The Ringer NFL Show - The Free Agency Hangover, as Told by ‘The Hangover’

Episode Date: March 16, 2023

Earlier this week we played the Adam Schefter Free Agency Drinking Game, and today we have the free agency hangover. The guys check back in on players and teams around the NFL to piece together what t...hey did last night, then debate whether they should have any regrets using film quotes from ‘The Hangover’ (1:02). Aaron Rodgers (1:17) Darren Waller (13:52) Lamar Jackson (18:17) Denver Broncos (24:36) JuJu Smith-Schuster (27:07) Orlando Brown Jr. (34:11) Los Angeles Rams (37:52) Carolina Panthers (39:24) Check out our 2023 Ringer NFL Draft Guide here! Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Ben Solak, Craig Horlbeck Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's no secret the NFL has a problem with race. Think Colin Kaepernick. Think Brian Flores. But this isn't a new problem. It's one that started as far back as the 1930s, with a ban on black players in the NFL, with a past that informs the present. Blackballed is a new miniseries podcast from The Ringer,
Starting point is 00:00:21 about the four men who broke the color barrier in football. I'm your host, Chelsea Stark Jones. BlackBald is dropping soon on the Ringer NFL feed. Raff Show. My name's Danny Hyfitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly, Ben Solek, and Craig Horlebeck, and we are back. We're back. We are back. And we're the four best friends that anyone can have. And we'll never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever pop. We are coming fresh off of the Adam Chef to Drinking game. We're hungover. But the teams that spent all this money probably feel like they're hungover too. So we figured we're going to explain free agency through the movie, the hangover.
Starting point is 00:01:12 And we're just going to quote the hangover until you feel like you understand what it just happened in the NFL. That's the vibe. And it's really just a vibes day because Aaron Rogers went on Pat McAfee. And I feel like that's the only place that we really should start anyway. Danny Kelly, please do the honors, which do you have a quote from The Hangover to please explain Aaron Rogers and Pat McAfee today? I mean, look, there's honestly probably 17 different quotes from the movie that hangover. All my quotes about Aaron Rogers. All my quotes when I prepped. They would all fit this. but last night when I was watching the movie again Alan's speech on the top of the roof
Starting point is 00:01:48 to all the guys about the wolf pack really rang true Aaron Rogers and his wolf pack he's got Randall Cobb Alan Azard already signed Mercedes Mercedes Lewis just the whole wolf pack and four of us wolves running around the desert
Starting point is 00:02:04 together in Las Vegas looking for strivers and cocaine I don't know that to me that was the Aaron Rogers situation the wolf pack they're sticking together Hello? How about that ride in? I guess that's why they call it Sin City. You guys might not know this, but I consider myself a bit of a loner. I tend to think of myself as a one-man wolf pack. But when my sister brought Doug home, I knew he was one of my own.
Starting point is 00:02:36 And my wolf pack, it grew by one. So were there two of us in the wolf pack? I was alone first in the pack and then Doug joined in later. And six months ago, when Doug introduced me to you guys, I thought, wait a second, could it be? And now I know for sure I just added two more guys to my wolf pack. All right. Four of us wolves running around the desert together in Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine. So tonight,
Starting point is 00:03:13 I make a toast. What do you got there? Oh, yeah. Oh, fuck God. How are you doing? I thought he was going to start with Pat McAfee, the way that Galifanakis starts at speech. He was like,
Starting point is 00:03:25 I have something I would like to say, and he like takes out the paper. And he's like, how about that ride in? I guess that's why they call it Sin City. You guys might not know this, but I consider myself a bit of a loner. I was, watching this movie while Rogers
Starting point is 00:03:45 was on McAfee. And there were a lot of disturbing moments where Zach Alfenakis would say something and Rogers would say something. And I would not know which character on which screen said the thing I had just heard. Do you think Rogers Lazard and Radle Cobb are doing the We're the three best friends that anyone
Starting point is 00:04:01 can have driving to New York? Driving. All the flights are booked. The other one I kept thinking about too with the Rogers thing was one of the first scenes in the movie where Zach Offanakis asks Doug if you can come on the bachelor party. He's like, I know he's your brother-in-law.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And he's like, I don't want you to feel like you have to bring me like I'm holding you back. And I was like, is this Randall Cobb talking Aaron Rogers? And Rodgers is like, you're not holding us back. And he's like, all right, fine, you can come. And then like later the wife comes in. He's like, yeah, Randall Copp, he's had his bagpacked for like two weeks. There's too many. There's too many Rogers quotes.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I thought of like, you know when Alan shows up to the Caesar's palace for the first time? And he's like, did Caesar actually live here? here. I imagine Rogers finally leaving Green Bay to go to go to the Jets and he shows up in New Jersey and he's like, is this the real New York City? And they're like, no, no, it's not. He's like, did the Jets actually play in New York City? And they're like, no, no, they don't. This isn't the real Caesar's Palace, is it? What do you mean? Did, um, did Caesar live here? Um, no. I didn't think so. My Rogers one was, uh, when I got, um, Alphenaki says, it's not a purse, it's a satchel.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Because that reminds me of every time Rogers has corrected one of his words or messages in the media, it was like, I didn't say vaccinated. I said immunized. It wasn't a demand. It was a demand list. I was just telling them players that I liked. This is not a purse, all right? It's a satchel. It's clear that up real quick.
Starting point is 00:05:34 So for those of you that didn't listen to the McAfee show and congratulations for not having to sit through that. I tried. And then Riley, one of the editors here was like, no, you have to you're going to write about this later. Like, you have to watch. I was like, do I have to?
Starting point is 00:05:46 He was like, yes. Part of your job duty. Yeah. I watched part of it. It was pretty hard to watch. But the gist is he says, as of Wednesday afternoon, he already has made his decision. He wants to play for the Jets. The hold up now is simply the trade demands from the Packers.
Starting point is 00:06:04 The Packers basically are digging their heels in, as he put it. And trying to get what I think has been reported at least a first round pick, maybe a first, maybe two first or something like that. I can't. They're comparing it to like the Matthew Stafford trade or whatever. So we're in wait and see mode. Aaron Rogers, by releasing this information, has really given the Packers a lot of leverage, I feel like, because now they can really, really wait and like put the pressure on the Jets.
Starting point is 00:06:30 The Jets are going to be absolutely desperate. It's already been clear that Jets are absolutely really desperate. So the other quote that I wanted to bring into this that reminded me of the whole Aaron Rogers situation from the Jets point of view, Craig, from that same scene early on when Alan is like, whatever happens tonight, I will never, ever, ever speak a word on it.
Starting point is 00:06:48 He's like, seriously, I don't care what happens. I don't care if we have to kill someone. You heard me. It's Sin City. I won't tell us old. This is Joe Douglas to the Packers front office. I don't care how we get this done. I'll kill somebody. I'm never going to tell anyone.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Rogers went on McAfee and alluded to like not liking Schefter. Then Pat McAfee was like, what do you mean? And Rogers was like, I texted. Shefter texted me and like, asked Sheffty when I texted him back. It was like, lose my number. Good try, though.
Starting point is 00:07:13 And then Schifter, who I don't know if he was on live TV or what, that was said. And then tweets that the screenshot confirming Aaron Rogers' this report with the screenshot that says, Aaron, lowercase in his phone, lose my number, period. Good try, though. I can't believe he tweeted that. A win for both of them.
Starting point is 00:07:29 That works on both sides for me. It's hilarious. Yeah. When Rogers said that, I was like, okay, that's extremely likable. that Schefter, because the way he said it, he's like, Sheffter somehow got my number. He's like, I don't know how she'll have to go my number. And he texted me, like, trying to talk to me and I was like, lose my number, good try, though.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I'm like, that's funny. Like, that's a hilarious thing to do to Adam Schefter. And then for Schefter to, like, post a screenshot and be like, yeah, that's also good, that's saving face. I thought that was very well done by both sides. Yeah. Also, Roger's saying that is like the start of the hangover when Bradley Cooper is like a school teacher in the second, the bell rings.
Starting point is 00:08:03 The kid comes up to him and, like, ask him a question. He's like, it's the weekend, bud, Nick. I don't know you. you do not exist. Let's get out of here before there's nerds try and talk to me. That's Rogers and Schefter.
Starting point is 00:08:14 He's like, I don't know you, okay? You do not exist. That's definitely a chug your drink next year. Yeah. If we ever get a screenshot
Starting point is 00:08:22 of a rot of Schefter's texts to a player again, that's until you black out, man. That's once in a blue movie. Maybe this is the future. Instead of Schefter just copy and pasting text, he just posts screenshots of his text messages.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Also, But, wait, someone pointed out that the upset of the century is Schaefter only having four unread texts, which I think was actually really, that's a good snite. That's insane. And it's kind of stunning. I would have put it at a thousand. Also, how many on red texts you guys got right now? None, because I'm not a psycho. Six.
Starting point is 00:08:52 I have 94. Ben, are you? Oh, I fucking hate hyphitz. I have 571. God damn it. I fucking hate you guys. That's not the way to do it. It's not good.
Starting point is 00:09:04 You guys are psychotic. One of them is from my dry cleaner. Not the one's from my mom. You know like in college when like you and your house of guys would just live with like a sink that was just full of dishes at all times? That's what having 500 texts feels like all the time. Because one of those is like a health problem and you also have a finite number of dishes. I have an infinite amount of text message. I would consider them both health problems to be honest.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Yes. Do we skip over your dry cleaners text to you? Or did you like what? Sheldon Cleaners, tax me it twice a week. He's like, I do not know you. You do not exist.
Starting point is 00:09:40 It's the weekend. Get lost, Bundy, it's the weekend. Also, Schfter, to read to someone made a shirt of like, lose my number with Rogers and Chefter's faces.
Starting point is 00:09:48 And Schaefter was like, where are these available? Question mark. Didn't even put the R. Where are these available? That's a finish your drink right there. That's a finish. So finish a drink morning from Schfter.
Starting point is 00:09:58 The Rogers stuff just to button it up. I will say, it's kind of interesting that the whole week, including us, it was framed as, Rogers holding the deal hostage and Rogers is like actually the Packers are holding the Jets hostage. I think because the Packers can make this deal like they don't have to pay Rogers 60 million until week one but the Jets probably need Rogers ASAP to like, you know, do their team, which is weird
Starting point is 00:10:19 because it was reported that the framework of the trade was like done, which that part clearly it was not. I think that's kind of interesting. Every single person has a different belief as to who's holding up the deal and how close the deal is to being done. I'm nowhere on the realities of that, right? Like, Roger spent a large part of the Mackey show, bemoaning the fact that the Packers don't communicate with him and don't tell him explicitly what they want to do. A week ago, Goudicunds was at the Comb, at the Combine podium.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Like, Aaron hasn't talked to me since the end of the season. So I have no idea what he wants to do. So, like, nobody thinks that anybody has said anything to anybody else, but also everybody seems to know how everybody else feels. So to me, it's a moving target. There's no way to hit exactly what's holding up this deal right now. I will say, I'm not saying Pat McAfee's like a hard-hitting journalist out here, but I actually really respected that Pat McAfee asked him.
Starting point is 00:11:10 You know how like, Pat McAfee's like, you know, Michael Jordan, that waiter in Utah? Was like, Mike, you're the greatest basketball player ever. And Michael Jordan was like, fuck that guy. I'm going to go beat Utah. Like, you would just invent things? And he was like, hey, Aaron, like, do you think that your perception of how these negotiations have gone is kind of like you're inventing motivation for yourself? And I was like, wow, really good question.
Starting point is 00:11:28 What was the answer? I think he just started talking about. He doesn't actually answer McAfee's questions. He just kind of says, you know, I have no restaurant towards anybody. Can I also say that McAfee's like quietly really funny and like his Pennsylvania accent and just like how he like Riscilla. Rossillo, Rogers was, sorry, I was just listening to Rissillo before this. Rogers was talking about, you know, people like, he was like, Diana Rossini or whatever her name is. Like all these people claim to have sources.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And then in the background, McAfee goes, Diana Rossini, yeah, great work. Under his bread, he's like, great work. Like, he's got to make sure he compliments her. He's, like, quietly very funny. And then A.J. Hauck just sits there not saying anything. Just smoking a cigar. McAfee also has mastered asking Rogers questions without upsetting him.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Yeah. Which, like, clearly is taking some time where he asked Rogers. He'd be like, so Hackett is the coordinator with the Jets. And obviously that matters. or I guess now it matters that you're here. It maybe didn't matter at the time when it happened. But he knows how to put every single caveat in place. So that way Rogers can't answer the question with, well, actually.
Starting point is 00:12:37 And then like picket his words. By the end of it, I was like, yo, Pat, this is ridiculous, obviously. This is the dumbest thing that ever happened. But good stuff, man. Yeah, he has the cachet where, like, players feel comfortable and he can kind of say what he feels. I feel the same way about guy, like when Big Cat and PFT on part of my take, when they interview athletes, like, they can kind of push buttons and say shit that nobody else can. And the players.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Yeah, like making fun of like Matt LaFleur about what to do with three minutes left in the fourth quarter. Like do you kick it or go for it? Like nobody else can ask this question. This week was like, hey, Kirk Cousins, let's play a game. So that's Justin Jefferson. And I'm T.J. Hawkinson, hypothetically. And it's fourth and eight. Do you check it down or?
Starting point is 00:13:15 Right. Wow. McAfee's in that range. It's pretty impressive. Does this stress you guys out that he stands the entire time during his show? It's like, I'm standing right now. It's like, I'm anxious. you do this interview.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Yeah, but you're standing at like a, like a standing desk. He's like at a normal desk. He's just standing behind it, like it really awkwardly. And he just makes me nervous. I don't know. It gives me anxiety to watch him do that. I like that he's always in a tank top. He's really changing the game.
Starting point is 00:13:41 It's relatable. That drives me nuts. That I can't. What's the heating bill, man? Put on a long sleeve tea. Save the environment. Anyway. Wait, so like, did you have another quote for the wolf pack thing?
Starting point is 00:13:53 So the particular part of the Wolfpack speech in which Zach Alphanakis says, whatever happens tonight, I won't ever speak a word of it. Seriously, I don't care what happens. I don't care if we kill someone. You heard me at Sin City. Immediately reminded me. There's also a later quote where it's what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas. Of course, unless it's herpy, that shit stays with you.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Immediately reminded me of the Darren Waller situation. So Darren was traded away from the Las Vegas Raiders, okay? Vegas. The Waller trade has kind of been like in the. rumor mill for over a year now. However, Vic DeFour, senior writer of the Athletic, shared on Twitter, the trade comes 10 days after Daniel Lawler's
Starting point is 00:14:31 wedding to Aces Guard, Kelsey Plum. The timing is only interesting, by the way, ACEs also play in Las Vegas. The timing is only interesting because Josh McDaniels accidentally leaps the news of his wedding to reporters at the NFL scouting combine. Waller was upset with McDaniels when the Las Vegas
Starting point is 00:14:47 Review Journal posted a story announcing the wedding was scheduled later in the week. The couple had not publicly announced their plans to get married. Robert Griffin the third also commented on this on Twitter saying like, wow, Darren Waller just got married. He was playing in Las Vegas to Kelsey Plum was also playing in Las Vegas, tough world, cold world, that Josh McDaniels would tweet that out. And he also said McDaniels is not a romantic. And Kelsey Plum quote treated it and said, probably because he wasn't invited to the wedding, L.O.L. So McDaniels breaking the what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas rule because
Starting point is 00:15:19 Plum and Waller got married and McDaniels told people, And then trading Waller out of Las Vegas. So to me, the second I heard that, I was like, oh, this is like what Josh McDaniels is doing at Darren Waller, man. He's not following the rules. Also, that video that went around this week of Kelsey Plum, she's the point guard for the a ACEs, right? Her throwing a t-shirt into the crowd.
Starting point is 00:15:39 She literally looked like Tom Brady throwing a Hail Mary at the end of Super Bowl 42. Like, she almost threw that. Her form is like a banana's athlete. It's eerily similar to Tom Brady's form in terms of like his follow-through. That was an amazing throw. Can we stick on the Giants for one second? I know this is belated because they signed Daniel Jones like a week or two ago, but I did think about the like the man purse.
Starting point is 00:16:02 It's actually a satchel thing with them resigning Daniel Jones. Just like other teams being like, you're not really doing that, right? Like you're not really wearing that. You're not really giving him all that money, right? Like that's a man purse. Like that's a shitty quarterback. And they're like, it's not a shitty quarterback.
Starting point is 00:16:15 It's actually a dual threat quarterback. The Buffalo Bills have one. Yeah, maybe heard of it. That's really good. I like that one a lot. You're not really wearing that, are you? We're wearing what? The man purse.
Starting point is 00:16:28 You actually going to wear that? You guys just fuck it with me. It's where I keep all my things. I get a lot of compliments on this. Plus, it's not a man purse. It's called a satchel. Indiana Jones wears one. So does Joy Behar.
Starting point is 00:16:41 God damn it. Yes, high fits react. I have no response other than, yeah, Indiana Jones has one. Indiana Jones. I the the Vegas thing I had a similar one for the Vegas stuff but it was about like the Raiders with just one with the
Starting point is 00:17:03 what you go to Vegas what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas except herpes I was like one that's actually advised I would like Jimmy Garoppel and like take because I'm a little worried about him like just in Vegas I did think about when they signed him like them saying to all the other quarterbacks like not you fat Jesus slatted on back you the pretty one we want you Let's go, Hanson. Come on.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Not you fed. Jesus. Slide it on back. You, pretty boy. Yeah, that was the raiders to Andy Dalton. Not you fat, Jesus. Slat it on back. Every time Stu was on the phone with his girlfriend and he was like lying and he was a nap, he's like, oh yeah, you would actually love it. It's so quaint in here. I was like, this is going to be every phone call Jimmy Garoppel has with his mother. He was just like, it's actually amazing. Yeah, we're actually going through like wine country right now. Caesar Palache. He's the proprietor of this winery.
Starting point is 00:17:51 really, it's just lovely here. Like the salad. Like the salad. Like every time Jimmy G. For context, Jimmy G dated a porn star. Yeah. Just catching it. Just catching everyone up here.
Starting point is 00:18:03 This could be dangerous. This could be dangerous. That's all. I'm not going to lie, Craig. You really got in my head with the Daniel Jones. That kind of stuck with you. Daniel Jones man for a satchel. That's a banger.
Starting point is 00:18:14 That's right on the nose. I'm not really able to move off from that. That's really upsetting. Honestly, like all the owners colluding to not offer Lamar Jackson the contract so that they don't have to do guarantees. And I was thinking about when they're in the car and they're like, counting cards is illegal. It's like, it's not illegal. It's frowned upon.
Starting point is 00:18:30 It's not gambling when you know you're going to win. Counting cards is a foolproof system. It's also illegal. It's not illegal. It's frowned upon like masturbating on an airplane. I'm pretty sure that's illegal too. Yeah, maybe after 9-11 where everybody gets some sensitive. Thanks a lot, Bin Laden.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Thanks a lot, bin Laden. That was, I had that coming up later. That quote was for the legal tampering window. Yeah. It's not illegal. That's proud of it. That's like a meta for this whole pod. That quote right there.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Yeah. It's like masturbating on an airplane. Dude. My Lamar quotes, and there was multiple quotes throughout the movie. And I just pick out like the one-liners that make me laugh the most, I think. And that's like my schick. But Phil multiple times during the movie is talking about. And he's talking about the tiger in the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:19:25 When he gets up, he's like super hugover. And Alan comes out and he's like, oh, there's a, there's a jungle cat in there. And he goes in, he opens door. He's like, he's like, kidding. There's really a tiger in there. That's me. Every time I remember that Lamar Jackson might actually be a free agent, like this could be a thing. There's a fucking tiger in there.
Starting point is 00:19:45 And then later, they come back to the hotel after, you know, I don't even like, they're adventures, their misadventures, doing whatever. and Alan's like, what about the tiger? And there, Phil goes, oh, fuck, keep forgetting about the goddamn tiger. It's also perfect that Craig mentioned the tampering window. I'm not going to lie, I didn't realize. I didn't actually fully consider one of the most base reasons Lamar needed an agent.
Starting point is 00:20:11 And I don't know if this is just a line that teams are walking out there or if it's just a legitimate excuse they're hiding behind or it's a real excuse. I don't know. But basically, the way the whole tampering window works is really weird. basically they're not teams are not allowed technically to like talk to free agents about contracts until like Wednesday at four Eastern like basically now we're recording this but they have plenty of reasons to talk to the agents about all the other clients who are already on their teams so they start talking to the clients months in advance because they can talk to the agent including Monday
Starting point is 00:20:44 and then the all the like you know all the red tape comes off and they talk to the agents however because Lamar does not have an agent and Lamar is under contract, teams are not allowed to talk to other players under contract with other teams. And so I don't know if they would go behind his back and they don't want to,
Starting point is 00:21:02 but like teams are at least hiding behind the fact that, well, Lamar, because you don't have an agent, we're not allowed to talk to you until four Eastern Wednesday. And then I don't know if they're not going to offer him and they're like, hey, sorry Lamar, all our money's gone.
Starting point is 00:21:15 It's like the $80,000 in the bag. It's gone. And it's like, I don't know, I don't know what you guys made of that. Hey, there are Skittles in there. Exactly. But it's like, it's so funny to me that either what, are they emailing Lamar's the little, he's got the for business increase in his Instagram bio?
Starting point is 00:21:31 Like, are they emailing that address? Be like, hey, what do you think like 140 million guaranteed? How's that sound from like Jim Ursaid, Jim at colts.com? Like, is that how this works? Jim at Colts.com. I bet that's his real email. I love that. Can we do an updated prediction on where Lamar ends up?
Starting point is 00:21:48 What do we think? Oh, my God. How has no one offered him a deal? Well, it's been only, it's been like an hour. It's been 40 minutes. Give it some time. Previously, I was at like 52% chance he's off the Ravens, 48% chance he's on the Ravens for week one next year.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Now I'd put it more like 60% chance he's on the Ravens, 40% chance he's not. I think of a team right now offers him, I'd say the Colts put an offer she did. That'd be the team I would guess would do it. You can't tell me that after enduring the many post-Andrew luck seasons that he endured, including this one of Matt Ryan and Nick Foles and Sam Ellinger and the Jeff Saturday conundrum, that Jimers, they saw the team signed Samson Ebukom and Matt Gay and go,
Starting point is 00:22:29 we did it, baby. There are the splashes. Let's go. Colts return 2023. I think if anybody's going to break ranks among ownership, right, in this kind of staring contest right now of, okay, nobody give this guy a really big guaranteed deal. We don't want players thinking that they can get giant guaranteed deals. We don't want players not working with agents.
Starting point is 00:22:49 If there's an owner who is brash enough to break ranks, Jim Mersey seems like he'd fit the bill. So if I had to guess right now, he's an offer sheet, I'd say Colts. Just to give Jim Merce's negotiating strategy, just spending an hour at a time in Lamar Jackson's bathroom. Oh, man. Maybe he's the tiger.
Starting point is 00:23:07 No, but I think you're right that if there is a team, it's the Colts for everything you just said, because you do need an owner to actually just not give a shit about the other owners. Like, Al Davis would have done this. Al Davis would have done like the Lamar Jackson offer sheet. I think it's 80-20 Ravens, though. I think the question is, does Lamar just play on the tag? So one of the interesting things about that is that Lamar's been tagged,
Starting point is 00:23:28 which means that the Ravens have accounted for the space on their caps, such that Lamar's going to play for them next year. Lamar hasn't signed the tender, which means Lamar has not agreed to play for $32.4 million yet. And so Lamar can go through this entire process, get no offers on his offer sheet, walk into camp without having signed the tender, and can negotiate with the Ravens for a higher one-year deal.
Starting point is 00:23:47 He can say like, hey, like, he can't be like, all right, now put the exclusive tag on me, but he can say, like, hey, I won't play for 32.4, but I'll play for 45. And then they can go through a negotiation process. So it'll be interesting to see if we get there. Like, Lamar might refuse to play on this number, but sign a contract that allows him to play on a higher number. This is really bad because for the Ravens, that's a nightmare because then you have to do the cap for like 45 million.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And if you don't want, you want to lower that number, you'd have to put a voidable year at the end, which basically means Lamar could be a free agent, but then you don't get a comp pick, blah, or actually, you still might, but this is a nightmare. This is really, this is bad for everybody. Go ahead and name all the free agents, the Ravens have signed so far. That's why, because they don't know how much money this guy's going to cost, and so they can't really move just yet. Okay, so do you remember when they're discussing how to handle the cop car?
Starting point is 00:24:42 And they go, like, what do we do? We just burn it. And like, how do you burn a cop car? And Zach Alfenakis goes, easy. You just pour kerosene over a ferret, light on both ends, put it in. That is how Sean Payton is fixing Russell Wilson. Okay, that's how that's how John Payton is fixing the Broncos. How do we fix the Broncos?
Starting point is 00:25:00 How do we fix this guy, Russell Wilson? How would fix this contract? It's easy. We sign Mike McGlensy for too much money. We signed Ben Powers for too much money. We sign Alex Singleton for too much money. We trade away Jerry Judy. No problem.
Starting point is 00:25:12 It's not actually solving. the problem. It's not actually fixing things. It's not a reasonable, rational approach. It's just saying, listen, this year, we're blowing something up. We're throwing a ferret with kerosene on fire at both ends into this Broncos locker room. And we're seeing if Russ can live in a run-first offense in which is not really an important quarterback, even though he's making $59 million, or we're going to move on from Russ. So when they go to toss the ferret with kerosene covered in, I was like, yeah, this is Sean Payton fixing the Broncos. This is a ferret trained raccoon. He's like, Why do you have to train the raccoon?
Starting point is 00:25:44 It's like, because otherwise it won't take the kerosene. You stole a cop car. We found a cop car. We should actually get like a reward. That's Sean Pate. He's like, I'm trying to fix Russell Wilson. I should actually get like a reward. A trophy.
Starting point is 00:25:59 A trophy or something, maybe. I love the idea. Just no one wants to deal with Ross. John Pate. It's like, I'll burn it. Who cares? Yeah. I'll just light a fair on fire.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Both ends. We're good. I was trying to work this quote in, but this is as good as time as any to talk about it. And I couldn't figure out a good metaphor for this. I just want to say it. When Phil drives up on the sidewalk and he's like, you know, using the cop car privileges to just basically get around the traffic. He drives off the curb. He's like, I should have been a fucking cop. I don't know why this just like made me laugh.
Starting point is 00:26:34 He's just like a power. Yeah, exactly. I should have been a fucking cop. Maybe that's Sean Payton. that's no that's that's that's that's Aaron Rogers trying to be a GM choosing who the Jets sign up for agency I should have been a GM got Randall Cobb baby there you go or Lamar if he signs a max deal he's like I should have been a
Starting point is 00:26:54 fucking agent Bill Belichick once again absolutely bungling a free agency period I should have been a cop I don't actually want to be doing this right now I don't want to be I should have just been a policeman I got a good Belichick one as long as we're talking about Belichick this isn't he even a quote. It's just a moment in the movie. So you know at the end when they have, they're at the wedding and the Dan band is doing their thing. They're singing the candy shop. Take it to the candy shop. He's like dancing with the old lady. And he's dropping F bombs. And there's just a scene with Jeffrey Tambert dancing with his wife. And he's just staring at the Dan band like
Starting point is 00:27:29 these motherfuckers. It just reminds me of Bill Belichick watching Juju do his, his TikTok. Juju Smith Schuster signed with the Patriots. Right. Yeah, we should. Yeah, we should say. Great scheme fit, we think. Patriot way fit. I'm not sure. We'll have to see how Belichick likes the whole TikTok thing. But that's just like, that's going to be Belichick likes just staring at Juju when he records TikToks. Well, the Patriots, I mean, signing Juju this year, all I could think of last year was the Patriots came out.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I guess it was two years ago. Yeah, it was the first year we did the drinking in for Schefter. And the Patriots just went on that bent, like the post Tom Brady breakup bender. where they started looking up with whoever. And it was like, yeah, Johnny, he's throwing money around. John Smith, Hunter Henry. And it, like, it reminded me one of when Stu pulls out that ATM receives.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Like, ATM received at 1105 for $800. Like, I am so fucked. But then also I was like, you know what? What it really is, is it's Drew Rosenhouse, is Doug, the drug dealer from the eight liquor store. And he's like, wait, you try to buy Molly? And he's like, well, The guy I bought it from seemed like a real straight shooter.
Starting point is 00:28:42 It's like, you mean the drug dealer at the liquor store was a standup guy? It's like Bill Polichick's like Drew Rosenhouse. He seemed like a standup guy. I can't believe all this for the age. It didn't work out. Charge 500,000 dollars to catch. Do we like Jujo and the Patriots though? Like, part of him he's like.
Starting point is 00:28:56 He's like the only player with like some like run after the catch ability. I feel like the Patriots haven't had one of those guys in a while. He can block. Which is, yeah, it's cool. Hyvitz and I immediately just like he can block is big. That's good. they can do that. That's nice. This violates the rule. Like, when someone gets hired to do a thing and you're like,
Starting point is 00:29:14 well, they do this other thing that's not as important really well, that's always a red flag. The thing about the Patriots right now, I don't have a quote for this. But now that we know Rogers is going to go to the Jets, I feel like the Rogers thing has been so taxing from like a following the story standpoint. Like it's, it's never been so annoying to follow a story that's actually huge news. They have ceased as freaking loaded. The Buffalo Bills are the Super Bowl favorite going into last season. The Jets now have like, the Jets, I mean, beat the Bills without with Zach Wilson last year.
Starting point is 00:29:43 The Jets have one of the best defenses and now have Aaron Rogers, or at least they will freaking eventually. And the dolphins, they added freaking Jalen Ramsey. The worst team in the division is the Patriots. By a lot, like, by a real lot. And then you got Mac Jones that were rumors the Raiders wanted to trade for Mac Jones. I don't know. The Patriots, they're caught in such no man's line.
Starting point is 00:30:03 I'm like, what does Bill Belichick do in here? You know what I mean? Is he just holding out to beat the George House the all-time wins record and like to keep his sons as like a footing in the coaching world because like they're totally a no man's land in terms of what to do with this team.
Starting point is 00:30:17 It's like when they tase Zach Alf and Ackis and he doesn't go down. It's like hey Bill, just go down. Like, no, sometimes you've got to give him a little extra joel. It's the same explanation I always give, which is that Bill Belichick is a video game streamer on Twitch. you're doing a challenge run, all right?
Starting point is 00:30:38 He already beat the game seven times. He won seven Super Bowls. Now he's trying to see if he can do it with his hands tied behind his back and no good players, right? It's the only thing that's going to keep his interest anymore. Keep the interest to the viewers. Don't we see this over and over again? I feel like more and more often we see old guys who are declining or at the end of their path, just refusing to hang it up.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Obviously, look at Tom Brady. There's plenty of quarterbacks going to their 40s now like Aaron Rogers. Look at Bob Iger coming back to run Disney. Bill Belichick refusing to hang it up. It really is a thing that these guys refuse to quit. And I bet you coach K comes back. You know what I mean? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:14 This is just what they do. Craig, you're on the money. I'm upset that I can't remember who said this the other day, but it was an older guy. No, it was a player who was deciding about retirement. And they asked one of the NFL owners for advice. And the owner was like, dude, retirement is super overrated. Like retirement sucks. And like, you're so right that coach K, he's already doing so much.
Starting point is 00:31:35 media engagement for a guy that allegedly wanted to go away and doesn't want attention anymore. And like, so many NFL coaches, like, Peter out and it's kind of sad. Like Bill Parcells, like, you know, that last stretch had with the Cowboys, where Jerry Jones talked to come back. Don Shula didn't really go out, like, you know, in a masterful way. Like, there's not really a ton of coach. It really just anyone that actually goes out on top. Like, even people like Bill Belichick, it's like, I don't know if we've named it yet,
Starting point is 00:32:01 but this is actually a pretty sad ending. and the post-Bradie periods honestly has been a fucking disaster. How many shitty comedies has Robert De Niro done in the last seven years? Hang it up, Bob. And the different, they're both making $20 million a year. Who cares?
Starting point is 00:32:16 What do we like? Bob Iger, dude, you have more money than God. Do you have to go back and run the biggest media company on Earth? You're 70. Am I supposed to know who Bob Iger is? Is this one of the regular ones? He runs Disney. He ran Disney for the last 20 years and then retired three years ago.
Starting point is 00:32:32 He's doing great work. Keep it up. And now he can get into doing great work. Is this the real Caesar's palace? I'm not getting any signal on my pager in here. Is that all right? There's a phone in the hotel room. Oh, wait.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Speaking of that way, also, I'm sorry, the one, we're going all the way back to the Rogers thing, but I was thinking about it was like Packers fans, like they have a new quarterback now. And I was thinking about it was Zach Alfonaccus.
Starting point is 00:32:55 It's like, I can't afford to lose anybody close to me because I haven't been this upset since my grandpa died. It's like, oh, how'd he died? It's like, World War II. He fought on the war
Starting point is 00:33:06 No, he died skiing in Vermont Just during World War II It's like, oh my God, my first new quarterbacks Since 1991 You mentioned the beeper scene That was my analogy Just for the Bengals and free agency Can I ask you a question
Starting point is 00:33:22 Do you know if the hotel's page or friendly? What do you mean? I'm not getting a sig on my beeper I'm not sure Is there a payphone bank? A bunch of pay funds Business Is this hotel pageer friendly
Starting point is 00:33:35 Like the Bengals are just the archaic team that doesn't have a cell phone. They've got a fucking pager. Traditionally, they don't spend a lot in free agency. They're known as sort of the old school team. They've got like two scouts. I don't know. I just thought like he's not getting a sig on his beeper is very bengelsy.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Well, like they're waiting to 4 p.m. on Wednesday and no one's told them it's for it's like new on Monday. It's like, didn't Mitch Comchat do that with the Lakers where he was like, everyone's doing this tampering thing, but not me. Is there a pay phone bank? Some of pay phones somewhere? Business. We call this.
Starting point is 00:34:06 loser town. Oh my God. What else you got? A line I've always greatly appreciated when they're in the hospital trying to figure out where the wedding is and they ask the doctor where the chapel is and he tells them it's at the corner of get a map and fuck off.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I'm a doctor and not a tour guide. Yeah, yeah. That's Orlando Brown to all the teams that want him to play right tackle. Right? Orlando Brown was he was the right tackle with the Ravens, joined the chiefs because the chiefs would move him to left tackle. The chiefs had since moved off from Orlando Brown.
Starting point is 00:34:33 They've gotten a different tackle in there. And there was a report. yesterday that Orlando Brown's struggling to find a good free agent market because NFL team still view him as a right tackle and he wants to play on the left side. His dad played on on. He wants to be a left tackle. And so NFL team's like Orlando Brown, which side of the line you want to play on? And he goes, I want to play on the side of the line of get a map and fuck off. I'm left tackling on the right tackle. That's my answer to that. He's apparently going to be on ESPN today, like just talking about free agency, which I just think he said ESPN right now.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I'm bold. I'm interested to see how that goes. But yeah, Orlando Brown. left tackle, not a right tackle, doctor not a tour guide. I love that one. I'm not sure if this is a quote from Relina Brown, but I think he told the NFL teams to figure it out your big boys.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Matt Walsh, just throwing heaters. Just throwing gas that entire scene. One of the ultimate D.O.N. Waders. Yeah. He won that one. Dude, the way he pulls down the old man's fucking,
Starting point is 00:35:25 like underwear is just talking to them meanwhile, like giving this guy or whatever. And then after he pulls the underwear back up, like his face to them is just like sheer disgust. He's like, we'll see you after the weekend. And then he looks. then he's like, no, he's dying.
Starting point is 00:35:39 He's a gotter. Oh my God. Matt Walsh. Great cameo. Yeah, the Chiefs, I still think it's like kind of wild that I don't know. It's weird that they just keep gambling with. Yeah, it is. Offensive line for the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I don't know. I guess it makes sense where it's like Orlando Brown and a lot of these guys who either have agents or negotiating for themselves where it's like to be an NFL player at that level, you have to be the most confident person of the world and think you're as good as anybody. but it's also strange where the chiefs, I just think it's so strange that their left tackle is going to be Joanne Taylor, who has not played left tackle since high school.
Starting point is 00:36:14 And like, I keep thinking about what Solek said, about switching from right to left tackle sounds easy, but it's like switching which hand you wipe with. And it's like, dude, precision, accuracy. Really important. That protecting my homes. Hygiene.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Got to keep them clean. And I don't know. It's just so, like, you won the Super Bowl. And it's like, I don't, why nickel and dime unless they just, is Orlando Brown, the chief's letting Orlando. Lino Brown exists?
Starting point is 00:36:36 Are they chiefs tacitly saying, yeah, we don't think this guy's that good? Because it can't, like the $2 million. If Orlando Brown wants $22 million a year, like $22, and they gave Juan Taylor 20. If they really believed in Orlando Brown, they'd pay the $2 million, right? My main thought is this. We could have a pretty similar conversation. We could have it this time last year about Tyreek Hill and say, why are the chiefs moving on? They have a star receiver who they know it works with the homes and he stretches the field
Starting point is 00:37:05 and they need to have the ability to create plays because the way the offense is changing and like, how are you going to take this risk? I think the chief's answer would be, so long as it's 15 back there, it's really not that much of a risk. If we get like a functional tackle out there, Mahomes will make them right.
Starting point is 00:37:18 And so we feel like, you know, why should we like, you know, reach Orlando Brown's contract demands when we can spend less on Joanne Taylor. The thin part of that argument is that last year they let Tyreek Hill walk and then didn't really do anything in a wide receiver. Markisvalda Scanling,
Starting point is 00:37:32 you're just for the Schuster, but like small contracts. they signed John Taylor to a big contract. So that part I don't understand. But I think like a lot of the offensive risks that the chiefs take, I think are mitigated by the fact that Mahomes gives them a ludicrously high floor in terms of how well their offense can perform. So it's understandable that they feel like they can do more around the margins than other teams do.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I had a quote. So actually I lied. It's not a quote. It's just a scene. That entire scene where they pan through the destruction of the hotel room the next morning is the Rams. Like the Rams won the Super Bowl at night. They had the best night out ever.
Starting point is 00:38:05 The TV's flickering. Yeah. Yeah. It's like they got bowling balls, bowling pins and champagne bottles. Smoldering chair. Yeah, exactly. It's like, Jalen Ramsey grabs his high heels and it's like, I'm going to get out of here before I'm going this up. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:38:18 That is really good. The chicken. Get the fuck out of here. Let's just get the fuck out. Put some pants on, please. It's a second time I've had to ask. Yeah, it's weird that I have to ask twice. That's a great line.
Starting point is 00:38:31 I was trying to figure out a way to get. it's weird I have to ask twice in about like the contract negotiation or something. So it's just such a good moment. It's honestly, no, it's Sean McVeyer. Like, are you going to retire or not? It's weird I have to ask twice. Yeah. No, that is a good one with the Rams.
Starting point is 00:38:48 The baby, the scene where they find the baby in the closet and he's like looking around, and he's like, let's just leave it here. It's not our baby. And Stu's like, we're not leaving a baby in this hotel room. And then Alice was like, yeah, I'm going to sign to Stu on this one. That was like the one moment. He's like, we're not leaving a baby with the tiger. And he's like, it's not our baby.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I'm going to have to decide to stew on this one. That's like the one rational moment in the entire movie. I'm going to have to decide with stew on this one. I've found plenty of babies before. You found babies where? You could so tell the improvising coffee bean. Check its collar. Check its collar was incredible.
Starting point is 00:39:25 But that to me was actually the Panthers trading up to number one because the Panthers clearly just grew up every quarterback that they have. And they're like, are you qualified to have this baby? Sir? I've found plenty of babies. We've had plenty of first overall picks. We're fine. We had, we had Baker Mayfield in here. We had Sam Donald in here.
Starting point is 00:39:42 We had a lot of first-arm quarterbacks. So, are you sure you're qualified to be taking care of that baby? What are you talking about? I found a baby before. You found a baby before? Yeah. Where? Coffee bean.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Just found him a coffee bean. Speaking of Sam Darnold, the one moment from the movie that reminded me of Sam Donald was when Jeffrey Tamber is explaining who can drive and who can't drive the car at the beginning. And he's like, don't let Alan drive. There's something wrong with him. That's just, that's me.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Sam Donald's signing with the 49ers. Just don't, don't let him drive. There's something wrong. He can send him back seat. Let's let the Brock Purdy, Lance and Sam Donald being like, we're the three best friends that anyone could have. That's also like the bucks with like Baker and Kyle Trask. It's like, don't let him drive.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Yeah. My Sam Donald one was when they're trying to feed the tiger of the steak and he starts putting pepper on it. He's like, why are you putting pepper? Where are you peppering a steak? You don't even know if tigers like pepper. And he's like, tigers love pepper. They hate cinnamon. Like it's like the most obvious thing.
Starting point is 00:40:45 That's, uh, that's for Kyle Shanahan getting another like mid white quarterback. Kyle Shanahan loves Sam Darnold's. He hates Trey Lancers, right? He hates, like this athletic quarterback who could create plays who could do cool stuff outside of structure. No, no, no, no, no. He loves pepper. He loves just, it's got an average quarterback in here and just do stuff in the pocket. We need him to do, no problem. Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 00:41:08 So which team do you think waking up on Sunday morning feels the most hungover is filled with the most amount of regret after what they've done? That's a really good question. We thinking Broncos? Broncos, maybe. My first thought, like, the Packers don't feel hungover so much as, like, they got, like, alcohol poisoning. Like, they got sick.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Like, they, the amount of Rogers that they imbibed over the last 15 years has, like, broken their digestive system and they are in recovery. They got roofied. One of the side effects of roofies is memory loss. You are literally too stupid to talk to. Too stupid to insult. Thank you. That's me the tagline of this podcast. Too stupid to insult.
Starting point is 00:41:54 The Falcons spent a lot of money, but also, no one cares about the Falcons. I also think Arthur Smith, like, honestly, he might win the coach of the year. Like, it's one of them, like, they'll probably spend too much money that win the division. Arthur Smith will get coach of the year. And then, like, they might suck again the next year. So I actually don't think it's the Falcons. Dude, I think it's the Jets. Because on one hand, it's like, this sounds like a great plan for Rogers.
Starting point is 00:42:16 And I'll toot my own horn and be like, in theory, this trade's going to freaking happen. And like, it's weird that Rogers is on McAfee being like, I didn't see this coming when I'm like, well, I saw this coming. How the fuck did you not see this coming, bro? Well, he was busy. He was in a dark. room with no outside influence. For an indeterminate number of days and nights, I've done way more Rogers listening than I
Starting point is 00:42:37 like to have done over the last 24 hours. He every time he talks about this is a different period of time. He explained it. He did explain this. He did explain this. And he was like, so it's three full days. So you go on, it's five days or three. It's like a hotel.
Starting point is 00:42:51 You check it on night one. And then you do three full days and then you leave on the fifth day. So it's like depending your count. However, the best part of the Pat McAfee thing, and if you go watch one part of it, make it this, is at the very end, I didn't know this, but I guess Pac-Man Jones was like on Pat McAfee as well, just there on the set. And he was like, Pac-Man. And Pac-Man Jones was like, yeah, Aaron, so like this just sounds like prison. Like you just are in the dark, total darkness. They just give you food through a slot.
Starting point is 00:43:21 That's what I'm saying. In fact, Joe's like, Aaron, I know you've never been locked up. I have been locked up. And, like, why is this not prison? It was, like, the funniest they had ever seen. And Aaron, like, actually thought about it was like, well, the door was open. I was allowed to go. It was like, Pac-Man Jones was like, you had my kid.
Starting point is 00:43:38 I guess Pac-Man Jones's, like, son wanted to do this. Pac-Man Jones was, why don't you sit in the bathroom for, like, an hour and a half? We'll see how you do. We can go from there. Men will do anything to avoid going to therapy. Every time I think of the Niners, I just think about what Trey Lance's friends must be saying to him about going back to the 49ers. It's like, they fucked a bartender on a cruise. It's like a seventh rounder.
Starting point is 00:44:02 That's really good. Mr. Irrelevant. It's like, yeah, well, she's beat you up twice. He's like, I was out of line. Was that a line? Oh, my God. Are we going to somehow work in the conversation about how he didn't actually come inside her? Off the top of my head.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Let me see. Super Bowl. They didn't make the Super Bowl. I really wanted to bring that up, but I didn't, I just didn't know, you know, if that was grossed out. Pushing the line a little bit too much. You think?
Starting point is 00:44:35 Well, yeah, I believe her, because she's grossed out by semen. Oh my God. Oh, my God. That's either just talking about this, like, in front of the cashier. She's just horrified. Yeah, I believe. So here's a change. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:44:51 So secure in his answer. Yeah. Yeah, I believe her. She's grossed out by semen. So, yeah. All right. I'm out of, like, NFL free agency things we want to hit. I have photo of your quotes.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I don't know if anyone else actually. Do anyone still have free agency things you want to hit? Oh, Zeke Elliott got cut by the Cowboys. I don't have a thing for that. God, what's the over under on his contract? His new contract he signs. What's the number? Two mil.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Two mil? No, more, more, more, more, more, more. Seven with incentives. Like one year, seven million? How much guaranteed? Yeah, with incentives. Oh, not like five. No, actually if it's seven, four, four guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:45:29 It just goes back to the Cowboys, right? Like they cut him, but they just, they're going to make up. No, he's going to like... The Bucks is the rumor. He's going to the Eagles. Who's going to play quarterback for the bucks? Like, actually. Baker Mayfield, baby.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Yeah, probably Baker. So the Baker's contract is functioning like a $4 million deal. So they didn't give him money that's like, you're starting. He got like a fraction of Taylor Heineke's deal. That's where Baker Mayfield is right now in terms of the NFL hierarchy. With that said, if Kyle Trask starts in week one, I have to wear all denim. So Baker-Badfield is going to start in week one.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Also, all of denim is not that bad of a punishment. Well, the problem is I own no denim. I hate jeans and I hate denim. You don't have a pair of jeans to your name? No, I don't own any jeans. Jeans are horrible. Have you ever owned jeans? Did you recently purge them? You have their jeans? When I was like seven, they were putting me in jeans.
Starting point is 00:46:27 But once I got like enough wisdom over the world, listen, jeans are outdated, man. jeans are washed. Jeans are over. They've been saved out of the market. If I'm at home and trying to be, if I'm at home and I'm trying to be comfy, I'm wearing joggers. If I'm out and I'm trying to be casual or like, you know, like, I'm wearing probably chinos or joggers. If I'm trying to like look nice, wearing nice pair of chinos. And all of those are more comfortable.
Starting point is 00:46:47 They have better pocket accessibility. There's a greater color variety. Just better pants. There's no pants. category that jeans fill that is not currently filled by a better pants. You know what jeans fill is they fill every single one of those categories at once
Starting point is 00:47:03 and none of those other pants do. You can wear jeans around the house and they're comfortable. You can dress them up to be fancy and you can wear them when you're just going out to have lunch. They aren't comfortable first. You can do everything in jeans.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Also, they make jeans with like mixed fabrics. It's polyester or whatever. They have a stretchy jean shit. The technology in jeans, Ben, has really exploded. So, right. So jeans, now that they've stopped being jeans and it's started to become something different are better, I agree.
Starting point is 00:47:30 That still means that jeans, i.e. denim, sucks. He's kind of got a point. He's got a point. I wanted to make fun of him, but I actually kind of think. 100% cotton jeans or whatever denim jeans are not good. I think a pair of jeans looks great. Whenever Craig says something looks good, I'm like, yeah, Craig, because you look like you. Okay, the rest of us have got work to do.
Starting point is 00:47:49 That does not matter. work that I do is wearing chinos. And like, we're all just a bunch of Andy Dalton's. And it's like, sit down there, baby Jesus. You put on a pair of jeans. Get out there. Do a hard day's work. What was what, right?
Starting point is 00:48:02 What was Craig's first answer? He was like, it's all American. It's a, oh, this is an American product. Big Gene has mind wiped everybody. And it's become part of the American zeitgeist. I don't abide by it. I think they took over because they were really durable and people could wear them all day without them getting ruined.
Starting point is 00:48:19 And that's why they became the all-American. denim was sturdy. And back then, that was great. And now they've been passed up. They got laughed. Damn. He's out, old man.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Zines are like the Disney guy. You did great for a while. Now it's time. Bob Iger is like jeans. I bet you Bob Iger rocks a pair of jeans. He's a good-looking dude that Bob. Oh my God. I'm Googling Bob Iger to see if I can find him in some jeans.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Just Google Bob Iger jeans. Why stop there? Slacks. I'm seeing Slop. slacks, I'm seeing a suit. Okay, well, you might need to Google Bob Iger jeans. The most of his photos are probably going to be in suits. Oh. Let's check the Google.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Cackies. I got him. I immediately found Bob Iga jeans. These are a little bit too loose fitting. I'm going to be honest with you. He needs to, like, get, you know, get some slim fit ones. No. Baggy is back, D.K. Straight cut is in.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Not baggy. Straight cut. Okay, that's fine. Look at Bob here. looking great Bob here I must say this is one of our most seamless transitions from
Starting point is 00:49:29 the content of the podcast to the thing that we talk about later in the podcast that's not actually the podcast this was flawless work He's just taking your seam, Alan He's getting close to my shaft He's wearing a fucking jock strap
Starting point is 00:49:47 Have any of you ever worn assless chaps? What? He's wearing them in that scene. No, he's wearing a jockstrap. They're not chaps. Whatever. They look like ashless chaps.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Have you seen a jockstrap before? When Craig first said that, I thought that was a quote from the movie that I missed. And then I realized he was earnestly asking us if we've ever worn assless chaps. Have you ever worn a jockstrap and or assless straps? Chaps. Yeah, I've worn a jockstrap. In what context? Playing sports.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Okay, non-sports. No. No. No, I'm definitely not wearing it when I go get fitted for a suit. Yeah. To answer your question. My best man wore a vintage shrop, during my wedding.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Vintage one. Why? Yes. It was like cloth. It was made in the 1950s. And me and my group of friends, we do a secret Santa every year. And it's meant to be like a joke.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Like you give ridiculous stuff. And my one buddy gave my eventual best man. a jockstrap made from the 50s that was in his grandfather's old stuff. It was like sealed, right? He had like a bunch of these because back in the day jockstub was like a one-off.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Is this the grandfather that died during World War II? Yeah, yeah, he was skiing in Vermont. And so then he was like, all right, you got it, you have to wear this for Ben's wedding. So he was just there, suited up and underneath the suit,
Starting point is 00:51:13 cloth jockstrap, baby. And that's what he rocks for the wedding. Wow. And yet you won't wear jeans. This is him, not me. We did this whole pod without mentioning Heather Graham. Heather Graham is awesome in this movie, by the way, but maybe not any memorable quotes.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Heather Graham's had a great career. She's been good, her whole career. Can we do our own hangover trip just two days before my wedding in July? Yeah. Oh, my God, yeah. Stay an extra day because the spa's so great. Wow. Dude, I mean, I mean, seriously, like, we could totally swing that.
Starting point is 00:51:43 The real question is, is the four of them in that movie, who are they? Oh, God. With us. Don't ask the audience to separate us all out. No, please email us who is who. Who's Doug? He knows Alan. The person who's going to be named Alan.
Starting point is 00:51:58 This is so insulting. I would accept it. He's so funny. He's such a good character. He's borderline brain dead, but he is the funniest person of the movie. By a mile. Also, like, I wonder,
Starting point is 00:52:11 if you casted anyone else, the movie doesn't work. Like, the character must, like, it's just completely Zach Alfanakis, like, going full peak of his powers, doing everything, like full between two ferns,
Starting point is 00:52:21 just like, Zach Alfinackus. I don't know who you could have replaced him with. There's a certain magic with this movie where all these people are very famous now, but none of them were at the time. So, like, Zach Alfenakis was just that character for a very long time. Like, it was an original person. I mean, same with Bradley Cooper wasn't huge yet. He didn't really lead movies.
Starting point is 00:52:39 This was like his first major role. Ed Helms was on the office. And then I can't even think of the other guy's name. I forget the actor who plays the fourth guy. But yeah, he didn't do a lot either. He was in like National Treasure. Justin Bartha. He was national treasure.
Starting point is 00:52:52 That was the one. I couldn't even tell you the name of the actor or the name of the character. Whenever I see him, I go, yeah, National Treasure, Riley. Wasn't early Ken Jong, too? Yeah, early Ken Jong, I think. All right, we're getting out of here. All right, thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you, Coy, for producing this episode.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Thank you, Mike Tyson. Thank you, Phil Collins. Wow, just stealing my thunder. Okay. Oh, yeah, I forgot. Okay, yeah, you can do that. Sorry. Thank you, Lauren.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Thank you, Bob Eiger. Lauren. Thank you, Baja men. Nice. Ready to let dogs out? what do you say who let the dogs out talk about a one hit wonder
Starting point is 00:53:31 I actually think they have two hits Baham man Fun fact Liz my fiance went to a Bahamin concert What did they What did they close with? Were they the headlighters?
Starting point is 00:53:45 It wasn't a festival It was just a Baja men concert Yeah What did they close with? I bet you they opened with Who let the dogs out? It may even close if he let the dogs out. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:53:58 That's the funniest thing that you've ever said. No, I'm thinking that line when he's like, I can't do next weekend because the Jonas brothers are down. It's like, I can't do it. Oh, yeah. Yes. Baham, man. Sorry. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Goodbye, everyone.

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