The Ringer NFL Show - The Perfect Draft Pick In Each Round

Episode Date: August 26, 2022

We move through each round of a 12 team half PPR draft and determine our favorite picks at their current average draft position. We finish the show with a few listener emails.  (1:14) - R1: Justin Jefferson, WR (5:14) - R2: Saquon Barkely, RB (8:08) - R3: Kyle Pitts, TE (10:53) - R4: Mike Williams, WR (15:05) - R5: Courtland Sutton, WR (18:17) - R6: Michael Thomas, WR (22:24) - R7: Adam Thielen, WR (26:22) - R8: Chase Edmonds, RB (27:19) - R9: Trey Lance, QB (29:13) - R10: Dameon Pierce, RB (30:38) - R11: Russell Gage, WR (32:09) - R12: George Pickens, WR (33:07) - R13: Kenneth Gainwell, RB (33:56) - R14: Tyler Allgeier, RB (42:39) - Emails  Check out The Ringer’s Fantasy Football Draft Rankings for tiers, sleepers, and more! Email us! [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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And today, we are going through the perfect draft round by round, our favorite picks in every round. We're going through Yahoo's average draft data, and we're just going to look at, you know, the picks that the players that we like at value. Obviously, we have our rankings of fantasyfball. orgon.com. But luckily, you can take advantage of the other rankings

on the other sites that you'll be drafting on because we don't think they're as good. But everyone else in your league will be following those rankings like sheep, and you can take advantage of them. So we're going to go through every round. We'll start with the first, obviously, although it's kind of a weird one to start with. We'll talk about later than the first round, because the first round, obviously, we have rankings for reason.

We have Christian McCaffrey first because it's like, you know, no risk it if you get the biscuit. Take Christian McCaffrey. If you're kind of afraid, if I'm getting hurt, take Jonathan Taylor, take Justin Jefferson, take Cooper Cup, whoever. Take Austin Echler for all you want. Live your own life. Let's act like the first round. Those guys are all off the board. So there's no Jonathan Taylor.

There's no Austin Echler. There's no Christian McCaffrey, no Justin Jefferson, no Cooper Cup. you have like let's call it like i don't know the seventh pick six pick whatever dk who are you targeting in like the first round in that situation so obviously you want to have a top four or five six pick in a draft that's advantageous because there's players that i like a little bit more over there but i would say there's two guys that comes down to for me dalvin cook of minnesota and jimar chase you didn't say chase right like chase no he's on the board yeah i don't know i just feel very confident that jimar chase has like an extremely high floor i think this offense could potentially

play a little bit faster pass a little bit more obviously if you remember last year they're really trying to protect joe burrow at the beginning of the season and they're running a lot they weren't really moving around they didn't really let him kind of go and be himself i guess until like later in the season his is average passes per game went up significantly down the stretch and so seeing what chase could do last year i mean imagine if he has a little bit more volume i know that he's due for negative regression in the touchdown department but i think he's just that good that he could be one of those guys that is just an outlier all the time. I think my goal, and we'll get to this in the second round,

but my goal in the first round, if I don't have picks, honestly, one or two, if I'm not getting McCaffrey or Jonathan Taylor, I want to get out of here with a receiver. And I'm happy with Cooper Cup, Jefferson, Jamar Chase. I honestly think Stefan Diggs is kind of underrated a little bit right now because he's just kind of not the new sexy toy like the other guys are. So if I could, and I have picked six through 12, I want to get out of here with a wide receiver so I can get another good running back

in the second round who I think is underrated. So in our rankings, we have Dalvin Cook sixth, we have Derek Henry's seventh. I feel like Craig is not pulling trigger on Derek Henry, realistically, in the first eight picks. No, the only running backs I'm doing, I would take Dalvin Cook. I think that's a solid pick, and I would take Najee Harris. Other than that, I'm getting a wide receiver. So what's the pick, D.K., where you kind of feel uncomfortable. Because in the first round, no matter what pick you have, you kind of always are like, okay, this is how I would go, right?

And then there's kind of a cliff where you're like, I don't know what I would do at this point. So I actually am pretty comfortable. Like, I mean, Justin, like, I don't, even fifth, maybe I'm dumb, but I'm still a little afraid of getting on the Derek Henry train for the Eidcliff year. I'm happy with Justin Jefferson. I'm happy with Delvin Cook. I'm happy with Jamar Chase. I'm happy with Najee Harris for the Steelers.

And honestly, at that point, I'm also fine if Derek Henry falls to me. So the top nine players I'm pretty happy with. And then if I have 10th, I guess I would kind of begrudgingly take like Joe Mixing or Stefan Diggs or Devante. Is that where you are, like the 10th pick? which is pretty good in the first round. Yeah, you don't feel as good about that first pick, obviously, but then with the snake draft, you come back, you get two for one.

So, I mean, it kind of evens out. Truly, though, like, if I had my choice of a draft slot, I probably would take four because I feel very comfortable with any of the top four. And then I just, like, you know. But you feel comfortable with the top four because you're assuming McCaffrey and Taylor go, and then you're going to have your pick of Cup or Jefferson. Yeah.

Realistically, Justin Jefferson might fall due at eight this year because everyone wants a running back. People are going to take Derek Henry earlier, Austin Eccler, like, you know, people might not take Cooper Cup till fifth. You can get just Jefferson 8th, which I think is like perfect, honestly. Do we want to make Justin Jefferson our pick in this round,

then, like our favorite guy? Because you can get him potentially, like you were saying. You can get him early or you can get him late, potentially, depending on your league. Yeah, it's almost like I want to have like Jefferson and then like a parentheses, Jamar Chase, basically saying, like, if you can get Jefferson, we feel great about it,

but if he goes third and you have the ninth or 10th pick in your draft, you probably still could get Jamar Chase. So we're kind of like landing on, get a high-end wide receiver because there actually is a bit of a drop-off between the first round, wide receivers and the second round. I'm very confident

in the first night or ten players. Second round, guys, for me, the person that leaps off the board here is Seekwon Barclay. I mean, in Yahoo Leagues, he's like going 20th. I think he's going like 28th.

We have him freaking like top 12th. I mean, we've got him 10th and a half ppm. I mean, I think Seekwan is a first round running back. You can get in the second or third round, and it's the exact kind of thing

where if you start you, draft like Justin Jefferson and Seekwon, I'm on cloud nine. Have we ever put our eggs in a basket for one player collectively as much as we have Sequin in the history of this show? Probably not. I don't think so. I feel fine about it. It's like when Matthew Barry went all in on Michael Vic that one year and it just crashed

and burned. There is the potential that Sequin Barclay is just like Mike Davis times 10 in this whole show just craters. We'll be looking for new jobs. My next contract is dependent on Sequin Barclay not rolling his ankle. Maybe we could be running back for the Falcons. Oh, my God. True.

The other one is also CD Lamb. Yeah. These are the two guys I had circled as well. He's the only receiver in this second tier that I'm comfortable with. Tyreek Hill, I don't think I'd want. D.bo Samuel, I don't think I'd want. But, yeah, C.D. is his target share. He's going to get so many damn targets this year as the number one.

I like it. The Dark Horse second rounder that I would throw out here is DeAndre Swift. The Lions running back? I'm starting to get more confident at him again because there's a number of things. but first of all, obviously, I think the offensive line for the Lions is one of the better ones in the NFL, potentially could make an even bigger job.

The offensive lions. The offensive loins. Remember when Solac broke the news during the draft of the Lions and he excelled it loins? That was the best. Anyways, he came out, DeAndre said came out in the media the other day

and he wants a thousand yards rushing and a thousand yards receiving. Probably not going to happen. I also would like that. Can we like collect all the players predicting their own stats and get like a little batting average on what they predict. It's probably very, very low.

I will say, though, I think that overall, the reason we have so many running backs early, this is important to talk about because if we get Justin Jefferson or Chase, as Craig was saying in the first round, you come back at Seguan or Swift or Camara, whoever in the second. But also if you go running back, running back, it's also incredible because as I think we're going to go,

the next six rounds here, there are so many receivers coming up. So I do think I probably want a running back, if not two in the first two rounds this year. At least one. I'm not super comfortable starting out with like Justin Jefferson and CB Lamb. You can totally do it if you want.

It's just a little... Yeah, that would be an interesting build. Let's go Sequin here. We gotta go Sequin. Let's go Sequin. It's such eye candy though. I feel like every year it always sounds good to start with two big stud running backs.

But as we've seen by looking backwards, most of these guys flame out or get hurt and then you're scrambling the entire year. And that's what receivers offer you is security and stability. That's why I think I'd like to go one receiver one running back in the first two rounds. Third round, the guys that jump off me for me here is if you want to get a tight end, there's Kyle Pitts, and then I also just love Michael Pittman for the Colts.

Like, no matter whether you want, if you go running back, running back, Michael Pittman's a good first running back. And then if you get Justin Jefferson to chase whoever digs, and Michael Pittman's your second guy, I think you're golden. I almost have no problem with anybody on this list. I'm going to say, I like everybody in round three. Yes. And like, here, I'll rattle off a few of the guys here that are in round three, according to Yahoo's ADP. Lenny Fournett, Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, AJ Brown, Zeke, T. Higgins, James Connor, Cammakers, Kyle Pitts. I like all those players.

You hate Cammakers. Cammakers. This makes me nervous. Patrick Mahomes, David Montgomery, Michael Pittman. James Connor makes me a little nervous too because... I'm into it. I'm into him. James Connor, so I do think that Eno Benjamin is going to be probably more of a role, a bigger role this year than we think. And also, you know what's crazy? You know those things that happen in a given season and you just kind of forget. Yeah. Remember how the Cardinals started like 7 and 0 last year? Yeah.

They always don't like, they always just fall off a cliff in the second half. I think, you know, Benjamin thing is overblown. I mean, Chase Edmunds played 12 games last year and, and was like splitting time. But Connor was started to become really good when he got hurt. That's all I'm saying is that of this loop group of people, we always talk about like sometimes in fantasy, you just need to like get over the fact that you like don't just have elite players all the time. Having said that, all of the players in this group are so unbelievably talented, like T. Higgins, Kyle Pitts, Patrick Mahomes, Mike Evans, and then you also just have like James

Connor in this group, and part of me does feel a little dumb. If he doesn't look out, just being honest. I think we can, so we can do this by process of elimination, because we got basically all these guys highlighted. I think Lenny Fornett is making me a little nervous of late because the offensive line for the Buccaneers has been decimated by injuries. There's been a little bit more hype about Rashad White kind of playing a bigger role in the passing game. That could potentially make Fournett's most, like the most valuable thing about Fournette last year

was he caught a ton of passes. And if that gets chipped, whittled away this year, that definitely makes him like less attractive to me. Mike Evans dealing with a hammy. Just hate to see that. Keenan Allen, a little bit older. I don't know. I'm looking at Kyle Pitts right here.

Yeah, I like Kyle Pitts too. Kyle Pitts is my favorite pick in this range. So we're doing a 12-round draft, a 12-team draft here. So we're talking kind of like early 30s, which is where we have them. I'm fine with Kyle Pitts. I kind of like the idea of getting Pittman, but like I, we could do Kyle Pitts. I mean, this is nice, though, Justin Jefferson, Sequin, and then Pitts. Yeah, see, that's the thing.

What I like is like, is like, the best outcome is all of those players are the number one player at their position. Correct. It's not really crazy to say that. It's not a stretch at all. Okay, so the fourth round. I wish I could skip this round. Yeah. I hate all of the players in the fourth round.

I mean, the guys that got in the fourth round here in, like, Yahoo drafts, Justin Herbert, who, again, is super early. Breeze Hall for the Jets, who isn't even quite yet the starting running back for them. Jalen Waddle for the, so the number two receiver for a Dolphins team with Led by Tua. D.J. Moore for the Panthers, Deonti for the Steelers, George Kettle, like Terry McLaurin for Carson Wences, Washington commanders. I don't like any of these dudes. Josh Jacobs is here.

I literally would pick Josh Jacobs 50 spots later, maybe. Well, the thing about this category, or this. round is that we're moving into number ones on teams that suck. And it used to be number ones and twos on teams that are good. That was rounds two and three. And now we're on number ones on teams that suck. We have Terry McLaurin. We have DJ Moore.

Jalen Wall is on number two even. We have Travis E.T.N. Like, we don't know if any of these teams are going to be good. It's one problem, happy. Mike Williams is sitting right there, Craig. Yes, honestly. Mike Williams probably has the most... I don't know.

The team is going to put up the most points out of anybody on this list. Yes. We're so much higher on my... Mike Williams, though, and then other things, and realistically, at some point, you would probably just realistically take DJ more and hope that Mike Williams falls to you because of the chance that that's possible.

That's something I've noticed when I've been doing mocks and just other drafts is that Williams tends to fall quite a bit further than I think he should. But isn't this accounting for that? This is Yahoo's ADP. That's true. The other guys that I got, the other guys that I would probably circle here,

Travis E.T.N.'s on this list. And then, I don't know, How are we feeling about Deontay Johnson? I'm starting to get bullish again on him. I know that he gets, I know that he gets fake hurt every single game, which is always a roller coaster, but man,

he looked really good in the last preseason game. Like he looked like he's just running really precise routes. He got open in the end zone. The play got called back in it, and he scored a touchdown, but it was a hold. But I mean, I don't know.

I just like, I feel like we forget about him because there's been so much pick and type, but he's still sort of their number one guy. I just think compared to a lot of other guys on this list, his opportunity and volume is so much less defined and secure. Like Terry McCorrin, I would put my life on it that he's going to lead the team in targets

and probably by 50%. Deonti Johnson, you know, with the quarterback situation and with how many players they have on offense that can be utilized, I don't know. I just don't feel as confident that he's going to get the workload. The other guy who's in this list, and I think we should mention this because he's been a Glansberg

this preseason. We really have not talked about him as Darren Waller. He's practiced one time. Yeah. This entire offseason. I'm starting to get very worried about this. I think he has a, well, for a long time it was an undisclosed injury. And now is it a hamstring he's been dealing?

It's a hamstring issue, but he also wants a new contract from this new Patriots regime that's taken over the Raiders. So who, you know, who knows. It's a hold in, maybe. Either way, it's not good, right? It's not good if he has an injury that's kept him to, like, one practice. It's not good if he wants a contract from a Patriot, Josh McDaniels. And, like, is the Josh McDaniels organization going to start their tenure by giving a 30, how old is Waller?

30 year olds. 29. He's almost 30. He's almost 30. He's almost 30. He's crazy. He's crazy. Like a big contract.

That just seems deeply unlikely, especially because he's not exactly a blocker. So either way, I don't think it's great. So I'm not like interested in Darren Waller. So let's whittle it down. To me, this comes down to. I think it's DJ Moore. Mike Williams or DJ Moore? How we feel about Baker?

I mean, unless Craig wants to pull out a veto for his Mike Williams, love, I think we take D. That's fine. We have them side by side. in our rankings. Yeah, we all like DJ Moore. We all think he's really good. If he can finally score like eight touchdowns,

he's going to be a high-end wide receiver two, maybe wide receiver one. And honestly, I think we're okay with not going with a running back here because there are a few other guys in the next two rounds that we kind of like to be our second back.

DJ Moore's been in Glansburg for us too, I think. We just haven't really talked about him that much. Well, he just doesn't do anything worth talking about it for being honest. Who cares about him? Yeah, but this is supposed to be our favorite guys in every round.

We haven't talked about him. If I want to do Mike Williams, then screw it. Whatever Mike Williams is, you can talk about him. DJ Morris had 1100 yards every single year for the past three years and exactly four touchdowns of past. Completely and utterly unremarkable. All right. Fifth round here. This range, I just love Cortland Sutton.

Honestly, Cortland Sutton for the Broncos is the kind of upside. I just love it. And it's, again, the upside of having Colton Sutton be like Russell Wilson's guy in this Denver offense. And then you might be able to plug him in as your flex. And like, generally speaking, you do want. want your flex to be receiver the way you do your draft. When I think about like an awesome draft, Sequin at running back, Kyle Pitts,

and then our receivers are what, Justin Jefferson, we'd have Mike Williams or DJ Moore. I didn't know what we just decided. And then like, I can't keep track. And then Coralton Sutton is your third guy. That's exactly kind of what I'm thinking about.

I love Corton Sutton. I'm very, I'm starting to get nervous. We're overhyping him though. But let's go with it. I feel like he's going to be the go-to guy. I know. I mean.

But this is, why you throw a bunch of darts at the receivers in the middle. You try to get five of the top 40, if you can, five of the top 50, and you're going to have three receivers every week. That's the whole point. Craig. Craig looks so skeptical. It's unbelievable.

Well, I'm just thinking about what we're going to do at running back coming up here. And it gets pretty bleak pretty quickly. There's essentially quiet. You're the one who talked us out of running back in the first round. So you got to get us out of this hole. Well, AJ Dylan is sitting here staring at us in the face. And I love AJ Dylan as an RV too. I think he's probably the best back remaining.

If you, if you peek ahead to round six, there's Clyde. That's about it. J.K. Dobbins, I guess, Damien Harris. You peek ahead to round seven, Miles Sanders. Like, are we comfortable with- I'm fine, I'm kind of, honestly, I'm kind of fine waiting outside the top 100 than going running back. Like, if we don't go running back here,

I want to wait four more rounds. And just get like Damian Pierce. Basically. And I think that's an important discussion, though, because that's, yeah, basically. Because I'm pretty confident in the leagues I do. and if you're listening to this podcast, I think it's worth betting

that you're going to beat your friends to waivers and getting a running back during the season. You know what I mean? Yeah. You just pay more attention. I actually don't disagree with you. I do think the least important position in fantasy football is your RB2

because you can find that guy on the waiver wire. Interesting. Okay. I personally wouldn't want A.J. Dillon here, but I guess what I'm saying is I kind of want to commit, if we're not taking A.J. Dylan now, I don't want to take him for like,

I don't want to take a running back. for at least like 25 more picks. All right. So a question real quick, because we all differ on this a little bit. Do you guys like Alan Robinson or Corton Sutton more? Because Alan Robinson is sitting right here too

in this range. I've got Alan Robinson slightly higher. You guys have Alan Robinson slightly lower. In our rankings, we have them literally back to back. We have Alan Robinson 41st and we've Cortland Sutton 42nd. I would rather have Cortland Sutton

because I feel like admittedly the floor is probably like lower, but I think the ceiling's higher because at the end of the day, the ceiling to me of the number one receiver for Russell Wilson and the Broncos, I'd rather have than like Alan Robinson's ceiling as the number two behind Cooper Cup for the Rams.

And like splitting hairs at one point, but I just think Cortland Sutton's incredible. I think I agree. I think I would take Cortland. All right, let's do it. He has been getting like really consistent buzz from camp. I think that's like the big thing. So here's the, because now we're looking at the next round.

You know what I'm thinking. as we're talking about our freaking perfect draft. This next group, I mean, I just see Gabe Dave sitting here. I see Jiu's sitting here. Michael Thomas. Jalen Hertz is sitting here. I kind of want to take a receiver. Yeah, Jalen Hertz is a quarterback.

Would you want to go a Russian quarterback? Would you want to go a receiver? Well, Hyvitz, are you going to strong arm us into taking Trey Lance at quarterback? Well, I'll, look, this is a democracy. I'm going to tell you my thoughts. If we don't take Jalen Hertz right now, I think that we either get Trayance around early or you just wait and you settle for like whoever's the last quarterback. Aaron Rogers, Stafford or Kirk Cousins.

And we just take them in like the 12th round. Overall, though, you know what? As much as I do love Justin Jefferson, sometimes I do feel more comfortable with like the two running backs up top, that first round running back. Yeah. Because I like not thinking about it for like 10 more picks. Until they get hurt week two. Yeah.

You know what? You're scarred. You can't just always have that attitude. You're like, you're, I'm scarred by the data, by math. Yeah. Can I toss out Michael Thomas here, six round? Yes. So, Craig, you're all in on the Saints this year.

I think it's actually a good bet because we don't really know exactly what James is going to bring under this new coaching staff. And he was, like, when they utilized him last year, he was pretty damn good in fantasy, right? Like, it didn't last very long because he tore his ACL. But this team, I think this offense just has untapped potential that we're not really accounting for because they were so, run heavy last year. They looked so terrible at times last year with Tateham Hill and Trevor Simeon was Trevor Simeon their starter for a little while last year. I can't even remember.

It was like bleak. But yeah, I think Michael Thomas, we haven't seen him in two years and we haven't seen James, you know, much lately too. So I think that there's a lot of untapped potential here. To go big picture for a second, the reason that all of us, but often me, are just shit talking all these middle round running backs are because the other guy is going in like real drafts right around here. Dobbins of the Ravens, Damien Harris for the Patriots. And again, Damien Harris led the, like,

or had 15 rushing touchdowns last year and was still like 19th among all running backs. Yeah. And the reason is because Gabe Davis is sitting here, Juju sitting here, Michael Thomas is sitting here, Darno Mooney for the Bears, Chris Godwin for the bucks. I'm not saying whichever receiver we pick right now will definitely be the best of the group. But throwing a dart at that range when Debo went in like the seventh round last year, this is where Debo was going, Cooper Cup was going, just where Jamar Chase was going. You want to be throwing darts at that instead of these running backs. Yeah, the upside's so high.

The upside is so high. And we have all these receivers very similar. So I guess I would vote Gabe Dave lightly, but I'm not like married to it. Gabe Dave, Amon, Rous here, Michael Thomas. Godwin, man. Godwin's just sitting there too. I'm not convinced on Godwin because we have, I like our rule of like a guy's coming back from the ACL injury, especially like a late season ACL tale, like Chris Godwin

towards ACL in like week 14. I'm not, you have to kind of forget the name because they're not going to be that guy necessarily right off the jump. Think about how rested Michael Thomas's ACLs are. I think we go Michael Thomas here and... Let's play for the upside. This guy is the potential to be like a top seven receiver in the league and you can get him in the sixth round. And he's going to be our fourth wide receiver. And also like, like Hyfitz just said with the dead zone of running backs and how great the wide receivers are in those rounds,

I actually think that there is fertile ground in the later rounds at running back. There's like this ugly zone between like rounds four and seven. But then when you get to like eight, nine, and ten, there's actually running back. So I'm at maybe still comfortable starting on my fantasy team. So it kind of works out perfectly to wait through those middle rounds and not draft a running back then. So right now our team is Sequin at running back. And then we have Justin, Mike Williams, Quillton, Sutton, and Michael Thomas at receiver. Yeah, like, come on.

So that's, and we have Kyle Pitts at tight end. This is the perfect draft guys. This guy, Jeff's perfect. Next round, there's a theme here. There's still good receivers available. Yeah. Adam Phelan is here. And honestly, I like Dallas Goddard in this range,

but we already took Kyle Pitts, so he's not. Honestly, there's a world where part of me, which is we, like, the alternative universe is if we didn't go, Kyle Pitts, I would like Dallas Goddard here. Or if we hadn't gone Justin Jefferson in the first round, you know, do we get a fifth receiver here? or do you guys not care? Well, it would only be our fourth.

We only have three receivers currently. We have Cortland Sutton. Oh, no, we have four. We have Justin, Justin, and Michael Thomas. So we have our flex filled. I'm fine taking five receivers and then you don't have to come back

to the position, honestly, if you want. You take five and you can take one more. I like the value here. I mean, yeah, like this is where you hammer the receiver position, I think. Or do you go back to back, running backs in seven and eight, round seven and eight and hope that one of them hits?

You take Miles Sanders and then Chase Edmonds. or Tony Pollard or Rashad Penny, and you get two of those four guys. I'd rather take receivers in this. This is like the dead zone. We're taking a bench guy in round seven? Yeah, I'm kind of okay with it. DK, what do you think?

Well, you have to account for injuries. You have to account for schedule. You have to account for buys. I don't know. It's like he may be on your bench some weeks, but having that depth. And again, it's like opportunity costs. Are you going to be able to get a guy

who can score this many points later on? probably but like like let me just make this pitch we're in round seven right now and we're we're staring at adam feeling i know you both love adam feeling i like him too i do and there's like rachad batman there's elijah moore hunter renfro two rounds later we're christian kirk alan lzard so you know uh chriselave uh they are going very there are good receivers available later i'm not saying these guys are all great but like is there really that big of a there's interesting Christian Kirk and Adam Thalen, we can get him two rounds later. And right now, we can start to throw darts at running backs that we think have a decent potential, like

Rashad Penny, Tony Pollard, Chase Edmonds. So this conversation is why we do the tiers exercise, because what Craig said is correct. Like, you want to be able to look and you're like, okay, I value these guys all loosely in the same group. And if there's like 12 receivers left of the same group and there's like three running backs left, like you do generally want to be looking at the tiers of who's left. So if that's true, would you want to go we could go quarterback you grab a deck or do you what would you want like a like that's my thing is running back devon singletaries here i'm like oh you could just wait and just get i don't like any of the other that's the whole point i don't like these other options i don't like

my i guess my thoughts in a nutshell i think that this is still such generally speaking this is still such prime receiver value territory that i think generally speaking if you're not like comfortable i mean you can take running backs here i just think generally speaking speaking, I don't think there's a huge difference between grabbing like Devin Sincletary now or waiting like two rounds and you can probably still get Tony Pollard. And I don't know, part of me thinks that if you want those running back slots filled by like, I don't know, into your first seven, eight picks, I would just take the running back in the first round.

Maybe I'm overthinking it. But I kind of just think that at the end of the day, I want another darn at receiver here. I don't, I will leave it up to you guys. But I actually still would vote grabbing a receiver. That's fine. I think D.K. is leaning towards that as well. My take is basically I like the receivers in this spot. I don't like the running backs.

So I'm just going to take the player that I think has the highest upside, not trying to fill out like the roster kind of deal. You can always trade. You can always get the waiver wire going. So that's what I do in this position. So you want to do Adam Thielen? Yeah. Okay.

I mean, Adam Thielen in this offense is going to, is I to be making one of the And we have Jefferson and Thielen now, which is a little weird, but I don't really care. It's kind of cool. Yeah. We essentially can't be disappointed if we, watch a Vikings game. Irv Smith just because three touchsons. Okay, so this next round, we could go, I mean, running back or quarterback.

And this is kind of what I'm talking about. I don't know. We can still get Tony Pollard here. So second running back if we want. We can still get Ramandre Stevenson. I like Chase Edmonds or Rashad Penny. Chase Edmonds? I would do Chase Edmonds.

Chase Edmonds is good. I like this one a lot, actually. If you notice in the Dolphins last preseason game, he looked really dynamic. He looked explosive. They utilized him in the passing game. I've always thought he was good. He always passed the eye test. He, to me, is like one of those running backs whose ADP is, like, way too low, way too low.

Just because of the uncertainty in the Miami backfield. Nobody really knows what the split's going to look like. But if he gets, like, the Elijah Mitchell role. Exactly, exactly. I have faith in Mike McDaniel to, like, design a good run game, get him, like, opportunities to, like, you know, pick up big plays. And I don't have a ton of faith in guys like Moster and Sony-Michel, kind of, like, taking big parts of this running game from him.

So I'm all in. I like this Chase Evans pick a lot. I think he's like a very sneaky RB2. Well, hold on here. Sorry, I'm just throwing wrenches in this pod. Hyfitz mentioned grabbing Lance and if we do it, it should be a round early. That would mean we'd have to get him right now because Lance's ADP is in the next round, the ninth round, and we're in the eighth right now.

So if we want Lance, and if anybody wants Lance in their draft and they're in a snake, they will probably have to reach for him if they want to secure that they can get him, especially this late when there's not a lot of quarterbacks left. So if we want Lance, should we grab him a round early? Well, it's a perfect draft, so can't we cheat and just say we'll get him like where he usually goes? Well, your advice was that you're going to have to get him around early. Yeah, well, yeah, you probably will. But, like, it's our perfect draft.

So he falls to us in the round where he's normally going. And like, let's just cheat. Okay. Chase Edmonds, it is. We're saying you're going to get him a hundredth. And, I mean, that is where he's being drafted. Yeah, perhaps. It's the perfect draft, not compromise for your, like, your fear of your friends skipping you draft.

Okay. True. All right. So that means ninth round we're taking Tray Lance. We're missing out on guys like, honestly knowing that great. Melvin Gordon, Drake London,

Christian Kirk and Alan Lazard, I like a lot. But, you know, yeah. And I think that's a big, I think that's a big, I think that's a big,

I think that's a big, considering the possibility of, like, Tray Lance is like a value if you follow them. Like, you don't necessarily, like, I forget where he's ranked

and he's been something like 120, one, 125 or something. Yeah, his ADP or whatever, rankings are so. We're still taking him like 25 spots of where he might be on the east. SPN platform. And so, you know, it's important always remember like where guys are ranked

relative to like the website you're on because that's the numbers next to the names are always going to drive. But this right now, this team we have, again, it's the perfect draft, but it's like trai with Traylancet quarterback now. We have Seekwan at running back. We've Chase Edam's a second running back. Receivers are Justin, Mike Williams, Quentin, Michael Thomas, Adam Thieland. Adam Thieland is our fifth receiver and Kyle Pitts is a tight end. It's pretty sweet. I love this. It's sweet. So that brings us to the to the 10th around here. And the guys, We got Chris Olives hanging around Chase Claypool, Brian Robinson, Damien Pierce, Kirk Cousins.

Damian Pierce is staring me right in the face. Yeah, he is a glaring one to me here that I really want to get in like to. Yeah, we need depth. He's got high upside. He doesn't have to start for us. Yeah, if he missed the show earlier, he basically has been given the starters treatment

for the Texans now. Like he is their starter by all accounts, by all prognication. What is it? Prognostication. Prognostication. How about you just prediction, which is like the word people use to not sound smart. Let's do that. Let's do that.

Which like, it's not hard that he like already has potentially secured this role. He's going up against Marlon Mack who's coming off an Achilles tear and Rex Burkhead who's like 35 years old. So any rookie getting started his treatment is really interesting to me. Damian Pierce says like your RB3 or four is I think pretty sweet. Yeah, that's pretty wild that he played one preseason game, got like six carries and they're like, we're good. And we're choosing him over like Cadiz Tony.

We've talked a lot of a Cadarist Tony. We're taking him over this. I'm here's Tony keeps getting hurt, man. And we're deep right now at wide receiver. Chris Olavee I would love to have, but oh well. Brian Robinson's a good one here too, though, like just to shout him out. I would still, I would take Pierce over Robinson still at this point just because I think he has less competition. Antonio Gibson still, I think, is going to be a part of this offense.

But there's a chance that Brian Robinson is the starter for Washington and you can get him in the 10th round. Now we're in the 120s. And this is where rankings kind of go out the window because people are just going to start becoming wild cards. Yeah. We only have free running back, so you want to start doing that. Having said that, Garrett Wilson for the Jets, or honestly, do George Pickens for the Steelers. Part of me just wants to add that.

I know six receivers, probably a lot already. I mean, I'm down with that. Like, I'm just saying at this point, Pickens is up there or like we have to start throwing darts at the running back position. How you guys feel about Nyheim Heinz? I wouldn't. Are you buying this hype?

No, I'm not taking Hines that have it. Because here's thing, what's the best version of Nehian Hines this season? If Jonathan Taylor doesn't get hurt, what's like the best version of Hymh Hines. He's like he's like souped up J.D. McKissick. Yeah. Which could be good. What,

like, like he's not going to have a Dady Woodhead role because they have Jonathan Titt. I don't know. I feel like Heinz isn't doing it for me. Like, and I, I love the Hym Hines a couple years ago,

but I feel like it's, I would rather just have. So you'd go, you would go like Pickens over a guy like Hines? Dude, I, I haven't just mentioned Russell Gage. Like,

Russell Gage is kind of just chilling down here. And, yeah. has, like, Julio Jones kind of killed Russell Gage's draft value, and I'm not sure that should be the case, especially with Mike Williams banged up, Godwin's banged up. Like, Gage is the only guy who's not either 35 or hurt on the box right now. Completely agree. So you want to do Gage? I mean, he'd be our sixth wide receiver, but it's just, it's just, it's value. All right, I'm down.

It's the point, man. Vacuum it up. All right, so we got Russell Gage. Now we're in the 12th. We do want Gage over. Pickens. Wow, that's like our old thing. I would rather take Pickens because you know how I work. We're playing ceiling versus floor here. Gage, obviously higher floor. Pickens, higher ceiling. So let's just see, let's do the ceiling. Let's do George Pickens. Screw it. Well, technically

George Pickens is the 12th round. We're in the 11th. Yeah, but that's the, it all goes out the window. Once you're in the 12th round, 120th, no one cares anymore about like, he's an exciting rookie name that people have been hearing about on Sports Center or like Instagram or whatever. At that point, people don't care if you're reaching 12 spots. So, like, if you want the exciting rookie, you have to get them 10 spots early. Oh, now that's okay. But in the ninth round with Trey Lance, it's the perfect draft, Craig. I feel like you guys are understanding the rules of this exercise.

Whenever Hibbiz decides, right there on the dock, like you can see where these guys are going per ADP per round. Let's stick with it. George Piggins in the 12th. Yeah, baby. We got Russell Gage in the 11th. George Pickens in the 12th. Now we definitely need a running back.

Well, yeah, geez. now we're just going crazy. I'm going Kenneth Gainwell right here. Yeah, Kenny Gaines. It's slightly concerning to downright alarming that Boston Scott was playing ahead of Gainwell in this last preseason game. That does make me a little bit concerned

about Gainwell's overall role in the offense this year. But I still think he can grab a hold of that pass catching role in this offense where he's playing on third downs. He's playing in the two-minute drill. He's getting options in the red zone where he's like utilized as a pass catcher, split out, things like that. I still think there's the upside there.

And maybe Boston Scott is more or less the handcuff for Miles Sanders. So I'm willing to take a bet at this late in the draft, like Kenneth Gainwell, for sure. I'm really excited about drafting. I think so, too. I mean, that works for me. We need running backs. And then go into like the next round.

Like now we're like the freaking 160s relate. Now we're really just down in the muck. I mean, Tyler Alger, the rookie for the Falcons. I mean, I like him just be there running back to shit. And Khalil Herbert for the Bears. I kind of think upside, it's got to be Alger, just because how good is the Bears running back going to be this year?

Almost David Montgomery's hurt. Like how good can Khalil Herbert actually be compared to, I don't know. I'm much more optimistic for Tyro J. The Falcons are... The Falcons aren't good, but at least Arthur Smith has a history of pulling pretty oddly decent offenses out of his butt. And I don't know. I think that I'd rather bet on like a zone scheme running back in the Falcons.

And like, again, these are literally the young running backs for two of the worst teams in the NFL. But I think the Mariota Falcons have much more of a chance to be relevant and have like a semblance of a running game than the Bears to me. D.K., what do you think? So I've been all over the place on Alger. At this point in the 14th round, it's really not that big of a deal either way. But like Algeria in the first preseason game, I think was playing with like the third and four string. And then in the second preseason game, he did get some reps with the ones.

So I still think it's a pretty big gamble that he's actually going to even have a role in the offense. he's a fourth round pick like that doesn't guarantee him anything um but he could be like at the end of the day the best running back on this team the best pure running back obviously cordarle patterson is ahead of him but yeah i i think he's definitely worth just taking a flyer on he's going to stick him at the end of your bench and if he becomes the starter then that has a ton of value you could trade him or you can you know roll with him as your rb two in certain weeks or whatever and there's value there so to me this late it's not really worth arguing too much about it i do like alger i think he's talented and like the situation is good for him to potentially have a big role.

All right, I'm fine with that. That's basically our team. So we can go, Deacon doesn't care about defense, but I'll just, I mean, I, I mean, look, it's defense. It's hard to predict. I mean, the Bill's defense, hard to go wrong. 49ers could have a really good deed this year. The Rams, obviously are going to go high.

I think the Colts could have a weirdly good defense. And honestly, dude, also the Saints, the Saints defense is like underrated and I think could be fantastic this season. So there's a lot of good options. Patriots, I mean, it's kind of nice to always just roll the Patriots, when in doubt if they fall to you, but the Ravens defense. I would say the Saints. It's obvious to throw the bills out there.

I would say the Saints defense. I'm into it. Kicker, Evan McPherson. Love that guy. If you, like, he literally sat and watched the Super Bowl show at halftime. I mean, if you're going to, like, you actually get your pick and litter. You should be your last pick. But if Evan McPherson is there, you should take Evan McPherson.

Justin Tucker's like the guy and been the guy. Evan McPherson's more fun to me than Justin. Oh, are you going to pass in the torch already? Wow. I am. Because it's like, Evan Buferson's more fun than Justin Tucker.

We're talking about kickers here. I don't care of this fun. Give me the guy who is the best. It's our dream. Evan McPherson's the man. It's easy to say Justin Tucker. Okay, so here's our team. Our team is a lot of topsy.

Our team is great. We've Trey Lance a quarterback. We did not have the backup quarterback. I usually do like to do Kirk, but realistically, it's fine. If you're in a 12 team, one QB league, you're fine.

He can stream. Seaquin with Chase Edmins as our running back too. And then we also have Damian Pierce, the Texans running back. And then we have Kenneth Gainwell for the Eagles, Tyler O'Don Fackens. We're a little light at running back.

Receivers are stacked with Justin Jefferson and Adam Thielen. We've Mike Williams, Michael Thomas, Coralton, Sutton, Russell Gage, George Pickens. We have insane receiving talent. Cowell Pitts a tight end. Here's my question. This is allegedly our perfect draft.

Let's be honest. Look ourselves in the mirror for a second. Would we be happier with this team if instead of Justin Jefferson in the first round, we had taken like Derek Henry? we need to say Derek Henry like if we're taking a running back Derek Henry and Najee Harris

if our team was instead of what we had would you rather have Sequin and like Derek Henry at running back or Sequin and Dalvin Cook Sequin and Najee Harris and then instead of Justin Jefferson we just have to live with

Mike Williams, Cortland Sutton, Michael Thomas, Adam Thielan and Rushel Gage, George Pickens and we have to decide who to play each week. I mean this is the this is the big question of the universe. Yeah, this is the age old question

here's why I ask the question not because we need an answer. I think for everybody listening, you need to know this yourself going into your draft because I imagine everyone listening, you probably kind of have a gut feel of like, oh, I don't like that or I like that. The answer is you can do both.

Some people are going to be like, yeah, I don't care about my running back spot. Like, I'm better at finding running backs and waivers to my friends. I'm happy to chase Edmonds. Like, I'm happy to do the value. Like, I'd rather that totally. But like, some people are going to hear like Damien Pierce is your third running back and like kind of freak out.

like Craig's instinct there in the fifth round of like, are we going to like wait on this is a little crazy. So I think if we, I think we all really strongly believe that if you can vacuum that receiver value in the middle of the top 100, right? That allows us to get Mike Williams, Cortland Sutton, Michael Thomas, Adam Thiel and Russell Gates, George Pickens,

but you kind of have to know your gut check going in. Are you cool to wait on your second running back for a long time? Because if not, maybe you do want a running back two of the first three picks. I just think that's important to know. For me, I'm okay with it, but also I'm totally fine not taking a risk. Like, I might not need to reach for Jemar Chase. And I'll just take Derek Henry, maybe in the first round, if you feel Derek Henry and Camara, Derek Henry and Sequin.

And it's, they'll take six receivers in my next 10 spots. I don't know how you guys feel about it. I think, so we, Craig, I think, said this earlier in the pod. Like, having your weakest spot be RB2 is fine with me. Like, I think that's okay. Because you can do so many things on the waiver wire all year long. There's so many injuries at the position. You can pick up guys that get you through weeks.

Alternatively, like having going full on two RBs with your first two picks, you have really sky high potential on that team. Yes. But again, it's high variance. That's the problem. So it just kind of depends on like your personality. It's like a Myers-Briggs thing. Like, are you willing to eat that or are you willing to take that risk that one of these guys

could just get hurt for five, six, seven, eight games a year and deal with that. Or do you just want to go for the tip-top potential in terms of, you know, your starting line. If you have two elite running backs, like, you're going to be hard to beat, too. So, yeah, I don't know. This is the age old questions. How do you build your team? I generally don't do the two RVs to start out. But it's not like that's never been successful.

It's definitely been successful. It's just, you know, it just depends kind of like what you want to be. It does hammer home for me, like, don't have the job. Don't pass unlike the, the Cortland Sutton's for Josh Jacobses or in total. Tonyo Gibson's. I think this exercise makes it stronger for me. I like the safety of having elite elite, elite wide receivers who every week, weekend and week out, weekend and week out are going to be on the field and they're going to be like putting up numbers. Having, I think just having guys like Sutton and Mike Williams is fine,

but having Justin Jefferson as your number one, I really think makes a big difference. And two 27-year-old running backs as your first two picks, it just scares me. Dalvin Cook's never played a full season. I just don't like that. I don't like putting my entire team in that basket personally. To me, Rob receivers are just safer. You're going to make the playoffs if you have Stefan Diggs

and Jamar Chase and Cortland Sutton. You just probably will. So to play devil's advocate, what if Sequin gets hurt and we're wrong? And now you're just totally weak at running back. Have we made a mistake with all these receivers? Well, that's why I was opting for like A.J. Dillon

or like James Conner's types. You know, I think I like going with a safe pick in the first round. And then in the second and third rounds, you can get your Sequin into James Connor or a Sequin and Zeke. Something like that. Or like adding an A.

Dylan in the fifth. A Clyde Edwards Hilaire. That's where I kind of land. I think we waited a bit too long, but we're... So is Pitts too much of a... Too expensive or whatever for what we got there? I think we're definitely like a little bit... We're thinking with our, you know what, rather than our brains with Kyle Pitts. Or a bit horny, yeah. But like, AJ Dylan was there in the fifth, we passed.

Clyde was there in the sixth, we passed. I think we could have done something like that and felt a little bit better. I'm just like... So yeah, there's a world of which Pitts is the luxury or whatever. like we're just wanting the cool car in that spot. But at the same time, imagine if Pitts and Justin Jefferson both have like outlier seasons. Like you will win this league.

Yeah. But you could still have both of them and A.J. Dillon. That's the point of this exercise is you're going to have to make sacrifices or compromises somewhere and just like make them on purpose, ideally than by accident. That's really all I'm saying. You know, like I'm not,

we're not taking Josh Allen early on purpose. And we went with a tight end. you know, just whatever you're doing, just understand what's happening as you go and know what you're comfortable with or not. So yeah. Emails? Yeah. Emails. That was our perfect draft. Couple emails. We got an email. We got, ooh, we have an update from Cal on we were talking about the reality show, the naked attraction show in our last pod. The British reality show where you It's even better than I imagined. We were debating whether there was actual nudity or if it was blurred out because in this Puritan country that we live in, there's not much nudity on

cable TV. I feel like you went backpacking in Europe 20 years ago and it changed you. I'm telling you, it was culture shock to see commercials with full frontal nudity. That's not a thing, right? Oh, it's absolutely a thing. Right now, there's a penis in a commercial in Europe. Well, I don't know. I don't know. Honestly, I would love to know. I would be shocked. Some of our European listeners give us give us the deals. Like, I remember being in Spain in a a TV was on and it was like like graphic nudity into commercial I don't know if this is maybe like is it possibly you were drunk and they were showing porn at it's at a bar no this was like a TV show it was like cable well do you don't speak Spanish so how do you know maybe it was a

parody I did speak Spanish at the time I don't really speak oh yeah well see you so yeah Europeans give us the give us what's going on with that yeah email so ringer fantasy football this email This email will strengthen my argument, I think. Go for it. All right, we'll read the email. Okay. So this is from Cal.

Cal. As a dedicated watch our naked attraction, I feel like you need some more very important information on one of the strangest shows on British TV. Of course there's no censoring. You see everything. Sometimes they ask them to dance, shake their bits, put cream on their nipples, anything the person choosing wants. At the end of the show, the person choosing gets naked as well.

Supposedly for no other reason than for the people they are picking. to go, yeah, I like their boobs, dick, or bump. The dates never go well because there's no compatibility and personality. 75% of the time you can tell they just want to bang. This is on TV, apparently, like just nudity. They're like asking them to sing. This feels like fraternity hazing or something as a TV show. This is, or like sorority house hazing.

This is unbelievable. What are they doing over there? It's broadcast on Channel 4. Oh my God. Isn't that like what the great great. British baking shows on now? Our version of ABC. He did say it's late night, so it must be...

But you're telling me the Great British Baking show is on at like 7 o'clock for families, and then they leave, and three hours later, this show is on the same channel? I need to know from Cal. We need to start an email from Cal. Is this like a premium cable show, like a Cinemax that you can pay for? Skinimax. And get at like 1 a.m. Is it something like that where it's technically on British TV, but it's not a part of

the cable package? this is so funny I'm around the Wikipedia right now it says that the date they go in is at 9 a.m. the next day Oh my God that's a very funny time to have they not slept or what

why is it 9 a.m.? I don't know Maybe it's like the Sims It's like just a little woo-hoo And then they go about their day This show slash email reminds me of one of my favorite Deep Thoss by Jack Candy

I'd like to see a nude opera because when they hit those high notes I bet you can really see it in those genitals God. They ask him to sing what's happening with the genitals during those songs

is what I want to know. D.K.'s asking the real questions here. These are what, this is what people want to know, Craig. I don't know what's happened to this show recently.

I don't know how we got on this track. Game of Thrones is back. It's basically it, yeah, is it? All right, Cal, we need more from you. Once again,

give us more about this show. I mail us at ringer Fantasy Football at gmail. com. We are married. Americans, we don't, we don't, we're not used to this kind of thing. You have to have like, is this premium cable or is this just on broadcast your traditional cable package?

I need to know. Our, is there full frontal nudity in commercials? That's what I want to know. We could Google. Well, no, let's, we have work computers. This is less fun. Let's not Google this on the work computers. All right.

Craig. Yeah. You have asked us to, I'm not totally up on this. Judge the names of your brothers fantasy football league members. Just judge their names. My brother's work fantasy football league. There's a bunch of listeners, I guess, in this league of our show, and they requested that we decide their draft order based on just their first names.

And we can decide the order in any way we want by judging their names or whatever. So we get to decide who drafts first and last and everything in between in this 12-team league. The best part is I'm looking down the list. There's several people with the same name. So there's, I'm going to go through the names. There's Andrew C and Andrew K. there's Scott H1 and Scott H2. There's two Scott H's.

And then we got Mike, Corey, Sean, Theo, London, Martin, Alex, and Aaron. All right, there's only one way to do this. I'm going to shoot from the hip. Craig, you don't get a vote. D.K., tell me if you disagree. London's got to be first. London's the best name. Why don't I get a vote?

You're not in this league, right, Craig? I don't know any of these people. Oh, you don't know any of these people. No, I've never met anybody here. Does anyone disagree? London's the best name on this. London's cool name. Well, I don't know.

Part of me was like, Fio's kind of cool, but part of me was like, Craig, that's what I thought. I don't care the order, but London and Theor are the top tier to me. They're like McAfrey, Jonathan Taylor. I thought the same thing, but then I was like, Theo and London have been dining off their cool names their entire life.

Who cares? That's not the purview of this exercise. Our job is to judge the... Now you're trying to like bring what, like... No, there were no rules in the... We don't have to judge them on the coolest names. My brother said, we're giving you a list of 12 names, decide the order, I don't care how. I would like to give... I think Theo and London should get the first two picks.

I just feel bad for the mics and the Alexes out there and the Andrews. Yeah. I feel bad for Scott H1 and Scott H2. Yeah. Andrew C and Andrew K. We're just going to give them like 9th and 10th because their name's Andrew C and Andrew K. Kind of, yeah. So we can give Mike.

I love there's just a Mike in here. You can just give Mike the first pick. I don't think of the same thing. Just give Mike the first pick. just Mike. Let's just give it to Mike. All right. Let's just give Mike the first pick.

Fucking Mike. Mike gets the first pick. I like that we're going unexpected. Nobody would have thought Mike. Sean, he spells at the S-E-A-N. He could get the second pick. That's like Sean Fennacy. We like that.

Yeah. Should just give Sean the second pick? Yeah, see, I think Theo and London are, but also I kind of like late-round picks. So we got to figure out what the- I think Aaron should be third. Why? I agree.

I just think Aaron should be third. I can't explain it. This whole thing's, God. It's all five. Hold on. We need to make one decision first. What is the worst pick in a 12-team draft in your guys' opinion?

I don't know. I'm ranking. It's too hard. I think it's like nine. I don't know. The real answer is the depends on the person. Nine just doesn't feel great to me. This is crazy.

Not everyone's us. My brother is going to take Derek Henry, no matter what pick he has. If he's the first pick, my brother's going to take Derek Henry. Like the idea of like us giving someone 10 because, oh no, like you might have Derek Henry. Who cares? I just want to pick somebody who we think deserves the worst pick. I think that's funny. You're going to try and give it to your brother.

Oh, your brother's getting the worst pick. I know who your brother is on this, by the way. No, you don't know if he's Scott H1 or Scott H2, and neither do I. Let's give Scott H1 and Scott H2 9 and 10, because those are our least favorite picks. I think that it's easy. Scott H. Do you think your brother would try to trick us because Scott H2 is probably your brother if you wanted us to not know?

If I had to guess, I would say that's correct, but he could be going a step further and knew that I would think that, oh, you're right. Triple reverse psychology. You're right. That's like, oh, so he's probably saying, Scott H1, but he knew he would have this conversation. I also know he kind of likes, he's a late round guy. He likes going late round and his mocks.

He's been mocking. We could be safe and just give the two Scott H's the top two picks. One and two. They get the two best players. No, we can't do that. Do you think anyone is interested in this other than 12 people in this late? Do you think anyone cares? Yeah, we got to hurry up.

I think London should have number four. We're going Mike, Sean Aaron. We're going London. And then Theo. London and Theo. London and Theo because we're giving them top six. They can get somebody good. I like Martin.

Martin's a great name. Yeah, Martin's a good name. Martin. Underused name, Marty. Marty. I like Andrew C. Can fit in Andrew C here. I was thinking of Andrew K because Andrew W.K.

Okay. I don't know what that means, but sure. You don't know who Andrew W.K is? I don't either. Who's that? Andrew W.K. You guys, what year were you born in? I was born in the 90s.

Andrew W.K. American singer? Andrew W.K. He is the, like, his whole stage schstick is he loves to party. Like, he just wants to party hard. What does that mean? Is he a singer or a stand-up? What does he do? Yeah, he's a singer.

He's like a band guy. So he's a band-a-band guy. Well, he's like... You mean a musician? He's a character, I think. Well, I don't know. If he's not a character, he's very much just buys into this character. So we're going Corey at 8 and we're going to go Scott H-2 and then Scott H-1 at 9 and 10,

which leaves Alex and Andrew C for the final two. Alex is last Hardcore Alex is last I kind of like the turn Alex got the best pick in this whole thing Alex got last so we have All right so Mike Sean Aaron London Theo Martin Andrew K. Corey

Scott H2 Scott H1 Andrew C Alex Scott H2 and one Shout out Mike We didn't forget about the mics of the world all right Congrats Whatever pick you want Mike

There we go okay Thank you to all those people Apologies to everybody who had to listen to that. Who's not in that league. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Trey Lance. I just think Trey Lans is going to be really good. Thank you, Mike.

Thank you, Andrew W.K. That's what I was going to say. Oh, sorry. Well, thank you, Lauren. Thank you, Andrew W.K. You guys got to look him up. So he's in a band that the band he's in is called. He's the lead of the band, Andrew W.K.

Oh, the band is that? He's like an artist. He's like Maria Carey. I don't know what you're like. What do you're like? What are you confused about you? Well, you gave a shit for not knowing who he is, and I don't even,

what is he even famous for? This is like the Mace thing, but even worse. He's very, very famous. I can't believe you guys have never heard of Andrew WK. I literally don't even know from what? From music, from TV? From music. Yeah, what do you mean from TV?

He's a musical artist. He's an artist. He's a music artist. We were talking the other day about Brett Michael, whoever that had the, he's a musician, but he had that TV show. Yeah, but he's famous from being a musician. That's why he got a TV show.

You guys have never heard the song Party Hard. I can't believe that. his Wikipedia describes him as a conceptual performance artist. Right. I'm sure what that means. He always is wearing extremely dirty white t-shirts that he's like hasn't taken off for a week. So he's a man in his 20s or 30s. He's just a man.

A pandemic man. I guess it's harder to explain Andrew W.K. This might be our largest blind spot in D.K's list of musicians. Well, I think part of the blind spot is, I'm not going to lie, Dika hasn't given us a reason yet. Like, what am I supposed to know? I don't know that he was an extremely famous singer-artist band guy in like the late 2000s or late 2010.

But at least when we had the Mace thing, we're like he was doing songs with Biggie and Dre that were like featuring like number one on the Billboard. Like what did he do? What was that party hard? What is that song? Yeah. Party hard. Party hard.

I don't know who this man is. I can't believe that. I'm trying to figure out. I think he was on one of the jackass movies. maybe. I love when like a name of a song that's ridiculous gets used in like very serious Wikipedia language. Like he had a single, he had a song called I Get Wet. It's like I Get Wet earned positive press from publications. One of his songs is called We Want Fun. He's just positive. He just wants to party and have fun and be happy. But also he like is always bloodied up and stuff

during his concerts. Yo, he's engaged to Kat Dennings. There you go. Do you guys know her? Yeah. That's crazy. Another very famous person. Oh, that's the two. two broke girls? Yeah. Oh. Wow. Cool. Maybe that's why he's famous.

I don't know. There you go. I can't believe you've never even heard of him. Like, I could understand if you didn't know much about him, but like never heard of Andrew WK.

I've never heard of him. That's weird. This is like the SpongeBob thing all over again. Is this what it sounds like when we quote SpongeBob to each other? Yeah. Nemetodes?

Okay. That's all we got. Okay. Shout out. I'll try to hear of Andrew W. K.S. Good luck to your drafts this weekend, everybody. Yes.

Good, Bye, everyone.