

He's like second on the team and catches. And I think a big part of this was Irv Smith Jr., the Vikings tight end. He just had a high ankle sprain. He's probably out for a couple months. And not only that, I mean, he hasn't been healthy for the first two years of his career. And also just this is a new regime. So, Deacon, what was your first reaction when you saw this,

T. J. Hawkinson at Vikings? I think it makes sense from the Lions point of view, because to me he's not a big enough impact player to really sign to a big long-term deal, you know? And I think he has been, honestly, a little bit disappointing. I don't think that, I don't think he's a bad player. I think he's a good player. But I think based on where he was picked in the top 10, you know,

that you would have expected him to have like a George Kittle-esque impact, but he's just not that caliber of player. You know what I mean? And so I think it was a smart move on the Detroit's part. But at the same time, like the Vikings are getting a good player who can go out there and play every snap. He can block. He can, you know, take part in the past and give him.

He's not necessarily a super dynamic passing game threat, but he's good and he can catch passes. And I think that makes a lot of sense for, you know, if Kevin O'Connell's running something similar to what the Rams run, it's like they're running out of like a lot of the same personnel. You know, they want to be able to run and pass out of 11 personnel, all that stuff. I do think it makes a lot of sense for them to have a guy like Hawkinson rather than a guy like like Irv Smith, who's not a blocker. You know what I mean? Yes. When I saw this trade, I feel like it was about yards after the catch.

The Vikings, because Erf Smith's out, they have nobody that explosive other than Justin Jefferson. Like, if you just look at yards after the catch among all players, Justin Jefferson's second. Now that Earth Smith's out, they don't have another player in the top 100 in the NFL. Like, of every player that has 30 catches, Adam Thielen is last in yards after the catch, like, period. And I think that that's what this is about. It's just Dalvin Cook and Justin Jefferson and no one else they can get the ball to. And I think that's what they're hoping for with Hawkinson.

I don't know. What did you think, Craig? Well, to me, this is like a mini all-in move. Obviously, they didn't give up like an arm and a leg for him, really. But, I mean, look, the Vikings are three games ahead of the Packers right now in the NFC North and are probably going to be a very high seed in the playoffs this year. So to me, this is them kind of leaning in and going like, all right, we actually see this year as a year where we think we can make a deep playoff run. So we're going to make a move.

Yeah, because they're, what, they're six and one now? But how many of those wins have been one score games? Like four or five of them? And that's the fundamental problem. And also, Austin Gale, who now does a lot of stuff for us ringer gambling or power rankings here, he had a great stat this morning, which is, I got to pull it up because it was really good. But basically, Kirk Cousins in obvious passing situations. Oh, it's horrible.

Like second or second, third, fourth, whatever, and seven or more yards, obvious passing situations. Kirk Cousins is dead last and expected points per dropback. Like last, last. That's crazy to me. Like, Kirk Cousins being behind all the other quarterbacks that are playing this year. that's pretty nuts. So yeah, I think that they gotta get help.

I just look this up to, this is just reinforcing what I said earlier. The Vikings this year have run out of 11 personnel, 76% of the time, which is fifth most. And so again, it's,

I think to me it's about disguising your intentions, whether it's run or pass, and I just don't think Irv Smith was ever going to be that guy. And the other guy they have is Johnny Munt, who like,

I don't know. To be honest, I don't know a lot about Johnny Munt. I think he was one of those guys who outscored Kyle Pitts one of those weeks. I think, no,

there's always, Whenever a guy leaves a coaching staff, Kevin O'Connell left the Rams to run the Vikings, right? Whenever that happens, an offensive guy, they always bring over some old tight end. Yes. To just kind of explain the offense to people. Because he can kind of explain it to, like,

the receivers and the lineman. I think that was just Johnny Mon. That was like when Gerald Everett went to Seattle. Yeah, exactly. There's a long line of like tight ends that are just here to, like, teach people. And like, here's a million dollars, like explain this to everybody who doesn't get it.

Fantasy, does this help him? Like, I think this is better for him, right? It has to. I mean, right now, I know it's not saying much, but he's the tight end for Hawkinson was on the Lions and points per game. And if you remove Taysam Hill, he was third behind Travis Kelsey and Mark Andrews. I know he had one huge game. He had the 40 points, which was, I think, one of the biggest eight fantasy titan games like ever. If you take that game out, what is...

Yeah, but like, listen, the tight end's a wasteland. Why take the game out? He did it. Like, that means he's capable of doing something like that when I don't think somebody like Evan Ingram is. So I think that he took the game out. Yeah, that's true. that's why they traded for him. I think that you take the game out.

It's just like, I don't know how much does he really help people be on that one game. I think he's still a top six tight end. I think that Amon Rae St. Brown is like the big winner here because Amon Raid just for the line

and just vacuuming targets off of the middle again. Yeah, there's a joke that Ian Hartett says like every time anything happens in the NFL. It's like got to admit, this is good for Amon Rae St. Brown though. And in this case, it's actually good for Amon Rae St.

Brown. I think it's good for Hockinson. Like, at least in theory, the Vikings have a higher pass rate than the, the lions who are basically just let's run the hell out of the ball kind of deal. So that certainly helps.

They're going to, I think, run more play and score more points. Oh, oh, also two tight ends and a lie. Tight ends on the Detroit Lions after this. Brett Simpson, Brock Wright, James Mitchell. Brock Wright's real. I mean, I know that Mitchell is real. Yeah, first guy's fake, right? Yeah, the first guy's fake.

I have Dynasty Brain. I have Dynasty Brain, as you well know, High Fitz, and I have stashed James Mitchell in a couple of leagues already. Fingers crossed, that's probably going to work out. Yeah. James Mitchell. He was actually, he's a pretty good college prospect. Again, super athletic.

They're in the NFL. They're in the NFL. Wait, that's the new thing. Yeah, he's a good prospect. He's in the NFL. He's in the fucking NFL. Yeah, he's probably good in college. Wait, wait.

Is he athletic, though? Oh, yeah. He's athletic. Oh, okay, cool. We'll just checking. Did he dominate in high school? I bet he did. I don't know about that.

He played basketball. Oh, well. Honestly, I just want to be a learned. when this six-foot-six guy athletic enough to be the NFL never played basketball. Just tell me the tight ends who don't play basketball or like soccer. Yeah, okay. All right. Next one here.

D.K.'s a little peeved. He's pet. And our teasing. You guys, you guys can continue to make fun of me about it. It does not change the fact that I am telling you exactly how you find breakout tight ends, but that's fine. Okay.

Continue. Okay. Yeah. All right. Another big trade, colon, Denver is stealing linebacker Bradley Chub to the dolphins for a package that includes the 2023 first room pick that Miami acquired from San Francisco, comma, sources tell ESPN.

Kind of normal, but again, he's got that breaking news graphic. It just bothers me that it's like a fake ESPN thing. It goes on the full trade terms, comma. The ticker is like going by and it's just this is a still image. It's like Adam Schaefter and then under it says at Adam Schaefter. Trade terms,

comma, sources tell ESPN colon, Miami trades the 2023 first, fourth next year and Chase Edmins, they're running back. And then to Denver, Why not? Yeah, I don't know. Just throw them in. And then Denver gets Bradley Chubb.

Sorry, Denver's trading away to Miami. Bradley Chub and then a fifth round pick in two years because, again, like, okay, a fifth round or two years from now. Sure. Can we please just go through the three first rounders that the dolphins got for the nineers? Oh, my God. Yeah. The third round, the third pick that they dealt to the niners for Trey Lance.

And what Miami has turned those three picks into? Dude. So Albert Breers tweeted this out. This is incredible. So the dolphins got three first rounders back from the 49ers for the Tray Lance trade when the Niners traded up. Miami traded all of those picks, the three firsts. And they got the 2021 first rounder from San Francisco. They traded up to get Jalen Waddle. The 22 pick they traded to Kansas City to get Tyreek Hill. And the 23 pick they sent to Denver for Bradley Chubb.

For Lance. For Traylett. Tiree Kill, Jalen Wadle, Bradley Chub, plus like some pocket change. I think Roger Sherwood pointed this out too, like all these picks stem somewhat from the Laramie Tunsel trade too. Yes. So, yeah, Kevin Clark always talks about this, how the, the Laramie Tunsel trade

just changed, like, everything. It is like these lighter doors moment and like the gas mask thing because he fell everything about it was, it changed everything. God, that's crazy. Gotta say that the dolphins have come out on top here. I mean, at least early returns.

I know this is like defense isn't huge for fantasy and stuff, but I do want to just quickly, D.K., where do you make of the Broncos kind of punting and Bradley Chubbs similar to the Chase Claypool thing? It doesn't make them better this year. So, like, that's the bottom line, right?

Like, it's not like they're tanking. I would not say they're tanking. Well, I hope not. But it certainly does not make them better this year. You know, it's kind of like a long-term deal. They, you know, obviously get a first-round-back, which they need because, you know, Russell's taking up. He, they traded two first-rounders to get Russell Wilson.

And two seconds. Right. Plus he's going to have a massive, I think it's actually not crazy. It's like $22 million cap-hit next year. Well, the cat-pit, yeah, but they gave him a four. year deal for $160 million. So they give me him $40 million a year. This year they paid them more than $60 million.

Cash. So this is clearly sort of, I think, I mean, it's obvious. This is a reaction to the fact they start as slow and that Russell Wilson is here for the long term and they just basically need to recoup some picks to further develop their roster around Russell Wilson. This is more of a long-term move, clearly. So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's definitely, again, the bottom line for me is it doesn't help this year,

which is good for the Seahawks. Like it helps the Seahawks potentially get a higher pick in the first round, so I'm for it. I feel like the Broncos, I mean, look, realistically, they probably weren't going to re-sign Bradley Chub and Parkese-A-to-Pay Russell Wilson. And so they're like, look, they drafted Nick Bedito in the first round. They signed Randy Gregory in Free Agency. And they're like, okay, we got that. But still, it's like, obviously they thought they were going to be good enough to be competing

for the division title and the AFC West and a Super Bowl this year. And you hang on to Bradley Chub, let him go to Free Agency. and the fact that they're already punting, it's like they are, it's kind of like they're already admitting that, yeah, this Russell Wilson thing is going to work. And it's nuts.

It's like they're going to have to fire Nate hack it. And it's just, I don't know, they're already like, all right, Russ is going to need more help around them. We just need to reload. It's crazy.

On one hand, you almost kind of admire the fact that they're not just like totally blind to the fact they're just not as good as they thought they were going to be. I think it's good to get a first. Kind of like what Craig said about Claypool. They were stills weren't going to get a second.

It's going to get a first. But for Miami, needed this. They have a terrible bass rush. Yeah. And it's once again, it's, it's just like Minnesota. Bill was talking about this on his pod with Sal on Sunday night. It feels like the playoff teams are kind of cemented earlier than they've ever, then it felt like there's, they've been in a long time. Like, Miami is clearly going to be one of these teams that is going to have a shot at making a deep run in the playoffs, in my opinion, as are the Vikings. And it's just a lot of these teams making moves to kind of like shore up their weak spots before entering the latter half of the season.

I think that's true. And we were talking. Craig, you keep making the point that the new offense, you just can't count out is the Dolphins because it was like the Chiefs and Kelsey and Tyree Kill for so long. And now the Dolphins, and you were saying they might use Tyree Kill even better. And it's like no matter what the Dolphins do, what's very clear is in any game, especially in the playoffs.

They're always in the game. It doesn't really matter how much the dolphins are behind, just having Tyree Kill and Jalen Waddle, but now adding a pass rusher, like, I don't know, in a year where everything feels up for grabs. It's like you do want a better defense event. So yeah, the other part of this that's so strange is Chase Edmonds,

Melvin Gordon, Latavius Murray, being the backfield for Denver now. And it just seems like a, I guess my, DK, like, tell me if I'm wrong. Chase Edmonds will catch the passes. Latavius Murray will do like the short yardage

and the goal line work. Melvin Gordon will just be getting all like the empty calorie, like regular base touches. And all these guys will be touchdown dependent on the offense that is literally scoring less touchdowns than any of their team. Like,

is there any way you want any of these pieces, any of these players? I mean, I think it's still worth like taking a mouth to see how it goes, but I'm not excited about any of these guys. And I think it's going to be frustrating weekend and week out. I bet you anything we're going to have a situation where like Hackett rides a hot hand. It's like, oh, one weekend, you know, Latavius Murray gets 20 carries just because whatever,

there's no reason. And then the next week, he's like, oh, actually Melvin Gordon's going to start because this already happened. Like, it's like to me, it's just this is going to be one of the more frustrating backfields in the NFL unless there's an injury. And it just like, the fact that they threw in Chase Edmonds is so funny to be. It's like adding in like a bag of chips on your sandwich order at the last second. You mean, you're not going to eat that, are you?

Like, I'll take that too. You know what's so funny to me? I always come back to this. It's like fantasy football and the NFL couldn't be more different running them. And yet, once you get through all the way to the end, it's like they're exactly the same. It's kind of like, like, looking at this trade, it's all, like, it's like a fantasy trade where you're like, all right, we got the parameters. I need a little more. What can you give me?

They're like, I don't know, a 20-25th. You know what I mean? Like, how does that even come up? Kai and I were just talking about this before we started recording. I was like, it really is when it comes down to it, not that dissimilar to like making a fantasy football trade. It's not. Throw in darnel Mooney and we got yourself a deal.

It's like that's probably what happened with Chase Edmonds right there. I got Chase Edmonds. I think it was, I think the best point is like Chase Edmonds, but, you know, can you get me saying back in like, well, 2025th? And like, yeah, sure. I just, I just think it's so funny to have a pick. That's three years from now. Think about this way. Think about this way.

You might all be dead by then. Put it this way. You know how any ads you're getting for the midterm elections right now? There's like another election between now and that fifth round pick. And they wanted it. Chase Edmonds feels like he's going to be on seven or eight teams in his career. And he's going to be good on every single team, but never play. Chase Edmonds is good.

He's better than Latavis Murray and Melvin Gordon easily. And I guarantee you he won't play very much. Yeah, but he's been one of the least efficient runners in the NFL this year, which is why they got rid of him. No, no, no. So this is very interesting. I actually agree with you, Craig. I think the problem with Chase Edmonds was that the Shanahan system is, it kind of like requires full subservience. Like you have to do exactly the way they do it. They call it riding the way, whatever they call it. It's just like, you have to do exactly the way that they coach it. Otherwise, it just doesn't work.

The system's very dependent on that. That's why there's randomness and who emerges. It's not always the most talented person. It's who will do exactly what I say. And I don't know if that necessarily Chase Edmunds learned it. But the flip side is now you look at Miami. They get rid of Chase Edmonds, they traded, Miami chated for Jeff Wilson because Mike McDaniel came from San Francisco. Chase Edmonds isn't working. He probably doesn't trust Salvin Ahmed and Miles Gaskin to run it because they were in Miami before he was there. So he just trades a fifth round pick for Jeff Wilson. And now Jeff Wilson is the handcuffed remastered again and I don't know what year it is. It's like, yeah, this is just like a bizarro 49ers backfield now. I like this trade for Miami. Like Jeff,

Wilson, I actually do think is good. I'm not so sure about Chase Edmins, but I think Jeff Wilson's actually good at running. Like four weeks ago, everybody was on the train still that Chase Edmonds was like the best running back on the dolphins. And when the season started, we were all in on how good Chase Edmonds was in Arizona and how much better he was than James Connor. Well, they gave him the most money too. So they thought that too.

That's the problem. Generally speaking, it makes sense to be like, well, they paid this person the most money. But it doesn't always work that way, obviously. And I think that was a mistake. Like, in retrospect, you know what was super obvious for him mostert? the question with him was health, but Rahim Moster had the most experience in this extremely a complicated scheme for running backs to succeed in Chase Amins didn't have much. And so I think Chase Edmonds will probably look better in Denver, if anything.

Annoying part about all these trades is there's not really any action item for us, you know. It's like Jeff Wilson's already on rosters. Chase Evans already on rosters. Don't drop Chase Edmonds, I would say. No, don't drop Chase Claypool. Well, no, I think Claypool. So yeah, fantasy-wise here, speaking of no, fantasy way, the next one here is Calvin Ridley. that was another one.

Yeah, no action item here. Speaking of no action item, Shefter, another trade, colon, bills also, oh, that's the wrong one, man, the IPAs are getting to me. My God. And another exclamation point, Colts are trading Nahim Hines to the Buffalo.

Oh my God, two spaces, to the two spaces, Buffalo Bills, comma, sources tell ESPN, and then next trade terms, comma, per source. Zach Moss and a conditional sixth to the Colts, and he hides the bills. So that's definitely a drink for the two spaces, I think.

Yes. I'd love to see how fast his fingers are moving to get that tweet out. He doesn't care about those little heirs. This is also just another one. It's like, what do you do? I don't know. I guess Dion Jackson is like definitely the handcuff for Jonathan Taylor. Cool.

Also, like, I guess fuck James Cook. Yeah. That's the action item there is you can just drop James Cook. They just, they drafted this dude in the second round this year, didn't they? It's so weird. So this is their track. they tried to trade or sorry they tried to sign jd mckisick over the off season he told them he was signing and then he backed out the last second went back to Washington that turned out to be a bad choice

also can you also dude with the exception of like if you have a family and your kids are like in school and you don't want to disrupt that dude what is jd mckisick doing terrible decision why would you choose like unless you like the area and you want to stay i'm in dc unless you like the area why are you choosing Washington's maybe literally like the last team you should choose. And Buffalo straight up's going to win the Super Bowl. Legitimately, Houston,

Houston or Washington are the teams you should not sign with, right? Like, what the fuck? He gave up a Super Bowl ring to work for Dan Snyder. It's tough. But yeah, so they tried to sign him. He backed out of the last second,

went back to Washington. Then they drafted James Cook in the second round. And now, after James Cook barely plays this year, although honestly, it had felt like he was starting to emerge a little bit

over the last week or two. No, now they went and signed Nihim Hines. Here's the, Here's the wrinkle. I was talking to hyphids about this the other day. When Schaefter tweeted that there was interest in Naheem Hines, he said, R.B. slash wide receiver slash kick returner, Nihim Hines. I'm like, dude, be a little more like obvious that you're just copy and pasting this

agent's, like. We should drink for that one, too. That was the most obvious copy paste job in a while. Adam, make sure you let the people know that Naim Hines is multi-talented, versatile back. Is he actually going to be replacing Isaiah McKenzie and not James Cook? That's a good one. that's my question because McKenzie honestly has not been very good. That's actually a good take.

I will say I have to shout out Nehem Hines. I can't make fun of Nehem Hines as a punt returner because I think Nehim Hines has one of the most unhinged and or badass quotes, depending how you look at it, which is he was talking about returning puns and he said he was completely serious and he said every time I return a punt, I tell myself, I'm going to die, I don't care about my life, I'm going to die, I don't care about my life, I'm going to die. He said that. And I just, I think about it every time I watch a punt now.

Literally, Yolo is his philosophy. Yeah. They need to just get rid of kickoffs and punts, I think. Punch, that I think the next time the competition committee brings that up, I want to just send them that quilt and be like, we should, this is what is. This is this man's job. Yeah. This is a workplace.

I mean, at least kickoffs get rid of, right? Punts are entertaining. I don't know if you can really get rid of it. Well, my hottest take about football that I think I'm like actually right about is that everything about football would be better without special teams. Like they should get rid of it. And like the XFL and stuff, the problem the XFL and all these leagues have is that they have to have special teams because those guys will make the NFL by being on special teams. But they actually should try it because if you have to take a piss during a game and you're going to go during a play, it should get up when the punt happens.

No one cares. But how much better would football flow if it was just make the fourth down or give up the field position? I mean, yeah. Preaching to the choir here. So much more fun. God. Okay. Again, there's no action items here, which is kind of frustrating.

I think these are like interesting from like NFL contractual things which we can get into. But fantasy wise, yeah, I mean, I think Chase Claypool, if you have them, this is your chance from be resurrected. It's interesting, you know, you see if you can do anything. But, you know, at least that the, if you have like a buy week, you can throw Chase Claypool in and just kind of hope that Justin Fields can toss him a bomb. Hawkinson, I definitely think probably will have more value now because the Vikings in theory should just be getting him.

Like they're trading from a second round of firm. You should get the ball more. Chase Edmonds, this is definitely your hope to recoup any value or you can, if he's out there and waivers you can add him just in case he does end up getting a lot of Broncos work. I mean, he's the best running back in the team and he's the only guy who's not like 37 years old. That's the thing. And Russ has really been trying to pass to his running backs this year. Stephen Ruiz and so like a performative checkdowns because it's like quote unquote the right thing. He's like virtue signaling, but as a checkdown.

Oh my God. That's a great thing. Yeah. It's true though. It's like it's like this is what Drew Brees would do. It's like actually Drew Brees would have hit like the wide open. Cortland Sutton running down, but you didn't see him. Anyway. Jeff Wilson probably was cuttable behind McCaffrey, but now actually might even earn some work behind Rahim Mosterd anyway. I don't know. I mean, yeah, I would definitely hold on to Wilson

because it's not like Moster's been the most healthy guy in the world. But yeah, this all feels a little like under, like Kareem Hunt didn't get traded. We can go to all the guys that didn't get traded, but it all feels a little under one. No, I mean, a lot of the bigger trades happened just like a week ago. Obviously, like, yeah. We didn't talk about Calvin Ridley. Yeah, so we want to do, well, yeah, so this one. Sorry. Sorry. No, it's okay. Shefter. This is out of a good.

Confirmed, colon. Falcons are planning to trade wide receiver Calvin Ridley, the Jaguars, comma, presources. Sides trying to finally trade. Here is the trade. Jaguars get Calvin Ridley. Falcons get a 2023 fifth round pick and a conditional 2024 fourth

that can rise on these conditions and that he didn't write anything about the conditions. Many minutes went by and then he said, here are the conditions on the 2024 fourth rounder. It stays as a four if Calvin Ridley's on the roster. It goes to a three if Calvin Ridley reaches certain incentives, and it becomes a second rounder if the Jaguar signed Ridley to a contract extension.

I definitely think that's a couple drinks. A second. Yeah, not bad for the Falcons. In English, I think that here's what this means. Calvin Ridley is one year left in his contract. He's going to make the team. So it's basically if he makes the team and just like gets hurt, we're assuming it gets reinstated. If he makes the team and he plays, it's a third.

And if they resign him, it's a second. I think that's basically it. We don't know what the incentive. incentives are, but that's probably it. They're in place because, I mean, if you remember, he didn't play football two years ago. So I guess maybe there is some uncertainty that he wants to continue playing football. I don't know. Yeah. And also, you want it even a weird element to this? You know how obviously he suspended for the year? Because he was, he bet, like, I don't know, grand over Thanksgiving weekend when he was out and not playing. The team he bet on was the Falcons to

beat the Jaguars. And now he's on the Jaguars. I actually love this. I love this for Jacksonville. He's going to be like 29 next year. He turns 29 in December. Yeah, so yeah, he's going to be 30 by the end of next season. And he will not have played for two full seasons. Oh, I'm sorry. He's going to be 28 in December. So he'll be 29 in the middle of next season.

That's still wild. I mean, I think, yeah, I think you can still have like a three-year window here that he's going to be pretty good. I mean, his legs are certainly going to be rested. He'll be fresh. I like this, though, because he can get deep. He can play on the outside, which they still definitely need somebody. He's kind of like win on the outside.

The Jags don't have real receivers. This is the pro-Christian Kirk and then like Zay Jones. This is what we talk about. Like at least they're doing something to get Trevor Lawrence the tools to succeed. Like now he's going to have E-TN, Christian Kirk, and Calvin Ridley. Like that is not nothing. You know, Hypatich always talk about nature versus nurture. Like at least if he screws up, if Lawrence doesn't pan out,

it's not going to be because there wasn't enough weapons around him. Yeah. I agree. All right. So let's see if, has Schfter tweeted while we were doing this? There were a couple extra trades. That went down. Nothing fantasy-related.

Did we drink for the Ridley thing being all weird? I've been drinking the whole time just because it tastes good. I'm getting a little, a little tasty. Schefter puts a little football emojis. I was actually going to ask if we can add that to the list of football emojis instead of like whatever bullet points. You want to talk about like time spent versus the value you're getting? Like him searching for the football emoji is it like just a true waste of 20 seconds that adds enough? No, no, no, no.

Because you hit the emoji keyboard and then. that's definitely like his most used emoji. So it's right there. Still, though, like, what are we adding here, dude? If we added the football emoji to the rules, I think that right now we're towing the line on like our job security drinking during this body. I think I would get so drunk if I did a drink every time he had a football. He's got like, he must have 30 football emojis today. Do you think he's mad when Field Yates breaks his story before him? I, this is, I don't. Dude, you don't become Adam Schaefter without being like hyper

competitive. So yeah. I, I think that the. The real answer is probably that he's helped Field Yates. It's the, it's the meme of the guy behind the mask. Like, the mask is smiling and the guy behind it is like so pissed, like seething. Sheffter tweeted 15 minutes ago that, there were a record 10 trades made today the most ever made on any NFL trade deadline day. Hell yeah. Plus add in the other, there's like 10 other ones before.

So like this trade deadline week has been great. It was a good deadline. We could do a little festivist airing of the grievances for all the trades that were not made. Yeah. Good call. Good call. Browns. Cream Hunt did not trade

Cream Hunt away. It was reported. Shefter basically said that they wanted a fourth rounder for him. This is just annoying because it would have just been great if Cream Hunt went to like

the Rams anywhere that they would play him. Ironically, Cream Hunt had one of his best games last night on Monday night football. But hopefully at least they play him more now. Why do you think the Rams were unwilling to do that?

The Rams don't give a fuck about picks. Apparently the Rams turned out, the Rams offered two first rounders for Brian Burns, the pass rusher from Carolina. I will say Kevin Clark had a great note that was basically the Rams should not have offered that and the Panthers should not have said no, which I actually think is exactly correct. Yeah, I don't know. I would have kept Burns probably.

The Bears, I don't know. Why don't trade David Montgomery for anything? Speaking of like David Montgomery, get any pick for David Montgomery. You're not going anywhere. You're not going to resign him. I feel like he shouldn't be on the Bears still. I mean, can we talk about the stupid Jets? They didn't get rid of Elijah Moore or Denzel Mim. They just absolutely cannot function unless they've got some second round receiver languishing as the wide receiver five on their team. It's like parents who like grounding their children. Just like, nope, you're not leaving the house.

Stay in your room. Can I tell you guys the truth? You guys love Denzel Mims. I've always hated him completely irrationally in part because I always hated that. This is why I'm hot song. However, even though we talk about him a lot, kind of forgot he was still on the Jets. Dude, he ran the second most routes for the Jets last week. I don't know what they're doing.

Denzel Mims, I kind of, he, he, is a second round receiver that didn't really play till last week. You're right. I just can't believe he's still there. He's legitimately good. Like, tell me why the Packers did it get him for like a sixth round pick? That's the bigger question here is, is why there are some teams that stood Pat that's very telling. The Packers doing nothing. It's not surprising because like the whole reason the Packers are in the situation is they do nothing like the entire reason Aaron Rod, like, not the entire part of their identity. It's their identity is doing nothing. But holy shit, man. And the Bears swooping in and giving up and getting Claypool.

Like being a Packers fan, you've seen this so much, you're probably like, you know, immune to it. But it must be so infuriating to, in a team that has more or less been defined by not having receiver depth for like, I don't know, almost six years now. And it's like worse than it's ever been. I think that's super fair to say it's worse than it's ever been the Packers receiving depth. And they did nothing. No. They're just doing it to troll. They're trolling Aaron Rogers clearly.

There were rumors. Rogers was on the Maccalfee show today live and he was like talking about how he's hoping that there would have been like a trade announcement while he was on the show. There were rumors that the Packers were interested in Claypool

but obviously. Well, I don't blame them for not doing that because that's a high pick the Bears gave up. If I was going to guess, it was the Packers got involved and that's why the Bears

came back with like to offering their own pick rather than the ratings one. Right. Here's, this is where I look at the today and I think if there's a through line through today,

you got a bunch of new GMs. Omar Khan, is a new GM for the Steelers. Quessi Adolfo Menza is the new GM for the Vikings. He's in his first year. And then the Lions, this is like a relatively new regime,

right? It's basically year two for the, they're not, they're much older people, but still. And I still feel like when you look at this, I kind of wonder, Ryan Poles for the Bears,

he's, you know, he's a new GM for the Bears. I kind of wonder if Omar Khan just kind of played Ryan Poles because like, were the Packers really going to give up a second rounder? I feel like the bear,

I don't know. I kind of wonder if Ryan Poles kind of got played, giving up that top one. And then the Vikings, I also just, I think it's the same thing. It's like younger GMs giving up or trading for guys that were not going to get signed. But they didn't get the extensions done, which, and that's the part that's interesting. It's like usually in trades when you give up a significant amount, you negotiate the contract extension beforehand.

Because now the player's ton of leverage. Now the player goes to the table. They're like, well, you said this is what I'm worth. Like, I know that you need me because you gave this up. That's why the Laramie Tunsel trade was a big deal. The Dolphins got like, you know, what, three first round picks from Texans. and they didn't get the contract extension done in Houston. So Laramie Tunsell's like, I'm the highest played player ever.

Most insane amount of leverage of all time. Yeah, he's like, well, you get to have three first round picks. What are you going to do? Let me go. You can't do it. So I think that that's the interesting thing is these teams are kind of in a hard place now. But I agree. I think there's a chance that the Steelers just played the Bears in this one.

But at the same time, like they were motivated to make this trade the bears clearly were. And a lot of times, like this is the same deal like in fantasy trades. Like if you have one side that's super motivated, one side says, no. And then the other side just says, okay, fine, I'll do a little bit more. And sometimes the, like the, sometimes they wouldn't come back and say, I'll give you more. Sometimes they just be like, okay, that's fine. We don't agree to do this. And I think honestly, the sealers probably would have been fine keeping Claypool. But the bears were motivated. They wanted to get this deal done. And that's how it worked. But like, sometimes you just have to overplay a little.

I don't really see it like as this massive overpay. Like, yeah, you're right. There's so many, so many second round receivers in the NFL. Some of them work out. Some of them don't. I do think that Claypool has already shown that he can be a good player in the NFL. He just has to, I guess, get back to kind of how he was as a rookie. But I do think he's already shown that in the NFL. So I kind of like this trade, honestly.

He's just misused. The reason why he flourishes a rookie is because I think they used him in a smarter way. Now he's just like a slot guy running out routes and getting end-arounds. That's Matt Canada's fault. Part of it is the quarterback situation for sure. Kenny Pickett, for as much as we've talked about how he has been impressive

like poise-wise and leadership-wise and all that stuff. Like he cannot throw past 10 yards. Well, they have no offensive line. They're designing short routes for him to hit. Like they're not actually, it's not like they're running go routes and he's just opting to check down. They plugged in the rookie quarterback that didn't even get backup reps and training, enough backup reps and training camp against like the last three teams that you'd want to see

in your first four starts. Well, this was never going to work. I think that's kind of my point, though, is just like what Craig was saying. I'm just sort of enforcing it. Like, reinforcing it. It's like, he just wasn't being used how he could be used. I think that what blows my mind in retrospect. Can you imagine the best trade of the year?

The Brown's got Amarri Cooper for fifth round pick. Oh, my God. How insane is that? That trade is aged the worst of almost any trade in recent memory, like, other than like the Javala Adams trade. Like, it's just terrible. Like, that is so nothing. They got a good, good player for nothing.

I just maintain that people just don't know anything. I mean, people were talking about how Amari Cooper couldn't create separation. He's not the guy. once was. He's like dusting dudes every single week on the Browns. He looks great. Although he did throw a pretty egregious pick. That's bad. It's not where you get paid to do. Bad quarterback of Murray Cooper. Oh my goodness. Okay. So trade deadlines come and gone. Are there any other teams that you kind of looked at and you can't believe didn't make them of the Packers are one of them? I think that's crazy that the Chargers didn't go get a wide receiver.

Yes. That's another one. This is nice. Come on. You couldn't go get Mims more. Whoever else is on the market? Jerry Judy. Brandon Cooks didn't get shipped. Oh yeah. Jerry Judy was out there and a lot of people potentially liked him. They wouldn't do that because that's in the division. And like, I don't think the Broncos would want to send Jerry Judy in the division. But to your point, Craig, like this is like there's something so funny to me about having

Justin Herbert who's on the short list with Mahomes and Josh Allen for like the best arm in the NFL. And they have the slowest group of people on the team. Austin Eckler is many things. He's not like a burner. And then Keenan Allen hamstring injury like Mike Williams coming back from the ankle sprain. This was already the slowest group of people. Now their two top

receivers are already are now going to be banged up no matter what the rest of the year. And their only fast guy is Jalen Guyton. He's out for the season. This was the slowest team skill group wise in week one. And now it's like one of the slower groups entering November. It's probably

one of the slowest teams I feel like I can remember, honestly. There's not a fast person that plays for the charges. I'm worried that they're, I'm really worried about Herbert's career with Staley and what the charges are doing. I'm just worried they're going to, they're going to ruin him and waste a lot of valuable time. It sucks too because like going back to Herbert's career, he's had like so many different coaches and so many different offensive coordinators. It's like, you just want to get him

some stability. No, Christobal had no idea how to use him in Oregon. Like, he's just constantly getting misused. He's like, but like you don't want to change, like honestly, then now the discussion becomes like, do you just change it again? Because obviously Lombardi's not working out. But like at the same time, if it's not working out, make the move. But like, you know what I mean? like there's this tension between changing things up constantly every single year. That's obviously not good for a quarterback's development. What if you had done this with Josh Allen because he was terrible the first two years and you got rid of Brian Daibble?

Yeah. So I think, I don't know, that's probably their point of view. But like that doesn't make it right. You know, it's just I that's probably what they're thinking. I think this is the actual hardest problem that NFL owners probably have like in terms of managing coaches is that it's very obvious that turnover in coaching kind of like turnover in a game. It's like turnover is what kills organizations. Like the reason the Steelers and the Steelers and the Ravens are the Ravens is that those teams

basically had the same person running them, the same GM for 20 years. And the Browns in that same span had like 11 GMs. And then 11 GMs had like 14 coaches and those 14 coaches at 30 quarterbacks. And that's everything. But. Yeah. And this is I think this is what this was my argument for why the Cardinals extended Kingsbury and their GM during the offseason, even though there wasn't a whole lot of, like, tangible success. I will say they have improved their record the last three years before this year. They're probably not going to do it again this year.

But I think that they just decided to choose, like, consistency and, like, not, like, having to change the entire system again over, like, the actual people that were in the building. You know what I mean? It's like they'd just rather have consistency. And obviously, sometimes it works out for teams because there's, even the best coaches have lulls, you know, a lot. other than Belichick, like, even the best coaches have downseason.

And people, I've subscribed to the fact that people need time to, like, I don't know, get your hands dirty and, like, figure it out. I mean, look at Chip Kelly at UCLA. Like, this is like, you're four, and he's finally got, like, his full round of recruits and he's turned it around. Sometimes this is how it works. Like, you actually need some time to get familiar and grow. With that said, I don't think Kingsbury's a good coach.

I was going to say, but. Take your sunglasses off. The other team I wanted to bring up here, why are the Texans not trading Brandon Cooks? I feel like they couldn't get anything for him. I feel like because he's got the 18 million next year and it's like it's guaranteed, right? So I think that they just couldn't get anyone to. Cooks did the bet he had an epic tweet today right after the trade line line went past.

He said, here's Cook's quote, don't take a man's kindness for granted. Covered for the lies for too long these days are done. Cross the line with playing with my career. Ooh, he's going to go scorched earth, I hope. I mean, honestly, that dude's been traded so many times that I don't blame. him. Yeah. Can you imagine being traded from a team and then winning the Super Bowl and then you made a Super Bowl and lost. They trade you away and then you make a Super Bowl again and that team beat you and then they trade you away and then that team wins the Super Bowl.

Well, I mean, he went Rams, Saints, Pats. The Pats lost with him on the team to the Eagles, got rid of him, sent him to the Rams. He goes to the Rams, plays the Super Bowl against the Patriots, loses to the Patriots, the Rams get rid of him, then the Rams win the Super Bowl without him. So teams just keep getting rid of Brandon Cooks and keep getting better. He's just getting foisted onto new teams. Tough for him. But yeah, fun trade deadline.

Honestly, fantasy-wise, probably could have been more fun. It really just seems like, yeah, it's like guys that you already have on your team might be slightly better. It's not really more like the ads that were going to be had. It really killed waiver-wire stuff more than anything. It's like, all right, I guess Dearness Johnson isn't useful and James Cook isn't useful. It's kind of it. DK, did you shotgun your beer yet for George Pickens putting up a goose egg?

I did, yeah. Oh, you did? I did. I did. I did. I did. Would you like to reenact it? Well, it's funny because the text thread for that group for that league was actually

trying to get me to shotgun on the show. How about this? How about this? I'm sure they'll accept this. Will you shotgun a beer right now as a down payment for the next time this happens to you? And the next time it happens, you don't have to do it. I will not be doing it. that. I'm not going to shot get a beer at my computer. What about what about the next time

fucking beer everywhere? The next time your player, how bad are you at shotgunting? Dude, it's when you pierce the can. Well, there's a method. That's the easiest part. There's a strategy. You're supposed to, you're supposed to angle it in a way where you can pierce the air bubble where there's no explosion. That's the easiest part. Well, okay. I'm not going to do it regardless. What about in the future? If a player puts up a goose egg, can you do it on the pod? No. Come on. Why? Why? It's a slippery slip, Craig. I'm not doing it. slippery slope. We're drinking right now in the pot.

I know. The slope has been slippery. We're sipping, though. That's a different. High Fitz, have you finished your beer yet? We're civilized. I actually have like two sips left.

Finish it. You won't. Look at him go. What a stud. Don't give me shit about shotguning a beer when you're sitting there drinking your kombucha, Craig. My microbiome is feeling healthy right now. I will say Craig's probably the first person in human history.

Get out of your, Craig. You're drinking a kombucha being like, you bitch, you won't shock them. That's the easiest part, says Hyphitz. You do it then, buddy. It is. I'll do it. I'm not going to shock it. I would, like opening a beer.

That's not the hard. You just have a key. DK., if you have to shotgun a beer on the pod, I will match you. Okay, well, we'll think about it. It's not going to happen today. Okay. I did do it last night. I sent the video to everybody, and I told them I was not going to be shot getting a beer on the show.

So I got a whole true of that. Can't be a flip-flopper? You guys are trying to peer pressure me. Yeah, obviously. I thought that was super clear. All right, that's all we got. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you, of course, to Adam Schaefter, who's probably better at tweeting now than he was. Thank you to Kai for production. It was a clean day for Schaefter. One of the cleaner days on Twitter. It's kind of bad for our content. Yeah. I know. Well, I am, but I was, yeah. Thank you, Lauren. Thank you, the flaming lips. Mm, nice. Why did you think of them? I don't know. Sure. Maybe it's because my lips are tingling a little. From your cores? It's the taste of the mountains, you know?

Stings the nostrils. So good when it hits your lips. I think I told the story once and then we cut it because it's too long, but short answer is I hate the cores factory because I went once. We cut that. We did cut that. We talked about that for like 20 minutes. Short version is it went to the Coors Factory and they wanted us to wait three hours in line

in 90 degree heat in the sun and we're like, well, can we drink Coors? And they're like, no. We just couldn't buy Coors in line at the Coors factory. I was just in Austin, and I had to wait two hours in line for barbecue. The barbecue was really good, I will say, but no food is worth two hours of waiting.

But they let us drink in line. They were like giving us food in a lot. Wait, do you go to Terry Blacks? No, I went to La Barbecue. Oh, La Barbecue, yes. Great. Shout out Terry Blacks. I should think Terry Blacks is like the best of barbecue, Austin.

Very good, but like two hours. Come on. Goodbye, everyone.