The Ringer NFL Show - Training Camp Risers and News

Episode Date: August 2, 2022

OFFICIAL RINGER TOP 200 RANKINGS AND TIERS OUT NOW Training camp is officially underway, so we run through the biggest stories from around the league, including Deshaun Watson’s suspension, D.K. Metcalf and Deebo Samuel’s extensions, injuries to the Cowboys receiving corps, and more before running through the most hyped-up players after the first week of camp. Email us! [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Like an absolute unending stream of news has happened since we last recorded. We're just doing an entire episode basically of just training camp updates and training camp hype because so much has happened. So we're just going to get into it. Number one, obviously, as you've probably already heard, Deshawn Watson has been suspended by the NFL for six games. Sue Robinson, the mediator in charge, wrote that Mr. Watson's pattern of conduct is more egregious than any before reviewed by the NFL.

So Watson got a six game suspension. And that's kind of jarring to hear because, I mean, Calvin Ridley, the Falcons receiver, got a year-long suspension for gambling. DeAndre Hopkins got the same amount of games as Watson for PEDUs. Tom Brady got four games for suspending, for deflating football. So six games, kind of a weird number for Sean Watson. and honestly this whole process with Watson like this has been a very confusing

system it's like a completely brand new process and honestly we're all kind of learning the rules as we go here so just a couple things I wanted to clarify Watson settled 23 of the 24 lawsuits against them but this the decision isn't based on 24 counts the NFL only really brought four of the 24 forward so four is really what factored under this not 24 also I just want to be clear that

when the NFL ends up giving him a six game suspension It's not like court. It's not a civil court. The suspension length is derived from the collective bargaining agreement. It's the owners and the players union negotiate the rules of their workplace and they sign a document agreeing on the rules. So when Calvin really gets suspended for a year, that's the punishment that the owners and players union agreed. If a player gambles for a year, if gambles they get suspended for a year. It's a pre-negotiated punishment.

And so in the personal conduct policy, that's kind of what we're pulling from from Watson. So again, it's not really about fairness. about what they've already agreed on are the rules. And basically, what Sue Robinson hinted at in this decision is the NFL wrote some really bad rules. And that's basically all we're talking about here is Sue Robinson saying the NFL personal conduct policy is very poorly written and the NFL cannot give the suspension they wanted. The NFL wanted to give a 17 game suspension and the union wanted zero.

And the NFL apparently wrote their personal conduct policy very poorly. So that's why it's just six games. But what's next is it might not stay that. way. Without going too deep into this legalese that could change within 48 hours, Roger Goodell can essentially edit the six game suspension. It's a whole thing where the NFL can appeal to itself. It's very strange. But essentially, Goodell can just edit the suspension. And if he does that, there'll be a lot more lawyers and all this other stuff. We don't have to get into that right now. So for right now, where we stand is Deshaun Watson suspended for six

games. But Goodell can extend that. We will probably find out if they decide to, the NFL's to extend that suspension? We'll find out probably by this week. And then how many games the NFL pushes for? We might find out either late this week or very early next week. So we probably won't have to wait too long to get more clarity on this situation. It might drag out for a lot longer. It might end by next week.

So we right now are still expecting Watson to miss a bigger chunk of the season than six games. And we have ranked the Cleveland Browns players to reflect that. But we're going to have more clarity on this situation probably very soon. also today Alvin Camara the Saints running back had his felony battery case in Las Vegas. That has been postponed another 60 days. So the trial is now set for late September. Basically, it's looking more and more like Alvin Camara might get up. If he is suspended for this incident, it's looking more and more like it might get pushed to 2023.

Because the NFL is trying to levy suspensions after the legal process has played out. But it only takes this court case getting moved like, more time until Alvin Kamara could basically play all of the 2022 season. Never mind, obviously the legal process playing out can take a long time. So even if Kamara's suspended for this incident, it's starting to really look like that'll be a 2023 suspension. So Camara more likely than not probably playing a lot of 2022. Okay. Other news that happened from the last time we were recorded. Debo Samuel and D.D.K. Metcalfe, both signed massive contract extensions. Almost identical too.

So all these guys have the same agent. Debo, D.K., Terry McLaurin, and A.J. Brown, all the same agent. They're all from the same draft class. And they all kind of got a very similar deal. We want to talk Debo first? Because he's newer. D.K., your beloved, D.K., your guy. Your guys' call. Your guys' call.

Let's start with Debo. Okay. So, Debo got three-year deal, $72 million. Extensions, like $60 million guaranteed. There's rushing incentives in the deal. So basically, it gets a little more than half million dollars a year. If he has more than $380 rushing yards in his season. He barely had that last year.

so that one seems unlikely. And then Debo also gets 150 grand if he scores through rushing touchdowns in his season. So if he hits three, he's hitting like 50 grand a pop. Which last year he scored eight rushing touchdowns. By the way, that's not that much. I mean...

It's not that much at all. It's a lot for a normal person, but in $72 million contract, $150K is just like, hey, I showed up to practice today. Give me my $150K. Right. That's in the same range

just like what UFC gives for like fight of the night. Like, that's not that much. It's really for show. But basically, the Debo contract, the Debo contract hold in, hold out whatever thing, this is over. So basically, where do you guys feel, one, about Debo being used as a rush of the season and then just wider? Just does this change anything about your outlook for Debo this season, D.K.? From a fantasy point of view, no, it doesn't change anything other than the fact that we know now he's going to be playing for the 49ers.

Because there was this whole saga, this offseason where it felt like he maybe was going to force a trade. I don't know if he was just using that for leverage. I don't know if you said that today or not. I didn't hear that. You think he would just admit it? Yeah, I was doing it for leverage. Well, D.K. McAf admitted he was basically bluffing the Seahawks. So, because he was basically telling them I'm going to leave.

I'm sure he used the Russell Wilson trade as like a huge amount of leverage. But yeah, Devo at one point apparently requested a trade. They made things up or whatever. They offered enough money to, I guess he could bury the hatch in now. It's all good. And Shanahan came out and said basically, you know, they're not going to not. use him as a rusher. Like, he's this incredible, diverse weapon, a force multiplier that can line up anywhere in

the offense and do his thing. And so, like, they're obviously not going to stop using him that way. But I think if you read between the lines and if you kind of look at what the 49ers have done this offseason, number one, giving him this massive extension. Number two, drafting a big bruising running back in the third round and tie Davis prize. I think that kind of tells you, like, look, last year we used Debo more or less because we were desperate. All of our running backs were hurt.

It worked really well, but now I don't think that they're going to utilize him quite as much in that role. I think obviously he's good and he can do some really fun, exciting, and like dangerous things as a running back. But I think at the end of the day, he's a receiver and he's a really good receiver. And from a fantasy point of view, like, I think Josh Norse was pointing this out. He would have been like the receiver 10, even if he took away all of his rushing production. So he was like a damn good receiver. And he just also happens to be able to run the ball and scored a bunch of rushing touchdown. So it doesn't change my opinion. In fact, it makes me a little more bullish

for him going forward because I know that he's in the, he's in the offense that really fits his skill set. His year last year was kind of like the tail of two halves. The first season, or the first half of the season, his stat line is all receiving yards. And he had six carries in the first eight games. The second half of the season, his stats are all rushing yards. He had 53 carries in the remaining nine games. Yeah. And that's because all the running backs got hurt and they had to change things around. But I agree with you, D.K. I think he's obviously going to be much more of a receiver than a running back this year. I think they want him to be.

I mean, the financial incentives don't exactly say we're going to give you 100 carries a season. Right. So it doesn't really change where I'm ranking him, to be honest. I think he's still in that like wide receiver 8, 9, 10 range. We have him as the wide receiver 7 in our rankings, which will be updated today when people are listening to this August 2nd. Does anything about Trey Lance being the quarterback feel icky to you DK?

Are we just kind of over, like, are we so focused on Dibo being cool and, like, running back thing that we're not actually even really discussing that he is essentially a rookie quarterback. I know Tray Lance was in the NFL last year and played a couple of games, but he would be the second youngest quarterback in this year's draft. And we're not really concerned about that at all. I think there is, you know, there's a little bit of concern, but it doesn't sound like there's concern. Everybody in the media is in love with Tray Lance and think he's the second coming. He's had some up. He's had some up and downs in terms of training camp. Like there's been a couple days where where the beat reporters are like,

it was pretty rough, to be totally honest. Like he threw a bunch of picks, blah, blah, blah. But then like today, for instance, this is we're recording Monday afternoon. He had a good day. So I think you're going to take your lumps, but. On that note, on that note,

Jimmy Garapolo two years ago on the first day or the second day, like almost to the day two years ago, through six interceptions in practice, everyone was talking about how he probably should get cut, and then the 49ers made the Super Bowl. Yeah. And that's kind of like, the other thing about training camp is like, dude, this is what it's for. This is practice.

We literally are talking about practice. They're trying to get better. They're trying to push the envelope. He's trying to push the ball into tight windows, all that stuff. This is a good defense also, by the way, that he's playing out against. So people are putting a lot of weight to the fact that Kyle Shanahan is there. I think people are just kind of assuming, even if Trey Lance is not that good, that Kyle Shanahan offense will be constructed well enough that everything will be okay, that Debo will get his manufactured touches and that Trey

Lance can play in an offense, kind of constructed around him to where no matter what, he'll be kind of a top 12 option, even if he's good at quarterback or if he's not. Well, that's the beauty of the rushing thing. It's like, you can suck at throwing. You could still be a good fantasy quarterback. I think, though, the one thing I will say that it makes me excited about Trey Lance versus the Jimmy Garoppolo thing is like, yes, there's more variables here. Yes, there's like a lower floor, I think. But he pushes the ball vertically. So this could really change the complexion of their offense, like the way that they attack. down the field.

Like, he's going to throw vertical. He's going to throw aggressively down the field, whereas Jimmy G was more of just like a game manager type checkdown type guy. And I don't know. I just kind of trust Shanahan to like scheme it up, do a lot of play action, utilize the run game to kind of like set things up. I don't know. I just think there could be more efficiency in their offense down the field.

You know what I mean? It's completely unfair, but Debo's injury stuff just kind of freaks me out. He's played basically seven seasons between college and the NFL and like just banking on him to have the health. season he's had again just freaks me out a little says the guy who what do you have mcalfrey ranked second overall well mcalfrey's the best player in fantasy history by points per game so debo is like the best yards after catch ever he was the number two receiver last year doesn't it suck that we have to just constantly say oh yeah but he gets hurt a lot oh yeah he gets hurt a lot

injuries are fucking annoying like i just yeah i swear though i i've never seen a player have like more mixed reviews by actual beat reporters who are watching him play versus just glowing endorsements from all the fantasy people. Everyone's like, Trey Lans is going to be incredible. And every beat is like, he's in a mediocre day today. Yeah. Well, the problem is again, because fantasy's scoring is really dumb. And Trey Lans can be a bad quarterback. But if he runs for 80 yards and a touchdown, but they lose by 20 points. That's like, it used to go. KB2, Trey Lance. That's the garbage time king, baby. Jalen hurts. Remember? He has like four points going into the fourth quarter and then he finishes with 30. Also, what's that

stat hyphen that you always give about Kyle Shanahan with Nick Mullins? He was the second quickest quarterback to get to what was it? It was most passing yards in a quarterback's first career 16 starts. It's Mahomes and then Nick Mullins, right? Patrick Mahomes is the first, most passing yards

in the first 16 games of his career for Patrick Mahomes, then it's Nick Mullins and then I believe it's like Andrew Luck, Tony Roma, Kurt Warner. What the hell? That makes me feel bullish about later. And then Mullins went I don't even know where he went to like four different teams. They never did jack shit again. Is he on a team?

Is he in the NFL? I barely. So I put, I've moved Trey Lance up. I, I have him as my seventh quarterback. I thought about this a lot. And I've basically created my own tier of like Jalen Hertz and Trey Lance because

it's like there are so many good quarterbacks. You can just take Trey Lance and you have to think them early. But again, think about what I just said with Nick fucking Mullins. And then Trey Lance is out here like the number two pick in the draft. And I, or number three, I forget,

I don't know. Three. Three. And so the worst thing that happens is Tray Lance is hot garbage and you like still have Aaron Rogers. Yeah. But like if Traylance is actually really good, I think Trilance is going to be incredible. So I'm kind of starting to think Traylance will actually just be good. All right. Well, let's go from Nick Mullins to D.K. Metcalf. I don't know how we took that detour. D.K. Metcalf also signed his extension of $72 million. Good deal. I've gone back and forth, D.K. Metcalfe a bunch of times this season. D.K. Seahawks fan, rose-colored glasses.

How's D.K., how's D.K. going to do without freaking going from Russell Wilson to Gino Smith? I mean, not as good. Not as good. I mean, that's the bottom line. The quarterback play is going to be far worse. D.K. McCaff was a perfect fit with Russell Wilson because Russell Wilson would launch these moonballs down the field and give D.K. Metcalf the opportunity to just run past defenders. But if you look at some of the splits, you know, with Gino-Smith, when he was starting last year, he was still getting a good amount of volume. like he was getting a lot of targets.

There were different style targets. They were much shorter, in a much shorter area or whatever, it wasn't like as efficient. But I still think D.K. McCaff can be a good, like, fantasy receiver. I think he's an elite. Or he's, like, approaching elite level as like a talent and as a player. And I've, and High Fitz and I have gone back and forth on this because I think Hayfitz thinks he's a little bit overrated.

And I'm, of course, the Seahawmer, who thinks he's like the second coming of Randy Moss or whatever. But since he came into the NFL, he's been in the NFL. Three years. 2019? Yeah. Three seasons. He ranks 10th among all receivers in the NFL since he was drafted in yards.

He's fifth in touchdowns among all receivers since he was drafted. And that's tied with Cooper Cup, by the way. And he's seventh all time in the NFL's history and touchdown catches over any player's first three seasons. He is now, and the best part is, he is now the same age as Cooper Cup when Cooper Cup, was drafted into the NFL. Well, technically, when he started in the NFL, because he was 23 when he was drafted, but 24 as a rookie.

DK Backoff is 24 years old, and he scored 29 career touchdowns. He has over 3,000 yards. He's really fucking good. And, of course, people will say, like, oh, he's signing on to be with, like, the shitty Seahawks with no quarterback. And I get that.

I think that's understandable. But this is the exact kind of player. There's a team like the Seahawks need to retain an elite that's still ascending touchdown creator, Explosive Play Creator. Did you guys know that D.K. Metcalf is six months younger than Veles Jones, Jr.? I love that. That's so good.

Anyways, I think he's really good. I think this is a good deal for the Seax. I think it makes a lot of sense. And it's also a really great deal for Metcalf, who will become a free agent in theory when he's still in his sort of age apex, 27 and 28 years old. And so he can have this huge deal, get another monster, monster. deal before he retires. So I think it's good for everybody. And that'll be good because when he's 27, he'll get his nether contract. And then that's how old Brandon Whedon was when he was drafted.

So we can just keep doing that over and over again. Yeah, that is so bizarre. I think D.K. is one of the weirdest guys to rank this year. Totally. Totally. You know, he had an up and down year last year. D.K., you like to peg that he was actually pretty decent with Gino Smith, right? Because sometimes these number ones with bad quarterbacks just get peppered. Four for four has a really good, like, tool that allows you to look at like the numbers with a certain player also on the field. A couple of different places have this, but basically when Gino Smith was playing last year, his target rate dropped from 24 to 22 compared with Russell Wilson.

So his target rate dropped a little bit. But he actually averaged more receptions, more receiving yards, and more receiving touchdowns per game with Gino Smith. Oh, I'm sorry. Wait, before Russ got hurt or is that on the whole season? This is Russell Wilson versus Gino Smith start. starting. So when Gino Smith was starting.

I'm not going to lie. I feel like that's a little invalid because you've been thrown that at me all year and I didn't realize that that includes after Russ came back from 19 hours a day rehabbing his finger that didn't fucking work. And he came back and immediately had the worst four games that he's ever had. Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's fair. And again, it's a small sample too. I'm not saying he's going to be better with Gino Smith. The big change, though, really when you're looking at these numbers is the air yards is like half. He's not, he's he's getting half the amount of air yards versus playing with Russell Wilson. So they're not airing it out.

It's going to be more dink and dunk, but he's still good enough to get a lot of volume and he's still good enough score touchdowns. That's kind of the bottom line. I don't think he's going to be as prolific with Gino Smith as he was with Russell Wilson, to be clear. Hot take world. Thank you, D.K.

I know. But I do think he's good enough to be fantasy relevant and good in fantasy. So, you know, like Craig said, it's very hard to rank him. We've got him, where do we got him ranked? We have him ranked. I love that you just called him fantasy relevant. for D.K. Metcalf. Fantasy important.

He's a wide receiver 19. Which honestly feels right. Perfectly boring. Yeah. Okay. And by the way, I have him ranked the lowest of all you fuckers. So maybe I'm just trying to like...

You're just managing expectations. Yeah, I'm trying not to be biased maybe. But yeah, I still think he's definitely worse drafting. Okay, football is right around the corner and Fandall's sports book is here to help you make every moment more. Because right now,

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You nailed it. I'm going to, I got to do something to make people listen to that. Maybe I'll play some music under it. Wouldn't that be fun? I play yakety-sacks under you reading the disclaimer. I would love that. I'll reach out to our Fandle Rap. I'm like titillated.

I did that in one take. Okay. You nailed that. Thank you. Cowboys. A lot of news from Dallas. Okay. So obviously Dallas lost to Mark Cooper in free agency. They were top receivers.

So they got CD Lamb. But then the number two receiver, Michael Gallup, towards ACL in, I think January of this year. And then he basically just admitted it's not realistic to try to play in week one, which if Michael Gallup, I mean, remember, Jake Dobbins is out here just like absolutely roasting in Rapaport

for even suggesting you might miss week one. It's rare to, to see a player just like, I don't think so. I know. So like Michael Gallup's like week one, not. Like guys, can I tell you something? I'm a little worried about week two. You got to manage expectations.

I think this is good. Under promise and over deliver. That's the key. D.K.'s taking the over on Michael Gallup, I guess. Michael Galp's going to play week one. No, he's not. So, but then on top of that, Cowboys signed James Washington and free agency for Pittsburgh.

And James Washington was carded off today with a potential Jones fracture, which like basically, you know, a fractured bone in his foot. So that's really bad. Tough. Yeah. Yeah, the Cowboys' offense is looking less and less appealing by the day. The other receivers in the team, they have rookie Jalen Tolbert. They have Noah Brown. D.K., can you give us the scouting report on Jalen Tolbert?

Yeah, I mean, he was a guy actually that I compared, I think, to Michael Gallup. He's like a big outside guy. He plays like vertical. He's a small school guy, but. South Alabama. Yeah, like really productive. Played all four years there. But yeah, like he's in the Michael Gallup archetype, I guess,

like a big downfield jump ball guy that can take the top of a defense. But I don't know if he's going to be like a high volume guy. Even in an offense like this, which is lacking like other targets, I think they're just going to funnel it all to like C.D. Lamb. And this might even be good for Dalton Schultz. My boy. There's a world in which is in which this is good for Tony Pollard. Of course, that's maybe just wishful thinking.

But I want to see Tony. Paulard gets slot snaps, even though that never happens, and we talk about it every offseason. The Toyota Schultz, just consistent, get you from A to B. Yeah. I actually think this is bad. Guys, I got a hot take care, but I think not having good players is bad for real life and fantasy. I think this is bad. Yeah, yeah.

It's good for Citi, isn't it? Like, he's going to just get peppered. There's something about CEDY. Fantasy's so dumb. Our brains don't work right. I just think he's going to get hurt. I think he's kind of skinny. and I'm like, man, if he's the only guy

really catching passes and getting open and getting double-teamed and he's going to see like 140 targets, I don't know why I have no faith in CD Lamb in 17 games. Does that, does that tickle anyone's fancy there that take? I know exactly what you mean. I'm just like, I don't He's wiry. He's wiry. He's wiry. I don't trust it at all. He's not the only wiry receiver in the NFL.

Well, how many wiry receivers are like great? Well, should we make a list? Yeah, actually, I kind of do. How many? Seriously. All wiry. First team all wiry. Well, how wiry is CD?

So he's Justin Jefferson. You ever heard of this guy called Justin Jefferson? No, he's slithery. It's difference. Slithery. Have you ever heard of Deonti Johnson? Not saying he's great. He's not wiry.

Receptions. Yeah, he is. Have you ever seen him? No, he's not wiry. Deonton Johnson. He's 510, 183. Justin Jefferson is an inch shorter than CD and five pounds heavier. That's not very much.

Well, that's like water weight. maybe I'm out on Justin Jefferson now also DK CD's CD's like four inches taller than Deontay but has like eight more pounds okay fine Deontay Johnson I'll throw him out he's not like elite anyway but I mean let's be honest

all of fantasy opinions are based on if you had that player recently and how they perform that year is directly how it affects your future predictions of them oh yeah obviously I had CD last year he kind of got banged up a lot he left a lot of games halfway through and now I just think injury prone, but is that a rational thought? Perhaps not. I mean, there's not many receivers

with a clear path to just like dominance than C.D. Lamb right now. Justin Jefferson, Cooper Cup, Jamar Chase, all have very high-end number two guys on their team. Stefan Diggs has an up-and-coming guy, Gabriel Davis. CD-Lam is really the only guy with little to no competition in the wide receiver field. The thing with Cid-Lam is like, this isn't pushing him up because C-D-Lam is like obviously poised for a big year, but we're already pricing him like that. The guys, the top six receivers are, I mean, Super Cup, triple ground winner, Justin Jefferson, who's Justin Jefferson. And then, I mean, Devante Adams is there. I mean, Jamar Chase.

Jamar Chase. Stefan Diggs. These are all guys who are incredible. And then like, I mean, Mike Evans is up there. He's had $7,000 yard seasons. And then freaking Citi Lamb. Like, so, like, how much higher do you want him to go? Like, you know what I mean?

You're kind of already paying top dollar. I guess my question is, is could Cidi Lamb, could he leave the league in targets this year? Yes. I mean, it's definitely on the table. but I understand where you guys are coming. I'm a big CD-LAM guy, but also, like, last year, he was very disappointing, you know, at times, where he's, like, basically just disappearing during games at times. And that was really concerning. He's also 23 years old.

Yeah, but he's also... Sometimes 23-olds are disappointing people. I mean, he's really talented, and now he's the focal point of the passing offense. So, I don't know what else you're looking for, really, in fantasy, other than, like, I guess, listening to your gut. Will so are you taking Cidi Lam or DeAndre Swift? Cidi, I think. Cidu Lam or Saquine Barclay. I just like all the running backs in that range,

I prefer to CD, not because he's not good. It's just like, you're paying for the ceiling. And I agree. Craig, just wiring. I got CD higher. As a fake-ass doctor in the words of J.K. Dobbins, I think that Cidiams too wiry. Every time I watch the game, I'm like,

God, I hope he just gets through halftime. Sinui strength. Yeah. Sinui? Some draft shit words. Is it sineu or is it sineu? I thought it was sinewy. Sinui.

Sinui. Sinui. No, this is the draft language. We don't use this in real life. Speaking with the Cowboys, though, everyone's just kind of like announcing Zeke's funeral and Tony Pollard to be just like the next guy in Dallas.

And Jerry Jones just swings in from the top rope and says, Zeke Elliott, quote, has to be our featured back. He is our featured back. We can feature him in a lot of different ways. It's critical that we make Zeke the focus of what we're doing. now there's also plenty of room for Pollard dude I think that people

like you know what I like about the whole Zeke Tony Pollard thing a lot of very smart people have done a lot of hard work a lot of analysis put in a lot like all these great thoughts people watch the Tate people out do the math and you're like you know what Tony Pollard's better than Sikh these great cases and people forget that Jerry Jones doesn't give a fuck

and he likes Ezekiel Elliott and that's the beginning in the end of the story And also Mike McCarthy is the coach. So there's like layers. There's layers of it. He has layers of insulation from ever coming off field. Well, it doesn't matter. Mike McCarthy said,

Zeeke's a keystone player for us. You know why Mike McCarthy said that? Because he knows who signs his checks? Yeah. Like, that's it. Jerry Jones likes Zeke Elliott. That's the,

like, this isn't going to be, no one's going to be happy with this because taking Zik is still going to be risky to take a 26-year-old back who is like the most carries in the NFL of last five. years. But he's also not losing the job. And he actually never gets hurt. This is one of our biggest disparities in our rankings. I have Zeke 28th, DK., 38th, and hyphen's 45th. I moved him up after this today,

because I realized that all the people pumping Tony Pollard forgot about Jerry Jones. So I've moved him up. I will be moving him up tonight after this podcast, actually. Look, Zick's numbers have been declining year over year. However, if you actually watched him play last year, I mean, he was moving around like... He looked good before he got a knee injury. Yeah, he's walking around. Like, he's like 60 years old with a back problem. I mean, he was...

I couldn't believe he played every game last year. That's probably the most impressive stat of 2021 is that Sikh played 17 games. I think we all want it to be Tony Pollard. This is a classic case of, like, fantasy... Witch casting. But, like, let's be honest. The wish.

We're not catching witches here. I'm sorry, did I say witch casting? Witch casting. Well, we're kind of calling him a fantasy. We got to get a witch if we were going to get fucking Pollard in here. People want... People want Zeke to get Wicked Witch of the Easton and the house drop on them. Zieg's going to have 250 plus carries.

I... You know what? I'm just a step on my take purge ahead of time here. Like, I think Ezekiela, it's going to just be a top five fantasy running back. Yeah, it's going to feel like an idiot. I actually saw this. This, Denny Carter from NBC Sports Edge tweeted this yesterday, and I was, like, laughing because he was like, I take no pleasure in reporting this.

But the Cowboys had the fourth highest rushing EPA before Zeke heard his knee in week four. He was on base for 1,500 yards. Zeke was. Oh, he was great. Yeah. He's still good. And assuming he stays healthy,

he's still going to be like, you said the massive, massive amounts of volume and a good offense that runs a lot of plays. He's going to score a lot of touchdowns. There is this like a world in which he's just a top five running back. Don't overthink it. No.

Can we just for the love of God get Pollard in the slot? He was a, he was a receiver. guy in college. High Fitz, don't do that bullshit. He was a receiver in the slot.

But running back. Yeah, but he was a receiver in college. People love running back from the slot. Does that actually equal fantasy production? Literally like never. It's like never actually a thing. Don't make him just make him into a receiver.

Honestly, that's interesting because there's down so many receivers. That's what I'm saying. I don't want him to be a running back who lines of in the slot because that happens like four times a year. Like we get all excited about it. and then teams will do it one time a game, maybe, maybe.

And then, like, it'll go for, like, two yards, they won't throw it to him. But I just think they should just turn them into a receiver, turn him into a slat receiver. I don't care. That's a good take. Ish in college. Thank you.

That's all I'm saying. Let him, play your best players. This is, like, this is, of course, this is what fantasy players say all the time. Fantasy analysts, like, coaches just can't tell who their best players are for whatever reason.

It's, like, the biggest bane of our existence. Just play your best players. Tony Pollard is one of their best players. offensive play. Just fucking playing. No, this is where I think people are fucking insane. Is that when they're like, you know what I know? You know who doesn't know who the best players are? The coaches. I know who the best players are. I think that, I think in some cases, it's correct to assume that coaches know more than the average fans. But there's also some really fucking terrible coaches, Hyphitz. Like, let's not like defer to authority here. Like, coaches make a lot of

stupid decisions. Like, let's just be honest. Coaches get a lot of shit wrong. Maybe there's politics around why he's playing. Maybe there's a fucking contract involved here. Zeke. Maybe there's an owner that's really just not letting the coach do what he wants. I was just saying, in this case, it's nothing to do with the coach.

Jerry Jones is the richest fantasy football owner. Jerry's got Zeke on his dynasty team. The contract. Jerry's a fantasy footballer. No, it's not the contract. Jerry just loves Zeke. Okay. Yeah.

A few other things that happened. So Van Jefferson, Rams, receiver is getting knee surgery. They say he'll be back in a few weeks, who knows, but opens up, spot in the Rams. Obviously, they've Cooper Cup. They have Alan Robinson. You know, maybe O'Dell would come back, but obviously O'Dell had his own ACL injury. He's not going to be playing until November. Yeah. McVeigh is openly calling for O'Dell to join the team, though. Craig, maybe you can pop over for your brother, Sean McVeigh. Does this mean that 2-2-at-Well is going to get into games? Now, all 145 pounds of him? Now, he's not wiry. I'm throwing out my sleeper for the Rams

number three receiver, Jacob Harris. Just throwing it out. out there putting it into the world. No one goes. You guys probably have never heard of them. No, you know who it is? Everybody doesn't want to admit it because he's boring. It's Ben Scuronic. Yeah. That's the guy who's going to be in the slot. He's going to catch four balls a game.

All fantasy analysts are just down bad because Ben Skirwanik is going to freaking be the number three and he's going to catch 800 yards receiving or whatever. And everyone's going to be like, I know he's not their best player, but Sean McVeigh is no idea what he's talking about. Okay. Ryan Jenton, the Bucks Center had an injury he left practice.

He might be out for the season. We've got to see that would obviously be a blow for the Bucks' offensive line, both for, I mean, the Bucks running game, but also just Brady with interior pressure because he's older now. He's older now. Now he's getting old. I guess he's older.

Brady's a bit older now. All the time. Craig's getting all meta. We are all older now, aren't we? I just love that. Like, we lost his center. Brady's getting little old now. It's not getting any of,

younger, guys. Honestly, he kind of is getting younger. He looks great. Yeah, it's a little bit weird. His social media presence suggests he's like 23. Well, he doesn't run his social media, which is like the thing that shouldn't annoy me, but does. Just don't tell us that. We just want to believe.

You know what? He approves it probably. He probably has to be like, yeah, I'll do this bit. I know. I just get mad when people are like, wow, Tom Brady's like so good with Instagram. He doesn't touch his fucking Instagram. Yeah, but there's still something to him. He's in charge of it.

green lighting things. He's the general. He gets the credit. He's not. Yeah, he gets credit. He delegates every, he's not doing it. But if they're like, hey, Tom, we need you to like pretend to trip and fall in the pool in this. And he's like, okay. Like, at least he's saying, okay. I feel like a lot of guys would not do that. He's making the videos. He's making the videos. He's making the videos. He's making the videos. He's making the videos. They're telling him what to do. Whatever. He's involved in the memes. I don't know what the memes. And he's not making the memes. He's not doing. Whatever. He's involved in the creation. He's being. He's involved in the creation. of the videos. That's different things. I'm saying we should give him credit for at least doing these stupid bits that the young people tell him to do. I mean, Craig's hottest take is that he doesn't think acting is hard,

but he's a pretty good actor. That never aired, D.K. Oh, sorry. Where? That's okay. So I don't want to step on your take. I don't think it's ever going to air. But people are going to freak out.

Now, I'll have to elaborate at a separate thing. No, we're never elaborating on it. Oh, my God. Anyway, okay. Moving on. I don't this isn't alright Kyler Murray has COVID

and then he also since we last recorded he had the video game clause removed from his contract what a fiasco what a week for Kyler Murray I couldn't help but imagine the Ferris Bueller scene where he's like he has like the lamp on his forehead to pretend like he's sick so he could stay home

from school just so Kyleor can just have a week of video games the second the clause is removed oh my god this is like the opposite like how people were faking having vaccines scene cards. Like he's faking having COVID. Oh, guy. I probably shouldn't joke about that. But yeah, it is kind of funny.

That they got the video thing taken out. The video game thing took out. I think it's... Stop. It is a humorous situation that he is sick the second the video game clause is removed. Yes. We don't, you know, COVID,

we don't want him to get sick, but it is a humorous, ironic situation. Tough timing. Yeah. It's quite the weak for the guy. Okay. You guys are cowards. Look, I'm the one who put this in the dock.

I think it's hilarious. As soon as they got the notification from ESPN, I was like, man, God, poor, what a, what a week for this guy. I mean, I pretend out of COVID, get out of a couple podcasts with you guys. I was playing Breath of the Wild. We also want to do the media hype train here. We got going. Best time of year right now. First week of training camp.

Dude, I just hook it straight into my veins. I am just loving training camp updates, the love every video there is. I love it when they show a guy warming up and just, I'm eating that all up. Like people playing against air. Look, look, they threw this professional quarterback through to a receiver who's jogging downfield. Guys, check it out. I love that. Training camp videos actually just absolutely trigger me.

And I know. Well, a lot of things trigger me to be fair. It makes me so angry. and I just I hate them and you know why I finally kind of figured out why it's the epitome of like in social media ecosystem

the tail wagging the dog you know why the rules at a lot of these practices are like very strict on like what you can and cannot record with your phone and so the reporters tweeting out like why do they tweet out them

warming up well they're not allowed to post the actual videos of the actual team practicing where they're actually running plays so you just get the one-on-ones which are like virtually and utterly meaningless. They're like get the videos going and they're like,

huh, I need to like caption this quickly because they need to go back to paying attention to practice. And they just put in something vaguely, you know, hype fuel. And then everyone in tours like, whoa! And I'm like,

it's just, they're wearing shorts. I quote retweeted a video of Keenan Allen making his wide receivers coach fall down on a route. You're lying up against the coach. I didn't even know that. I hate this with the white hot intensity of a thousand. You know why I love it so much is because Hyfitz hates it. That's actually why I pretend to say Deakin Neckap is overrated.

It's because fucking bothers you. That's really the engine that keeps the show purring is the vitriol between the two of you. I just been on a retweet binge the last few weeks, just hoping that Hyphitz will look at my, like, feed and just be seething. just the hand, the fist. All right, well, why don't you go talk about some of the guys that you're with the training camp pipe, huh? Well, there's one that stands above the rest. And his name is George Pickens, as Ben Solek would say.

Yeah. AKA, what do we, AJ Green 2.0, Julio Jones 2.0, whatever we're calling him. I like AJ, it's a good comp. Calvin Johnson. That's Chase Claypool. The Steelers have the next Calvin Johnson and the next AJ Green on the same football team. and those sons of bitches did it again.

He looks fantastic. Oh my God. You stand begging son of a bitch. He did it again. Look, the pictures are great. There's a picture circulating of him like high pointing catch or a pass, I should say, and like falling on his back.

That was great. There's some good videos out there. But I will say the beat reporters are corroborating everything. And again, we've talked about this on the pot. Like, it's not just one play. It's not just one warm-up that everyone gloms onto and thinks that they need to move people up the ranks. You want to look for the slow, steady drum beat. I think Sigmund Blue may be coined that.

The drum beat throughout training camp that this guy's really standing out. He's playing well. He's climbing the depth chart, all that stuff. It sounds like Pickens has already worked his way into the number three spot. It helps that Deonti Johnson is like sitting there. He's like holding in. He's not really holding out, but he's not really participating. He's working out separately because of contract stuff.

and Claypool has a shoulder injury. But, Yes. Pickens is already kind of sitting out special teams drills, which is usually an indication that he's with the first team.

He's going to be a starter. Yeah. Brooke prior, ESPN, and the first three practices are if the first three practices are any indication, George Pickens is going to be a huge factor in this offense.

He had some monster catches each day, including a nice one over the middle from Chibisky. Oh, by the way, we haven't talked about the quarterback starting quarterback situation for the Steelers lately.

How are you feeling about that? guys. So look, picket looks pretty bad apparently. Also, he got second team, he got refs with a second team today. But Tomlin came out and he's like, we're going to rotate everybody through every team. He's like, none of this means anything, but I know all of you media losers are going to write about it and like, you know, take all these takeaways from who's playing where right now, but this is the first week of training camp, but it probably means nothing. The Mason Rudolph, you know, is in the best position to start right now or looks like the starter is the biggest piece of coach speak I've ever heard

trying to light a fire under Trubisky. We've seen this movie before. Who have been in this offense for like a month and that's generous and Mason Rudolph knows the fucking plays. He should be,

if he looked horrible right now, he shouldn't be on the team. So I'm not worried just yet. We've got a lot of time. A lot of football play. A lot of ball game left. A lot of balls. I stand by my stance

that Kenny Pick will be the number three quarterback for the Steelers this season. All right. What else? Who else we got? Who's hyped up? Hyfitz, it's your turn. Talk about your giant guy.

I literally didn't put any of these people in this document. I'm going to say this one for Hafeitz. I'm going to do this in Hyphitz's honor. I hate all of this hype. I'm not doing any of this. I hate all of this. Well, that's why I'm doing it for you. Grinch.

Yeah, you're a thief of joy. And that's fine. It's fine. Can I just state for the record, since you're being such a grinch about it? None of these are based on one video. It's all based on the drum beat from beat reporters, which does matter.

We all establish that. Anyway, Wondale Robinson of the Giants, you'd be pleased to know, has been, according to Peter King, the star of the Giants' offense through training camp. It's not just Peter King saying that. You hear that, Iffin's, your beloved Peter King likes Wondell Robinson. Hyphins is so pissed because he does not want to be excited about any of this shit, but it's also his team. And Wondell Robinson has the opportunity to be like the next Elijah Moore or whatever. and he just like, he has so much internal conflict right now. I can see it on his face.

He doesn't know what to say. Are you excited about Wondale? Yeah, he's probably going to be good. I think the Giants, the question with the Giants with Wondale was like, where the hell is they're going to play? Because Cadaristone is better in the slot. Stilling Shepard is better in the slot. Wondell's better in the slot.

The answer is Sturley Shepard's coming off in Achilles and the Giants probably going to go four wide a lot. They don't have any good tight ends. Their best time is Ricky Seals Jones, who's kind of like a wide receiver. So I think the Giants will have a lot of four receiver sets. think Wondell will probably be able to play more than it seemed. And Cadarius can play on the outside, right? Like, he'll be, they'll be both, they'll both be in there at the same time.

They're not like redundant. Wondell's a good late, late, late dart throw. Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying he's going to be like a star this year. I just think, well, I mean, you literally said he's been the star of the offense. That was literally, well, I didn't say that. Peter King said it. But you said what Peter King said.

Well, I repeated what Peter King said, yes. All right, moving on, Alan Robinson. Craig's guy. Isn't he your guy? Oh, he is. Indeed. Alan Robinson, I pulled, I pulled quotes from like multiple people. Our friends, Robert Mays, Jordan Rodriguez, and the ringer zone, Austin Gale, all just absolutely loving what they're seeing from Alan Robinson and camp. Apparently, the red zone thing is like legit real.

We talked about this earlier, basically how O'Dell Beckham came in and was like the team's designated red zone like mismatch creator. And with O'Dell gone, or at least injured and not able to play it, but the first half of the year, um, this is potentially going to be Alan Robinson. This is why we need to go out and make, I don't know if we can make this, but if there's any double-digit touchdown props for Alan Robinson, like, bet that.

Because this guy has a chance to be like the, basically the go-to guy in the red zone. In the same way that, like, Adam Thielen is the go-to guy in the red zone for the Vikings over the years, like this is potentially what he could bring to this offense. That's a nice comp. Cinderella has found her slipper. Is Alan Robinson getting breakfast with Matthew Stafford?

I sure hope so. I mean, if he would, if he'd been taking notes from last year, that's very important. Because if he doesn't, I don't care. The only real concern is that Matt Stafford quietly has not gotten over this elbow issue. He's like pretty much not throwing yet because he had this injection in his elbow in the offseason. Well, they're like on a pitch count, right? Yeah. I mean, he's like, hasn't participated in team drills.

He's kind of thrown on the side. So I don't know. That's something to keep your eye on. It's concerning. Okay. Matt Stafford is like, you know, bag of bones, it seems like, poor guy. They're wheeling him out there every game. What?

He's like 33 years old. See, those are the hype things I want to hear. Enough of like Alan Robinson looks great. We're like Matt Stavreth, a bag of bones. Who has sucked? Who's sucked? Let's throw. Let's do it.

I just think Matt Stavford's always playing through like six injuries. He's like really 38. His body's 38, even if he's 33. It seems like he's been in the NFL for two decades. Yeah, those lion's years were not easy on the body. Well, he's been in the NFL for like a decade and a half. So yeah. So I don't know.

Probably why it feels like that. That's fair. All right. Hyphids, who are you really worried about? Every single running back getting hype, Travis ETN, people are like,

oh, Travis CTN's a star. They don't have pads on. Who fucking cares? Okay. James Robinson is on, is not on the POP. James Robinson will probably

be starting running back for the Jaguars. And everyone's just like freaking out over Travis CTN. I admit, Travis CTN is probably going to be incredible. He's like a much better past catching back.

but I do think some of his receiving role is again wish casting. I feel like his actual receiving ability at Clemson mildly overrated. And like I kind of, well, you gave me the. I'm just saying. I'm just fucking with you. And I feel like we have Travis E.TN very high. And I will say I'm something about this like assumption again for he's essentially a rookie.

He got, he broke his foot in August last year. He has never played a snap at the. NFL and kind of this assumption that this guy who again just came off a broken foot is going to just take on this massive workload i know that honestly james robbins also's in achilles but i don't know i think james robinson is more like little things well and i just kind of am already just absolutely sick of the running backs in freaking shorts getting credit for anything i just like i love how curmudgeon that you are about all this i just like you know i don't know what about it bothers me for football or whatever, five months.

The receivers is better for me. Like, with George Pickens making great catches, that means something. Like, at least there's, like, actual cornerbacks and safety is trying to stop them. I honestly don't know what you're supposed to learn from a running back, like, in shorts. There's no pads. Well, it's nice to know that his foot is healthy. And he, like, looks a year ago. He could have played in January if they made the playoffs.

He said that. So why are you worried about his injury then? What? You were, you're talking about how he's, coming off of foot injuries, never played a snap. Does that matter? Does it not matter? I'm saying that like the assumption that the foot fracture, like he's not going to get a ton, like, I'm not talking down-to-down explosiveness, talking overall a massive workload

over the course of a season for a potentially stress-related injury. I did, I did move ETIN down a little bit in the ranks. Thank you. Not because I'm worried about his foot, more just that, like you mentioned, James Robinson, is back. And it sounds like he's going to have a pretty major role in this offense. He's a really good pass protecting back, too, so he could steal some of the third down work. It's a little bit concerning. That's what I just thought felt like we had him a little bit too high. I still think he has a really good ceiling. But everything that you're saying is valid. I just like to,

I just like how angry you are about it. You're very angry about all this. You're right. I am. I don't know why. Honestly, I do. It's because I was in the middle of see it on a flight defender today. He's just got done. I'm just fucking mad at the world. sitting on a plane with a massive humanity. And I can, I understand it. To be clear, I hate, I'm not, I don't like to complain about flying. I'm, I'm a firm believer that flying is a human miracle. I'll complain for you.

And 99.99.99% of humans who've ever lived would say that flying is a myth. I'm like, you are a god. Before we go, can I, uh, I want to ask our listeners, I'm going to seek their help. It's my birthday tomorrow. Well, I guess it's today when you're listening. We're recording my first. My birthday is the second. Every birthday.

I'm going away with some friends for the weekend, and we were all talking about, you know, like what games there are to play. They could be drinking games. They don't have to be drinking games. And people pretty much stick to the same games they learned when they were in college and high school. And they never evolved after that.

That's true. But I don't know what people, I'm turning 28. I don't know what people, the youths are playing. So if you've got any new great games that you know about, drinking or non-drinking for a house of friends, fire that our way. What is your go-to? We need to get the ones that you do off the table.

I mean, like, that's the classics. Like, you're playing your beer pongs, your Kings Cups, your, you know, there's a lot of games, like, perhaps have different names in different areas of the country. Yeah, Flip Cup. We play a game called Shandy. You can, like, turn card games into drinking games, stuff like that. Shandy. What's that?

Chandelier, short for Chandelier. There's, like, obviously, you know, beer die, stuff like that. But if you know anything that's like, oh, we found out of this fun game, if you take this board game and turn into this, or, oh, we play. play a game where everybody's got to like do something with a anything. Let me know. I feel like Kings Cup is the most timeless drinking game. I think it's Beer Pong, undefeated. Well, beer pong, yeah, that's another one. But everybody played Kings. Here's how you know beer pong is a great game. You don't even need alcohol. I'd have fun playing it

with water for six hours. Yeah. The thing about Kings is every game needs to take a note from Kings because the best part of Kings is when you get a king and you can change the rule to a game and you can be like, if you curse, your forehead is on the table until someone else curses. And, like, more games need the chance for people to just add a rule. Play God. Yeah, that's just such a wonderful thing. So little power go to someone's head so quickly. You know what the best rule is?

If you pull a king, you come up with like a word that everybody has to keep their ear out for. And you make everybody clap anytime you say the word and the last one to clap has to drink. So you just be like, my word is monkey. and anytime I say monkey, everybody has to clap, and it's hilarious. It's a great role. Oh, man. I miss playing kings.

Send your, also email your best king's rules to read the festival channel. Interesting. We don't call it Kings Cups. I mean, you call Chandelier Shandy, but you can't call Kings Cup Kings? Listen, I don't make the rules. You do, it's Kings. You do make the rules. You literally make the rules in Kings.

I do it, I'm told. All right. Well, I'm telling you're getting out of here. Go to fantasy. Football.Theirondon.com, check out our fantasy football rankings. Thank you for listening. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Lorne. Lorne. Thank you, Kings of Leon. Nice.

I don't really want Kings of Leon, but I'm going to throw it out there because they got the word Kingsend. I have no thoughts on them. There's a, there's a scene from New Girl where all of a sudden just randomly, I think Schmidt's like, yeah, Kings and Leon, they're just really kind of, they're kind of in a rut. I'm like, Kings of Leon catches a real big stray. in New Girl. I don't know what they did to those guys. Sex on fire. That's their big son. Can you imagine like unironically shouting that into a microphone? What? Sex is on fire. Yeah. This sex is on fire. Like it's just like, oh. I love when I've it sings on the show. That's really bad. I'm a very bad singer. Although I think I've gotten pretty

good at karaoke because I have a really good list of songs that you can do where you're really bad at singing, but you can still do the karaoke well. I actually saw your girlfriend posted a video of you doing karaoke on Instagram and I watched it. Ooh, what song? Well, my favorite last show was photographed. That was my big return to karaoke post-pendemic was photograph by Nicolbach. It's just kind of like a guttural, raspy yell so you can, you don't need tone really. Look at this photograph.

Did you guys see the video of Guy Fieri rocking out at the, I think it was, I actually don't remember. I think it was Raging Against Machine concert. somebody correct me if I'm wrong but it was like the best video it was like wait for it and it's like panning through the crowd and then it just finds guy fierre and he's just like smoking a cigar and like fucking like pumping his fist like rock it out oh my god it is rage against the machine i would love to get guy fierry on the show just guy fierry is just raging against the machine hard we don't have many guests i would love guy fieri also i love um just a friend bis markey

just a friend by Biz Markey's a really good karaoke song if you are really bad at singing Oh that is a good one Because he's just talking Also really sad song He's just like dude He needs to take a hint I know friend zoned

Guy Fierry's got a stogie in his mouth Drink in hand Fis pumping in a leather jacket What a stud Is there ever been a more genuine person Than Guy Fierry He just lives his He just lives his damn truth

Yeah I read an article Someone described Nicholas cage as an extremely earnest man in an ironic world. Thought that was incredible. But I think that's also Guy Fierry. Yeah. I hope he never gets canceled.

Why is that a thing? Such is a general hope of all of your favorite celebrities? Like, you don't, you know? Yeah, honestly, you're right. I don't want it to be like, it's a look bad in five years that I love Guy Fierry. You either die uncanneled or live long enough to become canceled. Also, what would happen all the Guy Fieri memes? and all the Bachelorette parties

who've already purchased their Guy Fieri themed outfits. All right, goodbye, everyone. Check out Johnny Garlix. Fucking Garlix. That's his fucking restaurant. I Google Guy Fierry cigars. There's so many more photos

of him smoking cigars that are, all these photos, he's just drinking his smoking cigars all the time. I mean, that's because he's living his most genuine life. What does he do all day? Oh, Johnny Garlix is permanently closed. Damn it.

What happened? Wait, did he get canceled already? I don't think so. I heard he's nice. I heard he's like nice to his staff. He also goes to Raiders Crating Kemp every year. It just makes them like an obscene amount of food for the entire team. I could be making this up, but I maybe it wasn't.

Like somebody needs to do a like a just a really long montage super cut of him like biting into burgers. The way he like holds them. He just like goes. Oh, God, that's so good. He basically has like a food gasm, you know, every time he bites into like a burger. I've watched so much Triple D. I love the way. Drives and Dives and Dyes.

I was trying to remember the catchphrases. We're heading out. We're rolling out. We're rolling out. Like, we're here in St. Louis. When we're rolling out to your grandma's best barbecue spot. Oh, God. Yeah.

I've watched a lot of that show. He's like, check back in on us next week when we roll out to Minnesota. We're rolling out. Every time he takes a bite of a burger He just describes like the only way Yeah But they always just he just describes like Every type of flavor the tongue can taste

He like takes a bite He's like you got the fat of the burger The crunch of the lettuce The sweetness of the tomato That's a killer burger Fist bumps the guy Fist puffs Well that was rings

Yeah It was rings Oh god Craig should that be the The outcome of the Kenny Picket bet What of us has to either get a Guy Fierry wig or do the Guy Fiery hair. I want a guy Fiery shirt.

I might have a hard time doing the Guy Fiery hair, Hyphids. I want like one of his black button downs. It's just covered in flames. Yeah. Those are sweet. Loser buys the other a guy Fierry themed wardrobe. When we roll out.