The Ringer NFL Show - The Worst Bets for the Divisional Round

Episode Date: January 20, 2022

Betting is more fun when you ignore the stats and go with your gut, right? We discuss the bets that have caught our eyes, offer our takes, and use all the wrong reasons to wager on the divisional round. Worst picks (5:19) Emails (44:10) To compete and play DFS against us on FanDuel during the NFL playoffs, click here! Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You guys get enough advice from being able to get. The divisional round, sir, you've had too much caffeine. Did I just, did I just do that? We're not too having it. Don Bergen did it? Does read the teleprompter? Yeah. Wildcard's over, although we could make those bets again. We'd be 100% right.

I hope that they would be better. The hindsight bets. Although I was 100% right last week, so. No big deal. You did, yeah, there we go. We'll just do a Craig dead. All right, we'll do the divisional round. I guess we'll do the divisional round.

We'll read the teleprompter blindly. But these are the worst bets to the divisional round because again, like, there's enough people being like, here are good bets. We're gonna give you bad bets. We're filling the niche. Like, no one's filling the bad bet niche. Wow, I wouldn't say that.

No one's acknowledging they're filling the bad bet. Yeah, that's more accurate. No one's just like, these are bad bets right off the show. Okay, so we're going to do that. We're recording this on Wednesday because, so just keep in mind we haven't really gotten the full injury picture for these games. Again, if we had, they'd be better bets, but they're the worst bets. So we don't really know what the other citizens is.

Bad betters bet in the middle of the week. Bad bettors don't wait to get all the info. We're placing ours on Wednesday. All right. Just where all the values out, but we don't have any extra information to bet again. Okay. First, just reminder, we do the Fandall Listener League.

It's fandle.com slash league slash ringer listener league. We got the link in the episode description if you want to join us. Please do. The entry fees five bucks. It's the whole weekend of games. It's fun. Compete against us. It's a good time.

Check out the Fandle Ringer Listener League. Also, I wanted to point out, I think Daily Fantasy is the best. This specific, point. Division round and conference championships I think are the most fun to play daily fantasy because it's a limited amount of games. You've got eight teams. So you feel like you kind of have thoughts

on like every single player and like what they could do. It's not so wide of a net where you're just like shooting fish in a barrel. Actually the other way around. Shooting fish in a barrel is easy, right? It's trying to find the needle in a haystack. Right. It's like yeah, needle in a haystack. So I love divisional round and conference championships daily. I actually think these are the best two weeks of football. Like I don't want to be all

dramatic. But like the next, like the week where you get the divisional round and those two days of football and the conference championship. That is the best. Like eight days that there really is. I want to point one thing out. So Wild Card Weekend is a great name.

You know I'm big on names, right? Oh, Divisional Round's terrible. Conference Championships great name. Super Bowl, really grabby name. Divisional Round is terrible. I agree. I can't believe you said this. I was also thinking about this like yesterday.

Divisional Round, it's not grabby. Like, we did to rebrand it. Why don't they call it like the quarterfinals? Is that any better? Well, then it'd have to be the semifinals if it was the next round. You'd have to keep that going. Right. Email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com

if you have a better idea for the divisional round. This is a good point, Craig. All right. I never thought about that, Craig. Wow. Stop me in my tracks right there. It's underwhelming. It is.

Doesn't sound good. I'm just thinking about titling this episode, worst bets for the divisional round. I'm like, ugh. Should we just call it worse bets for finals? And just see if people think we're insane. I don't know. Now I'm thinking about it.

It'll make people do it. It'll make people like look at it again. Divisional duel. I don't know. Does it have to be division? Why does it even have to be division? I think it's a remnant from how it used to be like a very long time ago. What is the word for?

I know that there's a word for this, but when you say something and it just sounds wrong, like it just makes you like cringe. It's like, oh, I messed up that word. Like skirt. Skirt. When you say the word skirt to me, that's just like the weird. Like, why is that a word? Skirt. I have no idea.

I've never thought about it. We should probably start talking about it. Yeah, okay. Okay. All right. All right. D.K., other than skirt, skirt, skirt. What do you want to bet on this weekend?

All right. So, I want to skip over the obvious. We'll get to the big game. We'll get to the biggest game of the weekend. All right. First, I want to talk about it.

Let's bet on something Joey Burrow. Oh. Joey B. Joey covers. Bengals at Titans. I think this is a sneaky fun game to bet on. Yeah. Right now, I think the Titans are favored by three and a half.

The over-underer is 47. Check my mouth in that if it has changed. since overnight. But I feel like I want to bet on Burrow. Last week I bet on him going under. I feel like this week I want to bet on him going over where he is. So right now is over under. I think it actually went up from last night.

It was 273 and a half yards last night. And I don't know. For whatever reason, I just feel like this is going to be a shootout. The Bengals and the Titans both finished a year. They were seventh and eighth in most passing yards allowed, respectively. So this could be one of those games that's kind of a sneaky shootout. The Titans are getting all their offensive weapons back. Do the Bengals do

shootouts? Well, relative shootout. What's a relative shootout? Lots of points. Like a fight. 30-30-ish points for each team. That's a shootout. That's a shootout. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying it's going to be like 50 to 50 or something like that. Well, then you should

be betting the over if you think it's going to be 30 to 30. That's another say, I think. You're only casually saying it's two touchdowns more than the over. So do you want to Joe Borough over? Every week, Deke comes with bets, and then we're like, do you want something completely different based than what you're describing? Like, why don't you just bet the over for this game? This is why I'm asking you guys.

No, I want to bet the over on, well, first of all, let's just bet the over. That sounds good. Okay, so let's write that one down. Okay, so DeK, you want the over on Bengals Titans. Yes, but I also think that the burrow over in terms of passing yards is good. And somebody check, hold on, I'm actually just pull it up right now. Right now, they've got Burrow at 273.5. So yeah, I think that's good.

over the last six games he's done he's gone over that four times um and in those four times it's been like a lot like he went up 400 something almost 500 something in one game um and the last three games that all the starters have played i saw this from hayden wings last three games that all the starters have played for the bengals have been the three uh highest neutral situation pass rate for them for the entire year so basically they've worked up to this they they've kind of like slow-rolled it. You know, we're going to protect Burrow early on with the run game, all that stuff.

Now they're letting him loose. They're taking off the old restrictor plate. They're letting him throw it. The Red Dragon. So I don't know. I'm excited about this one. I think that, you know, the Titans defense, it is a little bit nerve-wracking

that they have a very good pass rush, but their secondary, I don't think, is going to be able to hang with the Bengals pass catchers. So I think that's, like, where the advantage is. D.K., maybe were you a little upset that we went against Burrow last week, and he's America's boy,

so you kind of wanted to, like, you want something behind Burrow this week? Like, he's just, he's the guy right now. I was the one who picked the under, so I'm not, like, upset about it. I just think this week might be different. You're upset about it. You can tell. DK's too polite to admit it.

I'm sick of you guys, always doubting Burrough. I, well, so we faded the Bengals last week, and I got to be honest, guys, I'm going to do it again. I like Tennessee minus three and a half. Really? Yes, I do. Okay. We can discuss it. Hives, I don't know where you land, but the Titans are maybe the most, um,

under-discuss one seed ever. No one likes the Titans for whatever reason. Nobody believes in them. They're like the Cardinals on the East Coast. I don't know what's going on. But they are fully healthy, pretty much. Julio, A.J. Brown, and Derek Henry are seemingly going to be playing in this game,

which they were six and two in the first eight weeks of the season when Derek Henry was around. They're also 11 and two this year when A.J. Brown plays. That's incredible. I don't know. I did not know that. I knew they were way better with A.J. Jay and Julio both on and A.G. Brown,

11 and 2 with A.J. Brown. They lost like five games this year. So, I guess, I think to back up for a second, yeah, it's like they, what Craig said, them being healthy. They had, they broke the record for players used in a season with like a month left in the season. They had 90 players used this season. Now Derek Henry is back for this game. We had a rule before Derek Henry got hurt,

which is we're betting all the Derek Henry overs until Derek Henry doesn't win. And then he just got hurt. Which brings me to my name. next bet that's involved in this game. So Derek Henry, we don't know a lot, right? He's been practicing for almost three weeks now. It seems pretty much a foregone conclusion that he's going to be starting in this game. Sorry, there's a leaf blower going outside my house right now, and I can't turn it off. Sorry about that. Do you think that that's like the sound of Derek Henry?

All the money. I hope it is. So I found this bet. It's who's going to lead the entire weekend in rushing. And yeah, Derek Henry is plus three 25. and the only guy below that is whose second is Eli Mitchell. He's plus 375. After that, I don't feel confident about anybody. Leonard Fournett, Cam Acres, Joe Mixon, those are the next three. And then it gets even worse after that, AJ Dillon, guys like that. Derek Henry, at plus 325 to lead the weekend in rushing, if he plays a full load and, like,

I don't think they're going to play him and give him 10 rushes. I just, if he's in full contact all week and he's been practicing for three weeks, I don't know why they wouldn't use him to his full ability in a playoff game as a one seed. So, Eli Mitchell, I think, could do it. But man, dude, 325. Like, I don't think anyone in any game is going to clip 100 yards except Derek Henry. I like that one a lot. I think that's great.

The odds are terrible. It's probably, like, again, these are the bets that are like the things at the end of the aisle in the supermarket. They're just, they're terrible odds. You're not getting good at value. But, like, look, smarter people might point out that, like, Derek Henry wasn't that much better than Deonti Foreman at the end of the year. Like, you know what? It's the divisional round or whatever we're going to call it, the quarter final. it is just fun to root for Derek Henry.

It is fun. It is wild that the best running back in the NFL has been forgotten, basically. What do you think this line would have been if Derek Henry was healthy all year? It would not be plus 325. I actually want to go back to what you said right off the jump, Craig, about how the Titans are probably one of the most forgotten number one seats ever. The Titans, this has been for three years. Like, D.K. and I, like, we have been covering football,

these entire Titans' resurgence with Ryan Tannhill. And to be honest with you, it's about as hard. as I've ever had a time like covering a team that's good because you don't really know what to say. Like they are flying in the face of everything that's supposed to be happening in the NFL right now. They are, I mean, this is a team that mounts like four minute comebacks by running the ball with Derek Henry. Like everything about this era of football supposed to be a passing and all these things. And they were like on a passing level efficiency with their running game and their play action and everything. And it just is so difficult to explain really how Ryan Tannehill has just.

been fantastic with them in this three-year run. And, like, they're also just kind of boring other than Derek Henry. Now, Derek Henry and A.G. Brown have made them less boring. But, like, they don't get any respect, honestly. Including for me. They don't have any personality. It's feeling Mike Vrable's the biggest personality on the team. Well, Henry, Henry has personality

with, like, his playing style. But, yeah, he's not a big personality off the field. No, and I just think everyone's on Burrow. I get it. I love Burrow. And could Burrow will his team to win here? Yeah, probably. He could go nuts and throw for 400 yards, and, like, they could win. But three and a half for the one seed here against a Angles team that's like, I don't know, before a couple weeks ago, like, have been pretty hot and cold.

And the Titans are all healthy. Like, this seems... I agree with you. I'm curious about maybe teasing the Titans with something, but I agree with you in the premise that the Titans are just better. Like, sometimes you're like, how are they the one seat? Well, they beat the Bills and the Chiefs. Back to back weeks. Back to back weeks.

And I do think that the Titans have been this way, though, for three years. Like, don't forget, like, they beat the Patriots and Brady's last game in New England. Like, they beat the Ravens. two years ago in the playoffs, they rocked the Ravens whenever we all thought the Ravens were going to go to the Super Bowl and the AFC

and the Titans kind of threw them off their game. Like Mike Vrable, if you actually look at the list of Belichick disciples, Mike Vrabel never coached for Bill Belichick, but he's kind of the only successful Belichick disciple,

even though he's not actually in the coaching tree. And like he's the only one that seems to have learned the lessons of like mounting your specific game plans to beat certain opponents. Like I have not seen anything from a healthy Titans team really in the last two years

that makes me want about. against them. So I actually agree with you, Craig. Remember that Titans' Chiefs game and the Titans' defensive line just dominated the game? Yeah, that is the one thing that worries me because the Titans have a huge advantage over the Bengals' defensive line, and that could really cause problems for Burrough.

That was like the only thing making me think, like, oh, maybe this isn't going to be the high-octane passing attack that I was kind of like picture. I said that would happen with the Raiders last week, and I was like mostly wrong. Yeah, they did a good job against Crosby. He wasn't a huge factor. Exactly. And so I'm wondering, Dick, how you think, the Titans defense compares to the Raiders because I think the Titans probably have better players

the Titans probably have a little bit better front but they have the same disadvantages in terms of like the back end I think and you know just Burrow and Chase they're so hot right now and then obviously like T. Higgins was kind of a non-factor in that game and like he could still go off in this next one and I don't know I don't know where I land honestly so I think I do agree with you that I think I am comfortable taking the Titans to win but I still want to bet on Burr. for some reason. I so want to bet that over. That's, I get it. I get the borough stuff. He's great. How can you not want to bet on it?

Okay. Well, um, so I agree with you, D.K. on the burrow overs. I agree with Craig on the Titans giving, what is it, three and a half? I like that. I'm hoping it comes up to three before Sunday and I'll bet it if people start hammering Cincinnati, but I don't think it will. Okay. And then we also have the Titans Bengals over, which I like. Okay. So, D.K., you said another one. I love how you buried Bill's chiefs, like, like we should save that for later instead of lead with. Save the best for last or something, or maybe just second. I don't know.

It's the most obvious game. I just wanted to, like, throw you a curve ball. Can I be honest? I don't want to bet anything in it. I have no feel feel feel feel. Let's talk about this. I think you're right. We are paid to, like, have thoughts on football.

I have no idea who's going to win Bill's Tuesday. I don't either. I don't know. It's like the best game of the year, honestly. Like, both teams are extremely hot right now. Both, like, two of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, if not the two best. Obviously, you've got Brady and Aaron Rogers still, whatever. I'm not going to say that these two guys are better.

I think the thing to do in this game, since this is dumb bets or the worst bets or whatever it is we're branding this. I think you don't even know the title. Well, they're synonymous, dumb and worst, you know. I came up with a couple long shots that I think would be really fun for this game. All right. Okay. Both teams to score 35 plus is 11 to 1.

That's not bad. Oh, my God. I just think that's fun. Plus, you can root for a shootout. another good one I found no team will score three unanswered times and that's plus 220

so in other words you're expecting teams to like go back and forth like not one team dominate it's it's plus 120 I don't like that didn't the chief just score five touchdowns in nine minutes or ten minutes or whatever yeah but that wasn't against the bills

I know but the chiefs do that the chiefs are streaky yeah but that wasn't against the bills I want to make sure I heard that right so it's that no team will score three consecutive times and it's plus 120. Plus 220. Plus 220?

I think I love that bet. I don't like that because I think what you're forgetting is like a turnover. Kind of like a turnover in like field goal range screws that up pretty easily. Right. I understand how that works. I kind of like the 11 to one both over 35 more. You want to hear the best one? The best one.

Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. 10 plus passing touchdowns combined. What the f? plus 2,000. That's not a good bet. That's not even good eyes. That's like ridiculous. That should be a hundred.

I'm not going to bet it. I just think it's funny. I think I realized I had no idea who's going to win this game. Did you guys hear Mitchell Schwartz, who used to be the starting tackle for Kansas City, like when they won the Super Bowl. And he went on Rosillo's show this week.

And Rosillo was like, I'm not going to ask you for your, should I do the Rissila impersonation? I can't do it as well as you, Craig. You got to go really deep. Yeah, get deep. I can't, no, I can't do it. Craig can actually do it. for your sorry you go go ahead

what do you say uh well should I let's see if I can do it let's see if I can pull out of herself I already know this is going to go terribly it's terrible no I can't do it person I mean you still I'm so bad at them Riscilla was like I'm not even to ask you for your pick

I'm not going to ask you for your pick because you know I know I pick the chiefs and he was and Mitchell Schwartz who played for Kinski was like ah I don't know bills are pretty tough and I was like oh my god this guy played on the chiefs but it's true like the this matchup so here's my proposal for this matchup because obviously like the bills are coming off one of the perfect game seven touchdown drives and then they you know mealed the chiefs of the chiefs i have a crave this is truly deserving of the word worst bets a three team teaser on this game so three team teaser you can move the line by 10 points each way right now the line has dropped from the chiefs the chiefs are favored by i believe one and a half right yeah uh no yes yeah one and a half so

three team teaser move the line both ways. So the bills getting 11.5. Okay. The Chiefs getting 8.5. And the under, or sorry, the over, you move it down over 44 points. So you're moving everything by 10. And basically what you're saying is 44 points will be scored and neither team will lose by more than one score, one possession.

So one possession game over 44 points. And you can do that with three team teaser. Sure. Does that make sense? Do you understand what I'm saying? That's not a terrible bet. It's kind of fun. It is fun, right?

Yeah. Because you're rooting for a close game with points. Close game with points. 44, that's going to hit, obviously. Obviously. Obviously. You just need it to be anything basically over 2420. 2421.

Anything bigger than 2421, and that's like not. That is a one possession game will win. So anyway, that's what I like from this. Because I don't know what the hell's going to happen. So it just needs to be an eight point game or less and score more than 44 points. Is that right? Yes. And that will win.

either direction, eight points. Yeah, I kind of love that. Yeah, right. Isn't it the best way to watch this game, though? Yeah, you're rooting for points and you want to be close. Yes. I think that works for everyone, no matter what side of it you want. Because, to be honest, I kind of think everybody wants to pick the bills and thinks the bills can win. Obviously, recency bias is a factor. But I think we're all just afraid of Mahomes.

Like, like... Yeah. You know what I mean? For good reason. I think the bills are a better team, like, across the board, like, defensively. Like, put all together, I think the bills are better. But I'm still just, like, afraid to bet against Mahomes. You just have no idea if he's going to go nuts.

He had five touchdowns and 400 yards against the Steelers. No one even talked about it. It's like it just flew under the radar. He pointed this out. Ruiz pointed this out before that he had a, even by his standards, like this incredible performance against the Eagles. It wasn't like what the bills did, but the chief score like five touchdowns on like seven drives. And like he didn't get a highlight video from the NFL YouTube account. Right.

Through five touchdowns. I really do think the stuff could. Curry comparison is apt because nowadays like Steph have eight threes in a game, nine threes in a game they don't talk about it on SportsCenter, they don't talk about it anywhere and that is exactly like my homes now. When I see

400 and five touchdowns I'm like all right you got a good game. Yeah exactly the bar is just so high. Okay so I that's, does anyone have anything else of Bill's Chiefs because I think that's my favorite one is just that three team teaser where it's just anything over 44 points and with an eight point

spread. No that was my stay away game. But I love your bethyphs. I'm down for that. Okay. The only prop that I thought stood out is Dotson Knox over 31 and a half receiving arts. He's been like one of Josh Allen's favorite targets lately. Making big plays too. Not bad actually. Yeah.

So that one just stood out to me. It's like I don't have like a really in-depth analysis on it, but like it just seems to me like he's going to be a big part of this game. But does sound like a low number for Dalsan Knox, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We'll keep that one in mind. Just a vibes pick. I like Rams plus three. first Tampa. Really?

Yeah. Why? Well, one, Rams are playing really well, and the Bucks just beat the Eagles, which kind of means nothing. But like,

the Bucks are just so hurt. Like, Worf's hurt. Jensen's hurt. Like, they don't have any receivers anymore, so Jalen Rames, he's going to shadow Mike Evans.

Like, I don't know if Gronks super healthy. I just, like, don't think they have a lot going for them right now as a team. Obviously, Brady's Brady, but, like, the Rams are kind of firing

on all cylinders right now. Like, Vaughn Miller's playing really well. Like, you know, he comes. kind of took the regular season off, and now he's like, Fawn Millie's kind of doing the... Activate playoff mode.

You know, he's kind of in LeBron mode or you take days off, and like, they just have everything working. And I was debating, just picking the money line, but the Brady stuff scares me. So plus three Rams, I think these two, I mean, they beat them in week three. The Rams beat Tampa Bay in week three

when they were much more healthy. So... I like it, honestly. I'm kind of into this one. I have a question for D.K. here, because I think that what I don't like about the Bucks Rams this week is not what I don't like. What confuses me is that I think it violates my two, like my two biggest gut check

the priorities in betting a playoff game or really just who I think will win are against each other here. Number one, it's like you look at the coaching staff and the quarterbacks and like, do you really want to, like, visualize yourself rooting for like them. And it's like Brady Stafford, Stafford just has not been that guy to me in these big moments. And Brady has been that guy for like, I mean, almost my entire life. Right.

And that matters to me a lot. And I also think a lot about what D.K. said about Alexander the Great. And, like, people would go into battle with him and think he was literally invincible and he wouldn't die. Right. And that confidence. And then the opponents think Alexander the Great couldn't die. And it actually, like, psychologically messes with you.

I do think Brady is there and that there is a psychological opponent when Brady's on the field. Having said that, my second biggest priority is what Craig said in the healthy teams usually win. Right. The healthy teams, you get to the point where it's close enough. I do always want to side on the side that's healthier. because not injured guys usually are more hurt than you think. Like all these guys are dealing with so many injuries that they don't talk about and they don't tell anyone.

And like when you have as many guys hurt as the bucks have, I don't like to pick those teams. And that's, I err on the side of Brady, but it's honestly just a very simplistic analysis. So like I don't know, my gut has been, I want the bucks and the Brady side of it. But I see what you're saying.

Maybe this is the, I think this is the Kistanza bet of the week. Is it picking the ramps? No, I can't bet against, Brady though. Like, I cannot bet money. Oh, that's what it's Costanza. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you have to pick, you have to pick what playoff narrative you want to go with here, because there's a couple narrative or like cliches, I would, I should say about like Brady. Like obviously Brady clutch factor. He's, he's the most clutch quarterback of all time,

the most winning playoff quarterback of all time by far, like by double. Um, so there's that, which is very easy to buy into and what I have said, basically, it's like, why would you want to bet against Brady? Um, however, like, the other big, like huge, playoff cliche is like the best the winning teams are just the healthiest team at this time of year. You know what I mean? And obviously the Rams have some injuries.

You know, it's not like they're coming into this totally healthy, but the Buccaneers are like devastated right now. Potentially offensive line especially, but you know, obviously past catchers running guys back though. Yeah. So. I'm curious if you think about like Todd Bowles and the Bucks defense schematically

against Stafford because I just, honestly, Stafford has not earned my trust. Like I know that they just The Cardinals. But I think that just like we kind of throw out the Bucks Eagles one, like the Cardinals, I mean, the Rams are just physically larger than them. The Rams kind of just bullied them. And I think that that was just not the kind of game they're going to get against Tampa Bay and the defending Super Bowl champions versus a Cardinals team that's never been to the playoffs.

I feel like we just need to bet the unders on everything in this game. Just bet the unders on everybody. It's over under right now. It's 48. I was looking last night. Brady's over under on yards is 200. 86.5. You think that's high?

You think he's going to pass for 286? That just felt a little high to me. I understand he, like, led the NFL on passing. I get that. Well, I think a lot of that is depending on if four net plays. I don't, they really don't have any running game right now. Like, so if four net's out, Brady probably will throw for that many yards. I don't know.

I'm not, there's no, like, Brady stat. I'm going to provide you guys that's going to convince you to bet against him. I'm not going to be, well. No, that's the thing. I can't be rooting against Brady. The Titans beat him two years ago when he's on the Patriots. Like, I can't. You bet against.

You were trying to go early on Belichick, bet against Belichick. Early on Brady. Go early on Brady, baby. Well, the Patriots did that. It didn't work. Okay. So we're pretty tepid on this is what I'm hearing.

Yeah. I mean, the one I had written down was Brady under 286. I also thought that if we want to go like the other way, Rob Groski, Rob Garcowski over 66.5 yards receiving. I feel like he's just going to feed Gronk. Six is high.

I know that, but like, who else do they have? Mike Evans is going to be playing, but Jalen Ramsey probably going to be locking up with Evans quite a bit. Not always, but. I just think Grong props are terrible bets because it's like he's so famous and people love the bet on him that like the numbers are just like the touchdown. Like there's no value in like gronk touchdown things. It's basically like even money every time.

That's fair. That's fair. All right. So we're not doing anything in that game then. Well, we'll save it for the bets moot. All right. Whatever the hell that is. The other, yeah, we're going to do, we're going to do bets. We're going to wrap about what our action.

Betts are at the end of the bet spout now. Packers Niners is this last game here we haven't discussed. I've thought about this a lot and I want to have the Packers. Like what I want to bet on, I want to bet on Green Bay. I want to bet on Air Rogers. I want to bet on a better quarterback. And like, whereas I'm like very confident in Brady and not that confident in Stafford, I'm so confident in Rogers, like for different reasons, a Brady ask, I'll give him like a nine and a half, 10 out of 10, right? Jimmy, I'm so not confident in Jimmy. And while I don't, I understand that Shannon tries to minimize him, I can. cannot have Jimmy in this game for me.

Like if the Cowboys had done anything on that final drive and they had wasted the time, if they had caught up, we would be talking about how terrible Jimmy was at the end of the game. Missing wide open people, making mental mistakes. I understand he's got two injuries right now that he says are equally extremely painful. That doesn't make me feel better that, oh, I didn't miss it because I'm inaccurate. I missed it because I'm so hard. I can't really throw the ball where I want to put it.

Like, I just have seen Jimmy make so many mental and or whatever physical mistakes just with basic things, and Rogers is playing at such a high level, and we were just talking about how Tennessee is this very underrated one seed. Sal has been talking about that, this on Bill's Pot all season. The Packers have done nothing but performed since week one. They got blown out week one, which is essentially the preseason now. They got rid of the preseason games, like training camp can't hit as much. Week one's the preseason, like for these guys. Since week one, the Packers have just been in money, like literally and figuratively. Pretty much. They haven't covered in three of their last four games, but before that they were like easy,

money. You're right about that. The Packers, I just think, are playing at such a high level. And you talk about health. That's the thing that the two one seats have in Com of Tennessee and Green Bay. They're getting their guys back. Like, we'll see how good David Bakhtiaris at left tackle. But like Green Bay is getting back. We'll see how many of them do suit up again. It's Wednesday. Like we'll see if Zedarius Smith and like Jarre Alexander where they're at how much they're actually able to play. But like I think this Packers team is just better. And like the coaching matchup is good. But Rogers versus Gropolo like I know they're not in the same

field together. And sometimes this is reductive. but like I am so much more confident in Rogers than I am in Gropa. I cannot in any way. So what do you like? Because I agree with you. I think I like the Packers in this game, but are you going to lay the points,

lay six? So here's how I think about this. I think the way I want to attack this weekend, I think I kind of want to do a, I want to do a couple things. I do actually want to just take the Packers giving the points, but I think we don't know how we allocate our units. What are we doing?

Portions, shares. Nuggets, nuggets. Nuggets. The Nuggets is how I want to do my nugs. But I think that I want to do a Bucks Packers money line parlay Just betting on Brady and Rogers to rematch in the NBC Championship game Because I do think they're better and just betting on that rematch gets you It's like plus 130 so you put a dollar down you get one 30 back

I think bucks packers money line and I kind of like teasers too Like if you tease the Packers and the bucks Depends what line you get in the bucks but basically it means the Packers just have to win the game And the bucks basically just depending on the line you get just have to basically lose by a field goal or win the game. But I kind of like pairing Rogers and Brady. So these,

Jimmy and Rogers have played. They played in week, I don't remember, four, three. September, week three or four, yeah. And remember that game is 30 to 28, the Packers won, but. Oh, it's incredible, yeah.

But the Niners didn't run the ball because Eli Mitchell was out. Debo didn't have a carry, I don't think. And like, Tray Sermon was there starting running back? He had like 30 yards. So I wonder if how the Niners treat this game is just completely different this time around. Like, Jimmy threw it 40 times when they first played.

I wonder if this is the exact opposite. Yeah, really? And this is like when they played two years ago when Jimmy throws the ball nine times and they just try and beat the hell out of them on the ground with Debo and Eli Mitchell. Yeah, I was trying to find some rushing props for this game because I think that the

49ers just going to run the hell out of the ball. And that's like the main vulnerability for the Packers, but I couldn't find any. If you guys found any, let me know. It's because of the Jimmy injury. Well, I think it's because of the injuries. There's so many injuries the Niners you're doing one. So I think the thing with the Niners,

and what makes this an interesting matchup is obviously Rogers is like petty and like not over. San Francisco not drafting him first like forever ago at this point. But also the Niners have beaten them in the playoffs three. Like they've knocked the Packers at a playoffs three times the last 10 years. They knocked them out of the NFC championship game two years ago, which started Rogers's frustration with this Packers team because he wanted to get a home championship game.

And now he's able to do that and they've gotten that. So he has the home championship game. lose it to San Francisco again after kind of vowing that they needed home field I think that would be very interesting but like I there's just something about the Niners there's something weird about the Niners right I don't ever want to bet

against them well you know why they just pummel you that's why shout out to Ben Solick go to the ringer.com if you have time Ben Solek wrote a piece about Debo Samuel that is like unbelievable and great about how Debo's been and I like this line Solick had where he basically said Debo he's like thunder and lightning you know what I mean

and like he's he's kind of like smoke until he wants to become stone and it's true but like the way that they're using he's poetic but that just like is perfect

encapsulation yeah so I kind of want to do I want to bet on the Packers but I would do all the Debo overs even though those are also probably terrible terrible values

that would be very fun for Debo okay should we bet smooth now do I have anything else to pitch? All right I've got a few other dumb ones that I would like to throw out

because that's sort of my corner so these are divisional round special Craig, division round. Sorry about that. I know it's a stupid now. AFC, so you can bet on who's going to score more points.

AFC teams or NFC teams. The AFC's favored by six and a half, so it's minus six and a half for AFC. So to recap, Bengals, Titans, and Chiefs, Bills in the AFC, and then it's 49ers Packers and Bucks Rams. You definitely want to take AFC, right?

I think I want to take the AFC covering that, yeah. I just think it's fun. I don't have like any strong. I'm not trying to think about like eight different offenses playing eight different defenses. It's a lot of variables here. That's fun though. I like that. Yeah.

So let's take the, I want to take the AFC on that. I just feel like that has, the Chief Spills particular has like the best chance of going like ballistic. But I also like I said before like the Bengals times I think would be a higher scoring game than we think. And then let's see here. What else is there? Oh,

this is a good one from Fandul. Any offensive linemen to have a receiving. touchdown on divisional weekend is 9 to 1. Just rooting for a thick 6 right here. Is what I'm going for. There were two last week.

It's like kind of common lately. I mean, I don't... I think they did that one to just like make fun of the other team they were playing. But I also think you put it on tape. Yeah, I think the bills also want to put it on tape because then now when you actually need to get the yard,

they're thinking about like how will I cover this lineman and then the linemen just runs you over and they run for the yard. Oh yeah, Hyphus, you tweeted that out, like, he threw down, who was it? T.J. Watt! Yeah, kind of a good player. And then he scored a touchdown. Yeah, defensive player of the year, probably, yeah.

Okay. That was crazy. All right, let's bet smooth here. Okay. Yeah. So to recap, DK, we, D.K likes the Titans bangles over. Mm-hmm. I also like the under for Tampa Bay Rams. Under for Buck's Rams. Okay.

Do you guys like either of those? how you feel about those can I be honest can I can we is this a safe space I think so I rarely feel confident or non-confident in any over-under

I mean I think that's fair I never feel good about an over-under no matter what I bet over or under I'm just like I don't know this doesn't feel right I'm so much more comfortable betting spreads and funny life stay away from it

yeah that's fair we can just we don't have to do those by any means I've got I'd almost rather just do some of the other fun ones don't let him talk out of it these are worst bets okay so dk you like burrow over

burrow over 275 yards no score unanswered three times in this buck's bill's chiefs game i'm gonna run through the ones that we can actually combine together maybe though okay so the the bengles titans over 47 Craig likes the rams giving three yeah i kind of was on the other side of that no no sorry the rams getting three right rams getting three and then you also do you don't really have a feeling on any of the overrunners no i like

I basically think that any iteration of the Bills, Chiefs, and the over will work if you throw it in a teaser. D.K., what do you think about Hivefitz's like a weird spread manipulation bet? Because I like that one. I want to come up with the bets that we all agree on. He was saying it's going to be over 44 and then within seven points or something. What was it? Within eight and a half, I think, or eight? Yeah, so essentially one touchdown game or less in over 44 points.

I'm into that one. High Fids, we got, because it's going to. go over 44. So we're essentially just betting on the games within a score. Okay, bet smoot, it is decided. Bill's Chiefs, my weird-ass thing where we're going to do, the Bill's Chiefs and the over. So that's nice.

So that's Bill's getting 11 and a half, Chiefs getting 8 and a half, and the over 44 points. If you think, if you believe in that one, High Fitz, I don't understand why you don't believe in my no team will score three unanswered times in that game. Because you're essentially saying it's going to be a closed game. I feel like the chiefs do that all the time is why. You're saying it's going to be like a back and forth game.

It's going to end up. within one touchdown. The only thing is going to be like... I think the Chiefs... I mean, I'm just thinking about two years ago, the AFC championship game, the Chiefs had zero points in the first half against the Patriots

and then like 31 in the second half. So you're gonna do that because two years ago, something happened? No, I think they do it because I think they do that every two weeks. I'm just saying that just because these teams are really good

doesn't mean they can't be streaky for like a quarter. You know what I mean? DK, the hard thing is that like the chiefs could have back-to-back scores in the second and then it goes to halftime and they get the ball back in the third.

Yeah, exactly. That's the only thing. However, I'm still on Team D.K. With that bet. I like it. I like it a lot. Two to one. Bet smooth. You're out, Haifitz.

So do you guys like the, do you guys agree that the Packers are going to win? Because the other one I wanted to do is combine the Packers with the Bills and or the Chiefs for a two-team teaser. Where, again, it's like a one possession game for Chiefs bucks, or sorry, for Chief's bills, and the Packers just have to win. I agree. Were you guys afraid of the Niners? I'm afraid of the Niners. Well, then let's just... Deke is afraid of the Niners.

Why don't we just do Packers? money line. So kind of staying away from the Packers, though, is what we're saying. I picked the Packers to win the Super Bowl for what it's worth,

but I'm still afraid I'm afraid of the Niners. Well, then we should pair the Packers' money line with something if we don't want to deal with the spread.

If we don't want to fuck with the spread. I had the Packers money line with the Bucks money line, but we don't really even agree on that. I think D.K., are you team Rams or Bucks?

I'm sort of on the fence on that one. I think the Rams could, it's tough because like everything we talked about with Brady, but like I think the Rams are just healthier right now.

It is very difficult to trust Stafford in this situation though. Okay, how about this? I got a second question. Do you guys feel more comfortable with the Chiefs getting like seven points

or the bills getting like nine to win that game? Like, whose spread would you want to inflate in that game? I'm pretty confident in the bills getting nine because the Chiefs, I feel like I would be really surprised

that the bills couldn't, if the bills got lost by more than double digits. Right. I think I agree with that. Well, so why don't we do, Why don't we tease Packers' Packers' Bills? I'm down to tease Packers' Bills,

but D.K. is kind of skittish about the Niners. So what, wait, wait, D.K. like the Bengals Titans over. I just want to put it on the record that I'm skittish about the Niners, but I'm comfortable betting on the Packers. So wait, so how about this? D.K. Like the Bengals Titans over.

So why don't we do, we tease the Bengals Titans over with the bill? So it's Bengals Titans over 41. Nice. So 2120, whatever would be, or anything over that. Yes. And then we do that with the bills getting, what is it, seven and a half.

I like that, actually. Okay. I'm into that. I'm into that. And we can also move it up to a seven-point teaser if we give up some juice and make it eight and a half. Yeah, I like that.

Okay, do you want to explain what we just did to the lay person because we did get email saying, thank you for explaining what we're doing when we're teasing and stuff. For people that don't like that a lot. So teasing, what you do with a teaser is you combine two things.

And a parlay is like the Packers will cover and the bucks will cover. cover and it's unlikely that both happens so I want even more money if they both happen. That's a parley. A teaser is when I'm like, okay, the bucks and the Packers are both going to cover, but I'm not that confident. So I'm

going to move the line. Give me six points and I'm going to move the Packers from five and a half point favorites. And then instead, actually, instead of giving five and a half points, the Packers are getting a half points. You move the line by six. And then you can move the line by six with the bucks, too.

So instead of the bucks giving three, bucks are getting three. Those both have to cover. Now they give you the six points because you get paid less if you win. So whereas a parley is paying you like, depending on what it is, two, three, four, five times your money,

they're actually giving you less than what you give. So if you give ten bucks on a teaser, they're probably depending where you're going to give you seven, eight bucks back on profit. But you're trading certainty and like profit. You're trading profit margin for like certainty. Right, right.

By moving the lines. So that's why it's fun. Bottom line, it's like harder to get a parlay because you're guessing two different things. thing. So basically you're boosting, hopefully you're making your odds better of getting it right, but you're not going to win as much.

What we're doing here is we're basically saying we think Chief's Bill's is high scoring and it's close. So if we do this for Cocta, and that's the Yiddish word for it. It's for Cocta three team teaser. Bill's getting 11 and a half. We're moving the lines. Bill's getting 11 and a half. Chief's getting 8 and a half over 44 because we moved all three by 10.

Then we're also going to do two team teaser on the bills. We're giving the bills six extra points. So what is that? Seven and a, or no, that's, yes, seven and a half. Titans, Bengals, over 42. I don't know if I'm speaking English. So that means we have two bets here, but we have bills in both.

Are we worried about that? Do we want anything that doesn't involve Buffalo? This is classic. This is classic. It is. That's exactly what it is. We're like, oh, the bill's the perfect game.

But it's perfect, though. I mean, what is the name in the show, right? This is exactly what we did. Didn't Bill's Zimm's right? Like, 20 years ago, don't overreact to the previous round. That's like in the manifest and everything. So we need a non-bills bet.

We need one more. We need a non-bills. Tennessee straight up. I kind of like that. Spread. Tennessee spread. Three and a half. The three and a half is, ah, yeah. So they're covering that. You want to lay the points. That's what I would bet.

But the problem is the Titans, even when they win, it's always by a field goal. Spiritually. Well, I mean, you can take the money line, but it's minus 185. It's not great. Should we do the Titans money line? See, you like the Rams. We really are different sides of all these games. So it makes the Bet smooth hard. It's not easy to pick a king.

So nobody here likes Titans minus three and a half of me. Is that right? No, I do. No, I do. which is the Titans, if they win by field goal, I'll be so not surprised at all. No, I think, yeah. I mean, I do think the Titans will probably end up winning this game, but it's close.

If we also, since every Titans game's close, we also could do the same and same thing and do the Titans, we could do the same teaser with the Titans Bengals and move that line by six each way. Give the Bengals nine and a half. We should just do it for every game. We should do it for every game

and just hope they're all close to the opposite of the wild card round. If we had done that last week, we would have been so gone because all the games were terrible. Yeah. Is there a way to tease, the Rams and Titans together?

Yeah, you could tease them both up. You could, uh, if you, if you threw a six and a half point T's, you could get the Titans to plus three and you could get the Rams to plus nine and a half. If you want to do seven point T's, you'd get the Titans to three and a half and in the Rams to ten. That's not bad. I want to do that? You want to do a seven point two team teaser?

Yeah. Yes. Which we're giving up juice. We're giving up money. Okay. So Titans getting Titans. What do we just say? No, I'm even, it's Tennessee getting seven and the Rams getting seven, which I can do that

right now. I can plug that. I like that. You guys are writing these down, right? Because I have terrible. So the odds on that are minus 140. How do we feel? Screw it. Let's just do it. Nice. Read the whole thing. I get the bet. Tennessee getting plus three and a half and the Rams getting 10. I like it. Let's do it. Okay. I like that. Do you want to, in addition to those goofy ones, do you want to throw in a few long shot ones? Like, Craig, you put the most rushing yards in the day, Henry. Yeah. Plus 325. I like that one. Yeah, I like that one too. Derek Kennedy. I want to do,

I really would like to do any offensive linemen to have a receiving touchdown because I just want to root for a thick six. That's so not going to happen, but all right. I know. I know. Okay. That is the, that is the dumb thing.

Just humor me. Okay. Also, I want to take AFC covering minus six and nine. I love that one. I love it. Those are my stupid ones, okay? And I'm just going to root for him.

Part of me is like, no, yeah, that's okay. All right. Yeah, AFC minus six. Don't think about it too much. No, I'm not thinking about it. We're just spending. We're just spending five bucks. I like these.

Okay. That was fun. Godspeed if people could hang with us for that. What's fun about the AFCNFD bet is the last game of the week Chiefs Bills? Yes. Oh yeah, it doesn't matter how much they're down.

Like, it's just, yeah, if we're down like 63, it's like, we can do it. Yeah, that's true.

That's great. Let's get to some emails. We got a lot of feedback on the last episode, guys. Yeah. Do I say the word penalty is weird? Yeah, you just did say it weird I just, I did it Penalties

Penalties. Okay, so we got so much feedback. People said that Hyvitz is penalized which I think is, he says penalized but he also says penalties, penalties. No, no, no, no. I now have like, you know when you, like, it's what D.K. said earlier about skirt and it's like, if you say a word and then you say it too much, now I'm doing this

and I think I say it three different words, ways. I say penalties. Like, penalties. It's very nasally the way that you say it. Pountties. I definitely say pounce. Pouncees. Penalties? Pounties. Oh my, I don't know how I said. I don't like that. I have penalties. Just say penalty. Penel. Penel. Like say the word pen. Say the word pen.

Penn. Yeah. Penalties. Penalties. There you go. That sounds so weird. You just try and say it too quickly because you had three cups of coffee today. Pantalties. You're like, Pounties. What is going on? A lot of people emailed us and like we're tweeting of me. We're like, what was I? Because I talked about the Cowboys. People were like, what's, People thought I was having a stroke. I'm not kidding.

Did I mention it on the show? Because I literally had that thought while you were saying. No, no, no. People were adding us on, like, social media. And you're like, oh, so it wasn't just me. Like, I didn't want to call them out. I, okay. So anyway, if you were listening to last week's episode or this week's episode,

you thought that I said that weird, then you're not alone. By the way, I want to plug right now while we're doing it. You get, as you know the name of the guy. It's like the accent king or something like that. He does these YouTube. Accent Daddy. He does these YouTube videos. No, that's not his actual name.

That's what we call him. Correct. Oh, that's just what we call them at the ringer accent. That's a private thing, because. That's what the ringer slack calls this guy. It's not his official name. Don't Google accent. Don't Google that.

Anyway, he does these videos that it basically explains the history of where accents come from based on, like, you know, obviously, migration is maybe not the right word. Migration patterns of human beings into the Americas and how it all mixed together where it came from like England and different parts of England, Scotland, Ireland, Scotland, Ireland. how they all mixed together and made these weird-ass very specific regional dialects like Pittsburgh's dialect is specific to Pittsburgh and blah blah, blah. Anyways, very interesting, and I'm just thinking,

I'm just picturing like what Hafeitz's little mix of accents is and that makes them say penalties. Pounties. Is that what I sound like to you? Pounties. Is that what I sound like to you? I mean, a little. It's a little nasely.

I didn't notice it, to be honest. I'm not good at. Craig's like, okay, we're moving on. Shout out, we also talked a lot about the bills and people recommending that the bills take Viagra to be in the cold. Yes. We got emails from people saying

Chad Otrusinko has been talking about this forever. Didn't know that. We also had real doctors emails. Shout out to all the doctors who emailed us. Thank you so much. I'm going to read a brief one from Meul who wrote in with a very good concise explanation saying,

hello, he says, I'm an internal medicine resident in Chicago. love the show, been listening all year, and just listen to Monday's episode with Bart Scott talking about Viagra for Josh Allen. I can't by reading that. It's hilarious. Viagra causes dilation of our blood vessels

by blocking PDE5. This allows for our body's smooth muscles to relax and increase blood flow. The blood vessels in our lungs respond similarly to blood vessels in the penis. And when we block PDE5 with Viagra, more blood flow equals bigger erection. However, that mechanism only really applies

when we're sexually aroused, aka Viagra that typically prescribed a dose should provide erections only if you're horny. Got it. However, as it happens, as you tend to see, different doctors, I noticed this since I became a father, by the way.

Like, there was literally no one piece of advice for, for, like, how to take care of a baby. Like, if you have any question on taking care of a baby, there's, like, 13 different prescribed methods by doctors. Like, oh, doctors say, this. Doctors say this. Doctors can't agree on anything. We're not talking about raising a child.

So I'm going to read a couple more emails because we did have quite a few emails on this. And thank you for all the doctors and the ancillary doctor. I think we just besmirched all of our goodwill with all of the medical community. Every episode you just end with us asking a medical question. Listen, there's a few different explanations. I think we should go through them real quick. So Daniel, a doctor, points out that it might not be the best thing to go and play. in tight pants after taking Viagra. He says, think of it how we were during high school if any little thing sets off an erection,

the way the pants moves, seeing the cheerleaders, anything. A narb. That could take a while to calm it back down, which I don't think is the best way to play in the middle of a playoff game. You guys know what a narb is? No apparent reason, boner. For the league, they have fear bones. I have not heard that.

You never have a narb? All right. Anyways, he says still there's a potential benefit for taking it in cold conditions, and this is me talking, Danny. maybe this is where Bart Scott got this information. Daniel says, Viagra has been using clinical trials

for situations where you might need a little more blood flow. There's a condition called rain-islews wearing cold temperatures, the blood flow to the extremities. I have that. It gets so limited that they get really white, can be painful, and be very numb. I have to wear socks while I'm...

I'm literally wearing socks while I... Highford's me too. I actually... I have terrible circulation. My fingers and toes are always cold. You know what we should do for these pops. There we go. Maybe you guys...

We're going to have to turn off to video for these if we're starting to do this. I'm not packing that much, D.K. All right, all right. I don't know what you think I got going on. Keep it above the shoulders. Speaking of that, did you guys see the tweet from the Portland Pickles?

The what? Minor League Baseball team. Okay. Excuse me? The Portland Pickles. Can you guys hold on? I'll just hold on for one minute and we'll continue with this Portland pickle thing.

It's about the Portland Pickles. Okay. What is happening right now? I don't know. He had a shit-eating grin on his face when he left, though. Here we go. It's Portland Pickles at. He's got the hat.

Yes. So, my friend Michael Limbaugh, I hope he's listening to this, used to work for the Portland Pickles and was the mascot. What? Are you kidding me? He has worn that suit and knows the guy who was in it. Stop it. Unbelievable.

And he actually, he doesn't even live in California. He's on the East Coast right now. I saw him a week ago. He was out visiting. He's from San Diego. And we were talking about the Portland Pickles thing, how hilarious the mascot situation was. And he says it was 100% like an inside job.

Like they totally did it just to get the social media play. What is this photo? I don't even see this. So it's a, it's the Portland Pickles, which is, again, a minor league team. Not a minor league. It's like one of those in between. Independent. Yeah.

What did they tweet out? So I'm pulling up the tweet right now. He says, new phone, who diss. and it's a picture of the Portland pickle Like giving a thumbs up But in the picture, it's just cut It's just cropped so all you can see is like his chest region And the thumbs up looks like a boner

Hi Fitzgo to Slack, I just sent it to you And he in the in the tweet In the tweet Oh my God Hey listen this is the important part In the tweet they tagged a whole bunch of people They tagged Manscaped Skittles Bush's Beans

Beans Scott Weiner, Oscar Meyer, corn nuts, like Justin Dickmire. Oh my God. And then also randomly, Daniel Popper, the Chargers Beat Reporter for the Athletic. Which I think is the funniest thing in the world. And he was like, Daniel was like,

guys, I don't know why I'm tagged this. Because they pegged it. The pickles were like, uh-oh, like Mr. Pickle or whatever the guy's name is. He's going to take over our social media's for the day. And his first post was that. Your friend was the mascot. Correct. That is incredible. It was like a summer gig where he like right out of college, he moved to Portland and was

working doing like stuff for baseball and was working with this Portland Pickles team and literally wore the mascot for like a summer. We have gotten so off target here. That's why I got this hat. He said it to me. Incredible. This is outrageous. Anyway, so the bottom line is from Daniel, getting back to the Viagra. He says in theory this could be used in cold weather situations. However, Rob, another doctor, has a rebuttal to that

idea. Taking Viagra, he says, in the cold is a bad idea. The capillaries in your skin constrict, but this is on purpose. Yes, it makes your fingers and toes colder, but it keeps your blood in your core warm. Taking Viagra to counteract the natural response could increase the risk of hypothermia or

freezing to death. Are you saying that taking Viagra before a football game is not a good idea? So basically, the doses of Viagra can send enough blood to the skin and elsewhere, in parentheses, that there isn't enough to fill the heart and can cause dangerously low blood pressure. He says, basically, don't take a bunch of Viagra to stay cold, to stay warm in the cold.

That's a really weird thing to do. Just do normal thing, like wear gloves. Well, and they were drinking chicken broth, hot chicken broth. That seemed like a better idea. Yeah. Anyway, a lot of Viagra talk, but it was very informative. And now I feel like I know a lot about it. All right. Well, while we're getting experts to weigh in, and I'm just, you know, I'm so glad we can bring so much expertise to people's lives. Like, you know, we've got doctors. We've got tickle mascots. You can't get the same ones. We've got an email on Jerry World and the Sun

from Eric. As an architect, I'd like to chime in on the design issues of AT&T Stadium, which is Jerry World. One of the most basic lessons in architecture is orienting a building around the path of the sun. The sun obviously rises in the east and

sets in the west. Rule number one is to block afternoon southwest facing sun because it is harsh. And if you look at most stadiums, they are oriented north-south. So the long side of stadium blocks the late afternoon sun, but Jerry World is oriented east-west with a massive southwest facing window to eliminate glare on the jumbotron or the megatron, depending how stupid we are. God damn it. I'm continually baffled by the amount of experts we have to listen the show, doctors, hard-and-techs, lawyers. People with like real expertise in things listening

to us who have nothing. There was one guy that said one doctor who was like, yeah, we listen to this a lot. All the guys and the operating team, like he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a He's like, all of our operating team. Do people listen to us during surgery? Not during surgery. I don't think. He played music during surgery sometimes. He said, like, they have their own version of, like, Monday morning quarterback in the surgery, in the operating room. Are you serious? Yeah. That's really cool. Love it. If any of the doctors listeners in surgery, let us know.

I don't think you probably are allowed to do that. It's a good point. They definitely play music. Like, that's a thing. I think it would be, I think they're talking about this, like, around the water cooler. A podcast could, like, make you, like, laugh and, like, move your hand in the wrong way. So can music. It's music. Make it move. Yeah.

You gotta relax. It's an eight hour surgery. I feel like playing Beethoven is different than hearing us talk about Viagra. Yeah.

People are mad because we couldn't figure out the word Jumbo Trot. I had so many people get mad at me like literally angry at us.

A surgeon is just doing open heart surgery and he's like Jumbo Trots. It's Jumbo Trots. Jumbo Trots. You know what those fucking moments

where someone emailed us and was like listening to a podcast is the closest you'll ever be to being a ghost. Right. Because it's like

there's people like that are talking and like can't hear you and like shouting at them. Yeah, I was listening to a podcast where you know something they don't.

You know the answer that they're trying to come up with is the closest thing to being a ghost. You're just like Jumbotron and we just keep talking about it for like 30 seconds. Okay.

I think on that note, I think we've done enough. All right. So we're getting Bill's Chiefs close game. Right, right back. That's all. And we can't decide

on the bucks and the ribs. Cool. glad. We're afraid of the bet. No, we know what we're doing. Remember, Rams plus 10, Titans plus three and a half. Yes. Beautiful. All right, check out the ringer listener league on Fandul. The episode description has the link for that Fandall listener league.

Check us out. It's just $5. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Lourne. Lord. Thank you, Speedy West. Nope. I wait for Craig to say no, because I don't. I have never. It's old school. Speedy. Is that a person or is that a band?

I've been really getting into, like, less. Paul, he does these Hawaiian Luau style guitar stuff and then I found Speedy West through that. He's American pedal pedal steel guitarist. So it's like steel guitar.

I saw one of those last year. Those are amazing. Yeah, it's really cool. But he does a lot of like instrumentals. It's like guitar stuff. Speedy West.

Those guitars are so cool. Yeah. It's a great name for like a running back. Speedy West. Yeah, it's like speedy West was like a fifth round in Madden. Like you always have to draft that guy

because you can do Drake and he's a great point. D.K., you should watch the music box doc on Kenny G. Oh, I know. It's on my list. It's really good. You get a kick out of it. They talk about Stan gets in it and all your jazz boys.

Isn't he from Seattle too? There's a lot of Seattle. Yeah, he is. He still is in Seattle. Nice. Shut up music box. Kenny G. Stream it on HBO Max, baby. That's right. All right. Thank you, everyone.