The Ringer NFL Show - The Mock Draft Oscars and Lamar Jackson’s Cold War

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

Today, the guys open by breaking down all the franchise-tag news, including the Lamar Jackson–Baltimore Ravens situation, the New York Giants’ negotiations with Daniel Jones and Saquon Barkley, and everything in between (1:38). Next, inspired by the upcoming Academy Awards, they go through DK’s updated mock draft on The Ringer’s 2023 NFL Draft Guide—Oscars style! (29:29). Finally, they close with a handful of emails and America’s favorite segment: Two Jargons, One Lie (45:45). Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Ben Solak, Craig Horlbeck Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Kai Grady Check out our 2023 Ringer NFL Draft Guide here! Email us! [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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NFL draft show. My name is Danny Hyfitts and I am joined by Danny Kelly, Ben Sullick, and Craig Horlebeck, and we are coming to you twice a week, every week before the NFL draft on April 27th. And today we're going to go through Danny Kelly's latest mock draft draft that is up at NFLDraft.orghum. It's the best mock draft in the business. It's the best NFL draft guy in the business. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait. Who did the Eagles get? They got Devin Witherspoon

And Will McDonald Yeah, best mock draft of the business I accept there we go Just wanted to make sure NFLdraft.com check it out We're going to be doing our little Oscars mock draft here Because it's the Oscar season And we just want an excuse to play

DK and Solic off with music It's really fun to do that So we'll be doing that later But first we have insane quarterback news today Just insane news all over the NFL So we're going to just go Guy by guy and we're going to start off with Lamar Jackson, right off the bat here.

So at some point we'll have to do the explanation what the hell of franchise take is. I was going to say, there's a lot of confusing information going around. I'm all over it. I got a piece coming out about it. Ask me anything. I've been texting folks. I've been in the CBA. All right.

Talk to me. Give us an elevator pitch. Well, so let's just start with the base news. So the Ravens have placed the non-exclusive franchise tag on Lamar Jackson. The franchise tag is basically just we force you in a one-year contract. Sucks to suck. You play for us, even though your contract's over. The Ravens have used the non-exclusive franchise deck.

On the surface, that means, oh, Lamar Jackson has to play for $32 million to the Ravens this year. What it really means is Lamar Jackson's kind of like a restricted free agent in basketball. Like, he can negotiate with other teams and sign a deal with them, and the Ravens can match, or the Ravens could take two first-round picks if Lamar leaves, which is nuts. And basically, Lamar is now filling out the trade market. There are so many implications to this, whether Lamar goes back to the Ravens, where else could Lamar play, What does this mean about wider stuff? It's guaranteed contracts. It's a shadow cold war.

There's so much stuff. So like you just wrote a piece about this for the ringer.com. What the hell is going on? So, as you say, the Ravens have put the non-exclusive tag on Lamar. What that means is that just for cap accounting purposes, the Ravens now have $32.4 million, which is the non-exclusive tag figure, on their books for Lamar Jackson for 2023. Lamar has yet to sign the tender.

He's yet to sign that deal, right? And so he'll now go to free agency, quote unquote, not real free agency. But he can talk to whatever teams he wants, starting on March 15th, the new league year. Be like, hey, Lions, you want a better quarterback than Jared Gough? Like, hey, 49ers, you want a better quarterback than Brock Purdy? Hey, insert any team here. Do you want to sign me, Lamar Jackson? It's like an open relationship. It's like the Ravens and Lamar is still together, but you can talk to other people. It's literally called an open negotiation in contrast to a closed negotiation, which is the exclusive franchise tag.

So Lamar can go out and get offers from deal. from other teams, right? And other teams, I'd be like, hey, we'll give you $2 million for a year. And then he'll be like, well, no, that's stupid. And then he'd negotiate and negotiate and he might eventually get a contract that he really likes. You know, all the Tennessee Titans are going to pay me $200 million over four years.

I'm not reporting anything. That's not a real thing. That's made up. Titans fans, don't freak out. So, 200 million over four years. Lamar says, all right, sick, I want to play for the Titans, and he signs that offer sheet. From the moment he signs the offer sheet,

and informs the Ravens, I've signed this offer sheet. I'm going to play for the Titans. the Ravens have five days to match the offer sheet. So, okay, $200 million over four years. You know what, Lamar? We'll sign you for that deal. And then boom, the Ravens take over the offer sheet and they say, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, we have Lamar for $200 million over four.

Because functionally, Lamar said, I am happy with this deal. I'm happy with $200 million over four. And the Ravens say, you know what? We are two. Now you have to play for the Ravens. The Titans got to go somewhere else for their quarterback. In the event that the Ravens do not match the offer sheet in that five-day window, Lamar becomes a Titan, and the Titans end to their 20-23 first round

pick on their 24 first round pick to the Ravens in recompense. Has this always been the rule? So this has always been the rule for tags like the non-exclusive tag and the transition tag. Both of those tags are rarely used because they expose the player to free agency. Most of the time when teams tag a player, they want to secure a player and sure he doesn't reach free agency. Accordingly, the franchise tag price tag is bigger.

If the Ravens had placed the non-exclusive franchise tag, or excuse me, if they had placed the exclusive franchise tag, the. tag on Lamar, it would have counted for $45 million. Now it counts for $32.4, which is basically the Ravens saying, hey, we save $13 million and we make a bet that nobody's really going to want to pay Lamar, this giant contract that he wants. And most teams, most teams won't give two first-round picks to pay someone a premium. Like if the Giants had tagged Daniel Jones, they wouldn't have done this 45.

They would have done 32. I mean, like, no one's going to freaking pay two first-urn picks just to give Daniel Jones more than $33 million, you know, $45 million a year or whatever. That's an assumption. The Browns literally just did that with Deshaun Watson like a year ago. No, I'm saying I know, but Daniel Jones, I have a feeling wasn't going to attract that. The Ravens are just gambling that no one's going to offer Lamar, the fully guaranteed super contract that he's interested in. I say yes to that, Craig.

It's a gamble, but, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I actually make fun of people who are a little bit too into conspiracies. However, immediately about 12 teams come out and say, we're not going to fucking sign Lamar Jackson. We're not going to even get involved in this. We're not going to talk to him. We're not interested. You have to do the Brian Winhor's fingers. Now, why would that be?

Why would the Jazz do that? Yeah. Why would all these teams say we're not doing it? Is this actually a gamble or did they actually just decide beforehand that we're done with this fully guaranteed contract bullshit? And by they, I mean, like, the ownership groups of the NFL. So there's a collusion. Collusion. I see.

I think so. It smells bad. It stinks. It does. So here's the deal. The base deal is in other sports, like an NBA or MLB, if you sign a contract for 10 years and $100 million, and they fire you after two years,

you still get the $100 million. And in football, it's not like that at all. Most contracts only pay you half the money or 60% of the money that you even read when they're like, Dana Jones, $160 million. It's not even $100 million guaranteed. It's like, that's just how contracts work. And the Deshawn Watson contract changed all of that.

Like there was the clown show of three teams trying to be like, oh, we want Deshawn. And admit all that, the Browns come out. We're like, we'll give them a five-year deal for the whole thing, guaranteed. they broke the entire model of NFL contracts. And literally, Deshaun Watson's agent put on Instagram, this is a supermax.

That's what they call it in the NBA. It's a supermax. That was literally Deshawn Watson's agent's joke. And so Lamar Jackson, this entire contract is, Lamar Jackson's going to the Ravens. Like, I'd like a basketball contract, please. That sounds great. And the Ravens are like, we only do football contracts here.

And Lamar's like, well, I'm more accomplished than Deshawn Watson on the field. I haven't been accused of things to Shepard. Sean Watson's accused of off the field. Why should I not get what he got? That's the entire way NFL negotiating works. It's precedent. The Ravens are like, no, no, no, no, no. We don't do that.

The Browns suck. They're dumb. And this whole thing is very fishy because this is really kind of become a shadow Cold War where Lamar is being advised by the NFLPA. And they're like, the NFLPA, DeMari Smith came out, who's the head of the NFLPA, came out and said last week, this Lamar's situation is the moment for NFL players to get guaranteed contracts. Like Deshawn somehow got it.

And like if no one comes in like and does it, this is the moment to backfill and be like, yep, this is how it works now. And the NFL owners, it doesn't really make, like the Ravens aren't just for themselves. It's like are they good NFL owner is going to let the entire business model, the contract structure that they have spent 30 or 40 years building how these contracts work. They're going to let it go because the Browns fucked it up for them. No way at hell. It stinks. Yeah. So I'm telling you.

Now why would that be? Why would the jazz? They're not willing to talk to him. It came out within like 10 minutes. Like five different teams. They're like not even interested, including the Falcons who went after Deshawn Watson last year. Now this makes any fucking sense.

If you are the owner who signs the second fully guaranteed quarterback contract, which makes the fully guaranteed quarterback contract go from being an outlier event to being a reliable trend, something that's happening, which we should emphasize, this technically wouldn't be the second fully guaranteed quarterback. my contract would be the third because our boy, Kurt Cousins signed a three year, $84 million. No, but even that, that was just three years. Guaranteeing three years. Deschorn got five years guaranteed. That's the, you blows it all up. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, this, a second deal would start

to make it a trend. And so everybody's pissed at the Browns did this. An owner actually said when the Brown signed that deal, he was like, man, I really wish they hadn't signed a fully guaranteed deal. And I wish that had signed it for that guy. Sounds going to make it really difficult for all us to sign contracts. And that owner was Steve, I always want to say Biscotti, which I feel like is a, it's a, what, Steve Biscotti who invented his family invented the Biscotti. I think it's like Bishotti or something. I always want to call him Biscotti. I apologize, Stephen. But anyway, that owner was Steve Biscotti. He said after the signing with the Browns, he was like, this is going to suck for everybody. So nobody wants to be the second order to do this. Nobody wants to be the guy who

makes the deal and kind of gives players leverage to go ahead and demand these deals. Here's the thing, though. Once you do it, it's everybody else's problem now. And you have Lamar Jackson. And so it is a bit of a staring contest where like none of these owners want to make this choice. But like if the lions just do it, then okay. Yeah, it sucks for Justin Herbert and the Chargers and it sucks for Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars and it sucks for everybody else. He's got a sign extensions. I got my guy and I got him at a price tag I was comfortable paying him for and I'm going to go contend for a Super Bowl. And so I do think that like there is a, I think it's less of a cabal, which I'm fully down for it to be a cabal. But unfortunately, I think it's less of a cabal and it's more than a good staring contest.

Is it even a reach to say, I mean, cabal, what is the definition of cabal? A secret political click or fact? I mean, the NFL legally is a cartel. So I don't, you know what I mean? It's like, we don't have to reach far for big words. Who's the owner that hates the other owners the most? I would say Dan Snyder. Dan Snyder right now. Come on down. Last thing Snyder does before he leaves the league is sign Lamardo fully against. Ben Snyder cutting a lot. Let me tell you saying. Dan Snyder is not about to guarantee he'll pay anybody.

That's definitely, it's the opposite, actually. If only. Put it this way. If the Ravens are trying to not get Lamar signed to a guaranteed contract. In theory, they're not supposed to talk to the other owners about what they'll do. Do you think that they're not talking to other owners? They met in some shady cave with like a waterfall in front of it in the mountains of Switzerland. It was like really.

This really is perfect timing with the Oscars because there's all this shady Oscar campaign stuff going to Ryan right out of the Andrea Riseboro nomination. So it's all convoluted. It's all working together. We can be the first podcast to say Lamar is Angela Rice. Who is it? Andrea Riseborough. Oh, yes, yes, yes. That's the whole point. She got an Oscar nomination. Nobody had ever heard of the movie she's in. The Oscars are wild. We'll get to that later. So is the NFL. So what's going to happen? What's, let's do predictions real quick. So immediately after the news broke, I tweeted Lamar Jackson, you are in Atlanta Falcon. And like eight minutes later, Diana Rossini v. Sken was like, the Atlanta Falcons, do you not want Lamar Jackson?

So I ain't out here tweeted. Three top teams, I think I have a legitimate Lamar chance are the New York Jets, who if Rogers falls through, Lamar is their best option by a mile. Obviously, their PJ just landed in Green Baytown and they're out there talking with Rogers and being like, no, it's cool, man. We got crystals in New York. Come hang. So I don't know if that'll work or not. We'll see. The second team, I think, is the Detroit Lions. Brad Holmes, Brad Holmes, love. loves Jared Goff like a son, and I think that's great. But I think they also know that at some point they're going to have to improve at the quarterback position.

Golf's coming off a career season. He was so, so, so good. But the lines are sitting there with the ninth overall pick and saying, we might not be able to get into the top of this quarterback class. We might be looking at our future franchise quarterback in Lamar, and we're willing to move to first to do it. It makes sense. The third team is the San Francisco 49ers.

This is an important team to talk about because they go out. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Wow. Yeah. So remember, the team that offers Lamar signs him to that deal and then sends two first round picks to the Ravens.

It's worth noting in the history of quarterbacks being non-exclusive franchise tag, we typically don't see that happen. Kirk Cousin in 2016, non-exclusive tag, stayed with Washington. Drew Reeves, 2005, non-exclusive tag, stayed with the Chargers. In 2009, though, Matt Castle signed the non-exclusive tag and then was just plain old traded

to the Kansas City Chiefs. Because the Niners don't have a 20-23 first-round pick to send to the Ravens. They can't do the usual offer sheet where they're like, sign Lamar and free agency. Now we'll give you two first-round picks. They can't do it because they don't have a 2023 first-round pick.

They can, however, just call the Ravens up once a new league year begins, cough-cough right now because it's illegal, but whatever. But they can call the Ravens up, be like, yo, our 2024 first-round pick, our 2025 first-round pick, and Trey Lance for Lamar Jackson. And the rage can go, yeah, 100%.

And then Lamar will negotiate with the Niners, come to a contract agreement with the Niners, and the Ravens will sign, we'll sign them to the tender and trade them away. So the Niners don't have the pick to do the usual route, but they can still just trade for Lamar on the tender. And right now they have Brock Party with no elbow and Trey Lance with no ankle. Like it's a good situation for the Niners.

We'll see what they do. In terms of trades, fake trades that are like a 10 out of 10 in terms of holy shit factor of like Lamar with Christian McCaffrey and Debo Samuel and George Kittal and Brett and Ayuk mixed with, I actually think both sides would be down with that. I don't know if the Niners would be. The Niners fans would prefer a limp-armed Brock Purdy over, I think, any quarterback in the league. That's true. Lamar Jackson.

Brock Bernie. So Lamar's going to, like, hold Brock Purdy's clipboard or, like, how's that going to work? I don't know. All right. I think this is crazy. We'll see how this goes. I mean, there's so much to talk about the Lamar stuff. It's kind of insane.

The other thing that happened is the freaking giants have signed. Woo! My beloved Daniel Jones. Danny Jones. Danny millions. Danny $40 million a year doesn't have the same ring to it. How many dimes? How many dimes is 140 mil?

Well, 160. We should probably know that immediately off the top of our heads, right? So you're the math guy. You're multiplied by 10. There's 10. It's 140 million. Okay, yeah, it's 1.4 billion dimes. 1.6.

Anyway, this is old. Anyway, four years, $160 million to Daniel Jones. That's fake. They guaranteed it for two years in 82. it's really, it's really 94 million guaranteed. So really what it is, I would describe it as they, the Giants paid too much money for Daniel Jones, but they got a good return policy.

It's like they bought this at Coles. Like if you ever turn say at Coles? Yeah. Yeah, really good warranty on this. They got AppleCare. AppleCare. That's what it is. It's Apple.

Big Apple Care. Love Apple. When the Eagles signed Wentz, dude, the Eagles signed Wentz, they were like, what do I need the Apple Care for? And then they dropped Carson Wentz and he cracked a screen to I'm not going to drop my AirPods. I'm careful with things. Exactly. And then, oh my God, it was expensive to get rid of the Carson Wentz with the crack screen. They got the screen protector on Jones. They got everything. So like they did that. And then they franchise tag Seek Juan Barclay. I think this was honestly like the best move that they had on the board. I'm not saying this is necessarily good. The mistake the Giants made was like they declined the option. They could have just had them under contract this year for $20 million. That would have been better. But they fucked that up. Spilt milk.

spilt milk. Within the fuck up, this was the best thing because they basically did the franchise tag thing, but accelerated. They're like, fine. It's like, we'll tag you this year and we'll like tag you the next year and we'll throw on $10 million. Why didn't they just non-exclusive tag him? Because then you just do it again next year. And then you have all the personnel problems of that of like you're in the locker and the emotions and like the questions. But also like next year, then you have to tag again. It's like $39 million. And the year after that's $54. So, like, you don't really want to do it. So because then you're just, that's what happened with Dak and Kirk cousins. It's like letting it do it over the year and year is like not what anyone wants,

not to mention the cap hit because the NFL is counting and it's all a lie and dark magic. Paying him more per year is actually less on the cap this year, which is we don't have to get into counting. But basically tagging him's bad. So what they really did was it's like they tagged him for two years, but they got the flexibility of, if you do end up being good, we have you for four. And if you suck, we only really have you for two. and it'll cost them like probably, I haven't seen it yet,

but $12, $15 million in dead money three years from now, which with inflation of the league making more money, it's like a tenth of what the Eagles really paid to get rid of Carson Wentz. So it's not as bad as it. Am I just coping? Is that, that's my question.

I just talked myself into this in record time. The only thing Hy Fitz wrote in the dock was sad with a pick, like an exclamation point. I just think you just paid this guy $90 million to be in, football purgatory for the next two years. That's the thing. It is purgatory. It is quarterback purgatory. I think that we're not stuck. The alternative

to being in purgatory is just being really, really bad, right? It's in hell! It's being in a... That's my thing. It's like the... It's the Del Curry tweet that Solic always brings up. You don't want to be out here. I don't want to be the charcoal ice cream. My brother texted me the other day I was talking about, well, you know, they say that it's really hard to build and manage your salary cap with like

a middling quarterback making a high percentage of your cap. And my brother's like, I'm tired of looking for a quarterback. I can't go through this again. And that's what you're paying for. And enjoy those eight games and go on with my life. It's so easy to be like, well, if you're not competing for a Super Bowl, then what are you even doing? And then like never think about that team again for 10 months.

But when it's your actual life. Also, the opposite of purgatory is not hell. The opposite of purgatory is heaven. Well, there's two sides. There's up and down, Craig. You can either go. Hold on. How are you going to get to heaven if you don't have any quarterback?

Hold on. Hold on. Isn't have purgatory like the waiting room between heaven and hell? It's kind of like a tone for your sins before going to heaven, right? Yeah. So, you know, the biblical. Jesus is unclear here. And my pops are on the pod.

My dad's a priest. My pops are on the pod. No, I have no idea how the whole purgatory thing. Anyway, Craig, the point is if they didn't take Daniel, if they didn't keep Daniel Jones, they would have to start looking for a quarterback again. And they're not just, well, I guess they could get Lamar, but. Or they could have traded up in the draft. I don't know.

The whole thing was like when, when dayball came in, Right? Wasn't the, wasn't all of the excitement around like, none of these guys are dayballs guys. We wait a year. We get rid of all of them. We'll bring in a new regime and like really build the dayball system. And then Daniel Jones kind of overperformed and now they're like shit. I guess we got to hang on to him for two more years. Absolutely. That's absolutely what happened. Like again, when Gettleman drafted Daniel Jones, he's like, I'm in full bloom love. They fire Gettleman. They bring in Joe Shane. They decline the option. They literally like, this guy's not worth $20 million. Now they're giving them $40. It's like clearly like one year That's a big freaking change In one year

That's getting knocked up in breakup sex Sorry That's terrible That's really good What are you talking about? That was incredible One last one last ride One last ride Daniel

For the good old days Just for old time's sake One more roll in the hay That is exactly what I'm They're staying together for sake one. Basically. They got a dog in the pandemic and now they can't break up.

So is that, as a giant's fin, so is that good? Knocked up during breakup sex? Is that like, it's good, right? It's fine. Doesn't sound like it. No? Is it not?

Jesus. It could be. It could end up being. Daniel Jones was the most clear we should franchise tag this guy and see if he can do what he did last year again this year. I know. Situation, like, as clear as day.

And then they were like, nah, let's just sign him to a big deal now. What makes me a little upset is then I see that the Seahawks have signed Gino Smith to a three-year deal for $100 million, which really? Honestly, when you look at this, it's two years for $40 million. They got Gino Smith for half the money over the next two years that the Giants are going to give Daniel Jones. That gives me freaking heartburn. You're going to have $40 million for Gino Smith the next two seasons and the Giants are going to have Daniel Jones twice that. Yeah, I mean, I think it's a great deal for the Seahawks.

It's Gino Smith, if he is again betting on himself if he ends up earning in. incentives. There's like $30 million of incentives in here. It'll look a lot better if he plays well. But obviously, from the CX point of view, they're protecting themselves. If he doesn't play well, you know, they could still move on and not, it won't cost him a ton. Also, they have the fifth overall pick. There's a lot of buzz growing that they're going to take a quarterback. I don't know anything about that, but. Well, Pete Carroll said we might take a quarterback, which I'm like, so obviously they won't. If he was going to take a quarterback, wouldn't he not say that? Remember a year ago when he was like, we have no intention of trading Russ?

There's no point in saying yes. I think he said, I think he said. we're open to the idea we're like exploring the option and therefore it gives teams more like pressure to trade up in that spot like in other words they could take a quarterback and just be there just fine and take a quarterback but teams are going to be like look we'd rather have that quarterback we'll give you X amount to like make it worth your while blah blah blah so there's no point in saying yeah we're not going to look for a quarterback we're set so yeah I think honestly like super excited for both sides for the Cioxx for Gino for getting his bag you know I think that's awesome even though he potentially like obviously it looked like a lot more when they signed him

initially like the initial reports were really really high like 105 million but you know I mean look so much of this free agency time we talk about maximizing value whatever and Gino had the perspective earlier this year when he was asked about like what does he want a huge contract down he was like look man like I've still been incredibly blessed even when he was on the fringes of the NFL and like my worst days it would be other people's best days and he's like I don't know he I think he does have you have to be a certain amount to have the confidence to be in the NFL for eight years and be like, I'm still a starter. But within that, I think that he actually has really good perspective.

Because on his entire career before this, he made like 30 million bucks, 35. And now he's going to make that in a year. In a year or two. So that's pretty, so good for him. He made seven million bucks last year. And that was like, pennies crazy. Can you imagine only making $7 million in a year? I realized this when I was prepping the Lamar thing.

Do you guys know how much Lamar has made over the course his career? $10 million? I don't know. Well, he played on the fifth year option. Oh, right. So like $12 million in the first, like 14 in the first four years, and then like last year was probably like 18? So he made $32.

So you landed on the correct number. But in the first four years, he only made like nine, nine and a half. And then the third year option was like $24 million. But the fifth year option was only $24 million was $24 million. But Lamar's only made $32 million in five years, which is kind of crazy. Like because he was the, because he was the, 32nd pick. It was a really, really cheap contract relative to where we're used to seeing quarterback selected. And so, like, Lamar will make almost twice as much in the first year of his

new deal whenever that gets signed than he had over the course of his five years on his rookie deal. It's bananas when you put it in the context. This is why we've talked ad nauseum and so many people do about rookie contracts is because the argument against the Giants doing Daniel Jones as a deal is just like just keep taking quarterback rookie contracts because they're so cheap. And the whole thing cost one year of Jared Goff and you get the whole working contract. And if you get a Joe Burrow, then keep that guy. But it's easier said than done. Yeah, I was going to say, speaking of a quarterback who needs some money, Tom Brady.

Oh, my God. Yeah, so Rich Eisen said that Tom Brady might not be done after all. And folks are saying keep an eye on Miami. And I'm curious, one, do we think it's Miami for the dolphins that he tried to collude his way into? Or is it Miami for the burgeoning crypto scene? Maybe Brady wants to, like, give that another go as well. Just a quick flight down to wherever it is that their headquarters are somewhere in the Bahamas. Where was it that?

What's his face? Yeah. Sam Bakeman Free. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah. Brady could rent that man. Maybe he like owns that mansion.

No, I don't know. But Brady, I don't even know if Rich Eisen is reporting this as much as just saying what we're all thinking, which is what the hell is this guy up to now? What's Brady got going on? Just steadily getting skinnier. Well, because he already postponed him announcing for Fox this year. He's like, I'm not doing that. I'll do that in 2024. And they're like, okay.

I just continue to believe, like, is Tom Brady really going to watch football on television? Like everybody else this year? He's not going to know. He's going to watch it on TV. He's going to hang out with his daughter and the kitten. Yeah, so Tom Brady, Tom Brady's social media team. I'm done with verified accounts. People who Tom Brady tweeted this.

Tom Brady's never logged in his Twitter at a single time. Tom Brady's social media team was like anyone who I don't believe that. I don't believe that's true. All right. Maybe he's logged in. but like he doesn't tweet. Like literally we know that there are two people

who tweet from him. But he's like, anyone who thinks they have time to come back to the NFL has never adopted a two-month-old kitten for their daughter. Cats are easy.

What a charmer. Well, kittens are tough because you don't know the personality. You could just leave a cat in a house for like a week and it's fine. That's probably a giant house though.

You could lose it pretty easily. There's cats in the wall. It's up in the air duct. Mission impossible in it. Might need a second cat. Maybe you're a third. I don't know. We don't need to talk

about Brady this much. I'm already annoyed. Yeah, let's move on. The other one, we mentioned this in the yesterday show, but Derek Carr signed with the Saints. And I also say the two things that the Saints, all four NFC South teams, will have a different starting quarterback to begin this season, which, uh, yeah. And that's the first time since the AFC West in 1973. So I had to get in on the oh wow. Yeah. I thought, I know, you guys, oh, wow. I was like, I better oh, wow it. I don't know if you pick up on the, on the audio on that, but Craig and I like literally said, oh, wow, it's the exact same moment. I know. That's why I did it. I'm explaining to the audience. I'm sorry. I'm explaining it back. Rivening. I just wanted to know Derek Carr because Solic mentioned how the Saints haven't drafted a

quarterback in the first round literally since Arch Manning. And then Schefter. Archie. Adam Schoherty and Slitt. Yeah. Well, yeah, I guess because Adam Schefter then was like Arch Manning. Sheffter's not tweet about college football very much. Arch Manning, the grandson of Archie, is officially competing for the Texas quarterback job this year as a true freshman. So the Saints have traded away all their first run picks and they're going to they're going to get Arch Manning. Just only use it on Arch Manning's. I respect it. It skips

a generation, man. All right, we should probably mention also the Rogers stuff. We'll see. We don't know when that's going to happen. We're recording this Tuesday night. I don't know. I think you're just waiting so anxiously for this because he was you were among the first people that predicted the Jets as a landing

spot for Aaron Rogers as far as I can remember anyway. And you were leaning into it hard and it's going to happen. Why couldn't it be Vegas? I still don't get it. I think the short answer is that the Raiders have the seventh pick, and they could just go and get their franchise guy. McDaniels literally said at his press conference,

like we would like to have someone long term eventually. And the Raider, I mean, they'd probably never be this high. They'll probably never get this chance again. You're in the top seven, there's four quarterbacks. You don't have to go very far up to get them. And then you have to pay Rogers a shitload of money. So it's like, just go get your franchise guy. Just go get Stroud.

Literally, CJ Straub's five years will cost a, about half of what you have to pay Rogers in cash this year. And I think that, like, I don't know if anybody else is crazy enough than the Jets are to trade for Aaron Rogers. Like, I like, this is not the sort of dude. I would be like chomping at the bit to go trade for it. Yes, in the sense of on-field play, no in the sense of, look at what's happened to the Packers last few years,

just been completely and totally arrested their entire offseason, dictated by, controlled by the whims of the guy. get Randall Cobb into the building, stat. Like, this is what, like, I don't know if I want to.

Arrested development, if you will. Yeah. I don't know if I want to go down that route. And I respect the Raiders for not, you know, guessing themselves to that. You know who wins the Aaron Rogers to the Jets trade?

We do. Content. Content always wins, baby. Also, Garrett Wilson. Yeah. If that happens, we can do a whole thing.

Also, the receivers on that team. Tenze on this. Wilson will no longer be throwing them. Yes. Ten seconds. I love whenever sauce gardener is out here tweeting like

if Aaron Rogers comes I'll be so happy at Aaron Rogers. Sozegarner is a rookie like his his perception of how quarterback movement works and how free agent like movement happens is going to be completely warped by this experience. Time for the mock draft Oscars.

Yeah. Let's do it. Craig, you're the movie guy around these parts. Uh-huh. Do you want to be our Jimmy Kimmel? Sure. Or Chris Rae. I guess it depends if you want to get slapped or not. I don't want to

to get slapped and Jimmy Kimmel also got screwed too. He was the host during the La La Land Moonlight debacle. So both those hosts are kind of... The worst debacle. Difficult track records. Phil Smith's anxiety thinking about it. Yeah, so you want me to just describe what we're doing here?

We're giving out, what is it? One, two, three, four, five awards. Based on Danny Kelly's mock draft, we're going to have, I think, D.K. Pick, what? Is it six awards or five awards? We're going to have DK. Pick half, Ben award the other half. And we're going to read nominees for each category.

We're going to have a winner. They're going to come up. D.K. and Ben are going to give their their acceptance speech. And if they run a little long, Kai, our producer, is going to play them off with some Oscars music. So it's going to be wonderful. It's one of my favorite things that the Oscars

does. I can't believe it's a real thing that exists. It feels like a Mel Brooks bit, honestly, that like that like people on stage are accepting an award that this whole show is about. And they're like, you've been speaking for too long. Get the hell off stage. And they just like play a fancy orchestral number and get you off the stage. So we're going to do that.

Delightfully convoluted. There it is. That's what we're. Wrap it up, D.K. Just gradually, gradually to a crescendo. And I want to thank my mom. And I always love it when like, when like there's a best picture winner and there's a bunch of producers on stage.

And like the one guy, the director speaks for like 90% of the time. And like producers like, and I'd just like to think. And then the music starts playing. Oh my God. Get off stage, producer. Nobody cares. Okay. I don't know we're calling this.

I guess it's the mock draft Oscars. There we go. The first award here is Best Lead Actor, which on our show will be the best quarterback pick, right? They're the lead actor of the NFL. So the nominees are, and this is according to DK's mock draft, which you can check right now,

go to the description of the show, click the link, and you can follow along with us. The nominees are for Best Lead Actor. The Colts trading. to number one and taking C.J. Stroud. The Texans taking Alabama quarterback Bryce Young at number two. The Carolina Panthers trading up to number three overall and taking Florida quarterback. I read Paul Bunyan here, but it's Paul Bunyan, aka Anthony Richardson, is what somebody

wrote down. And then the fourth nominee is the Raiders staying at number seven and taking Kentucky's Will Levis. And the winner is Best Lead Actor of D.K.'s mock draft. C.J. Stroud, number one overall. Colts trading up. Yeah. I like this one. This is great. I feel really good about it. C.J. Stroud is, it's the Trevor Lawrence effect. We stopped talking about him because there's other guys in the draft, apparently, even though he's the most polished, most like probably the best passer overall, just a pure passer. And his stats are out of this world ridiculously good. We just stopped talking about it for whatever reason. And then I think at the combine, everyone, when he did the throwing on the field, everyone was like, oh, yeah, this guy's incredibly good at throwing passes, which is a big part of. the job of quarterback in the NFL. So I like this one.

I like the fit. Well, the Colts don't take little guys, right? The rumor is, or sort of the established track record, is that Chris Ballard likes big ends. He likes big guys. Size king.

Yeah. I think the combination of like the support system, Jonathan Taylor, Michael Pittman, you know, Alec Pierce is on the come up, apparently. They got a couple intriguing tight ends on this roster.

Their offensive line. Their offensive line could be good. It could be much better. I just think it's a good fit for him. I think they can kind of hit the ground running with him. And this is a great pick for them in year one. Oh, flawless. Right in.

He just got it. Perfectly done. Wow. That was like incredible timing. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

My sisters. I really appreciate it. Thank you, Calvin. Thank you, Skippy. Everyone. I'll be back soon. Wow. I'll see what you guys got.

I'll be back soon. No joke I'm predicting another Oscar winner here I'll do our next one here This is for Best Offensive linemen Which really is like the best documentary short Of the whole bit

It's kind of like all right Well we did the cool one now we'll squeeze in one we have to do It's already played They're like all right We're right We're going to commercial We're going to commercial And now's the winner

The bit is too long We went with And it makes sense to do right after because the Oscars always starts with a bang. It's always like best supporting actor. And then like the next five categories are like costume design and sound editing. I have had sound mixing and sound editing explain to me what the difference is every year in a row for 15 years and it's never retained in my mind what the difference is. And I don't really want to hear it again. I barely know to be honest. But you know what? This year, they actually,

last year they got rid of a bunch of the below the line Oscars as they call them. And now they're bringing them back. They'll be back on stage at this year. Basically this, because we're doing the best offensive lineman. And so we've got the nominees for Best Offensive Alignment pick of D.K.'s mock draft are the Texans taking Northwestern tackle, Peters Karanski. The commanders taking Ohio State tackle pairs Johnson Jr. The Steelers taking the other Ohio State tackle to Juan Jones. Or the Bengals taking Tennessee tackle Darnell Wright. And the winner is the upset Darnel Wright.

Oh. Of Tennessee going to the Cincinnati Bengals, Ben Sillick, please come up. up here and accept this award. I don't know if it's much of an upset. I think that if more people watched Dornell Wright, see what I did there because of some Oscars and watching the film. You know what I mean? We were good.

Nice. I think you'd see a really, really strong right tackle prospect, which specifically makes sense for the Bengals. So he was a five-star recruit who started as a freshman at right tackle, sophomore at right tackle, junior at left tackle, and then went back his senior year to play a right tackle. And in this Josh Hoypeau offense that the Titans,

excuse me, that Tennessee runs, you know, Hennon Hooker and Jalen Hyatt, like, how were these guys so prolific? All they do is just like, chuck the ball, chuck the ball, chuck it, tuck it, chuck it, chuck it, Chuck it, chuck it, right? Had to take a ton of, like, true pass sets with no tight end helping him. And he's not the quickest dude, but he's actually like really flexible for a guy of his size. It was much, much, much better in his past sets than I thought he'd be. And then when they run the football, I mean, he's just bulldozing.

I mean, he is a true people mover. Had an awesome day, had an awesome week, excuse me, at the senior bowl, tested just fine at the NFL Combine. Like, right to me checks every. single box of a plug-in-play starting right tackle. So long as you don't care about the left side, right side, he makes all the sense in the world. And for the Bengals, it's a perfect fit. Oh, I'm so, we're so good at this, D.K.,

they got us in year one and year two. We are all over it. That is enough time for best offensive linemen, that's for sure. Okay, here. Next award here is Best Supporting Actor, which is the best non-QB offensive player in DK's mock draft. So the

nominees are, Ben will be accepting this award. The nominees are, the Green Big Macers taking Notre Dame tight end Michael Mayer, Dallas Cowboys taking Utah tight end, Dalton Kincaid, the Ravens taking USC wide receiver Jordan Addison, and the Los Angeles Chargers taking wide receiver Zay Flowers from Boston College.

And the award goes to Justin Herbert get another weapon, baby, Zay Flowers from Boston College. Ben, Ben, please accept this award. I would love to. So a lot of good options on this one. I love Dolan Kincaid to the Cowboys. I like Jordan Add. Madison, the Ravens, love Michael Mayer, the Packers.

Everybody here deserved to win. I love all my co-whatever. That's like Ben being a director. He's like thanking his editor. He's like, I couldn't have done it without you. Yeah. But Zay, I was really impressed with what I saw from Flowers on film, but I thought he was wordingly small.

I thought he played around 170. He added a bunch of weight for the combine. Looked to carry a great. Still ran in the 4-4s, still had excellent jumps. He's very clearly a high, high-caliber athlete. Yes, he's a little smallish, but the number one thing the chargers need is field stretching. They need the ability to get vertical. They need to get on top of defenses. So every time somebody mocks them, Jordan Addison, who's just better in like the short area

on like breaking tackles and you've been using the quick game. Jackson Smith and Jigba, who's so good. He's so, so, so good. But he's in the Keenan Allen mold of just not being super fast. It misses the forest for the trees. Kellimore, the new O.C. there has one and one job only. It is to find a way to make this Chargers offense more vertical. And that's what Zayfairis brings. I think right now people talk about like Quinn Johnson and Jackson Smith and Jigba, Addison and even Jalen Hyatt out of Tennessee as like these top receivers in the first round of the NFL draft. I think Zayflairs could go earlier than a lot

of people realize it's very good. Yeah. The second I started talking about Donald Kincaid, I was like, why are you doing this? This is such a bad wasting time here. Yeah. Why am I making other people? You're giving the speech and you're like, why am I talking about the awards at my childhood bedroom? How did I

get here? Exactly. That was such a misallocation of time. I talked such a big game after my first won. And then just immediately ruined it after the second one. All right, right here, we've got best picture. And it probably would have made sense if we did some pun on best picture. But we did that last year. We did it again.

Best picture this year, we're just like, what is the overall best picture? Like, what team will have the best picture after the round? Like, basically, which team will win the draft on the strength of their first round? And the nominees this year, obviously a lot of teams that have two first-run picks. We've got the Detroit Lions taking Texas running back, Bejohn Robinson, And Texas Tech Edge, Tyree Wilson. We've got the Houston Texans taking Alabama quarterback Bryce Young and Northwestern tackle, Peters Gronsky.

And we've got Seleck, Philadelphia Eagles, taking quarterback Devonbent Whitherspoon and Edge Rush or Will McDonald. That was too many Anns right there. You really focused on the ants, yeah. Yeah, I was, well. Anyway, the winner is the Detroit Lions getting Tyree Wilson. Upset. Huge for the franchise.

Wow, we're giving, so the award here goes to a team that drafted a running back in the first round. Football guys doing a lot of like off to the site, like advertising big billboards in LA for like running the football matters. Heavy campaigning. Yes. Yes. This is. Running back has always been the fundamental at core of football running backs.

Guerrilla marketing just like pasted everywhere in the city. Yes. I think that's what happened here. Running back winning this award is like top gun winning best picture. It's like, listen. I get that. Sometimes it happens. Craig's like if only the like justice was served, is that what you're saying?

No, no, no. I like top gun. the best movie one? It's a it's a populist choice. Yeah. That's fine. Best running back. Find the best out line. Craig, watch it, Bejohn. You feel it. You're feeling your gizzard. Ah. We're back, baby. Prehistoric ball. Let's go. This is like getting people back into the theaters right here. Bejohn Robinson is electric. Yeah, I think obviously Tyree Wilson just fits the mold of what the lions are trying to build. He's big. He's really long. He's physical. He's going to like knock people off their block. It's just going to, you know, take a hunk out of people.

Knee cast. Yeah. He's just like the embodiment of like the Dan Campbell ethos for the lion. So I love that one. And then Bejohn Robinson, man, they want to run the ball. They've, they've invested so much in their offensive line. He's super explosive, super smooth. This is a part of their identity. He fits that perfectly. And by the way, he can catch the ball. He can really like be a huge factor in the passing game. The person who I was picturing when I made this pick in my mock draft was Todd Gurley because I think that's the type of role he can play in this offense where he's really big part of the screen game.

I'm not saying he's going to be like an actual slot receiver because I know that people talk about that a lot and it never ends up being what actually happens. But I think B. John Robinson, huge part of the passing game. He's going to put up just ludicrous stats. We're going to be talking about him all year long. He's going to win. Thank you, dad.

Thank you, mom. Thank you everyone. Thank you all my friends. Thank you, George, my dog. How is Top Gun Maverick won best? picture. How long do you think Tom Cruise could speak before they played them off? 15 minutes? Well, they got to worry about the church of Scientology. So, you know, you got to be a little bit careful there. I feel like D.K. is going to have to make a call to Tyree. It was going to be very

upset after that award speech. You just wonder, Bejohn gets all this, this clock time. Did I do no work with a lead actor, top five pick? Come on. When ESPN does the, uh, the Jimmy V week, and I always try to, we watch that Jimmy Valvano speech about, which is just incredible. It's like, you know, if you laugh, cry and think every day like the hell of a day. But, like, the best, I mean, when he starts, like, you know, he's giving the speech and he's giving the speech. And he's like, oh, look at them, that blinking light. Like, they think I care about their time.

It's like to play them off. All right. We have a bonus award here. I know that was just big picture. Best picture. Sorry. Shouts out, Sean Fennacy. This next award, this bonus award is called the Slap Award.

We had to do it. So the slap award is, which GM or coach will fans want to slap in the face after the first round? a movie called The Slap? No. No. Remember. Will Smith slapped Chris Rock in the face last year. Keep my wife's name! Okay.

Out of your fucking mouth! That's the most Oscars I've watched in my entire life, was that entire process. The nominees for the Slap Award are the Titans having Malik Willis a quarterback while every one of their division rivals has a young quarterback. The Giants taking an edge defender Keon White instead of a wide receiver. Green Bay drafting offensive helps after Rogers leaves and just the Broncos for not having a pick.

Oh, he's just going to ignore you, Ron Burgundy, reading drafting helps because it was written down. He's going to ignore that. Ron Burgundy over there? Drafting offensive helps. Green Bay drafting an offensive player after Rogers left. My slap award goes to the Giants drafting Edge Defeder Key on White because...

Tough night for the Giants. Yeah, they just draft. Edd Defender, Kvon, Tibbon, on the first round, who's excellent. Before him, they drafted Azizzo Jolari, edge defender in the second round, who's tremendous. They've extended Leonard Williams, who's like a defensive tackle, but who actually functionally plays defensive end. They have a third round pick in O'Shaun-Zimitt. They're fine.

They have so many defensive ends in the world, and you just got Daniel Jones, who got this huge contract throwing to Isaiah Hodgins and Darius Slayton. Don't slander Isaiah Hodgins. I like Isaiah Hodgins. I like Isaiah Hodgis. Playing behind Mark Lewinsky and Joshua Azetu, it's just not a good offense. Draft somebody over there, man. You want to know the, like, God's honest truth on this one?

I think I was like, I have too many receivers in the first round here. I just like in this, with this specific receiver class, I don't know if the giants are going to take, like, the receiver four or five in this, in this scenario. Don't let us behind the curtain decay in your process. Well, on the board, I'm just being truthful because I think if the giants, if Smith and Jigba flowers, Addison, and Quinn Johnson go off the board, which is what happens in this case, are they going to say, we're going to take the fifth receiver

with our first round pick or are we just going to take the sixth or seventh or eighth one in the second round instead. You know what I mean? Like, that's why I went edge defender and also to speak to so like you make great points.

Are we doing an award ceremony or arguing? Play him off. Play him off. I just realized this is not part of like this. Get him out of here. D.K. I'm like Codier coming up on a bit. As the Giants fan here,

I just want to say, Daniel Jones, dual threat, elite weapon. It's why you pay him so you don't have to have any receivers. It's just Daniel Jones. The Eagles have a ton of pass rushers. It never hurt them.

There's no such thing as too many pass rushers. Nothing funnier than watching Wink Martindale have to play like Nick McLeod at corner for four weeks and be like, do you want a sixth edge rusher? Will this help you? Will this be good for you? No, there's nothing funnier than being at the NFL Combine and seeing Wink Martindale and like Lulu Lemon. And you're like, really?

Wow. That's not what they had to do it. Always wearing the hat. Always wearing the Giants hat, which I appreciate. Because a lot of times the NFL person walks by and you don't realize it until too late. You're like, oh, that was the Packer's safety's coach. wink Martindale, baby. Giants hat everywhere he goes.

Make it very clear what I do in this building. All right. That's our mock draft to Oscars. Please check out DekisMockdraft. At nifledraft. com. We're going to get to some emails. We talked on the last show about the local Luke Ridenhowers

in that everybody who's drafted, everybody at the combine, is like the best player from wherever they're from. They're the best player that everyone who's ever played with them has ever seen. And so we asked people, please email at Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail. com for your Luke Ridenhowers.

Oh my God, that everyone responded. If you have not emailed us, please. We got so delicious. Ringer Fantasy Football at Gmail.com for your local Luke right now or the best player. They don't even, all right, we're just going to go through. It's from Sig. Sig.

I went to high school my freshman year with Patrick Beverly. Somehow we ended up in the same gym class and somehow I ended up trying to guard him during a game of basketball. For context, I am Ben Solex-Hite. Pat Bev talked just as much shit on the court then as he appears now. He's almost too successful to qualify for this, I feel like. He might be. We have less.

We also got someone who was like this 10 year old joined the like 14 year old baseball league and it was Anthony Rizzo and the other coach is really mad about it. But yeah, he's too famous. Yeah, the idea is it has to be like a mediocre professional player that it was the greatest player ever that came from your hometown.

So this is from James. James. Royce Freeman. Oh, there we go. Loved. James says I'm from Yuma, Arizona. And the entire Yuma County tried to tackle Royce Freeman. And he just brushed us off like Dandruff.

That man had mothers crying on this. sideline thinking their baby boys were deceased on the field. We had this middle linebacker who we all thought was built like Brian Bosworth, just a brick shith house, and Royce decapitated him in the A gap. Jesus. That's not good. The best ones are always guys like, like Royce who are built on size or then guys like, was it a two to outweil and Wanda Robinson that had like the 108 yard punt return?

Guys were built on speed. Guys with like elite physical traits in high school are hilarious. We got a guy said that Malik Booth played at the West Fourth Courts in New York city and routinely destroyed just average dudes. It was insane. I watched him mix up with dudes so badly. The guy just walked off the court and got directly on the subway. Just left.

Never to come, never to return. So with Zach, Zach. Zach. My dad was Cole Aldridge's seventh grade teacher. Cole Aldrich's center. He was the center for the Kansas J.Ox in 2008. Cole Aldrich was so tall in seventh grade that he couldn't fit into the desks for school. So my dad just set up a folding table and a folding chair for Cole.

for Cole Aldridge to use as a desk. Wow. Cole Aldridge was a legend at Kansas. This is always when a tall person would go like, see, it sucks to be tall. Sure people always want to be tall. See, it's inconvenient. Yeah, you played center for Kansas, Chief. I don't need to hear Jack, all right? I got a text after the whole Luke Redauer story and was reminded.

And then I was like, holy shit, I forgot. I cannot believe I forgot this. Jake Locker was another local legend where I grew up and like right around the same age as me. He was the first overall pick, right? Or he was like one of the top. three. I can't remember exactly. Oh, he was two. Okay. And he went to Udub, right? Yeah, he went to Udub. So he was in high school, he went to Furndale. He was like just an absolute freaking legend. Like he was 240, 30 pounds, like as a sophomore in high school,

he's just trucking dudes, but he's playing quarterback. And then yeah, he went to Udub was legend there. So obviously totally forgot about that, but that was a great call. And then he was just like a bust or whatever. And now he, he, he mash his heart in softball. He's like a local legend now in softball, like in the beer leagues. He just absolutely just hits dingers and Jay Clocker, great guy I will say though for Cole Aldridge it is kind of tough now because he's not playing basketball anymore

and he's probably like 35 years old and he's seven feet tall so that is tough could not possibly care less yeah dude don't tell short people about the tall people don't be the problems seven feet tall is pretty tall

don't complain to me about how you're having a bad hair day all right I don't want to be seven feet tall or your height right now Craig with seven feet tall with unbelievable swiftness with zero hesitation Would I rather be seven feet tall?

Would I want to be seven feet tall randomly after I've left my athletic prime? No. But like over the point of my life, yeah. If I'm in seven foot at 18, absolutely, brother. We're playing college hoops. But if you could start your life over and you're just going to be seven feet tall, you'd throw those dice? Yes. Every tall person thinks it's unreasonable.

You guys don't get it. This is the one circumstance in which the grass is literally greener on the other side, emphatically. I'm closer to your height than I am. Seven feet tall. I would not want to be seven feet tall. That sounds miserable. An unnamed former ringer employee who is also short had the same rant.

He was like, the day that tall people can name anything bad about being tall other than like airplanes and like knee pain. It's like, please just give me a call because being short messes up every moment of my life. He's that. Anyway. It drives me nuts. It's tall privilege, dude. I just think seven feet's really fucking tall. That's nice.

Don't twist the tape. No one's arguing that. That's the point. All right. Please email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com for more local Luke written hours. I also, the other one, dude, Chris Humphreys, who is the goddamnie player, who's married to Kim Kardashian. Yeah. And then such as good swimmer, he was better than Michael Phelps as a youth swimmer. Are you serious? Yeah. Holy shit. There's insane stories of these guys. They're crazy. And he chose basketball. What a mistake. No. All right. Two Jorgas

that a lie. America's favorite segment. Yeah. I'm going to do another one here. In honor of the Academy Awards, I'm going to do one more movie related. Oh, I'm about to go two for two for too, baby. Category. So today, though, I wanted to go real jargony, because the last one was not jargon. I just, like, picked movies. Today, I'm doing film set jargon. So this is jargon said on a film set.

I'm not going to give descriptions. I'm just going to give you the jargon, and you're going to have to decide, okay? Here are the, uh, three options. Butt plug. Okay. Juicer. Danny DeVito. Danny DeVito is a thing.

He's not going to tell me. He's just straight. just stone. So this is, let's cut to the chase, the game within the game. This is once again about respect and does Craig respect us enough to either make up butt plug and think that he has to be past us. We're like butt plug, yeah, that's real. A juicer.

Deuter. Danny DeVito. I think Danny DeVito's fake. I can't explain it. DeVito is obviously real. No question in my mind. Danny DeVito is real. Craig's poker fake.

I'm just watching Craig so intently right now. Yeah, I'm watching him do. I'm inclined to say juicer is the fake one. Yeah. Because I think butt plug refers to like maybe something that is similarly shaped to a butt plug, which is not something I expected to say on a show about Lamar Jackson and Daniel Jones. So I'm going to guess Jucer. I think it's Danny DeVito because ultimately this is jargon in a workplace and things get shorter and nicknames.

It would be called it DeVito. Too many syllables. Craig just refuses to acknowledge anything we're saying. That's good logic. That's good logic. I'm sticking with Jucer, but I respect that logic. I'm going with butt plug. He wants to get a little big different things. I don't think Craig.

I don't think Craig respects this at all. Danny DeVito is the lie. Damn it! That was good logic, high fits. I still hold that you don't respect us. I've never said this out loud, but Craig, what's a butt plug? A butt plug is like a, it's like a, it's like a thing to reduce spigot size on a thick light stand. If you want to put a smaller light on a thicker light stand, you need to like reduce the spigot size so we can fit on it.

And they call that a butt plug. Should be a speaker. Okay. And then a juicer is just the onset electrician. Ah, that makes sense. And then the Danny DeVito thing, there's actually a different name for it. It's called the Gary Coleman. And a Gary Coleman is a short sea stand.

And a sea stand is like these like metal things that people used to like, you know, put lights, flags, things like that on it. You clever son of a bitch. So I just put together short actor. See what you did there. Dude, there are so many insane film jargons. Can I do one more quick one? Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Hot pad. best boy half apple Best boy fake No best boy is 100% real I see that Best boy real

As I said Best boy grip Say what was the hot plate Or hot Hot pad Best boy half apple Hot pad I was thinking of the

Austin Powers And he's like Like a baby's arm Holding an apple Okay half apple fake 100% Hot pad fake I think the half apple is fake

Half apple is real Hot pad is fake Yeah That was my third choice You're right A best boy is a real job on set. You're like the assistant to the head gaffer. You're supposed to be like a real good hang.

You know, like you're supposed to like pick the great music, whatever you're around. Oh, wow. A half apple is an Apple box. An Apple box is used for various things. And people stand on them for short actors talking to tell our people. Perhaps if Gary Coleman and Cole Aldridge are in a scene together,

you would need a full Apple box because a half wouldn't be big enough. Yeah. And a hop heads fake. I like that. It's a fun game. Have Tom Cruise doing Top Gun? Do they have to cash short? people or do they have people on half apples?

I bet you they do both because if you want to cast like, you know what? In Mission Impossible 7 they had, what's his name? Henry Cavill. He's like a big dude and they want to cast him. So they definitely put Tom Cruise on an Apple box and they're having a conversation with one another. So does everyone on set have to sign a confidentiality thing to be like, no one ever mentioned that you saw Tom Cruise being on an half apple?

I think it'd be a full apple with Tommy. I think that's out of the bag. that I think people know Tom Cruise is a little short. All right. Cats out of a bag. That's all we got. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, D.K.

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I think that is the actual Oscars closing credit music we were using. I don't know. So thanks to just don't sue us. Yeah, I want to say we've asked this question one year ago. That would kind of be good PR for us, right? Oscars sue fantasy football button. I feel like, I feel like the Academy Awards can really, they can't afford to like take action against anybody just open

promoting their product for free because they kind of need the they need the buzz right now so I feel like they shouldn't get too mad at us that's our defense you guys need the buzz right kind of need the buzz you guys we have a young audience you need young viewers yeah did I just hear a dog was that nugget yeah nuggets nuggetts been viving she's been hanging out there were people working around the house today it's tough day for her she's holding it together she's yeah george it's been like stretching for the last 15 minutes right around my chair so like if you hear scratching on like the carpet, that's George just doing that. Also, he shook off. He like did the shake thing and his collar made a bunch of eyes.

I'll apologize if you hear that. You got to shake it out. Sorry or not sorry. All right. Goodbye everyone.