The Ringer NFL Show - Waiver Wire Pickups for Week 15, 49ers RBs, and The Alien Rumor Mill

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

The guys react to the news that Panthers RB Jonathon Brooks tore his ACL again (1:45). Next, SHOWDOWN TIME! Must-add players at each position ahead of Week 15 (8:33). RB: Patrick Taylor (49ers), Sincere McCormick (Raiders), and Sean Tucker (Buccaneers) (8:33) WR: Adam Thielen (Panthers), Romeo Doubs (Packers), and Elijah Moore (Browns) (21:50) TE: Hunter Henry (Patriots), Noah Gray (Chiefs), and Juwan Johnson (Saints) (32:31) QB: Drake Maye (Patriots), Bo Nix (Broncos), and Jameis Winston (Browns) (41:00) D/ST: Buffalo Bills, Los Angeles Rams, Denver Broncos, and Baltimore Ravens (54:00) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producers: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Look, it's not that confusing. I'm Rob Harvilla, host of the podcast 60 Songs That Explain the 90s, except we did 120 songs. And now we're back with the 2000s. I refuse to say aughts. 2000 to 2009. The Strokes, Rihanna, J-Lo, Kanye, sure. And now the show is called 60 Songs That Explain the 90s, colon the 2000s. Wow.

That's too long a title for me to say anything else right now. Just trust me. That's 60 songs that explain the 90s, in the 2000s, preferably on Spotify. Football show, my name is Danny Hyfitts, and I'm joined by Danny, Kelly, Craig Quirlebeck, and we are going through all our must-add players after week 14, a, a.k. entering week 15, the fantasy football playoffs. Here's how it's going to work.

We're going to go position by position. We're going to pick our best player at that position. If we pick the same guy, we'll do a trivia tiebreaker, and then someone will get that guy, and someone will pick a different guy. It's not that complicated. You'll figure it out, I promise. Emails at Ringinfantasy Football.g.g.com if you want trivia questions to send us, send us your fantasy courts for Power Hour.

We're going to be hitting DK's mock draft getting into the NFL draft show coming up. Power Hour. We're going to be doing draft show on Wednesdays for the entire off season. Listen to us in the off season, playoffs, the whole thing. We don't go anywhere. We never stop. We never stop.

Sometimes we should. We never do. So we're going to keep rolling. To be totally honest, a lot of these players suck. And if you made the playoffs, then you probably don't need these players, but we are going to go through because there are injuries and we're going through a certain situation, starting with, unfortunately Panthers running back Jonathan Brooks

the rookie who tore his ACL at Texas last year and the Panthers traded up for in the second round of the draft towards ACL again on Sunday brutal same ACL same knee yes the same ACL DK you compared Jonathan Brooks to small Andre Stevenson we were excited for Jonathan Brooks yeah I guess that now is not the right time for Arrogatory now yeah what you're talking about

remandre's good he is I don't know if I want my first overall, or my first round draft pick to be compared to Ramandre. It's like if Romandre was smaller and you're like, oh, and maybe it's too somber of a comparison for the Well, Romantre, he's like, he's about the same size as Jonathan Brooks,

but for whatever reason, he just seems bigger. D.K., Jonathan Brooks was considered the best running back in this draft. This is the guy, of course, that Jerry Jones waxed poetic about how he's the best interview in the combine in 30 years. And then his son had to elble him, be like, we haven't picked him yet, Dad. And then the Panthers

traded up. Fleet Frog. D.K. Yeah. What is the history of players who tour their ACL twice in one year before playing in the NFL for like 25 steps? It's like it for Jonathan Brooks?

Probably not a lot of guys that did that and then came back and were like superstars, but he's still young. Could come back. Obviously, the younger you are, the quicker you heal, the better you tend to heal. I mean,

it was funny now, not funny. Sorry, that's the actually the worst word. But no, no, it's fine. Just,

you know, yeah. Do you think now, so it's like, obviously the question is going to be, did they bring him back too early? And now he tore his ACL, what, December 8th? So is he going to come back next year? It'll probably be right around November except for next year when they think he'll be physically able to practice and do everything.

And then they're going to almost be confronted with the exact same scenario again. That is a good. That's actually a really good point, Craig, because the, wow, you're right, because he tore as ACL in October of last year. And they didn't really play until Thanksgiving. Right. And then. So now what? So now you're right

Fuck, you're right Well, there was a lot of speculation Because it took him so long to come back And because he's been so slow coming back But there was some type of Setback or whatever In his progress during this season at some point We just didn't hear about it.

Now it feels like he's not going to play a snap until Yeah, it feels like it would probably be The prudent thing to do is just to wait until year three But at that point, it's like his rookie contract's almost over I mean, I think it I think Yeah, I mean, I think the thing we always talk about Honestly, so many email this is,

and it was like, this is the best analysis you guys have ever given on the show and you guys forgot about it this year, is that you don't ever want injured players

the year after the injury. You want him the year after the injury, like Sequan, like a lot of guys were basically T.J. Hawkins, it's a good example. Where next year,

T.C. Hawkins is going to be, you get hurt in December, and then you come back in August, and we see a player on the field. We're like, oh, he's back. He's healthy. Not really.

Your mind does not trust your knee yet. Chris Godwin. I know Chris Godwin. But it was a different injury he suffered this year, after the year after because you just do not gain, again, the difference between getting to the 95th percentile of explosives, this or 90th or whatever fake number you want to make up,

to get back to the NFL is not the same as getting to the 100th percentth of what you're capable of to be, like, great on an NFL field. Like, it takes a year to return, but then it takes like another six months to get back to who you are. Tony Pollard, an example of that, where it looks so much better in Tennessee than he did in Dallas last year. So like Tank Dell this was not, this was not the year to draft tank Dell. And next year will not be the year to draft like somebody like Rishi Rice, perhaps.

Exactly. Like you want, like next year you want Tank Dell and you want T.J. Hawkinson. And you do not want Rishi Rice or Chris Godwin. Like, yeah. And so with Jonathan Brooks. So are we having to wait until 2027 to take Jonathan, or Jonathan. 26. Yeah. That's what we're saying. Because there's next year's 2025. Not the 25 season. Because that's the year after. Because the 26 season is the first year back. So it's the 27 season that you want them. So it's like a one-soto contract situation. It's like 2040 will be cash in. This is so brutal. Yeah, it sucks. Imagine being. Dude, imagine being him.

That sucks. I know. Coming back from injury, it's got to be like such a, like a grueling mental battle, getting to the place where you feel comfortable, getting to the place where you're confident. And then like they pulled the rug out. You know, he's got the rug pulled out from him again. I know I've heard many like reports of guys going through these injury rehabs where they just get like really depressed.

Yeah. It's like actually really, really hard. Not just physically, but mentally. So yeah. Seekuins talked about that. The other thing that you don't think about. I mean, I mean, obviously, especially in the pandemic, I think a lot of people, like, I definitely felt this more. Like, if you're not doing physical activity, obviously, like, it's bad for your mental health.

But if you take that to the professional athlete level where there's more stress on them. And but professional athletes are the most creatures of habit you've ever seen. Like, you know what I mean? Like every moment of their day is planned. They don't want any disruptions to their day. So you take a player and there's a mental isolation too because you're not in your habit. Sorry, you're not in your habits. you're not around your teammates because you're rehabbing.

So you're kind of alone. And you're not getting the physical activity used to. It's really brutal for these guys in recovery. So yeah, I feel really bad for Jonathan Brooks. Honestly, it sucks. And it would be really cool to watch him. So we'll see whenever he comes back. But yeah, with that said, you know, Chewobber's the guy in Carolina.

So anyway, it's rather somber beginning. Yeah. And the Craig's canceled for calling him small mandre right off the bat. You know what I mean? I didn't call him that. Not really. That was me. I'm kidding.

But technically it was me because you're reading my scatter. No, you called him that, but when he was not hurt again, that was like in bad, good taste. I feel like I did it in poor taste. But either way, we'll go to the running back waivers. Hey, look, Clay Thompson, Tours Achilles, and his ACL back-to-back years, came back, won a title. Dude, yeah.

We have an email about that later, actually, a dad-tick about Clay Thompson and the Warriors. Oh, interesting. Should we just do now? Is this when we're in on Nick Chubb next year, year after the year after? Not really, he's getting older. This is like the third knee injuries had.

Hmm. That's, oh. I mean, I don't, Nick Chubb, my spoiler alert, we're going to do New Year's resolutions toward the end of the year, Memento tattoos, things we're going to remember. Spoiler alert. My main Memento tattoo is I'm going all Marie Kondo on fantasy next year. I want people who spark joy and I'm eliminating people who provide toxic. It's actually a good, toxicity of my life. I'm stealing it from my former roommate, Brian.

And it's like, I want people to make me happy on my team. I will not rank Kyle Pitts if I stick through to my guns because he's, He doesn't make me happy. He makes me very sad. Just throw him out. If he doesn't spark joy, throw him out. Yeah, fuck him. Nick Chub.

I will take Nick Chub before Kyle Pitts, which mathematically is not going to be sound. But Nick Chubb makes me happy. He's a great person to root for. And I hope he will be good. Maybe he'll be terrible. But yeah. I think mathematically it might be sound to take Nick Chub over Cal Pitz.

Yeah, you know why? Because Nick Chubb, he gains yards. He's good. Yeah. Which Kyle Pitz really does. Okay. Running back waivers. Weird week.

Weird week, weird week. Weird week. If you have been listening to the show over the season, first of all, thank you. Second of all, you've probably sick of hearing us talk about Stash Breland Allen and Stash Sharf Charbonnet and Stash, who's the other one? Tyler Eljir. And then they all ended up being relevant this week, which is funny.

So we'll go through these again, but need this to say, if those guys are available somehow still, like, go get those guys. I'm sure they're not. Weird week because Isaac Guerrondo, who we said was a must get, was exactly what we thought he would do, almost 130 yards from scrimmage, and then two touchdowns. And then he got hurt with a foot sprain, D.K., is your number one running back to add this week,

Patrick Taylor on the Niners, even though Isaac Warrondo says that he's like, okay with the footspray? I think so because players are notorious liars, especially in the moment when I think your adrenaline is still flowing and maybe don't feel, you don't feel the pain quite as much as like you do like the day after, the day after the day after, or whatever.

The only honest player ever is Michael Gallup, who was like, I'm not ready yet. Yeah, I think it's probably the smartest and maybe the highest upside play. to go for Patrick Taylor. Obviously, we saw what Garanda did today, or yesterday on Sunday when he had, you know, two touchdowns.

He's in a good offense, good rushing offense. The next couple of games, the 49ers play against the Rams at the Dolphins, and then the final game of the fantasy playoffs against the Lions, who have a really good run deep. But, yeah, I think at least in for, if you're looking for like a one-week filler, this could be the guy if you're looking for,

you know, for the entire. entire fantasy playoffs, Tank Bigsby might be a better choice or Sincera McCormick for the Raiders. Oh, if Tank Biggsby's available, I think he's better than all these guys. He's start, I mean, the ETN played in Tank Biggsby got 18 carries. Biggsby had 18 carries.

I think he's, I think he's rostered. If Tank Biggsby's not rostered, I think he's definitely number one. He's only 46% on Yahoo. Tank. I think, well, we all agreed Tank would be the guy if he was available, right? Yes, I agree. I have doubts. Yeah, I think

it takes tanks there. The, I agree to K about Patrick Taylor. Bigsby is 35% on ESPN. So that's the reason, wow, 35 and 46th. Yeah.

That might be an indictment. I think like, obviously if he's, if he's out there, he's the starter for the Jags, they have the Jets, Raiders, and Titans during the fantasy playoffs.

So, I mean, not ideal necessarily. The Raiders, that Raiders game looks pretty good. But I don't know. I almost rather just take a guy in a really good offense.

So that's why Patrick Taylor, I think is at least, in that discussion. I would do Biggsby over Taylor, especially because you don't know if Grenders going to play or not. I will say the two guys that I'm thinking of, and again, I think Bigsby's probably rostered in competitive leagues, but like if he's there, we can exclude him on this one, sure.

I think, what's up? I said, we can exclude him on this for the show. It's weird because I think the roster ship, I think is really good thing used in the beginning. And then December, it's kind of like, I think a lot of the ESPN public leagues, it's based on fade. I don't know what to do with it sometimes. But I think the interesting thing with Patrick Taylor and the Niners, they're playing

on Thursday night football versus the Rams. And then the other guy, I think, is worth considering. And actually my number one ad outside of Tank Bigsbee is sincere McCormick for the Raiders. Because they're on Monday night football. And realistically, if you're in the playoffs, I don't think you're adding anyone off waivers and playing them this week. There's no buys. I think what's happening is if you have injured people, you need a replacement. And so I think that sincere McCormick is perfect because if you have someone or even a receiver in your flex spot that you don't know what to do with.

And then you want to play them on Sunday. And then, oh, it turns out their game time decision like a Ladd McConkey this week. or George Pickens at crazy scratch. Sincere McCormick going on Monday at football actually is good enough tiebreaker to me because they're the last game of the whole week. There's two Monday into football games this week. There's Bears Vikings and Falcons Raiders.

So I like the idea of Sincere McCormick, who's just the starting running back for the Raiders now and runs harder as Austin Gale, who is a Raiders fan here at the ringer was telling us just like runs harder. He's a little bowling ball. I like him. Yeah.

He also was giving this interview where he was like, I just run every play like it's my last. And he was very sincere. and I think it's nominative determinism. No. Are you earnest? Yeah, I was going to say this.

Oh, fuck. That would have been so much fun here. Anyway, so I think it's sincere McCormick just because realistically for what you'll need, you'll just need someone on Monday night football who can play if someone is hurt and can't play for you. That's my take.

Because it's Ken Walker or Breece Hall. It's like all these people that like, you don't know if Ken Walker is going to play this week. You don't know if Breez Hall is going to play this week, but you like are grendo. And I think you just need a backup plan more than you need a starter. So that's where, that's right.

We all agreeing on sincere then as the number one option, assuming Tank is not out there for you? Ernest Magic McCormick. Sure. But if Garendo is not playing, it becomes Patrick Taylor immediately. Yes. And that's the flip side is the Thursday night football makes Garendo might not be playing.

Yeah. But then again, maybe Kyle Shannon doesn't care about people. I mean, yeah, that's fair. So should we do? So if Patrick Taylor's playing and Garendo's out,

Taylor over McCormick, right? Yes. I mean, we should do the trivia for Patrick Taylor, right? Okay, sure. Just infinitely better offense. The fifth running back on the Niners. Okay.

It's crazy. It's just practice squad season. He's the new number one, so that's all that matters. Should you actually just skip to the part where we take his backup? Should we just skip? Who is that? Well. Kishon Vaughn.

Kishon Vaughn. Yeah. Izzyabon a condo. They signed like eight days ago. Yeah. Kishon Vaughn. Things are bleak for the 49ers. Patrick Taylor's the last guy who actually knows the plays.

Like, I'm not going to lie. Like, they keep all day. Every time they have another guy, another guy. He's the last one. Everyone else has not been on this team for more than like a week. And they can't even really give Debo, James Hardin, Samuel carries anymore. No. Debo, James Hardin, and then who's the other one?

Marvin Harrison. It's actually just Tobias Harrison. Tobias Harrison, Jr. Okay. All right. So Patrick Taylor. All right. It is the Patrick Taylor, Week 15.

Playoff showdown time. Ooh, timed it. The gong is the best part of my whole week. It does center me. It feels good. We used to do quiet time in the show before we start recording. Oh, yeah. Like five seconds of...

Oh, I forgot about that. Back when Craig produced the show, we needed like five seconds of silence just to like, you know, it's the thing when you record. You need the sound of the room tone. Yeah. And it was actually... And we all started just like closing our eyes and meditating for five seconds. And it felt like a minute.

And it became like the only part of my week that was pure. Anyway, the gong. is that now. Yeah. All right. There's questions from Alex. Alex. Boys, I got to let you know,

we got good questions right now. It's a good range. Nice. Fans are cooking. Alex writes since beginning in the year 2000 and including seasons that have filmed but not yet aired.

How many total days has Jeff Probst filmed on location in the United States in or outside of the United States for Survivor? I don't know why we wrote in and out. How many times has he filmed on location

for survival? How many days? Days. Has Jeff Prost? The host and EP of Survivor, which we were talking about on Friday because we were talking about what is the best job? And we were like, damn, Jeff Probs not working nine months a year. And then working two or three months a year to stay in Rich Carlton and walk outside

for a few hours a day. It's pretty sick. What a legend, man. What a life. It's no fucking idea. I got close-ish. I gave my guess already. I got close-ish.

Ballpark will beat me. All right. I'm ready. Yeah, I guess. three, two, one. 2000. 10,000. I lost it, Craig.

I said 2,400. I thought it was just like two months for 20 years, for 40 seasons or whatever. I did 50 times 40. I was like roughly 50 seasons. I believe survivors around 40 days. Yeah. The answer is 1770. 1770 days.

Oh, that's it. So less than two months a year for on location for 20 seasons, for 20 years. And half of those now have been just in Fiji, probably at some beautiful hotel. In the beginning stages, when they were in like Australia and Africa and China. in China. Oh, my God. I'm not exactly sure where he was staying nowadays

and especially it's like he wasn't famous then. They didn't know if the show was going to work then. Now he's probably fucking white lotusing every single week. Yeah. Stuff.

Wow. All right. So Craig, you get Patrick Taylor. I'll take sincere McCormick again. He's starting running back for the Raiders. He's starting running back in the NFL

and like it's week 15. Beggers can't be choosers. And he's just starting running back in an NFL team. Best running back name in the NFL? Sparks Joy. Oh, that's great. Ranking names. Small Mondrae.

Stevenson, number two. This is his real name. Yeah, what? No, it's a joke. No, sincere, sincere McCormick's one. I mean, like, Sequin Barclay's a sick name.

I think Seacquan has to be two. Low-key Derek Henry is really low. Patrick Taylor? Patrick Taylor's low. Chuba, Chuba Hubbard's a good one. Everyone calls him Chuba, but it's Chuba.

Chuba's good. Kamani Vidal? Dude, Kamani Vidal, you could convince me as an F-1 range, or you can convince me as a porn star. Hank Bigsby's good.

That's another porn star. Yeah. Hank Bigsby, come on. Oh, did we just forget the secret? The secret? Oh, just the secret. That was really awesome.

Alvin Camara. Jamir Gibbs. That's a good one. Jamir Gibbs is a good name. DeAndre Swift is a really good name. Kimani Swift is sick. I still think Kamani Vidal

you could be on the cover of GQ. That could be an actor. He could be the lead in Wicked. Like, Kamani Vidal could be anything. Kvani Vidal is like interesting. Yeah. It sounds like the new celebrity thing. What is the new celebrity thing?

D. Tumani Vidal and pancake get caught, flipping a grunt. Zusha. Zusha and K. Smog. Ksmog. K Smog and Tamani.

Knot flipping a grunt. All right. I think it's Sequin Swift and sincere. I think that's the top three. DK., who else you're going to take? So Craig's taking Patrick Taylor for the Niners, and then I'm taking sincere McCormick. I'm going with Sean Taylor.

Sorry, Sean Tucker. the Buccaneers. Two straight games. Bucky Irving has been nicked up. He got injured in this last one with a back injury. So he re-agravated a back injury. Back injuries are hard to predict, I think. And especially considering he got hurt again when he came back into this game,

even though he probably shouldn't have played in this game. In other words, so I think they'll take their time with him. And so, you know, in this game, Rashad White got like the vast majority of the action. But I think if going forward, they probably will try and do a little bit more of a split. So Sean Tucker, as we saw earlier in the season, he's got some juice, man. Kind of the sincere McCormick of the bucks. Yeah. So I'm just going to see how that goes. I'm assuming that Bucky Irving is probably going to miss a little bit of time. So Sean Tucker, especially this week. And then if Irving misses more time, then that's just extra bonus for you.

If Bucky Irving misses time, this is a really good call. Yeah. The other guy had to throw out here, Kendrae Miller for the Saints. He had 10 rushes. He looked pretty good. I think this really I think the Rizzler likes him a lot and kind of like wants to make up for the whole Dennis Allen debacle. The Dennis Allen thing, we haven't talked about a ton, but Dennis Allen literally put a player

on injured reserve because he was mad at him. Put him on time out. Like, there could be like a union grievance over that. He's like, that's crazy. He just, he tweets his hamstring,

you put him on injured reserve. Also, there's a limited number of spots for that. It's like a reckless. I love the Dennis Allen thing. So funny. But I don't know, if they start to use him more,

especially if the season is kind of crumbling for the Saints, Derek Carr is out for the season. Maybe they don't lean quite so hard on Alvin Camara in meaningless games down the stretch. And I think Kendriah Miller could be the guy to take advantage of that. That's better than all the ones I had. And I wish I thought of that, D.K. I think that's an excellent point.

Yeah. And then Jerome Ford for the Browns. He's actually been playing. He out snapped and out touched Chubb last week. Isaiah Davis for the Jets. If they continue to put Bruce Hall on the show, for a little while here. Again, this is another situation where there's no real reason. There was a report that said they're not going to shut Resol down. You don't think they're going to give them 38 carries like they did in Week 18 last year?

Dude, they might. I wouldn't put it past them. To your point, for all that we love, we gave Breil and Allen as the back of the Jets. It's pretty humbling to see Isaiah Davis get like one fewer snap and one fewer touch than Braylon Allen. If Resol misses, Isaiah Davis is totally playable. The Jets have like the best running back group in the NFL, I think. No, and the schedule for the Jets.

I should say. The schedule for the Jets down the next few weeks is maybe the best one in all fantasy for running back. So like if you could get Isaiah Davis, if Rees-Hall misses time, you can play Isaiah Davis in like any size league and you might be totally fine. There's no reason to bring Rees Hall back quickly. You know what I mean? Like what's the point. Well, I don't know what they got going on over there. And then yeah, Camani Vidal played for the charges.

He had Snap Gus Edwards. He catches passes. I think it's really rare. He got a rookie running back in a backfield of veterans. And like he's the one doing the passing game stuff. Carmine Vidal could be sneaky. Valuable. Yeah, so there's actually a weird amount of solid candidates, I guess.

So I'm going with Sean Tucker. Cool. All right, wide receivers. I think there's, I don't know what. I had Romeo Dobbs to the Packers, and I actually had similar logic. Because frankly, I think a lot of these guys on waivers are the same. And my difference is no one actually wants to play Romeo Dobbs, whether it's the playoffs or like your team sucks and you don't want to be in the last place. But again, I look at it as the Packers are playing on some.

Sunday night football versus your Seahawks, D.K. And I look at Romeo Dobbs as an excellent backup break glass in case of emergency if one of your various injured players can't go on Sunday. So I think that that to me is a good enough tiebreaker role for all the other guys, but I'm curious what you were thinking, DK. Well, first off, let's establish the ground rules. Does Adam Thielen count on this exercise? Because he was 53% Yahoo, 38% ESPN.

I think he's kind of borderline. He would be my top choice if he's out there. I agree. I think he's at now back-to-back weeks of basically 100-year. yards and he had one touchdown the last two weeks. 10 targets than 11 targets. Yeah.

If we're kind of feeling, I would take feeling over Dobbs. I would take feeling as well. But 50% he was probably added last week in any real league. It's kind of borderline. The other two guys I actually like more than Dobbs. I just kind of feel like I don't want anything to do with the Packers

like passing game. Well, you know what's funny is like yeah, one of them have popped this year. I think that's like a secret story of the Packers is that none of these guys really took off. My beloved Christian Watson got hurt early in the year. It never really worked out. Jaden Reed has been super up.

down. Don Tavia and Wix has had every opportunity to step up. There has been tons of injuries and he, it's not happening. Wix is like a more polished Quentin Johnson. Can't catch. Yeah, he can't catch. And Dobbs is the most actually consistent player. I mean, every time they're all in the field, he's the one really who is kind of

seeing the most consistent level of targets. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I just like I think you said it's like whackamole. Like I just don't want to have anything to do. Like, Chaten Reed had zero in this last game. The Packers remind me of, I mean, they're kind of like trying to predict Tase him. where it's like, yeah, the whole point is Matt Lefleur wants to be unpredictable.

And so it's like, oh, when we'll taste a hill pop? I'm like, I don't know. That's the whole point. Did he say something like Matt Lafleur said something like, it makes me want to puke when you say the term number one receiver? Yeah, he said he wants. Yeah, he did. That is exactly that.

That makes me want to fucking puke when you say that. Oh, my God, that doesn't make me really want to invest in your guys in fantasy. That's fine. Fair. But fine. I'll go feeling with you guys. Thielen's available. Okay, cool.

All right. Shout's out Dealin' out Dealin. man. He's been doing this for... Still doing it. So long. Every time I'm like, oh, they sent him to the Panthers. We'll never hear from him again. Nope. It is the Adam Feeling.

Showdown time. I like this question. This one's from Emily. I like that laugh. I like this question. Bebes. The Beaver. I like that laugh. I like that laugh.

Oh my God. Full of course. We were just cracking up. this yesterday after the show. At like fucking midnight. We're just dying laughing at the Maria Menunos Justin Bieber clip from 2012 or something. This one's from Emily.

Emily. Emily. This weekend, Taylor Swift's era tour performed his final three shows in Vancouver. The Eros Tour opened on St. Patrick's Day, 2023 in Glendale, Arizona. Oh. How many total shows did Taylor Swift perform on the Eros Tour? Wow.

I think this is a great question. March 23 of 2023. I thought this was a really good question. So 18 months. 18 months what is that? Yeah. Have you been to the Arestor? No. I watched we watched it. Jack and I watched it on

when it came out of Disney Plus because it felt like it was too much money to go when I don't love Taylor Swift enough to pay like what it cost. But it was too much in the Zite guys to like not watch the concert. So we watched the video. I did go last year in August. This is fun? It was great.

That's a dumb question. It was amazing. It was like three and a half hours. There was great openers. She killed it. I mean, it's like, not only are you like,

oh, these are great songs. This is like the most popular music of the last 15 years of my life, but also just like as a physical feat, watching her do it. Yeah. Day in and day out is very impressive.

It is really, it is like really impressive. And it really distorts, this is a fucked up thing to say, but it kind of distorts your view of other concerts, which is probably really rude. But like, it's almost like,

because Springsteen goes for like four hours, right? but it's like just her, it's like, it's like four hours, right? Yeah, three and a half hours. And it's like, I had friends who went to like a Billy Elish concert, which were also very expensive now, Rodrigo, all the like the powder puff

like the, what was that cartoon when we're kids in Cartoon at work? Powder puff girls? My friends call them the powder puff girls like Chappelrone and Sabrina Carpenter. Feels repressive, but okay. Well, they're women. I don't know.

I didn't make up the term. That's what they call. I'm just kidding. I didn't make up the term. But anyway, it's like the expense to go see Olivia Rodrigo and they went to Billy Elish. It was like 90 minutes. and they were like, what?

And I'm like, that's a long time to play 90 minutes, but the Erez tour was, yeah, just three guys. I feel like the three, that meme of the 11-year-olds around a table being like, the ERIS tour was really good. I know. That Taylor Swift plays a long time. You can use that meme with a lot of the stuff. She literally added an entire album halfway through this tour

and then incorporated that into the show. That's crazy. Anyway. Take a vacation. This is a great question. How many did she do? All right. I got a number.

Wait, I'm giving, no. I have the email, including. something else that I know that's cheating but don't share it. She said the course of its run visited 21 countries, which did change my answer. I also don't know the answer to this. I have to Google it. So I'm going to guess with you guys. She did not include the answer.

21 countries. Yeah, that changed my answer a lot, actually. I like double. I like, I kind of want to double it now when I read that. Because she probably just jammed him in whenever she went to those countries. You guys are thinking about too much now. You're doing the math.

Okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Three, two. one. 180. 180, 130. What you said, DK? Said 250. Probably too high.

I basically did once every three days. How many eras tour concerts? You ever watch other people Google stuff and be like you're doing it wrong?

Holy shit. Wait, what did you guys say? 180, 250. Oh, fuck Craig's gonna be right. 149. No, I think you're right. I think you said 130. Oh.

Oh, yeah, I'm right. look at that the guy who had all day to think of the answer yeah well just kidding so that's not that many feel like she should have gotten to 150 I feel like she will

I feel like it's 150 I feel like this article is well she's doing more so I think you stop that 149 I don't think they're gonna stop at 149 DK she was so close to you she was in Vancouver you could have popped over this week I know I could have could have

but I yeah I had a thing carried on living my life yeah I just carried on living my life I didn't hear anything. Did she bring out anybody? Was there a big grand finale? I don't know. D.K., I realize now, TK.,

you're in the exact age rage to kind of miss all of Taylor Swift because you're too young to have a kid who listens to Taylor Swift, but I feel like you're too old to, like, have listened to her when she started going. You were like in college when I first.

Yeah. I remember, I still remember, like in your early 20s. Like I was, like, dating a girl in 2006 or something that like was kind of to Taylor Swift. But she was like flex.

this brand new thing coming up like 18 years old or something like that first album. Yeah. And that's like kind of like what I remember of it, but I never became like a fan or whatever. All right. Well, canceled. Okay. I get feeling Craig, who are you going to take? I'll take Dobbs. Yeah. I think again, I think it's

solid just having a decent solid receiver. I do think you can't go wrong with a Brown's wide receiver. That's why. I'm surprised you're taking Dobbs. I'm taking Elijah Moore and then slightly lower, I guess, Cedric told me, because he's still dealing with his concussion thing. I took him last week, but then it turned out that he didn't get back to practice. So to play it safe this time and hopefully Cedric Toman comes back very soon. But Elijah Moore, he only had four targets in this last game against the Steelers. I was a tough game. But like the five games before that,

14 targets, five targets, eight, nine, and 12 targets. I'm having a real, I'm having one of those love-hate relationships with Elijah Moore because I'm having one of those situations where in week 80 at 12 points, so I added him and started him in week nine, then he had four. Then he went on by. Then he back, he scored 15 points. I was like, awesome. He's back. I started in the next week. He had three. So I benched him the following week. He had 15. So I started him again last week and he had four. He is very hit or miss. But if you get on the right circuit and you're getting him at the right time, it seems to be every other week. He's putting up 15 fantasy points. And on that note, Craig never making the right decision. Remember, none of us took Nick Westper Kekine. So once again,

Nick Westper Kekine versus the Bengals, he'll actually be the guy to score touchdown again this week because we picked him. The one week we picked him is the week he did not score a touchdown. What is it? He had eight touchdowns and 20 catches and then we pick him and he didn't get one. So now we're off the Nick Williamsburg of Key and a train. Probably just go get him. Also, I want to shout out, Trey Tucker, Raiders.

Desmond Ritter is probably going to play quarterback for the Raiders because Aiden O'Connell. He had aircast? I don't think he's going to play. No, he's out. He's out. He's done so. By the way, I don't know what an aircast is. I don't know.

Oh, yeah. I've been meaning to tell you guys this forever. I know what that means either I don't know what that is just kind of I'm pretty sure fuck knock a wood knock a wood

I am not 100% sure on this but I believe it's where it's typically used if you have like an old old wooden ship diversity is that an old I believe that's an old old wooded shit no I think I'm pretty sure and people can correct me if I'm wrong

but I think it's like typically used for compound fractures in other words like when your bone comes out of your leg oh I do know it is like they wrap your leg in it And then I believe they like pump it up like it's like a thing. So it like compresses and like puts pressure. And you can correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't know exactly that is. That sounds right. I'm a doctor. So to stabilize perhaps the weird shape of your leg and also yeah, keep everything, you know, locked, locked and loaded.

Yeah. The thing is when you have an aircast, that's a really bad sign. That's all. Yeah. And that's, yeah, remember that year we took Tony Pollard in the top 12,

the year he was aircasted off that same leg. Anyway, I'll never forget that. Trey Tucker, all that says, Desmond Ritter will play for the Raiders. Nate Yonke, PFF, pointed this out. When Desmond Ritter came in in week 12, he threw like four of his first five passes to Trey Tucker. So if you're in a deep league and you're fucking desperate, I would play Trey Tucker. The Raiders, man.

Suck. Desmond Ritter, sincere McCormick and Trey Tucker heading into week 15. Brutal. Tight end. TK is your number one tight end for week 15. So this is another one where we have to decide if he counts. Hunter Henry for the Patriots, 40% on Yahoo. I think a lot of people dropped him because he was on a buy this last week.

Yeah. Anyone coming off a buy, I think we should talk about because totally fair that people cut them. Especially last week where everybody was like, last week was probably the most active waiver wire in the month. Wild West. You don't know who's available off of buy. But in the last five games prior to last, prior to the buy, 98948-tar-8 targets.

So he's a huge part of this passing game with Drake May at a quarterback. And he's, I think, easily the number one tight end to add here. Yeah. If we're counting, again, he's probably not available, but check. Low-key, like, go to your league transactions and see what people cut last week. Yeah, come, Hunter Henry. I agree. I agree.

All right. It is the Hunter Henry. Showdown time. That's my favorite question in a few weeks. Wow. No pressure. This is from, oh, no, I made sure to write down their name and I screwed it up. This is from Barclay.

Barclay. Barclay. Barclay Center. Bark. How many bridges cross the Amazon River? What a question. What a wild question. There's actually nothing I could.

I might as well just answer it because there's nothing I could think about. That will help me. Does this count like all the estuaries and little offshoots? Or is it like, are we talking like big ass, ass, wide, girthy river? I don't know what estuary means. I thought that was a hormone. That's estrogen. Got it.

You're saying if it's like a little five foot thing, does that count? Barclay did not mention what? whether there were bridges that crossed the estuaries at the Amazon. Estuary wasn't even the right word I was looking for it. Tributary. Tributaries.

Have you seen the map of the tributaries of the Mississippi River? It's crazy. Yeah. Looks like blood vessels. This is crazy. Life. An estuary is the mouth of a large river

where the tide meets the stream. I thought that was a delta. That's not what I meant then. What's that? It says it's similar to a delta. I don't know why they both exist. There won't be bridges above that, probably.

You're to Pittsburgh. All they want to talk about is the confluence. Oh, yeah. That's when two rivers meet. Or three, in the case of the river. Yeah, three rivers, right? Where the tide meets the stream.

Okay. How many bridges? Amazon. This is so ridiculous. This is so ridiculous. I feel like this could be like two or like 190 or I have no idea. Yeah. Three, two, one.

Two, two. 17. I went really high again. 250, you said. I actually, Craig, I want you to know, I had two before Craig even just said two right there. I said 17. You have two? I was like, this kid, like, the answer, like, he had a sender for a reason, right?

Right, right, right, right. Like, the guy's not just like that. But D.K. made the right guess too, because there's either a ton or very little. The answer is zero. Oh, you devil. Which I literally went through my process. I was like, it can't be zero. That doesn't.

I'm going to. That crossed my mind. Dammit. I'm just so afraid of getting ridiculed by going out on a limb on anything that I'm always just trying to guess the most normal answer that doesn't make me look like a day. Why are you afraid of being ridiculed? Because of you.

It's because of you. I'm going to ridicule you? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, we'll get over it. I don't know. Make fun of me when I'm wrong. All right.

I went like, for like a year. Orders of magnitude too high on all the questions. So, oh well. So is just so wide? You guess two bridges. There's no fucking bridges? That's just too wide to do. There's no way.

There's no way. Nine Nile spanning bridges in Cairo alone for the Nile. Nine Nile, say that 10 times less, nine Nile spanning bridges in Cairo. Scientists recently discovered an underground river beneath the Amazon, which makes the soil unstable for building bridges. So I got Walter Kaufman, the chair of structural engineering at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich said there is no sufficiently pressing. need for a bridge across the Amazon?

How the fuck is that possible? Also, while we're here, bridges are crazy. Bridges are insane. Like, you, DK, that Nate Bargotsa joke of like, I don't think I'd change history if I could go back in time. I don't think I'd make a difference. Bridges, every time, I am like a child still. Every time I cross the bridge, I'm like, don't get how they built this.

I don't understand how they put the, like, the pilings or whatever, the foundations down in a fucking river. That's why I'm seeing. Bridges to me are like airplanes, where it's like, when one. fails, it's like a big story and people are shocked. Yeah. Meanwhile, the fact that it works that well is crazy. The Amazon River Basin is so

sparsely populated that there are very few roads that could even be connected. Oh, that makes sense. What happened to just building a bridge because we can't, you know? But, well, it's been 100 years since we started doing shit because it was cool. All right. Wow. So zero. God damn it. It's the old-fashioned way.

Take the river by water to cross it. Get a boat. Yeah. Get a boat. Dude, oh my God. My favorite episode, Craig and I, one of our favorite shows is Planet Earth. We're obsessed with Planet Earth. And when Planet Earth 3 came out, it was like a moment.

And we, did we do an episode of Prestige TV? I don't remember if we did. But there was an episode, my favorite episode of the whole thing, they followed river dolphins in the Amazon. And when the Amazon floods, the river dolphins, like, swim.

They're like blind because it's so muddy water. But they swim through the forests. and the dolphins hunt in the forests. But the after the episode thing was of the crew, like, trying to, like, it was 25 minutes of just them being in the Amazon for two weeks trying to find these freaking dolphins.

And, like, that alone was, like, insane of just, like, being in the Amazon while it's flooding. And there's, like, a flash flood storm while they're on the water. And it's, like, a huge problem. And it was, yeah, anyway, Amazon's nuts.

The Amazon's scary. Is there a full behind the scenes of planet Earth? Because I think they could make a documentary about the making of Planet Earth. Have they done that? Every episode has, like, like a 20 minute how we made this episode. And it's just as good as the show.

It's unbelievable. I would recommend there, you know, Army ants? They're like the craziest animal in the world. Army, there's a colony of like a hundred times their weight or something, right? And they float. And so they cut, they're like the fish, a Nemo swim down. Like, they can do that whenever they want. Like, they just lock arms.

And so like a colony of like thousands, millions, I guess, of army ants. And they float. And so they'll attack like, they're like the Iron Islands of ants. And they'll attack like whatever land they find. So they're in this boat and they're getting chased by a colony of army ants or fire ants or whatever. And they're like, it's like running. But instead of fucking boat, it's ants are chasing them on the water. Nature's nuts.

Anyway, should we talk about the other players? I'm a nope on that. I'm a nope on going to the Amazon. Yeah, that's why there's no bridges. All right. Quarterbacks, you know what? I'm going to say it. I don't wait.

Wait, wait. We didn't pick our tight ends. Oh, shit. You get Hunter Henry. I get Hunter Henry. I will take Pat Fryer, doesn't count. I'm actually surprised how rostered Pat Friar moves is for how

inconsistent he's been all year. I guess I'll take so Derek Carr's going to be out now. He's on IR. Oh, wait, no. He's not on IR, Derek Carr. He might be back. There was just a report on that. He broke his hand. The Rizzler confirms Derek Carr

won't be placed on IR, not giving up hope of him playing sooner rather than later. What? I'll probably just dial it back up again with Noah Gray. tied end for the chiefs. Four catches and four straight games. I know it's not sexy, but he's actually scoring a decent amount of touchdowns. All right, I'll go with Joanne Johnson, I guess, even though it's Jake Hainer slash Spencer Rattler time.

I just feel like they don't have any other guys catching passes right now, and he's just going to get the checkdowns. Jake Hainer, the Fresno kid? Yeah, I think that sounds right. I remember him from the Senior Bowl. He's bad. quarterbacks. I'm going to tell you right now, I don't think anyone needs a quarterback.

There are no buys. All right. And the only quarterback injury of significance is Derek Carr. And I don't know. I like it's not really our job to tell people they don't need a quarterback, but that's fine.

But I just, I don't know. I'm like, I genuinely looking at like the streaming numbers and I'm kind of like, but the better quarterbacks are rostered. And there's no buys. And there hasn't been no buys truly

without injuries for like, I don't know, 10 weeks. I think you're right. and if someone cut, I actually think the real answer is check, if someone cut like Bo Nix because like there were teams were like,

I saw teams that had Jaden Daniels and Bo Nix and like just teams that needed a field of roster to week 14. So I would really just say, see if a good quarterback was cut. I don't want to be like, oh, you could scrape by with like Will Lovice this week.

It's like, Will Lovice got hurt. Screw that. Like, you know, if you need to be competitive and play like Drake May, I guess, like sure, Drake May is playing the Cardinals.

But I'm like, actually see if someone cut Bo Nix because he was on by. And also, I guess the only, I guess the only other thing I'd say is if you have Stroud, fuck him, just got him. Like, even if Stroud plays well down the stretch. CJ Stroud against Jacksonville couldn't get 15 fantasy points.

I don't know in what context you're going to put your season down to Stroud. CJ Stroud against anybody can't get 15 fantasy points. He's had 20 points once this year. Week 17, he plays Baltimore. Are you going to like wait to see if Stroud can throw on the Ravens defense? Like I just, I don't know. What matchup is he stuck with him, unfortunately? What matchup is he taking advantage of?

Lion's shootout? He got nine points. The Jaguar. 14 points was the Jaguars The Cowboys got 11 Like I don't know I don't know what you're supposed to do with him So I watch him have his best game

In the season But I would rather have play Drake made than C.J. Stroud So there's my take I had Drake Mae Caj May Caj Stroud CJ Stroud On that note Greg do it one more time

Did you know that Did you know that Caleb Williams Has more touchdown passes than CJ Stroud this year Is that right? Wow he should big dog him It's been a fucking weird year Stroud has 15 Caleb

I'm going to just look up something that will confirm exactly what you can confirm me what I said 16 one more Like I just make stuff up Craig Come on. While we're on Ctia Stroud Craig please do the just give us the Gus Johnson Wolverton

Stroud on the outside Seas Dell reaches out Elaterals touchdown Wait, Kai, do we still have the Gus Johnson interception loaded into this? Are you able to play it still? The hero.

Jack Sawyer. Warren. Look, yeah. And it's intercepted. And the cold line. Unbelievable. Jack Sawyer. Wow.

Jack Sawyer. The hero. The hero. The hero. Captain Jack. I love even before the interception. I love him going, look, egg. It's like a new wrinkle every time you listen to it.

It's like a great book. Yeah. It's the first rewatchable audio clip. Look, like, we can do 20 minutes on that clip probably. Somebody said the way he says, intercepted almost has like a musical element to it. And I was like listening to it over and over. Interceptive.

Put it on the wicked soundtrack. So we got an email from Zach about this, Craig's Gus Johnson impersonation. Wait, we got a what? Email from Zach about Craig's Gus Johnson impersonation. Zach. Zach. From the email.

All right. So Craig. Reading. Sending. Undue. So Zach wrote, Craig ruined my daughter's lullaby music for me with his impression of Gus Johnson's call of the Ohio State Michigan Interception.

My daughter's 19 months old and she's in a sleep regression. I don't know what that means, but it sounds like something that would give D.K. It means she's not sleeping. consistently or like when she should be. So Zach says she wakes up every night around 3 a.m. and wants to be held back to sleep. My wife wants me to lay her down in the crib after I soothe her and come back to bed.

So she does not get used to my arms. I usually put in a podcast and I accidentally fall asleep. A few nights ago, my daughter woke up and I soothed her back to sleep in a recliner. I couldn't go back to bed. So I put on her lolo by music from YouTube to relax and I fell asleep. However, I was disturbed in my dreams by Craig doing a Gus Johnson impersonation where he said, and I quote, your wife, it's going to be mad. Because you've been to sleep in this chair for 84 fucking minutes with his voice steadily rising like Gus Johnson.

And then the dream was so startling that I woke up and loudly yelled, what the fuck was that? Woke up my daughter, ruined her sleep. Your wife. Upset. Oh, God. Craig, you're living rent-free. Rent-free in people's heads right now.

It's rare that you wake up saying something from a dream. Like, that's when you really know you're in it. When you wake up going like, wow. That's pretty hardcore. The middle of the night, like, getting your kid back to sleep, you're like half-conscious. Yeah, half-conscious at that time. It's like very groggy, very like, you go right back into like the REM sleep suddenly.

It's like, I remember those nights. It's just like you feel like you're actually going insane a little bit. So this checks out. Sometimes people won't remember it. Sometimes I'll wake up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom and something will happen and I'll say something to Liz and then she'll respond. And the next morning I'll ask her about it and she'll have no memory of it. Oh yeah, for sure. And then I don't even have a kid.

And sometimes I'm in that sleep where like I'm in REM and I go right into REM and then I'm asleep for a minute. But it feels like five minutes. And then I wake up and I go back to REM and I have a different dream. I'm like I can remember all of them. can anybody if anyone listening can lucid dream please email me

like where you can control what your dream 1,000% emails you know my mom claims that she could do that when she was a kid and as she got older

she lost the ability but she said that when she went to sleep when she was like I don't know like 10 12 13 years old she said that she could basically tell herself I want to fly

in my dream and then she would go to sleep and fly I have memories of doing that too but I've lost it yeah that's like the closest thing we have to a superpower. I know. Yeah. It's so fun. Yeah, that's a great snipegrat. Email us or

your fantasy football at Gmail.com if you can lose a dream. Also email us if we have, we're in your dreams. I saw some video the other day, by the way, about like the CIA. You remember how like MK Ultra back in the 60s 70s or whatever? The CIA was doing all these crazy ass like experiments with. Psychedelics and everything. But there was also this one program they had where, and this could be completely bullshit. I don't know anything about it. But it's, it was interesting. They had this experiment where they were having people who could lucid dream were also like able to either see the future or like go and find things in their dreams that turned out true. So like the experiment was when they fall asleep, they're supposed to go find this envelope, open the envelope

and like remember the numbers that are in on the page in the envelope. And there was a real envelope tucked away somewhere in the real world. with those numbers on it. And like some people were able to accurately like go in their dreams and find this envelope and read it and then report it. It was like a double line. Like they couldn't, they never saw the numbers,

whatever. It was a real envelope in the real world. And they were able to like psychically go in their dream and like do this. That's one of those stories that you hear. That's the coolest thing I've ever heard in my life. Yeah. Yeah. I hear those stories that I'm like,

I wonder if I know how any of this stuff works. No, I don't think there's so much stuff in this world that is like, Like, not really explainable. Someone once was like, you never wonder if everyone can't be awake at the same time because, like, we're all in like a shared consciousness grid. I was like, that's dumb. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

I think about it every day. I was like, every day, I'm like, no, that's dumb. That's dumb. Right? That's dumb, right? There's only so much consciousness people can use at any given time. Yeah. That's dumb, right?

That's dumb. It's pretty dumb. But then I hear D.K.'s thing. I think of it. I'm like, fuck. No, I know that's, I know that's wrong. I think. There's, there's all kinds of crazy stuff right now about like, uh, aliens living

in the ocean and stuff because there's, there were these, um, I don't even know what the congressional hearings from people that had worked at like area 51 and stuff and all these people are talking about. Every a couple years there's one of these. And it's like we, as a public, I think it is, we've become numb

to anything weird because it's just the last like 12 years or whatever. However, long it's been of like just weirdness in our country and craziness and everything is like escalated to the point where anytime you hear it even now people are like oh there's aliens and it's like okay what's next like go to the next clip you know on wherever you're scrolling um but yeah these people like testified under oath to congress or to senator whoever and it was like they they were saying oh yeah we have alien biologics i think was the word they use like not like i don't know if it's like Dude, I'm always so skeptical of this stuff.

They said non-human biologics, which could mean of fucking testing rats on the sub. I don't know. I look at all this stuff as like the same argument that like the universe is so big, alien life probably exists, means there's a huge gap between aliens exist and aliens are here because it's so big. And like, I don't know, at the end of the day, like, I'm not trying to convince you. I'm not trying to convince you that aliens are here and real. I'm just saying this is what happened in like actual testimony. Yeah.

Senate Intelligence Committee or something. It didn't really capture the news, no. Yeah. And it was like it never does. There's also like all these videos and one of the most prominent one is like these Navy pilots have like found all have recorded all these videos. And some of them have been like released to the public. And there's like one famous one. It's like they call it the Tick-Tac and it was like this aircraft that looked like a tick-tack.

I believe those less. Well, whatever they found. It was like on video and these Navy pilots. were testifying that they had seen this crazy aircraft and the maneuvers that was doing were so beyond the physics of what humanity understands is possible from like a huge like a like a biological form.

In other words, like the G forces that these aircraft are doing is like it would kill anything, it living based on like what we know because the G forces are so strong. So like this theory is that they're like kind of shooting in and out of different dimensions and shit. Like once it gets all to that, I'm like, okay, I don't really want to know.

And I just like, I'm like, whatever. It's out in the ocean. Tell me if it is going to affect me today or whatever. Otherwise, that's what the documentary Pacific Rim was for, DK. That's why they made the documentary. Right, the documentary. Anyways, my point being, if anyone can explain the nine dimensions thing, that would be great. There's all this shit out there.

There's all this shit out there and people don't seem to care. I always, what I always come back to is that I feel like the government, like, like, the U2 spy plane, they didn't want the Soviets to know they had broken the sound barrier. So they were totally cool with people having alien theories because they didn't want everyone to know that they had a really cool plane. I keep thinking about, I don't know, a lot of wars going on, a lot of things being tested. I keep coming back to that. And I, because I think a lot of it prays them.

They feel UFO means unidentified, like, unidentified flying object. Right. Like, it doesn't mean alien. Now they don't use the term UFO anymore, right? Yeah, they use it like, yeah, I forget the whatever. But how long are we to do this? Is this too long or not enough? How long are we going to do the alien talk?

Yeah, should we keep going? You're just such a skeptic. Just, why don't you just believe? Come on over to this side. UAP now, is it UAP? Unidentified aerial phenomena. Yeah, see, that's the thing. It's like, low-key, like,

that means every, like, test of, like, a experimental drone would fit under that. Do you think, High Fitz, do you think when you're 50, you'll still be saying low-key? I might. I'm just wondering about how our jargon

is going to evolve and how it's going to sit when we're truly in adulthood, you know? I think you keep the jargon that you kind of like grew up on it. In 20 years,

will a professor be saying low key in a college class? Unironically. Maybe. The one that has had a lot of generational longstanding is cool.

I feel like cool is like 50 years old. Yeah, cool. It's not going out of style. Yeah. Low key. You guys made fun of me the other day when I said tight.

Tight. That's tight. Tight. Tight lives in the gray area of a cool thing to say and like an ironically funny thing to say but I kind of tight tight tight tight

but like when I was in college or high school tight was like ubiquitous anyway I think you should stash the bill's defense if you have a first round buy because they're probably going to get cut playing the lions this week but they play the Patriots

week 16 I would also if you have a buy I would stash maybe the Rams defense and then this week I would one check if the Broncos got cut the Broncos defense, they play the cults, Anthony Richardson. So if the Broncos D got cut, I would add the Broncos. Ravens play the Giants. Ravens are kind of around. Ravens D hasn't been that good.

I would do the Ravens playing the Giants. Or if you're really desperate, but like, you know what, Jags are playing the Jets. Jets can't do anything. But those two in particular, Broncos are Ravens that they're available. And then next week, if you want to play ahead, bills or the Rams for week 16. And, you know, just experimenting all the experimental weaponry on those defenses. All right. Should we do trivia and waiver teams, Kai?

Oh yeah, right, Kai, get it here. What's up guys? Who won, Kai? What's up, Kai? We talked about aliens for too long, so just tell us who won. On the contrary, I don't think we talked about aliens enough. Okay, another 30 might work. No, so who won?

It's a good question. Let me build some tension here, okay? Sure. D.K. came in third. Nice. Mainly because Cedric Tillman. I mean, this was an incredibly high-scoring waivers outing this week. D.K.

Sincere McCormick, Ced, Cedillman, and Joanne Johnson for 22. 9 points. Wow, not too bad.

22 usually gets first. Not bad. Big week. Craig, you came in second with Braylin Allen, Nick Westbrook Aquine and Pat Friarmeuth,

24.8. So, tough. And then should have done it. High fits with, I think, the highest scoring week.

Isaac Grendo, Michael Wilson, and Noah Gray for 43. 1.4. Look at you. Not the highest scoring week, sadly. You had a higher one?

Yeah, Joanne Jennings, week three. When he had 200, whatever yards, three times. Yeah, yeah. But wasn't that like a late ad though? Wasn't that like a, did we do that in the show? Didn't that news break late? We did. I think. Okay.

Okay. My bad. It was a topper. Congrats hi. It's Kai, who you want this week? I'm going to go with you. I think I'll go with the 49ers back again. Patrick Taylor, if he, if he ends up going.

I mean, that feels like an automatic dub if that happens. So I'll take the swing. Thank you. DK, thank you, Craig. Thank you, Carliscai. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, him for listening. Thank you for emailing us at Ringer Fantasy Football, Gmail.com about what did we want? I keep forgetting. Lucid dreams. Lucid dreams.

Dreams that involve us. Dads. Oh, Dads. We got some good emails in that. Keep emailing us about your dad takes. My dad thinks he discovered Joe Burrow because he watched him win in the championship game. So email us anything about dads and your crazy, crazy, crazy, parent takes.

Thank you, Lauren. Lauren. Thank you, Alien Ant Farm. Don't know what that is. They did a cover of, what's that song, Annie, are you okay? Annie. Oh, what's that song called?

I don't know. Just Annie. Smooth criminal. Yeah. Oh, yeah, right, right. They did a- Anyway, are you okay? Would you tell us if you're okay?

Alien Ant Farm did a really cool cover of that. I don't remember what else they did. They were kind of like, oh. Not a one-hit wonder, but close. Good for you for finding a band with an alien in the name. You're welcome. You still got it. Still can throw heat out there every once in a while.

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