The Ringer NFL Show - Waiver Wire Pickups for Week 12, and Tommy Cutlets Returns

Episode Date: November 19, 2024

The guys react to the Giants actually benching Daniel Jones for Tommy DeVito (1:41). Next, SHOWDOWN TIME! Must-add players at each position ahead of Week 12 (9:07). Plus, emails (36:33)! RB: Trey Be...nson (Cardinals), Gus Edwards (Chargers), and Roschon Johnson (Bears) (9:07) WR: Christian Watson (Packers), Elijah Moore (Browns), and Alec Pierce (Colts) (17:32) TE: Jonnu Smith (Dolphins), Hunter Henry (Patriots), and Will Dissly (Chargers) (26:22) QB: Anthony Richardson (Colts), Caleb Williams (Bears), and Drake Maye (Patriots) (32:18) D/ST: Washington Commanders, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and New York Giants (34:50) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producers: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:40 of podcasting, right on the Ringer NBA YouTube channel. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Dan Huyveson. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Worldback. Today we are going through all our must at players after week 11. Here's how it's going to work. We're going to go and we're each going to pick our top player at a position and then we're going to give our number one pick from that spot. And then if any of us pick the same guy, then we're going to do a tiebreaker and then we'll pick someone else and it's not that complicated. I promise. You will figure it out as we go. Email us at ringer fantasy football at Gmail.com.
Starting point is 00:01:22 If you have trivia questions, if you have fantasy courts you want us to resolve, if you have other celebrations or any other nonsense we talk about in the show, emails to ringer fantasy football or follow us on Instagram or TikTok or ringer fantasy football. We're going to go through the waiver picks in a moment, but more importantly, the biggest news of the season, the story of the year, if you will. Tommy Cotlitz, Tommy DeVito is back in my life personally. I don't just so I'm biased
Starting point is 00:01:46 I think that this is maybe the story of the season maybe the story of the year in the United States of America Dika do you care about this at all? Definitely not no I don't really care that much to be honest this was always like a really bad team and now they're just acknowledging publicly that we know we're really bad and we're not going to try anymore and so they're not starting Drew Locke because he basically
Starting point is 00:02:09 has a lot of play-based incentives that he could I think that was someone through that out there. They were, like, deeply wrong. I think that Drew, I think that Drew Locke has incentives in his contract. I think they're not playing Drew Locke because he sucks. There's no way he's worse than Tommy Cutlets. No, I think, so he played it a little bit in the Eagles game,
Starting point is 00:02:28 and it was about as bad as any quarterback's been all year, number one. Okay, also, don't you want to lose? Like, you want to put in the guy that literally made you not able to draft Jane Daniels or Drake May last year, which is Tommy Cutlet. You're like doing that again. I feel like, this is like tempting fate. You not learned from last year? No, but there's an art.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Shouldn't you play Drewlock? There's an art to the tank. You have to do it without totally poisoning your culture. And so Tommy DeVito and Drew Locke, let's be real, are probably equally bad in terms of how likely they are to help the Giants win a game. But Tommy DeVito, I think you can sell tickets and you can sell your fans. You can sell tickets because the fans like Tommy DeVito more than they like freaking Drew Locke. I think you can sell your players on it because they won three games with them last year.
Starting point is 00:03:12 And so you don't want players like, extra Lawrence and like all the defenders and stuff to just openly quit on the team. I thought you do want that though. Isn't that what you want? No, you don't want them to quit. You have to thread the needle. You want to lose, but you don't want people to quit. Yeah, you got to throw. It's true though.
Starting point is 00:03:28 You do have to thread the needle. It's not the NBA. It's the ever elusive soft landing, Craig, of tanking. Sure. I just can't wait. The guy who literally ruined their chances of getting a franchise changing quarterback last year is now starting again. He's going to win him a couple games. No, he sucks.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I don't think he will. I think it's going to be a ball. I actually think that he's going to play so poorly that they're going to... Why do you think he's worse this year compared to last year? I think that he's so limited. Because the Giants' defense might be better this year. Yeah, no, I think Giant's Defense is good. DeVito is not...
Starting point is 00:04:01 I think that, like, it's... I don't know. I think this happens a lot with backup quarterbacks. They come out for a game or two. And then it's like a bat or a baseball. It's like, or I guess more accurately, like a pitcher in baseball where, like, you know, You see him a third or fourth time. If you don't have the juice, like eventually they figure it out.
Starting point is 00:04:16 It's like, I don't think Tommy DeVito exactly is going to have a bunch of counterpunches. Yeah. So, yeah, I think the giants are going to suck. This is great, though. I'm sure. Here's the thing. Are you guys saying Tommy DeVito is such a world destroying force? The Giants will be unable to help themselves from winning game after game with him.
Starting point is 00:04:30 He sucks. This is great. We're going to have fun. We'll do the little emojis back with the A, like the A emoji is back. This is so funny. This is happening again. This is hilarious. No, he's going to lose.
Starting point is 00:04:39 It's a fun way to lose. You know what? Drew Locke is a depressing way to lose. Tommy DeVito, there's culture. And the Giants are going to lose and get a quarter back. There's culture. I feel bad for Drew Locke. Why?
Starting point is 00:04:50 There was a moment in time when Drew Locke thought he was going to the Giants to be, like, competing for the starting job. Now he's just not even playing over Tommy Cavito. He did compete for the starting job, and he lost to Tommy DeVito. Also, if Tommy DeVito's been on the freaking practice squad, he's not even on the roster. Well, you can commute to work, though. If Tommy DeVito is as bad as Hyfit says he's going to be, then we probably will see, Drew Locke still at some point.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I actually think the coaching staff dislikes Drew Locke on like a personal level. I feel like that's really what's going on here, to be totally honest. On a deeply personal level. Yeah. Okay. We'll see. But yeah, so Daniel Jones. It's the end of the Daniel Jones experiment.
Starting point is 00:05:26 And again, if people are wondering what's going on, it's basically, if they're going to cut him at the end of the season, I'm almost positive. And if they cut Daniel Jones is $20-ish million. And if they, he gets hurt, though, it would be like $45 million. Yeah. So they're benching him. It's like what the Broncos did to rust last year. or what the Raiders did to Derek Carr a couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:05:44 So RIP to Daniel Jones, again, thank God. Which quarterback do you have your eye on right now, if it's in college football? It's tough. It's kind of like, you don't want to get your hopes up for the number one pick because it's just you win one game and you can slide like four games in the rankings. I feel like right now, Shudder Sanders is the best quarterback in the draft. I don't, he's the most complicated player.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I can ever remember, like, the idea of like, there's the evaluation on the field. and then it's like his father is Dion Sanders and might want to coach your team. I don't know. I don't know if there's ever been a prospect that's more likely to get a coach fired for taking him than Shudor Sanders.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Like, what if Dion Sanders thinks he could do better than you? Like Matt Eberfluse, imagine if the bear is at Shudder Sanders. Like Dionne, imagine, you know what I mean? It's so easy to upend the whole locker room. So I would like Cam Ward. I would like Cam Ward for Miami right now. And it's kind of like a rebound. I want something different.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I'm not saying Cam Ward is the guy I want to be with forever, but I need something after six years of Daniel Jones. I need someone that's not so freaking safe and boring. I need a little zest in my life right now. I was putting together a mock draft for the site, which will be up soon. Stay tuned. And I was trying to figure out who the best Giants, who the best match for the Giants is, Cam Ward. And I was like, is Cam Ward too similar to Daniel Jones?
Starting point is 00:07:01 Because I think Ward is really dynamic. He can run around a little. He's got like big play potential, but he also will make a really errant throw. time and time again. So I don't know. I was like, maybe this is too close. Maybe they need to go
Starting point is 00:07:15 completely opposite and get like, I don't know, Carsonback or something. I would, I would, I will, no.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I veto, I veto Carson back to the New York Giants. You should just not take a quarterback. You should sign a journeyman veteran or something and not take a quarterback. What I really think is that more teams need to do
Starting point is 00:07:31 what the Cardinals did with Josh Rosen. You don't want to take a Josh Rosen, but they took Josh Rosen and he sucked. And then it was bad. And then the next year they took Kyler and Murray and they immediately threw Josh Rosen over, board. Just keep taking
Starting point is 00:07:41 quarterbacks. Yeah, and that same year, the Giants took Daniel Jones in 2019, and they liked Justin Herbert more in 2019. And everyone thought Justin Herbert would leave Oregon and be in the 2019 draft.
Starting point is 00:07:49 He went back to Oregon because he wanted to play a season with his brother at Oregon, who's a freshman. So then in 2020, the Giants could have taken Justin Herbert, and instead they took Andrew Thomas at left tackle, because they had Daniel Jones.
Starting point is 00:08:00 And I know it's a little revisionist history, but like, you know, we probably would have said to take two at that point, but I do wish they had taken two or her, Justin Herbert, and thrown Daniel Jones overboard. All that's to say, I know that the,
Starting point is 00:08:10 quarterback class isn't as good as the last one. I would like the Giants to take a quarterback this year. And if they're like, oh, this class isn't good. Cool. If he sucks, take another one in 2026. I don't care. Just keep taking them until you get the right guy. Throw them overboard.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I'm fine. We don't have to just commit to whoever you take. It's like just keep taking them. Anyway. The ballad of the Giants. I just love it. Someday you'll get to root for them to win games. The Giants had one competitive season in the last eight years.
Starting point is 00:08:38 And it absolutely fucked them. It would have been better to have. have zero competitive seasons the last eight years. It's so great. Anyway, God. I can't believe I'm mad now. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:47 More than enough time on the Giants we just spent. Jeez, okay, yeah. Waivers this week, so six teams are on by. So the bills, the Bengals, Falcons, Saints, Jets,
Starting point is 00:08:55 Jaguars are all on by. I think God, the Jets aren't playing football this week, though. So we could just get right into it probably are a lot. I think more than any week, there probably are a lot of,
Starting point is 00:09:03 like, I have to get someone from waivers and pop up in my lineup this week. D.K., running back, who is your number one plug-in-play running back after week 11.
Starting point is 00:09:12 This is actually like one of the worst weeks for running backs I can remember. I don't think there's any obvious plug-in-play guy. If you're going to play anyone this week, man, I guess it would be Rochon Johnson for the Bears because he's going to get, according to what we saw this last week, he's going to get their goal line carries. And I'm just like hoping for a touchdown. And that's basically how I'm getting through the week. Everybody else, to me, there's like a lot of questions about usage and what.
Starting point is 00:09:40 where they're going to be on the depth chart, how much they're going to be in the game at all. And honestly, like, I don't feel great about Roshan Johnson either, but I'm going to go with Roshan Johnson. I agree that Roshan would be the choice. My issue,
Starting point is 00:09:49 and I, first I agree with you, I think this is the worst week at running back to play a running back that we've had on the show in maybe three or four years. My issue with Roshan is that the Bears are playing the Vikings this week,
Starting point is 00:09:59 and the Vikings are the best run defense in the NFL. And for context, like, Tony Pollard this week against the Vikings, had nine carries for 15 yards. So I, like, honestly, I have to go with the first of, like Gus Edwards for the Chargers could the same logic. It's like you just sit there and pray that Gus Edwards gets a goal line, Gary.
Starting point is 00:10:15 It's not fun or sexy, but I don't know. This is a horrific week if you need production. Yeah, the only other person that I feel any conviction on is Trey Benson. The Cardinals are playing the Seahawks this week and he's like the backup and barely gets any time unless it's a blowout. I'd almost rather just choose Benson and tell you to sit him and like just I think him as a stash provides more value than picking up. anybody that you can plug in this week. I think the real answer is you need to play two running backs and your flex. If you need a flex this week, it needs to be a receiver because the running backs are the
Starting point is 00:10:47 worst options. I can remember, Craig, who is your pathetic first running back option? I think it's Gus Edwards, who I actually think it's kind of sucks because J.K. Dobbins has been such an amazing story. He basically was like, I want him to win comeback player of the year. And with that said, I actually just think Gus Edwards looked better than him since Gus Edwards has come back. His yards per carry is way better.
Starting point is 00:11:08 He's averaging over five yards of carry. and I just think he's been generally more effective. That touchdown at the end of the game was awesome, and I have Dobbins on my fantasy team, and he's like, great, but I do think that they probably want to keep JK Dobbins healthy, and I think this, like, the offense does want to be a split. And, you know, the charges are a good team this year to run the ball a lot. It's like boring, whatever, but I...
Starting point is 00:11:28 The Hassan Haskins getting goal-line carries. God. On Sunday night really pissed me off, Michigan man. But yeah, I guess I'll go with Gus Edwards. The way that the chargers were using the running back rotation was weird. week because Gus came in, I think he was the one who got the first carry among the running backs. He was sort of the early down guy and then it was like, oh, I guess Dobbins is going to be sort of the third down passing downs type player. And then Haskins gets in at the goal line.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Again, it's funny because at the start of the season, everything was reversed, right? It was like Gus Edwards was getting more carries to start the season, but Dobbins was more effective. And now it's the opposite where Gus is getting less carries, but actually looks a little bit better. Yeah. The only thing that would change any of this, we're recording this Monday afternoon, it's like 4 o'clock Eastern. If anything happens tonight to like Joe Mixon, Damien Pierce has missed like a month, but Damian Pierce is the backup in Houston and there's a weird hierarchy there. But basically, I do think that if anything happened to Joe Mixing, Damian Pierce seems healthy now and that he could be the guy. But like, yeah, this is the
Starting point is 00:12:23 worst. Even like the stashes where we just talk about, like Braylin Allen for the Jets is on by. Tyler L. Gere for the Falcons is on by. Like none of these guys are playing. It's actually like really bad. So yeah, take a receiver if you really need one this week. And do I don't want to say, I don't want to jinx anything. I'm not going to jings. thinks anything. I'm not going to bring up what I was thinking. All right. Let's do. Just Gus Edwards. Gus' showdown time.
Starting point is 00:12:43 It is the Gus Edwards' showdown time. Okay, this is a fun one. Great con. So, Jared. Jared. How many people in America are named Wade Jones? Oh, great question.
Starting point is 00:13:07 A lot of Joneses in the world. How many Wade's? American, not the world. Okay. In the world. Sorry, in America. Third times the chart. Can I get to confuse myself?
Starting point is 00:13:19 Wade. Of course. His name? Of course. Of course. Wade, Joan. Oh, my God. Who that is?
Starting point is 00:13:32 All right. You guys ready? I'm technically not even sure there's one person named Wade Jones. I was going to say zero. Do we have true? All right. 3, 2, 1. $18,000.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Okay, so wide range here. Craig said 18. Yeah. I said 200. I said 5,000. Oh shit. 18? Jones?
Starting point is 00:13:51 There's got to be a million people in America with the last day Jones, right? I don't know. We'll see how popular the name Wade is. But the answer is 858. All right. So I still got, I was closer than you were. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Would you say 18? Yeah. Oh, God, it came in last. All right. Jones is the, according to my name, Stats.com, Jones is ranked as the fifth most popular family name in the U.S. Estimated population of 1.5 million people with the last name Jones. I feel like Hyvitz now because Hyvitz reads these questions and he makes his guesses beforehand.
Starting point is 00:14:27 So then when you and I, DK, give our guesses, he can immediately comment on how stupid they sound because he knows what the answer is. I don't know what the answer is. You do. But I forget. You forget, please. You don't forget anything. I did this like 12 hours ago. I forget.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I don't know. You just listed the last like. 18 NFC East champions. I don't think you... That was... I mean, that was my life. Yeah. Well, he got last.
Starting point is 00:14:50 No, I know. But I feel like he... Because he has that answer in the back of his head, he can comment on how... He can kind of tell which way our guesses are leaning in. You think that if I knew the answer
Starting point is 00:15:00 was 858, I would have made fun of Dekus saying 200? What? You made fun of me for saying 18? Because you knew it was far off, as my point. No, they put the answer in white. So, like, I didn't see the answer.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I see the answer sometimes. That's why I have to say, do it. But most of the time people do it, like if you put the text in white, then you can just move it over. So you didn't know the answer to this one? No. Okay. All right. So does this mean, even though I didn't choose Gus Bus, should I
Starting point is 00:15:28 just take Gus Bus as their number one choice? Well, no. Take who you want. This is your journey, man. The only other players that I wanted to shout out here real quick before we get to the next position is Zemir White, Amir Abdullah, and Dylan Laubi, or Laub, for the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Alexander Madison went out from this last game and Zemar White also left the game and both of them didn't come back. I believe Madison had an ankle injury. Zemir White had a quad injury. I don't think anyone's really going to be a great option in this Raiders offense, but I just want to throw that out there. That's an option if you're really desperate. Can I just shout out to Samir White's fantasy points in the last month?
Starting point is 00:16:06 9, 10, negative 1 and 13. Oh, wait, no, that's his yardage. 9, 10, negative 1 and 13. And then the people who could replace him, Like, I looked at this too, but my issue Amir Abdullah, maybe don't pick a Raiders guy. The Raiders are the worst rushing offense maybe in our entire lives.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And Amir Abdullah has not had 200 rushing yards in his season since 2017. And then Dilah Lobby has one carry on the season. And so I think that I would rather like literally, if I'm going to lose, I can't have it with a Raider in my lineup this week. That's fair. All right, I'm going to choose Trey Benson. I think he's a better pickup short and long term. All right, I'll go Gus.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And then I get, oh, I have to pick up. someone else. Jeez. I'll take Rochon Johnson just because I'm going to stand to myself because I felt so strongly against him against Minnesota that maybe it'll make sense. But no, it's, the answer is fine to running backs and play a receiver in your flex. Like, that's the answer. If you want to follow
Starting point is 00:16:59 the Sean Payton roller coaster and Adrick Estimate is available, you should probably grab him and start him. Honestly, yeah, probably. They're also playing the Raiders, so maybe they're going to be up by a lot and like use him more. He was actually the running back on the second drive. It was just a three and out, and then Williams came in the next drive, and they
Starting point is 00:17:15 scored a touchdown. So there still is a chance that Estimated is much more involved in this offense than it seemed. Honestly, hoping the Broncos blow out the Raiders and playing Jaliel McLaughlin for like a single drive makes more sense than any of these. All right, let's go to receiver with there's way more options. I'll just start this by saying if Christian Watson's available, he had 150 yards and I think you should add Christian Watson. Like that's obvious, right? We're not including him. He's 44% rostered. All right, we can include Christian Watson. Are we including Jerry Judy, who had an advert, like I hate him, but he also was like one of the five best receivers this week?
Starting point is 00:17:48 I know, Judy's even more rostered. Judy's rostered in over half of leagues. Yeah. Would you take Judy? Exclude Judy. We're including Christian Watson. I think Elijah Moore remains a good pickup. Oh, certainly.
Starting point is 00:18:02 8% rostered. Yeah. So I think to me the two obvious big names in this year or this week's receiver one is Elijah Moore for the Browns and Christian Watson for the Packers. Those are the two guys. I'm going to lean. I'm going to lean Elijah more. I think he's getting more consistent looks.
Starting point is 00:18:22 I would lean Watson. As you look at the last three games for the Packers, Watson leads the team and targets. I still think he is their best big play threat. He has been banged up the entire season. He got hurt week one, came back, and has been working his way back from a high-anker's being banged up his whole career, bud. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:38 But my point is, is when he's healthy and on the field, I still think he is like the best big play threat on the Packers. They have not been using Jayne. read a lot lately. 22% target share for Christian Watson over the last three games. And he's been pretty good. He's getting better and better.
Starting point is 00:18:53 That's a good call. Wix only played, Dantavian Wicks only played 13 snaps this last game. Yeah, I maintain that Watson's good. He just got the injury book. I would take Christian Watson here too. All right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:07 All right. D.K., join in on this. It's the Christian Watson. So sad that he's on waivers after where I thought he was going to be. I know. It's tough. Showdown time. It's from Rachel.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Rachel. We were on a break. Ross was right about that. Okay. Let's not get into this. How many Smyranoff classic vodka flavors are there? Whoa. Smyranoff classic vodka?
Starting point is 00:19:38 Wait, how many? We're not talking about Smyranoff ice. I think she meant the smearoff the vodka flavors. Okay. How many vodka flavors have smear-n-law? God, I'm not a vodka drinker. I have no fucking idea. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:19:51 You want to know what I said? You said the word original. right? Like the original flavors? Smirnoff classic vodka flavors. Oh, Smirnoff classic vodka. I called it Smirnoff. I clearly don't know the answer to this. Smoking and a pancake?
Starting point is 00:20:06 Fong and a blitz? Okay. Got an answer in my head. Three, two, one. I said, 18. 10, 18, and 40. You're hesitated. You're waiting for Craig and I. That's absolutely not true.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I think I said it first, in fact. Check the tape. Actually, it's the opposite. I said 40, Craig said 18. I'd feel like I said it before either of you said anything. What was your answer? 10. The answer is 17.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I got it. I know my vodka, baby. My first drink was... Really? It wasn't Smyranoff. It was pineapple sky, but it was vodka. So there's 17 flavors of Smyrnaf vodka. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I wonder how many we could name. Lemon. Raspberry. citrus. Raspberry. That's your first one. Cherry? Dude, the one way,
Starting point is 00:21:00 we drank in college was called Burnettes and there were like 50 flavors of Burnettes. Burnets is like plastic candle cheap stuff. Yes, the plastic candle cheap stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Raspberry smearoff, I feel like is the most famous, to be honest. Could be wrong about that. Oh, I don't know. I feel like that was kind of like, that was the one. It was Jackie and I's first drink
Starting point is 00:21:18 was a horrible flavor of burnets and it like poisoned the beginning of our relationship. That was your first drink. ever each? No, but like I, so basically we were going to some party and I was like, you know, I was like, oh, I could get us liquor. And she was like, okay. And so like, I asked an older person on campus to get me a bottle of vodka, but beggars can't be choosers. And so I think to mess with me as a bit, the senior I asked got me a bottle of maple syrup burnets.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Whoa. That is. But like, you're, they're doing you a favor. So like what do you know, It's like September of freshman years. What are you going to do? Really? Really? And Jackie told me that the next day she was at the gym and she was like sweat pouring out of her. Like she smelled like maple vodka at the like maple syrup at the gym.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And she didn't eat maple syrup for six years. Damn. That guy really big-timed you. He's like, here you go, buddy. That's pretty good. That's a good bit. And I like walking away and I look and I'm like, oh, shit. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:22:17 All right. So Craig gets Watson. Hi. Yeah. Craig gets Christian Watson. I said 10. What did you say? I said 18.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I lost. I said 40. Okay, so I'm going to go with Elijah Moore. I think Elijah Moore is a really good one. I hate Jerry Judy. And the funny thing about Jerry Judy having, you know, he had four catches 150 yards. Or no, no, Watson had four catches 150 yards. The funny thing about Judy having...
Starting point is 00:22:38 Judy had 142 yards in a touchdown. Yeah, but he had six for 142 in a touchdown. And the touchdown was 89 yards. And it was James, like, breaking open to play and just, and the Saints defender totally misplayed it. And if you take away the 89 yards, five for like 60 yards is exactly what what Jerry Judy does every week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And it just happened that he got this one weird broken play long touchdowns. The longest plays of James' career, it was a fluke. And I actually think, I actually kind of like Elijah Moore more and more with James throwing. So I like that pick by DK a lot. I hate Jerry Judy still. Dude, James is absolutely yucking the ball.
Starting point is 00:23:12 He's throwing it 44 times a game, which is like easily the league's lead. And if you look at just the targets that the three wide receivers on the Browns are seeing Judy Moore and Tillman, Jerry Judy is averaging 10 targets a game, which is third in the NFL with Jerry Judy. Elijah is averaging a little over nine,
Starting point is 00:23:31 which is fifth in the NFL, and Cedric Tillman is averaging nine as well, which is six in the NFL. So he literally has three wide receivers all in the top six in targets. He's turned this into like 2019 when Chris Godwin and Mike Evans is top five receivers, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:44 And even David and Joku's averaging almost eight targets a game, which is third overall at tight end. So all the Browns are viable. Like that's the thing. It's like rising ships. It's like just James. Yeah, so Elijah Moore, Jared Jr.
Starting point is 00:23:53 And then there's Cadarious Tony who had one carry for minus seven yards. I, he's, I love my least favorite player. Getting him back on my life. The best story in the NFL right now. Just Cadarious Tony, you got to follow it. My pick will be, so it's funny, first of all, that we're not going to take Marquez Valdez Scantling for the third week in a row because Valenzhenling's on by this week. And yet this was the one of the two, two, best two week stretches of Valdez Scantling's career.
Starting point is 00:24:20 He's had over 200 yards and three touch. the last two games. And he's scored two touchdowns in two straight weeks, like one other time in his entire career. He's 30 years old. But when Nick Westbrook-Kine does it, it's not cool. Well, I was going to say, that's the other guy where I'm kind of like, part of me is like, should I just stop swimming up current and just take Nick Westbrook-Kekite?
Starting point is 00:24:38 No, because as soon as you put him in your lineup, he's going to get zero targets. I know. That's the thing. But then this week, it had a 98-year touchdown. And I'm like, that could have been my 98-year touchdown. And instead, I'm going to take him this week, and he's going to do nothing because he's Nick Westbrook-Kekekan. He's the most average receiver in the NFL
Starting point is 00:24:52 who scores touchdown every week. No, I'm not doing it. Go Quentin Johnston. No, I don't want that. There's some concern that Ladd McCawkey could miss a couple games. I thought your whole thing was that you liked Quentin Johnson's volatility. That was the type of people you wanted to go after. I want Alex Pierce.
Starting point is 00:25:05 You'd rather have MVS than Quentin Johnson. They're the same player. I'm going to take Alec Pierce for the cults. I also like A. Adi Mitchell for the cults, but he needs to be a little more consistent. He ran five routes last week, but. Sorry, who, yeah, well, that's the thing. That's why I'm not.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Ed. Fitchell scares me. I like A. Dia Mitchell, actually. Every play he has is great. He just has one play a game. Like, you can tell, he's the type of guys, like the eye test is like, this guy's just more athletic than everyone else.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Totally. But he only, he literally only ran five routes this last week. They just, man. For 80 Mitchell. But Alec Pierce, that's 80 Mitchell, but for Alex Pierce. With Anthony Richardson. That's the thing. Three catches, 74 yards this week.
Starting point is 00:25:41 When the game's on the line, Richardson went to Alec Pierce up the sideline. I just, I still think, again, Alec Pierce is as likely as anybody in waivers, not named Marquez Valdas, Scantling or Nick Westbrook, Kiki, and I'll take your touchdown. So I'll take out beers. They're playing the Lions this week. So that's going to like garbage time shootout, whatever it ends up being.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I still feel like it's scary to start any Colts receivers just because of what we saw earlier. Like, remember earlier in the season, Josh Downs was unusable when Richardson was in the lineup. I didn't start him in my leagues last week. And obviously regretted that. But like, yeah, it's still just a scary proposition. If you have to add a player off of waivers and put them in your lineup, you will be afraid. True.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Fear is the mind killer. Good point. All right. Tight ends. Awful week for tight ends. Dalton Kincaid and Dawson Knox for Buffalo. Mike Gisicki for the Bengals. Calpitz for the Falcons, Tason Hill for the Saints, and Evan Ingram for the Jaguars are
Starting point is 00:26:33 all on by this week. Not to mention that George Kittle was like a fairly late scratch on Sunday. So not a great week at tight end. It's pretty brutal. D.K. Oh, I kind of think it's a good week. I feel like there's some good options this week. No, what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:45 I'm starting tight ends, like a third of your league. needs a tight end this week to start, like a third of your league. This could be competitive on the old waiver wire. Taysam Hill needless to say, if he's available, you should get him, but the Saints are on by.
Starting point is 00:26:58 But obviously Taysam Hill, 40 points this week is like the number one guy. We'll put him to the side. He's not playing this week. And he's so obvious if Tassum's available, go get him. So, okay, here's the three guys that I think are the best tight end ads
Starting point is 00:27:09 on the waivers this week. Hunter Henry, last six games, 21% target rate. Johnny Smith, last six games, 22% target rate. And they're not teammates anymore. Hunter Henry's still on the Patriots. Jonah Smith is now on the Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And then Will Disley over the last month has a 20% target rate. So I think all three of these guys, you could plug them into your lineup and feel decently good about it. There's no, like, can't miss tight ends, like, period in the NFL other than like Brock Powers and Kel or Kettle when he's healthy. But of those three, I would probably go Hunter Henry, I guess, is just like the safer option. the targets his last six games 9, 4, 8, 6, 9, 5. He's getting a good amount of targets. I think so.
Starting point is 00:27:56 I think so. They're very close. Both of these guys are very close. Like, Johnny Smith is out targeting, what's his face, Waddle over the last like six weeks. Oh, he's leaving Waddle in the dust. Not only is he out targeting him. John Hussmith had more points last week than Waddle had in the last five.
Starting point is 00:28:12 That's tough. John Smith is like, I mean, honestly, he's, he's passing Tyree Kill and Fantasy points. since two came back. Johnw Smith is the fifth best tight end in fantasy since week six. Yeah, I think it's got to be Johnna Smith, especially because the dolphins are playing
Starting point is 00:28:25 the Patriots this week, and I don't really believe my Patriot's defense. Yeah, I didn't have a strong conviction, but you guys convinced me, I like Johnny Smith, too. Yeah, I think it's Johnny Smith. I will say after that Hunter Henry, if he's available, is perfectly solid. I agree with you, too, on Will Disley.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I mean, after watching the charges run four verts out of like three tight-end sets and Herbert just absolutely ripping balls up the hash mark to Will Disley. I'm like, yep, Four catches, 80 yards. The last, since week seven, Will Disley is top 10 among all tight ends and catches.
Starting point is 00:28:53 It's like Travis Kelsey and Brock Bowers and then Kate Otten, who replaced freaking Mike Evans. You got David and Joku, who you were talking about before with the James Winston Browns, Hunter Henry, Johnny Smith, Evan Engram. And then it's Will Disley. So I think Will Disley's all, like, he's the guy that I'm most confident
Starting point is 00:29:06 is available in your league that's like totally acceptable as a streamer for the rest of the season. And I would also add, you can't go wrong with Zach Hertz, who's like a used car that just racks up 300,000 miles and never breaks down. 34 years old. He's been a top 12 tight end the last month. Another 50 yards in a touchdown last week.
Starting point is 00:29:23 If you're in a deeper league and all these guys are taken, although I bet John and Smith might be available. I'm sure Will Disle's available. But I do think there's a lot of people who need tight ends this week. The last one I'll say is Cole Komet for the Bears who didn't really do anything. But I just think the Bears' offense is better. The Vikings have a passing. I think Cole Komet, you can do a lot worse.
Starting point is 00:29:38 And they played him more often than. Yeah. Like Waldron was sort of rotating him more. And I think in this last week, he played like 95% of snaps, ran around a whole bunch of times. So tight end, tight end's not that bad. So we're doing the John Hsu Smith, right? John Hsu Smith Showdown Time.
Starting point is 00:29:52 It is the Johnu Smith Showdown time. This one's from Preston. Oh, I jumped the gun or the gong. You jump the gong. Kai, play the gong again. Hell yeah. I love that gong. Anyway, yeah, this one's from Preston.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Preston. Welcome to the Steelers. In Happy Gilmore. Oh, yeah. This amazing scene where Happy Gilmore fights Barbar Barter. Sorry, Burr-Bart. What did I say, Burr? Bob Barker on the golf course.
Starting point is 00:30:30 How many punches does Bob Barker land unhappy? Oh. Great question. I'm like trying to remember the scene because he goes jab, jab, and then he grabs him by the shirt and then he... Okay, you got to stop counting. Why? Do kicks count?
Starting point is 00:30:52 Doesn't he kick him when he's down? Yeah, he does. I believe this person actually separated the kicks from the punches. You had enough? No, you've had enough. Bitch. Oh, that's the best. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I don't know the answer to this and I have my answer now. Yeah. You guys ready? Yeah. Three, two, one. Twelve. Okay. I went 12, 16 and 22.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I almost guess 18 for the third straight question. I kind of wanted to do that. The answer is 16. Let's go. Not damn it. Damn it. Craig, did you get all three?
Starting point is 00:31:30 No, I had two for three. But I was literally perfect on the third question of one off on question two. So every answer should be 18 or 700. And he did land one kick. I've seen that movie so many times. He's got to be jabbing him. There's that one moment where he goes like seven straight. That's why I went like over 20 because it was like the camera angle that he really
Starting point is 00:31:51 it's five from each camera angle. Boom, boom, boom. He's like he's a hockey fighter. He's not like protecting with his gloves and stuff like that. just, you know, he's a loose cannon. All right, Johnny, welcome to the squad. Week 12. Let's ride. Fuck Jalen Waddle.
Starting point is 00:32:08 All right. I'm going to go with Hunter Henry for the Patriots. I'll take Will Disley. And then again, if you can't get Will Disley, I think Colcom, that's fine. And obviously, if Taysanil's there, go get Taysimal. All right, quarterbacks, this one's super easy. Anthony Richardson, play the Lions this week. If it's available, please go get him.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Two rushing touchdowns, 28 points, top three quarterback. I think that he's going to be somewhere between how bad he was and how good we thought it'd be in the preseason for the rest of the season. Those are the kind of guys that can flip a season. So, like, if you're making the playoff push, like, go get Anthony Richardson. The Bo Nix disrespect. Bo Nix is way more rostered than Anthony Richardson.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Well, that might be true. Bonix is not available in competitive ones. They are a 1% difference in roster ship. On what platform? Yahoo. Yeah, but like, I think the difference is, no, but it matters. Well, wait, I'm actually right. This is how you get good at rhetoric.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Yeah. Move the goalposts. No, it's, no, I'm right. On ESPN, Bo Nix is 70% and Richardson's 43. Okay. So I mean, what about Yahoo?
Starting point is 00:33:07 But I think that the way you look at it is like, sometimes there's a certain portion of leagues that are like ghost ships. Richardson's been cut to that level and Nix has risen, like, you know what I'm saying? That's fine. That's fair. Just turn it out there. Bo Nix. The QB9 on the season.
Starting point is 00:33:23 If Bo Nix is available, yes. Bo Nix as well. Playing the Raiders? Yeah. What are you saying? saying, Craig, your shit-eating grin. Jeez, it's a little defensive there. I'm just like, yes, Bo Nix, if he's available for sure.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Doth protest too much. You were like, no, they're not close at all. And I was like, they're literally next to each other. I will fuck off. Yeah, all right, fine, that sucks. Fine, that sucked. I think it's more like people don't believe, people have not believed in Bonex all season, now they're finally starting to believe.
Starting point is 00:33:51 Yeah. I mean, I think Drake May is their option. I maintain that I think Bownix has been added earlier. But Richardson is. That's fine. Maybe he has in some leagues. Way too many people cut Richardson. Go get Richardson.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And then also Caleb Williams was also cut by too many people. And again, I think that's where roster ship is kind of deceiving because sometimes it dips to like 50, but actually a lot of people cut him. Caleb Williams, if he's available, just he's running more than ever, I think Caleb Williams for the rest of the season
Starting point is 00:34:14 will be like a pretty solid quarterback. Drake May against the dolphins. I think Drake May is also, again, I think he played really well against the Rams, actually. Obviously, the game ended with him throwing an interception. But kind of like the story, like, of the season so far. It's like he plays really well, and then he makes it.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Perfect, though. That's exactly what you want. Yeah. Yeah, actually, it's true. Like progress and then ending in a loss. That's awesome. And then higher in the draft, yeah. That's what the Giants are going to do with Tommy DeVito.
Starting point is 00:34:39 He wanted to develop. The Giants are, they were the opposite last year. It was no progress and it ended with a win. Yeah. That was awful. All right. Defenses, I think this is where you also want to start looking at like how what win, like your league. Like, if you're going to pace for,
Starting point is 00:34:59 or first round by, like start looking at week 16 and 17 and then like, you know your schedule. And then if you're like in a dog fight and you're like win the next three weeks, just focus in the next three weeks or whatever. If you're going to make the first round of the playoffs, like whatever, start looking at those weeks. Some defenses want a shout out for this week. The commander's defense versus Dallas, the Dan Quinn revenge game. I don't think the commander's defense is awesome. I do think the commander's defense is well situated against Cooper rushing the Cowboys and then
Starting point is 00:35:24 Will Levis and the Titans back-to-back weeks. There's just like a lot of upside for like turnover's pick six as a. Again, we'll see how Cooper Rush plays on Monday Night Football. We haven't seen that yet. 45 yards against the Eagles, that's not good. I also want to shout out the Tampa defense, which I don't think is great, but they're playing Bryce Young and the Panthers. Sorry, they play the Giants and Tommy DeVito this week, then Bryce Young and the Panthers. Those are the next two games for the Bucks.
Starting point is 00:35:46 That is two pretty tasty matchups for the Bucks and a Todd Bulls defense to face Tommy DeVito and then Bryce Young. And then it's the Raiders for Tampa Bay with Gardner Minshu, or maybe that'll be Desmond Ritter at that point. That's a pretty incredible three-game stretch for the. the Bucks to take you to the rest of the fantasy regular season. And then also the Giants. The Giants defense is pretty solid. You could do worse than Baker-Mayfield. And then it's Dallas with Cooper Rush.
Starting point is 00:36:08 And then it's the Saints, which isn't ideal. But I think one of those three defenses is pretty solid, not just for this week, but for the next few. So commanders, bucks or giants. And then also, obviously, if anyone dropped the Chiefs defense because they were playing the Bills, I don't know if they did, but the Chiefs next to two games are Carolina and then the Raiders, that's pretty good. But if the Chiefs are available anywhere, I would go get them. I just want to hit a couple emails here.
Starting point is 00:36:35 We talked about famous celebrations on the Sunday show. And Craig, you were talking about how you thought Steph Curry, the night night. You want to give that spiel of like the night night you thought was like the best celebration of your life? I think it's like the coolest signature celebration, not like a one-time thing, but a recurring thing of the 21st century. So we got a lot of emails. I'm obviously biased.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Yeah, no. It's biased as humanly possible, to be honest. So we got a lot of emails about other ones, just throwing them out that we forgot about. the number one by far was everyone's screaming at us. Jose emailed me first, but Ronaldo has an iconic celebration that frankly, I didn't know about, but he just kind of jumps up and lands and yells,
Starting point is 00:37:12 C in Portuguese. Yeah, and he's like, but I actually found a video from me, he's like, it's not C, it's like guttural, like anyway,
Starting point is 00:37:21 but he lands and it's actually really cool because then a lot of people. Yeah, I can recognize that. Yeah, just like the jump spin arm. Yeah, so that one, pretty badass.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Almost definitely globally the most famous one. The Aaron Rogers discount double check. Also, sorry, I don't, I wasn't saying Steph's is the most famous. I was saying I think it's the coolest, not the most famous. Actually, that is a distinction. You know that, Rinaldo? I do think it's cooler.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Sorry. Also, look, I don't watch a lot of soccer. Joey emailed in to say the Aaron Rogers discount double check, which led to like a literal state farm campaign. This is like a, but yeah, but it's like a celebration. It's like the band that goes, that sells out. Mainstream. Yeah, this is all imagine dragons.
Starting point is 00:37:58 One step does a night. commercial, then we can talk about it getting ruined. Right. Like he sold out. Let's be honest. It's not cool. A lot of people emailed in about the LeBron with the silencer. What is that?
Starting point is 00:38:10 What is that celebrate? It looks cool, but like what even is that when LeBron does the like. The like stomp push down thing? It's called silencer. What does that even mean? I don't know. He's like silencing the opponent by stuffing them down. It's not even close.
Starting point is 00:38:24 It's not even top five. The Jimmy Graham Gold Post dunks were cool. They literally outlawed it, which makes it cooler. I also learned Cam Newton did in fact popularize the dab that's actually pretty crazy I didn't realize
Starting point is 00:38:36 that Cam Newton kind of was responsible for that in the wider discourse Yeah I definitely wasn't dabbing before Cam Newton started doing it And now you do it all the time
Starting point is 00:38:45 Now I do it all the time Can't stop dabbing Westbrook rocking the baby I wanted T-boing which is not I don't think cool but it was that was the
Starting point is 00:38:56 that was a huge thing What was the T-bo one Because he would get in the end zone and then like do the fist to his forehead and then everyone did it? Yeah, I don't think that's like top. That doesn't strike me as particularly cool. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:39:10 But no, I just want to. I'm sorry. I just don't. The one I wanted to shout out the other one, Craig. Yeah. You were talking about how you're afraid that Steph Curry's going to do it too early and then lose a game.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Yeah. That would be embarrassing. Connor emailed in and a couple other people did too to remind us, this happened in golf this year. So, it was a president's cup And it was South Korea, I believe, versus the United States.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And so Siwu Kim had a chippin in the president's cup. And then he like sprinted up and down the green and he did the night night four times, like directly to the cameras. And like he did the night night. But it was on the 16th hole and then they lost. Wow. That was, uh,
Starting point is 00:39:49 16th hole is very premature. Yeah, I know. That was on the, um, you know how the, we got the no context for your fantasy football, Twitter account. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:59 He posted that, that picture of him, of that golfer doing that night night thing. I was not aware of that, though. That's funny. Yeah, the only other thing I want to shout out, this one's not famous or cool,
Starting point is 00:40:12 but like, well, I love it. Is it West Matthews? Who's the NBA player that does when he makes the three the bow and arrow? I love that.
Starting point is 00:40:19 It sounds familiar, but I don't know. Was it Evan Turner? I don't know. I love the book. There's, now I'm totally blanking on it. who does it. There's a football version of that too.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah, a bunch of guys did it. I think it started with maybe it was Jamal Murray. I'm sure this ghost screaming. Oh yeah, West Matthews. It was West Matthews. Guy says, okay. Thank you to the ghosts who were screaming. All right. Kai, get in here. You want to let's go, pick your waiver team. How'd last week go?
Starting point is 00:40:46 Terribly, but you know, this is just what we do now. I just lose every week. I went with Craig and we had Adric Estime who dropped Javanti Williams for him in our ringer league, so that hurts doubly. So never trust old Sean Payton.
Starting point is 00:41:04 You're so right. Trivia total, real quick recap there. Craig is in the lead now. Just took it back from D.K. with 13. D.K. You're right on his heels with 12 and high fits has eight. So he's hanging around. Hanging around.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Is that John Malkovich? Yeah. Is that from rounders? Hanging around. Let's play some fucking cards. Pay that to me this money. He beats me. I've seen a nice one.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Dude. A little freaks. Yeah, a lot of Orioles. Loses the whole movie because he's freaks with the Little Orioles. Yeah, a lot of Orioles. Little freaks. Good call. See how far you can get without, you know, product placement, the old-fashioned way.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Also, Kai just subtly under his breath saying, that's an alright movie. You can get fired for something like that at the ringer. Watch out. Yeah, that's my. I thought no one noticed, so we were just going to keep moving on. You watch your mouth when you're talking to me. You shut your mouth when you're talking to me. Last week, Highfitz had 9.5.
Starting point is 00:42:08 He came in third. Craig, we came in second with 14 and D.K. had 18.7. Let's go. That Will Disley touchdown, man. It hurt. It hurt. Yeah. Not as bad as the Dobbins touchdown hurt me last night, though. So moving on.
Starting point is 00:42:20 This week, I'm going to go back to the well. I'm going to go with Craig. That's right. High Fitz, you had Roshon Johnson, Alex Pierce, and Will Disley. I don't want Roshan Johnson, though. Okay, can I have him?
Starting point is 00:42:31 Can I add him to my team? Yeah, sure. Craig's team. Get a few extra points. Yeah, just take. I'll go two versus four. Craig has then Roshan Johnson,
Starting point is 00:42:40 Gus Edwards, Christian Watson, and Johnny Smith. And then D.K. has Trey Benson, Elijah Moore, and Hunter Henry. Those are the squads.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I'm not feeling great, honestly. I'm on like a massive cold streak with this. What is your record this year? Do you have that? I don't. But I think I've won,
Starting point is 00:42:56 like, It feels like twice. It feels like I've won like twice. It's really, it's been a rough, it's been a rough go. We're going to make you eat so much weird shit when you're in L.A. next.
Starting point is 00:43:06 We're going to make you eat salads. It's just going to be like one big feast. Because they've lost. We're going to have a chicken so well and get some nutrients into your body. Get you some vitamins. What are those? I don't know what those are.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Not for me. Someday you'll have to start eating. Did you see they announced there's going to be. Oh yeah. No, me and Al. We're like, we're like this. No nutrients.
Starting point is 00:43:26 No nutrients. No vegetables. Should we take Kai to Skisana and just be like, give them the Al Michaels. Cassified organs. Kai, I'm surprised you don't have like scurvy at this point. Me too, honestly. I'm surprised about a lot of things. But lost my train of thought so we can move on.
Starting point is 00:43:42 You were going to say, did you see that they announced or something? Oh, yeah. Thank you. Sorry. Yeah, they announced that there's going to be like two more pop darts at the Pop-Tart bowl now. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're going to have. What was it?
Starting point is 00:43:55 Not smores. It was like hot fudge Sunday, I think. And then the other one's like a mystery flavor that said... Wildberry hot fudge and a mystery flavor. And the MVP of the Pop-Tart Bowl will get to decide which mascot gets eaten from the toaster. Wildberry hot fudge? No, it's Wildberry comma, hot fudge. So the player gets to decide who is sacrificed.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Yeah. And if you don't know we're talking about the Pop-Tarts had a bowl last year where they put the mascot in a toaster and he was like, eat me! And it was kind of crazy. And then they ate the mascot. All right. Thank you, D.K., thank you, K. Thank you, Carlos, for producing the episode. Thank you ever for listening.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Emails or your fantasy football at gmail.com for fantasy courts and also anything. Thank you everyone for listening. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Heads will roll.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Roll. I feel like I've been hearing that song a lot lately. It's like recought fire for some reason. Yeah, it's always, it's so good. It's always around. How does that song go? Off with heads. It's in Project X, too.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Like a remix. till you're dead. Yeah. D.K. Or Hiveits, you probably know the, it's the A-track remix.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Heads will roll. Oh. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, oh,
Starting point is 00:45:07 yeah, yeah. A-track remix, yeah, A-track remixed a bunch of songs from the 2010s that, yeah, they're definitely like deep,
Starting point is 00:45:14 deep inside of my brain. I saw, yeah, yeah, is at the gorge one time. It was fun. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:45:18 That's cool. Yeah. The gorge is like this huge, it's a big venue in eastern Washington or central Washington, where it over literally looks over looks over looks this like huge river gorge it's awesome so it's like one of the coolest it's one of the coolest venues Kirkland red rocks yeah pretty much Kirkland brand red rocks
Starting point is 00:45:37 I think this I think this the view is cooler I've been to red rocks too the view is cooler at the gorge I don't know if the acoustics are better but I've actually heard red rocks is a little overrated I've never been but I had two friends who just went recently for the first time to see Maggie Rogers and they were like the photos look awesome but when you're actually there like down The downtown is just like right over there. Like you can just see a city. And I think they kind of paint the picture as though you're like in the middle of the wilderness. And you're actually just like right next to a metropolitan downtown.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Yeah, I saw Willie Nelson at Red Rocks. But I would say just in terms of like the coolness of venues, the gorge is hard to beat. Especially because like they play like right around sunset, you know. And it's like this massive vista is just like it looks like you're looking at like a mini version of the Grand Canyon. It's crazy. DK, this is super cool looking at this. Yeah. I've been to a bunch of concerts there.
Starting point is 00:46:29 This is like what they make the sphere look like. Yeah, totally. Wow, all right, this is pretty sick. I used to go to like the warp tour every year there. Been to a bunch of concerts there. It's really cool. You're a psychedelics guy back in the day? Never.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Never. No, not for me. Craig? I pass on grass. That's not a psychedelic. Grass is not a psychedelic. No, I was quoting Meet the Parents, which we just feel very awesome. No, I'm too afraid of my mind.
Starting point is 00:47:00 I've never done it. Yeah, that's kind of where I am, too. I like to feel like I'm in somewhat control. Yeah, for some reason, I'm like, yeah, 15 beers, that sounds good, but no mushrooms. It's honestly, like, same with me. Yeah. I'm sure that it, like, makes music better in everything, I'm guessing, but... I'm more afraid of the devil I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I keep thinking about Hyphins' there's two wolves inside of you and one of them is a dumbass Every kid in college Yeah One of them's an idiot Two wolves
Starting point is 00:47:33 One's an idiot Yeah Don't feed that one If we could play us out With heads will roll That will really like Bring up the energy of this part If anyone's on a run
Starting point is 00:47:42 Yeah Yeah sing it Yeah recreate it I wanted to play it I already recreated it Oh okay Bum bum bum bum bum Bum bum bum
Starting point is 00:47:50 Bum Project X had so many bangers. There's a little rewatchables category called the Kid Cuddy Pursuit of Happiness Award for Best Needle Drop. Yeah, that was a good, that was like, I felt very represented when you did that. Yeah, it's like the only like reference
Starting point is 00:48:04 to anything in the 21st Century in a rewatchables category. It's great. I kind of want to see that, I kind of want to go to this gorge now, this concert venue. This sounds a show. Let's do it. Yeah. We should go as a as a team. I would do that. Hell yeah. Yeah, we should go see. We should see if Tom, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:22 if a Tom Tom, Tom Club ever does a little concert there. Maybe Mariah Carey for the AAS. Red Rocks, it's funny. I saw this video. I don't know how to, what's that sad guy with the guitar who's six season? Noah Cahan. Noah Khan. Noah Khan.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Okay, well, what's the two A's for? But, sorry, I'm just too wounded from all the times I've been corrected. Isn't there an H in the middle also? Yeah. But anyway, Noah Khan, there's a funny video of him playing Red Rocks. And everyone's just, he's like an hour late going on the set. and then everyone's like, where is he? And then someone at the tippity top of Red Rock zooms in.
Starting point is 00:48:55 And I guess they have a driving range, like, for the artist, like right next door. And just like, not a driving range, like a one mat. And he's just like ripping drives into that Red Rocks Canyon. And he's like doing it for like 40 minutes watching like a Pittsburgh Pirates game finish. Yo, that's dope. Yeah, that is pretty sick. Also just in general, like, why does this theater have a fucking driving range for artists? That's so cool.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Why wouldn't it? You're on a mountain. You're to gorge. That's awesome. I feel like I've never heard anything like that. damn, I got to become an, we should do a live show there so I can rip drives. Dude, that would be, that would be the dream. If we could do a live show of Red Rocks, though, if anyone here that Red Rocks wants us to host
Starting point is 00:49:29 the first ever podcast at Red Rocks, then yeah. Is that right? I guess there probably has never been a podcast at Red Rocks. Yet. Still time. I was just looking up the lineups of what they got at the Gorge this summer, but not seeing anything that speaks to me yet. What would be your dream gorge concert, you can?
Starting point is 00:49:49 Oh, that's a good question. man I don't even know God I gotta think about that the top one what would be yours let me think about it for a second Porter Robinson
Starting point is 00:50:00 I Porter Robinson live is my favorite Porter Robinson is my favorite artist to see live and he's great ADM artist but the live concerts are insane I've seen it at various levels of sobriety and I've cried
Starting point is 00:50:12 at every level of it crongbin would be pretty fun I would love to see Creedens Clearwater Revival oh wow oh wow that'd be sick Yeah Good question though
Starting point is 00:50:25 I feel like I didn't I got to think about it longer Yeah I feel like I hit you like a meteor Well it's just hard to choose It would be the one band you would choose to see in a concert That's like you're not on trial here It's a big-ass question It's all right
Starting point is 00:50:36 Yeah People are going to hold it to hold me to it You know Bon Jovi Bon Jovi That's stunning They got so many bangers I'm stunned by that
Starting point is 00:50:48 I will say it's funny that we did the one second song playlist I actually we should talk about this at some point I've been trying to figure what the most recognizable one is like what's the most recognized one second song I think Bon Jovi has the most Oh interesting Which artist has the most
Starting point is 00:51:04 Disproportionate to how fit Because obviously Bon Jovi's very famous He's not necessarily as famous as like Abba or someone But like there are so many Bon Jovi songs that you can get in one second I think disproportionately now famous he is too Yeah he has a lot of like broad down the middle hits Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Like literally just like shot through the heart And then you just finish it. And they're like, oh yeah, that's That's why I think I chose that Because it's like number one, A little bit of nostalgia for me personally. You know, number two, they're just a different,
Starting point is 00:51:33 they're just from a different time. And I feel like their show would be really fun. I've never been to a Bon Jovi show. I feel like it would be, although it'd probably be just like a much older crowd. Yeah, no offense. You guys know my bunch. Dude, Ludacris played the Northwest Washington Fair,
Starting point is 00:51:47 which is right by me. It's like in Linden, is like 20 miles north of Bellingham. And I think it was just like a high school reunion for people of my age. It was like all 40-ish-year-old people that went to this. And it was like the biggest thing that's happened in this town in like 10 years. Anyway, so that's kind of probably would punch over it, except for a little older.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Not that there's anything wrong with that, right? You guys would still go. Sure. Yeah. I'd go. What were the 80s like? my mom's boss at work
Starting point is 00:52:19 his Bon Jovi married his daughter Oh yeah you were told me about that And he couldn't get his name right And he was like such a nice kid Don Bovi Bon John Don Bonhovi I had a weird name Nice kid though
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