The Ringer NFL Show - The Players Nobody Is Talking About for Super Bowl LIX

Episode Date: February 6, 2025

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ready for the McShay show on the ringer, Spotify, and wherever you watch or listen to podcasts. football show live from Radio Rowan, New Orleans on the fan duel set. My name is Danny Hypertz, and I am joined in person by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlbeck. And today, we're going to be talking about the players that nobody is talking enough about in the Super Bowl. Kind of. I mean, everybody's being talked about. Most people are being discussed. A.J. Brown doesn't really count perhaps as somebody not being discussed.

But still, it's not in the homes. It's not Sequin. The Glansburgs of the Super Bowl. Yeah. Right. Yeah. The, you know, Travis Kelsey, he has talked about. I think other people have mentioned him.

But we are going to go through in earnest because I do think there's overdosing on, for lack of a better term, the people on the tickets, like Mahomes and Seekwan. And I think we're going to try to go through people that we just haven't talked about enough, even though we've been doing this for like 10 days. So we're just going to roll through all them. And yeah, we're soft, soft ban on Mahomes and Seekwan in case you haven't heard Seekwan's birthday's on Sunday. But.

Hyphitz asked us if we should talk more about Saekwan. I think we've talked about him a lot. Last night we were at a bar. Why are you asking about that? Well, last night we were talking about your ex like too much. Should we bring her up? She was pretty, right? You got to like her, right?

At some point, you've got to just stop talking about her. We were in the bar last night, and Sequin, they had the Kairon, I think it was the NFL Network or Fox or someone, and we couldn't hear it. It just said, Giants, letting Seekuan go, worst mistake in NFL history, question mark? And I turn you guys and I was like, is it? Brandon took a picture of it. Yeah, they would have had five wins this year had they kept saying.

Yeah, all right. So we're going to go through the most interesting people. We haven't talked about enough, really. And I want to start with D.K., something you said to me at lunch, which was Jalen Hertz and Nick Siriani. Yeah. Which, honestly, those are two people that we probably haven't talked about enough. I mean, especially in this era, you know, in the NFL right now,

the two most important people for most franchises, most successful franchises, are the coach, the head coach, or play caller, and the quarterback. Like, that relationship is the pillar of, like, most team's success long term. We got Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, yeah, obviously, like, Brady, Belichick. You go through all the, you know, all the years, Peyton, Breeze. And that's like, that is the relationship that matters most. And I feel like it's ironic and hilarious that this week we've barely talked about Siriani. Like, literally, I said this before the season.

I don't think Siriani matters. Like, he's irrelevant to the Eagles. You guys laughed at me. And I'm like, I actually don't know how much he matters. We should figure out if he does matter or not. There's a joke in Veep. That's what we'll be trying to accomplish in the next hour. Does Nick Sealy matter?

There's a joke in Veep where they're like, unfortunately, the government requires a president. It'd be easier if there wasn't one. It's like, before you have to have that coach, someone's got to coach the Eagles. But, like, if he didn't show up to work, I don't know if anything would necessarily change. It's like the head chef of a great restaurant who doesn't do any cooking. He shows up. But I think that guy matters. You know what I mean?

He's designing the menu. Like, Siriani's not designing the scheme. He's not, like, putting together the, I don't know, is he putting together their game plan? I don't know what he's doing. I think he's in the room. I think he is. Yeah, he's probably in the room. He's probably there.

That's not what he said. It's funny, though, because some of the stats of Siriani and Jalen Hertz are so impressive. I mean, Hertz has now been, Hertz has only been a starter for four years and he's been to two Super Bowls, which is the same as Mahomes. Mahomes won the two Super Bowls in his first four seasons. But we can't acknowledge that. I mean, under Siriani, they've gone to the Super Bowl two out of three years. years, he has one of the best winning percentages of any coach in NFL history.

Curly Lambo and John Madden and Nick Sirius. And like six months ago, the Eagles fans wanted him fired. Correct. He's the only Eagles coach to have been to the Super Bowl twice. Wow, yeah. I think he has a better record than Andy Reid did with the Eagles. Percentage. So, well, that's the, in all seriousness, I do think what Nick Siriani is,

is he's a baseball manager. And I think that the Eagles... I wish he would wear a uniform, like the baseball manager. He probably won't. to wear a uniform. He didn't kind of look good in it. Just he would put the big jacket over the top? Yeah.

He can pull it off. That suits him. But the way baseball teams run now, because the nerds dominated baseball and they haven't like fully beaten football yet, but the Eagles are run like a baseball, like analytics forward front office where in baseball now, it's like the Yankees of Aaron Boone where it's like the front office isn't just scouting players and making trades and free agents. The front office is managing the, like they have a grand vision, but they're also doing the day to day.

So, like, the Yankees lineup? Like, it used to be set by, like, who's an old school baseball manager, Lou Pinella and Charlie Manuel? He'd, like, write it down. Yeah, they write it on paper. Now it's it, the front office does. And the paper. Maybe get it wrong?

So you take the things down to them? No, no, my secretary does that, no. So what do you do here? What would you say? No, it's like the front office has set the lineups in baseball. They do everything. That's Harry Roseman with Eagles. We're like, Howie Roseman is the guy who's like,

they get the personnel control. They're doing this. They dictate the offense. that it's kind of like a program. And honestly, Nick Seriani is like a baseball manager. You're there for the vibes, the clubhouse. You motivate. You're kind of organizing.

But like, he does have way less. For someone who's so successful, it's bizarre, because he is a less essential component to the overall team's success just in terms of what his actual responsibilities are. He's like the queen, you know? He's just waving. Well, I compared him to, he's kind of like a portfolio manager, right? And I'm not sure because I, I,

appreciate the fact that he's a vibes guy like the vibes are important i think like vibes coaches in general i'm not against but i'm just not sure he's actually that good at being a vibes coach he's a culture guy who can sometimes poison the culture or create it and make it great well so it's easy when you're winning that's what i'm saying so here so this is why he's a portfolio manager theoretically portfolio manager your job is super easy when the stock market's going up right like everybody's happy you're doing a great job your chums your best friends whatever right every bet you make is hitting What you get paid for is what you do when the market starts going down, protect you from the downside. What you do at that point is what matters.

And if you go back, like, literally last season, the team unraveled. And his vibes did not save that. That's the thing is, like, the moment the Eagles, more than any other team, they hit any adversity and they all just, like, cave on each other. Like, literally, like, they lose any game. Literally, the quarterback is talking about the head coach. And the AJ, they couldn't be in the same room together, Hertz and Siriani. A few months ago. half the time. It go back to the restaurant analogy. It is like the show The Bear. I feel like

Nick Seriani is just cousin. It's just cousin Richie. Yeah, and it's like, okay, sometimes when the vibes are right, he's great. But other times when things are hectic in the restaurant, he's kind of annoying to be around. He's just want him to leave. And this is not a spoiler for the bear, but what is one of Cousin Richie's challenges, which is, what do I do here? How do I fit in? 100%. And he's like, oh, you're trying to fix the ceiling. Richie, you're going to make it worse. It's all going to collapse. And he's like, I got this. Boom. Yeah, and most of the time, to like just work the register. He's like, I'm better than that.

Okay, but now, so like to go full circle with Siriani, I think it's so fascinating because this game, if they win, his legacy will be pretty secure. Oh, my God. I know what I mean? He will go down as one of the greatest Eagles coaches of all times. Maybe he'll go down as a very good coach. Like, I don't know if he's ever going to be in the Hall of Fame or whatever,

but two Super Bowls, take them to two Super Bowls, win one. And, but if they lose, like, he could get fired. You know what I mean? I don't know where's the middle ground? Right. It's so weird, because if they win the Super Bowl, they become the only franchise to beat Mahomes and Brady in the playoffs. Yeah.

That's a great. Which is a legendary thing. Yeah, we can get to Philly aspect of them, too. Which is crazy. This is crazy. This is crazy. But if they lose the Super Bowl, literally he could get fired. And what's funny is, if Nick Siriani got fired after making two Super Bowls in three years,

is he like a top five coaching candidate? Well, I was going to ask you, let's just say that happened. Let's just pull on that thing. Is he working? Is he done that? Let's just pull on that threat. Let's say that Nick Seriani got fired this offseason, and the Giants hired him. Would you kind of make fun of him?

Would you kind of make fun of the Giants? Like, if they fired Mike Connollon. Would you be excited? And this year, the Eagles fired Nick Seriani, and the Steelers hired Nick Seriani. I would be upset about that. Yeah. But they're close. I think he's just a fascinating character.

Again, I go back. I don't know if he matters. But Jaylor Hurts is. You think the head coach of a Super Bowl team would matter? If you have to ask. I'm not sure. The players swear by him, but I do think there's something that all these love. The non-German hurts people really like him.

Lotton has spoke very glowingly about him. Yeah, that's true. Anthony Dubondo wrote a story at the ringer that Seriani's honestly become a Philly guy, where it's like a true Philly guy in the sense that people have his back love him and the people in Philly love him and everyone else hates him, but that makes the people in Philly love him more. So I do think that's a flywheel. He's like, he's like, you know, getting a fight at the bar, but he's my friend.

But Hertz is like this too. You're kind of like, when the Eagles are rolling and Hertz is playing well, I'm like, I hate to, I never use. use this term. I tried to never use this term on a show, but he's one of the few people to say about, Hertz has the winner thing where it's like every year in college, like he just does just enough, he's the king of just enough, he goes to Oklahoma, like, he, I mean, he's the first benched, but yes, but then he also got unbenched for, I guess, too, it got hurt. I guess that was the theme. But he, it's, it's, hurts has a weird mix of team

success with like personal limitations throughout literally being a friend. I mean, he was the first freshman to ever play for Nick Saban at Alabama. He was the first player to make all four college football playoffs as a starting quarterback. He was one of the first things as a transfer. And so then he gets to the NFL and he's like immediately good. Don't forget how much better he was than Carson Wentz. All the, Siriani asked, all the players just loved Hertz more than Wentz. That's why they had to get rid of Wence.

And then you go through and we're here. Hertz is second Super Bowl in the last three seasons. And I'm like, he's the whole crux of the game. The whole game hinges on the Chiefs are probably going to be like, go ahead and beat us, Gailin Hertz. We're not sure you can. The whole game. What's funny is he almost did two years ago when he was fantastic in that game.

Well, that team, the Chief's defense was so much worse than that happened. And the Chiefs defense was like this rag-tag group of Chris Jones and rookies. It was like Carlis was a lookie. A lookie, a rookie? A rookie. Well, he would have been a wookie. I don't know. I don't even know what I said. But anyway, but the point is they're all young that they didn't know how to play.

McGuffie and Carlophtz and all those guys. Well, it's like seven of these 11 guys were first or second-year players, and now they actually know what they're doing. It is tough. I think Sirianian and Hertz run a tough spot where if they win, it won't be because of them, and if they lose it, they will get the blame. Yeah. You know what I think.

And that's tough. And that's where I can admit. Can I admit something while we're here? No. I'm going to do this in bad faith. If the Eagles lose, I'm going to be very bad faith. It's Siriani's fault. Yeah.

And I'm not going to look at it with the rigor that I should. It's Rostersman. It's Sequin. Yeah. It's the line. I'm not going to reevaluate my prior belief in McSiriani if they win. Honestly, I can admit that? You can do whatever.

I won't do it. Jaylen Hertz is so interesting. Is he underappreciated or overrated? Honestly, both. He does so many of these well. It's like simultaneous, like, both. Like, on a good team, he's so great because he doesn't. He doesn't really turn over the ball that much.

He's actually pretty accurate, good deep ball. You told me he's fumbled nine times exactly in every year of his career? In five straight years, he's fumbled exactly nine times. I don't know what that means. That means you won't fumble in this game because that would make 10. So he's not going to do that. That would be like a wobble in the moon. Yeah, but he doesn't turn the ball over.

He's obviously automatic in the rushing game. He's automatic in the short yardage game. He's an accurate player. But then also it's like he sucks against the blitz, doesn't throw over the middle. You don't feel confident about him in a big spot. Sometimes he's this weird balance of almost like Siriani. When the team is good, he can look so good. And you're like, man, everything's cooking.

But if you put Jalen Hertz on a bad team, if you put Nick Sariani on a bad team, it would go terrible. He is a very specific type of system quarterback, right? Is he a little Russell Wilson idiot? In the way in the passing game, yes. Jalen Hertz is 100% in Russell Wilson where he doesn't have the exact same style. Russell Wilson is faster. Russ ran one scrambling with agility and Hertz wins with power. but Hertz is 100%.

He is mostly what he is and who he will be, and, like, new offices, coordinators and minds are not going to change the game he has, and he is about as good as what's around. It is the Jalen Hertz offense. Yeah, the Jalen Hertz offense, and it's as good as what he is around him, and, like, it is what it is.

But the other person that... I mean, some people are going to turn off the show when I say this. But someone who's kind of been under-discussed this week is actually Travis Kelsey, which maybe that's disgusting for me to say that. But we have not actually talked enough about Kelsey in his specific game.

He looks like Tars. from interstellar. He runs the cars. He runs the cars. Yeah. I'll never be able to see that. Tars! I think he has been under-discust. Even though he's had a pretty good playoffs,

he had that one big game against Houston. But I don't know. Taylor Swift had a weak Grammy's performance. You know, she didn't perform. She didn't win anything. Honestly, the main thing she danced to not like us, and I think she participated in the A minor. I gotta say, the Taylor Swift,

when people dance at the Grammys that's sitting at the table, it's tough. It's tough. It's tough. They all know they're on camera, watching her dancing not like us. I don't know. I don't know what she should be doing, but it's, There's no win because imagine not the answer.

Yeah, right. That's a statement as well. You gotta do just like the white man overbite. Yeah. Maybe that's the movie. You get it like, pay enough attention but not be too into it. Honestly, there's an art, I'm sure there's an entire PR strategy around what to do

when you might be cut to at an award show. We should, that should be a thing. You know, Veep, there should be like a Veep show for Crisis PR in LA, but it's actually just like, you think it's like scandal, but it's actually just how to dance at the Grammys and not look weird. 100%. Like, don't roll your eyes. You never know when you're going to be cut to.

Hitch, stay on the strikes. It's like when you put your mouth over your, like, or your hand over your mouth when you're calling plays and stuff. They have to do that when they're talking. Totally. But yeah, Kelsey, it's like, I think this is the all-time moment to hang it up if they win the Super Bowl. I can't think of a better time in anyone's career. Yeah, I haven't really given it a lot of thought. Like, this could be his last game.

I think it is his last game. Personally, professionally, it's all coming together. He'll have won three in a row, four total. He's the best playoff tight end of all time. Dude, we didn't talk enough about having as many 100-yard games in the playoffs as Jerry Rice. If you match a Jerry Rice record, that's like, it's unthinkable to match the Jerry Rice. Yeah, most records if somebody is second, and then there's like 4,000 more yards, and then it's Jerry Rice. Yeah, yeah.

But here's my question for you, because you know more about celebrity culture than I do. But I don't know, I don't think the word is best to your run ever for a celeb because, like, Taylor Swift just had that. Or like, you know, maybe Michael Jackson or whatever, but like there's been other big celeb years, like two-year periods. But if you think about where Travis Kelsey was two years ago where he was just like one of the two or three best tight ends in the entire NFL. And then since then, beat his brother in the Super Bowl, became the single most famous non-quarterback and probably a top two most famous player in the entire league.

You guys say he's famous more famous than Patrick Mahomes? Oh, yeah. A lot of people say that. He became the most famous player. People are saying he is. He is. He's more famous than Patrick Mahomes. I mean, he's hosting game shows.

Patrick Mahomes is not. Well, again, the Venn diagram of who knows who Mahomes is, but not Kelsey. But a lot of people know Kelsey and don't really know Mahomes. Look, Travis Kemp... I mean, maybe Mahmonds doesn't want to host a game show. He's a quarterback. Travis Kelsey has, honestly, one of the most famous podcasts that just sold for $100 million. So it's like, he's dating the most famous pop star, arguably celebrity in the world.

Think about all the eras tours. You don't have to convince me again. He sold up shows in Slovenia. People know who he is. He's going to star in movies. The point be, here's my question. Is this the highest acceleration any celebrities ever had where he was like, I don't know what he was before B list and now he's like teetering toward A-plus? He's an A-lister as a celebrity.

I know, but like just a tier run of beat his brother in Super Bowl, started dating Taylor Swift, one back-to-back Super Bowls and now might win. And he dated her for like the entire Eros tour, ever almost. Which was the highest grossing tour in the history of music. And then now he might be the first person to get the three-peat. I'm like, I don't know. That's got a, it's kind of crazy. If you don't hang it up now, I mean, you've got to learn something from Brady not hanging up after he beat the Chiefs in 2021. Don't go a year too long. But he also, sneakily, he could have a huge game in this game. Like he's well suited even in his old man game to actually crush him.

Yeah, he actually, I saw this from Shield. He leads the Chiefs in receiving this year against zone. It would not be a big surprise to see the Eagles play a lot of zone. Yeah, Nicopi Dine is out. The Eagles linebacker backups in Zach Ertz kind of shredded the Eagles last two weeks ago. 11 catches, 100 yards. The irony is it's the same guy. It's Warren Berks, who is the guy who replaced Drey Greenlaw when he toured his Achilles right now.

And Warren Berks is now on the Eagles, replacing the other than Kobe Dean. So it's just funny that, like, he's just getting dusted in Super Bowls. What's the meme where the guy's like, oh, no, here we go again. Yeah. The other person that we have not talked about enough, A.J. Brown. Yeah, we've been quiet about him. And I don't even think that's just in this two-week lead up to the Super Bowl. I just think in general for the Eagles.

It's such a luxury that the Eagles have What I think is a top five tight-end talent-wise I really believe it's Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase Citi-Land or receiver? Sorry, receiver. You say you've like Dallas-G-Gaudet, though. AJ Brown would be a top three tight-end. But Jefferson, Jamar, Chase, Cidiland, Tyree Kill, and A.J. Brown.

I believe those are the top five most talented about receivers. And like, the fact that he's an afterthought in the Eagles' offense and just a luxury that you can fall back on. Yeah. From an on field standpoint. They have him and DeVont-Smith. Right. The He has been winner at a wide receiver.

A receiver won the Heisman and is their number two receiver, like, eats it myself. I look this up. Jalen Hertz, 32nd out of 36 quarterbacks this year that were pass-a-rating qualified in attempts per game. Like, dude, he just barely needs to throw the ball. He's the Siriani of the offense. A.J. Brown got seven targets a game this year. That was 27th in the league. Like, he's seeing less action than Juan Jennings and Josh Downs. Well, that's why he's reading the book. He's like, damn, do I even matter? What do I do here? Seriously.

Like a lot of wide receivers are divas, but I actually understand AJ Brown's case a little bit. Like he is the third option in the red zone and he's a top five player in his position. Yeah. Pretty remarkable. That is. And he's also built to be a red zone target. You're right. He's kind of an afterthought.

It's actually, but yeah, in this game, I mean. And this year, it's like all about Sequin. Totally. It's like nothing about A.J. Brown. Everyone wants to talk about Seyquine. Well, because honestly, the only thing that's kept A. Jay Brown for being in the top tier with Jefferson and Chase, it's just his knee. Since his, like, second season in the league,

Do you remember? Yeah, it was the first or second. Where was the year we went on Instagram live on the painkillers in the hospital? I think it was after his first or second season. He had a... He didn't do that later tonight. What? The painkillers live on the program.

He went to surgery. It wasn't painkillers, anesthesia. He came out of surgery from anesthesia. Someone gave him his phone. And so he went on Instagram live, but like, you know those anesthesia videos of people take videos? The old version of David After Dentist. Yeah, it was that. But, you know, people take videos here.

He was doing it himself. And he just was like, they told me a week two, I should be done for the season. And then I was like, nah. And then he just had 1100 yards and like eight touchdowns and made the Pro Bowl. But like that knee has bothered him since. And it's like, honestly, the only one his knee flares up is the only difference between him and Jemar Chase and Jefferson and these guys. Like, he's unbelievable. DK, you're going to go live tonight, right?

That's a good. You're going to get liquored up? Yeah, totally. They said we couldn't make a fantasy podcast, but we did. Should I, should, do you remember this idea we came up with that we were going to do, we were trying to think of a better name than risers and fallers? And we came up with this. I found this on our notes the other day.

And I was like, we wanted to do uppers and downers and we're on different drugs for the show. I think someone, we talked to someone, one of us was getting our wisdom teeth removed and someone was like, wait, if you're on that, we could drink and someone can smoke. And I'm like, oh, like, there's something there. We are onto something.

Just pre-op. Pre-op show, post-op show. Right when you start getting the drip that comes down? Yeah. Well, check in in about five hours from Bourbon Street. Yeah, exactly. People like going in and doing whatever. So, like, if you do like, a colonoscopy or whatever,

they give you this. drug it's supposed to. I've had an endoscopy having EOE. It's like not quite. Yes, I've had an endoscopy. What is that like? They put you out. Oh, okay.

But they put a tube down your throat, look around, little biopsy. Yeah. And with colonoscopies, they don't put you under completely. Different two. Different end. They wash it. I hope it's actually different.

Even washing, it's not enough. I don't think they reuse them. You think it's just a one and done? No, I think they throw away. Well, how much is it costs? Click the camera on at the end of it and get rid of the tube. The kids throw away the camera. Well, maybe the apparatus, the tube.

apparatus, the tube that goes down. It's modular. But what's the difference? The camera's the camera. I don't know. God, I don't even watch. Do you think Vandals ever going to have us back on the stage? Anyway, what I was saying was...

It's something to think about, though. When you're going in for an endoscopy, ask for a new tube. Okay? Ask your doctor about getting a... Ask your doctor about getting a sick. This tube smells a little funny, Doc. Well, you're going to be too drunk to remember that, I think, is the point. Because the drugs they give you to put you under, it's not like you over.

It's not like you actually go under under. It's just like you're essentially really drunk. I remember my vision literally just tunneling out. I remember when I was complaining. My mom was like, oh, I'm so old that like, we're like, you know, nearing down. You know, I remember the first time I got cut out from a wedding because I didn't make the list. I was like, I guess that's how you know who your friends are. She said, please, you'll learn who your friends are when you learn who will drive you to your colonoscopy.

I was like, yeah, that's like my mom. That's like taking somebody to the airport time of 10. Yeah, it's true. Anyway, speak. Yeah, we're never coming. They're never going to have us back. Wait, what do you feel about that? That's what do you feel about taking your friends to the airport?

Dude, get an Uber. Shout out to. I still will drive. I take my wife to the airport and we take each other, no one else. I think so actually, I used to be a commotion about that, but then actually, shout it to an old copy editor at the ringer, Jacqueline Canner wrote a story in the New York Times actually about friendship and how driving your friends to the airport is actually like a great thing.

It's like, if you stop looking at it as I have to go and more like, I get to spend an hour in the car with my friend or whatever. You get to chat them up. It's like people don't forget when you drive in the airport. It's true. Depending on where you live, though, it really matters what time your flight is. If you're asking a friend to drive you during a rush hour living in Los Angeles, you shouldn't do that. Or if it's like super late, like, yeah.

If it's a 7 a.m. on a Tuesday, sure, do it. 7 a.m. Whatever. I'm saying in L.A., it's a quick drive. It's like 20 minutes there and 20 minutes back. That's actually understandable and you should probably do that. You can't ask somebody to do a 5 o'clock. It's at 4 a.m. in San Diego.

5 p.m. You're not doing rush hour. Anyway, Vic Fangio. So. You don't think he's getting enough. have buzz? Well, I was going to take it to the airport. Oh, okay.

We should take Sierraonta. No, so I, this is the other person that I kind of don't think we're talking about enough for the Super Bowl, is Vic Fangio, where I still, and again, maybe the dumbest thing I've done, which is really saying something is kind of predicting the Eagles will do something that they basically don't do. But I do keep wondering about this concept whether the Eagles throw a change up in this game. Because again, we're in this era of football kind of created by Vic Fangio, derogatory, where he's the one who ruined football and made it like.

Remember back in my day when Patrick Holmes did cool stuff? and threw bombs. And like, we don't see that anymore. 55 touchdowns or whatever. Yeah, that was cool. And then Vigangio's the one who's like, we're going to make it suck and just like lit on the defense, two safeties. Really what he did was instead of a front seven, he made it a front six, put an extra defender

to the pass, and that's why football wasn't fun for four years. And so I kind of think that there's a chance. I mean, you don't know what I was saying. Yeah. It was fine. It was all right and he made a PG-13. It's like movies used to be in theater and now they're at home on TV. Yeah.

It's not the same. It doesn't hit the same. And so I do. wonder if, again, instead of this like soft zone, I do kind of wonder about the philosophy of do you just play your thing, even make the Chiefs Dunk, Dink and Dunk when the Chiefs have become elite at Dink and Dink and Deng and D. They are the monster he created. Yes, 100%. Because the chiefs are the best team at Dinking and Dunkin. Like their, all their personnel is designed around Dinkin Dunking and Dunking, run after the catch, Xavier Worthy, hit the ball in space, run.

You're faster than the other guys across from you. And, you know, Mahomes was not very good throwing deep down the field. No, and the whole thing was like a fear, like, you know, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021. It was basically like, let's dare Mahomes to think and dunk. And 100%, like, they created this version of the Chiefs. And now the Chiefs are thrive in this environment. And it's like, do you really stick with this thing that you built?

Or it's like, it really is like we have to go back. And I do think we see man coverage, not in the red zone, but man coverage with like a single deep safety. And I just think it would be amazing if we come into the Super Bowl with daring Patrick Moombs to throw it deep, which honestly, We haven't seen that in years, and it makes sense. This would be like, if it works, you're a genius. If it doesn't work, what is wrong with you?

It reminds me of the, like, Malcolm Butler thing a couple years ago when they benched him right before the, I think it was the Super Bowl. It is tricky to abandoning your philosophy in the last game. Yeah. Yeah, after, I mean, they haven't lost a game pretty much since. They haven't lost a game. Yeah. They lost one game, and that was with Hurd-Smas. The one way, Jim was the 11th play of the game, yeah.

So, yeah, in terms of what would get you the most criticism the next day, changing up your entire team's philosophy to disrupt Patrick Mahomes, and he beat you anyway. But the flip side is the original Patriot Super Bowl with the Rams, what Bill Belichick did, and that was a huge upset at the time. And the way Belichick described it was they are a full-court team, and we're going to slow the game, and we're going to get out and run. But what he really played was Mike Martz's ego, as the Rams had coach,

wanted to prove the passing game work. So Belichick basically played this, like, radically lax run defense knowing that Mike Martz didn't want to run on the rundown. But Belichick's whole thing was always adapting and changing it every lot. The Fangio defense is not really like that. Well, so Bill Barnwell has a comedy espion where he made the point that when he, Fangio had his little sojourn as the Dolphins Defense Courtney last year, and that game was frozen, he did Blitzmore against the Chiefs.

So, like, we do have a history of Fangio. Oh, my voice cracked. Yeah. I heard that. If my voice cracks in this, then we've got to hit the Tom Brady over two and a half voice cracks on the Super Bowl prop. Yeah, I do feel like Tom Brady's probably going to have the world's most expensive honey in his tea before he announced it. So that throat will be little bit of it. Don't. We'll never get you funded back.

Moving on. So, yeah, I do think that Fangio is interesting. But the other person I keep wondering about is what fig Fangio's thinking. Because I keep wondering what are the coaches thinking about. What are the players thinking about? And they think about the stars, but it's like anything else. They think about who's the worst player in the other team and how to hunt that guy? And I keep thinking about Mike Caliando, the starting left guard for the chiefs in this game.

Frank Caliando Jr. Yeah. Just built like him. Low man wins. So I will say I did learn about Mike Caliando a little, but I was obsessed. Because again, who is this guy? Right. Hey, good job.

Learning about him. Thanks. Sorry, it just sounded funny. Is that a reference I missed? No, it just sounded funny. You were like, I learned about it. I learned about the Super Bowl guy. I, um, well, so he was, went to Western Michigan for six years.

Shouts out Corey Davis. And there's a lot of direct, the directional schools of, Antonio Brown went to one of the directional Michigan's Central Michigan? Central Michigan. Eastern Michigan. Central direction? Northern or Southern? Whoa, is central?

It's like Western, is Central County's a directional school? Yeah, sure. Antonio Brown? Somebody tell me where this guy. Central. Central. Wow. Look at that poll. Anyway, I don't know. He went to Western Michigan, Caliando. You're saying. So Caliando, he was going to be a doctor. And so in 2022, he was prepping. He was, he got a... Yeah, I was going to be a doctor. And then I decided to stop.

I would have gone D1 if coach didn't hate me. I was going to be doctor. I had a sick curveball. I was like, I was accurate. Yeah. I was nice. I was painting the corner when I was 11. Yeah, yeah. What got in your way with the being a doctor? Oh, you know, you know, you know. know, things. This and that. Yeah, yeah. Politics.

Yeah, they wouldn't let me in to the school, to the medical school. Yeah. You were embarrassing your professor. Also, I didn't, I didn't apply. Right. Well, I'm reading from the Kansas City Star, and he had a studio apartment, Mike Kelly under got a studio apartment in Boston before the 20-22 draft, his agent told him to get one to just train.

And while he was doing training for the draft, he did echo draft. He was interviewing with medical schools in case he didn't go anywhere. And he interviewed the Chicago College of Austin. osteopathic medicine and went through multiple hour interview processes, like, to tie the whole thing while he's also prepping for the draft. I think I would just tell teams I'm thinking about becoming a doctor. I feel like that up your value a couple points immediately. This is the second guard.

He left the chiefs. Justin Herbert was pre-med, you know. They had the other chiefs, the guard, the Tardiff, the Canadian guy who went. He was pre-med? He won the Super Bowl and then left to be a doctor during COVID. He's like, I have more important things to do. I actually would like to formally tell you guys that I'm thinking about becoming a doctor. right now. Yeah, all right. If this pod doesn't work out, I will fall back into being a doctor.

What kind of doc? He's going to be the one who puts the tubes down the throat. Yeah, he's going to clean the tubes. Ear nose throat goat. You can just like make big like ads. My license point is saying, E-N-T goat. Ear-nose throat goat. We're never going to invite it back here. Can I have a question? I have a question. Let's get serious. Let's get back this. I feel like it's not going to be. No, this is actually a serious question. But I feel like it's hard to you. taking me seriously. Really, though, I have a real question. Hey, Dr. Throka, what do you? I wish they have a real question, the less I think it's a real question. I wish Vic Fangio's here because I have a question for him. So Mike Calliando is playing left

guard, right? Because they move Tune. Well, left guard, correct, yeah. Yeah, right. They moved into guard, or because they moved Tune to tackle, correct? Yes. So he plays left guard. Jalen Carter, the defensive tackle on the Eagles is fantastic. He plays kind of on the opposite side. He's in front of the other guard on the chiefs, Trey Smith, who's very good. just move him over. It can flip. It's not that simple. It depends on like strength of the formation.

My real question is why isn't it that? Why isn't he just always, even if like whatever, they double them with Creed Humphrey and Caliando or whatever, sure. But like why isn't Jalen Carter always in front of Calliando? The short answer is they might do that, but the real answer, first of all, where guys align is different because it depends.

Like some guys like TGWatt are kind of like more predictable in where they line up and frankly. But you know where Caliando is going to be every time? Put them in front of it. Well, that's the thing. So what's really going to happen. than big ones. Basic.

You're going to the big ones. I think the real answer is that what you're going to do is they know that they're going to have to slide creed Humphrey to the left side each time. So it's less like, oh, you could put Jalen Carter and Calliando, but then they're just going to put Creed Humphrey that way every time. So you think it's actually better to have Jalen Carter one-on-one with Trey Smith than getting doubled with Calli And Humphrey. That's the thing. I think it's like the second, it's not, you're kind of like the first level and I think the game's going to be. It's more second level where they're going to be scheming like.

It's using the predictability that Caliando is probably not going to win any one-on-ones consistently to just scheme, okay, we know they have to slide help his way every time. And then just using that to advantage, so it's really going to expose like, okay, is Trey Smith? Yes, Trey Smith at right guard. Is he going to be able to do Jalen Carter one-on-one-a-lot? Because they will be able to get that much of it. Because Cree will always be helping. Yeah, so they're going to be able to. So that, honestly, I don't think he can.

And we'll see it. If he does, Trey Smith is going to be the highest big guard. He's a free agent after this game. Like, if Trace Smith blocks Jalen Carter in this game consistently, guess who's going to make like a 25 million years of guard? But also, we could be like, oh, my God, Jailen Carter destroyed him. So I think that's it. It's just there's a predictability that the Chiefs Offensive Line's going to have issues with. Yeah, there's going to be all eyes on Milton Williams to the Eagles defensive tackle pass rusher guy.

I mean, it doesn't play like all the snaps, but when he gets in there, he's probably going to be going up against Caliando. And there's a chance he kind of is a name that you hear a lot. There's a Jordan Davis who don't forget what a star he was at Georgia. Yeah. So there's a lot going on. Um, other, speaking of, though, of a bunch of these, like, more random guys like Caliando, I want to do the Cadarious Tony Memorial Award for this person could win a Super Bowl ring on Sunday. Yeah. Of just there are a couple players who are like, that guy's going to be like... Cadarius has two rings?

One ring. Does he have two rings? He's only one. Was he on the Chiefs last year? No. No. No. I hope he had one ring.

Right? When did the, when did the lateral happen? When did the, the lateral happen? That was last year. Last season. They got caught him, didn't they? He got cut him. Did they give him a ring?

2023 season. Oh, no, two-time Super Bowl champ. That's unbelievable. Do they give him a ring? He was inactive in the Super Bowl. If you're inactive. Because he was on the team. I think if you're inactive, you get it,

but if you're a practice squad, you don't. It's like there's a choice, I think. I think he won. That's crazy. Good for him. He deserves it. So speaking of two-time Super Bowl team. You know who else could be a two-time Super Bowl champion after this?

Carson Wentz. I forget that he's. He's on the Chiefs all the time. Carson Wentz. The fact that, like, this is a revenge game. I'm just saying, 100%. I don't want to put anything out in the world. Can you imagine if Patrick Mahomes gets hurt?

And Carson Wentz comes in and plays the Chief Eagles in the Super Bowl. In an all-time full-circle moment. Wow. That would be crazy. Where's Nick Foles? No. Is he anywhere around? Honestly, I think he's on radio.

Yeah, I think I see him. There he is. Plugging Nutragrine bars or something down there. I don't know. Is that a thing? Nutraign bars? It's kind of fun. Those are good.

The other person in this that I... Free blood for Nutragram. Yeah, yeah. You know what else? You know what else? You know what else? You know what else? I like it.

Well, I like the apple-flavored Nutragram bars. Oh, yeah. Apple-flavored Nutri-Bars? Like the apple filling. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's great. Why was that shocking to you?

Okay. It's like those apple pies that you get from McDonald's, but healthy. You know? I've actually never had one of those. But you know those McDonald's? You know what I'm talking about? You get the little mini half a lot. You wouldn't need them.

There's seed oils in them. They probably are. No, I don't know. You don't do seed oils now. I... I try to stay away from deep fried foods because of my eocinophilic asophagitis. Thank you so much. And fried foods are often in cheap oils like canola oils and peanut oils.

And I try to avoid those because they irritate me. Is that a good enough answer for you? I'm fine with it. I don't like seed oils. The other person who could win a Super Bowl, which I think we forgot about, is Kenny Pickett. You made a thing during the draft show. You were like, I think Kenny Pickett's going to win a Super Bowl, and I kind of want to go find the clip. I was right.

Kenny Pickett can win the Super Bowl. He's the backup quarterback for the Eagles. He's not even done with his rookie contract. Imagine if I told you before his rookie contract was up, he'll win a Super Bowl. Kenny Pickett will win a Super Bowl. Kenny Pickett. For a team in Pennsylvania. Do you think if I told you that, you would have said it's more likely that he's a backup on another team or the starting quarterback for the Steelers winning a Super Bowl?

If on draft day you... The backup. Really? Yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm not sure about that. Also... I mean, this is either going to be sound really good or really bad, but I'm pretty sure he was my third-ranked quarterback that year after Malik Willis and Desmond Ritter.

Well, you're directionally right, because none of them are pretty... I don't feel that bad about it. No. Because ultimately, Malik Willis might be the best. Well, Tatee Piggott might have a ring, so... My favorite stats... Rings. Just, yeah.

Of all the Kenny Pickett stats, it was like of every quarterback. He's ever thrown 500 passes in the NFL if you just sort by, I think it was like net yards per attempt. Kenny Pickett was like dead last. Kenny Pickett was just... Can he was pretty much Tim Tebow, where he was just terrible. But Tim Tebow had a huge hands. True. That's true. Kenny Pickett in the fourth quarter, though.

Glimmers of magic. I'll never forget that. It wasn't that long ago we were legitimately excited about Kenny Pickett because he went like 10 for 10 in the preseason. Yeah. Oh my God. That was the best week of the SPN ever. Was this everybody being like, look, he's got a lot of college experience.

Last year, he showed signs. Yeah, he's putting it all together. So, that didn't work out. Speaking of other people going to ring, we had Carlos put this together. And we, you know, during the season, we do a lot of two truths and a lie, during draft season, we do a lot of two truths and a lie.

And again, we do the NFL draft show. Also, if anyone listened to us for the first time here, we do the draft the whole year, so stick with us all season, free agency, trades, everything. But my favorite game, two tight ends and a lie. This one is going to be players on the Chiefs who might win three rings and a lie. This would be their third ring.

There are so many players on the Chiefs who might literally start the career drafted Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl. That's wild. It would be their whole career. Literally three rings by 24 years old. So Carlos is... It's being born into royalty. I know. Honestly.

So are you going to start with the guys who play more and kind of work your way down? I don't know. Carlos sent us this, and he just sent us four names. Three of them are aligned to get a third ring, and one of them he made up. Okay. So I'm going to read them. All of these guys have only been in the league. This is their fourth year in the third year in the league.

I don't know if it's just their third year. Some of them might be fourth. These are two-time Super Bowl winning champions. Yeah. Right. But they're not like tenure vets. They're like younger guys. Super Bowl champions.

Okay. Winning champions. Is that a thing? That's very like national football league of you. World winning champs? Super Bowl winning champions? Super Bowl winning champions. Super Bowl championships?

Super Bowl champions. So are Super Bowl? What are he winning for? We got there. Anyway. All right. Players on the Chiefs who have one or two Super Bowls already and alike. James Winchester.

God, that does sound vaguely familiar. Maybe it's just the rifle. I don't know if I'm just thinking of the rifle. Malik Herring. That's a red herring. Cameron Jones. Joshua Williams. We had to throw Jones in there.

We know Joshua Williams. He's a quarterback. We know Joshua Williams. We totally know Joshua Williams. He's a quarterback or cornerback? You know, maybe we don't know Joshua Williams? Let's all make sure we understand that we all know Joshua Williams. There's one thing that we know, and it's Joshua Williams.

I kind of blew that one. Who are the other guys? Cameron Jones. Cameroon. Malik Herring. James Winchester. James Winchester's real. I think James Winchester's real.

I think. I think herring is fake. Yeah, I think that's the red herring. Malik Herring is the lie. Nice. Well done. Although, I'm not going to lie. Carlos, did the red herring, is that why you did that?

I kind of need a refresher. He's like, oh, wow. James Winchester is the long snapper, and he already won three Super Bowls. Chiefs Longsnapper. So this would be his fourth Super Bowl is a longsnapper. How many long snappers do you think he could name? I've got to say, I'm pretty impressed with Longsnapper. snappers. They're like 99.9% of the time they are on the money. Yeah, yeah. It's a very,

it's a very, like, weird, stressful life. They're like a parachute. When they don't work, it, like, you pay attention. Right. Otherwise, good job. You only hear my, uh, right. My, uh, my grandmother's friend across the street's son was an NFL agent who only represented long snappers. It's a very niche. Out of principle, why? I don't know. You got to find a niche. They're like, hey, we got Matt Stafford for you. He's like, Long snapper guy. I don't know. Well, skill players aren't going to be like, I'm signing with the long snapper guy. You work your way up, you know, other linemen, other special teamers.

So can you name some of your other clients? Yeah, James Winchester. Mike Herring, Cam Jones, Joshua Williams. I actually think I could name more long snappers when I was 13 and played Madden, like four hours a day. I don't think I can name the Seahawks long snapper. Do longsnappers? I don't know any longs.

I've sacrificed knowing the names of long snappers. There's only so much room. to memorize names. Do you think you have a better chance if you only had one play in the NFL and it was to hit a wide open slant as a quarterback in a clean pocket? Like, throw it?

Correct, as the quarterback. Hit a wide open slant to A.J. Brown in a clean pocket or complete a long snap. 100% of long snap. Have you ever tried long snapping? I actually was the long snap in ice school. He was the long time. No, no, no, like moonline.

I was like the, your grandma's neighbor not represent. You were the fifth quarter long snapper? I was the James Winchester's backup. No, I was like the emergency longs. Yeah, like Tyler Warren. Emergency Lonserv. But first, most people haven't long, like, I've thrown a football thousands of times in my life for fun.

But it's actually really simple. I do not trust myself to throw them off. But the motion of long snapping. You think you could just hop in and long snap it? You gotta lead someone on a slant. Yeah. There's multiple skills there. Also, yeah, there's a lot going on there.

Yeah. But I'm saying like everything is, it's just like, you're in shotgun, hike, turn, slant hit. But you gotta remember that like... I know that's obviously hard. There's a... That's like a lot of things you just said. I'm like, call out the coverages, adjustment.

Adjust the offensive line. You see new quarterback come in, they can't even get the snap off. I know. I'm kind of like, this isn't a vacuum. Are you talking about in a game? Yeah. I think I would try the long snap. Don't forget the reason.

I don't feel confident about anything. I think I would go slant. There are rules to protect. I would fuck up the long snap 100%. No, but there are rules to protect. I don't know that's 100% I fuck up the slant. You're forgetting. How much can you lie?

No, yeah. What are we talking here? What are we talking here? Okay. Can I give me? Probably not that fast. What am I throwing seven yards? Correct.

I think I think I'll take the throwing. All right. All right, that's fair. Okay. Remember why the short quarterback struggle. The Eagles left guard is six foot seven inches tall, and the right guard is also six foot seven inches tall. Just in that, have you ever thrown a football over someone who is six foot seven?

You want to be the Eagles? Give me one them big ones. I got size, six three in cleats. In cleats. I don't think about that, that the guys are taller in cleats. Yeah. On cement. Not on grass.

ass yeah gosh you sink in but you're a little taller yeah i'm definitely six three on a football field all right find me there's a short left guard i'll go to work okay anyway it's got to be a few is this noah gray's third year in the league is he going to have three rings in three years or i think i think you know he's at least he's like 25 right but i think he was 20 21 yeah yeah we're talking about the backup tight ender back up tight ender back up tight round i like noah gray i think he'll actually be really this is his fourth year now i think if kelsey your tires. So we're thinking about three-time Super Bowl champion

Cameron Jones. Yeah. Anyway. It would be awesome. All right. We've done this for too much. Other people were not talking about enough. I wanted to shout at the referee. I'm going to get murdered for the long snap quarterback thing? I don't know. I might. No. I don't think so. I kind of, I hope people are on myself. You need to frame it as

you have respect for long snappers. You're not disrespecting quarterbacks. Exactly. But you're going to get murdered for saying that, yeah. Well, I just think long snapping under the bright lights, It's the first time in your life would be really hard. You have to throw it hard. Yeah. The motion is actually simpler than you think.

Well, I mean, it changes some people have different technique, but for the most part, it's kind of like just continuing the throwing motion. It's like backing up a truck. No, everything is different because you're like huddled, you're like doing it through your legs. You have to do like, yeah, no, it's like if you didn't like go with a football

and you threw it through your legs, that's actually like. You know you're backing up a trailer, you have to do everything different. Yeah, left is right, right. You turn the wheel the way you hold onto the bottom so you hold, turn the wheel that way. I also think, like, the risk reward, you screw up a long snap.

No, you're done. You're done. You're done. Like, the whole possession is ruined, obviously. Right, right, right. And you might lose the game. It's probably the game losing thing. Yeah, I get tipped at the line of scrimandage.

That's why it's so impressive when that kick the holder the holder the other day. Oh, on a field goal. Oh, in the snow game? Yeah. That was unbelievable. The same person is snapping for puns and field goals, right? What? Is the same person snapping the ball for field?

Yeah, right. What's harder? Pond? Um, good question. punts in general, but the longer field goals probably have pressure because you need it to be like a good. I was thinking punt in my head. Punting, you have to snap it further. Way further.

Yeah. So that sounds harder. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. We should ask him. Maybe we do a long snapper. Only answer if you're a long snapper.

Yeah. Parentheses. It would actually be really funny if we just pulled every NFL athlete here and it's like, what's harder, hitting a slant or long snap. It's actually a good idea. Write that down. Okay. All right. The other person we haven't talked about enough for this is Ron Torbert, who is the

referee for this game. Ron Torbert is the worst ref in the NFL. And I don't know how he got the Super Bowl. Is it like a lottery? Is it kind of a... No, there's like a merit system. And... So that doesn't make sense. What's up, Mina? Oh, we're doing a show. Yeah, we're doing. It's not live, though. No. No. Yeah. Yeah, sure. We thought we can get Mina, Mike. We could ask Mina the question. Yeah, we're going to ask me to the question. Yeah, what are the odds? We'll see if we can get you a mic. You know, we have a question.

So, yeah, wait, oh, here, I'll just. Is the question how much better my fantasy team was than Danny's this year? Well, specify it's not me. Hello. Hello. Hi. Oh, Danny Kelly, yeah. I think I finished ahead of you.

Did you? Yeah. You know I don't keep track of this thing. I know. You barely know how to use the app still. It's a terrible app. What app? We won't name names.

We use an app that's honestly the worst fantasy app. Oh, yeah. No, I agree. It's not. You know what we like. It's so infuriating that we still use it. It's so hard to use. It was made 20 years ago.

Craig, ask her a question that you were thinking. Okay, in a vacuum, what do you think is easier if you're dropped into the NFL field for one play? To complete a slant in a clean pocket and the guy's wide open or to officially execute a long snap in a crucial moment of a game. You've never long snap before. The slant. Oh, my God. Thank you. I've never longs stamping is really difficult.

Thank you. I know it seems like throwing a pass to be harder in the NFL game, but we all have, like, like, It's a slant. People have thrown football. Clean pocket. That's just pitch and catch, yeah. Slant requires like a lot of. That's just pitch and catch.

I'm throwing AJ Brown. That's easy. A long stabb. That's a whole thing. I feel vindicated. Should we do the four, the players in a lie? Should we give you to that? Okay, so, you know, there are, I'm going to read you four names.

Like a shirt. Oh, thank you. My dad got it for me. Surreal. That feels right. My, so we were going to Super Bowl Media night, and my dad is on the phone with me, and I was about to walk out the door.

He says, by the way, you look terrible and green. And I'm like, wearing green. I'm like, oh. Like, well, we work at the ringer. So it was late, yeah, yeah, he did. You know how your celebrity doppelganger is to me, and I, and it's just fresh in my mind because he was in the baggage claim while I was waiting from the dude from workaholics. Do you ever get that?

Oh, Adam Deveen. Yeah, you have, like, a similar vibe to him. Oh, I can definitely see that. You know who else was in my baggage claim? I think I texted you this, Miles, Micah Parsons, and nobody recognized him. He was just, football players are just. He's a podcaster. He is a podcaster.

Poble players are just like not that famous. Neither are broadcasters. There's all these Eagles fans walking around. I'm like, that's Micah Parsons. Do you guys not realize that? Just wait for his luggage. They all have helmets on. No one recognizes anybody.

Yeah. I recognize him. Okay, read her the list. Well, actually, I think funnier would be, can we read you? We're going to do a Tom Brady drinking game. And can you like, so we're going to. We got a mic.

Oh, wow. We have a mic. Incredible. Things he's going to say? Yes. I got to run right after this. Is it? What is it?

I know, I got a run. I got a car. It's okay. Basically, things, we're going to drink every time Tom Brady says, KB. Okay. Red area. Red area. Game within the game.

Oh, that one. Good luck. And I think the one we got to go with is I think you have to finish your drink if he circle something that he shouldn't circle. Like, he circled the score in one of the games. That's the thing he does. He's a lot of the game. We also need to add if he says there is no love loss between these two teams. Yeah, no love loss.

The lock of the century. And then if he says pressure. Pressure. Pressure. Pressure. What about he's a stud? What a stud. Oh, that's on your list.

That's on the list. Oh, no, okay. But it calls the teams clubs. I like that. I was like, should I start doing that? It sounds sophisticated. They're a great club. It's like how people around the NFL say national football league all the time.

He's just talking about that, yeah. Thank you. I'm trying to think of something else that Brady might say. Yeah, give us one more. This is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Just like an awkward, he sits there.

they're next to KB awkwardly while KB is talking when they like go from commercial or whatever. You know what you would get chmacked if you're drunk every time they reference Tom Brady's Super Bowl experience in this game. How many times do you think KB is going to be like, this reminds me of, you know, Super Bowl 49? By the way, I met Malcolm Butler. Oh, yeah? He was not cool about it at all. Really? No, no, he was.

He was very nice. But I was like, you know you're responsible for the single biggest, most painful of sports experience of my last? And he's like, ha. I was like, what? He, like, sucks for you. I was like, wow. Cry about it. And I'm like, it was literally the worst day of my life.

He's like, it's the reason why I'm here. And I was like, oh, my God. Rub it in. Yeah, like, literally plunging the knife. He didn't even say sorry. You should have been like, where you didn't get to play in the next Super Bowl. I'm not mean.

Oh, he was being mean to you. She took the high road. I took the high road. And I was like, if you go to Seattle, he's like, probably not. All right. Because I can't believe he was like, I can't believe you guys didn't run the ball.

He's like, there's no way I would have been able to stop her. We never heard that. Yeah, we never heard that. Thanks, dude. All right. Anything you want to plug? I mean, I'm interviewing Miles Garrett today. You guys can check that out.

Nice. He didn't say no to the commanders. I thought that was interesting. Nice. There we go. For Miles Garrett. No, just my continued dominance over Danny in our fantasy league. That one.

That I don't know how to use. Bye, guys. Thank you, Mina. Thanks, Mina. Nate Tice has pointed this out. who are buddy Nate. And Nate has a complicated relationship to Ron Torbert.

But basically, there are things obviously, like, refs get calls wrong. Ron Torbert struggles with things that you don't think about that refs have to do. It's kind of like, you know when NFL teams run a motion and the guy runs right by the shotgun snap and the ball doesn't hit the guy running,

like ever? And then it happens one time, and you're like, you're like, oh, you have to practice a lot to never have the ball hit the guy. There's a lot you don't think about to get, like, the seamlessness. There's a lot you don't think about the refs and, like,

clock. Like, when do you reset the play clock if he goes out of bounds versus not, versus, like, out of a TV timeout, when is it 25 seconds, when it's at 40? Like, a lot of things you don't think about, but, like, it really matters if you, like, the team thinks it, like, if the officer's- I'm sure that won't come up in this game at all. And that's like, this stuff happens with- None of this stuff will matter. Torbert's crew of, like, what's a dead ball, what's a live ball? Like, there are, like, it's kind of like a ref crew where all, like, the shotgun stamps are hitting the player in motion. And you're like, they don't have these, like, basic things down. It's supposed to be done in April. So, for example,

once something Bengals fans will remember, he was the ref in the Chiefs Bengals championship game when the Bengals, like, late in the game ran the play. And I think it was like, I forget the exact third and four. It was fourth and four. It was like a third and nine. And they ran a play, and the chiefs didn't get it. So it was like fourth and four. And then the refs come in and Ron Torbert Huddles. It was like, actually, we blew the whistle. That play didn't happen. And everyone's like, Zach Taylor's like losing his mind. He's like, We didn't hear the whistle. No, he's like, yeah, well, no one heard the whistle, but we did call it dead.

It's like, it's really loud. It's a football stadium. This one was the origin of people hating the chiefs and the refs was because they just gave the chiefs a second chance. And then he threw it up and got defensive holding. And it was like a whole mess. All that's to say, there are more weird ref things with Ron Torbert than any other refs I've ever seen. And you want to prepare people at home to kind of recognize Torbert's poor officiant. There might be things you haven't seen from other games, kind of like things that you see once a season.

I don't think this was his crew, but like, when the Washington Saints game happened and they just gave the Saints an extra play at the end of the game, like for no reason they were wrong. And the NFL admitted it was a mistake. Stuff like that happens like three times a season. He hasn't, I don't think he's done a game with them for two years for the Chiefs because people were like. I hope that Nick Bolton does the thing that Frankie Lubu was trying to do against the push. And I hope Ron Torbord has to award the Eagles seven points. That's my goal. Hopably unfair act.

The other person we haven't talked about enough is just Kendrick Lamar. You're obsessed with this Kendrick Lamar. I'm obsessed with the Kendrick halftime. I think it's epic. It's unbelievable. We had a whole prop conversation a couple days ago about what you think is going to be the first and last song played. But now you've done more research and you have an updated bet. There's odds on, there are betting odds on the first song that he opens with.

And I have takes. The favorite is humble. If it says takes. I know. But the favorite's humble. And there's no point in betting humble at minus. 150. You know, that's bad odds. Sure. But if you look past the other

favorites, not like us. He's not starting with not like us. He's going to end with not like us. Yeah. Yeah. You can't be like, hey, minor, and then you have 10 minutes left to the halftime. Like, you can't do that. So... I kind of see it coming in the middle. Whatever it is, if you look, like, I think a lot of the times the opening song has to be like a really good song with a big

opening, but it's like 40 to 60 seconds you cut to another song. Because the overrun on songs he does is like 10 and 13 minutes. So you cut. And if you Look, none of the songs make sense. They're from like Mr. Moral, the Big Steppers, and they're from the new album like GNX, which I love, there's a good album.

He's not opening the Super Bowl with some song he released three months ago that isn't like the famous ones. Totally. So you have, the songs that have, he has, that are very iconic, Kenji McLemar, have good opening 45 seconds. Backseat freestyle is 33 to 1 and would be an incredible opening, perfect 45 seconds.

Mad City, which is like an iconic opening 45 seconds, is 40 to 1 from the opening with Mad City. You guys don't give a shit about this, do you? I don't have anything to bring to the table. Okay. But I'll probably just toss some money on whatever you're saying, to be honest. You should bet three things. Backseat freestyle is 33 to one.

Mad City's 40 to one. And the other one is... I'm going to listen to these songs. All right. I think all right. He's got to do all right. Have you considered that sometimes... They don't always come out immediately with a banger

because sometimes they'll do something interesting like Beyonce at the Netflix show. Right, right. Where he'll be, like, walking out and kind of do a quieter song as he walks. out or something and then when he gets to the stage, then it's the big one. He's not going to come down like Lady Gaga on his face. This is my other prediction. You know what I mean? He could do 60 seconds of a different song as he's walking out or in like a backstage setting or something like that.

Coming down from the room. On that note, though. Maybe, yeah. All right. I think All right is his biggest song. I mean, not like us obviously now, but All Right is like, you know, that's like the protest song. It's a huge song for him. The music video for All Right, he's floating.

He, like, floats down the sidewalk. I think he will float during that song, and he could use that to enter, like, floating with all right singing the first verse for it. I don't know if Kendrick's vibe is to, like, do stunt work like that. I think he's too kind of, I think he's like, I'm going to stay on the stage and rap and be me. I don't need to be on wires, you know?

You're not going to do the meme of the weekend being lost, and it's like me looking for my table in the cheesecake factory. Yeah. You can't set yourself up for online ridicule like that. If he's just on the stage rapping, it's like he'll win. Low risk. I don't think he's the one worried about online ridicule. Oh, I know.

Someone emailed in. I just don't know if I see him like, I don't know. The song comes on and he floats off the ground and he's like rapping while floating. I just can't see that. Speaking of online ridicule, James emailed in. Okay. Jimmy. Jimmy told me that.

James. Jim? James. Do you an email here, Jim? Jim emailed in to say, Drake, because where is Drake going to be during the Super Bowl? Drake is touring in Australia. Literally as far away. He went to the other side of the earth.

What's the furthest landmass? He'll be asleep during the Super Bowl. No, no, it's the op. I think he's going to be, sorry, it's the up. It's going to be like 11 in the morning. And he's going to, like, have done a concert. It's like on a Monday there. I'm going to look like 8 p.m. CT in Australia.

He's going to be in the future. Yeah, it's going to be like sun. 1 p.m. Thursday? Is that true? Yeah, it'll be one. I don't know exactly what time zone is in Australia. But it'll be Monday afternoon in Australia. Right.

So. I think. I think it's incredible that he ran to the other side of the world. Probably smart, though. I mean, I'm guessing this was planned a long time ago, but yeah. It's convenient. He's in Australia. Exactly.

Like that literally the furthest way you can be. How weird. Oh, my God. Okay. We had to do some other emails before you get out of here. I think you want to talk about with the game? Who do you guys think is going to win? Score.

I picked the Chiefs. Because of the Michael Jordan guy. Right. Yeah. I went back and looked at my predictions the last two years, and it was literally just, I listened to a bunch of stuff, I read a bunch of stuff, I talked to a bunch of people about the matchups, and ultimately I looked at the rosters, and the Chiefs have Patrick Mahomes. And that was why I picked those teams, that team. And it's worked two times in a row. I'm going to go with the Chiefs, but Mahomes, sure, but James Winchester has been playing well. Dude, unbelievable.

Imagine he's going to have a big game. Yeah, him and Cam Jones getting their third ring. think is going to be a motivator for the rest of the team. They really want those guys to get those ranks. Hopefully he doesn't flub a snap. I mean, if James Winchester gets his fourth ring, he's going to be ahead of Eli Manning in the queue for the Hall of Fame. If James Winchester, what did you say flubs?

I just thought about flips a grunt. That could be bad. Flubes a grunt. If James Winchester flips a grunt. Could be problematic. Then they might have to get me out there to snap, which I couldn't do. I got to say, I feel vindicated. Okay.

Because Mina just came in. Yeah. Yeah. Hit the slant. Now I think I can hit a slant again. Yeah, you could probably hit a slant, I guess. So, all right, so speaking of other bets, though, we talked about whether Travis Kelsey is over under this game for speed is 14 and a half miles an hour. 15 and a half, which led to us talking about, could we run 50, how fast is running 50 miles an hour?

What does that look like? It's like a speed zone around a school, but like, can you run that? So a hero named Eric. Eric emailed in. Let me start by saying, I am a sedentary, 21-year-old man who is admittedly slightly overweight according to BMI and I'm out of shape. Aren't we all? Hero, at the point of the show, when you guys started talking about whether we could run 50 miles an hour, I promptly put down my lunch, went to my apartment complex's, quote, fitness center.

He went downstairs, see what I could hear on the treadmill. I was extremely confident I could get to 15. Unfortunately, the treadmill would not allow me to go faster than 12 miles an hour. Most treadmills don't allow you to go past 12. But he says, for, like, good reason. But Eric says, at 12 miles an hour, I was able to run in jeans fairly easily, and I was not out of full sprint yet, so I am still shakily confident

I could hit 50. I think it's doable. I believe roughly, running 15 miles an hour is like a 5-second 40-yard dash. Oh, someone said it's the math. A lot of people thought it was weird. We couldn't do the math on that in our heads. I was concerned. I'll pull it.

I mean, we did, didn't we? We don't even know Roman numerals. You can't do math on here. Math in Latin? Get out of here. It's not math, really. It is. What is it, if not math?

It's literally you have to add the numbers. They're numbers. If you run a five second, 40, that's running 16 miles an hour. 16? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Wait, sorry. Someone put that in.

It's basically, it's, if you, someone had that too. I think I can do it. Well, I don't know if I can do it now, but I could do it at one point. It's close. Yeah. If you run a 15 mile per hour, I'm going to get the exact numbers wrong. I don't think I could do it long enough to get to do the 40. I could probably do it for a couple seconds.

Right. But you're at, if you run like a 16 miles. I could reach that for like a second. Yeah, that's all we're asking about. Exactly. It's top speed. Yeah. Okay, glad we settled that. So other ones, this is from anonymous. Anonymous. On how advertising works. We were talking about Super Bowl commercials. And they want it, out of an abundance of caution, I'd like to be kept anonymous for this. I have worked in media and advertising analytics, including maintaining the software that schedules

commercials for a major media company. I figured this is my chance to write in. Commercials are generally scheduled for the Super Bowl weeks in advance, and Super Bowl ones can be months in advance. And one thing that complicates it is that sometimes companies up to the last minute are trying to move ads around. I experienced this one time when my favorite team happened to be playing in the Super Bowl. And I was watching at a friend's house and I checked my phone and there's a panic that during the middle of the Super Bowl, the tracking system to determine which ad should run when had crashed. And so he spent the Super Bowl, the entire second quarter on the call with his CEO and executives trying to download the corporate VP.

to his friend's computer to get the software in his friend's basement to confirm whether the system worked or not. Wow. That makes me scared about humanity. And having to download a VPN at some dude's apartment in a basement to save a Super Bowl broadcast is quite scary. It looks like all the memes that are like the entire world just hinges on Microsoft Excel having some bad update. Right. Like, you know, the economy would crash. What would happen if it did crash?

Commercials just wouldn't run? Or they'd run out of order. I don't know. Not sure. I don't know. Advertising works still. What do you guys think is, how do you think they determine how to price out the order of commercials? Do you think it just gradually goes down?

No, I bet you're surrounding the halftime show, it's probably big. I think the most expensive ones. In and out of the halftime show is huge. Probably the first commercial break is probably massive. Yeah. And then in and out of the halftime show, it's like, like, starts pricing. You can also just tell. By the end of the game, there starts to be reruns in commercials.

They have the same commercials several times. The rule is wild. I think one of the biggest ones is like between the third and fourth quarter is a huge one, I believe. Yeah. All right. That's interesting. Other ones. You could probably just tell by how famous this actors are in the commercial, which are the most important.

Right, right, right. But like sometime in the middle of the third quarter is probably. Should we ask Vandal how commercials work? Sure. You could probably ask them. The other one, so we got an email from Andrew. Andy. So we were talking about how the Trader Joe split from all the,

And that was like two German brothers who like split and they had a rivalry. And Craig was like, well, Trader Joe won, right? So Andrew emailed in. They call them Trader Joe? No, like Trader Joe. No, but they probably call them Trader Joe. Damn, that's good. Yeah, that is good.

Trader Joe is a national brand, right? Well. Or is it technically not? So Aldi Trader Joe has 608 stores in America, 600 basically. Aldi has 2,400. Wow. Really? I've literally never heard. Well, you guys are West Coast.

So Andrew writes, Allie is ubiquitous in the middle of the country, and they're everywhere. Trader Joe's is more boutique, especially outside of California. We never go outside of California. But there are literally, yeah, there's eight, yeah, there's a lot more. All right, I stand correct. Eight times more. Aldi. No, that's not true.

Are there any here in New Orleans? Aldi? I don't know. I haven't exactly been shopping. What's the closest Aldi's? Hurry. That can be our trivia question. Yeah, there we go.

Close as Aldi. Also, I said it says eight times more I got that wrong, but it's a lot. Yo, there actually are Aldi's in Louisiana not far from this. Oh, boy. Van, have you ever heard of Aldi, the grocery store? No. Oh, wow. Yeah, damn.

There we go. That's crazy. He said no for the record. All right, Van Laidens here. Oh. Oh. There's some stuff that they have here, they don't have. He's in, he's from Baton Rouge.

They might not be there, but they're here in New Orleans. Got it. This is fun. I like just having people walk on by. You should have they come up? Oh, Mike's gone. Oh, Mike's gone. Okay.

Okay. I'm trying to be over other emails here. Do we want to finalize the Tom Brady game? Yeah. We should also, honestly, we should just come out with like a bingo card. Yeah, we'll come out of the card. The last thing we have to do before we thank a couple people in rap is we have to, D.K. I think what we do with the raw, so reminded everyone, we're going to fly out on Saturday. We're doing a live. We're going to do a show on Sunday after the Super Bowl. We're going to put the house, going to be on YouTube and everything. And you guys can watch, obviously, the podcast.

And on the flight, D.K. is going to sit, middle seat, raw dog. He doesn't get to watch anything. He uses phone, text type, alone with his own thoughts for four hours. Can't sleep. I do think, though, Craig, people have emailed in. We should give him a notepad every 30 minutes, and he just should write down what he's been thinking about so that we then can actually, because otherwise he's going to recount and be like,

I don't know. It'd be fun to give you, like, you only get five words an hour. And see what you write down. Yeah. And I think, and then we'll go back and we'll be like, what. Every hour, you get five words. Five words per hour. Yeah, well, she is...

What if I come up with really good ideas and then I lose them? That's why you're writing him down. I think you should allow me to at least write down good ideas. Fine. Well, I mean, every 30 minutes, you have to hold on to the idea. I can't like write down some stupid thing. Let's start playing tic-tac-tow or something by yourself. I know, yeah.

It's not a slippery slope. You can watch while right now. That's where people say when it's a slippery slope. I know. I'm telling you, it's not a slippery slope. Counterpoint. It's not. It's like the elevator and severed where we're like, we can just, we have to

monitor if he gets any like messages across saying it's like severed severance i said severed yeah i don't know maybe not um we'll we'll see five 10 words i'm gonna have some incredible ideas i'm gonna be locked and we'll forget about them i'm gonna be locked in god this is gonna suck yeah no you're gonna have a terrible time we're gonna put that on instagram and ticot and everything so watch up for that okay kinkade kinkate oh freaking mark andrews Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Carlis for producing this.

Thank you to everyone at Fandul. This has been so much fun doing the set. They're definitely never going to have us back. So it was really cool doing our first and last show on this set. This is trying to pressure them into having us back by saying it several times. I said Tom Brady's throat will be lubricated. Yeah, that was what I knew we were done. We said muscles are lubricated.

We talked about eocinophilic asophagitis. We started colonoscubes for not a small amount of time. We talked about mixing up endoscopy. People are not having us back. People should be getting colonelophiles. No, you should. It's important. I would love to know if they're the same tubes, the endoscopy tubes versus the colonoscopy tubes. They're definitely not, but I wonder if they reuse the cameras.

They have to. You don't think it's the same tube? No. Okay. I don't know. It's different equipment. Different hardware. Different doctors.

Different doctors. Different doctors, yeah. Probably. Probably. Different orifices. Certainly. Thanks, D.K. Orifices.

Yeah. All right. That's how we know we got to do. Thank you, Susan. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Carlis. Thank you, Mauna. Thank you, Alldy.

Thank you, Aldi, Trader Joe. Thank you also. Shout out to AJ, who brought us this crazy New Orleans cake. A king cake. The king cake. We got a king cake here. A cinnamon king cake. I'm not going to lie, we're ignorant.

We didn't know about this. We all didn't know about this, like, incredible shout out to AJ. And shout out to the Dongfwang Bakery, which is like legendary. And I'm not going to get this fendal set messy. But this like, look at this is unbelievable. And so I didn't know, because like, there's a baby. And I didn't realize that the New Orleans Palisette. The mannequin's logo is like, you know, the big scary mascot with the baby?

I didn't realize that the baby is like a thing, and in these cakes they, like, hide a baby in the cake. I had no idea. What is the origin? What's the backstory with that? It's a cake associated with Epiphany, Celebration of the 12th Night after Christmas. That's crazy. I don't know. Is that the baby Jesus in there?

Oh, it's baby. That makes sense if it's baby Jesus. But why is he in a cake? It's his manger. His what? His manger is the cage. What's a manger? I don't know what's a manger.

I just didn't grow up in a Christian household. You didn't learn the manger stuff. I don't know. I'll say it. You say major stuff or majors? That's where the baby Jesus was placed in a manger. It's a manger. I think it's like where you feed animals or something? I don't know.

It is a manger or trough. Yeah. It's where they placed baby Jesus to sleep. They put him in a trough? Yeah. Well, he was in a barn. Yeah. I guess that's what You had, you use what you have. What we're doing here? Yeah.

He wasn't in a Kaiser Permanente. Wasn't an Airbnb. He wasn't at Cedar Sinai. All right. Well, yeah, thank you to the cake. Thank you to baby Jesus. Thank you, baby, baby, thank you,

nine pounds, eight pounds, doesn't know anything. Seven out. Thank you, Lauren. Thank you, Sean Mendes. Oh, you've Googled him. You didn't know who he was.

I'm so proud of that. That's so random. You didn't know he was. What's your favorite, Sean Mendes? God, who could choose, you know? There's a couple that I'm thinking of. Okay. That's off the top of my head. Yeah. Hold on. Rattle him off. There's nothing holding me back. I got to be honest. I don't know how many Sam Mendez's, I can name. Mostly I knew that we, that was the original. Oh, he's got that must. I was cheating. Sean Mendez. You guys aren't big Sean Mendez fans? So he was, so what's the time on? So he was with Sabrina Carpenter. No, he's with Sabrina Carpenter.

Then Camilla Caballo. Oh, really? Okay. And then that's what the song is in our album. It's about him, right? Where it's like you'll just have to taste me when he's kissing you? Taste, yes. But it's about Sean Mendez, right?

I believe so, yes. Not about Barry Keogun. No. Keogun? Because he didn't cheat on her, right? Barry Keene. They just broke up. I mean, I have no idea.

Let's figure it out. Let's find out. I also heard from somebody who was Irish and it's actually, you would say Kyoen. Kiyon. Kiyon. Not Keogun. Yeah. Keogne.

That makes sense. That doesn't mean to pronounce it. But nobody says that. It's like Chavon. Yeah. Actually, that's a good count. When you spell it out English phonetically, it looks, it's totally different. Isn't like Ashley spelled like Engley?

Well, yeah, the other Irish one, remember that, like, split the G. That's the thing. Split the G. Remember that like third grade girl's, do you remember the third year girl's mom was a listener? And like she was this third year girl in a league with like 11 boys who were bullying her out of playing in the fantasy league? And her mom doubled down and we, like, helped her team. And then she won't, her name was IFA. Oh, right.

Yeah. Which is a beautiful Irish name. Right. Sean Mendes is a hilarious pick out of you. I don't know why. I didn't. You know what's funny is what if he can raw dog the flight or just listen to Sean Mendes. He probably wouldn't even do it.

I think I want to raw dog it. No, I'll give it a try. If that's really my choice. No, I don't. You have to listen to Sean Mendes his first album. And that's all you get. And then he has to give a vibe. Like, what's the vibe?

I've heard his music, but I'm trying to, like, place it. Pop. I don't know. He's like Charlie Puth or something, kind of. Who? You know what I mean? Charlie Poof? Yeah, Puth, Pth.

Oh. The See You Again guy from the Fastly series song. You know, he's just poppy. Yeah. Nick Jonas, you know? Totally. Totally. Yeah, yeah.

No, I just naming white guys. Any of the Jonas is, really. Well, Kevin's solo career. Oh, yeah, the fourth Jonas brother. No, that's the third. Kevin is in the band. Right. The bonus, they have a different vibe?

He's just kind of older, kind of living in a normal life. More sophisticated. They still perform, but I actually think he's probably the happiest because he's just like chilling with his family. I don't really get their deal. What do you mean? Well, so like, what was it? So he broke up a Sophie Turner.

They got divorced, Sophie Turner. That's not Kevin. That's Joe. I can't keep track. Kevin has been married, I believe, to a not a famous person for a long time. Gotcha. Joe was with Sophie Turner. Nick is with Priyanka.

Chopra. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Craig, you actually know you got the family trees down. Yeah. I know. I saw Nick Jonas in a bookstore once. In L.A. What was he? What was he reading? He was a hell of a story. He was with Priyanka and a security guard.

Wow. Yeah. How big was the guard? Big, big guy. Big enough that you didn't go talk to him. No, I tried to tackle Nick Jonas. It didn't. Did you think you could throw a slant over? That went after him. Celebrities person. There's two people in the world. Talk to celebrities if they see them and I am morally opposed to talking to celebrities in person. Chapel Rohn would love me because I would not bother them. What do we think, Huyfaces? Give him one guess.

That progressive commercial with like the L.L. Cool J. Is that Vince Vaughn over there? Dude, that's my dad to a T, like the L.O. Cool Jad where it's like, oh, don't say anything. And he's like, hey, take a picture. He's like, that's my dad. Hifitz is going to go up to any celebrity and say, hey, nice to see you again. Yeah. I only did that to Jerry Jones.

If Vince Vaughn was at dinner or a few tables away from us, would you go say something to him? Well, no. Well, he's at dinner with. I don't know. Brandos. that you don't know? No. Dinner is different.

You can't like, you don't interrupt someone at dinner. Okay. He's walking down the radio road. Radio road is a little different because it's kind of the point. Dinner is like, you don't interrupt dinner with anyone. All right, whatever. Okay, so at the mall. You're walking down the street in L.A.

Vince Vaughn. If I had something that I thought was different than other people would say, maybe. I'm good. Half his is 100% talking to him. Maybe he's tall. I got, like, I was the weather up there, you know? It's like, he's tall. He's like waiting to love that.

He could throw a slant. He could make it rain out. He'll put it wherever he want. I was all state. He's all state. Hot route. Goodbye, everyone. I don't know what that means.

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