The Ringer NFL Show - Waiver Wire Pickups for Week 10

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

SHOWDOWN TIME! Must-add players at each position ahead of NFL Week 10 (1:19). Check out The Ringer’s Fantasy Football Rankings for positional rankings, waiver wire pickups, and much more! Fanduel.com/ringerffs is live! RB: Keaton Mitchell (Ravens), Zach Charbonnet (Seahawks), and Antonio Gibson (Commanders) (2:13) WR: Quentin Johnston (Chargers), Noah Brown (Texans), and Demario Douglas (Patriots) (10:12) TE: Taysom Hill (Saints), Jonnu Smith (Falcons), and Cade Otton (Buccaneers) (19:08) QB: Kyler Murray (Cardinals), Josh Dobbs (Vikings), Bryce Young (Panthers), and Taylor Heinicke (Falcons) (33:07) D/ST: Seattle Seahawks (37:12) Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out theringer.com/RG to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens and Jack Sanders Producers: Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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My Twitter's, Danny underscore hyfitz, my Instagram, Stady, hyfits. So we're going to go through our must-add players entering week 10. Here's that works. We're just going to go position by position. We're going to pick our top pick from the waiver at that position, but like waivers, only one person gets it. So then we fight over them, so we do trivia as a tiebreaker because waiver order would be really boring and arbitrary. So then we're going to pick the other ones when you fail and lose and don't get the guy.

It's not that complicated. I promise. Email is for ring your fantasy football at gmail.com. If you have trivia questions, make sure it's a number. Or just emails things about Galileo or something we talked about. Or football or. yeah, fantasy court, whatever you want. Ring your fantasy football at Gmail.

And then also at the end of the show, now we're doing Kai's guys where producer Kai has to pick which of our waiver guys are the best. And then if he loses, he has to try new food because Kai doesn't really eat stuff. So this week, at some point, we're going to figure out the details. Kai is going to have to try something. We'll get to that at the end. We don't know what show we're going to do it on. Maybe he eats something on the Power Hour show, maybe on the preview show for Friday.

We're still figuring out what and when he will he be eating. We're going to hash that at the end. But for now, Football, DK, give us your number one running back. entering week 10, pretty bleak week on waivers. So good luck. I want to preface everything that we say for the rest of the episode with. It's kind of a weird week for the waiver wire. There's not a lot of really obvious ones.

But with running back, I'm going with Keaton Mitchell, Ravens running back. Very exciting player. What do you guys think? What did you have, hi, Vince? I had him too, and he's the only person I think I would be, like, excited about having. And even then it's like, eh. I mean, once the Ravens were up by so much, it's hard to kind of take whatever they did as serious or as any type of sign

for what's coming in the future. I mean, Justice Hill at 13 carries, but a lot of that was in garbage time. Kid Mitchell looked the best. Gus Edwards only had five carries, but they ran all over the Seahawks, and Keith Mitchell, undrafted guy, he was on IR to start the season

and returned, I think, three weeks ago and has kind of slowly been worked back in, but he looked awesome. He had 130-plus yards on, what, nine or ten touches. So I'm going with the same, but he could have two carries next week. They're also playing Cleveland,

next week. I don't know. That's the thing. We were like definitely grabbed these people. Like there was one of these weeks we were like, oh man, all the Josh's. There's Josh Reynolds and there was Josh Downs and Josh Palmer were like, look at all these Joshes. Now it's like, whoever going to cut for these people, probably not worth it. Like just keep the guy you're going to like they're so meh that unless you really need to plug in play someone desperately, but I agree. It's not exciting because I feel like the Ravens are splitting their carries between four people, Lamar Jackson and then Keaton Mitchell. I do think Keaton's ahead of Justice Hill though now. Yeah. Do you want to hear what John Harbaugh had to?

say about this? It's really illuminating. Okay. Ready? I'm sure there will be a rotation. Sometimes it's by certain schemes. Sometimes it's by who's hot. Sometimes it's by who's tired with running backs. It just kind of depends. Thanks, Guy. We've never done this. Should we all just quit and not take heat and Mitchell?

This is the whack-a-mole. We were talking about the snip-snap. Just like... Well, here's the problem. I don't think there's any better options this week on the waiver wire. Well, I think the move is, is you go stash. I would say, right? You go get Tage Spears. who's under 40% on ESPN, he's 41 on Yahoo percent rostered. Like, go get him. And then if Derek Henry gets hurt, you get a guy.

Or Zach Charbonate. Why don't we do a really begrudging Keaton Mitchell's showdown time and then we can go through the stashes? Yeah, and I think we just add the warning. Like, maybe this is just also a stash. You know, this is a guy to put on your bench. And if it works out, it works out. If not, then you can always drop him a week or tune it from now.

But he is, I think by far the most exciting running back that's out on waiver wires right now. Okay. It is. Keith Mitchell. Showdown time. Wow. Come measure it with how we said.

Come on, Craig. This email's from Joe. Joe. Joey. Joseph. How many websites are on the internet? What? Oh, for crying out loud.

This is one of those like, like, you know, how much is a cloud way where I could go. I don't even know how to do that. I don't even know what I genuinely. Are we talking billions, trillions, quadrillions? The English websites that you know. And now think about all the other countries there are. I also have websites. Also, dumb question.

Like, who knows this answer? How do you find this answer out? So I'm not going to lie. He's a hyperlink here, and I'm really hoping it's legit because I felt like if I clicked on it, it would be... It's the dark web.

And if not, we're going to go with the answer in this hyperlink whether or not it's correct. Wow. I didn't know how to fact check this without finding the answer. I might sound like a moron with my answer. Are there more podcasts or websites?

Definitely websites. What? I was kidding. Come on. Okay. Okay. It just feels like there's more podcasts. All right, do you got an answer?

I'm going to sound like an idiot. I feel like no matter the answer I choose, it will be way off. And you guys won't even be close to me. Yeah. Even better. Let's just do it then. 3, 2, 1. 25 million.

Billion. Oh. Hifitz and I both said a billion. Wow. See, look, I wasn't even close. Okay. The answer is, as of June 2023, 1.1 billion. Wow.

That's incredible. Look at us, D.K. How are we going to break this tie now? I want a Rochambeau? Well, for scoring purposes, and our trivia scoring, how do I determine who won here? We have other, we can do, all right, fine, here. This one's from Ben.

Ben. Based on data from the Social Security Administration's baby names database, over the last 100 years, how many babies in the United States have been named Cloice? In the last 100 years? Yeah. I feel like we've done this one. I think we actually have done.

And the internet might have happened, but I thought it was so good that I kind of didn't mind repeating it. How many babies in the last 100 years have been named Cloice? Yes. Okay. Do you know your answer? Sure. Okay.

Three, two, one. One thousand. Oh my God. What? All right. What we have to stop doing is we have to start picking these like really round and perfect numbers. You got to just start saying like one thousand and four, things like that. I'll let you tweak it.

You want to go over or under? There we go. Yeah, I'll take 1001. You take 1,000. Okay. The answer is 380. Damn it. So I guess I begrudging to get Keith Mitchell.

You get to, you take someone. Let's see here. Let's see here. I guess I'm going to go with, this is just another stash, Zach Charbonnet. Again, this is a guy we talked about last week. He ended up playing more snaps than the Seahawks. The game script was so wacky. They were down big, this whole game that it's like, I don't really know if we can take anything

from what happened in this game. But I do think the Seahawks are going to make over the second half of the year. a concerted effort to get him more touches. And obviously he has a ton of upside. This is like a flex with benefits type guy. He has a ton of upside if Kenneth Walker gets hurt. So I'll go with Zach Charmone. Yeah, I don't mind guys that if there's an injury, like, you can cut at any given point.

But if there's an injury, they're just like, you can play them every week the rest of the year. So it's like that makes sense to just have it a week like this. Yeah, Craig mentioned Tage Spears for like the 10th week in a row. It's like if Derek Henry gets hurt, which science has yet to prove as possible. but if Derek Henry gets hurt, Dasha Spears would be like the top 15 running back every week. Can I just go with third here? I mean,

I'll just go with Justice Hill, the guy who, you know, has been putting up seven to ten points a game for the last five weeks for the Ravens. I'll pick the guy who's actually been there. Good luck. Thanks.

As someone who like has loved Justice Hill and been very confused why the Ravens haven't played Justice Hill more of the whole season, I watched Keith Mitchell. I was like, uh-oh, he's better than Justice Hill. I like, the whole year, I'm like, why don't they play this guy? I'm like, oh, okay.

Yeah. I don't know. The whole Ravens backfield has never made sense. I feel like every year we can't decide if Gus Edwards is good or not. We've been doing that for four seasons now. There's a world where if Jacob Dobbins have never gotten hurt in his life, that Jacob Dobbins is like the greatest running back of the generation. It's like a top three running back.

Yeah. He's just like after Christian McAfrey, he's just like right there. Can we just get like Rashad Penny on the Ravens? So they could have another injured running back? He was on our TV this week. He was. We had two carries. I couldn't believe it.

The other guys that will shut out. Antonio Gibson from Washington, I think for simple, he's done nothing. If he's on a team, I think you could trade for him for literally nothing. Whoever has him might want to cut him. It's very simple. Brian Robinson, the running back plays a lot when Washington's winning and trying to run and kill the clock. And Gibson plays a lot when they're passing and trying to catch up. And Washington was playing a lot of defense and their defense was all right.

They traded away Chase Young and Monta's sweat. And I feel like Washington's defense is going to suck now. And they're going to be trailing a lot more. So when they're trailing, Gibson actually think is going to be like flexible. Like, you know, flex the benefits as Dick you would say. You know what? Can I change my answer?

I want Antonio Gibson. Yeah, do that. Because like the Gibson has Seattle coming up. Then the Giants who they'll crush. But then he's going to be playing catch up against Dallas and then Miami. Like, I actually think you might be able to play Gibson three of the next four weeks if you have to do it. Yeah. I'm like, yeah.

I like that. You'd do worse. He said about 20 touches in the last two weeks. All right, Kive, let the record state that I selected Antonio Gibson. Bleak though, man, at running back. Yeah, it's really, really tough. All right, wide receiver, where not going to lie, it's also super bleak. I feel like we were sustaining on a diet of like, you know, Rishi Rice and Tank Dell and Josh Downs.

Look at all these guys. They've all blossomed. They've become incredible. But now we have nobody to pick up anymore. DK. Number one receiver entering week 10. I always feel bad because this is like the sixth time I've mentioned this guy, but I'm going with Pop Douglas for the Patriots who, you know, just buy a hair over a handful of other guys. But I don't know.

His role continues to grow. He's like the de facto number one receiver in this Patriots offense. albeit not a very good offense. Craig? Am I crazy because I'm going to pick a guy who hasn't played yet? I'm going to pick Quentin Johnston because Josh Palmer went on IR. And I think Quentin Johnson's is good and explosive. And they have no Mike Williams.

They have no Josh Palmer. And it is Keenan Allen, it's Austin Echler, a beat up Gerald, old Gerald Everett tight end and Quentin Johnson, who's like the only guy in this team under 27 years old. So I just, I'm buying the upside with Quentin Johnson. Pop Douglas is fine, and he's probably the safer floor pick. But if there's a guy who I think can have 150 yards tonight, and I might eat my words, it's Quentin Johnson.

I think that probably is smart. I'm torn between Quentin Johnson. So there's also Noah Brown on the Texans who had 153 yards in a touchdown, and I'm torn between two things. We're on one hand, Noah Brown, 153 yards in a touchdown, is probably not going to do that again, right? But then on the other hand, I keep thinking, Quentin Johnson, does he have 100?

How many yards does he have on the whole season? He has 114 and 12. So I keep going back and forth. But I hear what you're saying, Craig, where it's like second half the season just betting. He's a second half rookie. And he wasn't playing.

He was just getting started. There was Mike Williams and Josh Palmer ahead of him. It's like, to me. He could do anything even be a Noah Brown. He could even be a Noah Brown. Get that. Noah Brown hasn't done anything all year.

He had one good game. I know. I'll do Clinton Johnson with you fine. Hell yeah. And the thing about Pop Douglas is like it goes back to my, to my Terry McLaurian, every catch is a miracle.

Like, I just don't want anyone on the Patriots. I'd rather just have the guy, Justin Herbert's throwing to. That's understandable. It's understandable. All right. This trivia is from Michael. Wait.

Mikey? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It is the, I'm going back to high energy now. It is the Quentin Johnston. Shout out Kai, TCU, showdown time. All right. It's from Michael. Mike.

It's about Luda. Okay. You mentioned Ludacris' esteemed career as an actor and Too Fast, Too Furious, and then all the way to Fast 10. He also sat a successful solo career, Grammy's number one Billboard singles, all these things. A lot of features. He was in Glamorous by Fergie.

Yeah, by Usher, Baby by Justin Bieber. And at one point, the highest certified single of all time, baby, three billion views. And so according to celebrity net worth, what is ludicrous's total net worth?

I did not know he was a producer on Baby. He's on it. He's on the song. He was featured artist. It shows you how much I know about that song. I think Craig and I were like 13. That's definitely like who was four too. That was my least favorite era of music

when it was like pop star has a rapper do a verse and the big, like, algorithm-created pop song. Oh, yeah, that happened a lot. Yeah. Also, I don't know if that ever ended. Kendrick Lamar was on Taylor Swift's bad blood. It's like, what are we doing here?

I'm going to go, okay, I'm ready. Three, two, one, I guess. 70 million. Wow, you went really fast. I said three to one. I was going to say 150. You went three, two, one, and then forgot to say your answer? I did, actually.

Okay. Because D.K. said something, and I was listening, and I was like, oh, this is my spot. I kind of blew it. 150. I said 70. The answer is 30, 30 million. Only 30?

I know, you think nine Fast and the Furious movies, you can be a little better than 30. I'm also like 99% sure that most of these online net worth answers are super wrong. Yeah, that's probably true. You don't think that, you don't think Ludacris is like updating how much is worth on this random website. He's got an extra 30 in the Cayman Islands, you know.

Yeah, don't even worry about it. Do you imagine if they were all right and that like the IRS and everything was just like, wow, we got to use this? It just feels like they're all. Yeah. So you're saying I should have won. Well, I mean, even if it's double, I still win. Even if it's triple, I still win. All right, math guy. All right, fine. You get, you get Johnson. I'll just take Noah Brown, dude. You guys are fighting over a player hasn't even played yet. I really hope he goes off tonight now.

What is? So I'll just take Noah Brown just because, you know what? I don't know if he's good. It probably wouldn't happen again. But like, what if it does? We got nothing else going on this week. That's the extent of my analysis. The other thing I'll say, Michael Wilson, the rookie receiver for the Cardinals. He didn't play this week. He's hurt. This is a good one. Kyle Murray is coming back. It's just like if Michael Wilson and Kyler Murray on the 14% chance that they actually have a really good connection immediately,

just have him on your bench. And if he sucks, then just cut him. But I'd rather have him on your bench and see what happens and Kyler comes back. Same for Ron Dale Moore if he's out there. Just take a roll of the dice. Michael Thomas has been all right. I mean, sorry, Michael Wilson has been all right.

Funnily enough, he actually has been kind of like Michael Thomas in the sense that he's basically like three to four catches 50 to 60 yards every week he's on the field. And with Kyler coming back, we need Kyler back because the Cardinals are an abomination. I got to say, I feel bad that the Cardinals are forced to play a game every week.

I look at his cousin, I'm like, God, these guys got to play again? They got to keep playing. Give them a couple buys. Let them play 14 weeks. Just sim the rest of the season. Jonathan Gannon really is Kendall Roy. And I was like him sitting on the side of the side of his arms crossed with the sunglasses.

And you know that when they started, where they start like one and one or one and two, that he was like, we got this. Like, we beat the Cowboys. We almost should have beat the Giants. should be two and one. And then now they're just, it's sad. My impression, though, has not been the vibes are super terrible for them for some reason.

I don't know why. I'm like maybe even though they're like one in seven or whatever they are, they've, they've exceeded expectations just in how they've played. And so everyone's like, no one really talks about it or thinks about them. I think that you're right in theory, but you also have skipped the last couple weeks where they lost this week, 27 to zero to the Browns and ran 41 plays and get 55 yards. Okay, but like that vibes aren't great anymore. You're imagining 55 yards on 40, how hard that is?

How many plays was it? They ran the Cardinals, 27 to nothing. Shout out Sal, Sal on his bets on Sunday morning, gave out Cardinals lowest score and get everything. And the Cardinals ran 48 plays, gained 58 yards. No.

Yeah. If you include the sack yardage, you take the sack yardage away, then yes, that's what happened. It's pretty bad. That's pretty difficult. Are we going to see Kyler next week?

I sure hope so. What do you think the point is of bringing Kyler back? I mean, I know it's like, A, if he's healthy and wants to play, you need to probably play him. But like, is this just an audition tape for them to try to send him somewhere else? Well, no, I think that you have, it's a new GM and it's a new coach. And like, you have to, you have to play him because it's like, I think you want to see him coming back from an ACL. And you want to be like, you've heard about him from the outside. But you want to see him play and be like, do we, we have two first run picks, maybe one of the first two.

Do we take Caleb Williams or Drake May? or do we like take Marvin Harrison Jr. or do we keep Kyler and pay him or do we like take a guy and then trade Kyler? Like I think you want to see him for six games, don't you? So you don't think they already know what they want to do if they have the number one pick? No. No way.

Think about it. You know what I've increasingly realized as we get further into this and I cover this longer? At the end of the day, the people doing this, they're just people. They're changing their mind all the time. Like think about if you have the first pick in your fantasy draft. You change your mind.

You're like, I'm going to take Justin Jefferson. and then like a week later, like, oh my God, Christian McCaffrey sounds good. And it's like, it's the same thing. It's like Kyle Shannon. They trade up for the third pick.

They're going to take Mac Jones. And they're like, man, Tray Lance looks real good. Meanwhile, the whole time the answer is probably neither. Yeah. It's like, wow. It's like,

I honestly think it's the same thing. The Cardinals have probably been cycling between wow, Kyler, wow, Drake May, wow, Caleb Williams. Wow, Marvin Harrison for like three months. They're just going to owe them a lot.

I mean, next year, his cap hits $51 million dollars, Kyler Murray. Yeah, it reminds you the Giants where it's like, well, who else are they going to pay? Are there three players in the Cardinals that should be on the team in two years? Well, it's like the idea is like, you know, you go get a bunch of guys in free agency and you draft Caleb Williams and you kind of start fresh.

Oh, yeah. I think that's fair. It just depends what you can get, because at the end of the day, I think, I don't know, part of me is like, I think it's. Like you go get T. Higgins and you draft Caleb Williams. Is that better than Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison, Jr.? I don't know. It also depends if they get the, well, to your point, it depends if they get the top two pick or not.

The, Kyler playing them. The worst case scenario for the Cardinals is kind of plays them. four to finish the year. Yeah, he plays them out of a top two, top three pick. But also doesn't play, like, he plays well enough to win four games, but doesn't play well enough that you're like, that's our guy. That would be a disaster. It is, it's honestly kind of a conundrum.

It is. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Wow, that actually seems super possible. And the problem is that the Cardinals have the Texans pick. And the Texans are incredible. Not incredible, but they're doing way better than. It's not going to be top 10. It's like the bears have the Panthers taking for them.

So right now, the Houston pick is. 16th that Arizona's getting. It's not nearly as fun as it was when you felt during the season, they felt they might get the top two picks. Next up here, tight end. D.K. is your number one tight end entering week 10? If you don't say Tayson Hill, I'm going to freak out. Wait, is he

included? Shoot. Yes, he's included. Okay. Well, then Tayson Hill for sure. Taysome Hill is the tight end eight on the air. He just keeps doing it. He threw a touchdown. He caught a touchdown, and he threw a touchdown, and he got 11 carries. He's Ledian Tomlinson. Kind of.

Yeah. So, someone, Kyle Mattson asked us, how far would you have to go back in time until Taysa Mill is the best player in the NFL? Again, like the Smush Parker would like put Bob Goosey in the spin zone. Like how far back until Tays and Mills the best? 50s? I don't know. Probably like Sonny Jurgensen wouldn't have, or Fran Tarket that wouldn't have had shit on Tazamil. Was it Sonny? Sunny.

Is it sunny? Why does he put an O in it? Sonny is often spelled S-O-N-N-Y. Is it? Yeah. I actually think all Sonny's like Italian. Is it Sonny in Cher or is it Sunny and Cher? It's Sunny and Cher, you maniac?

What are you talking about? What's the O for? S-O-N, as in Sun, as in my son. Oh, but you say that's not, oh, I get it. This is wild. You thought the name Sunny was named after like the giant star in the sky? I never thought about it. I just saw it.

You thought it was Sonny and Cher? Yeah, I did. This is the greatest day of my life. Has no one ever said the name Sonny and Cherty? You've only just read it? I guess, yeah.

Sonny and Shaddle. That's absolutely nuts. I've never heard this before in my life. Honestly, it might also be my parents with New York accents. That is true. That makes sexually a lot more sense. Sonny, Sonny.

Sonny Bono. That's what you call them. Sonny Bono. In the godfather, what's the oldest son's name? Santino. Oh no. What are they called? Is there no one's name Sonny in the godfather?

No, it is Sunny. That's, what's his name? James Khan. It's Sonny Corleone? It's the Sonny Corleone? What? Didn't you watch the movie? They say sunny?

He's sunny? Not Sonny? I feel like I'm on like... Is he fucking with us? I'm on TV right now, I think. I don't know. James Conn's character name is Sunny. And in the movie, Vito Corleone calls him sunny.

Well, he just speaks weird. I don't know. I thought he was. He says it's an awfully, I don't know. So, I don't know. It's like, because everything else they're like, oh, and N. It's like, what other iteration of that is like, oh, it's always like on, like, you know, Madonna or Donna, whatever. It's like, on.

I don't know. I read this when I was seven and I was like, okay, I know what sound that makes. And I never, never thought about it again. I just can't believe you've never heard anyone say Sunny and Share. I thought they were saying it wrong, to be honest. That is just. Sonny and Share. Sunny.

Oh my God. All right. The Godfather one is the one that I don't get because you assumed that the characters in the movie are pronouncing one of the other characters named incorrectly. Just Marlon Brando. I don't even thought about it too much.

Just the main character. You just thought like he doesn't know how to speak to his own son's name. He doesn't know how to pronounce his own son's name. I didn't think about it much. I don't know, man. Is this Sonny Corley? I don't know.

Sonny, Sonny. Sonny. I can't go over soon. Email us over your fantasy football at e-mail. So like the pitcher in the MLB, Sunny Gray. You thought it was Sonny Gray? Yeah, and he was on the Yankees.

And you thought it was, despite the broadcasters, just butchering it every time. I never thought about it too deeply now that you say it, but it makes a lot of sense. This is a good prompt because now I'm trying to figure out what words I've been pronouncing incorrectly for my entire life, like, completely ignorant of it. We get emails about, you mix metaphors all the time and no one is it. Yeah, I make metaphors all the time. That's a little different, I feel like the not knowing what Sonny and Cher was. No, I'm just saying that's what we get emails about. By the way, you never gave me a list of the mixed metaphors because I'm actually.

curious about this. I don't, I don't deny that I do it. I do it all the time. I just was curious, which ones I do. They'll come to me. All right. Well, anyway, tight ends. Tastom Hill. Tastom Hill showdown time. Email is the ring and fantasy football at gmail.com. Also, Sonny and Share trivia. Sunny. That is, what happened to him? Sani and Cher. I believe that him and, him and Cher, he and Cher obviously broke up, but there was a lot of, like, legal issues with him stealing a lot of rights away from her. I don't know what happened to him. He died in a skiing accident.

it. Oh, did he? But yeah, there's a lot of stuff about like Share getting screwed by him. All right, anyway, taste some hell. Anyway, Taysam Hill. Last three weeks, 18 points, 22 points, 14 points. Tasem Hill. I guarantee you there's not another tie end in the league who's had a three week stretch like that. He's a goal line quarterback. He literally, I mean, a couple weeks ago, DK was like, he's not going to run as many routes. Joanne Johnson's back. And literally this week, Juan Johnson line up stead end to Tasea Hill threw him a touchdown. He threw him a touchdown. I love that. All you need to know. It's kind of like for,

I feel bad for Camara in the, in the, I feel like Taysam Hill is Cal Notton Jr. And Camara is Ricky Bobby. Yeah. When he's like, you're ruining him a laugh. Like, look, he's like starting to just like steal his, steal all the goal line carries. He's like living in his house. He's living in his house. All right.

This email's from John. We're doing showdown to do with Tashville. Wait, wait, wait. It is the, I love that, by the way. I like the new era we're in where we're all very pro Taseem Hill. Yeah. I like it. It's more comfortable.

I'm happy we're here. He deserves it. It is the Taysom Hill showdown time. It's from John. John's Johnny. Jack. Don't start that again. Phil Collins' famous song in the air tonight has an iconic hard drum beat leading into the chorus,

made extra, extra famous by Mike Tyson, knocking out, Zach off and that. This is his character to hangover. Yeah. How far into the song is the drum beat? Oh, this is a good song, or a good question, I should say. Great question. Yeah, because he does like a whole. It's a whole

spiel. It is. It's a real slow buildup. I mean, the scene in the movie is like a minute and the song is playing in like they're halfway through the song. I have my answer. All right. Me too.

Okay. All right. Three, two, one. Two and a half minutes. Four seconds. Would you say Craig? I said one minute four seconds. Craig said two ten.

Two ten. I said two and a half. The answer is three minutes, 17 seconds. Wow. Damn. You know, my initial gut said. 250 and I didn't say it. That's a ludicrous amount of time.

It's a personal song, man. Talk about things that like don't happen anymore in music. Like, they do not make songs like that. Nobody does that. Well, I mean, bad guy by Billy Elish is like the same thing, basically. What? Not really is a joke. No, they just switched the song through.

What was it? Three minutes and something? 317. That was just like where they have like two songs. They're like, I don't know what to do with them. We'll just put them together and make it one song. You know that song Four Play Long Time by Boston? That's another song.

forever to get going, but it's great. Well, they used to do this a lot more in, like, the 80s. They would, like, mix up the structure of the... Like, money for nothing by dire straits. That song takes forever to get going. I'm just thinking, like, all the butt rock songs of the 80s and 90s had, like, really ridiculously locked. What you say?

What rock? What's you said? We've had this exact discussion before on the show. I don't know. Have we? I don't know if we have. I don't remember that. Yeah, we talked about butt rock. What is...

Neither Craig nor I recall. What is but rock? It's like hair, hair rock. Hair metal? Hair metal? Hair metal, yeah. But hair. Like, we're talking like Kiss?

Like type music? Yeah, let me find what it says on the internet. Like Arrow Smith and stuff like that? Or what are we talking? Careful about Googling butt rock. You Googled red hinky yesterday. This is according to Urban Dictionary, a style of hard rock and heavy metal that is watered down both musically and lyrically to garner maximum radio play.

Interesting. All right. Well, I'm to Taysam Hill. So Craig. So I get second here. Man, I'm like. tempted to pick John Hussmith, even though I hate everything that the

Falcons are doing. Well, Arthur Smith shaved his mustache. This is like, we should have started the show with this. Arthur Smith, Thalcans coach, shaved his mustache. Oh, did he? Yes. All right, then I'm definitely not going with John Hussmith. God, the Packers are so bad, too, when they're playing the Steelers. I was thinking about Luke Musgrave. I think

I'll go with John Hussmith playing Arizona. So, I thought about that. My only concern is Drake London was out, and so John Smith got the 5 for 100, but now I'm like, what if Drake London comes back? but he has a groin injured. I kind of think he might be out again. So I think every week.

Yeah, Jonah Smith's going to be boomer bust regardless, but I think yeah. Solid though. I mean, it's pretty good relative to the options. D.K.? Hyphids,

you're going to love this. But Rock, according to the internet, I think I was wrong. It's actually like Nickelback style bands. Ah. Like bands that are big on the radio. I was thinking like hair bands.

I don't even know like what the example would be like. Like Kiss. Isn't Kiss a hair band? Yeah, something like that. I was thinking that was butt rock. Or like poison or something? Exactly. or like Journey even

I felt like was in that category but it might not be at all Is Guns and Roses considered a hair band Guns and Roses? There's so many people screaming right now emails that ring of fantasy football Gmail if you want to like scream at us about this conversation

or the ghosts who are just screaming at us I feel like I'm kind of nailing it but we'll see just rattled off like a ton of 80s bands that are hair bands All right I'm gonna go with let's see here I guess I'll go with Kate Otten

would be the third choice It would be come down to him between Luke Musgrave and K. So K. Dotten had six sketches for 70 yards, two touchdowns this last week. He's had six plus targets in the last three games. He's been like a pretty big part of this offense. I would say he's much more of a boomer bust style option for the Buccaneers. But he's also always on the field. Yeah.

He plays. He runs in front of routes. He actually is like up there among the most routes run from the tight-up position. So he's at least out on the field. That's good. Can we show? little love. This guy is not eligible for this, for this competition, but he's kind of, you know, Dalton Schultz is a top 10 tight end in the NFL now. And basically, they had that one good year

in Dallas and everybody wrote him off. And now he's just like back in Houston and revitalized. And he's been awesome the last five weeks. He's been the top five 10 in the league the past five weeks. And just looks like an immediate, like, like if you drafted Evan Ingram and you added Dalton Shultz, you're probably now just starting Dalton Shultz over guys like Evan Ingram over guys like, if Pat Fryimuth ever comes back, like, it's not even a question. Dalton Shultz is like back in the mix

and next year, I think we'll be drafted as a top 10 tight end. I think tight end's fixed. I got to tell you, we've complained about tight end for so long, but next year now, like, I think when Musgrave, Dalkin, Kincade, Michael Mayer, like, as all these guys and then we get more in the draft, I kind of think that we're going to, at least

in 10 teams league, it'll be fine. I kind of agree. Fantastic, by the way. You're right. I'm Donald Sheltz's number on tight end this week, Craig. So, okay, other guys, I will shout out. Pat Fremuth, you mentioned Craig. If you don't have an IR spot in your league, Pat Fremont, might be on waivers and he might come back. He's solid. The other guy is Hunter Henry, D.K., so I'm a Pop Douglas. I think Hunter Henry hit a fine week this week. I don't think it's a coincidence that, so the first two weeks of the season, when the Patriots' Corps wasn't really figured out, Hunter Henry's pretty solid.

And then he kind of like has done nothing. And then now Kendrick Borns after the season, Hunter Henry's back. I kind of think Hunter Henry might just, like, be the only viable Patriots player. If not, I think Pop, is probably a better player, a completely different player to what Dika is saying. But the reality is floor is just lower at tight end. I think Connor Henry might just be viable going forward since the other person out throughout. I'm going to get to quarterback of defense and some emails. But first, we are supported

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If McCaffrey's a huge season, I kind of want to see if he could at least get to like 25 or 26 touchdowns. I just want to see something, someone to do something crazy like that again. Craig, do you have someone you're looking forward to in the second half of the season? Yeah, speaking of somebody, this guy's actually playing against McCaffrey this week. Trevor Lawrence and the Jags, I really want to see what Trevor Lawrence can do in the second half of the season

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Kind of brutal for week 10. However, I was like, Kyler Murray, if he's available, go get him. I don't just check. If not, Gardner mentioned for the cults, he didn't do much this week,

but the cults had two pick sixes and rocked the Panthers. Didn't need to. But now the cults are playing the Patriots that's in London. Like, I think Gardner mentioned solid. Josh Dobbs for the Vikings, host body, Quantum Leap.

Like, I just, how could you not root for Josh Dobbs? And also, if he doesn't know the plays, he's just going to run. He's like mad. It's like one reed, just bail run. So he's there. And then also Bryce Young for the Panthers, who bad week, but he threw three picks, still at 12 points.

Math guy, no picks would be 18. So, you know, there you go. Wow. Taylor Heineke, I think, is playing the Cardinals. I think that's one to look at. Silence. Nothing. Okay.

You know, yeah, maybe. Baker Mayfield. Kind of frisky. Yeah, just love the quarterback of your youth. just don't you don't want to be out here. Sam Howell, if you can get them, 62% rostered on Yahoo. Howell is, you know, any given week can pop up for 25 points.

He's averaging like 50 throws a game. Josh Dobbs, baby. Dodson is back. Yeah. Also, Josh Dobbs, I got an incredible email from Will. Will. Josh Dobbs, they flash this graphic on the TV. Josh Dobbs is the first player with a passing touchdown

and a rushing touchdown for two different teams in the same season. since Benny Boynton, Benny Boynton in 1921 who played for both the Washington senators and the Rochester Jeffersons in the same season.

He didn't get traded. It was a contract loophole. He worked for both. He just signed a deal with the... He was working... All right, you want this. The story's incredible. Went through the Wikipedia for Benny Boyton.

Okay, first of all, been called the second greatest football player of his era only after Jim Thorpe. He sat out the sophomore season of his football career instead served in World War, one as a gunnery sergeant in the United States Marine Corps, returned to college, captain of the football team,

and the basketball team and the baseball team, led the Eastern colleges and scoring. Had all the, 22 touchdowns, nine extra points. He was the kicker two. Then he left college, went to work at a steel mill. At a steel mill he was poached by a pro football team. He was like, get out of the steel mill, come work for us. He went, played for the Rochester Jeffers.

But then the Washington senators were like, want to play for us? And like, he just signed with them too. And no one noticed until it was too late because it was like. Pre-Internet. Played pro football. Bailed on that. Played for third team.

Then went to play pro baseball. Went back to pro football. Retired. Became a ref for 14 years. Founded the Southwestern ref conference. Refereed the first Cotton Bowl ever. The second Sugar Bowl ever. Then went into broadcasting.

Then went into radio. Then World War II happened. Went back to the U.S. Navy Reserve was a lieutenant commander in the U.S. Navy Reserve. He was in World War II and World War I? Yep. Good Lord. Named the Purple Street.

He was nicknamed the Purple Street because how fast it was. Purple Street. One of the greatest. What a cool nickname. What a life. Seriously. Wow. How many wars did Jim Thorpe fight in?

I don't know. What should should be like three? So Jim Thorpe played on nine teams as a player in his career and across the many sports he played. Do you think you could name three of the teams? Three of the nine. Chicago Cardinals. Correct. Yeah.

Wow. That was the last team he played on. there are all these teams The New York Yankees. One's from Canton, but I don't remember what it is. They're all like different. They don't exist anymore. It's like the Rochester Jeffers.

It's like these fake. Can I read you all the teams he played for? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess I shouldn't say it's nine because he played on a couple teams twice. But he played for the Canton Bulldogs. Oh, yeah.

Honestly, cool name. Cleveland Indians. The Urang Indians. The Rock Island Independence. The New York Giants. High Vince. The Tampa. Tampa Cardinals, which is not a thing I knew existed.

The Cardinals just played in every major American city. It's not in Tampa. It's been bouncing around. They migrate. And then the Chicago Cardinals. There you go. Streaming defenses. Just go get Josh Dobbs.

Purple Street Josh jobs. Defenses, if anyone dropped the Cowboys D, because they were playing the Eagles, just go do whatever it takes to get the Cowboys D. And the Chiefs see also, just go get the Chiefs. So anyone was like, oh, the Chiefs playing the Dolphins. Get the Chiefs D. if not again, streaming, brutal,

love the defense of your youth. Like, don't go out. I would say the Seahawks defense. I know. Toxic because they were destroyed by the Ravens. Doesn't matter. The plane washing in this week, Simaal went back to his ways,

three sacks to the Patriots. I think the Seahawks are going to sack. I think the Seahawks, a chance of double digits. Had it in mind, too. It doesn't feel right to do that right now after they just got completely annihilated, but I agree with that.

All right. Yeah, you could do like the Bengals versus the Texans, but like, I don't know, Cetcher's too good. I would just do Seahawks. Stick with whatever we got. This is a big moment. So now we're going to do Kai's guys.

Little Kai food section. Kai doesn't try a bunch of food. Kai's guys. We've got to figure this out. So every week, Kai chooses one of us to get behind. He chooses the three waiver players that we picked. And if he is correct in predicting the highest scoring roster, he doesn't have to eat a weird food.

But this time around, Kai, what happened? I picked Amar Di Mercado and he didn't play. That's what happened. Zero points. Nice. So that was great. Full disclosure, I was driving back from Los Angeles. Angeles, so I didn't catch any of the games. And so when I got home, I was just catching up on

fantasy football. And I was like, oh, let's see how everything went. And I just saw he didn't play. And I was like, oh, I lost. A hundred percent. Who did you pick? So I picked Craig. Craig had Di Mercado, DeMario Douglas and Trey McBride. The team, oh, so you had two Cardinals on the team that had 58 yards? In retrospect, a really, really bad plan. I believe I won. You did win with 31 points. You had Chuba Hubbard, Rashid, and Tase Mill. So I think high-fits, chooses the food and then D.K. and I get to act as the checks and balances to make sure you, you're not going crazy. Oh, I'm not going crazy. I'm actually going to go traditional. I'm going to go sacred, which is just indisputably the answer, which is I would like to revisit Kai's girlfriend,

Astrid, emailing the list where she said, just as a refresher, if you missed this, Astrid emailed in and say, hi, I'm Astrid, Kai's girlfriend. I've heard about Kai time. I'm so excited. He's finally willing to try some foods. I think I have some pretty good recommendations for things he should try. And I'm going to pick the first thing. she put on the list of things she wants Kai to try, which is mac and cheese. So have you never had Mac and Cheese or do you just not like it? I just don't like it. I have had it in the past.

It's been years, literal years. We need to choose something he's never had. Wait, two years or 20? It's been like probably 10 plus years. Oh, that's pretty long. I haven't had it forever, like legitimately. I think I would like him to try craft mac and cheese out of a box. The sponge bob shape noodles

I don't even know how to make it They actually thought of that They put the instruction to the box Come on I don't know how to make it Just trying anything I can to get it That ain't gonna work If we were like

Cook a Brandzino I'd be like I get it Mac and cheese Can't wait honestly very excited He's just grimacing this whole time He just hates this So you're doing mac and cheese I feel like he has to eat it

Should we have him eat it like on on pod on like I think so absolutely what's the why are we doing this if he's not going to do it on the show right that's completely true should we do it should we do it the friday show should we do it wednesday show i don't know i don't know if my vote counts in this in this department but i feel like friday just give me some give me some time to just digest we need to give him a couple days to go buy the food to prepare it to cleanse yeah mentally prepare myself yeah all that's you can google all you can google mac and cheese recipes they're very very complicated tomorrow's just a quick turnaround.

Like, I need some sleep before this. You know, I need to eat something that I like. I love that he said, I don't know how to make it. The recipe is the name. There's two things in it. So you got to now pick who you're, who are you picking this week? I was just, I was thinking about it for a while. So we've got D.K., you've got Zach Charbonnet, DeMario Douglas.

He's just been, he's been a regular on the show. Fan favorite of this pot. I love it. Kate Otten. And then hyphen says Keaton, Noah Bramette. and Taysam Hill. That's pretty good again. I think against Taysam Hill feels like the wrong move. But I might do it.

Craig Scott, Antonio Gibson, Quentin Johnson, and Johnny Smith. Now, I will say, Jack put in an interesting point in the chat. He said, how does this work? Is this Quentin Johnson score for this week? No, next week. Next week. Because this is about waivers clearing on Tuesday, November 7th, or Wednesday, the 8th.

So, yeah. Well, with that, I'm not going to go back to the well because Craig burned me last week. I'm going to go with high fits. Yeah, that's a good choice. I'm going to bet on Taysam Hill. My picks this week are dog shit. Damn it. I really was about to go back to the well with Craig.

I was like, Quentin Johnson, let's go. You're going to be scoring by TCU and you're going to have to eat a date. Kai, what if Craig Johnson goes off and you picked against them? How dumb are you going to feel? You should pick. Oh, it's going to be doubly awful there. But I did that last week.

I picked DeMercato and Cup Burn. So what happens if I win? We just nothing. We haven't decided that either. We haven't iron that out. It's a win-win for us. Normally? I get to have my Pop-Tarts and peace.

You survive one more week. That's it. Spoiler alert, Kai. The only L is the one where you continue to not know how to make mac and cheese for your girlfriend. That's the actual true L in life. Yeah, this is all, your losses are really wins because you're expanding your horizons. Oh, man, I'm actually so scared to eat macon cheese. You guys don't understand.

Expanding your horizons to macaroni and cheese. It's been years. I'm trying to tell you. I cannot remember the last time I ate mac and cheese. I can't remember it. Here's what I'm excited for is I'm excited for the end of the season when Kai's probably tried,

you know, six to eight new foods. And you know what? He's going to like one of them. And he's going to say, I added this to my repertoire and we're going to be happy. It's all going to be working.

You're going to love whatever, banana pudding. And you're going to be like, I eat banana pudding now once a week. My skin is crawling. Honestly, I feel like we're starting out hot. Like mac and cheese is maybe to you guys,

it's love. But this is good one. Mac and cheese is truly revolting to him. Mac and cheese might be the most beloved food in the United States. And it might be the most like banal food. Like it is truly like a one out of ten.

Wheat and cheese and butter and milk. Like a noodle quite literally has like zero flavor and then we were just adding like synthetic cheese that was designed to make human beings like it.

Friday. I'll make sure I get mac and cheese somehow. Okay. Somehow. Yeah, forage. Whatever kind you want. If you want to go to a fancy restaurant

order it or you just want to get craft, that's fine. Good to know. Should probably get out of here. Yeah. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Mostly thank you to Astrid for her support of Kai and the email. Thank you to everyone for listening. So do you think these are just Astrid's 10 favorite foods? No, I think she put thought into like things she wants Kai to try but also won't be. Well, actually, maybe she didn't think they're revolted.

This is super reasonable list mac and cheese dates. It's really bagel cream cheese. They're probably things she likes you, right? That would like to share. I mean, I think that's fair. Thank you to Lieutenant Boynton, the Purple Street for your service. Wow, yeah.

Thank you, Lauren. Lauren. Thank you, Creed. Nice. Butt Rock. Oh, Creed is But Rock? Apparently. Buttrock is ridiculous.

Furtrock sounds like an S&L skit. Why is it called butt rock? What is that? I don't know. Let me check. The best video of all time, Creed, Thanksgiving halftime show when he's like flying.

Have you ever seen that video? you've never seen that video of Crete of what's the lead singer of Crete's name he's wearing the Cowboys jersey Yeah Oh yeah yeah yeah and then Can you take me higher And he's like fucking on the wings of heaven

Can you take me higher Now I'm seeing now I'm getting some Conflicting information here I'm at a place called Loudwire And they're calling butt rock bands Like Kiss Twisted Sister Def Leppard Which is exactly what I thought That's like what I pictured, like Motley Crew.

I'm less concerned on what it is, and I'm more concerned than why is it called that? What is it but, but, B-U-T-T? This is an anecdote recounted in the Houston Press as listeners coined the term but rock after a radio station advertises programming as being rock, nothing but rock. That is actually an incredible name. Well, I don't know people were that funny before the internet. I'm not going to lie. Oh, yeah, people were very funny.

There were probably so many great inside jokes, you know, that happened before 2010. But rock, nothing but rock. That's email. Email is at Ring your Fantasy Football at Gmail if you know inside jokes. I feel like the definitions of Butrock that I'm finding online are very broad. I'd love to know what the oldest inside joke is.

Oh, yeah. That's like lasted the test of time. Like what is still around that was like an inside joke from hundreds and hundreds of years ago? That's a good question. I think of like the Garden of Eden or some shit.

I don't know. It's like, I'm going to tell them they're naked. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe there's a bunch of inside jokes from the Bible that have held on. Do you think maybe God was like, hey, Abe, go kill your son on the mountain.

And he's like, oh my, don't, I was kidding. Just elbowing his buddy. Just like the OG YouTube prankster. It was a prank. Stop! Yeah, email us to ring your fantasy football email if you know the oldest. There's got to be some like graffiti from, you know, like 300 BC that has like a hilarious inside joke. All right.

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