The Ringer NFL Show - Training Camp Stock Up Stock Down, As Told by Happy Gilmore

Episode Date: August 4, 2021

We run through the biggest risers and fallers of training camp as explained by quotes from the movie ‘Happy Gilmore.' RB Jonathan Taylor, Colts (2:53) RB Antonio Gibson, Washington (6:41) HC Dan Campbell, Lions (10:13) RB D’Andre Swift, Lions (15:44) WR CeeDee Lamb, Cowboys (18:20) WR Randall Cobb, Packers (24:14) RB Sony Michel, Patriots (30:17) QB Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins (32:54) WR Will Fuller, Dolphins (34:07) WR Sammy Watkins, Ravens (39:17) QB Jimmy Garoppolo, 49ers (44:45) WR Brandon Aiyuk, 49ers (52:09) Quick Hitters (53:43) Check out The Ringer's 2021 Fantasy Football Draft Guide here. Email us at [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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My name is Danny Hyfitz. I am joined by two guys who spend more time in the sand than David Hasselhoff. Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck. Today we are going to do training camp stock up, stock down. Although we're doing it through Happy Gilmore Quotes. So is it really like above par and below par? Oh, nice. Yes, exactly like that.

But the problem is stock down is like below par, but below par is good. So that might be kind of confusing. It's a little confusing. We'll figure it out. Well, I mean, it's not that confusing. The low par's good. We just switch it up. It's like, you know, people, it's not rocket science.

People can get it. I'm just to say, this guy is going to be a better golfer and this guy's a worse golfer. Yeah, there we go. Exactly. See? It's simple. So, yeah, we're just going to go through. There's just so much news that's coming out.

It's like drinking from a fire hose. So we're just, or maybe bathing in a pond, maybe is a better metaphor. And we're just going to go. And we're just going to go. And we're just going to do. Yeah, it's just kind of, you know, a little stock up, stock down, week plus into training camp. what I really want to do is next season as soon as the season ends

we all got to go to a batting cage and just take balls to the chest they're like 364 days for the next season gotta get stronger gotta toughen up what do you think is the highest miles per hour

you could take because he takes like six of them not like one like what is the highest mile an hour you could take straight to the skull not that but the chest like would you take like how many of those do you think you could take to the chest in a row

at like 90 miles an hour I'd be the kid that gets in the cage after him he just goes it just crumbles. If it's 90 miles an hour to the chest, I could take one and then I'd go to the doctor. Oh, God, that hurt a little bit, but I'm okay. You know, Jacob Issa, the guy who's going to replace

Wednesday in Indianapolis, that's the little kid who gets knocked over by the ball. It's like six-round Jacob Easton playing Aeronald in week two. Like, ah! Also, are there a lot of batting cages at golf courses, by the way? I was thinking that, too. Is that a weird thing? Is that a weird thing?

Is that normal? nice enough to have a tournament you can get out of the PGA tour but there's a baton cage next to it. It's kind of an all-purpose recreational facility you know? I guess, yeah. Yeah, this is a simpler time.

All right. All right, Hyphids, do you want to start? I do want to start while we're on the Colts. I was thinking about Jonathan Taylor running back for the Colts and I was just happy. I don't know if you guys play golf. Like I think about this every time of puppet.

Just tap it in. Just tap, tap, tap, tap it. Just tap it in. Just tap it in. Give it a little tapy. Tap, tap, tap a roo. I was thinking that because Jonathan Taylor is going to have a hard time finding holes this season. It's going to be very tough.

Good one. Strained, maybe. It's fine. I think this is the right conversation to be having, though. I mean, how low, like, let's actually look at where Jonathan Taylor is currently ranked in our rankings and where should we put him next week because we're going to re-up our rankings soon. and as of right now, we have him right after Nick Chubb

right before Austin Echler. How are you guys feeling now? Well, right now, so we've got him 13th overall and half PPR. I actually kind of feel like that's around the right spot. Like maybe move him down a couple spots. Like some people were drafted him in the first round

and, you know, to be totally honest, I've drafted him in a first round of a draft or two here prior to the season, but I wasn't feeling great about it. I really do think more, it's more accurate it now. So maybe move him down like one or two spots. I probably put Echler over him now. But I don't think we need to move him down too too much. And I don't think we need to completely overreact. But it's stuff, especially like I think the Quentin Nelson news is actually worse for Taylor than the quarterback situation. Yeah, I'm overreacting. I'm going to overreact it.

How far are you dropping him? So well, so here's things. So Carson Wentz, we talked about this, but Carson Wentz on Monday. He had surgery due excise a piece of bone from his left foot. He's out five to 12 weeks. On Tuesday, the next day, Quentin Nelson, their starting left guard, has the same diagnosis and has to get the same surgery and has the same timeline five to 12 weeks. Which, first of all, what are the odds of that happening?

I never even like heard of that, yeah. Who would you guys rather be healthy in terms of Jonathan Taylor succeeding? Quentin Nelson or Carson Wentz? Okay, it's Wentz. No offense to Quentin. It's like the drop from a average quarterback to Jimenezson.

Jacob Eason's sixth rounder is bigger than the drop from the best left garden football to a replacement. You really think Eason's going to start the year? You don't think they're going to go get somebody? Whatever they do, it's a disaster. You're bringing in a quarterback on three weeks notice? That's bad. It's going to be foals. They're going to bring in foals. That would be hilarious. That's the funniest thing. Philip Rivers coming back from coaching his Alabama high school. Also funny. Whatever they do, I'm not excited about it. And now one of the strong things for Jonathan Taylor is, will the Colts have one of the best offensive lines in the league? not have Quentin Nelson's hurt. So I don't like this.

I'm not a fan of this. And I think that a lot of the reasons we like the Colts allowed us to overlook the fact that they have not one but two guys who could take touches from Neheim Heinz takes a lot of passing down work. You have Marlon Mack

who can still be in the fold. Like Frank Reich's never been quite a guy who's gonna just like load up on one running back to begin with. I'm dropping Jonathan Taylor, I think outside my top 12 running backs. He's like a fringe second rounder to me. There's just all,

I don't like when many things pile up that are negative. It's like, it's nothing about Jonathan Taylor, but like how many times is it going to get to tap tap-tap-a-roop. Yeah, so he's just kind of firmly in this tier three now, maybe in the lower end of it. The guys, the Clydes, Antonio Gibson, Najee Harris, Joe Mixing.

Yes. You think he's right in there? Yeah. I think that's fair. That's how I feel. Like, what makes you optimistic about this Colts team right now? Yeah. By the way, I love in this scene when Chubbs is like,

tap it and tap it and then Happy looks down to start putting it. He goes, hey, tap. it in. Like, it interrupts his butt to tell him to tap it in. I just think that's so good. To stick with the tier three running backs, another guy I wanted to talk about who's having a good camp is Antonio Gibson, the running back for Washington.

He's a guy who I would now take over Jonathan Taylor, I think. My Happy Gilmore quote for Antonio Gibson is when Happy Gilmore is at the driving range for the first time, just crushing balls. And that nice couple goes, wow, how often do you play? And he goes, never, this is my first time. Which is to me is Antonio. Gibson playing running back, you know, because he was a receiver at Memphis. Yeah, I love that. He shows up and they're like, Jesus, you're a PFF's fifth running back? How often do you play? He's like, never, it's my first time. That's so good. You're like a freak. How often do you play? Never. This is my first time. Hey, you should play in the Waterbury Open tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, all right. I'll see you guys there. But listen, the more and more I think about it, we might still be a little low on Antonio Gibson. He's like an end of the second rounder kind of guy. We have him ranked 21st. Are we still underrating how good the offense could be?

I mean, we obviously got fits here. There's going to be a huge second-year jump potential for him. Ron Rivera, when they had, Ron Rivera and Norv Turner were there for Christian McCaffrey's beginning of his career. Right. And McCaffrey had 197 touches year one, jumped at 326 in year two. And Norv Turner's gone, but now Scott Turner, his son, is the O.C. with Rivera and Washington, and I don't know, man.

I mean, if he's already good at running back and they're going to try and work him to be a better receiver. He had 36 catches last year, and that's what he's best at, playing wide receiver. If they phase out in McKissick, I know I've said in the past that, like, those guys don't go away, but he doesn't have to go fully away. But if they can kind of turn Gibson into some type of McCaffrey light, this could be a situation where 2022, you know, the new phase of four running backs, like I've also talked about earlier, Gibson could well be in that range. And I love Gibson a lot this year. If that turf toe continues to stay at, you know, at bay. I would also take Gibson over Taylor.

Yeah. Yeah. Is there any other running back that has the potential to be the most McCaffrey-esque than Gibson right now? Like, are there any... Like, even in our top five, still feel like there's so many question marks around everybody. You know, like...

For instance, Aaron Jones, I think, is still going to be like a part-time player. Alvin Camara, they're never going to give him 20-plus touches a game. Like, Gibson could legitimately be McCaffrey-esque in volume. And I think there's... Maybe, like, Joe Mixon is the only... the other one that I can think of right now. Sequin Barclay, if he's healthy, but that's a big question mark right now.

So, yeah, I mean, I think his upside is absolutely just astronomical. I think the reason he's low is exactly like that quote. It's like, never. It's my first time. Maybe he just doesn't know how to putt or whatever. Yeah, that's the thing. I don't think he's McCaffrey-esque because, I mean, McCaffrey, again, when he's healthy, he plays like 90 plus percent of the Panthers snaps.

I don't see that, but I do see Gibson not coming off the field nearly as much as he did last year. Yeah. But still, I, it's, it's, I didn't expect to get here, but yeah, I'd rather have Gibson than Jonathan Taylor. I'd also rather have Nadja Harris than Jonathan Taylor. Like, I'm moving Jonathan Taylor down and Gibson to me. It's just, I haven't seen anything that's dissuade me.

Also, it sounds like his toe is okay. I mean, it hasn't been an issue the last, or at least in training camp started. So that's very promising. Did you hear him say, they interviewed Gibson after a practice and he said running routes is pretty easy, pretty easy to learn. Love it. So it's like, man, that feels great. Lock him in, put him all over the field

When he hits a hole in one, he's like, oh man, that was so much easier. I should just do that every time. Good plan, man. Oh, my, all right, TK. All right, so this one might be a stretch, but I just feel like Dan Campbell has big Chubbs energy. He's got a lot of Chubbs vibes coming into the season.

Specifically. With Lions Coach Dan Campbell. Yes, Lions Coach Dan Campbell, who specifically when Chubbs introduces himself to Happy Gilmore, and he's like got his hands behind his back and then all of a sudden he pulls his wooden hand out he's like damn alligator bit my hand

oh my god yeah turn him down in Florida I hook my ball in the rough down by the lake damn the alligator just popped up cut me down in my prime he got me but I tore one of that bastard's eyes out though look at that

you're pretty sick chubs and he's like and he starts like tapping him in the shoulder like you know what I mean he's like but I got that bastard's eyeball just the horror the horror and recoil which Happy Gilvar is like looking at him

is so great. I love how his hand gets run over by a truck and then he puts it back together and his fingers are always falling off. Happy goes to shake his hand and just squishes all the hands up. So basically he's like Dan Campbell I think has like the take that bastard's eyeball type of he's type of guy

he's going to like jump in after an alligator and take the eye. Dude he literally wrestled steers when he was a kid on a farm. He's taken a ranch. He's taken hunks out of people. In fact, as we're recording this, literally, I see a tweet that says, Detroit Lions head coach Dan Campbell starts the day with two 40 ounce coffees and two shots of espresso. 80 ounces of coffee and four shots of espresso every day.

What? 80 ounces of coffee? Wait, sorry. I need those numbers again. Please say those numbers. I think I heard you wrong. Two 40s of coffee plus two shots of espresso each day. So do we know where he gets the coffee from?

Or is he making it at home? He fills it up. He fills up his big gulp at 7-Eleven on the way to camp or something. He's a dunkin guy. Guaranteed. That's a lot. That's kind of these stomach issues with that, man. Hold on.

We need to get into this. A cup of coffee is eight ounces. It's around 100 milligrams of coffee of caffeine, excuse me, according to Google. So if he has, he has eight. 80 ounces of coffee. So he said 10 cups of coffee and then the espresso? That's a thousand milligrams of caffeine. Dude, no wonder he gives all his interviews like that.

He's hopped up like a spider monkey. We're on the other episode now. I got that bastard's eye, though. Oh my God. I don't think we can quite move on yet. I think this is incredible. I mean, we have just, Craig and I have this longstanding thing where we kind of don't know of caught.

Craig thinks coffee is for the unmotivated. It's for the week. It's not motivated, Craig? I think it's for the week. I just love to see what Dan Campbell's like in the morning before that coffee, you know? Also, what happens if he doesn't drink the coffee? Like, when your body is used to eight cups of coffee and two shots of espresso like the other day, what would happen if he just didn't have coffee?

Do you think he consumes them in eight-ounce containers, but refills them over and over and over to look normal with a cup of coffee in his hand? Or do you think he goes giant, massive cauldron that he just carries around in the morning? I think he's got a big thing. But I guess he must make it a home of them. He must make it weak. Like there's no way. It's just like a camelback of coffee.

He's just drinking all day long. He has one of those hats with the straws that go to his mouth. Like the guy with the catty with the beer. Yeah. The caddy with the beer. That's incredible. Oh, man. Anyway.

Well, I'm the real. Oh, go ahead. Oh, no. You have another Dan Campbell quote? Well, I did think of one other one of how I was rewatching the movie. Just with Jared Goff showing up to Lions camp and Detroit and stuff and kind of being in the Dan Campbell situation. I don't know if this is true,

but to me it feels like when quarterbacks are on teams, like the Niners and the Rams, to me it's like super progressive and hip and cool. It's like working at Spotify or working at Google. Like the offices are all cool

and I feel like the Lions is the exact opposite. Like you show up, it's like a cement prison cell. And so I just imagine Jared Goff. Jared Goff getting in, sitting down his little locker room and he goes,

Dan, can I trouble you for a glass of warm milk? It helps me go to sleep. But Dan Campbell goes, you can trouble me. for a warm glass to shut the hell up. You're in my world now, Gough. You will go to sleep, or I will put you to sleep.

Check out the name tag, Grandma. Sir, could I trouble you for a glass of warm milk? It helps put me to sleep. You could trouble me for a warm glass of shut the hell up. Now you will go to sleep, or I will put you to sleep. Check out the name tag. You're in my world now, Grandma. Sean McVeigh gives Dan Campbell a dollar bill and goes,

I want you to take care of this little guy right here. And Dan Campbell goes, I can't, I can't, that. Do me a favor. You see that lady? She's very important to me, okay? Okay. So, I want you to take extra special care of her.

I'm talking about here. I can't accept that, but I'll tell you what I can do. I can take extra special care of that young lady over there for another. By the way, Ben Stiller, one of the greatest cameos of all time, right? Ben Stiller's one of the most underrated comedy actors of our time.

Oh, my God. That's such a good, uh, character. He's just like behind Adam Stanley. He's like given the throat slashed to grandma. Like, shh. Anyway, so good.

Do we have any fantasy thoughts on the line? What do you think of DeAndre Swift? Yeah, so you got him as a stock up here. My very periphery fantasy analysis on this is I'm getting more and more excited about Dandre Swift. Part of the reason is because Dan Campbell is bringing those

Chebs Peterson vibes. and he's just kind of a psycho and I think that they're going to run the ball a lot and they're just going to like take hunks out of people, all that stuff. They're going to have a good offensive line. But he recently, Campbell recently said he envisioned Swift and Jamal Williams

being similar to like the Alvin Camara Mark Ingram, you know, sort of like pairing that they had with the Saints. Oh, an Alvin Camara comparison. That's new. Why do people only compare their running backs to Alvin Camara? You always want to compare yourself

to the best, I guess. I mean, Camara is like the platonic ideal of that profile of running back, right? So, like, that, I get that. Because everyone wishes they had Camara in the third round. It's just that.

They just like, oh, we could have had that. That would have been cool. Yeah. There was also another, DeAndre Swift the other day said, the energy is different in Detroit. Now, guys are smiling,

having fun. People kind of forget to have fun playing a kid's game. You can't forget to have fun. And that just reminded me of the Chubbs Peterson going, it's all in the hips. It's all in the hips.

Just easing the tension, baby. Easing the tension. Can you imagine going from... Ease it on someone else. Can you imagine how different it would be under a guy like Dan Campbell versus Matt Patricia? Yeah, that's tough. Also, DeAndre Swift, is football a kids game? Well, kids play it, yeah.

Yeah. I think it actually scientifically has now been proven it should not be in the game. Like, we actually know that now. Right. The, okay, so Swift, I think every part of this, I think you're right about like, it makes sense that this team's going to run a shitload. And it's kind of one of those. Like, it's the same reason that it was pretty easy to see them taking Pena Sewell in the draft. Like, oh, yeah, right. The guy wants to come out of people wasn't going to take a receiver in the first round. Like they want to tackle. So it's just a question to me of like how much work is Swift going to get versus Jamal Williams. I like Jamal Williams, the value of him getting him later in drafts. But I can see both. You're, you're chipping away at me. You're taking hunks out at me. And my. not loving Swift. Sweet. Yeah, he's another year two jump guy, just like Antonio Gibson,

in that tier four of running backs with J.K. Dobbins and Chris Carson and Just Jacobs and Mal Sanders. I got to say, I think I like Swift more than Jacobs and Sanders at this point. I think he's winning me over. Yes. You can bring him closer to Clyde for me. All in the hips. So another guy who has had a huge camp that I'm,

it's honestly all second year guys. I think we've all been too transfixed with rookies having these big years that we're forgetting that the second year. years use of the year they make these big jumps. C.D. Lamb has been apparently just destroying camp. A lot of beat reporters, they're saying he's reached DES level

of Oxnard domination. Oxnard is where they host training camp. They say there's a significant gap between Lamb and everybody else. He's had the best training camp on the roster. There's so much buzz, and we have him ranked as our wide receiver 13. You know, before DAC got hurt,

C.D. Lamb was on pace for like 80 catches, almost 1,400 yards. That's like right what Justin Jefferson was doing. Wow. Is there a chance that if Dak never got hurt, that C.D. Lamb is Justin Jefferson? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And that he's just a wide receiver seven and everybody's rankings. I don't know. I understand that there, I mean, once you get to the top, you really got to kind of pick some nits to rank these top receivers, but there's something about C.D. over these guys like Mike Evans and Chris Godwin and Terry McClureen that are going around him. It's just more fun.

You know, fantasy is supposed to be fun. Like, CD's just so exciting. And I feel like, you know, are Mari Cooper's probably already reached the peak of what he can do. Michael Gallup would kind of know what he can do. C.D. Lamb is the guy in the offense that I feel like could really take like the biggest leap and really connect with Dak the most. And it sounds like that's what they're trying to do. And the training camp has moved him all over the field and get him the ball as many ways as possible. I could really see C.D. Lamb, you know, week three this year. And we're all like, God damn it. This was right in front of our faces. He's a top five wide receiver.

Yeah. Yeah. So the quote that came to my mind when I was like reading all the quotes about CD Lamb and everything. Like last year, basically he lined up in the slot for the most part. I think it was mostly in the slot. Now they're moving them all over the formation. He can play everywhere. You can get the more high value looks and passes. And the thought that came to my mind was when, you know, they're doing the playoff and happy goes, uh-oh, happy, learn to putt, or whatever. And it's basically like the same deal. It's like he's taking his game to the next level. He's not like a one-trick pony. Not that he was a one-trick pony. Not that he was a one-trick pony, you know, last year. But basically, you know, he's taking his game to another level.

He's, he's a complete receiver. We play all over the formation. So part of me is just like we should just flip CD and Amari because we got Amari Cooper as our wide receiver 10. We have two Cowboys receivers in the top 13 receivers. We have 10 and 13 right now and half PBR. I almost just want to flip CD and Amari right now. Well, that's my question for you. Is CDLand the number, like, do we think of C.D. Lamb as the number one receiver for the Cowboys in a like this point next year? Yeah. I mean, we might.

I think it's a pretty solid chance. No one ever projects wide receivers to both be top 10 finishes, but it happens a lot. Like, every year there's usually one duo that both finish in the top 10. But no one ever projects that because it feels kind of risky to do that. But I think C.D. and Amari with how much the Cowboys throw the ball. Well, that's the question, though.

are we because we just talked up Michael Gallup the other day and I think that we're all kind of into Michael Gallup has the quote him he's probably he's easily the best third receiver and he's an overqualified third receiver so but we like him to get really has to be work here are we saying that Michael Gallup's moving up so but if we don't move Mara Cooper appropriately down are we saying DAC is going to get even more volume or do we have or are we trying to move our Marry Cooper down like not like a spot or two but like decently because the Mori Cooper has had again What for the umpteenth season in a row? He's starting this, like he's on the PUP, the physically unable to perform list. He's got, I believe he had an ankle surgery in the offseason, so he's still not 100%. And it's just, it's always annoying when you have your drafting receiver

who like has the questionable and you're like, oh, like, you don't know how healthy they are. And it would really suck if it's like November. And you're like, yeah, Murray Cooper's been gritting through this ankle injury all season. You're like, that sucks. I think when they're on the field that they're both playing their equals.

I think they're both kind of around the wide receiver 10 spot. But I would weirdly see, say despite how young C.D. Lamb is there's less risk involved with Lamb just because of the health factor. So you're sitting there on the clock, you know, and Amari Cooper and C.D. Lam are both there. Like, are you taking Amari right now? No, listen, it's so much more fun now to pick C.D. Lamb. Just do it. Even if it's maybe not the right move. It's just more fun. I feel like that's kind of dumb. It's my instinct, but how often are your instinct? Sometimes your instincts are pretty stupid. I mean, C.D. Lamb was immediately good. Like, I feel like we're not really talking about

like Justin Jefferson took a while to warm up. Like C.D. Lane was immediately good, but we knew Amari Cooper was good. I'm saying like as a rookie, like literally the first four weeks he was just like, oh, he's already great. Yeah, it's just, it's hard to scale. First of all, you're right about the Justin Jefferson thing because, again, they basically were averaging, like, Justin Jefferson, who broke the record for rookie receivers, receiving yards, that was basically the same yards per game mark that Cidium had with Dak. Like, he was at Justin Jefferson clip.

Having said that, they're not going to. going to be throwing as much as they were for that four-game sample. Like, they're not. But, like, yes, you can say that. Cool. Maybe they won't throw the most in the NFL. But, like, do you think they're going to throw the top five most times in the NFL? Probably.

Yeah, I'm just saying that they just happened to be, again, Dak Prescott's set a career high for passing yards three weeks in a row. That's just, it's, it's dangerous just to look at that sample in a vacuum. But, I mean, I like CD. That's all I'm saying. I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to figure out how, like, like, like, if, it's, It's kind of like, I think everyone's kind of like, it's kind of hard to be up on Amari,

especially until he comes back on the field. But we'll watch Hard Knocks and we'll change our minds all over again. Well, if anything, Hard Knocks is going to change our mind, not on Amari, but on CD. We're going to be even more in on CD. Yeah, probably. D.K. All right.

So the next one that, this was actually the first quote that I thought of when we decided to do Happy Gilmore is, and I'll just tell you who it's going to be first, and then I'll give you the quote. Randall Cobb going to the Packers and especially like specifically like lobbying with Aaron Rogers to get traded from Houston, which is maybe the worst franchise in professional sports right now to the Packers, which is one of the top ones, is 100%. So happy Gilmar. He loses his house because his mom was like 250 grand and back taxes, blah, blah, blah. So he's taking her to, you know, this new nursing home, Silver Acres. It's going to be really great. It's, you know, you're going to love it here. You're going to make so many friends. And all of a sudden, this lady jumps on the hood of the car and just goes,

Get me. Here, just eat that. Leave us alone. And I just keep thinking about Randall Cobb doing that. Randall Cobb is jumping on Aaron Rogers' like hood. Get me out of here. He's like, here, eat this. They give us a dirty subway.

It's like she's a bear. She's. I love how Adam said happy Gilmore just continues to take his grandma to the place after that He's like nah, I'm sure that's just a one-off By the way, the immediate connection I made with this after was is is Jack Easter? Sorry, is Jack Easterby the Ben Stiller character of this story? Just like this fucking like maniac guy that's like running Silver Acres nursing on him.

Also, very random like this is like an IMD, IMDB fact. the opening to the scene, it just shows Happy Gilmar driving in front of this nursing home. And I'm like 99% sure he's just driving down a sidewalk in front of the nursing home. Oh yeah, I noticed that too. He's not a road. This is definitely not a road.

It's not a road at all. Blackie driving down the sidewalk. No, but why are you talking about Randall Cobb? The funniest thing I've seen about the entire Randall, again, Rogers looks like I won't come back unless you get me Randall Cobb from Houston. Ben Solac, now of the ringer. Yeah.

He said that it was like that Seen and Guardians of the Galaxy where they're breaking out of the prison and he's like, all right, I need you to hit that button and get me that receiver and then bring me that guy's leg and then either in the thing of like Chris Pratt brings him the legs, oh, I was just kidding about that. I thought that'd be funny.

I just need these two things. That's amazing. I love that. Wait, so do we like Cobb though at the Packers though? Yeah, specifically to Cobb, since this is a fantasy show, is there a world in which he is fantasy relevant? him. Like, are we, should we now, I mean, because I don't think we even had him on our rankings before this move. Is there some, is there a world in which he actually emerges as the number two? Or is this more just like a feel good move for the Packers kind of deal?

He needs to rise up the ranks for sure. I mean, in best ball, people have him going as the wide receiver 77. Yeah. That's fucking insane. Like, well, he should 100% be a flex option on your team. Here's my question. Does this hurt Devante Adams? Because I think that, Well, no, but like, I think, so Devonty Adams, guess how many touchdowns he had inside the 10 yard line last year? 11. 13. Inside the 10 yard line? Devonty Adams had 13 touchdowns just from inside the 10 yard line.

And I think that the simplest answer for that is he was the only guy that Aaron Rogers trusted inside the 10 yard line. And so what I'm wondering now is if he's, if he trust Randall Cobb so much that he actually was like, I'm not fucking. and coming back until you get me Randall Cobb, and we're now up on Randall Cobb, doesn't this have to take a little bit away from Devante? Because there is no chance the Packers will be better in the Red Zone. The Packers, probably the best Red Zone conversion season ever last year, they're going to decline a little bit. And I'm wondering if this takes away from Devonte's touchdowns.

My opinion is, no, it doesn't really take away from Devante. I think there's a chance maybe he'll get one or two fewer looks in the Red Zone. but I think the reason Devante Adams is so dominant in the red zone inside the 10-yard line, it's not because he's the only guy. It's because he's a fucking layup every time you get in that area. Like they just have it so dialed in. They have like these, you know, they do, sometimes they'll do an isolation route where he'll just line up on one side. Sometimes they'll do combo routes where it's like a screenplay.

But they have it so dialed in. They're so good at that. Devante Adams is so good at shaking guys off the line of scrimmage that it's like legitimately just a layup for them. I don't think it's because he's the only guy. I think it's because he's like unstoppable. You know what I mean? If anything, I think Cobb might eat into a little bit like Tonian's role. Because Tonian scored like 10 or 11 touchdowns or whatever.

That's probably just not going to happen again. I think that Cobb is going to get some of that work. He's going to be the de facto number two, I would guess. You know, unless it's like MVS, Lezard, I would guess that Cob will come in there and get a pretty good role. So in 2018, which is the last time he was with Green Bay. He had 61 targets, 38 catches, 383 yards, and two touchdowns in nine games. That's an average of almost seven targets a game, four catches, 42 yards a game.

So 16 game pace, he'd be over 100 targets. 68 catches, 68 yards, 4 touchdowns. I don't think that's like, you know, he's not going to be a wide receiver 2 in fantasy. No, I think he might be a flex. Beasley. Yeah, he might be a flex option. I don't think he's particularly sexy, but I think he'll be a serviceable player to start on your fantasy team. You know, most weeks.

Also, that was, remember, that was like three years ago. And he's not young. He's the spring chicken. He's like 32 or something. No, he's 30. 30, okay. Which is younger than I thought. His birthday is August 22nd.

He'll be turning 31 in a few weeks. Okay. Get him something for his birthday. Okay. Can I give you guys one? Yeah. Yeah. A stock up?

I need your help with the evaluation. This is me coming to you in a moment of weakness. So I'm thinking about Sony Michelle for the Patriots. when that seemed his grandma's like my fingers hurt and you're like your fingers hurt

well now your back's gonna hurt because you just pulled landscaping duty I was like I think first of all unbelievable I feel like for like a month I've been thinking

Sony Michelle was going to get landscaping duty like the Patriots were just going to cut Sony Michelle I feel like he was not going to make the roster and that just sucked me into the Damian Harris

vortex that I was in last season where I just love Damien Harris he's a really good player. And I just feel like he's such so prime for this two down role for the Patriots. It's like he'll get first and second. James White gets the passing work. And then Ramandre Stevenson, who's like the, he's a rookie fourth rounder who's probably going to like red shirt or apprentice. And now Ramonji Stevenson apparently is just not playing well. And Sony Michelle

splitting with the ones. And it's like, is Sony Michelle going to make this team or what, D.K? I got no idea, man. Is he getting landscaping duty or not? Prior to this week, I was under the assumption that Sony Michelle was just going to get cut or traded immediately. But based on multiple beat reports from the last week or so, he looks explosive, he looks fast, he's getting reps with the ones. He's not going anywhere. It's like in rounders when he's just like, when Teddy KGB is like hanging around, hanging around.

Or... He's just hanging around, man. Are the Patriots just doing this to inflate his trade bill? Maybe, maybe. Well, I also just, I mean Imagine trading for Sony Michelle. Who the fuck is going to trade for Sony Michelle? No, I still think, oh, the offense.

I still think he gets cut, though. And I still think that I love Damien Harris. I'm irrational. I love Damien Harris. I understand I'm probably conflating, like, a good player with good fantasy value. But I just love Damian Harris. I feel like that the Patriots are going to want to run more.

And I just love Damien Harris, man. But maybe I'm just wishing this was a thing. Maybe I'm the one pulling him. Yeah, you're projecting a little. Am I? Am I pulling landscaping duty? You might be, yeah. We've been wanting Damian Harris

to be a thing for a long time. I want Mac Jones and Damian Harris to be the Patriots offense and I don't think that's going to happen. Yeah, it sounds like Cam Newton on Tuesday was much, much better than Mac Jones. But then today, apparently,

it says Cam Newton struggled with accuracy today and Mac Jones was sharp. It's back and forth. It's so stupid, dude. It's so stupid. It's like checking your stocks every day. Oh, my God, seriously. That actually is exactly what it's like.

Here we are doing stock up, stock down. That's where we're doing park. We're doing above and below par Which we have not checked in on like a half an hour Okay, well can we So another guy who seems to be On the rise but you never know It's like three days in a row of the stock being up

You can you know Don't freak out Tua So Tua apparently has been good Yeah DK has been sending his little Beat reporter tweets into us And we're reading that you know Twoa six touchdowns no picks

Bob while he's completing deep pass Notice the DK was super silent When he had the zero touchdown six pick day We just get the six touchdown zero pick days Just six picks now. I believe it was only four, but still. Maybe it was five. I can't remember.

People are like, oh, you know, he's more effortless now. So listen, I am not a believer in Tua, but if he does pan out this year, it reminds me of this quote. I'm stupid, you're smart. I was wrong. You were right. You're the best. I'm the worst.

You're very good looking. I'm not attractive. All right. As long as you're willing to admit that. He's like, as long as you can admit that. I'm stupid, you're smart. That's almost the decay. You're very good looking.

I'm not attractive. But so Tua's having a good camp and this wants me, this makes me want to talk about the wide receivers. And in particular, Will Fuller. Is there a chance that we are underrating Will Fuller just a tad. He's basically going as the wide receiver 40. And I think we're overreacting a bit to the one-game suspension thing. Most players don't play 16 games. I know Will Fullard never does, but like missing one game, I don't think should really affect somebody's value too much. I know his

QB is not as good as Deshaun Watson. But he was the wide receiver six last year in points per game, six. And now he's going to the wide receiver 39 in our rankings, essentially, on an offense that isn't projected to be terrible. I would say they're projected to be like a middle of the road offense. But, you know, I know there's a lot of mouths to feed, blah, blah, blah,

but it's like you have Devante Parker who didn't have any chemistry with Tua, and you have Jalen Waddle, who's a rookie and had ankle problems all of last year. And then you have Will Fuller, who's one of the most dynamic receivers in the league,

and he's getting drafted behind guys like Jerry Judy, Juju, Brandon Cooks, DJ Chark. Is this correct? So that's an extremely convincing argument. The one thing I want to push back on is that he's getting faded

because he has the week one suspension and not because he's had one excellent season in his career he's been healthy for and then immediately got pop for PEDs. No, he's good every time he's on the field. It's not like he's never been good. Yeah, he's always been good. No, I know, he's never stayed on the field. I know, I'm just saying, and like, look,

we loved Will Fuller last year. We were on Wolf Fuller. We all had them. I'm like, all of our teams and all loved it. And then we're all very disappointed. It all got very upset and lashed out. Maybe I'm still lashing out. I think the question, though, is just how much is he,

there's just, I think I'm down with two things. that can be true at the same time. I actually like the idea of the dolphins having a good downfield passing attack this year and I like the idea that too can progress. I just don't know how to turn that into fantasy value with this receiving group because these guys just aren't on the field right now.

To me, that's my concern. But Wolfler is extremely talented. I just feel like we just have so little information about how any of these guys are going to be used. But he's being drafted as the, he would be the fourth wide receiver on your fantasy football team. Like, the guy who, was the wider receiver six last year and who's healthy

is he can be the fourth guy on your team like okay if he sucks big deal he's literally not even starting for you yeah i think it's great value would you take him over jerry judy no that's tough what about you dk probably not because i think judy's going to blow up this year um i think i would take him over juju i would take him over brandon cooks i would take him over maybe dj shark what about dibo yeah i think i think i would take him over dbo too i So, yeah, I think that as the hype continues to Bill Latua, we keep seeing more and more clips from training camp of him

launching these deep bombs down the field, which is something he absolutely did not do last year. Last year it was very hit or miss. He never really got into it. But that's his whole thing, D.Ks, he's good at the deep ball, right? He was great at Bama. Yeah, he's extremely, extremely accurate down the field. He throws a beautiful deep ball.

He's got kind of like the Russell Wilson moonshot deep balls, like where he just, like, lofts it right down into his receiver's hands. and he's doing that. He has the best spiral I think I've ever seen. Maybe it's just because he's left. It looks different to me. I actually feel like I've never seen a football that looks like to his football.

He really does. I think I, Hyviz, I think I even wrote that in like my scattering report last year when I was putting Tua's thing together. It's like, he just has a pretty deep ball.

It's just like, just like slices through the air effortlessly. Joe Shad from the Palm Beach, from the Palm Beach Post today, said, Tua Tegaloa just completed a deep pass down the right side.

line to Miles Gaskin. What's different about two his throwing motion this year? It just appears more effortless. Well, here's what's different. He is not coming off of a potentially career-ending hip injury. That could potentially affect

his whole throwing motion, his whole, you know, like biometrics, essentially. Just think about that. Do you need your hips to throw a football, though? Yeah, I think it's important. Just watch DAC, baby. It's not like a kidney where, like,

you just only need one. It's all core, baby. But yeah, I mean, this is a, the drumbeat is building, and, you know, Shad mentioned at Barry Jackson for the Miami Harold mentioned it.

We were just getting more and more reports that he looks much more comfortable, much more natural. And again, that's like his game. It's very like,

he's in the rhythm of the offense. He drops back, kits his back foot, launches a bomb. That was what he did at Alabama, and it's just like a natural

fluid thing. And he's getting back to that. I think we have a hard time believing as fans that a player can be on the field playing and starting and is not even close

to 100%. I think we just kind of assume if you're playing, you should be playing at your peak at all times, and that might be why I'm, like, not in on Tua, because, you know, I saw him at Bama a little bit, but last year I was like, this guy doesn't have it, and it's kind of like,

it's, I'm anchored from his rookie year. Yeah, I think a lot of people are. And, I mean, I think that's fair because there's so many rookies that come in and look like shit, and then they just never get good. But I don't know, man. I'm kind of buying this.

All right, so we're, two is better, but I think it's less about Tua for fantasy than it. is, okay, someone who deserves to be anchored, Sammy Watkins for the Ravens, I hate to do this. I don't want to do this, but we're going to do it.

Do it. So people are talking of Sammy Watkins. Yeah. People are talking of Sammy Watkins. Which, first of all, the fact that there's Sammy Watkins preseason hype reminds me of when Shooter McGavin's like, this guy spends more time in the sand

than David Hasselhoff. And the other guy's like, yeah, that was funny the first time I heard it. I'm like, yeah, the Sammy Watkins type was cool when I heard it in 2015. That was cool. Yeah. And every single year after. Every training.

and every week one, I feel like I'm putting on the mini golf course against the fucking clown. And every time I'm like, oh, Happy Gilmore is going to be, or Sammy Watkins is going to be good this year. And then he goes, and laughs at me. And Happy goes, ah, he's laughing. He's having a good time. He's laughing. He's having a good time. Good for you. Yeah. That's how I feel about Sammy Wockett's laughing in my face every time I think he's going to be good. They hate that clown. You're going to die, clown. Yeah. I hate that clown.

And yet, despite all of this, I have to bring this up because here's the thing. Marquise Brown has a hamstring injury that is worse than the Ravens originally thought and they have no timetable for Marquis Brown to return. Can I just say, God damn it. And he's a speed guy. So just as Craig was just saying about some guys are like, hell, like you assume they're on the field, they're healthy. Speed guy returns from hamstring injury doesn't mean he's 100%.

That's a problem. Rashad Bateman, one of their top picks in the draft, muscle is. like not practicing muscle tightness. Miles Boykin, who even at this point, he's kind of a special team's guy, hamstring injury. All the other receivers seem to not be practicing. Meanwhile, Sammy Watkins is according to the offensive coordinator, Greg Roman, one of the best receivers in the NFL period.

And apparently Watkins has just been the best receiver at Ravens Camp period. So my question for you guys, we do not have Sammy Watkins ranked. Do we have to rank Sammy Watkins? Do we have to tell real human beings that they should draft him? Starting to feel like it. I hate that clown. I hate that clown. So.

Yeah, we have to rank them. I think we have to rank them, but I don't want to rank him. Listen, listen, I have a question for you guys. It's a simple question to say yes or no answer. Do you think Samuel Hawkins is good? I don't know. That's not. I straight up, I actually, I'm serious with this.

I think if you asked every NFL expert in the country, I don't think more would be confused about how to answer that question for any question you come up with that is Sammy Watkins good. I think if Sammy Watkins is 100% healthy, he is a top 50 or 60

wide receiver, like he deserves to be a starting wide receiver on an NFL team. Yeah, yeah. I think, yeah, the pendulum has swung too far back on Watkins where people are like, this guy sucks. He doesn't suck. He's just, he has been very inconsistent. And I don't know, maybe there's this thought that like the number two receiver

for the Chiefs is just like an irrelevant player because they're just going to funnel all these like snaps and targets to uh tyrie kill and and and travis kelsey here's the thing that people keep anchoring to and that that people keep going back to when sammy wakins was a second year player in gregg roman's offense for the bills he had 60 catches for 1,047 yards and nine touchdowns um and again that was in a gregg roman offense with tyra taylor at quarterback so it was a mobile quarterback you know, it was a run-heavy offense, which is what the Ravens are going to be this year.

I don't think it's, like, wild to imagine a scenario where Sammy Watkins goes over 1,000 yards this year. If he can get... No, no, my God. With Lamar, the least... With Lamar, who's... Oh, my God, that's insane. Maybe it is wild.

Maybe it is wild. You guys just freaked me out. Did I just... Is it so sane? Was that the hottest take I've ever given? That was like a Ted Ginn level take right there. I mean, listen, the Ravens run the ball more than any team in the league, and it's not like Lamar's dicing up secondary. He has 421 yards last year.

Okay, let me re-say this. How about 700? No, I liked it. I liked it better. You literally just said the last time he had 1,000 yards was with the same guy with the worst quarterback. This was with Tyra Taylor at quarterback. Lamar Jackson was the MVP. No, you got it backwards.

I'm saying the last time he did this was with the same coordinator, Greg Roman, but he had a worse quarterback when he did it. obviously Sammy Walker I immediately regret saying anything even though you're defending me right now I immediately regret it like hard no it's all right it's the same space no it's not it's a podcast

people listen to this shit there's nothing wrong with fucking backtracking I'm backtracking off of it yeah I don't please stop backtracking I immediately regret saying can people do me a favor email us at ringer fantasy football

at gmail.com and let us know if you think Sammy Watkins is good but I just I'm just so curious I have no idea. Everyone's opinion is equally as valid. I have no idea. I'm going to do a Twitter poll. We have. I just don't know.

I have no idea. Is he good? I don't. I already have like massive, massive, like, regret. Even saying that stuff about Sammy Watkins. All right, well, while we're backtracking, what do you think about the Trey Lance Jimmy Gropolo mess where we just completely lost her minds over Trey? And now people are like, well,

but Jimmy's the starter. So like, chill everyone. This is, we even talked about it on the last podcast, how we're like starting to really buy into the Trey Lance hype and, you know, I'm buying into the idea that he's going to be the week one starter. I think that still could be the case. However, this whole scene, this whole situation, the Garoppolo versus Trey Lance competition really reminded me the scene where Happy Gilmore, I think it's his first, it's his first stop on the tour, right?

And he's just like smashing the shit out of the ball off the team, but he, like, sucks at putting. It reminds me so much of the reporter is talking to Shooter McGowan. He's like, hey, what did you think of Happy Gilmore? And Shooter's like, I didn't get to see him play. I was too busy winning. And then he's like, you got to admit, though.

It's hell of a drive, 450 yards. And he's like, yeah, how do you finish? Dead last? Yeah, he had a good day, though. Thanks. Where's my chat? Shooter, shooter, what do you think of Happy Gilmore? I didn't get a chance to see him play.

I was too busy winning. You got to admit, that's a hell of a drive, 450 yards, huh? Yeah, how do you finish again? Dead last? Oh, yeah, yeah. He had a good day, though. Thanks. Is it true that you made a 400?

It really reminds me because basically like Shanahan, and look, I get it. We can't trust what Shanahan's saying, but we can trust the fact that Trey Lance is still not even getting first team reps. He got one first team rep, and it was because they were installing something in the run game. He's gotten one first team rep so far. And everything we're hearing, including, like, you know, like believable reporting out of San Francisco is that it's Jimmy Garoppolo's job to lose. Jeremy Fowler yesterday, feeling out of San Francisco is Jimmy G has been bawling out since OTAs. Definitely his job to lose. And then,

you know, basically, bottom line is like we're all enamored with the long drive. We're all enamored with with Tray Lance's tools, but the fact that he can throw it to the moon. He's mobile, all this stuff. But the question is, can he putt? Is he going to be good enough in all the details? where he's going to be the starter for this team and he's going to beat Jimmy Garapolo for this job. You know what I mean? Like I guess like where I'm going with this is like maybe

maybe we're like a little bit, maybe we need to like back like pump the brakes a little bit on this trail. We can pump the, let's set right now the expectations because it's also important to remember that as much as the Tray Lance thing was a little hyped, Jimmy G, it's not an accident that reporters are now

speaking out more in Jimmy G's defense. There are certain states. there are certain stakeholders, perhaps agents who are reading the same news we are and are like, huh, I don't like where this news cycle is going. Let's push back a little bit. Just remember that that's a real thing. So with all that said, I actually don't think, like, I think that the fact that Trey Lance is the week one starter, that's probably a little off. But the broad outline of what we're talking about Trey Lance, I don't think has changed at all. He brings more to the Niners. He literally brings a more, a bigger playbook with more options, a read option element, and

probably the best version of the Niners' offense is with Trey Lance. It is solely a question of when he will be ready to run that offense. I still think that that could very likely happen at some point early in the season. And I love Trey Lance as an upside quarterback because, again, the difference that Trey Lance or Justin Fields bring for upside and fantasy is the coming, is the rushing yards and the rushing upside, in addition to not sacrificing the passing stuff because they're still good. And that, you know what?

If you want a regular passing court, you can get Derek Carr whenever you want. I'm in a fantasy draft. I have no interest in Derek Carr on my bench. I'm not really interested in Kirk Cousins on my bench. I want Trey Lance and Justin Fields, even if they're not starting immediately. Because when they do,

they have the chance to be a top five guy every week. But Kyle Shanhan himself doesn't know when this is going to happen. I don't, so I think that as long as we're clear on that, you might have to wait. We don't know how long, but when they come,

they're probably going to be really good. I was too busy winning. Yeah, Jimmy, she. And also reminds me of the quote when the PGA Commissioner and Shooter McGovern are walking. They're like strolling through the course talking about kind of Happy Gilmore's fame and how he's, what he's doing to the sport of golf. And the commissioner's like, yeah, I mean, even I'm beginning to come around on Happy Gilmore. And I kind of see that as Kyle Shanhan and like all of the media being like, yeah,

even I'm beginning to come around on Trey Lance. And Shooter's like, everyone's beginning to come around in him. Well, I'm not, Doug. This man is ruining golf I think it's great what he's doing for the sport Well yeah I'm beginning to come around Yeah Everyone seems to be coming around

Well I'm not Doug This man is destroying golf I saw two big fat naked bikers In the woods off 17 having sex How am I supposed to chip With that going on Doug You've got to kick him I saw too big fat

Bikers having sex Up 18 Shooter had a point though Like there was a lot of assault Like Happy Gilmore Honestly should have spent at least one night in jail He just punched a lot of people. You can't behave like that.

He pulls the shirt over the guy's head and punches him out. You cannot behave like when he makes that put and the guy's like, geez, he finally made. And he's like, yeah, right. I try it. I just couldn't make it. And he punches him in the face. I love that though, because that is a real hockey move where he grabs the shirt and does like, that is actually like, that's a classic hockey move. Shooter McGavin ordered a man hit Happy Gilmore with his car on the fairway. And then he drove it into a TV station. Dude, the pre-9-11 era was nuts because the security.

There was no security. Also, the car on the field, is that also Carson Wentz? Just the car just hitting him in the middle of the field? It's just so random. No, I guess the Tyler would be the guy who gets hit in the car. Well, I'm not, Doug. That's great. Well, I'm not, Doug.

This man is ruining the Niners. Dude, also, that guy never got arrested, did he? No. He ran away. The golfer with the car and got away with it. He just drives up the misdemean maniacic. He just runs away. Shooter?

Shooter? How about we go grab some grub? Red lobster, my tree? Sizzler. Sizzler. Go to the Sizzler. Are Sizzler still around? Is that a place?

Yeah, I think they're still cool. Oh, wait. Anyway, to round it all out, I feel like we're the first stop on the PGA tour when Happy Gilmore first comes out and he's like getting all this hype because he looks amazing. I ultimately do agree.

Like, I think he's going to end up being a starter. But I'm, I'm still waffling. I'm really waffling. I think if anything, maybe this is just like... But what's changed? You want Trey Lanser fields on your bench? What's changed?

Nothing has changed about that. Nothing has changed about that. However, I think it is important to point out. Like, Trey Lance has not been getting first team reps. You know what I mean? Like, and Shanna had even said it. Like, he's like, no, we're not splitting reps up. I thought Trey had one of his better days Saturday.

But that's nothing to move him up there with Jimmy or anything like that. Like, until he starts getting first team reps, he's not going to be the fucking starter in week one. That's my point. I still agree eventually he's going to be started. They didn't trade up to three to get him to not be the starter. But I'm waffling about like the first week thing. I realized I said this literally on the last episode that I was like buying it.

Now I'm waffling. I'm waffling, guys. You're a waffle house. We're going to make you sit in the waffle house 24 hours and every take that you take back. You can take an hour off your time. Another quick stock up out of Niners camp is Brandon Ayuk. Another second year guy who I really like a lot. He's impressed in camp.

He's kind of a best shape of my life. I know he's young, but, like, you know, he said he lost a bunch of fat, added muscle. He said he couldn't handle many punt returns last year because of his body. He now feels like he can. Listen, he was the wider receiver 17 last year and points for a game,

and we have him ranked as the wide receiver 28. I know that Kittles healthy. Debo, ideally will be more healthy. But, like, that's kind of baked into his price. I mean, he played 10 games with C.J. Bethard and Nick Mullins last year, and he was the wider receiver 17. And I think he's usurped Debo Samuel

as the most dynamic play in the Niners' offense, you know, other than George Kittle. He was a wide receiver nine last year and expected points for game. I mean, he's, I think IUC is another true explosion guy that could be a top 15 player come midseason.

So, I think that the second year breakout thing is something that we always have to keep in mind because I think everyone assumes, you know, because like, yeah, the big argument against Ayuk is that, well, he did it with Kittle and Debo not in the lineup for a lot of that. But,

Can we just, like, is there a world in which Iyuk just turns into, like, freaking, you know, I don't know who the good example is. Like, D.K. Metcalf is breakout season in his second year. Like, he turned, he went from being a very good rookie to being like an elite receiver in a second year, an elite, elite player. Is there a world in which Iyuk just turns into an elite, elite guy? I think I'm just intoxicated by the Niners in general and what they could be. Yeah.

I don't know. I'm bullish. I'm bullish on it. You want to get some quick hitters? out with the rest of the quotes? Yes. Sure. So I really wanted to get this one in there. This is just a quick one because we haven't really heard a lot of buzz about Matt Ryan.

And a lot of that I think is the fact that Julio Jones is now gone. And their offense is just so much less dynamic, even with Kyle Pitts, you know, in there and everything. But I kept thinking of every time anyone asked Matt Ryan about Julio Jones. He's like, happy Gilmore talking about his ex-girlfriend. He's like, oh, how's that nice girlfriend of yours? Oh, she got hit by a car. she's dead. And then he, Gabby Kilmer, like, goes out of his way to tell the girl he's, he's going after, he's like, hey, my girlfriend's dead, you know, she fell off a cliff and died on impact.

I just think, it's like Matt Ryan, just trying to put that in the past, you know, he's just, he doesn't want to talk about Julio anymore. When happy's out there in the suit, soaking wet, talking to Julie Bowie. Yeah, my girlfriend's dead, you know. She fell off a cliff and died on impact. Dude, the Julio one for me was just he can never get in the, he can never score a touchdown in the red zone. thinking of the ball when he's like go to your home ball are you too good for your home son of a bitch ball why didn't you just go home that's your home are you too good for your home answer me suck my white ass ball that's that's every fantasy manager the last eight years watching hulio in the red zone yeah it really is uh another one that i thought of

and this one this is not like a super fantasy heavy one but like the guy the kevin nielan character that Happy is gets paired up with on the tour who's just like very spiritual and like feelings. It just reminded me of Pete Carroll. He's like a lot of pressure. You got to rise about it. You got a harness into good energy, block out the bad. Harness energy block bad. Feel the flow. Feel it. It's circular. It's like a carousal. You pay the quarter. You get on the horse. It goes up and down and around. Circular. Circle with the music. Flow. All good things. Like can you just see Pete Carroll just whispering in Russell Wilson's ear? fuck Russell Wilson

That's Pete Carroll telling Craig How to set up the recording equipment For flying coach It's circular You put it in a quarter You get on the horse It goes up and down and around circular That's how he prepped for each pie

All good things He would just sit to himself And repeat that with his eyes close Oh my God The other one that I was dying at Was when I was like in a taste of Hill When he starts

When he starts with Happy Gilber starts beatings Shooter at the end And he's like You know what the embarrassing thing thing is, you've been doing this your whole life. Like that's the Taysam Hill, like just playing quarterback now. And he's like beating James and he's like, you've been doing this your whole life.

The Taysam Hill quote that I thought of, this one's really short. But like, you know when Happy convinces Virginia to go ice skating with him and he gets him on the ice and he immediately just, he just straight up can't ice skate. He's like almost falling down. She goes, you used to play ice hockey and he goes, shut up. And I just think of, I think of that when I'm thinking of like, Taysome Hill, I'm like, you're a professional quarterback. Like, you're getting paid $20 million when you see him throw.

You're a professional quarterback. I don't know. Also, the other one we haven't talked about is Ryan Fitzpatrick is just like a dead ringer for the caddy. Yes. Yeah, I can totally envision Ryan Fitzpatrick bathing in a pond somewhere outside, like Ashburn, Virginia. Does he have any lines besides the one that's like, and slanting left? Like, because Happy's like, I got to make some.

money. What do you think? Slightly downhill? And slanting left. I'm pretty sure that might be his only line in the whole movie. I love when Kevin Neal and puts the quarter down to mark his ball and he steals it and pockets it. That's so good. Also, speaking to which way, what about us? Like, where's our subway free for life card? Seriously. Hey, Happy. Can I have one of those? The other one I have to throw out here, which is very important, is when I can't believe we didn't get this to this yet, but when Bob Barker beats the crap out of Happy. I don't want to be it. I want the whole thing. All I can think is that's every time I get in an argument with D.K.

It's like, I just think, just D.K., it's just the old guy. I want the whole thing. Now you've had enough, bitch. And then a D.K. comes back and it's like, nope. Now you've had enough. My favorite, my favorite move in that whole fight is Bob Barker grabs him by the chest and just throws happy onto his upper back. It's like the best old man move.

He just grabs him and throws him onto his back. No, the old man move is he does seven jabs in a row. Yeah, he's like sparring. There's no combos. It's just jabs. By the way, can you, Craig, can you play just a snippet of this fight scene? Because this fight scene has the most incredible sound effects I've ever heard. Like I was listening to this movie with my headphones on and the punching noises are classic.

You like that old man? You want a piece of me? I don't want a piece of you. I want the whole thing. you want a piece of me old man now you're gonna get it bobby now you're gonna get it bob barker is 97 years old still kicking

holy shit now you've had enough and then as he walks away he's like shadow boxing he's like still going still going that's dick after every pod with man just like piece me in an argument and then it's just like starts boxing throw punches all right i think that's what we got i do want to say uh i want to revive the emails

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to get the perfectly straight lines. But light pollution is screwing up the dung beetles and all the other animals that navigate by starlight. Anyway, that's not the point. The real point is email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com, and we're going to get more fun fact

going at the end of the episode. So please, send us your fun facts. Love it. Maybe we'll bring back trivia too later in the year. We got a lot, a lot coming. A lot going on. All right. Oh, I, I,

DK. Looked like he had another quote left. I thought you were like loading something, DeK. No, I was, I'm looking for a song. I'm looking to, I'm trying to figure out who I'm supposed to shout out. I did, I was going to mention the, the Giants brawl, and my quote was going to be the one that you already used about, my fingers hurt, and Joe Judge is like, oh yeah? Well, you guys just pulled Lans.

landscaping duties. Oh, to anyone else's finger certain. All right, we're all pulling landscaping duty. All right. Thank you for listening. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you, Happy Gilmore. Thank you, Lauren. Thank you, Lauren. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, Leonard Skinner. Literally thank you, Lauren for this one, because SNL, Adam Sandler, we wouldn't have done this without Lauren. So actual thank you to Lauren. Yeah, for all we know, Lauren produced Abby Gilmore. I feel he did all those movies. An angel band. The Leonard Skinner quote is, yeah, it's from that, it's from the movie. It's like the Happy Gilmore theme song, essentially.

Oh, yeah. I'm in the front row. I'm hammered drunk. All right. Thank you, everyone.