The Ringer NFL Show - The Sleeper Broncos, Marquise Brown Regret, COVID-19 Adjustments, and Week 9 Bold Predictions

Episode Date: November 6, 2020

We discuss some potential preventative measures to take in light of the overwhelming number of COVID-19-affected games this week before we look back on our Week 8 predictions and offer up our gut calls and bold predictions for Week 9. Then we build our million-dollar daily fantasy lineup, and finish the show with a beer pong–themed edition of Fantasy Court. COVID-19 Update (00:34) Jerry Jeudy, Broncos (19:10) Noah Fant, Broncos (22:10) JuJu-Smith Schuster, Steelers (24:15) Marquise Brown, Ravens (25:30) Jonathan Taylor, Colts (28:10) Jordan Howard, Dolphins (29:30) Will Fuller, Texans (32:50) Jamison Crowder, Jets (35:00) Mike Gesicki, Dolphins (36:35) Matthew Stafford, Lions (40:30) Million-Dollar Lineup (45:30) Fantasy Court (00:00) Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On today's episode of the Ringar Fantasy Football Show, we discuss what to do with a third of NFL teams dealing with coronavirus because even your fantasy escapism hobby just leads you back to reality. We also talk about Jerry Judy's impending blowup game. We try to kick our Marquis Brown habit and we give a ruling on proper beer pong etiquette. Stick around. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. I am Danny Hyfitz here with Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck. What a week. All right.

There's a lot going on, but we actually have to jump right into the NFL, because there's actually a lot going on in the NFL, too, because while you've been paying attention to other things, a third of the NFL is dealing with coronavirus or coronavirus-related issues. Unbelievable. Maybe more than that. Isn't it like nine of 14 games could be potentially altered? Yeah, whether it's a team has a staff member or half of a starting team

in either with positive tests or in quarantine, this is easily like the biggest week for positive tests that the NFL's had going into a weekend. And I mean, look, that's part of the country. That's part of the reality right now. Like on Wednesday, the country hit 100,000 new cases. That's the highest total so far. So, I mean, daily cases are peaking and the NFL is part of America. So it's not necessarily an anomaly.

And it's also might, I mean, the first half of the season went kind of smooth. And this might just be reality going forward. We have no idea. But this weekend is absolutely nuts. and we'll go through all the games that are being affected and stuff. But you guys want me to like summarize it because it's actually nuts

how much is actually going on right now. Yeah, I kind of think you should just blow through like basically the information and then we can kind of talk about what that means for people's fantasy teams and what you can try to do to like salvage your weekend. All right. Let's run through this.

So we're recording this on Thursday afternoon. That is before the, I mean, who knows what else will happen by, you know, Thursday night. But the Niners Packers game is scheduled for tonight, which is nuts because in addition to all the other Niners injuries, they had a positive test for receiver Kendrick-Borne. False positive, we don't know. It seems like a false-fals positive.

We don't know. But they're in, they had to quarantine three other players in addition to him. They're not playing. The Packers had, obviously, Jamal Williams is quarantined and A.G. Dillon tested positive. So that's basically a half dozen players in that game

are on the COVID-19 list. Lions quarterback Matt Stafford is in quarantine and has to fly a private plane to Minnesota just to start because he can't fly with the team, and that's assuming he continues to test negative. Andy Dalton cleared concussion protocol, but landed on the COVID-19 list, so he's not playing for Dallas.

The Ravens, Marlon Humphrey quarterback, which is their best cornerback, tested positive, and half the Baltimore starting defense is in quarantine. If they all test negative, they will be able to play, but still they're not practicing. The Baltimore's opponent this week,

the Colts, who also, they used to be the Baltimore Colts, that's the whole thing. But the Colts had a staff member test positive, so they're doing remotely, haven't had a player test positive yet. The Texans have had a player test positive, and now they have two other linebackers in quarantine. The Bears have two offensive linemen test positive. The Denver Broncos don't have a player test positive, but John Elway, the team's GM,

is tested positive and the CEO of the Broncos, the team president, Joe Ellis, has tested positive. So they're doing remote. The chiefs have shut down their facilities because the staff member tested positive. No players yet. But that happened today. Today's Thursday, so they're shut down. The Eagles who are on by this week

also had a player test positive. I feel like I should have played yakety sacks under that. So to summarize, it started out with the day we had a quarter of teams. We're up to now a third of teams have either something

between a staff member testing positive to players, quarantine somewhere between a minimum of players like not being able to practice to some players missing the game. Either way, of chaos and the nine of the 14 games, which could go up between now and, I mean, the time we finish this podcast, never mind by the time you're listening to it. So with all that said,

we are going to do our very best, which honestly may not be good enough, but we're going to do our best to explain what you can do to mitigate this. We're also going to try to like bitch a little because hopefully that's cathartic for you. But we're going to try to help you get through this week because this is nuts. Yeah, because normally, as we've seen throughout the rest of the season, you have like one or two games that potentially could get moves. You tell your fantasy league, if you're the commissioner, you tell your fantasy league, okay, guys, you know, have a backup option or two based on if this game gets moved. But now, honestly, I don't even know what, I don't even know what commissioners can do at this point,

because there are literally, like, almost every one of these games has some, like, at least, you know, one guy removed potential to get canceled because, like, the Seahawks played the 49ers last week, and the 49ers had positive tests a few days after that. Right, it's like the six degrees of Kevin Bacon, like no matter how which way you swing it. The reality of how they made the NFL schedule

is that they made the schedule so that if the season had to start late, they could lop off the first two weeks of the year and put them at the end of the season. And they did that kind of on purpose. And if you look at how they made the schedule, they was able to do that. But in the reality, the first half of the season went fine,

or not fine, relatively, considering what could have gone wrong. And the second half of the season is going to be complicated because now it's, you know, teams already played their buys. It's rescheduling these games is going to be a nightmare because teams have gone through buys and stuff. And also just the league is probably going to experience like the rest of the country, more cases if the winner is expected to surge. So I think you're right, D.K., I mean, the league is discussing a 16-team playoff field, which if any games are cut or canceled. But the point is the league doesn't know. Like, they're kind of playing this by the seat of their pants.

They don't know, and they're kind of just dealing with it so far. But I think that we don't know if any of these games are going to get postponed, but preparing for it is kind of impossible. My gut on this is that all the games are going to get played. I mean, if any of these games should get canceled, it's the 49ers Packers, which is tonight, obviously tomorrow, if the game did get canceled, I rescind everything I'm about to say. But basically the NFL...

Why can't they just push that to Sunday? Who does that hurt? The NFL absolutely should be pushing this game or canceling it, rescheduling it, or whatever, because it's ridiculous. It's like so many. The 49ers are down with an incredible amount of injuries already. They are, and now they're losing their left tackle and their best receiver in Brandon Ayuk,

who, by the way, we talked about on the last episode, now that, you know, my bold prediction of him leading all rookie receivers is in doubt because he might be on the COVID list this week and potentially beyond. So bottom line is, I think what we're going to do is just approach this as if these games are going to get played and try and talk to you guys a little bit about what you should do assuming these games do end up getting played. So let's look at Dallas Pittsburgh first because Andy Dalton is not going to play.

It's sounding like Garrett Gilbert is going to be the starter. Who is that? Or Cooper Rush? It's not going to be Danucci. Who the hell is Gilbert? So let's be clear. So obviously, Dak broke his ankle. Thanks.

And Dalton's now went from concussion. I'm just summarizing here. So Dalton went from concussion protocol. Geez. Dalton's in COVID protocol now. From Cucion to COVID protocol. So they're like, we're skipping.

right over, Danucci. Like, you know what? Screw that eighth grade basketball performance for my brother. McCarthy's done with him. So they've got Cooper Rush, who's been on the team for one week. And they've got Garrett Gilbert, who's been on the team for three weeks. I think it'll be Cooper Rush because he was the backup quarterback for Dak, like the last few years. And they caught him, but Callan Moore is the offensive coordinator.

And he actually stayed from Jason Garrett's staff to Mike McCarthy staff. So even though Cooper Rush is just joining the Cowboys, he knows the system, which is weird. But it doesn't matter because they're playing the Steelers. I mean, this is nuts. I mean, we can go into this, but this is absolutely a crazy game. It's nuts what's going to happen here. Okay. What if they just, like, cut Gilbert sign Kellynne Moore as a player, and he just suits up?

They should sign Tony Romo. Kellynmore's 32. The problem is Romo makes $800,000 a game or whatever from CBS, and Cowboys probably literally couldn't match that if they wanted to. I'm just saying, if you want somebody who knows the office, just throw Killinmore in there. I have to, you know what? You're probably not wrong. If Cooper Rush got hurt, I wonder how...

Kellen Moore probably could do better than whoever's after Gilbert on the... I bet you he could. I bet you he's still in shape. What's the rule on that? Can you act? He's a lefty too. He's a lefty too, him and Tua. The point is that the fact that the Cowboys now have to once again...

The Cowboys play their seventh round rookie quarterback and are now turning to a guy who wasn't on the team weeks ago. And the fact that they're going against the Steelers, I can't stress this enough. The Steelers have 30 sacks this season. They lead the league. They've already had their by week. Like, they lead the league and... sacks having had their buy. They are at 30 sacks in seven games. That's a 68 sack pace.

That would be the most in the NFL in 30 years. They're going against Dallas, who has both their starting tackles are out, and they're going to have a right tackle. Terrence Steele, who's an undrafted free agent, rookie, who will be going primarily against T.J. Watt, who is a defensive player of your candidate. Like, so our, so bottom line, our recommendation is don't start Cowboys players not named Ezekiel Elliott and or feel comfortable just not starting Zeke also. No one's going to actually,

no one's going to yell at you if you end up sitting Zique. At this point, it's just you can't trust this offense to do anything against a very good defense. Even in garbage time, I don't trust them to do anything. It's the best run defense in football. I know the Ravens ran on them last week, but that's different because Lamar Jackson changes the dynamic of the Ravens' rushing attack. The Steelers are the best run defensive football. So running back, we're not a wasteland.

I'd say Benj Zique, but it is. But anyway, this is a disaster. You can't trust Samari Cooper. You can't trust C.D. Lamb. You can't trust Gallup, even though Gallup was Danucci's favorite target last week. Now Danucci's out of the picture. You can't trust anybody in this offense, really. So, yeah, that is our professional opinion is that maybe just sit,

all Cowboys players this week until we figure out what the hell's going on. All right. So let's talk about this next game, the Lions Vikings. Stafford is the big wild card here. If he plays, I think Marvin's Jones' Jones, remains a good play with Goladay out. I think if Stafford does not play, I'm probably sitting all Lions receivers at this point,

but I do feel probably still pretty confident starting Dandre Swift whether Stafford plays or not. How do you guys feel about Swift? I would play him no matter what. Running back is awful right now. I'd be shocked if you had like three better running backs than DeAndre Swift. Right, right.

So with that said, Bears Titans. So this came as bizarre. The Bears already had a bad offensive line. Now they have two of their offensive line I mean, Cody Whitehair is positive for Corona. And then they also have Spriggs, who was playing, who played the large majority of last week is also positive. They won't play.

Now you have the potential for a person I've never heard of. Arlington Hambright. Great name. Arlington Hambright, he was a seventh rounder rookie. All British name right there. He might be at left guard this week. And then Alex Barr's will probably either be playing right guard or right tackle. The specifics we don't know.

but the one thing we do know is neither of those people have started an NFL game before. They would both be in the interest. So obviously that's awful for David Montgomery, the Bears running back. That's bad for Nick Foles. It's bad for everyone catches passes from Nick Foles

like Alan Robinson and Jimmy Graham. The only bright side here is that the Titans have an awful pass rush and generally a really bad defense and historically bad defense on third down. So, D.K., what would you do about like David Montgomery and Alan Robinson here?

I think you can still start them. I think Alan Robinson and startable no matter what. David Montgomery becomes a little bit less attractive as a startable guy this week, but I think he's still going to get the volume that he needs to be effective out given that floor. Even if he's not,

I mean, he hasn't been efficient all year, even if he's a little bit less efficient. I still think he's going to get, you know, five targets plus like 15 carries or whatever and just be, I think you have to, if you have him like we said with Swift, you probably don't have a ton of better options at this point, so you got to

start Montgomery too. to grit your teeth it's a grit your teeth kind of week this whole week what do you do with people on the Ravens Ravens Colts this week is kind of up in the air with both teams having a few but I think

I don't think it really changes much for the offenses on either team though right like you're still going to start Marquis Brown you're still going to start and I think JK Dobbins with Mark Ingram potentially out again is still a startable on the cult side things are more complicated but it's not because of the COVID

stuff that's going on. The defense, the defenders are probably going to play except for Marlon Humphrey, but it's not like the cold receivers are so good that you're like, oh, well, Marlon Humphrey's out,

like I'll play the receivers. Like, if you really need desperately. But Tyoy Hilton is out, so maybe Zach Paskill is the guy who goes out. If you need to stream someone, do you think Zach Paskill's like, you know, among the many reasons you might need to stream someone?

Is Pascal up there for you? With this week specifically, Zach Paskill, if he's a guy who's on free agency, you should at least stash him on your bench, and like can be a potential plug and play if you have somebody who might be a game time decision or whatever because yeah i mean marlin humphrey doesn't he primarily play in the slot he this isn't he's kind of done everything for them he does slot stuff primarily but without t y i mean who we got we got

marcus johnson we got we got pitman and we have pascal i mean and they're not going to be able to run the ball so i think pascal might be the guy who kind of by default has the best day yeah and the annoying thing is jonathan taylor again has that that ankle injury and also just you know bed being bench because he can't see holes. So I don't know if you want to play him against one of these great run defenses. This is just an awful week. And then it's unbelievable.

The other one, Texans, Jaguars. So the Texans have this couple of Corona stuff on linebackers. It's not like you're making any decisions based off a couple of Texans linebackers. But the Jaguars are, is it Jaguar? What did we decide here? Jaguar, Jaguar, I say Jaguars, but you guys say Jaguars. Did we decide if their quarterback is Jake Luton or Jake Luton or what, Louis Vuitton? I don't know, but would you play DJ Chark this week

if Louis Vuitton is going? Because I'm probably not playing DJ Chark. Are you going to start either Leviscus Chanel, DJ Chark? No. I'm not doing too. No. Even Keeling Cole, like with Luton going? I don't know. This is unrelated to COVID.

I just think it's nerve-wracking for me to start any of those guys with this new quarterback coming out. Yeah, Jake Louis Vuitton is not like some secret gunslinger. He's like, like, game manager. So I wouldn't play any Jaguars, except for James Robinson. So, all right, so that's like the COVID games that are affected the most. But obviously, you're just going to have to monitor everything this weekend. It sucks.

We have to monitor literally almost every game. Literally every facet of society requires your attention this week in addition to your fantasy football team. Craig, give me a couple other guys this week that are potential, like pick up, put them on the back of your bench in case a game gets canceled type players. Right. So I wanted to give some guys playing in non-COVID affected games we think. And I'm including Miami, Arizona, because the Arizona thing was last week during the buy. That seems to be okay. So these are guys not playing in any COVID-related games we think that you could just grab on your bench and could plug and play just in case a game gets postponed or canceled or whatever.

Leviska-Shonaut on Jacksonville. The Houston-Jackville game, I think, is COVID-free right now. Chanel has been a decent option all year, even with this. I mean, it's slim pickets, guys. Then we got Larry Fitzgerald, you know, kind of tried and true. Can maybe get you at seven, eight points. He's on a lot of free agency lists right now. Mike Gassicki, who I'll talk about later for Miami with Tua,

another tight end in the tight end wasteland world. He is only about half-rastered in leagues. You could find him. David Moore on Seattle. The Seattle Bill's game seems to be safe right now. And David Moore, you know, every two or three games is a 40-year touchdown. Emmanuel Sanders is off the COVID list in practicing. The New Orleans game seems to be COVID-free.

He could be a sneaky ad even if Michael Thomas plays or doesn't play. and the last one is Golden Tate, who's had two straight good weeks. Giants game seems to be doing all right right now, and he is very low-owned. So those are some guys you could go after just to put out the bottom of your roster. Honestly, this whole conversation we're having is just nuts. We're just trying to help people. Like, instead of helping people make optimal lineup decisions, we're trying to help people like, all right, if like half the games this week get canceled, here's what you should do. And it's just a reminder of how weird this season's been because the whole point of-

It's not fantasy, this is reality. Yeah, fantasy, exactly. You're supposed to escape reality. Now, reality is just bleeding into. the season. And it's not like this week's a one-off. It's not just this. It's like the train from inception. It's mall. Like at any time, that's just coming into us.

So, DeKid, do you want to, all right, we're going to get into our gut-gut bowl, but Deakin, you want to leave people on a, like, a note of hope here in optimism, or do you want to just give, like, your train-rug-in-cheek. Well, I was going to, this is tugging-cheek nihilism. You had one other option. Yeah, one other option

you have for this week if you're having some tough decisions in fantasy football is just to recognize that everything in life is futile. We're all going to die alone, turn to Dustin, no one's going to remember us. So really, if you just keep that in mind, it puts things in perspective with your shitty fantasy football lineup this week. I don't think I'm going to die alone. I'm probably a die. I'm going to probably die listening to you guys in some Zoom thing we're having, just like planning meeting. Well, what will not disintegrate into dust is your fantasy football trophy that you engrave and put on this earth and it will live many years past

yourself. So it is important that you win. I don't think a trophy for first place is important. Do you guys have trophies? We just have last place things. I had a toilet seat put around like the last place. I think like a t-shirt is fun, but we usually just do money. No one wants to pay for the trophies. You think like future civilizations will find the wreckage of ours and just like rummage through all our like fantasy football,

like last place trophies and try to like gauge what the culture was? Yeah, we should have a fantasy capsule that we put. That's a good idea. Well, not from this year. Maybe next year. We'll do a time capsule of next year. Something we want to remember. on. Okay, so life is pointless, eat Arby's.

All right. By the way, the nihilist Arby's Twitter account is like legitimately my favorite Twitter account. I think you run that account. It brings me back to neutral. Every time I see that, I'm stressing out about something. I have anxiety about something. I'm just like, you know what? None of the shit matters.

Eat Arbyes. Okay. Got gut bold time? Yeah. I like that we already addressed our first gut, which is gut call. The NFL plays the games. Bold call, they should take the week off. That's my first

ones. But things that'll actually happen. DK. rummage into your gut and tell us something that's going to happen this week that doesn't involve a few choice American states. I got one gut that I'm feeling pretty good about. Jerry Judy breakthrough game this week. All right. So according to FantasyPoints.com, Scott Barrett,

Judy was 10th and expected fantasy points last week. He had 10 targets. He only got four for 73 yards. But I think he's been getting open. He's been running like solid routes. Everything that he was basically known for at Alabama, I think he's doing. But he just hasn't had that breakthrough game quite yet. I feel like it's coming.

That's my gut. And he's getting the volume that would kind of like point to this idea that he's going to like finally explode. The interesting thing that I found is he's actually playing outside a little bit more now with KJ Hamler back and then having some injuries at the wide receiver position. So he's playing all over the field. you know, getting maybe some more of those vertical routes. It felt like Drew Locke, I don't think he's ever really lacked confidence, but if you saw him dancing last week, oh my God.

Through the game-winning touchdown, maybe he's gaining confidence, getting some mojo going. And, of course, them playing the Falcons, I think, is a big factor here, too. The Falcons have given up the fifth most points to opposing receivers this whole year. So my benchmark for this week is 15 plus half-PPR points for Jerry Judy. So I guess that would mean he's probably going to catch, like, 80, 90 yards in a touchdown. That would probably put them over the top.

First of all this game is like an Alabama receiver reunion because you've got Calvin Ridley, Julio Jones, and Jerry Judy, who are like three of the best receiving prospects of like to come out in the last few years, at least from Alabama. I love Jerry Judy. I love this pick, honestly,

because I think it's amazing how many receivers as rookies have made an impact this year and Judy's not one of them. And I would like to personally blame Drew Locke. It's definitely like quite a bit on the quarterbacking situation, I think, there because he, like, I watched a bunch of his tape a couple weeks ago. So I haven't watched closely his last few games.

But he's, you know, he's getting open. He's, he looks dynamic. He had a couple really big plays where he goes up over like a defensive back and grabs it. So I think he's been playing well. It just hasn't really showed up in the box score as much as it should. And I think that maybe this is the day that it does just going up against that defense. Yeah, I think the problem is the Broncos quarterbacks have sucked. But Judy's getting, I think Judy's getting open.

His footwork is unbelievable. He's quick. He could like chop salad with his cleats. It's crazy. Oh, that's a good. I'm always looking for new, like, football, like, chargene that I can use in my scouting reports. Yeah, like, he could chop salad.

Is that, that's a good one. I like that one. Did you make that up? I did. I just thought of it right now. Wow, you can trademark that. Chop salad with his feet. Like that grape video with the, like, the grape stopper, but, like, actually.

Well, no, it's like, all those weird scouting terms, like, what is it, like a bowling ball of knives or whatever? A rolling ball of but. your knives. Whoever came up at that, like, what are you doing in your spare time? But anyway, okay. Chop set. Watch tape. Craig, gut call. I basically had Jerry Judy slash Noah Fant as my gut call. D.K. and I are once again, copacetic. Mind meld. If only Drew Locke and Jerry Judy had the connection that you two do. Except D.K. went Boulder with his prediction. I just said Jerry Judy would have the most

receiving yards of his career, which is over 70s. which isn't that crazy, but it's a gut call, right? I'll just toss in a couple of things why I like Fant. One, you said the Falcons have given up the fifth most points. So wide receivers, they've given up the most points to tight ends this year. And one thing about the Broncos that's kind of interesting is they've been playing differently since they're by. Not only have they gone two and one, but they're playing way faster.

So they used to be the 15th fastest team now that of the fourth, and they're playing Atlanta who gets shredded. So I, and Noah Fant seems to be getting healthy. He had a good game last week. I think he had around seven catches. this is a this is going to be kind of secretly maybe a watchable game we're bullish on the broncos defense that means we're bullish on drew lock do you think drew lock is startable this week as a streamer yeah i think so the see ox have given up i mean the seahawks are the only team that's giving up

more passing yards of the air than at Atlanta this year yeah yeah or either of you guys good at dancing can you either of you judge drew luck's like grind the tape on your luxe i'm on tic talk a lot so uh yeah rated it. Drew Locke's, he's got the good shoulder shimmy. I just think it was funny because he was like, he was all by himself. No, none of his team weights were around. It was like, I feel like the referees were trying to sort out whether it was a catch

or something like that. It was like, there was a lull in the action. And then the cameras just pan to Drew Locke on the sideline, just like by himself, just do it a little jig. I just, I respect, I respect people that are very, like, innately confident in themselves. And I feel like Drew Locke is that guy. imagine if your name was Drew Locke growing up Like Locke is his last name

Like I feel like you better be confident If your last name's Locke Okay Yeah The my good for this week I just feel like I've seen the Steelers game And it's been played a thousand times

In history and just like Destiny's supposed to repeat Like this just feels like a Greek myth Tragedy playing out for the Cowboys Over and over again I don't want to say anything boring About the Steelers defense crushing the Cowboys I think we can all just kind of accept that

that's less a gut call and more like a premonition we're all having when we think about this game. So I'm going to flip to the other side of the ball. And I think that I think Juju has his best game since week one. He had like two touchdowns in week one. He had like 22 points or something. His next best game is 14 and a half. So I'm saying Juju has 15 fantasy points this week. But more importantly, he's going to look good because the guy who's going to be covering him for a lot of the game is bad.

And Jordan Lewis for Dallas. He's their slot cornerback. Juju has been playing a lot in the slot. I think he's going to crush Jordan Lewis. And the Cowboys defense has given up. like 33 points per game so far, which is the fourth most ever through eight games in like 50 years.

So this defense is awful. Jordan Lewis is the weak link of this defense. And I just think Juju is going to have a good game. I think that this is going to be an absolute route. So it's not like I'm saying Rothesberger, because I don't know if they're going to have to pass. I think James Connor is a good game. There's a lot of good ways you could go here.

But if you are ambivalent about starting juju, I am starting juju on the teams that I have them this week. Oh, I'm up. Okay. I feel like we've gone back to this well a few times, but I'm just going to keep doing it until it pops. Marquis, Brown's squeaky wheel game. Wow, this is like the fifth time we've done this.

Dude, at what point, remember when I was like, I'm a Will Fuller addict, like I'm a cigarette smoker, just like, yeah, yeah, it's my last one. I'm going to say this. If Brown does not hit this week, he's going in the burn book forever. But we have to go in the burn book because we keep doing this to people now. It's like, you know the end of the Fandul read? You know the Fandle read where it's like gambling problem?

We should have like Marquis Brown. Yeah, I mean, I recognize it. That's why I said it. That's why I prefaced it with like, I recognize this. But at the end of the day, honestly, I'm starting Marquis Brown this week in my fantasy leagues because I think that number one, his underlying metrics are still strong. He's 10th and he's going to be strong all season. He's going to have a terrible year and they're going to be like, well, but his expected points were great. He had it. I mean, he had a touchdown last week. He salved. He had one catch for three yards. He's challenged. He's on the West Coast. So you'll have no idea what I'm talking. about. But on the East Coast, they have these things called pregame shows, which is on Sunday morning when you're waiting 17 hours for football to start, you watch television because like, you're an idiot. And ESPN has this running joke where Sam Ponder makes fun of the other four football analysts because every week they're like, the Cowboys defense is fixable. And Sam Ponder every week is like, I've been hearing this all season. It's not fixed yet. And it's at the point where she just like stops the conversation when they say it. And that's how I feel

about Marquis Brown and the freaking underlying numbers. We've been saying it since June. It hasn't it happened. So you're saying because Markies Brown tweet. It's happened sometimes. You're saying because Marquis Brown tweeted this week that get the ball to your soldiers that it's going to happen now? Yes, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying

the squeaky wheel. The squeaky wheel is a powerful tool. Squeaky wheel gets the grease, obviously. I think, no, like John Harbaugh even commented. Lamar Jackson made a comment about this week, both saying they need to get the ball to Marquis Brown more. So, you know what? I'm going with

I'm going out on a limb here. And if he doesn't go off, we're putting him in the book, and that'll be the end of it. We're not going to talk about him ever again. You think Marquis Brown did that tweet, like, get the ball to me, and the Ravens are, like, flagging that tweet as misinformation? What's your metric? 80 yards in a touchdown. Love it. You know what?

If you get it, Godspeed, braver than me. He's already in the burn book in my mind, I think. I think I'm realizing that in this conversation. Craig, do you have a gut call? Oh, wow. My voice just crack in the middle of that. it did. Oh my God.

It does that sometimes. I'm crack. My whole psyche's cracking. I don't know what took so long. My gut calls you should bench Jonathan Taylor. Figure out a different solution this week. Don't start him. Will you start George Wilkins, though?

No. Just don't start anything. But if you had those two people and you have to make that decision, like who would you pick? Wilkins. Man. It's come to this. I think I agree, though. I'm saying he scores less than seven fantasy points, Jonathan Taylor.

Baltimore's the number one rushing defense in DVOA. They've given up the fourth fewest fantasy points to running backs this season. They're coming off a bad loss to pit. Like, I think Baltimore's got to be as locked in as ever today. Taylor's got an ankle injury. I know, I think Wilkins does two. Or maybe a girl. He has another injury, but I don't know.

To me, this looks like 11 carries for 24 yards for Jonathan Taylor. Like, I'm in my own league. I'm starting like Brandon Cooks over Jonathan Taylor. Like, if you have anybody who's, you could realistically see putting up eight points. I think you start them over Taylor. The crazy thing about this is like, look, you could always get a touchdown. You never know. Right. But barring,

barring, like, it's not even the fear of like, what if he goes off because he just hasn't yet. And it's usually a counterbalance that, well, what if he gets three carries and actually just sits, whether it's the ankle or whatever. There's not even the counterbalance of like, what if he has a great game? The counterbalance of,

like, what if he has like 11 points? Right. Craig, let me ask you this. Would you start Jordan Howard or Jonathan Taylor. Holy shit. Is this what life is? Jordan Howard, for the record, has been a healthy scratch for the last two or three weeks.

And Jordan, the only reason they probably have not cut him yet is because they paid him a bunch of money this offseason and owe it to him. But otherwise, if you're a healthy scratch and you're making $5 million a year, then like, that is just like, we want to fire you, but cannot. Howard's my bold prediction that he's coming back from the dead game. But are you serious? I want the answer first, Craig. I'd probably start Howard.

Fuck it. Wow. Well, you gave him the cover there, D.K., you gave him the covering fire. You did. So let me just, let me briefly go through my Jordan Hauer take. No one, one, yes, he's been a healthy scratch to past three games. However, Miles Gaskin is on the IR with a knee injury now. Matt Breda did not play on Wednesday with a hamstring injury.

It doesn't sound like he's going to be ready to go. And even if he is ready to go, based on everything we've seen from him, he'd have two carries before he was, you know, hobbled off with something going on. So I think that opens up Howard to be the lead back against the Cardinals this week. They also have Patrick Laird, who I think will be more like a pass-catching type of guy than a between the tackles banger. I think Howard's going to get goal line looks. So, yeah, that's basically why I'm going with it. It's definitely a risky call, and there might be safer options out there.

But I think just in terms of usage, I think he's going to get the type of uses that you want to see this week. And I think he's not like a bad running back. He's been a healthy scratch just because they really like what Gaskin does in the passing game. Look, I think that there's a great theory, not a theory. I think Josh Hermesmeyer talks about this, that snaps are a skill stat. Like, if you're playing, the coaches think you're good enough to be on the field. And to us, that's kind of trivial. To the coaches, it's literally everything.

To players, it's everything, it's being on the field. When you're a healthy scratch as in you're not on the active roster, like you're not eligible to go onto the field. That is also a skill step. That is like a indication of where they think you are at. And I actually think Patrick Lair, if that's what they've thought of Jordan Howard the last two weeks, I'd actually gunned in my head. I have to play Patrick Laird or Jordan Howard, picked them up off waivers, put in my lineup. I'd actually put Patrick Laird in. I'm not saying you're wrong because here's the thing.

We have no idea. Miles Gaskin just got hurt. We don't know what he's been getting all of their goal on carries. We have no clue what they're going to do. They traded for DeAndre Washington. He can't play yet. We don't know. But reading the T-Leaves, I actually think Patrick Laird's the better play.

Here, okay. I think that what you said all makes sense. My counter with that would be that Laird is playing a lot of special team snaps. That's why he's been active on game days. He's played 53% of their special team snaps this year. So he's a key part of their special teams units. That doesn't mean that he's not going to get carries in this game. I'm just saying that's why I think he's been active over Howard in these games.

We'll see. Again, we're trying to decipher. We're trying to decipher something that's possible to decipher. But, you know, my gut is that Howard's going to be the guy. All right, we'll see. All right, let's not linger on this backfield anymore. Jordan Howard's rookie season. He had 1,600 yards, seven touchdowns, and ran at 5.2 yards per carry.

Yeah. Just wait until Patrick Litt. We see what Patrick Laird does tomorrow on Sunday. Okay. So who's up my bold or no, you have a gut? I think it's me. So D.K. said Marquis Brown blowup game or whatever. I think Will Fuller Revenge game.

This is not based on math or numbers. I mean, I guess they're playing the Jaguars. I guess it's a matchup thing. It's not really about that. The Jaguar suck, though, which helps. It's a trade thing. But basically, yeah, Will Fuller was going to be traded to the Packers this week. It was a whole rumor.

I don't know if it was even real because it was, there was so little NFL trade deadline news, like nothing that I, part of me wonders if it was just kind of baseless and just the biggest name. But the point is, Will Fuller tweeted for the first time in like a month and a half to a funny gif of like what the hell is happening? Like, I'm like what is going on? And I think that that's funny. But I also do think this is one of those games where Deshawn Watson will feed him.

Usually it's impossible to know when a quarterback's going to, like, throw to a receiver. It's a real thing. You hear retired quarterbacks talk about you do have to feed certain guys. There's a politics to it. Like any office, there are internal politics where receivers are like, I have a contract negotiation coming up. Like, I need the ball. I think that there is, well, it's not less about that, but more like, Deshawn Watson is going to make a statement that he wants Will Fuller on this team in this game.

And the Jaguars are not particularly well suited to cover Will Fuller. so I think that he's going to have over 20 points but if he doesn't you will have under three wow so that's my range over 20 or under three so you're oh this is an interesting because if it doesn't happen I think it's the reverse the reverse

it's he's checked out and he's like screw this team I'm a free agent I'm not getting hurt so it's like 20 points up or three that's how I can I change can I change my marquees brown one to 80 yards and a touchdown or no catch zero catches I love it. I kind of like to give you some advice right now, do one catch.

Give yourself the one catch. One catch. Cushing. Or one catch. I mean, theoretically he could do both. D.K., what is your Jordan Howard stat? Oh, let's see here. I got 12 points, half p.

m. Okay. Who's up? I have one extra one to talk about real quick. Oh. The Jameson Crowder return game. That's my extra. This is more like a gut call.

He didn't practice Thursday, but it sounds like that was precautionary according to Connor Hughes of the athletic. It's looking more like he's on track to play for the first time in three weeks. And I just want to remind people, if he does play, when he's been in there, even when he's been coming off of like little nagging injuries, he's been good. He ranks second, according to the fantasy points, second and expected fantasy points per game, 18.3. This is in PPR.

Fifth in fantasy points per game and first in targets per game. And what my buddy Scott Barrett is always hammered is like, Adam Gase doesn't, do very many things well, if anything. Well, he does one thing well. I'll put it that way. He feeds his slot receiver. Oh. Well, no, okay.

That's true. Unrest among the fed base? The one positive thing that he does, let me put it that way, is he gets his slot receiver fed. Like, if you go back to, uh, with Miami, like Jarvis Landrieu is getting like 150 targets or whatever it was. That, that offense feeds the slot receiver. And that's what Jameson Crowder is going to do.

So if Jameson Crouter goes back in there, I think he's startable is my point. even in that terrible Jets offense. God, I just want to take the thing. If there's one thing Adam Gays does well, I want to take that, I want to frame that. If you could frame words, I would frame this.

There's one thing that he does well is give the Jets a scapego until they get the number one overall pick next year. Also, my weekly prediction is that this is the Denzel Mims week. If there's one thing Adam Gase does well, it is leave his wife

while she was giving birth. Okay, my bold? He didn't leave her. He left the room. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, he didn't break up, but yeah, he didn't file divorce. That was gay-as-old prediction. Still bad.

That was the bull prediction. Okay. Mine for this week is that Mike Gisicki has a bounce-back game. He scores double-digit fantasy points. I know that doesn't sound that crazy, but he's only done that twice this year, double-digit fantasy points. He is the tight-end 17. I was in on Gisiki in the off-season. I think you guys were two.

Yeah. Tide-in 17. This kind of went under the radar, but not that it matters too much, but Isaiah Ford, the slot receiver for the Dolphins, was traded. to the Patriots last week. Let's play a game here. How many dolphins, wide receivers can you guys name? Well, that's actually hard because they had Alan Hearns and Albert Wilson opt out of the season.

Correct. So you have name as many as you can. Jaquim Grant. Well, obviously, Devonte Parker, Preston Williams, Jaquim Grant. And then that's where it gets a little more. Oh, who's their fourth? Malcolm, what's his last name? He's right.

Malcolm Perry. Malcolm Perry, the rookie out of I would not have gotten that. Well, he's a rookie out of Navy, and he was like a running back slash Wildcat quarterback. They also have Bowden, who is the exact same deal

like Kentucky. Oh, yeah, the Raiders gave up on him before he played for them. I think Craig's overall point, though, is like they have basically two guys that are real, like, players. So, yeah.

Gisiki was already leading all tight ends and slot snap rate. I think that's only going to go up now that Ford's gone. There's no right. receivers in the dolphins for Tua to throw to. I mean, there's got to be somebody. And they're playing the Cardinals. The Dolphins also with Tua played way faster pace than they did with Fitzpatrick. I don't know if it was just too small of a sample size, but they absolutely

erupted in their pace of play. So if that's true, there could be a lot of plays in this Cardinals, Dolphins game, and Gassiki might be the most athletic player on the Dolphins' offense now. So here's my issue with Giski. I was not in on Gassiki in the offseason. It was very simple. because the Dolphins' new offensive coordinator, Chang Galey pretends tight ends don't exist. But they treat him as a slot-wide receiver. Yeah. If he is, like, technically the slot receiver in this offense now I'm in,

I'm just hesitant because he, I don't, I'm a little hesitant here. Well, that's why it's bad. I'm with here. I will agree that I was a little bit concerned about, like, the hype around Gassiki coming into the season. However, I do like this call a lot this week because of everything that Craig just laid out. they don't have a ton of other options in the passing game. And I will say that Gisicki is a glorified tight end.

He's not really a tight end. He's more of a receiver that just is called a tight end because I don't think they ask him to block very much. He's not good at blocking. So, I mean, that'll do it. You know what I mean? It's not really, it's not what he's there for. It's not the reason that, like, he's on the field.

No, that's a good note. He's like an Evan Engram, not a Dallas Goddard or Kittle. I'm just looking up his, I'm looking up his slot. Well, I know he leads all tight ends and slots snap rate. Yeah, so this year his snap rate out of the slot is 74%, which is really high. All right, Craig, I think you've convinced me. I just think he's not going to be the tight end 17 this week. Like, I think he'll be startable.

It's literally number one in the NFL. All right, well, Craig, you convince me he's not a fake tight end. Is it a bowl time? Or you did your bold, D.K. That was my bold. Because I think he was my bold. Way too much dolphins talk right there. My God.

Jordan Howard, Mike Yisicki. I know. Is this what has come to? What do you have? It's the one. Yeah. I think my bold is, I think Matt Stafford plays this week and he plays really well. I think he's going to have a good game.

Like everything's stacked against him, right? Like he's not practicing. He might not play. And Kenny Ghalad is out. So like, you look at this game and you're like, oh, my God, like stay away from Detroit. I think he's going to play. I mean, he's quarantining. I have no idea if, you know, what the situation was.

But if he keeps testing negative, he's going to play. And it's not like some rookie quarterback. like it's bad, he's practicing, but he's still preparing for the game. And the Vikings cornerbacks are actually in worse shape than the Detroit passing offenses. Like, if you watch the Vikings last week, they had, you know, Cam Dancer had a very scary neck injury that they say he might be able to play this week. That seems nuts. I cannot believe they would try him out there again. They had another cornerback.

Markfield's had punctured lung when one of the Packers receivers cleats at his chest. That's crazy. He's out. And then they had another cornerback. Harrison Hand has a hamstring injury. Holton Hill has been out for like a month with a foot injury. I don't believe he's going to come back. So they're down their top four cornerbacks.

They also went into the season down their top three cornerbacks from last year. So the Vikings, they were, I mean, they're the cold stone scraping the bottom of the thing. They're like, they're scraping down in a metal. They're like scraping off the floor. Like they got nothing left there. And they also have no pass rush because Daniel Hunters, they traded away Yonick and Gokwey. Daniel Hunter's and I are. So you got a team that can't cover on the outside, can't rush the passer.

and if Mike Zimmer's going to try to manufacture pressure, like Matt Stafford's seen it. Like it's not like there's some team just coming into the Vikings. Like they play the Vikings twice a year. Like I don't think the Vikings get any pass rush in this game. I don't think they can cover anyone. I think Marvin Jones is a good game. Matt Stafford is a good game.

I think he's a perfectly fine top 10 quarterback. You know what I'm picturing Matt Stafford doing right now in this week when he's like isolating, getting ready for this game is like... Listening to this podcast, like, yeah. You know in like Kung Fu movies where guys put on like the blindfold and they're like practicing, this is like in montage. they're like practicing, fighting with no eyes. This is like Stafford is practicing all week, visualizing.

On his private jet. He can't actually go do anything. So he's just got to like get in the zone. So Hyfitz, what is your number? I think he's a top 10 quarterback. If that's not bold enough, I'll go higher. I just feel like everything is trending against the lines being good. Do top seven.

Top eight? I'll give you eight. Top eight. Because without Kenny Gallaudet, he's not practicing, but I think he's going to be perfectly fine. and I think the Vikings are going to play the defense is going to be screwed. All right. So are our bolts?

Mm-hmm. All right, what an insane week. Okay. Let's just recap how we did last week. DK, we take us three years. Yeah, the Levi-on-Bel revenge game did not materialize.

He only finished with 5.3-half p-pr.p.r points. I had guessed 13, so that was wrong. Otherwise, I felt pretty good about my other guesses. Brandon Ayuk, top 20 receiver. That was correct. He was the wide receiver 8. He did grab a quarterback in garbage time, or a touchdown in garbage time, but I'll take it.

19.1. All counts. DJ Dallas, and we have here not sure what the bet was, but it doesn't matter. He was the RB4. He out, out, you know, out produce expectations by far. And then I also threw this one to High Fitz. Technically, I think this is High Fitz is what I'm taking credit for it since I threw it to you, High Fitz. Darno Mooney, five for 85 was the guess.

And that was somewhat correct because he got five for 69 and a touchdown, 15.4, half BPR points. So Darno Mooney hit too. So three out of four. Not bad. I'll take it. Wow. It just like toss me a prediction and then like it works and you're like, actually I want that back. If you had, if it hadn't gone wrong, I definitely would have blamed you for it.

I would not have taken credit for that. Just so you know. All right. Well, mine, we actually kind of had some overlap here because I also, I said Leveon Bell would have the revenge game. That didn't go well. I said Adam gets to get fired after the game. That didn't happen. Well, that's more bad for the Jets than anything.

So sorry. I also said Iyuk could be top 20 receiver that was right I said CD Lamb would not be a top 30 receiver that was right I don't really take pride in those 50 they all make me kind of just sad to be honest because it just Iuuk's not playing this week because he's in quarantine and Cid Lam just also seems like he's going to be bad again so I don't really take pride from these it's more like wow the state of the NFL is awful right now anyway Craig how'd you do on that really bright note I did pretty average I said

Devante Parker would not be a top 30 wide receiver that was correct he was the wide receiver 48 it was scary because like the first five minutes of the game he caught a touchdown for like three yards and I was like uh-oh and then he literally never did anything else um speaking of catching one pass for a touchdown and doing nothing else i had marquise brown big game dk 80 yards and guess what he did one catch for three yards i forgot that we had this literally last week too my bad but yeah and then my bold was that mims would go double-digit fantasy points he had 5.2 led the jets though you let the team if you get points for leading the team then denzil Mims is going to be great with his forecatches for 40 yards every week.

It's not bad. Better than Jonathan Taylor's going to be this week. I can tell as soon as we get over the Marquis Brown thing, Denzel Mims is going to be next and I'm already upset about it. I love Mims. It's just a wheel. We just obsess. Oh my God.

It's eventually we're going to be back to Four Nett and David Johnson. Okay. Million dollar lineup time? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Guys, I got bad news. Did we win?

No. But we're going to do it this week. every Friday, Fandil DFS lineup, winner gets a million dollars. We're going all the way out. We're trying to come first out of like 700,000 entries. We're trying to make a million dollars a week here.

The year I turned 26 as the head of my own brokerage firm, I made $49 million, which really pissed me off because it was three shy of a million a week. So who burned us? Yeah, who are we blaming for not winning a million bucks last week? We got Johnny T. Johnny Taylor, screwed us.

And then, of course, we tossed it. mims and Marquise Brown in our lineups. I'm sensing a theme here, guys. D.K. was not deterred. You know, the brain is an association machine. You know that? Like, just detects patterns. I'm detecting a pattern in our failure. I'm going to be honest. I really liked this lineup going in.

Okay. Well, it didn't work. What are we doing this week? This week, I kind of played around with it. You guys gave me the go-ahead to roll with this one. I like it. Justin Herbert at quarterback, going up against the Raiders. He's just been on fire lately, you know, tossing touchdowns left and right. We like him.

Two running backs, Derek Henry and James Connor. Both of them, I think, in these games, are going to have good game scripts. I feel like the Titans are going to get off to a lead and just be able to run up down Chicago's throats. Same with the Steelers at Dallas. And then at receiver, Stefan Diggs, going up against the Seahawks Pass secondary, which has been terrible. We like Diggs' ceiling in that one. Keenan Allen is a stack with Herbert. Keenan Allen has just been like

the most heavily targeted receiver in the NFL with Justin Herbert under center and then Jerry Judy going back to one of our predictions here this is the game that's going to happen for him against the ATL and then Mike is Sicki at tight end for reasons discussed earlier and DJ Dallas in our flex he had to kind of go with the cheap guy

at that spot because we shelled out for Henry Diggs Allen the situation with Seattle in terms of their running back is a little bit up in the air still sounds like Travis Homer's going to be back but I see him probably playing more of the passing down role. He's very, I think, a big deal on their special teams and whatnot. So I could see DJ Dallas getting the most of the load here again if Chris Carson can't go. So that's the reason I threw DJ Dallas in there.

We might have to make this change late if Carson ends up being active. But even if he has active, I don't know. Realistically, I feel like if you really are doing DFS this week, I feel like there's going to be so many last-minute changes. changes with all this COVID stuff and injuries that this is like the biggest week we're just making your lineup and knowing updates like 10 or 15

minutes before the game start is going to be more important than ever for one setting your fantasy lineups but especially for like having DFS this week I feel like you know who knows what's going to happen between now and Sunday afternoon. Oh and then at defense Tennessee Titans going up against the bears who don't have their offensive alignment and have already

had a terrible offense. That's such Galaxy Brain. I'm the one I I love Galaxy Brain plays. That's some Galaxy Brain stuff because the Titans are allowing 60% on third day. They've had a terrible defense this year. So this is kind of like, I don't know if a galaxy brain is the right word, but it's definitely like a little bit. I'm losing my mind.

Did we talk about this on Wednesday that the Titans are allowing a higher third down conversion rate than Ben Simmons shot from free throw line this season? Yeah, you did. So I don't know. I just think it's a funny game because Derek Henry versus Khalil Mack when the Titans are in offense is like this like old school mythical style of football. It's like Donkey Kong. King, it's like Donkey Kong versus like Bowser.

It's like Greek myths clashing. Clash of the Titans almost, Danny? Oh, yeah, I didn't want to do that. But then the other side of the ball and the Bears Titans game is like the saddest offense against like the most pathetic defense. And it's just like, I don't know. I can't remember a game that was so like flip channels when like one team is the ball. Anyway, no one cares about this stuff. Fantasy court time.

Oh, rise. Oh, I didn't even know we were doing it. This is exciting. All right. Fantasy court. this one is actually kind of like a fun court thing all right this is from Brian hi Brian you said that like what is this like the meeting

for like the Marquis Brown thing like hi Brian did we have a question from Brian last episode too I feel like a lot of Brian's are emailing it I think we did I think remember we went like hi Brian that's why I remember there's a lot of people named Brian in the world all right so from Brian

I've heard on your podcast you guys hold fantasy court where you try to decide situations that have happened in leagues and was the most fair outcome as an objective third party. Yes, that is what we do. I, too, would like to request the same services, but for a slightly different question. My group of friends have played beer pong for decades, more or less, at this point. The most controversial thing we ever saw in beer pong still divides our group 50-50 in a completely sweat-drenched, passionate divide.

In college, we used to play with the rule that if two cups were remaining and the team were to clear the two cups in a single turn, the game would be over. There would be no rebuttal by the opposing team. Traditionally, this was done by one person hitting one shot and the other person hitting another shot.

We also had another rule that if the cup was not full enough and was knocked over by a legitimate shot, then that cup was counted as a make and pulled away as a pounty for not filling up the cup enough.

All this sets the stage for our divide. My roommate and... This is a real case here. All right. We're digging in. My roommate and I were playing on the table

with a room full of about 20 people. We had two cups remaining and my roommate took the first shot and missed. I famously have somewhat of a line drive shot famously with Larry Bird. And when I took my shot at it, caught the edge of the cup perfectly and spun around the inside of the top rim twice and then came out and slipped into the other cup. I like to say it moonwalked based on how grateful it was. As the first cup fell to the ground and off the table, two cups, one shot. So I guess it rimmed out, knocking it out, and then rolled into the other cup. Wow. Right. Needless to say the room exploded.

Calm down a little bit, Brian. With people screaming at what just happened, how they had never seen anything like this, about a minute or two of hysteria ensued, and then the opposing team took the balls for redemption shots, and that's when 20 people united and in disbelief became 20 people divided on what they saw. We have no written rules about how this takes place.

Is the clearing of the two cups that take away the opportunity of redemption, or is it that both teammates took flawless shots in the same term? We had an argument in the moment. It talks about the sheer odds, but after 15 years, they defaulted, to your wisdom and to figure out this long-held argument? First of all, I really like the vivid imagery in this email.

Like, it's taking me to this moment. I'm like reliving. A lot of nostalgia involved right here. So thank you for that. I have my answer in my head. What are you guys thinking about this? Well, what, D.K. Justice, D.K.

I think the spirit of the rule is that both cups get cleared, and that's a game winner to me. I don't think it, I don't think the rule is both guys have to hit a shot. That's like, who, cares. You hit, you got two cups in the last shot. I think that's, that's buzzer. That's game over. What do you think, Craig? I've played a lot of beer pong in my life. Yeah. And I have, no, I'm not. And I have, I don't know, experienced a lot of different rules. I have very specific opinions on what rules should be, as do some of my friends. But knowing these guys' rules and what it is,

I agree with the D.K. I think the spirit of the rule is that if the rule is, you know, if two people make each cup or if two cups are sunk, the game's over. I mean, he made two. It's over. And also was an incredible shot. He deserves the one anyway. But if, don't get me wrong. If I was on the other side, I would be arguing my tail off about how that's not correct.

Both people need to have back to back shots because then you get balls back and that's essentially what the rule is. But I think for the sake of this, I think it should be game over. He wins. He made two cups. That's the rule. Danny? Also, like, fill your cups up with water or beer if you don't want it to fall. Like, that's another thing.

Yeah. So here's the thing. I think that it's a fact. So there's a legal text. So on one hand, obviously, the game is over. And I can't believe they even had to argue about it. But because it's like the spirit of the rule and the letter of the law line.

But here's the thing. Craig brings up an interesting point where why is the game over at that point? And the reason is that if you hit the both, it's balls back and that should end the game. So I get arguing that point. But the point, the spirit of the pounty for not fling up the cup is that what do you do? How dare you? It's like an insult to the integrity of the game to not doing it. So the fact that you would wage your legal battle here off of like trying to defend that you

didn't fill a cup up, you have no standing. You have no water to stand on, no beer to stand on. You have no ground to stand on. I think this is really easy. I can't believe you've been arguing about this for this long, really. I have more of a bone to pick with the people who sent this in. How is this even, this is not hard. This reminds me of, this reminds me of a game winning role that we had when I used to

play back in the day is if both of you guys, make a ball into the same cup, it's over, like game over. In other words, the people on the other side of the thing... At any point in the game? Yeah, at any point, you have to be paying attention as the person on the other side of the table. You have to pull the cup.

If you pull the cup and drink it, like that you have to be paying attention. You can't let other people, like, shoot into the same cup. If you shoot, if one guy shoots in, the next guy shoots it in, and hits both in the same cup, game over. I mean, I do know what you're saying. We always play that you don't pull the cup.

You let all the cups sit there until the round of shooting has been finished. Because the whole purpose is if two guys or whoever makes the same cup, you get three cups. That's the rule. Oh, that's an interesting one. All right. Well, we can talk about house rules forever, but we settled that one kind of quickly. I think we're, yeah, we're all in agreement that it counts. Yeah, we have another fantasy court email here.

This one's from Rudy. I write to ask for an immediate injunction about the outstanding ballots and fill it. No, we shouldn't read that one. Okay, let's get out of here. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you to everyone who emailed us in. Ring your Fantasy Football at gmail.com.

Thank you, Lorne. Thank you, Lorne. Can you imagine if Giuliani emailed us? God. I would... Oh, my God. It'd be so great if it was just about a fantasy football question. He was like, guys love a show.

Can I start Jonathan Taylor this week? Marquise Brown. Thank you for everyone for listening. We'll see you guys on Monday.