The Ringer NFL Show - The Live ‘Ringer NFL Draft Show’ in Detroit
Episode Date: April 25, 2024The guys talk all things NFL draft in front of a sold-out crowd in Detroit! (0:00). They open with one final PANDA WATCH (1:54). Next, they share their bold Round 1 predictions by way of “scheduled�...�� Adam Schefter tweets (21:03). Later, they close with a special (in-person) edition of emails and bring back America’s favorite segment, Two Jargons, One Lie (44:08). Check out our 2024 Ringer NFL Draft Guide here! Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Craig Horlbeck, and Ben Solak Social: Kiera Givens, David Lara, and Jack Sanders Producers: Kai Grady, Elizabeth Fierman, and Conor Nevins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Live from the D.
That's what we've been seeing.
the signs. Is that what people
say? Not doing phrasing anymore? It says
like the draft from the D.
Is that right? Do people say that?
Okay. Oh. They're excited
about it, man. They're into it. I like that. That's good.
It's provocative.
So,
yeah.
It's going to be a fun draft. We hope you guys enjoy
the show and certainly hope
you enjoy what is really good to be
our final installment
of America's favorite segment.
Panda Watch.
That was good. You nailed that.
compelling and rich
yeah we're going to roll through our final panda watch here
and we're just going to kind of just knock down one last thing
and where these quarterbacks go
and look the bears have the number one pick
there's no mystery here
oh you got one bear guy all right bears
that's
geez the booing was louder than when we came out
that was that was dead
can we get him security on the way out
so
you're going to take Caleb Williams spoiler
however we do have an incredible
PANDA Watch correspondent.
Really, one of our
correspondents here went above and beyond
on the Caleb Williams reporting.
I tracked him down.
I flew from L.A. to Detroit
with Caleb Williams.
He didn't know I was on the flight with him,
but I saw him.
I know.
Huyves was like, I want you to give like
a full breakdown on what you saw.
And I was like, I didn't really see a whole lot.
He was in first class.
I stood next to him as I was waiting to go to coach.
You saw more than you think,
because my theory, as some of you may remember,
you can basically tell everything you need to know about a person by the way they get on a plane
and the way they get off a plane.
So I want to know some details.
First of all, what was he wearing?
Casual attire.
Like sweats?
At leisure, I would say.
Maybe like a hoodie.
Did he have the sleep roll?
Did he have the little leg?
No neck roll.
Inflatable neck roll.
He had the big over-ear headphones on.
He had them on.
Had him on.
So no one could talk to him.
Correct.
Did he have the hoodie?
Was he trying to hide who he was?
No.
That's how I recognized him.
No hood.
Laptop?
No laptop.
Did he have a bag?
Was he carrying anything?
He was looking at his phone.
Which, I kind of like this.
This bodes well.
DK, when you walk onto a plane, are you just like,
you suck, you're the worst.
That's good.
Is that would, yeah?
Okay, that's intense.
We're on the dooms I also want to play.
You don't like suck, but you're just not the type of person that I want to, like,
do business with.
Have we ever been on a flight together?
Oh, I guess not.
I hope it never changes.
I'd be worried about the results.
You're just like juggling, like, coffee.
No, I feel like I'm good at what I do, but now I'm second questioning it.
If D.K. and Hyfitz ever fly on the same plane together, just show will end.
But you won't.
I have a chaotic boarding process.
I'm like, I line up ahead of time.
I'm like, well, if I just line up in group three, then when they called group four.
Oh, I could have called that from a mile away.
He's like, I'll just ask if they have first class open.
Wow.
It fills me with rage.
Like white-hot rage.
Anyway.
I don't know, man.
Also, and then weirdly, we went to different.
last day and then Caleb Williams is just at the bar.
He's following me, I think.
That's, yeah.
That's one way.
He's counting me.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, so Washington has the second pick.
Caleb's off the board, and we think Washington's between Jaden Daniels and Drake
May and J.J. McCarthy, it'd be weird if they weren't between those three guys.
Solek, who do you think Washington actually takes?
I think by this point it's Jaden.
I think for most of the process, I've been like, I'm suspicious of it.
It doesn't seem right.
Like, Drake seems like the top quarterback.
At this point, like, the certainty seems to be there.
Everybody's got everybody who thinks it's Jane and Daniels.
And so if it's not, it's one of the best kept secrets in NFL draft history.
And it makes sense.
Like, he won the Heisman.
He has an extremely high ceiling.
It's not an egregiously bad, you know, Zach Wilson at two sort of pick.
I don't think it's that level.
But it's not the worst pick I've ever seen.
The number two overall pick.
But that was, again, thinking about that at the time, right?
It was just like, man, I don't know if I would be taking Zach Wilson over, like, Justin Fields and Trey Lance.
Like, those guys didn't work out either.
But this, like, Jaden is defensible.
I get it.
Washington, as a product overall, man,
where it's just like, hey, we have a new ownership group.
We're done with Dan Snyder.
It's going to be so good.
And then they were like, we need Austin Echler and Zacherts
and Bobby Wagner, and we're hiring Cliff Kingsbury
to run a Jane and Daniels offense.
I don't know.
I know.
The vibes are just going to be bad.
If they draft Jane Daniels, it's going to be like,
well, he didn't even want to come here.
He hated the top golf thing.
He wants to play for the Raiders.
So, look, they probably made the decision,
but if Washington probably is going to have some final meeting
where they decide that, and it's, like,
low-key, like, probably right now,
Washington's having the meeting where they just are like locking in Jaden Daniels.
Do we think the top golf stuff is coming up?
Yes.
That's why they did it.
You wouldn't do it and then not bring it up.
What are they saying?
They're talking about like who's the alpha, you know, who's like controlling the room.
So they're like, we love how Jaden Daniels hated that.
Yeah.
Is that I do think that in the event that if Jaden's not good, we absolutely in four years we'll get some sort of like, you know, during the top golf thing.
They started to question.
Like that way, this will be a linchpin for if he, if he boss.
Is this the first time this has ever happened,
like, we're just going to invite all of our guys,
20 of our 30.
Yeah, they were busy.
It's not the only time.
It's definitely the most public time.
They were a week out from the draft, and they have two.
I apologize if anyone has no idea what the fuck we're talking about.
Explain it, yeah.
Washington decided, they each get a limited amount of visits with a player,
and Washington did all of them at the same time, like the Bachelor,
and invited them to top golf.
And I do keep wondering if it was a test,
and Jaden Daniels failed,
and then they take them anyway.
So who was on the zip line the whole time?
Wait, are there ziplines at Topolf?
Yeah, no word it is.
So it's hard to explain.
Okay, so.
Detroit, Tim Robinson, wow.
Oh, Tim Robinson.
I just got the Tim Robinson of it.
I love that.
That's a good sketch of you.
The entire day,
Solac was just kind of like,
I don't know what's happening,
and I'm scared.
Yeah.
We were one of our social elites
asked to do a boomerang earlier,
and I didn't understand
what a boomer.
No, no, that means.
She said it three times.
He said it three times. So, like, no, no, no.
What is a boomerang?
Boomerangs are for boomers now.
Instagram, man.
All right, so the Patriots picket three.
I just knock something over.
I don't know what's going on.
Patriots picket three.
D.K.
Yeah.
All right.
Patriots fans?
In the house?
Yeah, boom.
All right.
What do you think the Patriots do, D.K.?
Drake May, J.G. McCarthy, trade down.
If Jane Daniels is it, too?
I lean right now.
I lean Drake May.
That's Albert Breer, reported that today,
that he feels pretty comfortable.
He's pretty connected with the Patriots, I think,
and so he feels comfortable saying it's going to be Drake May.
I think the betting odds are all over the place.
Yeah.
Like, this morning, J.J. McCarthy was plus 4.30 to go.
He's now, like, plus 180, plus 200 to go to the Patriots.
Like...
Yeah, no.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I forgot.
By the way, we love J.G. McCarthy here.
No.
So, no.
We've said that the whole time.
Go Blue. Don't worry about it.
Not that it'll inform our thoughts at all, but what is the pro-Michigan sentiment in this room?
High-fits, hype-its.
Pretty loud.
This is how you check a Michigan room.
You go, go Blue.
Right?
And then you go, go Green.
Remarkably more Michigan State than Michigan.
There you go.
Okay.
So should we tell Connor Stallions not to come on as the special guests?
Oh, yeah.
Connor, leave.
Wow.
But so, all right.
So, like, since we're outing on the boomerang thing,
I don't think everyone would believe
if I told them how long you have spent
looking at bets for J.G. McCarthy today?
Like, the amount is borderline.
I'm not, I'm like, surprised Fandal didn't flag you.
They have.
So do you think that, who do you think the Patriots take at three?
I, at this point, I think it's like 55 May, 45 McCarthy.
Wow.
With the way that, like, betting markets are,
I'm willing to buy McCarthy because of the price on it,
it very much feels like C.J. Shroud buzzed last year with the Texans,
because we heard that the Texans' ownership was starting to get involved in the process.
And right when we heard that,
we heard that C.J. Shroud was overcoming Will Levis to potentially be the picket, too.
Similar thing where you just have a lot of reports,
the anniversary of the athletic, John Kraft is getting really involved.
He's the son of Robert Kraft.
He's going to be the owner eventually.
He's getting really involved in the process.
They never named Elliot Wolf the actual GM.
They just kind of gave him GM jobs, so not a GM title.
It feels like Kraft is running the room there.
And when an owner runs the room, I expect splashing moves.
And the splashing move is the Michigan man.
Tom Brady said.
Yeah, right?
Owners go after intangibles because they don't know how to grind tape.
It's like they meet Jay Jim McCarthy.
Like Michigan man, Tom Brady, I like this kid.
I like the cut of his gym.
Oh, he wins.
To be clear, they love the tape.
He loves Michigan.
It's great.
But isn't it the most owners?
son thing ever to be like, look, guys, the last guy
went to Michigan.
I don't know.
We tried an Alabama guy.
That didn't work.
Alabama sucks. Michigan.
Yeah.
Don't worry about it.
So, it'll be fine.
If it starts, if the draft starts,
well, hopefully.
If the draft starts, Caleb Williams to the Bears,
Jaden Daniels to Washington,
let's say for a second that it's Drake made in New England.
Yeah.
And Breer at SI is right.
Then I kind of wonder if you're the Vikings who are kind of like, you know,
the fourth banana here trying to get up for a quarterback.
I kind of wonder if the Vikings could just call everyone's bluff and be like,
hey Arizona, you're going to take Marvin Harrison.
Hey, Los Angeles, you're going to take J.C. Layton to tackle at Alabama.
Like Jim Harba, that's who you want.
The Giants, like, bullshit, you're taking JJ McCarthy.
Like, you're going to take a receiver.
Titans, B.S. You're taking Joe All or some.
tackle and then they're just the falcons you know they can trade up to Atlanta that's three
spots that keep their other first rounder that's so risky though like you're you're flirting with
death there like just go get your guy like so if Denver or oak or Vegas or the giants would jump up to
forward to take uh j j j mccarthy you're just screwed and you're like wow we got way too cute
with it now we do not have our quarterback for the next however many years and you're stuck
with sam don't have sam darnell yeah that's what i said you don't have your quarterback for the
next five years i like sam don't know i'm a night i'm a i'm a i'm a i'm
We're doing this again.
Hyvitz loves getting cute with, like, draft potential.
He's like, what if the Cardinals trade back?
And trade back up, then trade back, and then trade back up.
GM's like getting cute, though.
Yeah.
It's a thing.
Well, Monty Austin for it, the Cardinals GM did it because he's like, he's like, what we do with the shadows.
He's the energy vampire.
Like, I talked to him for 10 minutes, and I was like, I got it.
I got something to do.
Like, he's like, I got to kill him.
He's like, no, do we have like 50 more minutes.
You're like, I don't need it.
He's why he's so amazing at trades.
Oh, fine.
You have to take it.
Oh, my God.
All right.
You know, with the Michigan crowd, maybe.
Do we think J.J. McCarthy falls or not?
Like, if you have to decide right now, like, do you, D.K.,
do you think J.J. McCarthy falls past, I'll say, the Giants at six?
I don't think so.
I think it's certainly possible.
I think if you look back over the, like, history of the draft, this happens every year.
We see good quarterbacks or quarterbacks at least that we thought we're going to go top five, top 10, fall into the teens,
or fall like early like 10 like I think
Peshire Mahomes went 10th overall
DeShon Watson 12th overall
you know we saw a couple years ago
Mac Jones was sitting there at 15
the Patriots just scooped him up
the Niners could have just stayed
where they weren't instead of trading two future firsts
to go up and get Trey Lance and just taking Mac Jones
and this is a sliding door moment in
you know draft history you might have been really good
in San Francisco who knows
so I think there's a greater chance
than I think most people think that he could be sitting there
especially if the Vikings
really want
Drake May, which has sort of been reported a bunch over the last week and a half,
and if Drake May goes three, and then they're just like, okay, well, we'll kind of see how it goes
and wait.
Yeah.
My read is that if May is the quarterback who falls to four, it's a big trade up.
It's a heavy price.
The Giants want them six to four.
The Vikings want them 11 to four.
Like, that feels like the bigger target, the bigger prize.
If it's McCarthy, I think the market is a little bit more tepid for the trade.
It doesn't mean you don't do it because talking about GM's getting cute.
Quasi at Ophamso is the GM of the Vikings.
traded up for pick 23, right?
Who ain't got another first rounder in this draft?
And at that point, got a little pot committed
in terms of like, hey, like, everyone knows why you did this.
It's because you want to have the capital,
the two first rounders this year,
to move up for a quarterback.
And so even if McCarthy's falling,
Questi's already got the gun loaded, right?
He's already got the package bill.
And so I imagine if the Giants get a guy,
they get him with a trade-up no matter what.
It just kind of depends on if you're paying a lot to get to four,
a lot to get to five,
or maybe a little bit less to get to seven or eight.
Well, it'd be interesting if the Vikings trade up to three
with New England and take Drake May.
So J.J. McCarthy's still on the board.
Then the Patriots, like you said, could call everyone's bluff
and maybe J.J. McCarthy could just fall to New England
at 11.
I mean, also, especially when you consider
the Patriots to double those picks.
The Broncos don't have their second round,
or they traded it for Sean Payton, which, yikes.
And then I just don't think the Raiders
want J.J. McCarthy.
Like, I don't know.
What's your favorite move that Sean Payton's made so far?
The Adam Troutman extension?
He made another good one the other day,
by the way.
Zach Wilson.
Yeah?
That's exciting.
Alex Singleton extended?
Huge.
Oh.
Yeah.
The jerseys.
It just moved a little on that one.
Josh Reynolds,
sneaky signing.
Yeah, we love Josh Reynolds.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow, it's, uh, Detroit.
All right.
Speaking of Detroit, we did some,
uh, some big moves for Detroit today.
Yeah.
Good day.
Lions extended Monross St. Brown and Pinae Sewell.
Big contract extensions.
So, and then also,
Shefter reports,
no deal imminent for Jared Gough.
It's kind of like a middle finger.
It's like a giant.
But we were having this conversation last night.
Yeah, I want to know from Lions fans,
who is currently the most beloved Detroit Lion?
Not historically, because it's probably Barry Sanders,
but I want to know right now.
And I want, hold on, hold on.
I'm going to have everybody cheer.
I'm going to list names.
Is the most beloved lion Amonra St. Brown?
Jared Gough.
Prudel.
Jordan.
Aiden Hutchinson?
Local kid.
Panaisu?
Okay.
Okay, I'll toss in Dan Campbell?
I think it's Dan.
Light and kneecaps.
That was Dan 1 and Sewell, too.
That was crazy.
We also, we got to thank you to everyone for you emailed us, by the way.
On the no cards.
It's just called mail, I think.
DK told us this is how you used to do.
Is that how mail worked?
People wrote things on letters, yes?
How did they get it from one place to the other?
Dude, don't even get me started.
I don't understand how the postal service works.
It's wild.
That's like the easiest thing.
What do you mean?
How do they sort everything so quickly?
They read it.
You wrote?
The logistics are mind-boggling.
They open up the letter, they read the letter, and they put it back in.
D.K., if I showed you a piece of paper and it said,
take this to the bar, you know where to take it.
Right.
It's just that way big of it.
There's like a billion every day.
Yeah.
They got workers, man.
It's like the largest employer in America outside the Army.
This is where...
Well, I didn't know that.
This is where hyphids goes, email us if you know how the Postal Service works.
Oh, email us.
But this isn't coming out.
It doesn't know what email.
You understand how the Internet...
You understand how the Internet.
used to come on a disc, but not understanding how mail works.
Which, the mail is what got you the disc.
That was the postal service.
I understand how it works.
I'm just talking about, like, how do they do it so fast?
You sound like Charlie, and it's always sunny
when they're trying to be in the mail room.
And it's like, not only are all these people real.
They have been asking for their mail for days.
I feel like 99 of 100 Americans are like, man,
the postal service is so slow.
And D.K. is like, man, the postal service is cooking.
They're moving at high speed.
It is incredible.
The coolest shit.
By the way, did you know that if you try and mail a square letter,
they make you pay extra to receive it?
Okay, grandpa.
Why?
You guys probably just get, like, junk mail anyway.
When was that time we got a real piece of mail?
I don't know.
It's just like...
When we were sending out wedding invitations,
my wife and I were like, let's just do...
Yeah, sick, rag?
Your ass on sex.
Yeah, Mary.
We were like, oh, we want to do electronic RCPs,
and my mother-in-law was like, no, we need to do
paper RCPs.
And we were, Liz and I were like,
we are not convinced that our friends
will literally know how to mail back a letter.
So we had to do both.
Wait, DK, tell us, tell them,
we're sorry, you guys probably wanted this,
but tell them about your Christmas card.
Tell us about the war.
Tell us about the war, Grandpa.
Grandpa, tell them about your Christmas cards this season.
Yeah, so they were square.
I heard they charged more for that.
We sent out, we sent out, like,
60 or 70, like pictures of me,
Skippy and Calvin.
and like half of the people had to pay to receive them.
They had to like leave.
It was like 67 cents in the mailbox the next time.
And then no one under 40 has any change.
They should have left like a barcode for Venmo.
That would have been easier than being like, hey, can you drop off three?
So I'm like sorry for sending you that letter.
Why don't they like the squares?
Why aren't they into it?
Because the automatic sorters can't do squares.
So you do know how it works.
You have seen the movie.
Kind of.
Now I know more.
I wouldn't have forced people to pay money to get our Christmas card, though.
All right.
Well, anyway, we got an email on a piece of paper.
So that's really what we're like all the time.
It's just not.
So since you guys love Penae Sulla, we got an email from Zach.
Zach.
Zachary.
I don't know why I did it that way.
That was weird.
Where would Penae Soule or Rishan Slater be drafted in this offensive tackle class?
Which I like the question a lot because you've heard a lot about Joe Alton and all these other guys.
Sewell's one for sure.
I was going to say first.
Slater's interesting.
Slater, I feel like...
And are we basing this off
what we know of them now,
or they're them coming out?
As prospects.
Like, Penny was like a rock star
of a tackle prospect.
Like, him going six.
Like, that was the,
that was the, the,
Brad Holmes, like,
chest bumps slammed the table.
Yeah.
Like, they thought...
Great drafter.
They thought, yeah,
Brad Holmes's never gonna have a bad draft.
He's on a heater that can't be stopped.
You're never gonna die.
You can't prove anything
because that was the take perch.
No takes from that are real,
including ones I put on the printer.
Did you put that show?
Up?
Yeah.
It's louder.
Oh, they cut it on the mic.
Guy!
Anyway, so I think Sewell's tackle one.
Slater, Slater's probably going after all.
He's going more in like the Fugga range, the J.C. Latham range.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But Sewell would have been one in this class.
Good question.
Okay, so shout out to the Lions.
That was really fun.
And also, real quick, little cheeky, since they love these.
Monro too. I'm curious. So my highest paid receiver in the NFL now.
Yeah, most guaranteed.
Once you're the highest paid receiver in the NFL, you're no longer allowed to have a chip
on your shoulder. I was going to say, what are we going to do?
If he ever lists the players who went ahead of him again at wide receiver?
No, sir. You have $30 million. You're fine. Get over it.
Got it, you know, got to remember he came from.
All right. So we're doing something right now.
And we were talking, because again, Schaefter reported some of that.
I, you know, Rapp reports some of that too, but Schaefter reported some of the stuff.
I'm talking to the Schefter tweets.
And then we were thinking, obviously there's the draft tomorrow,
but then we also were wondering what's in Adam Schefter's drafts.
Because Shefter, let's be real, is kind of just going to get all this information ahead of time.
He's going to be doing it on TV live.
Yeah, and he's going to be just like tweeting on the side from the ESPN set.
And we were wondering, like, what are the, not our bold predictions,
but like what are our bold predictions, but can you also tack on what the weird ass Adam Schefter tweet will be?
Right.
That lets all of us know that when you check what will it be.
So I kind of want to run through...
This is essentially Adam Schaefter fan fiction.
We're really escalating our relationship with Shepard.
You're like it's going to be extremely accurate, though.
We do it under his sleep.
So, D-Kal, like, you're the one who pointed out years ago to us how weird Shepter's Twitter is.
He's gotten better. He's on to us.
Yeah.
But yeah.
I think we shamed him into it.
You're all like how they shamed Reggie Bush getting his Hizman back.
But...
Oh, wow.
All right.
Reggie Bush fans in the house.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I know.
What are the demographics in this room?
We'd ever go to school, I don't get it.
So, oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, dumb.
I realized that halfway after that.
I was wondering, yeah.
That was so dumb.
Yeah, yeah.
It's all right.
Still, I hadn't been born yet.
D.K.
I was born.
What, D.K., what's your,
D.K. was working in the mail room when you were born.
Okay.
I'm a man.
I'm 40.
D.K., what is your, what's your Adam Schaefter tweet is going to go live tomorrow?
Chefter, your future tweet.
All right, here we go.
Quarterback, Michael Pennix,
tore his ACL in a non-contact injury
while training on Saturday,
is a headline that some team's fear.
But not something the Raiders are worried about right now,
and they select the former Washington quarterback
with a 13th overall pick.
Shefter!
He did that with somebody this year.
He does it all the time.
Was it Derek Henry? He did something this year.
Hunter Henry.
Hunter Henry tore his ACL on this day.
Two years.
Years ago.
Anyway, he's healthy and happy right now.
Oh, have I ever told you guys that the literal doctor from Rested Development
where he's like, he's going to be all right.
Can't use the left side of his body.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's like my, or fiancist, mom, is like that.
Congrats.
Congrats.
But she literally tells stories that way.
Yeah.
She literally just, that's how she's on the edge of her.
She's a marketer.
That's impressive.
That's good writing.
What do you think about my future tweet there, about Pennix?
I know how you feel.
Yeah, I mean, like, don't...
It's not good enough to go in the first round, so don't take him.
But what else are the Raiders going to...
Unless the Raiders send a Godfather offer up to, like, three or four or whatever,
like, then what?
If they don't draft a quarterback at 13, they're just heading into this year...
You go and get the Panthers the first pick of the second round.
I think the Raiders take him on day two.
I really think that, like, Tonya Pierce probably wants Michael Pennax in round one.
Tom Teleska, the GM probably doesn't want him at all.
And the compromise is, we'll just do it in the second round.
And honestly, a belated take-perge,
I kind of think Pennix is going to win work you the year.
He's going to be incredible immediately.
I love it.
I think that's unlikely.
I think that's unlikely.
Yeah.
The Raiders, like, what will they do?
They'll play Gardner Minchew.
Like, Minchew went 500 last year.
Like, they gave him $25 million.
None of us are going to be excited about that.
But two years ago, we were all excited about Bernard of Minchu.
We were like, look, he's got jorts and hair.
Crazy.
Are we, like, kind of worried about Minchew in Vegas?
But isn't that, like, the exact opposite of what you want to do?
So you're going to play a guy who's going to make you go 500 with a 31-year-old high
paid wide receiver and then you just head into next year with the exact same draft pick and
nothing and no good quarterback prospects?
Yes.
When have the Raiders ever done what you're supposed to do?
All the Raiders do is why not you're not supposed to do.
It is poor to expect smart things from the Raiders.
So honestly, it's a good prediction for penics.
All right.
So, like, give us your prediction for not just what happens tomorrow, but what Shepter tweets
about it.
I went for one of the Shepter tweets where like all of the sentences make sense by themselves,
but next to one another, there's just no connections.
And so Rams general manager, Les Sneed, and Rams head coach.
Sean McVey, felt something special from
23, fifth round wide receiver
Pooka Nakua. With their
first, first round selection since quarterback
Jared Gough, they feel the same way about
Texas wide receiver, Xavier Worthy.
And you're like, okay, so did they pick him?
And then, Worthy ran a 42140
yard dash of the NFL Combine,
the fastest time ever recorded. Now he
brings that speed to Los Angeles.
You're like, oh, he is a ram.
Okay.
Anytime you have to be like,
uh, okay, I'm gonna,
Yes, yes.
Yes, he picked, yes.
I understand that.
Worthy at this point, like, this is the biggest riser of today has been Xavier Worthy.
Like, he went from, like, fringe round one to, like, he's going before Adnan-Mitchell.
He's going up there with Brian Thomas.
I think that the 4-21 is catnip, and NFL teams are going for it.
I very much expect worthy to be around one player.
And if there is a coach in the league, who with his first, first round pick in eight years, is like, I'm going to take the fast guy.
It's Sean McVeigh.
So, you know what?
Let's play a game.
Xavier Worthy, 511-165?
Yes.
Will you stand up if you're 5-11-165?
What if you're 5-7-165?
There it is.
Xavier.
You're ready to...
You ready to...
You're ready to crackback block
Patrick Queen?
Like, can we...
For real, though, like, he can't block...
Like, how could...
Can he play football?
Sean, we have two to act well at home.
I was good to say.
We don't need one.
And everybody hated that thing.
And everybody will be excited about working.
because they'll be able to post the 40-yard dash video again.
And he's fast.
I don't know how to say this in an eloquent way,
but like, is Xavier Worthy good at football?
Yeah.
If he ran...
If he ran a 4-3-1, when would he contract it?
No chance, first round.
Not a chance.
Yeah, yeah.
Nah, this is the 4-21, man.
It's faster than 4-3-1.
A whole tenth of a second.
The thing I keep thinking about,
so Brian Thomas, the receiver at LSU,
ran a 4-3-1-40-d-dash,
so a tenth of a second slow.
Is flying 20 in the last 20 yards of the dash?
Same speed as Xavier Worthy.
Faster.
Yeah.
And he's 45 pounds heavier.
Like if Xavier Worthy had to carry a 45 pound barbell with him,
like a dumbbell, like a dumbbell running,
and he ran only a tenth of a second slower,
you'd be like, all right, that's pretty impressive.
Brian Thomas, how on earth could Xavier Worth
could Xavier Worthy go ahead at Brian Thomas?
Xavier Legat ran 4'3, 221 pounds.
Big man moving fast.
They get it.
They know.
We like big fellas.
Healthy young man.
Healthy young man.
Well, the thing about Xavier Worthy that I think is, like, misleading a little bit is, you know, the 4-21, he sounds so fast, obviously, he is fast.
But that didn't really, like, show up last year in terms of, like, the way they used him in the offense.
He was mostly, you know, short and intermediate, run after the catch, all that stuff.
Like, he had, like, it's two-two.
Is this basically NFL being, like, Quinn Ewers, the Texas quarterback sucks and they can't, they couldn't get him the ball?
Yeah, we have Dave Laura here, who's with social with us, and he's a Texas guy, horns down.
And there's no more snowflake thing in college football
than being like, you can't turn it upside down.
Like that's...
He asked us if Quinn Ewer's like his first round,
our first overall pick next year?
Like, dude, probably not round one.
Ewers is not it.
Right.
Yeah.
Next up here.
Craig.
My Shephty tweet?
Okay, per Adam Schaefter.
The Buffalo Bills will not be drafting a wide receiver
because they have just found their stuff on Diggs replacement.
And Blockbuster trade, the 49ers are planning to trade
wide receiver, Brandon I, I,
to the bills, sources tell ESPN per sources.
The bills will sign Brandon IUk to an extension
to make him one of the highest paid players in the NFL.
There you go.
That's really good touch. Good touch.
That's great.
Thank you, thank you. Thank you.
I love this for the bills.
They need a wide receiver.
There's nobody else.
I just can't see them relying on going to get 80 Mitchell or something at 28,
which I think they would need to send to New England or to San Francisco for IUC.
But look, man, the bills couldn't win with Stefan Diggs,
and now they're going to try to win without it.
That just doesn't make any sense.
I got to tell you, I've been thinking about this.
There's big Ewing theory potential with Stefan takes.
I don't know, man.
He dropped the game-winning touchdown.
We don't even talk about this.
I mean, he's been pretty good.
He's been good at the last couple years.
I like Ayuk to the bills a lot, although I will say,
Brennan Eukes shooting up the wide receiver diva power rankings.
I don't know if anyone checked his Instagram story,
but after Amonra signed that deal, he was just like dancing.
He did a little 30-second dance in his story.
So I like the bills a lot.
and I'm wondering what the competition is
for other teams that could trade for Brandon Ayuk
because part of me thinks
the Niners don't want to deal.
And part of me thinks, I don't think the Titans
were going to deal AJ Brown.
Like, this stuff happens all the time.
So I'm kind of what I feel like the list is
the Colts, the Jaguars, the Steelers, and the bills.
Contain yourself.
And I'm wondering, so like, which of those teams
do you think is most likely?
Do you think it's the Bills?
Oh, I think the Jaguars.
Like, I would say,
Jacksonville, once Jacksonville didn't get
the Calvin Ridley deal done,
they really quickly were like,
we're meeting with Malik neighbors.
We're meeting with Roman D.
Like, they were very much ready to go, like, we want our elite receiver.
I don't think they want to go next year with Gabe Davis, Christian Kirk, and Enze Jones.
I don't think that's the plan.
And so I think that Jags are a good candidate to trade up for one of the top three receivers.
And if not that, then I think that they're a candidate to go get Brandon Ayuk.
It's tricky, though, because they just got Eric Armstead and kind of gave him the Calvin Ridley money.
So I don't know how easily they have the cash for that.
With that said, if I were any team picking between, like, 13 and 23 in the room, we're going to decide what player we're going to draft.
And then right before we draft them, I'm going to call.
John Lynch, say Brian Ayuk for 21.
He's going to say, no, and say, okay, and I'm going to pick the guy, right?
But you have to go and you have to check your work.
Because, like, Iyuk at that value, that's good.
You think there's a chance that they trade Debo instead?
I would.
And then sign Ayuk.
I would.
That would do that, too.
That would do that, too.
Because you've got to pay the Debo dead money.
That's more costly.
Depot just...
I didn't look it up.
I just thought of it.
Fair, true, good.
Sorry, I don't know.
It's weird how much content we've gotten from, like, you know, you can Google that.
You know, but what have we did?
Like
This is what I was like when I was...
The last 20 minutes of our show
are just usually like,
you could Google how a refrigerator works,
but we're not going to.
Dude, how do ice rinks work?
Look, I'm giving you guys a taste
of what life was like
when you had to look things up
in an encyclopedia.
And Joey from friends,
he only has the V.
So no one here thinks
the Steelers are going to go get Ayyuk.
They just restructured
Alec Highsmith's contract
to open up seven million capsize.
There's no better fan bait
than restructured in a contract.
I love it.
Absolutely.
I would be constantly restructuring contracts, but then not leaking it and just dropping at opportune moments.
T. Higgins wants a trade. 30 minutes later. Oh, I restructured Dallas Hizman's contract. You got to do it.
Look, we've got the 20th pick in the draft. It's perfect. We're going all in this year. It makes no sense. This is kind of a one-night stand of a year for Pittsburgh.
Let's go all in. Try to get frisky. See what we can do. And then go from there.
Your one Steeler fan is really excited.
The argument against it is like every receiver of the Steelers drafts is great. So why wouldn't they just once again wait until the second round?
He's also too selfless.
Like, I know he's upset about the contract down,
but he, like, blocks.
I feel like Steelers, I've been a guy that really blocks.
Like, George Pickens kind of does it when he's mad.
He likes baking people, only when the cameras are on him, I feel like.
Hines Ward did it when they were no games.
Very performative blocker, George Bigg.
Very much.
Better than not a lot.
He's like, better than 90% of receivers.
It's like, it's not great, but it's still better than not.
He's like virtue signaling, but as blocking.
Russell Wilson.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's harder than not donating.
You mentioned T. Hagan.
though. So the Bengals are like revolting today, I guess.
From Shafter. Bengals, three-time Proble
Defense event, T. Hendrickson, has requested
to be traded from Cincinnati per league source, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then
T. Higgins also has requested to be traded,
being that there have been no, I know, right?
No contract talks with the team now in over a year. Now, to be clear, I don't know if
Schaefter's just like remember that or saying it happened again.
But, D.K., who do you think is more likely to be traded?
Brinna Yook or T. Higgins?
Ooh. I don't
I don't think they're going to trade D. Higgins because I think they're doing the same thing.
They want to go all in this year in the final year of Higgins deal and win a Super Bowl.
They think they think they can win a Super Bowl.
So why would they trade away one of their best players?
So I don't think they're going to trade him even though he wants to be traded.
So Iuke, I guess.
Yeah, the T thing is tricky because they very clearly want him and they plan to be Jamar and T and Joe this year and go.
Trey Hendrickson, man, they have no one at edge blind him.
Like Sam Hubbard's been banged up.
They drafted Miles Murphy last year in round one to be a developmental guy.
he barely broke onto the field.
Joseph Osai hasn't been what they wanted to be.
They got nobody.
So they can't afford to deal Trey.
Like, I have no idea what Hendrickson's going to be able to get out of this.
If he's just positing for an extension, I guess maybe,
but I don't see how Cincinnati lets him go.
I almost think that as much as it seems like to Cincinnati is like,
oh, yeah, we'll go for the Super Bowl now.
It's like, dude, the 49ers, I really think, are,
if they don't make a, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, sorry.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it.
If it helps, they are going to be psychologically destroyed by losing the Super Bowl.
Yeah!
I love it.
Good!
Wait, what's that meme of the guy who, like, looks around or the crowd's cheering?
He's like, oh, God.
Pretty good.
All right.
My little Schifter one is, this is the end of the weekend.
It says, Denver is not panicking.
Nobody panic.
Despite hashtag Broncos.
despite hashtag Broncos
not taking a quarterback in this
draft football emoji.
It's always one.
Sean Payton Broncos H.C.
has expressed, quote, extreme confidence
in Jared Stidham and Zach Wilson
as their quarterbacks.
Wilson, former second pick in 2021,
excited for new opportunity closer to home.
And I say that because the Broncos,
there are like seven teams that need a quarterback.
There's like six quarterbacks.
And I do think Denver is the one
that's going to end up
like without a chair in the musical
chairs and then Sean Payton's going to have to kind of grin and bear it and I'll have to do
I guess it's called a Sean Payton when you kind of just dip and then
who are the seven teams it's it's bears commanders Patriots Giants is four Giants Vikings
Raiders Broncos oh I think what I think the Giants of the team that ends up without a
quarterback but I think Drew Locke is our quarterback we have got one exactly you have your you
have your bridge quarterback you have your developmental guy Drew Locke there's definitely
some untapped potential there that no one's
discovered.
I do think Drew Locke, have I given this?
I do think Drew Locke is going to replace Daniel Jones in, like, October.
All right.
I worry sometimes about how much we bully you.
And if Drew Locke is the starting quarterback for the Giants, it's going to get real dangerous
real quick.
Dude, you know that meme of, or not meme, it's just a thing that happened, the Simpsons
where, like, he's like what's going on in your head and it's just a monkey with symbols?
Yep.
I think that's what Drew Locke's got going on all the time.
Hey.
I watched the Eagles lose.
Is that mean?
I watched the Eagles lose in prime time to Drew Locke, where all he just did was like blackout
throw nine balls, and it was infuriating.
Most frustrating loss of the year, we lost to Zach Wilson.
There's still nothing better than High Fitz getting wrapped up in the Tommy DeVito thing,
and the Giants won like two more games than they should have,
and now they don't have a top three-pick.
By the way, Hifitz showed up yesterday wearing a Tommy Cutlitz t-shirt.
Yeah, where the Cutlet's shirt go.
That was today.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah.
Tommy Cutlets, baby.
Literally beat three of the four teams picking out of the Giants.
So if the Giants take McCarthy at six, they have four quarterbacks.
They have McCarthy, Daniel Jones, Drew Lodge,
Drew Locke and Tommy Cutlets.
Who are they cutting?
Tommy Cutlets?
Well, he, you can cut Tommy Cutlets because he's not, he lives at home.
So he's like, he's the closest phone call away.
Yeah.
He's like, you put him on the practice squad.
He could walk to work, you know?
Will you burn the shirt in effigy when they cut Tommy?
I would probably donate it to him.
Oh, performative donating to charity.
Yeah, he can't do his own laundry, I guess.
Should I ask you a question?
Are Giants fans still in on Tommy Cutlets?
I feel like America walked away from him.
So fast.
No one's gotten walked away from faster than Tommy Cutlets.
Everyone's having their Tommy Cutlets walk a shame right now.
Man, what was I doing?
Just because you guys forgot.
That was literally hype at the series like,
I don't give a shit, we're winning.
And now he's like, God, we have the six-pict of sucks.
Yeah, me selling.
Yeah.
Me reaping.
No.
But that, all right.
So other, other news.
we got going on here.
Bill Belichick, per the athletic,
will have, quote, anticipated recurring
role with the Manning Brothers
on ESPN's Monday Night Football at Peyton and Eli.
And I was like, this is awesome.
And Solac at the Italian Deli,
Rokos, thank you to everyone to email.
Yeah, Rockos is great.
Solac was like, no, this is terrible.
This is a huge mistake.
Take part. Manning cast is not good.
I agree with that.
Thank you. Thank you.
Everybody who booed is not.
But out of all the guests you could have,
I think Belichick is in the upper echel.
literally the best one.
He was Peyton's nemesis
and then Eli can give him shit.
Right, but like how long are you going to watch
the Manning cast because Belichick was
Peyton's nemesis?
No, Belichick will not talk.
At minute 38, like, man, this guy
was his nemesis.
Oh, I think Belichick is going to be, like,
very illuminating and articulate
and he's going to be out to prove people wrong.
He's like, look, I still got it.
The problem to me with the Manning cast
is that they look at it as,
we want people who aren't going to watch this game,
so we're going to bring the rock on.
It's like, oh, Kevin Hart
It starts joining.
You're like, okay.
And the Manningcast is actually at its best when it's like John Stewart comes on for the Giants.
And he just is like, why are you asking me about myself?
Why can't Eric Flowers block?
And he's asking, you're like, no, really, Eli, why does Daniel Jones suck?
Or even guys like Russell Wilson and Tom Brady being like talking through a two-minute warning,
that's actually where it's at its best.
I don't think Belichick's going to entertain like bullshit about like, hey, remember your dad?
And he's like, no, no, no.
Like, yeah, Belichick talking about clock management while like the Jets with Robert Sala
Nate Hackett are like blowing it.
Like, I think that's actually incredible.
I think it's going to be a sick social breakout.
That two-minute clip that we get.
The rest of it's going to be Bill Belichick, who we've seen Bill Belichick as the podium.
He has all the personality of a beige wall up there with Peyton and Eli who aren't good hosts.
Peyton's, uh, but we talked with the plays and everything in the Eli's just there,
like looking this direction when the camera's here.
It's there's no one on the show who's good at being on TV.
They're 0 for three.
I love what it's like, it's like third and two, and Eli Manning's like,
Jason Bateman, what he thinks going to happen here?
And Jason Matman's like, I don't know.
I think we're going to run it?
Dude, they keep asking guys to guess the play.
They're like, you're Peyton.
You can watch Payton get callouts from his producer,
where he's like, oh, he's like, oh, you know, Travis Kelsey.
So you're Dayton, Taylor Swift, that's crazy.
And we're going to go to commercial.
But when we come back from commercial,
I want you to answer about Andy Reid.
You're like, dude, just put the producer on.
Like, you do not know what you're tossing to.
It's not good television.
Belichick will be good if only because he wants to be better.
than Brady. Right.
Right. At it.
Yeah, then that's a good segue way, because Brady
is allegedly going to be a, you know,
a broadcaster for Fox.
Although that date keeps pushing, because I don't think
Brady's going to be good at all. Everyone's all in on
Brady being a great broadcaster. I think he's going to be
terrible. He's such a cornball.
Ever since he's retired,
everything he says sounds like a, it came from
like a motivational poster in a college dorm room.
He doesn't say anything. He sounds
like so angry he's not playing football
every time he speaks. I love how all of Brady's
aesthetic choices are to make him
seem younger and then all of his
comments on the league are like, are you 90?
Dude, it makes him seem
so old. These kids are all me, me, me.
None of them can't be that way. They're none of them know the
plays and you're like, yeah, you're not me, me,
you're wearing like TV 12 all over the body.
Trying to look 29 years old
wearing like eight Super Bowl rings. My brother.
This is honestly a take bird.
Brady did the worst possible thing with his career
because he picked the worst way to retire.
That's a crazy take bird.
At the end, the end.
That's unbelievable.
You should have done it again.
No, I mean like the end.
Hold on.
You got to let him go.
Don't edit this to seem like it said, I killed that man.
He either needed to retire once or unretired twice,
because the first retirement, he would have walked away,
and he would have, in this final season at 44,
led the league in passing yards
and come back from 24 points down in the divisional round,
and then the defense blew the lead at the end.
But he would have done a 24-point comeback in his last game
and then just walked away.
His last throw was that deep ball to Mike Evans for the touchdown.
Then he came back, then his life blew up,
got divorced all this stuff.
But then honestly, they literally told Brock Purdy last year
I started bringing up the Niners.
But they told him, you will be a starter
unless Brady comes in place for us.
The Niners would have won the Super Bowl
if Tom Brady was playing for that team.
And it's like he should have like stayed retired
or come back and won a ninth Super Bowl.
Hyphitz talks with so much confidence about Brady.
Like, he just, he feels the most humorous.
Well, we beat him twice.
I'm not afraid of what I'm getting at.
He's like, you can't tell me shit about Brady.
The fact that he won twice.
The issue is that the summary of that take,
like the one-sentence line is Brady's legacy is incomplete
because he didn't come back and win a ninth Super Bowl.
And that just doesn't really land.
Oh, my God.
Okay, we have, this is, wow, we really should have led with this.
This is the biggest news.
Applebee's has officially partnered with the NFL.
Yes.
The wait is finally over.
You guys like Applebyes more than Jared Goff.
Wow.
On April 16th, Applebee's and National Football League
announced a multi-year partnership designated
the chain restaurant is the official
grill plus bar of the NFL.
As part of the
tailgate ready, did Adam Schiff to write this?
As part
of the Tailgate Ready Alliance
Apple Pieces offering a free wings deal.
Tailgate Ready Alliance?
That's a mad Max.
Hearing up for battle against Chili's.
It's like Outback Steakhouse
will fall tonight.
And for those
They...
Go see the movie Civil War.
But for the real ones who remember, it was Niners Eagles, where the guy got hurt.
And they're like, the guy just writhing in pain.
And they were like...
They split screen to a commercial as a guy's like knee is in half.
And it's like, stop me up.
And it's like new at 2 for 20 appetizers.
My leg!
Got to sell those ass, brother.
They're like popping his leg back into his hip or something.
His like career ended that day.
And they're like, anytizers at Applebee's.
Flame grill.
Ivan, do you have to finish the read, dude?
You didn't get through it.
Start me up.
No, as part of the tailgate radio lines,
can't get it.
Tailgate radio lines.
Applebee's is offering a free wings deal
just in time for the NFL draft,
which is happening from April 25th to 27th.
We should have done this from an Applebee's, huge miss.
Yeah, what do we...
No, we love this venue. Thank you.
True, true, true, true.
No, really. Everyone's been great.
Thank you, everyone.
I think it's time for some emails.
emails.
Thank you, everybody, for literally.
writing in.
Yeah, it was...
People put their email address on some of them, too.
Did they?
Yeah.
Just in case we want to email them back?
Yeah.
We're going to see them in person.
We're going to scan it.
And then...
Also, yeah, if anyone wants to email us, like, on...
Well, no, don't actually do that.
But I was wondering, you know,
if anyone, like, knows how the mail works,
that'd be so convenient.
But we got it in there?
What's going on in there?
I don't know.
I lost the other.
Are you rumaged?
We got that.
We got one from Scott.
For a second.
For Scott Davis.
Got it.
Ben, why do you hit?
hate eating. I don't. That wasn't the take, and it was very clearly not the take. The take was
that eating is overrated. Never had any... Anytizers. I don't care about your booze. I don't care about your booze.
I've seen what makes you cheer. When you hear eating, you think of this wonderful meal that you
had at this restaurant. Oh, it wasn't so incredible. Applebee's, yep. Yeah, apples. Anytizers. But the
average meal is not that. That's the high tail meal. That's a 95th percentile outcome. The average
meal is you figuring out for yourself, it's not nearly as good. Hey, let me ask you this.
If you didn't have to eat for sustenance,
if you didn't, if you didn't have to survive,
how many meals would you have a day?
Five.
Same amount.
I would eat more.
Right.
No, if you didn't have to eat for susten.
I get bored like four times a day, so.
So you're saying that you just cook a cassidia for the love of the game?
Yeah.
100%.
Just to burn eight minutes.
Fliping that, John?
Yeah, yeah.
That's not me.
It's a ritual.
Look, this is a great take, not because it's right,
but because it's a hot take.
And that's the perfect take.
I'll be honest.
I received remarkably more support
than I believed I would.
I thought it was going to be like
19-0-1-yes.
I had several people being like
you finally have expressed
what I have long-bellers.
That reminds me of when I said
the Sonny, Sunny thing
and I pronounced it's Sonny Jurgensen,
Sonny and Cher.
No one supported me public.
But many people privately DM me
were like, I learned I was wrong from you.
Thank you for being first.
Witness protection for people who
say Sonny. We're all frontiersmen.
We're all just helping people move forward in their lives.
Discover new things.
Yeah.
No one will publicly admit the Maestro, but a lot of people have said,
wow. Didn't know about that.
I believe you a little bit on Sonny. I do not believe you on Maestro.
I want the receipts.
I can never reveal my sources.
If anybody listens to Bill's podcast, I said Maestro on it the other day,
and I almost said Maestro. I was so close as a bit.
I barely say it.
Ironically, Bill is the only one who would understand.
Bill probably would just say Maestro.
He'll pronounce this more stuff than me.
Just no one tells him to his face.
A idiot.
Like, it's just like,
go,
like,
me and Solarco like,
yes.
Get you fuck him up.
Dekin literally licked his chops in that video.
All right, anyway.
All right.
This one's from Brittany.
Brittany.
Brett.
It's just Craig, comma.
That's loud.
All right.
As a former T-Titon listener,
flex to Craig.
Nice.
I always laugh when I hear Liz do the
take purge intro. How did the recording, how did the recording for Liz come about? Did you go to
Liz and say, hey, babe, we're doing this take purge thing on our show. Can you record it for me?
Yeah. That's how it usually goes. That's kind of exactly how that went down.
Were you there? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that has lived on. That was like five years ago.
And the Chris Sims, a little bit at the end, has aged like fine wine.
The Chris Sims take God is the first and best take perch. It is the best best
prediction ever made on the show.
Do you think Chris Sims is excited
for the Broncos to have Zach Wilson, Chris Sims
as number two quarterback in 2021?
Look, who amongst us
hasn't gotten something wrong?
Yeah, well.
It depends on what's ranking you look at.
One of his nine mocks.
Yeah, Chris Sims has several quarterback rankings
from 2021. And he just deletes all the ones
that were the most incorrect after the draft.
Yeah, all those URLs go dead.
He's kind of fool pretty fucking smart.
A great bit. He's kind of playing chess
if you think about it.
Yeah, why do we leave the links up when we're wrong?
There's no way to catch him on this.
He's got us figured out.
All right, we got some two jargons in a lie.
Yeah.
America's favorite segment before Panda Watch was America's favorite segment.
Is that my cute?
So, all right, we got a-
Trigger D-K.
I don't just start yelling Pan-Wil.
I don't know who's set the same,
but bartender edition.
So everyone get, wow.
Oh, front room.
So convenient you're in the front row.
All right.
Two of these are recognized cocktails.
One is not.
Naked and famous.
Duck fart.
Wow.
And dingling.
Dingling?
I feel great about duck fart being real.
I feel good about naked and famous being real.
Yeah, that's one of those movies.
Dingling's faith.
No, it just calls out to me.
I just feel that that's real.
The third one is dingling.
Dingling?
I think the dingling is false.
I think so, too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we're going dingling.
It is the lie.
Yeah.
Wait, how do you know?
He wrote it in it?
I'm covering it up with my thumb.
Oh, sure, yeah, yeah.
What is a duck fart?
They want to accuse me of cheating, but they won't
go through the fucking email. I'm the one reading the
emails. I'm fine with that.
All right. I want to look up
a duck park. This is from Shane.
Shane.
I am from Canada.
Canada. I didn't know where you guys stood on that
so I wanted to wait. I am from
I don't know the local politics.
He's like, I am from Canada.
You read that. All right.
I don't think he's from Canada.
I declare bankruptcy.
I am Canadian.
You see, like, it's not second.
Shout at Jason Gallagher, who we used to work with.
He tweeted out that the Sixers filed,
your fucking Sixers filed a grievance against the refs.
And he put out Michael Scott with I declare a grievance.
That was really funny.
Go Birds.
Go Birds.
This Go Birds is really affirming me right now.
I'm feeling great about this.
A duck fart is a layered shot with Kaluas.
Bailey's Irish cream and whiskey.
All right.
Yeah.
Sounds delicious.
Duck farts tonight.
I can't do dairy, so yeah, that's a duck fart.
All right.
Shane says, I am from Canada, so two jargons and a lie, Canada edition.
Two cities in Canada and a lie.
Okay.
Circumcision?
No.
Lie?
That sounds right.
Blow me down.
Can someone fact?
Did we fact check?
Say that again?
Bay.
You should have fact-checked these.
Can you spell blow me down?
It's spelled that way.
Hyphins are one word.
Hyphins are one word.
Yeah, one word?
It's French, Craig.
That's fake.
I'm not accepted.
Blow me down, circumcision.
There's no way.
Spread Eagle Bay, if fake, is a great lie.
That's like, I find that very convincing.
Spread Eagle Bay has got to be real.
Yeah.
I still think circumcision is fake.
That's way too on the nose.
It's not on the nose.
I think blow me...
Thank you, thank you.
I think blow me down is real
because if you made that up,
that's not even a phrase.
Like, how do you think of that?
I remember when we did, like,
we did like Alaskan cities,
and a lot of them are like about the wind.
They're not like, what happens when you're there?
Blow me down.
Like, oh, man, it's windy here.
It's gonna blow me down.
And then they named the town after that.
I'm not circumcision.
I do, I do agree with Ben again, I think.
Oh, wait, what do you guys think?
So, if it's, if it's,
if you think, if you think,
Circumcision's fake.
Give us.
Okay.
If you think Blow Me Down is fake.
Spread Eagle Bay is fake.
Sounds like circumcision is the winner.
I think they're all real.
Spread Eagle Bay is the lie.
It's a good lie.
That's a good lie.
Wait, no.
Am I reading it wrong?
Wait, it's not on here.
Spread Eagle is like a talent.
Wait, no, it's not on it.
Wait, I don't know the answer.
Yeah.
They tried to get me.
I know.
I stayed the path.
I almost just Googled Spread Eagle on my work.
Don't put that on Twitter.
Yeah, let's not do that.
We can't even open Twitter in, like, in public anymore.
I feel like, yeah.
All right, three Ohio colleges in a lie.
We got Marietta.
Three what?
Wait, wait, three what?
You ran through that quick.
Oh, sorry.
Three Ohio colleges.
Boom!
Yeah, fuck them.
Marietta.
Hey, yeah, hey, hey, no, no, no, no.
All right, I guess that's true.
Your participation will be requested.
It is not welcomed.
William and.
Jefferson.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
That feels right.
But maybe that's why it's fake.
I think that's fake because that sounds like...
We were just willing to marry.
Yeah.
What were the other two?
Marietta, harem, which obviously is real.
Harryham and William and Jefferson.
Hiram.
Hiram.
So that was real.
That's okay.
That's fine.
You're safe.
I don't know.
Marietta, which a bunch of them said real.
But that could be a trick.
You can't try.
The crowd.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Man, did you like any prospects
out of Marietta this year?
Anybody again?
Go wolves.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Wild cuts.
I think William and Jefferson.
I think that's bait.
Same.
Yeah, yeah.
William and Jefferson.
Wow, all right, well done.
Three for three.
Oh, yeah.
Three for three.
We haven't played in two years.
Three for three.
Wow.
Can I, oh, God.
This is, instead of two jargon to the lie,
it's Ricky.
Shout out Ricky.
Ricky.
Rick.
Rick.
You devious bastard.
Can Haifitz pronounce these Michigan cities?
Ricky, that is a fantastic question.
That's very well done.
It's topical.
I like it.
Charlevoix.
Wow.
Oh, it gets harder.
Ipsilanti.
Close.
That was close.
I was close.
Ipsilani, right?
Michigan.
Michigan, all your A's.
They're A-N's.
It's a home game for Ben right now.
This is a home game for Ben.
Last time it was hyphids his home game in D-C.
Yeah.
Tidabawasi.
Oh, pretty good, yeah, yeah.
Tidabawasi.
Yeah, you got it.
Don't Google that on your work computer either.
Here, Ricky, you missed the best one.
I'm going to spell it for you, hyphids, you pronounce it.
It's easy.
It's C-H-A-R-L-O-T-E.
Charlotte.
No.
You can never pronounce that Charlotte.
It's Charlotte.
That's like what I would say.
They need to change that.
That one they need to change.
Michigan is a sick and twisted place.
I shouldn't move there.
They write real words
and then pronounce them wrong
and then act like you're wrong.
There's a city up north.
This hyphids, you should live here.
One of us.
You could gaslight so many people.
Yeah, they have Traverse City,
which is spelled Traverse.
And they're like, yeah,
That's Travers.
Never once is it Travers.
Milan.
Milan.
Yeah.
It's awful.
Milan is Milan?
Milan is Milan?
Yeah.
Ricky honestly took mercy on you.
Those were 101.
Oh my God.
All right.
Two Canadian cities and a lie.
Again.
Again?
A lot of Canadians among us.
All right.
We got...
I am from Canada.
Before we begin, I am from Canada.
Oh, great.
Of course.
Okay. Two Canadian cities in a lie.
I promise this is what's on the card.
Dildo.
Dumb-freeze.
And a word that could be interpreted as taint.
Title of the episode.
Title of the episode could be interpreted.
It would spell T-A-I-N-T-E with an accent.
Oh, tricky.
T-T-T-T-T-T-E.
T-T-E.
Yeah, yeah.
See, that probably is real, right?
sounds French.
Yeah.
Dumfries and Dildo are kind of a toss-up here.
Dildo's far too obvious.
Dildo feels right.
I think Dildo's right.
Dildo's right.
Dildo feels right.
Dilldo feels great.
Well, that feels right.
I am a Canadian.
Don't record that I killed that man.
Don't cut this.
I think Dumb-freeze is our answer.
What do you think?
I'm Dumb-freeze.
No, that's a...
Guy, do you think it's Dilder or Taint?
Lifeline.
Who wants to be a millionaire?
This is when you throw it in me?
Yeah.
Dildo.
Nice, nice.
Okay, I guess we'll go with...
Wait, you think Dildo's fake.
I'm not Googling it.
Someone's got to tell me.
Yeah, I think Dildo's fake.
Cain is fake.
Cah, you're killing me, man.
Dildo feels good?
Taint is fake.
They didn't put the answer.
Taint is fake.
The accent was what got us.
Do I need to Google this?
Yeah, yeah, Google it.
Yeah, Google it.
Start with the other two.
Start with it on Twitter.
Start with Dumb Freeze, that's safe.
Search Taint on Twitter.
I'm searching T-N-T-E.
I also, I hit Incognito mode, Craig.
Dude, don't actually.
Command chip T.
I also made a couple for you guys.
Oh, yeah.
I have two things Jerry Jones said this week.
Two things Jerry Jones said this week and a lie.
Just this week.
Recently.
Jerry Jones.
Yeah, two things Jared Jones said this week in a lie.
I like trading down, but you don't trade down
from like a Micah Parsons.
The Cowboys did trade down when Michael Parsons was on the board.
We have the 24th pick because we were the 24th best team this season.
He super said that.
I kind of...
I cannot dress out for sure.
This is the exact kind of thing I get confused about,
so I'm not going to make fun of it.
And also, it makes no sense to turn this deal down,
but it's a great thing for us.
The owls are fucking the chickens.
That's definitely a Jonesism.
I think the first one's a lie.
I like training down we don't trade down.
Wait, wait, wait.
24th pick, 24th best team.
100% true.
That's definitely real.
Owls and chickens, far too absurdist to be fake.
If Hyfitz wrote that, that's good right.
I do kind of think Haifitz wrote that.
The chickens one?
Yep.
I'm going trading down.
Me too.
So they're all real.
Okay.
No. It's always they're all real.
Why do we always fall for that?
He said the owls fucker the chickens thing like a few years ago.
God damn it. I have a note with things.
I just have an entire doc of things Jerry Jones has said.
And that one's at the top. The owls are fucking the chickens.
We told the story about how you said hi to Jerry Jones at the combine, right?
Did we?
Yeah.
What did you say to Jerry Jones when you walked up to him?
Nice to see you again.
I had never met Jerry Jones.
He's 87.
He doesn't know that.
There's like one quote that explains Hafeitz.
It's that.
Yeah.
All right.
By the way,
Dildo Canada, real place.
How far is it from here?
Dumb-freez Canada Real Place.
It is the ambiguous taint Canada is fake.
The taint with the accent E.
That's pretty intriguing.
It's really, that's crafty.
Out of our Canadian in the audience, wherever you are.
All right.
Last one here.
We got two members.
of the 1939 Brooklyn Dodgers, the football team,
who fought in World War II and then came back
and started successful businesses and one lie.
I'm looking at this in the dock and I don't get it.
So again, okay.
Two people who are the 1939 Brooklyn Dodgers fought in World War II
came back, started successful businesses, and a lie.
Ace Gatowski.
Goodness.
Gatowski.
Scrapper Farrell.
They don't, look, man, they don't name them like they used to.
Yeah, man, that's good.
And Wendell Butcher.
Wendell Butcher
Ace Kutowski
Scrapafarrel Wender Butcher
Do you think he's going to get us with the
It's all of them again? It's likely, I think.
There can't have been three 1939
Brooklyn Dodgers World War II veterans start a successful
business. Every member
of the team did this. Oh, should I give
I have a hot take after this, but
Wendell Butcher reads to me as the lie.
Ace and Scrapper sound like baseball players
turned veterans turned businessmen.
I'm going with Scrapper.
Scrapper Farrell as the fake name.
Okay.
Ace Kutowski.
All right.
We're split.
So the answer is Scrapper Farrell is fake.
Scrapper.
He was a member of the 1939 Book of Dodgers, but didn't start a business.
He only served as executive vice president of the J.E. Shepherd Tobacco Company.
Couldn't quite get there.
Not creative enough to start his own company, huh?
Is it?
Were the 39 Dodgers good?
They win?
Huge wasted potential.
They gotta give the team over to the players.
Let them run this.
Well, didn't they shut down the league for the war?
Right, but on the 39th?
No, they did not, which, okay, now is, all right,
so you guys know Don Hudson on the Green Bay Packers?
Be careful.
Oh, no.
He's gonna call someone a coward, but let's go.
That's not, that's not it.
I was just saying.
Let's do it.
So Don Hudson is like the greatest receiver in Packers history,
as you guys probably know.
And people say,
Don Hudson is like the greatest receiver of all time other than Jerry Rice
because he led the league in receiving yards.
In 1943,
everyone who could guard him was like fighting the Nazis.
Like, I'm not impressed.
I'm sorry.
Like, he led the league in 1942,
1943,
1944, never again.
Look at this man.
Look at this man.
Don.
Six.
It is an accident.
6-1-183.
Do you think
his buddies came back
and they were like, Don,
like, congrats on leading the league
in receiving.
And he was like,
congrats on
defeating the Axis powers.
It's a tough reconnect,
is all I'm saying.
Also, his MVP trophies
are so much bigger
than their purple hearts.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He's like, that's all you got?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He had a good day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was too busy winning the war.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I went to let it in 45.
I didn't spray my ankle with me 13.
I lost limbs.
Tough.
We're getting into a dangerous territory.
Yeah, we should probably go.
All right.
Yeah, that's probably get out of here.
Thank you for coming.
This has been absolutely amazing.
Thank you again.
This is an amazing time.
We really, like, we don't take it for granted.
Like, we really appreciate you guys.
Thank you so much.
And thank you to Hyundai for making this possible.
I mean, thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig, thank you, so it takes a lot of people to put something like this together.
So, I mean, this is not everybody, but thank Elizabeth Fairman.
Like, we literally couldn't do this without you. Thank you, Elizabeth.
Thank you, Kai, even though you got the dildo thing right.
Yeah, Kai.
Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Kira. Thank you, Victoria. Thank you, David. Thank you, Charlie.
Helen, Tessa. Like, Connor Nevin's, like, thank you, everybody. That's not even close to everybody.
Nevin's got the last name. That's nice.
Conner got the last name. Big for Nevins.
Big. It's big.
But, yeah, no. Thank you to the loins.
So, like, are you going to break any loins news tomorrow?
No.
We, we, we, we, we, we, too many losses on attempted loins breaking news.
Oregon head coach, Chip Kelly.
Too many else.
Taking a year off.
There's also one person without whom, none of this would be possible.
Who is that?
Is it?
Lauren.
Thank you, Lord.
Thank you, Eminem.
So, he basically opened for us.
Well, we, yeah.
It was a while ago, but he opened for us.
So this is really the place where he did the rap battle.
mile like it was downstairs.
That is sick.
T.K., why don't you give us a few lines right now?
Yes, I am white.
That's all I know.
I don't know. Not doing more.
Were you a big M&M guy growing up?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was a big till I collapsed guy because anybody
who I feel did high school sports
in the early 2010s was a big till I collapsed guy.
It was till I collapsed and Fort Miners
remember the name.
Yeah, yeah. Oh.
No songs.
Yes.
On the bus to high school football games, or even middle school football games, my iPod touch, Nano, video, I don't know which one.
And we had all these, sorry, Spotify, but like, we had all these songs from Limewire.
Wow.
But then the files got corrupted, so my iPod would just skip, like, all those.
The only songs that weren't corrupted were till I collapse and Fort Mine, I remember the name.
So I had 40-minute bus ride both ways.
Those are the only two songs I had.
And you were the best player on the bus.
Just ready to run through a wall.
Yeah, I was just sitting there
the whole game on the bench, like, oh, I'm ready.
10% luck, 20% skin.
At some point, I'll have to explain
LimeWireder people the way DK explained
the internet on the CD to us.
Well, I'd be like, no, like, they didn't give us the music.
We had to go hunt it. You'd go find it
in secret places. It's also crazy
that, like, on iTunes, it was like $1.99
for one song.
That was a wild time.
Then you, like, you download it,
and then it was like, did you guys ever have the correct?
that was like, according to a lawsuit from LimeWire and FrostWire,
is that my crazy?
No, yeah, yeah, I remember that.
But that was a lot.
I mean, Spot, that was shameless corporate chill here, but just pay $14, 15 bucks, and he's like, yeah, here's the entire history.
I love Spotify.
Yeah, it's great.
Huge.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, speaking of cool companies, I wanted to, now that I have you all here.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
We wanted to talk to you about a really cool investment opportunity.
Yeah.
Gentlemen's Piss Club?
Look, I have to pee right now.
That wouldn't be an issue
if we were in the gentleman's piss club.
We don't actually have an investment opportunity.
Yeah.
Kyle literally made that shirt for us for Christmas.
Thanks, Kai.
Think about having to explain the shirt.
If you're wearing the shirt and somebody's like, what is that?
You have to be like, there's a podcast to us and do.
I'll tell you what it is.
It's an investment opportunity.
I'm so glad I have you here, though.
Have you a time share?
You listen to me for one hour.
By the way, you'll meet us in the back
by the thing when you're saying hi,
and we can talk about the investor.
Has this ever happened to you?
You can buy it off D.K.'s back.
Hello, sharks.
Have you ever needed to me?
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